Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 321: Double Reverse Cartographic Own

Episode Date: December 14, 2023

This week we discuss maps and their various uses; all the latest lies from Israel and the Biden administration; and why green feudalism isn't a thing. Finally we end on some synth your piece just like... in the old days. Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One of my favorite things about living in the 21st century is the... That is a broad view. Uh-huh. This is new. One of my favorite things about living in this period of, you know, a hundred years that we're in the throes of now. It's new. People didn't do this prior to the 21st century.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Not that I'm aware of. One of my favorite things about living in the 21st century is people trying to do gotchas on you using maps. People love maps now. Maps making a comeback, huh? They're making a comeback. All old things are new again. Well, so like, let's talk about the history of maps.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Finally. I was hoping you'd bring this up today. No, I mean like, you know, like, using maps in your political argument to win your political argument, that's gotta to be new right like people in 1930 weren't like arguing and then like you would you'd be arguing with someone and then like someone was like oh yeah you don't believe the sykes-picot treaty was detrimental
Starting point is 00:01:18 to the advancement of the uh western uh westphalian system or something and then they would well here you go motherfucker and they would slam a map down on the table here's here you go here you go son right to the tape like that they didn't do that because i guess they had i guess they hadn't really fully I guess they hadn't really fully understood the power of a map. Yeah, cartographic owns were still in their infancy in that era. It seems to me that the cartographic own, like who really developed it, as far as I can tell, I was reading that Quinn Slobodian book book globalists globalists yeah it's about like the early early um
Starting point is 00:02:10 you know like von mises and hayek like the early neoliberal thinkers right yeah and one of their cartographic owns that they would use was they tried to visualize the world in Europe. They tried to make a visual representation of the tariff boundaries between each country. Listen, fertile territory for an own.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Dude, seriously. If you're teeing one up, that's catnip. If you can get someone on a gotcha on a tariff, seriously. If you're teeing one up, that's catnip. Yeah, if you can get someone on a gotcha on a tariff, dog. Next level. Yeah, victory. Prepare the victory dance. To the victory goes the spoil.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah. They were trying to represent how divided Europe actually was because they had these massive tariff walls. And so they divided this three-dimensional... They devised this three-dimensional map of Europe that had walls between each nation and the higher the wall... Like one of those ones that's like...
Starting point is 00:03:18 You can actually feel the mountains and the ridges and everything. You can feel the mountains and the ridges, but there weren't mountains and ridges. It wasn't a topographic map. The mountains and ridges and everything. You feel the mountains and the ridges, but in this, there weren't mountains and ridges. It wasn't a topographic map. The mountains and ridges you felt were the walls between nations that represented the tariffs between them.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You know what's funny about this? Just as a quick aside. The last time I had a cartographic dispute was on the morning of 9-11. Me and Chad Kilgore were sitting. We were getting ready to go into the kentucky history mobile which was a sister to the kentucky book mobile uh is there any relation through is there any relation to the blood mobile were they i think so too i think that's the third
Starting point is 00:03:58 sibling of the of that line and uh we were kind of locked out of the tour because we were late so we knew about 9-11 before anybody did really we were out there but like out there in the lobby of the the bus like before you go through the little walkthrough tour of the bus yeah it was like a 3d map and we were just you know talking about the uh um various shawnee offenses against the Scots-Irish settlers at the time. Anyway, when we heard about 9-11, we were like, let us in. We're under siege. Let us in.
Starting point is 00:04:39 You were like outside the city walls. I was, man. On 9-11. That very morning, 9-11, yeah. Wow. So, anyway. Thinking to let the gate down. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Like the hordes of Scots-Irish are coming over the, did y'all have a moment where you thought maybe the Scots-Irish were behind 9-11? Well, strictly speaking, they weren't. They weren't not. I mean, the Bushes are Scots-Irish were behind 9-11? Well, strictly speaking, they weren't. They weren't not. I mean, the Bushes are Scots-Irish, right? They recovered like a mountain ducan, like a singed mountain ducan from the scene of the crime at the Pentagon.
Starting point is 00:05:13 They're like, oh, my God. There's only one group of people that could have perpetuated this horrible crime. And we know who they are. Yes. Yes, they're the fair skins from the mountains. Strictly speaking, though, if we want to talk about, you know, Catholic conspiracies and all this stuff, Scots-Irish have had some undue influence over American public life.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Have they? LBJ, Bill Clinton. clinton insidious bunch we are yeah that is true just like we've always been even going back to being stooges for the crown it's not a proud lineage any stretch the imagination but you know and it also increases your chance of being a diabetic but uh you, small price to pay for global domination. That's true. Anyway, sorry. Well, I noticed the cartographic own last night that made me chuckle.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Who can I ask? I dare not say his name on this again, but it seems like Stancil probably tried to bring something like that back. Nah, dude, Stancil doesn't fuck with maps. He's more of a pie chart on guy. He's more of a pie chart on guy, yeah. Yeah. Kind of the lowest form of on.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'm like a screenshot of an article on guy, which is not a good guy to be. You don't want to be that guy, but I'm that guy, unfortunately. Do you ever feel trapped by your... Everybody's got their own vessel to put their fellow man down you know yeah do you ever feel trapped by your twitter persona like i look at the things i post i'm like fuck i suck so bad man like why can't i be better i don't like it i wish i was anyone but me i hate me buddy let me tell you something feel that very cutely today um all right a cartographic own i
Starting point is 00:07:09 saw last night um so this guy alan mcleod posted a map that said on the left these are the countries that have just voted to condemn china over alleged human rights abuses against Muslims. On the right, these are the countries that recognize the state of Palestine. Well, let me, just before we wade into these waters, does the crux of this own have something to do with the Uyghurs? His own, yeah. But someone tried to own him with a map.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's the funny thing so we've got a double reverse cartographic oh it's a double yeah holy shit how do you tell when you call me i was so stunned i was speechless you don't see it very often but when you do it's always special it's like a like a lunar eclipse. That's right. Or solar eclipse. Which one's the more rare? Solar, I guess. Solar eclipse, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So this guy responded to him and said, I also have maps. And this is one of those pro-Israeli accounts that his banner image literally looks like a photo from Nazi Germany. His bio is tired returning IDF soldier. The account is at Aiden Haken one. Anyways, he said, I also have maps. And he slammed down a map of his own. On the top it says, voted Zionism is racism. And it's like all the global south.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And then on the bottom map it says, human right violation score. And it's all of the countries that voted that zionism is racism and i just love that because human right violation score like what what is the metric there like how it's it's like it's like echoes of um who was it the other day that was saying for every 30 minutes a kid spends on TikTok, they become 17% more anti-Semitic. That was Nikki Haley, yeah. Yeah, it's like, okay, how do you quantify that? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Dog, what is your human right violation score? I want to know mine as an individual. Like, what is my human right violation score, I wonder? Is it in the red, in the yellow, the orange? I guess the one upshot to live in the 21st century is you know it's only so many opportunities a individual with no power can commit human rights violations i guess if you're uh like an unabashed racist or well if you're like you know or marky mark you know and yeah what's blinded a vietnamese man i'd say he Or Marky Mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Blinded a Vietnamese man. I'd say he probably lost some points for that one. I have things I regret. I feel like teenagers commit a lot of human rights violations. When I was a kid, me and two of my friends, my friend's neighbor was this older woman. She was probably middle-aged. And she was an incorrigible asshole. she was always screaming at us to quiet down like we would be playing in the backyard
Starting point is 00:10:30 or like shooting each other with paintball guns and she would tattle on us and uh and so one day we were like man fuck this we're gonna you know what i've had enough i've had enough i i did the voltaire thing and i examined who stood on my neck who my oppressor was and i decided it's this lady and so and the conclusion i came to is this lady uh-huh and so we got a styrofoam cup and we all three of us peed in the styrofoam cup and put it on her porch in front of the screen door and then rung the doorbell and ran away and she opened the door and it knocked the cup over and pee just went all over her porch and dribbled a little piss on her porch huh yeah and i remember i nice to this day remember
Starting point is 00:11:17 watching her across the street like the sunken feeling in her face, just like, God damn it. And I feel awful about that to this day. Like, and she, even after all the abuse, she put you through. Even after all the abuse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I feel, I didn't, didn't make me feel good. I didn't feel like there was any revenge. And she, and then of course she tattled on us. She told, and we all got in trouble and we had to go and apologize to her.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Let me ask you a question. Did she have like a wooden porch that just kind of soaked into, or was it tile? It was concrete. I mean, this is New Mexico. You know, it was a concrete porch. What's she bitching about? She's gonna soak in.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Who cares? It's a to soak in. Who cares? It's a human rights violation, though, man. People have the right to not have to get peed on their porch. And so I committed a human... I'm saying my score is not zero. I'm not blameless. None of us are without spot and blemish, but what I am saying is in the grand scheme of things,
Starting point is 00:12:22 it doesn't really chart. Yeah, I guess you're right. What else you got for me? In terms of my own human rights violations? Yeah, let's keep going here. All the times I've hurt people. Well, we don't have to get into that. Let's go back to the maps.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I want to say something though that's not a true cartographic on in my opinion what the guy's doing that's actually a pie chart on masquerading as a cartographic on oh okay cause all he's doing is putting up some shapes of countries and saying oh look how they
Starting point is 00:13:03 they need to look in their own cupboard before they come. Judging my slaughter of 20,000 innocents. Right. And in that regard, it seems that, you know, it's not a true cartographic. Now, I tell you somebody that I would fear in a contest of wheels played out over a map is somebody like 2s. Oh, dude. Do not fuck with the 2s when it comes to charts, graphs, maps. Get you a man that can do all of the above.
Starting point is 00:13:38 That's Adam 2s. Yeah. Yeah, you do not want to fucking find yourself in a back alley. yeah you do not want to fucking find yourself in a back alley like you you you're in a back alley and you've like you're a common petty theft and you have cornered a poor defenseless uh woman as she's come out of the theater and you're flashing various pie graphs and charts in front of her face and you're saying look it's a vibe session look you're you're actually not as bad off as you think economically look you have more money than you've ever had and then you hear a step at the end of the alley and you're like oh and you hear
Starting point is 00:14:19 some papers ruffling or what you think are papers but in fact it's just one big paper one big sheet like you you don't even turn around and you see say my god i already know who it is you don't even turn around and a roll of paper hits your shoe and you know turn around and it you it's connected all the way to the end of the alley. You don't even turn around, and you just say under your breath, twos. He's just holding the end of a 30-foot long piece of paper, just full of fucking pie charts and graphs.
Starting point is 00:15:07 paper just full of fucking pie charts and graphs and he just says to you i didn't just notice some uh inconsistencies and some things you were saying here no no i didn't mean it i didn't i was just i was just trying to show her it's it's the vibe session just try i was just trying to tell her that yeah i'm paying seven dollars for a tub oatmeal right now but it's not that it's that doesn't bear out the economic reality and he starts cracking his knuckles and going to work on you and then you just know oh man oh man you know like in the cartoons like if you're if you die in the cartoons like there's X's over your eyes. Yeah. If you get twos,
Starting point is 00:15:49 there's pie charts over your eyes. It's just four hours later, you're just sitting there staring off into the distance, just charted over. Yeah, like, they look at him, he's got the thousand yard stare. Your eyes are just vacant and all you see is, if you look at him it's
Starting point is 00:16:06 just pie charts and graphs i said my god he's been twosed he's been oh my god quick get him the antidote and they said no it's been longer than 24 hours it's no good now uh-huh he's just going to be this way forever. Oh, man. Well, all right let's actually talk about some serious things so like just picking up where we left off on the patreon on sunday or monday i'm sorry um first of all i wanted to read you this hard-hitting story in the new york times it's you know it's it's crazy right like i've tried to like every day right i wake up and i read two newspapers uh and by that i mean i bootleg i bootleg them shits i'm not paying for that however i have a very sophisticated system for bootlegging them if you ask me how to do it i don't even remember how i got here in the first place like you've figured out something other than
Starting point is 00:17:50 just going over the paywall i think you've gone you go through it okay sure i operate go under or you tunnel under yes like i do like um a scotty beam me up thing and I'm transported to the other side. Teleport over. Yeah, teleport over the paywall. I see. I like walk up to the paywall and stick two fingers to the side of my head and stick two fingers on the paywall and I can read what's on the other side. Okay, you're a seer.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I'm a seer. You're what's referred to as a soothsayer what was prophesied in the scriptures as a seer okay and so like as a result you get kind of
Starting point is 00:18:37 insight into the editorial choices and the editorial voice of these two newspapers and so like i have to say generally speaking it seems like the washington post employs more morons on their opinion page because i don't know if you can do this is like fucking hugh hewitt and that josh rogan guy is that his name i mean like there's some fucking grade A morons on there.
Starting point is 00:19:07 But like the thing is, is they're not morons in an interesting and compelling way like the New York Times. Or me, for example. Or you. Yes. Have you been published in the Washington Post opinion page? Not recently. Not recently.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Okay. That's what I thought. But like you can also see like the differences in their the things that they choose to uh cover so for example today the front page of the washington post has at the top of it the very first story at the top of it um is about the photos and images of the Gazans who were stripped and humiliated and marched through the streets, which you would expect a respectable paper to cover a story like that. Seems newsworthy.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Seems newsworthy. The New York Times, however, if you go to Their page the very front The very top story Is Is Jerome Powell's Fed pulling off a soft landing It's too soon to declare victory but the Economic outlook seems sunnier than it Did a year ago and many economists
Starting point is 00:20:18 Are predicting a surprising win Oh no And then The paper of records been stanceled too yeah you can't even actually like you can't even you have to go down to literally farther than half the page to get to israel gaza news because after that it's like um the spending bill for the House. It's Putin making a statement about Ukraine. Which, okay, the only reason I point this out, okay, is because this week there was a story that broke
Starting point is 00:20:54 that I've not seen a single mainstream newspaper cover. I guess the Washington Post kind of hinted at it with its top story, I guess the Washington Post kind of hinted at it with its top story, but there was a story by Al Jazeera about the Shadia Abu Ghazala School in Gaza where it looked as if women and children, students, were killed execution style by IDF soldiers. Now, like, I saw the video from this. It seemed pretty legit. I've not seen a single news report of it
Starting point is 00:21:31 in the United States or any mention of it. And it's, I don't know, I think it's just kind of telling what you will see on the front page of the New York Times. This story, Pro-China YouTube Network used AI to malign US, report finds. Do you want to take a guess as to what the maligning, the basis of the maligning would be? By the way, these are just YouTube users. They're not even like the Chinese government.
Starting point is 00:22:03 They're just YouTube users. The basis of the maligning? What. The basis of the Malani? What's the basis of the Malani? I couldn't even hazard a guess. Let me just read you from the first paragraph. In a faintly stilted tone and with slightly awkward grammar, the American-accented voice on YouTube last month ridiculed Washington's handling of the war between israel and hamas claiming that the united states was unable to play its role as a mediator and now finds itself in a position of
Starting point is 00:22:32 significant isolation it goes on to say that the campaign's goal was clear to influence global opinion in favor of china and against the united states it's like okay it's like okay like how do they every affront to the united states is not a vote for china or russia that's so weird like that seems like such a reach um well i think it's like even more fundamentally it's like if you facilitate the genocide of 20,000 people and then not only that, but like go out there every week with like vacant black eyes and wearing dog tags of IDF soldiers like John Kirby did. Psychotic behavior. like John Kirby did. Psychotic behavior.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You forfeited your right to get mad over anyone saying you can't mediate this conflict because you've chosen your fucking side. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I don't know. It's really an astonishing thing. Oh, everybody's a fake friend because they won't let me kill who I want to with impunity. Yeah, like the UN Security Council taking that vote, right?
Starting point is 00:23:52 And the entire world voting unanimously to call for a ceasefire. And then, like, obviously the US and Israel vetoing it. Just, like, that's... It's the kids that must be wrong right man it is it is truly wild like you know just to sort of like just to sort of like reiterate like that story right about the school like the massacre at that school um which i take to be true uh because of what i you know the videos and the photos and stuff that i saw from it but also just like you can easily see an army an army that like strips and detains people and then marches them through the streets that just
Starting point is 00:24:40 like bombs indiscriminately blah blah blah blah i don't have to like add any more qualifiers to this. You can easily see them doing something like that. An army that is obsessed with Palestinian birth rates, you know what I'm saying? Like you can easily see them doing this. And so I guess where I'm going with this is like something that I've found fascinating is the almost kind of like asymmetry or no, no, no, not asymmetry.
Starting point is 00:25:05 They're almost like symmetry of this whole thing that like all the things that they said happened on october 7th which again i have no proof of any of that really except for the videos that have come out of like hamas fighters wearing gopros and stuff like that um it seems like i mean i don't know dude i saw a story what was that story i saw like just yesterday about how like israeli media was forced to take down an account from someone who was at the rave um because they said that they visibly witnessed idf you know killing people there yeah I guess anyways all the accusations and all the racist propaganda you saw about October 7th
Starting point is 00:25:51 obviously the thing you hear is like every accusation is a confession but it is also true it feels like that every accusation is like a promise of what they will eventually carry out right so so they talk about like beheaded babies. So they talk about, like, beheaded babies,
Starting point is 00:26:07 but then they go into a school and execute children. I mean, this is a very heavy subject. I'm sorry to, like, we, you know, kind of did whip last year. We were talking and laughing a second ago and then we go to talk about this. However, like, I guess the point I'm trying to make is just that, like, it's really wild to see that kind of, like, symmetry. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Right. Yeah. And what's also crazy to me in that Washington Post story we were just talking about, they were talking about those images of the godsons who were stripped and humiliated. Like, something that's kind of been lost in all this is like the idf are the ones publishing those photos they're the ones releasing those photos all right yeah it's it's literally meant as propaganda to like feed the bloodlust in israel um which is a very i don't know it's also a very astonishing thing because like even in America, they kept that stuff pretty under wraps.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Abu Ghraib was a huge scandal in America. You know what I'm saying? It was treated like... Yeah, those photos are, well, you know, maybe not so much anymore because we've been kind of desensitized to a lot of it through this and other things,
Starting point is 00:27:22 but like, yeah, it was one of the one things that had obama on his back heel saying yeah we tortured some folks right right you know that famous line right and it's still shocking to the you know uh to see just like sort of the depths of the depravity. And also Ron DeSantis was there, not to surprise. To see probably the most depressing condition of our time is to see like true evildoers ascending to high heights. Right. Yeah, it's just a, you know, I'm not trying to, like, let Americans off the hook, obviously,
Starting point is 00:28:10 because, like, Americans were also bloodthirsty and, like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. After 9-11. Yeah, it's like they throw these pep rallies, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think about that, too, like, the way that, like, a lot of us sort of came into our politics during the Iraq wartime. Like, what would that have been like if we would have lived in this time where we do now?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Whereas there's this free flow of information so much so that you just kind of get bogged down in what's real and what's not real and what's, you know, whatever. you know, whatever. What would the Iraq war have looked like in the age of, you know, Twitter and TikTok and Instagram and so forth? Well, it's interesting. I guess we did get Twitter at the tail end of it, right? Yeah, yeah, it's true. But, like, you know, the thing is,
Starting point is 00:29:00 is, you're right, so much of how we received news and images of that war was through pre-selected like credential channels uh cnn ms mbc fox news etc yeah um whereas you know like with this you know and that's the kind of thing that's i feel like almost maybe jarring for americans like that israel is not only releasing these photos which are war crimes by the way it is literally against the geneva conventions to like humiliate a pop population like that uh parade them around for media it's it's wild and i think it's kind of like hard for a lot of americans to fathom that that is um that those images aren't attached to any shameful feelings right like that like i guess what i'm
Starting point is 00:30:07 saying is that when i first saw those images they were almost presented like oh my god this is what israel is doing like you know what i'm saying like like look at their latest crime but i didn't realize that israel itself was boasting of this crime that's right and that's and that that was the thing like there was a a video of the Sky News guy questioning that State Department or the Defense Department spokesman, Mark Miller or whatever his name is, about those images. And, you know, he was like, well, they're deeply disturbing, but, like, we've got no evidence that Israel did it. I mean, it's like literally there's IDF soldiers. israel did it i mean it's like literally there's idf soldiers and well you think all these guys just stripped down and went and had a powwow in the middle of their in the middle of the fucking destroyed neighborhoods dude the most insane part of that was that um israeli ambassador
Starting point is 00:30:56 i can't remember his fucking name now he was the one that jake tapper was grilling we i included it and as one of the audio clips on the pre-episode last week but he was like oh they got hot it gets hot in the middle east just like laughing in our fucking faces you know what i'm saying just like just taunting and laughing in our fucking faces uh but like i don't know man it's just it's just it is a crazy thing and then like you know there's the photo of john kirby wearing the idf dog tags and you know we had mentioned it on the patreon but like i feel like at every step like we were being told like israelis are your fellow countrymen like no they are your fellow citizens like they're your fellow countrymen yeah that's fucking like
Starting point is 00:31:47 when they didn't even do that with ukraine they did it symbolically they were like oh here's the flag and i'm helping and we're gonna do the stuff but they didn't do that like at a no it's like no you should let now they're almost telling us to bolster the war effort we have to like uh you know put up idf soldiers let them eat our food and fuck our wives and everything else and like they're almost telling us to bolster the war effort we have to like uh you know put up idf soldiers let them eat our food and fuck our wives and everything else and like they're like a class above us and if you don't like that then you know tough titty you're right is this is this a violation of the third amendment like it's got to be like a it should be like a digital violation of the third amendment like why am i being asked to quarter and feed and house IDF soldiers on my TL? Yeah, digitally.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Digitally. Like, this has got to be... Because, obviously, you know, we're all the time looking for ways to, like, find violations of the Third Amendment. This has got to be one of them oh my god so it's so bad dude it's like it's almost like um yeah i just yeah it's it's hard it's no it's not hard to make sense of but it's like it's like they want to like engender like they're like purposely trying to engender they're either trying
Starting point is 00:33:05 to break our brain or engender like hate that they can later use to bolster their like justify their existence or whatever right you know and it's like i think part of it is like you know not falling prey to that you know what i mean and sort of you know keeping the line and and holding the faith and all this stuff about the palestinian cause but it's one of the hardest things is is feeling powerless to do anything in the face of just real evil yeah real evil you know i think and uh that's the point of that kind of stuff i feel like like the dog tags and stuff it's like sheer brute force it's like we're not bending shut the fuck up like get in line like this is honestly i i think that at a kind of more theoretical level
Starting point is 00:33:58 and i said this on twitter as almost as a kind of bit but like i think if you look at it like if you interrogate the history of like racial ideology in this country is always it was always employed to resolve contradictions in american political economy one of which is the central con one of the central contradictions of capitalism which is that by bringing workers together under the same roof, you engender within them a sense of solidarity, which means that you potentially bring them together to take over the means of production. Like, that's one of the central contradictions of capitalism, right?
Starting point is 00:34:37 And so seeing that capitalists exploited racial ideologies and racial tensions to to separate workers and like this was kind of the undergirding philosophy of like the fordist system in the mid-20th century right yeah uh so much so that like as we've said before there was even a civil rights movement in the 30s and 40s but it was deferred so that we could erect this family Fortis, you know, this Fortis family system of the little nuclear families predicated on care labor from stay at home wives and service labor from African-rican-american men and women and that like you defer that to the 60s and 70s and then it all kind of starts to unravel right but like it it makes me wonder if like because what we replaced that with what we've replaced fordism with was neoliberalism obviously we've known neoliberalism to be exhausted for a while like ideologically it's just done like we've
Starting point is 00:35:46 run hard up against its capacities but there's nothing to replace it there's no political vision bernie tried to like revive an older kind of fortism and replace it with that but that didn't work and uh so like having seen that there's nothing left in the tank there, because obviously it seems like the future is like more revanchism, nationalism, like right wing chauvinism. What the libs are going with is like, well, we'll just what we will do is we'll try to incorporate another nation into our body politic, legally not like formally but like just kind of abstractly and in doing that we'll sort of reinvigorate all these older racial ideologies uh because you know you can run you can run things off of that for a short short time right like that's that has worked for capitalists and social planners in the past but it's also emboldening emboldening like like you said some of those revanchist forces that like believe like protocols of the elders desire on top yeah
Starting point is 00:36:57 like conspiracies about you know jewish supremacy and stuff like that 100 you know what i mean it's so like you can see how like if you can't rightly see and divide what's going on here how some fucking uh nut in a militia in michigan sees this as like one of those dual loyalty trope type things yeah dude you know what i mean yeah so it's like doubly dangerous in that same way and that sense does absolutely put jewish lives at risk that is so true you know you're right it revives these older neuroses and fears of uh it plays on these older neuroses and fears that like have you know racist ideologies behind them and then winds up reinforcing them as a way to kind of like just keep things moving and going for a little bit longer and it's like it you know it it was best exemplified in that statement biden
Starting point is 00:37:53 made about um what did he say like if there was no israel there would be no safe place on the planet for jews i want to tell you something. His constantly reparenting that line is so disgusting and dark to me. Dude, it, yeah. So disgusting and dark. It's like, Joe, let me ask you a question. Have we interrogated why Squirrel Hill happened? Have we interrogated, like, some of these, like, real-world examples on our
Starting point is 00:38:26 turf of like anti-semitic violence and other things like like and i don't know it's just like it's almost like they want that stuff to happen so they can bolster the israeli project dude it i mean it it is you sit back as a marx, right? You sit back and like, you look at this stuff. And I know we've remarked on it for two months now, but just the resounding, almost kind of like mirroring of past tragedies and past ideologies, how they're reformulated in this new way. And it's like, the thing that we've operated on for a while, right, is that like, oh, US social relations are almost kind of like
Starting point is 00:39:15 hyper normalized. It's almost like a hyper realism. It's like the decay in the fall of the Soviet Union, right? Where it's like, the ideology has been sucked out of everything and people are so beaten down materially that they can't really even imagine anything else however if if one day it's giving fall of Soviet Union hearing him say that was very much giving fall of Tsarist Russia because it's just like this is like yeah what stage of saris decline are you in like when your leader is constantly trying to like incite pogroms like that's late saris shit yeah it's it's so it's we're past the point no return here you know how else do you interpret that that i mean you literally i don't see how any like i think ash think Ashley Feinberg had, like, a tweet that was like, what exactly are you planning to do to me, buddy? It's like, that's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's like, what are you supposed to think when you hear something like that? Like, holy shit, are you gearing up to throw me under the bus? Like, what the fuck? I got there. I don't. Were it not, and the way he tees it up, were it not for Israel. Right. Were it not for, it's like got this sort of ecclesiastical sort of King James era English sort of rhythm to it.
Starting point is 00:40:35 You know what I mean? Like it, which kind of adds to the sinister effect of it in a way. Yeah. Because it kind of gives it like a biblical proclamation type gravity, which is hard for a man whose brain is essentially syphilitic. Man. It's so weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's like, you know, like somebody's style is immutable. You know, it's kind of why how like Willem de Kooning could still churn out de kooning's even when he couldn't wipe his own ass and like biden is kind of the same thing in reverse you know what i mean it's like the man doesn't know his wife from his sister but like or his father from a kibbutz yeah it's been 65 years since the deadliest day of the Jewish people since the Holocaust. 65 years. You know, after October 7th,
Starting point is 00:41:31 my father, a father returned to his kibbutz to salvage what he could from his home. What was left was the rubble and ruin. The home which hid... Or for that matter,
Starting point is 00:41:44 his long dead father from, you know, a guy that lived in a kibbutzim. But he still knows the game because that's just kind of what's in him. Yeah. And even though his faculties are rapidly declining before our eyes, it's that innate style that he's come to cultivate over this like long career in politics that are making these sort of but the fact that we know he's not there all the way sort of adds to like this sort of sinister quality to it that is i don't know it's just it's that has been jarring to me to see just him keep
Starting point is 00:42:25 repeating that and like on official white house stationery like saying you don't have to be a you have to be jewish to be zionist and like i'm a proud zionist and that's just what it is and it's almost like to me now like i had an abstract sort of idea about that because as we talked about we were Christians. I, and a son, but don'ts to us. Probably.
Starting point is 00:42:48 We probably didn't think of it in those terms, but we were effectively as, as young men. But like, I think I would rather him come out and say, yes, I'm part of a sex cult. You know what I mean? Like it is that it is a cult.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah. Essentially like a murderous cult a death cult well and it's like him putting it all so blatantly like i guess there's there are several different kinds of fascism right there's like a nationalist fascism a religious fascism a racial fascism which is what the nazis were i guess you could call like italian like under mussolini maybe more like nationalist fascism but like i guess in every sense though it is bourgeois democracy kind of like removing its mask and everything becomes extremely literal yeah in that sense it's like it does feel very much like he is the mask on that decay
Starting point is 00:43:44 that's happening globally. I just keep thinking of that meme I keep seeing of the – it's got like – it's a very Appalachian meme now that I think about it. It's got a retaining pond, a retention pond. The pond is Hamas the dam is israel and underneath the dam is like europe and you know the west have you seen that meme going around yeah yeah yeah i think so it's um like and it's you know you i'm sure you've seen some variation of it though in in many ways that is literally the premise of blue of the thin blue line yeah um but it it kind of gets at something which is that like yes bourgeois liberal democracy
Starting point is 00:44:33 is in decay and as a result you've got like israel which is a jewish ethno state aligning and making making alliances and um coordinating with various fascist forces uh in the west like when you've when you've got people like fucking like Christopher Ruffo and like Matt Walsh and other and everybody like you know out there beating the drum for Israel like pretty much makes it pretty clear like what this is about and who it's for right yeah and also too also too you can't discount sort of the christian fascist angle of this too which as we've said is predicated on the idea that jewish people need to die in order to bring about the second return of christ also i've been wrestling with this question. I know this is very basic, sort of religious nonsense, ultimately. But I've been thinking about the Jewishness of Christ.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Was he a Jewish cynic? I'm not persuaded by that argument. But is Christianity inherently anti-Semitic? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah you know what i mean that's a good question because or is it just sort of like the eschatology like sort of millenarian brand is obviously no question anti-semitic but uh you know because like you know it's the same people that would say like oh the jews killed christ or whatever yeah i mean i've even seen people say that
Starting point is 00:46:05 at pro-palestine protests which blew you know obviously you're going to have kooks at any right sort of social justice kind of gathering but there's like always like this guy that's around that's wearing like um i don't know he's wearing like uh like some sort of hat that you would probably associate with with you know that part of the world. And he's a white guy, but he has this thing. It's like free Palestine, but also kind of gets into the Jews kill Christ kind of thing. And in my mind, I'm like, not helping. But there is that sort of strain.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I don't know. I've been thinking about that. But there is that sort of strain. I don't know. I've been thinking about that. And what does the sort of Scripture say about the Jewish tradition that Christ took in? And it's probably obviously changed a lot, as we've talked about. It's like 2,000 years, a lot changes. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:59 As far as I understand it, and I could bechering this but like jesus and the disciples were considered jewish dissidents right yeah like the term christian hadn't become a signifier to denote a split off from judaism i believe that and you know obviously not in cross's time either, you know. I believe that once Gentiles, and by that I mean like Greeks, citizens of the Roman Empire, once they started becoming Christians, that's, once it left, once it left like the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And kind of went to Europe and Asia. Yeah. And didn't really stay in the Middle East. Right. Once it stopped being a critique of Judaism and a breakaway of that and started including these other populations, then you start getting the coalescing
Starting point is 00:47:56 of an actual Christian sect or something that's entirely new and different on its own yeah um yeah but like no these guys like i mean obviously the apostle paul wrote you know for for me to live as christ and to die as game but would they have considered themselves christians like in the codified sort of like did they see this as like this is our religion now because that that word religion is not really even used in the scripture except for one or two times been both times with qualifiers in front of it yeah but i'm just paul paul is emblematic of that conversion he changed his name from a jewish name saul to like a romanized name like paul you know what i'm saying yeah like
Starting point is 00:48:47 i don't know if that's when the the actual transition occurred but i'm assuming that by like the second century you could probably easily say that like this is its own thing by that point yeah to connect it back to your original point though when you've got all all these people like rufo and matt walsh and all these who believe in this christian zionist idea like they see the dam and they see hamas up you know in western civilization down below and they and ben shapiro and they use these terms like Judeo-Christian like I guess that is kind of what I'm referring to like the rise of that term Judeo-Christian is a relatively new one maybe in the last 80 years
Starting point is 00:49:31 I think also like the melding of the two yeah like yeah like and like I said a kind of like absorption of the body politic also Islam conveniently left out of that schematic to right even though they're all three abrahamic faiths drives me nuts like that that tweet that was like you know had the
Starting point is 00:49:50 palestinian flagstick person kicking the like you know where's your help you know kind of mocking muslims or whatever it's like yeah you literally worship the same god it's the question is how you're reconciled back to him is what the three abrahamic faiths are bickering about or or split on the question right but not who the god is right right fucking idiots man they don't even that's what that's proves they don't serve god you know they don't they serve man they serve satan yes but like i also though like i think the point you were gonna make and i think the point that i was driving at as well is that like that christian zionism thing the judeo-christian principle the concept it has an expiration date
Starting point is 00:50:42 for one of the parties in there like do you really think that like rufo and matt walsh and everybody like once they've completed their project are just going to like be okay with allowing jews to be involved with it as well like fuck no that's why like i almost have started seeing like the late capitalist bourgeois order as a star and like, you know how stars die, you know, like stars are these engines of like fusion and fission,
Starting point is 00:51:13 I guess. Burn off eventually. Yeah. Yeah. Like once a star dies, the center caves in and everything else starts getting sucked into it. Nothing comes out of that. It's only,
Starting point is 00:51:24 it only draws inward. It's like when you see that meme of Israel holding up the thing, it's like, okay, once this all kicks into motion, like the natural tendencies of like ethno-supremacy and racial ideology and everything will eventually turn on the ones that they have erected to serve as that dam of the unwashed teaming masses. By that I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:55 eventually they'll fucking take Israel into a back alley and put two in the back of their head. It's like, that's, and that's the really dark thing here, right? It's like, this is a murderous
Starting point is 00:52:05 genus murderous genocidal fascist regime that we're propping up however the minute that we get out of it what we want we'll fucking take them out too right and like the u.s can put a sheen on it like a veneer of like oh well we're still uh you know we we still hold to these like values and principles and liberal democratic norms but like obviously those become even more facile and farcical i mean it's it's just like it's a joke at this point yeah i mean like look at the look again look at your guy like you know what i mean like not even just him like the dog tags around the fucking collar and just these never-ending stream of lanyard dicks and yeah and like they go out there to take bullets you know from actual journalists who have covered this thing for years and years
Starting point is 00:52:57 you know and come all out there like burping up champagne bubbles and stuff you know in front of like audiences it's like there's nothing here. Mark my words. Kamala Harris will have, there will be like a 30 minute ABC modern family-esque sitcom about Kamala in the next 10 or 15 years. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Where it's like, it's just, oh, she's so kooky and zanned out and whined out or something like that. That would be like the crux of it, know oh yeah you're right i mean uh i think that's the thing like i it's so vapid there's there's just it's so devoid of anything that like even i feel like she's even leaned into like the veep bit like isn't it funny and quirky how i'm like veep yeah dude yeah because that's what it is i mean that's what there's no governance there is no trying to make things better right there is it's fundraising yeah well you saw that like
Starting point is 00:54:03 that story that was going around white house open to new border expulsion law mandatory detention and increased deportations in talks with congress for them to get their ukraine funding they're going to step up more deportations they're more kids in cages at the borders even though i don't even think they have to do that like i'm pretty sure that like the aid package biden signed off on like a month ago included a fuck ton of funding for the border already yeah uh but i don't know like it's we've stressed it over and over again but like what we're talking here is the large secular decline and decay of bourgeois democracy as a... I mean, dude, there's an op-ed in the New York Times today
Starting point is 00:54:52 from Charles Blow. Remember that, dude? Curtis Blow. These are the breaks. Yeah. Curtis Blow is now an op-ed writer for the New York Times. Oh, I do remember him. He did a couple of the beleaguered hillbilly stories during the Trump country era.
Starting point is 00:55:11 These are the breaks. My name is Charles Blow. The economy's better than you really think. uh he his his op-ed this week it's called the the title for it is america's thirst for authoritarianism i mean he's not all bad he's just kind of your bog standard lib like he's not yeah yeah he's not all bad but like um but he he writes around the world authoritarianism is ascendant and democracy is in decline a 2002 report from the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance That's funny.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I require electoral assistance, please. Is that the hotline you call when you need a ride to the polls? Yeah. You sprain your ankle and you need electoral assistance um found that over the past six years the number of countries moving toward authoritarianism is more than double the number moving toward democracy and that nearly half of the 173 countries assessed were experiencing
Starting point is 00:56:18 declines in at least one metric of democracy no no not not not metric declines the u.s wasn't impervious to this trend the report found that america was moderately back backsliding on its democracy fuck we're a nation of backsliders we are a nation back i've known this since forever uh i do think this is like documenting though a real phenomenon like yes like all these metrics are dumb and like how do you even quantify something like this it's very stupid all right but i do feel like everyone knows it deep down right you know it that like democracy as they presented it and built it up as a sham right it kind of gets it where we were talking about last week on the show which is that like we can't really think dialectically most of us haven't trained ourselves to think this way
Starting point is 00:57:11 however if you start looking at the two-party system that way like what you see is i mean there is the quote that's like americans love democracy so much uh or they love one party rules so much they have two parties right yeah but like i and i think that that's it but obviously like the two parties like show they demonstrate such antithetical and rhetorical difference on things that it looks like they are separate and that like it is a choice between one of the two um however i mean this i don't mean this as like a a cliche trite critique of the two-party system or like vote green party vote third party i don't mean any of that i mean
Starting point is 00:57:59 like in a long-term secular marxist way like it seems clear to me that capitalist democracy tends toward this almost authoritarian type rule that disguises itself in a participatory process you know what i'm saying yeah so it's like there's and there's really no way out of it using that same participatory process i mean uh i don't want to apply a universal and say that that's true all across the board at all instances i just mean that like there is a very intricate and nonsensical system of checks and balances within the electoral system that makes sure that, like, there's a reason we always bitch about, like, the electoral college or any of these, like, sort of fail safes. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:54 That we, like, kind of piss and moan about, which is why the Trump election was so kind of jarring. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because there was the room for that. Right. Like, have we asked ourselves why there was room because there was the room for that right like well have we asked yourselves why there was room for trump but no room for bernie right right right you know what i mean yeah well i i think it's because like trump was acceptable but bernie was beyond the pale
Starting point is 00:59:17 i think it's because like what bernie represented has basically been tried uh i mean granted uh he was presenting a more social justice a more just version of it but what he was presenting was a kind of like post new deal welfare state for this system right yeah which is impossible to return to um and biden and them know it but and that's why so much of what they say is purely rhetorical well it's not even rhetorical anymore they have fully switched over to just berating and scolding and insulting everybody did you say it is it is it's it's sort of a fascism uh it's like a nicer fascism in a way yeah you know what i mean it's like if if they start you know people start causing too much trouble they may level up but like right now like at home we can't be like pulling people out of their houses and shooting them in the head and stuff like that no you know like that's yeah they can't even do it properly i mean mussolini famously said
Starting point is 01:00:30 that like what is fascism but exactly what fdr is doing in america like he said what now he said like what is italian fascism i'm probably butchering the quote but like what is italian fascism if not exactly what FDR is doing in America? He was talking about the New Deal. Yeah. And he was talking about like a corporatist compact between like labor and capital and the state. Yeah. And obviously, like the kind of like racist premises that the New Deal was built on opened it for that, opened it up to that kind of co-optation and critique yeah but
Starting point is 01:01:06 biden and them aren't even doing that like they're not even they're not even doing the corporatist fordist compact to keep everybody happy they're just painting a photo pointing at it and saying if you don't agree with this you're fucking insane there was a tweet from jonathan chate today uh i ordered two filet mignons duck orange baked alaska wolfgang puck coming to my house to prepare the meal plus a few kilos of cocaine to amp us up while we cooked my god it was not cheap i can see why voters are angry at biden it's just like basically like mocking anybody like that's the tone they feel in the pinch right now yeah yeah they've all taken this mocking tone and like they're not gonna let off of it the closer
Starting point is 01:01:56 we get to the i know and what's so funny about it is it's not funny about it but it's like uh like everybody's like punted on the idea of having a dignified life we're talking about like bare necessities here we're not talking about luxuries but they're acting like every american's a brat that uh doesn't get like you know peaking duck three times a day you know right i mean i mean i'm astonished like as a political strategy dude again i don't really have any fucking um i don't have a dog in this fight necessarily rather than my own life my own fucking scalp but like it's astonishing that that is what they've chosen like okay instead of like trying to actually list we're not even doing i hear you i see you anymore we're doing fuck you that's the thing now fuck you we're actually
Starting point is 01:02:50 gonna laugh at your misery and immiseration that's so it's so crazy and then and then you are in turn the person ushering in the the era of fucking brutality and fascism if you if you point that out and refuse to play ball. Yep. That's exactly right. Like, they've even pinned that on us. Which is crazy, too. Like, you know, a lot of people,
Starting point is 01:03:15 in sort of this era, we throw around words like victim blaming. You know what I mean? But it's kind of apt in this situation because, like, they have rigged it to if we lose it's your fault but if we are ascended and we're allowed to do what we do too then you sharing that culpability too right i i.e obama saying well we all have a little culpability right you know what i mean it's like why do i even fuck with you to begin with well it is weird i mean everybody is chasing an illusion or a ghost of some kind
Starting point is 01:03:52 like i opened compact mag my favorite my fave favorite publication yeah and like the top story the new green feudalism and the whole thing is about like how like green energy and like the just transition is turning us all into like feudal subjects and it's like dude there's no just transition there's no no the fucking they hinted at it in the ira bill but like that's not the same thing when you've got like yeah and a week later what happened at that summit not the same thing. When you've got, like... Yeah, and a week later, what happened at that summit with the guy, the one dude that's like, no, there's no evidence for climate change related to this. Like, it's a rich fucking thing coming out the same week
Starting point is 01:04:34 as the COP28 climate talks, where, like, the number of oil and gas lobbyists has never been higher. You're out of your fucking mind. Like, that's what kills me about these compact mag people like they they refuse to fucking deal with political economy as it is even they are mystified by the profit drive even they don't understand that like what incentive does exxon mobile have to getting out of oil and gas production none none they'll keep fucking doing it until we're
Starting point is 01:05:07 all dead that's the fucking drive to profit until until we are the fossil fuel until we till they're digging up our bones our bones to burn for it to further imperil what's left of the planet there is no fucking green feudalism yeah like wake the fuck up man you're right they're turning us into fucking fossil fuels that's the fucking feudalism they're trying to get us in the ground quicker to uh bolster production i'm convinced everyone's chasing their own ghost everyone everyone who has like a neurosis or an anxiety of some kind in this case it's the anxiety again once again probably the specter of the left and like what uh a communally owned ecosystem and biosphere would mean like that's terrifying to these selfish fucking
Starting point is 01:06:01 ideologues and so like what what it manifests as is this like anxiety towards green feudalism oh my god like what we're gonna have a fucking like you think like uh van jones is gonna be like our king or something like in a green feudal system like who is that who would be the fucking monarch like bill mckibben or something bill mckibben uh you fucking go pay fealty to like your green king yeah what the fuck are you talking about you fucking morons yeah jesus there's not work there is no feudalism i know it i know it it's like okay like yes capitalism in this like late stage of decline is reverting more and more to rentier forms, which people associate with feudalism. However, everywhere I look, I still see the profit death drive everywhere.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Everywhere. Yes, that's not feudalism. No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's see. Hold on a second. I was trying to find something. Oh, man. Ah, shit. I can't find it. Anyway. You got no, no. We're... Let's see. Hold on a second. I was trying to find something. Oh, man. Ah, shit.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I can't find it. Anyway. You got time, bro. Go for it. I'll just read the green... The pursuit of the green agenda accelerated under Biden marks a new phase of futilization.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Nonprofits funded by green-tidged oligarchs to push renewable energy raise four times the amount of funding spent by advocates for nuclear or fossil fuels. Okay. What the fuck are you talking about did they raise more money they raise so they're they're they're saying that the green movement has raised more money than the oil and gas companies yeah i like it's just it's just a classic example of how these people think they're so clever. He comes up with a new term he calls the clerisy. White-collar workers who benefit from expanding government power,
Starting point is 01:07:52 whom he calls the clerisy. For the clerisy, climate change yields psychic rewards, as well as a new means of exerting power over citizens. As in the Middle Ages, when the church encouraged the belief that human sin was the root cause of our troubles, the green clerisy now preaches that humanity must atone for its crimes against nature by accepting a new regime of pervasive social control and diminished opportunity. I don't think that.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I think that, like, the CEO of ExxonMobil should be drawn and quartered, but I don't think that, like, every human being on the planet should be drawn and quartered. No, no. don't think that like every human being on the planet should be in chlorine no no so uh yeah i think this is the fundamental difference right like they want they think that yeah our culpability is oh we all deserve death because we were born into this world that's like and we're leeching resources or whatever yeah when really and truly the people that are you know benefiting off this is is we just cut the serpent's head off and we'll just skip all the they hate people yeah well they they do and they what they hate more than anything when i'm starting
Starting point is 01:08:58 to realize right it's like in the absence of like a state communist project anti-communism looks a lot different and it starts to look more and more like a neurosis rather than like a coordinated project of like institutions and like maneuverings around the globe right and so when marx wrote in the communist manifesto like a specter is haunting europe he was talking about the left and communism all throughout the communist manifesto there's all these like little mentions and uh uh all these little like mentions of various state powers in europe use employing red baiting and it's interesting because like red baiting as a thing mostly went away in the 90s and 2000s. It is back full force now because there is a specter hanging over this.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Yes. Is the left powerful? Does it is it able to influence or exert any? Is it able to exert any influence or power over the mechanisms and levers of power? No. However, it is a specter in the way that marx invoked it right and so that's what's behind this shit people people get scared because they're scared of the prospect of communization communal property ownership the abolition of private property it's like that's what motivates the green feudal scare man like they they they they're gonna utilize this transition away from fossil fuels to like you know everything everything will be i won't be able to have my fucking 300 000 square foot man mcmansion with my uh two two thousand dollar air conditioning
Starting point is 01:10:39 bill every month yeah made out of fucking uh pasteboard particle board you know strong wind would fucking enact a lot of damage to it um i don't know there's so much to unpack there but were you did you find what you were looking for no i couldn't find it as the moment's gone i was trying to find something that was connected back to my bad i should have it teed up don't beat yourself up brother um well um i think that probably covers it for the day we've thoroughly exercised all the all the demons we were planning to do today um but i guess if you have anything else you would like to add, anything you think of? No, you got some speak your pieces here.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I did send you some speak your pieces. We can do them if you want. You want to do speak your piece? Do you want to get to, I mean. We haven't done it in a long time, and I just saw it in the newspaper today, and there was one that made me laugh a lot. I wouldn't mind taking the temperature,
Starting point is 01:11:42 especially because this piebald deer is really front and center on people's minds the piebald what is it piebald deer it's a deer that it's spots are reversed so like a normal deer will like have brown you know like be brown with a white undercarriage with the white spots uh-huh a piebald is white with the brown spots okay it's like that's a specter of its own it's like haunting people's imaginations well actual realities uh a sheriff's deputy is accused of poaching one oh in letcher county yeah yeah so a deputy poached a piebald deer well i i don't know that to be true or not but a lot lot of people seem to think he may have. So we'll kick it off with this. Could Letcher County request the piebald deer recently taken by the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife be returned to our county?
Starting point is 01:12:38 I understand confiscated items are put up for auction from time to time, so it would be possible for this rare deer to be given to the letcher county extension office or the letcher county public library so that it can remain in our community wait wait wait where were they put it in the library are they like wait hold a second i'm confused so if the if the guy whether he posted or really shot it or whatever like legitimately with license oh they're talking about having about having it stuffed and put in the library. Well, I'm wondering, is there another one? Or are they talking, or they want to do this like rare deer like Lennon's tomb, you know? A mausoleum to the...
Starting point is 01:13:19 To the rare deer. To the rare deer. Let's see. Would it be possible for this rare deer to be given to the Letcher County Extension Office or the Letcher County Public Library so that it can remain? Okay, I guess they're talking about the stuffed deer. So they can remain in our community. Maybe one day we will have a visitor center or a tourism building
Starting point is 01:13:40 where it can be placed for many people to enjoy. Maybe. I would like that dare to dream let's count yeah let me tell you something that's a dad burn shame if the politicians would just leave us alone taking away our life i'm talking about coal yes what god gave us to make a living out of politicians are destroying our way of life. I remember what they said. Shut the coal plants down.
Starting point is 01:14:09 They have accomplished their goal, not to mention what AEP is getting away with. Oh, boy. Eastern Kentucky is being R-A-P-E-D'd. I'm sure there are children in eastern Kentucky that do need help, but I'm also sure that all across Kentucky there are kids that need the help too. That one's kind of all over the place. It's like, fuck environmentalists, fuck AEP. It's also very like, yeah, that person's chasing the ghost of the war on coal.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Mountain Eagle. Calling me a fool, don't make me a fool. Calling yourselves a newspaper, don't make me. Okay, Mountain Eagle. This is to the Mountain Eagle. Right. Calling me a fool, don't make me a fool. And calling yourselves a newspaper, don't make you a damn newspaper.
Starting point is 01:15:04 The crow about the low employment, if you'll go up and check the Whitesburg jail and the graveyards, you'll see why you've got unemployment. There's nobody to work. The southern border's got fentanyl and methamphetamines coming across it by the truckloads. Thousands of people dying in this country every single year. Editor's note.
Starting point is 01:15:26 When did we call you a fool? And when were we crowing about unemployment? Okay, just to return to an earlier statement in that, Speaker Bees, was he implying that if you want to learn about unemployment, go to a graveyard and count the headstones. I think what he's saying is like the dead are unemployed. He said,
Starting point is 01:15:49 yeah, that's true. Dead deceased. Unemployment is nearing a hundred percent in Biden's America. We got to switch those numbers out. You know? Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Uh, not every dead person is unemployed though. Surprisingly Tupac decor gainfully employed he is working hard my man is still hustling but beyond the grave hey frankenstein i thought you were something of a tough guy i tell you what i watched a video of a guy who just handed you your ass and you didn't even try to swing a punch and he offered you he offered you to hold your fist out and you wouldn't he spl to swing a punch and he offered you he offered you to hold your fist out and you wouldn't he splattered your damn nose all over your face threw you on the ground
Starting point is 01:16:30 and whipped you like a red-headed stepchild well i see now where your bloodline comes from i went to school with your daddy and i saw the same thing done to him and it got done to you frankenstein got the oil drained out of him. Thanks, Lord. Just a lineage of people getting their ass kicked. God damn. A lineage of pussies. Well, hey, I shouldn't
Starting point is 01:16:56 say that. Just because you get your ass kicked doesn't make you a pussy. No. No, I mean. It just means you're bad at fighting. I am bad at fighting. The thing is being able to Pack an ass weapon I have been punched in the face Okay let me tell you
Starting point is 01:17:12 Getting punched in the nose Sucks so fucking bad Yeah Makes you mad makes you cry It does make you cry Immediately like tears And then the worst anger you've ever
Starting point is 01:17:26 experienced in your life and if you're like me someone who wears glasses your immediate first thought is oh my god are my glasses broke do I look like a a fool
Starting point is 01:17:36 okay well here's something here's somebody else also looking for the messianic third wave of ska dude this one fucking one of the most one of the most underappreciated genres music is ska it is very relaxing to listen to two of the greatest artists in music period include hootie and the blowfish and the goo goo dolls neither neither band i would consider uh ska but you know one man's uh you know alternative 90s radio is another man's ska i need to know like what he thinks
Starting point is 01:18:16 it's very relaxing to listen to like his signals got crossed somewhere like i think he thinks or maybe what he's saying is this when that messianic next wave of ska comes it won't even sound like ska oh you're right it might sound like it might sound like 90s radio yes you're right the next you're right the return well folks thanksgiving's finally over and I think I ate too much turkey. It's December 14th. What are you talking about? Now when people talk to me, all I can say is gobble, gobble, gobble.
Starting point is 01:18:54 They don't seem to understand what I'm saying. They give me a funny look. It's beginning to be a problem for me, all right? Gobble, gobble, gobble. You know, a little untimely holiday humor coming at you. That's right. You got a joker here. You hypocrite.
Starting point is 01:19:11 You think you're so superior to get behind and speak your piece. Ha, ha, ha. You need to grow up. I'm calling about a certain restaurant. It's the nastiest damn place i've ever been and it's way overpriced whoever the cook is needs to be fired i've never been in a place that's nasty the floors are disgusting the waitresses are nasty it's nasty people it's nasty i'm tickled to death we've got our governor back for a second term now if we can't elect some good democrats to the state legislature
Starting point is 01:19:45 maybe we just need to get out there and maybe we need to get rid of some of these crazy laws republicans are passing i thought they were gonna say maybe we need to get out there and get rid of some of these republicans oh yeah well he was inaugurated this week but sure was yeah with tyler children singing a song about west West Virginia at the inauguration. What? An interesting choice. It is interesting. Let's see what else we got. Pay attention.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I like these guys. Go down to the second. Below the fold. Pay attention. The weak and the powerful stay together until the day the powers get fired at the Battle of Armageddon. The weak stay with them to the end, and neither one of them is going to get raptured out of here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I saw that one, and I scratched my head at that one for a long time. The weak and the powers stay together until the day the powers get fired at the battle of Armageddon. The weak stay with them to the end, and neither of the what like is that like um maybe that's like a uh maybe that is a critique of maybe that's maybe he's saying that's what fascism is it's an alliance between the weak and the powerful and he's not going to do your homework for you though and he's not going to do your homework just uh open and turn interpretation enough to encourage you you know right it's not going to do your homework yet. Leave it just to open interpretation enough to encourage you, you know. Right. It's not his job to educate you.
Starting point is 01:21:09 So sit your mayo ass down. Racism's back, folks. That's not part of the Speak Your Peace. I'm just saying that based on just a cursory glance at this Speak Your Peace, it seems like racism could be back in a big way. Okay. It is amazing how easy Democrats can refer to faith-believing people as so-called Christians for voting for Donald John Trump, when it was the Democrats that led us into the Civil War,
Starting point is 01:21:39 World War I, World War II, the Korean War, Vietnam War, and the Democrats also gave us Bull Connor, segregation, the Ku Klux Klan, and Jim Crow laws. And just look at us now with Joe Biden in charge. Wars and rumors of wars. One disastrous policy after another. Rampant violence, inflation, wokeism, division, hatred. I'll stop now because Speaker Peace can't print everything that should be printed. I got an editor's note here.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Let's see what we got. Since the definition of wokeism is, quote, being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination, end quote, how do you place it on the same level of segregation the Ku Klux Klan and Jim Crow laws? A fair question. He got your ass. Fair question. Those. A fair question. He got your ass. Fair question. Those liberals can sometimes... The editor got your ass.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Let's see. We'll do one or two more here. We got a glass pipe store over here at Colson, and they claim that down the road, they've got the stuff to go in those glass pipes. Just reporting the news. There are many positive things happening in Jenkins for the future. However, there are several items that need immediate attention.
Starting point is 01:22:59 This includes roads, drains, drugs, speeding, schools, garbage, jobs, dogs, and chickens. The chickens are out of control chickens. I mean, insane chicken problem. Drugs need immediate attention. Boy, I'll say. I need them immediately. One item the city government, including the city attorney, needs to focus on is the dilapidated and fallen down homes. This is not only a job for the mayor, but for the city council members as well.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Don't just attend the city council meetings. Drive around Jenkins. List those properties that need to be improved or removed. If the people elected the council, why not do something? What, be a real estate agent that doesn't get paid to do it? Let's be like a hybrid cop slash real estate agent. Let's see. Let's make Jenkins a place people want to live.
Starting point is 01:23:56 They will certainly not want to live next to one of those blighted properties. And we thank you. Oh, okay. Well, there you have it. Well, let's one more, one more here. Okay, all right. Just in case anybody's reading this, passing through Pike County,
Starting point is 01:24:11 I just wanted everybody to know that gasoline's $2.73 in Pikeville and we're paying $3.09. Same brand, same station, different prices. Fucked up, dude. So. So fucked up. Go get your gasoline in Pikeville, I pipe well i guess all right well we gotta go
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