Triforce! - Triforce! #205: Know when to HODL 'em, know what to funge 'em

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Triforce! Episode 205! Lewis has a crisis after meeting TommyInnit, Pyrion desperately needs help with Ultimate Admiral Dreadnaughts (a game no one has played) and Sips desperately tries to distract f...rom NFT chat to say goodbye to one of his favourite TV series: Gamorrah! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Hello, everyone. Welcome. Welcome. Why? I'm not naturally this silky smooth. I have to... He's taking up smoking. Just a couple of butts per day, but he's just easing himself into a life of full chain smoking. Smokerama.
Starting point is 00:01:41 All the info is out there, and he's just like, you know what? Who cares? Do your own research. Do your own research. I've done my own research. I'm going to smoke 40 a day. How else can you know?
Starting point is 00:01:53 The voice crack in the do your own research. It's so true, isn't it? Welcome back. We're back. So it's been a busy week as usual. Has it?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Loads of stuff's happened. Fill me in, brother. Yeah. All sorts of wild things. So we were visited by Tommy Init. Do you know Tommy Init? Flax, you might not know who that is because it's a teenage Minecraft sensation. Oh, no, I'd never heard of him.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I was going to say, was he the guy that did that song with Elton John that was number one? And Ed Sheeran? No. Oh. That was the Sausage Rolls guy. Right. Yes. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:32 We built the city on Sausage Rolls. That's the guy, yeah. There's a charity Christmas song guy. That guy is probably in his 30s, honestly. He seems to be older. So how old is Tommy in it? Well, he's 17. Good God. And he's a YouTube leviathan already.
Starting point is 00:02:44 He's a mega, mega star on YouTube. Yeah, he's 17 good god and he's a YouTube leviathan already he's a mega mega star on YouTube yeah he's huge he's enormous and um well I mean being 17 I guess meant he was 15
Starting point is 00:02:52 when COVID started wow which is very worrying you think he started it no he's pretty well he's he probably it's less dangerous
Starting point is 00:03:00 for him to get it right it's the perfect time to be 17 I think right yeah I know some um one of the longest jaunts It's less dangerous for him to get it, right? It's the perfect time to be 17, I think. Right. Yeah. I know one of the longest johns is two-year-old has COVID, which is apparently just not fun at all for anyone.
Starting point is 00:03:14 My youngest daughter has COVID as we speak. Oh, my gosh. Wow. She's off school. I don't think there's ever a good time to get COVID. I think the new variant is like ultra spreadable right like that's like uh that's like the key feature of it i can't believe it's not covid it spreads better than uh yeah it's just just i'm just looking at tommy in it's uh his youtube channel
Starting point is 00:03:38 11 and a half million subscribers you put a video out 10 days ago 10 million views i want everybody else to go and load up his his page right now, both of you please, and just go to videos. Right, hang on a second. I would say, number one, Tommy, it's working for you. Okay? Don't change anything. These thumbnails are driving me mad.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It's the same expression in every single one. And in most of them, he's wearing the same red and white t-shirt. Come on, Tommy, mate. Let's put some... There's a couple of more expressions in here, but Tommy in it, it's just one face. him he's wearing the same red and white t-shirt come on tommy mate let's let's put some there's a couple of more expressions in here but tommy in it it's just one face which one am i looking at any of them oh my gosh i loaded up his page and he just screamed like really loud we are skydiving laughing face tommy laughing face is like i mean that's clearly i don't know it could be an email
Starting point is 00:04:20 on switch but go back a little longer and there are there thumbnail. And he's obviously decided, you know what? Thumbnails is the way to go. And he's right. Thumbnails is important. But it just makes me laugh because he needs some new headshots. Because I'm looking, Minecraft's funniest YouTuber talent show. We ruined MrBeast's $10,000 Minecraft mod and Minecraft's funniest YouTube Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's the same exact picture. Come on! There's a secret, though, to hunger games it's the same exact picture come on there's there's a secret though to that what's the secret it's familiarity and comfort and it's all youtube stuff right you know what it is right you know yeah it's like similar you like the last one so you'll like this one but my concern is that people would think i've already seen that one uh well that no youtube remember it doesn't show you stuff you've already seen. It fucking shows me stuff I've already seen all the time. Well. Like, all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Not for me, though. Really? Is there an option? Probably. Because if I click on YouTube, I guarantee you half the videos it shows me are either channels I've recently viewed. I'd say there's a good 5% of the things it shows me. I literally just watch.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You're watching it on your app, though. You're watching it on the phone. No, No, I'm watching it on the PC. No one watches YouTube on the PC anymore, P-Flex. Yeah, it's much better. It's a big screen, mate. YouTube content isn't really for your PC anymore. Why not? It's weird. I don't know. It just isn't. It just isn't. It's not made for it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Anyway, we met Tommy in it, and he was actually super down-to- to earth and super nice. Oh, I'm sure he is. He's a lovely lad. I was really worried, though, because he's 17. I'm 38, right? Like, he obviously watched our content when we started doing stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He should not have been. I mean, he would have been five. Well, yeah. I mean, we started, like, 11 years ago, so I was 27. So I was 10 years older than he is now when we started yeah um and we didn't really get successful for for three or you know two or three years of doing it and so it was kind of this strange obviously obviously he's familiar with us but in an old school way right right like he's not he's not kept along following any of the new folks and changes he didn't really
Starting point is 00:06:23 even know duncan do you know what I mean? It was like he was just interested in the inside. Oh, man, poor Duncan. So he turned up and he's like, who's this guy? And Duncan just started crying. Did he say, cup of tea? I'll have a cup of tea, milk, two shits. So he obviously is doing like a vlog channel.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So he came and sort of wanted to do a sort of skit. And we were all like, oh, God, what do we do? Because this isn't really our thing, right? We're not really going to, like, jump around or chase people around the office and do, like, the kind of content that he does. So I watched a bunch of his stuff. And it's all good.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's all interesting. He's got energy. He's young. Yeah. I mean, the thing about Tommy in it is that these guys have very watchable videos. Do you know why Dream is so successful on YouTube? Who?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Dream. Dream? No. Oh, my God. So Dream is enormous. If you look at his channel. All right. Dream.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Dream. D-R-E-A-M. 28.1 million viewers. His profile picture is just like a goofy black and white smiley face. Yes, that's right. Each of his videos gets like 30 million, 50, 60, 100 million views. He hasn't uploaded a video in a month. But look at the thumbnails as well.
Starting point is 00:07:35 They look like shit. Some of them are even the same. Literally the same. But he's got the same thumbnail here for like eight videos. And they all got close to 100 million views. Good God. So yeah, thumbnails don't matter. same thumbnail here for like eight videos and they all got close to a hundred million views wow so yeah that's a lot of views but so the thing you watch some of this stuff and it's really fucking amazing he is so good at minecraft i watched him fall off a cliff craft a boat in his
Starting point is 00:07:57 inventory oh yeah place the boat down and survive you do you know you're you're you're in a safe place because my uh at the time nine year old son also watched that one and thought it was amazing and uh at the dinner table told my whole family about it and asked me why i couldn't be that good at mine here i've got a question hold on a sec i'm gonna bring in i'm gonna bring in an opinion from the target audience because this is a rare opportunity my daughter is actually in the house because she's off poorly i'll get her to stand at a distance and we'll find out if she watches these guys and what she thinks right hold on yeah good okay one sure though by all means
Starting point is 00:08:34 um we could ask her about all of these folks yeah you'll probably know right like i like my son watches like um like dan tdm and like uh squid and Stampy and all those guys. Because I don't think they swear or anything in their videos. All right, hold on. It's fine for him to watch. Stand there. Tell her she's not in trouble, people. You're not in trouble.
Starting point is 00:08:56 This is for the podcast. Have you heard of a YouTuber called Dream? Yes. Do you watch their stuff? No, I don't like him. Why don't you like him? Because he came out and said he cheated. dream yes do you watch their stuff no i don't like him why don't you like him because uh he came out and said he cheated and his fan base is just super toxic his fan base is super toxic and
Starting point is 00:09:11 he came out and said that he cheated okay what about george not found what about george not wait is this is this your oldest or youngest this is my youngest oh right right so she'd never heard of him have you heard of tommy in it yeah do you like tommnit? I've watched a few of his videos, but it was okay. I just thought he was kind of funny. You thought he was kind of funny. Who's your favourite YouTuber? I don't really have a favourite. Ask her if she's ever heard of Sipsco. Have you ever heard of
Starting point is 00:09:36 Sipsco? No. Have you ever heard of Simon and Lewis? Oh, come on. Have you heard of Blue Zephos? The Ox Cuffs. The Ox Cuffs. Have you heard of Blue Zephos? The Yogscast. The Yogscast. The Eurym Flax. You've heard of Eurym Flax? Oh, there you go, man.
Starting point is 00:09:49 You've heard of the Yogscast, right? Your big time flax. There's a lot of it everywhere. So give me three YouTubers that you do watch that you really like. Dr. Mike. Dr. Mike. Dr. Mike. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Who was the other one? Gloom. Gloom. Gloom. Okay. And another one? Dr. Mike. Dr. Mike. Dr. Mike.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Orthodontist. He talks about teeth. He talks about teeth. Okay, you go back downstairs now, sweetie. Thank you, my love. She watches orthodontal videos? Yagi sent you five pounds? Get well card.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Fantastic. My mum sent her a get well soon card with a fiver in it, bless her. Nice. Well, she can't spend that until she gets better, but fine. I think she owes me a fiver in it blesses nice amazing well she can't spend that till she gets better but i think she owes me a fiver as well an odd present there you go you can pay your dad back with that very strange i think yeah okay sure those i guess that's that is a snapshot into into dave but the fact that she's heard of tommy in a big deal. Yeah. We went out for Wagamamas. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Him and Tubbo came down. Right. Tubbo is this kind of quite quiet boy band looking really nice kid. He's a young guy as well, right? Tubbo? Yeah. He's the same age, I think. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He is an infant. Look at him. I think I played Among Us with maybe Tubbo. One of them anyway one one of the one of those young young minecraft kids i played i think among us a couple of times they're kind of boy band level of fame for kids in school uniform though yeah it's interesting so we went up to wagamama's and on park street um about i think it was six different groups of actually mostly girls stopped tommy in it and wanted a picture or selfie or something and say hi.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And they weren't interested in Tubbo as much, which was a bit weird. And they weren't interested in obviously any of us. They had no idea. They were like, is this your dad? Yeah, it was weird. That is weird, yeah. But that was, it was kind of, I was hoping someone would recognize me.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Because some people do. Just desperately hoping, hey. I was hoping someone would stop me and say, oh, I have a tiny penis. Just to really ruin my morning. But no, it was really nice. It was really cool seeing him. And he's obviously been going around talking to all of these mega YouTube celebrities. Like Mr. Beast.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah. And Mark. Mark Roba. be going around talking to all of these mega youtube celebrities like mr beast yeah and um mark mark rope man you know it's not even like uh my my wife was looking at like the top 10 youtubers because i think my son was asking about it or something because like because my son thinks that like uh i'm a much bigger youtuber than I am. Like he thinks like I'm huge. And he's like, do you know this person? I'm like, no. It's pretty funny because like I try to go along with it a little bit because I don't want to like crush him, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:36 But like, man, it's just like it's really funny anyway. So my wife looked up like the top 10 YouTubers. Man, like I don't even think PewDiePie is in the top 10 anymore like it's just you know I think so just been around like like a long time and some other people have just come in and taken a spot You know younger younger models or whatever? Markiplier is still up there though One thing I've noticed is that a lot of these guys like the tommy in it doesn't do a video every day no and i think that that's quite important because i think a lot of these people when they
Starting point is 00:13:12 get to a certain point where they're big they do a video every day and that means the quality really drops off because you just can't do something like they like if you look at it's working for market player man i used to put out multiple videos a day. The quality never dropped off once. Of course. Where are all my views? I don't get it. I'm doing everything right. He's getting 50 million views.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Tom Scott is the same, right? He's a big YouTuber. He does a video like a week, pretty much one a week. And I think nowadays people don't just want to watch Let's Plays over and over and over again. I think they kind of want something, either a group of people that they enjoy watching or they want to see something like uh like spiff spiff has always come up with some some game he's broken he goes away into the spiff labs and comes back he does like some research and production and stuff like that he's not just he's not just churning it out
Starting point is 00:13:58 like a factory like he actually you know puts puts time and thought and effort into his videos i think even that can be kind of difficult to deal with though, because I think you can put a huge amount of work and effort and craft the perfect video and it'll do really poorly. Absolutely, yeah. And you can do one that's a piece of crap and it will do amazing. That's always the big thing with YouTube, right? It's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And you're right, P-Flex, being creative, being very innovative and coming up with original ideas and executing them and getting them reliably is very hard. And, you know, they can't do that daily. I mean, but obviously that used to be the way that YouTube's algorithm rewarded you. You know, it rewarded you for more content. They obviously wanted YouTubers to create more content. And so they encouraged it.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And that's why we saw the rise of people like Stampy and dan tdm these people who posted a lot of content yeah and now it's more youtube favors viral kind of yeah but it's very it's super trend based though because like you know you're the the big stars of uh of this moment will be replaced soon too right like it like like like it always does like it there's it's a it's a revolving door yeah you're absolutely right and that's that's much more inclusive as well but also it allow and it allows you to have a better experience on youtube right basically you're going to watch the best videos from the best 10 people you'll watch 10 different things right in half an hour yeah rather than watching half an hour of one thing that you used to do you know
Starting point is 00:15:24 i think that's the idea behind what modern YouTube is. It's shorter, clippier content, partly because that's what they found works on TikTok. People want this overwhelming abundance, this flood of shit being forced down their eye holes. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I sort of felt... I'm not really having a crisis yeah you just felt old i get
Starting point is 00:15:46 about tommy in it but i feel like that all the time now when anytime i talk to anybody i'm like holy shit i'm old i felt old and unfunny i felt like i felt like out of touch i felt also i felt like this overwhelming sense and i think this is something that you just get when you're old not regret but disappointment that i wasn't better before or i didn't do things or i missed opportunities before jeremy like i feel like oh why did we stop doing minecraft or oh why did we do this or why didn't we do this and and it's kind of quite fucking depressing and i guess this is something which is you're always gonna have as you grow more experience i mean he's not done anything to have regrets about or or missed opportunities on right he's not let me be real let me be real for a sec here hold on i know let me be real he's a fucking child the lad has he's not even an adult yet he's not even out of school
Starting point is 00:16:41 yet he's not even out of school he's doing great but let's give it 10 years okay that's what i'm saying hold on there's the door that's his mom and dad come to tell me give it 10 years but everybody's the same though like he i hope he does brilliant no matter no matter how well you do or or anything you're always going to get to a point in your life and i i find like i like i can i can relate like you get to this point in your life where you're older, you're hopefully wiser, but you look back on things and you think, man, if I had the knowledge I have now, I would have done that differently or whatever. But you can't. You can't torture yourself with that kind of stuff because you are who you are at any
Starting point is 00:17:19 given moment or whatever. And you're just doing what you know how to do at the time, right? Like, and it all happens for a reason you you wind up where you're at furthermore yeah you you guys have to realize that when you started doing this it was completely unknown yeah it wasn't like a fixed it wasn't as sensational as it is today and and we did well like man we cannot complain like we we we've sure like things aren't like as uh as high octane as they used to be you know like uh bitches on the left and the right and like uh ferraris and stuff it's not like that so much anymore now it's more just pot bellies and too many kids and youtube
Starting point is 00:17:56 wasn't on every kid's phone kids didn't have smartphones in all their pockets and honestly ipads glued to their faces 24 hours a day when you think about it the the the sort of like um once once we sort of like uh started to like plateaued and just started to uh become sort of like seen as like uh like older youtubers at the time or whatever it was like it was stampy right stampy stampy got uh pretty big during that time. And even then, kids didn't have YouTube on their phones because a lot of his views came from the integration of YouTube into like Xboxes and PlayStations and stuff like that. Right, right. And it was these sort of family-friendly playlists that could just play over and over and over on these consoles that was working for those guys at the time. And now it's changed again and
Starting point is 00:18:46 it will change again and it'll change again and it'll change again but like you can't look back with any regrets really no i don't think you should ever have regrets we've done we we did the best that we we could at the time knowing what we knew at the time and we've done well like come on i mean jeez i sit around in my shorts all day playing a massively unpopular game, and I don't even blink an eye about it. I'm enjoying every minute of it. And it's all off the back of what we did 10 years ago, so it's great. You're right.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I think, given... I've just finished watching Devs, actually, Pflex. Oh, what a show. Given, like... It's the idea of that is it's kind of deterministic. We would have made the same decisions at the same time regardless right like and all of all of my decisions were rationally taken there was no time in my life when you were making them at the time you you weren't in your mind you weren't taking a big gamble you were you were making what seemed the rational decision and you were never
Starting point is 00:19:38 being like really in a crisis miserable and if i was i usually had people to help me through it you know it's not like it's not like and it's the same same thing now i'm not really having this thing it's more it's more i guess of an existential thing when you see that people like i don't know einstein wrote his brilliant thing when he was 25 yeah let's all compare ourselves to einstein that's a healthy mindset but the thing is like most you'll find that most famous authors and most famous people did their famous thing before, like when they were younger than we are now, right? And every time you hear about one, you're like, oh, I'm older than him when he wrote this famous thing
Starting point is 00:20:15 or this guy was dead by the time I'm, you know, and I'm still going kind of thing. I think it only, you get used to it, right? But I think it's just, I don't know, it was funny to be directly confronted
Starting point is 00:20:29 by young, successful YouTubers. Good looking, popular. Literally got 10 years ahead of them, easy. And they've already
Starting point is 00:20:37 made a chunk of change to start their life. But just to give you an idea of how old they are, where we went to Wagamama's, Tubbo just ordered two desserts,
Starting point is 00:20:48 sat down, ordered two desserts. And I either respect that as like an alpha Chad move, right? Yeah. It's like, I'm just going to, I don't give a fuck what you want me to eat. I'm just going to order, I can do what I want now. But it also screams to me, I just, i have never
Starting point is 00:21:06 seen that done before that is a child with money right there no that is a that is a young a young kid move though for sure right i really want to do it though i want to go in everyone's ordering their mains and i'm like yeah just bring me two you can do it what's stopping you there's nothing nothing nothing stopping you I don't know what's stopping me maturity is reality like I go to
Starting point is 00:21:29 like I went like I go to weddings and things and talk to elderly dying relatives and you know I just have a
Starting point is 00:21:38 normal life where I feel like I have to have to kind of just stick to a path and be an adult I wouldn't want to just have dessert.
Starting point is 00:21:46 That young lad will soon realize that if you only eat dessert, what is dessert? You know what I mean? It stops being the treat at the end of the meal. That's the whole point. The palate cleanser, the sweetness. I haven't thought of it as a treat at the end of the meal for a long time. Yeah, because who fucking eats dessert?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like, I don't eat dessert. Man, I haven't eaten dessert in a long time. Who fucking cares? I know, it's't eat dessert. Man, I haven't eaten dessert in a long time. Who fucking cares? I know, it's a flip that happens at a certain age. How do you feel about Marmite, by the way? I hate it. And crumpets, actually, as well. I love crumpets, hate Marmite.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I don't mind Marmite. It's all right. Like, I'll have a little bit from time to time. I tell you what, I really like Marmite-flavored rice cakes. Ugh. The smell makes me wretch. Oh, no, it's nice. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I keep trying Marmite again every year, like torturing and punishing myself, thinking, oh, maybe I'll like it now. Maybe it'll grow on me. Like everything else I've managed to hack, apart from anchovies, which I can't stand. I love anchovies. Love anchovies.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Look, these are these are just flavors that are very divisive why they're nature like they're like for instance marmite is a key example of this it's not a skill to enjoy marmite it's not some fucking character flaw to not like it it's just a fucking flavor that you either like or you don't why is it such a big deal who cares oh my god it's like a metaphor for so much more it's it's like yeah it is you know sometimes you're just you're just bored not like your mom you can't change it and that's fucking tough make up deal with it like i like big butts and i cannot lie that's just who i am right yeah when a honey walks in the room with an itty bitty waist and a great big butt i get sprung
Starting point is 00:23:26 yeah well i don't blame you man okay and does it make the comical uh boy well there you go nice nice well you can't exactly don't fight that don't spend years trying to condition yourself or beat yourself up about being a butt guy but i i could also a butt man unlike marmite which is a love or hate thing i also don't mind a more slender tush like that's fine too like a really athletic one like uh that's great too like a pilates or like a yoga instructor's tush great let's go sure you know what i mean i'm not i'm not picking one thing and objectifying it. And I'm not objectifying women. It was merely a comment on butts and their largeness
Starting point is 00:24:08 or the lack thereof. You wouldn't even know. You wouldn't even mind who it was attached to if you didn't know. Well, I would. If it was your butt, I would have words with myself. What if you saw a picture of my butt without the rest of my body?
Starting point is 00:24:21 You wouldn't know it was my butt. Of course I'd know it's your butt. I'd spot that butt anywhere. What if was uh pretty patel's uh butt uh or uh yeah or like um the cheese the the the cheese mp remember the the mp for the the cheese one i can't remember her name lin truss yeah they used to always make fun of her is it Truss, isn't it? Liz or Lin? Truss, anyway. Pork products, that one. Opening up new pork markets. Yeah, that's the one. She's now the Secretary of State, by the way. She's going to be the Prime
Starting point is 00:24:51 Minister, by the way. That's unbelievable. Well, she's enough of a clown. True, yeah. That seems to be like what you just need to be a massive clown to get ahead anyway. Her or Rishi. It's going to be between them, I reckon. Rishi. Let's not go down this route. It's Ricky Sunak, actually.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Thank you very much. Ricky. By the way, did you see that the Italian political senate did a Zoom meeting? Yes. And someone just showed their screen on it to everyone and it was some hentai. Just porn, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Of course it was. They said that hackers had gone in and streamed that. Put the porn on there. Rather than it was just one of the lads watching. It was apparently Tifa from Final Fantasy 7 who is well known for having voluptuous ass
Starting point is 00:25:39 and she was in 3D rendered in Unreal Engine, and an unknown male character was having sex with her. Do you think that when the guys made the Unreal Engine, they knew that this was how it was going to end up? Or did they even plan that this would be what it would be used for? Well, I think this is inevitable to me to see this happening, right?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, if you're going to make a public Zoom call, someone's going to join it and put Tentai on it. What? I mean, what do they expect? Yeah, exactly. I don't know. In this modern world, it's... I think one of the guys leaked the link, actually, by accident. Like, you know, he flipping showed the URL or something.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It's a common thing. We've all done it. So, by the way, in tech news, did you see that Microsoft bought Blizzard Activision? I saw. Yeah. It's not like done, done, done, though. Like, things will still be as they are now for, like, quite some time. It's scary. I think once things happen and are taken over,
Starting point is 00:26:48 Microsoft will be like, what, the third largest gaming company in the world behind Sony and Tencent, I think. Well, I mean, who else does, I mean, who else is left? Well, the acquisition is kind of nuts. It just shows the difference though, because Activision Blizzard, the acquisition was like, what, $60 billion?
Starting point is 00:27:06 And they acquired Bethesda, what, a year, maybe two years ago? I think it was near to $70 billion. It was $7 billion for Bethesda. I think it was $69 billion for Blizzard. Yeah, $420,000 for Bethesda. It's nice. Nice. $20,000 for Bethesda.
Starting point is 00:27:23 That's nice. Nice. That's nice. No, but it was like, it's such a huge gap. You think Bethesda, you know, with your Skyrims, your Fallouts, all these big IPs, big games, quite a successful company, like maybe, you know, not as well liked as they used to be sort of thing, much like Blizzard. But it's a huge gap, isn't it? But when you consider Call of Duty's got to be one of the
Starting point is 00:27:45 biggest gaming ips out there sure um warcraft in its in and of itself is quite big as well um so that you know there's a lot that it it is probably worth it and they'll make a shit ton of money off the acquisition i think wrapping up um you know things like fallout 76 and world of warcraft into you know the xbox game pass you know the game pass is great yeah it's really good value yeah i hate to do this i hate to do this explain it to me explain it so so xbox game pass is just a subscription service it's stupid i hate advertising it's like a pound a month right or something no it's not it's like 10.99 a pound it's like 12 is it i better cancel it yeah yeah but obviously they have a lot of games in there that you don't have to buy and it's kind of like renting them right yeah but then again it's like a netflix for gaming right that's what they want yeah but i thought it was cheap it was cheap
Starting point is 00:28:40 initially and now i've forgotten that i'm paying for it yeah this is how they fuck it's like it's like those magazines you used to get where you it was like a series of 10 and uh every week you would get a part of a castle right and the first issue is like 50p and you get like the the front door of the castle and you're like holy shit i'm gonna get this every week and then the second week the magazine costs like 25 pounds and you get like the left yeah crenellation yeah yeah after that it's it's ludicrous and i guess they make a hundred thousand of the first copy and then a thousand of the rest because there's no way nobody buys them yeah it's eight pound a month it's eight pound a month it's eight pound a month sure but it's it's it's actually it works out in a
Starting point is 00:29:21 way to be first of all sometimes the only platform where you can play a game. Like, I'm not sure you can play the new Halo on Steam or anywhere else. You can. I think it's only on Steam. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Well, I'm wrong about that. And the multiplayer of Halo, the new Halo, from what I'm told, is actually free to play as well.
Starting point is 00:29:38 You don't need to. So, yeah. Sorry. The Halo Infinite is free on Steam, but the campaign is £50. Yes. Okay. And you could just play that for free well i say free it's not free is it it's rented yeah for a subscription
Starting point is 00:29:50 service sure on xbox game but as a result i don't these days if i want to play something it's a 50 pound game i'd rather play it through on game pass then forget it then own it forever probably yeah well i mean i there's a lot of games that i own forever i don't go back and play again like if i if i played it i'm not going to go back and play subnautica again for example it depends on the game right like if it's something where it's like satisfactory and they put a big new update in you might come back and stuff like this but i mean obviously it's a way to it's a really clever way to get people off steam onto some other platform and it adds up right like you think oh i'm not going to pay 50 quid but after five months you've It's a really clever way to get people off Steam onto some other platform. And it adds up, right?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Like you think, oh, I'm not going to pay 50 quid. But after five months, you've paid that anyway. And if you're not really using it, which a lot of people don't, I'm sure it makes them deece money. Anyway, it's an interesting platform and an interesting setup. And there's definitely some good games in there. And I have, I reckon, saved money overall playing stuff on there. So big shout out to our sponsor for this week, Microsoft Game Pass. They just purchased this.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Sign up today, 50 pence, and next month it'll go up to 12 pounds a month. But first month is only 50p. So largest catalog of hentai games available. Who else is there that Microsoft can buy? Name big studios that are left. Well, a lot of big studios, I think most of them are now under big publishers, right? Except for notably probably Valve, who is probably the biggest self-publishing studio. Well, they were, and then they stopped making games.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah. publishing um well they were and then they stopped making games so yeah yeah that's yeah i mean we're literally leaning on them to to be a big game producer what about ubisoft are they still separate or did someone buy them you be i i believe they might still be separate yeah i'm not uh i'm not exactly 17 publishers quite a few things not massive but they do publish something yeah i mean i mean at that point though we're in the middle ground so i mean obviously you've got the big game devs like ea and and that but but then you've got this common like frontier and paradox you've got all these big publishers who who don't who usually have a small game studio themselves but mostly they're yeah working with other smaller smaller
Starting point is 00:32:02 little groups lots of small studios yeah and it yeah i think that is that's where the the bulk of good games seems to come from it comes from you know two to five people small studios you know making these big titles that that seem to do well yeah um i i think the majority of the games i seem to play come from those sort of places anyway uh just i thought it was some interesting news because it is it is it means there'll be changes for for i guess the bethesda and battle net they were always trying to launch their own launcher you know make their own captive audience on their own platform sure i know the that they'll definitely be wound up and added to i assume game pass i just assume that's where it's going yeah it'd be this this place where
Starting point is 00:32:44 you that brings together all of their games you know on there yeah it'll give them a lot of um you know like with all like the xbox exclusives plus owning i mean you know like microsoft now own some some of like the the more well-known ips out there right for games like uh pc and console it's kind of it's kind of nuts i i'm a fan fan of game plus just because it keeps fucking these console titles on pc like the fact is that so often you know i'm i'm i hate the the ps exclusive because i don't have a ps5 and i doubt i'm gonna buy one no i don't have a reason to buy i'm sure i'll have one eventually like i'm sure my son will probably want to get one at some point but i mean i got a ps4 for uh for red dead 2 right like that was it that was enough of a game that i was like
Starting point is 00:33:29 i am gonna buy honestly i think getting a ps4 for red dead 2 is completely worth it it's such a good game oh it was but my p my ps4 has sat where is it it's on a shelf around here somewhere for years like whenever i finished that that was i actually played through all played through all of GTA 5 on my PS4 as well. Oh yeah. Pretty good going actually. It's like two games that I've actually started and completed on a console, which is- I did play that Spider-Man game on the PS4
Starting point is 00:33:55 and that was actually really good. Which one? But I thought, I can't remember. You web slinging around, you fight people. Oh, the Spider-Man game. Sorry, I misread. It was good. Like, it was actually good.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah, it's meant to be really good. I don't know. Like, obviously being a console game, it's going to be quite arcadey. And I just think I've done that. And all right, I'll be able to do more of it as the game progresses. But there's not a storyline that I'm interested in. And it's just, it's not enough. It's not enough.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Like, especially because there's no multiplayer. It's not like some strategy game. Like, I've fucking been playing this game this week. Oi, if anyone out there plays this game, I need your help. Okay? It's called Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts. Oh, right. And it's exactly a Pyrene Flax game that I would play off stream.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's like super grognardy, like this game have you played it no no i've never heard i've never even heard of it so ultimate abril dreadnoughts you can design your own dreadnoughts and battleships and stuff like that right and it's all ocean-based combat and your ship and the enemy ship are blasting each other from like literally 10 miles don't you find that shit a bit tedious, designing your own thing? Oh, hugely tedious. But at the same time, I can't stop myself doing it. Man, like even in Stellaris and stuff,
Starting point is 00:35:10 I never design my own ships. Like I hate it. I just get the computer to do it. I just get to come up with it. Like, I mean, even in Hearts of Iron, the tank designs now, I don't really know what's good. I think that there's a level though, when you get very familiar
Starting point is 00:35:25 with a game and you very and you knowledgeable there is a time that comes when you want to design it yourself there is there is there is a time oh yeah i mean so against certain enemies in in solar you've built your own bases in games no but i don't really do base building i like base building yeah i love building a base but a base you can walk around i don't think it's that different thought process so i don't know let me tell you what the difference is is it's the kind of people who like when i stream and talk of pop up in chat and tell me the ammo i'm using is like three and a half percent less efficient that's it it is min maxi and and that's the level it's missing a lot of the really nice aesthetic stuff that makes base building so much fun exactly like you can make it's not just crunching you can make it look quaint and like you know it's
Starting point is 00:36:11 exciting if you can build a room that uh serves like a purpose or whatever like if there was like a ship designing game and it was a bit like uh you know like the ship in x-com or something you know with like all the different rooms and right and stuff like that i would be more up for it because then it's kind of a bit like base building but it just happens to be on a ship but yeah putting like um like a grid this this rail gun does uh 3.2 dps more than the plasma launcher i'm like man that shit just it's just lost on me i hate it it's so boring which is weird because we all used to play and i think you guys still do world of warcraft which is of course yeah but again the aesthetics and stuff of some of that stuff is great right like sure you're you're collecting a pair of shoulder pads that have one strength more than your old
Starting point is 00:37:02 pair but the new pair look fucking awesome you look like a shogun when you put them on or whatever so that's a big part of the appeal you know so here's my problem with ultima airborne dreadnoughts if anyone in the youtube comments i've been looking my torpedo boats won't fire their fucking torpedoes and i'm setting it too aggressive and i'm shift right clicking the enemy they ain't shooting this shit what is going on please help me i just want to know what could help you in chat either no i haven't streamed this oh god dude the fights it can be this fight yesterday and i just looked up i was like god it's quarter to seven like i've been doing this for 45
Starting point is 00:37:37 minutes and just zoned out watching my ships plink at their ships and it's like popping up report oh that will ricochet oh partial penetration that did five damage for like 45 minutes. These ships just chugging, we're following them, we're catching up. Maybe every 10 minutes we gain on them by half a mile, maybe. And this is at three times speed, I'm running this. Just chugging towards each other, trying to get in range to fire our torpedoes forever. That's the game. The enemy AI, there's no, seems to be no border on the maps. Like Ultimate Admiral Age of Sail, now you're talking, right? That's actually fun. But Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts, they will just chug away from you forever. How are you meant
Starting point is 00:38:16 to catch them? Even with your torpedo boots doing 21 knots, they're in heavy cruisers, they're doing like 18, 19 knots. So it's a very slow race you're gradually catching up to them get into a peter range and the lads don't follow the torpedoes what the fuck please help me right well i can uh confirm to you right now i have 12 wikis open on my second monitor please tell me all relating to this game and i can't find uh any info about what you're talking about i also looked at the steam reviews of this game and uh they're mostly negative yeah they are mostly negative it's really frustrating well i'm looking it's actually mostly positive for some reason no yeah it looks fine it's great i was just joking about that i
Starting point is 00:38:54 didn't even look it up the ultimate diss oh here's another thing the campaign the the only one i can play is in 1890 is there only one campaign are there other stop it pflax this is such a this is like such a generic complaint about something none of us can help you stop using the podcast for your own personal tech support about a game there's no other way to get help i wager there's not that many people out there playing this one like uh just i bet there's a surprising number of people playing this fucking game. Maybe next time TommyInnit comes down to Bristol, let's ask him if he knows the answer to this question.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Tommy, you've got a game you might like to play, mate. Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts. If you're getting tired of Minecraft, give this one a go. Your audience is going to love it. You don't like building Minecraft. You can build like that on a boat, though. Your audience is going to love it. You know like you build in Minecraft. You can build like that on a boat, though. The idea is you kill other boats.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Oh, man, that's funny. So, by the way, do you know much about the fucking metaverse, right? And also just everything being ridiculously priced, right? So expensive. just everything being ridiculously priced right like so expensive obviously houses are really expensive but also now virtual houses are also expensive i don't think you can even afford to buy one like like because because ever since facebook became meta which is their new thing and talked about this thing called the metaverse yeah loads of companies are spending like there's there's a thing called decentraland okay which is like a crypto 3d world platform which uses the mana cryptocurrency which is a side chain of ethereum god you can buy it's basically second life a sort of vre space a virtual space but one company spent two and a half million dollars buying up land uh in it
Starting point is 00:40:46 there's another company that spent five million dollars buying up land in a game called the sandbox which is atari's metaverse which is again blockchain based 3d open we talked about this a bit before with pets um but there's these sort of niche virtual worlds not many people are even like aware they exist okay but people like i mean there's sort of niche virtual worlds. Not many people are even aware they exist, okay? But people like, I mean, there's sort of celebrity appearances and stuff in Fortnite, you know, like Snoop Dogg and stuff. And some of these guys own property in some of these weird metaverses. He sold a mansion for like $4 million in a metaverse.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Really? Yeah. Oh, sorry. The house next to Snoop Dogg's mansion sold for $4 million in a metaverse really yeah oh sorry no the house the house next to snoop dogg's mansion sold for four million dollars so wait so this is not a real house this is no this it's like second life like it's like a like a virtual so here i think here's what's happened is we've reached a point in in the capitalist system where people have no fucking idea what money is for anymore and how value works. And we've lost track. And you have some people who have so much money that they could afford everything they physically need,
Starting point is 00:41:52 and they just don't know what the fuck money does anymore. Because the price of a company tanks, and all of a sudden their share price goes up. Company's doing great, share price goes down. Nobody knows, the markets don't know, people are just gambling all the time. It's purely speculation, it's just become speculation. All we're watching is the devolution of capitalism from a system founded on value and assets and profit and loss into gambling. Online gambling is in everything and all these fucking NFTs and
Starting point is 00:42:27 all these fucking cryptos, it's just gambling under another name. And I'm not kidding. I think it's fucking awful and it drives me up the wall. It's pure speculation. Everything now is speculation. People are buying virtual shit in case it's going to be worse. Oh yeah, this is the big, this is going to be the next big thing. Fucking jerk themselves off that they're in on it. I know, you don't know. You guys remember the Simpsons episode where Marge gets addicted to gambling? I call him Gambler!
Starting point is 00:42:59 He has enslaved your mother. Homer has to look after the kids. He thinks the boogeyman is going to invade their house. The boogeyman, the boogeyman is gonna invade their house hiding behind the mattress with all the kids oh fuck me man sorry this is you talking about gambling reminded me no no it is you're right the crypto by the way is i heard a thing this week about how basically there was this this kind of there was an auction for a copy of jodorowsky's june right the book yeah you know jodorowsky's june yes i'm aware of that was the film that he was gonna make that never got made that's right so johanna jodorowsky he wrote a bunch of did a bunch of comics and really cool books actually which I've read some of. I recommend. But yeah, there's a movie called Jodorowsky's Dune.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Dune. About the non-making of the movie. Right. Which is especially relevant if you're interested now that you've watched the sort of Dune movie and you know what it's about. Because I think it was hard to watch if you hadn't, if you weren't familiar with the universe
Starting point is 00:44:01 or hadn't watched either of the original movies. Anyway, there was a book for sale and there were not very... I think there aren't actually any books of this Jodorowsky's Jude. It's like a rare book. Right. The idea is it's a rare book. And anyway, a copy sold for like 40 grand about three years ago. But the crypto community bought a copy of this book for 3 million euros or whatever it was like a it was like it's
Starting point is 00:44:27 like a hustle right right um it's like a it's like a scam right and you can't tell like you don't know all of this stuff is mad so so they're basically by they like they're like buying this thing with spice tokens there's this group called Spice DAO, who I guess are a bunch of crypto people working together. They bought a copy of this original book for $3 million or euros or whatever with the idea that it's worth something. They then want to make the book public, but then produce an original animated series inspired make the book public, right? But then produce an original animated
Starting point is 00:45:06 series inspired by the book. And obviously they can't do that because buying a book doesn't give you rights to anything. Just because you own one of the original ten books doesn't mean you can start making a Dune TV show. Yeah, you just own a book. It's like people just discovered the idea
Starting point is 00:45:22 that if there's only one of something and people want it, it's probably worth money. Like this is not a new idea. There's a reason that original Van Gogh paintings sell for a lot of money. Like this is not some fantastical new idea that they've come up with. But at least that's a real thing with a sense of history and culture and importance. Not a picture of a fucking monkey. I know.
Starting point is 00:45:42 What is going on that is i mean sure they've now got a book that they could put somewhere in a safe i guess and have as value as if they wanted to sell it on in the future it gives them it weirdly gives their token some bizarre i guess but but is it attached to the token in any way i don't think so it's not like everyone who owns the spice token is somehow they're saying that, this token goes up in value as the price of that thing goes up in value, then that thing is the thing that's worth something. Like, this is like those stupid CDOs that they had.
Starting point is 00:46:13 If you've ever watched The Big Short or read about that backcrash, the book The Big Short by Michael Lewis is really good. The whole point is that if I have a bond or like a clump of bonds that has a value, it's going to pay out to me a certain amount and it has value. I bought a load of debt, essentially. Now, someone else is betting that this debt is going to be good and they are able to create
Starting point is 00:46:35 a security based on that bet. And then someone can bet on their bet and so on and so on and so on. That's all we're doing. It's madness. It's creating gambling on the value of a thing. And then that gamble has value. And you can bet on the value of that thing's value it's ludicrous does the same rules apply here about knowing when to hold them and knowing when to fold them and you've got to know when to hold them and fold them that's fundamental right you know got to know when to fungium and when not to funge you guys yeah you gotta know when to funge them
Starting point is 00:47:00 Not to funge them. You got to know when to funge them. Know when to huddle them. Know when to walk away and fucking cry. Yeah. It's mental. It's a weird world out there. I didn't do a good job of explaining what happened, but if you're interested, it's complicated.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It's stupid and needlessly complicated. That's the other thing about it. It's so complicated. It is like, it's just not accessible. It's like the financial industry is already so convoluted, deliberately on purpose to keep regulation and governments and people away from, just keep them away or able to control or able to even stop them being completely immoral
Starting point is 00:47:43 and making terrible gambling choices. It's, yeah, it's just a thing. It annoys me. It annoys me how complicated crypto is. Well, I'm sure there'll be people saying it's very simple and you're just not smart enough to understand and period, you're wrong. Just plug your USB drive in here.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I don't fucking care. And give me $1,000. There you go. Just fucking easy. Things should be simpler, not more complicated. I don't know why life is getting more complicated. People are getting crazier and crazier. Can we just all calm the fuck down and stop spending money on pictures of monkeys
Starting point is 00:48:17 and buying the rights to some fucking tiny sliver of a book and all this shit? Buying real estate in a 10-year-old fucking mobile game or buying a fucking digital Tamagotchi and paying someone to raise it for you. It's mental. Stop it. I would say if you think you're going to get rich that way, these are all massive pyramid schemes.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And like, if it sounds like a pyramid scheme, smells like a pyramid scheme, it probably is. And you guys are all propping up these people at the top who own this shit and are making a fortune off your stupidity stop it right listen moving on from this subject because um it's uh it's a confusing sorry i have been watching uh one of my favorite shows uh season five of uh the italian crime drama gomorrah which is which is really good yeah and the uh season five which is the current season is the final season so going into it you know that this is it this is the last season and i'm just on the last episode we're gonna watch the
Starting point is 00:49:16 last episode tonight probably and um i don't know if you got this with like the wire or any other shows but like it's kind of sad when a show is like ending and you know it's done you know and you can just see like you you can see it all sort of coming together for like the big ending as well right like um like like this show i don't think it'll it'll end quite like the sopranos did where it'll just like leave it open to interpretation or whatever because it's a pretty it's a pretty raw show like you know like a lot of people just get murdered yeah it's supposed to be a darker grown-up version of the super yeah it is very very dark uh but it's it's very good and a lot
Starting point is 00:49:55 of it is based on sort of uh the reality of like the the kimura and stuff in in italy and it's very it's very good very interesting lots of really nice character arcs like throughout the uh the five seasons and stuff but a lot of them are now coming coming to an end and subtitled you watch yeah i watch it in italian but subtitled that's interesting oh it's awesome does that give it like more kind of authenticity yeah i mean i did the same with like uh squid game and i i prefer to watch stuff like originally and then sometimes i watch dark subtitled as well i don't know i just wanted to i just wanted to check i hate the uh i hate i hate dubs how like out of sync they are with like the movements of the characters like lips and stuff like that it kind of annoys me so i just watch it what i'm more meant by that was like
Starting point is 00:50:42 is it do they do like a lot of because it's Italian, they speak with their hands a lot. Is there a lot of that in it and stuff? Yeah, but it's like, it's not, they're not an excitable culture of people in the show, though, you know, they're all very somber extortionists and drug dealers and stuff like that, right? How would they feel if they were watching their politics and it was interrupted by final fantasy hentai oh i don't know like i think there'd be probably a couple of um a couple of rude gestures maybe like um some guffawing as well like just the uh you know i don't think anybody handles being flabbergasted any differently than anyone else
Starting point is 00:51:23 sort of thing so yeah maybe some cheering as well probably but you are right um no it's a honestly it's it's one of one of the one of the best like uh sort of crime drama series i've ever seen it's great but um yeah it's kind of sad that it's uh it's ending but but also like uh the the satisfaction you get from watching it the whole way through is kind of nice too it's good good. I watched The Expendables 2. Oh, nice. Which was absolutely excrementally bad. Excrementally, I like that.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. And I cannot wait for 3. I laughed my head off all the way through. It was so fucking dumb. Nice. It's got cameos in it. So the main character is fucking Sylvester stallone who's a million and three years old then he's got he's got terry cruz jason statham who oddly enough is clearly the best
Starting point is 00:52:11 actor in the entire fucking film believe it or not van damme plays the bad guy arnold schwarzenegger is in it briefly bruce willis is in it briefly there's a uh jet lee is in it briefly it's got a couple of other actors i don't know who they are but they're just big lugs uh it's got dolph lundgren in it um and then chuck norris there's a scene where there's an a tank and like a hundred guys shooting at stallone and his his gang who were this tank is shooting them like hiding behind a car and you know he's all bullets picking off him and stallone turns to the girl and he goes like, I'm out of bullets. And he's like, what are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:52:48 And he said, well, I got one left. And he stands up and shoots a guy. And suddenly all the enemies get felled in like a split second. And the tank blows up. And he's like, what the hell was that? And Chuck Norris turns up looking very smooth skinned and sort of like he's got a cap on to conceal his boldness, I suspect. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And he's like, I'm a lone wolf. You know, I like to ride in the wolf pack of one. And that's why he won't join them. And it's like, it's laughable. It's absolutely laughable. But there's a scene where Stallone turns up in this village and there's these women there and they were firing these guns at him and missing. And they all stand up and they're like, oh places in front of their gun wow laughing at these peasant women who can't shoot straight like yeah sorry they're not fucking soldiers like you yahoos
Starting point is 00:53:34 and the the women say look we're hiding our kids in the cellar because van dam's evil army of satanists will come and steal our kids satanists and make them work in the mine digging up plutonium to sell on the black market and they're like oh that sucks and then satanists wow what a story i know and then sorry this story goes everywhere she says just just alone please help us you've got to help us take them down please and he says sorry we've got business with them already and leaves but then they don't leave they just stay but so he says to her i'm so like he he does his best acting where he looks sad at this story about how their kids have been taken and made to work in a mine and he just says oh sorry yeah we can't
Starting point is 00:54:13 help and in the next scene they're helping them there's no consistency the script makes no sense they kill everything like any gunfight they just stand in there there's this shot of stallone willis and arnold schwarzenegger all just standing upright in a just stand in there there's this shot of stallone willis and arnold schwarzenegger all just standing upright in a row blazing away there's so much blood and gore people's heads are flying off arms everywhere people just getting plastered all over the wall like people get turned into pizza it's unbelievable and they're just like there's a scene where he says arnie says to bruce willis i'll be back and he says you're always saying you'll be back i'll be back and he goes and as he's leaving
Starting point is 00:54:49 arnie says yippee-ki-yay motherfucker and i was like what is going on oh my god but i couldn't take my eyes off they're just clipping the uh catchphrases from all the other movies but that's what it is though it's so lazy dude It's supposed to be this sort of celebration of 80s action movies with the same guys. Is it just meant to be, appeal just to the nostalgia and nothing else? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I don't know. There's this weird sex thing, like vibe going on between Stallone, who I believe is 70. Let's look up how old Sylvester Stallone is. All right, he's 75. Jesus Christ. So he is in this movie,
Starting point is 00:55:30 and there's this much younger, a very attractive Asian woman in it. Man, if Stallone is 75, Clint Eastwood has to be 120 years old now. I think Eastwood is 91. Jesus Christ. I'm going to check that. You're right. He is 91. Fucking Christ. I'm going to check that. You're right.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He is 91. Fucking hell. So Stallone is in this, and this woman is probably late 20s, possibly early 30s, and she's like, can't take her eyes off Sylvester Stallone. I'm like, come on.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, but Sylvester Stallone probably wrote the script, right? No, of course he did. Well, no, it was written by a guy, and it says, and Sylvester Stallone. Yeah, of course it was. So Sy was written by a guy and it says and sylvester yeah of course it was so sylvester salone turned up and said make all the hot make make all the hot babes lust after me that's my contribution i'm the leader so they would like me it's just unbelievable yeah but yeah i honestly couldn't recommend it enough there's a bit where
Starting point is 00:56:24 chuck norris kicks a guy into an x-ray machine because they're fighting at an airport and then when he shoots him we cut to the x-ray monitor and you see his skeleton convulsing as the bullets slam into him i mean you know how could you not enjoy that on some level stallone's big plan to get into the mine is to fly their plane into the tunnel of the mine shaft the wings get ripped off the plane almost blows up they all almost die and he's just like how am i gonna get in they go you got a plan he says you got a plan that's not gonna get us killed and stallone's like probably it's just insane it's insane anyway it was it was a lot of fun because it's so bad wait so but it takes itself very seriously that's the the thing that i don't understand about
Starting point is 00:57:05 that the movie though like it like that it would possibly take itself seriously like there are definite moments where it does definite moments where like it's not just played for laughs like it's there's some tongue-in-cheek stuff in there for sure but a lot of it is stallone's reaction is not one of comedy like all the lines where they're like joshing each other and ribbing each other are dreadful and all the characters are very strange and like there's a scene where dolph lundgren improves on einstein's special theory of relativity and then eats the napkin he's written it on and they all laugh i was like what is going on like are we meant to believe he's a genius man i would love some statistics on just the amount of cocaine consumed in the production of this.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I would say the roids, dude. They're all jacked. Just the lack of awareness that someone could sit down and improve upon some scientific stuff like on In an Afternoon. By the way, I've just read that Novak Djokovic filmed a cameo for the movie, but apparently it didn't go into the final cut i guess it was in the dvd extras but novak djokovic worlds collide obviously um recently been banned for australia yeah what did you think of that by the way i mean it's their country if they want to ban him that's the way it goes if there's rules and you don't follow them get to fuck like it's that simple um i mean also for him to come out and say like i know that he he's a majority stakeholder in some company that's
Starting point is 00:58:29 working on drugs to treat covid uh but he also espouses this natural you know this natural immunity and all this kind of shit i mean like like people ask oh what do people do before vaccines lol they died they fucking died in very large numbers. That's what they did. That's why we have them, to save lives. You're a fucking moron if you think otherwise, and I have no time for it. I've been infuriated by this podcast this week.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I shouldn't have been, but the topics have made me very cross. It's good. You know, like, people are still not out and about. You get the blood levels up, you know? Everything's making us cross right now like it's we feel old the movies with people even older than us are still getting made crypto is a thing nfts are a thing the world's going to shit there's gonna be a war with russia by the time this podcast goes out it's a nightmare oh there was also a big uh volcanic eruption oh yeah
Starting point is 00:59:23 people that looked amazing from space it did it did look really neat yeah but it just There was also a big volcanic eruption this week. Oh, yeah. Under the ocean. The Portongan people? That looked amazing from space. It did. It did look really neat. Yeah. But it just shows like how terrifying nature is, right? Oh, man. It's the ultimate.
Starting point is 00:59:35 You see like the footage of some of those like coastal towns getting flooded? Holy crap. Oh, it's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. We're very lucky, really because only a only relatively small amount of people were actually hurt yeah yeah like it shows how quick the response time in at least in terms of like warning people was and stuff because only three people were were killed two people
Starting point is 00:59:56 drowned in peru man and three people died in tonga apparently um so yeah it went all the way across the fucking pacific well it would have yeah i mean like the um do you know what the uh the tremor was felt in east anglia it was picked up on like people's home monitors that they have for monitoring these kind of people have all kinds of weather stations and monitoring shit in their back garden i think my father that is such a british thing isn't it everyone knows a dad who's got that my my father-in-law literally has they're all they've all got a bunker they've all got like a you know fucking uh like a like a ham radio to pick up uh interstellar frequencies and stuff i mean his his pc when it's idle is crunching numbers for the seti program of course it is all these kind of things but the thing is the the monitor picks it up twice because the shockwave
Starting point is 01:00:42 travels around the world in both directions and obviously you're going to be closer to sort of one side than the other, unless you're exactly equidistant around the globe. So it hits your station once coming from one direction. And then the second sort of not the same shockwave, but the second hit is from it traveling the other way around the world. It's amazing. Makes the planet feel very small and perilous. Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 01:01:04 That's that this week yeah that's that i think i'm exhausted after that jesus i am i need to have a lie down yeah there was a there was a post on reddit pflax asking if you had any more books to recommend after they loved your recommendations for red rising which was well that was not just me that was sips well no you you started it i i was i i waxed lyrical about it after you recommended it to me, and I read them all very quickly because they were good. You got any standout sci-fi suggestions or anything? Not so.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I mean, John Scalzi's Collapsing Empire stuff is quite good. I've been enjoying that. And John Scalzi wrote Redcoats, which was quite a fun book about the life of the red shirts. I think it's red shirts, actually. Sorry. The red shirted Star Trek security personnel. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Nice. I knew you were going to say Star Trek. And so they basically hide on the ship. They live in hiding. And the newcomers that come in, they get them to go on the missions. And the long-term sort of members of the crew who are red shirts just hide in the background and try not to be spotted by the officers and stuff that's quite a funny book that sounds like a good it's quite meta but he also wrote like old man's war which is about this sort of um galactic
Starting point is 01:02:15 conflict that they're involved in where because they're running out of sort of people if you like uh they could they say to old people we'll give you a brand new young body your brain is going to go into it but you have to serve in our colonial marine forces for x number of years and then you'll be free um yes which is very starship troopers vibe yeah but it's very good but he's written this series called collapsing empire which is about uh this empire that is connected these huge hubs these orbital habitats and they're all joined up by this sort of ethereal sort of link, this like a hyperspace channel. And the issue is, and you find that this isn't a spoiler, this is what happens very early on, they find out that these channels are moving. So the planets are going to be cut off from one another,
Starting point is 01:02:58 and the empire that has stood for X thousand years or whatever, when these sort of pathways move, you can no longer travel they don't have fdl travel they have to use these special pathways and when they collapse or change direction you're fucked like how are we ever going to get there again you're never going to see this planet again which is not uncommon we've had this before um uh in there was a banks book uh god what the fuck was it is that the algebraist it have been. Where this planet was cut off from... Its stargate got blown up by terrorists and they could no longer get...
Starting point is 01:03:30 They'd waited hundreds of years for these slow ships to turn up with a new gate. So they're reconnected to the Empire. What's changed in the meantime? You know, they've lost touch with the society that they're a part of. I mean, imagine if a huge chunk of Britain just floated off into the ocean
Starting point is 01:03:44 and we had no way of communicating with them and then we brought them back in. What would they be like? What would it change? You know, would they suddenly feel like, well, actually we're a separate thing now. So it's quite interesting. But his books are really good.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And if you want something more literary, Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall trilogy is exceptional. The final part, The Mirror and the Light, came out a couple of years ago. So you can read the full trilogy now. It is exceptional. It is exceptional.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Every page will have a passage on that you will just have to stop and put the book down for a second and marvel at what a good writer she is. Wow. There you go. That is some top tips. I will check those out,
Starting point is 01:04:22 P-Facts, as well. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Everybody. And stay safe. God bless you. We love you.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And these United States and America as well. Don't let anything get to you. Don't let the bed bugs bite. You know, don't sweat it. No. We all have a crisis, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:39 you can't, you just have to roll with the punches. Let it out. Not in a way that hurts other people. Just yell a little bit. Get frustrated. Vent. Yeah. And then just realize that hurts other people, just yell a little bit, get frustrated, vent, and then just realise that life goes on and you're just a tiny part of a much bigger puzzle.
Starting point is 01:04:50 What are you going to do? Exactly. What are you going to do? Not what you're going to do about it, what are you going to do? Yeah. Just be good to people. Forget about it. Buy someone a present.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Give someone a ring. Be nice. And party on, dude. Enjoy this. Party on. You remember that? Be excellent to each other. Wow, the the triple trifles wisdom yeah from all sides party on dude and like big butts all right see ya

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