Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 341: Sedition Draft 2024
Episode Date: May 2, 2024A discussion on the continuing protests on college campuses, as well as the overwhelming crackdown on them Please support our deranged show on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty...
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Well, we've just found out that Aaron's going to Angola
as the first draft pick of the campus anti-Semitism won't stay in draft.
Hoping we win this year.
Looks like it's going to be a tough year, but you know.
Aaron Thorpe, first round draft, Louisiana and Angola.
Terrence Ray getting also a first-round draft.
ADX Florence.
Ah!
Man.
They've already got a chance.
I'm a dark horse second-round pick that can really help, you know,
federal prison.
What's the one in Martin County call?
Big Sandy.
Yeah, Big Sandy.
They're in a rebuilding year so they're
you know thinking about getting a bargain on me in the second round make sure they get you in there
early oh man for those of you at home we just watched president biden's remarks about uh
anti-semitism on campus and uh kind of shattered a little bit i i was honestly it was very entertaining
watching your face aaron it was just like how how far can he pull the skin
away from his eye like how much further can my jaw drop unhinged until it unhinges from my top
jaw like a fucking anaconda or something you start looking like the thing and
the thing right it's it's been draft week it's been draft week all around this week i mean like
the nfl draft literally but then right like yes biden's anti-semitism campus uh carceral draft
uh where we were all beheading but then i was at the i was at the gym the other
day and i did not take a picture i wish so bad i would have taken a picture but i have a strict
policy of never taking photos of strangers like uh unless they like consent to it or unless they're
like in a police situation yeah exactly exactly yeah but But not the shit that everyone's doing online now
where it's like, oh, look at what this person's doing.
It's like, what are you taking a picture of that lady and her kid for, man?
Are you a gym influencer?
Are you like making fun of people's physique?
No, it had nothing to do.
I only go to the gym at like 2 p.m.
And the only people that go to the gym at 2 p.m.
are usually old people.
And I wish I looked over
and they had CNN, the trump trial on the tv
and there were like at least four or five old people like crowded around that motherfuckers
they were all just like looking like hanging on everywhere as soon as it came on dude they all
like i saw i looked out of the corner of my eye and i all saw them moving towards the tv it was
like a herd of buffalo and some shit like that.
Like moths to a flame, you know?
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, I wanted to say, too, right before we recorded, I was trying to find out if it was playing on CNN.
So that's when I told you, Terrence, in the chat.
I told you all I saw.
You know, they're showing the Trump trial.
And I don't know, man.
They just had the music, like the epic music, as if it was like, you know what I mean?
Some like sporting event. And then the anchor said uh they've got the challenges right actually a commercial for
challengers came on right before that so i was a little bit it was a little bit uncanny
but the the announcer was like a gavel to gavel coverage and i'm like dude they're really
i'm gonna tell you something if you put a uh trentnor, Atticus Ross soundtrack to the C-SPAN proceedings,
that really could give it a shot in the arm and be tight as hell.
To Trump walking out to that real pulsing synth music,
that could be tight as hell.
Gavel to gavel coverage is amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
I don't know anything about that.
I've not even remotely checked it.
I've made it a point to not learn about that.
Like if somebody talks about it, I turn around and walk in the other direction.
If I see it on TV, I turn it off immediately.
Not on watch cable, but if I see it, I don't get it.
Aaron and Trump leading the Louisiana Angolans to the league title next year you know hand in hand hand in hand if yeah if i'm going
to jail i like i at least want to be in there with trump god you know here's the thing if i if
they could swear to me protection and that i would be trump's bunk mate i i would from an
anthropological standpoint,
I'd mortgage two years of my life for that
experience. No, you're right.
That's kind of like, I guess,
the crew of the Enterprise.
They beam down to a planet, you know what I mean?
For anthropological reasons.
It would be a case study.
Tommy, it's not gay.
It's just the two of us here
nobody will ever know in your fantasy you're having sex with trump
it's not gay if it's in prison it it's just it's it's just a um
rehashing of every single it's it's just a rehashing of their entire approach to this
thing from day one it's like um plenty of like dude they are reproducing everything trump ever
said and did he literally just went out there and did a speech where he said plenty of blame on all
sides or plenty what was trump's uh thing um it was uh uh good people on both sides plenty of good
people about he literally just went out there and did that and it's just like everything they said true i mean i know it's a hack point but it's just it
bears repeating like if they're passing laws that like urge the department of education to
broaden the definition of anti-semitism and like clamp down on it and like
i what it's i told time like it's it's lighted out for us i'll
see you boys in the funny papers yeah we're i'm yeah adx florence first round draft like
we're fucked the thing man is just like you know it's like with the speech he he hinged upon
every single bad faith claim or accusation that's been made right like i mean we've seen videos right
especially that video uh of that woman who's wearing the shirt that says i'm a jew right
and she's walking through the through the quad and nobody gives a shit right we've seen videos
of peaceful protesters being attacked by cops or by fucking black shirts who are literally recreating right the fucking
like the fucking pillaging right these settlers right and i guess the west bank but it's just like
dude i mean everything and i just want to bring one thing it's like everybody everybody knew what
trump was doing when he said to the proud boys stand by and stand back or something like
that you know everybody knew right that when trump was president anything that he said and did right
it had weight to it and it influenced people and inspired people but when it's joe biden i mean like
what the fuck is he's like he's like he's like just just he can't do anything right he's weak
you know he's ineffectual right well it's it's one of those things where if you listen just with your CNN ears,
that sounded like a very even-handed speech,
but when your lived reality is going to these protests and being on the ground,
you realize that they weight that rule of law a little heavier than they weight free speech.
100%.
Well, I mean, what did he say?
He said, I tried to write it down uh you know there's a
right to protest but not break the law dissent must never lead to disorder uh in america we
respect the right to protest i mean like if you look at what happened on like austin's campus on ut austin like it was quite literally an example of them proactively
going and triggering a violent response from the protesters i mean like i wouldn't even call it a
violent response from the protesters they literally they just went in and started cracking skulls like
that's why i was really nervous me and tom went to a protest on uk campus yesterday and that's
why i was nervous because it seems like every video i've seen the cops have been the ones that
have gone and started it and there was a huge police presence there for it it was it wasn't a
a particularly huge protest or anything like that and it was totally uh peaceful and nobody was like busting windows or anything.
And still yet, like right around the perimeter, they had like tons of vehicles, tons of police. They were like ready to crack down at a moment's notice the first time somebody goose-stepped.
I've never seen, I'll say this, I've never seen anything like it.
It was, I came into campus from, I don't even know my directions directions let's just say it was the east side
on the east side it's always east side oh yeah yeah and i came across a police barricade they
had this road barricaded and this this suburban pulled up with like some frat boys inside and
one of the the driver goes hey is this protest pretty big and the cop just
like flatly immediately just said i don't know and just tried to get them to go away because i don't
you know what i mean like i think most cops like they hate to they they hate to have anybody like
challenging their authority like obviously it goes towards like the most of their ire goes towards like leftists and
everything.
But like,
and they would never beat the shit out of like frat kids at a party or
something.
But all cops fucking hate people,
right?
They see themselves as above people.
They don't fucking like people.
So if you ask them a question,
you know,
basically it's in a tone of fuck off,
you know,
that was,
that was the thing.
It was just,
it was in a tone of fuck off.
And like,
that was my first thing.
And so then I,
I went into campus and then it's immediately i'm greeted by like five
massive police uh suvs um at least like a dozen police they've got the fucking rv the one i was
telling you about tom yesterday the one i saw driving in lexington there's this massive it's
the size of a tour bus it's called like a mobile command center, like the Lexington Police Mobile Command Center.
They've got that motherfucker out there.
And then I finally got up to the protest, and I just hung back for the first like 10, 15 minutes.
I just wanted to see like what was going on.
So the whole perimeter of the protest, there was cops.
Again, I have been to plenty of protests in my life.
Never seen anything like this. The of cops around the the perimeter there was undercover cops i assume they were
undercover cops or who knows like there was this guy on a bicycle guys jogging and one guy sitting
on a bench reading a newspaper you know get the fuck out of here get the fuck out of here yo
that's some spook shit yo i mean it wasn't but it was like tantamount
to that yeah and they had earpieces in and um and i just followed one of them i just followed
one of them for like five minutes i was just walking behind him and just like it's just
just like i followed i just want to say i love that like it just reminds me i saw people
kettling the cops you know and like just these
tactics that they would use so like I'm just gonna follow your crowd the way you're following us you
but the thing that really was astonishing that I've never seen it anything like this was the
amount of fucking press the media was insane there was at least like so there's local news right
a bunch of like local news reporters and there's tons of cameras every
time they would do the chants from the river to the sea or intifada intifada the the cameras would
start rolling we can't we can't do when they're having like a inter inter religious prayer
sessions you know we can't we can't do it when they're like doing political education or giving
speeches we have to do it there's're chanting and waiting in the signs.
There's a gentleman talking about living in apartheid South Africa and his experience there.
It's like, no, none of that.
But as soon as you get a bunch of Arab people saying a scary word, then that's what they're going to dial in on.
It was interesting, man.
It got me thinking just standing there.
man it was like it just kind of it got me thinking like just standing there like if you were just you know like average american like sitting at home uh you know you've kind of just stayed aloof
from this the whole time like it's now being beamed in to like five o'clock news hour you
know what i mean to like the average american's dinner table and it's really wild that like you are invited and encouraged to see those statements
as tantamount to the revival of the third reich and i i don't really think that people are
leaping to that point like readily um i also don't think they're necessarily being radicalized in the opposite
direction either it's hard to say like i don't you know i don't fucking know um but it really
did get me thinking like if you if you are just the kind of like maybe like an apolitical person
who like we were talking about the other day like you're raised in american public school system
like you're taught about the holocaust and stuff you're taught about like anti-semitism and hitler and everything
and like the the news is encouraging you to see this as like the new hitlerism and you reject that
like that's an interesting thing like what is the distance that's being traveled there you know
what i'm saying like what what is the distance that like if you reject that and you say no actually like israel is the purveyor of global anti-semitism like zionism is endangering
jewish people in the jewish faith it's interesting that's just an interesting thing i guess it's like
it's there's some sort of like force field or like field of energy that's like
be getting hinted at there that like is mystified obviously it's mystified every time
you like turn on the tv and every time that they pump that out at the five o'clock news
but i i don't know man this is kind of what i meant last week by it being sort of like prime
contradiction like it's the lengths they have to go to to mystify it it's it's it's it's it's almost
like i don't know how to put it but it's almost like it's almost like
there's this barrier or something like that this permeable barrier you know but i guess it's semi
permeable right there are only certain ideas that can filter through you know and then when they
get beyond that they're kind of the word the meaning of words are twisted you know like i
mean just the fact that if if you're telling or you're saying that Jewish students feel afraid because there are students protesting against genocide.
Right. Then wouldn't you say that's like a cooptation?
Right. Of that, of that, of what's really going on.
Right. Of that fear of that genocide, which is like, you know, being exacted
out on the Palestinian people,
you know? I don't know, man. It's just like
for the past seven months, we've just gotten
to this weird, topsy-turvy world
where, like I was saying
to you in the chat, you know, it's like
the utility
of words, right? So like,
I guess, speak truth to power, right?
They're trying to strip that away, right? They're trying to strip that... Right, not even speak truth to power right they're trying to strip that away
right yeah they're trying to strip that right not even speaking to the power just to be able to like
narrate narrate the world in a comprehensible coherent way in general exactly it's like
forcing all words into this like hyperbaric chamber where they lose all meaning and ability
to absolutely drive the world in any meaningful way well yo i
mean that's why that's why i saw uh you know you we've been seeing reporters um who've been whining
about students not wanting to talk to them and it's like well dude every time that you fucking
every time that they talk to you you don't you don't you don't write what they say you don't
listen to what they say you just twist it to facilitate slaughter.
So why the fuck would they speak to you? You know? Yeah. Did you see that video of that girl that was crying because none of the protesters would talk to her?
And she was like, yes, violence. This is violence. I need to stress the president of the United States just got on TV and said that college students must suffer they must get their
shit kicked in because a lone protester went out there and said that nobody would talk to her and
that was violence also also too also too let's just say that when he says um um occupying like
buildings right is violence right dog i mean i know this is a hack point but
civil disobedience is just like i mean this is just like a cornerstone right of like movements
right in america anywhere in the fucking world right but especially in america right liberal
project and the whole liberal fucking thank you of the whole fucking liberal project and so the
fact that that that that he's saying that it's
violent for them to you know you know how those windows and shit all right man i didn't watch all
those videos but i can guarantee you know how those windows got fucking smashed first of all
by those black shirts right and by the fucking cops dude yeah you know what i mean trying to
fucking take it back well also i mean he's he's talking about this relationship to to peaceful
protest and the rule of law but like there's never been a continuum of
respect for peaceful protest and the rule of law i mean look at selma look at you know any number of
peaceful demonstrations that ended up in water cannons and and dogs being sicked on people in
the civil rights movement yeah and then to fast forward today uh cops fucking billy clubbing
19 year olds with signs you know what i mean it's like there's like the
relationship is completely asymmetrical and like to act otherwise is just you know willful ignorance
at best it always has been that what you know martin king got shot fucking memphis on fucking
hotel balcony like you know what i mean like fuck out of here with like no we respect no you don't
you fucking crack down on the slightest hint of dissent you know what i mean like fuck out here with like no we respect no you don't you fucking crack down on
the slightest hint of dissent you know what i mean i mean yesterday oh go ahead no no i know i just
wanted to say yo it's like it's like this idea that that the people that are protesting want to
commit violence right you know i'm not saying that there aren't elements right of any movement
right of militants right and people that are willing to do those things right and i think
it's necessary right but at the same time you think the majority of people that are that are
uh uh participating these protests want to go out there and fucking like and be anti-semitic and
like you know and commit hate crimes and shit like that man yeah it's fucking insane dude well that's
the that's that's the thing it was the juxtaposition i've just found myself in a weird place yesterday
it was the juxtaposition because i was i went myself in a weird place yesterday. It was the juxtaposition because I went and I stood next to the wall of cameras.
Again, that I've never seen at a protest before.
I've never seen that in my life.
I've seen a few cameras here and there, but I've never seen a fucking...
It's just like a blob, a blob of lenses and shit like that.
Like an amorphous mass of lenses.
They were kind of preparing for
this like this was gonna be the super bowl of protest you know what i mean and it was a good
turnout i'm not like saying anything about the event but it was not like it was not like you
know it was not fucking uh blm 2.0 you know what i mean or anything like that like that magnitude
no it was it was it wasn't even an encampment
it was just literally like a protest on campus led by i mean there's like a lot of leaders in
the muslim community there like if anything it was i i mean i hesitate to say this because what
words even mean anymore but if anything it was predominantly liberal you know what i'm saying just in the sense that like the uh sort of like liberal
muslim contingent was there um but not like i went and i stood by the cameras and i was like
trying to see what they were seeing through the lens as it was projected back onto the average Kentuckian's TV screen.
And it's like, if this is the Third Reich
like you are trying to portray it to be,
what you see is a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multi-racial,
young and old,
like the ones we were at intergenerational.
People
aren't marching in
lockstep. No one is saying
any kind of hateful... Me and Tom are just sitting
there getting sunburned and fucking
cutting up jokes with each other.
You know what I mean?
Meanwhile, the counter-protest was
four dudes that
looked like they were in a Christian motorcycle club.
And a handful of frat boys that were standing over with them by the bushes.
I loved watching that because you could tell the four motorcycle protesters.
It looked like the Bellamy brothers over there in the bush is what
it was they were eyeing each other like the four counter protesters and then like the four frat
boys they were eyeing each other like should we join forces yo i don't even do it this is the
fucking thing dude is that yo uh whether it's uh these pro-israeli counter
protesters or whether it's just these frat boys who've been deputized i mean they're pro-israeli
counter protesters too but i don't want to call them pro counter protesters they're fucking goons
right they're fucking thugs right but like like if you if you if you look at the pro i don't even
say pro-palestinian these are just these are just
anti-war protests right i think you should put it in there of course they're pro-palestinian but
they're anti-war right to put in that context too that's that liberals look at that and to them
you would think that they would say that that's emblematic of america right multicultural young
interfaith and all of that right why is it every time you look at the pro
israeli shit it's all fucking white people it's all older white people or like again these ss
youth looking motherfuckers right like it's just like like the the dichotomy and the fact that
these this multicultural multiracial interfaith like contingent you know what i'm saying of old
and young they're being called
like thugs and goons and black shirts right but the guys that are actually waving israeli flags
you know what i'm saying he's hyper nationalist you know all fucking white people dude and if
there's like and if there's like a woman there like she's probably chained or some shit like
that you know what i'm saying like it's just this is not i mean i don't know man it just like to the fact that you could look at that and say that
that's a model a paragon of like progressivism or where america should be at it's just fucking
insane to me dog yeah i like i was talking to my brother last night my brother's like
a very apolitical person like in fact like a lot of times he gets really annoyed by like woke stuff he's not like um like a bigot or anything it's like see he just sees it as like cringe
and that kind of you know what i mean like he sounds like a dude like he's just a dude
just a right yeah just a right i don't play these dudes like that all right doesn't listen to the
show or anything like that but i was talking to him and he was just like because i was like you
know i just got back from this protest and he was like um you know were you uh protesting our
country's policies in the middle east or something like that he was just kind of being facetious and
i was like yeah um you know blah blah blah and he was like yeah he's like honestly man from my
point of view just outside looking in just like totally like knowing nothing about this he was like i'm genuinely kind
of shocked at the scale and amount of protests and the corresponding inaction of the u.s government
he was in the sense that like he was like generally like when you see that level of like protest
there's some sort of even empty gestures but yes, yeah, I think that was the thing.
But then you look at Biden's statements today,
and it's very obvious.
Again, it's like trying to understand how much of this is intentional,
how much violence they do want
versus how savvy and Machiavellian
they think they're being.
But when Biden comes out and says these things,
it literally feeds into the atmosphere that would lead 200 paris you know stormtroopers to climb a
little erector set ladder like you know kicking through a window like we gotta get these guys
out of here you're seven grenades in an ar-15 go hog wild brother just flaking
yo can i can i say to that i do think that this is like like this reminds me of 2020
when you could tell that the cops were just itching to fuck people up you know what i mean
like i'll never forget before the curfew yesterday it felt like that yesterday like
tension they're twirling their batons and shit like that and tapping them against their thighs and shit like that like
they're ready to use them and this is a reason for them because they're like little fucking boys
with toys yo this is a reason for them to go out and use all that equipment and fuck people up
again you know what i'm saying yeah you don't need any advanced degrees to say that people that uh
pull something out called a mobile command center trying to get back their GI Joe youth, you know?
Dude, this is, the UK yesterday was handing out these cards.
I grabbed one.
It says, as a public university, we must uphold free speech rights
no matter the perspective while ensuring safety.
If you have a safety concern, please speak to a UK PD officer on site.
It's like, okay.
Dude, dude, dude dude i just i just also
what i just also wanted this idea of safety there were like over 34 000 people dead in palestine
right like i mean i don't even know it might it might be they've been stuck on that number for
three months i know i know i keep saying that number but it's more than that they just quit
counting they keep saying yeah god's a health quit counting. Yeah, God's a health ministry. Is there even
a God's a health ministry as we once knew it?
Like, is there anybody to even count
that way they were?
Untold, but it's just this idea
that he keeps talking about
protests, right? And he'll never say what the protest
is about, but it's just, like,
I mean, the
the, I don't know, man,
the level of protest, how many it is, I mean, people are fucking don't know, man, the level of protest, how many it is.
I mean, people are fucking just horrified, yo, you know?
And the fact that you can hand that away, like hand wave that away and say, well, people have the right to protest, but then double down on law and order, you know?
When these kids are protesting against genocide, it's just, I don't know, man.
It's just, it's demonic, dude.
It's frankly demonic, yo.
You know, my brother is not representative
because he's still my brother and he knows what i do for a living and my political beliefs and
everything so it's still triangulated in some ways but i do think it is somewhat representative
in the sense that he was like yeah i mean it seems like there's kind of a lot of killing going on
the protesters want the killing to stop it seems pretty straightforward to me and i think a lot of americans probably see that you know what i mean like but like what stretches the fabric of
all of this is that you have you know when we talk about like ideological reproduction and like the
media and quote-unquote manufacturing consent like this goes all the way from the white house like
people i don't know just
the people being so incredulous like how could you blame biden for what's going on how could
you blame biden for like the police response and it's like well i mean it's uh first of all he is
the president he could do first of all the bug stops with him i mean but second of all theoretically
yeah yeah they shape how these ideological institutions both
campuses and the media reproduce this stuff and so like when you have that wall of cameras going
out there and like trying to you know command americans to like see this as the rising tide
of anti-semitism on campuses and it's just like again it's just like a protest with like me and
tom as beavis and butthead in the background and you know what i mean like just like a totally
innocuous thing where people are just trying to like voice their disagreement with the thing
but like looking increasingly worried over at the fucking uh cops yeah twirling their batons
in the corner it's like it's it just stretches people's um
i don't know it just stretches the bonds i guess it stretches like the sort of like
illusion of the facade of the suspension of disbelief like how much further okay if if this
is all to like especially uh during an election year if this is to sort of re-galvanize right this like i don't know this
american like chauvinism or whatever it is right um like i don't know man like how much longer
do you because you don't think that those people watching msnbc and shit have kids at college you
know right you know what i mean you don't think like they know young people you know and have
spoken to them even if they don't agree with them. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like, how much longer do are you going to like peddle that these are Hamas actual anti-semitism like when nazis are
fucking marching in fucking virginia or some shit like that you know what i mean it's almost like
it's a drop it just dissipates you know they're not covered at all they would genuinely send in
enough cops and maybe even the national guard eventually to literally manufacture to force
people to see them as hamas supporting anti-Semites like that is the whole
reason they send those troops and those cops it is it is quite literally to provoke a situation
where they can then point to it and say these are Hamas supporting anti-Semites but I don't know man
the whole thing is the the did y'all see that like CNN segment? Earlier, you were talking about how a lot of the people,
the pro-Israel people, are white.
There's a new book out.
You don't say.
Well, there's a new book out where they found a brother, man.
They found a brother to go out there and say that...
They found a black man?
They found a black man to say that black Americans
have turned their backs on Jews,
and that they're betraying the jews who marched with them in the civil rights movement i've said this before but when our turn comes i'll do something personally about these black
liberals and conservatives bro when i'm up but it's my time motherfucker shit yo i mean dude it's like i don't i mean again man i
i mean i spoke to my bob yesterday you know and um yeah what you said earlier terrence about this
starting to creep into people's homes right and then evening news my mom is in ethiopia right now
you know and she's watching this stuff you know what i mean and i don't know man like uh
i just think it's interesting because all right when i talk to people who are i feel like even
people that i talk to who are liberals at first maybe seven months ago it was kind of like you
know well hamas did and no you got to support biden but, it's almost like it's it's it's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad, isn't it? You know, so I don't know, man.
I don't know if that like translates to like him like that jeopardizing, like, you know, him winning the next election.
But I don't I have to imagine that like like it's not a good look for you to be sending cops.
Well, if he's doing creating the environment right where cops are sent on college campuses to beat the shit out of young people man a part of your base you know what i
mean yeah i mean hell of a strategy well that's just the thing it's like the new york times
headline after biden's thing is biden condemns campus violence and it's like if you just frame
it that way if you just say it that way it, again, it just repackages the whole thing and just says, yeah, the students are the ones.
It just bears repeating.
He is literally doing the Trump plenty of bad people or good people on both sides.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's, that's, okay, that's the thing.
Republicans like to say plenty of good people on both sides. Liberals like to say plenty of good people on both sides.
Liberals like to say plenty of bad people on both sides.
They love to.
They love to.
Which is functionally the same thing, yeah.
Those kids protesting, they're bad.
I guess, dude, I don't know.
Because the scenes from UCLA were really some of the most distressing ones.
Scenes from UCLA were really some of the most distressing ones.
This pro-Zionist crowd going out and tearing down the encampments.
Dragging around this fucking old lady, man.
Fucking... Yeah, absolute fucking barbarians, man.
That shit broke me, dude.
That shit fucking broke me, man.
I mean, this is the Dana Bash story onnn where they were talking to that guy and his
co-author they wrote a book called uncomfortable conversations with a jew they're doing like the
anti-racist thing except they got they got so hold up so hold up so we're having we're having
the national we're having the national conversation about race but okay all right whatever it's gonna be the robin d'angelo ibrahim x candy of the anti-semitism
these two right here okay they're gonna answer the bell huh the start of this fucking
segment killed me anti-semitism is nearly as old as time it is raging across the u.s you mean when you mean when you mean when
with dust and gases collided to create the universe you know what i mean and then human
beings who have a conception of the forward movement of time is that what you're talking
about yo bro i hate these go ahead. Prior to multicellular life.
Antisemitism
swimming in the waters.
Also, let's just say
something, too, OK?
There was a
walk around a long time before Judaism,
Christianity or Islam.
Exactly.
Relax a little bit.
Exactly.
Just, yeah, life itself. Yeah yeah multicellular life like it's just by by doing this it's it's it goes back to that like gordon ghee statement
like by doing this it's almost like they dematerial-Semitism and make it like all encompassing cosmic force that like is like it's like dark matter in the universe.
It like it's out there is this cosmic.
It emanates and permeates through everything.
Right.
Except when there are actual anti-Semites and fucking neo-Nazis, they don't say anything about it.
I don't say shit about.
I would I would have more.
I would have more respect for that argument if they
actually called out and attacked like i mean dude there was i think somebody posted a picture of a
neo-nazi that was working with pro-israeli groups right to fucking clear out encampments you know
well it makes total sense because as we've made many people have pointed out,
the Nazis were all about putting them somewhere away from everybody else.
It was like slavers in Liberia, dog.
Marcus Garvey was like, yo, go ahead, do that shit.
Get them all out of here.
Oh, man.
I just, I don't know.
It's just, it's increasingly, part of me thinks that, like,
this was a really dark week, and I've been trying to, like,
tease out why, like, trying to, like, pull out the threads of why.
And part of me does think that, like, I think on the left,
it's starting to, it's just, it's sinking in.
It was kind of like an interesting conceptual argument or observation in
November,
but it is not,
the reality of it is now sinking in that there is no liberal net that can
catch us if all of these civil rights are basically done away with you know what i'm
saying like generally generally like as the party of reaction the conservatives have always wanted
to put real back civil rights because that's you know that's what they did after 9-11 and the the
liberals have always been the ones to like you know you know, at least rhetorically say, like, well, we have, you know, at the very least, civil liberties.
But it is now, I guess it's the thing is it took 23 years, but it took 23 years for the liberals to say, like, okay, now we are with you.
Civil liberties mean nothing.
And, you know, and I'm not, you know, I shouldn't be exceptional about this like this is a country that once had segregation uh basically forms of apartheid did not have universal suffrage like this has never been
an equitable place but they at least convinced enough people for a long enough time that like
that's what they stood for and and it seemed that way well no man he stands for what i found funny in that video he's
like talking about the rights right people have the right to go to class right people have the
right to an education right those if those things were true right then you would campaign on making
colleges and public universities tuition free right you know what i mean if you believe if you
actually believe in any of those things then you would secure those rights for people right obviously what you care about you care more
about zionism you don't even care about winning an election dog you care more about zionism beating
shit out of kids who are fucking like incensed by a genocide than anything else you know like
i want people to think about that that this i don't know i don't know if it'll lose i'm not
sure it seems i don't know this just this seems really that this, I don't know. I don't know if it will lose. I'm not sure. It seems, I don't know. This just, this seems really fucking bad, but I don't know.
It might galvanize a lot of people who love law and order, right?
But I don't know, man.
I forgot what I was going to say, man.
My bad.
That is true.
Man, I'm mad as hell.
I'm so fucking mad.
I just burned myself out, man.
Go ahead, Terrence.
What were you going to say?
No, I guess that's the thing.
I just burned myself out, man.
Go ahead, Terrence.
What were you going to say?
No, I guess that's the thing.
It's like they've positioned two poles.
And on one is law and order, and on the other is anti-Semitic protesters.
Exactly.
And that term is so charged.
But, like, the thing is, and, you know, being back on a campus yesterday and protesting this thing that, like, I was on campus protesting 15 years ago.
The crowds parted and Terrence walked in with his boxing gloves on and they said, he's prodigal son's back.
It's Olly Lack returned to the ring.
There were kids going, they said, man, I heard what you did during the Bush era at UT Austin, man.
You're a legend around here
ask you for your autograph i was like damn bro i didn't know it was like uh
that's the thing the thing that got me through those years and is getting me through now
is there are millions and millions and millions of people out there yeah that's true most of them
in the middle east and in palestine specifically who who think Zionism is a great evil and stain upon humanity and who see it for the horror show that it is and who still maintain that there is nothing inherently like violent, racist, inhuman, subhuman about Jewish people who are not anti-Semitic.
You know what I'm saying?
And those are the people you're with.
Those are the people who you're aligned with.
There's a vast sea of them out there.
A lot of them aren't in America, but a large, a growing number of them are.
Well, the good news is that at least one of them used to be the president, Donald Trump, who prays for a lot of...
Awaken the people?
Awaken the people to the evil of Israel.
I don't know, man.
It's a truly horrific spectacle to behold,
and I don't know i if if if the united states government does manage to basically in all public spaces outlaw any mention of intifada or from the river to the sea as like forms of anti-semitism well i mean obviously
this this entire project this show yes we're going on the draft we're if it's we're we are
we are drafted it's just it's just i wonder if you could that maybe they won't retroactively do
it everything going we'll
have to do this show like this from now on we'll just have to dance around and come up with our
own dog whistles and code words you know you know what i was thinking too man i was thinking of that
like you know like how how much longer before they start like banning they start calling for
bans of the palest the Palestinian flag or wearing of
keffiyehs and stuff like that.
It's just like stamping out any sort of solidarity with the Palestinian people and Palestinian
people themselves, you know what I mean?
And the way of life and culture and all these things.
And then just replacing them with charges of antisemitism, you know?
I don't know.
That's just frightening, man.
It's frightening that, you know, that Zionists, like, reaffirm, I guess, their identity by
destroying someone else, you know?
And the whole entire people, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, just how stable then is your ideology, right?
If it's predicated upon wiping someone else out you know yeah and
replacing them i mean and we're even seeing this dude i mean again we're seeing this reproduced
here where i should have sent you the video uh i should send you guys the video but i saw
the nypd i think after columbia after they had raided it and tore everything down they pulled
down a palestinian flag from a flagpole and put up an
american flag you know yeah you know and it's just like i don't know man that is that is just
by what biden said something once said palestinian once you know in that whole speech he had given
islamophobia one fucking time i don't even know if he said palestinian he probably did he may
have said it once but he said anti-palestinian and Islamophobia when he was saying, because of course they
have to condemn hate on both sides, right?
Well, he said Palestinian Americans.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like he was quick to point out.
It's like, actually, the people that have come here and assimilated, but those people
over there, you know, like no mention of that.
You know what it is.
The people who can vote for me, basically.
You know what it is?
you know like no mention of that you know the people who can vote for me basically you know what it is you know how like how with zionists like every accusation is a confession pretty much
like pretty much everything they say this is also true with liberals and democrats and i'm starting
to realize that like their pivot to law and order right is the way they encircle the trump thing so then by saying that like you will have fascism
like you will have they're gonna trump is gonna lead everybody off to the camps and how dare you
why would you vote for trump and fascism they are going to just prove that they can do fascism
and that it is and that they can even do it more efficiently than Trump. And I think that... You know, like, mom, we got fascism at home.
You know what I mean?
Yes, exactly.
Well, it's the logical conclusion of, like, Clintonism in a lot of ways.
That is so true.
Like, when Clinton comes on the scene and says,
I'm not one of these squishy Democrats of yesteryear.
I'm not George McGovern.
I'm not whoever.
Like, we stand for law and order.
And they did that in their policy.
They did three strikes.
They did all that kind of stuff.
Welfare reform. This is sort of the logical end point of clintonism i mean it's telling too
that you get four emails a day saying i here we'll fly you out to meet you meet three presidents in
one brock obama bill clinton and joe biden meet three war criminals yeah i ain't even got jimmy on there anymore well jimmy's in hospice i guess
he's on his way out anyway it's it's like the living mount rushmore it's like the living
mount rushmore of like liberal scions like of like liberal values and truly what's left of
yeah the promise of camelot
man it is wild and i think like i think i saw will
point this out on twitter but like it is astonishing how it is now it is legal to
criticize right now so far anyways this will probably change too in about six or seven months
it is legal to criticize the american government but it is now not legal to criticize
the israeli government dog when you're when you're at that level it is really astonishing
and really a testament to how like disciplined and how um humane the left is and americans in
general are that there aren't more anti-semites like if you have a situation where like you can't
even criticize the israeli government yeah yeah yeah and people and people would take that yeah that there aren't more anti-semites like if you have a situation where like you can't even
criticize the israeli government yeah yeah yeah and people and people would take that yeah well
but also that's that is the that is the pernicious nature of that too and it's the pernicious nature
of the whole israeli project is is now all the guys that have been you know spreading the
protocols of the elders of zion type conspiracies about the influence of foreign governments.
They look like they're smelling like roses.
You know what I mean?
Like, see, told you.
You know what I mean?
And so now you're going to have people drift into those kind of beliefs
and ideas and stuff.
And I mean, I hope that's not the case.
I'm not like trying to say no, but it's like,
but it's almost like Israel needs that to run off of.
Like that's the lifeblood of the project.
A hundred percent.
I mean, a hundred percent.
The more wild things people say, the more they can point to and say, see, this is why we have to exist.
It is wild, man.
It's like I don't know how to explain this, and I have not found a way to articulate it yet, but I felt it yesterday.
It's like the sort of like mystical, like the sort of mystified form inside the sort of like
rational shell or whatever it's like you can almost hold it in your hands like you have this
thing and you were told that it is like anti-semitic to like say these things but if you just twist it
another way and like i said earlier you you make that leap to uh traveling that distance
to seeing that like actually this is not it's this inside it's turning the inside out skin suit
inside out or outside it's like reversing that that process it really does show you it what i'm
saying here is it would it would force you to question
everything you know about not only the current american project not only the near past of the
american project but the entire fucking thing from day fucking one like you know what i'm saying
like contained within that contained within our whole support of israel contained within the
entire like media apparatus and like law and order uh edifice that is erected to enforce everybody to
go along with it once you see it from a different angle you then see that it implodes all of the
myths and things about our society it's almost like we've displaced our uh i don't know and this is why like
settler colonialism is i don't think it's something that you can just like wave away and say like oh
this is just cringe woke is and whatever because like it's almost like we've displaced all of our
like neuroses anxieties guilt and shame and everything for the fucking u.s settler project
on to israel and that's why that's sort of why we're backstopping it in this almost like sort of subconscious subliminal way like yeah it has to be maintained if it doesn't
oh fuck we're gonna have if it doesn't then we're fucked you know what i mean exactly
identity crisis like you you know what you know what too i think this visually um i'm just stuck
on i'm just stuck on the flag as a symbolism right because uh uh eric adams right this motherfucker this is another
motherfucker i need to go um but this dude was like oh uh um it's it's insane right that uh that
a flag from another country right is flying in our country dude and then of course people replied
with scores of pictures of him waving as a brother waving waving israeli flags and shit like that you know what i
mean the turkish flag yeah the turkish flag every flag on the plane every flag except the palestinian
the mayor is a flags guy it's a funny funny stance for a flags guy he is a flags guy yeah
oh man it's i i um i don't know it is it is a really crazy thing and it's it's really wild to
see like and i pointed this out on twitter but i really think that like the dims took a lot of
lessons from 2020 and they um they basically this was our week me and I remember me and Tom, we had like a year zero episode at the end of 2020 that like you could track in a three part act or like a three act play, like the entire trajectory of that year.
And, you know, came away with like the realization that like the Dems came out basically on top.
They beat the Bernie movement in the balance and they beat the Black Lives Matter movement in the streets.
And what's so crazy to me is to look back at that moment
and they were like, Biden's just a placeholder.
But they never said what came next.
They never even hinted at it.
They were just like, oh, trust us.
He's a placeholder.
We have a plan.
We have a plan.
It's a grand plan.
We'll tell you about it as soon as the election's over
exactly well don't y'all think that like how can i say this don't y'all think that all right
they don't have any hitters on the benches right they have no shooters on the benches right
so it's like in the absence of even a figurehead you know what i mean i mean i guess biden is the one that
embodies that long order but it feels like like i don't even know what i'm trying to say i'm trying
to articulate the fact that it feels like that this entire ideological project doesn't even need
a charismatic figure like obama right it doesn't need someone like that anymore right you can put in this
decrepit like you know this decrepit guy who i guess you know i mean who is more palatable to
them than someone like trump even though there's hardly any daylight between them you know right
you know what i mean i don't know if that makes sense but it's like i can't even think of who
they have because it's not it's not definitely i mean fuck her but it's definitely not aoc it's
definitely not younger progressives they might try to make that happen though i mean they might
they might try i think they do have some shooters for example like fucking andy brashear like they
or like gretchen whitmer or like the thing about gretchen whitmer is a good one actually the thing
about democratic candidates is like you can pretty much slot them in and make them be whatever you want them to be like put all your
hopes and dreams in them and they fucking disappoint you exactly we've seen the fucking
routine from day one um but you are spot on in the sense that they don't even need that anymore
they don't need that dynamic that structural dynamic because if their whole thing is just law and order, they're
going to use anti-Semitism as a pretense
for introducing the
law and order dynamic into democratic
politics. And you're exactly right, Tom.
It's the logical extension
of Clintonism. This is like
when they were expanding mass
incarceration and kicking everybody off
welfare reform and creating these massive
surplus populations and cracking down on crime, guys were doing that clinton and joe biden it's just
like like and granted like everybody fucking pointed that out in 2020 but like things were so
dire and crazy in 2020 global pandemic trump etc like They could convince enough people, like, oh, here's a placeholder,
without having to say what comes next.
But it's obvious now that what comes next
is basically Trumpism as Biden.
The boot on your neck is what comes next.
Well, that's an American tradition,
just absorbing the enemy
and then just becoming that.
We did it with Nazism after the Second World War.
You know what
i mean and it's and then we just put a nicer veneer on it but that's just the way it goes i
mean and to the point about clintonism too it's like i feel like there was such as like interference
ran by like the robustness of the economy and like the emergence of like culture during the
clinton era like the 90s were just like everybody remembers the 90s fondly like if you're of my generation you know what i mean whether warranted or not and like all that ran
interference for like you know the the disassembling of the welfare state like moving entitlements to
block grants uh you know again three strikes things we're talking about like the you know the
transfer of you know the the beefing up with the carceral
state the military apparatus all these things and we just didn't really feel it as much because
you know things were you know for a lot of people were you know i don't want to say all people but
for a lot of people were humming along fine yeah there's a buff now we see it now that we're in
leaner times we see it more acutely you know what i mean like we see like it that we're in leaner times, we see it more acutely. You know what I mean? Like we see like,
it's like after all of that artifice is wiped away,
we see like just the bare bones of the Clinton project.
And it's like here in our face and it's like,
oh yeah,
well this is not meaningfully different from Trumpism.
It's true.
It's so,
it's true.
It's like they,
they know that the economy is,
obviously it's not doing as good as it was in the 90s.
I mean, the U.S. economy is growing at, like, single digit, like, low single digits these days, right?
Like, you get, like, 1.6% growth per quarter now or something.
Something that, like, you would have seen from China in, like, the 70s.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right, right.
And it's...
Yeah, after the cultural right right it's just
it's not to say that like america is like um like losing economic hegemony per se just that like
things are you're right it's leaner times and they try we've pointed this out for a long time they
tried to basically convince everybody it's fascinating how I no longer see anybody say this at all.
But remember, for a few months there,
they were basically saying the economy's doing great.
Everything's great.
They've stopped saying that.
They've stopped saying it.
And the reason why is because they've switched to law and order.
Well, in fact, I mean,
when Joe Biden's delivering these sort of esoteric remarks that just like pop up on a Thursday afternoon for 10 minutes, most of them before campus anti-Semitism were geared at like encouraging people you can invest in America.
Like, I know what you're doing.
You're basically doing a phone drive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're trying to gin things up before the election so you can point to, you know, see what we're doing here?
It's like, no, what you've done is you're shaking the bushes in the months up to the election to to pad
your stats you know it makes it's it's interesting link in 2021 after january 6th i remember there
was this very palpable fear that because the biden administration was talking about it they
were talking about uh in cracking down on the j the january 6th uh protesters
rioters whatever you want to fucking call them um that they were going to target like antifa with
equal fervor and force i don't know if that ever actually happened i'm sure it did um but i do
think that part of their whole thing of consolidating their position, part of sort of undermining Trump's whole thing while keeping the left at bay is using this moral panic about anti-Semitism.
And the thing about moral panics, I mean, I've studied them.
I mean, I've, you know.
Listen, I've spearheaded a number of
them i've led a couple myself yeah i've led a few moral panics in my time yeah they create like a
social vacuum that you can like basically deputize like free core type people into going after their
neighbors like moral panics like you know, we've seen them in this country.
Like, you saw them after 9-11.
They create very paranoid environments.
And it is not, I just, you know,
not a good thing that the specter of anti-Semitism
is the thing that they are coalescing around
because we know for a fact that's not actually,
they don't give a shit about anti-Semitism.
Like they will let neo-Nazis march in Charleston with police escorts,
but the minute you call out Israel's genocide,
then yeah, you've got a billy club coming down on you.
So it's, i don't know
i just putting a finer point on this whole progression of the democrats to basically
assume the trump position because you saw a lot of people on twitter saying like this is the
alternative to trump and it's like yeah yeah it is because you know how you know how far gone this is, man? And after Kent State, Nixon, who also fomented and created the atmosphere for those students
to be shot, but even Nixon, and you could say for whatever duplicitous reasons, right?
I'm not entirely convinced that he actually felt bad but he did release a statement
right that said that um you know it was disproportionate right the uh the violence
right these students being shot and i think even in i forget what other school that it was um i
forget what other school that it was that black students were also shot um sorry the name of the school slipping me but i can't even imagine god forbid you know had someone been killed by the police on any of
these college encampments i i literally cannot imagine biden coming out and saying something
as unequivocal as that you know they were talking about we're talking about he would talk about
fucking nixon dude you know what i mean yeah you know
like a rabid anti-communist racist you know what i mean people people have to see like parallels
in history like they have to i mean marx was a huge fan of doing this uh and i do a historical
parallel yeah but it's also at the same time you have to look at it dialectically like it is entirely possible that like biden becomes both trump and reagan and reagan and nixon you know what i'm
saying yeah yeah we have the synthesis thesis synthesis you can run these like very vacuous
like identity politics at the same time that you're running the law and order platform
like the silent majority platform that's fucking crazy dude think about that for a second they're
basically trying to run the silent majority nixon law and order platform while at the same time
saying that obama era obama ever like like Obama era, like like social sensibilities.
It's crazy, dude.
It's like 2000s, like multicultural cosmopolitan sensibilities.
But it's Nixon, though.
A better seed, like a better like soil bed for actual fascist politics, because what you do then is you basically take all of
the meaning out of any kind of like multiculturalism or what you would call like woke politics any any
kind of like gesture or semblance towards equity and equality you've basically said that it is
meaningless and in fact the only one that matters is anti-semitism yeah nothing else matters uh
racism against black and that's only because of empire and that's only because of empire
because of empire yo yo like i'm thinking like like like yeah let's be clear about that you know
it ain't got nothing to do with just some deep abiding love of the jewish people
it's weird it's like the unraveling of the empire and like America's hegemonic position is unraveling around this very specific question every time?
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, it's like I've said before, man.
It's just, it's like, you know, I think that, well, not Americans themselves, like, you know, constituents, but, you know, like, I don't know, the architects of empire, right?
And then a business, right?
you know like i don't know the architects of empire right in a business right like i think they see israel as like like a like a brother a sibling you know what i mean you know what i mean
and in in order to indict israel would indict the united states you know and all of those things
whether it's settler colonialism or racism or police brutality or hell if we've been talking
about climate change you know what i mean or if we're talking about how how environmental factors like that are the most affecting the most
marginalized and most vulnerable communities you know like it's all wrapped up in this and yeah
man i think that the the the third line is really empire man you know and sort of like being able to control this narrative you know yeah but i don't
know it's it's it scares me because like you got two things that are one is very promising which
is the fact that like i said earlier you've got all these things swimming around in the ether and
it's astonishing that more americans aren't actual frothing at the mouth anti-semites
it's actually a very good thing yeah it is i thought
americans were like honestly i thought they were pretty fucking stupid but apparently well
at the same time they are really fucking stupid though americans are really fucking stupid i was
telling tom the other day did you know that in the uh jim crow south i mean obviously there was
lynchings during segregation in america there was not lynchings in south africa apartheid
like that's this weird it's this weird thing where like the competitive nature of
american like fascist populism like created like terrorism and that's what when i said a second
ago like i've never seen like a better like seed bed for actual fascism i don't mean to say that
biden's not doing actual fascism i'm trying i'm saying they're trying to do like a better like seed bed for actual fascism i don't mean to say that biden's not doing actual
fascism i'm trying i'm saying they're trying to do like a top-down fascism with the police
when i mean actual fascism i mean like a kind of like more populist like kkk type like you know
what i mean like you've got like shop owners and you know they'd be like middle class people going
out and being like yeah like let's do crystal knock 2.0 uh and like i'm saying that
that has a precedence in america we are a society that really can't get out of the mid-century if
you think about it i mean like even our hegemony is tied up in our like sort of monopoly on
manufacturing post-world war ii our political ideologies have just been absorbed from the remnants of nazism and then now we're
cynically using the victims of nazis to like basically have our way in this region that we
have terrorized for decades and decades over oil and other resources and it's like it's just like
america just decided who we were going to be in the late 40s and we just haven't swayed from that
you know i mean it's taken on different iterations.
It's like the technologies and times have changed and whatever,
but basically you can drill it back down to that.
Even the right wing's obsession with going back to this imagined time
means basically going back to that time period.
All politics of the last 10 years have basically been about going back to that time period you know all politics of the last 10 years have basically
been about going back to even the bernie thing was about rick returning to like 1950s like
yeah yeah yeah some post fdr or fdr style yeah but like you know it's just i mean i don't know
man i know we've said this in so many different ways, but like, I just want to know the utility of like, like anchoring yourself to this, like this, this like collapsing or throbbing calculus you know as to why biden can't come i mean not even
come out publicly and say something it's not about what he says but i don't know man it seemed like i
said it seems like you would rather he's more wedded to zionism than winning the presidency
right or being or his legacy even right or even i don't know i don't know no i well i think it just goes back to like what we
were saying a second ago like i am now convinced that they are their strategy is trying to basically
absorb trumpism and make it a form of bidenism because they have no better alternative right
in an actual like functioning democracy that wasn wasn't decaying around us in every single way, they would offer some sort of alternative vision and path forward.
But because that's not on the table, because things are decaying rapidly, they're just going to try to absorb the actual content and substance of Trumpism. and they're going to make it palatable
right that's what i mean that's why it's an insane proposition they are basically trying to
do the nixon trump law and order thing but like make it woke yeah yeah make it in the service
make it in the make it make it in the service of all of these social, you know, all the shit that they hold, that they claim that they hold dear.
You know, multiculturalism, right?
Yeah.
Interfaith relations, right?
The fact that, like, yeah, man, like, I don't know.
Again, it's just alarming because what you see is that this has a negative impact on black and brown, I mean, Jewish people, but black and brown people as well.
You know, I mean, at the protest, like it's just insane to me that there are a bunch of white people.
Right. Calling like black and brown people anti-Semitic.
Right. Calling young people anti-Semitic. Right.
And then telling them that they're privileged. Right.
Or maybe not choosing to vote for a genocider you know
like again loss of meaning man yeah i mean well and if it's like tom was just saying like
it's like they just stuck out that uh position staked out that position in the late 40s
of like the anti-communist position but when there's no communism left to
40s of like the anti-communist position but when there's no communism left to fight they have to crack down on yeah on campus liberals it loses yeah that's the closest thing i ever but you know
what's funny because those it seems like like uh like uh their charge of anti-communism and you
know now this charge of anti-semitism like i don't know i
just feel like the groups like the two groups right there's an overlap you know what i mean
like i mean it's always people it's always people that are struggling and organizing right for a
better world you know what i mean but you you can't look at that and think that that's noble
right like far from it like you said terence you have to look at these people as like they're
trying to initiate the third the fourth reich you know what i mean that's that was the juxtaposition
yesterday and i know i've come across it many times but it was weird to put myself in the shoes
of the person seeing what the cameras were saying in the sense that like you have a chant stop
bombing hospitals and you are instructed to see that as the revival of hitlerism
and does it work does it not i don't think it works necessarily i also think it's very
concerning though because it will work that's irrelevant because they're not going to change
their position exactly it's irrelevant because they're not going to change their position
because what they're doing is they're using it as pretense for law and order crackdown so it
doesn't matter the content as long as you can make such a insanely sensationalist claim as that
if you can make an insanely sensationalist claim as that because that is a bold thing to say it
scares people enough to then sit back and say like okay well i guess if that's hitlerism if it's
hitlerism to disagree with killing children and bombing hospitals, then I'm going to chill because that is a bold thing.
That is that is a raw exercise of power.
And that's what I say.
Like the Democrats are taking that position of like law and order power because they have nothing left.
Essentially, like we've known this for a for a long time.
But like, i don't know
it's just it's i just um i don't know i would caution people not to go too alarmist and crazy
just yet because who the fuck knows how this shakes out uh but at the same time like you know
it's they're not fucking around i mean what, what we saw, I could feel it yesterday.
I could feel it.
We're just waiting for something.
I mean, what we saw over the weekend, man.
And, you know, that that just I don't know.
It just it just makes me think that I'm thinking of this tweet from this fucking moron, man.
And this was getting passed around a lot.
And the picture, the original post uh a picture of uh officers sitting on
top of like an elderly person right um i don't know if it was a professor but someone who had
been at um one of these uh encampments or one of these protests and this fucking moron says
this is what could happen under trump if you don't vote for biden and it's like who the fuck is the president right now man i mean these people are
so far gone that or like somebody said to me well are you white right because you don't want to vote
you and i'm just like dude they're so far gone that like i mean now it's yes now it's in the
defense of in the defense of black and brown people we have to vote for the guy who's giving
cops more money to kill black people and giving israel more weapons to bomb brown people right
yeah it's in the service of it's in the service of of uh identity and like liberal id paul right
or liberal racialism i guess you know i'll tell i'll go ahead and tell you, this is like somebody left on their AIM message one time. They said that, what was it?
I saw somebody say one time, they said, bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity.
That's a classic.
I love that.
That's what America is.
I said that one a lot in 2005.
Did you?
That was a Bush era, like, AIM away mess.
Like those old people around the CNN Trump trial,
that was me before the Bush memes in 2005.
Yeah.
But like what you were just saying,
what you were just saying though, Aaron, is true.
And if you look at like how welfare reform
was actually introduced, they did it like oh this
is in the interest of black communities we have to make them yes being dependent with the crime
bill and they're good and now they've just taken they've taken that structural approach that
structural policy and they've combined it with the carceral thing and just like said all right
we'll see you in the streets we will fucking kill you it'll be in your interest it'll be in your interest as black
americans it'll be in your interest as latino americans i mean they're actually doing that
you see james carville opening up his old cocksucker a few days ago he was like just
scolding young people for not wanting to come vote for biden so you motherfucker i'll kick you
out in a fucking creek somewhere and leave out of a pontoon
boat he's like you don't know what's at stake well you couldn't think too much was at stake
because you married one of their top fucking shooters it's uh it's not it's not uh it's not
it's not yeah yeah i guess i don't want people to be alarmist either but just the weekend just uh
that horrified me, man.
I think, you know, I guess this last thing I'll say, I think, too, just these black shirts being deputized while the cops just stood by, you know.
It was just such a repeat of 2020.
The boat shoes being deputized.
Yeah, with the boat shoes being deputized.
It just reminds me just of 2020, man, you know.
You had all these Proud boys and shit like that fucking people
up and i mean i even saw this shit in atlanta man like uh during the stop the count uh uh rallies or
whatever at city hall down here where the cops had cordoned off all of the uh counter protesters
which i guess would be like you know like liberals the left whatever they cordoned us off but they
gave these trump motherfuckers the free street and we're talking to this nick fuentes motherfucker you know so it's just like it's not even just
law and order but it's it's vigilante justice he's creating the environment for that you know
it was like that yesterday like i turned around and like three frat guys were chatting up a cop
and i was just like what are they talking about yeah what do you talk to what do you have to say
did you see did you see that like tom cotton thing where he was like these universities are
disgusting cesspools of anti-semitism and i was just looking i was just looking at that um
that book about uh how anti-semitism goes back to the beginning of time and dude her her interview was crazy she was
literally reproducing anti-semitic tropes against the people she sang her anti-semites like pro
palestinians she was like anti-semitism is a shape-shifting conspiracy it's like holy shit
like what is it elders of zion or something like that it's the same thing of like the Israel
they're almost like a
crypto reptilian race
I don't know where that came from
it's getting dark out there
man it is getting dark and there
is no liberal I just need to
stress this to people there is no
liberal safety net to
protect anyone their civil liberties, anything like that.
You've got to look out for each other because there is.
Look, I said this months back, man. I said this months back.
Like, I remember this when, you know, when the bombing had started, the bombing of hospitals, the mass slaughter, the starvation, you know, with in our name, with our money, you know.
slaughter the starvation you know with uh in our name with our money you know and you know it was like if they do that shit to palestinians what makes you think they wouldn't do it to you right
and now that we're seeing these protests that's exactly what the fuck that violence right you
know what i mean i you know if if i'm not even gonna go there man but i swear i swear to god
like they're already using rubber bullets against students.
I saw photos of students getting shot in the face.
So it's just, you're just reproducing, I guess, the tactics that a lot of these motherfuckers learned when they trained with the IDF.
And they're just bringing the war home.
It's like we said last week, they are the ones bringing the war home.
They're bringing the war home they're bringing the war
home man so i'm just you know if if anyone still is on the fence about a really a really weird
thing by the way it's like those a lot of those weather underground not a lot of them i mean i
will say that like someone pointed out that the weather underground is kind of responsible um
actually for um like they did so many prison breaks in the 70s that the
weather underground is kind of responsible for um i think more lax i'm gonna fuck this up it
had something to do with like for like what what moat surrounded prisons or some shit with
crocodiles or something like that they they had something to do with like sentencing reform just
because they did so many prison breaks
in the 70s but like a lot of those like a lot of those um people also wound up to be the architects
of the current neoliberal hell so it's like they are still bringing the war home but now they're
using the cops to do it against the protesters and uh i don't know man just fucking echoes across time what can you say
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who knows how long this motherfucker is gonna last no i mean if it's freedom of speech
this is all speech man i think i've seen the same black man drive past my house twice like you know
it's already it's only noon man yeah we got we got uh three guys jogging and a guy sitting on a park bench
reading a newspaper around this motherfucker.
Better yet, they install
a park bench across the street from my house
where there was not a park bench.
And now there's a guy just sitting in a residential neighborhood
that just makes no sense.
There's a guy sitting there
reading a newspaper with a top hat or something like that.
Putting infrastructure in that your community
desperately needs just to monitor you yeah
that's really funny instead of a police tower they just build like park benches so
so agents can sit on the front of every subversive known subversives house
they even put like up a newspaper kiosk.
You can read a new paper every day.
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