Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 98: Not All Dogs, Part 1

Episode Date: May 22, 2019

Topics this week include: male fragility, Tom becoming a first responder, Kentucky's governor race, and abortion. If you wanna hear part 2 of this, in which we dive into the lives of some of the hor...niest people who ever lived, look for it on our Patreon this Sunday: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's like a big red cylinder. Oh, no. Except my salt was gray. It looked like a gray butthole zoomed in or something. I assumed it was in space. Yeah. Yeah. Where do I plug us in at, Terrence?
Starting point is 00:00:18 Terrence? Well, I'll just say this. My allergies are killing me, so everybody's getting treated to my sexy voice today. What do you normally give us? Something less than sexy. Did I just hear you describe Oumuamua as a butthole? I don't think that's what I saw. A zoomed in butthole.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Yeah, that's what she said. I saw a picture today just flipping quickly through the timeline, and it looked like a zoomed in butthole. Yeah, that's what she said. I saw a picture today just flipping quickly through the timeline, and it looked like a zoomed in butthole in space, and so I assumed it was some new discovery. No, that's the picture of the black hole they took a few weeks ago. No, I saw that. It wasn't that one. That one just sort of flew in and out of the news, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:00 Really disappointing. Because millennials were so unimpressed with that end of a cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. Can't impress us. We're only impressed by melting ice escapes. I remember making a joke about that and somebody chatted me quickly. What?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Like, anytime you make a science joke, everybody always tells you it's a slippery slope to anti-Semitism. You ever notice that? Really? Like, I was saying something about Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon, the sportscasters, and they were making fun of, not making fun of, they were trying to discipline, I don't know if it was Kyrie Irving or Steph Curry,
Starting point is 00:01:41 over his, he had made some offhanded remarks about how we didn't really go to the moon. And then they were like, this is a dangerous precedent for a high profile athlete to set. And my point on that was like, okay, okay. I get how like conspiratorial shit can slide into anti-Semitism and racism and all these different things. But also what about the other side of that coin about all these motherfuckers that believe the united states is the city on the hill that's always this benevolent actor and yeah all this stuff and believe every fucking myth of this country tells about itself that most people walking around just take for granted right and it's 100 bullshit right yeah right which one's fucking corn has exactly which one's more dangerous that is exactly right uh the my just normal fucking
Starting point is 00:02:28 friend who said if you make a earning cut off people won't work as hard really oh yeah yeah yeah i still every day i think about this so people still believe this the so people still believe this the theory was that if you put a cap on how much somebody can make i made a joke about billionaires how like there shouldn't be billionaires obviously right that's not a joke that's yeah i just i was like yeah i just like you know it's like but billionaires right no one should be a billionaire there are countries without a billion dollars that's outrageous and he was like well you know, what do you do? If you cap earnings, people won't work as hard. That's a gay man, which gay white men own essentially everything at this point anyway.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But gay cis white dudes. What's your thoughts on the Pete Buttigieg candidacy? On the Pete Buttigieg campaign um i just don't care i don't care about my i don't care about mayor pete i don't care about the presidency wait i told y'all anybody who wants to be president i don't want to be president yeah what um but wait how is it more dangerous to think that we didn't land on the moon than, like, isn't there a high-profile athlete? That is a good point. I almost finished your sentence for you, but it's like, believing we didn't go to the moon is far less insidious than, for example, believing we've ever fought a just war. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Or ever had an actual social safety net. Right. Like there's so many. Or that the country was founded on principles of equality and egalitarianism. Yeah. There was literally a fugitive slave clause in the Constitution. I don't know how else to spell it out for you people. That the people who started this country were literal nazis bad people bad hombres they were bad hombres
Starting point is 00:04:31 speaking of bad hombres i have to tell you all about a conversation i witnessed today in uh the grand hotel i work in the grand whitesburg hotel yeah tell us about it we host many work program people i don't even know what the fuck how these people come to work there i don't know what they do they just hang out like the rest of us and shoot the shit we eat lunch on the couches together but this is through a senior citizens program. He works, he like waters the plants and hangs out and argues with people. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:12 On the couches. That sounds awesome. Every workplace should have an old grumpy just son of a bitch who comes in and waters the plants. Well, we have six. So y'all just come get them. Take your pick.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Come take, come take you one home. Adopt-a-dick day we'll have. Come take yours home. Do you work at Dairy Queen now, my child? Anyway, I can't even, I'm not even sure how we got to this, but he just hollers,
Starting point is 00:05:44 buddy, everybody hates the white man i wonder i'm hoping that's just like an internal dialogue in his head he just like let it out then he just was like oh shit did i say that out loud no it was a part of the conversation but he took it there so quickly or oh no he said oh god okay i know we were talking about hysterectomies buckle up and he said oh i know all about it i've had two i said oh is that right you've had two hysterectomies have you and he said no no i mean i've been with two women who had them and i had it worse than they did oh my god i would have i would not trade in places
Starting point is 00:06:40 with that son of a bitch to have said that in front of you to save my life what happened next well i just stared at him for a second i was like i highly fucking doubt that ricky oh it was ricky this is fucking rocking ricky's ass i love ricky he does the show after mine and um the other day he was like i was listening to him and he was like, here on WMMT radio, we don't talk about politics, nationality, gender, sexuality, race. We avoid it completely. That's what he said. He said, because we just like to have fun, and it's no fun when you talk about that stuff. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Ricky's adopted a don't ask, don't tell policy about every identity every identity because when i first met him when i first met him he said he was a trump guy and over time he's figured out that i'm very much not a trump guy so he's got to adjust his yeah so way of dealing yeah and and like he's a nice guy and so like he's Yeah, he's the first one to pull a black friend card. Oh, my girlfriend's black. He tells me that all the time. You might not believe this, but I've got a black nephew. I've got a black girlfriend. Hell, my pool boy's black.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I just like the idea that it's a once you wade into gender race anything it immediately becomes no fun zone well he proved himself correct today i'm here to tell he just couldn't take it anymore yeah everybody hates the white man yeah he said i had it worse than they did i had to clean up after all my gook form and all this stuff these two women i said ricky shut the fuck up i just i just had i was eating my lunch already just sitting in a bad headspace i was like ricky shut the fuck up and he looked at me shocked so usually i'm cool with them we're fine we shoot the shit and i was like just shut the fuck up ricky and another co-worker was sitting over there and she was like and she tried to slide in and smooth it over but he was like i was and he just started talking
Starting point is 00:08:59 again and i said ricky i just don't want to hear hear what you have to say about it man i just don't want to hear no more about it about how hard that hysterectomy was for you poor ricky and he was like everybody hates the white man and i couldn't just yeah broke you just broke his spirit and i wasn't gonna be baited into this shit i'd already told him to shut the fuck up and that was the most bait i was given but my co-worker oh she said now ricky you know the way i've heard it described that's helped me understand because he's like i've never done nothing to no woman women hate on me i've been good to women my whole life sounds like it yeah and she said it's like this ricky you know if a dog bites you if a dog comes up and bites you and you're scared and if and someone experiences a dog bite and then they don't want to
Starting point is 00:09:55 deal with dogs the rest of their life and they're scared of dogs you wouldn't tell them that they should do otherwise you'd be you'd think that made sense that they'd just stay away from dogs that's what she said and he looked at and he said not all dogs it's so in them at this point it is a very part all lives matter not all men is such a just part and parcel of their being oh fuck like once you extend the metaphor the the basic premise still remains the same yeah he had no idea what he had said i died laughing i stood up and i was like not all dogs they were just looking at me i I just kept walking, yelling, not all dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:46 All the way to my office. I just couldn't take it. He broke my brain. That is too fucking good. Isn't there a movie, All Dogs Go to Heaven? Yes. Not all dogs. Not all dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Not all dogs go to heaven. Holy fuck. Oh, my God. Rockin' Ricky. Rockin' Ricky. I thought y'all would like it. holy oh my god rockin ricky the gender-free race-free politics free hour with rockin ricky check your identities at the door people yeah step into the fun zone what you do okay one day i said ricky what um i was like does it work? Do you like clock in over there and come over here? Or do we pay you? Or does anybody pay you? He said, oh, I don't know, man, but this is the best job I ever had.
Starting point is 00:11:33 He's like, oh, sweet man, what do you do? And he's like, but this is the best job ever. I always run into him in the studio. He's always fixing shit. It's good to have him around because. No, he's packed many heavy heavy items for me right right like he actually gets shit done which is you know good he does what well i painted a wall with him one time and he wouldn't work unless i was working i i i just love does what do you mean that in a creepy way was he being was he being creepy
Starting point is 00:12:02 no he's acting like he couldn't do nothing by himself. You know, one of those. It's like, if you ain't around, they ain't doing nothing. I hope these six guys form a union. You just come in one day and you thought a wall was getting painted. He just looks at you with his arms crossed and says, be no paint today you remember that next time you go through this hallway making fun of ricky saying not all
Starting point is 00:12:32 dogs not all dogs i couldn't take it the girl kept trying to talk to him i was just like where do you go from here he He just said not all dogs. Such a perfect response. While I was walking into my office, I heard him start talking about pit bulls. Such a guy. The pit bull lobby, man. If you want an organizing model, I mean, it's said over and over again. If you want an organizing model, don't look to anybody but the pit bull lobby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They've done an amazing job rehabbing the pit bull's image. Well, the logic there is even more insanely accurate. By pulling the pit bull example out, it's like you've got a dog that is physically built to be a killing machine but only can be one if it's been socially sort of trained to be bred to be a killing machine so in many ways it just it's the exact same analogy but he just kept walking further into it without realizing it i just love how defensive they are though like i you know it's this it's this idea that just even talking about it just even going there is just uh yeah you they would have to concede some kind of ground well he apparently what he told my co-worker when i left was he said that's what happens when you uh corner a woman she can't take it oh my god he was like that's what happens
Starting point is 00:14:11 when you when you could when they know they're wrong they just take off ricky i had a similar situation with two guys named homer and doug two old guys that helped out when I was at the city. And we were redoing the swimming pool one year and painting and everything. It's hot as fuck out there. And, you know, we were repaving the concrete. I mean, doing all kinds of shit that was rough. Homer and Doug would just kind of walk up and, you know, sit there at the fence and just bullshit and all this stuff. The way you made that sound, it is like it was your personal swimming pool.
Starting point is 00:14:46 No, no, no. The municipal swimming pool. Hey, I hired two old guys to help me fix my pool. And then you fucked them. And Doug would all the time come up and start talking some bullshit. And one day he was talking about how big his thing was and uh tom gestured just so you know and went and clarified gesture was going on about it and he said uh he said homers is little but you know he didn't have as much fun with his little one as i came with my big they were just
Starting point is 00:15:22 like aggravate each other and all back and forth. He would just tell all these fantastical stories. You know Ken Jr.? Oh, yeah. Dumbest man I ever met. Yeah, by a mile. Absolute dumbest man I've ever met in my life. I can think of one other, but he was... He's up there.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Every once in a while, Ken was good to razz these guys. Doug, he kind of had a little bit of dementia too. So like he would get like really agitated, like at the drop of a dime. And he was telling one of his big stories. And Ken said, oh, Doug, that's fucking bullshit. And Doug grabbed that chain link fence and he looked up, rattled off something about his military service. And he said, there's two things you don't call me me son one's a liar and one's a son of a bitch
Starting point is 00:16:09 and ken looked at him rear back said well i think you're a lying son of a bitch doug said let me get over that goddamn fence 78 he was mad He was mad. He was mad. Is he the one with the big dick or the little dick? Big dick. Big dick Doug. Little dick Homer.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Big dick Doug. Well. I always thought, like, your theory about how old men always have big dicks is mostly true. 100% true. I got a theory about why that is, too. Why? I don't think they wore proper underwear back in the day.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So you know, when we were kids, we wore briefs. I think that... Stunted gross. You think that's a growth law. You know, kind of like you put a... God. But I've never seen an old guy that wasn't at least rocking one to his knee. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 What? Where are you seeing all these old dicks at? At the Hazard Pavilion locker room. Good God. I agree with you there. I haven't seen a lot of old dicks,
Starting point is 00:17:13 but the few old dicks that I have seen. Huge. They're big. Big old honkers. Men just had bigger dicks in the 50s. That's just all
Starting point is 00:17:21 there is to it. Hell, I'll blow out your back walls. It's preservatives in our food yeah it probably is fluoride in our water they just don't make them like they used to come on up to the house
Starting point is 00:17:37 I'll give you the long dick speaking of long dicks we're going gonna talk about A famous lover today Aren't we Yeah we should I'm trying to figure out How I want to separate
Starting point is 00:17:51 All this out Cause we're doing Two episodes today Aren't we Is that what we're doing Yeah we're doing two We gotta do What we gotta do
Starting point is 00:17:58 I reckon Double header Alright well Lynn Let's Here's what we should do We should just make it One long one and make the second part.
Starting point is 00:18:07 To get the second part, you gotta pay for Patreon. Okay. You missed the whole first part. Alright. We will probably have to take an intermission at some point in the middle. Yeah, and we cut it off in the middle and to get part two, ante up, baby.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Okay, alright. Then let's start. Let's start. I would feel bad about this if it were more than five fucking dollars i agree i agree no i was talking to tanya last night she was like we've been giving these people too much free content they can't be doing these hour and a half long episodes yeah tanya's free content tanya's stingy with the con look at her she's gotten greedy tanya's got tax on her content.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Giving him too much free goddamn content. You can't give it away for free. Yeah, that's right. Alright, well, so the first item I have on my agenda today is last week Tom saved a life. Tell us about the life you saved, Tom. Tell you how to save a life. Tell us how to save...
Starting point is 00:19:04 Tell us how to fuck my wife and how to save a life Tell us how to save Tell us how to Stay up with you all night Tell us how to fuck my wife And how to save a life Well So I was water testing Okay Up at you know the junction there
Starting point is 00:19:14 Where the old airman post office used to be Down under the bridge Going scooping a water sample Been there Well it's no secret that I've Drank and used myself to the point where my cognitive processes have declined markedly and so i heard something calling out to me from from afar i didn't know where help me help me help me just the most desperate cries and i'm like is somebody's
Starting point is 00:19:45 fucking drowning over here this water was high i was like what the fuck so i got the water sample i walked back up there and you know that house that sits just adjacent from the elder mine post office uh okay the subway's on the right you go down there's like that metal building that used to be a poker hall and then on the left there's a house on the right. You go down. There's like that metal building that used to be a poker hall. And then on the left, there's a house. And on the right, it's the post office. You're right. This woman was hanging out of the window at the side of the house.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And it's not easy to see from the road. Like, it's really a thousand wonders. And it's not the easiest to hear either. I just heard it faintly. And so I said uh walked across the road there and i was kind of poking my head around like where the fuck is it still couldn't figure it out and then like like a snake you would have bit me she was like right there in front of me like in the window like help me oh shit i said how do i get in how do i get in because i walked
Starting point is 00:20:39 over in the door there was like the storm door was tied off and tied to the door yeah but it wasn't like it wasn't like the storm door was loose right it was weird it's like they were trying to stop somewhere from getting in the front door or something i don't know so i walk around the side door you have to kick it in like a first responder tom dude you were a first responder i was a first responder man what give this man a standing ovation at Buffalo Wild Wings. Hey, hey. I'm not looking for a pat on the back. I'm just recounting the story.
Starting point is 00:21:14 That's just the kind of guy I am. Did it for the glory. So. When you told this to me, you really did have this air about it. Like, no big deal. Well, I've saved lives. I've saved lives before before i was a lifeguard for a number of years i saved you know two kids before jesus christ but wait on that note though
Starting point is 00:21:35 how long do you think because you know the first responder pool gets bigger and bigger right like the other day i saw a tattoo with somebody had got a thin red line for firefighters they've got their own thing now the firefighters are going fashy too they've got their own they've been smuggling money in this county for centuries and this week i heard pills too so i saw them i that house that burned down by apple shop a few years ago i saw them I that house that burned down by Apple Shop a few years ago I saw them get there when it was just a flame
Starting point is 00:22:09 in a window and then I watched the entire somehow it got worse the more they worked on it I watched I watched the entire thing burn down
Starting point is 00:22:17 with about a dozen firefighters standing around and all of a sudden there's nothing that can be done nothing we can do it's electrical fire what the fire yeah so thin red line but that makes me wonder like how soon lifeguards will be lumped into the first responder pool
Starting point is 00:22:34 thin teal line the thin white line yeah there you go the white line on their nose? Yeah, the sunblock. The thin white line. God. So you're a thin white line. I was a thin white line, and I was a fire dispatcher at one point. So I guess I'm thin red line, too. You're a thin red line, too. Are police dispatchers thin blue line? Oh, yeah, man. They think they're police officers.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And they are considered auxiliary police. So if you're a cop, know you're a cop if you're a yeah police dispatch on that note did you see that picture um it was maybe a few months ago tom and i were over in wise at the at the mexican restaurant there and they have a photo of the um the wise county sheriff's force and it is a paramilitary. They have like 40 They have a fully armored tank. Looks like a goddamn transformer.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Have you ever tried to go into the Wise County Courthouse? No. No, they pat down every single person and you cannot take a cell phone into that building. What? You can't take your cell phone in. I could go sleep in the Leicester County Courthouse for a month before anybody noticed. Yeah, you'd set you up a cop back maybe no yeah no remember when they lost a thousand dollars or something like that and they found it yeah the wife county courthouse you cannot bring
Starting point is 00:23:56 i mean of course you can't bring in knives or any of that shit but you can't even bring in a cell phone they said it was a national national security issue well they're so fucking stupid what the fuck is going on in wise that you think you need that much goddamn security? The funny thing about it is, like, you easily, you can see, like, there's no ostensible reason for a rural county. Well, what it is is they need to do that shit, like, to, like, boost the narrative of the narrative of this looming foreign threat. And we're ready. The foreign threat. You better believe that is in the proposal they submit to get those tanks.
Starting point is 00:24:36 MRAPs. Yeah, because it's all military surplus shit. Yeah, you're right. And it's all, I guess, ostensensibly if there's a front line of the war they're fighting it's the opioid war it's the drug war and also when these counties and cities pass these alcohol taxes and stuff like that a hundred percent of that money has to be funneled into either tourism or police so if you don't have like an official tourism board set up in your town or county and most most don't, surprisingly,
Starting point is 00:25:06 all 100% of that money, your booze money, goes to police. So everybody, all you booze hounds out there drinking in eastern Kentucky, you're tacitly cops. You're funding the police. Whether you know it or not. Whitesburg has an intercom system, you know, downtown that was funded with a homeland security grant. Right after 9-11. In the event of an evacuation situation, we can. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:35 But really all they use it for is to like play Christmas. Christmas music to torture people. Right, right. Well, I guess, so. I want to know what happened to this damsel in distress. Anyways, the first thin white line over here did you carry somebody out on your shoulders i sprung into action natural reaction to stressful situations just what i do it's what i've been trained for water uh water sample in hand i said
Starting point is 00:26:01 it there now i go over there i go in the side after you did the measurements on a ph 6.5 yeah ma'am i'll be right in just so you know your your water over here 8.3 ph dissolved solids a little high uh anyway so i go in through the side door did she yell to you come in through the side door Did she yell to you come in through the side door? Yeah she was instructing me And She said the side honey the side So
Starting point is 00:26:33 So I go in Through the side And instantly man I mean and I'm not saying this to like make light of the situation But it was like Like death in there. Like insta-puke. I still think somebody was actually dead in there, like a Faulkner story type situation.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Well, let me tell you something. That was not lost on me when I went in there. Instantly, I became vigilant. Because, hey, I've heard about shit like this happening. A woman calls to you, next thing you know, you you go in there you get a skillet to the head so naturally i did what my training had taught me and i observed i backed up to the door a little bit looked in the kitchen make sure no but seriously no there was like there was like food like just just tomatoes and onions and stuff that were just a mushy goop.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And there was no dead mice, but I could see mouse poop in the floor and all this kind of stuff. Just big stains. There was a leak in the ceiling. A squalid living situation. Squalid living situation. Like a Cormac McCarthy novel. I get in there to this woman, and she is bawling, crying. She said, I prayed to God.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I've been praying to God for three days that somebody would come find me. They've not checked on me in three days. Three days. Three days. She couldn't walk? Her hip was shattered. She had a bedpan in the bed with her that had overturned. It was like shit and piss was in her bed.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And she said, I need somebody to help me change my clothes and change my bedding. Tom. And I said, you got a son or something I can call? Who can I call for this? Nephew that you're comfortable with? No one had checked on her in three fucking days. Well, here's what was crazy. Then she said, can I use your phone?
Starting point is 00:28:31 She didn't have a phone in there. That's what, that was the tricky part. So I went back out to my truck and got my phone. And by the time I got back there, she wrote on these post-it notes to the landlord. And she said, could you go put this on his door? And she said, also, if you go down Crafts Collie about a quarter mile, there's a red house on the left. Could you put this on that one? And I said, fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I said, yeah. You want me to call an ambulance or something like that? Like, are you okay? She's like, I'm starved to death. I hadn't eaten anything in days. Hadn't had any water. Nothing like it. And had a crushed hip?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like a fractured hip? She had shattered her hip, yeah. So you called 911? No. No, no, no, no, no. She said that she had done that and they knew about that but then they just took her home and she's that they had scheduled a surgery and took her home i guess i it was there are people that are just like you know there are poor people then there are people
Starting point is 00:29:38 that are just living completely off the grid on on the margins yeah Just in the most squalid conditions. You can imagine. So she was like, I'm going to go and have surgery on it. I've had X amount of surgeries on it. I've got one more scheduled. And so I go get my phone and she's just bawling, crying,
Starting point is 00:29:58 thank you, baby, thank you, baby, thank you, baby, and all this stuff. And I said, can I get you something to eat, first of all? And she didn't want to. And I was like, I could run to said can i get you something to eat first of all and she didn't want to like and i was like i could run to mcdonald's and get you something whatever you know and uh finally she let me do that and i got back and she had called like her daughter
Starting point is 00:30:19 and this other dude and her daughter's husband and and couldn't get hold of any of them. Who leaves their elderly mother there where she can't walk? No one, she can't walk. Yeah, that's the thing that really gets me about this story. It's a breakdown of not only social services, but just family and human. Well, who knows what they've even had going on. Like, if you're relying on Tom Sexton To step into the role of
Starting point is 00:30:46 Empathetic Compassionate caretaker Society has failed Anyway I'm not trying to be cavalier About this So I go get her Three sausage biscuits and a medium Dr. Pepper like she asked.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Oh, I love. And she said, usually I just eat one, but I ain't eating three. So I went and got her three. So I'm sitting there with her, and nobody's calling her back. And then she starts telling me about her daughter. She's like, my daughter's got two master's degrees all this stuff and i'm thinking to myself how the fuck are you somebody that you know more or less has it together sounds like if you're like a nurse and have two master's degrees and you know you know you didn't take that to community college you went and like you know right you you
Starting point is 00:31:41 got a good paying job in hospital somewhere and uh maybe maybe i mean who knows who knows well stick a pin in that so uh i said well here i gotta finish this water test i gotta get these samples to the lab i'll swing back by here in about two hours and check on you and there's still shit everywhere still shit you get in a chair or something she's not mobile she's not mobile no she's got she's got a wheelchair that's like broken like it like looks like something like from you'd see in a fucking haunted house or something the whole thing seems sounds to me like a resident evil or something it was very it was very it was very opening scene of the texas chainsaw massacre reboot that's what i mean yeah like a horror movie yeah like i thought she was
Starting point is 00:32:34 gonna bang her cane like three times then some dudes will come there and and the horror is capitalism yeah the monster yes yeah yeah yeah so, like, to have created this sort of alienated social condition to where her family doesn't check on her. Insane. And has no sort of, like, recourse to, like, welfare state or anything. Anyway. Sorry. So I go outside and I take the one note over and stick it on the landlord's door.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And I'm walking back and I called Alex. I was like, you know, I need to, you know, see what's going on here. And so, you know, she took the samples to the lab and all that. And I no more than made it out of the driveway. Hey, hey, Frank. I know more than made it out of the driveway. Hey! Hey, Frank! They used to call me Frank the Tank. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Are you joking? They were really in that movie Old School with these guys I worked with, and they thought I could drink a lot. I don't know. Anyway. Did you used to have a reputation as a as a drinker like that among other things yeah yeah anyway it comes up there he says what are you doing i said and bro we called him bro was his nose isn't it and i said what are you doing bro he said man and he was the subject of a high-profile drug bust recently.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And I guess his dad had just passed away, had been this woman's landlord and all this stuff. And he was not well-equipped to function, much less be a landlord or whatever. Not that anybody should be a landlord. We should make all landlords unfunctional. But anyway, he comes up there, and he's like, man, Patsy, is she all right? And I was like, man, she's like broke her hip in here and like all this shit. He said, come get in the truck with me. And I thought, my truck?
Starting point is 00:34:49 and i thought my truck and takes me up to where her son i guess one of the people she called lives yeah let me show you all this let me show you all this this is where this guy was living at up uh up a holler is this up crafts calling i used to live up there yeah i know the red door he's talking about. The hen house. Fuck yeah. Hold on a second. Let me show you. Someone lived in your hen's house. In your hen's...
Starting point is 00:35:12 Fucking idiot. Her son-in-law was living in a camper. If I could explain this, if I could describe this to the audience, it's like a... It's just a little camper. Yeah, it's just a tiny little camper. I know people live in campers. Like one of those things that you put on the back of a pickup. Michael Jeff lives in a camper.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's fine. We call it the Ponderosa. I mean, but this doesn't do justice how small this was. This is up on blocks. It's like something you'd put on the back of like an S10 or something. Yeah. And I thought to myself, God damn, we have really failed people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We have failed people in unimaginable ways. Have you drove over crossover lately or any time crossover between pine creek and cram creek oh yeah yeah just squalor yeah yeah it's it's unimaginable so everybody running around buying these fucking tiny houses and any dickwad that buy that seven thousand dollar amazon shit i just want like hamas to like fucking i've not heard of this blow them up there's a seven thousand dollar amazon shed like the mini house amazon selling now with prime with prime with prime not for nothing not for nothing drone dropping in yeah that's insane i've worked on jobs like we i worked on the job when they built that stage over there at the river where they did Ace
Starting point is 00:36:27 Frehley the other night. There might be $900, $1,200 worth of materials in that $7,000 house. And my hunch is that it's not like, you know, well-paid union guys throwing them together. You know what I mean? And they're selling it. Anyway. And they're selling it. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So we go get this guy out of there. And he's like, man, I've been over there. I was over there. This was on a Saturday. I was over there on Thursday. She was fine. This is what the son said? Yeah, but just like totally like on the margins. Do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Just like total, you know. And he goes, I'm going to go. I'll get cleaned up. And then I'll go, you know, I'll go over there and see her. And I was like, man, you kind of need to come now. Finally, bro was like, no, listen, he comes over here and cuts my grass. I know he'll come back over and all this stuff, you know. And we go back over there, and Greg was at bro was at uh one of the rental properties that sits directly behind this woman's house and he was cleaning it out he's like man i've been over here for three
Starting point is 00:37:36 days cleaning this shit out you know and all this stuff and showed me all the trinkets he had unearthed and everything else he goes my renters were this nurse the woman's daughter and her husband he said they just up and left in the middle of the night and they had they had you know how like you know you make a little burn pit with some cinder blocks around or something like that yeah they had done that without the cinder blocks they had made like three little burn piles and were like burning a bunch of clothes, trash, all kinds of shit. He found a gold and diamond necklace in the pile.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Like they just had like all this shit, like nicer, newer shit, but like people that just like kind of, you know, I mean, like they just accumulate like, spend all their money on stuff. Do you know what I'm saying? What was the purpose? What was the ostensible purpose for burning all this stuff?
Starting point is 00:38:34 I think they were just trying to like get out of there quick for some reason. Oh, get rid of it. Instead of like taking the time to move all that shit, they were just burning it. Right. So they left without telling a girl? Didn't tell her nothing i my hunch is that they had stopped there fixed her up on a thursday and then just got out of there but somehow like that house didn't get in that shape in three days you know what i'm saying so they were literally literally letting that woman live in just the most squalid conditions. Damn.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Well. And bro hadn't heard her hollering out the window? No. Bro was on another level. Bro's not a first responder like Tom is. Tom's got the first responder sixth sense. You have an antenna for it, they give you. For God's sakes. Well, after that.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I didn't mean to introduce a really, maybe I fucked up in the order of things here. I didn't mean to introduce a super depressing story. No. Well, yeah, it kind of. I can't imagine there was a happy ending. It digresses from here into basically I was offered meth. And then we just talked about the old days working again. And all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah, you should have bought something and brought it. So we worked for a plumber in town. Maybe I've talked about it on the show before. I don't want to mention names. But together for a couple years. And, you know, we were just reminiscing about that. But, man, he got himself in some bad shape and it's like i don't know damn well um so that's okay so like that's fucked up
Starting point is 00:40:16 but we can at least pivot out of that to what i wanted to talk about next which is how we're going to fix this and the way we're going to fix it is electing Adam Edelman. Alright, baby. Have we checked on the returns yet? Okay, so it's voting day in Kentucky. That's the only reason I bring this up. We can do live returns on air. So it's voting day and
Starting point is 00:40:37 I wanted to talk about did y'all go vote? Did y'all go vote today? Yeah, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I was the first one at the polls this morning. Were you? I did.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And I just, you know how I made a big grandstand in the fall with my Dollywood season pass? Right. Because it's in the state of Kentucky. You do not have to show A state issued picture ID To vote Anything with your name on it works Including a Dollywood season pass But again this morning
Starting point is 00:41:13 They asked me for my ID And I just showed the bitch I was too tired to deal with it Were you going to make a principled stand That's what I did in the fall I held up the line for 20 minutes until they let me vote i mean i told you about this you know your ass don't you i said you do not i said it over and over again they're coal mining bro behind me was like this girl he's fucking rallying he's
Starting point is 00:41:38 in his stripes fucking about to turn the whole everybody in there against me and i was like i don't give a fuck if we have to stay in here all day I'm not showing you a picture I did he's like it's right there in your wall you got it it's like that ain't the fucking point it ain't the fucking point well the funny thing about that is like this would have been more amenable to that because no one voted today
Starting point is 00:41:58 I mean like turnout had to be pathetic I was I was in there less than two minutes but I went there ostensibly the busiest time of day and we usually around yeah we usually have two machines we had one today i went to a place oh where you go to my king fire department i went to the library and uh when i went at noon just thinking like um it'd be packed it'd be packed and it wasn't at all nobody i didn't even have to wait in line but it was funny the woman was like um the woman who's doing it she's really you know she's like really old i think it's the one who
Starting point is 00:42:29 was like they're all fucking dinosaurs and i was like i was like wait she goes it's like she was trying to find my name in the thing and she goes she's like well i just can't really read anymore can i do her she goes you can do a pretty good one get out your literature books we're gonna take us at good medium pace that way the ends that pick it up quicker can get it and the ones pick it up slower y'all get it too she was like we should get we should get somebody who's younger than me to do this but they have to be what she what she said was like they would have to be really they'd have to be really passionate about it and i just don't see any young people that are passionate about this kind of work these days how do you respond to that i was just all i said i flattered her i
Starting point is 00:43:22 was just like you know you're right There's only one person for the job. Sorry and hell. We're better off for it, Thelma. God, the socialist workers party debacle was that Thelma painted me into a corner on that one. Oh my God, that was so good. I want to know, though, what the thinking is behind that. Like, why? You had her call in the fucking, Frank, what the thinking is behind that. Like, why? You had her call in the fucking...
Starting point is 00:43:45 Frank, you had her call Frankford. She had the county judge or the clerk's office on speakerphone. She said, our records say he's socialist workers party. And she goes, oh, that's in the back of the book. David Naramore, everybody's just looking at me like I'm fucking, you know, done David Nairmore-esque crimes. I want to know, though, it seems like our generation is, I would say, compared to the generation before us, one of the most politically active active engaged generations in like 50 years how do you get to the like the next level being the polling attendant yeah my friend divina she's
Starting point is 00:44:35 like head over elections in her county she's my age she she was a it was an elected position and she beat out like an 80 year old man for it really well i i'd like to talk to uh her and give her a piece of my mind by letting the russians hack the election she's just over they got past county adams county ohio that was a pivotal county targeted by the russians well they didn't get past thelma because Trump, or wait, maybe that means that they did get past Thelma. They did get past Thelma. I should have told her that then. Thelma's been bought and sold.
Starting point is 00:45:10 She would admit it, though. Because she's like, that's why she can't read English anymore. She's been reading Russian for so long. That's what, she goes, get out your literature books. Then she whispers in my ear something in like perfect Russian and just looks at me and winks. Oh, shit. She's funny though she took my id and looked at it and just threw it back at me across the table threw it at me and then like five seconds passed and she goes i don't know why i threw that that's hilarious well you know when you get to that
Starting point is 00:45:41 age yeah sundowning and you only got about two hours a day of sentience that's true that's that's about what i got i save it up for you boys my two hours um anyway they expected the turnout to be so low because i commented on us not having both our machines because i showed her my fucking idea because i won't go fight with her this year or this time around and but i looked up and i said what happened to our other machine she said oh you know we don't have the turnout for the primary we didn't bring it out so i just only they just only prepared to have a little machine out it's smart i mean especially in a county like this where i mean let's face it bevin would probably win this county. Or is he? I doubt, no, not a chance now.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Hell no. Last time for sure. This time, not a prayer. All right, you say that, but. I know. Well, me and Michelle were just talking about this, and here was her qualitative data. It's Kevin Howard.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Oh, interesting. The surest benchmark. The Nate Silver of Letcher County. Literally, he's in the trenches of WYMT comment section every day. Every day. He does run the Bill Mitchell form of polling, which is read the comments. And he's got his finger on the pulse of people. So, yeah, what's the Kevin Howard report?
Starting point is 00:47:04 We should have had him on. What's the Kevin Howard report? We should have had him on. What's the Kevin Howard report? He said he's only seen two Bevan supporters in months. No one. No one. He said everyone drags him. There's only been two people to come to his defense. Well, the surest way, and why I know that normally I would agree with you,
Starting point is 00:47:22 but how I know he's got no prayer is they're trying to actively primary him. Look. In his own party. But. Are they? But, but, but, but. Yeah. Look, you really think that when November comes, people are going to vote for Adam Edelman over Bevan in this county?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Do you think Adam Edelman's going to win? That doesn't matter. You think Adam Edelman's going to win? No. I would say. He's a gentrifier. Here's my polling. polling here's my polling i think rocky will probably win look the reason that's a fuck the reason why i don't know but the reason why i don't think i'm not saying i'm not saying in the general i'm not saying you're not right it's brashir i'm just saying i i don't think that Bevin will get out of the primary.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Wait, so there is a Republican primary right now? Yeah, there is. Yes, there's two people running against him, including Goforth, who's in the statehouse. I did see Goforth signs and shit. But you think he's not going to win the primary? Bevin? I think he will. We'll know tonight.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I think he will. I think he'll win the go- That's my personal- You think he's going to be governor? I think he's going to think he'll win the Gov. That's my personal. You think he's going to be Gov. I think he's going to be Gov. Yeah. Look, we live in a fucked up state that is controlled by the most fucked up cynical business interests probably of any southern state.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Coal, horses, bourbon. It is bizarre. I can't really see. This guy can't go anywhere, though, without almost being tarred and feathered. Anywhere. In the hillbilly days, they wanted to. Well, I'm saying push comes to shove, though, and you've got this abortion shit that's come up recently.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's the issue, I think, of this election. In my opinion. I say that. This man tried to pull a special session during school testing so the teachers couldn't strike on him and show up at the statehouse. He's made too many blunders, I think. You're probably right. If he was a savvier politician, I would say you're absolutely right. I mean, the only identity politic he can play to like
Starting point is 00:49:26 pander is foster parent. And he's fucked that up. He's trying to turn. He's got the foster parent block against him? Yes. He has 11 foster children or nine or something. Oh, yeah. That's sociopathic.
Starting point is 00:49:41 You haven't seen a picture of him and all his many children? Oh, yeah. One foster child, two, I'd say, okay. Maybe that's a normal family. Anybody that's got 11 is running a goddamn factory in their basement and using child labor to run it. I heard this very recently. I didn't realize.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Apparently, he claims the reason he ran for governor in the beginning, of course, it's all changed by now but in the very beginning it was because it when when they moved to kentucky they denied him to have an open foster home they wouldn't give him any more foster kids because the state of kentucky cut him off they're like oh no you know you don't have an open home we're not giving you any foster kids and he claimed he ran he like his initial campaign was he was running for the foster families to change the system. I swear to fucking God. Holy shit, this guy's a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And now that he's governor, this is what he has done. His vendetta against the state of Kentucky social workers has been that he is, he has like, he's flipping all, he's turning over. He's trying to. It seems like he's not going to be successful. But he has tried to turn all foster care over to private agencies in the state of Kentucky. As a last fuck you to state social workers. He does. Who shut his home down.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He does have a visceral hatred for the state of Kentucky. Which is interesting for a governor of a state. Right. It's just very obvious in everything he says and does. Someone told me all this recently and I was like, I couldn't believe it. That's pretty wild. Supposedly, like,
Starting point is 00:51:09 in October or something, it's supposed to flip over to all private agencies. But, of course, like, that's, it's just not going to happen. Well, the only reason I say, I understand that this is
Starting point is 00:51:22 a very cynical way of looking at it. I understand that you're right you're i'll grant that you're both probably right bevin will likely lose i don't know if not if not tonight then definitely in the general yeah i didn't expect him to lose tonight i don't i didn't expect him to lose tonight either but yeah he'll probably i didn't even realize he was being primaried honestly because i saw now that you mentioned i saw a go forth ad and i was like who is this is this no Democrat run?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Like, there are Democrats that don't even know running. That's what makes me wonder if, that's what makes me think he will win the primary. When's the last time we primaryed a sitting fucking governor? I don't know. I don't know that. His opponents obviously haven't campaigned here, haven't seen shit. I'm not saying, that's another good point why you might be right that he does slide through the primaries. None of those, none of those Republican guys have really campaigned.
Starting point is 00:52:09 So the larger point is that like it seems that we're in a sort of very charged moment in the culture wars. And I'm referring, of course, to abortion. That seems like the like I just cannot envision a scenario in which this fucked up state votes for pro-abortion Andy Brashear or pro-abortion Adam Edelman. I would say, yeah, well, Rocky's dumbass. I would say Andy Brashear is more like... Ambivalent? Yeah, I mean, you know, I wouldn't do it, but... Yeah, he's riding his train to ride is his rape kits, digging Kentucky out from under 20 years of back rape kits.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Right. So he can easily shift an abortion conversation to that, to being like pro-victim, pro-survivor. Right. He can shift that narrative. He's got something to hedge. Yeah, he can ride that train. That's true.
Starting point is 00:52:57 That is very true. He can get out of that abortion corner. Do you think he'd still sign a bill, though, that would be like the one that's currently like because Bevin signed a bill, right? A ban? Yeah. Didn't they a few months ago? Yeah, it wasn't Bevin.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It was the whole fucking house. Right. But he's right. They passed it. Yeah. They're all tied up in court. Right. ACLC, SUDL.
Starting point is 00:53:25 ACLU. Sorry. ACLU, SUDL. passed it but yeah they're in they're they're all tied up in court right aclc soodle aclu sorry aclu soodle they're all tied up in court and then of course rocky well yeah rocky is for abortion and i'm against it and i want to also talk about rocky a little bit because i've been plugged into the teachers forums ever since like the teacher strikes you know kicked off and all this stuff i'm sort of the kevin howard of the teachers facebook groups let me tell you something those facebook groups are almost overwhelmingly rocky so if the teachers get the teachers well let me tell you all it's because teachers it's just like what me and you were talking about here sort of having like these more working class people that have professional degrees, whether you're a teacher, a lawyer, doctor, nurse, whatever,
Starting point is 00:54:10 and that sort of thing, you're just going to have such an uphill battle getting them to organize with the fast food workers and sort of the lower wage type work and i'm telling you with those people there is a hatred of i think they view abortion not only as like this like you know grandstanding as this like christian thing but also view it as something that just like poor people do and i think it's like i think they can gloss over that more easily than so you think they you think they're anti-abortion, maybe. Do you think the teachers go predominantly conservative? I would say almost overwhelmingly predominantly conservative. And is that why they picked Rocky?
Starting point is 00:54:52 Super reactionary. Is that why they picked Rocky as their candidate? Because he's not Vevin? Well, he's the Democrat. He's like the alternative. But he also has all the trappings of a Republican. That's true. So, then answer me this.
Starting point is 00:55:03 When Rocky inevitably loses today... He's also a name they know answer me this. When Rocky inevitably wins, loses today. He's also a name they know more than A. Edlin. Nobody knows fucking Edlin. That's why I figured it would be down to
Starting point is 00:55:10 Rocky and Brashear because that's names people know. Those are names people know. And, you know, what we don't think about is like Western Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Brashear could be kind of popular out there because they're from out there. And they probably don't know Rocky as well out here. We just have his name recognition here. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Well, I don't think Rocky would win. I think Bashir would probably win, right? What do y'all think? Today? Yeah. I don't know. It's too easy. I don't even know if we can... Did it shut down at 6? The polls don't even close yet. They just closed. They just closed at 6 o'clock. They just closed two minutes ago. So, you know, live on air here, we could
Starting point is 00:55:41 get some results in. Who knows? But it probably won't be out until 10 o'clock tonight well some shit so i wanted to talk a little bit about the abortion stuff um and i and i don't know really how or really how to like talk about it or set it up or anything other than to say that um okay so like we're recording this a week after the alabama bill thing and uh like two weeks after the georgia bill um and a few days after the missouri bill they're fucking popping up everywhere um i think that in alabama and georgia and it's and in kentucky all these fucking places i think that what they're doing is like what me and tom have said for a while they're doing incrementalism correctly they they are making they are passing the most extreme versions of abortion bill abortion
Starting point is 00:56:40 bans so that when it goes to the supreme court it'll just be like they can just sort of gradually whittle Roe v. Wade down. Like anyone that gets an abortion is not going to get a mandatory 99-year sentence. That's absurd. Right, like that would never... That'll get thrown out. That stuff will get thrown out. But they will probably get most of what they're looking for, except for the most extreme shit.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I would be willing to bet that they won't... Of course they would not throw out Roe v. Wade. What they would do, though, is they would whittle it down to like an eight-week ban or something fucking insane. Insane. Like a point where most women don't even know they're pregnant, probably. And it's not like this just popped off. They've been doing this for years because they've been waiting for this Supreme Court flip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:20 They knew the seat was going to come up, blah, blah, blah. As soon as Trump was elected, they knew that seat was going to come up while he was in office. So like Tennessee. I mean, two years ago, CNN wrote an article about how Kentucky would probably be the first state to not to not have an abortion clinic. Right. And the state of Kentucky, like right now in Louisville for the past, God, approaching five years, maybe three or four years. for the past god approaching five years maybe three or four years there is a state-of-the-art planned parenthood clinic in louisville kentucky that has never seen the light of day it is state-of-the-art just sitting shiny fucking stainless steel sitting in there just like lavish fucking services in there that and they will not issue them a permit to run it to do anything to do to do pap smears nothing to do nothing nothing is happening in there yeah well and it's fucked up um because like okay so like i was thinking a lot about this like you know a lot of the takes that you see are like um i it seems to me that like they're
Starting point is 00:58:23 on the left there's this sort of like attempt to want to break it down like what the sort of ideology behind this is you have some people that say they just want to control women you have some people that say that people think that it's life begins at conception or whatever and i think it's a combination of the two i'm going for the nuance uh middle road here but i don't i don't think it's just that they want to control women's bodies and the only reason i say that is because um well i will get to that in a minute but because i also think that like grow and the only reason i say this is because growing up in the church like the the only thing i ever heard about was you know like life
Starting point is 00:59:04 begins at conception you know what i mean like the the minute you're fucking conceived it's like a soul whatever so i mean like so i don't know i guess the only point that i guess you can make with all this is that like this is like a theocratic movement and it's like here's what i think now now put your evangelical hat on real quick think what you remember from being in church and like you're just so you can't even go there kid do you remember when sam alito do you remember when do you remember when bush appointed sam alito to the supreme court and they ostensibly had their conservative majority. Right. Okay. I remember being in some of these church groups, including one that was called, fuck, somebody out there listening might know. The Ramp.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Does that sound right? The Ramp. I don't know. It was like one of those church organizing things. Sound right, the ramp. I don't know. It was like one of those church organizing things. They were the kids that would go and do the, like,
Starting point is 01:00:10 put the red tape over their mouth for pro-life or whatever. They would do these, like, they would come through with the DA, but for, you know, like anti-abortion causes and stuff. Right, right. And I remember being in church, and they said, they're saying, it's all coming together just like the Bible foresaw. and they said, they saying, it's all coming together just like the Bible foresaw it. And they said, Sam Alito is in the Supreme Court. Have you ever walked across the street and saw what's across the street from the Supreme Court?
Starting point is 01:00:36 It's the U.S. Bank Building. And did you notice how it's shaped? It's shaped like an arrow. What the fuck? I mean, these same people were telling me about how, how like they ran into people that were possessed by the devil like sweeping the floors and dunking donuts and how they would like right lay hands on them and try to cast out devils and now their agenda is literally controlling the lives and now and now and now those people rule us yeah that's the thing like that's the thing that's fucked me up in the last few years.
Starting point is 01:01:07 The people that I grew up, the fucking kooks that I grew up. That you even knew in your heart of hearts, if you're being honest with yourself, even when you were a Christian, you were like, there's something not right here. These people are insane. Even when I was a Christian, even when I was a Christian and had this weird moral thing about abortion as a teenager i still thought that it should have been legal because it's like it's just i don't know it's just like people are gonna have them anyways and i i don't even
Starting point is 01:01:37 i've never honest to god i'm not saying this to say like i've always you know been right on all these issues but i'd never, I never, I can never can remember like being gung ho anti-abortion. Like even when I was a Christian, I just never, it's something I never thought about. Probably because I never thought I'd have sex, but. Well, you do, you would never be pregnant. You didn't have to think about it. No, I just didn't think it was ever possible.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I didn't ever apply think about it. I just didn't think it was ever possible that they'd ever reply to me. In any way. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what you can really say. Here's where I want to go with the Sam Alito thing, though. I just remember
Starting point is 01:02:20 for so long, when I was a kid, I remember telling my mom, I would never have an abortion, but, you know, people might need to. People can get abortion. Right. Even my Pentecostal Sunday school teacher mom. Right. Same shit.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Yeah. Well, people are going to have them anyway. Like, you know, like, you could at least work with that a little bit, you know? But it's like, when did this move from a wedge issue to because i was like for years very i mean maybe it still is but i was for years just like oh they just they just get on this tip to distract us from fucking shit they're not gonna take away roe v way they just go on about this this is bullshit exactly exactly years for years i was like this is ridiculous this is not what we need to be talking about it's just like you know and gay marriage these are the things it's like this
Starting point is 01:03:13 is ridiculous these are obviously these are obvious just like things that we should have that we shouldn't have to be conversating about all the time this is this is a waste of fucking time but we're having to deal with all this shit not not so strongly the distraction stuff but like but it was like that that was that was the general gist of how i felt right yeah right like it was just like this is just like their wedge in the culture wars right exactly what i think too i think basically when bush was in office and he had they had the executive branch they had, they had the executive branch, they had Congress, they had the Supreme Court. I thought, if they really
Starting point is 01:03:50 wanted to fucking make abortion illegal, they would. But if they did that, they would also take away their, like, one chip in the fucking culture, one of two chips in the culture. Right, well, then what do they have to fucking bark about and crow about? So they need something to run on. Right. Now, I think we're barreling toward the weird theocratic thing.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yeah. Like, I think the people that really wanted abortion outlawed, that were saying the weird shit about the arrow-shaped building pointing at the Supreme Court and, like, the prophetic implications of Sam Alito's appointment. Now, I think those people have enough purchase that they're really going for it now. And it is so personal because it's often not just they're usually this conversation has not just been about abortion that's what makes the headlines and shit but now these are actual abortion bans before it was like defunding Planned Parenthood blocking all kinds of services mostly not abortions lots of other health services that women need but at this point it's like way more about abortion and i just it's hard for me to see what their end game is like it's criminalization
Starting point is 01:04:54 and it's um it's social control it's mass incarceration yeah it is it's definitely mass incarceration it's peak criminalizationization of just like everything that humans do. Well, I was reading that. It's like, how do we? Yeah. And like Tom was saying, like what poor people do. They see this as like poor people activities. I was reading this article in the New York Times about how it's actually, we're not going to go back to a world before Roe.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Because before Roe, they weren't even criminalizing. They weren't punishing people who got abortions. They only punished doctors. Now we're in this. I mean, it's not that we've regressed. Imagine if that was the opioid epidemic. We only punish doctors. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:47 What do you think of every doctor in Letcher County? Would there even be any doctors left? Even when Michelle was in the hospital last week, she tried to get a Tylenol for six straight hours, and they brought her multiple Percocets in those six hours, tried to get her to take that instead. Wouldn't give her a Tylenol. Look, I want to go to all these pain clinics with just a bunch of kratom and just be like look just hand this out it's the same thing if you don't get strung out
Starting point is 01:06:15 you're completely functional I don't know anyways the anyways I don't know. Anyways, the, anyways, I don't know. There's nothing really profound to say about abortion. It's just that like, I don't really know what accounts for it. We need them. We have to be aggressive about it though. I do,
Starting point is 01:06:34 I do believe that. I do think that we have to like, just not even give anybody an inch to like, cause you've seen like this sort of little cottage industry pop up in the wake of these things coming up of like, trying to make anti-abortion woke almost. Like this one dude, I saw Sarah Jones had posted, and he wrote this book about how maybe in certain contexts abortion could be a left position. Or you mean anti-abortion? Anti-abortion, yeah. I'm sorry, anti-abortion.
Starting point is 01:07:02 It's the hard thing about this because it's like a double negative. Yeah. I always fuck it up. But yeah,ortion, yeah. Right, right. I'm sorry, anti-abortion. It's the hard thing about this because it's like a double negative. Yeah. I always fuck it up. But yeah, anti, you're, yeah. Yeah. Like, that's really the only thing I guess we have immediate control over. I say, yeah, I'd say fuck anybody. Like, that to me is like a big line in the sand.
Starting point is 01:07:18 It should be a huge line in the sand. I mean, I think it is. Who's conversating? Like, who is there even to convince of this you know what I mean it's just like well yeah and that's the thing the vast majority of people in this country support it yeah like I mean it's like 80% or something it's like
Starting point is 01:07:34 unbelievably to me again this is a if anybody should be taking lessons from this it's the liberals it's like how can you look at this and still think that we live in a democracy even theoretically like it let's say even let's say even if uh the people did get they get what they wanted which is abortion uh access to it and and
Starting point is 01:08:00 everything else you still have this like judicial branch that has zero democratic accountability we don't elect any of these fucking people they get to decide whether something like roe v wade is the law you know it's just don't confuse getting to vote with living in a democracy exactly that's exactly right um so yeah i don't know. I think the... There are tons of liberal organizations in this state and all over the country who will not put abortion access in their literature. Right. Scared to death. And look at Rocky Atkins.
Starting point is 01:08:36 They're terrified of it. He's a product of that. Yep. They will not... Reproductive justice, sure. We'll put you repro rights in there so i mean could you see like a scenario where people could be like okay well then um if that's what you think then like earlier you were just saying that nobody could win in this state with a pro-abortion stance what do you say
Starting point is 01:08:57 to that i mean i'm the one who said that well you have also remember you have to you have to consider louisville and lexington too i don't believe these things i think progress you know i'm not convinced that truly progressive fucking candidates who are who who are working class and and want working class people to live and thrive i'm convinced they can win i'm convinced they can win these bullshit elections i'm not convinced that they can't um but they don't run right and and and when they do they say they voted for trump and they're against abortion even even if they even if they secretly at the backhand you know liberal poker table are like
Starting point is 01:09:42 you know when we get in no they don't they never do they keep voting that way because they think they if you think you have to act a certain way to get elected you're not going to act a different way because you think that you're going to have to keep acting that way to stay elected right this is not a this is it's ridiculous yeah also if you're even the most milquetoast fucking liberal democrat or you know center-left whatever democrat there's two positions that meaningfully separate you from the republicans and that's fucking one of them yeah so when you knock that out like i don't want to hear you like there is like three feet of difference between you and whoever the fuck you might be running against.
Starting point is 01:10:25 So shut the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah. And let me bring this back to our current state of primaries. Our most progressive Democratic candidate are gentrifiers. They are filthy, rich gentrifiers. Literal capitalists. And so that is not a progressive candidate.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Right. These are not working class people though they don't they don't have a fucking clue what we've been going through right for centuries you know like it's this is not yeah just because you say the right things doesn't make you progressive candidate like i that's it's unbelievable and and not for nothing those people also made their money off the misery of eastern kentucky too is there any other way to make money in kentucky not in this state there's no other way unless you're doing horses there's no other way there's no way to make money except off the misery
Starting point is 01:11:14 you stole our whiskey recipes moving to central kentucky yes there was good water i mean this is so sad today i had to i was making i had to make a pitch To KT today And I literally had to Use the word bourbon And banjos I mean I might as well Fucking throw myself Off a cliff At this point
Starting point is 01:11:32 God That's bleak Tonya Yeah You're telling me Yeah But not all dogs Not all dogs That's the fucking day
Starting point is 01:11:41 I had I think we have Our episode time Yeah Alright well speaking of that let's put a bow on the first episode um if you want to hear the second part of this which we have to record in advance because both my colleagues here are leaving town for the weekend oh that's true leaving me all by myself i'm officiating up my first wedding this weekend
Starting point is 01:12:00 congratulations speak i'm gonna do a pro-abortion sermon at the wedding you should yeah may all of you have all the abortions you've ever dreamed of about abortion part weren't all the babies you want um i'll be in new orleans this weekend so if anybody wants to come holler come hollerller. Oh, wait. That reminds me. On that note, on the note of, well, we shouldn't fight the culture wars because the right wing will win, I tend to agree. We're probably never going to fight.
Starting point is 01:12:37 The left isn't good at fighting the culture wars or whatever. But if that is your game, might I recommend doing incrementalism the right way? And by that I mean adopt my position on abortion, which is that it is fully permissible and okay to kill a child up until 18 months. I'm pushing for two years. I'm just doing what they're doing in reverse. If they want to fucking put people in jail for 99 years for fucking getting an abortion it so i'm doing it the opposite way it's okay to kill a child up to 18 months and it's still fine also i got the
Starting point is 01:13:13 most vicious stomach bug i've ever lived i barely survived it from a three-year-old classroom so i'm pushing for three years okay all right all right we were recording with our buddy Chad Vigorous last night, and he made a good point, too, in the same vein Terrence was talking about. It's like all these fucking weirdos that are sharing these memes of dismembered babies and saying Planned Parenthood sells baby parts and blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever,
Starting point is 01:13:38 which, you know, Planned Parenthood also has some weird eugenics. Are you seeing that on your timeline? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. I've stayed completely off Facebook. I can't deal with that. It's bad.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Chad says, well, if you're showing, if you believe that these fetuses are children and you're showing them like this,
Starting point is 01:13:57 then you need to be convicted of child pornography. Especially if you're showing the dismembered baby that's just snuff porn right that's another yeah that's another front on the culture war so there you go i we just gave you two pieces of ammunition for your fucking culture war conversations just go as far extreme as you can imagine because that's what they're doing so just fuck it i mean you know yeah like a child doesn't even have a fully formed personality until like the fucking, at least
Starting point is 01:14:26 six months. Let's add a third chamber of Congress. Hezbollah. At the House, the Senate, and Hezbollah. All right. So this is the end of this one. If you want to go check out the second episode, if you want to go check out all the other episodes we record every weekend, go to patreon.com slash trailbillyworkersparty.
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