Triforce! - Triforce! #270: Lewis and Belle Delphine, the Unexpected Crossover

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Triforce! Episode 270! Sips is back after a big storm and a Disneyland holiday, meanwhile Lewis finds himself at Belle Delphine's birthday party! Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello everyone, welcome back to the Triforce Podcast. Oh, it's so good to have all three of us, the boys, back together. I just want to hug you both yeah don't judge me i bet come in come on in p flex oh yeah uh how are you feeling how you both feeling great man we had a huge storm here it was unbelievable i thought i i legitimately thought we were going to die at one point it It was unbelievable. What triggered that? I've just never heard weather as bad as what I heard during that storm. Describe it.

What did it sound like? It sounded like a million people knocking on my windows all at the same time with their fists, banging with their fists, because we had ha hail the size of clenched fists. I've seen some pictures of the hail, and until you've actually seen it, you can't really believe how big it was. No, they're big. And you can imagine that just, you know,

it smashed car windows, everything. Like, it was insane. The wind was like nothing I've ever heard before. There was a tornado over here at one point During all this And the rain, the heavy rain It flooded a lot of stuff Including my garage

Which was flooded but not as bad as last time Because after last time I changed some things around To make it a bit more, not flood proof, but, you know, make it easier to recover from any flooding. I think that's smart. And it worked out pretty good, actually. It took me about half a day to just clean up and tidy up and stuff.

And then I was back up and running. So I didn't have to go back to the office or anything like that, which is pretty nice. And, but yeah, it was, my kids all slept through it. I think one of them woke up at one point because it was quite noisy, but me and my wife were just up all night because it was terrifying. It was just unbelievable. Battling down the hatches.

Yeah. Did it feel like it exposed loose things and things like i don't know yeah for sure my my my um my greenhouse in my garden is smashed to bits like it is all over the backyard i still haven't cleaned it up it's everywhere there's just pieces of it all over the all over the place wow yeah and uh yeah i guess that's just what happens when you have like i guess places that have more regular severe weather yeah are more resistant to this yeah they won't have like a guess places that have more regular severe weather yeah are more resistant to this yeah they won't have like a lot of loose stuff so rarely yes it's fairly sheltered that the channel islands you think right yeah i mean it gets it does get a lot of weather there

a lot of weather passes through the the channel like you know we're used to like storm force six or seven winds and stuff like that and it's it's all manageable you know you get used to it after after the first couple of storm force seven storms you're just like whatever like this is just normal but uh this was a storm force 11 and uh it really hit different it was unbelievable yeah it was crazy yeah yeah the airport was was closed. All the boats were cancelled. But the lead up, so we were away for a week. We went to France. We took the kids to Disneyland Paris, which was fun. And we were meant to come back on Saturday, but all the boats were cancelled because there was like a ton of shitty weather ahead of the big storm. storm so all the boats were canceled and we were stranded in france for until we didn't get back until monday night so we we managed to get back onto the boat on monday it was packed we were so lucky and then when we got home this storm hit basically like the next day and uh all of the boats and the planes and everything we get all of our food over here by ferry and they were canceled

for about a week so all of the supermarkets the shelves were like totally empty there's no bread yeah it was fucking crazy man it's amazing how quickly like infrastructure falls apart you always hear about it it's like oh you know it's not at all gradual it's instant and they were like saying on the make of it well they're kids right so they they they you know nothing overly bad happened. I mean, there was a bit of flooding, but they didn't even really see it. So it just didn't register with them. They heard the winds, and the next day it was very windy and stuff, but they just sat around in their pajamas all day and played Nintendo. So they just didn't really care, you know? It's like a snow day.

Yeah, pretty much, yeah. Sounds great, honestly. I remember a couple of... We had a couple of bad storms. We had a big ice storm in Montreal and Ottawa when I was a kid. We were off school for like two weeks, I thought it was fantastic. But like, there were people without power for like months, like people died. Like it was a really bad storm.

But when you're a kid, you just... Yeah. As it should be. Yeah, I suppose, yeah. If it doesn't directly impact you, you don't know about it. And as long as it's only a couple of days, I guess, you know, your oldest is old enough to have... Seen some shit. ...be able to remember COVID and stuff, you know,

and that whole malarkey. I don't know how much of that even sunk in. I think they just they they they recognize some disruption but i i don't think it affected them you know what i mean like i don't think they look back on it as like a a tough time or anything like that it's weird when you're a kid again when you're a kid yeah it's just a different perspective right as an adult you you're very aware of how disruptive it is and everything. But I don't know.

How was Disney with your mixed-aged family? It was pretty good. I mean, it's not a break. You get back and you feel like, holy shit, I need a vacation now from that vacation, which you just can't have. But overall, it was really good. It was my daughter's birthday While we were there And we didn't mean for this to happen

It just so happens that her birthday Is always on that half term So it just happened that her birthday Was happening while we were over there And they were really sweet about it You know like all the They call them cast members Were always like saying happy birthday and everything

And a couple of stores that we went into, because they gave her a badge when we checked in. Like a birthday badge to wear like on her birthday. So on her actual birthday when we were going around and stuff, if we went into like a shop or whatever, occasionally like the person would be like, oh, hang on, I've got a telephone call and it's for you. And my daughter would be like, what the fuck? The first time it happened to me, we were like like what the fuck is happening who is this yeah didn't really twig like that it was her birthday or anything it's like the banker from yeah yeah yeah and then so she like so she grabs the phone and it's and it's like you know mickey mouse saying hey paul happy birthday yeah yeah yeah

all that but she loved it you know she just thought that that was amazing and this happened like two or three times and every time imagine if she picked up the photo she just like had this crestfallen expression yeah yeah well it's it's good too their attention to detail is uh is uh admirable because um she they this happened about three times and every time the message was different so she wasn't like and she would she would pick up on it immediately if it was the same message she would say oh yeah it was just the same message like you know she she would definitely notice things like that but uh yeah it was pretty good so uh so that was good and um they're not like big thrill ride uh kids you know they didn't really want to go on any roller coasters and stuff, but they love the scenic rides, which I think Disney does really well. So we ended up going on like Pirates of the Caribbean and the Haunted Mansion and all those slow sort of scenic rides

hundreds of times. It was unbelievable. I think I went on Pirates of the Caribbean and I ain't joking like 20 times. Good God yeah good god my daughter was just obsessed with it and uh they got back and they watched all the movies and they they got like eye patches and swords and everything so they the pirate role play has been like off the charts and yeah it's it was good it was a good trip they had a lot of fun and uh i think they have lots of memories that will you know they'll have for the rest of their lives sort of thing yeah uh but i i really just needed a dark room to to die in when we got back you've done your duty yeah you've served your country proud well done son man god

being a dad hey jesus yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That was so good. We're not doing a mailbag today, but I did have one requesting that we don't talk over each other. Oh. Oh. I just want to- Was that from the editor?

No, that was not from Tom Hazel. I don't think we have to worry this time, though. I mean, I've just been talking for 20 minutes all on my own. We were liking it. We were listening. Sorry. I'm sure we've mentioned this before you've got to understand that we're not in the same room no and when you're talking to people in person there's a lot more non-verbal cues you pick up on

about when you can talk and when you know and when you want to say something and all the rest of it yeah and there's also a slight slight delay on discord so sometimes you think someone stopped talking so just so you guys understand if we do talk over each other it's because we're on discord we're not in well and also of course nobody means to talk over each other there's a lot of other factors right one is that we kind of have this unspoken rule that the person who's saying the least important thing will, will, will shut up if you have, you know, so,

so if you have something interesting to say, just barrel on and say it because the editor can cut out that other person and they will usually stop. Like I have this, it's a bit of a bad habit, but it's because we, we record, we don't cut it.

We don't create this fake narrative podcast, right? We just mostly, most of what the hour is goes out right but yeah there is a discord lag and as a result sometimes people will start talking at the same time but also sometimes i am just filling dead air yeah because i don't want there to be awkward silence no that's i'm kind of trailing off and when i do that i'm kind of looking for someone to jump in anyway um i want people to interrupt me and talk over me. But when you do that, Lewis, and sometimes you'll talk for like 10 minutes about something,

I'm normally asleep at that point. So it's kind of hard to chip in. Yeah. But I'll try and stay awake. Like, I'll try and- I've noticed this is a bad habit that I have of talking over people, though. I've done it, I've noticed myself doing it. I think my parents called me out on it. We all do it. And my, one of my dates called me out on it as well.

Wow. Is this a recent thing? Yeah. Oh, when was this baby? When was this? Details. She was telling me,

telling me stuff that I was doing wrong. Like apparently like at a restaurant, um, I was just like, you know, the guy would come over and I'd be like, oh, sure. And he'd look at me and i'd be like oh sure he'd look

at me and i'd say oh can i have the um this or whatever and she and she was like afterwards she was like you're supposed to you're supposed to ask if i want to order first you know it's like as if as if i'd i'd done the etiquette all wrong it's like oh and i was like oh i've never realized that that was a thing before it's not it's not the way she looks at you and says what can i get you you tell them what you'd like yeah yeah i don't say oh what would the lady like yeah what are you fucking victorian gentleman going on a date yeah right give me a break oh here yeah sorry yeah you order first and then you just walk out and leave i've been running into a few of these slightly awkward roadblocks. I did have a date on Halloween, actually.

Oh, nice. Did they wear a costume? I was in costume, so I was still in costume from the day. Was it your little bee costume? No, it was the shitty T-Rex costume. With the full- Like a big rubber T-Rex suit. With just your face showing? Yeah, pretty much.

You went on a date like that? Yeah. I saw one of those, but it was inflatable, and a person stands in them, there's fake legs that come out the side so it looks like you're riding it. Yes. Those are great. So here's my question, Lewis. If you went on a date with a girl, and she was wearing a full-body costume of a dinosaur,

you'd think, what's she hiding under there? That's what you'd think. Right. Because you're a suspicious and cynical man you would be thinking oh no well these days though by the time you actually go on a date with someone you've got a good idea of not that they're putting bikini pics on their profile necessarily but a lot do um you usually have an idea of what you're working with before working with right what you're working with before. Working with. Right, what are we working with here? Crack the hood on that one. Let's have a look.

Yeah, no, no. All looks good in there. Nice engine on it. Good stuff. No rust. Excellent. I'll just check the oil. There is some.

Well, you know. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend it, honestly. I thought I could style it out. Or dating. No, not Or dating. Or T-Rex. Yeah, well, not generally dating, or going to a date in a full Halloween costume. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you guys get frisky, it's gonna take a while to get that off and

on, that's all I'm saying. What if they were into it and they were like, oh god, finally, someone else who's a dino-sexus, or whatever. Right, right, right. Have you done the classic date move where you go out for dinner and you turn up but you'd already eaten just recently and you're not hungry? I don't do the dinner date, that is not a thing. Right.

At least not for a first date. You just told us that you were in a restaurant with someone. Oh yeah, that was like a- Ah, his story's falling apart. Yeah, already. Looks like we've got our suspect. That was like a third or fourth date, that was like a- His story's falling apart. Yeah, already. Looks like we've got our suspect. That was like a third or fourth date, that one. That was some real detective shit there.

Third or fourth date! How many dates, like, what was the frequency of dates for this particular datey? We have seen each other for a while anyway. Don't worry about that. I went to- Well, I'm not worried about it, I'm just asking. I am. I'm very worried. Because I forgot to talk about this, and I've been like, saving it. Well, I'm not worried about it, I'm just asking. I'm very worried.

Because I forgot to talk about this, and I've been like, saving it. Well, not really saving it. I went to Belle Delphine's Halloween party. Oh God, yes! Oh yes, you mentioned this, yeah. Was she there? She was there, yeah, of course, it was her party. Yeah, so she might have been one of those parties where you see her for like,

two minutes and then she's off talking. Yeah, she's like in her office doing work or something and she doesn't fraternize the uh no she invited it was also her birthday lewis i don't want you to take this the wrong way on that week why were you invited to bell delphine's birthday right because i know you very well and she is not in any way the kind of content that you create. No. And I believe she's probably a good bit younger than you, so I'm just saying. Was your opener when you got there, hey guess what, I'm 40 now. I did say that to her, yeah.

Nice. She said she's 24. Wow, there you go. Did you know her before she was famous? Wait, so she was a teenager when she was bottling bathtub water? Yeah, she was like 18. Oh my god. Yeah.

I know, it's actually crazy. So she's really nice. She doesn't look much like you'd think she would, because I think she's done quite a good job of actually remaining. And I guess you have to be when you're that famous. She's very pretty. And not fairly anonymous. She is very pretty.

She's very pretty, She is very pretty. She's very pretty, she's very nice. What does she do now though? Because the last I heard when she was like... I feel like she created a name for herself through the Bathwater stuff, but I'm not sure. And the OnlyFans and all that. Made a fortune and presumably retired. That's exactly what she's done. I think she's made her money and is is happy to perhaps hide now i don't know i think she's um i don't want to speculate but she's obviously got a lovely house she's got she's really i think her whole thing really is making stuff look beautiful i think she's really gone through and made this house look absolutely

fantastic like she's like playing the sims times 100 right you know every room is like customly created she's got like a bar and like a little library and all these sort of paintings on the walls and a dining room and this huge mansion it's got two sets of staircases that's how you know it's a big house right when it's got two staircases i mean i've got two staircases but they go from one floor to the next and then to the next one yeah that is two staircases so if that impresses you come on around I've got two staircases, but they go from one floor to the next, and then from that floor to the next one. But that is two staircases, so if that impresses you, come on round. You've got a very typical Victorian London house set up with the landing, right? Yes.

And then the ballroom, of course. Yes, of course. Yeah. And it's just... it's a nice, really nice house. A lot of nice people. And she's got friends from all sorts of different walks of life, really. So she's friends with the cosplay community. Weirdly, like, I know her from two different friend groups.

How do you know Belle Delphine? I mean, I know you are Louis Brindley du Yog's cast. I'm not having a pop. But I don't imagine you ever being in the same circles as her no well i didn't either necessarily but i'm friends with these um sort of people who know people through comic-con and cosplaying but she's also friends um with some LARPing people and duncan and smithy have seen her on a LARP she goes goes LARPing? You've got to be kidding me. Yeah, she's been on a LARP. Or two.

What, as an orc or something? There's a bunch of LARPing people there. What does she go as? Well, like, I imagine a sexy elf or something. I don't know, some sexy nymph. What do you think she goes as? She doesn't go as a fucking ogre. I was assuming she went as, like, a massively overweight, apron-wearing bartender.

Was my first guess. Ah! Adventurers! With the Cornish accent, of course, yeah. Exactly. It goes as like, Fiona from Shrek or whatever. She definitely does some anyway. But it was a really nice place. Everyone was encouraged to dress up, so, you know, because there were a lot of cosplay. Everyone was encouraged to dress up, so, you know, because there were a lot of cosplay and a lot of laughing people there, everyone sort of made a bit of an effort.

Except for you with your T-Rex, rubber T-Rex costume. Is that what you wore? I got like a rented musketeer. Of course. That would suit you, actually. That would suit you. You got the face. You have a musketeer face. He does. French. Yeah, you have a French leaning face, actually. Yeah. That would suit you. You got the face. You have a musketeer face. He does. French.

Yeah, you have a French leaning face, I would say. With the moustache. Yeah. Yeah, I have French ancestry. Oh, really? That explains it all. Not Lebanese. No.

Lebron. Lebron. That's it. But I mean, the whole thing was very interesting, because all the people are kind of- lots of beautiful people yeah okay and then some weird people right so what what for example um when we were when we were on holiday in corfu my friend tom was looking up these um he follows a lot of these instagram hotties right and so so he was particularly we found this one girl randomly on TikTok whose thing was she would stand over the camera and look down on you and sort of shit talk you and call you names.

Okay. What's her username? But then she would just degrade you and spit on you, right? It was kind of awful, but also kind of shockingly awful in a hot way. Right. So what is her username? Again, I'm not going to. Spitter.

There's tons of them, right? Just put it in the general channel and let me look it up. Otherwise, we're just talking about something pointlessly. Just tell me. Her username is awfulspitter. I have not kept her name. All right. I don't actually know and I don't follow her.

But I recognised her at this Halloween party. And I was like, Tom, it's her from TikTok. And he was like, oh my god, it is. Oh my god. Oh my god. You're correct.

It is. Well, we were just up, you know, so we had to do the accent. And I was shocked. I bet I can guess who this is, by the way. Probably. Anyway, she was there with, like, I thought she was there with her dad. Right. Because I thought I was gonna be the oldest guy there, you know, but- So you were upset to find that there was somebody else there older than you?

I was, yes. I was crushed. It wasn't like, it wasn't a whole kind of... It wasn't like, an orgy or anything, like kind of crazily sexualized or anything, like you might think. No, that never occurred to me. What time did you have to leave to have your prune juice nightcap? Because that's probably when the orgy happened.

Oh yeah, like 8pm I left. I find in my experience, usually the party really starts after I leave. Because I'm old. Right. Yeah. You know what, I'm sorry to intrude, I want you to carry on with the Belle Delphine story, but I do have a quick aside. Have you guys ever noticed that when there's a night out or a party or a get together and you're not there

the stories about what happened at that occasion that you weren't there seems so much more fantastic and everyone sees like some big memorable thing happened and it becomes like a big thing yeah and then when you're there it just seems like a regular night out that's just me i don't know if i just bring the vibe down but i'm never there for the just seems like a regular night out. That's just me. I don't know if I just bring the vibe down, but I'm never there for the story nights. Like the big night where everything happens. Yeah, like the one where everyone's like, oh my God, don't mention that. I go, hey, I'm not there. I must just be such a downbeat drag on fun that I just, I'm like anti-fun to the point

where all of the cool, funny, interesting interesting stories i'm never there for it that's how it feels do you guys feel the same or is it just me i'm happy if it's just me i'm sure i've felt like that before yeah i don't know if i don't know if i feel like that all the time but having said that i can't remember the last time i went out so you know what i mean it's so it it's all so long ago i think that might be it we did go out for drinks in in bristol when you and i were both down about fucking four years ago or whatever this is pre-covid we were both in bristol i can't remember what for my if i go out in bristol i just go to the the uh the pub like by the office yeah yeah yeah and sit outside there all night basically so you and i did that with everyone

else but you and i also had a pint in the hotel yes and that was probably have you been out since that was insane uh probably yeah probably not i can't well i mean that would have been the last time i was down before covid right and uh i haven't been actually so it's been about it might well be just the quantity of going out like they some of these guys go out every night, and so there's bound to be interesting shit that happens when you do that seven days a week. This was a pretty tame party, really.

Everyone was really nice. They had some little treasure hunt stuff. Belle printed out a little book of photos for us all, but photoshopped us all to look like we were all dead, which was quite nice. Oh, it's Halloween. A little picture of them in a thing. She had these really cool decorations, like a giant

terrifying kind of fortune-teller machine-style jester monster thing in the basement that would flail at you. She had some great stuff. It was really, really cool. So did you chat to her, or was she just sort of floating around the party would flail at you oh she had some great stuff it was really really cool so did you uh did you like chat to her or was she just sort of floating around the party hosting well how many people

were there briefly there were about probably like 80 100 people there good god that's a big party what's a mansion so yeah true yeah they brought some people like people would generally bring in sort of plus ones right and? And so, um... What were, like, uh... What was the parking situation like? She just got a really big front drive. Right. And what were the cars, like, parked out there?

Was it, like, Lambos and stuff? Well, I think she has a Ferrari, I think, or something. I wonder how much she's made from all this. It must be millions. She must have. Yeah, she must have. Well, okay. I'm gonna guess she's probably made about 30 or 40 million pounds from this.

I don't know if it's 30 or 40. I think it could be. That's a high amount of millions. I think that's actually a low ball. Wow. Really? Wow. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, her OnlyFans was like, the most popular one ever, right? Oh, I didn't know that. I don't know her only fans was like the most popular one ever right oh yeah i

didn't know that i didn't know yeah and i know that the top few people i mean i i know a couple of people who do um like management uh stuff not not not like in an andrew tape way you know where they're sort of uh getting girls to go on on cams and only fans and just taking all the money for themselves they're sort of talent management for those kind of influences um i've met a few people that do that and they told me that it's a bit like twitch really like all things it's like an inverted pyramid in terms of how much money the very top few make and the very top percent of only fans is divided even further so there's a handful, really, of creators that make an absolute fortune, and then everyone else

is kind of, some of them, yeah, making a decent amount, but it's like those top few are making all the fucking money on OnlyFans. I'm consciously trying to not talk over you for the first time ever. How's that going? I think it's unnatural. We've made hundreds of these episodes. None of us are angry about it.

It's a thing that we do and we're all comfortable with if we just met i get it i mean here's the thing if someone starts talking over you you kind of have to give way and hope that what they're going to have to say is going to be worth the interruption yeah that's just part of it and we all trust each once i start me i'm like a juggernaut though. I'm not stopping for anyone. Like, no good. I'll fucking stop you, bro. I'll fucking put a stop to it. I'll just start screaming. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Break it up. Break it up, you two. You have to go up to your hotel rooms. You can't have this brawl in the hotel bar. There was a guy I knew, I worked with him, and he spoke very long-winded in a monotone. And if

you tried to interrupt him, he would just keep talking and look at you. And he would just stare at you and keep going and it was like all right well this is a battle of wills and you just have to fucking dig in and either keep going and hope you shut up or just give up and just let him monotone for like five minutes it wasn't insufferable he never got invited to the pub no well i worry that i saw this meme on reddit the other day which was like other people telling a story and it's like, begin story, end story. Me telling a story is like pre-prologue story, you know, then like build up to story, then like tangent about, you know, for background and then like meandering, you know, anecdote about something unrelated and then like forgot the original point, back to story, you know,

apologize afterwards. yeah but also our job is to fill airtime like that is what we do if we're on a stream for like like what me and me and uh ozi did uh like a three hour stream where we had to talk about arcade games that people were playing on the on the machine in the office right now if neither of us was happy to fucking pontificate for hours about radiation sickness which is what we ended up talking about that doesn't work it's the job is being able to talk bollocks for hours just to fill people's spare time that's it that's my job people are at work or they're bored or they're studying or they're on their commute or they're

stacking shelves my job is to fill your ears with just anything and if you can stand it job done that's it yeah and as long as it's mildly interesting that's fine i did um a brand deal this weekend for ee it was the most corporate thing i've ever done i felt kind of a bit like a corporate shill about it but at the same time it actually was kind of quite something of a difference so i didn't mind so much but the whole thing was so they basically spent it felt like six figures on launching this e-game store i'm still advertising never heard of it they set up this sort of physical chest giveaway in 13 different cities you know with cameras and cosplayers at each you know and so we had to like you know go i'm going over to birmingham now seeing if anyone's got the chest

you know we were giving out the passwords on stream and we were kind of they also paid to have this game made where we would play the game that they had made for the brand deal right for the three hours so it was a game that you can't get and no one else had ever met and no one else you know it's just a game jam type quality unity asset store game but and so you know we had to just kind of fill and delay and try and like you know say interesting things like oh what's everyone's first console you know we're kind of like i'm kind of like just like padding to to move us on to the next sort of thing they're showing and it is all about just keeping up a low level patter yeah yeah of what's happening i find they do that the best on game award ceremony shows yeah yeah oh man they know how to they they really know how to

to you know if something goes wrong and they gotta fill time or whatever oh they're so cringe they're the scripted bits are cringed and the unscripted bits are even more cringe like the the whole thing i think yes think think about those shows is it's meant to be it's just a big marketing thing obviously but it's like hype hype hype hype hype like the mission is everybody has to be up and happy and hype oh my god i'm so excited like all the time i was making my son laugh which uh which is always a great joy but i was making him laugh this time because we were watching blizzcon we watched the opening ceremony together because he's pretty into gaming and he

you know he's he's interested enough he wanted to see it and so every time somebody would come out on the stage you know they'd say and next up on the stage randy miller lead producer of diablo or whatever and like before he'd get on stage i'd be like doing the voice i'd be like hey what's up blizzcon doing like the fucking red shirt guy asking the questions voice and everything and uh sure enough every time i would make a joke about it it would be word for word like come out and say the same shit and then the same question would be asked and my my thought my son thought it was really funny like you know just the the cynical side of it sort of

thing yeah but i think i think that kind of thing where it's like it's meant to be everybody's like on the edge of their seat for hours, A, that's impossible, but that's the job. I know when I've done Dota events, there's often delays, and it'll be someone's PC is knackered or their keyboard has to be switched out or whatever, and the producers just say, keep going. You just have to fill for as long as possible. Sure.

But we don't have to be excited. No. We just have to talk about Dota. Or just talk about the town where we are, or the city where we are. It's much easier. Being told you're gonna have to fill for like an hour, and it needs to be high volume, high energy that whole time, it must be a fucking nightmare. They're all on coke love they're all on coke

they gotta be i love watching uh like i noticed this um especially whilst watching the opening ceremony for blizzcon because when they when they do their speeches they obviously have to rehearse them to some extent right you can't just really wing it um and most of their speeches are are pretty good they're pretty polished and stuff but there's definitely points in their speeches where and you can tell that they've rehearsed this as well they're stopping for reaction audience reaction or whatever and so many times they would say something and the audience just did not react but there was a really big pause because they're waiting and then they'd be like and then you know they just start

robotically going through the script again oh fuck it was so funny yeah it's good i mean widow stranger to cringe um and there was a few cringe moments at bell delfines i would love to know so there was this like kid there who was like um 18 right and he had his girlfriend who i assume was also 18 um and we were waiting for the bathroom uh downstairs and it was like taking a while and it's like people turning up and they're like starting to queue and i'm like what's going on so um finally there's this this this the girl come the girl from the couple comes out and you know closes the door behind her and so i open the door and go in and the the boyfriend's there pulling his pants up okay okay so they've obviously been having sex in bell

delphine's downstairs right not cool what if they were both not cool what if they were both taking a dump together yeah what if they just dumped together a what if they were both taking a dump together yeah what if they just dumped together a couple's dump it didn't smell of shit Lewis is that old saying dump together

stay together right no shit smell means that is a a red herring that's a shagging or a blow could have been

is this something is this a story is this a good story to tell like you're just doing it for good story to tell if you like you're just doing it for the story are you like yeah you know i i had sex at bell delfee's bathroom this this literally happens at every party every every house party known to man this happens multiple multiple yeah where else are you gonna go are you gonna say bell can we use one of your

50 rooms have sex in please no where can we go We lock the door and no one's going to knock and say, get out of here. They're probably doing it in the bathroom because all the bedrooms upstairs were probably already occupied. Right. No, we can go upstairs. I think that they've had parties there before, so they've got these little velvet ropes and stuff. Do you know what I mean?

They're well prepared. Did she have security there? No. Well, not that you saw. That means they were good security. They were blending. Just disappear back into a bush, you know. So when's the next one? Is she doing a Christmas party? Yeah, can I get invited to Belle Delphine's party, please?

Sure, I'll see if I can get you in. Really? No way. Do a plus one on flax, and then we can get- How far away is it from London? Oh, it's not far. Oh, good. Yeah, I would go. Where would I stay, then? Flax wants to go, yeah.

I just stayed in a Premier Inn nearby. Premier Inn?! Nice! Premier Inn! Alright, I'll go- next time, I'll go with you, and we'll both stay in a Premier Inn. I'm not gonna show you- Stay in a Radisson next time! Stay in a Marriott. Come on. What are you doing? I'm not made of money.

I'm not Belle Delphine. Jesus. Yeah, I'd love to go to a cool party. I love cool parties. I like being the least cool person at the cool party. That's definitely how I felt. That's a gift for me. But if we're together, we can have a laugh about it. That's fine.

We can be like the Statler and Waldorf in the corner, laughing at all these young people having fun and being cool and rich and sexy. That was really what it was like. Are those the old guys from the Muppet Show? Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love those guys. God, I feel so at home with you guys.

Yeah, exactly. I feel safe. If you ever need a companion for a social occasion, I'm a very, very good social occasion companion. Very good. You know what? I've talked to anybody. I'm very chill.

I'm not bigging myself up here, but I also am really good in social situations. Yeah, absolutely! You could take either of us, and you'd have a better time. I know I don't come across that way. Get me in a room, and I'm like a butterfly. I open my wings and look out. I can talk to anybody, about anything. I'm a good listener, I'll chat to people, I'm very sociable, I'm not creepy, I don't

have a bad smell about me, I'm not gonna do anything too embarrassing, it'll be fine. I'll chat to people. I'm very sociable. I'm not creepy. I don't have a bad smell about me. I'm not going to do anything too embarrassing. It'll be fine. I don't have a big swig of cider and then burp. I do that. I don't really do that. Sometimes. Wait, wait, wait.

It sneaks out sometimes. We don't have to fight each other about this. I feel like it's a competition now because there's like, maybe there's only one invite to Belle Delphine's next party. Well, you're going to fucking fly over from Jersey, are you? Fleck from jersey getting all this air time bigging himself up and stuff and i can't i'm merely giving myself my cv i can't even get a word in here i can't hear myself think let's be honest i am not i was like the the most edge invite to this party. Okay. I'm like friend of a friend of a friend. I'm not.

I'm not Belle Delphine's friend. And I was very lucky to be there. And you can't say no. If someone says, would you like to come to Belle Delphine's party? You cannot say no. I'd go just to inspect the house. If somebody invites me to a house party, I'm going. I don't care who it is.

I like to look at houses. Like I will look at somebody the house. If somebody invites me to a house party, I'm going. I don't care who it is. I like to look at houses. Like I will look at somebody's house. Even if your house is fucking totally shit, I'm looking at it. Yeah. I mean, there's limits. I'm not getting on a plane to go to, you know, a house party. Well, then again, maybe a good one in America.

A good house party in America? Like a kegger. Who's... Where is the which celebrity would invite you to a house party that you would say you'd fly across the world to go to nobody fuck me you'd have nobody there's no celebrities that would invite you to their place that you would drop everything for well here's the thing how well do we know them you know i'm gonna fly over there i'm gonna have all these imaginations about what it's going to be

like and i'll just be one one other guy in the corner there's a hundred people yeah i'll just be at a party where i don't know anyone exactly it's one of those situations where the invitation makes you feel like you're special but really when you get there you're not at all yeah you're just just you know you're not they needed to Yeah, you're just, you know, you're not their good mate. They needed to pad numbers, and nobody else was available. And think how much cooler everyone else there's gonna be. You're gonna be like, who invited that guy? Who's that guy? I'm just a friend of theirs.

Oh. What does he do? Nothing. He does nothing. Okay. Oh, I see. So would you rather go somewhere with someone you half know? I'd only wanna go to a celebrity's party if i was like their

best friend yeah you know you you would go in you'd be like oh hey jimmy love what you've done with the home theater god's changed so much since last time you know you could be that person you could be the person yeah last time i was out at the ranch uh the home theater did not look like this uh he's changed changed it a little bit in the past even just the past couple of weeks i was only out here in may so you know yeah you can be that guy pretty yeah you can be the guy who pretty qualified is so cool because he knows jimmy to some let's think of someone famous that you have heard of that you don't hate like it can't be elon musk or anyone like that it has to be some or tom cruise it has to be someone famous that you don't hate like it can't be elon musk or anyone like that it has to be some

or tom cruise it has to be someone famous that you don't think is a dick right right who's that like maybe keanu reeves like keanu okay keanu's having a party yeah at his mansion in la right no no and who's going sips is going i'm going oh if you guys are going if i'm out there already i'll go but i'm not flying exactly see you but you'll fly over to it just to hang out with us. Not just on my own. So the truth of it is I would go if you guys were going because you're my friends. Well, this is it. It's like a 10-hour-plus flight.

It's not worth it to me. No. If I'm already out there for like, you know, even all the times we've gone out to go to like BlizzCon or whatever, we've done other stuff while we're there. Yeah, exactly. You go to Vegas or you go to Universal or you make a trip of it. Yeah, we make a trip of it.

We make a trip of it. So going to that party would be part of the making a trip of it, you know? I don't think that's your destination. So that's what actually we did when I went down to Belldale Fiends, is we spent the day in Brighton as well. Oh, you made a trip with it. Yeah. And we went and had a meal.

We walked on the front and, you know, some of my friends were there and we had a really nice lunch. And it was just, it was honestly the best day ever. Right. It was super, super nice seeing everyone and just hanging out with some people that are really nice. And it was way better than the party, but the party was kind of like the, the party was like the the reason like the thing that you can't miss yeah like the effort but then the the day after where you're slightly hung over uh having a nice lunch with laughing with people you like that was what it was all about that was that was the real the good the good chemicals you know i'll take your word for it i don't have have any friends, and I don't like having friends. I was like, I don't know, I was kinda just like, slightly just out of, like a

fish out of water the whole time at Bealdale Feeds, you know, like, everything was just like, weird. I'm like, what is happening? I love that you went to that party. I love imagining you being at that party, but also any other party as well. Can we talk movies for a sec? Because I've watched quite a few movies over the last year. Oh my god, okay, yeah, let's talk movies.

I have not watched a movie in the longest time, so I'm interested to hear this. So I had, obviously, my flight over to Seattle, and my flight back, and there are films on the plane, and I watched a few films on the plane to try and not die of boredom. I did have on my flight out sips, I had a complete row of four seats to myself. Nice, sure, you've gotta love that. Yeah, the entire back of the plane was empty. So you did not fly business?

Not on the way out, they don't fly you business. No. On the way back, because I was exhausted and I'd been working for two weeks, very long days, at the gate it was a half-empty flight, so they gave you like bargain bin prices for business flights, relatively speaking, so I paid. And so I did pay for business flights on the way back. The guy next to me knew who I was and had been at TI, but he was cool, luckily. So yeah, that was that was

interesting did he uh did he do like a like a champagne toast when he got his uh milk for breakfast here's to you the finest caster at ti god bless you god bless you you son of a bitch he did not no um so i watched i watched a films. I watched a film called A Knock at the Cabin, which is the new M. Night Shyamalan movie. I have a bizarre fascination with his films because, and don't take this the wrong way, I suspect M. Night Shyamalan might be on the autism spectrum because of his difficulty in portraying emotions,

understanding how people speak and understanding what makes someone seem believable when they speak. I genuinely think he probably is. And I think if you watch this film, you'll see the way people talk, the way he gets them to portray things like happiness do not seem to me like someone who actually understands people. So I honestly believe he very probably is. things like happiness do not seem to me like someone who actually understands people so i honestly believe he he very probably is he for all i know he might have even spoken publicly about it you've nailed the m night shyamalan thing of slightly badly made and badly sort of put together

movies that have some hook or some twist i mean that's what made him famous but he always picks interesting things that even if the movie's bad, you still come away from it being like, that was interesting. Right, well this was not interesting, it's terrible. It's basically, the gist of it is, just watch the film, for anyone who's wondering what I'm talking about. I'm not watching it now that you've said it's terrible, though. It is terrible, but in a way where it's fascinatingly terrible.

Much like The Happening, which was this film about where the trees decide to take revenge on humanity and make them kill themselves, has some of the weirdest scenes. That sounds insane. It is insane. It is absolutely insane. The way he gets people to do dialogue is... I've never seen anyone do dialogue and conversations the way he does. The delivery of lines, the script that he writes. For example, there's a scene in The Happening, I think the main character played by, what's his fucking name, Marky Mark, Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, okay. He's a teacher at a school, and do you remember Cameron from Ferris Bueller's

Day Off? That guy, Alan something. Yeah, he's in Succession, right? Right, yes. So he's the older brother in Succession. So there's a scene where he's telling the other teachers that something's happening, and he gets them all together. And the line, it's always stuck with me, because it's so strange, and this is what I'm talking about. He says to them, we believe an event may be happening. And they all look at each other like, oh my god. I was like, what is that? What is that sentence? Is that done in the FBI voice, though?

No, but he just tells them, we think an event may be happening. Sir, we believe an event may be happening. Yeah, and they're like, oh my god. This feels fine. This feels fine to me. It's modern talk. You're just old. No, dude.

No one says that. I'm joking. It's fine. He's talking about the fact that people are just randomly throwing themselves off building and it's either he says we believe an event may be happening or we believe an event may be occurring right what is that what is that how does that make it into a film so knock at the cabin is like that for the entire film where people will say things like that and you think what are you talking about nobody speaks like that nobody speaks like that well you think, what are you talking about? Nobody speaks like that. Nobody speaks like that.

I mean, this is exactly what happens in all of his movies, though. People have to be massively irrational and do like ludicrous things because otherwise the thing falls apart very quickly. The twist. They'll figure out the twist. So here's the twist in this. If you look, it's not a twist. They tell you this in the first 20 minutes.

There's a girl. She's playing a little girl. She's playing outside of a cabin. She's there with her two dads. you look, it's not a twist. They tell you this in the first 20 minutes. There's a girl. She's playing a little girl. She's playing outside of a cabin. She's there with her two dads. They're in the woods having a holiday. Dave fucking Bautista turns up, which will raise an eyebrow. And he's like, he starts chanting to her. And he says, we're going to have to go inside this cabin and talk to your parents.

And you guys are not going to like what we have to say. But we're coming in anyway. So they have this really shitty home intruder thing for like 10 minutes. They get in, and the gist of it is, the world is ending, and unless these three people, the two dads and the daughter, decide which of them they're going to sacrifice, voluntarily and willingly, the other two have to kill the third, and the other four people, Dave Bautista and his little gang, cannot intercede in any way. All they can do is try to tell you, we have this vision, the world's going to end unless you do this.

That's the setup for the film, which is quite an interesting premise. I haven't heard of anything like that before. It's based on a book, but the handling of it is so fucking bad because he's not a good director. So watch the film because it's how not to make a good movie that's that's my takeaway i remember watching old which is his last movie um which the whole premise of course was

you know people suddenly start getting old and aging weirdly on a raft on a beach it's kind of weird but i think it was like and i mean it feels like these are like one-shot comics or something you know like like a graphic novel that was a kind of quirky story that it's almost like a black mirror episode do you mean yeah yeah and i i i thought it was fine i remember watching it and thinking it was it was it was it held my attention and that's honestly like all it needed to do i tell you what i watched it on hallow on Halloween. I watched the talk to me with Simon, the one with the hand. There's these teenagers and they find this hand and they're using it a bit like drugs to get high on doing a seance. It's kind of fun and funny and silly.

And it's honestly, again, I really enjoyed it like it's quite low budget kind of silly horror movie australian i just i just liked i liked it a lot and i i think that's all a movie needs to be for me i understand the whole rotten tomatoes thing of either i liked it or i didn't like i don't i don't need to have like a percentile i don't need to give a movie a percentile review of how much, you know, all the nuanced crap and all this. Do you know what I mean? Okay. I mean, if you're saying it held my attention,

if that's the metric by which you measure the goodness of a film, you're basically saying that you want the human equivalent of the channel for cats and dogs that they put on. Like, you just want to stare at the screen for a bit. I understand, some movies have moved me, for sure, and you know, I get it. And some movies you step away from and you're like, damn, that was a good movie. And others, you're like, well, it was alright. I saw Oppenheimer, I liked that. I thought it was pretty good.

Yeah, it was good. I left that and I thought, yeah, that was a pretty good movie. I didn't mind that one. So, another film I watched was called Blackberry, which is the story of the Blackberry. Sure. Which is a moderately interesting story about the phone, the Blackberry. I didn't realize that one of the main characters is also the director, a guy called Matt Johnson, who wears a sort of headband, like a sweatband across his head has curly hair um his editing was a bit weird and the guy who played the sort of main character hopelessly miscast just

didn't work at all um but it's okay it just kind of peters out so like not a very good particularly dramatic story are those phones a bit it was okay is BlackBerry still going no not really I think a little bit but not like it was. And when they were big, they were untouchable. Yeah, yeah. And then the iPhone came out. It's like the precursor to iPhone, yeah. Yeah, and they were like, oh my God, what do you mean you haven't got a physical keyboard?

No one's going to want to use that. Every single phone has a virtual keyboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I want to just say while we're on the topic of movies, and I know we probably ending in a second but they um there's a new uh trailer for the next ghostbusters movie uh-huh the next ghostbusters movie is called ghostbusters frozen empire what do you think i don't need to see another ghost what do you think well bill murray's in it and it takes place in new york again which is yeah which is very ghostbusters but uh the the name did you watch the newish one yeah i took my son to see it the one with the kids yeah i thought

that was actually quite nicely done yeah i like i i didn't i didn't hate it like it no i it was it wasn't funny it was taller no but it's it's i don't think it's meant to be for us. But Ghostbusters was funny. My son found it pretty funny. Did he like it? He liked it, yeah. Yeah. But I feel like there's too much action in a lot of these films. Yeah, but I mean, again, I think that one is aimed at a younger demographic for sure. Yeah, that's fair enough.

But I think you can tell it is because there's a lot of the old stuff in it, which I think is for adults who are sitting there with their kids to be like, oh, yeah, I remember this music. Oh, yeah, I remember this actor, whatever. But not enough of it to make it for our generation, if you like. You're right. I mean, it kind of stands on its own in that regard, in that you could, you don't have to have watched Ghostbusters to get this. It's fine.

It is just an okay. I don't want to see it again no but like if my kids want to watch it on halloween or whatever i'll sit through it like it's it's it's not an impossible it's not insufferable like no but i also don't think it's going to become some kind of classic no i think that's the problem is that a lot of these films, you watch them, they're lacking some magic or some brilliance or something even distinctly memorable or rewatchable, that when I think of Ghostbusters, that's a film I've seen a lot of times. And you can just watch it and it's fun and it's great and it's just so well done. But these films, they're well made, but there's just nothing lasting to them. Yeah, Ghostbusters when it came out Got the 80s treatment though Because I had Ghostbusters

I watched the movies I loved them And I had Ghostbusters bedsheets And I had toys And I had toilet paper And Ghostbusters granola bars In my lunch It was huge

And I don't think Ghostbusters Will ever be like that again you know i don't think it's a big enough ip now to be a dominant you know in in a world where paw patrol and fucking uh whatever else kids watch now you know uh miraculous and stuff like that it's just it's it's a non-starter well again i think ghostbusters was a comedy movie yeah it was with a very specific audience of its time yeah and that has changed you know if you're making a ghostbusters movie today it has to be a comedy movie for kids or for teens you know like and it has to contain the stuff that was funny yeah you know is funny to them now and that we are not the target audience

the new ghostbusters movie and think man that was really fun no it's it's just not a comedy it is supposed to be though and i think that sometimes people forget there are some funny moments paul rudd's pretty funny in it i think all a lot of successful movies this year are full of comedy. You know, like the Barbie and the Mario Brothers movie and Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy is supposed to be the more comedy-like. I mean, certainly the latest one this year wasn't, was it? It was a bit of a misery fest. I feel like Guardians of the Galaxy has just become somehow the pinnacle pinnacle of comedy but like i i haven't

really seen any of them but like every time i hear somebody talk about them they're like they're hilarious like they're the funniest they're okay but i can't imagine them being that funny like no they're not that funny they're okay they're okay but here's the thing these are not comedies right all of these guardians of galaxy but but Barbie was a comedy, 100%. Very big budget comedy, but a comedy. But a comedy doesn't need to cost $150, $200 million. No. The only reason it costs that

is because it's an action adventure comedy. Like these are big budget rollercoaster ride movies with flashing lights, Lewis, so you'll be able to pay attention and all of that stuff going on, right? But Ghostbusters was a relatively low budget movie compared to those i watched a really interesting video the other day about where mid-range movies have gone where are the mid-range movies movies that cost 10 to 50 million in modern money yeah nowadays if they're going to make a movie the studios are

going all in because they're looking for that one and a half two billion dollar revenue yeah from a franchise they don't give a shit about anything else yeah it's it's it's a lot more based in science when ghostbusters came out in the 80s it was it's not it wasn't it wasn't a movie that was ever meant to be made it was it was made by people who wanted to make it and were able to fund it uh but so many times it was almost completely canned and uh and another movie that was like that was home alone the original home alone which is like a classic now but at the time nobody wanted to make it everybody thought it was a stupid idea it was gonna be a stupid movie it wasn't gonna make any money and then it went on to make more money than

a lot of films ever have made you know what i mean so it's like ghostbusters made a quarter of a billion ghostbusters was was such a there was there was things that helped make it so popular like the the fact that like the theme song was so catchy and just people loved it at the time or whatever. And a couple of other things, but otherwise it had no business ever being made. It was just one of those movies that is a miracle that it ever saw the light of day, but everybody involved is so glad that it did because it did so well. Did you guys watch the new Indiana Jones movie? No.

So I have no interest in watching that film. I saw people watching it on the plane and most of them turned it off halfway through. Yeah. Oh, no. It's kind of sad. And I was like, damn, like you're literally on a plane. Yeah. You've got nothing else to do.

And you're like, I don't want to spend this time that I'm trying to waste. Well, Indiana Jones at the time when they were coming out and they were good was there wasn't really anything else like it. They were they were they were really cool movies at the time but nowadays you've had so many movies that have come out that are not like indiana jones but but could definitely scratch your indiana jones itch you know what i mean and i just can't believe that they would still make indiana jones movies in this day and age you know like it's i also feel like they they they they're not making them good it just relies too much on nostalgia from people that are even older now you know what i mean like and

and the older you get you just get angrier and more cynical as well so it's never gonna work is it people are people aren't gonna watch the new one when they could just go back and watch the old ones if they need here's the thing right i think it is sometimes it's a proving ground right like a lot of movies came out and if it wasn't good we wouldn't be talking about it right if if indiana jones and ghostbusters weren't good they would have just been forgotten like the hundreds of other movies that are out there but in the same way i feel like these movies were on the brink of being forgotten though it's only they get revived just at the right time. But I don't know if it's ever super successful.

I don't know. I think I think Indiana Jones and Ghostbusters have always been in the popular consciousness. They've they've they've they're not the main ones, but they are the original movies for sure. Yeah, I would go back and watch Ghostbusters one every once in a while, you know, like with my kids or whatever. But I'm not I don't know if I would necessarily go out of my way to watch any of the newer Ghostbuster movies because I just watched the originals. I think a lot of the time, like, okay, a writer will write loads of books and some

of them will be bad. Some of them will be good. Some of them will be better than expected. And he doesn't necessarily, or she doesn't know what's going to be good or bad when he puts it out there. And she doesn't know which ones are going to take off. And sometimes worst ones that they think oh this was something i knocked out you know there was a load of crap that actually ends up being their most successful piece of work right yeah and i think that's the same with movies sometimes when they make these movies they don't know how they're going to be received or whether they're going to be the next huge thing or not but no i think in a sense the sequels are always a victim of the original success they're trying to chase that success and you're always going to be compared to it. And not only that, but so often you can understand

why the theatres are like, well, people like this. Let's make another one. But then they don't get proven writers in. They get scriptwriters to write them a thing bespoke. And a lot of the time, these screenwriters and these Hollywood people haven't necessarily proved themselves, I feel like. I feel like so much stuff is written with, we just need a screenwriter.

We're going to make a Ghostbusters movie. Someone has to write it. Let's hire a guy. He's a script writer. He writes things. Jeremy, if you're not going off an originally written story that's already, and I'm not saying that original stories don't get bad adaptations. I mean, Wheel of Time on Amazon Prime is terrible,

working off a great source material and the lord of the rings rings of power is terrible based off original original writing you know they're both equally bad but so they can both fail but what i'm saying is i think i think in a sense if you have something that's good in the first place there's a good chance that it's going to be good in in in the adaptation like a lot of things don't fail in their adaptation and i think that the best you know like marvel's having having trouble now because it feels like they've they've not they've diverged from comics or at least like graphic novels where they'd had this sort of already written planned universe that felt good and people were positively responding to and they're now sort of doing these originals that and they're scrabbling around thinking well what do we do um and and i

think yeah it's just sometimes these they're so lukewarm these the newer movies like you said pflex they have they're a roller coaster modern movies don't have the time and the nuance to tell like this you know really emotional stories that's what that's what tv series a lot of uh a lot of good action movies from a while back and comedies as well kind of just told simple stories that fit into that the time of a movie right like yeah and but everything has to be everything has to be ending and multi-movie spanning you know you know what i mean like it's it's very rare now that you just get a movie where it's just like yeah it's like a pretty simple idea but it's cleverly written or you know it's it's written in a way that's funny

or whatever you know like it seems really rare now somehow it is interesting that the two top movies this year barbie and mar, are based off basically toys. Wait, did Oppenheimer not do as well as Mario? Of course it didn't. What am I thinking? No, I mean Mario's. And Barbie are the two massive, massive ones.

So it goes to show that something like Blackberry is a massive flop. Right. No, but it also wasn't a big budget movie no if people still had Blackberries would it have been a budget would you know if no depends on how interesting the story is

I suppose I mean the story is not that interesting because we all knew the fucking story yeah it's like the Blackberry came out it was very big and then a better phone came out that's essentially the story you know like the out. That's essentially the story. You know, like the story of Apple or like the story of Google or whatever. They're interesting because they did things that nobody did at the time.

Whereas with BlackBerry, it's like, yeah, okay, you have all these platforms, you have all this technology, and you made a phone. And it's not that remarkable. It's not that interesting. I mean, I thought the Steve Jobs film with Michael Fassbender was really good. Making a personal computer when none existed is a little bit more interesting. I mean, well, there were personal computers. Yeah, yeah, but it's not.

What he did was more... It was interesting because it showed that he was driving the company away from being a tech company to being a consumer tech company yeah and he understood most people want something that frankly looks pretty and is easy to use and they care more about that than whether you can swap i love i love the uh the the apples of the day that were quote-unquote beautiful and easy to use those are the fucking little bricks so shitty but they were i mean at the time computers were even worse oh i know like the commoner 64 when you loaded it up just had a prompt like a flat fucking flashing cursor and a bunch of text at

the front about what bios you were on yeah like that was it it wasn't it didn't have a it didn't say hello world and and and open up and you didn't have a mouse and all that so really this was like amazing stuff yeah when it arrived and i think that was an interesting story and showing frankly a fictionalized version i'm sure i hope of what he was like and the family life and all that it was it was an interesting film whereas a blackberry film is just not very interesting the other thing i watched this week that i really actually liked i didn't think i would like is the beckham documentary on netflix right now i think it documentary on Netflix I grew up in the 90s in the UK and so I didn't realize just how much I remember from that time I'm like I could name all the people on the England football team you know I could name all

of these people I was like oh my god it's them oh my god it's this guy you know like it was kind of kind of weird how much you osmosis back when you were a teenager. I'm a sucker for documentaries, like from the 90s and the 80s, because I love the old footage, you know, because it's nostalgic, right? You see, sometimes they show like old commercials that were on TV,

or you see these old celebrities that were big at the time that you've just completely forgotten about or whatever. For me, like half the time, I don't even really need to be that interested in the subject matter the documentary as long as they're showing like lots of old shots of cities and stuff like that and yeah i mean i'm not into football i'm not into david beckham or victoria beckham and i but i was i lived through it and it was in the background. And so it's kind of this- I feel like that would be interesting enough though.

I think they probably have a pretty interesting story generally. I don't know. I wouldn't hate to watch that. I will say one thing about it. There is a scene in it where Victoria Beckham's talking about her upbringing and David Beckham throws her under the bus by saying, you weren't working class, and embarrassing her. And it's become quite a sort of viral clip of him asking her what car she was driven to school in and stuff.

And I'm thinking her image is kind of very public. David, don't say that. David. David. How dare you, David. I'm as working class as you are we only had two Mercedes growing up

oh no oh fucking hell David fucking hell it is a bit of that it is a bit of that actually they all come across quite nice

there's just before that clip actually in the documentary there's this bit where the dog jumps up on Victoria's lap and she's like oh good I've got a dog here to make me

seem more human and um and david's like you know shall i get the rest of them just to you know help so there's a couple of little bits like that what uh i feel like david beckham well sorry david and victoria beckham's son, their oldest son, just got married. Brooklyn? Yeah, just got married. But he got married to a daughter of, I'm pretty sure, another famous person. But it made me think as well, because I was just reading about Francis Bean Cobain, who's

just gotten married to Tony Hawk's son. Oh, yeah. So it's another- Well, they all go to the same Belle Delphine party. Of course. Yeah, yeah. So it's another... Well, they all go to the same Belle Delphine party. Of course. Yeah, yeah. But it's... Yeah, of course.

But it's interesting, like, the... You know, all these names of, like, yesteryear, whatever. Yeah, all their kids are... Their kids are now, you know, getting to know each other or whatever. Yeah. And at parties.

Different circles and stuff. The parties that rich kids go to. It is. It's the Belle Delphine parties. That's what happens. So there you go, Lewis. Those people you saw coming out of the bathroom that were having sex, that might have been

Michael Portillo's son and Michael Portillo. Eric Dickel's daughter, you never know. Yeah, you never know. One final recommendation. The new series of Invincible started on Prime. I watched episode one yesterday with my eldest. Recommended.

Great show. If you haven't seen Invincible, watch it. It's great. I'm going to wait until it's all out, actually, because they're trickling it out, aren't they? Yeah, once a week. All right, cool. Well, there you go.

Well, that's some great catch-up. We caught up with where we've been, all the movies, everything else. Yeah. I'm on holiday next week, so we'll probably do a mailbag but thank you everyone we'll see you see you soon goodbye