Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash - Daycare Terrors

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Daycare - what the hell would we do without this glorious organisation that helps give parents all across the world their weekly relief? Although, as much as we love her, she's not without her pains. Matt has to battle tantrums, tears and parking inspectors just to make it to his drop off (what a hero). Ash has to deal with his kids guilting the hell out of him - those cunning little gremlins will even cry fake tears with their faces pushed up against the fence railing in the hope that they get to spend another day at home. Does it work... absolutely. We share your best Ordinary Parenting stories as well as have a crack at answering your listener questions: Any advice to help kids brush their teeth ? What are your thoughts on a double pram - genius idea or huge mistake?   Also, get early access to Budgy Smugglers Black Friday with a 25% discount site wide by using the code twodotingdads at the checkout! Follow @twodotingdads on Instagram here. Or slide into our DM's with any parenting question you need answered by a couple of doting dads.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oh, that's quite a pleasant little blow. That's what she said. Welcome back to Two Doting Dads. I am Matty J. And I'm Ash. This is a podcast that is all about parenting. It's the good, the bad. And the relatable.

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Perfect. Great. Ash, I'm a bit frazzled. A bit frazzled at the moment. Why? I just had a bit of an emotional drop off this morning. An emotional? Yeah.

I hope you're okay. Yeah, everyone was not good. No one was good. Everybody was a little bit emotional this morning. What, even the teachers? No, the teachers were fine. It was more so. I was like, yeah, not again.

Not Lola and Marley. Now, I have a tricky daycare in that there is only one spot that you can park. What? It's on a main road opposite the daycare. There's a high school right in the mornings it's fucking it's peak it's peak hour you got people going to work you got people dropping off the kids at the high school you got parents dropping off the kids the daycare and there's only one car park available it's like a 10-15 minute like quick car park at the very front of our

daycare so where does everyone else go? I don't know, dude. I don't know how they do it. I had a secret little car spot that was in an alleyway that was maybe a five minute walk. And now that one's been taken up. So every morning, just the anxiety of like, I don't know how I'm going to do this. I don't know where I'm going to park. Will I walk 50 meters?

Will I walk a kilometer? I don't know. And it really does. Just park at home, mate. Walk yourself there. It's literally gotten to the point where I've thought I'm parked almost closer to my house now than I am to the actual daycare. That's why I wanted to get one of those electric bikes so I can just. With the cargo thing in the front. There's a guy that cruises around like near our place now with one.

Next time I see him, I'll be like, hey, I know this guy. this guy wants one of them i don't think he's electric because it's quite flat the kindy's where we are it's quite flat man this is a swamp it's very it's very hilly so this morning obviously had to record the last thing i wanted to do ash was be late for you because i know how that makes you annoyed and an annoyed ash is not good for anyone. Don't make this about me, mate. So I was like, okay, time is running out. Traffic was bad. It was banked up. I was like, I need to make this.

You just told the kids to jump out of 40K. It's 40 for a reason. Wound down Marley's window and like threw it. There you go. But I was like, screw it. I'm going to park in a no stopping zone. Nice. Going to do it.

Has to be done. I don't like to break the rules, Ash, but every now and then. You got to. You got to do it. So anyway, get there, pull up. And I'm like, fuck. Nervous already? Oh, yeah.

I'm also the kind of person that when i was younger whenever i did anything naughty there was always like someone watching oh yeah like if i always get sprung if i was like breaking the rules turn around there's always a teacher there who would catch me right hand it was just always that cunt that gets away with everything too you know you have that one friend always gets away with everything not me i'd sneeze and they'd be like illegal lock him up fellas detention so anyway i'm trying to get the kids out of the car making it quick and then lola's at the age now where she's got like a little bag she brings her knickknacks and she dropped her bag of knickknacks on the floor so like all of a sudden there's like

dummies there's toys there's and i'm like forget about it. In the car on the floor. On the floor. And so she's like, I've got to get it, daddy. And I'm like, fuck, okay. Like I'm watching. No man left behind. And then after like, it must have been like three minutes, time's ticking.

Marley's also out of the car. She's waiting there. Finally, I get Lola out of the car, take about five steps, and I look up. Parking cop. Yeah. Fuck off. Yeah.

Two of them. Two of them. What were they doing? Having their morning coffee. And you've driven a crime directly to them. I'm surrounded at this point. Get down on the ground. And I was like, oh, man.

And I was in that moment, i made a split second decision i was like do i just say hey guys book me fuck it just book me just tell them it's the kindy company vehicle just like just drop the fine in there yeah but then i i start then like reverse walking and i'm getting back in the car and I was like. With the kids? Yeah, and I'm like, I can't. It's 200 bucks, dude, and no stopping. Do they not show any mercy and be like, mate,

we know that you're going through it right now. You've got two kids. Just you're a single dad. Dude, these are parking inspectors. They have no mercy. No, that's why they have that fucking job. He was licking his lips and he was like, I'm gonna enjoy this i'm gonna double up the fine on this he had like he was walking towards me with a half erection yeah flipping the night

hey you going there son good one you rent and then i'm like i'm like marley get back in the car and marley's like what do you mean like very confusing for the kids yeah because they're like what would i can see daycare i like, get back in the car. Throw them back in. I almost didn't even do the seatbelts up because I thought like, do I just speed off? But anyway, he had a quick word with me and he's like, you can't park there.

And I was like, I know I can't park there. Just tell him to fuck off. You got to find a place to park. And I'm like, look around. Look around. There's nowhere at all. Will you take my kids into kindy for me? Take them.

They should do a drop-off, like a drive-through service. Okay, no one steal my idea. This is my idea. It's like a Macca's drive-through situation. You drive in. Someone opens the back door. The kids get ushered out. You don't have to say bye if you don't want,

depending on what sort of car ride you have on the way there. The door shuts, they go into kindy, you're off, gone. I saw this the other day. Like a valet. At the high school, right? That's what they do because it's so busy, right? They have, I'm guessing, the year 12 students. They stand there with high vis on.

As your car pulls up, the students open the door and let the kids out and they then close the door and usher the kids into the school. Genius. It's a well-run operation. I've never heard of that. I've never seen it before in my life. They need to have that for daycares. Yeah, but maybe not another child getting my child out like maybe a like an adult a worker a toddler

welcome ash welcome so anyway i had to put the kids back in the car dig your strapping back in yeah yeah of course this is not a visual medium had to do another loop and traffic was backed up so it took me like 15 minutes to do a loop where i can get back in and where then i was like fuck i just need to make this quick and you you feel bad i know you'll say you'll sit there and you'll go no i never feel guilty but when you're like okay see here's your bag here's your water bottle i've got to go bye and lola's like one more hug and i'm like hey one more hug. And I'm like, hey, one more hug. Oh, yeah.

She's like, one more kiss. And I'm like, I don't have time for this. And then you're like, also, there's this little brick wall where Marley likes to walk along it. Always walks on this brick wall. Everything's a fucking game. Jesus. I know.

Just get to kindy now. I was like, you're not walking across the wall. And she's in tears. And then you feel guilty that that moment where you say goodbye yeah you yelling at the kids so yeah very frazzled so they were they were just off it yeah they were off it and you just got the hell out of there and like of course molly spots like a little flower that she wants to pick up but then you get a photo of them and they're like they're having the happiest day of their fucking life i know oh did you get a photo and they're

not happy no they were just crying in the corner oh no okay that reminds me of oscar's sad boy day the other day remember so we had been away we got back and oscar goes to two different kindergartens one's like all the older kids and then the other one's like a mixture but logistically i don't know why, but they do. Everybody does. And he likes the one on the Monday, Tuesday. He doesn't like the one on the Wednesday. It's not that he doesn't like it. He just likes the other one more because it's all bigger kids and there's no little kids. And so we'd been away.

Then we came back on the Monday, Tuesday. He went to the one he really likes. And then I tried to take him on the Wednesday to the one he didn't like. And as soon as he wakes up and he goes, what kindy is it and you're like do you lie do you just lie i don't lie there because there's two options when you come out of the driveway the way he wants to go and the way he doesn't want to go and he knows and he knows so it's like i might as well just rip the band-aid off real early and try and smooth him into it anyway the other day he just wasn't having it so slow i even said look we'll

tell you what we'll go a little bit late and i'll have popper pick you up really early so you'll only be there for a couple hours you'll see the one or two people that you play with there that you like does he respond to that does he all the other kids are probably listening what do you mean he doesn't like us and he's like not really having it and whatever and then got there, pulled out the front and because it was a bit later, the kids were already out in the playground area, which is awesome. They're already playing. I'm like, that's a good sign because they're going on the slide. They're pushing cars down the slide.

And one of the kids he plays with all the time was right there and he goes, Oscar's back. And I'm like, I fucking love you, kid. The dream. Perfect. It's like I planted him there to do that slip me 10 bucks yeah thank you mate and then oscar was like he perked up a little bit i'm like great okay this is not going to be so bad we walked in he's seen the teachers worked out that i'm going

to leave and then i said i'll come out in the playground with you and play the girls were working they're like yeah we'll just go out and go out the side there and go meet up with chase and he usually plays with this with chase it's the other key it should be name names doesn't really matter you get out there and eventually i've managed to give him a last cuddle go back out to the car and because the car is at the fence i went to get in the car and he's up against the fence and he's just bawling but he's not he's not hysterical like he's not like i don't want to be here he's just sad boy which is almost way worse yeah because it's like he was proper hurting oh and i was like what'd you do i just got the car and drove away

no no no i actually he's looking it's really awkward no i actually as i was getting in the car and i looked over to the through the passenger window and there he is and he's i'm like what sort of person am i right now open the door went back out went to the edge of the fence i was like buddy it's gonna be okay like and he was just so sad and i was like he just wants his daddy anyway i went back into the kindy and i was like come out here with me but we'll come have a cuddle and like i took him around to where it was nice and quiet to try and get some sense out of him for him to be like you know and he was just so sad and he calmed down but he was just so sad and he was like i just don't want to be here i said okay these are your options

that is such a good tool it's like hey you have option a or option b yeah yeah yeah so option a was you can stay at kindy for a very minimal amount of time before i send popper in at like lunchtime to come and get you i I just have work to do this morning. And mum's at work. That's option A. And option B is that you come home with me and I've got to lock in the laundry for the whole day. No, I never said that.

I never said that. In my head, I was like, oh my God, this is the most empathetic and caring that Ash has ever been. No, no, no, no. I didn't say that. I said, look, if you come – I said, you come home with me, but I'm considering this that you're sick. You'll come home.

We won't be playing. Daddy's got to do some work. Mummy's working as well. You'll have to just watch TV. You'll have lunch. Really quiet day. We won't be going out to the park won't be doing all this stuff you can play with like you know like the quiet toy do some drawing stuff but you can't be i want to go out to

a park now daddy because you've played me at the kindergarten and he was like i want to come home i was like okay you can come home with me oh shit yeah so i said all right and then i've texted after saying guess who's still in the car he swindled you i thought that too he played you like a flute no i thought that too but he honestly all day and i've never seen him like this barely moved off the couch he was sitting there he was playing with some toys this watching tv go play some games on his phone was he getting sick do you think no no because he did he went to kindy the next day okay so and here's another thing too which i'll give the kindy props for in a sec he actually understood that i had to work so

i even sat next to him my headphones on listening to and editing stuff and he was there and he was just quiet yeah just a weird kid for one day in the afternoon he got a bit antsy but as they do yeah but the kindy rang up to check on him oh that's it was really nice she was like oh is there anything we can do for tomorrow so he's gonna be comfortable tomorrow and we'll like to ask her what would you like to play with tomorrow he's like i want to play with transformers and she's like i'll make sure i have all the transformers in the place ready that's awesome and we'll do it we'll put it up so you guys can see how we play with the transform yeah so there you go he's like i want to be delivered by a helicopter

into the backyard like please help me dad's locked me in the laundry the washing machine's really scary i said to him the other day i said you actually fit perfectly in that washing machine no you no ash he just laughed okay he knows that it's a big ongoing joke now because he knows the dryer is much scarier and both of them will fit in there at the same time just when the listeners are going oh my god this guy's actually really really there he is brings it right back but i thought that was you get a mixed bag with the day we talk about it a lot on this podcast daycare and stuff was, you get a mixed bag with the daycare. We talk about it a lot on this podcast, daycare and stuff like that. We get a mixed bag.

I would hate to be in that situation. So I'm going to bring you home with me. Yeah, it's always, and it's tough. Marley's just started doing it as well. The Thursday is the daddy day. And then she'll wake up in the morning and the very first question, it doesn't matter how many times you kind of preempt her the night before and like let her know that okay this is a tuesday wednesday is going to be a day k day then thursday so you got a few more sleeps we like try and drill it into her and like

give her perspective of like when it's going to be the daddy day every morning wakes up and she's like hang on a second is today the daddy day or today day k day and i'm like i'll like i don't want to lead her on yeah you just your best off just be like, you've got to go today. Because, you know, there's a couple of days of the week where like April's actually got a job. This is a job somehow. But like I went busy enough and it's like, buddy, I just can't. And this was like one of those days where it's like I had so many emails

that have been away and I was like, I'm just going to have to juggle it. Except the only time that kind of didn't really work in my favor was at the moment Marley still comes into our bed at 3.30 in the morning and she just loves to kick everyone. I can kind of sleep through it. Laura gets woken up and she's like, I'll go into Marley's room. So it's just me and Marley in bed. And it actually was daddy day.

I got my days mixed up. So it's a Thursday morning. Wait a minute. A parent got their days mixed up? But it must have been that it was really, it was like 3.30, 4 in the morning. No one's really thinking. And I also was so disoriented. I didn't know what time it was.

And Marley's like, is it a daycare day? Andcare day and i was like yep fortunately it is a daycare day today no and then she's all like she was expecting it to be the daddy day so she flips out runs out the room and i fall back asleep not worried at all i hear like laura being like matt can we get this kid i'm like sorry about that ash before we go into ordinary parent yes there's a message that i want to flag with you and it didn't make so we've done nothing okay cool didn't make sense to me i was a bit confused so a dad has written in and he says currently the time of writing this message it's 2 50 a.m why did no one tell me that babies make so many fucking loud noises whilst they're sleeping a heads up would have

been great i can relate totally what do you mean obviously you're talking like newborn yeah i mean the only noise that i can think of is when- They scream. Yeah. When they're sleeping. When they're sleeping. Yeah. I mean, Oscar was so noisy. Like when we- We bring him home from the hospital. And first of all, we all were in the same room because that's, you know, that's what's advised. You had the cot next to the bed.

Next to the bed. First of all, we were like, fuck, because it was winter. We're like, fuck, we didn't realize how cold our our house was well that particular room was like old unit old windows blah blah blah people who live in like a ducted air-conditioned house or apartment so lucky god you don't know how good you've got it we had that with macy but it was a summer baby but we had air conditioning and oh it was great this place is like fucking living in a poor house. But the old place, like the windows, so all the windows were like rattly and stuff like that. But we didn't realize that the room was so cold to start off with

and we're like, he's shivering. Lips are purple, man. Not good for a newborn. So, we all moved to the lounge room because it was a bit warmer, a bit more insulated. Like nice, bigger curtains. It was nice and insulated for everybody. Question regarding that though.

What about when is the issue with sunlight coming in? Is it too bright in the living room? No, no. It was quiet. We had these big shutters. You could like give it the bender treatment and black it out. Turn the oven on and really make it warm. Don't worry, honey.

I got this sorted. Anyway, so we all slept in there for the first two weeks. But yes, he was like up and down all night. But when he was asleep, he was just like he had all these weird ticks, like... I was like, what the fuck is with this kid? Someone left the timer on? But I've had friends as well have been like, yeah, fuck,

this is so noisy. Really? It's so weird. From there, we're like, all right we i think we upgraded our heater and we all moved back to the bedroom but we're like let's get this fucking kid out of here because people come over like guests and they're like hey ash and april good to see you and you're just like april's asleep on like the couch like where did you guys where were you sleeping in the living room did you all on the lounge we were on the lounge and the cot was like on the lounge at the time we had like a 14 seater

lounge it was great took up the whole living room space but it was like so like twice the size of this so we could all fit it was all fine and the dog but oscar was so noisy then we all moved back and i was like nah this kid's got to get out of here he's too noisy so then we moved him back in the living room we know we had a second bedroom and we like made it so it was warm enough completely soundproof so we couldn't hear it but he was like real yeah just i don't know i suppose like they spend what nine months in water yeah they're coming out and they're like kick like when they're in the kicking they probably make yeah like they definitely make like weird sleepy noises like i had no but i've had

friends as well that have said the same thing maybe you just got one of those kids that only screams in their sleep yeah yeah no it was uh for lol it was either either she was screaming like she was in pure agony or she was comatose. It was no in between. Do they sleep talk or anything? Now? Marley does now. Because I suppose it's like the baby version of sleep talking, right?

Yeah. Because they're alive, they're active, their brain's like continuously growing, I suppose, when they're sleeping. The wires are still trying to connect up. But like I know oscar now he like sleep laughs sleep screams he's shocking the only time like before we go to bed we do one last little check on the kids and marley is such a wriggler that quite often she'll be like right on the edge if not like already on the floor she falls out a lot yeah downstairs and we'll just hear

this i'll go put her back in bed and as you put her back into like the middle of the bed she'll on the floor. Because she falls out a lot. Yeah, yeah. We're downstairs and we'll just hear this. I'll go put her back in bed. And as you put her back into like the middle of the bed, she'll be like, I don't want to ride the pony. And you're like, what? The clown has no business. The unicorn's flowers are broken. Yeah, so I would say like, look, I think it's not widely talked about.

Maybe it needs to be more talked about. It's like, great, yeah, they're going to- First, they're going to scream themselves to sleep just about, but then when they're asleep, they're going to make all sorts of noises. I do know it's annoying. Like Buster, for example, he'll sometimes come into our bedroom and he'll just be there going- Licking his nuts. Licking his absolute red rocket that's always that is very

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Do you guys have any advice to help my toddler brush their teeth? Pin them down. Next question. Brushing teeth, it's bloody hard. My kids love it. Brushing their teeth? Yeah. What are you using for toothpaste?

Chocolate. No, no. I don't know. They just love it. I don't know. They can't get enough of it. Really? You've been blessed.

My kids absolutely hate their teeth being brushed. It is one of the most frustrating parts. It's like when you're trying to brush a dog's teeth. Oh, yeah. It's like faces like doing everything you can to avoid. Do you let them try and do it themselves though? Yeah, but they do such a crap job. Yeah, but this is the trick.

Here we go. What do you got? This is the trick. What do you got? Get them the trick. What do you got? Get them used to having in their mouth on their own accord and then you can even brush your teeth along with them and then they can teach themselves. Oh, like father like son like daughter.

No, like April like son. I haven't brushed my teeth in about 15 years. Okay, well, I found something, Ash. You've got something. I found something that I think will make it a little bit easier for parents to brush their kids' teeth. What do you got? This right here.

Is that a little electric toothbrush? That is, no. No, it looks like it. If you want to give this a little go, Ash, you can. I'm not putting it in my mouth. No, no, no, don't use it. Don't use it to. Can I turn that fucking thing off?

Well, that's the only problem is that you can't turn it off. But you're meant to brush your teeth for as long as the music plays. That's too long. It's a very long time. Still? Yeah. No wonder you kids don't like to brush their teeth. They've been tortured.

They've been forced. That's, um, that, ah, look. Oh, is it a different song? It keeps going. How long? I haven't showered for that long. The kids love it, mate. Hey.

Oh, my God. Let me. hey oh my god let me we can't finish the show because of this fucking toothbrush there needs to be an off button but kids love it kids are into it there's no way there's no way it's two minutes way you're brushing your teeth. Two minutes? Yeah. Don't touch it again. Okay. Put it in your pocket. It's still going.

It's like on The Simpsons when the doorbell stays on. I can still hear it that's my advice fail well okay what a great investment go with uh what i said and pin them down next question all right all right i have a 20 monthold and I'm two months pregnant with my second. Do I need a double pram? Can I just say very good reading from you, Matt? I am 900 months old. It took us eight minutes to get that question out. Sorry.

What was it again? Pram. Double pram. Does she need a double pram? Yeah, dude. 100%. I feel so passionately about this oh there you go I sometimes get fixated on like certain things like for example when it came time to getting a leaf blower man

I researched like I was just really into knowing like how many leaf blowers were out there like what the wattage was like the battery life and it was the same what'd you end up with leaf blower wise yeah I got the uh ryobi 12 volt it was like before we answer the continue to answer the question because there's something i wanted to talk to you about that i now own a power tool oh can i show you congratulations quickly let me take a sec bring it in bring it in that is um i don't want to judge the size of your tool but that's pathetic and it's the um it's the autos brand is it it's like look look turn it on give it a bell look this is where i'm at okay

it's not how big this is how you use it first of all but i'm now a proud owner of a power tool it's my very first power tool i went to bunnings to buy it this is not a bunnings plug by the way and i was like oh just get something cheap it's just to do the garage and the back i don't have much to do so i went and i bought the blower didn't do any research got home realized that you've also got to buy the battery and stuff separately. That's the problem with that. I know. And it cost me as much as the expensive one in the end.

The Ozito. Ozito, mate. Anyway, what do you reckon? Yeah, terrible. Does this make me a man or? I mean, it's getting there. It's like going through puberty. You've got like three pubes that have sprouted.

You want to get one of, I almost went the like petrol powered, like the one you put on your back. You've got like no back area for that. The order was like, we need to reign this right in. But anyway. Sorry, I wanted to bring that up. As soon as you said flower, I wanted to show it. You like ran out.

I was like my pride and joy. I felt the same about pram. I did a lot of research. With a double pr pram because there's a lot of options ash you can get the ones that are stacked on top of each other like a two-story bus or you can get the side by side the double decker the sidecar very confusing a lot of conflicting reports out there because i put some stuff on stories this is before lola was born and some parents were like the two stack amazing others were like no you want the side by side but the people were like the side by side is too wide you can't get down i'm against it the whole no okay and this is not okay right the bugaboo donkey

oh we don't all have bugaboo money there champ says the guy who's going out buying power tools One power tool I own And is it even considered a power tool? No So I I just I wonder what it would be like If I put my dick in the end of that thing Okay Let's get your mind

No okay Anyway You're like it's my first power tool You've got that many fleshlights upstairs I'm against the double pram Here is why One You take up too much fucking footpath

And you're wrangling that thing around You get right of way Everybody gets out of your way Yeah but that's the problem That's the Get the fuck out of my way I've got You know

I'm as important as you So if you have to take Both kids to the park How do you Scooter baby On the back Attached Oscar's riding along

Keeping Macy entertained. Nice. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Dude, Marley, I go around a corner. Marley keeps forgetting to hold on. Well, that is- She whips out. I get to the park.

It comes down to education. I get to the park and I'm like, where the hell has Marley gone? It comes down to education. You need to educate her and say, hold on tight. Hold on tight. Okay. Also, coming back from the park, doing groceries the two car how do you fit down there how do you fit down the aisle with that thing man just bulldoze my way through

get out of my way part of the problem coming through part of the problem so we bought one april was like what do you got what pram no no i don't have it anymore we didn't last that long because i was like this is the biggest waste of fucking space that we have. We bought it, used it twice, realized it's just an absolute pain in the ass, moved on. So what's in the single pram? What have you got? I've just got, well, we barely even use it.

Now we're riding around on bikes. I put kids in the back of my electric bike. I've got April on the bike too.car's bad out of hell on his scooter look i would say don't get one waste of time amber who's written in okay you have a choice right now you can listen to ash which is the right choice or you can listen to myself it's entirely up to you but i am don't be a burden on society and get a double pram i'm telling you right now if you get a double pram you will never you'll never regret it it is the best investment you'll ever make think about it won't impact her because she'll make the dad push it no think about how often you're going to be spending time with both these kids

in the pram you want one that is going to be like it's got a good turning circle it's got great bearings just stick with the single okay you don't have to worry about any of those things because the single does it all just when i thought we were best friends we agreed on everything nope you come out with this awful viewpoint on prams i think like we've got a travel single pram and a normal single pram we don't use either of them now because the kids, like Macy wants to get up and run. I get she's going to have a newborn. Do you have a yo-yo? No.

I get she's going to have a newborn, probably going to be most likely strapped to her sometimes, maybe strapped to dad sometimes. I feel like the double pram is something that's like the good ones, expensive. I agree with you. If you're going to get one, get the fucking good one. I agree with you if you're gonna get one get the fucking good one i agree with you on that point but also very expensive for what they are buy another car how can you put a

price on your children ash that's that's what i don't understand are they gonna eat this week or not make a choice i'm hungry shut up and get in that double pram. Anyway. All right. On that note. That's all we have time for today. Let's wrap it up. It's been a pleasure. As always.

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