Triforce! - Triforce #307: Not a Video Game Podcast

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

Triforce! Episode 307! Would you go to Turkey for a Brazilian Butt-Lift? Our jaded, ancient brains are hoping Path of Exile 2 is the next big game to scratch our gaming addiction and we play a quick round of the drinking game Trivia Shots! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello everyone, welcome back to the Triforce. Welcome back. Sips? Yeah? How you doing? I'm good. Oh man. I think my computer is dying though. I think I have issues with my computer. It is slowly dying.

We have issues with our minds, our bodies, our technology. Yes. We are truly aging. I've grown a little bit with beard this Jingle Jam and I hate everything about it. I feel like it's making me look older because it's got a lot of grey in it. I've seen a few comments from people on Jingle Jam saying, uh, Lewis is getting old and it's making me feel old. I don't like to talk about getting old, but it is like a constant nagging annoyance. Oldness. You just feel... Well, people were fighting it though. Like, I don't know if you saw Minimooka, he had a hair transplant.

It was like a sponsored, it was like a brand deal. Yeah, he had to go to Turkey or something for it. He was paid. Who's this? Minimooka, the Liverpoolian lad who you've probably met. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a really funny, nice guy. He got paid! He got paid to have a hair transplant. Did he need one?

Uh, not really. Like maybe a little bit. Like, um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that. You, you wouldn't do a hair transplant. No, I wouldn't do it. For like a promotional thing. No, that's so strange. What about getting your teeth done? Would you have your teeth done in a promotional thing? No. No. Would you have like any medical stuff done? Would you have your...

Penis removed. Again? Would you have your penis removed and shoved up your ass? As a promotion? Yes. How much are they paying me? I don't know. Can they put it back the way it was afterwards?

What's the going rate? Like a laptop. Fuck off. And some fucking Magic the Gathering cards. I mean, I don't know, like, it's not exactly that... It's a cosmetic thing, right? And I think you have to be confident enough to do it in a... I mean, he put a whole vlog... He hadn't put a vlog out for like two years. And he put this video out for him going to Turkey.

And honestly, I thought it was hilarious. I think Mini's a really funny guy. Have you ever been to Turkey before? No, I've not. No, me neither. I have. But a lot of people were popping out there to have their teeth done. Yeah.

Or something done, right? Well yeah, but this girl died. They had an inquest into her. She went out to Turkey for a Brazilian butt lift. Yes, I heard about this. And she died. Yeah, they didn't do it right. Yeah.

Three days after the operation, they fucked it up. She was really sick. And the guy called the clinic and said, because they were like, if there's any change in your condition, give us a call and we'll come out. She's basically feeling like she collapses. They come out to look at her. They didn't do anything. They didn't even look at the part of her body where they'd had the operation. They just sort of took her blood pressure and then she collapses again. And they're just giving her slices of cucumber. And then she feeding her slices of cucumber rather than actually providing medical assistance. Turns out they're not even qualified nurses. They're just some people that work at the clinic.

She dies and I'm like, no, I wouldn't go and do this cosmetic surgery tourism shit because no. Well, I'm not suggesting you have a Brazilian butt lift. No, but I don't want anything like that happening outside of, at least in the UK, I feel we have some system that I am aware of, even though it may go wrong at times, to make sure that you've got to be licensed and it's all overseen and blah, blah, blah. But other countries, I don't know what their rules are. I mean, there must be a reason it's cheap out there. So, no thanks. Well, it's big business now, isn't it? There's a lot, lots of people are getting stuff done. Lots of people are getting touch-ups.

But that attracts a certain kind of con man that I don't want to be involved with. Thank you. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I think it's very seductive, the whole idea that you can get it done on the cheap and have a holiday out of it. And there is like a turkey teeth kind of meme almost, right? It's kind of this ITV2 look with the...

ITV2 look? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is definitely a style, right? I saw a guy... what's his name? Fuck, I can't remember his name now. Is it like Joe... it's not Joey Essex. It's... Sure, something like that.

I think he was on The Only Way Is Essex. I've never watched the show before, so I'm not overly familiar with it. But, this guy looks like he had a beard tattooed onto his face. Amongst other things. He's had his teeth done and everything. I can't remember his name now, but yeah, the tattooed beard onto face is an interesting one for sure. Yes, well you can have a beard transplant as well.

You can actually have like a hair transplanted into your beard. Into your beard, if you got gaps and stuff. Which thickens it up, you know, and some people really want a beard. Yeah, I suppose. And that's a good way to do it. I think you're right, P-Flex, there's obviously different levels of this procedure,

and some of them, it depends on who you are, you know, and if you need them or not. But I think like, I don't know, like, it's going to Turkey for it doesn't seem like, just doing medical stuff on the cheap is always like... Going away to have something done always feels like a little bit risky. Just a gamble, isn't it? It's a bit of a gamble. You never know.

I mean, look, I'm not saying that there aren't... You're gambling anytime you have something like that done. And for anyone who wants to say, hey, well, there's plenty of cases where shit went bad over here, you're absolutely right. But it's like saying that you bet on a nearly sure thing and it didn't come in versus slightly worse odds. It's like saying that you bet on a nearly sure thing and it didn't come in versus slightly worse odds. And when it comes to my health, I'll generally take the close to a sure thing as I can get

rather than roll the dice on a gamble. That's the way I see it. Yeah. Speaking of medical stuff, I had to go to A&E yesterday. Not for me. What happened? My son got absolutely smacked in the face with a plastic cricket bat at school. Yeah.

Big bump, like, between his eyes. He was just strolling by, and one of his friends was, like, y'know, getting ready to hit the ball or whatever they do in cricket. And pow! He's already got your genes, and now he he's been hitting the head with a cricket bat. I know, right in the face. Yeah, poor guy. Did they at least score a four or a six?

He said it was a pretty good hit after he sort of recovered, but luckily he didn't blackout or anything like that. I think it was all just... Was it another kid that hit him? Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was one of his friends. But like it was, you know, he was just a really awful accident, you know? Like it wasn't... Oh, okay. They weren't aware of each other at all being...

They've not made like a lifelong nemesis out of this kid? No, no, no. Okay. They're still going to be playing Fortnite together and stuff? I think so. Yeah. I think there'll be lots of Fortnite. Although, well, I played Fortnite with them a bit yesterday. I was playing, they've got a new mode in Fortnite called Ballistic, which is basically Valorant or like CSGO inside Fortnite. It's like, they've got, Fortnite's crazy now. They have so many different games within the game, you know?

It's like, you can do builds or no builds or there's like You know, it's like, uh, you can do builds or no builds or there's like a music, there's like a guitar hero version of the game. There's like a, there's all these different games. So they released this one called ballistic, which is five V five. I see. So the strategy is cause originally the strategy was let's put the Epic games store up and then we'll sell all of these kids. Fortnite only Fortnite, all these other games, but actually kids didn't want to play those games, they just wanted to play more Fortnite. And so now their strategy is to make games in Fortnite.

Well, and it makes sense too, because there's so much... A lot of people have spent a ton of money in Fortnite. I see. Including my son, sadly. On skins and battle passes and all this stuff. So all of these game modes within Fortnite, it's like, it's just basically like having, you know, new games all the time. You know, they're just copying popular game modes or games or whatever. And then,

but you can still use all your cosmetics and your emotes and- So it's like a Fortnite- You can buy shoes in Fortnite now. Forget skins, you can just buy shoes. What do you mean? You can buy Air Jordans. Yeah, trainers. But for your character. That's a status symbol in school.

That's a status symbol in school. And so kids want that. Yeah. So it's like however many V-Bucks it is. That's like you having a Mercedes. You can just wear them with any skin or whatever. There's probably some limitations I guess. But yeah.

That's crazy. So you can wear your cool trainers in like 5v5. That's it. Were you joining him and four of his chums? No, no. It was just the two of us playing because he wanted to try it out. He wasn't really sure what it was. And as soon as it started, it's like, oh, seven rounds.

And I was like, fuck, this is just Valorant. And I said to him, before we start, I said, I'm just warning you. This is a very sweaty game mode. You know, it's not people don't play this for fun. People, you know, this is like, they take it very seriously. He's like, no, come on. What do you mean? I got my emotes and stuff. We got like two rounds and he's like, dad, I want to quit.

I don't like this. So he's playing Marvel Rivals today. He's home from school and he's going to try Rivals. He's pretty excited. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. That's the Overwatch hero shooter, but it's all Spider-Man. And it's free and it just came out. Yeah, it's free, it just came out. Yeah, it's free. It just came out.

So it should be not too sweaty. Well, I mean, it's free. If you want to buy skins, it's like 30 quid for a skin. Spider-Man's skin. But yeah, I mean, otherwise it is free. Well, well, my gosh. Goodness. That's my Gorsh.

My Gorsh. Gorsh. Gophie. Fortnite's over. Yeah. No, yeah. So it's, there's always, there's always something threatening, you know, like, and uh, you, like you hear him, I mean, he's just turned 13. His friends are all like 12, 13 and the way they talk about stuff is so funny.

You know, like they'll, they'll be like, Oh my God, I, I'm a, I'm a Marvel rivals main now. Forget Fortnite. I'm done. Like he hasn't even played the game, he just likes it. He likes the concept art. He's like, oh my god, I'm gonna play so much of this. And his friends are like, oh yeah, god, I can't believe we used to play Fortnite. Like, it just came out. No, I'll be back on it tonight. Like, guaranteed. Because... Oh, it's hilarious.

Yeah, they just can't. They can't stay away, really. They can't stay away. They can't stay away. It's too much. Oh my gosh. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much investments, too much FOMO.

Like it's, it's all of the addictive qualities. They got them. They figured it out. How it changes your attention. I mean, back in the day, I was like this, I was super excited and hyped about any new thing that came out. I couldn't this. I was super excited and hyped about any new thing that came out. I couldn't wait. I was excited about it.

And now, like, we talk about something like Path of Exile 2 or whatever, and Xylus is still like that childish level of excitement about it, like your son. And he comes to me and I'm like, I don't know if I can be excited about it. It's owned by a big Chinese corporation. It's like they're cashing in. It's like, I don't know. I'm super, super cynical about it. And then I know that maybe I end up putting 250 hours into it or whatever, before I realise what I'm doing. But I don't know, I've definitely changed. I'm just looking

for something that scratches an itch now. I'm like an addict, do you know what I mean? I can't take that fresh shot of a new drug anymore. I've done so many over the years that now, to me, it's just like, ugh, this one's not terrible. I've been trying a bit of Path of Exile, too. And further, I mean, I wouldn't say excited is the word, because it's a bit different when you're older, and especially when you have kids and stuff. The game came out on Friday at seven o'clock. I couldn't play it at seven o'clock. So I ended up coming out much later in the evening to play. And there were queues and stuff. So I thought, oh, well, you know, typical, whatever. I'm not going to be able to play. But I waited for

like 10 minutes, got through the queue and stuff, got in, played and didn't really like it to begin with. I think I was expecting Path of Exile and it was a very slowed down and much more difficult version of Path of Exile. It's like, okay, the focus is a lot more on these big boss fights and stuff now. I think eventually you can get to the point where you're just clearing screens really quick and stuff, but everything is so slow to start with.

It's really tough. Really? Yeah. There's like barely any loot dropping. They want you to like craft loot more as you go, rather than just being showered with like tons of stuff. Um, so there's not that much currency that drops either. So you've got to be kind of careful of, you know, what you're upgrading and

transmuting and stuff like that. And, um, it's wild. It's, it's, it's crazy. You actually get stuck on bosses because if you don't have, if you don't have like a decent enough build or you're not doing some bosses are like damage checks. Some bosses are like resistance checks and stuff. So it's like you turn up and it's just like, yeah, OK, I'm dying on this guy like 30 times. And so what you have to grind.

So you have to you've got to go back and grind up. You got to try to find stuff. It's like once it clicks, it's actually pretty great. Like I didn't I started off not enjoying it because I thought, this is not Path of Exile. I want to be quick. I want to be zooming through. I want to clear everything quickly. I want fucking, you know, showers and showers of loot and stuff. But once it clicks, you kind of get used to the pacing and stuff.

And you think like, yeah, actually, you know, this is, this is kind of good. You have to like, sometimes you just got to like pull back a bit and think, OK, I need to go like farm this area because I need to find a better weapon or you know, I have to craft a better weapon or I have to craft a better armor piece because I need more energy shield or I need some more life or something like that. And it's just like, it's kind of nice actually. It's got a nice, nice pace to it. It's not for everyone.

I think a lot of people are disappointed. I think a lot of people are doing the mental gymnastics around, it's early access, what do you expect? And justifying and everything. It's a bit of a mess, but I've been enjoying it. I think it's been pretty fun. It is a weird one because it is so grindy, right? Or at least Path of Exile was.

And it definitely felt like you were on autopilot a lot of the time and people would play it with something on in another window. You know, it's like kind of an idle... I always think of Path of Exile as like an idle game, really. With a separate game of spreadsheets for you to play when you're at work. And you could just have this talent tree tab open and plan out your build and do all that meta game in the background. And it is... There is an element of this in games to make them slow on purpose, right? To make it feel like a build up. It's not like Elden Ring, you know, anyone's complaining and saying, oh, I couldn't kill the first boss instantly. You know, the attitude is that it's, you want to have to learn and spend some time experiencing

it. And do you know what, maybe it's a good thing to actually make people just look up and... because it's so frantic, right? That's the other thing about Path of Exile. It feels like every second during the game you should be maximising. Yeah, it is. Because it's like, if I was out there grinding, I'd be showered with loot every second. And I'm just sat here looking at my talent tree, I'm wasting time. It does feel like it puts this kind of artificial stress and anxiety onto you when you're playing it. I don't know if you get that feeling with

it. I certainly don't get that feeling in some other games. You know? I don't know. It's a weird one because things can be going well and you're just like, you're clearing bad guys and you're not really stressed out and you're just thinking, hopefully there's a boss coming up soon or whatever, but then out of nowhere you just get dumpstered. You're just not expecting it. You'll get like, in Path of Exile you got those porcupine guys and if there was like nine of them on the screen at the same time, you didn't

react to them immediately. They would just burst you all at the same time and you'd be dead. Uh, you, a lot of that still happens, you know, those guys that do the machine gun move out of their chest, like blood shooting out of their chest, you, you, you'll come across like 20 of them. The problem is as well as you're slow, but the monsters are not. They're still fast. So like, there's not as much movement speed buffing in the game as you're used to.

So you're not zooming around as much, you're a lot slower. I think this is the problem for me. And the bad guys are very fast still. It either has to be one or the other, in my opinion. It has to be either Elden Ring where you have to dodge these skill checks and you have to pay attention and it's an interesting experience, or it's a boring fucking grind. And Path of Exile doesn't fill either of those very well. Because there's still that split second death. You see it when someone has a lag spike and their hardcore run is over and it's like, well, you know, that's, that's just bad games. In my opinion, that's bad games.

Right. Like that you, you have to have like split second reactions or stuff, but, but, but then, you know, then the game says, oh, well, it's your fault for having a build where you didn't take the talent that was the cheat death talent. You didn't take the thing that saved your... Well, those don't really overly exist in that. That's a big thing in Diablo, the cheat death stuff. A lot of builds have a cheat death sort of thing in it. But in Path of Exile, in my experience, there's

not that many. No. It's much more punishing. You just get absolutely cain'd. If you don't have the resistances, or you don't have the damage or whatever, it's just like the game will punish you. And it's a low punishment too. I think it's an evolution though too. I always say this about games, but I think it's just this is how it's come about. So New and Path of Exile 2, when you die, there's checkpoints on the map now, but when

you die you respawn at the checkpoint, but the map respawns. So if you've cleared, everything is back. And not only that, any dropped loot is gone as well. So like, if you picked it up, it's fine. But if you die, and there's like three legendaries on the ground, they're gone when you come back. So it's like even more punishing. Some of it is a bit weird, but I think, you know, they, I think there was a league in Path of Exile that, they, I think there was a league in path of exile that was called, I think it was a league. I could be wrong about this.

This is just what I've gathered, but I think there was a league in path of exile called ruthless, which was kind of like a stripped down, almost hardcore version of the game where there wasn't as much loot and stuff. And, and a lot of people are saying Path of Exile 2 is just ruthless mode, you know, like, but more fleshed out. And like, they've always wanted to do this kind of game or whatever. So I don't know. I think it's tough, right? Because how much do you bow to community feedback as well, right? Because sometimes bowing to community feedback alienates large chunks of the community. Like in RuneScape, they have, I don't know if you know about this with old school RuneScape.

I can't play that game because apparently it is like crack and I would get really addicted to it and never do anything else. Probably. You probably would. Because you can do crafting and stuff, right? It's like crack. And they have a thing in there where, in order to make a patch, at least half of, I think it's actually 60% of people have to vote for it.

It used to be more, but nothing got voted for that much. You know, cause the community's like, right, they won't vote something more than 50-50. Apparently humans can't vote more than 50-50 on anything. It's crazy. But they have the same problem where by adding something that half the community wants, they upset half the community. And I feel like all these people who've committed their time and energy and grinding for the last couple of weeks into Path of Exile, when a patch comes along, a change or something, they all get furious and upset. And it's like, it's so difficult. ALICE Well there was a patch just yesterday, and it affected a bunch of on-effect builds. Builds that might be centered around on-freeze, do a comet, or on a minion death, do an explosion

or whatever. But they did this blanket change to a lot of this stuff, which just ruined so many people's builds. And people are like, what the heck? You know, like I've been taking me a long time to get to the level I'm at. And now they've obviously decided it does not work at all. I can't kill anything. They decided that it's early access. And that means they can A, sell it. Yes. Okay. So normally part of it was free, but this time you have to buy it to get early access. Right. And the second thing is it's, um, they can make is, the excuse can be, we can make these changes, which they obviously have to do or else the game's just broken because someone finds some little builds, they get shared around immediately and then everyone's just doing that instead.

And then they're playing the game in a way that they didn't intend. And I don't know, it has this competitive nature to it as well, which is quite a big part of it. The leaderboards and the score, and accolades, that's a big part of the game. It's not just a casual fun thing, it's not like a sticker game. Yeah, the guys who play it and play it a lot are pretty hardcore. Yeah, and that's part of it. And as a result, I just don't envy people

doing it. Sorry, Pflac, you've not said anything. He's not a passive exile enjoyer. Or a ringscape enjoyer. No, we can stop. Sorry, we just- Yeah, sorry, what have you been playing lately? No, no, no, no, let's not talk about video games anymore.

Okay. That's like 25 minutes of- We'll move on, sorry. Yes, sorry about that. Sorry. I just know that once we go down that rabbit hole, it's just going to of- We'll move on. Sorry. Sorry about that. I just know that once we go down that rabbit hole, it's just going to be a podcast about video games. Games and games and games.

Originally, this podcast was meant to be about video games way back then. I don't think it was, you know. And now it's become the usual. It's become so politicized. All we talk about- Guys, let's stop talking about games. Let's talk about politics again. Politics, politics all the time.

I want to talk about this game that we played at the pub the other night. Talking of games, this was a real life game, which I know is weird for all of us. This was called Trivia Shots. Okay. Paul Choi basically told me this game. And what you do is instead of trivia like, what is the longest river in the world or whatever, it's things like how many pints of Guinness do you think are drunk every year globally? And whoever is the worst guess has to drink from their drink.

Okay. So how many pints of Guinness do you think are sold annually worldwide? Worldwide? Yeah. Oh, how many in a year? Three. How in a year? Three... How many per year?

I'm gonna say like two billion. Okay. Good grief. Lewis? Okay, I'm gonna say 500 million. Sips is very close, it's 1.8 billion. Whoa. I was really close.

You're drinking, you gotta drink Lewis. You were very close. Oh my god. Okay, I'll drink some of my tea, is that okay? Yeah. So we also, we were saying you have to tea, is that okay? Yeah. So we also, we were saying you have to take a glug of your drink, but then we were like, well, what's the difference between a sip, a glug and a gulp? You should get your guys on this one, the room guys.

The guys who did the room thing. No, we didn't need to, we googled it. A sip is about five mils, a glug is about two tablespoons, about 30 mils. And a gulp is about 80 to 90 mils. Whoa. That's all it's all. You can look all this up anyway. So here's the next one. How do you feel like I feel like a gulp is only a gulp

if you're like almost choking because you've you've taken too much, you know? You know, like you do that with water sometimes you drink too much water and then, and then you swallow it and you're like, oh god, that hurt, actually. Yeah, you don't hear gulp used as a positive that often. No. Like, you might say, I was swimming, I accidentally took a big gulp of the pool water and then I was coughing. Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah. Well, these are the kind of things that you would find in a Dungeons and Dragons handbook, right? Because the DM would be like, uh, how much of that did you actually drink? Or did you have a sip, a glug, or a gulp? Yeah, exactly. And the player will be like, I had a sip. You've got to roll five dice to determine if it was a gulp or just a sip or whatever. That's a

Dungeons and Dragons thing, right? Exactly. You've got to roll a critical dice roll. It is a very, it's very old school medieval measurement, right? Exactly. Critical dice roll. It's a very old school medieval measurement, right? Because I guess people back in the day, the measures that we have, right, are supposed to be more associated with something like a pound of something was a, you know, a pound of silver or whatever. I don't know.

A pound meant something physical more. Whereas, sorry, carry on. Anyway. Next one. How many Big Macs are sold in the US in a year? So this is just America, Big Macs per annum, North America. Five billion. Five billion.

Five billion Big Macs. I mean, I don't know whether it's, what's that higher or lower? I reckon it's lower. I'm going to say, I'm going to say two billion. Same as the Guinness. Okay. You're way off both of you. It's 550 million. Oh, 550 million. Okay. I thought it would be way more than, uh, than Guinness. Like, you know, right. So you might think this is global. I guess Ireland probably drinks a billion. I guess the thing is, is you're not just having one Guinness for the most part. You're probably having a couple. True. But also McDonald's is competing with all the other fast food chains out

there. And this is only one item on their menu. They've got stiff competition against the Whopper, for example. And that's true in Big Macs. Only one of the things. That's only one thing on a vast menu of culinary delights. It's still an awful lot of Big Macs. That's a lot of Big Macs. I thought it would be way more. What was your McDonald's, did you ever have a McDonald's birthday when you were a kid?

Of course. We had the Ronald McDonald caboose at our McDonald's. It was outside of the restaurant, they had a big clown train caboose to have parties in. This was only at one location in the city I grew up in. I don't remember it being at any of the other ones. Some of them had big indoor play areas. I remember the McDonald's close to my house had a massive indoor playground, like slide with a ball pit and all that kind of stuff.

But this other McDonald's had a clown Ronald McDonald caboose. This is so weird. I found a picture of it. You could have your birthday party in there. Yeah, it was like that. You could have a birthday party in there and part of the party was you'd have a burger, some fries or whatever. and then some of the characters would come and visit too.

So like Grimace and fucking the Hamburglar and that other thing. Looking back now, that was just some teenager forced to wear a stupid costume. Yeah, of course it was. Wasn't the real Grimace. The real Grimace is in Burgerland. He's too expensive. He can't get the real Grimace. He's got to package up all the burgers for the boys and the girls.

I got five kids to feed. Grimace is a player, man. But we have Mr. Wimpy in Bournemouth because the McDonald's was quite a while before we got a McDonald's in Bournemouth. And when I was, was, uh, it was quite a while before we got a McDonald's in Bournemouth. And when we were, when I was first there, when I was in the States, we had the Burger King. I was a Burger King fan more than McDonald's back then. Um, and, uh, it's kind of like the Sega Nintendo thing in the eighties and nineties. Yeah, I guess it was.

Burger King, McDonald's. There was some weird, dividing lines in society back then, wasn't there? Yeah, unlike today when we're all unified. Yeah, I know that sucks. It's so boring now. But so the wimpy party had Mr. Wimpy. I don't know if you want to look up a picture of Mr. Wimpy. We had a wimpy in Jersey when I first moved over. Yeah, of course.

Wimpyburg. But we'd have the party there. And of course, everyone just chases the Mr. Wimpy, whoever Paul Sol was dressed as Mr. Wimpy tries to look up his sort of skirt that he's wearing and try to tip him over and the guy just kind of runs away. Because the costume goes over the head of the wearer. So you can see the legs going up into this dark hole of the costume and everybody wants to see if they can see the person up there. So they're all trying to look up and Mr Wimpy's trying to like stop kids from peeking up at

their legs. ALICE So, Mr. Wimpy is... RILEY He's a beef eater. ALICE There you go, I've sent a little picture of him. He is frightening. His hat is kind of burger meat coloured. RILEY Looks like a cup of tea, I thought. ALICE He's got like a kind of an eyeless smiley

head with a sort of very strange wrinkly neck. RILEY Yes. ALICE And then kind of a plastic bag dress. Yeah. It's weird. You can tell by the legs and the shoes of the person in the costume that they fill that costume adequately. They look portly. Like just, you could just tell the legs and the shoes.

It's just like, yeah, I know who that is. It's, that's someone's dad under there for sure. So Wimpy for anyone that's not in the UK was just, it still is, you do still see them, I think, is a really dog shit burger chain. It was like the British version. They're gone. They're gone now, aren't they? You still see them occasionally, I'm sure.

There's apparently 58 locations in England. All right. So it is more or less. So it's still going 70 years of Wimpy. 90 years. 90 years of Wimpy. The headquarters are in Johannesburg, South Africa. Wow.

I know. There are Wimpy's in Lesotho. Geez. South Africa, UK, Kuwait, Egypt, Lesotho and the UAE. Hey guys. Founded in Bloomington, Indiana. So it's an American company. I have no idea.

I just want you to know, I know you guys are making fun of me the other week, but this week I've won 12 pounds on scratch cards, went Christmas. Lottie. How much have you lost? Um, well, they're two pounds per card. And how many did you buy? I probably bought about thirty. But you do as you go.

The draw is on the 19th. So, the thing is, you get the scratch card portion, but then you get the card on top is eligible for the big draw on the 19th. For three hundred grand. Oh, so it's a double whammy. It's a double whammy, yeah. So you basically, when they announce the winners... And part of the main draw.

Yeah, but it's always a group that wins. It's never a single ticket holder. Oh, it's a... Banks, they do, they get like a syndicate. There's like ten people and they buy like 500 tickets or whatever and they usually... It's usually one of them that wins. Do you, do you, do you, is it, um, so when you said, I just want to clarify. So when you said you'd won 12 pounds, did you mean you'd spent 60 pounds? No, I didn't spend 60 pounds straight up. I have to go to the store every day to get

stuff milk or whatever, you know? Yeah. But you've spent 60 pounds overall. Yeah. Probably about £60. You should have opened that census by saying I've lost £38, £48 on scratch notes. I don't really look at it that way because I usually just buy a ticket every day. So like, if I'm buying a bit of shopping or, you know, like getting a couple of bits and pieces, I take my daughter to school in the morning and right next to her school pretty much is a little convenience store.

I go in. Yes, I understand that. We understand the mechanics. And then I get a ticket. Because there are two pounds of tickets. We understand all of this. We understand how this works. You're describing yourself losing money.

Like, no, no, it's not like I'm losing money. No, but I think the tone. You guys are acting like I've just gone to Vegas and I've lost my life savings. No, we're not. It's just a little fun thing that I do every day I have to have some joy in my life okay like I love that this is the only possible thing you could do to cheer yourself up. It's one of one little thing. The excuse.

I tell you what when I scratch that bonus box and I see Santa I could cry I'm buying milk anyway. I'll tell you what, when I scratch that bonus box and I see Santa, I could cry. I'm so happy. When, do you know what, when you win the lottery as well, when you win the Euro billion sips, you have to pray to win. I've got to walk you through how I buy a ticket every day. We'll be laughing on the other side of our face. You guys will be so happy. Can you imagine?

All right, listen, if I win the Eurobillions, we'll finally do that trip to France we've always dreamed on. Oh, geez, thanks so much. I've also got a mortgage you could pay off and not even notice. Nah, TGV is pretty much my limit. One first-class ticket on the TGV from my good friend, period flex. That's like when my sister told my mom that if she ever won the lottery, she'd do her kitchen up for her.

I'm always like, oh my god. I tell you what, kitchens are not cheap to do nowadays. It's the last time you looked at... I, what a guy used to work with was telling me that he had his kitchen done recently and it cost like 30 grand to get your kitchen redone. I was like, you know what? I believe it. It's expensive.

Fucking Brexit and the cost of materials. Finding somebody who actually wants to do the work. Man, oh man, the list goes on and on and on. It's just crazy. All right. Here's another, here's another, uh, trivia, trivia shot for you. Uh, what is the longest that anyone has ever held their breath underwater? And I want it in minutes and seconds.

10 minutes, Guybrush 3.0, Pood, Monkey Island 1. Fuck me. Uh, you're so quick with these and you're like saying the number I want to say before I say it. And then I look like I'm just copying you every damn time. Well stop copying me. Be original. Come up with your own shit, alright?

I'm gonna say six hours. Fucking six hours this fucking way. No I'm not. This guy is wasting our time. Insults are intelligence or lack thereof. I'm going to say six minutes. Six minutes. Six minutes.

What fucking planet do you live on, man? Six, nobody's holding their breath for six. Actually it could be possible. 24 minutes. 24 minutes. 24 minutes. I was closer, I won. And 37 seconds.

Yeah, you were technically closer. 24 minutes, that's like a whole fucking episode of The Simpsons. Like, how fucking... Ages. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty crazy. That's insane.

That's crazy. Who did that? Some Croatian lad. Budimir. Those deep diver guys, they all trained to do it, right? Do I have to drink now? Longest breath. You gotta take a big gulp of whatever it is you're having tea.

24 minutes and 37 seconds is insane. That is insane. How did his face turn blue and then green and then red? Like, did he go through all the colors of the rainbows? I don't know. Like, Iber 3 foot and- I don't know how they do it. Oh.

Yeah, it's- Hang on a second. I don't know. Like, Iber 3.0. I don't know how they do it. Oh. Hang on a second. Yeah, it's training. It's that, it's the really, really deep diver people that can do it, right? Because they- Yeah, it's like free diving they call it. Yeah, yeah. They can, they train for that because apparently the pressure and everything, the deeper down

you go affects your ability. Okay, he did it with pure oxygen though. That's cheating. What do you mean? That's cheating. The longest without oxygen is 11.35. Right, okay, he did it with pure oxygen though. That's cheating. What do you mean? That's cheating. The longest without oxygen is 1135. Right, okay. That's more like it.

That's closer again. That's even closer. What do you mean he did it with pure oxygen? He did it with a hundred percent oxygen. So he was underwater already. He took a, he had a breath mask. He gave him, he breathed 100% oxygen and held that, right, in his, in his lungs. Because normally it's only 21% oxygen or whatever,

and so of course he can hold his fucking breath for like five times longer than everyone else. Because he's fucking breathing pure oxygen. Christ, I could do this for six hours. Give me the oxygen. I'll do it for six hours. Well exactly! It's like, oh I held my breath for six hours by having oxygen fucking in blood vein. You know, he would have found to hold his breath under there so long that it is possible

that he would have had to pee or poo during the time he was doing it. Speaking of pooing, and a throwback to an old comment... Have you ever been submerged in water and pooped? No. Maybe as a baby. Wayne Gretzky fact for you. Yeah, Wayne Gretzky. Before you do a Wayne Gretzky fact, can I give you a Wayne Gretzky fact? Of course. He is a mega guy now.

Really? Yeah. He's Canadian. Well, there's Canadian maga too. He's drinking the juice. Well, Wayne Gretzky and his brother hold the record for most points by a pair of brothers in NHL history. Nice.

By a pair of brothers. Yeah. So two brothers. Fuck off. I've never even heard of his brother. These fucking stats. Wayne probably accounts for most of the stats. His brother has four points. Right. And Wayne Gretzky has all the rest. Yeah, of course. He was the fastest player to get a thousand points. And he's also the second fastest player for his second thousand points. Even if he's the second fastest player. And his brother has four points. Yeah. Right. Okay.

Oh right. I see. So because he's getting carried. He's carrying the stat all the way. The pairing. That's more interesting. Okay. I like that.

That his brother has basically no points, but he's got so many that it's still a big achievement. Okay. Cool. These are drinking trivia questions, they're good. Because we were thinking about what to do for Simon Clark's quiz, well I wasn't thinking about it, Simon was, for next time. I wanted to suggest pointless.

Pointless is good. Pointless is kind of, it's pretty good, yeah. I would, I mean, here's an example of one. How many times do you think per year you blink? Oh Christ, per year? Like a year you blink? Oh, Christ. Per year? Like a trillion times. A trillion? No.

Maybe like five billion times. Okay. How many times do you blink per second? Well, it depends. Like five a minute? If you tell me something shocking, I'm not blinking for probably like a minute. So you could shave a couple off there. If you win the lottery ticket, how long, how many are you blinking?

Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh God. I wouldn't blink for probably like two or three minutes. If I'm doing a really complicated task on a computer game, I'm probably not blinking much either. I'll just tell you, it's 4.2 million times a year on average. Oh, fuck it.

You can't just sit there and work it out. You've gotta estimate. You're not allowed to start calculating shit. I would've said 1.3 million. Okay, well, it was 4.7. 4.2, so how many is that? That's like three a second. No, it's not.

It's not. No, it's like a couple of minutes. No, you don't blink three times a second unless you've got a tick. How many was it? 4 million. How many seconds in a year? There are 31 million seconds. Right. Okay.

And then you we're blinking 4.5 million times. Oh, right. So it's like, yeah, you're you're blank. I mean, also, you're not blinking when you're asleep, you know, think about once or twice a minute. Then that means, yeah, no, it's much it's more than that. Three or four times. What you you only blink every 30 seconds. I don't know. I don't count. Yeah, no, it's more than that. Three or four times. I mean, you only blink every 30 seconds.

I don't know. I don't count. Well, someone did. I haven't figured out the pattern, you know. I think it just, it's one of those things that just happens when it needs to happen, you know, keeping the old peepers lubed up. My body, my brain, they work together. They know.

They know when it needs to happen. They know when the magic needs to occur. Yeah. So, you blink every few seconds, every three or four seconds on average. ALICE They know when it needs to happen, they know when the magic needs to occur. I trust them. ALICE So Twent, so you blink every few seconds, every three or four seconds on average. Okay. Okay, that makes sense. So a thousand blinks an hour, fifteen thousand blinks an hour.

ALICE Yeah. But I guess you don't realise. Your brain cuts it out. I wonder how much you miss. Apparently blinking does cost, you miss like millions of dollars worth of movie. Do you know what I mean? That's interesting. That is funny.

If you blink during like Avatar, you miss like a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. What if you blink through Michael Douglas, the game, but you blink for two solid hours? Blinking time well spent. Yeah. Just want to avoid the whole thing. You might miss some good stuff as well in some of those films, because there was like

one frame that people always pause basic instinct on. Do you know what I mean? Oh yeah, the interview. Sharon Stone, the swivel. The cross-legged swivel. Oh, what a time. What a time to be alive, eh? What a time.

God. Wasn't it good? That was great. That was a great time. It was such a good time. Such a good time. What a time to be alive, eh? What a time. God. Wasn't it good? That was great. It was such a great time. The 80s. Such a good time. Such a good time.

Just the world felt different, you know? Fresh. Felt loose. You know, new. Wimpy. You know? I know. A McDonald's caboose.

Steven Seagal didn't have to sit behind a table in all of his action movies back then. Yeah, none of these people were cancelled. Bill Cosby, y'know. Yeah, Bill Cosby was freely raping people and... The good old days, is what you're saying. The good old days. Back in the good old days. back in the good old days. Back in the good old days.

Good old days. Yeah. I miss that good old days, you know. Me too. So does Bill. But he fucking does. Yeah. Okay. I'll miss the old. The. I can help. Oh, no, I got to wait.

Terry today, I got to take him out of his I want to take him out of his, uh, I gotta take him out of his carbonite and, uh, Terry's sleeping time. Yeah. No, he's talking about, hasn't he just got in for a week? This is, it's been a week. Is that all it takes? No, he's, I'm not waking him up. I got to weigh him.

I got to make sure he's not dying in there. Jesus. He hasn't eaten in like a month and he's he's, you know, his heart rate is down to like, you know, almost, he's almost, he's basically almost dead in there. He's just, he's surviving off of like stored fat and, uh, I don't know, piss in his bladder, basically. That's it. That's all he's got.

Would you like some loose news? I would love some. Loose news. It's loose news. Wow. Wow. Wow. There's only two things on it this week. So I think... They better be good. Yeah, they better be good.

Less is more, you know? So the first thing is, Wallace and Gromit Studio Aardman are bringing a Pokemon animation to life. 2027, the Pokemon Aardman special project. Aardman's unique style of storytelling will see the Pokémon universe in brand new adventures. This is a dream partnership for Pokémon, said Taito Okura, VP of Marketing and Media at the Pokémon Company International. Global Pokémon fans are in for a treat.

Oh my god. This seems more like a paid promotion than a fucking Looz News. Well, sure. But that's what news is! It's just adverts. I suppose. I mean, I'm quite intrigued to see what they come up with. It wasn't back in the good old days, that's for sure.

Wimpy. No. This is the other bit of Looz News, which Sam has put in. He's obviously had an off week, Sam. God bless him this week. He says, um, Amazons... You can now buy cars on Amazon for some reason, if you're insane. Um, Hyundai are allowing people in 48 US cities to sell their cars on Amazon. So you can, you can, it's mental.

You can now, Amazon autos is a thing. How do you buy, you can buy, I just think on Amazon, just buy cars on Amazon. How do you get it? You can now buy, I just take on Amazon. How do you take it? How do I receive it? How do we take it for a test drive? They fucking lazily slap it in a box. How do you get upsold? All the extra bells and whistles.

Onboard navigation computer and all that extra stuff. So wait, are you saying second hand? And yeah, you can trade in cars as well through it. Oh my god. You have to answer a series of questions about it and they'll, I think there'll be people to pick it up. Oh, so now we buy any car is going to go bust because of the fucking Amazon just coming in and it's ruining another good company.

Fuck. Have you guys ever driven... Any company that grows that big, and if Amazon just starts taking over everything, people will just get hit with the whole monopoly thing. Well, then, which is happening already. I mean, they probably should be broken up at this point. Because it's kind of silly. They should be dragged out in the backyard and shot like old yellow.

I go to a holiday in a couple of weeks and I wanted to rent a car in Spain for a week and drive around. I've never driven on the right hand side before. Have you guys done that? Yes, extensively. Not in a British car though. Yeah, only in a local car. In a local car I've done it.

But your brain switches surprisingly quickly. Just make sure you're in the middle of the road. Just make sure you're seated in the middle of the road and you're fine. The big one for me is lane drifting, because you're used to having the lines on a certain side of your car. Like when you're driving you're used to the dotted line literally being on just to your right if you're in the UK. So having to switch your brain to not drift over naturally and roundabouts and other turnings where your instinct is to turn the wrong way, essentially. You'll notice how often you're just literally following the cars in front of you anyway.

Yeah. So after a while, yeah, it's like you have to just really focus very hard on looking the correct way when you're turning onto a road, but you get used to it very quickly. I have this long running, well, it's like, like, not really a joke, but like anytime I'm driving, um, and my wife is like, how fast are you going? I always say, Oh, I'm just following the guy in front of me. It doesn't matter. Like sometimes I'll say it and there's nobody in front of me. But like every single time she's ever asked me how fast I'm driving, I always say, Oh, it doesn't matter.

I'm just following the guy. I don't know if you guys have any anything like that where you just joke. She gets mad every time too. She's like, that fucking doesn't make any sense. You can't, you know, that's not an excuse. If you get pulled over, you can't just say, I was following the guy in front of me. Like what's the guy in front of you is going like 200 miles an hour or something, you know? But still I say it.

I stand by it too. Why not? Yeah, I'm going away over Christmas. Wow. What, like Christmas day you'll be away? Yes. Oh my god. You know what, we've never done it, but there is chat of potentially doing it.

I'm always scared about the Christmas travel woes. Yeah. It's always listed as woes. Woes, yeah. It'll be a headline, Christmas travel woes strike Brit tourists as Heathrow Airport, Gatwick, backed up 27 day delays on all flights. Yeah, I wouldn't want to fly somewhere. Just like, because of the woes.

But driving somewhere I think would be fine. Because of the woes. Just to counter the woes. Yeah. Well, I'm kind of not... I'm not like... There was a big storm, obviously, lately. And we all got sent an alarm.

The nuclear warning alarm through our phones. Fuck me. Storm. That's scary. Dara. Darag. Yeah. It happened during Jingle Jam and obviously a load of people in the studio, their phones

all went off. Man, it's that emergency alert. I guess it's never been used since they did that test a couple of years ago. We had the tail end of that over here and they were anticipating it being quite bad. 75 mile an hour winds, lots of rain and just generally stormy, gale force wind weather. And they were like, if you don't need to be out, don't go out and stuff. So everything was canceled.

Like all like my kids, Saturday clubs and stuff that they go to, everything was canceled. And we were like, oh man, not again. Cause we had a bad storm last year and I thought, fuck, you know, it's going to be, garage is going to be flooded again and everything. And it was, it was, it was nothing. But one thing that did happen was we have an outside toilet, like for all the work that we've had done in our house, it was almost in the road. The wind pushed it.

Yeah. Gosh. Yeah. Wow. Your toilet nearly blew away. Nearly. It was nearly in the middle of the road. You should have taken some like preemptive dumps in there, just to lock it.

You know, see the awesome power of nature. Yeah. It just shows, it just shows how powerful it can be. And the thing is we haven't really had anyone around because everybody's winding down for Christmas. So that thing is clean as a whistle. There's no dumps or peeps or anything in there. So even if it did get knocked over, it wouldn't matter.

Wouldn't have mattered at that point. So we were pretty safe, luckily. Um, the, the flipping, um, I mean, I remember when I was a kid that we had some big storms, the great storm of 1987. Yeah, I remember that very well. Back in the good old days. The great wind. The great wind.

We had the great wind back in my day. What do you have now? I had that last night actually, after eating some sweets. But the fucking, it was, I remember, power cuts were a fairly normal thing when I was a kid. Like we had power cuts quite often living in the countryside. I used to get them, we used to get them all the time even in Bournemouth. It felt like it was a fairly regular thing. Yeah. Like, like honestly, like more often than not we'd be using the candles. No, it wasn't that common, but it was definitely more convenient in the countryside and I think that was 120 mile an hour winds and stuff.

I mean, this was relatively... Honestly, I didn't notice it was going on, right? And I guess maybe that's because I'm in a city centre flat. When I was a kid though, the power going out was never like that. It was an issue for heating and stuff like that, obviously. But say in the summer, the power went out because there was a big thunderstorm or something like that, which I remember happening quite fairly often. It was never a huge deal. I feel like nowadays it's a really big deal if the power goes out because everything everybody wants to do needs internet or some kind of power or whatever.

So it feels like it would be a lot worse now. But back then, it didn't really... Like, you lost your power for a couple of hours, you just read or go outside or whatever. It wasn't too bad, but I feel like people would probably be more affected now. But, having said that, there's far less power cuts. I can't remember the last time there was a full power cut over here at least. So I don't know. No, I mean, we were obviously worried because of Jingle Jam. We were thinking what we're

going to do if there's a power cut or if the internet goes down or something. But fortunately it was a, it all, it all blew over without any too much damage. So I think someone did die. Actually someone was hit by a tree. Their van was hit by a tree. Oh, yeah. So, you know, it's pretty serious. But I think back in 87, look, 22 people died in the UK to England. The great wind. The great wind. Yeah. Fucking hell.

What was the guy? What was that guy's name? Was it Michael Fisher? I think it was. Yes, Michael Fish. Very famously said. He said there's not going to be a storm. And then I remember because was, it was the

first month that I'd started at secondary school. I'm 100% sure we've spoken about this before, but nevermind. What, you going to secondary school? No, the storm of 87. Oh, yeah, probably. And Bournemouth was like, a lot of the trees were knocked down, there was a lot of damage, and when we went to the school after they'd reopened it, so many trees in the woods just behind the school, which was called the cops for some reason, were just knocked down.

It was like a massive playground. It was amazing. But yeah, it was like lots of really old trees got taken out by that storm. A lot of building damage. Some people died as well. It was bad. It was really bad. We had a bad ice storm in 98 in Ontario and Quebec, and that was the worst storm I remember from when I was younger. It would have been the same as your 1986-87 one, but ice instead. Yeah, 28 people died in Canada. Yeah, I think it was like parts of Montreal didn't have power for like, weeks. It was crazy.

It was freezing rain. What the fuck is an ice store? Just freezing rain. Just freezing rain. It was just that, unfortunately, not cold enough to be fully snow, so it was just like, slushy rain that then just, um, then just turned in immediately into ice. Once it, once it, uh, once it was on the ground and everything fucked up all the

power lines, cause all, all the, all the, all like the power poles were like busted and everything and all the like trees. I was crazy. I remember being off school for like two weeks. It was insane. Oh, wow. That was great. You could have played Fortnite, you know? Well, weeks. It was insane. Oh wow. That was great.

You could have played Fortnite, you know? Well, no, it was no Fortnite back then. We had to do an asynchronous, um, I think we should probably put a pin in the podcast. Thank you for listening everyone. We did record a little bit before. Yeah, I had some computer woes. But Sips' computer crashed and we lost the recording. So I'm going to let Tom have the footage from me and P-Flex anyway.

And if there is a conversation in there with Sips silent and disuseable, that might go in. Don't want to flush that gold down the toilet. I do. I do remember that he didn't say much in the opening 10 minutes. And then of course we were talking for a little bit before we noticed that he'd crashed from Discord. Yeah, that's true.

I couldn't have been talking much at all if you didn't even notice that I crashed or anything. No, it was cracking content. Craven the Hunter and Natalie Portman. Oh, Craven the Hunter. I remember both of those conversations. Yeah. Right. Well, conversations. Yeah. Right. Well, good.

Okay. Do you want to add anything that you think you might have said in response to those two conversations right now? Yeah. I would have probably said, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. If I always just, just lay that under me. Probably just take a couple of those and just put them in. Old episodes. Oh yeah. And sneak them in. See old episodes. Oh yeah. And sneak them in. See if you can just cut in some stuff.

That can be fun. Absolutely, and shit like that. Oh my god, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Hello everyone, welcome back to the Triforce Podcast. Hello. Jingle Jam is nearly at the end, as of time of recording this podcast.

Yeah. So, Pirin is here, in Bristol. I'm in uh, Jingle Jam is, is nearly at the end, uh, as of time of recording this podcast. Yeah. So, um, Pyrrhen is here in Bristol. I'm in Bristol. Hello. Have you been sleeping okay in your lovely Airbnb or? It's going all right, yeah. Um, I, uh, I've found that as I get older, my body punishes me for daring to sleep on a pillow that isn't my specific pillow. Oh yeah.

A mattress that isn't my specific mattress. And it's like, oh, this is an hour pillow. I'm going to be sore all day. And you're like, what are you talking about? It's a perfectly serviceable bed and pillow. But it's just it's becoming less and less adaptable every day. I was watching Apollo 13 last night because there was nothing else. I was watching that and they were talking about how

when it comes to re-entering the Earth's atmosphere, it would be like if you placed a basketball and a baseball 14 feet apart, the astronauts would be aiming for something no thicker than a piece of paper, right? Yeah. And when I'm sleeping, I feel like it's the same level of engineering to make sure that I don't crick my neck or woke up with a fucked back. It's ridiculous. So what I have to do now at home, we have a memory foam mattress. I have a memory foam pillow that's pretty solid. And then I also have to sleep cuddling another cushion to support my left arm because I tend to sleep on my right side. Otherwise my shoulder drops over the night and I wake up and my left arm

is like, ah. So we basically need to be encased in jello or something like that overnight would be ideal. Like, you know, when, when Han Solo was in carbonite, I'm looking at that and thinking nowadays, amazing. Just freeze me in carbonite every night. Best night's sleep. Oh, yeah. Thor me in the right position. I want to be carbonated. Put me in the carbon in the exact right position and then wake me up every morning. Perfect. Hey, talking of disasters, this Craven the Hunter movie Yeah, what what no I've never heard of it. So well, that's problem number one I think for the poor makers of of Craven the Hunter look at Craven the Hunter with a K. Okay. Okay Just look at this Craven the Hunter. So this came out

I think it came out very I think it's coming out next week, actually. Something like that. It's been trashed. Everyone's saying it's terrible. Oh yeah. Roach marchers is 14%. Some people are saying it's even worse than Madame Webb. It's meant to be garbage.

Now, first of all, I don't even fucking really know who Craven the Hunter is. Like I don't give a shit about this guy. I've never heard of Craven the Hunter. Who cares, right? Who is he? Is he a superhero? He's a Marvel hero. Wow.

A Marvel character. Really? Yeah. So he was a big enemy of Spider-Man back in the day, apparently. And as a big Spider-Man fan, I'd completely forgotten or missed Craven the Hunter. Whether they'd made this so that they wouldn't miss having access to the Marvel back catalogue, I don't know. They made this so that this is the most recent film that they've made it in that they wouldn't miss having access to the Marvel back catalogue. I don't know. They made this so that this is the most recent film that they've made it in and they're

last and they'll be like, oh, good thing we don't have that Marvel stuff anymore. Remember how badly Craven the Hunter did? Like, that's the only reason I can think that you would ever make this film. Because it looks dreadful. It's a character no one cares about. Okay, so hang on a second. So in 2024, there's a superhero who is a big game hunter. Yeah. Sorry. He hunts men. He hunts men. Oh, I see. Okay. So he's a, he's a not, he's not hunting animals. Right? Russell Crowe's the hunter. Right.

Russell Crowe plays a Russian oligarch, Nikolai. Yeah, but it looks garbage. Yeah. And he's a big game hunter. He's the big game hunter in Craven. So he is the one who's killing lions. Yeah. He was in Thor Love and Thunder. Yeah. I remember that. Well, he was in that as Zeus, I think. And it was utterly unrecognizable Russell Crowe.

He's put on a bit of timber since his heyday. Oh, yeah. I think he's enjoying the good life. Hey, I ain't flaming the guy. I'm just saying. I he's enjoying the good life. Hey, I ain't flaming the guy, I'm just saying. At first, with the costume and the makeup, I didn't recognise it. Like, I was like, I don't know who this is. And then I said to my wife, who is that? She's like, that's Russell Crowe. He was doing like this Greek accent sort of thing as Zeus. It was bizarre. It was utterly weird. The whole movie was terrible, but that

was a low light. I somehow skipped that one, yeah. Which is sad, because wasn't it, Taika Waititi was doing it? I mean, did they just go too far onto the wacky? What, for Love and Thunder? Yeah. Was it too silly? It was not funny. Okay.

It thought it was funny. Yeah. I think that Mr. Waititi is out of ideas, because I've seen all of his films he's made lately, and I have not enjoyed any of them. Next Goal Wins was a totally missed opportunity. I think Love and Thunder was dreadful. I mean, I will say again, the curse of Natalie Portman looms over any movie that she's in. Yeah. I mean, she's just box office poison Natalie Portman. You know what I mean? But if you

look at her films, so let's look at the filmography of Natalie Portman. So we have Leon the Professional, which was great. Heat, which was one of my favourite movies. V for Vendetta was good, but she's made an awful lot of crap. Mr. Magurium's Wonder Emporium. Right? That sucked. That's dreadful.

Was it a Terry Gilliam one? I mean, probably. No, that's... Oh, I don't know who this is, but no, it's not. It sounds like a Gilliam, but it's not. It does. She was in Thor and that was like the worst Thor movie up till Love and Thunder as Jane Foster. She's in Thor Dark World, which was also not great.

It was like, okay. The heyday of the insensitive bastards. I mean, that looks fucking dreadful. Jane got a gun. I haven't seen that, but I'm sure it's dreadful pride and prejudice and zombies, which I just thought was shit. She was a producer on that. Uh, annihilation was good. Actually, uh, that was good. That was good. Uh, the death and life of John F Donovan. A lot of films with, with dog shit, long titles. Stop that. Stop that. She was in Avengers end game very briefly. Stop that. Don't do dog shit long titles. Stop that. Stop that. She was in Avengers Endgame very briefly. Stop that.

Don't do this stupid long title. Stop that. What's that one that's so good though? Everything Everywhere All at Once. That's a great title and it's long and it's good. That's good. Yeah, that is good. But I mean, the Englishman who went to Wong Fu, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar.

That's a terrible name for a movie. Yeah. That's a terrible name for a movie. The Englishman who went up a hill and came down a mountain. That's a very, very, very bad name for a movie. Stop. Stop it. Stop it. Please.

Anyway. It's a movie from 1995. Yeah, it's got Wesley Snipes as a drag queen in. It's amazing that what... It's like, we did Simon Clarke's quiz the other day on Jingle Jam and these are like, I'm amazed how much people know and how much I don't know. Constantly. You know, like, I'm constantly, like, movies that are coming out this year that I've never

heard of, like this thing, I haven't even picked up the, what's it called? Craven the Hunter. Craven the Hunter. God, what a forgettable garbage name. It just sounds, doesn't sound like a superhero film either, does it? It sounds like- Also, you know what's weird is Craven as a name. Craven means fearful, like afraid. Well I always think the word Crave though is that, is a chocolate cereal. Right, that's the cereal my kids want and don't get. That's what Crave is. They're like,

can we have Crave? I'm like, well, you make them pour sugar directly into your body. Just literally get a bag of sugar and shove that down your neck, wash it down with some milk and you may as well do that. That's all that Crave is. When I was a kid, I managed to trick my parents into buying those variety packs of, where you get eight different cereals, mini boxes, because they had one box of Coco Pops in the eight and that would be the one I would go for. And then my poor family would have to eat all the rest of them. The corn flakes and the rice krispies.

But it got to the point where my parents would force me to eat horrible cereal for a few days and then I could finally get a new variety pack. So I guess it cut down my Coco Pops intake to at maximum once a week. By the way, Sips has left the Discord. Oh, in rage? He's rage quit. He's stormed out. You mentioned the Rice Krispies and Coco Pops and he was like, I'm leaving. I wonder if his internet went down or his Discord got... or he blue-screened.

Okay. Well, thank you for listening everyone. And see you next time! See you! Goodbye!