Two Hot Takes - 213: Lost the Plot?!
Episode Date: April 24, 2025Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-hosts Justin and Lauren! Is it just us or does it feel like people have 'lost the plot' lately? You know, acting confused or goofy in the way they're ...handing situations or life in general. Or have we lost the plot?! Today we're deterring who is at lost in these stories.. like the OP who had a ferret ruin her friends dress, someone who wound up in their boyfriend's scientology mansion, or a person who confused their ex their place was haunted so he'd move out. Buckle up everyone! Bonus Content on Patreon including FREE episodes: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes MERCH HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com Send us a letter? Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 WRITE IN TO US!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Index: 08:01 — Story 1 23:10 — Story 2 38:54 — Story 3 50:49 — Story 4 1:07:05 — Story 5 1:22:00 — Story 6 1:31:06 — Story 7 1:44:45 — Story 8 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Nice travels.
Oh, but I will say I was at the airport
and I bought two waters.
Did you tip?
No, no, literally two waters at the desk and it was $15 and then not only did it like ask
you to tip, but you couldn't even hit no tip.
You had to literally physically hit other and then put 000 in.
That's how it was.
And I was like, I'm like sweating because I'm like staring at this lady and I'm like
zero, zero, zero, I'm so sorry, but I'm not going to tip on my two water bottles for $15.
No, there was another thing, Jamba Juice, the minimum tip I could do was 18%.
And I swear to God, they put laxatives in it because my stomach was bad after that.
I'm still feeling the effects of that Jamba Juice. That's probably what it was. I think it's the Jamba Juice. And I swear to God, they put laxatives in it because my stomach was bad after that.
I'm still feeling the effects of that Jamba Juice.
That's probably what it was.
I think it's the Jamba Juice.
But there was one thing, I was literally staring at the screen and you came in and you hit
no tip for me and I forget where that was.
Because I was just staring, I was like, there's so many percentages, so many options.
I didn't see a way out of it.
And Justin's watching over my shoulder and he just hits the button.
And then you like, they know you don't tip and it's so awkward, but besides the point.
I've wondered if that shows up on their screen on that end.
It's just like, errr, errr, this person's a bitch.
No tip.
No tip.
Oh man, I know. I think this is a great way to segue because we do recognize that sometimes tipping is
necessary.
If you make your own fro-yo and you're the one scooping, maybe you don't tip.
Maybe you don't tip for a self-serve beer.
But it seems like there's a lot of people out there in this big world, big world,
and a lot of people seem like they've lost the plot.
Or have they?
And have we lost the plot?
Are we disgruntled with our lot we've been dealt?
Not me. Our lot. I've been using a lot we've been dealt. Not me! Our lot.
I've been using a lot of weird words today.
I just finished the new Hunger Game book and there's like a couple big words in there I
didn't know and I was like, okay, bringing out the dictionary today, going to use a little
thesaurus.
I love this.
I can't wait for you to mess up phrases from the past too.
It happens.
It happens.
There's a new phrase I learned though and I was like, oh, that's so good.
I want to use it.
I already forgot it.
So that's a bummer.
Big bummer.
But what's new in your world, everyone?
How we doing down there on the sofa?
Who do I got with me today?
Lauren?
JT.
What?
Who's that?
Me.
You've never introduced yourself as that.
He's rebranding, okay?
Yes, it's fresh.
It's Justin and me, Morgan.
Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes.
I got some good old wine.
I got some good stories, I think.
And we're going to get into some good old fashioned chaos.
Some people that lost the plot with your good old friends, Lauren and JT.
I can't do this without headphones.
This is too weird.
I know.
It feels like we're actually talking to each other.
I know.
It's all in the mouth. headphones is too weird. I know. It feels like we're actually talking to each other. I know.
It really has tripped me up the past few times, but I think now I'm kind of used to it.
Well, if the mics cut out, you guys wouldn't know.
And then you'd be like, oh, don't hit the episode,
but none of it's there.
So I'll be here for quality control.
Thank you, Justin.
I really appreciate that.
It makes me feel safe. Like I feel like I'm in a little bubble and it's like, no one can hurt me here in my headphones.
And then when I feel like, ah, when I'm so naked.
Do you want some headphones?
Oh, this is so good.
So I do want headphones, but I'm wearing these really pretty earrings that Sarah got us at her wedding.
And now I'm like, well, then I have to sacrifice the earrings. I have
to take them out and like can't do that. Lauren's earring game is always top-notch.
I know. Always. Ever since I've met her. Thank you. I like-
Always. You have like the coolest ones every time.
I really don't feel that way and I'm just shocked that you-
Especially when you stack them all the way up nice our friend Kira who made those earrings
just commented on one of the new patreon posts and she was like i just want to tell you how nice i
was getting a shout out because i was dealing with like not feeling creative and that was just so
great so oh my gosh lauren's always down for some earrings if you want to send your earrings to the
po box it's in the description of this episode. Oh my gosh, I love that.
Yeah, get the girl. Get the girl on some good earrings.
But definitely no pressure, but I mean-
No pressure.
No pressure. If you want to just send a postcard, sticker, or nothing, like just love you guys.
A note. Cost of a stamp. Let's get into these today.
Just be nice in the comments and I'll love you forever. Let's dive in.
Let's do it. Say something, do a catchphrase.
JT, look.
JT's ready.
What does that mean?
It's the submarine diving.
I know exactly what you're trying to do.
Why am I in a submarine?
It's so good.
Because we're diving in?
Oh no! Makeup ruined already. I'm raccooning!
Gosh darn it! Can you just do one submarine sound? No. Please, please, please. I'll do my other sound that everyone loved on patreon. Oh, let's hear it
What is it? I don't know. I don't remember
I was hoping you'd play it. No, I don't even know where it is. Do you remember?
No, yeah the sound and you're like don't ever make that sound again
Everyone was commenting that oh
Baby or something. Oh, it was a goo goo gaga or something. Oh, it was the son from Teletubbies.
That was the worst sound I've ever heard in my life.
But if you want to do it again, you can.
Do it again.
Oh!
Ah!
I've never heard anything of the sort come out of this man.
That's exactly how it sounds.
That was probably even more accurate, honestly.
I gotta go.
Dude, I pegged you as monotone.
I'm shook right now.
Monotone?
No, no, no, not monotone.
Just more even keeled.
That was wild.
I'm impressed.
I'm shocked.
I'm happy.
I'm scared.
A lot of emotions.
I feel like you're upset.
I'll refresh your memory, Lauren.
Am I digging myself in a hole?
I don't mean're upset. I'll refresh your memory Lauren. Am I digging myself in a hole?
I don't mean to upset you.
Okay.
Look at him coming over the hill.
I think honestly they should hire you for this role because you do it better.
Okay.
I got my tissues over here because I'm ending with a story today that
I already know I will be losing my tear ducts over.
That's why you got the tissues?
Well, I was laughing really hard and I just, I needed to make sure I didn't look crazy,
but now I'm prepared for later. But let's get into this first one, shall we?
Yeah.
Okay. This first one is coming from Am I the Asshole. It is four hours old.
Titled, Am I the Asshole for refusing to pay my friend after my ferret attacked her $900
dress?
Why would a ferret do such a thing?
So I, 29 female, have a pet ferret, Noodles.
He's super friendly and curious and I let him free roam when I'm
home. My friend Kara, 28 female, fake name, came over last weekend for wine night with
a few of our other friends. She showed up wearing this very extra silk dress. Said she
had a date after and didn't have time to change. I told her maybe not the best outfit
for a casual girls night, but whatever. Well, at one point she gets up to go to the kitchen, and Noodles, being the menace he
is, bolts towards her and jumps up.
His little claws snag the back of her dress, and it tears maybe a half inch slit.
She screams, freaks out, and runs into the bathroom sobbing.
The whole vibe died instantly. I felt bad,
but also like you wore a $900 dress to drink boxed wine on my carpet with a literal ferret
present. Anyways, she sends me a Venmo request later that night for $920. Apparently the
dress is some vintage designer and the repair requires special fabric
sourcing.
You could buy a new one for that price?
I declined the request. She sent it again. I declined again.
Oh, love this cuddiness.
Now she's telling everyone I'm irresponsible and letting my rodent ruin people's things.
She even told our group chat that I let Noodles drink wine.
He just sniffed the glass one time.
My other friends are split.
Some say I should pay at least something.
Noodles was wasted.
That menace. Noodle's was wasted.
That menace.
Others say Kara's being dramatic.
Then today, her lawyer sent me a letter saying I'm liable for damages.
I literally laughed out loud.
What judge is going to look at me and say, quote, yes, pay $900 because your ferret got
excited about silk.
So am I the asshole or is this entire thing completely unhinged?
I can't even think straight because this is just funny.
I don't know if I'm in a weird mood or if this is actually as funny as I think it is.
This is hilarious. Okay, but hey, let's flip it around.
Put on your mentally, put on your favorite, favorite item of clothing you own.
Oh, I'd be irate.
Especially if it's something that was passed down or you found on a random trip at a thrift
shop from whatever designer, whatever.
Now someone's pet, dog, cat is probably more likely, let's agree everybody,
to wreck your stuff. What is the correct response in Course of Action? Whose responsibility is it
really? First of all, cat, not more likely. A cat won't want anything to do with your ass. Second of all, a dog jumps right up on you and has no understanding of boundaries.
That's true. I've had cats jump at me too. Maybe I'm just traumatized from cats.
Yeah, you've had bad experiences.
Regardless of the animal, everyone, what is the protocol?
I mean, I do, I definitely see your-
Because if your dog bites someone, that's your fault. Yeah, I see your point.
And I think, I just am curious if the ferret is usually out.
Does the ferret usually have this behavior?
Did she say something like,
hey, don't wear that around my ferret?
Like, what were these conversations that were had?
Because, I mean, you're right, Justin,
if you go into somebody else's home
and an animal bites you, hurts you, whatever,
then it's usually the owner's responsibility.
So as silly as this sounds and as annoying as it is because she's like, you came over
for a boxed wine with a ferret, with my drunk ferret, with noodles.
I named him noodle for a separate day.
Well, I mean, she in court can say, well, he was intoxicated.
He didn't know what he was doing.
You took advantage of noodles, OK?
I mean, I feel like this is a tough one, because it's like,
did the friend know the ferret existed?
Probably.
The OP kind of implied it.
If she didn't and wore this dress for the going on a date
and whatever, then I'd be kind of annoyed where it's like,
I didn't know you had a ferret.
Yeah, for sure. I didn't know you had a ferret. Yeah, for sure.
I didn't know I shouldn't wear a dress.
I didn't expect a ferret to latch onto my silk.
I don't think you're entitled to pay for the whole dress.
You should definitely pay for the repair.
Agreed.
If that's sewing it up, whatever.
I don't know what they do.
This sounds really bougie.
But you should definitely try to make it right, but the whole value of the dress, no. But I'd love
for some lawyers to chime in because I, I bet that that girl could actually take
OP to court. It might be a Judge Judy court, but I think OP would lose.
I mean you can take someone to court for anything.
Anything.
Yeah, anything. It's, does she have a case? I think, would lose. I mean, you can take someone to court for anything. Anything.
Yeah, anything.
But it's, does she have a case?
I think, yeah, I wonder.
I think she does have a case, I think.
Well, and it's like, what's the value of friendship?
Is that not being factored in?
Because it kind of seems like it's like, she reacted because her favorite dress got wrecked
and you know, yeah, it might've been an overstep to just request
the whole amount.
But it seems like if this is a true friendship,
it'd have been like, hey, I don't really wanna pay
that much, but like, let's come to some kind
of compromise here versus just being like,
okay, see ya, and then she's gonna sue,
and now we're just throwing it all away.
It's interesting. I know, I mean, the friendship is probably not See ya, and then she's gonna sue and now we're just throwing it all away. Yeah.
It's interesting.
I know.
I mean, the friendship is probably not gonna survive after this.
I'm curious because it's so hard because if she went to that restaurant for her date and
a server spilled red wine on her, the restaurant would pay for dry cleaning if it didn't come
out.
I think they would replace the dress.
Probably. for dry cleaning if it didn't come out, I think they would replace the dress. So your friend,
a restaurant, or like when I was a flight attendant, if you spilled on someone, we'd pay
for dry cleaning for their stuff and then replace it. So it is tough. If you have renter's insurance,
you could let your renter's insurance pay for it if you want to save your friendship. But also at
the same time, like you were kind of silly to wear a $900 dress over to my house knowing I have a ferret.
That's kind of on you.
Like you took the risk.
If a stranger on the street bumped in you and spilled on you, there's no way you'd get
money from that stranger.
Like that's kind of the risk you assume when you wear nice things out.
But that could be my way of thinking and that might not be logical.
A story similar to this.
Was it the woman who gave birth on her friend's couch?
I don't remember.
Because that's what came to mind for me.
I can't remember what it was, but it's just reminding me because it's like what you said,
if it was a stranger, you usually don't expect that because the stranger probably walks away.
But at the same time, if it was at a restaurant, then the restaurant is usually liable and will pay for, or on an airline.
I had a flight attendant spill coffee all over me on my brand new white shoes, and they
ended up giving me a decent flight credit for that.
But in this situation, it's like, you can say that it's petty and frustrating.
Because like, for example, like if somebody just immediately VEMO requested me like 900
bucks, I would be like, like that would really bother me.
That pisses me off.
That's a shit ton of money.
Yeah.
And not even having like a discussion and being like, Hey, we need to talk about this.
This was really expensive.
Like I need you to like help me out here because XYZ.
Yeah. So that would bother me. And then going and telling the group chat that my
ferret was drunk and that's why he jumped on. Then that would piss me off too.
You sniffed it. Question mark, question mark, question mark.
Yeah. So we do have some comments from OP. Top comment. info. Did she know that Noodles was a free roaming ferret before she came over?
I.E. has she been over before and seen him free roaming?
Yes, we've been friends for a decade now.
She's met Noodles several times and knows the vibe.
It wasn't a surprise that Noodles was free roaming.
But he just doesn't usually attack.
Same person responds and goes,
then definitely not the asshole.
She knew he'd be roaming free.
She took the chance. It's all on her.
Someone replies back,
dogs are free-roaming too.
If the dog attacked the friend,
would you say the friend is the asshole?
If a dog jumped up on her
wearing the dress and snagged it,
I'd say the same thing. She made a poor choice." So people are kind of going back and forth in the comments
a little bit. Yeah.
So it really comes down to, I honestly want to know what would happen in court.
I know.
Because where does that actual line fall?
Yeah, next.
Oh, sorry.
Well, there's just this other comment
to kind of demonstrate how back and forth
people are going.
You're the asshole.
You invited company to your house.
All you had to do was put your pet up.
If I was your friend,
I wouldn't think it would be an issue
meeting up at your apartment before a date
in a nice dress.
You shouldn't be so callous of the fact
that your pet jumped on your invited guest and ruined her dress."
So this kind of reminds me, I saw this video where this girl was texting on her phone as
she was going across the crosswalk and this guy was taking a right turn and didn't notice
her and like bumped her. It was okay. It was okay. Everything was okay. But it was a video caught
of this situation. And everybody in the comments were going at it as well. They were all debating
each other because-
Oh, like who was wrong?
Yeah, who was wrong. And the girl on like texting the cell phone, they're like, you
shouldn't be on the cell phone when you're-
Doesn't matter. She's on the crosswalk.
Yeah. And then somebody was like, no, it's the vehicle. Everybody was fighting on it.
And I'm like, the reality is it's like, well, it's the vehicle. Everybody was fighting on it.
And I'm like, the reality is it's like, well, she shouldn't have been texting when she's
crossing the street.
Like, that's true.
She should be looking out for herself.
And the best thing to do for herself is not be texting and looking around for her own
safety.
Yeah.
But if you took it to court, like she's in the clear and the car is the one who's to
blame for a lot of this.
I love the lawyer who does those videos on TikTok.
It's like this car rear ends this one or does that.
And then he's like, which one's at fault here, red car or white car?
And then after they'll like reveal the answer.
It is really interesting.
Got to study up.
Got to study.
Yeah.
So in this case, I think it's like the friend wearing the silk dress seems like kind of
annoying and frustrating, but
at the same time, if they took it to court, she'd probably legally win the case.
I'm not sure, but that's what I'm guessing because like you guys said, if it was a dog
who jumped and bit somebody, they would be liable.
Right.
So I think, I think OP technically, if this got brought to court, I mean this girl's involving her lawyer
Yeah, she means business and maybe this like isn't the first time noodles has like
Been a menace every time Opie's words the name noodles comes noodles might have a history noodles might have a rap sheet
I don't know because I'm inspired to buy a fair name noodles because honestly
if this girl's involving her lawyer though, like that's a drastic jump. OP does have quite a few comments here.
I mean, it's only a couple hours old, but OP goes, that's what I was thinking too.
Like 20 or $40 stitch up would have been reasonable, but I don't know.
I'm not a seamstress, so I'm not sure.
Surely not a paycheck's worth of repairs. Downvoted 220 times. People are kind of like, why wouldn't
she change at your house? Why wouldn't she bring that dress and then change? I was trying
to imply the same thing to her. It wouldn't be weird for her to change at my place before
the date. We are friends from college, so it isn't unusual for us to get ready or change
in front of each other. The weird behavior was just the sudden passive aggressive Venmo for what totals to half a paycheck for me. We've been
friends for a decade and she can't have a conversation about it with me. I think she's
taking advantage of daddy here too. Like something else has to be going on in her life for this
to really escalate to this. Negative 57 votes. That was OP that said that, right?
Yeah, Kara, the girl, has pets it and watched Noodles before.
If the group coming over wasn't already familiar with my ferret, then I would agree,
but this wasn't his first time with the group.
Kind of implying, like, I would have put him away, but that is an issue because everyone's comfortable with my my pet noodles
Yeah, but I would say that when you saw she's wearing the dress
That's super nice. Then it probably would have been a good idea to put noodles away
I mean I would I wouldn't say like Lauren come on over and you're wearing like a really nice fancy dress and I wouldn't
Say hey get on my horse
No, you're gonna get horse hair and dirt all over you and you might smell like shit.
My horses don't smell like shit, but you get the point.
But anyways, final vote on this one.
Where do you guys land?
Got to go to court.
I'm ready.
I'll be there.
Not the asshole.
Give me the date, time, location.
You're ready.
I have a hard time giving like a hard stamp on this one.
That was my cop out.
Okay.
Okay.
We're going to kick it off with a vote to the people.
There's no vote right now on Am I the Asshole?
It is too new.
Hmm.
Wow.
I'm kind of in the boat of everyone sucks here, I think.
Did you have to wear the dress?
Maybe, maybe not. You kind of knew you were going
to hang out with noodles. Could the friend have put noodles away? Yeah. Could they have
had a conversation before the passive aggressive Venmo fight? Yeah. That's the part that bothers
me. Like, why did you have to have a chat? Have a chat guys.
Well, it's interesting that neither of them anticipated this. Is this a first? Is it just
happened to be that material?
And it's like the first time something like this
has occurred because-
Based on OP's comments, this is a first.
Either the friend going over could have had the, you know,
the idea to say, hey, can we put him away
because I'm just, you know,
I don't want to mess around with this dress
because he tends to go towards things.
Or the owner could have been like, Hey, I'll just put them away just because
you know, just in case.
So neither of them anticipated it.
It's like it happened all of a sudden.
So no assholes here.
Oh, I don't know.
I'm just adding more fuel to the fire.
Well let's see what you both think about this next one, because it's also a little juicy.
Okay?
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
This one is coming from r slash am I overreacting, seven hours old.
It is titled, am I overreacting for kicking my sister out after what she did at my wedding?
I, 28 female, got married last weekend to the love of my life.
It was a smallish wedding, around 80 people, very personal, lots of emotions, and we paid
for everything ourselves.
I had asked my younger sister, 24 female, to be my maid of honor.
We've always been close, and I've helped her through a lot—bad breakups, school stress,
financial stuff—so I thought this would be a beautiful experience for both of us.
The day of the wedding, everything was going smoothly, until the reception.
During the speeches, my sister went up and started her toast by saying how happy she
was for us.
But then, without warning, she started crying.
Hard.
At first, I thought it was just emotion, but then she started talking about how hard
it was to, quote, watch someone you love get married when your own heart is shattered.
She revealed on the mic in front of everyone that her ex-boyfriend, who she was still heartbroken
over, had proposed to someone else a week
ago, and it had wrecked her. She went on for about three minutes. My husband looked mortified,
my mom tried to pull her off the microphone, and people were dead silent. Then she dropped
the mic and left the reception in tears. I didn't chase after her. I was honestly stunned.
I made it through the rest of the night but didn't enjoy it the same way I had imagined.
Two days later, she showed up at our apartment. She was staying with us temporarily while
figuring out her housing. I told her I needed space and she needed to leave. She started
sobbing again and said I was punishing her for having emotions
and that she didn't mean to ruin anything. She just broke down and didn't know what to do.
My mom and a few mutual friends are saying that I'm being too harsh, that she clearly wasn't
trying to be malicious and is obviously going through something, but I feel like she stole one
of the most important moments of my life and I honestly don't even, but I feel like she stole one of the most important moments
of my life.
And I honestly don't even know if I want her
at any future milestones.
Am I overreacting?
Go for it, Justin.
I don't think you are in the sense that
I think when people have the ability to walk away
or need voice that they need some space in like even just a regular argument, if you're just like, hey, this isn't productive, I think
we just take some space and preserve the future relationship instead of saying things or hearing
things that can never be taken back or things being taken too far.
In that sense, it doesn't feel so much to me
like you're putting out your sister
who's struggling so hard right now and just needs someone.
You're more for your own and her own good,
as well as your mutual relationship,
doing it with good reason,
because you're coming off of this so fresh
and you're still very affected by it, frustrated.
Yeah.
And yeah, you say now that you want nothing to do
her at future events and all this, future milestones,
but I think that's just how you feel right now.
But because you're mentioning things like that,
it's probably best for her to not be right in your space
day after day, just so you can get some space
from what happened.
Come back down.
Yeah, it sucks.
Like that's the big moment everyone like remembers
from the wedding and, but that'll pass.
It all, all the dust will settle.
So I don't think it's that bad.
Might be really hard for her.
In some ways she made her own bed.
She did.
But it might be hard on her.
But for right now, I think it's just it's good for you and it's good for the both of
you in the long run.
Yeah.
I don't think she's overreacting.
I think it would be pretty hard to come back from that.
You don't realize how long three minutes is and you find out quickly when it's a really
bad speech you have to listen to.
And someone sobbing on a microphone, we're all going to have that happen at the end of
this episode.
It will be me, but during a happy moment, a wedding speech, I don't think so. Like, I'm like looking at costs for our wedding.
I'm heavily in planning and weddings are expensive. I looked at a catering menu today.
This place estimates anywhere from $18 to 26 a person. Do that math Lauren, 26 times
80 bucks. That's how much they paid for their guests to eat. And that's not rental
for chairs and table and a venue and flowers and a dress.
I'm very aware that weddings are extremely overpriced. Thank you.
They're terrible. They're terrible. But it's like, I understand like you, you're paying
for this yourselves. You want to have this amazing time. You have this great intimate
day and then she does this.
Yes, you're going through a tough time, but there's a time and a place.
I've done nothing but support you.
And on my big day where I need your support, you do this to me?
I'm giving you a place to stay.
I'm really supporting you right now.
And I don't care if she's had too much to drink.
The mom tried to step up and get her off the mic. And then she just drops it and walks
out in tears. Like, what show are you trying to make? Get it together. And I
think if I was in this situation, I would be very upset because it puts such a
damper on the mood for everybody. And you said you invest so much into it and
It's a day that she really had in her head that she wanted to be very special
The only thing though and and she has every right to ask for space and she's putting her up
but the only thing I will say is that I do see and get that it wasn't malicious and
So in that I'm I hear that on the sister side, clearly the sister's going
through some like shit, maybe even mental health stuff, like to feel comfortable enough
to do that up in a wedding. Like maybe there's something else going on.
That's true.
But at the same time,
Thanks, Lauren.
What?
Thanks for being the devil's advocate. I was being maybe a little too harsh.
Well, no, but I mean, at the same time, this is the part that actually that turns me back
on to being again, frustrated with the sister is that she's like, Oh, you're going to punish
me for having emotions?
No, that's not what's going on here.
She's upset because you took away a lot from a really beautiful moment from her and the
fact that you're not coming to her saying, I am so sorry. Like I am going through a lot and that was the wrong time to do it. And I,
I can't even express how sorry I am for deciding to do that then and there.
Then we would have a different story to talk about. But the fact that she's kind of like,
well, what are you going to punish me for being sad? Like, I don't even think like,
and I think kind of back to your point, Justin, I don't
think asking for space is punishment.
If you're clearly communicating and you're not ghosting someone and you're not being
passive aggressive in their presence and you're just saying, hey, I'm really hurt by what
you did.
I just need some space right now to like, get over this and like, I don't know, work
through my feelings because I don't want to resent you I love you you're my sister but like I
need some time right now yeah and obviously yeah she she is hurting she's
clearly going through it but I don't think it's unfair to ask for space
absolutely not that seems really reasonable I the only thing I wonder
because she's like I don't know if I want her at future milestone moments like
that sounds harsh to me unless this is a pattern that she's done throughout her
entire life.
If it's something where every single time she has a milestone, her sister does something
to make it about her and put all the attention on her, different story.
But if that's the only time it happened, then I would say that that feels a little harsh
to never want her.
Like what you don't want her at like your baby shower, you don't want her like at, you
know, your future child's graduation.
Like what are you saying here?
She's just out now?
I think she, well I feel like it's such intense emotion that she doesn't know how to handle
it and it's blinding, like it's taking over her mind so much that she's not making good
choices.
Obviously it affected her so much that she didn't realize in the moment that that wasn't the time or place.
Yeah.
And then the fact that she's now coming back
and essentially doubling down by saying,
are you punishing me for being upset?
Maybe a little emotionally immature.
I think she's just completely taken over by it
where she's not even being rational at this point.
Yeah, that's what I think too.
Because the double down is what bothers me.
But I, even though I obviously, the first part bothers me too, but at the same time,
I think like, depending on where she was at, I think a lot of us can relate to being absolutely
crushed by a romantic relationship and not even thinking clearly or straight.
And maybe that was her moment, which obviously sucks that she did that.
Terrible.
But like maybe she was, it was so out of character for her that she can come back from that.
And you would hope that she can.
But again, OP still has every right to ask for space because that was a really big moment
for her.
And it would be hard to like keep smiling after that and have a good time because now
you're just thinking about that.
How do you like, how do you just let that go?
You know?
Everyone let's go dance now, I guess.
Let's pretend that never happened everyone.
Everyone let's rip a shot.
Like, okay, sorry, my sister sucks.
But it is tough and speeches happen somewhat early in the night typically.
So there, you know, I think there's a lot of stories of some speeches gone wrong.
So they're so funny.
I would, I would love for people to DM me and share some speeches gone wrong stories.
DM you.
I want to see them too.
Put them in the comments.
Okay.
Yeah.
Comments.
Okay. I want to hear about the worst speech you ever heard.
Or gave.
Because this will help inspire Lauren to give a really good speech at our wedding.
I don't, I'm too nervous.
You're giving a speech.
Okay, no one recorded then.
That's not possible.
That's fine.
That's just like the live show.
Is anyone recording?
I know, before we spilt you.
So we do have quite the assortment of comments.
I have comments right now just sorted default.
This comment has been deleted.
OP responds, yeah, but she lived with me.
She's seen how much time and effort I've put into my dream wedding.
She knew this day mattered, but still chose to make it about her.
Also she's not homeless.
She went back to our mother's house."
Another next comment down, deleted by user. And someone responds, she didn't mean to? What, she tripped and fell into a self-centered rant?
As mentioned above, she could have cut her speech short when she started to feel overly emotional.
She toes not to. Besides, she's not homeless. OP deserves a break. Little sister needs some counseling.
OP is not overreacting.
So OP responds to whatever that person said
that deleted it.
I asked her to leave because she walked into the house
like nothing happened.
And I need to talk this through in order to move past.
But she just wanted to blame me
for not allowing her to have emotions.
Yeah, not cool.
I would never leave her homeless.
She's living with my mom now.
Yeah.
So she was gonna walk in and pretend
like nothing ever happened?
Yeah, that's not cool.
Hell no. That's what I'm saying.
Like the follow up is what's the part that pisses me off.
Someone else goes, overreacting.
She's obviously heartbroken and not mature enough
to keep it together.
I was at a wedding 20 years ago after breaking up
with my forever love and it was incredibly hard.
If she didn't care about you and what the wedding meant, she wouldn't have been
so upset. It's a lot for a young person to deal with the first time. Get over
yourself." Wow, okay. Okay. We didn't go down that lane, but okay. Someone quotes
what that person said, if she didn't care about you and what the wedding meant, she wouldn't have been so upset.
She wasn't upset for OP.
She wasn't upset that she hurt OP or ruined a special memory.
She was upset because an old boyfriend is moving on with his life, something she hasn't
managed to do.
I kind of like it.
Her actions were extremely immature.
If she didn't think she could hold it together, she should have said something to OP or her
mother and they could have just skipped the speech.
Instead, she ruined something very special, not the whole wedding, but definitely that
moment.
Yeah.
Uh huh.
OP comments back to whatever the person said.
That was crazy about the overreacting, whatever.
Yeah, and I've been there for her this whole time.
I understand that she's going through a lot and I'm always there for her, but she wasn't
there for me on my big day.
Yeah.
Question, just asking for a friend.
If I were to somehow be very emotional on the day of your wedding, would I also be able
to talk to you about it beforehand?
No, I'll be mentally prepared that if you cry and have a breakdown, that's okay.
And then we'll just take the mic after.
You're a beautiful speaker.
You have such a way with words and you love us and you're such a big part of the reason
we're together.
You're going to give a beautiful speech.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What now?
Oh, nothing.
What were you going to say? Oh, thank you. Yeah. What now? Oh, nothing.
What were you gonna say?
I was gonna say if Lauren did that like this,
then we would just take the mic after and be like,
all right, everyone, let's have a party tonight.
And everyone give Lauren an extra hug.
We would do that.
Aw.
And maybe an extra shot.
Oh, an extra shot.
And then I'd grab the mic and be like.
No, my grandma's got that covered.
No more speeches.
There are a couple other comments from OP just clarifying that she doesn't have a history
with substance abuse.
Also saying, I just don't get why I'm the bad guy for wanting space after she made such
a scene at my wedding.
Yeah, a lot of people are really against OP it sounds like.
I know.
I understand she's going through a lot and I've been there for her this whole breakup.
Is one day too much to ask for?
I know it wasn't her intention, but we tried to get her off the mic, which is why I'm so
upset and wanted space, so I asked her to leave.
She's not my mom's house.
She's not alone.
I think this is so fair.
I think so.
This is so fair.
The only part, like I said, that I don't really understand is the fact that she said, I don't
know if I want her at future milestones.
Like that part seems harsh to me.
I think with time, this is so fresh.
I mean, it sounds like this happened literally like today's Tuesday and it happened this
weekend.
So like the same time at the wedding that we were at, OP was at a wedding.
In that exact moment that Kelsey was giving a speech for Sarah.
This was happening.
Yeah.
I mean, there's not much, many more events she'll give a speech at also.
I know.
Like in reality.
Yeah.
It's not like, I don't think you give speeches at a baby shower, do you?
I mean, if it's an impromptu toast, like the tap the glass kind of thing.
No one really did that at Sarah's wedding.
Sometimes people get a little teared away with the glass tapping to kiss.
That didn't happen much at hers.
No.
It was kind of nice.
No romantics there.
They did a little bit.
No romantics there.
Okay.
Moving along to the next one, but I would love to get an update from OP. I'm curious how this plays out and if your sister does decompress and give you a good
apology.
But we're moving on to this next one.
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Okay, everyone, buckle up because this next one is weird.
Yeah. Put your seatbelt on, a little father knows something style.
Want to buckle up down there?
I've never done this.
It's just, yep.
I've seen Lauren in Uber.
She doesn't really buckle much.
That's so false.
I buckle every time.
The only reason I wouldn't have buckled is if I'm like jam packed in there
and it's like a five minute drive.
Like four deep in the back seat.
Yeah, exactly.
Or if like I can't find the things,
but no, I'm a big buckler.
I guess when you're packed in that tight,
it's like that is your seatbelt.
That's not true.
Unless the middle person goes, well.
Your body's gonna bounce around and kill everyone.
Oh God, don't say that. I was just laughing. You didn't need to go that dark. I'm a pessimist. Okay,
this next one, I'm definitely being a pessimist over. This is coming from true off my chest.
And it is weird. Seven days old. Here's the title. My boyfriend took me to visit his family for the first time, and it was one of the creepiest
experiences ever.
My boyfriend and I have been dating for about half a year now, and it's been great so
far.
Never met his family up until this point as they live in another state.
This past weekend, he decides to take me on a quick trip, Friday to Sunday,
to meet his family. I knew he's from a wealthy, Scientologist family, but he himself is not
practicing or involved. He said it's not actually that big of a deal. His family's nice.
We get to the house, huge mansion, super well guarded, top security.
It already feels off at this point to me.
Inside the property there are people in uniforms, working around the yard and garden.
Let's get out.
They greet us but make no eye contact whatsoever.
I'm creeped out at this point.
I ask my boyfriend about them.
He says they're just staff.
I meet his mom, dad, and younger brother inside. They're nice. His parents are very fancy people.
Inside the house, there's the same people in uniforms doing stuff, and the place is spotlessly
clean. We have a meal together, and these people serve us. Think servants in movies?
They don't talk, no eye contact, the parents don't interact with them.
It's so weird.
How rich are these people?
I feel like it's like those celebrities, not going to name names, but...
At this point, I subtly mentioned them by saying the staff's doing a great job.
The mom says they're not really staff, but something
similar. She says they're part of something called the C-ORG, and they're essentially
volunteers so they don't get paid.
Oh God.
Rest of the days until we leave were exactly the same. I tried to have a chat with the
volunteers, but they only give short,
polite replies and then run off. It quite literally felt like they were forced to be
there. I tried to ask my boyfriend about it, even now, but he has the same way of talking
in circles as his parents about anything related to their family slash Scientology. They say
a lot, but actually say nothing.
The end.
What do you mean?
That's it?
That's not the end.
Liar, liar, there's more.
That is quite literally it.
This is really hurtful, Morgan.
I can't believe you do this to us.
That's like literally saying,
hey, I got the story to tell you.
With this one time I went to...
I mean, I feel like we got a lot there.
It's Get Out.
When does the tea come out?
When's she doing the spoon around the tea?
And then you fall into your mind and all of a sudden your brain's getting cut out.
I have not watched that movie since it was out in the theaters.
The running?
So scary.
Do you know what movie was also terrifying?
And I feel like Get Out got inspiration from?
Did you ever see The Skeleton Key with Kate Hudson?
No.
Insane movie.
Insane.
So good and basically Get Out.
Oh my god.
Oh, speaking of scary movies, everyone watch Drop.
It just came out.
I have two friends that wrote the movie, which is really cool.
I wouldn't really call them friends.
They're like acquaintances that I've met a long time ago, but I'm still really excited
for them.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
Let's go to the, oh, this already premiered.
Shoot.
Dang, Lauren, we could have been in the premiere.
Did you look up Sea Org?
Is that acquaintances?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's look up Scientology Sea Org. The Sea Org is the elite paramilitary branch
within the Church of Scientology, consisting of its most dedicated members. It's described
as the innermost core and is not incorporated, but rather a management structure controlling
other Scientology organizations. The Sea Org was initially founded by L. Ron Hubbard as his private Navy, with members
adopting naval uniforms and ranks.
So I actually didn't know that much about Scientology besides people just saying that
it was weird.
True.
Yeah. And I had a class. it was one of my mass communication classes, that was my minor in college.
And we had an assignment to go and spend an entire day with a certain religion that was
outside of our own.
And I can't even remember what religion I picked, but there was a girl who picked Scientology,
and she came back, like, it looked like she saw a ghost.
She was so disturbed, and she, the way that she spoke about it, she was like, I felt like
I couldn't leave.
Like I was scared to leave.
Every time I tried to leave, they would force me to go to a new place.
They would tell me, like, they would make me do these tests.
Oh my God.
And say that I had aliens that were attached to me and that I would have to pay X amount
of money in order to get these aliens like detached from me.
And she's like, I had so much homework to do that night that I was like getting anxious
about leaving to do my homework.
And she's like, and they just kept having a reason to push me to another place to not
leave. And she's like, I, it
was so the way she described it and the way that her face was like the color drained out
of it.
It was like PTSD for her retelling the story.
Yeah. Cause we had a present on it and she was like, I don't even want to talk about
it. Oh my God. Why would the teacher let her like, that's kind of a safety hazard. We didn't
ask. You don't ask the teacher which religion you do before you do it.
Like you just go and pick a religion that's outside of your own and just like, and learn
about it.
Like go and tell them kind of weird because like they, you kind of just go and tell them
that you're kind of interested in what they do, but it makes them think that you're interested
in joining their religion.
So they, you know, like.
That's exactly what a cult wants to hear.
Holy shit. But anyway, I'm like scared reading this story. I'm like, are they going to come for us?
Do we have to cut this one? No, I think they, they stay to themselves. I think.
So I'm open to other religions, you know, like I don't, I don't like judge people, but Scientology is something that I just like won't get behind.
No offense to you Scientologists out there.
Don't come for us.
So what's, it's giving forced labor.
But at the same time, they're under some spell that they think they're there doing this to
then get something. So they're there
willingly doing the work willingly, but like, but like brainwashedly, but it's just like
a disguised form of like slavery almost. Yeah, I think that's a cult. Because really do they ever end up with that gain that they're hoping for?
And when, and then when they get it, I don't know, your boy is doing some research tonight.
I mean-
It's really odd, Justin.
Like you should research it because this guy, Ron whatever, L Hubbard, I forget his name.
He was like a novelist.
He literally would write fiction books.
Like that was his thing. And then created this... About space and aliens.
Yeah, and then he created this religion and said it was truth and people just said, okay, I don't know how that even works.
How did I would I would love if I was that convincing. Holy shit.
I mean the space and aliens thing does intrigue me. Not gonna lie. But at the same time... But they were fiction books.
I know I'm kidding. I like, you know, I'm
a physics fool. I start floating off. Yeah. I, I just, without knowing, cause it doesn't
seem like she very knows very much about any of it, just like us. And so yeah, it would be just very uncomfortable.
And I probably wouldn't go back and I'd probably be real re-evaluating when I'm trying to ask my
partner stuff and they're giving me this run around. We all know what that's like.
We've all been deflected. I think he's lying.
Yeah. Well, they're all lying. The whole family's lying.
We don't know what's happening, but it's just weird.
I don't know.
I just wanna, I wanna go into the basement.
What's in the basement?
Definitely talking about places.
Like where's the tea?
Where's the surgery?
Where's the operating room?
Whoa, I might need to watch that movie again.
Tonight, watch it by yourself.
No.
When Brian's out of town.
No, with you guys tonight.
Let's do it.
Let's go.
Top comment on this one.
I live near Clearwater where one of the Scientology capitals is.
Those aren't people to mingle with.
I'm sure you love your boyfriend, but his lack of participation is most definitely not
known to his parents.
They would have exiled him.
That situation is a ticking time bomb.
Next comment down. Or he's lying to OP about
how involved he is.
That's what I think is happening.
Yeah, because he's trying to recruit her.
Oh, mm-hmm.
That's not a big deal, babe. Come on.
Was Get Out based on Scientology and then they switched into the brain thing? The like getting
a younger body thing?
I love your typing as you look away.
Let's figure that out.
Or it's just based on cult vibes.
I'm not seeing anything about Get Out being based on Scientology.
Okay.
However, I do find it ironic.
You know the show The Handmaiden's Tale?
You know that the main actress is in Scientology?
For real?
How ironic is that?
That's crazy!
You don't think she would have picked up a thing or two trying to fit into that role?
Whoa.
Goofy.
Is that... I'm shook.
Was this before or after?
Did she get it like...
I don't know.
I need to know more.
This is something I'm going to look up after.
I don't know I need to know more this is something I'm gonna look up after no
One so I looked up was get out based on skeleton key
One could even say that peels film plays like a mirror reflection of the skeleton key
Hmm, is there a chance that Scientology is not as wild as I believe it to be. Like, is there different versions of it?
Like maybe we're only referring to the extremists. Orthodox versus.
Yeah, conservative, like versus Hasidic.
Yeah.
I don't know if there's any Scientologists in our community,
please let Lauren know, but I'm gonna move along now
because I'm scared.
Just let her know though.
That one could be a DM.
Only me.
That one could go to Lauren's DMs.
I'm good on that one.
Oh, man.
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Back to a wedding drama one because it's that time of year again and weddings are coming
up and on the forefront of my brain.
So this is coming from AITAH.
It is titled, am I the asshole for flipping out on my brother for accusing my mom of wearing
a white dress to his wedding.
So here's the deal.
I'm the younger sister in a very complicated family and things have been tense since my
brother George got married to Yennefer.
To give some background, my relationship with Yennefer has been rocky from the start, and
she's
not exactly warm to my mom or any other relatives.
How do you spell Yennefer?
With a Y.
I've never heard that before.
Have you not seen The Witcher?
Anyways, the issue…
Anyways, the issue came up during their civil ceremony where my mom wore this beautiful cocktail dress that has a white base, but the overlay is this bold, dark blue lace with
ruffled sleeves.
Well, Yennefer lost it.
She completely flipped out and wanted to kick my mom out of the wedding, but somehow refrained
from doing so.
Since then though, every time there's a family conflict, Yennefer and George always bring
up the fact that my mom wore white at their wedding. Yes, she wore white, but it's literally not white.
It's a white base with blue lace. I can't even. Now, almost a year later, my mom tries to talk
things through with the family and rebuild the relationship, and George hits her with a list of grievances, including, quote,
You haven't apologized to Yennefer for wearing white.
I'm honestly about to lose it.
Like we're still going back and forth to this ridiculous dress issue.
My mom is genuinely confused why this is even a problem, and I'm just trying to defend
her.
I feel like it's completely unfair to keep bringing up something this petty.
And at this point, I can't help but feel like it's just another excuse to attack her.
Am I the asshole for wanting to stand up for my mom over this dumb dress situation?
I just don't get why it's such a big deal.
No, Lauren.
What? Your turn.
No, I pointed at you, so nose goes, it's your turn.
Would we like to see the dress prior to any takes?
Yes.
You know, this is what I think.
This has been a topic for so long now, right?
I think you should show the dress,
if you are like close to the bride,
show the dress that you're gonna wear, get approval.
Let's just stop making this so complicated, everyone.
Okay, I'll say something without seeing it.
Any white is too white, okay?
Why even go there?
It's one day you can find something that looks just as good.
Why does it have to even be borderline?
Why are we, what's the point?
So I've seen the dress.
And I can't, I just, I can't say anything at this point.
Oh my God, well, let's see it, show it.
This is the dress. Oh, that's blue. That's God, well, let's see it. Show it. This is the dress.
Oh, that's blue.
That's blue as fuck.
It's blue.
It's so fucking blue.
You want an apology for that?
It's blue.
I agree.
It's actually blue.
It's like light blue and dark blue overlay flowers.
Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue.
I agree.
We can get into the story now,
but I would just say why even be borderline?
Why even put, like, cause any potential?
No, you guys, I honestly, like,
so I went to a store here in LA,
I went to House of CB to go get some, like, dresses
for Sarah's wedding, and me and a bunch of other girls
were like panic buying for events that weekend.
And I walked in and out in a dress,
and I'm like, I'm asking the girl, I'm like,
I'm like, is this too white?
Like it's not a white base,
but like when you kind of look at it,
it's like, it's gray, taupey colored with flowers.
And I'm like, it just feels too light and bridal.
It feels like something that like a non-traditional bride
could maybe wear.
Definitely not, but like I'm in my head about it
because of all these stories.
And a girl walks out in like this beautiful
like corset skirt set, but it's actually a white base
with flowers all over it.
And she goes, oh, I was thinking the same thing.
My friend's having her bridal shower this weekend
and like, I'm, I really liked this.
And I was like, don't do it.
Don't do it.
I told her, I was like, don't do it. That't do it. I told her, I was like, don't do it.
That's too close.
Okay, now to this one.
This is actually a blue dress.
It's definitely blue.
This is blue.
Quite literally blue.
Okay, but what I said, I still stand by.
I think that if you were close to the bride,
like maybe just show it.
I think maybe this should just be the standard
so that they can't come back at you and be a jerk to you about it. Because if the mother
of the groom would have asked, is this dress appropriate? And then they said yes, then
they can't yell at her for it in the future, which again, it is appropriate. And so it's
absolutely ridiculous. But I think maybe we just need to make this be a standard so people can't hold it against other people. Let's just ask the dress, even
if it's literally blue, full on blue. Let's just ask moving forward.
I think if you're that close, immediate family, best friends, I think you should ask. But
like, here's the thing. There's literally a sub Reddit now on Reddit called like wedding
appropriate attire, right? And people gas like the fuck out of you in there.
There was someone who posted a dress and it was like the bride.
And she was like, my mother-in-law sent me this picture.
Do you guys think this dress is appropriate?
And it's a picture of this white based dress with gold flowers all over it.
Okay. And everyone in the comments was like, yeah, that looks really nice.
That's such a beautiful dress. It's not bridal. It's not wedding dress at
all. She should be able to wear that. People were popping off in the comments. So I remembered
that post, right? Yeah. I'm now shopping for like rehearsal dress for like rehearsal dinner
dresses and wedding dresses and all this shit. I end up on the Mac doogle website, same person
that made my prom dress. I don't know.
Designer, but like affordable.
And I'm on Mac Doogle and I go to bridal options.
Guess what is listed as an option for bridal dresses?
That same fucking dress that the mother-in-law was trying to wear.
Mac Doogle doesn't come up on a Google search or shopping and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You have to go to Mac Doogle and go under dresses. It's under bridal dresses. No, it's not acceptable to
wear to a wedding. Whoa. Justin's mom, I think I've scared the shit out of her. And I'm not
a bridezilla you guys. I'm like, I'm so chill. Ask Lauren. Yet. Talking really fast right
now. No, you don't know. I'm so we don't know you in a few months. No, I'm so chill. But
I think Justin's mom because of these stories and like, I don't know,
she's scared too. She sends me a picture of every dress she's like considering and she just sent me
like this light pink one. She was like, it's too light. I think it's too light. And I go,
that's probably too light. It's better than the opposite. No, I love that she's sending me that.
But I can tell because she's sending me like dark blue options. Yeah. And I like, I genuinely think she's really scared.
No, I honestly, I'm not even kidding.
I know that sounds ridiculous, but I'm like, let's just make that the standard moving forward
so that we don't have to deal with this anymore.
Because it's, I just, it's so annoying.
Like, it's so annoying that people, that this is like a constant conversation where I'm
like, let's just, even if it literally is like black, let's just send it, be like, is
this white?
Right.
Is this okay?
I just, for me, this, after seeing the picture,
this is not fit in the category of forgive.
No.
And like forgive, but never forget.
It's not one of those.
This is a no forgive needed
and should have been forgotten a long time ago.
Why are, it feels like Yennefer, okay?
I swear.
What are you saying?
Sounds like you're mispronouncing Jennifer every time.
The way you said that.
Don't slander the Yennefers out there.
All I think is that she has some kind of bone to pick with her because this is doesn't seem
big enough to draw out.
And no matter what argument comes up, this is like your first thing you're throwing back.
Even if you're in the wrong, it's like, no, you were white to my wedding.
Like no, stop.
No, let's drop it.
We're going to be done with that.
Otherwise this family is going to fall apart.
I mean, it already is like Jennifer has it out for the mom. Stop. No. Let's drop it. We're going to be done with that. Otherwise this family is going to fall apart because I can't deal with that shit.
It already is.
Like Yennefer has it out for the mom.
Clearly.
And we kind of find out why, like,
OP was asked like,
explain like Yennefer's behavior
towards the family regarding wedding planning.
And OP was like,
we weren't involved in the wedding planning.
Not by our choice.
We were excluded.
She's definitely not shy.
Everything started after
she fought with my other sister-in-law, Galinda, and my mom took Galinda's side,
and ever since then, she just goes berserk towards the family. I actually defended Yennefer
that time, but when Yennefer started a vendetta against my nephews, literally toddlers, I said
enough is enough, and then I became another enemy. See?
Yennefer is just kind of goofy.
A little unhinged.
A little crazy.
Yeah, they're fake names then, right?
Because we don't have like a Yennefer and a Galinda both in the same story.
Yeah, we need a full list of the family names now.
I mean, all the names are quoted except Yennefer.
So it makes me except Yennefer.
It makes me think Yennefer is real, but Galinda is fake.
Okay.
Yeah, that would make sense.
I'm like, there's no way that there's a Galinda in this story too.
No.
But guess what, you guys?
What?
We get an update.
Hi guys.
Some people have asked for an update for my story.
I tried to approach it calmly and used many of the amazing arguments you all shared.
He did acknowledge that it wasn't really about the dress, but more about the person
wearing it, which honestly brought me some clarity.
I tried to go deeper and address the root issues that have driven this divide in our
family.
For some context, I moved abroad to study for my masters, and shortly after, George
and Yennefer announced their wedding dates.
I wasn't able to celebrate or support him through any of it.
Still, I tried to reach for a compromise, traveling over 28 hours just to be there,
but their date was right before my thesis defense, so I asked if they could consider
adjusting it slightly.
The response I got was, quote, our personal life doesn't revolve
around you. That absolutely crushed me. Many of you asked what our relationship was like
before Yennefer entered the picture. The truth is, I always considered George my best friend.
He's five years older than me and growing up he saw the struggles I went through from
our parents. He always tried to shield me from it, and I loved him deeply for that.
I'll be honest, my family is far from perfect.
My mom has her own mental health struggles, and my dad is narcissistic and controlling.
They divorced when I was 13, and George was 18.
Despite everything, my mom fought tooth and nail for a fair alimony to support both George
and me, and I've worked hard to understand, forgive, and appreciate how
far she's come. But something in George has changed. Suddenly, we all became villains
in his narrative. The bond we once had, the years of mutual support and shared struggles,
vanished. Now, everything revolves around Yennefer being the victim, and the rest of
us are painted as threats or enemies.
I supported them from the start. I recognized the power imbalance and knew they'd need allies.
But the moment I pointed out that they too might be contributing to the tension, I became the problem.
I could say so much more, but right now I just feel numb.
I lost my brother and I felt completely broken.
Thank you all for your support, your kind words, and your advice. It means more than I can say. I lost my brother and I felt completely broken.
Thank you all for your support, your kind words and your advice.
It means more than I can say.
Damn, this is sad.
Scary how that can happen too.
All over a dress.
Well, not all.
All over a partner.
No, yeah.
Really, it's a partner.
Like a partner can take your closest friend, your closest sibling, a parent completely
away from you.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of context in that update that we didn't have in the original post.
Like, OP kind of alluded like, yeah, our family dynamics are a little strained.
There's some struggle there.
But like, finding this out now out now, I don't know.
You almost wonder, and I don't want to imply too much about OP's life, but we have seen
it in other stories where maybe that person writing isn't as attuned yet to what everyone
went through and George is five years old, or maybe George shielded you, and maybe George
is tired, maybe George is cutting off his toxic family, like air quotes on that,
right? But maybe that's George's point of view. Maybe George is done. And maybe he's
so hurt by the mom and the dad and whatever happened that George is like, if you're going
to stick up for mom and not have my back, I'm done. Like it'd be interesting to see
what side we get from George and Yennefer.
Yeah, I agree.
Out of curiosity.
True.
Yeah.
But then there's also that third side, right?
Like, there's definitely a lot of different storylines involved and we don't have the
full storyline from an objective point of view.
But I do think that no matter what the issues are that are going on, I think it's pretty immature
of George to continue to blame the mom for a dress. Even if the mom had other issues
going on and he was having struggles with her, to continue to bring up the dress just
shows that he also is not really there yet either in terms of an emotional maturity because
that's just like a cop out.
Yeah. Well, and he's now admitting it's not about the dress. It's about who wore it. Right.
So let's stop bringing the dress up as an excuse. Let's talk about the root of why you're
upset. Yeah. You hurt me. I want an apology. Yeah. It's not about the dress. You're right. It's not. Yeah, I'm still hurt over
ten years of you not
Being a good parent or that's how I feel whatever. He said that directly to the mom. No, I think that's okay I think confronted with like what people were saying on reddit, right? So it's like
It's tough like family stuff is tough. Yeah, I just, I don't think it sounds like.
There's a lot here.
Yeah.
They need to maybe do family therapy
or maybe honestly both sides just need to move on.
Sometimes that's healthiest for everyone.
Despite therapy or the deepest,
most connected conversations you can have, sometimes that
is just the answer.
You'll never all mesh together as one big happy family, which is a big thing to learn
in life.
It extends past family, friends, everything.
It's amazing to think like, oh, we can all go do this, but at some point,
you got to learn that it just isn't always perfect like that.
No, I just feel sad for OP that she feels her brother was her best friend and that she lost
her best friend and it's a huge loss and that she feels kind of blindsided.
Yeah, because you know, OP does mention they're in therapy, working through it.
You know, there's a lot here.
There's a lot of comments from OP.
And we would be here for another hour on just the story if I went through them all.
So the link will be in the description if you want to dive in and really do a little
sleuthing on your own.
But you know, it's clear that OP is trying to do the work and trying to go through therapy
and trying to just, you know, Keep her family together because she loves everyone
and sometimes you just
Can't do that. But yeah, it's I mean, it's a huge loss like you kind of said Lauren. It's just it's really tough
but
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Okay, are we ready for this next one?
Duh!
Uh-huh.
Yas!
Yas, queen!
Ah!
So, this is coming from r slash relationship advice, five days old.
It is not safe for work, everyone.
So if you are one of our little work friends sitting sitting in your cubicle, playing this on blast.
If you're doing that, I have so much respect for you.
I was gonna say, how is any of this safe for work?
Like this whole show should be a not safe for work.
That's true.
But actually play it out loud
because then other people can hear it.
But this next story does have that warning.
So I ought to give it.
Okay.
It's a good warning.
warning, so I ought to give it. Okay.
It's a good warning.
And so this next one is titled, my 31 female husband, 33 male, and I haven't been the
same since he moaned something strange during sex.
How do I approach this?
Throw away account, because people we know use Reddit and I don't want them to know
about our sex life.
My husband and I have been married for almost two years now and nothing like this has happened
in our relationship before.
We've always been very open with each other and we both like to hash out problems before
they escalate.
One of the first things that drew me to him was his brutal honesty.
We also have or had a pretty regular and healthy sex life, never having problems with infidelity
or anything of a similar vein.
In short, our relationship is more or less perfect.
Until the other night.
My husband and I were going at it when he said something pretty strange. Everything was normal until I heard him moan, whooby dooby.
I don't understand.
Could you please give me the version?
Whooby dooby.
Oh my God.
There's no way.
God. There's no way.
At first I thought that I had misheard him, but no.
He completely froze and looked mortified.
I was just confused.
Mood ruined.
Scooby-dooby-doo. I asked him about it, but all he did was take his pillow and leave.
I knew he was going to go sleep on the couch, which isn't something he's had to do since
we first moved in together.
Not going to get into that.
We spent the night apart and in the morning went about our routines as normal.
When he got home from work, I tried to bring it up, but he pretended not to hear me and kept watching TV.
It's been a couple of days and I haven't brought it up since.
However, there's been an air of awkwardness between us and I don't think we can truly move past this without discussing it.
I was hoping he'd be the one to bring it up first, but that
hasn't been the case. I don't know what Hooby Dooby means. I have theories about maybe it
being an anime character as he enjoys watching that kind of stuff, but to me it doesn't
sound like someone's name. If anyone knows what or who Hooby Dooby is, or has any ideas
on how to approach this with
him, please let me know.
Thank you.
You would think it's someone because why would, why would he be that embarrassed?
Why wouldn't he just laugh and be like, I don't know what I just came out of my mouth
to just like take your pillow, take your things.
I love that he did that.
So like he does it every week. Like, take your pillow, take your things and leave. I love that he did that so...
Like he does it every week.
Like, oh, alright.
Not in trouble again, off to the couch.
Yeah.
No, that's crazy.
Oh, man.
That's crazy.
I mean, if you search Hooby Dooby character, the only thing that comes up is Scoobert Scooby
Doo.
But I had no idea his name was Scoobert.
Me either. I wish no idea his name was Scoobert.
Me either.
I wish I didn't know that.
But I do feel proud that I referenced Scooby Doo, not knowing that.
I mean, this is so interesting.
I'm like, where did this come from?
I'm going to change the word character to anime.
Who says his name is Scoobert?
The author?
The original author?
Just said, oh yeah, his nickname. Scoobert. The author, the original author, just said, oh yeah, his nickname.
Scoobert Scooby Doo.
That's his real name.
I thought I had watched a lot of Scooby Doo
when I was young, but apparently not.
Yeah, that's the vibe, Scoobert.
I really don't know how to explain this one
or think through it because this isn't this isn't the norm usually
it's a name you know whatever yeah Adam Sandler movie it would seem like it'd be
an Adam Sandler thing like a whoopie-doobie smoke that droid like I
don't know it's it is giving that is anime ever not a cartoon I thought
anime was always cartoon right yeah I Yeah, you're probably right.
I guess unless you're at like a convention and people dress up like the characters, but...
But no, anime is usually always cartoon. So I don't know what this is.
Anime, isn't that like short for animation?
That's what I was kind of thinking.
In some sense, isn't that really... I don't know.
I don't know either.
Making up things on the spot.
Sounds like it's... That works.
It is a shortened version of animation. I don't know either. Making up things on the spot. Sounds like it's dot works.
It is a shortened version of animation.
Nice.
Look at that.
Nice.
Yeah.
But that's why I think it'd be a stretch to think that he would have like an anime love.
I mean, it's a cartoon.
But he likes to watch that?
I don't know.
But nothing comes up when I type a hooby-dooby anime. So I don't know. Nothing comes up when I type a Hooby Dooby anime. So I don't
know. It's so interesting he moaned it too, just like...
The thing that sucks is you'll never ever truly know.
Killtaller. You think he'll lie? Why not just admit it?
Well sure he may. He may. But you'll never know for sure if that is the truth.
You'll never know exactly what was going on in his brain, ever.
Top comment.
Only he will.
The top comment on this one is, your husband a sim.
Oh, I'm so glad someone else had this thought.
The next comment says, I was thinking has a secret Sims fetish, but yours is more fun.
Is this something they say on Sims?
I was going to say, am I too old for this?
Am I too young for this?
I'm missing the, I'm missing it.
Shoo bee dooby in the context of the Sims is likely a reference to the nonsensical language
spoken by the characters.
Whoa.
Known as Simlish. Whoa.
Whoa.
When they're in the bedroom together?
I don't know.
Can you get in the bedroom in Sims?
Shoo-bee-doo-bee.
Why would you be embarrassed though?
I would like think he would laugh.
Like, oh, it's plain Sims.
He said, hooby-dooby.
But I don't know, maybe Simlish, it's all the same.
I'm not a Sims-er, I don't know, I'm sorry guys.
Any gibberish just can be attributed to Sims-lish?
Yeah, now I'm curious what they sound like.
I did play Sims a little bit when I would
hang out at my friend's place.
I would never play it at home.
Well, no, I just, I think that I didn't have the,
whatever it was that you'd buy to have it it and so I'd play it sometimes with her and it was fun
Definitely was entertaining. Yeah, I was a club penguin guy. I don't know that is I
Was really really dorky and I played a horse game the horse game
It well, I played horse land and then horse land blew up and they sold and made it into a TV
show.
But I played Horse Land when it was literally just an online game like Club Penguin.
And then there was another one called Equiverse.
Nice.
It was super weird.
Oh my God, this just reminded me that one of my old neighbors, which I didn't know watched
the show, reached out to me and asked me when
I was telling you guys about the story when a little kid was running after me and my friend
with an axe in the neighborhood.
And my old neighbor DMing was like, was it so and so?
And I was like, no.
No way.
That's hilarious.
That's so funny.
A lot of other comments from people people mostly getting into Simlish language.
Su-sul.
Tacher-a-wulga.
Banna-snalla.
That was a good one.
Kahn-fra-gu-gall-a-gy-gy-gy-ga.
This is starting to sound like Justin Sun Teletubbies.
It reminds me of you in Germany.
Don't do that.
That Peter Griffin meme. Nope.
When he tries to speak French. Mm-hmm. It was a good time. Someone else goes,
maybe he just really loves this song. And they link a song that is titled Ooby Dooby by Roy Orbison. Orbeson. Maybe. That's weird.
Like why?
You just get, no.
Come on.
He's getting really stretched out.
But why wouldn't like,
OP try to bring it up?
Why did he get so weird about it?
Just, hey, admit it.
His secret boyfriend?
He thought he was dreaming? I don't know. Well guess what? It could be a nickname.
We have an update. Is it a nickname? Did you not hear what she said? It's a weird
nickname and I also like if that's someone's little nickname saying it in
bed I could never do that. Is that your mown, Morgan?
It's pretty weak.
Go a little harder.
Let me hear yours.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, okay.
Got him.
Got me.
Can't stand the heat.
Get out the kitchen.
Is this it?
Are we fighting?
Yeah.
That's kind of cute.
Did you hear that?
We have an update?
Yeah.
Waiting for it. First of all, I'd like to say thank you for all the helpful
and funny comments. They showed me the humor in this situation. Now, the moment you've
all been waiting for. What is Hooby Dooby? Last night after dinner, I sat down with my
husband and I brought it up. I reassured him that it was nothing to be embarrassed about and that I was just curious.
He was reluctant to share at first, but it didn't take long for him to open up.
For context, my husband is in a bowling league and he goes bowling with his friends every
other week.
While he does this, I stay home and have some of my girlfriends over, so I don't know much
about what goes on.
As it turns out, he's been thinking of bowling to stop himself from arriving early.
And hooby dooby is his bowling catchphrase.
Oh my God.
Which isn't something that I knew existed.
This is so good.
We could have never guessed this.
At first, I was surprised, but then it turned out to be hilarious and we both laughed about
it.
Safe to say I've never loved this man more.
Also, it wasn't Hooby Dooby that compelled me to make this post.
It was his reaction.
I would never let the words Hooby Dooby
ruin our wonderful marriage.
Again, I can't thank you all enough for the kind words.
Hooby Dooby to all and to all of good night.
Oh, stop.
Stop.
Should he say that like when he gets a strike or something?
Hooby Dooby!
Where did that?
I still want to know the origin of it.
I don't know.
Where that phrase come from.
I've never heard of a bowling catchphrase.
We were literally just bowling a couple nights ago.
Yeah.
No one there had a catchphrase.
You guys figured out how bad I am at bowling, but how it seems like I should be good.
It's really confusing.
We're going to go practice under different circumstances.
You were a bridesmaid. Bridesmaid? Br under different circumstances. You were a bridesmaid. Bridesmaid?
I was a breadmaiden.
Breadmaiden.
You had a long day.
We're going to go again.
No, that happens every time.
I don't know why you're excusing it.
We're going to go again.
I was a groomman.
Fuck off.
But what would your bowling catchphrase be if you had one?
Hooby-dooby. Well now. No it would be, it would be, um, noodles is wasted. Mine
would be Lightning McQueen's ka-chow. Oh no it would be the cha-ching. Oh my gosh, my little Shopify ad, cha-ching.
That probably would be.
I love that.
Cha-ching.
What's yours?
Maybe a fart.
You don't fart.
You fucking fake.
Mine honestly, you know what I think would be great?
I just whip out an air horn.
It's like
What about that submarine?
Aruga
Speaking of I just watched the Titanic
20-year like recap with James Cameron last night
Did you see the new lidar thing the new sensors that they sent down? No, does it make that sound?
Is that why it does they sent these two robots. Does it make that sound? Is that why you're reminded? Yes, it does.
They sent these two robots down, right?
And these robots spent like hours and hours,
I think it was like 28 hours, like recording the Titanic in LiDAR,
so then they could then take the data and like,
they made this room with screens a hundred feet tall to like,
It is cool, yeah.
make it real.
Guess what they named these two robots?
What? Romeo and Juliet. Jack and
Rose was right there. Oh my god. Did they get paid? Are they part of the Sea Org? Probably
a part of Scientology. Sea Org for sure. Speaking of adventures, how about them pretty ladies
in space? That's going to be new, how about them Yankees?
What?
What do you mean?
Like, all the girls that went up to space.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's all.
That's all I got.
Moving on.
Yeah, we're not, I wanna be, I don't wanna be mean today.
So we're gonna, we're gonna move, we're gonna go.
Next one.
We're gonna be mean?
To who?
Haven't you seen the memes about like that space thing?
No, okay sandwich me later, I will there's a video of just
There's a video of Jeff Bezos running around the space capsule and he falls
false. It's so funny. But again, I just I'm trying to be nicer today. I don't know. Anyways, moving along. I'm gonna pat my eyes now.
My parents have had a lot of time on their hands lately. At first, it was nice. Hey,
mom, can you drive me to soccer practice? Sure can. We're having slow cooked ribs for dinner. It was awesome. And then it became a lot.
Some friends are coming over to watch a movie. Oh, what are we watching? I'll make some
popcorn. Thanks to Voila, they can order all our fresh favorites from Sobeys, Farm Boy,
and Longos online, which is super reliable. And now my parents are reliable. A little
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Just like that.
Okay.
This next one is coming from AITAH6dayzold.
It is titled, Am I the asshole for faking a haunted house to get my boyfriend to move
out because he refused to leave after we broke up. I, 28 female, broke up with my
boyfriend, Steve, 31 male, six months ago. We had been living together and after
the breakup I gave him plenty of time to find a new place. He kept saying things
like, quote, I just need a little more time, the market's crazy, and I can't find
a place that allows ferrets. More ferrets? He doesn't have a ferret and I can't find a place that allows ferrets.
More ferrets? He doesn't have a ferret. I don't know why he said that.
You read the other story.
He wants noodles to come over and hang out.
Fast forward to month six and this man is still leaving beard trimmings in the sink
and playing Skyrim until 3 a.m. I was losing it. So
naturally I decided to haunt my own apartment. I started small,
whispers through the vents, flickering lights. I bought an old porcelain doll
from Facebook Marketplace and moved it to different locations every night.
I whispered, get out, Steven, into my phone, slowed it down 800% and made it play from
inside the walls via a Bluetooth speaker.
I even got my friend, who does special effects makeup, to pretend to be a Victorian child
ghost in the hallway mirror.
Steve started losing sleep.
He saged the place, bought holy water, and started talking to the doll like it was real.
Then one night, he packed a bag, looked me dead in the eyes, and said,
quote,
The spirits have chosen you. I can't fight them anymore. And he left. Goodbye, Steve.
He's now living with his sister. I've reclaimed my space. The doll is in my closet,
and sometimes I still whisper at it for fun. Now here's where it gets spicy.
Steve found out it was me. My friend posted behind-the-scenes pics of the ghost makeup on her Instagram.
He saw it and messaged me a very long paragraph calling me a manipulative monster with a flair
for the theatrical.
It's a cute name.
Which honestly was kind of flattering.
My friends are divided.
Half say I'm a genius and deserve a Netflix deal.
The other half say I should have just kicked him out
the normal way and that gaslighting via ghosts
might be ethically questionable.
Whatever.
So am I the asshole for faking a full on haunting
to evict my emotionally clingy ex?
No.
No, you gave him time.
Six months is a chunk of change. That's half a year.
God, that sounds like so much fun.
That's crazy.
Oh! That's scary.
I thought you were going to say, and then things got spicy.
I thought you were going to say he left and things started happening there.
That's me too. Like she invited it in. I thought you were going to say he left and things started happening there. That's me too. Like she invited it in.
I thought you were going to say things got spooky.
And so then I was like, and then the doll started moving on a toe.
And then she had to leave too.
Actually.
And then I thought it was going to be this whole PSA, like don't fuck with the spirits.
Yeah.
Dude, I, as someone who feels they've had a paranormal experience.
Or two.
Were yours? No, like you've had multiple. experience. Or two. What, yours?
No, like you've had multiple.
What's the second one?
I really only remember Palm Springs.
I mean, that's the big one.
That was, that one like was life changing for me.
I'm like, there's no doubt spirits are real after that one.
So scary.
So terrifying.
When you see lights flicker and hear footsteps down a hall.
You were like, that was during Coachella when we went and you were like, oh my god, we could
like stay at my place.
And I'm like, oh my god, no.
Yeah, well, it was free, but it's fine.
We got a free place anyway.
We did.
It was very nice.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Yeah, I don't know.
Ghosts are really scary.
I feel like she could have opened a portal.
This might have been a little risky to do.
A little risky.
But it worked.
I don't think the asshole, I think he had six months and he was not trying to leave.
He was waiting for you to rekindle the flame.
No, there was no actual progress.
Like it wasn't, you know, oh, I'm checking out this place.
I'm going to this place.
It was all these bigger excuses.
Timing's not right.
You know, the economy, this, that,
there was no effort being made.
Just comfortable, riding, chilling.
Yeah, I think that while it would have been maybe nice,
actually, no, I think this was the nicer way to do it
It's just sad that he found out
Yeah, why did the friend posted on Instagram?
Keep it secretive right close friends. It's a close friends is a better way to do it. Yeah
Before I read the top comment, what's your overall vote asshole? Not the asshole
Wait, I want to know what people are gonna say. Definitely not they're gonna say not the asshole Asshole, not the asshole? Wait, I want to know what people are going to say.
Definitely not.
They're going to say not the asshole.
Mine's not the asshole.
Top comment at this point in time has been deleted.
But I do have screenshots.
And it did say, you're not the asshole.
He had six months to move out and still didn't get the hint.
If he's emotionally clingy enough to stay in a breakup
for that long, a little paranormal push doesn't sound too over the top. He'll have plenty of time
to reflect with his spirits while living at his sister's.
Next comment down, OP better be careful though. By pretending that her house is haunted, she
risks offending the ghosts who are already there. I recommend using a Ouija board to communicate with the real ghosts
and make sure they are okay with the fake ghosts.
Yeah, same.
I don't think you bring a Ouija board.
I think we do that.
I don't think so.
I think we go home and do that.
Make sure everyone's cool.
Like, hey, we didn't, you know, we're not doing anything.
Anything you'd like changed,
we'll put up different art for you or something.
We just want to be cool with you.
Do you remember the story we had?
It was on Father Knows Something,
our other podcast that we do with my dad.
If you guys don't know, come over and listen.
But we did a spooky episode,
and one of our listeners actually can really connect
with spirits and made a Ouija board to connect
with a past grandparent of theirs or a friend.
And they said that you're actually not supposed made a Ouija board to connect with like a past grandparent of theirs or a friend.
And they said that you're actually not supposed to use the Ouija board from like the store.
You're supposed to make your Ouija board so that every time you use it, you burn it or
like discard of it so like the spirits can't cling to it.
So if anyone out there has a Ouija board, you shouldn't be using that one.
You should be making one every time.
How is it that people think that like a board
and like a piece of plastic is going to bring
like spirits to it?
Like how do people think they're that magical?
You're gonna have to test one out and find out.
You, you know what?
That's between you and the audience at this point.
You and Justin can go together.
I don't want none of that.
You've been saying you want a spiritual experience. No, I'm not calling out the Ouija boards. You believe
Ouija boards are real? I've wanted to make one forever. I just don't do it in our house.
And coming this month only, if you join Patreon, Lauren, Justin, Morgan are going to make a
Ouija board live and communicate live, but this month only. So make sure you go join on Patreon.
No, no, no, no.
So I may be trolling the fact that a Ouija board is likely not legit, but at the same
time I'm not going to risk it.
I ain't going to risk it.
I feel like Alejandra.
I'm not playing with that shit.
I think Alejandra's played with one in the past and she felt it move.
Well, okay.
So I think when I was a little kid, I did want to sleep over and it's always
because you have like 12 girls having a hand on it.
So somebody moves it between.
I think it was only her and one other person and they both were like, I really did not
move that.
Like the spirit moved it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This month only come to Patreon.
You are going to go and meet with a spiritualist and you can go on a Ouija board field trip with them.
I don't need to meet with nobody. I'll do it right here.
We are not doing it in any space I have to encounter.
Parking lot.
Too close. Still too close. Yeah, my mom, when I came back from that sleepover, my mom was like,
Lauren, don't ever mess with those. And my mom didn't talk like that. So that's why I'm like,
no matter what, I'm not going to mess with one. Spirits are out there, y'all. If you've played
with a Ouija board, tell us in the comments tell us your story moving on cave rocket power is that what they sound like I mean
yeah okay this one is coming from r slash advice it is 11 hours old titled
boyfriend told me I'm rushing him into marriage after five years of dating.
My boyfriend, male 31, and I, female 26, have been together for five years.
We bought a house together three and a half years ago.
Everything is joint, bank accounts, car insurance, et cetera.
We had a conversation a few weeks ago about getting married, and he told me that he doesn't
like to feel rushed.
The last time we talked about this was in September, and he told me that he doesn't like to feel rushed. The last time we talked
about this was in September, and he told me that we'd be engaged in less than six months.
Obviously, that didn't happen. So now I don't know what to do. Our relationship is perfect
otherwise. We usually communicate really well. He's very attentive and loving. We still go out together and have date
nights. He's told me many times before that he wants to marry me. I just don't understand why he
won't propose. So my question is, how do I approach this topic again? Or should I even bring it up?
Justin? I'm going to go first on this one?
Yeah.
You guys are so much more in a relevant.
Okay.
Well, here's my thought.
I think you can only take the words, I want to marry you to have really so much weight
because it's really easy to say when you love someone.
Yeah.
Oh, like I'd love to marry you, blah, blah, blah.
I'll propose and this.
I mean, he set the time limit on himself with that comment,
but you're already basically married.
Like you're sharing bank accounts.
You share a living space.
You're basically there.
There's something within guys.
And it may not just be guys,
but I'm just speaking from perspective.
I think a lot of times it's super easy to say,
and then, I mean, in all these stories,
there's a huge holdout.
What's the holdout?
And then, you know, I'm curious what he said before
when you've brought it up,
because that would change how I would advise
to go at it this time and ask.
But you do have some, I mean, I don't wanna call it ammo
but you have a lot of receipts based on
him setting a time limit, him making these promises.
It's like, why are you dragging your feet?
So are we at ultimatum time?
Like, hey, do you need to go figure out yourself?
Obviously that's very scary
because you put your relationship at risk.
Or I mean, I guess you can sit back,
but it really comes down to what you want.
And if making that next step is super important to you,
then you gotta kind of find some way to sort out, are you
gonna do it or not? Because I don't, I can't wait forever.
Let's hear your thoughts, Lauren. Well, I think that I would ask him exactly what his
hesitations are, considering what you said Justin, they're living together and they're
sharing bank accounts. Like, what is your hesitation of putting the label on it?
And just try to get him to be open and transparent about that.
Because something, whenever I was younger, I had a boyfriend who we were literally boyfriend
and girlfriend, but he didn't ask me yet.
And I thought it was so weird and confusing.
Why don't you want to put the label on it? And it like made me feel like he didn't care about me the way I cared about him.
But what he ended up saying is that his last relationship was so bad that when he thinks
of the word girlfriend and boyfriend, it makes him think bad.
And so he loved that we were just so happy and he was worried that once
we put the label, it would turn bad. And then after that we became, you know, we figured it out and we
were boyfriend and girlfriend. But I'm just wondering like, is it because he doesn't actually
want to be in the marriage or is it because maybe his parents had a bad marriage and he's scared of
the word?
Because like you said, it sounds like you're basically doing it right now, the marriage
thing.
So what is the concern?
Does he not want to spend the money on a wedding?
Where is it that he's really feeling it?
That's a really good point because I do think Justin, you were kind of hesitant for that
reason too.
We had a conversation, you were like,
you know, everyone in my life, like everyone's gotten divorced. So like marriage is like
kind of like this big thing that's like kind of scary. Like my parents, my aunt and uncle,
like, like everyone has.
It almost kind of feels like a curse rather than like a good thing. If you, if you go
through that.
Yeah. So that's why he was hesitant,
but yet was still saying like, no, this is what I want.
Like it is important, but like he was so nervous for that
because almost like that where it's like,
when you go from boyfriend and girlfriend to then married,
what if it changes and what if it gets bad
because everything I've seen is bad.
Right.
So maybe it is a little bit of that,
but like after five years owning a house together,
they've owned the house for three and a half years. Meaning they bought the house a year and a half into dating. Huge.
Yeah. Joint accounts, everything's joint.
Mm-hmm. Girl, you better start
putting some money in your own account right now because that's ridiculous.
No.
But I don't know, there's something that's goofy, but it seems like
every time she tries to approach it, it's like, I don't want to feel rushed. But it's
like, but you said six months. Like, don't just don't lie to me because then it feels
like I can't trust you. And I feel disappointed and like feeling disappointed by something
your partner does or says like that.
This is not a fun feeling for sure.
There's a comment here from someone with 1.2 K up votes.
Dude will be two years into raising their second child and be like, don't want to rush it.
Next comment down.
This sounds like my coworker and they've been together for 15 years now. Next comment
down. Yeah, I got a coworker who has been with her boyfriend for 18 years. She swears
anyway he will propose. Five years is long enough. If he wanted to propose, he would
have already, I feel like. And this is a very, this is a hot topic because you know how many videos I see of girls like
breaking up because they're at like year three, year four, year five, year six, seven, eight,
whatever a decent amount of time.
And then they're like crying on social media, which is valid, but they're like, we broke
up and he proposed to the next girl within six months. Like, I was with him for five years and I wasn't enough, but then she was, six months and he proposed?
And this is that theory where like, you can be with someone, right?
And someone has like 80% of what you're looking for, but 80% isn't 100.
So you're like, ah, I don't want that.
It's not 100.
It's not right.
I'm not going to propose.
So you break up.
And then the next person you date has that 20% that was missing.
And then they propose.
But just that 20%.
Someone's talked about it.
But they're missing all the other, you're right.
It could be.
Yeah. Someone's talked about it somewhere. I was thinking you were the other, you're right. It could be, yeah.
Someone's talked about it somewhere.
I was thinking you were referring to it more of like when you know you know.
Well I mean, there's something holding them back, but there's also people that live by
like, why are you giving wifey privileges without wifey status?
Like you should only be giving girlfriend privileges if you're only girlfriend.
Yeah, no I've seen that trend.
We've talked about it before.
Like, Alejandra and I, I think, talked about it in an episode.
But like, it's kind of that, where it's like, why buy the cow when you get the milk for
free?
No?
What?
Yeah, I don't know.
What?
What?
What's that saying?
I don't know.
But it's like, you're already getting everything. You're living this married life. Why change
anything? What's the incentive? And then you get in your head and you're like, but you
shouldn't have to be incentivized to get married because then that's not right. So maybe he's
just not your person. If it's something that's important to you.
Well that's why I just think it's like about getting to the bottom of it. Like, is it that he's just too hesitant because he's not sure about her?
Or is it because he is scared of the word because it's like, you know what I mean?
Is there something going on psychologically with him?
Or is it the fact that he just doesn't think that she's the right person?
So we have some comments from OP.
Let's hear it.
Well, I guess these were the answers I was expecting, LOL.
One, no, we don't have kids.
Two, we make roughly the same amount of money.
Three, marriage isn't a deal breaker for me.
Just confused on why he says he wants to and then doesn't.
Four, joining bank accounts was a decision made with the insight of my dad.
Probably not the best advice, I'll be honest, LOL.
No, it is not.
And go put money in your own account.
And then mortgage expenses and shared expenses in a joint.
Thank you.
Five, bought the house because we got a great deal.
Six, our relationship is good.
Thank you all for the replies.
Negative two upvotes right now. Someone replies back to OP. If he wanted to, he would.
Next comment down. Well, he has all the perks of a live-in maid and cook, even if he pitches
in. It's still not doing everything himself like he would need to. He's got a place to
live that I bet neither of you could afford by yourselves, and he's
got dink money, dual income, no kids.
You two are basically roommates with privileges.
This almost never turns out the way you were hoping.
You are not living in a Hallmark movie.
You two need to have a very civil, very adult conversation."
That feels like a little bit of tough love.
Kinda liked it.
Yes, but I think you can also fall somewhere in the middle
where she just said, hey, it's not a deal breaker for me.
And if it's not, then-
What's the issue?
Yeah, you're just, well, you're just kind of like,
what's the deal with this?
Because if you hadn't ever brought it up
and made it a point like, oh, I'm going to propose to you.
I'm going to marry you.
And then it never happens.
You're just kind of like, you know, like what?
Yeah, it's more so the false promises,
which is what I have a problem with.
I think for me, I have a problem with people
when they say they're going to do something
and then they don't.
And it just feels like such a letdown. And maybe that's on me and my trauma but I'm triggered.
I don't think you wanting people to do what they say they're gonna do is like a
trauma response. I think that's pretty normal. Thank you. Yeah. I've been calling
my mom, I called my mom every day this week and I'm like, hey did you talk to
your friend about the beer donkey and the camel?
And she's like, she's not calling me back.
And I'm like, ugh, this is why I feel like I can't depend on anyone.
I have to do everything myself.
It's my trauma.
I'm like, I need the beer, bro.
This is my Bridezilla moment.
Where's my beer donkey?
It's coming.
It's starting now. It's brewing. No, I'll just buy my beer donkey? It's coming. It's starting now. It's brewing.
No.
I'll just buy my own donkey.
They're not expensive.
And then do what with it?
I'm going to live at our house.
With noodles?
I'm not getting a ferret.
I want noodles.
OP does have a few more comments here.
I think it's more so the not sticking to his word is what I'm bothered by.
Don't get me wrong. I want to get married.
But I think I could look past it if he would straight up tell me he doesn't want to get
married.
I always get an answer of one day or eventually, like just tell me that you don't want to get
married and then let's move on.
But you just said...
It wasn't a deal breaker.
I want to get married. OP, right here. You just said, I want to get married.
OP, right here, you just said, don't get me wrong, I want to get married.
But you're also saying it's not a deal breaker.
I think that still works.
I don't know.
OP also adds, I never said anything about wanting a wedding, but we've already talked
about that.
My dad owns land.
Going to have a little thing out there.
Potluck situation with our families, alcohol, some music.
Definitely less than what we spent to buy a house, LOL.
Which she's not wanting much.
So he just doesn't want to marry you.
And if you do want to get married, why settle? Why settle?
Do we have updates?
No updates.
Ugh.
No updates. OP's account is ironically titled, Fuck Me Sideways, Bro.
Wow.
Nice.
Seems like a real account. OP shared a picture of their cat.
Very cute black cat with bright yellow eyes.
They look yellow to me.
Very cute cat though.
Oh, that's a man.
I love black cats.
That is an old man.
That's not a cat.
I love a black cat.
Dude, people need to stop making those AIs of their animals.
It is creepy, disgusting.
Oh my God, I saw one of the best ones the other day.
I don't want to see what your dog looks like as a human.
It's hilarious.
I'm going to find it.
But moving on to our last story of the night.
Okalitokaly.
Howdy, neighbor.
Hooby dooby.
Are we ready?
Tissues? Yes, I do have tissues ready.
I will try to get through this.
I'm reading this with a point today.
See when you prep me, I probably won't cry.
Okay, well.
So if you wanted tears, you probably just lost them.
No, I really do want to keep it together.
I don't love crying during these stories, but they're very emotional sometimes.
I want to read this story because I think there's so much amazing, amazing support and
love in this community.
And I think this person could really use some.
So this is coming from our very own tuhatakes subreddit.
It's 18 days old.
It does not fit today's theme, but again, putting it in because I want to.
Bonus.
It is titled, I'm 34, I'm dying, and I'm fucking terrified.
I have terminal brain cancer.
I'm not even sure I want to say what kind.
Doesn't matter.
It's the kind that wins.
Doctors are saying months, maybe less if things go south fast.
I've tried to keep it together for my wife, my daughter.
She's not even three yet.
My parents and friends.
But I don't think I've ever been this scared in my life.
People keep saying, stay strong, or just take it one day at a time. But how the
fuck do you do that when every day is just one step closer to leaving the people you
love behind? I look at my daughter and I wonder if she'll remember me at all. That's the part
that's breaking me the most. Will she remember how I made her pancakes?
How I did that dumb little bunny voice that always made her giggle? Or is she just going
to grow up with photos and a couple of videos and that's it?
I watch my wife trying to be strong and holding it together for everyone, and I know she cries
in the bathroom so I won't hear her.
We haven't really talked about the end.
We sort of pretend it's not real.
Or we talk in practicalities.
Paperwork, insurance, what she'll need to do when I'm gone, but not about it.
The actual not being here anymore.
I'm scared of the pain, yeah, but more than that, I'm scared of missing everything.
Her first day of school, her reading her first book, her falling in love.
Why did I do this to myself every time?
I want to be there so badly it physically hurts.
I don't even know what I want from writing this.
I guess I just needed to say it out loud.
I'm not strong.
I'm not brave.
I'm just a dad who's dying and doesn't want to leave his little girl behind.
Thanks for reading.
That's heartbreaking.
It is heartbreaking. But I think there's so, so, so much you can do with your time. There's
so much like you can do as far as like legacy building and writing letters to
her for big events.
First day of kindergarten, high school graduation, college graduation, first day of college,
that's tough.
Her wedding day, you know, if she has kids, her first little one, little one You got fired. What do you do next like think of think of any?
Any life event that you've just needed?
To hug your parent and cry on their shoulder
And write a letter for any of those events
There's so much you can do record videos record your voice, just give her anything and everything you can.
And I would really use the time to just build a legacy and just spend time with your family.
And something I really want to do and something like I really wish we would have done for my mom's partner who she lost
is I wish we would have had a funeral with him when he was here, like a true celebration
of life.
Get your friends and family together and have them bring pictures and put on funny slideshows
about their favorite memories and like truly embrace this time you have left
with your people.
Yeah.
Because nothing, nothing we say, sure shit, not anything I say, is going to make this
better or easier.
I'm so sorry you're going through this, but I'm sure people are going to have a lot of
things to say in the comments and support for you.
But I needed to make sure, as brutal as that probably was to listen to, that your story
got out there.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's also, it's good for everyone to hear a story like this.
And I'm glad it was submitted because I think a lot of us can get so wrapped up in our day to
day routines and our problems that feel so huge.
Your bad moods, the little person that cut you off this morning, all of that.
And you really lose sight of what you do have and I think when you know because we all do have an end but
you can't really see that end coming when that end gets a lot closer no
matter if it's something like this old age whatever it may be and you can see
that end coming the only thing you hope for is more time.
All those little problems, everything else, it shows how meaningless that is.
And it really shows you what the important things are.
Yeah.
Life is short.
Life is short and you just need to appreciate every single day.
But I do love what you said though.
The legacy stuff.
Because you will be there.
And by doing this, you'll also physically be there
in some sense.
Because we don't know what's after.
I mean, you may not be physically present
in this life that we understand.
You might be standing right up there being able to see all this happen and appreciate it.
But one way you can guarantee you will physically be there is if you do those.
I think that's brilliant.
And the comments are amazing community.
They were on it as well.
Top comment, start writing letters for your daughter and wife and your wife for
big milestones like grad, turning certain areas, making videos for your daughter, reading
bedtime stories with special books. That is amazing. I hope your journey is an easy one.
Next comment, sobbing. This is such a great idea. Wedding video. Put something together so you can walk her down the aisle, like a necklace or something she can wear.
Get her jewelry with your handwriting on it. Record your voice telling stories to her about her life.
The pancakes. Make a video of you in your kitchen making pancakes, talking about the recipe, have her there with you
in the video.
Yeah.
I'd record everything.
I mean, there's a 3D camera.
You have, it's a 3D camera.
Literally record this.
It's not even an expensive camera.
VR camera.
VR camera.
OP, if you can't afford it, I'm going to send you a message.
So if you're hearing your story, please look at your messages.
But we can get you this VR camera
and you can literally record yourself just walking down
like a straight line by the time she's getting married.
Who knows what fucking technology we'll have.
Maybe she can have literally a hologram.
So please look at your messages.
I think the other beautiful thing about VR cameras is whether it's a grandparent or
in this case, it's you.
You can preserve you, not just in photos.
Because I think that's what we kind of see of our great grandparents or something.
Yeah.
It's, oh, here's, you know, your great grandpa.
Videos are so special.
But it's not even just a video.
It's really incredible if you've never tried it.
If you take a VR, I think you can even take the VR videos with your phone now.
You can light R for certain things.
Yeah. And then if you upload those, there's a special YouTube VR.
And once you put them up, you can essentially, if the camera was set up right, I could be
sitting, she, the daughter could be sitting right next to him on the couch and see him
in totally three dimensional. And it's just, it's incredible. It's, it's
so much deeper than a picture or just a regular video.
Cause it's there. They could have dinner together. I could go to the store together. Like I think
record everything you can. Have you ever heard too, that when you're little, let's say you're
three years old, you can remember things from say you're three years old, you can remember
things from when you're three years old.
And if somebody shows you a picture of something that you did when you're little, let's say
you were putting blocks together, whatever it was, and they showed you this picture and
they keep showing this picture, you keep that memory. Like you remember, you actually remember building blocks
as like a three-year-old because you keep,
you are constantly reminded of it from this picture,
but you actually, you remember it.
Because you're reconfirming the memory.
Exactly.
Committing it to long-term versus short-term.
It's crazy when you do reconnect.
Oh my God, it's that feeling of when you actually connect
with something that for like your
real life right now, you think you've forgotten.
And then you see a photo and you actually connect with that.
It's I don't know.
That's like supernatural feeling.
I know.
There's something I've actually been working on with my grandma too.
And there's a couple of different companies that do this, but I think it'd be really important
to like also write your story down. There's journals that'll prompt you with questions that you
don't know that you would even think about, but she'll want to know both. She'll want
to know your time together. She'll want to know your story, how you met her mom, what
dating was like, everything. Just try to do as much as you're able to. You're dealing
with a lot and everything like just try to do as much as you're able to I get you know you're dealing with a lot and everything like that but and also make sure to do things that you really
want to do oh my god yeah you want to be a part of a flash mob go do that like I think
it's like maybe a really I don't the bucket list of it all. Yeah. The bucket list.
I went skydiving.
That song.
That song's a good one.
But I did just try to message OP and account has been suspended.
How long ago was this posted?
This was only posted 18 days ago.
Why was the account suspended? I have no further explanation, except Reddit has suspended this account.
I don't understand how Reddit works.
I'm sorry.
I don't get it.
So OP, if you're out there listening, please send Justin a DM on Instagram.
He sees his DMs actually.
I would love to make sure you can get a VR camera or one of these journals or something
that you find meaningful.
So please send us a message.
But thank you all so, so, so much for being here.
Another episode, another week.
Please please please go to the comments and share any thoughts you have for these writers,
especially our last one.
I will be sure to include all the links
in the description, but as you know, account for the last one has been suspended. So I'm
sure they'll be watching and looking and support like this when the community comes together
behind you. Like we've seen it again in story after story. Like these OPs do appreciate
it. They do feel it. So I know you guys will come through on this one.
And I would just say, I want to thank you guys too, because it's so beautiful that there
is a community here and that's you guys.
You guys created this safe place for somebody to come and express their biggest fears and
look for support and you guys show up for them.
So thank you guys for being amazing.
It's truly incredible.
We have a really special community here.
Really special.
Yes, you guys are the best.
Thank you.
On that note, until next time.
Until next time.
Until next time. Bye guys. Thanks for watching!