True Crime with Kendall Rae - The Bizarre Story of Charles Manson

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Welcome to Talk Tooster. And today our video is about Charles Manson who's a lunatic Let me tell you this is a really interesting story. I think a lot of people have already heard of Charles Manson I definitely have but I didn't know anything about the story to be honest with you guys before I Research for this video Charles Manson died Last weekend, November 19th. He passed away from natural causes in prison Though I got all of a sudden I got a ton of requests to do a video on him.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Now some people were like, please don't do a video on Charles Manson. We already have seen too many videos on Charles Manson. There's just already too much content out there about him, so don't do it. So I did it Twitter poll and the majority of you guys that wanted the video. So we are gonna get into that video here.
Starting point is 00:01:21 So Charles Manson was born on November 12th of 1934. He is a Scorpio. Born in Cincinnati, Ohio to Kathleen Maddox, who was only 16 when she had him. He was a struggling alcoholic and a prostitute. So as you may guess, things were tough for Charles from birth. You know, your childhood really determines a lot of your future. For some of his childhood, he even stayed with aunts and uncles in a very religious family. I had to go church a lot and he hated church, except for he liked the singing and that was his first introduction to music. I think a older who was placed in like, boy schools and stuff, like home-away schools and who run away from them, who was bounced around from to place, person to person and can never really understand his mother.
Starting point is 00:02:06 His mother was extremely fucked up. She allowed the court to place him in the Jivalt School for Boys. After 10 months, he ran away to find her, but she would not take him back. Mother was his main source of anger. Like definitely when you see him talk about it and I'll put in a clip,
Starting point is 00:02:24 he's so angry and especially angry at her for lying to him. The only thing my mother taught me was that everything she said was a lie and I learned never to believe anyone about anything. The whole, you know, society structural thing was never a good fit for Charles. He ended up on the streets mainly and doing petty crimes such as braving at the gas stations, armed robbery, even auto theft. So I don't even know if those are considered petty crimes, but yeah, he ended up in jail pretty young. He was still just a teenager when he started spending time in prison in 1951. However, he was such an evil genius that he ended up
Starting point is 00:03:04 like figuring out the whole prison system really quickly He realized how he could become a model prisoner for everyone else and be treated much better And so he was like the best prisoner in there He was like honestly doing pretty well in jail like had really built a life I think for a lot of people whose lives are completely unstructured just chaotic, you know Their parents just never had their shit together. I think a lot of people like that end up in jail and they end up liking it because it is the only
Starting point is 00:03:32 thing that's ever been structured for them. You know, there's rules. There's a place to be at every time of the day. In prison, he got really into music. That's where he first discovered it and he would write songs all the time. He even took classes in prison and one of the ones he did really well in was the power positivity class. And he kind of used this sort of like the law of attraction type ideal to get everything
Starting point is 00:03:54 the rest of his life. It became like his way of life. He twisted it into something where he could use it for power. power. This summer is how to spot the star guarantee to keep you cool. The savings are coming from inside the house. Open this summer path, energy savings are the best so cool. Yes, you energy, energy for everything. Captain Banner now to learn more. When you download the Croger app, you have easy access to savings every day. Shop weekly sales and get personalized coupons to get the most value out of every trip every time, whether you shop in-store or online.
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Starting point is 00:05:12 Now, think about that. He has been in jail more than half his life at that point. So when it was finally time for him to be freed from prison, he actually wanted to stay there. He even asked if he could stay in prison because it was like the only home he'd never known. It was like he became so used to jail at it. It was his world. He wanted to be there and it wasn't like there was anything waiting for him on the other side. Who knows where his parents were, mom, little own dad and it's all he had kids or like
Starting point is 00:05:38 lovers to find. So he's kind of just like thrown back into the world. But he was finally released from prison on March 21, 1967. But most of the time between jail and the start of the cult is, you know, there's so much information on it. I can't really like explain everything he did during that time, but he was, he was all over the place. He even touched in with Scientology at one point and then decided it was too black, even for him.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He got married at some point. Eventually, he decided that he wanted a family and Manson never had a family. Like I said, like he was abandoned, he had a serious abandonment issues. He decided to make his own family. He literally called it the family. He was in California at this time. He went back and forth mainly between Los Angeles and San Francisco and he would pray on women and men who were also kind of miss bits who never felt like they fully belonged. Some of them were from well off and decent families but they never felt heard. He made women feel special and beautiful and wanted. That then he was very charming, didn't look the way that he has recently.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He could play guitar. People were very interested in him, women especially. I was living at the beach with my sister and she came home and said to go down to a friend's house, which I did and Charlie was there. And he was playing the guitar and so I was introduced to him there.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That night we slept together. I felt really loved by him almost immediately. Mostly because I think at that point, I was really desperate. He bought a place that used to be a rundown movie that actually it's called Spawn Ranch, I think is how you say it. And he had all the Manson family members live there with him.
Starting point is 00:07:21 There were really intense rules in the Manson family. He banned books, watches, clocks, and calendars. He refused to let any members in the family wear glasses. He really wanted his family members to see the world around them without the pressures of society. He was very much against societal, structured, Hollywood, fame, and money, that whole, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He was all about them seeing like natural beauty and removing all of the distractions. Another way he had them see natural beauty is acid which personally I've never tripped acid before but I've talked to a lot of people who have and apparently it's just incredibly beautiful. Everything looks nicer prettier I mean if you're having a good trip of course but everything is more like vivid and you can end up feeling really positive and powerful. And the Manson family cult literally did hundreds of drug trips together.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Charles Manson, I think, at first really did want just like a family and wanted some control and some love, you know, to fill those voids, but eventually it turned into such a power thing for him. Like, he became the leader and the king of his little cult. He got obviously more extreme as time went on about that. He started developing very strange ideals and fears. He ended up with a lot of paranoia.
Starting point is 00:08:36 He was really into the Beatles. In fact, the whole group is into the Beatles. If you don't know much about the Beatles, their hippie movement was like so big. It was so like on edge back then that it was like embraced by kind of the outsider group. With the Beatles, he got specifically really into the song, Helter Skeleton.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Let's Skeleton! Let's Skeleton! Let's Skeleton! Let's Skeleton! Let's Skeleton! Let's Skeleton! The Helter Skeleton to him kind of took on a new meaning. He described Helter's Skelter as like an incoming war.
Starting point is 00:09:10 That was going to happen. He was sure, he was almost acting as if he was a prophet. He became very interested in the book of revelations, the Bible, about the end of the world. He was all about the apocalypse, the world's going to end, Armageddon, type deal. Started to really use that as a power with all of his followers, started kind of scaring them. And all of them are pretty delusional.
Starting point is 00:09:31 They thought that the Beatles were also fans of them. One time they even didn't interview with Rolling Stone magazine. And during the interview they were like demanding that the producers call the Beatles for them. And like it was really bizarre. They really thought they had this like crazy connection to the Beatles and then the Beatles music was all encoded with these messages like directly to them. It was super super bizarre stuff. And they also had a very strange connection to the Beach Boys,
Starting point is 00:09:57 which I don't think most people know about this. So Dennis Wilson, one of the Beach Boys members, in early 1968, Dennis invited two girls back to his house with him. The girls that he picked up were part of the Manson family and they ended up bringing him back to Charles Manson. And Charles always wished he, his music, because he was very in the music and he was talented. And he always won his music to become famous. He won become a famous singer-songwriter.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So when he came across Dennis Wilson, who was a successful guy with all his connections, he was very interested in him. And at first, Dennis was like super into it. He started making connections for him. They started writing music together. He introduced him to a record producer. I don't know why I never learned not to love you. record producer. And apparently they had produced an album with 10 different songs on it.
Starting point is 00:11:00 They hadn't spent tons of time together working on this album. They never went anywhere. You still can't find it to this day. And eventually Manson felt kind of betrayed or wronged by this record producer that was working on this record for them and freaked out. I got to fight with Dennis. When they decided it wasn't going to work out
Starting point is 00:11:17 and Dennis decided to bail on the project. And at one point, Manson grabbed a bullet and showed it to Dennis and said, every time you look at it, I want you to know how nice it is that your kids are safe. Basically, friend, his whole family, and Dennis was not having any of that. He freaked out, beat the shit out of Charles Manson, dude. Wilson left the album blew up, nothing ever happened with it. He said he never wanted to see Charles Manson or be involved in the Manson family again.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And after that, he refused to even talk about the whole situation. So interesting little side note there. But that is what really made Manson so angry, but like lit the fuse even more than it already was, especially with his hatred towards Hollywood and musicians and successful people. And you know, just just mainstream I guess. DQ presents Picture this. You're getting together with all your best friends. Now picture all your best friends are actually the delicious ingredients of the new
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Starting point is 00:13:32 and paranoid, was just slowly going more and more and staying. And at one point, one of Manson's family cult members was named Tex. That was his nickname. And he ended up scamming a black drug dealer. His name was Bernard Crown, but he was known on the streets as lots of pop-up. He earned him for money and on July
Starting point is 00:13:50 1st, he threatened them. He threatened the whole man's and family. So then Charles Man's and himself went to his apartment and shot him. He actually did not kill this guy, but he thought he did. The next day, he heard a news report about a Black Panther member which the Black Panther movement was really big during this time. There was a lot of racial tension in the country. It's similar to how it is now. But anyway, the news report of that a Black Panther member was shot and killed and he thought it had to have been a lots of papa and it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So he got really paranoid. He started thinking the whole Black Panther movement was going gonna come after him because he started seeing it as like My cult versus their cult like he didn't understand what the movement was or and he just thought it was like teams And they were gonna strike back to him So he got really paranoid about it and that's when he really had his most racist time So I really talking about a race war the imminent race war that was just gonna happen eventually and it would be Armageddon for the whole planet. On August 9th of 1969, Manson went to some of his female followers and Cole members who were living with him. Woke them up in the middle of the night and said you need to go with texts, text being the other member, his side, I guess, and do everything that he says.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And this is when the Manson murders began. These girls were so into him and would do anything that he said and he knew that. And so he took advantage of it because he wanted people dead, but he didn't want to do it himself. So he didn't even go to the murder scenes. And that's why to this day, even though he was convicted of murder and life in prison, he never himself killed anybody, which is just interesting to know.
Starting point is 00:15:29 He had these girls and texts basically do it all for him. And this was to officially begin Haltor's Skelter. I was in the car with texts and Linda, Kassabian, and Susan Adkins. And he said, do everything the text says. He gave them an address and told them to kill everyone that was there. There were four people at this house that night. The actress Sharon Tate, wife of movie director Roman Polanski and eight months pregnant, was at home with her friends,
Starting point is 00:15:58 the hairstylist Jay Sebring, coffee-errorist Abigail Fulger, and Roman's friend, Boy Tech Freckowski. A young man named Stephen Parrot, was also on the site. All the people at this house lost their lives that night. I don't want to get too much into the whole murder because it's very graphic, but everyone was ordered to have some part in it, even some of the girls who got freaked out. Tex Watson went on to the property first.
Starting point is 00:16:22 When he came upon Stephen Parrot in his car, he shot him four times. Then she said, I think he likely went to a window or something. He turned to a front door and allowed the rest of us to enter. There was an attempt to tie everyone up. Abigail Folger was tied up long with the rest of them. She started trying to get away. She started to run out of the house.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And one of the female cult members chased her down and stabbed her in the back a ton of times. I ran after her with an upraised knife and we went out through a back door out onto the lawn and I started stabbing her. I ran her down and I began to stab her. I remember her saying, I'm already dead. It was awful. It was really, really brutal, especially for the time and they took
Starting point is 00:17:10 their blood and wrote on the walls with it, death to pigs. They wrote on the refrigerator, wrote Helter Skeleton there too and it was just extremely brutal. Next morning when the maid came to work and obviously came across a horrible scene. And Rowan Plantski, who was famous in Hollywood, was also accused of killing his wife. Everyone thought it was him for a while, and he went through hell. He was just a weird dude though.
Starting point is 00:17:33 So it was kind of an easy person to blame, but the cult got away with it at first. Literally the next evening, Manson decided to send the same group of people plus two other members with text to another address and was ordered to kill everyone there. And this was the home of a supermarket executive. And his name was Leno L'Abianka
Starting point is 00:17:54 and his wife was Rosemary L'Abianka. The Manson family arrived at the house, went in and killed them both brutally, stabbing them tons of times. Text turned me around and handed me the knife and he said do something because Manson had told him to make sure that all of us got our hands dirty. And I stabbed Mrs. Lobby-Anca in the lower back
Starting point is 00:18:16 about 16 times. Another just brutal killing wrote on the walls again, a very similar style to the way they did before, and then they left. Seen at the lobbyicus was no less macabre than that at the Tate House, and on the walls, written in their blood, were the words, death to pigs, and rise,
Starting point is 00:18:37 and on the refrigerator door, the words, Helter Skeletor. And so when this broke, people were like, so freaked out, like, these must be connected, but at first, investigators treated it as two separate cases
Starting point is 00:18:48 completely. They thought that the second one was just a copycat case, which is where someone sees another murder happen. It gets like inspired by the way they did it, and they go out and they do the same thing. Not the case, these were definitely connected and definitely was carried out by the same people. So they thought they got away with it.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And it wasn't until August 12th of 1969 that they were all arrested for a grand theft auto. They had several stolen cars. So that's what they first brought them in for. But interestingly enough, they were released because of mistakes in the warrant. On August 26th, the family actually killed one of their own members because they thought he was a snitch.
Starting point is 00:19:24 His name was Donald the Shay. And interestingly enough, a family actually killed one of their own members because they thought he was a snitch. His name was Donald the Shay. And interestingly enough, a dorm mate of one of the Manson members overheard her talking about the whole thing and killing him and stuff and she reported to the police. Once she was in custody, she started talking about everything they had done. The lobbyon commander, Sharon Tate, everything in jail. And her stories were retold by other inmates that listened to her and they told the police probably to get some type of plea barbed in or something.
Starting point is 00:19:52 That's what really enraged the whole thing. After that, they arrested all the rest that were involved. They were able to connect them to both of those murders with DNA evidence and formats after the crimes were committed. They were finally charged. Now, this became such a huge topic of debate because Manson himself never killed anybody, but he forced these people to do it. He's the cult leader. So what responsibility does he have? And there are people to this day that think he's innocent and should be let go.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I just don't think people quite understand that just because you didn't commit the murder yourself doesn't mean you're off the hook Um, and that's what Manson kind of thought like I just have everyone else do this for me I don't get in trouble, but he did and court was a disaster and and such a Spectacle for the whole country that was watching prosecutors really went after Manson also for his words of wine to start a race war, his hatred towards a black panther movement, and that's what they really used in their defense. He tried to claim that he was innocent throughout the whole thing, and he completely orchestrated. He still had control over the women after this.
Starting point is 00:20:59 He would tell them what to do. There was bizarre times where he would make them jump around inside of the courtroom or have a fake panic attack or something or an exorcism almost. During the trial, as in their lies before, the three women took all their instructions from Lansing. The entire proceedings were scripted by Charlie. Every day we'd meet and he'd decide, well, today,
Starting point is 00:21:21 I want you each to stand up and hold your hands in some stupid symbols. You're going to get up and scream. You know, each day was scripted and that day we proceeded through the events. With man and he believed that everything we did was creating some picture that was going to go out in the universe and somehow change it towards his bend and towards his will. as well. He even got so angry at one time that he even launched himself 10 feet towards the judge. One point he decided to carve an X into his forehead to symbolize his removal from society that he was no longer part of society and the girls he made the girls wet as well. He literally all all carved access into their foreheads during the trial.
Starting point is 00:22:05 President Richard Nixon spoke of Charles Manson in a speech on August 3rd. Here is a man who was guilty, directly or indirectly, eight murders without reason. Here is a man yet who, as far as the coverages, concerned, appeared to be rather aglambless. But in January 1970, everyone was, everyone that was being prosecuted was declared guilty,
Starting point is 00:22:32 even Manson, given life in prison, all of that. Jury found each defendant guilty of conspiracy to commit murder and murder in the first degree. In a separate trial, Tex Watson was also found guilty and sentenced to death. And according to US court system, the man's and family killed eight people, but there's many reasons to believe they killed a lot more than that. There's a lot of other cases
Starting point is 00:22:55 out there that they believe might have been connected to them, but they had no way to prove it. So on the record, the man's and family killed eight people. And at first, Manson was given the death penalty and people were really angry about this. So they actually brought it back to court and it was eventually reduced down to life in prison. Every day I wake up and know that I'm a destroyer of the most precious thing which is life.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And living with that is the most difficult thing of all. And I do that because that's what I deserve, is to wake up every morning and know that. So, recently, November 19th of 2017, Charles Manson passed from natural causes. In his most recent prison mugshot, Charles Manson looks every bit the crazed killer and cult leader who shocked and fascinated America
Starting point is 00:23:42 in the late 1960s. Most famous victim was actress Sharon Tate, the 26 year old pregnant wife of director Roman Polanski. That is gonna be it for me today, guys. Thank you for joining me for another episode and make sure you follow the show on Spotify and Apple podcasts. It really does help me out.
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