True Crime with Kendall Rae - Does "Hiccup Girl" Jennifer Mee Deserve a Life Sentence?

Episode Date: June 2, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Have you noticed that most ice cream is now common smaller cartons? Not blue bell. Blue bell takes pride in providing our customers with full half gallons and full points of our delicious ice cream. We would never want to deny any one of all the rich and creamy goodness found in every carton. Blue bell wouldn't have it any other way. Hey guys and welcome back to my channel. Thanks for joining me today. So for today's case, we're going to be talking about someone who is actually kind of I guess famous in a way for a brief period of time in 2007 and I'm talking about the hiccup girl
Starting point is 00:00:53 I'm sure some of you remember her or have heard of her story many people remember hiccup girl or just remember hearing about a girl with a horrible Case of the hiccups, but a lot of people don't know what ended up happening in the rest of her life. It's pretty crazy too, and I know that this is going to be a pretty controversial video, and I know you guys are going to have super mixed opinions on this case. So feel free to express in the comments what you think. Of course, as always, be kind when interacting with other people and sharing opinions, having other opinions, and listening to other opinions is okay. So this is Jennifer Me. She was born on July 28th, 1991, and is from Vermont. And like I mentioned in 2007, she got a horrible case of the hiccups, which everyone knows what that feels like to have hiccups and not want them anymore. Like at first it's kind of funny and whatever, but then it starts to get really annoying, it can become painful, it can become very disruptive
Starting point is 00:01:50 of your life, so can you imagine having it all the time? Well that became reality for Jennifer. On January 23rd 2007, Jennifer was in science class, she was just a normal day and all the time she got the hiccups, which is, you know, somewhat normal, pretty inconvenient and embarrassing in class. But she started hiccoping uncontrollably and very close together. And after an hour, it did not stop. After two hours, it did not stop. It didn't go away that night. It lasted until the next morning. The next day, another day, she could not stop hiccoping, which would get so annoying and become extremely painful and disruptive. Jennifer was hiccoping around 50 times per minute all day long. Can you imagine trying to sleep, eat, have a conversation, focus, be in somewhere public like class? It's like
Starting point is 00:02:40 it's almost impossible to do anything. It wasn't long before she started getting really bad chest pains spasms in her throat and really horrible back pain because she's constantly doing this like motion So Jennifer and her mom went to the doctor and they could not figure out what was wrong They did scans and tests and gave her medication and nothing worked Jennifer couldn't even go to school because her hiccups were so bad and disruptive. So it really impacted her life. Now because of her condition, Jennifer ended
Starting point is 00:03:10 up getting a lot of attention from the media. She ended up being interviewed on several news stations. The sound echoes through the TIA terminal, announcing the arrival of 15-year-old Jennifer Me.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That sound has been her constant companion since the first hit. Four weeks ago tomorrow, the first hit was 15 year old Jennifer Me. Yeah, I'm good. That sound has been her constant companion since the first pick for weeks ago tomorrow. And the sound is the least of it. I get really bad chest pain. I don't want pain to throw pain back.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Pain's unbelievable. We've been keeping her spirits up, keeping her smiling, but when she starts hurting starts crying, that's when it breaks my heart. So there's nothing I can do for after the attack started in science class on January 23rd Jennifer's parents took her to any doctor they thought might be able to help.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I've been to neurologist pediatricians cardiologist to get MRIs, cascans, blood work, everything. And nothing nothing. Then Jennifer and her parents embarked on a whirlwind media tour appearing on local and national news shows hoping someone would be able to offer a solution. None of work so far. I know this started January 23rd, first period science class out of nowhere. Yeah. First, it's kind of funny. It's not funny.
Starting point is 00:04:17 It's not going to work. It's not. Not at all. And she also got to meet Keith Irving, which, you know, was a kind of a highlight for her. And even though she was really struggling with this case that hiccups, it was kind of fun for her to have this 15 minutes of fame and travel around and get some attention. So of course, tons of people contacted Jennifer and her mom to try to help and had all types of remedies, as you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I've heard a lot of different remedies for hiccubing. I remember I had a teacher who would always tell kids to put a pair of scissors in a cup of water and then drink the water, which I'm sure was incredibly unsanitary. Of course, there's the classic method of trying to scare the hikibs out of somebody, but people also told her to ingest a bunch of sugar
Starting point is 00:05:02 to ingest peanut butter, drink gallons of water at once, ingesting a bunch of mustard, breathing into a bag. So many different things, and Jennifer tried as many as she could, because she was so desperate to get rid of that. I cannot imagine how uncomfortable that would be. We've tried tablespoons of peanut butter, um, tablespoons of sugar, um, mustard, um, or some other ones. Down the water.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Lots of water. Other suggestions have been impractical or illegal. Somebody told me to smoke marijuana, take a hit a marijuana that would help. Yeah. But you're not gonna go that route. Oh, definitely not. Eventually, Jennifer has put on a medication
Starting point is 00:05:42 that's normally prescribed for people with Tourette syndrome. And luckily, they think it worked. They actually think it was a combination of things Eventually, Jennifer was put on a medication that's normally prescribed for people with Tourette syndrome. And luckily, they think it worked. They actually think it was a combination of things that cured Jennifer's hiccubing, but she thinks it was mainly the medication and this special drinking cup that she had. Obviously, when Jennifer got rid of her hiccups, she was super relieved, and she told her mom that she wanted to get right back to school. So Jennifer ended up moving on with her life. Her family ended up suing the maker of that medicine because they used a picture of Jennifer
Starting point is 00:06:10 without their permission, which is really not cool. But Jennifer continued on to be happy. And she was a good kid. Her mom said that growing up she was always a sweet little girl. Her family says that whenever she was around them, she was super, super sweet and attentive to her younger siblings. She was happy. She would help her mom out with chores. She was just a good kid. However, she did say that she knew from a young age that Jennifer was really impressionable and also a people pleaser and really wanted to make her friends happy and would kind of go along with what other people would tell her to do, even if it wasn't right. And this becomes a huge problem for Jennifer. So eventually her family moved out of Vermont and moved to Florida.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And when they moved there, she was a little older. Her mom said that she started acting really tough around her new friends and kind of had a new persona. Suddenly, she started not getting along with her stepdad and she seemed to be rebelling a lot. At one point Jennifer even ran away from home and she's gone for long enough that it was reported in the newspapers and was really serious. It really freaked your parents out, but eventually she did come home. So yeah, they were starting to experience some difficulty with her for sure. So in 2010 when Jennifer is 19 years old she
Starting point is 00:07:26 started dating this guy named Lamont. His full name was Lamont Newton and he was definitely not a good influence to Jennifer at all. She started spending a lot of time with him and some of his other friends and eventually Lamont and Jennifer and another friend decided that they were going to commit a robbery altogether. His name was Shinnon Griffin and he was 22 years old at the time. He had just moved to Florida from Petal, Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina had hit really bad and devastated a lot of the buildings and houses around where he lived. So he wanted to get a fresh start in Florida. Shenan grew up loving football and he was
Starting point is 00:08:00 really good at playing. He played on the high school team and people who knew him said he was a really great guy and after the two of them had met online, Shanon and Jennifer decided to meet up. Now Shanon said that he was under the impression that he and Jennifer were going to be going on a date. But Jennifer saw it completely different. She claims that she was just going to help him get some weed from Le Mans. But Shinnon really thought this was a date and he ended up getting dressed up, he put on cologne. Shinnon had even told his cousin that he was going on a date. He hopped on his motor scooter and rode down to St. Petersburg to hopefully meet up with Jennifer. So him and Jennifer ended up meeting kind of a sketchy location. It was an alleyway that was next to this house that was for sale, but it was a vacant. Jennifer claims that she told Shanon the guys with the weed were
Starting point is 00:08:50 at the end of the alleyway in this backyard. So she leads them to Lamont and this other guy named Laurent. And then Jennifer just walks away. Then investigators assume that they demanded that Shanon give them all of his money. After this, there's probably some type of physical struggle. Shannan tried to fight back and eventually a gun was pulled and he was shot. And after he died, they ended up robbing him for 50 bucks. All of that for 50 dollars. After this, all of them fled the scene and the gun that was used to kill Shannan was
Starting point is 00:09:24 left at the scene, and the gun that was used to kill Shanon was left at the scene. All three of them went back to an apartment that was on the other side of the city, and just kind of sat in their guilt freaking out. She said that they didn't sleep that night at all, that they were just panicking, and she was starting to get scared, according to her at this point as well, because she didn't expect them to kill him, which is the big debate. Did she know they were going to do this or not? But anyway, she claims she didn't know and she started thinking about, you know, what did they kill me? Am I in a really bad situation right now? And she thought about going home, but she didn't want to put her mom in danger. She felt like this was her responsibility now. She got herself into this mess and she didn't want to bring these people into her mom's life, which I guess makes sense.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So they ended up soaking their clothes in bleach that night and they also took Shanaan's wallet and they put it in an air vent to try to hide it. And Jennifer was just freaking out because she claims she never wanted to kill him. That was never part of the original plan. She just thought they were gonna kind of maybe beat him up or you know rob him do what they had to do but she didn't think that he was going to be murdered. And this all happened in Fulborda and the laws in Florida are very very strict. It's actually law in Florida that if someone dies in a robbery everyone who was involved in the robbery can be charged with murder. So early the next day on October 24th police ended up figuring out that it was these three that had killed Shinnon. They looked at his messages, it was pretty easy to kind of put the pieces together,
Starting point is 00:10:56 and they brought all three of them in. So when they were first interviewing Jennifer, they actually had no idea that she was part of this. In fact, she was not considered to be part of it. She didn't mention anything about a robbery. They didn't know that that was at all emotive at this point. And she actually told them that the reason he was shot was because Shannon was messing with one of the guys' girlfriends and they took care of him because of this. And Jennifer said this, of course, because she knew if it was proved that she was actually involved in this robbery in any way, she could be charged with murder, too. But then Lamont ends up convincing Jennifer that she should tell the police about what happened and just be honest because she's famous. She's the hiccup girl. They're gonna let her get away
Starting point is 00:11:41 with this. She was young. There's no way that she's gonna get in trouble. She should just be honest. However, this was not the case. And Jennifer ended up being charged with first degree murder, even though she wasn't even there and didn't pull the trigger. My problem was I was your bond,
Starting point is 00:11:57 her name's Yero. You were a lawyer to help you? I was. All right, I'll put the lawyer to represent you. Mee's mother, Rachel Robido, held back tears as she sat next to her represent. Mies mother, Rachel Robito, held back tears as she sat next to her parents.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Mies grandparents. Police say me lure the man to a home while the two men with are robbed and at gunpoint. Police say the victim was shot and killed. Police say all three admitted
Starting point is 00:12:18 to their involvement. And all three now face first degree felony murdered charges this morning. Now the biggest piece of evidence in this case was the phone call that Jennifer made to her mom when she was first charged. Hello.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Hi mom. Hello, Jennifer. What's going on? I'm in jail. Why would you jail from the first degree? Could you kill? I ain't killed nobody. Well, the time of the tragedy was the time to murder.
Starting point is 00:12:40 She could have the attention murdered. Because I said everything up. It all went wrong. It shouldn't have gone down there after everything happened. Before you tried to kill a general murder. Nobody was even supposed to have somebody to help. Well, something happened. I just wanted to hear your jail. Okay, it was no, okay. So I told you come meet me right in front where I was. Where you can stay at. I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a...
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a...
Starting point is 00:13:22 I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to go out on a... I'm going to call you when I can, could I have a call? I'll be trying to make this. Visitation please. What is the patient's temper? You've got to call the morning to make one. Why do I want her now? Yes, ma'am. I can try to love you.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I love you too, Mom. I'm sorry, I love you. Yikes. So Jennifer's defense team knew that defending her was going to be really hard. Florida is just a whole nether beast. And they knew that going through the whole trial process was going to be really hard. So Jennifer's lawyer, John, actually asked the court if they could do a plea bargain. She could plea guilty in exchange for a 15-year sentence. And they actually turned this down,
Starting point is 00:14:05 and they said, don't even come to us unless you are offering at least 25 years. That was the bare minimum they were going to accept. They did not want to move forward with this. Jennifer did not want to get any more than 15 years, so they decided to move forward with the trial. During the trial, it was presented that Jennifer's DNA was actually on the clothes of Shinnon, which doesn't prove that she killed him. I mean, it proves she was with him and she was, but it doesn't prove that she was the one
Starting point is 00:14:31 to actually do it, but it was definitely used that way. The defense also tried to argue that Jennifer had schizophrenia, but she actually had a psychopath, and it was determined that she didn't have it, and they determined that she was competent to stand trial. They also tried to argue that she had Tourette's syndrome, which could have caused those hiccups, but this really doesn't matter considering it has nothing to do with the murder itself. And at the end of the day, they basically argued that without Jennifer, Shannan would still be alive. She lured him there, and whether you believe, you know, she knew what she was doing or not is up to the individual, but at the end of the day, it can definitely be argued that he would still be alive if it weren't for her actions. So in 2013, after the jury deliberated, Jennifer was found guilty of murder in the first degree. And not only that, she was sentenced to
Starting point is 00:15:21 life in prison without the possibility of parole. the hospital. The hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital
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Starting point is 00:15:40 hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital hospital the jury would convict her on a lesser charge, perhaps accessory to murder or a manslaughter. Now those shall spend the rest of her life behind bars for the murder of Shannan Griffin. Now prosecutors told jurors today that even though me did not pull that trigger three years ago, she ultimately orchestrated Griffin's death and lured him to that robbery gone wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Tonight I did speak with Griffin's mother and she said that no matter what this verdict was going to be tonight, it will never bring back her son. We've always wanted it to be about the victim. We are still grieving and we just want one of it to be about him. It's been a long journey. It's been almost three years.
Starting point is 00:16:21 It's been a struggle and we're just really grateful to the state for pushing this through. Now our cameras were rolling as Mee's mother left the courtroom flanked by family members. You can see she was very upset. I tried asking her a few questions, but she did not want to talk. Mee's mother did not make it back into the courtroom
Starting point is 00:16:42 in time to hear the verdict. Instead she found out from family members that her daughter will spend the rest of her life behind bars without the possibility of parole. So I know people are going to have opinions all over the place on this sentence. Personally, I think it's way too much time. I think she should have gotten some time, yes, but life in prison when she wasn't even there and you can't even prove for sure that she actually knew it was going to happen. It just doesn't sit right with me that the person who actually pulled
Starting point is 00:17:10 the trigger is getting the same sentence as someone who wasn't even there. Like of course she has responsibility here, but life in prison, I would love to know what you guys think would be a proper sentence because I highly doubt many of you are going to think it's life in prison. So she's currently serving her sentence at the Lowell Correction Institution in Florida. And it's very depressing for her. What happened to that sweet 15 year old girl
Starting point is 00:17:37 that we first met? I couldn't tell you guys, got cased up with the wrong crowd of people really, unfortunately, when I started experimenting with drugs, I just felt like I was invincible to everything. Now 24 years old, she's serving a life sentence in maximum security at Lowell Correctional, her cell block, housing some of the 50 most violent women in Florida. But I'm just like, this is a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:18:01 You know what I mean? And then there's other days where it's just like, it is what it is. Jennifer is in maximum security for her own safety because of the celebrity story behind her name. I felt like a lot of it was due to manipulation and being brainwashed, so to speak. Jennifer's siblings and her parents
Starting point is 00:18:19 are just blown away that she actually ended up with life in prison for this. You know, they get to visit her every once in a while, but I mean, it's almost like someone dies when they go to prison. Their role becomes so diminished in your life. It's just way too much time. Jennifer could easily, you know, be given some therapy and worked with and rejoin society as a normal person. I love my daughter. So you don't, you obviously do not think she's capable of such a good person.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I don't care to anybody. Jennifer's lawyer, John Turbana, has motioned for a new trial, but he was denied. And this is crazy. I don't know what you guys think about this, but Jennifer's lawyer actually thinks that if she wasn't the hiccup girl, that he would have been able to get her less time in prison. In fact, less than 15 years, he thinks. But I don't know. I don't know of her being the hiccup girl.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It's the reason why she's in there so long. But, you know, I'm not working on the case. Jennifer says that she feels incredibly remorseful that she really liked Shannan as soon as she met him and instantly felt bad leaving him with the two guys. Cause she knew that, you know, something was gonna happen,
Starting point is 00:19:28 whether she knew he was gonna be killed or not is debatable, but she knew he was probably gonna get beat up. And she says that she wishes so badly that she had decided to tell him to leave. In my mind, I was like, what do you mean you killed him? He was like, he's dead. And from there,
Starting point is 00:19:42 it just seems like everything on RaoVoord. She still claims she had no idea the plan included a gun. To this day, I still truly don't know and understand what took place for them to do what they did. Who are doing life in prison? What do you think would be fair? I think me personally, I feel would be fair is at least 20 years. I do, because yes, somebody's life was taken.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Somebody's loved one. Somebody's child. Your attorney has said, now there's less than a 1 to 2% chance of you ever getting out of here. How do you hold on to hope? I can't put nothing past God, but I've been locked up since I was 19. I can't stop fighting. I have a family that wants me home.
Starting point is 00:20:21 The two guys, Laurent and LeMont, were both sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole as well. And you know, that's more deserved since they were the ones there, the ones who actually did it. But Jennifer, it's debatable. That is gonna be it for me today guys. Thank you for joining me for another episode. And make sure you follow the show
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