Triforce! - Triforce! Mailbag Special #10 | Kanchō, the Thousand Years of Death

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Triforce Mailbag Special 10! Sips is under fire in today's mailbag as he gets threatened by an angry Wisconson resident, we get many messages from active Jehovah's Witnesses and we learn about the ter...rifying Japanese prank: Kanchō. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:11 promotional interest rate for the first six months, the new TD Low Rate Visa Card can help find some balance. Learn more at td.com slash low rate card. Conditions apply. Limited time offer. welcome back to mailbag where we everybody's favorite and everyone loves a mailbag truck it's the mailbag truck the children run out into the road it's the mailbag wait. It's the mailbag truck. The children run out into the road. It's the mailbag. Wait, which is the one that everybody really likes? Is it the mailbag or is it the bonus one? No, people love this one.
Starting point is 00:01:54 People love the mailbag, but they hate the bonus one. Reading the mailbag, I was going over it this morning. I had some queued up for an old mailbag. I don't think we ever did, but I found some newer ones. I would say around a third of the emails I've had in the last couple of weeks have been complaints about the Rating Things episodes that we did. Not complaints, comments. No, no, literal complaints. Like ranging from what? You've piqued my interest. I want to know.
Starting point is 00:02:25 For example, this is just an example. This is from Tom. Hello, Tom here. Just finished listening to the Triforce bonus episode released this week. As such, my big up of the year goes to whoever came up with the idea, and then he leaves a big gap, of putting that behind a paywall initially to save everyone else from it. God bless Pyrrhon and Sips for staying awake the whole time.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It's got to be difficult coming up with a theme that makes three lads with such an abundance of charm and wit sound like they're trying to draw blood from a stone block oh my god tom went hard and he is not alone holy shit he went in there he did he went in there um i take it this is relating back to the favorite minecraft block episode right? It's got to be. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe let's not do another favorite Minecraft block episode. Or just an idea.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Maybe we could do one annually, you know? It would be like Festivus for the rest of us, you know? Because you have an annual favorite block in Minecraft. It might change every year, you know? You might have a new favorite. People complained that the crafting table wasn't in there. That was quite a big one. I think there was even a thread about it on the subreddit.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And I didn't think that was a block because you had to make it, right? I thought we were talking raw block. It is a block. It is definitely a block. Everything in Minecraft is a block. I don't know if you noticed. But you can't find it, right? Yeah, but you can place it in the world and step on it.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I think that's the qualifier, right? Okay. I'm just saying. I thought the whole deal was that it was the raw elements of Minecraft. But look, let's not open that can of worms again. You guys were not into that anyway. That was a bad choice by me. I thought you would be more interested.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Do you know what? It was fine. Honestly, it was fine honestly it was they got better people really liked the um that them as they that we had to we have to find our feet sometimes i actually really liked the the concept but because flax was so not into it i just sort of like hold on i just surfed on his wave you know why not whoa i'm not gonna be thrown under the bus again we have to find our feet when we the the more the the other two were much more much better once we knew what your favorite your favorite war and uh the other one was uh your favorite torture method oh yeah villains that's right yeah we didn't go that dark. No, we didn't. It got a lot better. So, anyway, I mean, this complaint is out of date already, basically.
Starting point is 00:04:51 We've solved it. We've solved it. Yeah, that one's solved. Good job, everybody. I mean, this is the podcast where we go over things we've already talked about, which is the essence of the podcast. Yeah, that is really the root of the podcast. the essence of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, that is really the root of the podcast. It's just rehashing old beefs and bringing back up old drama. It's like pulling a plow manually through a field of old beef and drama, right? Well, you know what? That's interesting because we have an email here from Dan that in fact talks about things
Starting point is 00:05:22 we've spoken about before. Now, cast your mind back. Have we ever talked about Hooters before? Yes, of course. I can't tell if you're joking or not. Multiple times, in fact. Okay, so here's Dan. Dear
Starting point is 00:05:37 Pirian Flax, in a semi-recent mailbag episode, one email you read stated that there were multiple podcast references that were not podcast references at all namely that your backdoor spy neighbor and the bath plug story had never been introduced on the podcast and that you must have introduced it while streaming this person claimed authority by stating they had listened through all the podcasts leaving you lewis and sips to discuss how confusing it all was and that you had sadly been mistaken i'm writing to tell you that this person could
Starting point is 00:06:04 not have been more wrong wow and that you have been gaslighted into believing no no no under telling this is like tennis now we cannot have this we we cannot have the same we cannot have every podcast back going back and forth saying these sorry like like the male back he sort of takes his back his episode right he's saying that be that we were misled by a different letter he's not this isn't takes his back now another thing saying he was miss we can't
Starting point is 00:06:31 have he's right for example episode 40 is literally called back door spy neighbor and you most certainly do introduce a topic for the first time sips introduced to the bath
Starting point is 00:06:40 book story in episodes 99 99.5 and a hundred the person was wrong in their assertion all right it's still an issue it's an ongoing issue that plug still if you can believe that is it yeah good lord yeah update bath plug update question it's still it's still ropey i mean it works most of the time but every once in a while it doesn't work and you gotta you gotta get a kitchen knife in there into the fucking murky water and hope for the best, and usually it turns out okay, but man,
Starting point is 00:07:10 it sucks. I just need a new bath, I think. Oh man. Yeah, maybe you just need to unblock the pipes. Yeah, flush out the pipes, yeah. Talking about flushing out the pipes, I have an email here from Zara. Right. It's nothing to do with pipe flushing. Professional pipe flusher. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I would chuck a segue in there that doesn't work and hope people didn't notice. Here's from Zara. We spoke about Jehovah's Witnesses relatively recently. Yes. All right. How they got missing. Right. So here you go.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Hey, guys. It's got to be COVID, right? It's COVID related. Would you like me to read the email? No, I like to guess, actually, and then not listen to anything and then assume I'm right based on my guess. Well, we don't know if what they're sending us is evidence anyway. Next week someone will write back saying the opposite and then we'll be back and forth over the next-
Starting point is 00:07:56 This is not the only email about Jehovah's Witnesses this week. Oh my God. Okay. Go, hit me. Hey guys, this got way longer than I meant for it to so here's a brief tldr um so i'm going to skip the tldr because it is actually quite interesting but uh i'll actually i'll give it to you just to set it up jehovah's witnesses are doing door-to-door preaching again they are forced to do it whoa and not doing it can end up with you being punished by your congregation elders
Starting point is 00:08:20 and shunned by the congregation shunned shunnedunned. Jehovah's Witnesses have come up in passing a couple of times on the podcast recently, more specifically door-to-door preaching. As an ex-Jehovah's Witness myself, I thought I'd email him with insight, which may find interesting. And so, depending on your level of interest in cults, that's their choice of terminology.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Cults. In short, they have started preaching again. They picked up last autumn after a two and a half year long hiatus thanks to covid during lockdown they mostly relied on sending letters and magazines if they have not knocked on your door yet then unless you're on a do not call list it will most likely be because they haven't reached your part of town yet jw congregations cover a particular area which is divided up into territories they have maps of these territories and their territory
Starting point is 00:09:02 maps include every single street and building as far far as I'm aware, they work their way through them in order, so they probably just haven't reached your territory yet, or they missed you out by mistake, in which case, praise be. Perrion said something about how he thought the absence of JWs was due to lack of interest in preaching. While it may be the case that people in younger generations aren't enthusiastic about as their elders, Lewis was right that they are essentially forced into it, so whether or not people enjoy it has little to do with it. I hated it when I was in, but still had to go to keep up appearances and prevent people asking questions.
Starting point is 00:09:33 If you don't go out at least semi-regularly on the ministry, JWs will brand you as spiritually weak and a bad influence, which at best will cause them to treat you differently, and at worst can have you shunned by the entire congregation so basically you have no real choice okay but can you can you live a life just as like the because it doesn't sound so bad being shunned right like it saves a lot of work and then you're just shunned like there's nothing worse than that you turn up and people don't say hey norm like when you turn up to the to mass or whatever like they just like mumble or i can live with that if it means i don't have you don't want, hey, Norm, like when you turn up to mass or whatever, like they just like mumble.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I can live with that if it means I don't have to go door to door. Yeah, but you don't want to be a Jehovah's Witness. True. So you're kind of looking at it from your perspective. That's true. If somebody doesn't want to be a Jehovah's Witness, they're in there. They're in the JW club. I mean, I've worked in offices before where people are quite happy being known as the guy
Starting point is 00:10:19 who doesn't do any work and just sits around and doesn't do any work and is never expected to do any work. And they get paid for that. They get shunned as well. Here's the situation. I'm sure some Jehovah's Witnesses go out there, first knock on the door, convert, right? Others, thousands, and everyone's slamming a door in their face. They're getting bitten by dogs. They're getting lost. They're being invited in for tea with an old lady and they're in there for hours and hours and they're getting lost they're you know being invited in for tea with an old lady and they're in there for hours and hours and they're trapped and then you know locked in the basement and then finally escape you know so i mean some jehovah's witnesses i'm sure go through
Starting point is 00:10:52 the ringer and don't convert anyone others maybe they're just naturally more charming maybe they're you know maybe they've got you know that little sales technique that works you know they maybe they're like i don't know a hot younger woman who can bring in more jehovah's witnesses i'm sure that's what they call it flirty fishing do they bring any food along with them or anything like what's is there any incentive other than you just looking for you're just looking for religion like they don't bring anything what do you mean bring what do you mean i don't know like if they turn up at your door, like, maybe they just have some cookies or something with them that you could just be like, yeah, you know what, actually
Starting point is 00:11:30 these are really good cookies, I might think about it. If you're just turning up to the door with nothing, I'm not thinking about it, even. If old ladies went around door to door selling cakes, I'd buy a cake off an old church lady for the steeple. So, I think, I think- Do you mean a handmaid? First of all, they're not looking for money. Second of all, I don't think it matters to them, essentially, if they convert you or not.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Their mission is to spread the word, and then it's up to you. Can they spread the word while they're doing some chores for you? Like, if they turn up, and you're like, can you help me with some garden work or whatever? Like mowing the lawn. Yeah, you could be like, this bath plug is fucking killing me. Can you get that soil out? Carry on with your prattling. Do you have any skills like in this field?
Starting point is 00:12:12 I see what you're saying. So what you're saying is if they actually provided a sort of service as well. Or just a friendly helping hand, you know? Yeah. I feel like the church is sort of like the whole image that they're looking for is like the friendly helping hand, you know? I feel like the church is sort of like, the whole image that they're looking for is like the friendly helping hand. So like, if these guys are turning up door to door,
Starting point is 00:12:30 a friendly helping hand, please. Do you not think that perhaps the Boy Scouts and the Girl Guides have usurped that? Because there was like, what do they call it? Bob a job was a thing they used to do. Listen, I can't remember the last time. I don't think this ever happened in the house that we live in now, where we've had door-to-door Girl Scout or Boy Scout cookie sales. We've never had a bottle drive. They never sell apples in the fall door-to-door. None of this stuff. I remember doing all of this stuff when I was a kid. I remember doing the apple drive. I remember doing the bottle drive doing i remember helping people cross the road to
Starting point is 00:13:05 get my badge for helping people cross there's a whole badge for just helping people across the road i saw a map actually that showed like how three generations of um kids had grown up in the same house and they they showed like the areas that they umered to, right? Or played in, right? Or were allowed to play in. And the grandparents were like three miles out playing in a river. You know, the parents were like a mile out, you know, in town going to the cinema or doing it on their own. And the kids were like the end of their road. Do you know what I mean? That was like where they were allowed. Yeah, not even inside playing Minecraft.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah. That was like... Because it's a different it's it's really like the world has shrunk a bit in that sense we're so scared of the world my kids don't play out they play out in the backyard but no further it's probably it's probably rightly so i mean probably probably a lot less kids are being abducted i don't know who's out there yeah that's the thing god jesus but um man i'm joining in in the fear. I don't know. I feel like, is it actually scarier out there than it was?
Starting point is 00:14:09 But I think certainly you would be- I mean, these days, if you were a parent and you let your kid play three miles away in a river- You don't think about it much until you actually have kids, and then you think about it all the time. And you think about the future as well because i'm like yeah my kids are small now i'm happy for them to play in the backyard as long as i can see them or whatever i don't really want them wandering off but as they get older and they do start going to like the cinema and town and they start to go out drinking and they have to find
Starting point is 00:14:40 their way home at two in the morning after they've been drinking and stuff you have to worry about all of this stuff all the time forever you do have to worry because way home at two in the morning after they've been drinking and stuff. You have to worry about all of this stuff all the time. Forever. You do have to worry. Because there are some real fucking assholes out there. Are you going to stop them? You can't stop them, no. But you can still worry about them all the damn time.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Of course. I'm sure our parents worry. And it's not just you, right? It's other fucking people out there, like backdoor parenting you, saying, oh, you shouldn't do that. Well, sure, that's fine. I can ignore them quite happily. Yeah, I don't give a shit about those assholes. happily but at the same time there's just some real cunts out there that you have to your kids have got to stay away from them even when they become adults kids are the cunts though and you don't realize i don't know if it's more dangerous these days well i hope that's not
Starting point is 00:15:18 the case but uh still you know i don't know if it is more dangerous these days i don't know yeah i don't know you know if you're out there listening to this mailbag and you work in some kind of uh child protection thing or you work in the police and you deal with this kind of stuff let us know let us know is it more dangerous i look back to my childhood though and we wandered off miles man we were playing in creeks we were like on the other side of the town on our bikes we didn't even have helmets on our bikes we used to ride our bikes down the middle of the road with no hands and no helmet and stuff we were idiots i don't know how i'm alive right now because my parents would just be like in the
Starting point is 00:15:55 morning they would unlock the front door and i would be out and then i would come back when the street lights came on like it was insane i don. Yeah, I was at random other people's houses. I did, me too. Multiple- Holy crap, we were just drinks away. Sleeping in people's houses all the time. Did any of us grow up in a really rough area? No. I grew up in a middle class suburb, so.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Right. Me too. So I think, other than when I lived in New York, where I was too young to go out by myself, it was Bournemouth. I mean, it's like all three of us grew up in a very safe area. And I think most of the country, most of pretty much most countries are going to be like that. I mean, if I was living in central London, no, my kids aren't allowed out on their own at 11. And I doubt most parents do let their little kids out. When you go into central London, you don't see little kids on their own no of course not no so i think it's it's easy to say
Starting point is 00:16:49 maybe back in the day we all grew up in very safe like in the oliver twist days you did probably though yeah because yeah well you saw him popping out of fucking chimneys or christ yeah that's it we were back when it was dark but and we were often playing inside anyway, at someone's house. You know, it wasn't like we were, you know, the lost boys or fucking, I don't know, stranger things going into the upside down. Yeah. We went in the upside down in Ark,
Starting point is 00:17:18 but it was still playing D&D. Don't know what's happening in the upside down these days. It's gone, oh, topsy-turvy, isn't it? This is from Ashley. This is another JW, which is Jehovah's Witness, JW. Just to further, you were correct in assuming the COVID pandemic brought an end to this. XJW, blah, blah, blah. This is the interesting bit.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Another interesting impact of COVID was that it changed their view of the internet. When I was growing up, the internet was an evil thing full of lies against the word of the true God, Jehovah. That's their words. Right. The pandemic caused a huge shift with all the church meetings being held on zoom or skype all the magazines were digital and people generally being encouraged to connect with the rest of the congregation through the internet right as the pandemic restrictions were ended things have started going back to normal however they now live stream services to people who can't
Starting point is 00:18:00 attend because of ill health and everything so they went from the internet is wicked to shit. We've got no choice. The internet is wonderful. Uh, just because it goes. So I thought that was quite interesting. A change. Well,
Starting point is 00:18:11 good for them. I'm glad that they've accepted the internet. Finally. That's, that's great. I've got a crack an email here. What about the deep sea monster? No,
Starting point is 00:18:20 this is not about a deep sea monster. He's got an email from the crack. And period. I get it. What a dad. I'm writing to you from the deep. This is the sleeping great one. Destroyer of worlds and dreams.
Starting point is 00:18:33 God of the sea. I email you to talk about the recent Minecraft block episode. From my lair in the Mariana Trench. Look out. Do not sail your boat today. You do not want to be out there! I got together with Poseidon, we listened to it as usual. We were horrified that the crafting table was not included. Sorry, Kraken and Poseidon, we'll walk out. Get on carry on then.
Starting point is 00:19:00 This guy, the email says, G'day g gents please don't name me due to security okay uh you seem to like cool jobs i am a crew commander for satellite-based missile warning holy shit that is a cool fucking job yeah we're the first to know but that job is so cool that you can't even really tell anyone that you do it though that's the coolest kind of job you can feel very cool i don't know but you still i know you feel cool but it is still kind of cool to just sort of uh icebreaker at a dinner party what do you do oh well uh actually i'm a satellite guided missile defense system operator ah you know what i mean like well no but but i can't know but maybe you just say i can't tell you for security reasons you know that's still a cool thing to say i think you just say people might assume that you're some sort of like uh ex-con or like uh you know maybe uh maybe like
Starting point is 00:19:51 a uh pedophile or something as well right exactly well if you know if you're a nonce you got to tell them haven't you that's the thing you don't have to though i don't think right and uh and i i'm pretty sure uh i could be wrong about this but in some places, even the registry is like you could you could eventually like come off of the register, which is insane to me. But there you go. Well, it reminds me of that Mr. Show sketch where this guy, Larry Kleist, is a rapist and he has court ordered. He has the guy walk around with him all the time. Rapist, rapist coming through. And he works in tellyales for an insurance company.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And he starts to go, hi, I'm Larry Kleist, I'm a rapist. Just wondered if you were interested in any insurance. It's a great sketch. Oh, that is good. Yeah. Holy shit. So Jake says, we're the first to know of an impending nuclear apocalypse. We also watch a lot of Netflix and draw dicks on the mission console.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So there you go. That's it. Anyway, I want to thank Sips for his inspiring stories of having three kids. I have two kids and I'm very excited to welcome my vasectomy to the family tomorrow. Good. Don't do it. I mean, it's kind of fun, but like, holy crap, it's a lot of work too. Three.
Starting point is 00:21:03 They say three is company. And, you know, I think that was more the case when it was John Ritter and those two girls he was living with or whatever. But like, if you imagine John Ritter as a three-year-old child and the two girls he's living with as like a five-year-old child and then a seven-year-old child, and then you have to look after them all day, it is too much company, I think. No? There is such a thing.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I don't know what you're talking about. All right. Who's John Ritter? You've never seen Three's Company? No, dude. All right. Sorry, I think that's an American thing. So American audience, well done.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I'm sure they got that. Sorry about that. I don't know who that was. No, no, we have an international audience. If you look up John Ritter, you'll know who he is. He was the dad. I do recognize him. This is a safe space for old
Starting point is 00:21:45 references he was 10 things uh you can't do to my daughter whatever that one was called jesus golden rules about uh being with my eight simple rules simple rules that's the one okay he was that way you made it really dirty whatever rules for dating my daughter whatever like yeah something like that that didn did sound way worse. Well, I've never even watched the show. Okay. I just thought maybe you would know who he was from that. No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I didn't. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. No. All right. This is a good one. This is from D. Tyrion, thought you might find this a cool story to share.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Feel free to share it on the podcast. I used to work in the intelligence community in an office with no windows in a faraway suburb. When I had to travel for work, I used to scan the hotel room for bugs, just a force of habit. I put on Dota so the eavesdroppers had something to listen to while I searched. This time, I put on the Dota TDD playlist.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I don't know what the TDD is. Team Double Dragon. Right, right, right. Okay, sorry, the scrub test. It's our company. My bad right, right. Sorry, the scrub test. It's our... My bad. My bad. Long story short... Long story short...
Starting point is 00:22:54 Well done. I found a bug. He found a bug when in a country on the eastern side of the world. My office called a few minutes after I found it and told me what they heard from their own devices from who planted the bug. They wanted to know, who's Dav? Is he a new contact? Who is this guy screaming
Starting point is 00:23:10 at Dav? Is Dav in trouble? I had to explain it was the video I had on in the background. Suffice it to say, it endeared me to the tech team, who plays some Dota. The response team's not so much, as they were gearing up to save this guy called Dav. Sorry, what? Oh, guy called Dav. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Oh, that's hilarious. Sorry, this is unbelievable. I know. I know. There's a spy being bugged in a hotel room. They were rushing to save Dav, who is fine. Dav was having some trouble. He was struggling in mid. He was about to get ganked, so they had to...
Starting point is 00:23:43 Mid just shouted, Dav! Dav! They're like, we got a response team now, this guy Gav's in trouble. Oh, shit. I'm not sure I believe that one. That just sounds too much out of us. It sounds too good, right? Too much Ian Fleming. It's hilarious though, it is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:24:00 This one is just entitled Triforce, Michael Buble's Macbeth. The text reads, Buble, Buble, toil and trueble. That's all it says. Don't laugh at that. Well done, Harry. Oh, fucking hell. All right. Well done, Harry.
Starting point is 00:24:19 A good one. All right, do you want to hear this one? This is from Joseph. Angry Wisconsin Triforce listener. Right. Good afternoon. Let me first say that I was very impressed by yours and Lewis's trivia knowledge of the Yolks channel stream this year.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Well, thank you. I am 28 years old and have lived in many places for work and school, including Toronto, Bristol, Dublin, and now Wisconsin for six years. Wow. I personally think Wisconsin has been the most fun of them all. Wow. My city of Madison, the capital of Wisconsin, consistently ranks towards the top best places to live in the US.
Starting point is 00:24:51 There is always something to do here. I understand that it doesn't have the beautiful seascape views from a bad garage window that Jersey offers, but it's very enjoyable in its own right. What makes a place boring to live in for you guys? But mostly sips, as he was talking the most shit. And then, also sea attached. It's kind of boring to live in for you guys uh but mostly sips as he was talking the most shit and then i mean i think everywhere is kind of boring to live well before you answer this might change your your mind about about responding what kind of tone you want to bring to the response right
Starting point is 00:25:15 this is a screenshot from their partner who was equally angered by sips's comments right it's a picture of a series of filing cabinets kindly tell s tell Sips I'm going to shove my Wisconsin filing cabinet up his ass. Jesus. Holy crap. Why are you guys so defensive about Wisconsin? I'm just going by what I've heard other people say about Wisconsin. But I guess you guys really like Wisconsin. Well, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I did not mean to offend. I don't think anywhere is that great to live. It depends what you do, right? Like in those places. Like I have access to beaches. I never go. I have access to like tons of like fresh seafood restaurants. I never go.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Like it's what you make of the place, right? And like the people that are in it and stuff. Like, I don't think anywhere by default is like that fun to live in. I don't know how bad- It's how you make it. Were you shitting on Wisconsin or was I? Is this like a Canadian thing that you- because it was over the border from you from- No, no, no. It wasn't anything like specific. Who was shitting on Wisconsin? I mean, well, this email is directed at Sip.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah, it must have been me. I probably was shitting on Wisconsin, but I mean, I've never even been, so I don't know. I mean, maybe it's awesome. I thought it was, I just thought it was like, I think I thought it was in a different place. I thought it was like more on the north, on the, I guess it is on the Canadian border, but I guess it's like not a land border, has it? It's like one of these lake states. I thought it just got very cold border, but I guess it's not a land border, has it? It's one of these lake states. I thought it just got very cold.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It was very homely. I thought it was very Fargo, but I guess it maybe isn't. Yeah, I think it is, all those things. But I don't know. I guess it's awesome at the same time. So you're not doubling down on your loathing of Wisconsin. No, I mean, I'm not that invested, honestly. It was just a
Starting point is 00:27:07 throwaway comment, right? It's probably an interesting, nice place, like everywhere, with millions of people living there, so I guess it's got a variety. It's known for dairy. It's the dairy staple of cheese there. It's where that 70s show takes place
Starting point is 00:27:23 in Wisconsin. Is it? America's heartland. And it's also It's where that 70s show takes place in Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah. Is it? Yeah. America's heartland. And it's also the state that Making a Murderer takes place in as well. Oh. As, in fact, we mentioned when we talked about Wisconsin the first time.
Starting point is 00:27:38 So there is some Fargoness to the place. I'd like to go. I think we should go. Because Making a Murder murder was kind of like like it like a like a fargo thing as well wasn't it yeah where they spoke and everything was very similar oh yeah i'm gonna kill you oh yeah i was a little bit like that buddy huh oh listen i'm sorry for shitting on wisconsin i didn't think anybody would take it so bad it's one of these places so bad to threaten to shove a filing cabinet up somebody's a big one you didn't think anybody would take it so bad. I think it's one of these places- Especially so bad to threaten to shove a filing cabinet up somebody's ass.
Starting point is 00:28:06 A big one. You didn't see the picture. In retaliation as well. Yeah. I'll mind my manners. I'll mind my mouth next time, okay? I won't shit on places that I've never been to and have no intention of ever going to either. Fair, fair, fair, fair.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I think it feels to me like it's one of those states that people would forget about when they were trying to name all 50 of the states. You know what I mean? I could be wrong. Wisconsin. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, along with like Nebraska and Connecticut, you know, and stuff like that, people like forget that they exist. I feel like people forget about Connecticut quite often, right?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Maybe Ohio as well. Although maybe, well, yeah, maybe it is Ohio that people forget about. I don't, people maybe don't forget about Idaho as much because of the potatoes. But what's Ohio known for? And what's, I guess Wisconsin's known for cheese. So maybe people will remember Wisconsin for the cheese. Just for the cheese. You got to have something. What about Pennsylvania?
Starting point is 00:29:04 What are they known for? Yeah. Just for the cheese. You gotta have something. What about Pennsylvania? What are they known for? Pencils? They just make pencils. Just love pencils. That's an underrated joke of the podcast. Sorry. Alright, here's one. This is from Jack.
Starting point is 00:29:25 This may count as a warning to other listeners, so be ready. Was just catching up with a mailbag from a couple of weeks ago. Heard about the guy in a car accident while listening to Triforce. Me and my girlfriend were also in the middle of a three-car pileup. Not our fault. The driver responsible plowed into the back of him because he was texting. Jesus. And they were listening to Triforce at the time as well.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Got me wondering, how many road accidents have occurred while triforce is being played within the car think the podcast is potentially bad luck for drivers it could be yeah but i mean the thing is there's so many uh car accidents there's good there's usually something on right the radio or nowadays more so probably streaming some type of like podcast or or whatever yeah but is that more or less distracting the music you know i certainly could imagine our our chat getting people riled up and angry you know like what the wisconsin guy's mailbags the the wisconsin guy rage blackout on the road. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah, people, you can imagine the rage building up. No, I don't know whether any of it, it must happen. It's just a matter of numbers, right? Yeah. Like, it's a car accident. I wonder how, I always wonder how, sometimes you see these places, you know, filled, like graveyards filled with cars that have been involved in, you know, write-offs there's just as far as the eye can see oh that's it well there's so many cars on the road so i think just like uh on average that's just where the most accidents
Starting point is 00:30:55 take place right like it's you know they say like uh like flying is the safest way to travel because there's so there's like you know like, thousands of flights a day, but like how many people hop into a car and drive every day? Like, fucking billions, right? So, there is just going to be a lot of accidents, right? There's just more people doing it. That's true. Yeah. Please be careful. Drive carefully. Yeah, please drive carefully. And listen to the podcast carefully as well.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah. While you're driving. I realize, you know, we chuck out some pretty funny jokes and jakes here. I know, yeah. We don't want to cause any problems, you know. This is from Jay. Now, this guy recently quit his job, wants to remain anonymous. So I am going to remove the name of the shop that he's talking about, because I think it
Starting point is 00:31:42 could potentially be libelous otherwise. Right, Jay from Tesco, or whatever. Well, no, it's not- Don't say Tesco. No, it's not Tesco. I'm not gonna say what shop it is. Right. They worked for this shop-
Starting point is 00:31:53 A retail, it's a retail establishment. It's a retail outlet, yes. They sell things. Sure. I worked for this shop for around five years since I was a teenager, and these are some of the things I frequently witnessed. The staff are paid extra to work for brands, but won't tell the customers. If a guy is really pushing a Samsung or Philips TV, which are both shit, by the way,
Starting point is 00:32:11 chances are he's an employee getting an hourly boost for selling those brands. Even if they're wearing a t-shirt with the brand of the store on it, they'll often say, no, I've just done training with them or I'm the in-store expert. But most of the time they just wear a plain uniform. Multiple times a day, a customer will ask for a product that has a 100 to 200 pound barcode on it. If a colleague sees this and the customer doesn't, the colleague will always use that money to their advantage and tag on free stuff to the sale to get closer to their KPIs. When you're saying to yourself, wow, three free gold cables and a wall install, my friend, you have paid inIs. When you're saying to yourself, wow, three free gold cables and a wall install, my friend, you have paid in full. They also use discounts to give you a first
Starting point is 00:32:50 month or trial of the care plan, which literally covers nothing and is a direct devil that often runs for years without people noticing. Funnily enough, this shop is FDA regulated, meaning this type of activity is illegal. But when a mystery shopper comes in, they ask such blatantly obvious questions as, can you print me out a quote for the care plan? And since no one asked this, it's essentially impossible to get caught mis-selling. Managers encourage this, there's a warranty that covers nothing, the original one doesn't cover, is extremely profitable and good for their bonuses. The delivery and installation guys have a target to be in and out of your house in 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:33:20 If you have something delivered and they convince you the bracket won't fit or there's an issue with installation, it's either because they can't be asked or they're behind target and have to rush anyway. And lastly, sadly, the staff no longer have any knowledge. Instead of being an expert on one section, the hiring scheme changed in favor of simple and compliant people. For staff to work all over the store, they have shitty little iPads they can read off. There are knowledgeable brand reps that work in the stores, but sadly they're being pushed out in favor of sponsored staff because it makes more money for them. If you do actually need help, do not go and talk to someone who
Starting point is 00:33:48 doesn't want to speak to you and knows nothing about the issues you're having. I know this isn't relevant to any episode specifically, but I thought it was interesting. You need to get it off my chest. It is interesting. To me, this sounds like a conspiracy, but also just feeds into my paranoia about
Starting point is 00:34:03 everyone, about corporate greed and everyone trying to take advantage of you and like ah but you can see how it's the case right like so these days everything you buy a tv people who's buying a tv in a store like i don't know like i'm ordering that shit online usually and yeah like like or if i buy in a store, like, I don't know, like, I'm ordering that shit online usually, and like, or if I buy it in a store, I'll be looking it up online to see how much it is online, and see if the prices, like, match, you know. Well, I think a lot of people still do go in, older people, I'd suggest. People my age and older will go into a shop, because they kind of want to see it, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah, and if you want something right now, that's true. If you go to Costco, they've got tellies fucking everywhere. There's like hundreds of tellies. They're enormous. And if you're a lucky person who can write off VAT,
Starting point is 00:34:56 I guess you could probably claim the VAT back on it. But yeah, there's loads of places that sell TVs and apparently people are buying them. Oh. We talked about Coca-Cola and Pepsi a while back. This is from Amy. Currently listening to the Mailbag episode 9, wanted to comment on the Pepsi catalogue of
Starting point is 00:35:11 products. I work for a Coca-Cola bottler in Florida and thought you might find a few rules that they want us to follow interesting and funny. They're very intense about not supporting Pepsi or their line of products. For example, you're supposed to avoid restaurants that serve Pepsi. If you happen to find yourself at a restaurant that serves Pepsi, they'd rather you order a water or iced tea. Never walk into the office holding a Starbucks drink
Starting point is 00:35:34 or a Gatorade sports drink. But it goes beyond drinks. It's also snacks, foods. Frito-Lay is owned by Pepsi. So don't even think about having a bag of Doritos on your desk. I recently made this mistake with Sabra hummus for lunch so even after three years i'm still learning oh and the super bowl is owned by pepsi so we refer to it as the big game there's more madness but i think you get the gist i will say it's a pretty interesting and fun place to work even with the eccentricities also glad to hear you guys are coke fans over pepsi fans yeah i don't know it's like it's like it's like just from being a kid i think it's just i we just had coke in our house more than we had pepsi and i'm sure that's the same for a lot of different products right it's that
Starting point is 00:36:17 brand association from when you're young like some people will only use fairy liquid um you know i'm a fairy liquid main but mrs f has has been buying this stuff. It's called like, it's some kind of a more environmentally friendly washing liquid. Is it called Method? Is Method and Ecovair is another one we use. So yeah, we use those ones. I don't know if they're actually better, but you know, I don't know either way.. Yeah. I've tried to use those. Amy also has a question. I have a question for you guys.
Starting point is 00:36:47 All right. Because Florida is Florida, and the politics of the US are becoming too much, I'm strongly considering a move to Canada. Okay. I wanted to find out, she says, if anyone has an opinion, but I'm assuming Sibs, on Calgary, Alberta, or any tips on Canada living at all, I already know living above sea level and the winter will probably kill me, but no more than the heat inida already does any advice i think uh i mean okay don't uh take this with a pinch of salt i have not lived in canada for like over 20 years uh what i from what i hear
Starting point is 00:37:15 alberta is uh is is is is kind of like the like the like the texas of canada right like it's it is just a bit breadneck well that and and and just some of the some of the politics and stuff as well tend to lean heavily to to the right but i think bc is is pretty good which is just like one province over and uh and the east is i think all right but again i haven't lived there for so long so i don't know i've never i've never i have i've never like lived in canada as a working mortgage having responsible adult like uh when i left when i was 23 and uh i just finished school and i didn't even have a job or anything so you know what i mean it's like i can i can i can kind of say which which parts i i've lived in that I haven't minded or whatever,
Starting point is 00:38:05 and I've been to and what I've heard, but I don't have the solution, really. I think my tip is fucking just go there on holiday. See if you like it. Stay there for a month. And if you fucking can't stand it because it is freezing cold or, you know. Yeah, go there in winter. Go there in winter go there in winter just just see what it's like like you you get a good feel for the place by living there they call them
Starting point is 00:38:31 they call them shinook moving around there you know because i think that as as much as florida is i know it's fucking florida as much as it's florida you do know it I spent a lot of time in Florida and I would get the fuck out oh okay we got three different angles there yeah get the fuck out of Florida this is a terrific email that I've just received
Starting point is 00:38:58 this is for sips basically I'm guessing it's terrific because somebody is going to call me out on something oh yeah okay great it's very funny uh hyde pierian and lewis he no hyde pierian and lewis oh gosh it was great to hear you talk so positively about bristol zoo and wild place at the end of triforce episode 225 i work there it's fantastic a few years ago i was manning the door selling tickets when that large canadian bloke you work with wandered up to my window.
Starting point is 00:39:26 My manager was next to me, so I didn't mention the negligible size of my penis, but I did say hi and identified myself as a fan and Twitch sub. As part of the transaction, I asked if he'd like to pay 10% additional as gift aid. Not only does this money go directly to supporting various charities, but it's also what my monthly bonus is based on. I didn't know that! This was refused because of tax reasons. I've now cancelled my Twitch sub. This is a two-way street, bozo. Oh, fine.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Okay, first of all, if anyone asks me to pay 10% extra for some wrong shit, I'm not paying that. It's a scam and if it's if your bonus is linked into it I would I would really question is that a great place to work that sounds like shit to me but whatever you just have to give your address it's tax relief when you give to a charity it's nothing to do with paying extra
Starting point is 00:40:21 for gift aid what is this tax shit there's no way that i went up to somebody in real life and said i'm not paying that for tax reasons i've never i've never ever done that i'm sure i never have direct direct quote it's literally i think you might have said that as a joke oh maybe i didn't i just love the way he says this is a two-way street hey listen well i didn't know that it was uh that you were, like, on a commission for it. If I'd known, I might have considered it. But, fuck, I hate that shit.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I hate the, when they ask you for extra, like, at the point of sale, right? I remember when you came to Bristol Zoo when your son was pretty young and you spent like two or three hours there, but it was entirely on the toy in front of the zoo. Yes. So that was like a rideable dog or whatever. That's such a two-year-old thing to do. Yeah, it is. Yeah, we went to the zoo.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I had a great time. I rode a ride for two hours. Yeah, we paid full admission and we didn't step foot in it because we were playing with the Thomas the Tank Engine toy up front the whole time. Those things honestly must be just a goldmine if you put them in the right place because kids always want to ride them. I don't know why. Yeah. I feel like I've been called out a lot on the old podcast today. First the Wisconsin guy.
Starting point is 00:41:42 No, which was the other one? Oh, well, I mean, what can I do? You know, you throw these opinions out there. I'm chucking them out. I'm chucking them out left, right, and center. He hates charity. He hates Wisconsin. What next? He hates the Jehovah Witnesses. He wishes they would bring cookies by. Oh, man. Just a hateful guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah, I'm just full of hatred. This is a good one. This is from Ben. Hey, guys. I had a funny little story I thought you might enjoy. I was catching up on the CSGO Jingle Jam stream, which is me and Spiff did that, and my two year old was napping on my chest. After a while, she woke up and said, oh, I see you egg. A certain Triforce member was on the screen at the time, but in disbelief, I looked around for an egg or egg shaped object in the room.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I tried pointing at Pirion's head and asking if that the egg she ran but she ran off to find her mum a minute later she had dragged my wife into the room pointed at period on the screen and said i want egg nice that's nice that's nice that is that is quite she's gonna grow up to be a sassy one she's gonna be a subscriber in no time with that oh my god i want egg this is from ben this is this is something else okay right uh hey guys i live in japan but hate anime that's in brackets of course as an english teacher i thought i would share an experience from one of my first days as a teacher in a primary school i taught a class and was moving to from one classroom to the next i experience from one of my first days as a teacher in a primary school. I taught a class and was moving from one classroom to the next. I noticed that one of the students was following me.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I thought nothing of it. It's quite common to get swarmed by the students as they're excited to see a foreigner in their school. I noticed, however, this kid had been waiting for me to move past his classroom at the end of each of my classes. He also followed me around at lunchtime. It was only until cleaning time, which is a period after lunch where the students and the teacher clean the school, I think that's great, that I found out his true intentions. As I was sweeping the wooden floor in one of the classrooms, I felt what I can only be described as a sudden penetrating force that hit my ass crack so hard I thought my pants had broken. I turned around to see this kid laughing as he just
Starting point is 00:43:43 shoved his index and middle finger up my bum. I smashed my broom I had in my hand on the floor Gandalf style and shouted, no! The kid fell down on the ground and cried. The homeroom teacher stepped in and pulled me aside to say the kid meant no harm and shoving his fingers up my ass was all part of a game in Japan that they play called Kancho. I now work in a high school, but for the first four years of being in Japan, I had to be on Kancho alert daily. What the hell? Kancho.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Can anyone look that up? This is true. Yeah, I've seen this before. It's always accompanied by like a sort of the specific sort of sound when you sort of see it. What is it? Like a wedgie. It's like the equivalent of like you're giving somebody a wedgie, it's very much like a wedgie yeah but it's it's it's almost like a wet willy or something i guess except it's like you poke you poke them in the
Starting point is 00:44:35 ass i don't think it's supposed to go poke them up the ass yeah like right up the butt like right i think it's yeah but like fully clothed so it's kind of like this So if somebody does that to you, you get home and you might have like, just like a tiny bit of shit like, on your underpants because they've gone into your ass. Well I don't know how- Here is the wiki article on Kancho. Kancho is a prank performed by clasping the hands together in the shape of an imaginary gun. So imagine if you put your palms together and then get those other fingers back so you just got those- Then you poke an unsuspecting victim's anus while exclaiming, Kancho! It is a common prank among children in East Asian countries such as Japan. In Korea, it's called
Starting point is 00:45:17 Dong Chim. In China, it's properly called, I'm going to mispronounce this, Qianyan Sha, which was derived from the jutsu technique in the manga and anime series, Naruto, in which it is known as Senen-Goroshi, meaning 1000 years of death. The word Kancho is a slang- 1000 years of death. You say that as you poke someone in the ass. 1000 years of death. That's great.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Jesus Christ. The word Kancho is a slang adoption of the Japanese word for enema, Kancho. In accordance with widespread practice, the word is generally written in katakana
Starting point is 00:45:51 when used in its slang and in kanji when used for enemas in the medical sense. In English-speaking countries, the term goosing generally refers to a comparatively mild
Starting point is 00:45:59 grabbing of the buttocks with the tips of the fingers in the imitation of a harmless bite on the butt from a goose. But Kancho takes it to another level, I'm going to say. Holy shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:08 What next? It's not supposed to be super violent. It's supposed to be like, I think it's seen as like fairly, I guess it is like a wedgie, right? It's like a kind of, you could imagine it being like a bullying thing, but also being like infiltrated society in a semi-harmless way can you have can you have degrees of cancho like i have no idea could you have a nuclear cancho like you can a uh a wedgie so that you basically like uh i guess
Starting point is 00:46:39 we're fisting somebody in the anus it's definitely not okay we should stop this cancho should be should be shut down. You want to shut it down? I bet you there's going to be a fervent group of like hardcore Kancho lovers who are obsessed with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And it's a fetish and they're going to be like on the right, you know, the alt-right Kancho fans. You can't stop me doing Kancho. You know, all these woke modern millennials coming in saying
Starting point is 00:47:03 I can't figure someone's butthole i've been figuring people's buttholes for years it's part of my culture yeah there's a lot of this weird stuff in japan though you've been uh sips yeah i never had that done to me to be to be honest but but you've seen loads of weird shit I have seen some weird shit in Japan so that just fits in with all the other weird shit just fine I'm going to skip this one from Clark
Starting point is 00:47:32 because he's just having a go at Sips having a go at Wisconsin again oh go on I want to hear this come on please you read these words and then we all go quiet and it's like stressful I want to take it in. I want to see. I kind of enjoy the Wisconsin defense force.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's nice. I'm sending you boys season's greetings up from the cheesehead state of Wisconsin. He said read it in a Midwest accent, but I don't really know what that sounds like. It's like a Fargo one, I think. Oh, I'm sending you boys season's greetings from the cheesehead state of Wisconsin. That's a bit more Canadian, I think. Yeah. Which is a state,
Starting point is 00:48:06 according to Sips, in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. Apparently, permanently stuck in the 70s, which is rich, coming from a Canadian who now lives in Jersey. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:48:15 My God, why do you guys get so offended by this? Listen. I'll take, you can insult Canada and Jersey all day. Yeah, you're not going
Starting point is 00:48:23 to email them, are you? No. Sure. Okay, anyway. Anyway, that's it. The rest of the email just peels day. Yeah, you're not going to email them, are you? No. Okay, anyway. That's it. The rest of the email just peers out. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:29 That's why I was going to skip it. Oh, okay. I'm glad we got that. I'm glad we got that off our chest. He was just correcting our pronunciation of Manitowoc, apparently. We say it wrong. So, I mean. Manitowoc.
Starting point is 00:48:39 What is it? Manitowoc? Manitowoc. Manitowoc. Oh. Manitowoc. Manitowoc. How do you pronounce it? Manitowoc. Manitoba. Manitowoc. Oh. Manitowoc. Manitowoc. How do you pronounce it? Manitowoc.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Manitowoc. Yeah. What? This is from Rob. I thought I'd give some otherwise useless insight about working outdoors. I work in construction, and I can tell you, working in the heat is far worse than working in the cold. On many worksites, there's no escape in the heat. At one of my previous jobs, bear in mind, this lad's in Australia. I should just mention that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:04 At one of my previous jobs, sometimes you'd, this lad's in Australia. I should just mention that. Yeah, yeah. At one of my previous jobs, sometimes you'd get sent to a site that is literally bare. No trees, no buildings, no shade. And if you're particularly unlucky, one giant foundation slab of concrete just reflecting all that heat back up at you. When it's cold, it's not so bad. You rug up. Oh, I like that phrase. Rug up.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And as you get into it, it's quite refreshing once you begin to get warmed up. There's nothing nicer than a cool winter morning, even if there's a slight drizzle. The real killer, aside from the sun, however, is mud. If you paid attention to Australian weather, it's been crazy wet the last couple of years. I'm talking rain more weeks than not and extremely heavy downpours, maybe once a month, even through the hotter months and the warmth doesn't make it much better. However, if you're lucky, the site will have adequate drainage and other measures to deal with the mud. Aside from that, waiting for the rain to pass can be a little boring,
Starting point is 00:49:48 but a couple of darts and browsing Reddit gets you through most of it. If you're lucky, the boss will just call it and let you go home early, or tell you you get this done and you can go home, which isn't so bad if you can smash out some tasks for half an hour in a downpour, then jump straight in a hot shower once you get home.
Starting point is 00:50:01 The real kicker is if you work in a union, this lad doesn't. These lads get it real easy if it rains. Rain drops, work stops, as they say. I've heard a union rep will hold a cigarette paper out, and if more than three drops of rain land on it, they'll call everyone out. One bloke, a plumber, told me he worked a union site where a pipe had broken, was submerged in a foot of muddy water, and it was pouring down. The union rep told the site manager he'd let the plumber fix it, but he had to go home immediately afterwards and be paid double time my guy got to go home at nine in the morning and earned two days paid for working a few hours holy shit thanks for the many entertaining
Starting point is 00:50:33 hours you're welcome thank you rob man i would uh like a good unions are great aren't they yeah there's gotta be a place in the world where working uh outside on construction or whatever year round is like not too bad right like there's got to be a place in the world where working outside on construction or whatever year round is like not too bad, right? Like there's got to be somewhere where the weather is just like mild enough for it to not be bad either way. But I guess there's always going to be a couple of weeks of rough weather no matter what, right? Like even over here, it's mild pretty much all year round. But in the summer, for a couple of of weeks it'll get like unbearably hot but then in the winter sometimes it'll get not unbearably cold but it'll it'll get colder but
Starting point is 00:51:10 it's it's only ever for like a couple of weeks and then it evens out again but it's it's all the rain over here fuck i'd hate that i'd hate working outside in the rain like just get it just you just feel so miserable when you're all wet and outside you know well i guess i mean the guy's saying you know it's obviously you'd like it to just be a nice plain day but i mean geez when you see you know when it was really hot last summer or the summer before yeah you imagine just having to do physical labor in that heat all i mean i can't imagine doing physical labor anytime it doesn't matter what's happening outside but yeah uh, combined with heat, no thanks. It's just-
Starting point is 00:51:48 Too much. I just burn immediately. I'm not one of these people who has the right complexion for like- you know, some people go out in the sun and they just like, they tan and they look great. You just go all pasty. That's not me, I just go red. Do you think that's a Canadian thing? What's your- I mean, your family background is Polish, right?
Starting point is 00:52:07 No, Hungarian. Hungarian, sorry. So I guess, I don't know. I didn't think they were people that burned in the sun. No. You got anything else mixed in there? Probably, yeah. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:18 It's a very typical North American thing, right? Like you're one-eighth everything. It's just a mixing pot fair enough um all right just just can we finish this uh with a counterpoint email right yes so is this somebody is this somebody agreeing with my opinion on wisconsin or no i haven't got there yet i will look through the rest of the mail okay i'll do that for next time okay so this is from um crab stack is the name they've gone by. Crabstack is clearly an active Jehovah's Witness. So just to be fair, let's give their version of events.
Starting point is 00:52:52 You have spoken a few times in recent episodes about Jehovah's Witnesses, and I thought I'd share what is actually happening. So bear in mind, this is from their perspective. The pandemic may have slowed us for a short time, but it also allowed us to adapt our approach, opening more time for other avenues of preaching, such as writing letters or making phone calls. However, we have now resumed door-to-door preaching. We aren't forced to do anything, nor are we paid, but our desire to preach is based off Jesus' commandment that this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited
Starting point is 00:53:19 earth for a witness to all the nations. Okay. This preaching is now being done all over the globe in well over 100 languages and is the largest preaching campaign in the world all based off our understanding of the bible's message um contrary to what a lot of people think our preaching is not about seeing a return in our efforts or results we can derive we spread a message of hope for the future see like i said they just have to get the message out there that's it right they don't have to tick any box and would they consider doing maybe some odd jobs while they're there or bringing cookies or let us know crab stack so um in essence crab stacks take on on jehovah's witnessing
Starting point is 00:53:50 it's completely different from the former jehovah's witnesses that emailed in uh so i would say you will have to draw your own conclusion i mean i think always religion are they're coming from a place of good right it's not like not like they're somehow doing the devil's work. They believe that they're helping us by saving our souls or letting us know this thing that we don't know. I think that's the point, is that they've got this reading of something. It's almost like Pascal's Wager, right? Pascal's Wager is a very classic idea that why not believe in God, right? Because the downside is eternal hell and damnation, whereas you might as well believe in him because all you have to do is put a quid in the church
Starting point is 00:54:38 once a week and spend some time with some old folks. And it's not a lot of work really to to to go and pray a little bit just to just to avoid the risk sure of of eternal um hellfire and and and so these i always when i look at religious people understand where that they're coming from it from a place of a they were brought up in that community that they're they're brainwashed in a sense but they're they're trapped right all of their family and friends and relatives and place where live, they have to be in that community. They can't not do it. The cost of it is too high. It's not just the risk of eternal damnation and all the other negative things that the church tells you it'll be, but it's being alienated by your family and friends or spouse or whatever. You're kind of trapped.
Starting point is 00:55:24 You might be shunned. I feel sorry for people who are trapped in it, who are rational but can't, screaming inside. But maybe it is also a nice thing to do. Gets you out there, walking around, banging on people's doors, meeting some interesting people. Maybe it's a good life. people's doors, meeting some interested people, maybe it's a good life. And so, you know, if you're doing it, I love you regardless. I don't... I'm interested to know, as somebody who is active in that field, though, what would you say generally is your reception of people when you knock on their door and try to preach it. Yeah, do you ever get people who on the spot go, this sounds great?
Starting point is 00:56:08 They must get some, but I think that the majority of people are fairly dismissive. I could be wrong, but I'm just assuming that they are. Well, then again, it's like fortune telling, isn't it? Or any of this stuff. What you're doing is you're exploiting the ignorant and the vulnerable. What you're doing is you're exploiting the ignorant and the vulnerable. The people who you trap into your religion and suck in are people who are at their lowest point or weak or unable to resist. You're preying on the ignorant. In a sense, maybe you're saving them. Maybe someone is having a really bad mental health day and they need something to do. And I'm sure in some ways, maybe what you're doing can be seen as positive in ways that are doing anything. Maybe a car crash is positive for someone because, oh, that really changed my life around after I had that car crash i stopped drinking i stopped doing all these things stop listening to the triforce
Starting point is 00:57:08 podcast i'm just saying you can couch anything in positive and negative ways it's true but i think overall my feeling is that rational thought is is surely a better a. But maybe I'm wrong. And I'm willing to be wrong. And you guys do you. I'm a pretty rational person, but I think everybody has their pitfalls. I watch The Apprentice every week. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:57:35 It's true. Don't let other people tell you what to do. Don't let me tell you what to do. If you're happy doing what you're doing, knocking on people's doors, or you've got a life that you're content and you found contentment in i'm happy for you and i wouldn't i'm not trying to change your mind i'm not trying i'm not trying to anti-convert you um from religion if you're if religion is a big part of your life and it makes you happy it does sound like you're trying
Starting point is 00:57:58 to anti-convert if not get rid of it if you don't like living in florida fucking move do you mean if you're sick of it make if you need to make living in florida fucking move do you mean if you're sick of it make if you need to make a change start making a change yeah you know you gotta look at the man in the mirror and you gotta go and have a look around it's gotta feel good why not wisconsin come on you know wisconsin we've heard that florida person who emailed in earlier check out wisconsin apparently it's lovely lots of folks written in there they'll take you best place he's ever lived six years running i think he said so yeah so probably pretty good maybe we should go maybe maybe it'd be funny if after all this shit talking wisconsin i went there enjoyed it and then moved there and that would be quite
Starting point is 00:58:37 the turnaround lived out the rest of my life the rest of your life happy so yeah that's all i want as a happy wisconsinian is that what they're wisconsin wisconsinite a wisconsinian a wisconsinian yes all right well that's that thank you that's a mailbag we did it we fucking did it holy we love you and um we want you to be happy yeah and also can i say as well that my opinions on things that i don't know much about i apologize if they offend you i am sorry genuinely i am sorry we've never pitched this as a place of expertise no and to the guy that i didn't pay the gift aid to i'm sorry i didn't i didn't know it's a tax issue it's a tax and to everyone we've offended or irritated well it's not it's irritated, it's not our modus operandi, really.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Man, I'm so sorry. We don't want to. We care. We care. Fuck. Fine. Do you know what? From now on, though, I'm going to be unapologetic. I'm not going to give a shit. That's it. You've had my warning and my disclaimer. Now I'm just going to say
Starting point is 00:59:43 what I fucking want, alright? Nice. That's it. Do it. I'm free now what I fucking want. Nice. That's it. Do it. I'm free now. He's free. Okay. He's free. Well, it's a two-way street, Bozo.
Starting point is 00:59:51 We're going to have to shut this podcast down. All right, Bozos. Oh, man. Goddamn. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you to everyone that emailed in. Obviously, I didn't read all of them out.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Sometimes I have to clip some bits off them because it just sort of gets into into talking about Shadow of fucking Israfel and I'm not going to read that out every time no but um but I don't expect you to you not knowing what I tried I try to read the ones that are interesting so we do get a lot of really genuinely nice emails saying you guys have helped I can see why people prefer the mailbag to the normal episode it's good it's we we got to do the normal episodes right this is good. It's good. I like the mailbag. You can't say that. We got to do the normal episodes, right? This is great. I laughed a lot in this, though.
Starting point is 01:00:29 It's a good one. You don't laugh a lot in the normal ones? I laugh about it. He hates the normal ones. This is new Lewis, Sips. He tells it like it is. He doesn't give a fuck. 2023 strikes again. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:41 We're going. All right. Love you, everyone. Bye. See you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Bye. alright we're going love you everyone bye see you next time bye bye

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