Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 148: End Times of Something

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

Another seminal week in the late-era American republic, with all of the grotesqueries and monstrosities you would expect to find in such a situation. Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

I'll give you fair warning, too. There will probably be some, like, hammer clanks and some saw stuff kicking up from the basement. Do you got those guys down in your basement fixing your... Dodging? Clogged? Yeah, and they're never leaving is what they don't know. No one comes in, no one goes out. That's right.

Sorry, boys. Once you've stepped into my bubble, you're not leaving. You're here for 14 days at least. Call your other appointments and cancel. Yeah. I'll feed you. You can shit and piss in this little bucket I give you. I remember watching when I was a kid.

My mom used to watch soap operas and uh and i remember this one episode i don't even know what soap opera it was but the premise was this woman like kept another woman in her basement for like a long time and would like take her food and stuff i remember that shit dude that was uh was that the guy was that the guiding light or days of our lives was it when reba cloned herself was it her clone she's keeping her clone in the basement i forgot reba did clone herself what show did reba mcintyre no reba from uh god and light i mean the only storyline worth a shit is tabitha and her little baby doll no herself and kept the clone in the basement tanya you're wrong about that you're forgetting one good one okay lay it on me when marlena was

possessed by the devil oh i don't even know that one did they do it go back and revisit the thing i love so much about soap operas is like soap operas don't jump the shark like they're just perpetually shark jumped you know that's how they start out yeah they just start they start from the jump the shark position i love that they they air every day but soap operas were kind of like the era of covid time meant nothing yeah like yeah storylines weaved on for years at a time yeah well three weeks of daily episodes would go by and it'd still just be one day except they'd change clothes a few times yeah they like everybody's noticeably

aged yeah wow i'm impressed you guys have a memory of it. I tried to tune it out when it was on. Well, Guideline came on at 3 o'clock, and I got off the school bus at like 325, so I'd always catch the last half hour with my mamaw. My mom would always try to help me with my homework, but her attention would be on the Guideline while I was trying to get her to help me out with my math problems. Right, like that was what was on when we got home. Yeah.

That's a 9mm bullet I'm holding up to the camera, my friends. Dig it out of your ass this morning. I dug it out of my tight asshole. Caught. No, it wouldn't have survived that tight hole. It would have exploded exploded i'm no medical doctor but this doesn't seem part of the protocol if i'm guessing stick this bullet up your tight ass man yeah see if you make a penny

yeah it turns to currency that you could spend. I am a federal, I'm a central bank now. If you put your bullets in my asshole, they'll come out as pennies. You'll be a rich man. If you shoot my asshole. Shoot me right in the asshole. Terrence just stops bullets with his asshole. I could stop it.

You could shoot a gun in my asshole and it would stop. Instead of laying out in front of a bullet, Ter bullet Terrence just bends over from a bullet to take one for his friend unpenetrable yeah it's like shooting a gun underwater or whatever it just goes like three inches and just stops there is a

specific so I found this on the walking trail because there's a guy who walks on the walking trail every day with a fucking loaded gun why though i have no idea he's like the motherfucker up here shooting goddamn propane tanks behind my house well people have used the pandemic as an excuse to be even more beefed up and armed up like beefed up with weapons at all times you know um but so there's this guy but there's a there there is a specific type of guy on the walking trail who is more alpha than any other male i've ever seen i know who you're talking about i am referring of course to the and no this is an archetype oh but you probably know who i'm talking about but this is also an archetype

it is the guy who runs in jeans guys who jog and run in jeans. You know what I'm talking about? Man, I don't even know what kind of energy that even is. That's a whole together. I mean, that's like, you know, growing up in the housing projects, you would see that. I would see guys, it would like, you know, they would be doing their workouts with jeans and no shirt on. Like doing pull-ups on the like the playground have to be exposed yeah

i just i just thought it was poverty but there's guys that actually do that yeah man like there's this guy who runs on the walking track with jeans and he's got his cell phone in his pocket and it's usually playing like john, John Cougar Mellencamp or something. Amazing. Ain't that America? Is he, like, the younger dude? I mean, he's probably in his 40s. He's probably, like, 10 years older than me or so.

Oh, okay. So I was thinking, I thought you were talking about that little badass kid that all the time walks around blaring music. Oh, no. you're talking about that little badass kid that all the time walks around blaring music oh no well terrence i mean the man's got jeans on because if you stay ready you don't have to get ready good point tanya he's fucking ready excellent point excellent point um no it's important to be ready these are dangerous times you got to be ready at all times well you got to be ready to at a moment's notice you have to regulate you know what i mean and i'm tired of not regulating honestly i'm tired just talking about we need to start regulating uh yeah i agree tom totally totally we know their faces we're probably already got their addresses yeah

um it occurs to me this the show has become so serialized like a soap opera that you would not know the story behind my tight asshole if you hadn't subscribed to the Patreon. So, you're just going to have to subscribe to the Patreon if you want to learn why he can stop bullets. Here's a little $10 tip.

It's a medical condition that you want to know about. You need to know about it. The general public needs to know about it, in my opinion. People would pay good money for this. For this medical condition that Terrence got for free. I agree. I agree.

The diagnosis. Yes, you're right. Yeah. Well, welcome to the show this week. You know, it seems to me like in the last few months we've had a few episodes that we have prefaced it with. We're recording on one of the most seminal weeks of the late republic. of the most seminal weeks of the late republic we've had we've had a few like that you know like when oil went below the price of zero who could forget that one right when they held a pandemic they held a primary in the middle of a pandemic

who could forget that one who could forget that one but i have to say that this week is honestly i i i can't remember a time in recent memory when i saw like the contradictions heightened to the degree we are seeing this week what's that i said quite like what we're seeing yes yeah so um so let's just start with the basics, shall we? Let's start with our home state of Kentucky, right? Good place to start as any. Good place to start as any. Our week in Kentucky started out with a group of right-wingers hanging the governor, Andy Brashear, in effigy on the lawn of the governor's mansion.

An act described by at least one small town police chief as an act of domestic terrorism. Interesting. Hung him out to dry. Right on his own yard. Right. Yeah, that was on Sunday. That was on Sunday, yard. Right. Yeah, that was on Sunday.

That was on Sunday, yeah. And then Andy didn't make an Andy message on Monday, but on Tuesday he came out and was meekly like, Now you guys cut that out. Don't do that anymore. I will not be afraid. I'm not going to take it. Like, he could have earned my vote again

if he would have just said that shit was kind of fucked up. Now, Tom, what he needed to say was, boys, it's on site. If he said, boys, it's on site, I'd campaign for him. Truly. He said, I wasn't even home on Sunday, and I think you

knew that. Show up on a day I'm home, it's on site, motherfuckers. Say, boys, if you're going to shoot at the, if you're going to take a shot at the king, you best not miss. If he said some, like, gangster shit like that, I'd be way into it. I'd be his bodyguard.

I'd catch all the bullets coming at him with my asshole. But I don't like his howdy-doody shit. I won't be afraid. Well, now we're all in this together, now I thought. What I love is that it's Memorial Day weekend, so while we got a handful of Yankee Doodle Dandies hanging Governor Effigies in the lawn, I feel like the rest of Kentucky was on vacation at the beach.

Partying, baby. Just literal parties everywhere. Everyone's just partying, cooking out. Just a million COVID parties this weekend. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. The death march. Oh, yeah.

I mean, to be fair, it was a beautiful day. And I even said that. I walked out on the porch. I was like, if this was normal times, it'd be a great day to barbecue. And then I looked across the way and there were just people barbecuing. Well, okay. Obviously, they don't give a shit. But no, so these right-wingers hung the...

So, like, what was the thing behind that what i mean what was this was it the face masks was it uh he wasn't reopening things fast enough it's hard to tell because the motherfuckers about reopened everything i thought almost everything had reopened by the 22nd which was like two days before this yeah or maybe there's some stuff opening on monday for the first time. I guess it's the masks. They don't want to wear masks. Protesters protesting having to wear masks. I'll be honest.

I'll be honest with people. A tiny fucking piece of cloth over your mouth and nose. God damn it. I won't fucking stand for this. Listen, I don't like to wear condoms, you know what I'm saying? But occasionally, I do, you know, mostly in situations where it'd be embarrassing for me not to. But, you know, sometimes you got to do what you got to do for public health, you know?

That's just one man's opinion. My dollar store clerk still ain't wearing a fucking i asked him i was like why aren't you wearing a mask my man is it not required he said oh yeah yeah we're supposed to but i just can't do it well that's that's the thing because now they're saying now they're you know they're saying well we're reop, but you have to wear a mask. But in their minds, it's a totalitarian reach. More than that, it's a virtue signal, right? Yeah. To them, it's just a signal that you're just like a pussy or something.

Yeah. Like, you saw this. Go ahead, Tom. I was going to say, what's funny about that is he said, oh, we're supposed to, but I can't. I hope he meant, like, not like it fucks with his breathing or something, but that, like, by order of the local three percenters that he actually cannot or they'll beat him up. They show up every day. They show up every day just to make sure I'm wearing my mask, not wearing a mask.

Tom, you joke, but that's like for real the truth. And it's not even three percenters. Like I read this article in the New Yorker yesterday about this county in Washington State where the sheriff's office was like, you know, doing one of those we're going to take a stand against tyranny things. They're always doing. Yeah. And the sheriff's office in my home county in New Mexico did the same thing.

They posted something like, we will no longer be enforcing shutdown orders. They did this back in, like, April. But sheriff's offices are now, you know, they're linking up with the three percenters, et cetera. They're like, we're not going to be enforcing shutdown mask wearing you know that shit it's like the local cops are doing that or right or riding with the three percenters the sheriffs is really it i mean like cops are their own there is a weird demarcation between sheriffs and cops because like especially in like rural places because like sheriffs are like these they've fashioned themselves as these kind of like gary cooper you know last man standing upholding the constitution yeah i mean strong they are

clinging to an outlaw history totally yeah well i mean man terrence talked about this the other day like the a-cab movement could benefit if we just got rid of like the antiquated like police professions like the vestigial organs of like old english society like sheriffs and constables and shit like that like let's just start there and get rid of all those motherfuckers yeah totally useless i mean in particular even in letcher county like i just know from like talking to ty and them like the sheriffs actually don't even patrol after a certain time they don't have jurisdiction certain places it's literally like a power position yeah i mean in letcher county particular we were talking about this last night too it's kind of like uh i mean ledger county is kind of the wild wild west after like five o'clock

because no one's on duty nobody's patrolling i swear let me tell you how easy it'd be to rob a cop unless there's a fucking state cop around right and there's usually like one of those here's how easy it'd be to rob a bank in Letcher County. You'd have to make friends with whoever's dispatching and tell them, conspire with them and say, Hey, send the state police unit to somewhere far out in the county. Like maybe like where it borders like Virginia all the way over there on the Jenkins side. And then when that happens, go knock over a bank at fucking Isom. That's Boyd Crowder tactics, man. It would be literally the next day before they could find you.

I mean, you don't even have to befriend a fucking dispatcher. Just send one of your boys to UZ to set off a fucking car bomb or some shit. A decoy. You just need a fucking decoy because there's one fucking cop i don't really know what sheriffs do but i do know that ours got in trouble for running guns and not just any guns they were like revolutionary era uh antique guns no i thought they were guns that they had confiscated they were all like evidence locker shit they were selling.

No, what it was was that the Veterans Museum had, and this was, to be honest, this was never confirmed, to be fair. Yeah, this was a rumor I always heard. I'm conflating two things. But it happened. I mean, the guy went to jail. Something happened. No, nobody went to jail. What happened was that

the veterans had all these like sort of antique like war trophies i guess like like hitler's rifles and shit or something i don't know and like they were worth a bunch of money and they were i guess the story got woven that they were in the basement of one of the funeral homes i think ledger funeral home being kept by somebody yeah the funeral and they were like and they were using the sheriff's office to like find buyers for them in places like indiana and illinois what that's running guns right so that's how they weaseled out of it saying Saying that they were. I guess there's no two ways around that, Terrence. See, that's running guns. They were running guns. But again, all this is unsubstantiated.

That mother. I thought one of the sheriff's deputies went to jail. When's the last time a fucking cop went to jail for anything? I swear he was on the cover of the paper, Tom, like five or six years ago. That was Brian Dameron. That was a drugs thing. Oh, yeah. Okay, you're right. Yeah, that's because that was brian dameron that was a drugs thing oh yeah okay you're right hey that's because he was pulling people over and just taking the drugs and

just and then going selling them just and using them right in front of them just fucking throwing all the pills back immediately as soon as you like to get wet shit but um that reminds me like i think if you think if you call yourself a tea partier and you're one of those dipshits that hangs, like, tea bags off your hats and stuff and, like, wants to uphold the Constitution. Wait, wait, do people do that? Has your friends put his nuts in your eye sockets? Yes, you should have to have your friend put his nuts in your eye socket. have your friend put his nuts in your eye socket and you should have to fight your glorious rebellion against the government with revolutionary era musket loader and your friend's balls in your eye socket yeah you just all you smell ball juice at all times oh god that sounds dope i love i'd

love that i'd love to smell ball juice yeah if you're so much of a Second Amendment homer and all that stuff, you know. I'm a Second Amendment purist in the sense that not only do I believe... You have to use period-specific weapons. Yes. That's how much of a purist I am. The rest of us can use whatever guns we want but if you're you're actually a second amendment guy you have to use muskets and like that kind of shit yeah um well so there was this they they hanged the governor in effigy and so there's this

woman and you they hung a big uh sign on it what the sign say terrence oh what did the sign say it was some it was some weird simp or something i thought it was what did it say they call him a simp governor simp simp what or sorry did we get slowed down for a minute yeah i think so sorry i thought you said that it was i thought you said that the sign said simp yeah something like that no they weren't calling him a simp i wish that would have been great no it was some you you know, bullshit. I don't know. The governor said that it's what Abraham Lincoln's assassin said when he shot Lincoln. That's what the governor said. Really?

Yes. You didn't see this? No, I didn't. Hold on. It was like Latin or something. Just like one of them stupid fucking. Oh, they love that shit. Yeah, they fucking love that, they love that shit. Yeah, they fucking love that.

They love that shit. Hanging sign. Hanging sign effigy. My Googles recently are fucking batshit crazy. Me trying to get information about what the fuck's going on. Don't make a link. It said... Oh, it said sick simper tyrannous.

Like the Virginia state motto? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I think it means like death be the tyrants or some lame shit. The funny thing is that like Kentucky isn't even that, like our lockdown has been probably middle of the road there's some states that have been very strict like watch Washington there's

some states that have been very lax like North Dakota Mississippi ours is kind of like right in the middle it's like really not that fucking intense not very draconian yeah go to the park have a good time with your family just make sure you stay about six feet away from everybody yeah all the fucking restaurants are still open you can still order fucking food

well they want their goddamn haircuts that's what they want and they don't want to wear masks they want to be served they need service they need to be served by underpaid workers. Yeah. Well, it's the thing that it's like, and this is not an original point, but it's just that they are so accustomed to having the freedom of consumption. And this is, like, I was trying to explain this to Tom, because earlier this week I was not doing well.

I was, like, really, I was black peeling pretty hard. It was not good. What changed? Was it the water cannons that bring you back? Maybe we'll get to that. For the time being, suffice it to say, I was black peeling pretty hard. And the reason why is because I really do feel, I feel like the vitality of human existence has just been sapped out of fucking everything. And the reason why is consumerism. It's just high consumerism.

Like, that is our God now. You see it every day. Like, when they're talking about sacrificing people to the stock market. That is supposed to be our religion now. And that is why these people are freaking out. Because they no longer have the freedom to consume. Yeah. That is true.

Along those lines, I was... What's that noise? What is that noise? That's the aforementioned basement. That's Tom's dungeon. Let us out! Let us out! Keep it down down there now.

I'll slide some food under the door in 45 minutes. You know lunchtime's at 1. What was I saying? I was about to make a goddamn point. We were talking about consumers. Oh. I feel like throughout this period, every day something happens where I'm like, well, it can't get any crazier than this.

happens where I'm like well it can't get it can't get any crazier than this like you know I'm like I can't I can't be any more estranged from reality than I am right now and then talking about consumerism those videos dropped of all those local news reading the Amazon script you see I didn't see this you didn't see see this? No, what was it? No, what was it? Dude, there's like a Amazon stockholders meeting this weekend. So this week, hundreds of little local news anchors read the exact same Amazon script that was sent to them. They put in a little Amazon story.

And somebody synced them all up of reading the exact same script so it was like dozens at the same time reading the exact same script millions of americans during a pandemic have turned to amazon and it was the most dystopian shit you didn't see this no i didn't this is fucking nuts oh god it well yeah i see it amazon gave tv stations coronavirus propaganda and they aired it oh yeah they very very uh sorry to bother you yeah yeah absolutely they just fucking copied and pasted and then i mean didn't they think that they just sent one little, they sent the same script to hundreds,

maybe thousands, fuck, I don't know. Who knows? Well, we got one in our inbox. Let's go ahead and read our prepared statement. Let's go ahead. Yeah. About this little, fuck, this little, oh, God damn. That's nuts. about this little fuck this little oh god damn how amazon posturing themselves as the savior of

covid 19 yeah and it was just so bleak well yeah i mean like it's crazy that during so many insane things have happened just in the last couple weeks bezos was um wasn't he the planet's first trillionaire he was declared the first trillionaire during a fucking he did he hit trillionaire status supposed to be about 2026 oh he made 28 he's made 28 billion since the start of the pandemic i mean so he's project he's got a trillion i got so much better he's got a trillionaire projection he's the first person to be projected to be a trillionaire is that what you're saying yeah yeah that's fucking insane now like if you're adjusting for inflation i think like like one of the kings from molly in like you know five fifth century bc is like supposed to be the

richest person that ever lived in like john d rockefeller's in that conversation a couple others but pretty wild crassus from the rome he was in the room bernie sanders yeah he's got that vacation cabin, motherfucker. Yep. They got a vacation cabin. Oh, shit. So there was that. I mean, so you've got the week just started off with more of the same.

And by that, I mean White House officials going on TV and saying, well, we need to get our human capital stock back to work. And then you've got right-wingers protesting their inability to consume in however way they wish to now. I mean, this is ultimately what they mean by six-simper tyrannists. They don't mean their liberties are being infringed upon. Nobody's rights or liberties are being infringed upon nobody's rights or liberties are being infringed upon except like black people and queer people you know what i mean like people who are

actually oppressed but these people are just they are for the first time experiencing not being able to buy whatever the fuck they want discomfort this is their hospice moment they're being told no for the first time in their life they're being told no for the very first time and they're not on their deathbed so they have a reaction it's disorienting for them um and so you know there's that you've got these like in kentucky we've got this like batshit insane representative named like savannah maddox, who is, you know, she's been stoking the fires saying that we didn't need to close down at all. And she's been out rallying with these motherfuckers. Yeah, she's been out rallying with them. Tanya, we lost you.

Are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Tanya. Yes. Hello. Tanya. Hello. Hello? Tanya. Hello, hello? Sneeze twice if you're still with us.

Hachoo! Hachoo! Is somebody taking you? Blink three times. Say something here. I want you to say a couple things. Just tell me whatever's around you right now. A pile of bloody wet tissues.

I think we lost her, bro. her bro what really you can't hear me damn where are they taking you to damn where are they taking you to time well yeah i think what she was going to say was that this woman's been rallying with the white supremacist like my favorite shit is when right-winger politicians like pose with white nationalists and they they really genuinely i think don't know that they are posing with one yeah they think they just have fans they think it's like anybody gives a fuck who savannah maddox is is and so it's just like she's been getting pictures of like white nationalists throwing the white national symbol in their hand or whatever yeah he wanted me to say hey okay he wanted me to give him three goggles i mean these people are shameless And they're psychopaths Obviously They know that their politics

Is amenable to literal Nazis Yeah But Give a shit But I do have to hand it to Our representative Angie Hatton She put forward A motion to censor her

Censure her? Oh, so she was acting up inside the house? Well, fuck it all. Or did you say censure? Censure, yeah. Oh, I thought she said censure. Okay, censure. I was like, you can do that?

You can get somebody to shut up? I think censure is when you slap somebody on the wrist for doing a naughty. Yeah, they get some sort of penalty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have to usually apologize or something. They spank her a little bottom in front of the whole house. They take you up on the dais or whatever. Don't want you talking to them bad men no more.

Don't taking pictures with them, you see? So there's been all that going on, which is all fucked up. But yeah, I don't know. Should we wait for Tanya before we get into the... Let's pause for a second until she gets a chance to getanya before we get into the let's pause for a second till she gets a chance to get back all right let's let's pause all right i gotta pee anyway so okay oh Mama come and take this man's job to me

I can't use it anymore so I'm knocking on her door Just like so many times before Mama's coming Put my guns in the ground I can't use them anymore It's getting dark and dark to see I feel like I'm knocking on heaven's door I can't use them anymore

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Okay, so we're all back and accounted for. So we covered Savannah Maddox, etc. She needs to be tarred and feathered. Well, you might have missed this, Tanya, but she got censured by Angie. Angie Hatton? She did. Yeah. Oh, what'd Angie do?

Censured her. What the fuck does that mean? That means they take her out in front of the Capitol, and they spank her little bottom and tell her not to take pictures with bad men anymore. Well, I am sorry I missed that. She's become like a national icon, though. And maybe every state has a Savannah Maddox.

I have no idea. I would be willing to bet that they do. Yeah. Because have no idea. I would be willing to bet that they do. Yeah. Because this is America. But she's become kind of like a national icon. They're trying to get her to run for governor against Bashir. Oh, my God.

2023 or whatever. Where is she a rep for? Where does she live? I think Boone County. Do you know where that is? Northern Kentucky. Of course she's a fucking Northern kentucky northern kentucky she's from cincinnati it's a fucking cincinnati gal no god i don't know if i know it's just the it's just the worst man isn't isn't savannah maddox the one like at the start of the coronavirus stuff she was like

like she was coming out saying like the craziest batshit stuff about it yeah well she she refuses to take a vaccine if they have one she's like she's already virtue signaling against a vaccine good good go with that instinct. And, yeah, and she thinks that, like, shutting everything down was, you know, worse than letting everything continue because people are unemployed. I mean, it's really weird to see a right-winger criticize the governor for not getting unemployment benefits out fast enough. But that's what she's doing. She's saying that Bashir has fumbled the unemployment distribution.

She is right to a certain extent, but every state has because there's 40 fucking million unemployment claims. Is it 40 million? unemployment claims. Is it 40 million? Yeah, there was 2 million more this week which ticked it up to 40 million total. Holy fuck. So this is the portrait of America we are working

with here. 40 million people unemployed, that we know of. Roving bands of right-wing militias taking over state capitol buildings and the police just standing there and being like whatever armed to the teeth literally strapped with assault rifles on their backs right just like not yet exactly not just like little fucking pea shooters or or handguns we're talking yeah automatic weapons

that could mow down dozens of people in a minute um i mean maybe that's why the cops ain't fucking with them they're afraid of them good good point tanya that is an excellent point i mean i love how tanya just cuts right through to the right analysis every time let's not let's not even tee it up and kick it around let's just get right to it let's get right to it well and so and so in the middle of all that you've got two massive disruptions one in los angeles and one in minne Obviously, the one in Minneapolis was more intense. But in both cases, the cops cracked down hard on protesters. And so, yeah, we're recording this on Thursday, the morning after the most, I don't know,

after the most, I don't know, the most intense sort of like urban rebellion that we've seen at least in like four or five years since like Baltimore maybe, you know. Yeah, I was thinking since Ferguson. And I mean, so I mean, so yeah, maybe this is a good entry point into this story. So, I mean, so, yeah, maybe this is a good entry point into this story. So, I mean, this is a little, it's very difficult to talk about, but it is something that needs to be talked about because we have to be able to face the horrors of our times. But there's this video that came out of a police officer murdering this guy named George Floyd.

I'm sure you've probably all heard about it at this point. And I was laughing with Tom the other day. Laughing in a very morbid way, obviously. But I was talking to Tom about this yesterday. I've got friends from high school. I've got this one friend from high school who was an outspoken conservative when we were in high school. Supported the Iraq War, opposed abortion and all this stuff and and i saw her posting about ahmaud arbery of like two weeks ago and i was like wow maybe she's maybe she's coming around but it hasn't

said jack shit about george floyd and so it's just an interesting contrast like it's fucked up when it's just a couple of random hillbillies that are doing it. But when it's the cops, like, no, not touching that. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's been a very interesting contrast. Also, the circumstances. Like, he was just out for a jog and then got murdered by two, you know, whatever, hillbilly dudes or whatever.

Like, that is, like, but you can can't ever the cops can't ever be on par with just two like racist like you know murderer dudes like they have like some level of standing no matter you know what they're reasoning and george floyd i mean of course he uh fucked around and wrote a bad check so yeah no it was very much like the Eric Garner thing. It was something completely innocuous. Selling smokes on a straight corner. And the check wasn't even bad. Yeah. He was just accused of writing a bad check.

Yeah. But I watched the video. I guess it would have been Tuesday night, you know. And it made me feel sick to my stomach, obviously. It's awful. But it is fascinating. And I don't know if I was talking to you about this yesterday, Tom, but if you watch the video, it is a very fascinating glimpse into police activity.

Because what happens is he has his knee on george floyd's neck and there is a point at which he disassociates literally like he realizes and everybody else does too the crowd that's gathering around realizes that floyd is dead and and so the guy i think his name is derek chauvin or something he he just keeps his knee there but he sort of hovers it over him like he knows that the guy is dead and so there's no longer any point to keep the knee on the neck but he just sort of stands there awkwardly in this disassociated sort of state where he has to pretend to the crowd that he's still legitimately doing this and so then they bring in a gurney and go through the whole spectacle of putting him on a a gurney and he's obviously dead like the guy had checked his like pulse before that yeah yeah yeah no i mean it's

obvious that he's dead but the cops are all pretending that he's still alive right it's very fascinating i mean it's it's incredibly disturbing you know i mean you're witnessing someone literally die right um it is very disturbing but it is also this very i don't really know how to put it it was just like a glimpse into the sort of cop psyche in the sense that like i'm not sure the cop went into that situation well i don't know he is a killer cop he's killed before hasn't he i think i saw something today that klobuchar refused to uh seek charges on him for two separate killings before this yeah yeah as prosecutor she's never she never prosecuted a cop not once that ticket is fucked just as little a side i don't have to tell anybody listening that

but um you think biden's gonna go with klobuchar's vp not a chance in hell now i don't think god damn so blatant yeah well so you know fast forward to later that day, later that night, you know, the video goes out. This is Tuesday night and people start protesting. The cops meet them with just unbelievable force. You know what I mean? Just shooting the blast balls at them, shooting tear gas at them. These are people who aren't with, who aren't armed with AR-15s and aren't threatening to storm Capitol State Houses. Literally empty-handed. Yeah.

And so you have this contrast. Again, you have another contrast of, like, who the police will sort of enforce and who they won't. Who they'll police and manage and who they won't who they'll police and manage and who they won't. And so then the people of Minneapolis responded the next day by just totally fucking just ransacking like the 13th. I think it was like the 13th precinct. Fucked it up. Just just fucked it up. Just fucked it up.

It was the shit. I mean, have we ever seen this before? I mean, I've been trying to think, like, I mean, it was bad in Baltimore after Freddie Gray, but I don't know if a precinct...

They did occupy a precinct in Minneapolis after Jamar Clark was killed. In like 2015, they occupied it. They didn't just torch it and destroy it. I mean, I've definitely seen a lot of fucked up cop cars. Like fucking up a cop car. But I had not personally seen the fucking up of a precinct. I haven't either.

Go ahead, Tonya. Sorry. No, yeah, you go ahead. It was something to behold. No, I mean, it was straight up. You had block-wide fires. you know block wide fires you know it was i was reading the the police blotter though you know and just reading like the cops sort of um response to it you know yeah something kind of crazy about that is that at some point last night i was trying to track it best i could they said that the um scanners went black

like went dark they figured they they like switched all their they figured out other ways to communicate so they weren't on the scanners the cops interesting which i think wouldn't surprise me yeah i mean you've got these cops moving through cities in these military formations. Again, this is nothing new. I mean, I guess we kind of took it for granted for a while that the years 2014 to 2017 were... It was just shit like this all the time, especially in 2014 and 2015. but for it to be happening in the middle of a sort of public health crisis is really I think what is what is so astonishing but I guess if there's anything like I want to say about this is that it's interesting like watching people's responses and the most common one i see is the sort of like liberal reform impulse

like um it's either from two directions it's either at the personal level like how you are a better ally how you um you know the personal choices that you have to make or from the systemic perspective which is we need body cams training better training like that's worked well and that's and so that's the thing that's the point it's that like none of the reforms that they put in place after 2014 and 15 actually worked obviously right this is um you know and there's a reason for that it's because like and i think the reason is and maybe you disagree i don't know but i for me personally i think the reason is that the cops the police exist and this is another reason

why calling for abolishing the police is pointless until you abolish capitalism until you abolish the mode of production because i think police exist to manage surplus population they manage parts of the working class that cannot be employed and brought into the discipline of the warehouse or the restaurant or the restaurant, or the factory, or whatever. So they are put in prisons, they are killed in the streets, etc. Like, I think that is the function of police officers. That is an interesting spin on it, because now that number of people is upwards of 40 million. Absolutely. Absolutely. Fuck it up.

Yeah. Damn. Terrence and I were talking about yesterday. It's like what somebody like Ruthie Gilmore Wilson would say. It's like, you know, race is like the primary, you know, modality that that plays out in. But, like, it's coming for all of us, you know. Yeah. Yeah, no.

Also, it's Ruthie Wilson Gilmore. Bruh. I'm sorry, Ruth. Also, it's Ruthie Wilson Gilmore. Bruh. I'm sorry, Ruth. Apologies. But no, that is right. That is the thesis that she works from, or works toward in Golden Gulag and about the sort of the carceral state.

But it is just as true as street policing. And so, again, it's this question of, like everything else presented to us in this crisis, it's like, is this the system we want to live under? I mean, it is at root... What's the word I'm looking for? Exterminationist? I don't know. Like, it has exterminist logic.

At the end of the day, they don't give a shit. You know, I mean, like, it's no coincidence that in the same week you have the White House calling us human capital stock. And the police literally just murdering a black man on camera in front of, you know, dozens of people. I mean, because that's how they view us people i mean because that's how they view us i mean that's how they view the working class you know that like they they have dehumanized you to that level remember when the reaction was all cops should wear body cams yeah like fucking body cams we're gonna do anything we have all this video of these motherfuckers they're murdering people on video already they don't need to see more of it no and then no it's

too did y'all like y'all remember like out of ferguson how you had the rise of the benevolent cop that was just doing it right yeah you know what i mean and i think chris rock had a good bit about it when he was like you know there's some jobs that like the whole 99 of them do it right thing doesn't work like like airline pilots you know for example would you would you go to an airline that has a 99 successful landing rate you know and well yeah so even even if you're a liberal that still like believes in like reformism where police is concerned, it just still doesn't even make any fucking sense. If you think that a solution at this point is to give more money to cops, they need body cams up their budgets. Well, let me tell you what that is.

Here's the grotesque thing about that. you what that what that is a lot of times here's the here's the grotesque thing about that and not just from what i know from being in local government in a small town is that all this money that gets funneled to police like in kentucky if you're a home rule city and you have any sort of like alcohol tax or like restaurant tax or any of those things all that money has to be funneled into one of two things either police or tourism and I was in office, the demarcation was like 80% police and like 12%, 15% could go for tourism and that kind of stuff. So it's no surprise that out of these police killings, when these things happen, all this stuff happens,

and then finally it dissipates, and then here's what all the like the governors and the mayors and whoever else said well we're going to invest this this much this much this much into training and body cams and all that stuff and all that fucking money goes to is to militarize them more so to as to curb the next uprising because they don't earmark what they can spend on that like if you're police you can just go buy guns and like fucking tanks and fucking armor and anything else with that shit yeah well and also the the calls for reforms are just so bizarre to me because and i guess this is the hallmark of liberalism but they don't look at the underlying sort of systemic dynamics you know yeah like it's inconceivable to them like i mean i really want to know like if you ask yourself like um or if you were to ask one of them like why

body cams or anything haven't worked in the last couple of years what their story is what their story is because like again because because it serves a specific function. Like, police don't just, like, I know they started as slave patrols. And over time, they have become this sort of, like, function of social control. But you have to look at the sort of mode of production that occurs occurs in the economic system that that occurs in and like how important it is to the capitalist class to have a working class that is obedient and subservient and doesn't question anything you know what i mean and i think that that is that is a crucial element of it and so just like um just like anything just like saying abolish ice or anything

like saying abolish the police is like i agree wholeheartedly but we're going to need a revolution in the sort of political economy itself um for that to first become a case because there's no reforming i don't know it's really bizarre it's like saying you want the sun to be dark or something you know what i mean it's like there's the police are the police they exist for that reason they can't be reformed out of being police it's like it's yeah it's like calling for capitalists to not be capitalists it's like they are engaging in a system. They are actors in a system playing out a role. And so there's no reforming that. Right, yeah.

You can't feed a cat a vegan diet. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, we have a bonus episode coming out this week, I think, about bail reform. And, you know, maybe I wanted the same thing about that it's like bail is literally meant to keep poor people locked up even though they haven't been convicted of anything so it's literally pre-trial imprisonment and that's why most people are like most of our jails are filled with people who've not been convicted of anything and it doesn't make any sense it's just like we should just do away with this bail system but it's obviously serving obviously it's serving somebody quite a bit

oh yeah i bet they make a fuckload of money off bail oh it's unreal it's unreal and it's it's nothing but like you're talking about people that aren't even like like the rationale is well you know we got to keep dangerous criminals from like running and not seeing their day in court or whatever but you know it's like they're doing this with like people that fucking have like the stupidest like petty crimes on you know what i mean yeah so well it's fucking depressing i mean you know it's interesting i was talking to my buddy jack norton the other day i can't remember if i said this to you guys or not but we were talking about like why is the pandemic so bad in america and we were talking about it like it can't just be coincidence that we imprison more people than any other nation i mean if you've got 2.5 million people locked up

that is a lot of hot spots for spreading the virus and you know and then and then it's spread to the guards and the guards go home, prisons aren't just secluded. Like, things come in and out of prisons. Yeah. You know, and so it's just we live in a prison state, in a carceral police state. And the reality of that is running up against the need for, you know, public health measures that can curb the virus. But just like everything else in society at the moment, it's all entering into this sort of like centrifuge

where none of the contradictions can get resolved. And so everything just starts pulling apart. can get resolved and so everything just starts pulling apart you know and and i think that if you were to look out at the just landscape of american reality right now like that is what you see you see burning buildings and you see right-wingers amassing and state capitals and you see 40 million people unemployed i mean, it's really phenomenal. This is like nothing I don't think this country has ever seen. I mean, even in the craziest moments of the 1960s, like the Watts riots and Newark, New Jersey and stuff. I mean, there was still high employment then.

employment then. There was a war, but there was enough surplus to be spread through the economy, manufacturing jobs, and etc. But now, the tank is out of gas, man. Truly.

Yeah. The horse is out of the barn. The horse is out of the barn. The fun dipstick is out of the fun dip. I don't know. And so this is the thing. It's like it goes back to that like episode we did two weeks ago about those dorky new leftists from the 60s who, you know, are pleading with us to vote for Biden. It's just like you look around at this shit and it's like can you really do you really think that that's going

to change anything it's like it doesn't matter who you vote for vote for biden i don't give a fuck it doesn't matter give ralph nader another go whatever you feel like doing yeah and it's just like it is even crazy that they're clinging to these courts these high courts yeah that's reason i hate to break this to y'all god damn rbg's already dead she probably not not physically but i'm telling you the police state is in peril i mean granted there's going to be a pushback and a really harsh response. We know this. I mean, we know that's going to happen. But we know now, at least, that we can put them on the ropes.

You know what I mean? That's what this feels like to me. Right. Yeah. Like, this is like, you know how, like, when you have a tornado warning and a tornado watch, and a tornado watch is just the conditions are favorable, but the tornado warning is when you start seeing some activity. With 40 million people unemployed. Yeah.

We went from watch to warning. You know? And. Well, and I wonder, you know, they called in the, they called in the fucking National Guard last night. And I just wonder how many of those fucking National Guard members are fucking unemployed right now you know i mean it's like at what point are they like why the fuck would i come out here why the fuck would i do this truly and their government has hung them out okay they've hung them out not only by like keeping them on these like ships and doing all this shit during this pandemic but they hang them out when they come back from fucking fighting these fucking rich man's wars.

They send them to the VA where their legs rot off from diabetes and shit, and they get the worst treatment. They've already got enough of a chip to want to push back. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying I like our chances more than I ever have right now. Well, yeah. just say it i i like our chances more than i ever have right now well yeah i mean 40 million is a very large number um obviously i don't think there are 40 million cops in the united states are there god i hope not and well remember that was uh that stat that one in ten um oh yeah one

in ten jobs uh is insecurity one in five oh fuck was it one in five jobs i think it was security obviously all those aren't cops they're like fucking mall security guards and bullshit but in prison guards and shit do you think any of them are laid off yeah absolutely they better go deputize a bunch of motherfuckers all i know to tell because we are we're deputizing some motherfuckers yeah well i mean you know i mean this is um i guess you it's dangerous to like look at this situation and just assume that something some sort of revolutionary situation could come out of this because this is nothing new in the

global context. I can imagine our friends in Cuba just saying oh that's cute. Or like in Ecuador or Chile where you had intense street fighting

and street mobilization in the last year. Yeah. That did not result in... Any sort of overthrow or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But I do think... I think that that's probably what will happen, honestly.

I think that there will be more street escalation um just because i don't know the working class still hasn't found any sort of uh entry point into i don't know in in i don't want to say politics that is true they haven't found an entry point into politics even with bernie their demands really weren't articulated that well. It's like what we were talking about the other day when you were saying that, you know, rent control and all these things are good, but ultimately they're cross-class, you know. They can be, yeah. Sometimes capitalists support rent control, just like they support UBI. and b yeah sometimes capitalists support rent control just like they support ubi i mean the thing is it's like you have to look at the demands at both the work the point of production and and

that includes social reproduction but actual reproduction etc and uh in the streets yeah um what people are dealing with and and those those demands have not been articulated yet by any party or person. And I think that's probably the best chance for getting into a sort of revolutionary scenario. What I fear is that it will be more escalation like this and just, you know, daily brawls between police and three percenters on one side and fucking the working class on the other side. But, you know, I don't know. These are very, very very very tenuous times very um

i mean scary isn't even the word i feel like we blew past scary a long time ago now it's just like now we've just got assholes tighter we're all terrence today we're all me we're all just sort of waiting. We're all top-floored today. Because it's like nothing we've ever seen. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I don't want to regress too much,

but I just had kind of a funny thought about, you know, police are sort of the paramilitary arm of like wealthy people but also too it's funny like they they do like like you know so much like the argument for voting for joe biden for example like so much emphasis is put on like not ceding any ground in the judiciary to the republicans or whatever and it's like, however that's sliced, this fascist police state is still charged with enforcing that law. It's not like RBG's not going out there on the front lines with ultimate power and a wand and waving it and saying,

now y'all get in line. Like, I heard Clarence Thomas ain't out there holding hands saying, now y'all stop that burning down auto zones and stuff now. You know what I mean? It takes the police. It's just interesting having this discussion just in the ways you don't even think about this very mediocre subset of people who have an outsized influence in society. And there's like this incredibly low barrier to entry to at the same time. And that in some ways, huh?

Yeah, I can't hear him either. can't hear you what happened i don't know oh shit man tom was on a yarn and then it fucked up was that what happened i'm here can y'all hear me can you hear us yeah i can hear you must just we can't hear you that's so weird can you hear me now We can't hear you. That's so weird. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Oh, my God.

I can't wait until we're all back together again. We can record in person. That's the NSA, man. Our Wi-Fi ain't worth a dog shit. I can't hear you, Tom. Maybe close out and come back in. Okay. Um, riffing off what he was saying, it really is crazy that they're like, oh, the courts,

oh, the courts. We have, what was the number you dropped of how many people are in prison in this country? Like, it's like two, it's something two point something million. Right. Like how much worse can it get? Well's that's the thing it's like and you and this is supposedly uh we just had eight years of fucking democrats in charge well that's what i really don't understand. Like, how many judges did Obama appoint? Right. I mean, I don't understand, like, how much longer they can just keep putting off the contradictions.

But it's just like, really, like, if that is your belief, if you believe that we have to shore up the judiciary to prevent stuff like this,'s like it's been happening and there's all the people there who you like and they're not doing shit about it and so what do you think is gonna happen like not shit i mean it's a point it's pointless to even try to address these people because they're they are liberals for a reason and And I know personally from firsthand experience, it is a lost cause to try to convince liberals of anything. So you should probably just write them off and tell them to go fuck themselves. But from the leftist perspective, if you're trying to get a grasp on the various forces

sort of at play in Americaica's sort of you know political arena and what might happen in the next coming years you kind of do need to get a grasp on like why they believe what they believe and ultimately this is really what it is like they think that this is just a race problem because that is how the liberal views the world it is a race plus class problem the two are completely interwoven you don't get one without the other and and that's why reforms don't work because it has to be a change in the mode of production. It has to be a change that overthrows the capitalist and puts the working class in charge. But the liberal worldview is fundamentally opposed to that. They will not accept that.

And so that is the question you have to ask yourself is it worth it trying to reform those people if you're a leftist and you understand that is it worth it trying to reform them or pull them to the left or pull them to a deeper understanding of the world yeah i mean i gave up on that i don't think so but you know it's funny can y'all hear me now yeah we can hear you that hear you especially at this point in history yeah giving up on liberals it's like this is it's it's funny i'm reading this clive woods book development arrested right now because i've decided to start reading again and i've noticed this and i support it tom and very happy to see this well it's funny because

you know how like the republicans like you saw had that dinesh d'Souza documentary that he did where he was like actually the republican party was the party of like whatever whatever uh you know that freed the slaves whatever uh and it's funny because like woods touches on that like especially after sort of like the planters in the delta their backs were sort of you know broken for a time and all this stuff was happening and when it came time for like people to be like the republicans to name people in like the state legislature of mississippi and all this stuff they put no almost no black politicians in there and it's funny today that you see that same thing happen with like the biden and the klobuchar's you know what i'm saying like even this representation that they said they've been about for the last

you know in the age of obama and stuff like they've dropped the pretense of that in the interest of safety because they think that like the default you know these crusty white people are going to be like you know better to limp across the finish line or whatever than take a flyer in these trying times. And to put a bow on my thought with the police thing I was talking about, it's funny, I was just talking about how it's kind of funny that we have these supreme laws of the land being dictated by this handful of people, and the only thing between us and overthrowing that are these people that were crying and pissing their pants

when they were out of fucking tear gas and riot control bullets yesterday. Pissing and moaning about an auto zone burning and all that stuff. pissing and moaning about an auto zone burning and all that stuff and it's funny just to see you know how like there's sort of this paramilitary arm that are the police in this country aimed at containment and then there's this power paramilitary arm the the actual military that's sort of the paramilitary arm of expansion to get more capital and more gains and all that sort of thing and uh we gotta gotta figure out a way to continue with both. Please, I need more blast balls, please. Please, please, give me more bullets so I can shoot you in the thigh with them, please.

Please. Timeout, timeout, let us reload. Everybody hold your fire. time out time out let us reload everybody hold your fire well but yeah you're right i mean and to connect that you know i think that like by their own standards and and sort of systems of logic and acceptance, they don't even believe what they say they believe in. No. You know, we are going to see another outpouring of, like,

liberal dedication to anti-racism in the same way we did in 2015 and 16. And it will mean ultimately nothing. Because, like, here's the thing. If that was the case, if the police's problem was that they are just racist, they are. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that they aren't. They are. But if that was the problem, then body cams would work.

Because then you would have, you know, the public being shamed into it and police being shamed into it. Like, all right, I'm not going to do this anymore. Yeah, it would be open and shut because you could just see the disparities laid bare and we know that we've already seen that right but the point is is that they must repress they must discipline the working class to the greatest extent possible and and and ruth wilson gilliam or it's correct the the modality in which that plays out is race or gender or whatever. I mean, it depends. It depends on the context and the situation.

But the ultimate end goal is the same. You have to extract as much surplus from that working class and channel it upwards to the capitalists. And until you have a change in that very basic structure. You don't solve racism. You don't solve racism. No, it's the same underlying problem with, like, talk about human rights. You know? Like, it's this very bourgeois notion. And then the problem is not rights.

The problem is what happens to the working class, either at the point of production or at the home or in the streets. No, that's right. That's right. I don't know. Tanya, what do you think? You've been silent during all this. What do you say?

It's just a fucking lot to hold on to right now and process. It's just so fucking bleak. It's just a fucking lot to hold on to right now and process. It's just so fucking bleak. It's pretty bad. Yeah. I don't know where we go from here. It's going to get worse. Who knows if it'll ever get... It's going to get a lot worse, that's for sure.

Who knows if it ever gets better. No, I mean, mean honestly watching the i watched a live feed of minneapolis last night for just hours and uh watching it it was like wow well this is exactly kind of where i thought this was heading you know as soon as the pandemic started i was like these are the images i expected to see back in march um and and it's because like america the social their social fabric itself is just it was just stitched together with the cheapest fucking uh yarn stitching and it is just being ripped to shreds um so yeah i guess my advice is like keep your

head on a swivel uh don't go out alone i know that we're supposed to be social distancing but um that that's another thing like liberal scolding protesters for not social distancing jesus fucking christ i mean it's like they're gonna kill us one way the other man literally it's it's the death march and oh god yeah it's pretty bad but it was um like i thought it um there did it did feel like some strength that two cities that far apart were kind of acting in solidarity yesterday yeah i mean in la they took over like fucking 10 lanes of traffic yeah like that is stopping commerce you know what i mean well you know the the crazy thing about that

no that that is great um and the crazy thing about that is like that a cop tried to drive through it and kill those protesters um but during these times you really get to see in which the ways in which cops really are the criminals. Because there was plenty of fucking footage that indicated that perhaps cops started the fire at the AutoZone in Minneapolis. There was a very fucking

fishy video going around of this guy just dressed in all black. They had the umbrella and the hammer. Yeah. Had a black umbrella and a gas mask. And then when people were, like, asking what he was doing around there, he started threatening them. He dipped out. Yeah, dude. That is fucking fishy.

Yeah. Those motherfuckers are probably the ones burning the fucking city down. There's nothing doubted at all. Because they think, because that's how they think they get uh the public on their side by yelling oh they're looting they're burning their own fucking street down you see these are fucking heathens and thugs yep and if you're a leftist looking at that and being like this isn't the way you do paul Oh, fuck it. Right, it's bad. Then you're not a leftist. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, A, you're not a leftist,

but B, I just want to ask those people, like, a lot of people are doing that. So, I mean, what, you're just going to go out there and try to convince thousands of people that they're doing the wrong thing? Looting literally isn't even a thing. It's just not even real.

It's just, like, we could never, if we spent every day for the rest of our lives stealing trinkets, it would never repay us for our wage theft. We would never make back. We would never make back all that we have, all that's been taken from us. If we were out just stealing piddly fucking shit at Target

for the rest of our goddamn days, which probably may not be many. Who knows? U.S. Bank has looted my ass more than anybody. Truly. $30 a goddamn day in overdraft fees. I was telling Terrence earlier, I was like, man, I would

get my goddamn paycheck, like $300 or something, and they'd have $78 by the time they took their cut. Oh, no, one time... They got fucking looted last night. Oh, good. One time when I was in college, I ended up owing PNC Bank,

because it was like across from my house, like $1,200, because they charged me every day that I was overdrafted. Yeah, and then they charged you off eventually. Yeah, but the original overdrafted yeah and then they charged you off eventually yeah and then the the but the original overdraft was like a dollar ninety and i ended up owing twelve hundred dollars yeah the same situation it's just it's there is no like there's no way for us to level this playing field systemically you know i mean like yeah we could loot till the goddamn cows come home loot it's such a funny song i mean such a funny word loot loot

give me the loot give me the loot i just thought it's funny arizona's old basketball coach name was lou dolson but his was loot like the instrument loot still funny word yeah well um well yeah no i mean this is uh Well, yeah, no, I mean, this is... These are the... If I was still a Christian, I really would be looking at this like, this is the end times, my man. But it is true in a certain way.

It is the end times of something. I hope. I mean, I hope to God it's the end of fucking something. That's a good episode title, the end times fucking something. That's a good episode title. The End Times of Something. We deserve to breathe. Well, yeah. Again, it's another thing. Watching these people scold looters

and whatever. It's just... It's comical. No, it is. There's no way to articulate like just like how much the system fucking grinds

you down and takes years of your life that is capitalism at this point and especially because the vast majority of this economy is service work you are just trading away years of your life and that's capitalism your life is not your own yes you have one life to live you you get one life that's it and you have to mortgage it

at least a good 60 or 70 years of it probably if not all of it entirely to a capitalist or to the police state or whatever uh to put it lightly you're right tanya there's no amount of looting we could do to get back all that lost time there's nothing more valuable than time we can loot all the fucking diamond stores in the world or whatever and you should and we should and we did but it will never get back the time that we have fucking given to them really the only thing that can get back the time uh that that we've given them is, um, yeah. Drowning them in, um, pools or cutting their heads off or, you know,

whatever. I mean, that would, that would, that would be a temporary reprieve. And then we could build a good society that is just and egalitarian and, uh, you know,

works for everybody. Um, again, I'd like to call on the fucking hackers and Anonymous. I don't know if they've just been waiting for the perfect moment, but this is it,

to redistribute all digital wealth. Why this isn't possible? I literally do not understand why it's not possible to redistribute all digital wealth. Why not? China's doing that. China's creating their own alternative currency basically to uh supplant hours during covet and you know i ain't got nothing else to say about it it's just interesting i like tanya's year-long

axe to grind against the hackers. I'm going to be on the opposite side of you on this one, Tanya. I'm going to go classic analog and put my money on the streets. Yeah. I think we lost her again. She appears to be frozen once again. And she looks like she's just so disgusted with us. All right. Tanya just messaged us and said put a bow on it.

Well, thanks for listening, folks. We've got content on the Patreon. If you'd like to listen to it, go to the Patreon. Closing thoughts, Tom? patreon um closing thoughts tom man i just you know the only thing i'd like to say is i'm on a mission to find my place in the world yeah i am i need to know yeah i've never thought much about my purpose or anything i've just kind of lived like a dog you know where's my next meal coming from but now i'm trying to figure out you know if there's anything uh you know anything to be any any meaning to be gleaned in this

existence i my i myself have been struggling with that recently my friend uh and i think the only real meaning you could take from life because because here's the thing about life, you can fall in love and you can love your family and you can love your friends, but ultimately even that will leave you heartbroken in the end, unless you go first. But if you don't go first, then they're all going to die and you're going to feel bad.

I think the great blues man B.B. King said, nobody loves me but my mama, and she might be jiving too. Yeah. So love is a very important part of life, probably the most important thing in life. If you find true love, or if you love your children, or your family, your parents, or anybody, love or if you love your children or your family or parents or or anybody that that is a the probably the most important thing you will find in this life and you should hang on to it with every uh

last breath you have yeah however aside from all that your only purpose on this earth, and this is probably some sort of existentialism. I think this is probably the whole point of Camus and et cetera. But the only thing that will give your life meaning, really, is trying to change the world. I think that's really the only thing that will give your life meaning. Yeah. that's really the only thing that will give you me your life meaning yeah trying to change the systemic conditions that create this fucking world we live in and even if you're fucked

yeah keep plugging even if you got it the ship's going down and they're playing the there's five guys playing a violin in the corner you still gotta adopt a stiff upper lip that's exactly right um because barring that barring love for one another and love for humanity really and i guess this is a humanistic impulse too um but i guess i do have a little bit of humanism in me i believe in the potential of humanity and our abilities to create wonderful and beautiful things, technological innovations, things that make life easier. But we have to get rid of capitalism to do that. It is the thing that is killing us and as we said it on a few episode a few weeks back human existence is on a collision course with capitalism and unless we do something about it it will it'll get us it's got it's got a little bit of a head

start on us yeah yeah and so you just have to make that basic choice i mean i i get very down about this because and i was you know and i was i was thinking about this the other day because i mean you look at the right wing and like all the resources and shit that they have and like they got millions of views on youtube and uh you know and i look at us and we're just like averaging like don't get me wrong I'm not complaining this is way more listeners than I ever thought we'd have but we only have about 20,000 listeners which is just a drop in the bucket compared to like what these fucking right the numbers these right-wingers put up on fucking YouTube every day and etc and uh and that can get discouraging and

you're like you know you start thinking like, well, maybe my analytical framework doesn't work. Maybe that's why. Maybe Marxism or dialectical materialism or whatever, maybe. Or even more broadly, the sort of leftist position is incorrect and the thing is it's not if you you know

you should trust your senses about the things going on around you but also if you read things like Capital you see that it is very it is very and then you look out at the world and the things happening today like in minneapolis preordained yeah it is yes exactly it's all it has been foretold um and you know the very basic truth of the matter is uh

if we want to stop this shit, the working class is going to have to overthrow the capitalist class. That's really what it comes down to. Yeah, we gotta figure out the way to do that. And that is not a class reductionist position because all of the things that

are included in that, the way that classes lived and manifested and experienced, like race and gender and everything else, that is included in that. And that's the only way we're going to get to a better world. So that requires a very large degree of faith. Um, but I don't have anything really else to say about it.

Then like, that's just the brakes, man. Like that. Yeah. That's just the world, you know, it's, it's not fair. And, uh, and there's really nothing you can do except just keep fighting. fair and uh and there's really nothing you can do except just keep fighting and um and that's that's the that's the most that's the best i can give you and by god that's what we'll continue to do that's right that's right all right well thanks for listening this week everybody we will see you on the patreon this weekend and if, we'll see you next week.

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