Triforce! - Triforce! Mailbag Special #17: Man Can Land Plane, No Fight Deer

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pickaxe. Where's the jingle? Overflowing. It's overflowing. There's no jingle this week. Fuck the jingle. We're going straight into it. Fuck the jingle. We're going straight into it with an angry email directed at Louis Brindley of the Yogscast. I love these. Triforce. Okay. Why does Louis hate footballers?
Starting point is 00:00:34 Hi, Pyrrhi. I'm just wondering why Louis hates footballers, and particularly Kyle Walker, so much. Over the years, Louis has brought up on several occasions how unpleasant his experience meeting Kyle Walker was was and he seems to take it out on all footballers in general whenever footballers are brought up he belittles them in a recent ttt episode lewis said that footballers have the mind of children where does this come from was carl walker really that bad was it weird that lewis never says that carl walker was mean or rude but that he was awkward and uncharismatic cut the guy some slack he's not an entertainer he's a footballer i also think it's important to note that lewis
Starting point is 00:01:08 did his prospector voice the entire video so maybe it wasn't even carl walker's fault for being awkward okay he's got you there he does have you on unless you've met him you can't comment but i also think a lot of people are awful right like a lot of people a lot of celebrities a lot of youtubers a lot of streamers Lewis does have Disdain for I guess my assumption is that they're gonna be awful until I have met Yes, yeah, and then if they turn out to be really nice Which actually Joe what most the ones I actually have ended up meeting have turned out to be super, super nice, at least on the surface. Including Kyle Walker?
Starting point is 00:01:48 Well, no. You haven't changed your mind? In a specific case. But I think, look, I also, we went out to a thing yesterday. We did some axe throwing. Oh, how was it? It was fun. And Kyle Walker was there.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Was Kyle Walker there doing better than you? I kept chucking the axe axes over the top of the target. Right. And I was like, still better than the old England strikers, though. We made it to the semi-final of a World Cup. Did anyone laugh when you said that? What's wrong with you? Well, I don't know because i did it i did it my radar
Starting point is 00:02:26 was off i'm not sure what did i told you yesterday when you said you're going to the axe throwing to let the axe do the work and you're just directing it i bet you were trying to absolutely fucking chuck it weren't you yes i was yes i was i i listened to your information for like five minutes the thing is i saw everyone else chucking these axes like everyone's doing axe throwing okay and the instructor is like he's got this gigantic axe he stood like a fucking meter away from the the target and obviously he just like just just touched like it's like he's throwing a dart so gently like you know he's got his pinky stuck out he's like uh like into the dartboard right and it's like you're throwing a fucking axe you want to you're trying to chop an orc's head off with that shit not fucking wimpily dribble it into the fucking dart target
Starting point is 00:03:12 i do anyway i obviously watched other people doing it right um which was the other people i was with ben tom duncan and they're all following the instructor and you just thought you knew better sometimes they were looking a little bit cool but mostly they were not looking cool um doing it and i think it was because they weren't putting any oomph into it beast into it any like any any any angle did they manage to uh hit the target ever they did hit the target yes you were in a battle lewis chucking axes around all you're doing is supplying throwing axes to the enemy that's that's what you them I'm taking out the second and third ranks Of those orcs Lewis is out there playing chivalry too Meanwhile everyone else is doing axe throwing Unbelievable
Starting point is 00:03:52 Man it'd be so funny if you listened to a podcast Like just some random podcast And the guy on it was like Let me tell you a story I went axe throwing And I don't know if you know this guy, Lewis from the Oxcast. He was throwing the axes above the target.
Starting point is 00:04:11 He's not what I expected, you know. He just wasn't listening to instructions. It's like he was playing a game of Chivalry 2 out there by himself. I think YouTubers have the minds of children. I think as I get older and older, I get less and less tolerant of people generally. No, I get it. I get it. No, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It's cool. We're just joshing. Oh, that was from Miles, by the way. Thank you, Miles. The worst is when you meet somebody that people hype up, hype up, hype, you know, like these people that are just like hyped up beyond any reasonable means sort of thing. Right. They're like super hyped.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And then you go into meeting them with like, uh, Oh, I'm not going to believe the hype sort of thing. You don't even give them a chance. Maybe that is it. Maybe as an England footballer, I'm expecting some of the more interesting ones,
Starting point is 00:05:00 you know, like the panelists on match the day, you know, those, those charismatic, charismatic, like Alan Shearer. I mean, the dude's not charismatic i was being sarcastic i see okay sorry it was too subtle it was it was a well-layered joke it was so much of the day is you're right it was very
Starting point is 00:05:16 good all right here's the next email this is from jack this is for sip oh no i'm writing to no it's okay i'm writing to inquire about the current state of Sip's garden and the war against bee and snail kind. In Triforce episode 18, that's September 2016, Sip's discussed the imminent destruction of his flower beds to be replaced with more turf due to his lack of time to look after the flower beds. You, meaning me, were of course rightly concerned about the wildlife that relied upon those flower beds and referred to his actions, and I don't remember saying this, as a one-man bee holocaust. Yes. Much to your disagreement, Sips claimed to have a five-year plan after which his children would be old enough for him to bring back the flowerbeds and focus on the flowers, on growing flowers.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Astute mathematicians will recognize that September 2016 is approaching seven years ago. Has this well-thought-out piece of delayed conservation been put into motion? Or was this simply a false statement to divert attention away from his gross garden genocide? You know what? It's actually kind of been working out in a very roundabout way that maybe I can only pull off. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Okay, listen to this. Because since we've had the other baby, we haven't had much time to be. By the way, can I just interrupt very quickly? That was Jack's next point was that he understands you've had a baby. So this might've pushed things back. So continue. It has pushed things back. There's some, some of the plans have been realized though.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Uh, amazingly like, uh, some of, some of the plans that we had to move some stuff around and get rid of some stuff has worked out. Another thing that we never planned for but has sort of kind of worked out. We haven't had much time to tend to the garden or do much gardening at all. So, it's pretty wild back there right now. We haven't paved it over anything. There's still a lot of stuff growing. It's just growing like crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That's good, though. Nature loves that shit. Well, recently, they were like, leave your gardens natural. It's better for the animals and stuff. So now, when people come over and they're like, holy crap, your garden. I just say, yeah, I know. Well, I'm just trying to go all natural for the animals. And it works.
Starting point is 00:07:21 This is perfect for you. It's worked out really good for me, yeah. Because it means that I can justify very easily being lazy. Very good, very good. You've not got no homeowners association telling you to keep it, turn it into a lawn or anything, which is obviously terrible. No. But at the same time, Sips, I feel like your whole garden is not,
Starting point is 00:07:43 it's not a gigantic green space. No, it is not. It's not an acre. No. I mean, I think a prisoner who was imprisoned in your garden would be disappointed by the cell he was given. Sure. Do you know what I mean? You're saying that Sips' garden is worse than the inside of a prison cell.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It's like five paces across. It's not a huge garden. It's not great. It's enough, right? Yeah. It's enough a huge garden. It's not great. It's enough, right? Yeah. It's enough. I mean, if there was more of it, it would just be more untended. I think if you live in the countryside, you'll have a bigger garden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Even if you live in most cities, honestly. I live just outside of the major town. So it's built up. Yeah, but it's not a lot. Everywhere's Jersey's a premium.'s it's built up yeah but there's not a lot of jersey everywhere's jerseys at premium you know it's pretty built up yeah i don't think anyone else i mean compared to the street you're on actually you probably got bigger garden than most of the people but i don't know if it's like um that jeremy like what's the footprint of you getting rid of a flower bed compared to like well yeah anything that anything that we change or get rid of will mean just benefiting
Starting point is 00:08:46 day-to-day logistics stuff you know like we have we got rid of a flower bed that was making it to park on our driveway sometimes you know depending the angle or whatever oh that one yeah that one you might as well replace that with a fucking plant plant plant there's just nothing there now yeah it's glorious you can actually get the uh the cars like on the driveway and stuff so i'm defending you since i'm on your team he's on your side yeah but i know that i know the email wasn't serious either i appreciate that yeah all right i enjoyed it i want to this great to get an update yeah yeah episode 16 my god this is this one is called man fights deer with bare hands and wins we've really opened
Starting point is 00:09:25 fucking floodgates for things about people fighting deer here um yeah so this is from it is uh so we agreed that there was no chance a man could be a deer in a fight he then sends me a youtube video called barehanded deer catching um and this guy uses uh some kind of headlock to catch a wild stag barehanded. Yeah. So everything you guys said was completely wrong. That's what James says. Now, hold on a sec, James.
Starting point is 00:09:50 No, no, we're... James. We stipulated very clearly what the rules of the engagement were. This guy in this video hides himself, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Predator style, covered in mud in an area of water. And when the deer comes by, he ambushes him. We are not talking about an ambush situation. No. We are saying... And also, he is...
Starting point is 00:10:09 We're talking about everyday people who have no outdoors experience. Right. The average person. Not someone who is going to be half naked looking for deer. Devoted their whole life to this one moment that they've captured on film.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And he's dumb enough to film it because I wish the deer had gored him. He just gets it in a headlock and then drags it back because he has to chase it a bit. We're saying that the deer, for whatever reason, we have managed to send it a signal, you must kill this person or it is going to kill you and you cannot run away. We had another email talking about how persistence hunting, I think we've spoken about this before, was the way that a man, early man would would hunt animals without
Starting point is 00:10:45 weapons and stuff was you just run them down and that's still still in parts of africa that is still practiced as a hunting system for a lot you know there are some people that still live the old ways you just run after them eventually they get so tired because they sprint every time they see you they sprint and eventually get tired yeah the african savannah you just run them down no we're very much talking yes we're talking about a. Yes. This is clearly not a fight. We're talking about people who have never been around a deer before are somehow in a situation where they have to fight one in order to live. I think this all comes from the idea that something like 30 or 40% of people in America
Starting point is 00:11:18 think they can fight a deer when they want to win, right? Whereas, in fact, what we're dealing with here is like yeah a lone a killing machine you know this if he doesn't have a fucking beard he doesn't have a maybe a no wait no because he it would uh it would throw off all of his predator camouflage that he's put on for the ambush looks like you know that primitive technology channel where the guy just doesn't do any narration just makes old shit he looks like that, this guy looks like that. Just a skinny guy in some shorts. But he's pretty...
Starting point is 00:11:47 I mean, he's not jacked, but he is ripped. You know what I mean? He's an outdoorsman. Yeah. He's not, like, huge, but he's sinewy. Does he represent the average American person?
Starting point is 00:11:57 No. Absolutely not in a million fucking years. No, the average American person now has to be, like, the humans on WALL-E. On WALL-E. I knew WALL-E reference was coming. No, but it's true, though. One of the most important moments in your life was seeing the WALL-E.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It's a cool memory. These guys in that WALL-E movie. I'm telling you, though. It's frightening how accurate it's seeming now. When you go back and watch it, you just think, holy shit. They knew. They knew. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:12:23 So, I understand. think holy shit they knew they knew so anyway so i i understand i think i think we can see like individual badass humans find who know what they're doing winning bouts against wild animals that are on berserk mode fighting to the death in a cage match yeah i mean i'm thinking like the mountain from game of thrones that lad is one of the strongest men in the world probably one of the strongest men that ever lived pretty sure he's got a decent chance against a deer. Importantly, the question is not could you kill a deer, but could you win a one-on-one fist fight against a deer?
Starting point is 00:12:58 And it's trying to kill you. It's not trying to run away. You have no experience or preparation in the field of... You're just a regular guy. Well, no, you're you. That's regular guy. Well, no, you're you. That's the point. Yeah, no, you're you. You are even worse.
Starting point is 00:13:10 We're just assuming you have no experience fighting deer. Maybe you guys have got tons of deer murdering experience that we don't know about. Yeah, let's move on. Here we go. Next email. This is called, and I'm not quite sure what this title means, but we'll see.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Triforce mailbag men confidence i thought this was spam at first but it's not this is from alex from colorado right uh and alex seems to have a bit of a b in his bonnet um with who or just generally women it turns out just bear with me here okay a lot of women on the interwebs these days will make fun of a statistic that says the majority of men think they could successfully land a plane in emergency in an emergency if the pilot died this is exactly the same as long as they had instructions from air traffic control maybe i'm yet another dumb man but i really think i could do it I've played flight sims and Star Wars Rogue Squadron extensively. This is like that post
Starting point is 00:14:07 that was on recently about how this guy thought he would survive the implosion of the Titan sub. Really? Yeah, and just swim to the top. I would just stretch my arms out to the side and hold it in.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I reckon I could hold an implosion against 40,000 PSI of pressure. The key is to just go empty your lungs first. It is a bit like that, though. Because I think everybody kind of thinks, you know, I probably could. I'm great under pressure and stuff. But in reality...
Starting point is 00:14:42 Oh, my God, that's not what it means. I think, honestly, that i love the confidence of the average person that's why we are where we are that is because you know the first i mean we're gonna do caveman stuff again here forgive me but it goes to the root of who we are as a people the first time that we as a species hunted the woolly mammoth, one bloke was like, I reckon I could take that. Og down. Me reckon me can take that. Look.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I fought sheep. Not much bigger than sheep. Also woolly. Me take. Okay, Og, good luck. Yeah. Someone had to do that. Me wait.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Woman think man not kill mammoths women in cave network always say man can do I can do I'll kill women be messaging each other on cave paintings
Starting point is 00:15:33 saying that men always say they could fight mammoths men be very stupid well we show her well done Alex thank you oh fuck me man
Starting point is 00:15:44 that is so funny I get it though just just before just before we finish fucking hell i gotta flip terry over in a second he's on his back um i get it though i i think everybody's been there where they think you know what like i could do that but the reality is everybody on that plane is probably dead if the if the pilot's gone i mean come on like maybe maybe there's like like some miracle story there where it works out but i don't know i gotta take this call i'm so sorry i mean i actually p flex like you do hear a lot about autopilot yeah you know these days and also if the people do pilots do train on flight sim and if this guy's done like thousand hours of flight sim maybe he maybe he'd be okay i think um well just a helicopter just and no training would be harder bear in mind that he's saying that he's played a lot of star
Starting point is 00:16:34 wars rogue squadron right he says i've played flight sims and star wars rogue squadron the fact that he's throwing star wars Rogue Squadron in as qualification, that's what makes me discount Alex's claim. This I was not aware of, the Rogue Squadron thing. Yeah. I've only just come back, sorry, I had to take a quick phone call, and I just caught the end of that. So he thinks because
Starting point is 00:16:58 he watched Rogue Squadron that he's qualified? No, he's saying he's played a lot of Star Wars Rogue Squadron. Oh, he's played a lot. Yeah Wars Rogue Squadron oh he's played a lot yeah and he's adding that in as qualifications that's honestly
Starting point is 00:17:09 rather than add to his list of qualifications that makes me doubt him more that's like a CV that otherwise looks good
Starting point is 00:17:15 I'm starting to think this is a joke no I don't think it is and he's basically using it as an analogy for the deer thing
Starting point is 00:17:21 trust me this lad is genuine no this lad's no i reckon he's i reckon he's joking i reckon he's got to be joking his face he's gotta be right no because then he says the kind of stuff that uses the plane invert y steering wheel control scheme where you roll left to turn left air traffic control is trained to be able to help
Starting point is 00:17:39 nobodies in case of emergencies right especially i'm an aerospace college student so i might even know like one thing about how things work potentially i don't know if air traffic control is trained i don't know if it is trained to help no but i don't think air traffic controllers are pilots no and therefore i don't think they could just say oh yeah you know rudder down just point it at the ground this is this is air traffic control i've played a lot of Rogue Squad And I reckon I could land you quite safely Can I just ask before We direct you to Land the bird Have you ever played Microsoft Flight Simulator
Starting point is 00:18:15 X Or higher The older versions were not as realistic Can you confirm please Sorry BA2229. I'm currently fighting a deer with my bear hats. I'll be right with you. Copy that one, BA5229.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I'm in the middle of a high score run on Rogue Squadron. I'm going to have to get back to you when I'm done. Thank you very much. Over and out. What else? Next one. All right. This is from Freya, who is a studying anthropology at university oh yeah i
Starting point is 00:18:45 found the discussion about humans and hunting to be intriguing did you know that humans are exceptional endurance runners this is the thing i was talking about we can outrun nearly all animals including deer over long distances so uh the reality is that most prey animals are dumb a deer doesn't care that it can headbutt you unconscious with ease will always try to run away people are providing you with human average fitness, maybe average fitness a thousand years ago. Chasing after it will be enough to kill it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So Freya, again, just to put an end to this and so that we don't get any more emails, appreciate it. We are not talking about the animal running away. It is going to fight to the death.
Starting point is 00:19:16 End of story. We also understand that a lot of wild animals have whatever it is called, called the flight distance where they have a varied amount of distance they will come to things like you if they see human they'll stay a certain distance away and different animals have different levels yeah it's even thought that actually cats
Starting point is 00:19:34 have domesticated themselves um they didn't even like they weren't even bred to be um kind of like well i guess they were bred and they are bred now to be specific and wolves again became dogs because they had a relatively low fear of humans compared to other animals I think they've got a curiosity to them as well which means that they'll go and investigate things, I think a lot of animals lack
Starting point is 00:19:58 curiosity I think cats have that confidence that they know they're getting away from anything they can slink away, right? I think cats, in a way, are the animal world equivalent of men who think they can fight deer. They're very confident, and stupidly so. I mean, cats will often, anyone who owns a cat, you've seen them try to make a jump that you know they can't make. Get stuck on top of something they thought they could get down from.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Do all kinds of stupid shit. They're very confident and curious creatures. Just humans indeed indeed this is uh this is from leona um super relate and appreciate the anger on behalf of your eldest daughter and the duke of edinburgh experience thank you leona uh i honestly think that every duke of edinburgh instructor is a cunt that's leona's words. I was 15 doing a super intense, difficult, genuinely dangerous hike in the middle of fucking nowhere with a group of people who'd never done anything even slightly resembling hill walking before. The instructor knew our background and fitness levels yet still decided to take us the most difficult route, laughing in reply as we voiced
Starting point is 00:20:56 our concerns. We set off with those stupidly massive bags, which had to include shit like a kettle and a gas stove each. About three or four hours in, he begins to continuously yell at us that we're taking too long, expressing his annoyance anytime someone needed a break, and berating the people at the back for not putting any effort in. He became visibly angry because even the fittest of the group are struggling to keep up, so he says that he's done, and proceeds to storm off over one of the hills, fully out of sight. He was the only adult and the only one who knew where we were actually going, and the only one with a full first aid kit. Well, he know he doesn't sound like the only he sounds like a
Starting point is 00:21:27 twat. Yeah, that's we didn't have proper maps because the area has no official routes or trails. So we only had the general direction we saw him fuck off towards to go in. We were alone for at least three hours. I honestly think we just got lucky that we eventually found the right spot. When we got there, the guy was sat picking his toenails and acted like he hadn't just abandoned a group of teenagers in the middle of the Scottish Highlands. That is a fucking disgrace. That is an absolute disgrace. If somebody did that to my kids,
Starting point is 00:21:51 I would want to murder them. That guy, though, is running a Fortune 500 company now. Who's turned out better? God damn it. That guy, I am angry. He's an ambitious go-getter. You know, he's got... He's going for it. I want, I am angry. He's an ambitious go-getter. You know, he's got, he's Duke of Edinburgh and he's going for it. I want to read his LinkedIn.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I really want to read his LinkedIn. I bet it's. Yeah, that's how you do it. You climb the corporate ladder by leaving your people in the dust. You know, this is what it is. You know, it's how you get ahead. Very, very annoying. It's the art of the deal.
Starting point is 00:22:21 You know? Yeah. I'm just here to do the opposing viewpoint, guys. You know, before we all shit talk this guy, you know? No, no, we're all with you on this one. Well, I don't get why people do that job. Like, if they're that angry about it. Find something else to do.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Is there not somebody else that works there that can sort of spot this behavior and get rid of them? Just say, you know what? I mean, if I went to pick up my daughter and that's what she told me had happened, that guy's either getting fired or there's a fucking lawsuit. It's as simple as that. Absolutely. A hundred fucking percent. Probably both.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And they are at the very least getting reported. That is ridiculous. That's stupid. Also, I really don't get the let's do it on hard right because these days it's meant to be a bit of fun it's just it's just an experience and it's meant to be fun it's meant to be like uh it's it's not meant to be easy but it but at the same time it's not meant to be so hard that you're upset right like it's just do it on the easiest setting and then make your own fun especially
Starting point is 00:23:25 when it comes to anything physical like this right because you know it's gonna be it's gonna be hard at the lowest tier right at least for me it is but i feel like like for example like going going on holiday um you know people some people are used to going all day with planned like three things for the day they're like we're gonna do gap early we'll do this thing we'll do this thing in the afternoon then we'll do this thing evening i'm like and nowadays i'm like my rule is like we're gonna do one thing a day right whether that plan maximum of one thing per day even if that's the thing in evening because like yeah it's just the rest of the time you can just fucking chill and then that's enough you don't have to like cram in
Starting point is 00:24:02 i agree stressy actions because it kind of, like some people like don't realize that sometimes it's just best to just chill and fight and make your own, you know, just, I don't know, be more relaxed. Wise words from Lewis. Wise words.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Wise words. Wide ludes. Wide ludes. All right. This is from Dom. Greetings, big fan, blah, blah. Here lewds. Wide lewds. All right. This is from Dom. Greetings, big fan, blah, blah. Here is a question. That's their words, not mine.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Here is a question my girlfriend and I recently debated. Would aliens understand maths at what level? And could we use it to communicate with them? This is taking into consideration the universal rules of maths that some consider were discovered instead of invented. Yes. Yep. In answer to your question of invented? Yes. Yep. In answer to your question, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yes. They would. One plus one is always going to be two. I think as long as they have the ability to understand maths, the question is, how do you communicate with them? And in a book I'm reading that Ben actually recommended to me called Children of Time, which is fantastic. It's the first of a trilogy of books.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Absolutely brilliant. It does cover the whole aliens understand maths thing, because whilst I don't want to go into any detail, but there is some communication involving maths. But once you've done that, it's like, all right, what now? So we understand that there is a common language, which is mathematics. But what could you actually do with that in terms of telling them about yourself or, you know, any other detail beyond do you also agree that these are prime numbers and this is the sequence? And they would say, yes, we do. And you'd be like, great. That would be the extent of the conversations. You would lay out all your mathematical principles and everything,
Starting point is 00:25:34 and they would be the same as theirs, presumably. And then where do you go from there? You couldn't have a conversation with someone just in maths because it has to translate to something else. It would be like trying to read machine code. you you would need a language beyond it that you could understand as as intelligent beings but at the same time i also like the idea of uh some like some holes in knowledge right like i like the idea that based on what kind of alien life and where you evolved and the things you need and and require for your species and also in a sense what's in demand you know everything is driven on on this planet by demand right if people want something and it's then then we will push down that's why we've got so much technology
Starting point is 00:26:16 when it comes to phones and and the the directions that we've gone and and there's holes in our knowledge of things that are less of a problem you know like not too many people have this disease therefore the fuck we don't know how to fix it right if because it's not worth our time putting in that effort right for 10 people to spend billions to develop a cure for this disease right and so in a sense like it's possible that um this is explored a little bit in um the book i read over over christmas the one you recommend the andy weir um one oh yeah yeah it's quite fun yeah it was it was long shot project project hail mary yeah yeah where they meet these aliens like not really spoiler but um and the aliens have like not necessarily the same overlapping knowledge as humanity yeah they know things we don't but we
Starting point is 00:27:02 know things they don't which is kind of really interesting because um you know it's like it puts it into perspective because we just assume aliens to be omniscient and to know everything we do right um but i like the fact that they're basically equivalent in many ways like we're both on in the same kind of boat but that they arrive because the thing is that the whole point of science and maths i think is that you were looking not for truth relative to your species, like gravitational waves, for example. There's a lot of stuff, this LIGO project and a lot of stuff that's going on with gravitational waves at the moment, which is very, very interesting. That's not unique to us. That has no bearing on whether we are mammals or some crystalline species or whatever. If you get to the level
Starting point is 00:27:43 of understanding and intelligence that we are at or higher, this is still going to be something that you can observe and understand and measure. These are phenomena that exist outside of any constraints that are biological. And maths is the same. There's no way that an alien species could decide that one plus one isn't two
Starting point is 00:27:59 because that's inconsistent with reality. And whilst they might have a different way of displaying these things and understanding it, the fundamentals of mathematics are so fundamental that there's no way around them. They are what they are. It's not like we invented addition. We just began to understand how you can combine numbers and use them in certain ways. But like the guy said in the email, it's a discovery, not an invention.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So they would discover it too. Well, at the same time, though, they'd only discover the things that are in that route to the core principles that explain the universe right and and allow them to get the technology to get into space for the first time right there's a huge amount of things you need to know to build a spaceship or you know get to the bottom of the ocean and you know if you want to do that it's this gradual improvement of of knowledge and and yeah we do a lot of pure maths for fun i think a lot of i watch a lot of matty matty youtube number file and shit like that yeah yeah all these i watch all those things they're great and they're fascinating to me and i don't understand
Starting point is 00:28:59 honestly like i usually with them for like the first three minutes of the youtube video and then they lose me so this is a little bit like when i was doing maths at school i was with them for a bit and then i lost them yeah and i just about made it through to the end of the lesson do you i feel like that's generally my feeling i've never quite been fully but i i'm fascinated by i just like the soothing smart people juggling numbers and making connections and things. And so I think maybe there's some puzzles or some mathematical things that they haven't solved. It's possible. Or even needed to think about and therefore.
Starting point is 00:29:34 It's possible. But in the same way that we could have lost that stuff too, right? I'm sure humans are solving puzzles and they're not thinking it's important or publishing it, but we've got no way to reference it and then other maths professors are independently coming up with oh the same problem having to solve it again but it but if it's not like something that's a core problem um or or a core a core like roadblock in technological progress then yeah i don't see i don't see why we couldn't have different different paths i mean yeah it true, but I still think a lot of it is just is fact rather than opinion. And I think any common facts are something that another alien species could discover. Like gravity. I mean, gravity exists.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They would understand that and would, if they're going into space, would understand the maths around gravity. Like they would have had to have come to the same uh they may well have used different scales in the same way that we we have picked things that we feel appropriate to us right in a sense like you know um water freezes at zero or a hundred but also we got the fahrenheit scale which which has a different frame of reference right oh yeah all of that could be wildly different but so exactly and so but all of our measurements and factors are based on things that we we'd like to think would be what if the alien that you meet is like the aliens equivalent of christians against science or something you know what i mean and then they just how they get into space well i don't know
Starting point is 00:31:02 but what if what if that's the one that you meet and they're not a very accurate representative of their species or their whatever, you know? It's true. You might get unlucky and meet a dud. A dud one. Like a conservative one. Purge the Xenos! That's all they're saying.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Oh my God, you might meet the alien kyle wonka yes um you might i am karl walker from planet food ball this alien is lacking charisma all right we got another email here chaps this is uh this is a short one but it's something that we talked about last week trombone lung what did we decide trombone lung was no no we were just talking about it yeah we were talking about how how you get these fungal things in places where, you know, there's hot air and water going into the trombone. Yes, moisture. Regarding the trombone lung discussion, somebody sent us a list of horrible lung infections you could get or something. I thought you might be interested in these inventions for brass instruments that were created during COVID to make up for the fact you can't wear a mask while playing.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But obviously you're blasting COVID-y breath everywhere. I've just sent you a link there. Open that. That will take you to the page for the KYT music instrument bell cover, eight inches for standard trombone, alto horn, baritone, saxophone. You put it over the end of the trombone and it catches the flex of trombone lung and COVID that gets sprayed everywhere. So there are solutions to these problems. What a specific thing to make.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah. Incredible. Just for people who don't, this looks like one of those hats that you wear, you pull over your head. You know, it's just like a cover. It's a cover. It's like a crappy little cover. Crappy?
Starting point is 00:32:41 The KYT Musical Instrument Access accessories company makes only the finest uh trombone alto horn eight inch covers lewis although of course other brands are available yeah does it reckon it changes the tombra tombra though because they put normally have like they put stuff on the in the in the horns like that changes the way it sounds i can't remember what they call it but i think i think they call it. I could be wrong. Some muso will email in. It's like that thing that you put over a trumpet. It's like a wah-wah mute or something. Wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, the wah-wah mute. I think it's called a mute. Anyway, someone will know. You are. That's what it is, yeah. It's different ones. Well, all right. This is a good one.
Starting point is 00:33:18 This is from Sam. This is an embarrassing childhood story, which immediately caught my eye because I love those. Hope you enjoy this i was nine years old at my local leisure center when uh they put on a giant inflatable obstacle course in the swimming pool i'm loving it but due to the amount of kids we have to queue up to get on it one at a time after a couple of goes i'm hyped to get on it again i'm in the queue swinging my arms around like i'm on crack that's because he's nine years old and he's excited that's what they do yeah in front of me is an older teenage girl minding her business in the queue. Suddenly one of my 360 swinging arms goes wayward and I find myself slapping her right on the ass cheek.
Starting point is 00:33:54 The cracking sound is monumental and everyone turns around to see what it was. The look of disgust from the girl still haunts me today as I babbled an apology. To top it off, all of our family and parents who'd taken us were watching from the sidelines, and I'm pretty sure I made eye contact with her dad. I spent the rest of the event sheepishly taking my turn on the inflatable obstacle. Sam, I'm sorry to hear that. We're now married with two children, and we often look back on this incident. And we can all laugh at the time we met.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Sometimes in the bedroom, i still smack that ass on our inflatable bed so i have a similar story this is when i was doing my work experience i worked in in richmond not far from here and i worked for a small company and the first week I was there. This is you swinging your arms around. So excited. It's actually a story about you. You're not reading somebody else. No,
Starting point is 00:34:50 this is me. This is me. Um, and, uh, I would have been, well, let me see.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I would have been 19 or 20 and I'm at the company. And at the end of the first week, I barely got to know everybody at this point. My boss, a very tall lady, very attractive, uh, was, was there. Oh, I didn't say where we we were we were on like a team building exercise right sure so there's like 30
Starting point is 00:35:12 people they're all in the office and we all to do these active sort of run around here climb that we had to do the jousting with the big q-tips all that shit yeah um anyway it was a laugh one of the moments we had to run go around a pole and then come back. I'm running, we're all running. And as I reached the pole, I sort of pinwheel my arms a bit in order to get some traction so I can turn quickly and get back up the course. As I'm pinwheeling my arms, one of my hands completely cups the breast of this lady, my boss, really, really cups it, like genuinely, completely by mistake. She sort of gasps and gives me a look.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And I sort of quickly let go and run off like some kind of escaping pervert. Charge back. And we never mentioned what happened. But she absolutely knows that I and I know, of course, that I accidentally grabbed her boob, like full on grabbed it unintentionally. So that was my it does happen. It does happen. The pinwheeling of arms.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It has happened. unintentionally so that was my it does happen it does happen the pinwheeling of arms it has happened women i'm sure have all kinds of stories that they could email in about dimes blokes have accidentally well that's all fine and everything but that's never happened with me and my honker and so i mean everybody else is getting like you know oh accidentally touched your boob sorry or whatever well nobody's ever accidentally touched my schlong so what's going on maybe i'm in the wrong place no one's ever accidentally touched my penis either right but what am i doing wrong where that's located does that happen to you as well p-flats because we could no one's i don't think anyone's accident not that i've remembered
Starting point is 00:36:41 okay so so i think i'll tell you what no one's ever touched it deliberately either. Now, I have accidentally touched a couple of boobs through clothes, but again, not knowingly at the time. And I wonder how many, on average, on average boob touchers are accidental and how many are gropers? Because women get their bums touched and pinched and slapped. It used to happen a lot, more it was yes it's probably still does happen of course but i think i think nowadays especially in the workplace it would be like a lawsuit you know you'd get fired but well i hope so like if i popped down to bristol and we were recording and
Starting point is 00:37:20 someone walked past and i just went like and just squeezed their ass, I'm pretty sure I'd get booted out. That would be right. What goes through... I mean, I know what goes through somebody's mind, but I would never pinch somebody's ass or anything or slap someone's ass. Yeah, but we're not like that. We'd never kill anybody.
Starting point is 00:37:39 What makes people that are like that, like that? Because they're fucking dicks. I think every woman I know I've spoken to about this has had a story about some guy groping him or touching him inappropriately. Yeah, of course. Yeah, we're disgusting. I mean, if it's not the hand on leg, you know, it's definitely something similar, right? Yeah. And it's totally not cool.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Of course it's not cool. But these are accidents. I think it's one of those nasty things from Pick Up as well, which they're like they refer to as Kino, which is where you're supposed to, if you're flirting with someone, you're supposed to physically touch them playfully, like, ah, ah, ah, and touch
Starting point is 00:38:18 them on the arm. I'm not a touchy person, to be honest. Never do that. Don't touch me either. If I was in a conversation with someone, even if the conversation was going really well, I can't think of a situation where I would be making physical contact with anybody, you know, like, oh, like putting my hand on their shoulder or something. Like, it's just, I just wouldn't do that to anyone.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I mean, I wouldn't even do that to my wife. She'd think that's weird. I would be passing someone a drink and I'd accidentally touch their hand and I'd be worried about it for a week. Jesus Christ. Yeah. All right. I don't want to, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:56 All right. Let's move on. Let's move on. Don't touch other people. Yeah, that's weird. With COVID. Touch them. Touch them.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Maybe if you had a cover, though. maybe if you had a trip like a cover though maybe you've had like a stretch over black like um fabric cover for your whole for your body just a trombone alto horn cover i'm not so against that you know yeah like how many layers of clothing is it okay to touch a boob through i think as long as they're wearing plate mail armor you're okay you can just you can poke someone's boob if they're wearing plate mail armor, you're okay. You can just work to fill the armor if they're wearing plate mail armor. Yeah. Okay. As long as it's not-
Starting point is 00:39:29 And you've got a chain mail glove. And you have a chain mail glove, then it's acceptable. All right, solved. This is interesting. This is from Cheers, some random scientist. So this is a science-y one. Right. The title of the email is Fico Bionics.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Fico- Fico Bionics. Is this something to do with poop? It is. Augmented poop? You'll find out. I've been an avid listener of the podcast for some time and felt that some of my past scientific work could provide for an interesting story considering all the poop discussions in the past. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Oh God. Don't worry, it's not bad. I used to work at a biomedical device incubator, and one particular project was focused on a science called fecobionics. There exists a large population of patients that experience fecal incontinence, and scientists are interested in the physical interactions between the various muscles and structures that aid in pooping and the poop itself. The project developed a complex probe that could be inserted into a patient's anus,
Starting point is 00:40:26 lubricated, of course. The probe would then be inflated using saline and the insides of the patient could be three-dimensionally mapped. The patient would then be instructed to go through the motions and poop the device out, all the while the device would track meticulously the forces exerted upon it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 The device would wirelessly deliver real-time data that was tracking to a computer where the patient's pooping mechanisms could be analyzed. Anyway, by comparing healthy poopers to those with some inability to poop properly, we hoped to understand the underlying mechanisms of their problems more. During the early stages of development, I was offered $100 to have this procedure done to me. However, I declined as I did not wish my coworkers to see me in such a state." Very interesting. And then there is a picture of, I will, I will download this and I will show you the picture. Is it a, is it a balloon poo? No, it's, don't worry. It's not a bad
Starting point is 00:41:14 picture. Is it, is it a Dale Chihuly sculpture? It's not, sadly it's not. It's this. That's what it was. Oh my God, it looks like Titan ocean gate Titan submarine looks exactly like the ocean gate Titan submarine It looks like a like a propane tank with a stim inside it That is also what it looks like. It looks like it like a stim from from Tarkov inside the ocean gate Shove this up your ass and as you can see it's got electrodes and rear pressure sensors and pressure sensors and mpu cpu with wireless transmitter batteries and pressure sensor fascinating of course yeah oh my god all all to figure out pooping yeah
Starting point is 00:41:58 well it's important stuff it is yeah um poop poop incontinence is not something I ever considered. You know, like you normally, when people say they're like incontinent or whatever, you think it's pee. They can't help but pee, but not being able to help pooing would be pretty- Well, it's a spectrum, right? Pretty awful, yeah. People with IBS have like bowel urgency. Yes, yeah, yeah. And it's kind of, it can be a whole thing that develops over time or it
Starting point is 00:42:26 can be a symptom of something you know they say if you have significant changes in your digestive routine you should uh see someone you know so you know keep keep your butts safe yes folks out there go to a doctor and mention mention the trifles podcast yeah so yeah i was listening to a doctor and mention the Trifles podcast. Yeah, I was listening to a couple of old guys talking about poop and it got me thinking. I heard they had this thing that you could put up there that inflated and- Reminds me of something. Looks a bit like a submersible with a spin pack in it. Have you ever seen this?
Starting point is 00:42:58 I wanted to go into it and explore the- I mean, if you've got really good poop muscles then we're talking explosive decompression of that thing saline everywhere do you reckon you could crush we're approaching crush depth of the anus what kind of PSI does the anal shrink to
Starting point is 00:43:18 that's why you gotta put that object in there and poop it out that's the kind of shit that alien mathematicians are trying test it. That's the kind of crap they're trying to figure out. They're working on it. Or they look at us and they're like, they're still on fecobionics. What the fuck? These guys are idiots. They haven't even figured out how they poop. Alright, this is from
Starting point is 00:43:35 David and Sherja who are tiny penis and gaping vagina havers. They're from Down Under. G'day Triforce. Every year during my winter, your summer, I'll listen to the three of you bitch about how hot it is in the UK. Yeah. Often I'll think to myself, they don't know heat. It's bloody cold over there.
Starting point is 00:43:52 No, we don't. We're not used to it. Well, you'll find out. He changes his bloody mind. All right, anyway. Currently, myself, wife, and grandfather are traveling around the UK on holiday. Holy shit, it can get proper warm here. Aha!
Starting point is 00:44:04 It's not the temperature is brutal, but like Lewis has said before, the infrastructure is lacking. No air con, everything's carpeted, buildings are designed to keep heat in. Most hotels don't even have a ceiling fan. But why is this the case? Surely I've heard you talk about how horrible summer is for the past five years. Climate change is going to make more heatwave events more extreme. Why won't companies make a change? Why aren't your theatres in the west end equipped with aircon i was sweating my balls off the other night why haven't you got fans in rooms please let me give you an aussie certification that is it is uncomfortably hot but also it seems that most british just seem to
Starting point is 00:44:37 complain and do bugger all year and year out just take your top off mate like all of us do just complain about it for the one day of the year it happens. That's the issue, exactly. Well, the thing is, it's gone back to, yeah, it's like 15 degrees outside now. Yeah, it's like 18 degrees is the peak today. My flat is still 25, 6 in it, though. It's not cooling down. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I've got the windows open, but it's like a heat trap. We don't have six months of heat. We just don't. And we never have. And it is only in the last few years. I mean, this is funny. I was talking to a friend of mine. This is when I was in Stockholm last week.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Suns fan, for any of you who are Dota fans. He's from Arizona. And he said to me, you don't have any air conditioning in your house. And I can't get my head around that. Because there was also terrible air conditioning in Sweden. They're in the same boat as us. It's really nice for maybe, if you're lucky, two months of the year,
Starting point is 00:45:27 it'll be like really hot, nice, sunny weather. Yeah. After the time, it's probably overcast or not that hot or there's a breeze and all the rest of it. It's just not worth it. I think it's a big waste of time. Maybe in future years with climate change and stuff, it'll get hotter.
Starting point is 00:45:42 It's true. It's more than possible. It's likely. But I don't think at the moment that we could be expected to suddenly have ac everywhere some people i know have got i know sips has got it in his garage and i know a couple other people have got one unit here or there but they haven't got their whole house ac'd no i have to have it in here because if i'm streaming or or whatever i will just be profusely sweating all day, any time of the year. It just gets so hot in here because it's just basically a little box, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:46:13 So, it makes sense to be comfortable while I'm doing this. But to have it across my whole house would cost a heck of a lot of money and we just wouldn't we wouldn't use it day to day even right even during the summer we wouldn't use it every day we would maybe use it i think i told this story i went when i was looking at moving flat and buying a place i was looking at this um apartment in on the harbour side and i don't know what facing it is north facing south facing whatever the one it had these big windows so it got the sun all day and it was obviously a place that got so hot in summer that they had to install aircon like it came as standard place right and i was like so so surprised by that and then what i actually noticed i've told before is that i noticed that all of the um like the
Starting point is 00:47:02 seals around the windows and stuff had like melted and a lot of other bits and stuff around the flat had like melted in the sun and it was partly because they'd actually ripped out the aircon whole system at some point obviously it'd been malfunctioning or they had kept it maintained or it'd been some legacy system you know like we don't have a lot of aircon companies in this country that do this stuff right or at least do it properly and so it obviously failed at some point they couldn least do it properly and so it obviously failed at some point they couldn't get the part and then it hadn't been on and then the flat had been so unlivable and hot that it actually melted a whole bunch of like the infrastructure the flat and i
Starting point is 00:47:34 was like i was like this place is fucked like were there any steel beams in there not melted that's so often the thing i always find this stuff like like it's the same thing with you know oh can't get the parts anymore mate for this thing you know you know i know the door's falling off but we can't get the hinges anymore i don't make them it's like well fucking what do you what do you mean you know just fucking figure it out no no i have to replace the whole gazebo mate yeah i mean i know i know a lot of people in the states who've got ac and and pools and i would say fully half the time there's someone around fixing one or the other like all of this shit needs so much fucking maintenance it's not just like you know your boiler you get serviced once a year if it breaks it's like quite a big deal
Starting point is 00:48:20 ac it always seems to be fucking on the fritz one way or another you gotta get someone out for this that or the other because if you live in a really hot country it's just chugging away all the time yeah it's gonna fucking break man it gives you in it even in eastern Canada the suburbs are so hot but like it wasn't um it was fairly common for people to have uh like if you lived in the suburbs it was fairly common for people to have swimming pools. You know, like this is like middle class families with swimming pools. But like quite a few of them. Like I know like a lot of people I went to school with or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And we just went to normal schools like in our neighborhood. It wasn't like a fancy school or anything. My family is not wealthy or anything. I mean, I'd say like half of the people at my school had a house with some sort of pool whether it be in ground or above ground or whatever it was fairly common but if i speak to people over here and i say oh yeah i used to go to my friend's house and go swimming or whatever they're like whoa whoa are you are you were you like a multi-millionaire did you have a tennis court as well and stuff and and it's really hard to explain that it's just actually so fucking hot that you just need some devices to cool down in the summer like
Starting point is 00:49:32 it's i think it's that's definitely a part of it like the the fact that when it's really hot for months at a time you need some way to cool down and this is a good way especially you've got kids yeah chuck them in the pool yeah but you also got to remember people have more land if i had a garden 10 times the size and lived out in the middle of nowhere i might have a pool yeah but or a hot tub or something but we just where the fuck are we gonna put it gotta remember as well this is in this was in the 80s so everything was cheap it was everything was much cheaper they used to actually build big houses give you big yards and stuff. I know nowadays that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But when I was a kid, it was, you were just coming out of the generation that enjoyed a four bedroom house and two cars and working at a fucking box factory. Nine to five, Monday to Friday. It's the same thing in winter though as well. We complain about how cold it gets and we complain about how when it snows, the whole country shuts down. But again, I realise we're going to have more of these events, but are we like, it's probably going to be cold for the next couple of weeks, then it'll be hot for another week, and then we're done.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah. And we've rolled it out. Most of the time, you can tough it out in the UK. And honestly, like, what is this? So I've got like a couple of problems in my flat. One of the ones is like a couple of the lights have gone and they've got this weird weird square bracket And I talked about it before or something and people said oh they sent me those pictures They were like oh Lewis is the LG light socket fixture or it's oh, this is the fucking wa
Starting point is 00:50:57 109 and I'm like it was none of those they googled it. I could find it anywhere. So I just don't have a light there Yeah, just get some lamps just get some those um fancy spotlight i have i've just got a bunch of plugging lamps it's nice anyway i've got a bunch of these spotlights they're always on the fritz you know you can tap them and they're just the bulbs don't fit they're really really cheap and they're shit and there's tons and tons of these things right anyway i've got a red an old dishwasher which obviously was installed when the flats were built which was probably 30 40 years ago now now it can't be that long 20 years who knows but anyway it looks like an original so i think they converted the flats in the 90s so it must be 20 years old this dishwasher anyway um the the dishwasher tray
Starting point is 00:51:34 the bottom tray i used to put like um heavy saucepans in there but a couple of the pegs were already broken yeah and the pegs have got this like rusty dirty like wood inside them and it's kind of all moldy. Anyway, I was like, oh, fuck. I think I fucked this. So I'm going to see if I can find a replacement. And of course, I just fucking Googled it. Man, just get a new dishwasher, honestly, for the amount of trouble. I thought trying to get a dishwashing tray is like going to be an absolute fucking.
Starting point is 00:51:59 That is going to be an impossibility. So anyway, I did a little bit of Googling. I found one for like 50 quid, which again again i looked at because it's an inbuilt dishwasher the only thing i had was the serial number which when i googled it didn't go to anything yeah they don't make um and like it just said curry's essentials and i was like yeah it's essentials maybe that's actually a thing so i did curry's essentials dishwasher rack bottom found one it's 50 quid ordered it turned up what do you think happened done fit fit perfectly actually fit perfectly and i was like i could not fucking believe it it was like it was like
Starting point is 00:52:32 the first time that had ever happened um because i was i was ready to take that thing straight down to the bin for or you know or like trying to try to try i was i thinking I'm going to try and send it back, but I know they're not going to accept it. You can get a brand new Beko dishwasher for 250 pounds and that's over here. It's probably even cheaper for you. So are you saying I got ripped off on the 50 quid dishwasher? Yes. Oh, yeah. You could have just got a brand new one. Got rid of the 20 year old one.
Starting point is 00:53:02 But I think I paid. To me, that was like worth it though because the train well i mean i'd lost like i'd say like 10 or 15 of the pegs and it was getting worse to the point where there was like little flecks of like rust or something we got it we had an older older dishwasher where all of the all of the inside the the you know like the the fucking whatever it's like rubbery but it's like hard hard rubber i don't know what the fuck it is but yeah it's the same stuff whatever it was like splitting open and there was like rust and it just looked like shit and it started it was starting to stink and stuff but it was it was an old dishwasher so we replaced it we got a new a new dishwasher and uh the new dishwasher
Starting point is 00:53:39 you can you can have it on your wi-fi in your house. We can, like, program it and stuff. It's fucking awesome. You could be, like, you could be out of your house, go on your phone, and be like, yeah, start the dishwasher. I'm on my way home or whatever. Do you reckon aliens have that level of technology? I hope that they do if they want to. Maybe they don't. Maybe they haven't needed it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah, but what aliens? Like, what level? Are they amoeba? No, they don't have dishwashers. it yeah but what what aliens like what what level are they amoeba no they don't have dishwasher no they they are the dishwashers they they oh they might not even eat out of dishes their whole planet is just dirty plates with like ketchup on it and they just you threw it in the bin you got rid of that you genocided that hawaiian race when you took that dishwasher out oh you think there's aliens in the dishwasher well you chuck that dishwasher out. You think there's aliens in the dishwasher? They landed, they were trying to make contact. That dishwasher hasn't ceased to be, Lewis. It's probably sitting in a
Starting point is 00:54:29 warehouse right now. They're probably perfectly happy. It's probably sitting on some heap somewhere. You know, it's just left, and they're probably... I think they're heaps and heaps and heaps of old sofas, mattresses, garbage, and crap that we've dumped on the world. It's still there.
Starting point is 00:54:47 That's nature. It takes a long time to incinerate that volume of stuff. You know, nature gets to reclaim that dumping land. You know, just think of the life that's being all in that garbage bin. Yeah, over here they built a big incinerator and everybody was like, oh man, that's crazy. We're not going to have any any more garbage we're just going to incinerate all of it and they incinerate like maybe five percent of the garbage like they just cannot keep up with the volume we still have so much pollution landfill we still have to do like all this stuff still tons of like recycling and everything if they burn plastic all those bits of fucking plastic end up in the environment anyway right like little tiny microscopic bits you see you see how they do um like in the uk they've got like big uh processing
Starting point is 00:55:29 centers because it's like there's a fair bit of money to be made now they melt down down all the old plastic into like these little pellets and they just have these pallets of uh like a box with like millions of pellets that they send off to factories and then they can with each of those pellets they can uh reshape it into like a new bottle for whatever you know water or ketchup i don't think they use recycled plastic for for water bottles but but they do for making like sure yeah like there's tons of stuff that they can one positive thing i know i saw this week was simon clark was talking about was he came around and we were chatting about stuff and he was talking about how something like 25%,
Starting point is 00:56:08 yeah, like there's 25% of our daily national grid in the UK is wind. Now it is, yeah. There's been a big push to- Which is huge when you think about it. Like that we can generate 25% of our power from wind. We've got these really big banks of turbines offshore, actually, apparently the North Sea.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Have you not flown over them? Super, super windy. They're building that new. I haven't. They're building that nuclear power plant in Hinkley as well, aren't they? You know who's making it, don't you? I think it's the French. It is. Yeah. Well, the French.
Starting point is 00:56:38 We don't know how to fucking do it. The French do a lot of that. Well, the incinerator that they built over here was built by the French as well. They just got really good engineers in France. They know how to Like we don't care about fuck he's gonna need to build nuclear power blow my yeah and then the French were like well We sing somebody might They're building like some massive fucking It's like this huge bunker where they're testing fusion or something in um in france and it looks insane i can't remember the name of it i'll i'll
Starting point is 00:57:13 look it up and let you guys know there was a i think it was last year there was a big breakthrough of fusion where they were getting really close yeah yeah they're in china i think they're testing it as well some something similar but yeah no mean, this could be the tipping point. If we can genuinely, if we can crack this in time. Yeah. If we can crack fusion power, we can get rid of all of this shit. Yeah. I mean, it's that fucking good.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I think the French were, like recently as well, they were testing like hypersonic missiles as well, which they denied but um they basically had to they had to admit that that it's a thing because apparently there was just like this all this evidence pointing towards it but they were like no no you just follow the direction the missile are you talking about well we've we've tracked the missile it came from france yeah okay that's how i know yeah uh so So do we want one more email or not? I don't know about that fusion thing. I think that that's a bit of a dangerous idea to have. Why?
Starting point is 00:58:10 Because, well, because you're like, well, we can just carry on burning fossil fuels until we get fusion. No, no, no. But fusion might never be doable. I agree. What I'm saying is if we can beat it, if we can get fusion done and actually crack it,
Starting point is 00:58:23 it really could change everything. Oh, I'm not saying it wouldn could change everything. Oh, oh yeah. I'm not saying it wouldn't be an amazing breakthrough, but I think that I'm not banking on it. It might actually not be possible. Nah, it's possible. It's possible. Maybe not in our lifetime, but if we've got this close, we're idiots. If we've got this close, it's possible.
Starting point is 00:58:40 We just, we just haven't figured it out yet, but I bet we'll get there. I do. I do reckon oddly enough, because we've been getting closer and closer, I reckon it could be one of those things where we actually can crack it. Because it's observable, right? We can see that it is a thing that happens. Just we need to recreate it. It's not like we've invented this idea.
Starting point is 00:58:55 We just need to figure it out, how this works, and how to recreate it here on Earth. It's not like some pie in the sky shit. It's not like some guy saying he's come up with the perpetual motion machine. We're like, well, we know that doesn't work he's actually this is actually like a thing anyway one more email no i have to go i'm sorry i i am a very very busy um father and husband i know i know it's like uh it's like i work like in a solo busy office here these days so much going on it's crazy crazy. Some help. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:26 All right. Well, thanks for filling the same. Thank you for the the emails. And thank you lads for joining me. It was a really interesting mailbag. Yeah, really nice mail. Thank you very much. Everybody. Keep them coming. Yes. Be good to each other. Yes. All right. Love you. Bye.

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