Two Hot Takes - 166: Trying to Have a Good Time.. Ft. Zane and Heath Unfiltered
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Ready.
We are rolling.
Mic's hot.
All right.
Ready to go.
I'm ready.
We're ready.
I'm so excited to have you guys today.
Yeah, thank you for having us.
I have been doing a little research, like looking up the lore and you guys have been on YouTube for a little bit.
And then I was like looking up your podcast description and this cracked me up.
Oh, we haven't changed it since we put it.
Oh, no, please. Oh, is this like one that we have for our show?
It's the IMBD one. I don't think you guys did it.
Oh, okay. No, no.
Zayn and Heath Unfiltered, a weekly podcast from YouTube sensations Zayn and Heath,
two uneducated Florida boys with strong opinions and nothing to back it up. Zane and Heath unfiltered, a weekly podcast from YouTube sensations, Zane and Heath, two
uneducated Florida boys with strong opinions and nothing to back it up.
Do we have strong opinions?
I don't know.
Well, we definitely don't have anything to back it up.
Did you guys write that or is that IMBD like giving us synopsis?
No, somebody that we know wrote that a long time ago.
When we-
Yeah, somebody that worked like worked for the show, our friend, we just didn't know what to say.
So we just try to make it as shocking as possible.
We didn't want to be held accountable for anything we said.
So we thought that would protect us.
And it hasn't.
No.
Yeah. I don't think most people don't even know what that intro exists.
A lot of things we say aren't factual.
So we just don't want to be held to that standard.
I should start saying that about this show.
They're all opinions.
But we should definitely just like,
we don't need an intro.
If they want to know who we are,
they can listen to an episode.
Yeah.
Give us an hour and a half of your time
and you'll find out.
After we're done, we should just delete that one.
Yeah, thanks for bringing it up.
We'll get rid of it.
No, it's so good.
I loved it.
It's what sold me.
Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay, cool. I was like, bringing it up. We'll get rid of it. No, it's so good. I loved it. It's what sold me.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, cool.
I was like, this sounds fun.
And then I listened to an episode and like,
you guys are just like, you just want to have a good time.
Yeah.
That's the vibe I get.
Like we talked, oh, not we,
but you guys talked about like the little
cereal cup bowl thing that someone,
are you TikTok shoppers?
He's addicted.
I'm not addicted to TikTok shop. I've bought maybe like three, four things since it's all started, like are you TikTok shoppers? He's addicted. I'm not addicted to TikTok shop.
I've bought maybe like three, four things
since it's all started, like the whole TikTok shop.
I'm really bad.
Nobody ever admits to addiction.
I'm really bad with it.
And it's just too easy.
So I need the link for the cereal cup
you were talking about.
Absolutely, yeah.
It sounded really good.
Or you know, TikTok is so easy.
You just type in cereal cup
and it'll be the first thing on the top.
Cereal cup, TikTok shop.
And do you guys always buy it through the link
that you found it on?
Like the- No.
Yeah, I don't even- I go find it on Amazon myself.
You don't wanna give them the referral?
I don't wanna give them that coupon or whatever it is.
Okay. If they give a good review,
then I'll help them out.
But if it's some bullshit ass, like the flosser ones,
the kid's like, look, this works.
And he spit out a bunch of dirt and it wasn't a joke.
I was like, okay, I actually need a flosser,
but I'm not gonna buy through this.
Like, cause it was, he's obviously lying.
I will say I am very upset because I used to go to TikTok
all the time to like look up genuine reviews of products.
And it used to be people just doing it for, you know,
the sake of talking about the product.
And you would get like an honest review. Yeah.
And now anytime I do it, it's just like people getting paid on the side from like referral codes or whatever and I just don't trust it.
Very convoluted now.
You have to go back to YouTube for those reviews now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I am a, I'm an avid Amazon purchaser. That's where my, my money goes.
I love that.
Okay. Well, let's get into this theme today. Just trying to have a good time.
Yeah.
She is chill.
I love how soft-smoking you are.
Yes.
Very pleasing to the ear.
Okay, good.
Our voices are not, so sorry for everybody listening.
No, you have beautiful voices.
Thank you.
Beautiful.
I'm gonna try headphones.
Oh.
I wanna hear her voice.
Especially during the reading. Yeah, I feel. Oh. I want to hear her voice. Especially during the reading.
Yeah, I feel like I want to.
Today, we are going to be going over a couple topics.
Hear it through the viewers.
They're like, flippable.
All right, I'm strapped in. Okay, so this first one, it's coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit, three
days old, titled, I accidentally got into bed with my father-in-law.
Hot.
My father-in-law is staying with us for a few days. We gave him our room while he's here.
It's bigger and we just felt it's the right thing to do.
Last night he went to bed and my wife and I were downstairs watching TV and drinking.
She went up a while later too, and I said I'd be up soon.
I was getting
pretty tipsy at this point.
As I went upstairs, sleepiness and my tipsy state meant I forgot that my father-in-law
was in our room. I entered the room and got naked, which is how I sleep. I saw a figure
curled up in bed and got next to it, wrapping my arms around what I thought was my wife to see if she was up for sex.
He's a light sleeper and turned around immediately, saying, quote, Chris? Oh my fucking
God. I jumped out and fell to the floor. It was dark, and for some reason, I decided to get dressed
there rather than just run to the guest room where my wife was. I stumbled over my clothes and somehow
got them back on. By the time he got the table lamp on and was just looking to the guest room where my wife was. I stumbled over my clothes and somehow got them back on.
By the time he got the table lamp on
and was just looking at me with a what the fuck expression.
I said sorry and went to my wife.
I didn't wake her up.
I just got up this morning and I'm typing this in bed
with a massive hangover and a father-in-law
who I tried to spoon,
probably talking shit about me to my wife downstairs.
I have to go downstairs at some point.
Any idea what to do or how to address it?
Before we continue.
I'm, I was so confused by the story because I thought I was hearing it from the
girls perspective, but it sounds like I'm hearing from the guys.
So he got into bed with, with the father-in-law, a guy.
I feel like you can at least you can smell that it's not your wife.
Yeah. It's so...
I think you can easily...
If I'm climbing into bed, I can smell if it's either you or my wife.
I don't even have to get into bed.
You got enough wine in you with my back turned,
show a little shoulder, you might not catch it.
Yeah, but you know, the hairs and shit, I would kind of see it. You know, I would... But it's dark in there. It was pitch black by the sounds catch it. You know the hairs and shit. I would kind of see it.
It's dark in there. It was pitch black by the sounds of it.
Wine drunk, right?
The damage is done.
No mention of the type of liquor. It's pretty tipsy.
You said the damage is... Do you think it's over for everybody?
Irrecoverable.
You think so?
No. Divorce. Yeah, it's... Divorce.
Yeah, that's the end of the road right there.
No, genuine advice.
I really would have no idea what to do in this situation.
It's kind of one of those things you don't know until you're in it.
Luckily, it's not like super, super horrible.
I mean, I would feel more uncomfortable if it was the mother-in-law.
Yeah.
So, he got lucky on that.
He did.
Genuine, honest mistake, you know?
I won't say it happens, cause it doesn't.
But I mean, it also depends on how aggressive he was
with making the moves, you know?
I mean-
That does matter.
Spooned up, if you're reaching around trying to,
I mean, you wake up to that.
That's pretty startling.
Well, also like, what if he went in there with a boner and then the guy felt it on his back.
That's another thing.
That's assault.
That's the contact we need in this.
I feel like you got to play it off and just be like,
hey John, really sorry about last night.
I guess this is why we shouldn't give you our room.
Guest bedroom next time buddy.
And I think it all depends on the person too.
The person that like climbed into bed,
like what type of person is he?
Is he always doing this type of shit?
Is this gonna be a risk in the future?
Does he have a history of disloyalty?
You know what I mean?
I think it all depends on the type of person.
Like I feel like if that happened to me,
I think very quickly I would have,
we would have all been able to get over it.
We would have laughed about it, ha ha, and then that's it.
Yeah. My dad would have been that way too.
Like my dad has such a crude sexual sense of humor.
He would have just rolled over and been like,
what, you want a kiss?
Like he would have like fucked with my fiance in a way.
And so I don't think this is that big of a deal
depending on who they are.
Yeah, just crack a joke.
It's kind of harmless.
You gotta laugh about it.
Mother-in-law, I think a little bit more serious.
And I don't think the husband would have been very happy
about that at all.
It would have taken him a little bit of time
to get over that.
Yeah, yeah.
Top comment, walk into the room, kiss your wife,
and ask if he wants a morning kiss too after last night.
It's a good way to joke it off.
You gotta go in lighthearted.
Can't be too embarrassed, you know, stuff happens.
But if you're keeping it silent,
especially the first 10 minutes of seeing each other,
what's really going on?
It's gonna seem like he was making an advance on him.
Yeah, yeah, you gotta play it off. Otherwise Otherwise it doesn't seem like the accident it was.
In any situation like that too, any situation like that where you think it's someone else,
immediately you got to tell everybody around you.
Have you ever done something similar?
No.
No?
No, not at all.
Oh, no, I have. I have. I have. With David Alvarez.
Oh, this is pretty funny. No, I have. I have. I have. With David Alvarez.
Oh, this is pretty funny. So we were at a birthday party and we were at a venue that was very,
it's just very dark. I'm also drunk.
And I thought I was kissing another girl, not my girlfriend, just another girl.
Okay.
And ended up being my friend's girlfriend.
Oh no.
Did he care? Well, I immediately apologized.
As soon as I saw it wasn't her,
I freaked out, immediately apologized,
but he definitely laughed it off.
He was like, Zane, you're an idiot.
Okay, yeah.
But yeah, I think he brings that up
at least once a month.
Yeah, for sure. Really?
I think that means it cuts deep. once a month. Yeah. Really?
I think that means it cuts deep.
He played it off.
When you overly joke about it.
I don't know.
Sensing a little jealousy, you know?
Something's up with it.
He's definitely a little hurt.
Maybe she talks about that kiss.
Maybe.
I don't know.
We should get us in a podcast and we should talk about it.
Yeah, they should.
Because we have not talked about that publicly yet.
They should open up about that. Yeah.
There you go.
Now you got another episode.
Am I the problem?
You might be.
I mean, you're the one that did it.
You can write in on our subreddit.
Okay.
Oh, like, I'd be like anonymous.
You should make that entry.
Yeah, you could.
Give it a shot.
Okay, moving along to the next one.
You recently got engaged, Heath, didn't you?
I did.
Congratulations. Thank you very much.
We have a lot, it's like wedding season
and engagement season right now.
So we've got a lot of those today.
But this next one, her fiance is a little odd.
It's coming from tuhatics subreddit titled,
my fiance is upset with me over how I rejected another man
during a night out.
How she rejected him.
Okay.
My fiance and I are both in our 30s.
We've been together for four years, getting married in a few months.
I totally adore him and I think we have a good relationship overall.
We go out a lot because we both love music.
We have a great community of friends and we see them pretty often at shows.
We were at a show last night and I was standing with a girlfriend while my fiancé was outside with a few guys.
For context, I was very much a weird girl in high school, but from my mid-20s on,
I'd say I'm pretty conventionally attractive. On an average night out to hear music,
I generally get approached or hear passing comments from men three to five times.
Frankly, I'm 33 and it's not something I find very fun or enjoyable anymore. When men are polite
about it, I am too, and polite dudes usually take my gentle rejection well and so that's not an issue
usually. However, that was not the case last night. A guy approached my friend and pointed at me,
saying something I couldn't hear.
My friend shakes her head at him and says, no.
He seemingly not willing to take the hint,
comes over to me and says, quote,
my friend wants your autograph
and points to a guy over by the bar.
I laugh because what the fuck?
I said, what?
And he repeated himself.
My friend wants your autograph because you're very pretty.
I said, no, thanks. I'm good. He asked a third time. My internal polite response clock had run
out. I said, okay, $60 cash or cash up. He looks surprised and then sort of laughs and says,
how about we buy you a drink? And I said, hmm, price just went up to a hundred dollars. You
still want it? And he
shook his head and went back to his friend at the bar.
My girlfriend and I had a laugh about what a totally bizarre way to hit on someone that
was, and that was that. Later in the night, when we were all together again after the
show, my friend told everyone the story. My fiance got really quiet and was kind of standoffish
the rest of the night. When we got home, he asked why I hadn't told him about that interaction.
Honestly, he has gotten a bit insecure in the past about these things, and we had specifically
agreed I would avoid telling him about dudes hitting on me.
So I reminded him of that.
He was still really quiet and sulky, and eventually I asked him what was going on.
He said he didn't like how I handled it. He said it sounded like I was flirting
and egging the guy on with my responses. Long story short, we argued about it. We do not see
eye to eye on it, and things still kind of feel tense today, but we haven't discussed it further.
I understand my fiance struggles with anxiety and can get insecure and worried.
I always want to do what I can to support him
and remind him I love him,
but I don't think I did anything wrong here.
Was my response flirty or inappropriate?
In my eyes, I was intentionally fucking with a guy
who is being pushy and disrespectful,
and I'm 100% okay with that.
First of all, can we take a second?
Both of these entries are so well written.
I could never.
It's her.
Are you rewording these to sound really nice?
I do reword stuff on the fly.
Oh, that's good.
Okay.
I try to read real fast.
They sound so good.
Do you want to take this or do you want me to take this?
Yeah, I'll take it.
First off, she told him that she would never tell him about any guy coming up to her because
he probably doesn't feel good about it.
This probably happened in the past where he probably got aggressive or walked away or
was just mad about it the whole night when she can't help it.
If she's a pretty girl, guys are going to come up to her.
She can't help it.
Yeah, it is't help it. If she's a pretty girl, guys are gonna come up to her. She can't help it. Yeah, it is what it is.
If there's a guy that's asked more than two, three times
for a certain thing and she says no,
and he continues to do it, I think at that point,
she has every right to do it in whatever way she finds fun.
That to me was not flirty at all.
To me, that was like an, like it was an asshole move,
which I think what she was trying to be was an asshole,
right? At that point, like kind of like,
not difficult, but just like,
like fuck you. Yeah.
Yeah. Like fuck off.
Like give me some money or quit wasting my time.
Fuck off. Like it was, it was, to me,
it felt like a Blanton, fuck you.
Like get away.
Like you want my autograph?
That's the weirdest pickup line I've ever heard.
Like price went up to a hundred dollars.
And if he did, that's the thing.
If he did have like a hundred lots, what, right there.
Then she might've been fucked.
She would've been fucked.
She probably would've denied it.
I could see her deny it.
First of all, just goes to show the guy
didn't want her that bad.
60 bucks, that's the deal.
I will say, I can understand how it can come off as flirtatious hearing the story.
Why wouldn't you just be like, no, I'm engaged, bye.
It kind of egged it on in a way if you hear the story like that, obviously.
He would know his fiance best and the way I guess it could have been said.
I get it though, nobody wants to hear really, if your partner is being hit on constantly,
it's just like a, okay, you want to be informed,
but at the same time when you are informed,
you still kind of get like frustrated about it.
So I get where he's coming from for that.
And then also her being like,
well, I just didn't want to come off
as like rubbing it in your face type thing.
So I totally understand that.
And it's just, it's kind of disrespectful.
You can bring it up to, if you get a hit on like quickly,
for you to go to your boyfriend and say that,
that guy over there just hit on me.
Just hit on me.
What do you want him to do about it?
It's like his reaction.
Unless he like slapped your ass or something,
that's when you should like notify your boyfriend,
hey, he just like, he just touched me.
Just want to let you know that.
Yeah, assaulted me.
But there's no harm in somebody coming up to somebody
and saying that they're pretty
or asking for their phone number or something
and then saying no and walking away.
Yeah.
It's not like if I want to know that or not.
I just don't need to know that because it's unimportant.
It's literally a part of life.
Yeah.
And it's like ignorance is bliss too.
That's why they agreed together. I'm not going to bring this up to you
because it doesn't make you feel good.
It makes you feel insecure.
And that is tough.
Like if he's insecure and kind of feels
like he's in this position of like he outkicked his coverage
and his girlfriend's way hotter or fiance, whatever,
is way hotter than what he thinks he's worthy of,
any guy could be a threat.
And like, that's exhausting.
So no, why would she tell you?
And it was inconsequential.
He walked away, went back to the bar, done.
The friend only brought it up because she found it funny.
Like, and it was such an odd pickup line.
But it wasn't meant to be this like big ordeal.
I'm also the same, like regardless of even if I felt
like in her position, if she felt like she was right,
she thinks his reaction is wrong.
I'm also the person in the relationship to be like,
I personally didn't think so at the time
and I did not mean for it to come across that way at all.
If you think that that crossed the line
or came across a certain way, I will never do that again. And I'm sorry that I upset you for that and I will handle it differently
moving forward.
Yeah.
Regardless. I could be like, you know what? I didn't think it was that bad, but it made
my partner feel that way. And I would never want them to feel that again.
Or I'd be like, just ask for more money next time, baby. And just split it with me.
Yeah, right. A thousand bucks.
There's the angel and the devil on the shoulders, right?
Is the two of you?
Yeah.
I think that would be a really healthy response, especially like they're getting married.
Yeah.
This is going to be something that is going to continue to happen.
I mean, she said it happens three to five times a night when they go out.
That's why he should just lock her in the room and never let her leave and go out.
I think you just avoid it at all costs, right?
I think that's the best approach.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I'm so one to just communicate it out
and be like, let's avoid this
and never have this happen again.
Yeah.
So the top comment, I liked your wording here.
Internal polite response clock has run out.
And that is like a good point too.
Like when you're telling someone like, no, not interested and they don't take no for
an answer, you have your friend advocating for you probably saying, no, she's, she's
engaged or whatever it is.
Like they're not taking the hint.
It's like, okay, at that point, like, fuck it, let's, let's go nuclear.
My fuck budget just hit zero, baby.
There's a bunch of other comments, people kind of being like,
well, you didn't have to handle it that way. It was immature.
So OP does give us some edits.
Okay, y'all, goodness.
Just want to add in two things because they're being mentioned a lot.
First, my fiance is a great dude.
He is smart and fun and supportive in a million different ways.
He is self-aware and he knows he's a bit anxious
and struggles with insecurity.
He's working on it.
At the same time, I do have empathy
about the discomfort of seeing your partner
get hit on a bunch.
It also makes me uncomfortable for the record.
Second, and I've discussed this with my fiance
and he has expressed no issues with it,
I don't know and I never have used my relationship status to reject men.
If I say no, that's enough of an answer and if they don't respect that on its own,
without my tie to another man, that's a problem. Also, I'm clearly wearing an engagement ring.
If a guy approaches me, they either didn't care to look or saw and didn't give a hoot.
And I do get her point.
It is frustrating to have to be like, oh, well, I have a boyfriend.
And it's like a guy will respect that more so than just a no.
Almost like the territory.
Like, I'm not going to step on another guy's territory.
But then again, a lot of guys are like, just because there's a goalie doesn't mean you
can't like that type of-
There's some of those out there for sure.
Or it might like encourage them more to think that like...
I don't know. People are weird.
But yeah, I get the whole fact like just no means no regardless of being like...
Also sometimes I feel like the relationship thing could be like a cop-out answer.
Which a lot of people use I feel.
Yeah, I mean there's girls like it's a big thing now to wear engagement rings out to the bar,
to like have an excuse to be just like, I'm engaged,
even though they're not, and they're actually single.
And as soon as they see a guy they like,
they go, whoop, take it off.
It's good tactic.
But that looks down a bad too.
Imagine you're looking at a girl all night,
you're like, oh, she's married,
and then she takes her off.
Literally.
And then you go for a walk, talk to her,
and I'm like, what?
This happened to a friend of mine.
She was at Runyon and ran into this guy
and she was wearing a graduation ring from her dad
on her ring finger.
And the guy kept looking at her and her hands
and they really had this crazy chemistry
on the hiking trail.
And she ran in him again,
he didn't ask for her number that day.
She ran in him again a week or two later and he was like, Hey,
I noticed you're not wearing that ring today. Like I was going to hit on you last time,
but notice you had a, you know, an engagement ring. She's like, Oh my God,
is that why you didn't ask me? So she almost blew her shot. Wow. Yeah.
Like what are the odds you run into the same person twice at Runyon? Like it was crazy.
Runyon is, I don't understand. How is he, is he following her?
Like how, how, how, how is he?
Happenstance.
I go to Runyon all the time.
You're not really next to anybody the whole time.
You're, you're pretty, you either walk past them.
You're not making yourself.
Nobody wants to be hit on a fucking while they're hiking.
It's like the last.
Honestly, at Runyon.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
It doesn't seem like it.
I feel like girls go to Runyon and they pop off.
Like that is...
To me, it's like the gym.
It's like nobody wants to be bothered at the gym.
Runyon's a different thing, especially if you have a dog.
It's more of a scene.
It's a place to like meet people.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Yeah.
I take that back.
I mean, I've seen like one of my other friends met Oprah at Runyon.
No way.
And she like commented on her dog
and then they got a pic.
It was a crazy interaction.
And now they're married.
Yeah, her and Oprah.
Did she give her a car?
No, God, she should have.
That'd be one hell of a look.
She really should have.
No, you guys should go to Runyon.
Oprah's giving out cars at Runyon.
Oh my God, that might be a good strategy though
to get some good press for the pog.
Kind of cool.
But I do see her point, back to this before we move on.
I do see her point where like a no from you should be enough,
but hey, you got the ring, use it to your advantage.
You have to talk less, less fucks to give.
Sorry, I'm engaged.
Yeah.
Like I get the principle of what you're doing.
And if you really don't want to share
your relationship status, you do you, but it is
a lot quicker.
It is.
And you get rid of them faster.
I think engaged is like the best one.
I think engaged is stronger than married and boyfriend and girlfriend.
Really?
Yeah, because engaged is fresh.
It's new.
I'm excited.
Leave me alone.
I know.
Because married, it's like, you've been married for how long?
Maybe you're kind of sick of the relationship.
Maybe I do have a chance.
Interesting.
That is so interesting.
And I can, I completely could see it.
Yeah.
My fiance, he's like, I don't want to get married.
Like being able to say fiance just sounds so cool.
Like he does want to get married,
but just like he loves the label fiance versus, oh my wife.
But I also feel like a little embarrassed saying it sometimes.
Really?
It's like...
Does it feel braggy?
A little bit.
Sometimes it comes, I feel the same.
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I'm not trying to show off.
Yeah, it's almost like a, okay.
I feel like every time I've used it, it's been like, not in an unnecessary way, but it's just like a detail that's like too much to where it's like, okay.
Like we got it.
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This next one is coming from am I the asshole
It's a doozy of a title
Am I the asshole for being truthful with my friends when telling them I won't go on a weekend away
Because I don't want to talk about marriage slash babies for three days
To me already, I don't want to talk about marriage slash babies for three days.
To me already, I don't think I'm going.
It's almost like you don't want to be like a third wheel. It really depends on the people.
You know what I mean?
I got to see how they are with their kids.
I just want to, I want to feel the vibe.
There's a whole vibe, right?
Definitely.
Cause there's some nasty, nasty kids out there
and there's times where I would not want
to be on a trip with them. So it all depends.
Hit a baby.
Hit a baby.
I'm not scared to hit a kid.
I, 27, female, have a group of friends, eight of us,
and we have been friends for over a decade, since school.
Now we don't live in the same place,
but we meet up a couple times of year for a weekend in an Airbnb.
This used to be a weekend of good food,
drinks, hot tubs, etc. I am content with my life at the moment. I am single, dating, and I don't
know if I would like children. But in the event I did, I know I wouldn't want one soon. Around
five of my friends, five out of the eight, are either married or in very long-term relationships.
5 out of the 8 are either married or in very long-term relationships. Of these 5, 2 either have a baby or are pregnant.
I will be seeing all of my friends this year for various weddings, friend, slash baby events.
I have been invited on this year's girls trip.
I have said I can't come.
I didn't originally provide a reason.
When queried in person by my friend, who is pregnant, I told her the truth.
I am not going because it's a massive financial expense for three days where we only talk
about people's upcoming engagements, weddings, babies.
I have a lot going on, but I feel a lot of my friends do not show an interest unless
I talk about someone I'm dating.
I also, last time, listened to one of my friends talk
about her breastfeeding plans with vengeance for over an hour. She is not pregnant or even trying.
Truthfully, it's boring and it feels dismissive. It's also a really expensive way to feel bad
about myself. I made it clear when telling my friends this that I am thrilled for them all
living the lives they want,
but maybe it's not the weekend for me at the moment.
Meaning, it feels like the group has two distinct life stages.
I'm in the minority and it focuses on one stage.
My friend has since told me she's really hurt, and I'm not excited for her or our other friends.
I responded saying, I evidently was, from other actions, excited for them,
but I just think this trip wasn't for me. I do have numerous other things going on,
and to fit this in both my calendar and financially, it's a struggle.
I just want to add for this friend specifically, I have gone on three weekends away for her
wedding and I am flying to go to her baby shower all in the last two years.
I have not asked her nor has she wanted to fly to see me for anything in the last two years.
So my question is, am I the asshole for being truthful with the reason why I can't go?
No, no, absolutely not.
No.
No, especially now that like it's been kind of like a one-sided relationship.
I mean, I think she's doing the best for herself.
And if I was in her position, I probably wouldn't go either.
Because I'm kind of like in her position right now.
And if I knew that all my friends, that's all they're going to talk about.
If I knew that, I probably wouldn't either.
Just for my own like... Mental health. Yeah. I probably wouldn't either just for my own, like mental health.
Yeah. I'd be like, maybe next time.
Yeah, I get it. I mean, trips like that obviously are a lot of money to like,
you know, you use your time off or whatever to go do these trips. And I mean,
I totally get her. You don't have to.
I feel like people feel like they have to do things like that they don't really
want to do. Yeah.
Just to make other people happy.
And it's okay to say no to things.
It's okay to do what you want.
Yeah, don't go on the trip.
Save the money.
If they wanna come out and see you, come out and see you.
And yeah.
I've been learning to say no a lot lately.
I would say in the past year,
even like a sliver of no, like 10% no,
I'm just like,
you know what? I'm going to pass on this. Unless I'm not feeling a hundred for it.
Not about it. God, I feel so honored you're here today now. Wow.
You almost canceled. No, no, no, no. If your ass was in like Culver city, I don't know.
No, it's the location. We're close. We're neighbors.
Yeah.
No.
The location is everything. I would say yes to everything if it was in my neighborhood.
In your backyard. Yeah. No, I get that. Especially LA, getting across town is hard.
I initially read this and I was like, okay, well, you know, two out of the eight are pregnant or have a kid.
There's still six other people
that are kind of in your boats, no kids.
But then like hearing how much effort our OP
has put into traveling for weddings and baby showers.
Like she traveled three weekends
and is now traveling for a baby shower for this one friend.
That's insane.
And I think it is pretty common in friend groups.
And it's now starting to be talked about.
If you're the single friend and all of your friends
are kind of in other stages as you,
you're getting them wedding gifts.
You're flying, you're buying your bridesmaids dress.
You're getting them baby shower gifts.
Where's the single friend getting accommodated
for moving into their own apartment or getting a new job?
Like you don't have those, those typically normal things
to celebrate your single friend.
And so it's like, it's always the single friends
dishing out money for these people
for like normal life events.
That's a really good way to think about it.
I never thought of it about it like that
from a singles perspective.
It would be frustrating.
It would be really frustrating.
And I don't blame her. It's
Celebrate the single people. Yeah, I just don't know what how do we celebrate them?
Three years of that not having a boyfriend girlfriend like okay
Like you're like you're powerful. You are you are independent. Where's my independence party? Yeah
Then let's throw you an independence party. I love that. July 4th.
I was gonna say July 4th.
July 4th, celebrate all the single people.
Independence day for America
and our single friends out there.
Very good.
I love that.
Let's make something for you.
How do we start that?
You heard it here, guys.
You heard it here.
Independence day.
Let's start next month.
Any of your single friends who have not been dating
for more than a year, and their year's about to hit next
month, do a big ass celebration.
It would mean so much to them.
And then, then they'll start buying all those tickets
and flights and all that bullshit to all your weddings and.
Yeah.
All that stuff.
Then there's some give and take,
but there hasn't been give and take.
And like hearing about one person talk about breastfeeding
for an hour when they're not even pregnant or trying,
oh, haven't you been in one of those conversations
where you're with your friend and you're like,
can we move on?
We really gotta move on.
It's all they know what to talk about.
But it's hard when you're in those conversations
that it's just like, okay, this is really like not relatable.
It's not going anywhere.
We're talking in circles.
And you don't wanna be rude, but at the same time, like, okay, we get it. Especially when there's alcohol involved.
And like, you really just, you're just talking. How are you talking about breastfeeding and
titty milk while you're drunk? I feel like that's the last thing you're thinking about,
like feeding your baby when you're drunk. Yeah. It's probably, it's probably not a good mix.
A lot of people pump and dump, but apparently you don't necessarily have
to anymore.
So says.
Pump and dump is when it's from nip to mouth or is it from nip to bottle?
You pump it into a bottle.
Yeah.
Or like whatever the storage units that the breast pumps have like attached.
But a lot of people after they have a lot of alcohol in their system, they have to pump to like cleanse it
so the baby doesn't get drunk.
So they say, I'm not, I don't know.
I don't have kids, haven't gotten there.
This is why they talk about it for an hour.
Cause there's so much you can do.
I had no idea.
I mean, it is interesting, but I get the frustration.
I was a little scared where the comments were going to go.
Though. What do you, what do you think the vote is
on this one?
So I think it's gonna be...
I think they're gonna take the girl's side.
Majority in favor of this girl needs to do what she feels right.
Especially when it's so exhausting, when you feel like you go above and beyond for everybody else and it's not reciprocated.
You get tired of it and you're like,
I feel like all I do is give and give and give.
And when you don't see it in return, you're like kind of at your breaking point.
Yeah.
Can I say something? It's also really easy to see it from their point of view too.
I've noticed that we're always agreeing with the person writing it, but who knows what's going on on the other end of the stories.
Yeah.
I know that's the whole point of it.
No, no, no. And I could see like,
because when I first read it,
I didn't get all the way through
because I was just like,
initial scan to make sure it's at least decent enough
for an episode.
And I so I stopped reading after I was like,
okay, it's good enough.
And initially I was like,
well, that's kind of,
it's kind of selfish.
Cause like, in a sense, like,
yeah, you're just not at the same stage as them,
but like you're also almost in a sense, like not yeah, you're just not at the same stage as them, but like, you're also almost in a sense,
like not being as good of a friend by like,
just not going because you don't want to hear them
talking about their kid.
Yeah.
Like, they do have kids now.
How can you all come together to make it a balance?
You're not even giving them the opportunity to like,
address it and be like, hey, I don't have kids.
I feel like the past trips have been very engagement, wedding,
kid centered. Can we make this more fun?
Can we like kind of have a rule where we keep that tone down?
Yeah. But you also don't want to be the person that is like,
guys are not going to talk about kids. They're not going to.
It's like, if you feel like you're going to be annoyed and it's best for you to
sit it out, then sit it out.
Yeah.
You know, it does start fights. Like as soon as you have a thought like that where,
hey, can we do this trip like a little fun?
Oh, the last one wasn't fun.
True.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Last one wasn't up to your standard.
We all had fun.
Sounds like you're the only odd man.
Maybe you're the problem.
I'm sorry that this is part of my life right now
and I have kids and I'm excited to talk about it.
You're so right.
Yeah, you can't.
It's so exhausting what,
like we will get in fights over
with people.
You just have to surround yourself,
surround people that's like similar to you,
like your interests.
And I mean, that's the only way.
And you have to do it without like starting any fights.
I know.
You just have to.
God, it's so hard.
I feel like that's why so many friendships end.
Like, especially in that, like that time of the life
when you were getting married and shit
is because you're not, you can't like relate anymore to, but your friends are.
Yeah. Like Zane doesn't want to be friends with me anymore because we're engaged now
and we're going to be getting married and moving to Tennessee.
And we're in Tennessee, Nashville.
So we're going to be like just outside of Chattanooga, whatever the F that place is.
He's going to be in the middle of nowhere.
That is a little far Nashville. I love Nashville. I can live there. But Chattanooga, I don't know.
It's like two hours or so from Nashville.
Wifi doesn't exist over there.
That's far.
I don't know how he's going to post his Instagram stories out there and his content.
They got coffee shots with wifi.
And internet cafe.
I know, but you're not going to need it if you have kids.
You don't need wifi when you have kids, right?
I don't know. It depends on if you want an iPad baby or not.
Just start over.
Oh, I love iPad babies.
Get them to show up.
Put them in a corner.
Look at that screen.
Creating a monster.
No, I can't stand that stuff.
You know who are iPad babies?
All of us.
I didn't have an iPad.
No, right now.
Oh yeah.
We're iPad babies.
Yeah, I do feel a little stunted.
That we're iPad kids?
Yeah, iPad, 100%. The time I spent on my phone I checked. It's like 36 hours on my phone.
A screen time?
Yeah.
In one day.
In one week.
Oh my God.
In one week, 36 hours.
That's pretty intense.
That's borderline full-time job.
That is, yeah.
Yeah.
A 40 hour work week. Wow. It's crazy.
But we work from our phones.
We do.
A little bit of an excuse.
We're not working when we go through TikTok.
We're not working.
We're pulling inspiration.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm doing research.
So top comment on this one.
Not the asshole.
Because the real issue here is different from how it seems.
On the surface, this seems like it's just about engagements,
weddings, and babies.
You go out of your way to be constantly supportive of them.
However, they don't reciprocate that for you.
They can't relate to anything
or want to relate to anything outside of their lives.
It would sort of be like if you had just won an award,
but all they talked about
was the pie they just ate that morning.
OP responds,
maybe I spent 13 weekends last year
traveling, including transport and hotels for this group's big events. And I am happy
for them. That said, it's a massive financial outlay. I am expected to attend and they are
not interested in mine. They were all invited to my birthday recently and said they were
too busy from work slash had plans with partners too busy being married
To come to the city for a night even though accommodation was free
That's really that's crazy. We needed that context in the original pose like easy off the bat. No conversation needed not the asshole
13 weekends. There's only 52 weeks a year. That's what?
math wise there are no
math 25% yeah I I can't that's a lot I want the bride and groom to start having
to pay for everybody should if they want them to go on to this fucking expensive
ass trip dude I think that's got that she's gotten crazy also weddings are
absurdly expensive that that's why I'm doing it on my farm.
I'm just like saving on the venue at least
and we're just having food trucks.
But I think that shit has gotten crazy.
Like you should not have to go to four events
for one couple getting married.
An engagement party, a bridal shower,
a bachelor or bachelorette trip,
and then the actual wedding.
Don't forget the reception or not the reception,
the rehearsal dinner before.
And all that risk for 60% divorce rate.
Come on now.
All that for a 60% divorce rate.
That's like, if you look at it from a business perspective,
it's not very smart.
The risk is way too high to spend,
to be spending all this money
for one night. Put that money in some stocks. Exactly. Get a house. Yeah. Robin Hood. That's it.
These weddings are houses. Like full houses. Some people really go crazy. There was one that
went super viral on TikTok for a while. And it turns out she spent like 4 million for her wedding
in Paris. And then her fiance is like getting a felony in Texas and he wasn't even supposed to go
to Paris.
No way.
Oh yeah.
And then she took down all the wedding videos.
It was crazy TikTok drama.
Oof.
And they didn't have the money to bail him out because they just spent $4 million on that
wedding.
That's absurd.
Yeah.
So our OP does provide us a little bit of an update here.
Okay. Thank you all for the responses and comments.
Just a few things to note in response to some of the general themes of response.
I do show an interest in their weddings, engagements, babies and baby plans.
I am excited for them. I text about it. I ask for updates. I go to and help plan events for
these things. My issue is, three days of talking this, like it's the only topic of substance,
is not fun, especially when I don't feel an interest is reciprocated to me on my life.
We don't need anything else and there's still three more bullet points.
It's easy to show interest back when they're showing interest in anything that you have
going on in your, you know, in your single life. You know what I mean? If, if they show
interest and anything they say is just easier to like, you'll probably want to stop, stop talking interest and anything they say, it's just easier to like,
you'll probably wanna stop talking about yourself
because they're doing such a good job
in showing interest in what you have to say
where you just like, you know what,
I'm gonna focus on them the rest of the time.
So it's definitely no reciprocation for sure.
No, and that's just, oh, it feels so terrible.
And point number two, this is where it gets juicy.
I have spoken to one of my other friends
invited on the trip,
who is also not at the baby stage of life.
She is also not going on the trip and she said she is not attending for the same reason.
Feels good when you have it back up.
Three, the friend I expressed this to has apologized for her initial reaction and is still trying to convince me to come.
I am not going to go, but I'm hoping she at least considers what I've shared. Four, I do have other friends in the city I live
in and they are a joy to be in the company of. Maybe this is because we became friends
as adults and have more similar lifestyles. Who knows? Finally, some comments about me
being jealous, hating myself, hating my life, etc. To confirm dear strangers on the internet,
I am content.
Thank you for the concern though.
Whoever said that was fucking nuts, first of all.
She's 27.
She's being single at 27 is like, that's normal.
Normal, yeah.
Like, people are here.
Yeah, I think the whole approach to it and reasoning,
I mean, if you're going into it, just being like,
I just don't wanna hear what you guys have to talk about because that's what stage you're at
at life. And like, if that was the only reason, I'd be like, ah, well, I mean, they're your friends.
Just, just hear them out. Just listen and just be excited, whatever. But everything else on top of
that, I think should be what's driving this argument. Yeah. She just wants to have a good time.
And if you already know you're not going to have a good time. And if you already know you're not gonna have a good time,
you're essentially spending a lot of money
to have a bad time.
Yeah.
Where does that math add up?
It doesn't.
Save that money.
Save that money.
So you pay for my flight then?
Yeah, you guys, you married people,
you got dual incomes, let's do a fund.
How bad do you want me to be there?
Yeah, pay for my ticket.
I'm flying four times in the past two years
for you and your wedding and babies.
Make this make sense.
Where's my present?
For me, Ashley.
Yeah.
I wonder if any of these girls ever see these Reddit posts.
I was just thinking about that a couple minutes ago.
Yes. They do?
Yeah, I've done a whole theme where we have like two sides
and like the husband writes in bitching about the wife
and then the wife finds it and shares her side and it's the
Most fun. It's so good.
Do you think they're like still fine to this day after or like it's more kind of?
Some laugh about it depending on the problem. Some are like my husband's an idiot. Haha.
But some I think are like found it. We're done.
Or do you see them like comment under OP and be like,
Hi, it's your wife, Sarah here.
Yeah, we get that too.
Dang.
Reddit is...
I would be below, be like, what are you looking up, babe?
You got it.
You just got to be as broad as possible so people cannot pick it apart.
Yep.
Fake names, details changed.
Always.
Yeah.
Instead of three friends, say six friends, you know, just, you gotta change it up. Interesting Ashley, this story sounds a lot like
what we were just talking about.
Well, this next one, it would be pretty unfortunate
if the other party found it.
Uh oh.
Which one, the one you're about to say right now?
The one I'm about to read.
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So this one is coming from r slash Today I Fucked Up. It's titled, Today I Fucked Up, Telling My Boyfriend
That I Used to Almost Vomit While Giving Him a Blowjob
Because of His Odor.
That's pretty bad.
And he should not, he should not be upset about that.
That is hygiene, my dude.
I feel so bad.
Is that you?
I'm a stinky boy.
Yeah.
There's ways to go about things, man.
For her or for him?
For both parties.
I mean, he could fucking, he could at least clean down there.
Shouldn't be stinking like that.
It's as simple as being like, hey baby, by the way.
Your dick stinks.
Could you shower real quick?
I'm fine with doing this, but you
see you're a little bit sweaty and stinky right now?
She probably did.
We're going to tell you right now.
Oh, yeah.
She's going to tell us.
OK.
I feel so bad, but it's also sort of on him.
For most of our relationship, my boyfriend has had a strong odor in his crotch area.
The type most women would refuse to go down on. Fish, smegma, that type of smell.
Whoa.
I still go down on him because I do love giving blowjobs. And I know it's not because he flat out
doesn't wash himself. I know he takes showers regularly.
I will have him take a shower before I go down on him,
like directly before,
and it will still smell foul down there.
Interesting.
I have no idea how that's possible,
but I attune his smell to be because he is very overweight.
I have dropped so many hints, y'all,
and I told him flat out to take a shower before sex because I don't like the smell
I've even washed his crotch for him when we take pre-sex showers all of this
I have said gently
Milk are you milking him? No like a towel on his end and just fucking
Like a hacksaw.
What is it? The hacksaw.
But it has been a bit better lately.
This morning in bed, I sniffed his hand and jokingly gagged
and asked if he had been scratching his nuts,
which I can always smell on his hands.
Yuck, I know.
And he laughed and said, yes. After a few seconds, I said,
we've been dating for a while and you know, I like to be honest with you and proceeded
to tell him that I used to hold my breath during blow jobs because when I breathe, I'd
be close to throwing up.
He thinks he's making her choking gag.
Oh my God.
Okay. I mean, this doesn't seem like a shock.
It sounds like she's multiple times I've told them
that you stink.
So that's not like that big of a secret
that she was just holding her breath.
Yeah, no shit.
You think she was breathing it in just as.
I'm so, I'm a little nauseous over here.
Okay. So Matt, all right.
Matt was telling me how there's a thing there's a, there's a thing,
there's a disease that you can have where you smell like fish and you, it doesn't matter how
hard you scrub with soap. It does not.
Forget the name of it. I don't think that's there specifically. I think that's your whole body.
But what if, what if that's the start? Starts in his taint.
I know what you're thinking. Stop giving him head. What the fuck? I know, I know. It was just so hard for me to take the final step in letting him know how bad it was by
refusing to go down on him.
If I simply said I didn't want to give him head, he'd understand and never pressure
me, but I still didn't want to hurt his feelings.
Don't roast me too hard, please.
Anyways, he knew he smelled bad, but thought the showers helped completely.
He has left the room due to hurt feelings now. I feel like an asshole lol
I mean
This sounds like a medical issue. It does
I think I think the best route for both of them to go is for her is just because it's like it
You know, they're a couple and it could be nice
But they could both go to the doctor and just try to figure out what it is
It's gotta be some sort of like pH balance wipe for guys or something.
And that's what I'm wondering if it's a pH issue or like, honestly, maybe he has an untreated
STI because like smegma, like for those that don't really know what smegma is, it is a
thick, cheesy looking secretion around your genitals that collects when you don't wash them regularly.
It can be white or yellow.
It's a combination of oils from your sebaceous glands,
dead skin and cells.
So if he's got smegma.
I think it's a hygiene problem.
I can smell it.
Stop.
I can smell it.
It's like a little bit of both.
Like it feels like it's both
because she's even saying he's doing showers right before
sex, daily showers, and he still smells.
I know it's an imbalance of something.
I'm sure it's like a-
It could be diet too.
Or diet, yeah.
And like Grannad, she does mention-
Oily, fatty, nasty foods.
It could just be a lot of fried, yeah, oily stuff because like I had dairy last night
and like I can feel it.
Like I just like I don't do dairy ever and I just feel terrible today.
There are certain foods where like I will like my hands will smell after showering,
washing my hands.
It's just certain foods.
Certain foods you just have to avoid because it just your body doesn't, it just makes a
seep out of your skin and you just can't let it eat it.
Well it's like the meat sweats too.
If you have like a lot of meat and like you...
I would love to hear like what he's eating every day.
Like just like, is he eating a lot of meat, a lot of garlic?
Is he eating a lot of fish?
Like, who knows?
What if he's like his favorite thing to eat is just fucking fish,
breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Who knows?
I'm curious.
The only edit or update we have on the original post
is OP does share that he is circumcised,
which does help with the smegma
because I know for some people-
Get trapped in there.
Well, people that are not circumcised,
if they're not taught to pull back the skin and wash,
when it does pull back, it looks like cottage cheese.
I'm so sorry everyone.
We have a couple friends with that type of penis.
Hopefully they know how to wash properly.
I don't know. You'd be surprised.
I'm not seeing a lot of comments on this one. I think like, unfortunately, this might not be the best relationship for OP.
Well, if she keeps smelling fucking smegma
every time she goes down.
It's tough.
It's like, there's clearly something going on.
Especially these washing.
Yeah, it's something.
It seems like it's getting to the point for her
where she's like not even attracted to him anymore
because of this issue. And it's getting to the point for her where she's like not even attracted to him anymore because of this issue
and it's just pushing them apart and
Yeah, you know, I mean yeah at that point you make the decision I wonder if she says he smells up here
Or is it just down there?
It's got to be washed was thing wafting up there. Yeah, it would have to well the other problem is
Do you know like there's this stat where on average you touch like 10 dicks a day from people not washing their hands?
No way.
Yeah, so if you like touch a doorknob of like a house or a bathroom, like you probably just touched a dick from someone not washing their hands.
And so like she literally, he was smelling his hands or she got a whiff of his hands and it smelled like his crotch.
It's like you're rubbing your nuts
and then you don't wash your hands.
Like dudes going to the bathroom
and having that mindset of like,
well, I just touched myself.
Disgusting.
Wash your hands, you dirty, dirty piece.
Dirty pig.
But you know what I like to do?
I'd like to wash my hands before I touch my peach.
You should do both.
I feel like it should be a sandwich for guys, to be honest.
Because what if you just had hot sauce
and then you're gonna touch your dick
and then you get hot sauce on it?
I've accidentally maced myself twice or three times.
Mace twice, Tabasco sauce in the eyes once.
Not good.
So your urethra?
Would not like that at all.
You have like a mace on your keychain
that like kind of like went off a little bit.
I was testing it one time, maybe twice,
and then the wind took it.
Yeah, we did that with bear spray.
We were going on a hiking trip and I wanted to see if it worked.
It catches the wind quick.
Quick? You do and think so, and it shoots so far.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
It's intense. It's really intense.
Oh, and once the wind takes it, it'll just like go everywhere.
You don't know.
It shoots out in like a straight line.
But just those particles just being around it, it'll like choke you up and you'll just
start gagging.
It's really bad. Oh, it's so just terrible. No one should go through that unless they deserve it.
We should do that.
We should do that for our podcast.
Nobody should ever go through it unless they deserve it.
Muggers, bad people.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm not seeing comments about diet really.
There is kind of one that mentions
the smell is off and on.
It depends on what he's eaten and what he's done at work.
It's not a deal breaker because it's not as if he's neglectful towards his hygiene.
So, I don't know.
Doctor.
Yeah.
Doctor, doctor.
I would say this is definitely a medical thing that needs to be evaluated.
And you could try like flavored lube or like things that are very like scented.
Like I love coconut oil.
And I feel like it's like a two birds one stone.
You use coconut oil,
makes the hand movements feel gliding.
And you also get to whiten your teeth at the same time
because coconut oil whitens your teeth.
It's edible.
Oh nice.
Oh wow, I didn't know that.
Or maybe a little bit of summer's Eve vaginal spray.
I mean, I'm sure it'll work for dudes too.
I don't know about, I don't know. I don't know I don't know isn't that just a perfume? I feel like I'm really
nervous to try that type of stuff because I feel like that really messes
with your pH. Coconut oil unrefined virgin. Don't listen to me guys. It's the
best lube you will ever use ever. Ever. Ever. Huh.
Yeah, you guys, you go home. You've tested it out.
You can cook with that stuff too, right?
Yeah. It's so versatile.
You can do oil pulling with it. You take a spoonful in the morning, squish it.
I've seen that. It doesn't seem right.
It does whiten the fuck out of your teeth.
Really?
But doesn't it destroy like your gums?
It's actually supposed to be really good for your gums.
How do you do it again? You take a spoonful of it, like a small little spoonful and put it in your mouth, swish it
around for what you can tolerate.
They say about 20 minutes.
With water or no?
No.
Once you put it in your mouth, it heats up and just becomes a liquid.
Got it.
It's really good.
Wait, you're swishing around for 20 minutes?
So do it first thing in the morning, like when you wake up as you're like scrolling
on your phone before you really get out of bed or get moving and it flies by.
How long are you doing it or not how long, how many times a week are you doing that?
A lot of people do daily.
20 minutes daily?
Yeah.
That's insane.
But you're doing other stuff like do it as you're like, you know, bopping around your
house making breakfast.
Yeah, but you can't open your mouth.
The coconut oil was in your mouth.
Can you not breathe out of your nose?
No, I have DVDs of them.
What about a nose job?
I could.
How do you like, I'm a nose breather through and through.
Yeah.
So when I get a cold and not being able to breathe out of my nose.
Yeah, that's what it's like all this time.
I have a mental breakdown.
Like I can't, I can't stand it.
It's horrible.
You feel like you're like,
it's like being claustrophobic in your own face.
Yeah.
I've never had anyone describe it like that.
And that is exactly what it feels like.
Yeah, it's very uncomfortable.
Have you tried like holding your nostrils open
to stimulate what it would feel like?
Yeah, I'll do this.
Does it really work?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Or no, you do this too. This is really good.
This is really good.
This right here, look.
Pressing on your sinuses.
It's crazy that people can breathe like that all the time.
This is so.
Do you have a deviated symptom too?
I don't know if I do, but I can't breathe out of my nose.
It's very difficult.
You probably do.
And you guys have great noses.
It's not like you need it aesthetically, like a nose job.
And like no one does.
Noses, everyone's nose is beautiful.
But you should look into just getting the internal stuff.
Like imagine what it would feel like to breathe every day.
Yeah.
Imagine you get a DVS set up,
but then also you get a better nose too.
Your nose is really good.
Thank you.
Yeah. I wouldn't touch the nose.
I won't. Definitely won't. Just go inside. Yeah, I wouldn't touch the nose. I won't.
Definitely won't.
Just go inside.
Yeah.
Back to this one.
Before we move along, top comment, he needs to go see a doctor.
It's not normal to have that kind of smell after washing.
This honestly sounds like a yeast infection.
Yes, men can have those too.
Actually one of the risk factors for yeast infections is being overweight.
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
And diabetes can be a factor as well, someone shares.
So is that like, is that coming from his, his pee-sh or more of his taint?
Like that, that, like where would you think, because the yeast infection...
I would assume urethra?
It's internal.
No, no, for the, for the guys.
I'm going to Google, where do men get yeast infections?
I would assume urethra.
But if he has, if he has Segment on his balls.
It can cause, yes, men can get yeast infections too,
which can lead to a condition known as Blanditis,
inflammation of the head of the penis.
Yeast infections are, men are common because the fungus that causes yeast infections,
Candida, is normally present on skin,
especially moist skin.
Ooh, baby girl, you sucking on that tit?
Ew, that's actually horrifying when you think about it.
Well now I'm like, does it taste like sourdough bread?
Maybe.
Like a yeast starter?
So it's not yeast she's probably,
it's not salmon she's smelling, it's yeast. Yeah. Oh, she cooking up that dough down there.
We got to move along before we make everybody sick. I'm so sorry. You guys.
I'm getting hungry now. Yeah. I want a pizza. Oh, pizza Friday.
It's Tuesday. Oh wow.
The crazy thing is I got excited and accepted it.
Taco Tuesday. It is Taco Tuesday.
There you go.
And a margarita, how good does that sound?
And I had a burrito earlier today,
so I celebrated it already.
There you go.
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Okay, this next one.
12 days old.
Titled, my boyfriend doesn't want me drinking
during the week.
And I mean a single glass of wine.
So he says.
Get rid of them.
Me, 30 female, him, 27 male.
I'm going to call him Dave for this post.
I'm not even sure where to start.
It was such a great Thursday.
I got home from work and Dave and I went shopping
and got a few things for dinner.
Shrimp, salmon, and asparagus.
One of my favorite meals.
What goes well with this meal?
A glass of wine.
When I asked my boyfriend if he could go get a small bottle
of my favorite wine so we can have a glass with dinner,
he said no.
I was sort of thrown off by his response.
And I asked him why.
He said, quote,
you shouldn't be drinking on a weekday.
I said, pardon me? Then. He said, quote, you shouldn't be drinking on a weekday.
I said, pardon me?
Then his response was, quote, your family are alcoholics
and I don't trust your family genes.
I was livid.
Okay, built up.
Yeah, no way.
My dad used to be a heavy drinker, but he no longer is.
And even so, how does that have to do
with how I am with it? I've never abused alcohol before.
I haven't even had a glass of wine with dinner for as long as I can remember. I've been living on my
own since I was 15. He's been living with me for about three years. I said to him that I'm a grown
ass woman, and if I want a glass of wine with my dinner, I'm more than welcome to do so. And it's
not his choice to have a say. And honestly, if he doesn't like that, then I feel like maybe he should move back to his
dad's.
Who gets mad for someone wanting a glass of wine with dinner?
He ended up getting very angry and stormed off to his dad's house.
In the end of all of this, the perfectly cooked dinner was left out and no one had dinner
tonight and he will be staying at his dad's now.
Am I the asshole?
Absolutely not.
A glass of wine is there's nothing wrong with a glass of wine.
She's not saying a bottle.
It's crazy.
I just can't wait to get the next things because I need to know more.
I need to know like if it's like that was out of the blue.
Like I need details baby.
You're addicted now.
I would get if he had like if he had parents or had a brother that like died from alcoholism.
Well, it seems like alcoholism runs in the family.
No, not his family, her family.
So it's like none of his business to be like telling her what to do.
If he like felt kind of uneasy about that and he felt uncomfortable, then maybe I would sympathize with him,
but it sounds like he's just...
Yeah, and there had to have been multiple conversations before this.
Out of the blue like that is pretty random.
It's so weird.
I feel like I'm good with giving advice and putting in my two cents
because I'm always like, I don't know,
I feel like I don't let things like work me up
and I always, if it's meant to be,
it's meant to be type thing.
And I'd be like, all right, well,
obviously like it's not working out.
And if it bothers you and if it bothers them,
then goodbye.
And I feel like that's always my response
because it's never really like affected me.
Like especially like in friendships, like I've had friendships that I don't have anymore.
It's like something happened. We didn't see eye to eye.
And it's like my life is better without somebody.
Because to me, it's not even about the alcohol.
It's just about like, what else are you going to do?
The controlling aspect of it.
The controlling aspect of it is just like, that's where the problem is.
And if it's, it sounds like, would that just, would that hard no and just no explanation,
just like you shouldn't be drinking that.
It's like, oh, okay.
So what else can I not do under your roof?
Like that's the thing.
It's, it's one thing to say that and think that, you know, I think it's bad if you do
this, uh, coming from a concerned, like loving standpoint,
and be like, hey, you know, we drink a lot on the weekends.
You know, what if we tried not drinking during the weekdays?
It's all about the approach.
It's about, you know, as opposed to just kind of like-
Just springing it out of the blue.
Yeah.
Yeah, and there is a comment from OP clarifying, like, has he ever brought this up before?
Like, someone asked that.
And OP goes, no, he never did.
Maybe because he knew how my dad was with it and my dad's father,
maybe he's just scared it will be passed down to me one day.
I don't know.
And someone else goes, if he ever saw evidence of that,
then he'd be free to initiate a conversation about it.
Deciding you can or can't drink is not appropriate at all,
especially in the absence of any troubling behavior.
So it does seem like it was just a random,
no, you're not having wine during the week,
which like, there's also some studies that say
a glass of red wine a night or with a meal or whatever,
like is good for you.
Like there's some, there's a mix of research.
I'm on her side fucking.
But it's so weird.
It's like, I don't like when people start trying
to like police your behavior if it's not bad.
Yeah.
It's like, well, what is this?
Like you said, what is this going to lead into?
Right, like I used to chain smoke cigarettes.
Okay.
I used to smoke about like two packs a day.
Did you quit?
I did. You're done done?
Yeah.
That's amazing.
When I met Mariah, I was smoking
and I always knew she didn't like it.
And I feel like it was probably like a year
into our relationship, she was like,
I'm telling you this because I love you
and I care about you.
And it's a health concern.
I'm not telling you to do this, but I think it would be best to try to kick this habit.
Knowing that she cared about me so much and being like, hey, I would never want anything
to happen to you because of something like so stupid.
Yeah, that you can just like, you can theoretically just stop.
And like, me quitting meant more in that way than not.
Does that make sense?
Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's, you have this person you now love.
I had like a reason to.
There's a little bit more motivation there.
Right.
And you also get the perk of like, it's going to improve your health.
Yeah. It's realistically, it's better for you long term.
I knew I stunk. I always smell like cigarettes.
Your fingertips.
And like somebody who's a non-smoker like you smell it. Like if anybody has a say like it's like
yeah it's so pungent like I was like damn like I felt bad like I felt selfish for
just kind of like I don't know. Yeah, I'm so proud you were you were able to quit
That's huge to go from two packs a day
Like yeah, that is a lot of dedication and like yeah, you had the external motivation
But you still had to have that intrinsic because otherwise it would never have worked
I switched to like the the e-cigarettes for a little bit
Yeah Otherwise, it would never have worked. I switched to like the e-cigarettes for a little bit. Yeah. And like that helped me get off.
And then I ended up being able to get off of that and just...
That's, yeah, that's amazing.
I love the way your fiance approached it too.
Like it wasn't from this angle of control.
Like you need to stop smoking.
It's like, it's just genuine concern.
Like, hey, I, you know, just looking out, I'd really, you know,
maybe you could consider cutting back or quitting. Like that hey, I, you know, just looking out, I'd really, you know,
maybe you could consider cutting back or
quitting. Like that is a different angle.
Like if this guy were to see her having a
bottle of wine every night or maybe two
glasses every night, every day of the week,
like, Hey hon, like, I'm just a little
concerned. Maybe we skip the wine with
dinner tonight. But she even says, I can't
even remember the last time I had a glass
of wine with dinner. I don't have a problem.
And then he's so mad that he like,
can't even enjoy the dinner then.
He's just like-
Seems like something must have happened
right before dinner that he was already like,
heated about and kind of like snapped.
There's no mentions of it in OP's comments that I see.
Not a lot beyond the post.
So I don't know. But the top comment
on this one, he's so pissed off that you wouldn't let him control you that he chucked a fucking
tasty meal and went running back to his dad's house. I'm not trying to be one of those commenters
who goes straight to either break up or divorce. So my advice is in that order for you to continue this
relationship. He needs to give you a really good apology. He
needs to outline what he did that was wrong and why he also
needs to prove that he understands that it's not his
place to decide for you whether you have a glass of wine with
dinner or not. If he can't treat you as an equal partner who has
agency over her own body and life choices, he's not the one.
Yeah, he just sounds childish.
Like just like the whole, like throwing away dinner
and just going to daddy's house just seems like he is-
A little immature.
He has a little bit more room to grow.
Yeah, and I also-
Coming from me, that's a lot.
I also think too like,
Mariah pretty much never drank our entire relationship.
Yeah.
Like she had like a few drinks and like,
would, you know, whatever.
Maybe socially or randomly.
Yeah, super rarely.
And like, I was a heavy drinker.
And I knew, like, I'm sure she wasn't like,
thrilled about that, but was just like.
It's his choice.
It's his choice.
You know?
She never like made me like feel bad
about doing it.
Yeah, no, like it sounded like it was just genuine concern
which is like the total opposite of this.
And I think like control, like this might be one
of those early red flags that starts popping up.
Like we've had a lot of stories on my dad's podcast lately
where these listeners will write in
and like ask for advice based on their situation.
And the abuse they described starts really small.
He wouldn't let me listen to the type of music I liked.
And then it escalates to, if I make any noises
when I'm falling asleep in bed, he gets pissed off.
And it's like, what the fuck?
Who can control if they start snoring as they're falling asleep or?
Yeah.
What?
Two people actually do that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I thought that was on the cartoon.
No, my fiance is a sleep talker and then like he'll make these random little noises.
And I'm like, what?
He's like, oh, the goats, goats got out you have you have the app where
it records every time someone says something I want to get it my friend
my friend Karina she has it and she shows it all the time she posted all the
time she says in the little night and it's insane I'm a little scared I would
catch my toots oh your toots oh am I Oh, am I, am I, yep, might catch that.
Yeah, I haven't farted in front of him yet, so.
Oh, wow.
Well, make sure.
Engaged in there.
Well, you make sure you have the app on your phone,
not his phone.
Okay, I can control.
So you have it recorded, you hear a toot,
you delete it.
That's an idea, okay.
Because it separates all the audios.
So if like you toot in the middle of the night,
it puts its own line.
Okay, I could give it this. Yeah.
This would be good.
Yeah, but you'll hear everything.
Oh my God, I would love to hear what he says because he's such a sleep talker.
Yeah.
I sleep talk too.
It's terrible.
It's so good.
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This is seven days old, coming from tuhot takes subreddit titled, Dating an Escort.
Awesome.
I, 61 male, have been seeing this escort,
44 female, for many years.
She's told me a few times in the past that she loves me.
She's had a traumatic past being abandoned by her mom,
having a kid when she was 15,
and has been in abusive relationships.
However, it appeared that she found her own as an escort
and made a living from several repeat clients.
She seems happy externally.
However, she's told me a few times that her work is eating her up.
However, she can't quit as she can't figure out another career that pays her bills.
I've developed feelings for her, but unsure if one can have a real relationship with an
escort.
Anyone have experience?
Watch the movie Pretty Woman.
Literally, it's giving Richard Gere.
I've actually never seen that,
I've never seen that movie.
That is a crime.
So good. I know, I know.
Julia Roberts, Richard Gere.
She was an escort in that movie?
Yeah. Oh wow.
Oh my God, it's such a good movie.
And then they fell in love.
Aw, I'm gonna watch it, I'm gonna watch it.
It's so good.
It's like a cute rom-com.
Yeah. Okay. And it's filmed here. It's so good. It's like a cute rom-com. Yeah.
Okay.
It's a good wine night.
Like you and Todd with a bottle of wine
and like ordering some food in.
Todd, that's the only person I can watch it with,
just Todd.
There you go.
But yeah, all right, sounds good.
You got it.
I feel like he's just trying to live life,
have a good time.
Love is love.
I'm like team love.
I'm just like, you try it, give it is love. I'm like team love.
I'm just like, you try it, give it a shot.
I think try it out.
Obviously don't make any harsh decisions on both ends.
Like don't have her quit her job.
Don't like, don't move her in.
Okay, I have one very, very important question.
He says he's been seeing her.
Yeah.
Is that him? For many years.
Seeing her, seeing her or paying her to see him? I think paying.
Paying.
Client.
Yeah.
I think it's only been a client service provider relationship.
I mean...
She says she loves him though.
Girl, she loved the money.
But what if she really like, what if it was like...
He's her top client.
Maybe.
You're my favorite customer.
I did read another story recently that was from this person sharing, I used to get massages
regularly and the masseuse would let you pay for upgrades, which was a happy ending.
But it turns out she doesn't do the upgrade service anymore because she married one of
her regulars and he doesn't do the upgrade service anymore because she married one of her regulars.
And he doesn't want her doing upgrades anymore.
So like, sometimes people find their person in very unusual methods.
I could see them like possibly falling in love, but if you're not hanging out outside
of this, I feel like that's a little bit of a red flag, no?
I wonder if they've hung out.
Let me see if there's any comments.
What did OP say?
What's OP?
Original post.
Oh.
Original poster.
Original poster.
So OP responds to a comment.
Yes, that's what I believe is she's telling me
what she thinks I want to hear.
I only want to hear her reality.
But the problem is she began this
by telling me she loves me multiple times over a period
of time.
I didn't react at all for a good while."
So I don't know, maybe OP is kind of doubting if the I love you is real or not.
Now I've developed feelings for her, but her actions as I've spent more time with her lead
me to be more confused of her actual motivation and intentions
More time with her while while they're in session. Would you have any suggestions on how to elicit her real intentions?
Go out just ask. Yeah, just be like hey like obviously like we've been like seeing each other, you know
This type of way
To be honest, like I know we've been saying we love each
other. Like I genuinely mean that. And I would like to like go out to dinner and actually
hang out outside of, you know, work. Yeah.
Usual encounter. He's 66 and she's 44.
Yes. 61.
61. 61. Yeah.
Oh, I'm surprised. I didn't think 61 year olds even, I read it. Yeah. Oh, I'm surprised.
I didn't think 61 year old even, I read it.
Okay.
Oh, they're, yeah.
Boomers know.
They know what's up.
No, it's just, it's just interesting.
I like just can't imagine just 61 year old going behind the computer like, hmm.
Well, especially on my sub, like I'm kind of-
Oh, this is on yours?
This is on mine.
Like my sub is kind of sneaky.
Oh.
So he-
He's in it.
He's in it.
Oh, so every single one we're listening, we're reading off, they're listening on this podcast?
Most today have been from 2hot takes subreddit.
Yeah.
Cool.
I know.
But they like usually listen.
Oh no.
I thought we were never...
That they're not going to hear our answers.
Yeah.
Shit.
No, it's good.
We've been very, we've been on it today.
I feel like our responses have been really thoughtful.
Exactly, yeah.
Something to consider with this too,
is OP does comment and say,
I'm right now, I'm still contributing 70%
of her monthly income.
So it sounds like he's really kind of a pay pig,
in a sense.
Like a sugar daddy type?
Yeah, and that would be hard because it's like,
she's kind of mentioning to him,
like, I don't know what else I would do with my life.
And like, he wants a relationship.
So it's like, do you give someone an allowance
so they stop having to do that?
Or like, do you help her find another job
and then say, hey, let's go on a date,
see if we actually like each other
outside of the pain relationship?
Like, it would be a really tough conversation to have. That is, because, let's go on a date, see if we actually like each other outside of the pain relationship.
It would be a really tough conversation to have.
That is, because if he's providing 70%
when they start dating, there's probably no services anymore
and that's 70% of her income.
And then-
So maybe she does really like him then.
And that's why she's given up other clients.
Exactly, because she knows that he's not like,
is he gonna pay for everything for her?
I mean, that's not what I'm thinking that she's thinking
But she has to think a little bit financially about this decision. She's making yeah
There's another comment where OP says we're not dating in the sense that she doesn't spend any time with me off the clock
So, I don't know. I feel like my gut says she's not into it and she's, I feel like I side
with Heath a little bit.
I would say, hypothetically, if you're paying for an hour and she's not hanging out after
that hour just to spend genuinely, like genuine time with you and to talk and hang out.
Oh, that's good.
That's a good way to tell.
Oh, you say you love me so much, but as soon as that time hits an hour, you're out the door?
But I have a feeling she is spending longer than the hour.
He said that they're not...
No, no, I know, I know, but like I think that time still counts as like part of like the...
I don't think he's paying for the session, but I think she is staying a little longer
and that's probably why he's like, oh, maybe she does like me because she's staying a little longer.
It's still technically during session, it's just why he's like, oh, maybe she does like me because she's staying a little longer. It's still technically during session is just
session has gone over, but he's not paying extra time for it.
But he's also paying 70% of her income.
Oof, we need a little bit more context here, OP. Come on.
Let us know. You're going to hear it. You're going to see it.
I always say also go with your gut.
I feel like deep down he knows what it really is and it's either one thing or it's the other.
And sometimes it's hard to accept it
if it's not the answer you want.
But I feel like he probably knows
if she actually loves him or if he feels like he's being.
Yeah.
I kind of want to have them both on the pod.
Let's send him an invite.
Have them come here and then he and I will come back.
I would love to facilitate like couples therapy, not that I'm a qualified therapist by any
means, but I do do that at some live shows.
I ask people that are coming to the shows to submit a problem they're having that has
two sides and then we'll go and talk to both of them and like hash it out.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
One of the biggest ones was this couple in Irvine.
Love you guys.
He got her a vacuum for her Valentine's Day gift.
Beautiful gift.
Vacuuming is the only chore that he had to do.
Oh.
Yeah, so it was a really heated debate with everyone.
Hey.
He had to have thought that in his brain before he buying it. Like, he knew what he was doing.
There's no way he didn't know.
He really, I don't think, it kind of just escaped him.
Oh, you really think he didn't know?
Yeah, he was so nice.
He was like, I really thought it was, it wasn't that bad.
I mean, if it was a Dyson, man.
It was a really nice Roomba, I believe.
Okay.
It was the one you plug into the,
that does it.
It's the little, with the iPhone charger.
Is that little one, the cute one, the portable one?
I will say for Valentine's Day,
when I was living with my parents,
I think I was in high school,
my dad did get my mom a CD to a person
that she had no idea who it was.
And it was like his favorite country singer.
So it was a gift for him.
My mom was like, what the fuck is this?
Why would you get me this?
Oh my God.
And I just remember like, it was a really funny moment.
And then my dad took the CD and put it in his car.
They're still married.
They're doing great. Okay.
It's just like a funny little thing.
But my mom's like, what is this?
What the fuck?
Okay. I'm giving you guys a choice on the last one.
Okay.
We have had quite a few weddings and engagement ones.
It's the season with it, but I'm giving you an option
because there is one that's not that.
And I'm kind of now I'm realizing making Zayn here
kind of sit through weddings and engagements.
And babies and breast milk.
And babies and breast milk.
And hookers and escorts.
So I'm gonna let, maybe we'll let you choose, okay?
Okay.
So option one is, am I the asshole
for not speaking Japanese after living here for six years?
Option two, am I the asshole for giving my ex-fiance a fake engagement ring? And option three, am I
the asshole for calling my brother a hypocrite for refusing to come to my
wedding because it's child-free? I like the second one. Door number two. Yeah,
door number two. Pick number three,
my lord. That is, come on. That's exciting. The other, like the first one, it's like,
I already know where it's going. So that one, the third one was just like, yeah, sure. No kids at
a wedding. Yeah, we got it. But that fake wedding ring. Here we go. I need to hear this one.
This is 13 hours old coming from AITAH,
titled, Am I the Asshole for Giving My Ex-Fiance
a Fake Engagement Ring?
It was an honest to God marriage proposal.
I very much wanted to marry her.
She is just a klutz and I didn't trust her
with the real thing.
I took her to Coachella for the second weekend
and to propose.
It was a great time and she got
to see no doubt who she loves because her dad used to listen with her when she was a
baby.
Wow, remember there? So it feels like so.
Anyways, I asked her to marry me and she said yes. She loved the ring. I had it sized, but
it was the brass and moissanite copy I had made so she would not lose or damage the real one at the
concert.
Which she promptly did.
And then she pretended not to.
She said it was too tight and that she had put it away until we got back to Phoenix.
When we got back, she asked me where I got the ring.
I told her and she tried to replace it.
Until they told her how much it cost.
She came to my place crying to tell me she lost the ring
and to beg for my forgiveness.
I told her right away that it was no big deal
because I had the real one with me
and we could go get it sized perfectly
so that she wouldn't lose it.
Yeah, perfect.
My mistake, because she fucking lost it.
She went off on me for making her not enjoy the weekend
because she was worried sick that she had lost her ring.
If she had told me she had lost it,
I would have just told her the truth.
Yeah.
That I didn't want to take any chances with her ring
at that massive venue.
She screamed at me that I was a complete asshole
to make her worry like that.
She said a lot of stuff that I guess had been building
for a while and she said things she could not take back.
Oh.
I told her to get out.
She asked for her real ring.
I said, nope.
I am not marrying someone who thinks this is a way
to behave towards me.
I told her she had to leave
or I would get the security guys to get her out.
Ooh, that's bad.
She is only signed in as a guest, so it is not a big deal for me to get her out.
I feel like I dodged a bullet, but also kind of feel bad that I didn't tell her at the concert that it was fake so she wouldn't worry.
My parents are wondering why we broke up and I really don't know what to say.
No, you can tell them.
I think that was definitely something up there.
Universe, baby.
That was a universe.
That was a moment that the universe created as a test.
And it wasn't even that crazy of a test.
This is insane though.
It was insane.
It was, for her to be upset with him,
for her losing a fake wedding ring is absolutely insane.
And you didn't tell him that you lost it.
So it's like, he couldn't help you out in any way. But you didn't tell him that you lost it. So it's like,
he couldn't help you out in any way, but you know what? You did lose that ring. And when it came down,
you, he, she lost it. So he was right. So he was right. He was justified. And it was just,
he was just doing it for you in the end of the day. It's your ring and he didn't want you to lose it.
It's very special. Which how thoughtful is that? To get you, not only do you have a real one waiting for you at home, but he got you a
fake copy so that you can have fun and not worry about it.
Be carefree.
Went out of his way to do a fake one.
That's, spent more money to make a fake ring.
Extra money.
Moissanite's like, yeah, they're less than diamonds, but like you still have to spend
a decent amount for a Moissanite.
Like. Wow. I mean, yeah. but like you still have to spend a decent amount for a moissanite. Like...
Wow. I mean, yeah.
I think that was a sign.
And yeah, as you said,
you definitely dodged a bullet on that one.
100%.
And especially the reaction you got.
I feel bad.
I feel bad you got that reaction and you were gas lit.
That's tough.
Like he was probably in like,
he was on his honeymoon stage at this point.
Like he was so excited for her and like that.
Instead of her being relieved that it was a fake one and that the real one was safe and okay and that, you know, there is nothing to worry about.
It was just blame. That, that's bad. Yeah, that sucks.
I just have a feeling that he bought her Coachella ticket too.
It's giving, it's giving free ride.
Yeah, it's giving, it's giving gold digger.
And then wanting the ring after?
Yes, that!
You just told this person despicable things.
You're done.
He told you to get out and you ask for the ring?
No way. You're not engaged anymore, sweetie.
That's not yours.
You're supposed to give the ring back
if you call it off, right?
Yes, unless you propose on holidays.
Like if you propose on Valentine's Day or Christmas,
it can technically be perceived as a gift
and therefore doesn't have to be given back.
Oh, like you mean like legal wise.
Yes.
Oh, did not know that.
So if there's a shot that your engagement isn't going to work out, do not propose on
a holiday because otherwise you're not entitled to getting the ring back.
Ladies try to get that ring on that Valentine's day, baby.
Make it work.
Mariah, like I got a Thanksgiving gift.
Oh, shit.
Was it Black Friday?
I was just on Thanksgiving.
It was on Thanksgiving.
It counts, it's a gift.
That's so funny.
Isn't that wild?
I did not know that.
Yeah, yeah.
So I've seen on legal advice.
Good to know.
I know, it's crazy.
That's crazy.
Yeah, people are like kinda coming for him
in the comments a little bit.
Really?
Well, only in regards to,
you should have told her way sooner.
No.
And OP goes,
I told her within seconds of finding out she lost it.
How much quicker should I have let her know?
And the person goes,
sorry, I meant after you proposed.
I don't know.
Maybe that's just kind of my relationship.
And also you have to think about it.
It's another surprise he was probably trying to do
when they got home.
Maybe, yeah. By the way, here's the real wedding think about it. It's another surprise he was probably trying to do when they got home. Like, by the way, here's the real wedding ring or...
I will say this.
We don't know exactly how long he had planned
to hold the real one.
Cause he went into it knowing that she was kind of clumsy
with belongings and he was probably gonna do it
and let her hold that
fake one until she did eventually lose it.
Maybe.
Because that's what it seems like to me.
Well no, he said that he proposed to her at Coachella.
Right.
Which like, that is the place to use a fake ring.
Coachella just happened.
No, I know.
I'm saying he could have let her wear that fake ring until she did eventually lose it
because he had already gone into it thinking
That it was gonna get lost. Yeah, and to keep the back up for when that does happen
Yeah, so it didn't seem like he was gonna go about and tell her that hey, by the way, that's a fake one
I'm trying to see if there's any comments
giving us info about when he was gonna give her the real one and kind of share the
info Holy shit you guys he was gonna give her the real one and kind of share the info.
Holy shit, you guys.
Someone accuses him of tricking her.
Like you tricked her and he goes, trick her how?
I had the real $17,000 ring at home for her.
It wasn't like a placeholder was all she was ever getting.
Thank God he didn't give her the real one.
Wow.
Wow. Wow.
$17,000 ring.
Imagine finding a $17,000 ring at Coachella.
Dude.
I lost a Cartier ring down here on Ventura Boulevard somewhere.
Really?
Slipped off my finger after freshly applied hand sanitizer from Lululemon.
Gone.
Yeah, now I got another one,
and this time I put spikes on it.
On the inside?
Yeah.
What do you mean spikes?
You can do that?
Yeah, I'll show you.
Is it just like-
It's teeth.
You can put teeth on the inside of your rings,
and then it keeps it on there.
See that?
You can feel it if you want.
It's a little warm from my hand.
Do you feel the spikes?
Like it doesn't write up your hand
No, it just like it holds it in place. It like does give you a little mark, but like
It's not going anywhere
So, I don't know. I I don't feel like he did anything wrong like I
Don't know. It's just it's I would love to meet the both of them
I would love to meet them like these stories is just I hate that I don't like see a face to it. I don't know. It's just, it's crazy. I would love to meet the both of them. I would love to meet them.
Like these stories, I hate that I don't like see a face to it. I don't see...
I feel like I'm on like Maury.
Maury? Maury.
Jerry Springer a little bit. It's every week for me.
You guys can come back whenever.
You're welcome anytime.
Top comment on this one.
LOL, I like how after she did all of that, she asked you for the real ring.
Not the asshole.
Yeah, not.
And OP does go, like he, there's a lot of comments from him in these, this thread.
There was no, I told you so.
I thought she would actually be relieved, not a psycho.
I didn't know she lost the ring at Coachella.
I thought she just genuinely put it away like she told me.
The minute I realized she lost the ring,
I did my best to reassure her it was no big deal
and told her it was a placeholder.
So I don't think, asshole, like blessing in disguise
all the way around, it doesn't look like there's any updates, but yeah.
It's almost like she wanted to lose that real, like she was,
like I just can't like, I can't wrap my head around
why she would be upset.
Like you would have lost a $17,000 ring.
Yeah.
Maybe she wanted to pawn that fake one, thinking it was real.
It's giving free Coachella trip, $17,000 ring.
Like maybe she's got that sugar baby mentality a little bit.
I don't know.
Like to ask for that ring after you are breaking up.
How did she know it was fake?
He eventually did tell her that was a fake placeholder.
I have the real one.
I had a feeling she already knew.
You think so? I don'tholder. I have the real one. I had a feeling she already knew. You think so?
I don't know.
I'm so curious. We need more OP.
Why would she come back and be like, where'd you buy it from? It's almost like, why is
that like coming out of nowhere? Where'd you buy it from?
That I thought because it was like, she was trying to sneakily replace it on her own.
And then when she went to the store, thinking it was like they told her,
oh, that's 17 grand, she freaked out crying.
But at that point, wouldn't you kind of be like,
well, why is she asking me where I got it from?
And also why are you telling her
where you got the real one from
knowing she wasn't wearing the real one?
You know?
Tell her where you got the fake one from.
Exactly.
Moissanite.
Five, five carats.
Well, they don't do carrots for Moissanite.
It was an eight by 10 millimeter.
It was a six by 10.
How much do those cost?
It depends.
There's a lot of like, I feel like there's a big movement for Moissanite right now.
It's pretty affordable.
I went with Moissanite.
I love it.
Oh, like for the real wedding ring?
For my engagement ring, it's Moissanite. I love it. Oh like for the real wedding ring for my engagement ring. It's moissanite
You'd never know I just but like what's the difference in price like I don't price huge huge
Oh, really? Yeah, like this like in an actual diamond
Anywhere from 40 to 60 K for the size Wow, that's just that's yeah, that's like the savings
I'm not doing that. No, that's how much a diamond that's what a diamond this size would be Wow It's like the savings. I'm not doing that. No, that's how much a diamond that size would be. That's what a diamond this size would be.
Wow.
It's like the prices of diamonds, they're astronomical.
Yeah.
I don't think it's worth it.
Just like, and if you lose it, like, you know, hopefully you lose it, you just replace it
with another moissanite, but it's not $60,000 or you're fucking replacing it.
Yeah, no.
To each their own.
Like if you have the go fuck you money or whatever, like you
want to spend 200k on a ring. Like there's some people that like Victoria Beckham, she's
got one of her rings. She has 15 engagement rings by the way. One of them is over a million
dollars. So like they can obviously do that. But like, I would rather buy a horse than a-
A horse, a million dollar horse?
Well like, you know, just like-
Seabiscuits.
A budget friendly horse.
A good horse.
Yeah.
Like a really fast horse.
Yeah, I just bought one.
How much is a good horse?
You can get a good one for, I think,
depends on where you live.
Horse prices have actually gone through the roof lately too.
There's inflation on horses.
Oh yeah.
They get everything.
I think you can get a good, good one.
Well trained, broke good head on him.
10 grand.
Oh, okay.
For like a baby?
No, like a trained older one.
Okay.
Six, seven, eight.
What's the lifespan?
30 years.
Wow.
Yeah, it's a commitment. Wow, you can grow up with him.
I still have my pony from when I was five.
Really?
That's cool.
He's a little cutie.
What's his name?
Konya.
Konya?
He was named after Konyak, the liquor.
Oh, shit.
Loose, loosely.
Okay.
But thank you guys so much for coming on.
Wow, that was great.
Thank you for having us.
Where can everyone find you guys? Listen to your show.
So we have two shows.
One is a brand new show that we just started with Alicia Marie and Remy Cruz.
It's called basically unfiltered.
We had to change it a couple of weeks ago.
Oh no.
Legalities.
Legalities.
Basically unfiltered.
We post every Thursday on youtube.com slash pretty ex unfiltered right now
We have to switch it later
And then we have our show that we've been doing for five years called Zane and Heath Unfiltered
We post every Tuesdays on our channel youtube.com slash Zane and Heath
and it's
It's a good time. It's you know podcast with two uneducated Florida boys. Yeah, don't change it. It's so good
We'll keep it. It's so good.
And thank you again for having us.
This was great.
This was really good.
I can't believe how like you just want more.
I know.
It's literally that is why I started this podcast.
It just sucks you in.
It does.
And then when you get like a little update, oof.
And you'll never stop either.
There's always going to be problems around the world and you'll always have them.
Always.
That's why we're here every week.
All of Zayn and Heath's links will be in the description of the podcast.
Check out their show.
It is hilarious.
Fun.
You're just having a good time.
Thank you.
I'm going to start submitting on your little subreddit.
Whenever I have a problem with anybody.
Oh my God.
I'm going to have to question.
Hey, so I have a podcast host that he's getting married and I feel like he's at a
different stage of life than me and he's moving to Chattanooga.
That's funny.
Oh my God.
Until next time guys.
Bye. Bye!