Triforce! - Triforce! Mailbag Special #34: 10 Deadliest Animals in the World

Episode Date: July 4, 2024

Triforce Mailbag Special 34! We get a great response to Pyrion's tennis rage, try to make a love connection and try to list the 10 deadliest animals in the world! Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickaxe. restaurants in Canada for a limited time. and a grand prize of $25,000. Play at games.circlek.com or at participating Circle K stores. Ah, the mailbag once more. We are here. I have a whole... My mailbag is overflowing with references to previous mailbags and previous podcasts. Some angry emails, some delightful emails and everything in between. Where would you guys like to begin? I will give you some topics. You let me know what catches your eye. How does that sound? Perfect. That sounds great. Sorry. I am a

wake and here. Sorry. All right uh... I'm on holiday, technically. Yes. So I'm gonna be lazier this episode, to represent the fact that I'm lying on a beach. Oh man. How about something about the podcast itself? This is, this is from Wendell. So, okay, let me just, before we start... Wendell?

I know that... Lots of people on Reddit like to do stats, okay? And some people just take it upon themselves to do fascinating stats of things. So is this gonna be... How many times Sips said bath plug? Or how many times Pyrrhon complained about Bournemouth's football track record? Do you remember? How did you guess?

It is. How did you guess? That's incredible. He's a that guy. He has access to your emails. This guy just, he wanted to ask, re-watching episode 149, at around 8 minutes 40, Pirine asks how many times Sips said the word stuff in relation to how full his cupboards are, and how he doesn't want more stuff for his birthday taking up room in his house.

How many times? He said it fifteen times in a three minute window. He said the word stuff. ALICE Yeah. I mean, I was talking specifically about stuff at the time. And trying to emphasize how much stuff. Which I think I was successful in doing. The emphasizing, I mean.

RILEY Indeed, I think you did a great job. ALICE This is something that comes over time, with age, you know? You just get more stuff. RILEY You're eating. ALICE I mean, an apple. I'm on the beach! Oh, right. Big Liz Hurley News, that's the title. Big Liz Hurley News. Huge.

Recently, defunct lads mag Loaded, if anyone remembers Loaded, has made a return as an online-only publication. You'll never guess who's the cover girl on the first issue. Liz Hurley! Loaded online. Loaded gets digital relaunched by new owner. Okay, let me see. This is... Okay, Loaded gets digital relaunched by new owner happened in 2015. RILEY I don't know what to tell you.

This Tom emailed in that Liz Hurley is here. He has a follow-up question. ALICE Right. RILEY There's Revival, which is apparently seven years ago, or eight years ago, nine years ago. What do you guys think about the lads' culture of the late 90s and early noughties? We were there for it. What did you make of it?

You know how... I liked all those magazines. Okay, you know Loaded magazine, right? It's like the Yogscast, it's still being read and watched by the same people who were watching it that many times ago. So having Liz Hurley on, that's fine. Because that's what those people remember, right? It's not attracting new audience, and therefore you should just cater to the

people that you already have. We redid the Dota Star challenge to great joy, both with us and with our audience, y'know? And that was a thing that we did ages ago. All you have to do, guys, is just do the same old shit. That's the secret. You know, period's still doing Dota, Sips is still building fences in various games related to building things, like zoos or cities, you know, or, like, we're still digging holes. It's... Loaded magazine are still putting Liz Hurley on the front, and fucking... Who are the other people they're putting on the front?

Let me think. ALICE. Lucy Pinder. Lucy Pinder, exactly. Katie Price. The wonderful pillowy boobs of Lucy Pinder. Yes, pillowy boobs! Pillowy boobs. She did have massive, massive knockers. God, Lucy Pinder.

She was an absolute dreamboat back in the day. She had lads mag. Caw. Fucking hell. I don't know, what is Lucy Pinder up to now? Have you just Googled Lucy Pinder? Caw. Bloody hell. Lucy. That's what loaded men magazines men read. What is Lucy Pinder up to now? ALICE Have you just googled Lucy Pinder? ALICE Lucy... That's what loaded magazines men read.

JUSTIN Lucy Pinder now. How old is she, actually? She's forty years old. ALICE She's 93. JUSTIN She's my age. December 20th, 1983. ALICE I know. Lucy Pinder.

RILEY Here, this is from a subreddit, this is the title of the post. English model Lucy Pinder has spent twenty years at the pinnacle of her field. She fucking has, son. Good post. She has. Man. Fuck. Fucking hell. Fucking hell. Who else is on those lads, Max? Come on, we got it. Kitty Price, oh, funnily enough- Katie Price has dropped out.

No, no, but Kitty Price before Kitty Price... She was the OG though, Jordan. Yeah. Wait, who was the last on X-Files? What was her name? Look at old... Gillian Anderson. She was big. Okay, but look at old pictures of Katie Price before she had a lot of work done.

Katie Price old. It's, uh, I mean, it's a shame, she's just had so much done. She doesn't even look like, uh... You wouldn't even recognize her. Alright, I got another one. Pamela Anderson. She was like, S- tier babe back in the day. Kathy Ireland as well, Sports Illustrated?

You remember Kathy Ireland? Do you remember? And Cindy Crawford. So there was, it wasn't only... the Ladsmag thing from Loaded, I guess Loaded is the last one, but, there was Loads at the time, there was Nuts, there was Zoo Magazine. Nuts, yeah. There was loads of the time. There was NUTS. There was ZOO magazine. NUTS. There was, obviously, FHM, but then there was like Maxim and stuff, but I guess it became like Men's Health, didn't it?

Or whatever. Do you know what I mean? We sort of grew up. I mean, that generation grew up, and I think the magazines they were reading turned into things like GQ and shit like that. Tech magazines. Health. Trying to be more style magazines as well,

for like these lads that had grown up but still cared about. GEOFF It was just like, if you were at uni in the late 90s, early noughties, that was the kind of shit that went around between mates, you know, you'd all read it and it would have funny jokey shit in it. There was one recipe in FHM that I still cook to this day. It was like a Spanish risotto style thing with chorizo, dead cheap to make. We ate that at university a lot, me and Mrs. F. Anyway, sorry, if anyone was offended by that lad's talk, that was us re-jigging the whole lad era.

ALICE Was Abby Clancy a... ALICE Abby Titmuss! JUSTIN Oh yeah, Titmuss. But she had a name. ALICE She did! ALICE That was an auditive determinism. But was Abby Clancy just a, like a wag, or was she a... Abby Clance? Lads Magazine model.

I've never heard of her. She's married to Peter Crouch. Oh, okay. She's a bit skinny for my tastes, I'll be real. She's very pretty. I can't remember if she was, where she sort of broke out from, though. Because before she married Peter Crouch, she was known, somewhat? Eh, she's just a, you know, monster.

I don't know what form. So, sorry, the list early news is she was in a recent one. And good for her. Yeah, man, she's still rockin' after all this time, right? She's nearly 60 years old. Well, you are a big fan, aren't you? We're all big fans of Hurley on this podcast. Lewis, you're self-included.

Or you're out. Hurley from Lost, you mean. That's the Hurley I'm all about. He's guarding that island, baby. Damn. He's definitely loaded. He's packing. Alright, this is the next email, let's move on.

This is called, New Balls Please! Brackets, tennis reference, close brackets. Right. This is called New Balls Please! Brackets, tennis reference, close brackets. Right. Is this after you complained about tennis extensively twice? No, I would say that the second was more extensive than the first. It certainly drew more ire. But also, quite a few agreements, as you'll see. I'm not gonna delve too deep, I thought this was the most balanced reply, other than fucking idiot tennis players are great or yes, you're right. They're all cunts. That was the two sides of that debate. This is from Gregor. I was just into your tennis

round in the car and was delighted when I reached a traffic jam so I could write my reply. I have played tennis since I was four years old. I'm 23 now. I agree with a lot of the things you said, however, I think you're missing some key things. I am not a Tarquin. I'm from a small town in the northeast of Scotland and come from a very middle-class family. Hated football as a kid. He's an Angus. As my parents wanted me to do a sport, they found I really enjoyed tennis and also had

some natural talent. I'd say I peaked when I was about 12 years old. And you're right, my parents had to sacrifice many weekends chauffeuring me around Scotland for tournaments etc, which I will be forever grateful for and understand not everyone has that opportunity. I met some absolutely horrible kids who seemed like they'd never been told no in their life. Sometimes they'd even push me to the point of tears with their cheating and other dirty tactics because most games at that level are self-umpired. Even worse than the kids were the parents. I've had times where I'm playing against somebody and their parent is muttering insults at me from the side of

the court, bearing in mind I was 12. This is what put me off tennis. I now only play for casual fun and a bit of exercise. I think what you're overlooking is the mental battle of a 2-6 hour 1v1. The psychological place you have to be to keep a level head and still perform as best you can is extremely tough. Oh my god, you're so right. It's a great point. When you're in that zone, nothing else matters. I'm sure it's the same for every top athlete. So if something was to go wrong, yes, people act irrationally sometimes. I know I have, but when you see these athletes out of their zone, the vast majority of the time,

there's some of the most loving and level headed people around. The anti-noise policy at the ground slams is a bit old fashioned. However, it's a tradition that has been carried down through generations, and personally I don't really see an issue with it, it's just the etiquette. If that's how it's been, and that's how they want it, why not keep it that way? I think it gives it character as well. Yeah. Yeah, if you want to shout all the time, go to a football match. That's a really interesting thing he said. I've been leaning away from 1v1 games for a while. Because, y'know, if you spend, I

guess, and it's even worse, if you spend four hours on the court or more, battling someone only to lose, y'know, that's kind of like, ugh, all that time's wasted and you're out and it's like, crushing, y'know, makes you feel... and you're exhausted, y'know, you put your whole physical energy into this thing for hours and hours and hours only to lose. Like, it must be so stressful to deal with and that must have an impact on you, right? Like, I try to avoid playing like, Warhammer these days. At least Warhammer like, 1v1. Unless there's some... Something else involved, right? Because I was finding that when I won, I would feel... Not bad for the other person, but I certainly wouldn't feel triumphant.

And when I lost I just felt a bit bad. Not always. But I think it's hard to square those things. And I think it's because so many board games now are either semi-cooperative, or you don't know who's won till the end, so you don't feel like you're competing. Imagine if you were playing tennis with someone, and you didn't know the score at any time. And right at the end they told you, like, yep, you've won. And they didn't even tell you how much you'd won by, or whatever. And so I think, in a sense, that changes the game a little bit, right? And I think you can play it for fun. I mean, he said he plays it for fun, and I think that that is good. It reminds me of One Punch Man or something being a hero for fun. I think that does take you a long way.

And also he said natural talent. I don't know whether I necessarily believe in natural talent. I think that most of the time, people who are good at things were not gifted it by God, or it didn't just happen to be luckily that they were good at it. I think every human has the potential within some boundaries. you know, if you're very tall you're going to be better at basketball. But, you know, like to be good at something that they want to do. And I think if they... You see this all the time, right? Like, so we've got this arcade machine in the office, okay, and there's like a little tournament that happens.

This is mainly instigated by Dav. Every couple of weeks. He's all over it. It was a fun idea, because it started with like, Pac-Man and Tetris and a couple of weeks. He's all over it. It was a fun idea, because it started with, like, Pac-Man and Tetris, and a couple of other games. Anyway, it got a little bit competitive in the office, and Sarah ended up winning the Tetris tournament. And then after that...

What was the prize? Was it a meter long Twix bar? I think it was like a hot dog voucher or something. Oh nice! Whatever. From Sandwich Sandwich. See, I think it was a 20 quid Sandwich Sandwich voucher. That's pretty good!

Anyway, it was not very much, it was like fun. It's like a couple of lunches, like two lunches. It was more just for fun. But everyone got, different people got invested at different levels, and she is still playing Tetris months after, kind of very, like, she felt like she was good at it, she'd gotten good at it, and she was enjoying being good at it, and then that... You could say, oh, she was naturally talented at it, right, but she'd obviously played a lot at the lunchtime, and she'd practiced, and maybe she'd gotten lucky on a run and

that'd put her in front, or whatever, but whatever situation led to her being successful, she then went away and played it more and enjoyed it more, and what you find on the internet is these little pools of people still playing a game they were successful at 10, 15, 20 years ago. Well, that's the key though. And I mean, that's what you say natural talent. And I think that it's not just this idea that somebody is just immediately gifted at something. I think it's more that they naturally tend to be good at it, but not incredible at it, but then their mind as well allows them to persist with it too, and not just give up on it, you know? It's fun enough for them to keep playing for a very long time.

ALICE It's like a positive reinforcement cycle, okay? If you win something, you feel good, which means you want to try and carry on winning at it and be the best, and then you practice more and you get involved and you join tournaments and you read forums and you talk to other people about it. You get them involved and you teach your children. You know, there was this famous guy, Laszlo Polgar... To his daughters, chess. Who, yeah, you see him on Reddit every now and then because he was like a psychologist and he had these young daughters and he taught them all chess.

He decided, I'm going to teach you all chess. And two of them are considered the best and second best female chess players in the world. I think at the time he actually said that he was going to make his daughters the first female grandmaster, something like that. And everyone was like, bullshit. And he did it. Like, he... Because they were like, no, no, no.

It's natural talent, blah, blah, blah. They might not have a gift for it. And he literally just through continual training, I don't know if that ruined their lives, these two miserable ladies now, like, I fucking hate chess, my dad made me play it every day. ALICE Well, it just, it really just depends. But I think the key thing here is that, is to stick at something. And a lot of us will- ALICE And you're more likely to stick at something, if you lot of us will... And you're more likely to stick at something if you're good at it.

Right? It's just the opposite. Yeah, it's the positive reinforcement as well. You're good at it, and therefore you probably enjoy it, and you don't take losing as hard as somebody who is inevitably just gonna give up on it, right? This is a classic thing in psychology as well with gaming, so, you know, a lot of these gaming communities, when they start getting older, all the people who are bad or feel like they're not as good, or they're losing, they drop off, right? And you end up with this... after time, you end up with

the only community interested in this game being the pros, being the real experts, being the masters who've been there for a long time, and it's very hard to break into that community as a new player. And so you saw this, just for example, on Fall Guys when it came out, right? Like, there were so many people playing and you kind of got matched up randomly originally. And what that meant was that sometimes a new player would come in, they would lose 10 games in a row and they'd quit, right? So Fall Guys had to start doing a matchmaking system to match- first of all, they would put new players with bots and they'd let the new players win ten times in a row, so then new players feel like, oh man, I'm actually really fucking good at this game, I'm brilliant,

I'll play this game all the time, this is my new hobby, I must have a natural talent for this game. And then of course they get put mixed in with people of their skill level who've only played against bots, and then later they get drip-fed into the higher leagues, not knowing if this is happening. ALICE I mean, Fortnite is exactly the same. You're describing Fortnite, like... RILEY Otherwise you can't, like... otherwise you're queer, and then they'll lose that money, right?

ALICE Yes. RILEY So this is why Steam and Valve and other big companies hire psychologists, and have done for a long time, to think about how to hook people into their game, and make more money. ALICE I had this with Dota the last time I played time to think about how to hook people into their game and make more money. It's a big deal. ALICE I had this with Dota the last time I played it, and I was stuck in Herald forever, which is like the bottom, bottom rank. I get it.

But the thing is with Dota, because it's such an old game, and like Lewis just described, most of the people who have tried it and become frustrated with it have left. There's no new players anymore. Everybody you're playing with in Herald is insane because there's so many, like, there's a lot of hidden mechanics in that game that if you're a new player and you're just starting to play, you would have no idea about. But you're in Herald with people who are meant to be the worst at the game, but they know

all this stuff. And there's no way that you can know all this stuff. If you're just coming back after years of not playing, or indeed if you're a new player, is the most off-putting game to try to get into. ALICE Not only that, but the game itself is broken down by hundreds of different heroes, all of whom have a slightly different playstyle, and roles, whether you're playing 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5, each of those has its own playstyle, and you see that the pros do specialise, right? The pros do tend to play offlane, and they will have all the offlane heroes as the ones. And you ask them to play carry, and they can

do it, because they're pros, but they won't be as good. Not even close. If you're taking a pro and you're putting him in the wrong lane, and the wrong heroes never play, you're better off getting someone who's a divine ranked puppy to go. ALICE I mean, specialist roles is one thing, but another thing that pro players definitely have more so than the average player is a heightened game sense as well, right? They'll understand the really core mechanics of the game a lot better than the average person.

And so they'll know not to overextend. They'll know all these things that like, just coming back to what I was saying, it's the expectation. When you play a game and you're new at a game and you're at the bottom rank, you're expecting or at least I'm expecting, maybe unreasonably so, I don't know, but I'm expecting to figure out the game alongside other people who are figuring out the game. I don't expect to be in the bottom rank playing with somebody who's got 3000 hours under their belt and is just stuck in that rank because the community is just old and naturally, they probably should be a higher rank, but they're stuck in the lowest because of the distribution. But either way, it sucks for a new player.

The proposition for a new player, especially in an industry that is just churning out games every week, new games that you could potentially play every week, it's a non-starter. I don't see how anybody is going to start playing these old games again. ALICE You're right. I guess, finally on this, if you are really good at something, just know that you have earned that, right? God didn't give it to you, it wasn't naturally there in your DNA, like, you earned it. And you should feel proud of that.

And maybe you didn't do it intentionally because it was just fun and it was a hobby and you put your ten thousand hours, as Malcolm Gladwell says, into something to become an expert. I think that's bullshit. The ten thousand hours. I've got a lot of hours in dotes and I'm the same fucking rank. Where's the expertise? Well, it has to be quality hours though. I'm really looking forward to this.

Fuck off. I'm really looking forward to some emails about this. But I just want to throw one spanner in the works, I'd like to see what people's thoughts are. Future Mailbag, go ahead and email him. If we're saying that there is no such thing as natural talent, or it's really not much of a factor, when you look at someone like Lionel Messi, best footballer of all time, are you telling me that all it was was, oh, he just put in more work? Or I think he just loved the game more. Or it must have been that he trained a little bit extra every day. ALICE I'd say partly, yeah. I think all those things contribute, for sure. Like, I think

naturally he probably was pretty athletic, the way he's built and everything. JUSTIN At the age of four, he joined local club Grand Ole, where he was coached by many people, including his father, through his earliest influence, who was... yeah, it's crazy. His maternal grandmother accompanied him to training and matches. He was a massive footballer from age four. And when he was very young, he was running rings around all the other kids. Running rings on all of these players. And he kept it going since ever.

He was literally the best of all time. And he never stopped from there. Which is literally the best of all time. And he never, never stopped from there. Which is gonna give him a massive head start over everyone else. All these other players train super hard. All the players at the elite level, there's not many of them that just fucking slacken off, never really tried that hard. Most of them really, this is their whole life. They always want to be a footballer, they play football since they could kick a ball.

Again football isn't just about you, it's about the other ten people on your team. Right, but we're not talking about that. And how you work with those people. In the same way as Dota. I'm sure there's pros who are actually terrible at football or Dota, but just are good in a team. Oh no, of course. There are some guys who are just not particularly talented. But the point is, they still work incredibly hard. I mean, what you could point to is that a lot of these players, everybody talks about them afterwards, he would always stay behind for an hour after training and do all these extra free kicks. Now a reasonable question is, why aren't they all doing that? Why is it just this guy? And

most of those really top players did put in extra work, did work extra hard. I know Frank Lampard was a guy who did this apparently. The weaknesses in his game, he would train to try to make them not as weak. Not exactly. They say work smart, not hard. Right. All that kind of stuff. But, it depends, doesn't it? I do think we are overlooking the fact that if you have a thousand professional footballers, that they are all working incredibly hard, some of them will still be better. And I do think some of that is down to genetic talent, the ability to, they can perceive

things quicker. Speed of thought. Being able to stay calm. That just is who you are. This is why a lot of the professional, you know, super long distance runners are from Africa. Because they have actually some genetic ability to have more endurance or... I can't remember what it is.

And there's some other things too, that different races have advantages. Of course. I mean, when was the last time a white guy won the 100 meters? Gold. When was the last time? Well, back when we probably weren't allowing black people to take part. That's the only time. So I do think it is... I won under technicality. Thank God for the year 1920. I just think sometimes we do overlook the fact that some people are just pretty naturally better at things. And we're sort of like, oh no no, it's all training, it's a really nice idea.

We all just come out of the womb as a blank slate and we can be, some people are just gonna be better at some shit. That's just the way it is. Some people are, but they are better because of reasons that are attainable by other people as well. It's not just the fact that they were born with this gift. No, they weren't just born amazing, I get it. But I do think that with the same level of training, there will still be this big spread. Of course, there will be.

And most people, it's like the, what about that curve? Everything is going to be like that. You have all these athletes, there's always going to be a top echelon. It can't just be training. It can't just be training. I'm always interested in the people that don't, like Lewis was saying early on in this conversation, you know, like people who go off and research it, like they'll read Reddit or they'll read this or they'll read the commute, they'll join the community and stuff like that. I'm always interested by the outliers of all that, you know, you will have a guy that'll come

along and it'll be like, yeah, I just, yeah, I just love the game so much, I just do my own thing. But he's really fucking good at it. And because he's just doing his own thing, nobody has a strategy for it. Because nobody's seen it. Because it's just him doing it, right? I love that idea. That there's people out there that do that kind of stuff, you know?

And then there was that guy, that Australian long distance runner, he was like a farmer, and he did this incredible endurance run, and he invented this new way of running, where he basically barely moved his arms. I'm 100% sure I was talking about him before. ALICE Yeah, yeah, he looked like he ran like a zombie. He was like, shambling. ALICE Or like he was hammered, right? But it was like, super efficient way to run, and he was just able to run all fucking day. Just run, run, run, run, run.

No one else had thought of this shit. He just came up with it. No, no, but the thing is, it works very well for him, but it might not work for everybody else. And that's the thing, when you're reading about stuff and you're trying to learn stuff to get better or whatever, sometimes it's a bit of a trap because you're reading stuff and you're like, oh yeah, no, I should do it like this and I can't really do it like that. But the way that you're not doing it might be the way that suits you better, you know what I mean? And then you could actually get ahead. But you've resigned yourself to following what somebody else has said to do, and then you're just doing that.

ALICE You do see this, often. Someone will break the meta, the mould, and they will become the top champion, and then everyone will try and copy them, and that will be the new standard. ALICE But don't you think that Messi kinda did that? Because he's got... there's things about Messi, the way that he plays, that are so unique to him, that nobody else does, or could even do, right? Like there's things that he's just learned to do over the years that work super well for him.

You don't see other players do the things that he does. No, you can't replace him. You can't be like, I'll train to play like that. So in some ways- Because his ability with the ball is just too good. You can't just copy it. Yeah. And so in some ways, I'm not saying exactly, but in some ways he's like that farmer who

doesn't move his arms when he runs. No, he is though, right? He's unique, he's doing his own thing, and it works super well for him. And it's so interesting. Messe joined Newell's Old Boys, an Argentinian sports club, when he was six years old. When he was, during the six years that he was at Newellolds, so I guess until he was 12, he was called- Good quick maths there, Ludie. He was a member of the Machine of 87, a near unbeatable youth side, named for the year

of their birth, that, and he scored almost 500 gold. Yeah. Oh, he's just training, lads, he's just training. Alright, anyway, let's move on. So, at age ten, he was diagnosed with a growth hormone deficiency, and he almost gave up, but, like, he was, he ended up giving, he was actually given growth hormone. I think we bred this kind of genetic monster. Superman!

He is deficient. He's got like Captain America. We must repair him. Captain Argentina. Put adamantium on his joints this way. Give him claws. Give him football juice every day. Yeah. Put Admanium on his joints this week. Give him claws.

Give him football juice every day. Alright, let's move on, because this has been twenty minutes. Really good. Really good. Sorry. That was a great email. I love that topic, though. I love the, uh...

It's fascinating. Yeah, it is fascinating. I could talk about it all day and pretty much I have to. Coming from three greatly talented individuals. Yeah. Alright. Well anyway, email in, let us know what your guys' opinions are, interesting studies you found, etc.

Howdy, partner! Here to spread a ladies' perspective on a very nothing argument, as you say. I'd say most people aren't outraged, this is about the Triforce Jiggle Physics discussion. I'd say most people aren't outraged because oh my god boobs bounce in video game, but rather how the tweet was written, and how this specific element needed an audience opinion. People don't play Stardew Valley, Animal Crossing, or any other cosy game to look at tits. I wouldn't say nobody, I'm sure some do. So this was a guy who tweeted, saying, counter Pam in Stardew Valley, clearly.

This was a, this developer of this game, Farmfolks, tweeted about what percentage of jiggle they were going to put on the boobies on one of the characters. Yeah. So if they want to put in jiggle physics, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. What frustrated the community was the idea that this is such an important detail to get right that it needs to be publicly shared. An audience for a cozy game does not give a shit about the boobaliciousness, great word, of their character. No. It's such an off-putting and sexist thing to discuss with a game that is supposedly

thriving on being wholesome. So yes, a funny Twitter joke about ha-ha boobs in video games is all well and good on occasion. But if you belittle the female character to only that graphical element, to a primarily female audience, then we'll get salty. So fair enough. Yeah, I get it. It's not a very funny joke and it was delivered to the wrong audience. JUSTIN Yeah, wrong audience, wrong joke.

Belongs more in bloody Ladsmag's, like, loaded and nuts! ALICE I'd be laughing my dick off at that one if I was reading that in a Ladsmag. You know? JUSTIN Indeed. This is an email from Dr. Brandon regarding those sailors on that boat. Do you remember, I was horrified that they were quote unquote trapped on the boat by bureaucracy?

I have a lot of emails about that. So this is a good one. The Baltimore Bridge Boat. So this is about the sailors and this is from Dr. Brandon. He's a Baltimorean and former sailor, US Coast Guard veteran, and wanted to point out something about the Dali sailors being trapped on the ship. A, that's the job. I've been on several months long deployments quote unquote trapped on ships. No phones because of operational security or OPSEC as he puts it. And you don't

get reception offshore. These sailors are well equipped for the monotony of shipboard life and probably do have gaming consoles and other amenities on board. B. The ship is not safely in port. The Dali needs her crew to stand watch and respond to emergencies. These ships carry vast amounts of marine diesel on board. If there is a fire or flooding it will cause colossal environmental damage. The crew is trained and able to prevent this from happening by keeping a tight watch and performing regular maintenance. I appreciate your concern for the sailors, but they are right where they need to be.

I do think they will get some time ashore now that they've got her moored. Big fan, Dr. Brandon. Thank you." ALICE Thank you so much, doctor. JUSTIN Interesting take. Thank you, on, thank you very much. I guess we felt like the ship had been in a fucking massive accident and a bridge had fallen on it, and it was in, you know, in trouble. ALICE Yeah, it was like those scenes in Star Trek where there's pipes hanging from the ceiling and sparks going off and stuff. I thought they would have brought in a professional team of police, like Navy people or something, to come, and Coast Guard people to come and look after the ship and move it safely to

somewhere where... It's like a crime scene, right? Right, but these guys are the professionals. This is their ship that they know. I thought they were just, like, chumps. I know, the impression I got wasn't... You can't call them chumps. They were just chumps.

Stuck on the ship. But no, this is the crew. But I guess they're professionals. They know what's going on here. This is a crew of a massive seaborne vessel. You can't call them chumps, they know what they're doing. I'd like to see you drive one of those things. Yeah.

Idiot. Idiot! I got the impression that there was talking that they were undocumented or something, or like, I dunno. No, they're not allowed to leave the ship, it needs to be maintained. There was a lot of casual racism being thrown around about them, I think. That they were like, not, um... Where are they from?

Sri Lanka. They were from India, I think. Sri Lanka. Maybe they should stay on the boat. Geez. I didn't know. I'm just joking. I'm joking. Oh my god. Before we continue, going online without ExpressVPN is like checking in your bag at the airport

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Alright, so let's go to this email. This was, I'm sorry, I can't find the email. You know who you are. You sent in a list of the 10 deadliest animals for humans. So the animals that are most likely to kill people. I've got the list. I've got the chart. Thank you for sending in, apologies I can't give you a shoutout because I can't find your email in my list.

But anyway, here is the list, it is the top ten dangerous animals for humans. I want you guys, you two guys, to try to name these animals, and I'll tell you their position on the rank. ALICE The top ten most dangerous animals to humans. Number one I think is gonna be, like, a snake. Some type of venomous snake. No, no, no. Snake's is number three, at 138,000 humans killed every year by snakes. Wow. That's impressive. Snake's is number three.

Okay, and then I'm gonna also say, like, a scorpion or something. Scorpions are at number six, at 3300. Wow. So this is the amount of humans killed by them? Annually, yeah. Annually, alright. Okay, so the, the, the snake is number one. And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,

and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then Scorpion or something. ALICE Scorpions are at number six. Three thousand three hundred. ALICE Wow. So this is the amount of humans killed by them? ALICE Annually, yeah.

ALICE Annually. Alright, okay, so the obvious ones that people are gonna say, like sharks and stuff... ALICE Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. ALICE Sharks are not on the list. ALICE No, sharks won't be on the list, because they just don't kill enough people, right? It'll be mostly stuff from Australia, mostly Australians dying to it out in the outback, and it's gonna be a range of spiders, snakes, scorpions...

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, slow down. Spiders are not on the list. No no, I'm just saying, I'm ranting a bit, I'm not actually guessing. But my guess of snakes and scorpions still stands. Yeah, those are good guesses. What else have you got? Okay, first of all, can we clarify... Don't say sharks, Lewis.

No, I won't. Can we clarify, like, what's killing them? Is it, like, are they being, like, is it diseases or anything like that? There is an asterisk. Okay, this is what I'm saying, because... Attached to some of these, and it says, spreads diseases. I'm gonna say the surprise one is gonna be horses. Horses is not on the list.

Okay. I'm worried about farm animals being on that list though, do you see what I mean? There are no farm animals on the list. I was gonna say horses because I thought the amount of people that ride them and there's accidents and they accidentally buck people and stuff, I guess it's just not that many. Not that many. It's really very few. Obviously the thing you always hear is the most dangerous animal isn't the shark

or whatever, it's the hippo. Right? They're at number nine. Wow, hippos! 500. 500 people, is that all? What about the dingo? Dingoes are not...

I will allow dingoes under dogs. Oh, shit. Who are at number four on the list, with 59,000, that is, diseases. That's probably rabies. And things like that. Yeah. And walk-jaw and all that. People do die of dog attacks from their pets, though.

They do. Dog attacks are crazy, yeah. It's not as common. The disease is the main one. How do we think about the other main threat to humans since prehistoric times? Bears. Bears are not on the list, baby. Not on the list, either.

No bears on there, either. So, we're missing number one and two. This is like Family Fortunes. Yeah, you're missing one and two, this is like Family Fortunes. Yeah, you're missing one and two. Alright, you'll go next then, Sip. Um, let me just think. But you had scorpions and snakes, I had hippos and bears.

Okay, scorpions, snakes. So you're ahead. You're well ahead. Hippos is on the list, dogs are on the list. We've established this as well. Um... Let me think. Oh, what about a fox?

Foxes are not on the list. What about humans? Oh, bam! Number two! Oh, what? What? Sorry. 400,000 homicides.

Oh, wait, humans you're allowed to say humans against humans? That's number two? That's number two? Number two. What animal kills more mosquitoes? Mosquitoes. Number one, with 725,000 deaths annually. What animal kills more mosquitoes? Number one, with 725,000 deaths annually, some estimates are that mosquitoes are responsible

for the deaths of half of all the humans that have ever lived. Yeah, I can imagine it, yeah. Fuck those guys. For real. Get rid of them. They are the worst! So that's number one, mosquitoes number one. Number one. We've got mosquitoes, humans, snakes, dogs. You've got those two. For real. Get rid of them. They are the worst! So that's number one.

Mosquitoes number one. Number one. Nice. We've got mosquitoes, humans, snakes, dogs. You've got those all. What do they do? You've got the top four. Okay, and then what was...

Hippos, six. Hippos was nine. Oh, Hippos nine, sorry. Scorpions were six. So we're looking for five... Oh, number five. Man, I'm impressed. Scorpions great showing.

That's great. That's impressive. I did not think scorpions were that bad. They're killing tons, way more than I thought. Yeah, good scorp- good lads. Okay, number five, jellyfish. No! Jellyfish, not on the list. Really?

We're talking deaths from jellyfish, I think it just really hurts. Injuries. We probably do kill people. Injuries from jellyfish. We're talking deaths. I don't think you're gonna get number five, I'll give it to you, I've never heard of them, assassin bugs. As the name implies.

I thought you were gonna say assassins. I was like, they're humans! NICHOLAS Yeah. There's ten thousand deaths, they spread the Chagas disease, a condition that could go untreated for years and can result in serious complications that make it life threatening. So we've got scorpions, you've got number seven, number eight, and number ten. ALICE Well that's something new to be scared of, thank you. NICHOLAS Yeah, there you go, assassin bugs.

ALICE Chagas disease. Oh god, I don't want that. NICHOLAS What's number seven, eight, and ten? ALICE Seven, eight, thank you. Yeah, there you go, assassin bug. Chagas disease. Yeah. God, I don't want that. Alright, so. What's number seven, eight, and ten? Seven, eight, and ten. Okay, seven... These are the ones that are worth all the points.

This is between scorpions and hippos, you've got these two. Think of other animals that are dinkers. A manticore. It's like a scorpion. No, not a manticore. Lion thing. Nor is the, uh, the, the, uh, what are they called? Fucking...

Ugh, Christ. I can't remember. What about ticks? Ticks are not on there. Oh man. Are there more insects, or not? No, we're out of insects. We're talking quite large animals at this point. Oh really? Quite large. Lions? Yeah. Cats? Big cats? Do they eat stuff?

No. Well, I'll allow that, lions is at number ten. So there you go. Wow! 200 deaths annually from lions. You've got two more. These animals, I would suggest, once you hear the names you'd be like, of course! ALICE They're more killy than lions. RILEY They're much more killy than lions. ALICE Okay, what about, like, uh, wait, are we lumping like cougars, panthers, like all of that, in tigers?

RILEY No no no no no no no! ALICE Okay, tigers then. RILEY No no no, no tigers. ALICE No, okay. ALICE Elephants? Do you get set on by. Elephants? Elephants are number eight. What? Six hundred deaths annually from elephants. You've got one left. It has a thousand kills a year. Sitting at number seven.

A very old animal. They're around for crocodiles. Oh man, how did I not think of that earlier? Of course, because of all the Floridians throwing themselves in their mouths. Yeah, and crocodiles hiding in people's garbage cans, and then jumping out. Surprise! And eating them. Oh my god.

That was a good quiz. Well done, man. That was a great one. Love that. That was great fun. We got most of the important ones. You did well! You guys did well!

I love talking about human spine. You guys did well. This is from Will. this is an update. Once an update on something that happened. This was seven years ago in Triforce 18. In episode 18 at roughly 36 minutes, Sips said he was gonna get rid of his garden's flower beds and, quote, turf the shit out of that garden. Fuck nature.

This was met with distraught period. I did get rid of the flower beds. They're all gone. And I said, how many years are you going to maintain this one man bee holocaust? No. You then said you had a five year plan when the kids are a bit bigger. We're going to put some flower beds back in. Yeah.

We'll have more time. Yeah. I met this with extreme doubt. This was before you had a third child. Yeah. What's the what's the deal with the flower beds? The flower beds are all gone. And we now have a vast system of pots that we grow all sorts of stuff in.

Flowers, strawberries, the other year we grew peppers, cucumbers, and everything, so I stuck to my guns. ALICE Can you grow pot? In a pot? RILEY Yes. ALICE Absolutely you can, yeah. RILEY Cool. ALICE A house near me burnt down because they were growing weed in the roof and the lights caught

by... It's so fucking cool, man. They grew some weed, man. Do you ever think about that? Do you ever think about having a little secret weed garden somewhere? Uh, no, I don't want to get arrested. Can you sing what you're about to say in the style of a Beatles song? SITTING IN MY SECRET WEED GARDEN WATCHING IT GROW. So, I don't know, was it on this podcast or somewhere?

Somewhere I was talking to someone who was, I saw it somewhere. Their job was to work using satellite footage. ALICE Oh yeah, to find hotspots to see who he is. ALICE To find find growing wheat. No no no. To find in fields, in wheat fields, because sometimes farmers would, or not even farmers, like local people would go into a farmer's field and like, cut- And grow wheat.

Like, grow wheat, like, hidden in a big cornfield, you know, so. So it was like, and you can see them from satellite, and police would identify them, because they were quite- Hey! Can I tell you, you guys watch season three of Clarkson's Farm, right? RILEY Yes. No, I haven't finished it yet. ALICE Okay, you know the bit where the guy who was

in the band is trying to do wild harvests, where he's sowing all these different crops into one field and Caleb's like, oh this is... RILEY Okay, yeah, so this isn't really a spoiler. Don't be careful, but I mean, yeah, so there's a guy from a band who's just, like, wild harvesting. Wild harvesting. Yeah. And he mentions that they sell stuff to M&S. Well, the other day, we bought some bread that was made out of wild harvested stuff.

And it was delicious. Okay. Yep. From M&S. Wild farmed loaves. Wild farmed loaves of bread. Yep. From M&S. Wild farmed loaves. Wild farmed loaves of bread. Yep. It was really good.

And it was cool to see it, because it was like, oh yeah, shit, I just saw that. And it is probably from the same guys. It's a really nice idea, because it's like, what you do is you grow multiple crops in the same field. Because we have this mono-cropping system, right? And it's not great for the soils. But what you can do is, the classic thing was the Three Sisters, do you know this? Like in Native Americans, you used to grow three crops together.

It was like, pumpkins that grow on the surface, beans that the pumpkins could sort of grow up, and then under the soil was like, I wanna say something else, beets or something? What else? Beans, beans, the magical fruit. Beans, pumpkins, and something else. Sweetcorn, climbing beans, and pumpkin squashes. There you go, that's what it was. Sweetcorn, climbing beans, and pumpkin squashes. Try saying that three times in a row, really fast.

And they grew as a symbiotic pair, right? And so- Triumvirate, surely. So you have one that, like, the beans fix the nitrogen or whatever, and then so it can always be, you don't have to have fallow planting, right? Yeah. What kind of yields were you expecting from that sort of setup? Well, I think it doesn't yield as much as the monocrop, that's the thing. So I think it's a bit frownable.

And also the difficulty is that when you have these big agricultural systems, they can't separate out the crops, right? If you've got a combine going down in, you can't do it, you either have to do it manually, or like they did on Klaus's bar. They just harvest all of it together and then that's all, it's like a mixed grain that they can make these loads out of. How do they even harvest pumpkins? They must just do it by hand, right?

Or they have like a special machine. There's probably a machine. These farming machines are like so specific. Well I know, but like, I've never seen a pumpkin harvester, though. JUSTIN I bet there's something. RILEY I bet you. It's like a weird fucking device with like, rubber glove hands or whatever. ALICE Pumpkin harvester, let's see.

RILEY And it has these like, jelly fingers and it goes out and it like, grabs them. ALICE Oh yeah, no, it looks like a, um, it's a big machine that has a gigantic wheel, it looks like a mill, like a water mill on the side of it, and sure enough, it's full of pumpkins. And then there's a conveyor belt that comes out. I mean, there's that machine whose entire job is shaking almonds out of trees, like that. I love that one.

I love that machine. Alright, let's move on. This is Music and Cities Debate. This is from Joe. We were drinking in a pub in Sheffield, The Grapes, which has a jukebox and a few articles and other paraphernalia relating to local musicians. So remember we're in Sheffield.

It got us wondering whether any city in the UK has produced more great bands and musicians than Sheffield. We excluded London from this very thorough study as frankly it's too big. And for us backwards Northern folk, it feels like a different entity altogether. All three of the four in the group are Sheffield natives. We all agreed Sheffield's the best musical city in the UK. However, the other person is from Manchester and was adamant that in fact Manchester has a superior music scene. I'm looking forward to the emails about this.

These are some of the names from bands in Sheffield. Listeners Arctic Monkeys, Bring Me the Horizon, Joe Cocker, Def Leppard, Graham Fellows, who was John Shuttleworth, aka Jill to John, Richard Hawley, classic, The Human League, which also obviously by extension Heaven 17, The Long Pigs, Pulp, also Jarvis Cocker's solo stuff, Reverend and the Makers and a band called Self Esteem, who I don't know. Right. That is the list for Sheffield.

Now I looked at the list for Manchester. Let me give you some of these names. All right. Some of these bands you might not like, but they were very successful bands. The Smiths. I mean, bam. Right out of the gate. The fuckin' Smiths. Come on.

The Stone Roses. Oasis. New Order. The Fall. Joy Division. Take that! Um, although... ALICE That's the guy, that's what the guy was from.

No. Yeah, um, New Order... Everything, everything. Darts. ALICE New Order came off the back of... was it... was it the Smiths? No, Joy Division. ALICE Joy Division, sorry, yeah, dogs. New Order came off the back of, was it the Smiths? No, Joy Division. Joy Division, sorry, yeah, it was Joy Division. The Chemical Brothers, the Courtneys, Swing Out Sister, they were good, Noel Gallagher

of course, the Charlatans in Spiral Carpets, the Verve, M People, 808 State, amazing, Morrissey, 10cc, Happy Mondays, the Bee Gees, the Bee Gees. Groove Armada. He was from Groove Armada. I think it was influence, I think Manchester wins this hand. Manchester's, I mean, that's an insane number of bands. Come on, dude. I'm not having a pop at Sheffield.

No. They're from London. Alright, the best strip club I've ever been to was in Sheffield. Was that the one with the pound coins in the pint glass? No, that was in London. Manchester is a lot bigger, though. It is, yeah. So it's like England versus Iceland, you know, it's not really a fair fight.

That's not how it works. I'm sorry. He's saying that this was the best city in the... well, what are we gonna go by population now? You've got a fucking quantifier? In that case, find the smallest town that has produced two bands, bam, they win. Because by population, no. You can compare it to Northern cities.

Yeah, it'll probably be, Sheffield Manor. ALICE Yeah, where does Coldplay come from? JUSTIN Who fucking cares? ALICE Probably Devon or something. JUSTIN The Devil. ALICE Manic Street Preachers are from Keff... ALICE Blackwood. ALICE They're from a little, um...

JUSTIN Cephillion, Wales. ALICE Yeah, Welsh, right? Yeah. I wouldn't say Manic Street Preachers are that... They're known, but they're not like mega big. A mega big band, are they? I mean, look, I will also say- A portishead from Portishead.

They're from Bristol, yeah. I mean, here's the thing, Glasgow has produced a fucking shitload of great bands. Yeah, like the Proclaimers. Bam! Actually, I don't think, I don't know if the Proclaimers are from Glasgow. No I don't know if they are either, actually. I'm on my wee. I'm on my wee. Out of this podcast.

Yeah. Iggy Pop is pretty much from Glasgow, right, because of lust for life and trans-spottings? It's a great disagree on this one. Or else this is just gonna cause problems. Alright, this is an email. You're all equally shit, Sheffield of Manchester. Wow. I've posted a video in our Discord, this is Maxwell Coffee advert, alright.

So, let me just find the original email. Maxwell Coffee? Yeah. So, hold on, let me just find the email. Is Maxwell Coffee owned by Robert Maxwell? No. I don't think so. Alright.

I found this advert for Maxwell's Coffee from 1968 that I thought was very funny. It reminded me, do you remember that clip we had where I was like, where's the goddamn mashed potato we were talking about? A guy working his factory. So watch, you guys watch this, I will then read a transcript of the advert so people know what we're referring to. I've watched it. Go ahead and watch it.

I was watching it while you guys were talking, and it is... It's a super dated 1968 Maxwell House coffee advert. These are the... It's a... The little woman, the wife, is in the house. I'll describe. This is the transcript. Our first house nearly never got built.

My wife was so bent on helping the builder. Woman, I said, leave that poor man alone and make us some coffee. Not that kind you've been buying either. Instant Maxwell House coffee. Red jar. Good to the last drop. Maxwell House. The instant that tastes like coffee. Be a good little Maxwell Housewife and we'll be happy here for a long time. Maxwell House Coffee. Instant and ground. 1968. That's not that long ago. It's gotta be one of the worst ideas for a commercial ever. I don't even know who...

But nobody would have cancelled this advert! No, no, but who even devised this? I thought it was from the 1900s, when you were saying that. No. Isn't it? It's unbelievably dated. And it's not that long ago. Wow.

Yeah, it's really, really a rough one. Be a good little Maxwell Housewife and pop a... and while you're at it, why don't you make me a sandwich? Make me a goddamn sandwich, you. Let's see where Maxwell House is nowadays. Maxwell House is owned by Kraft Heinz. So they're not going anywhere. Maxwell House is an American brand of coffee manufactured by a like-named division of Kraft

Heinz in North America and J.D.E. Peets in the rest of the world. JUSTIN It's good to the last drop. ALICE It was introduced in 1892 by wholesale grocer Joel Owlesley Cheek. It was named in honor of the Maxwell House Hotel in Nashville, Tennessee, which was its first major customer. JUSTIN Do you guys drink instant coffee? ALICE No.

JUSTIN I do not. ALICE No, you neither. JUSTIN I drink, well, I guess you could call it instant. Those little capsules you put in a machine? Oh, which ones? Does that count? I dunno. What are those called again?

Teemos? Pots? Nespressos, or whatever. The little... It's that kind of thing. Yeah, those little pods. It's a pod, right? Yeah.

It's the pod, yeah. If that counts as instant coffee, I do drink that. I guess so. But I like filter coffee as well. But it's not the grounds, like the freeze-dried shit? I don't know what's in these pods. Maybe it's just those. If I drink that coffee I usually just get like a cappuccino from Starbucks or like,

Carstar or something. I assume it's like a sealed bit of ground coffee that actually is basically like a filter coffee you're doing. It's like a one a filter coffee you're doing. Like a one shot filter coffee. God. I was in... when we were in Paris, this is crazy. We struggled because France, for whatever reason, still hates vegetarians and vegans

and everything. Some places are better than others, but when we go, it's quite tough to find just what we consider normal food, y'know? It's just a big cultural thing or whatever. But you can use Uber Eats and stuff like that to order just about anything, which is super helpful. So, I ordered two pizzas to our hotel room, this is the last time we stayed there. Guess how much I paid for two margarita pizzas and four bottles of water.

Uh, 29 pounds. Good god. Hang on. 40 euros! Wow. Which is like 37 pounds or something like that. 40 euros? Was it with the water bottles like four euros each?

It's 33 pounds. I was pretty close. Yeah. It's a lot, eh? It's expensive. Shit's expensive. For two fuckin' pizzas and four waters. I mean... I went to the pub last night,. Yeah. It's a lot. It's expensive. Shit's expensive. Two fucking pizzas and four waters. I went to the pub last night. It was £6.10 a pint. Jesus Christ, man. And and this is a point of what?

Liquid gold? Geez. Well, it was cider. So, yes, yes, true, true. I was there at the bar. I'm paying on the machine and the guy hands me the machine and I tap it. And he's like, oh, you got to do the tip first. I was like, excuse me. And there's a thing on the fucking you get the guy hands him the machine, and I tap it, and he's like, oh you gotta do the tip first. I was like, excuse me? And there's a thing on the fucking, you get a pint at the bar, it wants you to, a tip, between ten and twenty-five percent or some shit.

When did this happen? When did this fucking happen? This is what we have, this conversation about tipping, this is what I'm saying. It's everywhere. But I've never had that in a pub! In a pub! You pulled a pint, mate, it's your fucking job! What am I tipping you?

Well done! You pulled that pint, mate! It's your fucking job! What am I tipping you? Well done! You pulled that pint better than the other guy! It's a lot of places now that, I guess, I'm sure this is not a new thing, but I know I've been to a couple of restaurants recently where they just factor in the tip to the overall bill and you don't need to leave it separately. I just can't believe it!

Well, obviously, that's service charge. But that screws people over anyway, doesn't it? leave it separately. I just can't believe it. Well, obviously, that's service charge. Yeah, I mean that's very common. But that screws people over anyway, though, doesn't it? Usually, it screws the service over. But I mean, you're pressured into doing it, really. It's not the best. Well, I didn't have a choice. It was just itemised and there, but I was like, oh, services included?

And they're like, yeah. I was like, okay. I didn't even tip... I mean, it's not much of a tipping culture over here to begin with anyway, but I just, I don't know if I've ever even noticed that before. But I guess... I've got one nugget of information I want to drop while we're talking about this, it just occurred to me.

You guys know there's a YouTuber called Atrioc, I think he's a streamer as well. He does a thing called Marketing Mondays or something like that where he looks at like business news and stuff. And I watched his video the other day, it was quite funny. It was about Warren Buffett. And Warren Buffett, hugely wealthy man, it's like one of the seventh richest men in the world or something like that. He's founded this company called Berkshire Hathaway. It was originally a textiles company and he had shares in it and he wanted out because it was failing. He wanted to sell his shares. He agreed to sell them at like $11.50 or something.

When the contract came through, they changed it to $11.35. He was so angry about this, he went and bought them all out, fired a lot of them, and turned the company into a holding company that just buys other companies and shares in other companies. That's right. And now Berkshire Hathaway is absolutely enormous. So the other day, he went from being one of the richest men in the world to losing everything because of a glitch in the New York stock exchange software that crashed the system so badly, the shares went from $600,000 a share, is what they're trading at, to peanuts. Because what happens is all these automated trading systems just fucking copy each other and they all fucking sell on the price plummet. They wound it all back, of course, but I thought that was quite funny. But he then talked about Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper

has become the number two drink in America. His coke, and then Dr Pepper. Do you know why Dr Pepper comes in a bottle? This is gonna be a joke, but go on. Because his wife died. That's really tragic. Yeah. But they're number two!

And apparently they've marketed really well, and I thought, Pepsi is the Burger King of beverages, right? It was big in the 80s, Burger King was doing great, it was competing with the big boys, very hype. It's shit. Pepsi is so shit that my friend was in a restaurant, and when he said, can I have a Pepsi please, instinctively, the server said, is Pepsi okay? Like, we don't have a chance.

Like, literally, you don't have the chance. Like, literally, you don't have a chance. You know Pepsi, um, the company Pepsi. That should be their name also. Is Pepsi okay? Lean into it. Lean into it. I think Pepsi, the company Pepsi, is actually bigger than Coke. Coke is the more popular cola, but Pepsi- Oh, Pepsi-Co is enormous, right? Pepsi-Co is massive. It's insane.

I don't know if they're bigger than big. They are. I think they are because they own lays. They own Walker's crisps as an extension. So all their food and everything. It's fucking wild. How what do you think Pepsi co's revenue? Not their not their profit. Their revenue was in 2023. Oh my god, like hundreds of billions. So Lewis says ten billion, you're out by a factor of nine. It was 91 billion dollars in revenue in 2020. Yeah, they're like, Disney-size, these companies are fucking huge. Oh, what, revenue? Yes, revenue, that's why I said revenue five times.

Revenue is just how much is brought in. Yes, that's why I said revenue. So Coca-Cola, half that. 45.8. So you're right. Pepsi-Co, how many times have they lost? Pepsi-Co, it's all food, catering, like snack food, way more than Coke has. Coke does have a lot, don't get me wrong.

The Coca-Cola company... They ain't struggling. They own tons of different drinks that you'd never even think. Like Innocent Smoothies, for example, is Coca-Cola. Right, right. But Pepsi, it's all like the food side catering. Everything is fucking wild. It's huge. I've got one final email. Sorry, go ahead. These are the kind of things Berkshire Hathaway always invested in, right? He was like, well

look, Coke's not going anywhere, you know, Heinz isn't going anywhere, you know, these things are the classic things that got Berkshire Hathaway to be as big as it was, right? Investing in staples and Apple as well, that's the big thing. I think they've had almost a quarter of Berkshire Hathaway stock for the last 20 years has been Apple. I mean, it might have changed recently. It was very... Berkshire H he said he'd invest in America. You know? Right. Man, when, when, when Disney bought Pixar, finally bought Pixar, Steve Jobs was like

one of the biggest, as a result, Steve Jobs was one of the biggest Disney shareholders after the, after the acquisition, which I mean, he was already fucking rich, but like, Jesus Christ. I mean, that's insane. All right. This is our last email for the mailbag for this episode. And this is, I read this to Sips before we went live because I thought it was so funny. Yeah, this is good. I have heard it, but it is good. All right. This is from Lars. I work as a GP, out of hours, ambulance driver in Doernedelens. This means I drive a doctor to and from patients who can't come to the GP's office.

We do this in a small ambulance, but still with sirens and stuff if necessary. Rarely is. While driving back to our post, we stumble upon a road traffic accident. We are obliged to check if everyone's okay, so we stop. An actual full-size ambulance arrives shortly after. Turns out one of the drivers that had the accident needs to be cut out of the vehicle by the fire department. While waiting, I'm chatting with the ambulance nurse lady who's about my age and, dare I say, extremely attractive.

We're standing next to the car and I notice the SIPs, Side Impact Protection System, sticker on the car the guy has been cut out of. I chuckle and say, Sips, immediately thinking about Sips and the podcast. I instantly realise that the ambulance lady wouldn't understand and, embarrassed, I start to say, oh, it's just some podcast, until she interrupts me with one of the best things a man can hear. I have a massive cavernous gaping vagina. Now, could you imagine? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Jumpfounded by the line and extra tidbits she added, I stood in silence for a few seconds. Before I can say anything, the firemen are done and we quickly tend to the guy in the

car. Then I get a call on my radio telling me to go someplace with urgency. We leave the ambulance people to tend to the person and we leave before I could get her name or number. If you are listening, Saskia, I'd love to explore your caverns. So maybe hit me up. I work at the hospital in the city we met, maybe you can swing by sometime. Saskia, you know what you gotta do! Let's make this love connection happen! Come on! Oh my god. A man with a tiny penis, and a woman with a gay vagina? A match made in heaven.

Very open. Wow, that is great. Could you imagine? I think, the thing is, your silence and lack of response may have made her think, oh no, what have I just said? What have I just said? Well, now she knows! Now she knows!

He was just, he wasn just... Could you imagine? You really have to be confident that you're talking to a fellow Triforce listener to go with that. It would have been even funnier if he'd be like, I'm just a fan of the side impact protection stuff. I think we need some flavours for some of this stuff too, though. I think it would be really funny to be approached by someone in public and then do their best Prince Charles and describe their penis as frightfully small, ghastly. I have a frightfully small ghastly penis.

Ghastly carbon cleavage. Yes. We want some posh interactions. We want some very posh people with very small deformed penises to make themselves known. That was a good mailbag. Thank you guys for emailing in. Lots of nice topics to cover today. As usual, I feel like we fixed the whole universe again. We fixed the universe, but I am not accepting musical entries anymore, please.

Unless you have recorded them yourself. And I have a couple of those... Or they're just like exceedingly, exceedingly good. Most of them are not. They're just AI, and it's just the same shit, because the AI is very limited. But there was a lad who sent in an actual recording that he did, I'll play it on the next podcast. Okay. Yeah, that'll be good.

Excited. Yeah, we might not have a podcast. We might miss a week, so I'm on holiday, but you never know. We might be able to cover it if you're lucky. So thanks everyone. Thank you so much. And we'll see you next time. See you then. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Goodbye.