Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 159: Pseudo-Apostles and Sweet Boys

Episode Date: August 13, 2020

T&T dig into the late middle ages, Biden's VP pick, and the soon-to-be congressional battles between THE SQUAD and QANON Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

It's all right now. All right, now I'm going. All right now. This sounds really gross in the microphone. What is that? I don't have the camera, but I frankly don't think I want to. It's a massive jug of coconut water. That sounds so fucking gross oh that's that my friends is how

you become an audio engineer you find things that make perverted noises and then before you know it you're on a Timbaland album sampling the sound of your coconut water as if it's the sound of a wet pussy. A wet ass pussy. My favorite story about a production is and I may have told this on the show but it just seems pertinent. But Timbaland did the beat for Genuine's Pony

a classic record. And you know, Timbaland did the beat for Genuine's Pony, a classic record. And you know how he did it? I do know, but why don't you tell us? They were doing a recording session, and Timbaland got, they all got hungry. I guess Timbaland got hungry and decided he wanted the Grand Slam breakfast from Denny's. So about three in the morning, Timbaland, Magoo, Missy Elliott, Genuine, all of them go out to Denny's to get the Grand Slam breakfast. And when they got back to the studio, Timbaland was gassy.

Yeah. And so, you know, you hear that, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's Timbaland burping into a vocoder and looping it so this really sexy song is just timbaland like belching fucking denny's grand slam breakfast probably the only man to make millions off of having gas yeah he's got that gas he's cooking with that gas yeah quite literally um all right so getting started here i'm recording um we probably don't need to do a clap track since uh it's just me and you um but make sure your headphones are turned down if you could they're turned way down okay i can barely hear anything

all right i got something for you, man. I got something to throw at you to start this week's show off with. How about this? Whitesburg Review of Books. You want to do the Whitesburg Review of Books? The Whitesburg Review of Books. And it's our publication bi-weekly publication we will be covering such topics as um the local crank in your community's uh local history um book about the time someone was lynched

in the 1920s but it wasn't racism we will be cut we will be covering um your other local cranks murder mystery every small town community has a middle-aged balding grumpy guy who is like a failed he's what we would be if we had not got a podcast you know what i mean like it's what this guy is yeah right we would be this person a guy who's got decent writing chops but never made it as a writer or uh uh any kind of media person and so like in their 50s they're just like writing self-published murder mysteries oh my god you know what i mean like decap decapitation at the pounding mill or stuff like that. I feel like this is subtweeting a certain writer for our local paper that tried to make a very innocuous article in Cold Blood by Truman Capote.

It could be. I mean, look, all good fiction is based on real life people. So maybe it is. Maybe it's not. There's nothing I hate worse than dreams unfulfilled. It's second only to secondhand embarrassment in terms of how much I hate it for somebody else. Like, I want everybody to achieve their dreams. It's honestly what haunts the left, the American political left.

The Soviet Union, a dream unfulfilled. Yeah. That's true. dreams it's it's honestly what haunts the left the american political left the soviet union a dream unfulfilled yeah that's true yeah and we've not let it go we've adopted all their aesthetics we you know bicker back and forth about who's good who's not who's a mass murderer who's not blah blah blah yeah now this is dream baby dream this is why the only way that like the codex um to understanding our current moment the only way to understand it is um through the late middle ages uh you've been you've been hanging out in the late Middle Ages a lot, I've noticed. I have been, yeah. I've been reading Umberto. Oh, okay. So you must be talking about Umberto Eco.

Umberto Eco. I've been reading his The Name of the Rose, which the politics of it are kind of whatever. It's a very postmodern novel. Yeah. The message of it are kind of whatever. It's a very postmodern novel. Yeah. The message of it is essentially you'll never be able to discover the truth. The truth will always be elusive. All you can do is study the world.

You can never really put your foot into it. basically from the perspective of this Franciscan monk who was an inquisitor who has like an identity crisis because he realizes that the people he's supposed to be, like the heretics that he's supposed to be burning at the stake, basically got their ideas from St. Francis and these holy people, like these people who like started off with these holy ideas, and they just carried the ideas to their logical conclusion. So the heretics wanted to bring heaven on earth, essentially, and what they meant by that was an egalitarian society

with gender equality, no hierarchy, the abolition of feudalism, but they had to kill people to do it. They basically had to implement a terror. So basically, the online left existed in the Italian Middle Ages. More or less, yes. I mean, really, it's weird to see how that just mirrors where we're at today. Well, the context for it, I was telling you this the other day, the context for it was that at this time,

a major influential text for the mendicant orders of the late Middle Ages was this guy, Joaquin of Fiore, who had a theory of history much like Marx he he thought that there was like a age of Christ an age of the church and then like an age of the messiah and that like you know the messiah would be coming back and everybody thought it was going to be around the turn of the last millennium the year 1000 for those of you who don't know what not to okay the last time we had a y2k the y2k scare then was 1ky yeah 1 2k 1 2k right they're like jesus is coming back actually it's the millennium it's his birthday thousand years hey let me tell you something a thousand years later a lot of people still clung to that so hugely influential the shadow of 12k loomed large yeah i know what's even more influential when you really think about it what's even more interesting is like so i turned

33 next month um didn't jesus die at 33 wasn't that the age or is it 32 let me go ahead and tell you my friend you'll spend that whole year thinking it's your time, too. At any time. And let me tell you why. And then at the end of it, when you don't die, you realize how much of a narcissist you truly are. That you thought that your year

33 had some sort of cosmic importance. Well, here's what's interesting. I've done nothing... It's interesting that a guy who didn't even get started with his political spiritual theological aspirations didn't even get started until his 30 till his third till age 30 or so did enough in those three years to create a movement that lasted 2 000 years never underestimate the uh the power of your own reach, my friend. That's true.

It's true. I mean, we, yeah. I mean, he probably was just poking around, just, you know. I imagine Jesus might have been like the Jim Morrison of his day. Kind of just like, you know, a little bit of a poser, but was like just walking around the desert being like this like the deep guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the deep guy? The deep, definitely.

I am that guy. On this podcast, that's my character. Well, you're not really the deep guy, though. Think about the deep guy is like a guy who usually grows his hair long. He's not really interesting at all, but he like this tortured poet type to basically just get girls in bed. Right, right. You know what I mean? Except Jesus probably wasn't interested in that so much.

I think he's probably, you know, I don't know. I don't know, man. He's probably just running with the fellas, you know? Well, an interesting part of this time period that I was just talking about, it's like one of the big debates was whether Jesus and the disciples owned property. Whether they owned private property or not. Yeah. It was hugely controversial because if he didn't, then it meant that the Franciscans and all these other sort of like heretic orders were correct and that the life of poverty and the pledge of poverty was the correct route.

But on the other side was like the Pope, Pope John XXII and all this. And they thought that he did own property and that therefore the church could amass wealth. And they went so far as to even create statues. I shit you not. They created statues. At this time, the papacy had been moved to Avignon from Rome. Yeah. And they even created statues.

This is how shameless they were. They created statues of Jesus on the cross where one hand is out of stretch, but the other hand is holding a purse at his belt, like a coin purse. So this was the big schism and so all their icons had to reflect the schism exactly that's exactly right that's exactly interesting gosh damn you'd be you would be mauled today if you did that but honestly like american

christianity's conception of jesus is more in line with both hands on the purse. Well, yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's absolutely true. That's interesting, though. Well, what's interesting, what I find so interesting about it is that in many ways it mirrors the current situation in this way. The heretics were defined in their heresy

by a desire to transform the social order of the day. At that time, it was feudalism or whatever. Right. Now, like I just said, the reason why this was so controversial is because the heretics were simply, and you can look this up, there's a group, a sect,

called the Dulcinians. Led by this guy, Fra Dulcin. The sweet boys? The sweet boys. That's really what it translates to. The sweet boys, yes. The pseudo-apostles and the sweet boys.

Just like us. But they all started in the same basic idea. And honestly, Marxism is the same. Marxism started, it has its roots, its seeds, in the same enlightened liberal principles of the Enlightenment era. But what it is, starting from the Jacobins and following that thought all the way through to the end, it is this idea of radical democracy, of egalitarianism. It's taking the original ideas of radical democracy to their logical input.

So let me ask you this. Okay. So basically the story of Marxism. I mean, we could argue about the, you know, what we're talking about the Franciscans and everything, but basically our timeline as we know it today starts with like the French socialists. Yeah. Like Charles Foyer, like that crowd. Even earlier.

I mean, really, if you wanted to start, you could start with Robespierre in the French Revolution. Like the actual guys doing the yeah okay yeah okay anyway well i mean that's the thing marx well that's the thing that you know is always sort of uh said about marx he took from the french jacobin socialists the political program from the germans you know the german German sort of... The metaphysical tradition, the Hegelians. That's exactly right. And then from the British... What did he take from the British?

Ingalls? Yeah. A steely disposition. Hemorrhoids and boils. Yeah, that's right. But anyways... hemorrhoids and boils yeah that's right but anyways you know like the heresies of the late middle ages also germinated in the same sort of like froth you know what i mean in the same sort of like uh primordial primordial ooze right

and what happened over time is that pope john the 22ndII and all of his corollaries, all the other status quo Christians, had to square the circle of why they were persecuting the heretics. And so what that caused was a sort of like mental schism. And I don't know if this book, and maybe somebody who's read it and is an expert on it, is bashing their head against the speaker listening to me ask this question and talk about it. I can't tell if Echo... I'd love to know who sits at the intersection of Truabilly's and Umberto Eco, but whoever that person is, come on. I don't know if Echo is being prescriptive, if he's saying that you should adopt a postmodern view, or if he's saying that because of what happened at this time, that a postmodern-like disposition or analysis kind of grew out of it. Because what happens is, like I said,

when you have a situation where people take something to its logical end point, there is like a psychic schism that occurs in the people that then have to stop it. At that time, it was the Pope and the Catholic Church. Now, in our case, it's

the liberals, right? Like, they have stopped us, the left, from realizing any kind of our program whatever not only that but have sort of like made us support them too at the same time right like brought us to heal subjugated us and also made us do what they want that's exactly right they've made an example out of us. They really have. We've spent four years just making fun of them, busting their balls at every turn,

and forgetting that actually still they have a very specific role they play and more proximity to the reins of power. And yeah, they've disciplined us. That's exactly right. That's all heresy is at the end of the day.

It's just declamations. Just getting disciplined. Yeah, that's exactly right. Like my buddy Zach's dad Randall when he caught me sticking my finger in his olive jar. Exactly. It's not a metaphor. I really was just eating olives with my hand out of his jar, and I didn't know it. That wasn't allowed.

Right, no, it's exactly like that but anyways that'll be in this editions this month's edition of the Weisberg review of books like and subscribe for your latest reviews written you'll you'll have reviews written by our most profound and premier social critic timmy kershaw writing reviews of uh 4 000 word facebook posts oh my god that'd be so good

and anyways that's the literature we get around here. We get murder mysteries, we get local history, and we get Facebook posts. Man, all of them equally valid in the field of literature. Excuse me. God, I think choking over here. I think so. I'm choking over here. I think so. Anyways, welcome to the show, everybody. Nothing like starting a show off with 15 minutes of Umberto Eco analysis. Exegesis. I'm your host T-Ray Without the old TBT this week unfortunately Without Auntie Bernice She had to dip out

At the last moment She'll be on the Patreon this weekend though Don't ask why Don't ask why A lot of things to talk about this week Right Tom? There's some news items yeah There's some news items to talk about this week. Right, Tom? There's some news items, yeah. There's some news items to talk about this week.

So let's just get it out of the way. Let's just get it out of the way. Joe Biden finally announced his long-awaited VP pick. It will be... It's a shame it was two days after he died. Yeah, he gets a posthumous VP pick just like those students

at like Boston University or whatever will get a posthumous degree. If they die of COVID while they're still enrolled. That was the most macabre shit I've ever heard. I want to see if I can find this real quick, Tom. It was... Let me ask you a question.

You think... Oh, my God. This is a horrible joke to make, but I'm just going to go ahead and make it because we're in the business of doing horrible jokes. But you think there's anybody out there like 2024 will be driving a, you know, like a obnoxiously large SUV with a proud student of a Boston U grad. But their kid's actually dead.

Yeah, it'll be like deceased class 2020. Yeah, and that is flanked by the Eastern Kentucky tribute car decal. Right. Yeah, Boston University instates policy to issue degrees to students after death. No, it says students who die while attending Boston University will have the chance to obtain a posthumous degree.

Will have the chance. What are they going to do from the great beyond to earn their baccalaureate degree? Oh, my fucking God. That is a hilarious sentence. Students who die while at Boston University will have the chance. Amazing. Like their fate's in their own hands. Oh, my God. amazing like their fates in their own hands oh my god well um biden similarly had the chance to

pick his vp and pick he did he picked uh former california or wait she's actually currently a senator yeah sitting senator sitting sinister senator kamala harris um once described by her father as a pot smoking joy seeker i saw that and people are passing that around as like it's a but like a pot i'm a pot smoking joy seeker so what he was saying was that she was uh you know spreading the uh stereotype of the jamaican who is like the pot smoking joy seeker i see that's what he took umbrage with i see i see um she was the 27th district attorney of san francisco 32nd attorney general of california The top cop. She called herself. That's exactly right. And there's a lot of things to say about this.

But I think one of the funniest things about it is that it comes I mean like almost by a sort of like cosmic serendipity it landed on the exact same week that the Cardi B that the Cardi B song, the Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion song, WAP, came out.

So you get amazing tweets like Kamala waking up this morning. Certified Veep seven days a week. Wet ass pussy making the GOP weak. Man, I could have... Listen, I want to tell you something. In the annals of Twitter cringe, of which I've probably got plenty of entries myself, I'm not casting aspersions, that's in the conversation. There's nothing I hate worse than when a pop culture moment sort of runs up against a political moment.

Not a good culture moment sort of runs up against like a political moment, like not like a good political moment. Like it makes sense for like, you know, protest songs and stuff like that. But I'm talking like a banal, like awful political moment, like Biden and Harris joining forces. Well, because the universe loves us, we don't get a lot of nice things these days, but we did get those two things colliding And so what we get is that Kamala Harris' wet ass pussy

Has the GOP Absolutely shook Yeah absolutely shook Oh my god God damn it I wish I didn't see that Vlad the Impaler Known for impaling his enemies um

ging is con you know known for raising villages kamala harris will go down as striking fear and terror in her opponent's hearts because of her wet ass pussy because of that drip drip here's another one i hope kamala dances into the convention in formation with beyonce rihanna mary j janet and cardi b singing wap grab it can't touch this oh my god dude dude i need somebody oh my god it's great i don't know what you're talking about dude dude i i just have echoes of of you know like we were both veterans of the war on coal and we right dealt with our fair share of like corny activists and i guess at different turns were ourselves corny activists but i can remember when beyonce's

formation came out and like the corniest people alive were like like like leaving like the facebook statuses that were like okay ladies now let's get in formation and it's like yeah what are you talking about like you're like You're like trying to get these green jobs. I don't know. Well, now, the funniest thing now is that if the song would have been titled anything else, I don't know if they would have slapped it on the now active VP campaign. But just by historical

quirk, we now get that Kamala Harris' wet ass pussy is it is what has the GOP running for the hills. Running scared. There's going to be a driving force behind this, yes. And I think that's great.

Did you see the thing about her husband? I did not no That was going around Oh was it in four or Was it um Was it that he's like our new Favorite Jewish daddy Yeah he's like our

Our daddy Or something they called it Douglas Imhoff Um he's an entertainment litigator and began his career at Pillsbury Winthrop's Litigation Group. He later moved to Bellin, Rawlings, and Bedall, a boutique firm, in the late 1990s. That's when he got his first sample of that Kamala Whap.

Harris and her husband had an... Yeah, really, have an estimated net worth of 5.8 million dollars. Pretty modest. Well, I know, but there's going to be liberal commentators pointing out that they're basically poppers. Right.

Because of this. Well, there were a few really good articles about this. So, first of all, I read a week ago that some Biden allies, this is in CNBC, some Biden allies are waging a shadow campaign to stop Kamala Harris from becoming vice president. Before we go into this, I just want to say for the record, when this all started, I can't,

I don't know what episode it is, but when the campaign first started last summer, I remember sitting in my living room, same spot I'm sitting in now, except you were here with me when we could still, when we could still share the same. We could still spit in each other's mouths like we used to. Exactly. I remember telling you, I think the, the candidate is going to be kamala harris and um my reasoning for that was

that she's a lawyer she's like good at like clapbacks you know what i mean she's good at like uh roasting people on stage and having sort of like witticisms um and she's kind of like uh i don't know basically she's a lawyer i think that was my exact thing actually she's a lawyer and america loves lawyers libs love lawyers right yeah well obviously she kind of shot herself in the foot because she's notoriously um not very charismatic really awkward um says things like my smoked weed with snoop dogg and when i was in college and yeah oh she goes oh yeah i just listened to a couple of things you may have heard of like tupac snoop dogg uh and it's funny because like i don't nwa's first album wasn't even out by the time she

graduated college much less those guys um right well i felt really dumb about that over the next few months especially when she dropped out in december i was like oh i'm a fucking idiot i don't know what i'm talking about but it is entirely possible she could be the next president because even biden himself has admitted that he's probably not long for this world as he alluded to his his impending demise well it has didn't he say something about that like um about how he might need to be sort of replaced or something or am i if i have i just made that up in my mind no i think it was something effective but so basically biden wants to serve one term to get his name in the annals

of history he has no he has no like plans to do anything like this is about cementing his life like the cherry on top before he coasts out that's what he wants right yeah well um Yeah. Well, so there are some people trying to stop her. Some Biden allies. These are the reasons. Some remain bitter about her attacks on Biden during primary debates last year, saying they bring into question her loyalty to the former vice president. Oh, my God. I love this. I love this. Oh my God, I love this. I love this dude. This is like, there's like some like snooty fucking Joe or died limp dick that wears like Tom shoes that's like has his arms crossed in these meetings

when they're talking about Kamala Harris. Yep. Pissed off that she rightly at the time pointed out his record on busing and other stuff, but then just totally blew any integrity she had in the end by backstepping for her ownpping to facilitate her own upward mobility. Carry on. Others argue that she's too ambitious and that she will be solely focused on becoming president herself. I'd say it's a safe bet.

Yeah. She might even get antsy and fucking put a pillow over this guy's face, honestly. No, so some people are not happy about it. But I'll tell you who is happy about it. According to the New York Times, Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Kamala Harris has Wall Street and Silicon Valley support. Let's see. Wall Street is happy about the signal it sends.

Ms. Harris was the moderate choice among left-leaning candidates who may have taken a tougher line on finance firms. That said, during her presidential primary campaign, Ms. Harris said that she would pay for her health care plans with taxes on financial transactions. I would tax Wall Street stock trades at 0.2%, bond trades at 0.1%, and

derivative transactions at 0.002%. Oh my god. Man, brutal. Silicon Valley is happy about this. Draconian, even. Silicon Valley likes it because apparently she got her start in the Bay Area and has been a fixture in fundraising circles there for decades.

Tech executives appear excited by her place on the ticket and reassured by her circumspect stance on things like breaking up the biggest tech company so all safe there from the uh two biggest sources of the elite's um continued um sustenance and uh in power so she's safe there that's good um but uh but yeah no like what do you think tom is this like a is this a good pick for mr biden was this the right route was this the right thing to do i think it's i mean i think it helps biden i mean i think it shores up any sort of questions about his decidedly retrograde views on race in america but i mean let's make no mistake about it. That shit doesn't end in the 70s or anything like that

with busing or the 60s or anything. I mean, it's like... I mean, he was still, you know, doing the whole... What did he do with Charlemagne? Oh, was that when he said... Oh, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black? You ain't black, Jack. Yeah, you ain't black, man.

Come on, dude. Come on, Jack. And so i think it does that i think it shores up the questions about his uh his his being too comfortable right uh and then then the other thing too is i think it's just a it's just a really innocuous pick but also kamala harris checks all the sort of um boxes that he needs her to check. I mean, she checks the sort of woman of color thing and the cop thing. So it's like he's doing a both sides-ism in a way. Right.

You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right. With this pic. So if the Democrats do anything, if they're good at anything, it's casting a wide net. And getting nothing. Casting. Nobody. And getting. it's casting a wide net and getting nothing casting nobody and getting nobody's been a more inefficient fisherman than the democrats a fisher of men than the democrats they have a massive net but it's just riddled with holes it's just riddled with holes and yeah that's true um no i think you're right um i mean i wasn't surprised in the slightest

uh i mean who else was he gonna go with right i mean barbara lee is too far left elizabeth warren is i mean she should have read the tea leaves a long time ago right right you know but but kamalaala Harris is a way to like, to really, I think, sort of, he's like, to give the appearance of making a gesture that he's not really making, because so many people think that like, nominating a woman of color is like in itself, something in itself is like, you know,

good for some sort of egalitarian project which is like right you know it's entirely consistent with his past policies i mean yeah like the crime bill you know what i mean uh right it is entirely consistent with what he's made his career on and as a result you see all these really wacky articles and people saying like kamala kamala harris had to be tough on crime as a woman of color she had to be tough on crime yeah otherwise she wouldn't have been made been in the senate it's like oh if i'm in jail for 35 years for getting caught the half a gram of cocaine but by god kamala harris achieved her dream of being in the senate right i mean and it's it's really strange like i don't i don't know i mean i think it was it it was not surprising um but uh i guess we'll see what happens you know

um i don't know if it hurts his chances or helps his chances. I have no idea. I mean, I was thinking about this today. Like, we haven't really had to be pundits since March. The past three months have been us basically floundering, like just scrambling for content. Humming some bars until we get some actual content. And then when actual content does come i'm just like

oh shit i guess i'm flat-footed man i forgot what to do with this i forgot how to i forgot how to do punditry right um but it is uh it is a development we can say that for facts i mean it i, really and truly. I mean, what more can you say about it? I mean, the deal is it shores up a lot of weaknesses that he has in the minds of the dumbest people. Right. While also doing fuck off for working people. Right.

Or any sort of left project. No, you're absolutely right. left project so no you're you're absolutely right um well um so kamala harris is now the vice presidential nominee with joe biden um but there are other developments uh going on in america that we need to cover. Some really good ones, in fact. I'm speaking, of course, about... If I can pull this up here. I'm speaking, of course, about a primary down in Georgia won by Marjorie Taylor Greene, a QAnon supporter. She won the House primary

in Georgia and... Did she beat John Ossoff to do it? She did not. She beat a guy named something Cowan. John Cowan, a neurosurgeon who is no less conservative or pro-Trump.

The only difference is that she's a QAnon supporter, and this guy wasn't. So the QAnon person looked like the same choice. The more relatable choice. Yes. Yes. I mean, I've been really having a

fun time, like, sort of in my mind trying to, like, game out. Like, um, so, you you know another couple of developments that happened this week is ilan omar rashida talib and aoc all won their primaries right um i don't know if that means that they're gonna win in november but regardless let's just say that they do but the squad came through uh yeah i've been having a lot of fun trying to, like, game out, like, the Squad trying to, like, bargain with the QAnon people on, like... Oh, my God, dude.

The Squad versus QAnon. And it made me think of something from my youth. from my youth when i was like 20 years old maybe when i was like maybe between the years 20 and 22 i remember thinking like this is how like ass backwards my politics were i remember thinking that like man all all this country really needs to like get get some real change is if like you know like i'm fine with the two-party system i'm fine with the two-party system whatever but i just want the two parties to be like socialists and libertarians and then maybe like the place that they meet in the middle like then that that will be like somewhere where we can start getting some places oh my god and now i kind of got my dream but now it's like on absolutely farcical terms dude

you're i could just imagine a young terrence think this is what this is like this is what we're gonna have to have. And you just never think it's going to come to pass, and then it comes to pass, and it looks like this. And it looks like this. I want to read to you the opening line of this New York Times article about this. Conspiracy theorists won a major victory on tuesday as a republican supporter of the convoluted pro-trump movement q anon triumphed in their house primary runoff election in georgia right off the bat i have some problems with that conspiracy theorists won a major victory on

tuesday like as if every democrat running right now saying that like Putin, you know, and Moscow Mitch are running the fucking world together in their cabal is not also a conspiracy theorist. Let me tell you something. If you're out there chanting about Moscow Mitch, you are no more or less insane than QAnon person. Absolutely. Honestly. I mean, it's a conspiracy theory at the end of the day it is quite literally yeah it might be more plausible than like you know what we hear about comet pizza or whatever but that doesn't mean it's not completely conspiratorial and pulled right right um so yeah um she uh will go on to be you know like a let's see i wanted to read this here um george's 14th congressional district one of the most republican in the country

is likely to vote red in november mrs miss green is all but assured of getting the chance to put into action her talk of rooting out an imagined deep state cabal of pedophile Satanists who are trying to take down President Trump. QAnon, a conspiracy theory that has attracted a fervent following since it emerged from the troll-infested fringes of the internet nearly three years ago, has already inspired real-world violence,

including the killing of a mob boss its supporters its supporters are slowly becoming a political force that some republicans feel they cannot afford to alienate even as the party struggles to distance itself from racist and anti-semitic conspiracy theories man i i hope there's a day on the left where we're like god damn man well listen we can't afford to alienate the pesadists they're too strong of a voting block um no man uh she said the republican stat of the republican establishment was against me the dc swamp is against me and the long fake news media hates my guts it's a badge of honor it's not about me winning this is a referendum on every single one of us on our beliefs oh man so um Oh, man. So, yeah, we've got a QAnon person in Congress now. It's going to get interesting.

Finally. Finally. I mean, it is in a way, though, man. If we could get a critical mass of QAnoners versus a critical mass of squatters, it would make congressional softball a lot more fun because nothing's getting done anyways like we're never getting health care or anything like that we might as well get some theater out of this at least get the yeah at least get some theater because like the current theater sucks ass you know yeah honestly yeah honestly if the democratic party wanted to beat mitch if it was truly invested in beating mitch mcconnell at all costs then they should have just run a q anon person as a democrat i i swear to

god that person would probably beat mitch mcconnell yeah no i mean it is what is it is about like all these sort of like batshit crazy things that are getting purchased now like that like they're like like that somebody looks at the ballot and says this guy's a neurosurgeon that's a little too uppity for me but it's q anon man you think it's just like like a facebook class thing i think so i mean i think it's anti-establishment obviously but i think even more than that there's a sort of like deep hole in the center of this country's identity so for example and i've said this before and i'm you know a lot of people i've said this before but if you are an average american an average middle class uh pays his taxes nuclear family american

and you try to raise your kids by a set of values and virtues um follow the rules um do what your leaders tell you to do um work hard um you know etc etc right then something happens like a schism happens in your brain some sort of like psychic uh collapse of some kind happened when you see the past 20 years of american history in which we've launched two major wars, the banks completely tanked the economy. You have to then come up with something in your mind for rationalizing why the world does not function the way that you've brought your kids up to believe. Brought your kids up to believe.

So like I said. If you were a person who told. Who raised your kids to be virtue. You know. Virtuous and have these values. And then when the world reflected back to you. Shows a world that like. Is not held to any virtues or values at all.

There's no accountability for. Anybody's bad actions. Well here's the why son. It's the Rothschilds. It's the Masons and the Jews. It's exactly right. It's the why son it's the rothschilds the masons and the jews it's exactly right it's exactly what it is now in the past 50 or 60 years ago america was still going towards a apogee of sort of of greatness you know like an apex a sort of moments of uh world historical greatness right well now we don't have our enemies the communists anymore right um like i was i was talking to somebody about this the other day no cash no hope no job no cash no hope no jobs i was talking about this the other day with

somebody about like china because china is very fascinating. China is our enemy, according to the people in power. According to both Trump and Biden, because Biden is a huge China hawk. China is our enemy, but they don't represent an existential, civilizational threat in the same way

that communism in the Soviet Union did, and then after that, political Islam did. Now, the civilizational existential threat is internal. It's refugees pouring over the border, and it's Antifa. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Like, China is just... I mean, they keep trying to put it in these terms, but I just don't... Obviously, like, it's racist. Like, they put it in these racist terms, but they kind of fail to put it, obviously, like, it's racist. Like, they put it in these racist terms, but they kind of fail to put it into this, like, sort of civilization, this battle of civilizations thing. They'll just chalk it up to, like,

it's the China virus and all this. Right, they've not, it's not, it doesn't have the same sort of cultural cachet that Us vs. the Reds did. It's exactly right. And so, like, once once you started identifying internal enemies as the sort of existential threat well you know there's then there can never be a sort of shared understanding of what we are you know what i'm saying like do you think that has to do with

let me ask you do you think that has to do with this that idea that like we still have every every american has proximity to china every day because everything we use here is made in china right right whereas like the soviets were could be more easily other because they were looked off as this like sort of blocked off hermit kingdom where like just everybody worked in a you know a goddamn coke plant yeah our economies weren't intertwined i mean not at all our economy is deeply intertwined with china's right um you know they sell all their shit to us we sell them our we give them west virginia yes we give them the state of west virginia um no i mean like yeah we're deeply intertwined and and so i think that that's maybe why they don't go that next step and say that it is an existential civilizational threat

and just keep it at the level of just the most racist um you know inflammatory remarks right um but i guess what i'm saying is that like when you have like an external enemy if they were actually successful in painting china in that way then i think that it would be um a little easier to have like a national identity to draw from there's no national identity anymore right i mean no we have no we have no interesting heavyweights. We have no interesting fake heavyweights that can be portrayed in movies. Right.

I think the hallmark of our dying society is everything is pastiche. I joke about the boxing thing, the the most anticipated fight of the century is a guy mike tyson that retired 20 years ago and roy jones jr who retired several years ago too and it's like we just can't there's no innovation now there's nothing nothing new we're adding to anything we're just like everything we wear is just derivative of something from another time everything we watch is just a reboot of something that's already existed you know furthermore the opportunities to actually reform this is where i think the sort of like decline really comes through is that the opportunities to reform it lack all political imagination, and more importantly, no one is willing to take risks.

I'm referring specifically to Bernie. Like, you, and I've said it before, but there needed to be a point where we, where, you know, the left says we are different from the Democratic Party. As a sort of existential statement. A defining statement there was no like everybody is just so afraid to create that schism within the democratic party that no one can take political risks anymore which is which is like in my mind like the most cowardly thing because that motherfucker is ripe to just like fall apart. You know what I'm saying?

Absolutely. Like a concerted, like, I mean, like, our theory of change is only wrong because we either, because the people that we have charged to sort of take over the Democratic Party, Bernie, AOC, whoever, either one of two things is going on. Either they lack imagination or they're cowards.

You know what I mean? You know, like the fact that you got, you got this thing's like standing up on three legs. All you gotta do is lean on it a little bit. Well, this is the thing, like, cause you see it. So for example, a lot of people were pissed at Bernie congratulating Kamala Harris. And it's like, yeah yeah now it makes total sense i mean a lot of these politicians whether it's reshita talib or bernie they're all completely outnumbered and they they they don't have any other choice but to basically kiss the ring but that's not to say

that like five months ago or three or four months ago or whatever that was necessarily the case um i think there was room to take some risks and to sort of articulate a sort of analysis that was separate from the democrats um now i don't know whether it would have worked or not it's entirely probable that it you know wouldn't have i have no idea wouldn't have but i don't know i just find it very interesting that um there's just not a lot of willingness to take those kind of risks and um and that to me just goes to show you that everybody is so completely cowed they're so fearful of what would happen if those risks were taken that uh there's no way to sort of steer this off of the course that it's on um right so i don't know i

mean what are we gonna say well i mean i was just gonna say to say, and granted, I mean, Brother Noam looks like he spent several years asleep in the woods. But did you see his comments about, like, our duty to vote and then get back to work? What did he say? I mean, what was so disappointing about that, to me, is, like, that exactly mirrors, like, what centrist politicians tell us to do right get out there protest and then like go vote do what you got to do and then get back out there and start working you know i mean voting is pretty like low demand low maintenance whatever you know what what the left really needs is someone to finally finally you need some way to synthesize these two facts internationally the global south makes the world's commodities and nationally inside the u.s the economy is 70 service economy you need to

somehow synthesize those two facts and articulate a political platform a political vision out of it because it needs to be both internationalist and related to this country but it's uh just been um i don't know it's not i don't know i don't even fucking know what i'm talking about man man mike davis did you read that mike davis piece when sort of the covid 19 thing kicked off yeah it's about like you know how like about the sort of workers in the global south yeah i think people should revisit that and also ask mike why he once had a poisonous amphibian that he would just like let out in his office when people would come over it was that's kind of wild what was it i don't know man he just had like a sack of lizards and toads that

that he just like let go in his office sometimes Every old socialist should have a sack of lizards and toads. You just carry around with you and release into a room full of people. I don't know about all that, but yeah. Well, anyways, that's been this week's edition of What the Left Really Needs with your two favorite cranks. Let's move on to something I may put you on the spot here. I'm sure you don't have it ready, but you had a segment for this week, a devil's milkshake. But I believe it was a little bit different than normal. I believe it was a devil's milkshake by proxy.

Well, let me ask you a question. You're familiar with, I mean, a lot of people are, I'm sure. But you're familiar with Munchausen's by proxy? Oh, yeah. You know, where the parent, like, basically makes the kid believe they have some sort of, like, incurable illness and whatever, whatever. Oh, yeah. Just like, yeah. I saw the HBObo show sharp objects

did you see the act on hulu no as another one so anyway we have a an innovation in the devil's milkshake this week with the revelation that vladimir putin allowed his daughter to take place in the sputnik 5-19 trials to which he said that she had a brief spike in her fever and that was the only negative side effect so given birth to a new concept called devil's milkshake by proxy okay now so this gets back to a debate we had i guess it was last week over how exactly anything related to covid could be a devil's milkshake yeah now i think that this okay let me just for those keeping score at home you vetoed the idea that herman kane met his end by a devil's milkshake. I did, yes.

I did. And the reason why is because I think for it to be a devil's milkshake it has to, like I said, it has to forego or foreclose on any kind of grievance or reparation for an injustice. Does that make sense? So a person was harmed. They claimed that X substance harmed them. The politician, as a way to not do anything about X substance,

ingests X substance, and that gets the person who was harmed to shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? When in reality, the devil of the devil's milkshake is in the dosage. So Barack Obama taking a sip of Flint water is not

tantamount to having to bathe and cook and drink that shit for many, many, many years. Exactly right. But the wonderful thing about the devil's milkshake is that it could possibly backfire you never know like for example shinzo abe i think it was shinzo abe eating the radioactive vegetables in the fukushima fallout zone i mean what happened What happened to Abe? Did he get cancer? No, nothing happened, but

you never know. You never know. I mean, the night's young. That's why it's Devil's Milkshake. It's a bargain. You don't know what exactly you're getting. But I think this falls... Man, we're gonna play with the devil. I think this falls into it because it's a vaccine and it's experimental.

Correct? Right. Right. So let me ask you a question. So what do you think is behind Putin's sort of clamoring to be the first here? Going so far as to call it Sputnik 5. has russian innovation just uh you know not what it used to be to the point where he's like willing to cut all these like safety measures out or is that really just bureaucratic red tape that we have to go through for our vaccines i think that russia is an incredibly um ambitious global power i mean putin is incredibly ambitious like part of the reason

why the oil prices collapsed below zero is because russia refused to cut oil production earlier this year that's how hubristic they are like hubristic and greedy but ultimately it was stupid because if you don't allow some sort of cut in production, prices are going to go down. Then you're not going to be able to sell your product. But again, that's sort of how hubristic and ambitious they are. Yeah. And I think that's the reason they called it the Sputnik 5, for Christ's sake. That just goes to show you that they're trying to...

They've kind of got their own mega thing going on uh i hope i hope it works and like it's proven to be safe and we all take it but all the liberals don't just out of principle because they don't want to stand with moscow or like you know the the cheeto sucker you know that liberals liberals love caricatures of Putin performing oral sex on Trump. Or Trump performing oral sex on Putin. They love that shit. That would be pretty goddamn funny. Yeah.

Us and... No, because here's the thing. The QAnon people aren't going to take any vaccine. No, they're anti-vaxxers. The libs also aren't going to take a vaccine and the libs are anti-vaxxers the libs also aren't going to take a vaccine if it comes from putin and trump um the left's best chance is to all of us get inoculated before everybody else and then we'll have unreasonable power right that does just go to show you how the the bonds between the libs and the q anon people are are much more uh alike than they were ready to admit exactly

yeah but so anyways putin did what with his daughter again so he allowed her to take place in the trials and she got the jab as the brits say and putin said that she's doing incredible and that it that the only thing that happened is her fever spiked briefly but now she's fine oh i see i see i i got some questions about this all right what do you got well i mean for starters you really gonna let your daughter go get pumped full of something that's probably got, like, lead and horse cum in it? You know what I mean? Well, that's why it's by proxy.

Yeah. And if so, why didn't you just jump out there and do it? It's so weird. Why did he say, me and my daughter took out there and do it it's you know so weird why did why did he say me and my daughter took it but no it's just his daughter well the interesting thing about putin is he's kind of an innovator when it comes to this new style of what you would call sort of authoritarian management like yeah in many ways at least this is the thesis of like adam kurt people like adam curtis putin's the kind of progenitor of the idea uh that um societies don't really need political

leaders anymore they just need managers they need people who can just sort of um need managers they need people who can just sort of um uh progress their global ambitions at the sort of geopolitical level and you know obviously putin's doing that but at at the domestic level just sort of like yeah manage people through algorithms uh through social media, these other forms of sort of like coercion. So I think that what we're seeing here is that the devil's milkshake is an older form of political theater. I think it reigns supreme. I don't know when the earliest example

of the devil's milkshake is. I know, I can't. If we ever bring back Profiles in Courage, we need to find the earliest example we can of the devil's milkshake and make that person the Profile in Courage. I wholeheartedly agree. But Putin may be

doing something... This is also not... Because, like, look, actually, now that I think about it, you know how kings used to have like taste testers like to test if there was poison in their food that was kind of a devil's milkshake now they're doing the same thing but now it's like with their loved ones with their family members they're like look if my daughter can do it then it's totally

fine for anyway it's probably like one of those things like nobody knew that Putin had a daughter anyway so even if she died if she dies she dies right right like some Yvonne drug right um probably doesn't actually even have a daughter you're probably right Well look We're at an hour But there's one more thing I wanted to cover before we go Okay This comes to us by way of the New York Times

It is an opinion piece Won by an author We've never Covered on the show I don't think um but who i know is a favorite of yours and mine i'm speaking of course about roth do that ross do that i'm sorry roth roth do set roth do set what to do when covid doesn't go away. Lessons for coronavirus long haulers from my own experience with chronic illness. Oh boy.

Is Ross is he is he a chronic Lyme guy? He is a chronic Lyme guy. Amazing. Amazing. I picked this because it dovetails

With so many Trailbillies Interests Give this to me please I need this Finding out that Ross Duthat is a chronic Lyme guy Is one of the best things That happened to me this week

Um Among the many things that nobody knows About the disease that has overturned our lives is how long its effects last i don't just mean the possibility of coronavirus damage lurking invisibly in the heart or lungs or brain i mean the simpler question of what it takes and how long for some uncertain percentage of the sick to actually feel better. And then he goes on to say that, he goes on to talk about in the Atlantic,

Ed Yong wrote this piece about COVID long haulers. That's Yong's terminology. People whose sickness don't go away in just a month, but they have persistent coughs. They have that classic chronic symptom, brain fog, internal organ pain, bowel problems, tremors, relapsing fevers, more. I just want to say that I have all of these. I have brain fog. I have all these. I mean, you don't need any advanced degrees to see I suffer from brain fog sometimes.

Right. Here's my thing on this. Here's where i want to point out the distinction i think this would be the you know again i'm uh you know a humble hypochondriac not a medical professional but lyme disease is caused by bacteria right whereas coronavirus is caused by a virus and that's where a guy of letters from harvard should know there's some differences here buddy just wait until you hear what he has to say about them well i mean but you know what i'm saying like a rudimentary like like any idiot that has like just a working knowledge of how immunology works. Or not even immunology, but virology. And infectious disease knows that viruses stay in your system for good. Right. Suppressed, you know, oftentimes with medicines

or just by your immune response or whatever. Whereas bacterial infections, typically, if you get through the initial period, your immune system takes them out fairly quickly. Right that doesn't matter to ross ross also it should be noted i don't even know if ross believes in germ theory uh he is pretty trad you know so he probably thinks that like humors and pungent smells still cause illness, if I had to guess. Right. He says, I am a long hauler. My whole family was sick in March with COVID-like symptoms, and though the one test we obtained was negative, I'm pretty sure... I just know it was COVID.

I'm pretty sure we had the thing itself, and my own symptoms took months rather than weeks to disappear. But unlike many of the afflicted, I didn't find the experience particularly shocking because I have a prior long-haul experience of my own. In the spring of 2015, I was bitten by a deer tick, and the effects of the subsequent illness, a combination of Lyme disease and a more obscure tick-borne infection,

Bartonella, have been with me ever since. Lyme disease in its chronic form, or per official medical parlance, post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome, is a fiendishly complicated and controversial subject.

And what I learned from the experience would and will at some point fill a book. So watch for that hot fire drop summer 2000. I'll speak that book on Chronic Lime. Yes. I hope it's like in the style of a self-help thing. It will be. I'm sure. It's like how you can beat chronic lyme by

switching to it like a dairy only diet well he then switches it might be because what he does now is he switches to explaining how you can beat the long-term symptoms of covid through his own experiences with chronic lyme oh boy he says there are a few lessons that are worth passing along to anyone whose encounter with the pandemic of 2020 has left them feeling permanently transformed for the worse. The first is

impatience is your friend. With most illnesses get some rest and drink fluids and you'll probably feel better is excellent advice, which is why doctors offer it so consistently. But if you don't feel better after a reasonable duration, then you shouldn't just try to endure stoically while hoping that maybe you're making microscopic progress.

I lost months to my own illness taking that approach. If you feel like you need something else to get better, some outside intervention, something more than just your own beleaguered body's resources, be impatient and find a way to go in search of it. So, we've established the hallmark of chronic Lyme, right? You are your own doctor. Which, again, I mean, I think we discussed this on this recent episode we were talking about. Like, I totally understand wanting to be your own doctor because doctors can be terrifying many of them are psychopaths a lot of them because they sometimes hold life and death in their hands confuse themselves for

deities that's true right um but advice number two if your doctor struggles to help you you'll need to help yourself now that would be reasonable advice if it was for chronic lyme right right but for covid i'm not sure that you should be helping yourself i mean mean, essentially what he's saying, and I'll just read this part. Modern medicine... I don't think you should go take the waters at Our Lady of Guadalupe if you actually have active symptoms. Tom, don't you understand? You should be trying Reiki energy if you've got COVID-like symptoms. Modern medicine...

Do what? No, go ahead. Modern medicine works marvels, but it's built to treat acute conditions and well-known diseases. A completely novel virus that seems to hang around for months is neither. Add in all the other burdens on the medical system at the moment and the understandable focus on the most life-threatening COVID cases. And it may be extremely difficult to find a doctor who can guide and support a labyrinthine recovery process.

So to some uncertain extent, you may need to become your own doctor. Or if you're too sick for that, to find someone who can help you on your journey, notwithstanding the absence of an MD beside their name. Okay. You should get into homeo. So what's it going for here? He says, trust your own experience of your body. Experiment, experiment, experiment. This is what he says.

Experiment, experiment, experiment. This is what he says. There is no treatment yet for long-haul COVID that meets the standard of a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trial, which means that the FDA-stamped medical consensus can't be your only guide if you're trying to break a systemic debilitating curse. The realm beyond that consensus has, yes, plenty of quacks, perils, and overpriced placebos, but it also includes treatments that may help you, starting with basic herbs and vitamins and expanding into things that, well, let's just say I wouldn't have ever imagined myself trying before I became ill myself. He says the internet is your friend. You need to research on the internet. Ask God to help you and keep asking when he doesn't seem to answer.

He says, I mean this very seriously. And then he says, you can get better. I said earlier that my own illness is still with me five years later, but not in anything like the same way. I was wrecked, destroyed, despairing. Now I'm better, substantially better. And I believe that with enough time and experimentation, I will actually be well. The thing about all this. Okay, okay.

Before you go there, Terrence, I just want to point something out. Ross Douthat does not even know if for a fact he had COVID. Listen, I'm a hypochondriac, so I have made up in my head that i have suffered from many afflictions and i am also aware of the brain body connection that that will sometimes let you think that if you dwell on it too hard but guess what i've never had a medical doctor tell me that i've had a lot of things that i'm afraid that i've had. Right, right. Like, this is honestly the ramblings of a sick man, but not sick in the way he thinks he is. I mean, essentially what it amounts to,

I mean, the thing about Chronic Lime and, I don't know, there's all kinds of conclusions you can draw from this. Terrence, let me ask you a question. What? What if you wrote, what me ask you a question. What? What if you were a national columnist at a big paper, okay? And you had never been diagnosed with, say, HIV.

And yet you write an article that's called My Long Journey with HIV. You're right. What he's essentially saying is that because I have chronic Lyme, I can empathize with people having COVID, even though I've never had COVID, and even though chronic Lyme might not even be real. Right.

There's a lot of ifs here. There's a lot of but fors here. You're right. you're absolutely right oh my he is such a weird man dude he is a weird ass i mean um i mean i kind of like ross uh you know in the sense that like he's he's not like banal like Bret Stephens is, you know? Yeah. He's got a truly idiosyncratic ideology. Traditional Catholicism.

Yeah, yeah. But you're right. It would be akin to somebody saying, look, if you're still experiencing HIV symptoms long after the original symptoms were away, which basically you'd be talking about AIDS, just don't worry about it. Like, the internet is your friend.

Experiment all you want. You're your own doctor. Don't listen to what the doctors say. I mean, I don't know. What you invariably run into with all these things is like, yeah, the medical system is so flawed and fucked up and terrifying that it is scary to not really have a trusted medical doctor to go to. But I think that all these things are, again, they're just symptoms of a larger sort of systemic failure. Right. think that all these things are again they're just symptoms of a larger sort of systemic failure right uh and furthermore it's very very fucking funny to me that the new york times has a columnist who is a chronic lyme guy dude

i mean like consider what the right has there's a very specific pathology there you've got QAnoners you've got chronic limers I don't know man the chronic Lyme thing is weird because it can be both right-wing anti-vaxxers but it can also be like bougie upper middle class upper class influencers right like um I think the chronic Lyme thing's I don't know I don't know we wanted to talk about it one time but I can't remember if we actually

did my brain is so atrophied I think we walked on eggshells because we were afraid Tanya might be a chronic Lymer laughter laughter laughter eggshells because we were afraid tanya might be a chronic limer no i always i always walk on eggshells on these topics because i know somewhere amongst our listenership is a chronic lime person i remember what it was now it was that horrible failed episode about the comet neo wise and uh we tried it once it should have been great the one that got away yeah i think that was it but i don't know dude well in any case in any case speaking

of ones that got away um sorry you had to listen to to two men who were in the throes of their own mad, you know, lost grips on reality. But I hope it was at least somewhat entertaining. Anything else to say, Tommy? Anything else to say, Tommy? Man, I just want to apologize to the Biden campaign for making comments that were deemed wrecker-ish. Wrecker, have you heard this term, wrecker? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah, I've been accused of being a wrecker. Some people that are supporting Joe and Kamala, I just want to apologize to those people

and say yes, I will vote for the ticket, and I apologize for anything deemed inappropriate by the batters over there, Team Joe. You're forgiven. Okay. Go out and don't be a wrecker and decolonize your spaces folks

that's another word I've been hearing a lot I don't know what the fuck decolonize your spaces don't peddle right wing talking points about Joe Biden being a brain addled simp I saw someone accuse us of peddling right wing talking points

dude that is a fascinating thing we were saying that joe biden was losing his marbles before the right wing took that up that is not a right wing talking point they took it from us yeah you know how like we got like a handful of mcconnell staffers that listen to our show just because we like trash mcgrath yeah or whatever yeah i wonder if like they're like, what if secretly on the low that Trill Billy Workers Party is how the right's taking their pulse and that's where they're getting all their talking points from. Could be, man.

Think about it, though. You got a couple of guys that are working for the top guy over there. Could be. You never know. Yeah, we could be crypto neocons and not even know it. Which, McConaughey's not a neocon, but you know what I mean. Crypto neocons. Well, anyways, thanks for listening, everybody.

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