Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 275: Crystal Privilege

Episode Date: January 19, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I almost choked myself trying to save somebody from a misophonia attack. See? I swallowed that prematurely because the recording started and it wasn't ready to be swallowed. So I hope that's what happened. That's what happens when y'all try to tell the master what to do, how to proceed. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Yeah, that's true. You wouldn't tell a samurai how to do, how to proceed. That's right. You wouldn't tell a samurai how to swing his sword. How to disembowel himself or someone else. You wouldn't. But that's what's going to wind up happening.
Starting point is 00:00:38 You're going to swallow something too fast and get disemboweled. Have you seen the speaking of telling the master how to do things have you seen the the privileged discourse last couple of days oh thank god no there's a new victim there's a new victim what's the what's the new his name's rick rick rubin oh the legendary rick rubin he's the latest victim of... He's the latest one to be called out, not called in.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I saw whispers of this. Can you bring me and Aaron up to date? Basically, I guess he's got a book out, which seems like on the surface of it, kind of a vibes book. And then he's got a 60 Minutes interview coming out, guess sunday with anderson cooper where he confesses that he has no technical expertise he doesn't really play
Starting point is 00:01:35 any instruments which i think he's kind of just letting a little bit i remember distinctly watching that motherfucker chop up the samples for 99 jay-z's 99 problems he made that beat i remember watched that in the the black album documentary anyway so he says he has no technical expertise he doesn't really know how to use a soundboard basically he just trusts his tastes and intuition and artists benefit from his tastes and intuition uh which i mean the results don't lie you know what i mean the results don't lie they're pretty clear say what you want about ruben but i don't know what is he i don't know his like like beastie boys right but like well blood sugar sex magic red hot chili peppers well then he found what found he found a def jam please found a def jam with russell please defend red hot chili peppers i i don't i i don't hate all the chili peppers
Starting point is 00:02:40 but hold up but like i should say their output but but tom this is the thing though tom turns it's like so i guess the privilege because so i guess the discourse is saying that he benefited from like off the backs of all these like you know black artists right is that what people are saying no no no no they're saying only an old rich white man would have the audacity to come out and say he got rich off vibes but he's not so they're not even saying he's like a culture vulture you know what i mean like yeah like you know he's founder of def jam or whatever like i figured that would be the thing to hit him on right or whatever like it's sort of gatekept black culture or something like something like that that would that would be more of a that would be more of an apt like criticism but i still think it's not
Starting point is 00:03:30 fair but still it would be like more in line with what they're saying but really they're just mad about his vibes are we gatekeeping racially gatekeeping vibes now is that what is that is that the like you know like where we've ended up at that That's how we're going to start 2023. I've seen a lot of people actually mad about this clip, about him confessing that he has no technical expertise, which in the music world, I think producer is a little different. In the movie world, if you just kicked in some money on a movie, you get a producer credit. In film, if you had some sort of contribution
Starting point is 00:04:04 that facilitated the end product, you usually get some sort of producer credit or something like that. In music, the connotation is that you either constructed the track or you sort of coached. Because I've always wondered how Phil Spector produced, or people like that that produced bands. He did it by murdering someone. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Bad example. If you want to talk vibes. He did it the old-fashioned way. He did it the old-fashioned way. The original vibe. Yeah, that's right. Murder was the first vibe. The pioneer way a cane and abel came was like man this is giving murder vibes yeah uh yeah there's what who i who killed cane killed abel
Starting point is 00:04:58 cane standing up cane standing above abel with a big stone ready to bash his head in or whatever and abel is just like man i don't know what you're planning to do with that, but the vibes are fucked. Murder vibes. Will your brother piss you off and murder the vibe? Yeah. I don't know, Tom. I'm looking at his output here.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm the... This is the thing. Well, I'm not saying for my personal taste i'm saying i'm saying that he's a lot of records he's produced have sold a lot of records but they're vibes records though like weezer you know what i'm saying like yeezus may be the ultimate vibes record yeah like he's an all music a vibe basically like come on he's writing a book they're coming out with a book their creative act a way of being it's literally he's a vibes guy he is a vibes guy he's really monetized vibes he produced an
Starting point is 00:05:58 avet brothers album did you did you know he also hey listen Jordan missed a few shots Dude I'm in a bad mood today So I'm gonna take down Rick Rubin Dude fuck this Let's see He also produced Andrew Dice Clay Two albums Two Andrew Dice Clay albums
Starting point is 00:06:18 I mean I don't know how you do that I will say that He also produced Slayer Slayer one of the more overrated bands of all time dude I like Slayer I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with you on every single thing today you're gonna be controlling let's see I know it didn't he produce Kid Rock's American Badass? Oh, I bet he did. He also did some, he's got some U2 and Linkin Park
Starting point is 00:06:50 sprinkled in the mix. Would y'all say that Rick Rubin was like low key and high key, the eminent vibes curator of like the late 20th century? Sort of seems like. He could be. Well, I mean, I don't know how you get into a position like that without having some technical expertise, right?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Unless you just like really convincingly, I don't know. I guess you're like really able to convince people that you know what is going to sound good. I mean, I guess if you have like, okay, what I'm saying is like, he would need a sidekick right like someone who knows how to turn the knobs and push the the levers on the
Starting point is 00:07:31 mix board well once you've sold enough vibes you can afford to have a knobs guy who's his knobs guy you talking about i don't know really it's like a jack kirby to his stand yeah he needs he needs a knobs guy like if you're gonna he needs a guy who actually does shit yeah dude someone's personally i hate this criticism for a couple reasons one it's sort of it's sort of denoting the end of the ideas guy you know like there was a time when a man could get paid for his whims and now well let me ask you a question about that tom because i was thinking about that the other day uh i'm writing again writing my retirement plan to be an idea paid off my whims whims guy it's like back in the day right like you could be because like i'm
Starting point is 00:08:17 writing stories now right and i'm like dude nobody's gonna read this shit anymore it would be really tight if back in the day you could just be the town thinker right you could be the public intellectual right you didn't even have to really produce anything right but these people were only able to do that because they were like patronized or funded by like wealthy and rich fucking people you know right where they had to do that shit yeah that's something really about how the whole sort of like art versus commerce and like how the interplay between those two things goes. I think you're right. I think we need to get back to where every town had a public intellectual,
Starting point is 00:08:57 and I really think that's what Taylor Sheraton's tried to do with Tulsa King, with Sylvester Stallone. I think Dwight Manfredi is just Tulsa's sort of public intellectual. Yeah, intellectual, yeah. In that show, for those that have seen the program. Does that mean that Rick Rubin was someone, some town's intellectual,
Starting point is 00:09:17 and they sent him, like he was Robespierre or something to Nashville? Yeah. Say, go make us proud. Rick, go make us proud and go, us proud and go bring back good vibes. Go spread the word. Rick Rubin's an interesting cat. I think he kind of came up in the Brooklyn punk scene, right?
Starting point is 00:09:34 And then discovered Beastie Boys famously, discovered Run DMC with Russell Simmons. Oh, okay. And they founded Def Jam. That's what you got to do then. You have to discover someone early on, and then... He got in on the ground floor rap, basically. Well, that's why vibes.
Starting point is 00:09:52 He kind of mainstreamed rap, basically. That's kind of like how... Why he's rich is not vibes. He's rich because, basically, he, along with Russell Simmons, really were able to... Think about who they discovered. LL Cool J, Run DMC.
Starting point is 00:10:10 A murderer's row of the early rap guys that really... Pioneered rap. It also took it mainstream. Yeah, it took it mainstream. Outside of just some 12 inches here and there and block block parties and all that, like really made it a genre. And not for nothing, it's still the biggest selling genre to this day. Damn, man. It's like in perpetuity.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Those guys are eating. Yeah. Man, you got me thinking, man. Like the way that he was able to kind of tap this like nascent success you know what i mean like around this nascent subculture before it became mainstream to help it become mainstream it feels like there's no more like lands to conquer there's no more mountains to conquer you know what i'm saying no more plateaus you know like it's like going to the moon when you're 27 what are you gonna do you know like what did what, go to Space Camp?
Starting point is 00:11:05 What are you, like, 35? Anytime you're burdened down with the heavy hand of time coming for you, just think about that. Just be like, well, at least I'm not Buzz Aldrin. You know, or did he go to the moon, or who was it? Armstrong? Neil Armstrong. Neil Armstrong.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Armstrong? Neil Armstrong. Neil Armstrong. Who is credited with going to the moon but publicly claims that we never went? What? Wasn't it Aldrin where he was like Jay Leno or something? No, it wasn't Aldrin because someone confronted him
Starting point is 00:11:39 and said that we didn't actually go and Buzz Aldrin knocked him out. He knocked him out. He knocked him out, yeah. Wait, this is a whole different tip so wait a dude went to the moon and then somehow came back years later one of the guys that went to i mean if it was you put yourself in his shoes if you went to the moon and came back like would you believe it i i don't think i would i'd be like yeah that didn't happen that was a fever dream yeah i was in a fugue state this is when the cia was experimenting with lsd one of them i think one of them was like somebody had said and made the comment to him like oh i saw
Starting point is 00:12:21 you like on the moon he's like no you didn't because we didn't have cameras like that in the 60s what you saw was like a reproduction of us going to the moon i saw you hey i saw you down at the bar i saw you at the moon this weekend i looked out the window and saw you up there you're just walking around that would be the damnedest thing is to to accomplish a feat that like not many people get to do and then nobody saw it it wasn't recorded for posterity yeah man yeah dude that's like that's like when uh i catch something before it falls yeah like and i look around nobody's like so what would have happened if they would have left Earth and forgot the camera? Like, ah, fuck. We gotta go back.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Man. Neil forgot the camera. You're never gonna believe this. But y'all know, though, that I think Kubrick actually, like, he was in the NASA control center or whatever, kind of, like, managing, like, the camera. You know what I mean? And, like, the shots and shit shots and shit like that because like they wanted it to look cinematic you know huh yeah so they got a feel an actual filmmaker to set up the shots in such a way that would make it look like okay like a fucking you know like the most cinematic and theatrical it could well they should have got a guy like rick rubin who didn't know what he was doing and was just going for vibes that would have been a much better guys i would tell you up front
Starting point is 00:13:48 you've hired me as your camera guy but i have no technical expertise but i just feel like i know what this moon landing should look like i'm getting it on the ground floor so anyway people were really mad that r Rick Rubin would have the audacity to cop to having basically no technical expertise in the field that he is renowned for. That should be inspiring. Yeah, you're right. It should be inspiring. Nobody like, look at fucking, look at my boy George Santos or some shit, you know what I'm saying? Just faking his whole way, you know, through his career and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Not to say Rick Rubin fake shit, but you know what I mean? That, to me, is way more impressive. Yeah. People don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're just, like, winging it. They're just like, hey, yeah. And then one day you wake up and you're a fucking representative. Would you rather have been the producer of Blood Sugar Sex Magic
Starting point is 00:14:50 or assume the reins of power? I don't know. It's kind of a lateral move when you get right down. I mean, honestly, who has more power, though? Rick Rubin, definitely. Rick Rubin has more of a lasting, impacted legacy than George Santos. more at peace with himself too i have to say that like what's the historiography on red hot chili peppers like are they surely the kids aren't like bumping red hot chili peppers as they leave the parking lot after school these days like like it feels like one of those flash in the pan bands like i don't like
Starting point is 00:15:27 they were huge for like 10 15 years right but like you mean like it only could have existed at the time like it's like uh i'm trying to think of an example like i don't know think about like like like a voice machine an answering machine you know yeah like there's just that shit popped up in a flash in the pan at what historical moment in juncture and then nobody uses those shits anymore you know listen y'all say that all right but it seems like every four or five years the chili peppers come with like a like a huge record yeah like everybody thought oh blood sugar sex magic that's it man and then they closed their fucking eyes, man.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Stadium Arcadium was there one day. Well, I think... Everybody's like, God damn, please. The boys have blown my dick off again. I think you're missing a few steps. Was it their Californication? Oh, yeah, that's right. It was in between.
Starting point is 00:16:18 People say, since at least 1999, Ruben has been criticized by listeners for contributing to a phenomenon in music known as the loudness war, in which the dynamic range of recorded music is compressed and sometimes clipped in order to increase the general loudness. Albums produced by Rubin that have been criticized for such treatment include the following. Californication by Red Hot Chili Peppers. Tim Anderson of The Guardian criticized its, quote, excessive compression and distortion, peppers tim anderson of the guardian criticized its quote excessive compression and distortion and stylist magazine said that it suffered from so much digital clipping that quote even non-audiophile consumers complained about hold up hold up motherfuckers complaining about rock music
Starting point is 00:16:55 being loud is that what i'm hearing it's too loud and the watts have sensitive ears, which you gotta understand. We weren't bred for it, man. I don't know. When I lived with... My eardrums. When I lived with Tom, it'd be like 8 in the morning, and this motherfucker would just put on, like, fucking Future or something, and, like, cranking it up. That's because I'm deaf.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I can't hear shit. Like, I starred at 22. deaf i can't hear shit like i starred at 22 terrence would just be getting the crust out of his eyes and just hear i just fucked your bitch hit some gucci flip-flops emanating from the kitchen that's a hell of a way to wake up though oh shit it makes sense though that rick rubin is quoted as saying acdc is his favorite band he thinks acdc is the greatest band of all time because clearly the man makes music for stadium acts yeah yeah he's he's he sounds like the michael bay of music yeah yeah yeah i guess that's probably
Starting point is 00:18:00 a fair comparison did you not not like his Johnny Cash records? I'm Johnny Cash. The Rick Rubin Johnny Cash records? Yeah. Yeah, it was good. Didn't they do that, what was the Nine Inch Nails, Hurt? Yeah, it was good. I didn't know that music was getting louder.
Starting point is 00:18:23 TV's getting quieters getting quieter getting quiet music's turning darker and darker man i can never see anything anymore it is true i i fucking hate watching tv and like when there's a disparity between the the commercial volume and the tv volume and it like cuts to commercial or whatever and, and it blows you out of the house. But then you go back to the show, and you have to really lean in to hear what they're saying. And then I got to turn on subtitles. But then I'm caught between looking at the subtitles and watching what's on the screen. So I turn the subtitles off, and then I turn it back on because it's too low.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I hate that shit, man. It seems like if you were a sound guy worth half a fuck you would just be raking in the dough right now because whoever's doing sound tv these guys these motherfuckers need to be excommunicated why don't they just get rick rubin man he needs to he needs to make that lateral movement to sound production for movies and TV. That's right. That's right. Anyway. The privilege discourse was interesting around. I mean, I feel like that's a slippery slope because Rick Rubin's Jewish.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And so, like, basically what they're saying is that, like, he only got famous and successful because Jews run the music industry. They run the world like that's what's implied so it's a slippery slope once you start six degrees everything like i said before man everything is six seven degrees away from a racism from bigotry man even privileged discourse even privileged dudes even even a rich white dude like rick rubin see hmm unbelievable well it's hilarious because uh 80 of the people lodging these complaints also are into crystal so it's like which is fine which is fine also listen i'm not knocking it that's fine but you gotta call it both ways straps You can't be a vibes person and throw
Starting point is 00:20:26 stuck-ass stones at other vibes people. Throw crystals at other vibes people. I guess I've never thought about it, but, like, are crystals harvested in the same industrial manner as, like, diamonds and shit? Like, are there, like, abhorrent working conditions in the crystal mines?
Starting point is 00:20:43 Oh my god. Like, are people, like like losing limbs to like uh to fucking stock these goddamn witchcraft stores it's a it's a fair inquiry are they are they like uh uh stealing these crystals that are looked at as like uh precious spiritual religious objects you know yeah you gotta figure that out i don't know yeah somebody uh emaciated just because you have to you know consult the wisdom you know gotta look into it i say yeah i agree we all have privilege man um yeah you got you got crystal privilege you got spiritual privilege that's a funny concept
Starting point is 00:21:35 imagine what you got privilege because you're more at peace you're more spiritually at peace than me what if not not from like like like absent any sort of racial or cultural factors or anything, but what if religions jockeyed for class standing? Like in what terms? Who has the most members? Well, the funny thing is I'm a Pentecostal right i was raised pentecostal which is generally looked at as a poor man's religion right yet like the great value like like the great value uh what other denomination right the store store brand uh protestant uh yeah well it's
Starting point is 00:22:20 sort of well pentecost is sort of on the margins of prostitutes. Anyway, yet, all the TV preachers and all that stuff belong to that denomination. All the people that flaunt their wealth gratuitously. It's an interesting thing to think about. What if we just enter our individual faiths in the privilege discourse? Yeah. You have more privilege because... Do Muslims enjoy privileges that I don't? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Well, they're getting into heaven. That's true. We're not. We're not. There's one thing right off the bat. Oh, shit, man bat Oh shit man Oh man I still haven't Speaking of religion
Starting point is 00:23:13 I've been shopping around For belief systems And haven't come upon any yet man You just gotta keep trying There's a lot out there A whole lot Have you tried Zoroastrianism upon any yet, man. You've got to keep trying. There's a lot out there. A whole lot. Have you tried Zoroastrianism?
Starting point is 00:23:30 That one is... No. That one sounds dope. Right? Isn't that like the original religion? It's the original... The original monotheism. The OG monotheism. They don't really recruit, but their numbers are dwindling at a rate that you might have a puncher's chance of them changing the rules.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah. You think I could be a Zoroastrian televangelist? That would be interesting, at least. I think they bury people in towers, right? Don't they bury you in a tower? Was that it? I think so. they put you on top of a tower and vultures come by and pick you apart i think that's what it was like a ziggurat type of
Starting point is 00:24:12 shit yeah that would be so fucking cool so what if instead of a mega church i had just had a ziggurat yeah you you deserve a ziggurat you do deserve a ziggurat i think i do deserve a Ziggurat. You do deserve a Ziggurat. I think I do deserve a Ziggurat. Shit, man. I'm sure that shit would be tax exempt, right? Yeah. Somebody should test the waters, man. Because I know that Church of Satan built that statue of Satan in front of
Starting point is 00:24:41 what was it? Louisiana Church House or something? Oklahoma. State House or something? Oklahoma yeah what else you looking into it's that zoroastrianism and no man dot dot dot thinking of like uh like uh animism man well i don't know if that's a religion so much as a belief system the same thing all right yeah right that everything has its own little life in it you know all life is precious like uh what's it called pantheism i don't know what's that yeah i think that like everything is god or like janeism i guess too oh yeah this is a little different i knew a jane actually named dr jane
Starting point is 00:25:25 you knew a jane named dr jane i don't remember much except he didn't eat meat and in particular he didn't eat i can't remember him taking us out to dinner and i was like what are you gonna get you gonna get this he's like no no i don't i'm because he? Yeah. See, man, that's the thing. I'm not a picky eater, but if I subscribe to any faith, I got to be able to eat meat, man. Yeah. Yeah. You got to eat the swine, yo.
Starting point is 00:25:58 So instantly, Islam and Judaism out. I thought about the nation, man, but I was like, ugh. You would look good in the attire, though, I have to say. You would. I think I would, man. I think I would. Yeah, they definitely have the best style. I'll say that. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You know, or I could just, like, I don't know, man. Like, we live in this era of pastiches and mashing shit together, you know? Maybe just throw a little Zoroastrianism in it. Listen, don't take this as an offense, but what about Rastafarianism? Seems like your natural fit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Man, I've genuinely thought about that before. Like, seriously. because i used to have a friend jamaica and when you got the ethiopian connection right and i smoke weed all the time you just fuck with lions do you believe that emperor haile selassie was jesus christ reincarnate that's really the deciding factor lying short if you if you can get over that hump and forget what happened during the second Abyssinian-Atal war, then it might be the stop for you. The diet seems like I do. I think the Etal diet is pretty tight. I used to eat at this Etal restaurant in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It was like always like good. And you left not only full but feeling like i made a good choice today kind of like when you like fuck with the rubber you're like you know i don't really have anything to worry about really yeah like you're proud of yourself for making an adult decision i took care of myself i looked out for myself yeah i looked out for my future self right no man i had a home girl who uh i used to go over there and uh she used to braid my hair when i had hair and uh her parents were rastafarians and they used to have like a picture above the door of hail salasi and the
Starting point is 00:27:59 fucking lions you know what i mean and like I didn't know anything about, like, what the specific tenets of Rastafarianism was, but the food was really good. And, of course, they smoked a lot of weed, but the food was awesome, man. Yeah. Food really good. Also, I mean, you know, Selassie is, you know, as far as emperors go,
Starting point is 00:28:20 he's an interesting cat. Again, if you're erasing from your mind that the strange bedfellows the second italian war man you know he did sort of like i guess one of his things that he did was he he uh liberalized ethiopia's like educational system because he wanted people to have university educations and access to knowledge. He allowed Marxism to be taught in universities, which would probably be unwise
Starting point is 00:28:52 because he let Marxism be taught, and then they ousted him. But as far as ousting goes, it was a pretty decent one because he got to live in his state with his lions for the rest of his days. He just didn't run shit.
Starting point is 00:29:08 He didn't try to fight back? He didn't try to have a counter-coup? I don't know. I just remember that one of the Ethiopian revolutions was just led by some shithead college students that learned Marx after he had liberalized education in Ethiopia. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Danger of woke college campuses, man. You know.
Starting point is 00:29:34 That brings up an interesting... Have you tried wokeism? Because it's a religion, apparently. Wokeism? Wokeism is a religion. I don't know if you thought about that. No, I know. What does that entail? What are the tenets of wokeism well the first thing is you got to go uh to the pharmacy and take an mrna virus uh jab yeah that's the first thing you must be infected with the woke
Starting point is 00:29:59 mind virus to go any further in the faith i Nah. I have to infect myself. Okay. Yeah, you have to give yourself... You have to be vaccine injured to carry on in the faith. So, yeah. That's the first thing. And then you get the shakes. You get the shakes.
Starting point is 00:30:19 You start seizing up. Dude, that was so funny. Why do they always go to that anytime somebody wants to point out like the dangers of the vaccine they always so sure like show somebody like like they've got parkinson's or something because that's the only that's the only thing you can do i mean what are you gonna do you're gonna throw up right you're gonna make yourself throw up yeah you can't i guess it's the only like visually Yeah Would you go tell somebody Would you go tell somebody you're the habit of seizure
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like nah you'd be like okay Or maybe he's doing the Harlem shake I don't know Yeah or maybe if you pan down He was like doing the shake weight Something like that There is that interesting article in the New York Times About a Scientific It was There is that interesting article in the New York Times about a scientific...
Starting point is 00:31:06 It was... Hold on. The New York Times. What happened to all of science's big breakthroughs? A new study finds a steady drop since 1945 in disruptive feats as a share of the world's booming enterprise in scientific and technological advancement. Wait a second. So they're saying we haven't actually made that much ground since 1945. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Are they saying that technological, because isn't it something like Moore's Law, like exponential technological progress or something like that? So are they saying that has slowed significantly since world war ii they're saying science is out of business science is out of business all right clean up shop well this is a far cry from what we've been taught over all we've been taught is that science is all the time making these new advancements and all of a sudden we're in a fucking viral wasteland. Nobody knows where it's safe to go and not.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah, yeah. I mean, no, man. It's after all that shit they found after Roswell, man. They've used up all the technology. They've used it all up. They've used it all up. And in 2000, the last thing was the iPhone that came out. God damn, that is true. The alien that landed did have an iphone but it was like an
Starting point is 00:32:26 iphone 3 and they were like we can improve upon this they started with the iphone 3 well that was their first phone right out of the gate i guess i mean well they had to make it it was called they had to make it they had to make it look like it was their idea. So they had an iPhone 1 based on the alien's iPhone 3. The alien iPhone 3. So by the time we got to our iPhone 3, that was like their iPhone 1, basically. Yeah, that was their iPhone 1, basically. I remember reading in the Steve Jobs biography
Starting point is 00:33:01 that he basically lifted the idea for the iPad from Xerox. Like, Xerox had a patent on the iPad technology in 1977. And Steve Jobs was touring the Xerox facility and I guess lingered a little long at the little screen that you use your finger on and said, you know what? He was just printing shit out. In 30 years. Yeah, he's like, hey, could you run off a copy of this for me?
Starting point is 00:33:30 And he puts his ass on the glass. His narrow, wrinkly ass. Steve Jobs just running off a bunch of copies of his ass. A little bit of his balls the iphone is with the ipad is here folks yeah about that hey listen you see this is this is kind of what we would say before with rick with rick rubin it's like like not even just vibes but also just being at the right place at the right historical time, you know? Nobody's coming up with iPhones anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You see, that's why there's no more scientific breakthroughs, man. All the Steve Jobs, like all of our great civil rights leaders, man, they've been murdered or died or exiled or shamed. Or all those. Well, it's a weird time. I remember. Do you remember, do you remember like, I guess that was probably seven, eight years ago, whatever. When the Ebola scare,
Starting point is 00:34:31 that guy got on the plane with Ebola and the world kind of stopped moving for about half an hour. And Obama said, listen, we've got this nipped in the bud. I remember sitting down at Dairy Queen and voicing my concerns with the pending ebola crisis i said you don't think this is you don't think you think he's got us don't you
Starting point is 00:34:53 think obama's gonna take care of this don't you what was my response i can't remember where you landed on it but i remember very vocally saying man I'm worried about Ebola I think Obama's gonna handle it that's the thing people don't realize that's what George Bush was dealing with on 9-11 it's like there was a few people on all those planes that had Ebola and he had to do something with them he couldn't just let them land
Starting point is 00:35:18 so that's why he crashed them into the towers he's like this is the path of least resistance this is harm reduction he called 9-11 is harm reduction he called 9-11 was harm reduction for george was harm reduction it's like we kill 1500 white-collar criminals or or this gets out in the general population spreads like wildfire you know i can't have that on me yeah i know that three thousand or three billion you choose yep it's like it's kind of like the conceit of that new shamalan movie i've seen the previews for that starring dave batista what that 9-11 was harm reduction
Starting point is 00:35:54 what's the twist at the end it was the shamalan i think it's called knock at the Cabin Door or something like that. Okay. Basically, I guess from the trailer, it looks like this family goes on vacations in this cabin in the woods, and Dave Bautista and company step up and say, Listen, one of you has to be a sacrifice, otherwise civilization's going to end. And every time they tell them no, like, some sort of major catastrophe happens that kills, like, hundreds of thousands of people,
Starting point is 00:36:29 it's like, do you believe us now? Mm-hmm. Do you believe us now? And one of them has to go in order to make this stuff happen? One of them has to go. It's like a daughter, a father, and presumably either a brother or uncle or a father
Starting point is 00:36:40 with no child present. You gotta pick the oldest person. What do you do in that situation? Wasn't this a movie about the Holocaust called Sophie's Choice? Didn't they have to like pick? Yeah, I don't think they're reinventing the wheel here with this.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Wait, they named the Holocaust movie Sophie's Choice? Yeah. You never seen that movie with Meryl Streep? Why am I thinking of Emily? I'm thinking of Emily's list y'all never mind forget it that's the difference i don't think that has to do with the holocaust emily's list is that like uh isn't that like one of those groups that like hires women to run for office i think so i think i think emily's same shit same shit it's like where you go to find a contractor in your neighborhood. Yeah, yeah. Or is that Angie's list?
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah, that's Angie's list. There's too many lists. Schindler's list? Yeah. Can't keep up. That's the Holocaust way. Schindler's list. Way too many lists.
Starting point is 00:37:39 There was a number of years before I was aware of what Sophie's Choice was, where somebody would use it as a turn of phrase, and I'd be like, oh, yeah, sounds like Sophie's Choice to me. Probably another one of those I was using wrong for a long time. It's based on a book by a guy named William Styron who wrote a book. So his name not even Sophie? His name wasn't even Sophie.
Starting point is 00:38:10 His name was not even Sophie. How dare he write a book? How am I supposed to believe anything that he says? I know. He also wrote- To bring this full circle, when y'all were talking about William Gibson earlier, I almost chimed in and was like, oh, William Styron.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Mm. I thought he was the one that wrote Necromancer. Yeah, he did. William Styron. Neuromancer written by William Styron would be crazy. William Styron wrote a book called Confessions of Nat Turner, which was very controversial because he wrote it from first he wrote it from the first person point of view of nat turner
Starting point is 00:38:50 and you could probably guess williams williams tarn was not black ah interesting choice but i mean i have to say was it good i read the book and i thought it was great but i was like 20 it's like i was very convinced was it was it was it was it robert dowdy jr in tropic thunder levels of like you know what i'm saying like was it was it like if i read it and i didn't know that he was a black guy would you think that it would be would you think i'd be convinced that's a great question it might be an interesting litmus test i shouldn't have told you about it and i should have just given you the book just feel like scratched off the author's name and like the bio page and everything
Starting point is 00:39:32 give a tear and read say hey what do you think well i think hey your brother wrote this part yeah part of what was controversial was he has he's got like kind of like a gay sex scene where nat turner has like a like a gay um you know like early age like teenage like a homoerotic love thing and and people are like nat turner by all appearances apparently wasn't gay but are you i mean maybe it's fanfic though bro you gotta you gotta take some liberties dog like you already you already put yourself in shoes of black men like you might as well just you know yeah you're already going down that road you're already on that slippery slope i know i gotta yeah i gotta i gotta give it to him because, like, it's pretty audacious. It's like, I'm going to write a book about one of the most well-known, like,
Starting point is 00:40:30 slave rebellion leaders in American history from the point of view. He's a gay man. You know how people get, like, all tight? They be like, oh, well, if you're not like a black woman, you can't write from the perspective of a black woman. He was like, nah, fuck that. Oh, yeah. Not only am I a slave trying to get free, I'm a gay slave.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. Yo, didn't you make that shit a movie, dog? Make that shit a movie you're not gonna be enjoying it bro watch the fuck out of that shit cause you imagine
Starting point is 00:41:15 here's what he did he wrote he wrote he wrote this this book right and he was like like he was convinced he got one off right and then he's like nah i gotta i gotta add something it's missing something something's missing here
Starting point is 00:41:34 need some juice on so whatever the fuck they call that shit yeah i'm gonna be the guy inspired by him. I'm just going to write historical fiction from the perspective of historical figures that by all appearances were straight. But as if they were gay. But that's just going to be my genre. What's the first historical figure you would like to write about? I started to say Shakespeare, but I think the verdict's coming in on him. I think that would be a little too on the nose.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Didn't Shakespeare give his bed away to his friend, his best friend or something? In his will? What about Genghis Khan? Dude, no one writes or something. In his will. What about Genghis Khan? Dude, no one writes those lines. I mean, come on. Don't you read that? Yeah, come on. Straight man didn't write that.
Starting point is 00:42:37 If Genghis Khan were gay, we probably wouldn't be here. It's the damnedest thing. That's why it would make compelling historical fiction, in my opinion. Exactly, exactly. Title it like Genghis Khan. Book one. That's why it would make compelling historical fiction, in my opinion. Exactly. Title like Gagascott. Book one. Gang.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Gang. Gagascott. That's my title. Yeah, and every title has to be a play on. Ernest Heavyweight. Ernest Heavyweight. There we go. Yeah, and every title has to be a play on. Ernest Hemingway. Ernest Hemingway. Yeah, Ernest Hemingway, guys. Gaydolf Hitler.
Starting point is 00:43:15 You can do that. Now, how would history be different? The first person. Wait. Nah. Maybe I'm thinking of something that definitely is not true but i thought i could i thought i heard that uh uh there were uh rumors or uh speculation that hitler was a hitler's gay he definitely liked teenage girls i know that yeah damn yeah it seemed to only date like 14 yearyear-olds and shit. Well, James Baldwin stuck up for William Styron.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I think everybody else was like, dude, what the fuck are you doing? Like, Amiri Baraka and shit. They were like, what the fuck are you doing? But James Baldwin rode for him until the very end. Well, James Baldwin's a gay black dude, so that's all you fucking need, yo. That's all you need. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 What can you say to that? What can you say to James Baldwin? The goat signs off on it. James Baldwin was like, don't worry about them crackers. It's fine, yo. It's good. It's good. You're good.
Starting point is 00:44:15 You're good. Yo, you're good. You're good. Yo, I want to read that book now, bro. Every time you kept saying it two man i kept thinking about the movie birth of a nation not the not the not the uh not the wwd w was it wd griffith or whatever not that not the race i'm talking about yeah not the racist one i'm talking about the not racist one that they made a couple years ago yeah yeah but i kept thinking about what if he was gay in that movie though
Starting point is 00:44:45 you know how much better that movie yeah what had there what was the controversy with that movie but wasn't there something what yeah i think it's like the the actor they had cast for like the main lead role i think he was like canceled or something like i think he'd done something oh he does something accused sexual assault college or something like i think he'd done something oh he does something accused sexual assault college or something like that oh shit something yeah i can't remember but i'm reading a book that's historical fiction from the point of view of john brown's third oldest son it's called his third oh yeah it's called clouds so specific it's uh it's interesting because like i mean he did a lot of research for the writer russell banks he just died like two weeks ago and i've had the book on my shelf
Starting point is 00:45:32 for a long time and i was like damn all right i'll read it um but it's interesting because like there's like one section where he like heavily implies that like nathaniel hawthorne knocked up his um sister-in-law's daughter it's like kind of like okay implies that it's like dude like you can just okay maybe that was a rumor or something at the time i don't know but it is funny how like you didn't just pull that out of nowhere though you know it would be funny yeah that's, that's oddly specific. Like, he was sitting on that shit for a long time. It would be funny.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I mean, it is a funny concept, though, that you can just make shit up. If you're surrounding historical fiction, it's like, no one's going to do shit. Like, what's going to happen? They all dead. Plus, like, the way that we perceive time where all of these past events are piled on top of one another. Nobody could even like what are you gonna do you're gonna do the genealogy you're gonna go to fucking like like 23andme.com or some shit like that and find out nobody's gonna do that shit bro no well and
Starting point is 00:46:34 and the other thing is it's just like none of us sort of after you're dead you don't control the narrative anymore you know anybody can say any goddamn thing they want to about you. What would be funny is if you were airing historical dirty laundry, but under the guise of historical fiction, but actually you knew it to be true. Yeah. So you were like, what's the word I'm looking for, man? Damn.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Never mind, I forget it. I forgot the term for it. You know, Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln had a correspondence that you know about, but there's the dirty letters, too. They were writing each other sex letters.
Starting point is 00:47:19 That might have been true for Walt Whitman and Abe Lincoln. Walt Whitman was obsessed with Abe Lincoln. He loved him. He was in love with him, yeah. Like actually in love with him? Yeah, he was. Were they alive at the same time?
Starting point is 00:47:35 They were. They were? Okay. I have a friend that went to Walt Whitman High School in Lake Maryland and Westboro Baptist Church protested their high school like in the 2000s because walt whitman was gay i'm so i was just about to say to you like i'm surprised that there hasn't been a resurgence of anger at walt whitman high school well there you go like what what happened let me not give many what happened to the westboro people did like
Starting point is 00:48:02 do what did that flash in the pan like just like red hot chili peppers they were produced by rick rubin westboro baptist church i don't know what's up what's up with the the westboro uh westboro baptist church so that one dude died and then i think it kind of fell apart after that i feel like his his boys didn't really have the wherewithal to keep it going but you did see those motherfuckers those motherfuckers would come to our campus all the time i was i think they might be i was accosted by about a five foot four nigerian preacher that was from Westboro Baptist. He was talking about gay sex. I was walking by.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I'll never forget it. I was walking by. I had two boxes of candy. I was selling candy for, I forget what it was, for some charity my fraternity was raising money for, something like that. And then he started just yelling about gay sex, and I can just remember thinking, I don't have it. raising money for or something like that and then he started like just yelling about gay sex and i
Starting point is 00:49:05 could just remember thinking i don't have it i just said two goddamn boxes of twizzlers now listen i know what this looks like your fruity ass what do y'all want to know why scientific breakthroughs are declining since 1945 it's not a long article i'll just give you the high points um miracle vaccines video phones in our pockets reusable rockets what is that is that a reference to elon musk wait reusable rockets rockets yeah that sounds like an awful musk a carnival musk is doing i miss this yeah yeah the the falcon 9 rocket that you could uh unlike you know other rockets or whatever you could reuse that's why uh we use it to go to the space station and shit like that well i'm just to say, if I developed a vehicle that's famous for, what do you call it when somebody just randomly catches on fire? Spontaneously combust?
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah, spontaneously, self a product that famously catches on fire a disproportionate amount of times to other competitors, I'd probably just make sure that I could come up with a single-use rocket first. Yeah, better than you. Before I conquered other worlds, you know what I mean? Our technological bounty and its related blur of scientific progress seem undeniable and unsurpassed. Yet analysts now report that the overall pace of real breakthroughs has fallen dramatically over the past
Starting point is 00:50:51 three quarters of a century. This month in the journal Nature, the report's researchers told how their study of millions of scientific papers and patents shows that investigators and inventors have made relatively few breakthroughs and innovations compared with the world's growing mountain y'all motherfucking
Starting point is 00:51:09 sleeping wake the fuck up start inventing like if you like the guy that the guy that like thinks he's invented an eternal motion machine in his garage is pissed the fuck off reading something like that he's like the motherfuckers who just discovered like nuclear fusion i'm like yo what the fuck dog you're about to change the world y'all let this out the damn the the analysts found a steady drop from 1945 through 2010 in disruptive fines as a share of the wait hold up venture real quick can i say real quick to my bed like the fact that they chose the year that we dropped the atom bomb and they said well we did the big one and then after that we made no technological progress
Starting point is 00:51:56 10 000 people in like 40 seconds and that was And that was it. That was the zenith, yo. Here I got a question, though. I got a question about that time frame specifically. It feels like to me that that was the golden age of guys that tinkered and tried to invent things. Yeah. Like this was like the proliferation of like the made-for-TV products and stuff like that. This is when Velcro came out. Yeah, yeah. Like, this was like the proliferation of, like, the made-for-TV products and stuff like that. This is when Velcro came out. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Some dude invented Velcro in his basement like this, you know what I mean? Did we cure cancer? No, but we got the post-it note in this area. And we made Teflon. Most importantly, we made Teflon. We made Teflon and many other compounds that are currently taking up residence in our tissues and bloodstream right now. But... Microplastics?
Starting point is 00:52:48 That's true. That's true. My bad, Terrence. Go ahead. Yet a steady drop in disruptive finds, I don't even know what a disruptive find is, as a share of the booming venture, suggesting that scientists today are more likely to push ahead incrementally than to make intellectual leaps. God damn, the Democrats have got to them too. Joe Biden's got the science.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It's incrementalism. It seeps into science. We should be in a golden age of new discoveries and innovations, said Michael Park, an author of the paper. The new finding of Mr. Park and his colleagues suggests that investments in science are caught in a spiral
Starting point is 00:53:31 of diminishing returns and that quantity in some respects is outpacing quality. While unaddressed in the study, it also raises questions about the extent to which science... Park's talking a little reckless for a man that ain't doing shit himself. Yeah, you ain't doing shit himself yeah you ain't doing nothing bro go invent some shit go invent some velcro sustain the kind of boldness that
Starting point is 00:53:51 unlocked the atom and the universe and what can be done to address the shift away from pioneering all right can i can i just say again like yo because actually i've been thinking a lot about this yo and like like uh as i'm trying to like you know write stories about different worlds and possible futures and shit and like a lot of the times when we make big technological breakthroughs like that it's because we're trying to kill people you know what i mean like the only reason we fucking have the internet you know what i'm saying and like cell phones and satellites is because motherfuckers von braun like vernon von braun mainly in the united states wanted to know a way well after that wanted to know a way how you could fucking
Starting point is 00:54:31 send rockets into space and fall on a different continent hundreds of thousands you know what i'm saying like what are you talking about dog unlocking the atom what did we do with that we don't have nuclear we like cities don't want a nuclear power you know i mean we still run electricity it was just because we wanted to kill people burning my bad this shit pisses me off bro this shit is fucking stupid what are you talking about i got a question about verner von braun before we go any further see is he the namesake of the line of braun line of beard trimmers and so forth and soap and shit like that yeah is that him yeah i love my bra and beard trim well dude i love that throw it out because i'm an ally
Starting point is 00:55:15 um go ahead anyway sorry well i mean i feel like okay so you're right like in that era i feel like a lot of innovations were made primarily for two reasons actually they're probably one they're probably overlapping it's like to kill a to kill people or or b to do eugenics and like which is just killing people in the end yeah exactly but it is interestingly how they define science listen to this researchers have long sought objective ways to assess the state of science which is seen as vital to economic growth national pride and military strength it's like yo this is some nazi shit this is literally the nazis it's like maybe maybe that's our problem maybe that after a certain point there's diminishing returns maybe you can only kill people in so many innovative ways and try to cull the herd through social science in so many innovative ways you know
Starting point is 00:56:26 yeah yeah also maybe like maybe it's a good thing that there isn't as much technological progress as like the way they define it because usually that means like using whole entire communities people as like fucking like laboratory experiments as petri dishes. Imagine you're the guy that invented COVID-19. You're like, what the fuck? Damn. All I was trying to do was some rudimentary gain of function research and
Starting point is 00:56:56 I slipped on a banana pill and killed a million people in the United States alone. Don't even get credit for it as a scientific breakthrough. Yeah, and you get buried in the, you know, the history books need to write that. We need to figure out who invented that and give them their due. I got a question. You mentioned chronic Lyme earlier, and I stuck a pin in this back of my head.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Isn't there some evidence that Lyme disease was a bioweapon? Oh. What? I think so. I think someone sent me an article to that, like in that. Yeah, I think so. And also, isn't it true that we did have a Lyme disease vaccine and then it just kind of inexplicably went away?
Starting point is 00:57:45 Yeah, I say that it's not a thing. It probably, I mean, with a lot of autoimmune stuff, it's like a real thing is going on, but it's just like, what name do you give it? Yeah, I don't doubt that people that have chronic Lyme disease have lingering things. I just don't think they have an active infection. Well, yeah, that's the real issue it's like does it warrant giving putting someone on strong antibiotics for 10 years and increasing the likelihood
Starting point is 00:58:17 that antibiotic resistant bacteria will become widespread like don't even get me don't even get me started on I'm gonna sound like a conspiracy theorist but like diseases that attack the immune system like i'm a dumbass but i'm just like yo them shits exist in nature so he's telling me there's something that's intelligent enough as a virus that can attack but no that's how i sound conspiracist but it's like i don't know aids aids aids was% created in a lab. Like, not a doubt in my mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I mean, it's like, you know, all the kooks of the world or the people that we deem kooks in the world or whatever, it's like, they'll probably all be absolved in the end. It's like, if all of our technological innovations are centered around killing people, then it's not a great leap to think that the plandemic people might have some cogent points.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Let's see. Blah, blah, blah. Defying the surge, experts have debated the value of incremental strides versus eureka moments that change everything known about a field. The new study could deepen the debate. One surprise is
Starting point is 00:59:32 that discoveries held popularly as groundbreaking are seen by the authors of the new study as often representing little more than routine science and true leaps as sometimes missing altogether from the conversation. For instance, the top breakthrough in the study's list of examples is a gene-splicing advance that's poorly known to popular science.
Starting point is 00:59:52 It let foreign DNA be inserted into human and animal cells rather than just bacteria ones. The New York Times referred to it in a 1983 note of four paragraphs. Even so, the feat produced a run of awards for its authors and their institution, Columbia University, as well as almost $1 billion in licensing fees as it lifted biotech operations around the world. In contrast, the analysts would see two of this century's most celebrated findings as representing triumphs of ordinary science rather than edgy leaps.
Starting point is 01:00:21 The mRNA vaccines that successfully battled the coronavirus were rooted in decades of unglamorous toil they noted so to the 2015 observation of gravitational waves was no unforeseen breakthrough but rather the confirmation of a century-old theory that required decades of hard work testing and sensor development um it also just sounds like they should stop complaining and bitching because maybe science just isn't good at making itself sexy anymore like when I was a kid in the 90s man and he had
Starting point is 01:00:53 like you used to have the scholastic book catalog they had all these fucking scientists were getting all the pussy when I was a kid well they invented Viagra you know it was a big it was a momentous era it was momentous but like nah dude like now it's just like like i don't know maybe they're just not they have a messaging problem you know could be like they just they just don't know how to make
Starting point is 01:01:19 shit sound and also too like maybe this is bearing the lead maybe this should have been mentioned before like but i don't know dude a dog it seems like when you have a society that's more geared towards like either making shit to kill people or like meaningless conveniences that a lot of research and development doesn't go into like groundbreaking you know what i'm saying technology you know what i'm saying well like yeah i think of like technical innovations and like buildings materials and plastics specifically like building carbon chains that are so strong that like nothing can get through them you know which is why they like in breaking bad it's like you know you dissolve a body in like a one of those like plastic bins
Starting point is 01:02:03 it's like plastic is very strong like the carbon chains and that shit are like so resilient uh but like that's what a lot of it goes to like applied science it's like either consumer products or yeah military hardware so it's like i mean if those are your guys if those are your rubrics if that's if that's your end goal like i don't know like i said earlier like the like i said earlier like how many different ways can you like sell a cheap product how many different ways can you kill a person like it's like at a certain point you kind of like have diminishing returns if that's your you know definition of an innovative i mean i mean it's like these
Starting point is 01:02:46 motherfuckers like like they're like oh we're gonna like build a robot that has like joints where it can move independently but it's gonna be like a robot dog and instead of like i don't know like instead of like i don't know not making it a toy but making it a useful gadget like are like you know i'm saying like the department of defense and police departments want to buy up a bunch of these boston dynamics instead of like actually being like okay not even a consumer product but how come just actively help people because one of the one of those purposes for them too is like a disaster relief you know yeah like finding people and shit like that but that's not something that's advertised god damn you imagine being neck deep in some flood water and see one of those motherfuckers just like
Starting point is 01:03:28 across the creek after you i'd take my chances i probably would too not a lot yeah that's an interesting thing like cops aren't gonna let themselves be mechanized out of existence like fuck no like they still have to be able to like they still have to be able to idle their cars and like creep on teenage girls and not yeah show up five hours late to like uh you know uh a domestic violence situation or something like that. It's like the whole point is for them to have this completely arbitrary role in society. If you start making robot dogs do those jobs.
Starting point is 01:04:15 They're going to be like Luddites? Yeah. They're going to be like Luddites breaking up the robot dogs? They're going to be shooting the robot dogs? They're going to be shooting the robot dogs. There's going to be a future, and it's going to be bad, but we can take some solace in that there's gonna be a future and it's gonna be bad but we could take some solace in that there's gonna be like a disproportionate amount of human police mauled by those robot dogs because that's all they got to do now they've already like incarcerated or killed everybody
Starting point is 01:04:40 else so now it's just them like trying to go and rain the robot dogs in uh-huh blow it blowing themselves up and shit yeah oh man like i don't know man that that that article is just funny because it's just like i've been i've been thinking about it man i kind of have been like i was on that tip for a little bit where i was like man like it seems like all the dope technological progress that i remember reading about and then growing up like in the 90s uh semstel research and cloning and the space shuttle but then i don't know man i got older i'm kind of like well i mean yeah the future really didn't happen but i don't know man it's happening all the time you know it's in this the last paragraph here it says we have extremely
Starting point is 01:05:22 ordered science it's quoting this this sociologist from University of Chicago who was a co-author of the paper. He says, we have an extremely ordered science. We bet with confidence on where we invest our money, but we're not betting on fundamentally new things that have the potential to be disruptive. This paper suggests we need a little less order and a bit more chaos.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And it's like, I can very easily see this kind of article and paper being as the justification for guys like elon musk which is a kind of a funny absolutely kind of a funny thing because it's like guys like elon musk would say like science is stagnant we don't let our brilliant minds do anything anymore and it's like the guy's a fucking dumb ass a massive fucking idiot so it's like it is maybe it's good we don't need that guy tinkering no and i mean like i mean like too like we would kind of bring it full circle there's a there's a line in a neuromancer where gibson says says that oftentimes like technology needs like a training ground, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:28 it needs somewhere to be cut loose so that it's implementers can see what it's really capable of. You know, it needs like a no man's land, right. Or wild, wild West. And I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:39 like when I think about places like, like Palestine and I read this article about they have these auto guns that can track movement and fire like autonomously and like a lot of like i mean even other other um sort of uh uh weapons and and equipment that police use that have been brought back like bringing back like this war home into communities you know what i mean it's just kind of like yeah man like you let chaos you let like chaos reign free and then all of a sudden you're gonna just have more victims of this technology you know yeah i mean like i mean that's even with fucking self-driving cars dog like that's an
Starting point is 01:07:21 insane concept to me that anybody should be in a car a vehicle like a like a multi like hundred pound vehicle and have the audacity to like take not take their hands off of it and it's like that shit's not even regulated yet dog like how are you gonna make the technology and let it go down the road and not regulate it you know yeah so i don't know well also the the batting analogy was absolutely insane because the only people that actually bet the way this guy's proposing we do in science are the degenerate gamblers. Right. Fuck it all day.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Like, really successful gamblers, there's like six of them, and they really only put their money on when they see some sort of aberration in the lines because they know ultimately that the house can't be beat in a vacuum. You know what I mean? He's just talking about talking about a bunch of like small-time gamblers and like giving them the power of the nuclear bomb you don't know what i'm saying like imagine like a bunch of those guys yeah just imagine a bunch of those guys with the power of like the atom you know what i'm saying and just like rolling dice and just be like all right let's see now the power to literally destroy the world in the hands of people that wear like sweat stain ball caps.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I say Santa Anita Derby 1993. And like just chain smoke cigarettes at the slots all day. That's a really good visual, man. Good visual. Just absolutely reckless. You're thinking of the guy like wearing one of the visors you know one of the visors if you're like at the
Starting point is 01:08:48 like I don't know man like playing games or shoot craps or some shit like that but he's like has his hand on the nuclear button you know his finger on the nuclear button god damn yo I can't believe people get paid to write shit like that dog I can't believe people get paid to write like yo let, dog. I can't believe people get paid to write, like, yo, let's start World War III in the style of the Nazis, yo.
Starting point is 01:09:10 To spur innovation. Or the Italian futurists. Right. Yeah, to spur innovation. Well, I have to say, I have to say if the big disaster movies of the early or the late 90s and early 2000s, as famously pointed out in the Adam Curtis documentary. I feel like we're seeing more and more of that, and that's always sort of a harbinger for something bad to come down the road.
Starting point is 01:09:33 When I saw that Shyamalan movie, I'm like, yeah, another 9-11-esque event is on the way. I just can't get it. Or it could be like Alan Moore said, man alan moore did an interview with the guardian he's like yo all of these superhero movies like it's disturbing that a million people are lining up to go see batman you know or superman because of this like mass infant infantilization right is like a harbinger of fascism. And I know it seems like all cool now that people are watching all these kids movies and shit. And dude, I like superhero movies too.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I mean, I don't like them. I like them begrudgingly because I like comic books. But like, that shit is pretty bad, man. That shit's not a good sign. It's not a healthy society. It's not healthy at all, bro. Need to bring back science. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh, shit. Oh, shit, dog. Well, boys. God damn. Should we call it there? Yeah, man. Science, science for the win. I mean, you were talking about earlier Looking for a belief system
Starting point is 01:10:45 Can't do better than that Can't do better than science We're gonna send you that sign In this house we believe Hold up I'm thinking Scientology There we go It got the word science in it Close enough
Starting point is 01:11:00 Christian science you could be a Christian scientist I never understood that Because they actually kind of believe in the opposite like they believe in like homeopathic charisma and like uh not going to the doctor so they don't i thought christian science meant they believed in intelligent design oh maybe that's not what i mean could be i could be wrong i don't that's the thing i don't know i'm just putting the two words together i'm like okay these sound contradictory, but okay. I think Christian Science is like, I think they don't necessarily believe in going to doctors.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah. I think they've got a couple of different views that are a little different, but yeah, I'm not real sure. I talked to a guy from the Christian Science Monitor one time, and he was talking to me about it, and I can't really remember what it was. Well.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Tune in next week for a real-life Christian Scientist. Yeah. The hunt continues, man. Yeah. The hunt for Aaron of Faith continues. Well, you know, I'm going to keep the nation in my back pocket. If I have to give up the swine to join my brothers and sisters, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Man, you look sharp as hell doing it, but that's a big ask. I know, man. That's a big ask, man. I don't know. Let's see. All right, boys. To be continued. Is that it?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah That's it Alright Sounds good Well we'll see you all next time Peace Peace

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