Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 71: Constitutional Hardballs
Episode Date: September 27, 2018In this one we examine how to lead a story-based life, how to have a story-based diet, and how to change the story of the world with more stories. Everything is a story, including how this episode was... made: with extremely low energy on Tarence's birthday. Music by Alex Dupree: https://alexdupree.bandcamp.com/album/you-winsome-you-lonesome Also please check out our Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty
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hop down bucko what's up leon
oh man oh man i got a question for you
i got a question for you first let's quit burying the lead how's it feel me
treyway 31 it feels pretty nice um Oh, sorry, Leon.
God, he's soaking wet.
He's leaking.
Soaking wet.
What are you doing?
Dude, every time we try to do this, it's like he doesn't come around all day until we start recording.
He's like, shit, I'm trying to get my shit out there.
You cannot do that. Me on the show.
Yeah. He's like, check out my'm trying to get my shit out there. You cannot do that. Me on the show. Yeah.
He's like, check out my SoundCloud.
It's my mixtape.
Oh, man.
When's the last time you got handed a mixtape on the street?
Like a physical copy.
When I lived in Austin, me and Derek used to buy them sometimes.
We'd go down to the video store, and there'd always guys sitting out front like hawking their mixtapes and we'd buy like a five dollar mixtape or whatever and take it home and
i mean there'd always be really bad but yeah i don't know i've not encountered anybody in
whiteburg selling a mixtape but you know it's mountain heritage right now if you went down
there right now you could probably i'm renouncing my Mountain Heritage right now.
It took me...
We literally live five minutes away, and to go get a newspaper and get here took me almost half an hour.
Yeah.
So you're not of and from these mountains anymore is what you're saying?
No, I'm...
When people ask me where I'm from, I'm just going to say...
The greater Cincinnati
area.
I understand
that. I understand.
That said, I am drinking a
Mountain Dew and eating a moon pie.
Non-ironically. Yeah, you walked in
and you said, I'd like to introduce a new segment called
Problematic Snacks.
Snack time. Say more about that, Tom.
You don't remember the
die and saw your
Mountain Dew Tooth special?
Yeah, I do.
From the...
I do.
From the what?
Early 90s or late 90s?
What was that?
That was probably 2000...
Was it the Bush...
Was it the Bush years?
The waning...
Maybe it was the waning years
of the Bush administration.
Whoo!
Yeah.
No, see,
Appalachia was not on my radar at that time really so yeah really say more about that what were your conceptions of the region
that's another thing I want to abolish is referring to it as the region uh my only
conception of it I'm I'm not exaggerating literally Literally my only perception of it
was a line in a Rage Against the Machine song
off of...
My kid's in Appalachia.
Yeah, I think it was on the Battle of Los Angeles.
It was like...
Like swollen stomachs!
In Appalachia!
In Appalachia!
In Appalachia!
Yeah, he said Appalachia.
And I was like, damn, dude dude we got poverty like that here man
that's some crazy shit
I'm there
I'm gonna go alleviate that shit
sign me up
I'm gonna go fight that poverty with passion
nah man
that was it though
that was really it
yeah man wow wow wow so um i saw the big festival
headliner this year is a guy that finished third place in 2010 on the american idol
really when's he playing saturday night it's a headliner baby
i swear to God
I was walking down there last night
And they had a Christian band playing
It was like
Jesus
You know like the
The kind of Christian music that's like
It's like really anthemic or whatever
I mean I guess all Christian music
Like Hillsong
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah
It was funny though Because there was like six people out there And they were like Praising or whatever. I mean, I guess all Christian music. Like Hillsong or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was funny, though,
because there was like six people out there and they were like...
Praising?
I don't know how you praise to that shit.
I don't know, man.
I do know, actually, because I've done it.
My point is,
if this guy that finished
fourth place on American Idol in 2010 can headline a festival,
there's no reason we can't take this show on the road.
Dude, I've got some.
There's some good Speak Your Pieces today.
This is a new sort of...
This is the first time I've actually on-air tried to sing a lot of single out the speaker pieces rather than doing it before the show.
I'll stall for more time if need be.
No, you know what?
I'll just give it to you and you can figure it out.
We'll chop it up a little bit before that.
What did you want to talk about on this day, your birthday, the day of our Lord?
Oh, dude, I got all kinds of things to talk about.
It just depends on how much time you got.
Right before you came in here, I was...
Right before you came in here, I was reading Burnout Bingo.
I was reading...
Did you see that thing I had on Twitter over the weekend about the Center for Story-Based Strategy?
They have this thing called Burnout Bingo and Resistance Bingo.
No.
Yes.
No.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on a second, let me tie off.
All right. yeah i'm sorry let me tie off all right more vascular in the forearms anyway so i'm ready to shoot that shit straight into these veins all right check it out so i was like i was um
i saw it and um they they have a book and it's got this really like convoluted graph that's all
about like framing your narrative analysis and
your narrative power so let me get this straight when we were um talking about narrative camp
there actually exists such a thing there more or less there literally exists a narrative camp
um you know and i i uh i went to their website and there's some actually decent stuff on it.
I mean, stuff that would, like, help you sort of maybe frame certain direct action things you're going to do
or, like, certain campaigns you're going to do.
But at the same time, dude, it is so hilariously on the nose.
No burnout bingo.
What does it say?
No burnout bingo.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on
hold up
no burnout bingo
does this refer to
organizers
and the burnout
that they talk about all the time
oh yeah baby
we're talking about organizer burnout
that's what it says no burnout bingo is a great way to keep yourself We're talking about organizer burnout.
That's what it says.
It says, no burnout bingo is a great way to keep yourself and your friends sustainably involved in building movements for collective liberation.
So let's see what you got here on the no burnout bingo.
And just yell out bingo if this hits you.
If this is something you're going to.
Oh, dude, one of these is so good.
You've got take a short walk. Ask a friend, what brings you joy lately?
Right.
Is take a long walk off a short cliff.
On there.
Is that the middle one?
That's the middle one, right.
Go to the gun store, buy one bullet and one gun.
Yeah, that's the middle space.
Tell the cashier, I'm a really good shot, I swear.
Write a new four-line story.
Change that narrative, baby.
Journal for 10 minutes.
Listen to my fave album song record.
I can get down with that one.
Worked in a new space.
This one's hilarious.
Find a conference to attend.
Why the fuck would you go to a conference if your bird's out?
Man, that's to get re-energized, baby.
It's like liberal organizing follows the same rules as capitalist production.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just like, you know, I saw this thing this week about Bezos, you know, starting the schools
and like the kids are going to be the customer and all that kind of stuff.
I didn't see this.
People that have seen Sorry to Bother You, I guess, said that it's like like the little um corporation that's
sort of at the center of that movie which i'm talking about out of my ass because i've not seen
it uh but uh like that's what like liberal organizing kind of like feels like a little
bit to me like all immersive like one-stop shop like it's it's it's
it's eerily reminiscent of and i mean i hate to keep beating this point but like
of like church stuff oh yeah yeah yeah yeah well i mean even more than that dude it's eerily
reminiscent of just a straight up cult yeah there's stuff in here that's more cult-like than the church i grew up in yeah because it asks
you to follow a certain sort of roadmap or framework for like organizing yeah and that
can be good i mean you know i've been involved in campaigns and direct action stuff and um you know
you come through with the da before i've actually seen you come through with the da
i've come through with the da baby i can put that on my activist resume yeah i mean you know it's
hard to be creative and stuff sometimes and you gotta you gotta you need a little help yeah to
come up with something however treating it like it's this sort of complex thing that you have to check boxes off to accomplish things.
Yeah.
It's very strange to me.
Yeah.
I don't know how you would take some of this convoluted stuff into your organizing and try to convince people of changing.
It's like we were saying in that one episode.
How would you convince people to change their narrative about narrative yeah i mean like the point of this is to like introduce you know themes and structures of
story writing into campaigns which is that's what a campaign is, right? It's just telling a story. Right. So it's like that's just kind of obvious.
But at the same time, like the way that they treat it, they treat it like they're insurrectionists in like the Spanish Civil War or something.
They treat it like it's this totally radical thing.
Yeah.
But also here's the other thing, too.
I think about all this about burnout being gone.
I'm sure this is I'm sure I'm getting ahead of ourselves because I'm sure this is going to make an appearance.
But you know on the other day in the DM we were talking about our most reactionary tendencies?
Yeah.
Here's mine that's sort of also wrapped in a hot tank.
And I don't know.
I could be just conditioned like this could just be my Protestant work ethic or whatever come through.
But this weird prioritization of self-care.
Right.
And like what it amounts to is just like wanting to avoid minor inconvenience.
Right.
And when I think about that, I also try to myself that rosa luxembourg got shot in her
fucking head yeah dude i can be a little tired oh yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying yeah
yeah i can be a little like you know my feet can hurt right it's okay right right right i can go
home take a bubble bath i mean like right you know that's so you're saying, I'm just codifying something called self-care, which is really
just like, you know, just take care of yourself.
There is a, the distance, okay, we live in a society of, we live in a society, you know,
we live in a time of mass consumption, right?
We live in a very neoliberal, we live in the neoliberal era.
Yeah.
The sort of, I don't know how you would put it. Ultimate vehicle for all political change and action. They tell us in a neoliberal era era is the individual. Yeah. And so it makes sense why you would have self-care. And it also makes sense why we live in this dystopia where they say that the apogee of your political engagement with the system is voting.
That is a very good point.
This highly individualistic, atomized, and I wanted to flesh this out a little bit on the last one.
It's just like when we criticize voting, it's like you said on the last one, like, vote, whatever.
It doesn't fucking, I mean, it doesn't matter anyway.
It doesn't really change anything. It doesn't hurt it doesn't hurt your expectations for change exactly and also understand that in a
society of mass consumption and a neoliberal society the whole point of voting is to diffuse
collective action action that is a good that's a point i hadn't thought about. Yeah, it's to encourage individualistic action.
It diffuses political grassroots collective movements and everything.
But what's interesting is they talk about it like it's the exact opposite of what it is.
Like it is this mass of people coming together, rallying around those causes.
And I guess on the surface it would look like that because usually there's two candidates
and maybe a couple of other sort of what people call fringe candidates or whatever.
And then, like, you know, you just pick from that, you know, that little slate.
But yeah, I hadn't really thought of it that voting is actually really kind of an individualistic.
Right.
And that's not to say, like, don't do it.
Whatever.
I mean, I don't give a fuck.
I'm tired of really beating that dead horse.
But did I get the idiom right?
We're done with it.
Yeah, I think you did good that time.
It took you 31 years to get idioms right.
To get an idiom correct.
But, yeah, among other topics we're going to put to bed with Christianity
is also electoralism. Maybe not. Um, but yeah, among other topics we're going to put to bed with Christianity are as also
electoral as maybe not.
It's just such a wellspring of content.
It's just like a, just a, you know, like a natural spring that leaks out of the hills,
but content instead of water.
It's like, yeah, well, it's like I was telling you the other day, I've made it my mission
over the next few years to do everything I can to destroy the facade of liberalism.
Yeah, that's an honest project for a podcast.
Yeah, that's really all we can do.
That's about that.
We're not organizing.
This is not politics.
A podcast is not politics.
No.
What we can do is destroy the edifice that is liberalism, the illusion.
And we do that by making fun of it.
Here you go.
You could center yourself.
Spend some time with young people.
I'm not really sure how that keeps you from burning out.
Also in the wrong hands.
Yeah.
That might be bad advice.
Dennis Hastert was feeling a little burnt out.
Let's see.
Download a meditation app.
You could download a meditation app to not burn out.
Oh, man.
You could get a mentor
And check in with them
You can make a piece of art
You can make a craft
Hobby date
List ten things that you long for
What are ten things that you long for?
That's not fit to put out there
Yeah
MDMA
Amphetamines
Amphetamines cocaine purple drink yeah codeine promethazine
oh man that would be funny and no burnout bingo and it's just drugs
and you gotta pick a line you've got to pick a yeah
and then down the middle it's just x a n a x just one
yeah yeah yeah yeah hell yeah oh man um oh so that's playing some time off playing a trip
get someone to play no burnout bingo's on here. That's the center square.
Heavy meta, man.
Fuck, Tom.
This is so crazy.
Mapping story archetypes.
They've also got this little exercise in here.
Are you familiar with, you know, like Brian Eno and Robert Fripp recorded albums in the late 70s and 80s?
and Robert Fripp recorded albums in the late 70s and 80s.
They had this process that we should actually probably start doing for the podcast.
But they had this process.
Brian Eno came up with this process for recording an album.
I can't remember the fucking name for it now.
But he would write down an idea on a card.
So it'd be like, play a glockenspiel or something.
Like, play something beat in three, four time on a certain instrument.
And if they were feeling like they had come up to a creative roadblock,
they would draw one of these cards and just try to get themselves out of that box.
Well, they've basically done something very similar here as well.
They call them, what is it called?
It's like story detours so let's say you're cut you're you're analyzing the narrative you know you're in your
narrative zone you're in your narrative pod or whatever you come across a
roadblock they'll have a long enough timeline they'll start developing these
for like a little organizing that organizing. Like literal pods you go
into. You know like
at airports how they have the nap pods and stuff
and pay like 15 bucks to
like nap in for an hour or something?
They'll absolutely, you're
absolutely right. You'll get in this little pod
and then just these little ideas and flash
cards will start like popping up as
holograms. Hey Tom,
you considered this? Right. It's basically cards cards will start like popping up and as holograms hey tom well basically this right that's what it
exists it's basically cards for him cards against humanity for the woke set it's basically cards for
humanity that's right 52 interventions to change the story oh my god stay quiet expose that secrets
are being kept i don't know what that means Go outside for a walk to consider how you could bring the outside in.
Look back at your mistakes and check to see if there are actually opportunities there.
This is pretty bad, dude.
Pretty bad.
Pretty bad.
Anyways, that's what I was entertaining myself with literally as you walked in.
So what's the other bingo?
There's burnout bingo.
Oh, the other one is resistance bingo.
Oh, now this is what this is.
Now we're getting into the good stuff.
All right, I'll show you what's on resistance bingo.
What's the free space?
It's a pussy hat.
It's get someone to play resistance bingo with you.
That's what it is.
Like the last one, the free space, was get someone to play resistance bingo with you. That's what it is. Like the last one, the free space,
was get someone to play burnout bingo with you.
You know, are you talking about the middle?
So you could never win unless you had a partner?
I guess so.
I guess if you went like...
Yeah, I think that's the point.
That's probably the point they're trying to make.
They're like, you got to come together, man.
Come together, baby.
Resistance bingo is pretty funny because the sort of subheader on it that sort of explains
its raison d'être, you know what I'm saying.
Resistance bingo is the best way to keep everyone involved in resisting U.S. fascism and building
power to defeat it.
Wait, wait, wait.
A bingo game is the best way
to keep everyone involved?
The best way to fight U.S. fascism.
Bingo, baby.
Hold on a second, hold on a second.
The best way to fight u.s fascism is to play resistance bingo tm
tm trademark is this something you found in that remember that that uh woke box those people were
selling oh the uh the safety pin remember when they had the safety pins? It's probably of that sort of same, if we're looking at the social justice ecosystem.
It's just like woke tchotchkes.
That's exactly what it is.
Yeah, no, it's like you've got kids in concentration camps at the border, and it's like, how are
we going to combat this?
And then somebody speaks up from the back.
Listen, it's going to sound crazy we going to combat this and then somebody speaks up from the back listen it's gonna sound crazy but bingo everybody loves bingo everybody loves me oh dude one of these my question is if these my the hardest job i've ever had in my life and if i'm gonna sit here
to trot out my working class credentials i've hung hung drywall. I've worked at a water plant.
I've fucking hung tobacco.
I've done basically everything except for the obvious thing, which is coal mining.
There's still time, baby.
But maybe the hardest job I ever had was selling pool tabs at a fucking bingo hall.
You walk out of there with the worst chub rub imaginable and smelling like you fucking
smoked 40 packs oh yeah yeah yeah well imagine doing that at resistance bingo
it'd be the exact opposite yeah yeah like your buddy would be like
self-care man yeah set it out i'll take care of you a couple hours
go put some gold bond on those on those thighs right right no that's a drink out of my
mug of uh drink out of my mug of coffee that says white tears on it do they have those um
it's on the resistance bingo yeah really it's a mug that says white tears. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Take a social media news break.
Okay.
Resistance bingo.
Promoted an event.
It's got the Facebook thumbs up.
Organized an action demonstration.
Made visual.
So, I mean, you know, this isn't, the bingo is not saying that in and of itself it's the
political action.
It's, you know, encouraging you to go out and do things.
So, that's
good uh political put a political poster in my window read the movement for black lives platform
translate i mean you know some of these are good but some of these just don't make any sense
um address an emergency without the police i mean i mean that should that should be standard
that should be standard right corrected should be standard, right.
Corrected alternative facts, and it's got a rubber stamp with lies on it.
You've corrected alternative facts.
Yeah, yeah, you corrected alternative facts.
Because that's been terribly successful.
Reuse instead of buying new, I don't know, man.
You know, it's just stuff like that.
52 interventions for regenerative and sustainable movement work.
The point I was trying to make on Twitter as I was pointing this out,
and I didn't find it with the safety pin thing.
I don't remember where I found it.
It was just a screenshot I had of my phone.
I don't remember.
As you slide your receipt for the safety pin box underneath the couch. Yeah, stuff it into the cushions.
You know, I mean, there's nothing wrong with the sort of underlying impetus
for any of that stuff.
But I would just also tell my liberal friends,
you don't have to buy stuff to do good things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, again, this goes hand in hand with voting.
But again, we live in a society of mass consumption.
We live in an era of mass consumption and individualistic action. It makes total sense that a lot of social justice nonprofits try to relate your political agency to your ability to be a consumer.
And voting is the exact same way.
It functions even similarly.
They even market voting.
Yeah, they market voting and they even market candidates.
This is something that Chomsky said. They market candidates in the same way they market voting and they even market uh candidates you know this is something that chomsky said they market candidates in the same way they market toothpaste it's the exact
same way and so it's like your voting is sort of corollary to that yeah also i just want to say
something if beto o'rourke was that fucking cool he wouldn't be running for office. Yeah. Okay. By the way, did you see yesterday
where he was like...
Took that moral high ground
Ted Cruz.
So dude,
hey, you don't have to do that.
Yeah, you could just not say shit.
Yeah, you could just let it ride.
My favorite example
of not having to say shit
but saying something anyways is Andrewrew gillum the guy
running for um governor in florida yeah who has this pathological hatred of south american
socialist governments did you see that bizarre that it doesn't affect him in no way he's running for governor of a state mostly occupied by people from those countries
well actually that makes sense i mean i guess if the people there's a lot of conservative cubans
for example right it's not south america but that's all because their grandparents were like
bourgeois landowners yeah got all their fucking fucking goddamn farms taken during the revolution.
Yeah.
But it's really that his, Andrew Gillum had something this week about Venezuela.
Two weeks ago he had something about Nicaragua.
It's like.
He's going to.
Election day.
Folks, I want to just bring up something that's been on my mind.
Two words.
Manuel Noriega.
Just for no good reason.
Bruce is like, what?
Yeah, no, Beto also had something like that,
where he was like, lay off of Ted Cruz.
He did the John McCain thing with Ted Cruz.
If by some miracle he upsets Ted Cruz,
he will be the left's version if if by some miracle he upsets ted cruz he will be
the left's version when i'm in the left the liberal version of john mccain oh yeah yeah
yeah except he's way hotter oh yeah that's the thing about beto he's pretty hot yeah he's got
that going for him um it was funny yesterday when somebody caught ted cruz looking at a photo of him
did you see that you didn't see that they like someone caught him somebody caught ted Cruz looking at a photo of him. Did you see that?
You didn't see that?
Like, someone caught Ted Cruz on an airplane looking at a photo of Beto on his phone.
Did they take a picture of it?
Yeah, there's a picture of it.
Dude, Ted Cruz stays taking the L's,
and he's gonna win.
Oh, he's absolutely gonna win.
I don't understand how one man can take so many L's
and just keep the wins coming.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Yeah, he's gonna absolutely win that.
Fucking greasy bastard.
And that's the funny thing about it.
It's like, he's gonna win.
Why doesn't Beto just go full fucking, you know, red commie?
What do you want to do, dude?
What do you want to do? Do do you want to do do you want to
provide an alternative if i was beto and i had that kind of power i would absolutely be inciting
more people to get him you know harassed in public and yelled at and stuff yeah i'd be i'd be on
twitter saying like uh just got back from uh ted cruz's parents house had to stop by had to stop by and
leave some water in his mother's dish but no man he's out here he's like lay off my boy too way
off to you know a lot of people were making fun of the guy that had that tweet there was like
somebody tweeted i was like i told maybe it was you totally normal but that guy was
talking about oh beto and he was like beto is the guy your girlfriend date your ex-girlfriend
dates after you break up ted's gotta love ted man it was pretty bizarre that he went on that long
but that part was funny because i could see beto hugging been like ted's gotta love ted man
yeah and then it just got weird he's like and then he goes and blows her back out and watches could see Beto hugging me and like, Ted's gotta love Ted, man.
And then it just got weird. He's like, and then he goes and blows her
back out and watches Hulu.
I was like, god damn, pal.
Ah, dude,
people, I don't know.
That's so dark, dude.
Also, is anybody gonna
dress the elephant in the room and just realize
that maybe a white
guy called himself Beto's hair on
the problematics.
I thought Beto was like, you know, one of those like Latino guys that's like, you know,
through some colonial thing has an Irish last name.
You know what I mean?
Like a lot of people in Argentina have Nazi grandparents.
You know?
But no, it's just
you know.
One of those things like calling a white guy
Chico, it's like, that's a little
questionable.
So Beto's his real name, or it's not his real name,
it's his nickname.
I think his name's like Patrick or something.
So he's basically just doing that as like...
I think his real name's Mickey.
Mickey O. Rourke.
God damn it.
Another thing on this website I love...
I've seen these in my emails from time to time.
Have you ever seen the graphic that is like people standing?
Have you ever seen that graphic before?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just for the listening audience.
It's a graphic of three people at a baseball game.
One of them, I mean, there are varying heights.
One's a really tall guy.
One's a medium height guy.
One's a really short guy.
And it says, and they're trying to watch a
baseball game but there's a big fence in the way and um and so you know they can't see over it
obviously except the one really tall guy and then so the first frame says equality and they put
a same size crate underneath each person so they are raised up yeah to the same height then the
second one says equity which they've rearranged the crates.
They've given the shortest person two crates so that he can see all the way up.
That's equity.
Yeah.
And the third one is liberation.
And they've just done away with the fence altogether.
Hell yeah, baby.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
Which I don't understand.
I guess they're trying to say baseball should be free.
Baseball should be free.
And it basically is because they can't sell a fucking ticket anymore.
That's true.
Anyways, that's enough about the story-based strategy.
So what's going on?
Well, I was going to ask you on the occasion of your 31st
if you plan on getting white boy Rick wasted.
Yeah, sure.
Why not?
Fuck it.
Let's get white boy Rick wasted.
What did you think about that movie?
Give it to me, Tom.
Very dark.
Very dark.
You kind of feel sorry for the kid.
You feel kind of conflicted because, yeah, hell, he was definitely coerced by the FBI,
but wouldn't coerce that damn hard.
Yeah.
You know, it's really funny.
So, like, it's a true story.
Yeah.
And so it's, like, kind of hard to, like, poke fun at it.
Yeah, I'm just trying to bring a little levity to it.
It's a very dark film.
But it's kind of like the All Lives Matter set
or it's taking on mass incarceration.
Yeah, it definitely went way too easy on the cops,
but I felt like it really did get at the injustice of the situation.
Like, this guy got basically life in prison for selling crack.
Yeah.
He's a white guy.
Still in prison.
He's still in prison.
But it was interesting because, like, the movie,
and, you know, it's not a reflection of real life.
Who the fuck actually knows what happened in real life? But Race was a big sort of subtext of the movie. Obviously, it's not a reflection of real life who the fuck actually knows what happened in real life
but race was a big
sort of subtext
of the movie
obviously it's set
in Detroit
and it's called
white boy Rick
it's called
white boy Rick
right
but there'd be
these really
like sort of
ham-fisted
conversations in the movie
like dialogue
that was like
that was like
man white boy Rick
you gotta stop
doing all these crimes
because you get caught you're doing white boy time you're doing white boy time, you got to stop doing all these crimes because...
You get caught.
You're doing white boy time.
You're doing white boy time.
You get caught.
I'm doing black boy time.
Right.
And then it was funny.
You know, they use that as a plot point.
And it's like, actually.
Yeah.
Yes.
The war on drugs targeted everybody.
That was weird.
You're right.
It did sort of have that message at the end.
At the end.
Literally at the end.
It was like, because whatever the crime guy guy the crime family's name was right all ended
doing like 10 or 15 years and got out like you know in the 90s or something i forget what it was
yeah i forgot about that rick still rick still in jail and so it's basically you're yeah basically
it was saying like yes you're right like well look it's not that simple like
the black the black guys got off basically scot-free and the white guy's still paying for it
yeah which i thought was interesting but at the same time it was like a it was like a sort of very
like i i made this remark to you after the movie and i i you know i i sort of thought about it
several times since we saw the movie like Like, do do I still believe that?
But but it kind of feels like there's this sort of like recent trend in a certain kind of movie that like tries to position poor white people like on the same sort of.
It's an extension of like the white working class fascination.
Yeah.
And as you pointed out after darren aronofsky
really that's he brothers his bread with gritty white yeah characters the wrestler the fighter
the fighter i'm the one who's this one uh if you want to take it way back noah noah
that mother that motherfucker that motherfucker got drunk got drunk, woke up, and found himself naked and was embarrassed.
Noah was the first gritty white guy.
Gritty white guy.
Shit show-y white guy.
That's true, man.
Yeah.
Well, it got me thinking.
It would be really funny if they started applying this same framework to historical drama like i would like to see a movie about a gritty white guy the first gritty white guy in
like 1680 or something like that yeah who realizes he has white privilege like the very first one
the very first white person to realize the first the first white wokey month. Yeah.
Basically, yeah.
A guy's like,
Wow.
He's like,
I benefit from these systems of oppression.
Would you look at that?
I guess he probably has like a British accent because it's the 17th century.
Well, even if they made a movie about it,
he'd definitely have a British accent.
He sees himself oppression.
Benefit me.
Benefit me.
I'm the one who's fighting here, not you.
Not fucking you.
Terrible thing, my father's dead.
Damn.
Or you could make it in australia uh i don't like this racism
all this racism
you had a good bit about man that this week yeah yeah so I don't like... Oh, fuck. I fucked it up.
Sexism.
Nanette should do a whole stand-up bit about that.
It's so funny that everybody's going to call Hannah Goulds be Nanette from now on.
Yeah.
She's not Nanette anymore.
She's just going to be Nanette. It's kind of like how everybody refers to Leonard Skinner, like he's a person.
Right.
You watched Nanette.
What's the meaning of the name Nanette?
I don't know I did, dude.
So my girlfriend and her friend were, well, my girlfriend wasn't into it at all.
It was kind of a, you know, you sign up for comedy and then you get blasted with all this heavy shit.
Which is like, I'm not against her.
Get that out there.
You know, it's just, I kind of want to laugh when I.
Just don't call it comedy.
Yeah, just don't bait me in by calling it comedy.
Call it a TED Talk.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
But I don't know what we can add to that conversation.
It was like a, that was so four months ago.
Mike Howard had a hilarious bit this past weekend.
We were talking about TED Talks that like the East Kentucky version of a TED Talk would be a Jed Talk.
Oh, God.
Give me an example.
Just marinate on that for a minute.
So I don't know.
What would be, what would be something? I feel like the Friends Co-Lobby has been givinginate on that for a minute. So I don't know. What would be something?
I feel like the Friends Co-Lobby has been giving Jed talks for a minute.
I'd say absolutely.
I'd say absolutely.
Look, what they won't tell you is that coal is a renewable resource.
Right.
But then what they won't tell you is that coal takes 26 million years
to burn out
right right
there's people
in the Hollis man
that are just waiting
for coal to grow back
oh yeah
like I mean really
they've been taught
they've been like
told that and
believe it
oh yeah man
oh yeah
like it's just gonna
you know
get a couple good rains and and get back in business, baby.
What else do I have on this list of things to talk about?
We could talk about Kavanaugh a little bit if there's anything to say about it.
to say about it um one thing that i would say about the cavanaugh stuff is um i love i love it when pundits use the phrase constitutional hardball like all these democrats are out here
playing constitutional hardball i don't know tell me say more about that well it was a certain tweet
i saw last night where somebody had used it.
I could find it.
I screenshotted it, so it should be pretty quickly available.
The Gingrichization of the Democrats is coming.
The Ging...
What?
Yeah.
Oh, because Newt Gingrich, Bird Dog, Bill Clinton.
I guess so, yeah.
Whatever.
Evanetti et al. are in the vanguard.
I'm worried.
We've seen what happens when a party goes down this road
and starts dehumanizing the other side
and playing constitutional hardball.
It was funny that Avenatti padlocked his Twitter.
He's got like 700,000 followers
and he padlocked his Twitter.
Oh, shit.
Do you think he was lying about that whole fucking thing?
He's gotta be.
What about?
He said he had another accuser,
another Kavanaugh accuser.
Another credible...
Did you not see that?
I missed that part.
He announced that earlier this week and he hasn't delivered on that yet.
Granted, you know.
If a certain survivor is involved,
you know, take whatever time you need,
but he just seems to me like a grifter.
Kind of an opportunist a little bit.
Yeah, I think so too.
Right, right.
There's a guy that teaches at my alma mater
that thinks that Avenatti has the same name cachet as Oprah,
so the liberals might as well run him.
But was like kind of enthusiastic about it not like ironically like well they just might as well they were like
no avanadi's who they need to run he will absolutely lose yes not even any question
this kavanaugh stuff though is um you know i was talking to one of my co-workers about this earlier
this week and we mentioned it on the show last week but but it's just like, if you're Mitch McConnell, you've got to be looking at this being like, you know, pick any, you know, second, third, fourth, fifth option or whatever from the Federalist Society or whatever.
Just go down the road until you finally find one That hasn't raped somebody Yeah And this Well I'm sure they have
I mean this is
These are
Ghoulish people
Who are
Pieces of shit
But you know what I mean
Like
Who is not
A sort of
I don't know
A guy who is in such
You know
Who is so much
A Trumpian guy
Like Kavanaugh is
Yeah
I don't know, man.
I'm not saying I want that to happen.
I'm just saying that it's really funny to me to see the White House think that this is the best possible option for getting voters out for the midterms.
It serves two functions, right?
It's normalize sexual assault.
They're normalizing sexual
assault and then they also think that this is what's going to get people out voting in november
if this goes on for that long who the fuck knows yeah um but uh whereas like the sort of mcconnell
approach to this would would just be like to take the cane, yank him
off the stage and trot out the next ghoul.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I think that's right.
We're recording this on Wednesday.
This probably won't come out until Thursday.
today they released
you know, Kavanaugh released his
calendars or whatever.
Amazing. Amazing.
Amazing.
Just.
That is the biggest chef's kiss that ever was.
Absolutely incredible.
It's like, oh, well, here's something from the archives.
Weird.
I was going through my mother's attic and found these.
Right, right.
I was going through my mother's attic in Bethesda and found these.
The mean, gun-ridden streets of the affluent D.C. suburbs. these i was going through my mother's attic in bethesda and found these the mean gun ridden
streets of the affluent dc suburbs yeah fucking fuck you dude constitutional hardball baby um
all right let's take a quick break and get some of these speaker pieces
circled and uh selected how's that sound sounds good
six day circled and selected. How's that sound? Sounds good. A six-day war
We kiss at the Syrian border
And my heart is like a writing machine
Glowing in the night
vision
we should never
have
come
but blood
comes out
to flood
and your eyes, they are the only ones
Eyes
It was an awful smell
They blew up the King David Hotel
And now you feel me, how I really am
Shouting to beat the band
Air Force is out shooting to beat the buzzer
That's right darling, it's either us or it's them guitar solo
With a flag half raised
I throw in every dollar I make
I throw in every dollar I make Now believe what we really are just pretending to believe
The light is my allies in the region
Coming in as fire calls out to fire
I have to fire Your love keeps lifting me higher
Higher and higher海底海 Not the cheating kind
The funniest song in the world to me is Brooks and Dunn, She's Not the Cheating Kind.
She's never fooling around.
I think that actually the message of that song, though, is that she was dating a guy who was cheating on her.
But I wonder how many dumbass dudes out there were listening to that song like,
Hell yeah, man, my girl's also not the cheating kind.
Sure she's not, buddy.
Oh, fuck, man.
Hell yeah.
The, uh,
I want to do a whole
Trillbillies episode about certain
kind of scams we can do like certain
trill billy scams that would be pretty good getting an applebee's sign with a coming soon
on an abandoned building would be a
a really funny one that mike howard told me about the other day. It was about this guy who sold vibrators.
And he sent out rebate offers.
And he would send the rebate on a check.
But the check would have a big mess of dildo on it.
Like a big sort of cock imprint on it.
And he made a killing because people would be too embarrassed to go cash the check.
Because it had a big dick on it.
That's pretty brilliant.
Oh, man.
I'm 31.
I'm 31 today.
I'm coming up in the world.
I'm one step closer to the grave
I'm 31 today
I'm gonna suck your dick
On my 31st birthday
It's gonna be hot
It's gonna be hot it's gonna be fun
what we got over there tom we got some good speaker pieces
oh my god
i just don't know where to stop okay i'm gonna stop there
she's
not the cheating kind.
Okay, baby.
Okay.
I got to throw this one in there too.
Okay.
Okay.
This is your weekly Speak Your Peace.
This one follows a kind of familiar Speak Your Peace format.
It's where you read the first two lines and you're like, uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh, and then you're like, oh, whoa.
So here goes.
I'm calling about this Kavanaugh character who is trying to get into the Supreme Court.
It reminds me of Judge Clarence Thomas some 25 years ago.
I watched that, and that beat all I've ever seen.
Okay.
It was what he said it was, a high-tech lynching.
I'm thinking, okay, they're good.
Finally, there's somebody out there that believes in Anita Hill and is making that point in Whitesburg, Kentucky.
They slandered him in every way possible.
The people who did that
to him back then
were lower than
a snake's belly
in a wagon rut.
I'll be god damn.
It's the same
for the people today
who are doing the same thing
to Judge Kavanaugh.
Thank you.
Wow.
They started that
and it sounded like
He's getting ready
to make a case for women.
Believe in women.
Yeah.
Could you, I mean like,
is there anything more cynical and fucked up
than Clarence Thomas
using the absolutely abhorrent,
awful fucking legacy of lynching
to defend himself?
To cover his ass for his...
That's so fucking shameful.
That is so awful.
Also, what i hate is that
well i don't know we'll get into that it's not that shit's woke i can't can't be too woke
don't come on give it to us tom be woke i just think that there's i think something that i think
i've realized more and more i'm just trying to figure out a way to say this without sounding like that guy that took a
selfie and was like hashtag believe women or something like that yeah yeah yeah to boost their
their own woke credentials but i think i think and that's especially true here we i think we believe in a man's potential, like the person he could be, more so than what women are telling us about a person.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, it's...
Dude, look at...
Yeah.
Like, this whole nation...
Like, it's just boys being boys.
Right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right, right.
Well, it's like this whole nation, though, was founded on the idea that, like, a very small segment of society has to be trusted with running society.
Yeah.
With distributing its resources, with keeping people in line, you know, keeping the rabble in line.
Yeah. And those people are sort of, you know, traditionally, you know, even though it doesn't say it explicitly, it kind of does say it explicitly in the Constitution.
They're traditionally pretty much white males.
And so, yeah, it's like it is interesting to see that legacy sort of go head up against the world that the liberals want to see, which is a more which is that but diversified.
You know what I mean? Like which, you know, which is that, but diversified. You know what I mean?
Like,
which,
you know,
which is that,
but like a more diversified.
We want to,
we want to have a ruling class.
We just want it to be representative.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And so it's,
it's why it's,
it's a bit,
it's a bit why like during all this,
it's,
it's very frustrating because at,
at the bottom of it,
the system is still rotten and the whole thing's got to fucking go.
Yeah.
But at the same time,
it's like,
as a socialist
and as somebody who wants to see a better future,
like,
you absolutely have to side with the women here,
like Ford and Anita Hill and everybody else.
Yeah.
I mean,
that's just your baseline duty.
Whatever.
Anyways,
go ahead.
To the drug dealers of Letcher County, which sounds like a Bravo TV show.
You should be ashamed of yourselves for sucking people dry like leeches.
Could you imagine a drug dealer?
This also sucks people.
It's a one-stop shop, baby.
Get your drugs and get sucked off like a leech.
fucks people.
It's a one-stop shop, baby.
Get your drugs and get sucked off
like a leech.
It's also funny
to think about a drug dealer
just sort of obsessively
reading Speak Your Peace
and getting shamed in it.
Just like,
oh man, they're right.
I gotta stop sucking off
all these plants.
Damn, man,
I am kind of a leech.
You won't get a real job
and work.
Instead, you sell drugs and destroy families destroy children
and people are dying from overdoses you may think you're getting by with it now but by god he is
your judge and he will not let all this go on and the law enforcement officials of lecture county
don't do don't do a thing about it you know hey broken clocks right two times a day yeah we don't want him to
do anything about it either but no no no no i didn't mean like that i'm just my point is the
cops are useless they're absolutely useless yeah um they need to do something and do something now
okay now you're now you're wrong.
Here we go.
This is a good one.
Hit me, baby.
Hit me.
When you go into the voting booth in November,
remember what Joe Biden called you recently.
What Joe Biden called voters recently.
I don't know.
Did he have something to say about Southerners or something?
I don't know.
Maybe they're getting Joe Biden confused with confused with donald trump when he called jeff sessions uh what did he call jeff sessions like ignorant redneck
or ignorant southerners something like that i forget i don't know i yeah i don't know what
that's referring to he's like folks i don't i don't i don't have an attorney general
he's a ghost he He's useless. Yeah.
To the governor of Kentucky, we in Letcher County have no means of living
because every job you can get pays only $7.25 an hour
and rent is $700 a month, give or take.
And then there's the electric bill, which averages $400 to $700 a month,
depending on the season.
And there's your TV cable, which is $100 just for the basics.
And you act like you're bringing jobs in here to help us.
The low-paying jobs you're bringing in here hurt us.
Ooh, very good point.
Very good point.
Because...
Did it go off the rails here?
No, no.
Not really.
Because then they will cut out our food stamps.
They'll cut our food stamps out and we'll all be hurting.
Yeah.
That's not a bad point.
A girl who works at a certain location in Neon is selling pain meds.
Damn, where at?
Give me the name.
If you want something, just go in there and ask.
I don't know if that's like dry snitching or like a good advertising.
Yeah, it's like advertising just a business.
If you want something, just go in there.
Go on in and ask.
She'll give them to you.
Yeah, she'll give them to you.
The way some of these folks in Wattsburg carry on,
you'd think they'd been exiled to the extra-dimensional space
known as the Black Lodge for 25 years.
Damn, that's a Twin Peaks reference.
Are half
you folks speaking backwards
while the arm or the fireman
whispers in your ear? What?
Why do they have us Twin Peaks?
Who in Letcher County is
watching? Go ahead and
replace your manufactured doppelganger
so the rest of us can understand you
when you shout, hello.
Thank you and God bless.
Thank you.
They put a Speak Your Peace epilogue on the end of a Twin Peaks.
That is actually the perfect Speak Your Peace right there.
That should be held up as the template.
The platonic template.
Simple-minded people.
This is good. Oh, fuck people this is a good oh the fuck this is good
simple-minded people need to quit spitting out political hogwash at first that sounds like
kind of a self-righteous liberal like talking about how everybody's dumb and like
ill-informed right but here then here here it goes here's here's where it pivots
i listened to a lady from Puerto Rico, National Public Radio.
She said plenty of supplies and water were delivered to Puerto Rico, but were stolen
and taken to a cave in the mountains.
These mountains?
That's beautiful.
What if they did find all those water bottles that were supposed to go to Puerto Rico just in a fucking coal mine up Lake Camp Branch or something like that?
If you loved Bill Clinton and excused him when he was accused of rape and now you want to hear Professor Ford, you are a hypocrite.
Good one.
Good point.
Let's see.
Well, I think that what they're saying is anyways go on
i mean that's probably comes from the biggest maggot shot but it's not wrong well but that is
an interesting point which is that like if democrats want to be taken seriously about
that shit and not be not seem like they're coming off as just cynical and craven they need to
address the very credible claims against the former president.
The extremely credible claims.
Exactly.
Okay.
I see all these preachers on TV claiming to have healed all these child molesters,
druggies, murderers, wife beaters, thieves, and all types of people.
But they never go down to St. Jude's and heal the little children there.
Do you serve the same God?
I don't.
Have a good day.
Well, that's a good point.
Why does Benny Hinn, whatever,
why does he never go to the St. Jude's Children's Hospital?
That is a good point.
I guess there's no money in it.
No money in healing little kids.
If you don't believe Satan has taken over a large number of American citizens,
just go look at the so-called churchgoers who support the liar, sex abuser, and tax cheat we now have in our White House.
This is interesting.
I never would.
It's continued on page 11.
I think you could just flip it over.
Oh.
I would never have believed I would have seen the day
that some of the people I attend church with
would support a con man as vile as the un-Christian Donald John Trump.
That's hilarious, though, the very first line.
If you're skeptical of the if you're
skeptical of the notion that satan has taken over a large swath of the american public just check
this out i got some hard evidence right right right this concerns the freeloaders out there
fuck first they move in a few at a time
and then they say they're looking
at options to leave
before you realize that they have no
intentions of going anywhere.
Why should they? As long
as I'll keep them up, I'll be stuck with them.
Thank you.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, fuck. Oh, man.
This goes out to all the freeloaders out there.
I keep giving you shit.
Fuck, man.
What?
No, that was funny.
Just remember when you go into the voting booths,
what Joe Biden called you recently.
Oh, fuck, dude.
So does that speak your peace?
That speak your peace for the week Damn
Well damn man
I guess that's the episode
We should
Let's
I wanna try to encourage people out there
Listening to call in
And leave their own speak your pieces
Yeah let's do some speak
Let's do a speak your peace campaign
Start calling in with your own shit.
Your own propaganda for us to read.
We will read it on the air.
All you have to do is call 1-606-633-7508 from 9 a.m. Tuesday, that's Eastern Time,
to 9 a.m. Eastern Time on Fridays,
and you can speak your piece.
Or you can do what I used to do,
which is create a burner account,
a burner email account,
and email your shit in that way.
You can do that, and the address is
m-t-n-e-a-g-l-e
at bellsouth.net.
Oh, man.
I was really stoned last night,
and I thought I'd come up with a hilarious new bit.
I thought I'd come up with this hilarious idea of instead of steampunk,
it's weedpunk, and it's like this very industrial sort of weed culture.
That sounds terrible.
And I was like, oh, dude, this is hilarious.
Weed punk, man.
You know, like instead of the late 1800s,
like crazy clocks and shit like that,
you just got like crazy clocks,
but it's all like weed themed.
That actually would be good.
Nothing creeps me out like people that are really in the steampunk.
Right.
Well, then I got on Twitter.
I was like, damn, this is hilarious, but I better check to make sure that nobody else
is because I don't want to rip off a joke.
And I searched weed punk and it brought up dozens of like stoners over the past six years
that have been like man i got an idea
i was like fuck dude it just makes you wonder sometimes if there's like
there are truly no new ideas and also i wonder if weed gives you just like universal ideas
you know what I mean? Oh, shit.
Well, anyways.
So, that's the show.
I guess we might have to do a few shout-outs.
Before we go, I had a request on the Patreon that next time we do shout-outs for Patreon subscribers,
we shout-out some of our older Patreon subscribers we shout out
some of our older Patreon subscribers
because they deserve a shout out
we haven't done that but one
specifically was
Hamish Minicky I hope I'm saying
your name right man or Hamish
it could be Hamish
I terribly apologize if I've
fucked your name up but he wanted a shout out so I was
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Shout out Hamish.
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Yeah.
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We're taking all of you with us.
Yeah.
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And I think that catches us up this week.
And also, we need to go ahead and start plugging this show
we have in November.
That's right.
The Treatability Workers Party will be hosting a free show here in Whitesburg.
What is it, Tom?
November 16th?
Friday, November 16th, 2018.
And we'll be having musical accompaniment from Lee Baines and the Glory Fires,
Tommy Wright III, Nicholas F.,
Mike Millions,
some janky band called Tenure
that Terrence Merritt may not be the drummer for.
I was the drummer in it.
Now I am...
The harpsichordist. Yes, I'm I am the harpsichordist
yes I'm only playing
the harpsichord
and the drum synthesizer
and
Slutpill
our buddy Slutpill
who appeared
a couple episodes ago
and
am I leaving anybody out?
I don't think so
no I don't think so
but yeah come out today
and we'll be there of course
we'll be there
I was texting you Tom we're gonna rile the fucking crowd up yeah we were inspired so um no i don't think so but yeah come out today we'll be there of course we'll be there um i was
texting you tom we're gonna rile the fucking crowd up yeah we were inspired by street fights
yeah uh not just inciting people to want to kill jeff bezos so we're going to one-up them
and uh we're going after the big dog we're going after the big dog himself kill bill gates
i just want i just want to stand there and just this side of the room say Kill Bill, this side Gates.
Kill Bill Gates.
I've always wanted to do that.
I've always wanted to rock a party, rock a crowd.
That's the thing, Tom.
We're going to fucking get, what we're going to do, man, this show, we're going to get
people riled up to want to fucking run outside and run across the street throw trash
cans to their window of the whitaker bank fucking throw open the goddamn vault take all the cash run
out um anyways no come on out for that it'll be a good time and uh it's free show free you know
make your travel plans to wattsburg capacity i think 165, so you better get there early.
I will literally be leaving town the next day for New Mexico.
So, send me.
And it's a coin flip whether he'll come back or not.
So, your last chance if you ever wanted to meet Terrence from the show.
It's true, because I was literally texting Tom earlier this week.
I was like, man, I'm looking for jobs in New Mexico.
Before we depart, i got a question to
ask you what i kind of dress like jerry seinfeld today you got a bit of a seinfeld vibe to you
that's not what i was going for but it kind of panned out that way speaking of seinfeld and
going home to new mexico last time i went home was at christmas and i was flying uh and i was flying next to this
woman she had to have been in her early 80s or late 70s she was pretty old and she was so worked
up she was like um i can't find my ticket like we'd already we were in the air by this point we
were way up in the air she was like i can't find my ticket i'm just so worried about if they come
around asking for it and i and i, what are they going to do?
I said, what are they going to do, throw you out?
And she goes, ah.
She thought that was hilarious.
She goes, you're the most down-to-earth person I've ever met.
Just because I made like a Seinfeld-type joke.
What are they going to do? Throw you out?
She's like, you're the most down to earth person I've ever met.
Anyways, so thanks for listening, everybody.
We'll catch up with you next.
Well, we'll catch up with you this weekend once we get that all figured out.
Yeah. And happy birthday to me I guess
alright we'll see you later