Two In The Think Tank - 424 - "DEPRESSION GUN"
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Boots. Boots. Boots. Boots. Boots. Boots. Hello and welcome to Two in the Think Tank, the show where we come up with five sketch ideas. Five sketch ideas.
I'm Andy?
And I'm definitely Alistair George William Thiryambilay Bearchiel.
Andy, so this was the dream.
Did we say, oh, this is the podcast we come up with five sketch ideas?
We already said that. I did say that, yeah. Oh, this is the podcast we come up with five sketch ideas. We already said that yeah Yeah, oh, this is the dream and he said I should tell them that I had a dream a couple nights ago
And I was like a fish or something
and
The French were chasing us, but I was like a fish
But I was part of a group and we were all
Shapeshifters and the French in the like a like an old wooden galley of some sort were after us
Right and as they got close I kind of like shape shifted into like
You know either a bigger fish like a you know a marlin or something like that
And then they kind of got away and I was like yes
But then they kept coming and then I shape shifted into like a bird and they flew up
And I was like I remember seeing them above them and they were like, suddenly they were throwing nets
up in the sky and I was like, and I had this realization,
I was like, they're never gonna stop.
That's how they win, they're just gonna keep going.
They're gonna keep going until we're all gone.
Until we're all gone.
Wow, sounds like you might have been briefly possessed by some sort of spirit animal of
an indigenous culture maybe.
I mean you sound a bit like you might have been Maui, the Polynesian.
But I guess if there's the possibility of one Maui, then it means that the conditions under which a
Maui was created could probably be replicated and you could probably have many Mauis.
I mean that is the thing about gods, isn't it?
Is it like, why would there only be one?
Does seem unusual that like, but I mean, but maybe that's me trying to apply the principles of science to something that lies beyond the
dead hand of science.
It's not that crazy to think that if there was a God that created a universe, then there
could be other gods that created other universes.
And that the gods could then do battle and maybe steal each other's universes.
Yes, universe on universe. Do you think if there was a universe or a god war, like when
Australia joined Britain in World War I out of a sense of, you know, sort of duty to the
empire, do you think if God started a fight with one of the other gods, human beings would
feel obliged to go along and help God
the fight
Yeah, I
Wouldn't I wouldn't though but
But you might I mean I just don't know what I could do and the thing is that we would have to get in
Outside of the universes which I imagine was where they fight
Well, they'd probably be some sort of um
pan-dimensional armored personnel carrier that would allow you to to drop you off on the on the shores of infinity much like the ones that dropped our boys at Gallipoli. Well, do you think that
maybe it's where there's like a maybe on earth would be there would be like an opening to another
dimension to another earth like planet because God probably likes to fight with his
followers doesn't he? I think so. Leads them into slaughter. I love leading them into
slaughter. But maybe he wouldn't maybe God would prefer to be a general sort of
behind the long way from the be a general sort of behind the, a long
way from the front in some sort of command center, sending mere mortals in to fight against
the infinite power of an actual God.
I think it's quite funny, the idea of us all running, screaming at an actual
omnipotent god.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ah!
Ah!
We're all running in there.
He just loves to fight mortals bare-handed.
Ha ha ha ha.
And he just like, you know, he grabs us and he picks us up.
He's huge. And he like lays us you know, he grabs us and he picks us up. He's huge.
And he like lays us over one of his fingers, like, and then he just snaps our back over
his fingers.
Yeah.
But I mean, the thing is he wouldn't just be huge.
He'd be infinitely big, but he has to make himself merely huge so that he can enjoy the
experience of snapping us like a twig. Yeah, absolutely.
Otherwise, can you hear my child currently yelling? What's that?
I saw a lost doing? You want
to say hi Andy? Hi poopoo mama. No! Oh no! Oh I fell right into your trap, Hux. Oh, I left myself wide open for that.
I'm sorry that you had to hear that.
Well, because I was expecting just a high Andy,
I left all my defenses down.
I lowered my shields and I gave those words
like an open path to the innermost layers of my psyche. Like an
interdimensional God in a war. Like an international God war. Exactly. I mean that
would be pretty impressive. I feel like a God would
probably have the kind of gun that if he shoots you it makes you never have
existed. Do you think they could come up with one of those in war because I mean
because that's how you get rid of it like are your eternal souls mmm that'd be
the only way I'll imagine that's a gun that kills your eternal soul does it
leave your body still alive yeah your body your body is still alive, but there's...
You just feel that emptiness.
You just get so sad.
You get sad until you die, like increasingly sadder until you die.
I mean, just the idea of a gun that makes people really depressed is quite funny.
A gun that makes people depressed.
It's like, you know, you have all the PTSD of war with none of the violence.
Isn't that the dream, you know, that Like they wanted to be able to make bombs was the H bomb that they you know supposedly or a neutron bomb
Maybe you can drop and it'll kill people but leave buildings standing well even better. What about this?
Just completely destroy people's
Leave building and people standing, but only their heads will be hanging down.
Exactly.
It's like a vegan bomb.
Like, that allows you to win a war but without killing any people or animals.
Just make them not want to go on.
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
I mean, cause you could imagine like hunters doing that in the, you know, they
like shoot them, you know, a mother deer of some sort and then they're like, well,
and then she, but she runs off and then they're like, we'll track her down pretty
soon and then she's just like laying down with a you know with like a
Snuggy and she's got just chips or whatever like that
Can't be fucked. I feel much sadder about this idea now that you made it an animal for some reason. Yeah
Yeah
You know when it was merely our fellow man from which we were stripping the
dignity and the will to live yeah it's see it all seemed so light and fluffy
there was an animal had children I mean I think the problem is you tapped into
the probably the very moment that I lost my innocence as a person
and I realized that there was sadness in the world was when I went and saw Bambi for the first time
and as a small child and was very unhappy.
Yeah, that's I guess the moment that I had my soul stripped from my body.
It's funny that there's stuff like that where,
I guess now in a lot of kids' films,
because it's like people are like,
oh, you know, you can't, I don't know.
Like there is a thing where it's like now
they kind of make the messages in films,
even like Disney films or Pixar films,
where it's like only the adults get the really sad stuff like
they coded so that it's not quite like that like it's not like dog whistling
is it but it's kind of like a dog whistle it's like a dog whistle but it's
but it's for like people who are capable of depression yeah sad and true and true
deep sadness. It's the black dog whistle Alastair.
It's the black dog Andy, that's very good.
Oh thank you.
Well you know I'm a satirist so that's why I'm so good at that kind of thing because
of my satirical power.
You'll be able to take down governments with that. Because like, you know, things like that where it's like, I guess bluey's
a bit like that. And you know, like a movie like Soul. It's like, daddy, why are you crying?
Well, you see, he's lived his whole life. And when he looks back on it, he is depressed with what he did.
And he regrets his entire existence.
But the fiction in here is that he gets a second chance.
Some of it.
Yes.
You see, but I'm reminded that I won't and every moment I waste is just gone.
And what to you appears as a hopeful component of this story for me merely serves to underline
the sadness and it's actually quite impressive what they've done.
Even sitting here watching this film is I now consider to be a complete waste of my time.
You see, daddy is filled with dreams, but also the inability to get himself to sit down and
complete and, you know, achieve them. And so it's a heaviness that I carry around all the time.
Sometimes it's that distraction.
It's that feeling that makes me not be spending
as much time with you as I could be
because I think I have to sleep at the computer
and do some work and then I don't.
And so then I'm not enjoying my time with you
and I'm not doing anything that I want. And so then I'm not I'm not enjoying my time with you and I'm not doing anything that I want and so then I get
really sad
Oh, but then that sadness does further stop me from being able to do things or enjoy my time with you
So it's um, you know, it's not all bad. Some of it is terrible. I'm happy that we had this discussion
So is that a sketch I think that is a sketch I think it is yeah
I've written down the black dog whistle in films
and I think that there is
There's a sketch like possibility to it. I
Think you know, I think also at its simplest it is a, it could just be a thing.
Very much as we acted out there, Alastair, with our incredible gift for performance of
a dad just sitting there in a movie theatre and explaining those things to his son.
Why are you crying?
Well, son.
And then you look back, he's actually not even watching anymore.
He goes, he turned into a cat.
He's in a key. He's a cat now.
Yes. Yes, that is good. He's a cat now.
Yes.
Yes, that is good.
Because in a way you're rooting for him not to fix his life because you're like, I don't
get to.
I don't want you to get a chance to fix your...
It's really yuck if ever you feel that way.
R soul. Is that anything? R soul? Oh yeah, I see. Like R-soul. That's right. You heard me. What category does he have and that's bad people just have
an R soul. Exactly. I mean ace hole is not that far either. No but that sounds good doesn't
it? I think you'd want one of those. An ace hole. Oh yeah. love a good nice ace hole. Yeah, what a B-Sole, C-Sole, C-Sole. C-Sole I think is some sort of liquid
fertilizer. D-Sole. D-Lasole. E-sol, oh, re-sol, okay forget it.
No, no, that's okay.
Do you think we can come up with a cryptocurrency
that is, that allows us to sell our immortal souls?
I think that's a fun idea, but before we do this,
I just wanna, no, I don't need to interrupt this idea
with what I was gonna say.
It's nothing, it's nothing.
I didn't wanna talk about that idea.
As soon as I said it, Alistair, we've come up
with too many ideas about cryptocurrency, which is something I fundamentally don't care about.
Yeah, I understand.
What I do care about is ideas like the one we just had about making children sad and us being sad.
I think the kid still even wouldn't get it if you...
That's the thing is that the kid still wouldn't understand any of it even if you explained it to them like that
Yeah, but then I mean, I hope you're right Alastair and that's
But I feel like that almost gives us a little out, you know
I feel like we're escape where we're making it not as sad as it could be this. Yeah
He's a cat and go look at me then you turn the kids head towards it don't waste
your life like I have sitting here watching this movie with you okay so I'm
just letting you know that I am alone with alone with Hux today so yes you saw a giant squid oh my gosh I can't I'm
gonna do this podcast with Andy Hux I that's the reason why you get to watch
Octonauts I can't sit with you running come here come here for a second okay
the reason why you get to watch Octonauts is because daddy's got to do this recording
So you got to not come and talk to me right now, okay?
What?
This is really nice though, what a glimpse Alistair before the the podcast started, you saw a groundhog.
That's right.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, hang on.
I have to go get some water.
While you're gone, I'm going to think of something.
Okay, here's something.
Right?
Speak to groundhogs.
You talk about the marmot.
Yeah, the marmot.
A marmot day.
That'd be a great sort of knock-off of Groundhog Day.
Or maybe it would have to be marmot 24 hours.
24 hour marmot.
There you go.
It would be great to do a version of Groundhog Day from the point of view of the Groundhog.
It would just be called. I guess they probably, Groundhog's probably just called Groundhog
Day, they probably just call it normal day.
So the film would be called normal day.
But then, you know, obviously it'd be the life of a marmot.
So it wouldn't seem that normal to us. But Alastair, what about a, um, a, a version of Groundhog Day?
Because that's what everyone makes now.
So we just remake the movie Groundhog Day over and over again, because we just
love the, the concept we did it with, um, Russian doll.
We did it with Palm Springs.
We did it with, um, Oh, what's another one?
That other one.
It's such a tempting premise.
Oh, it is.
But what about this?
You wake up day after day,
and maybe days are random now.
You move through time randomly. So it's just not the day after, Maybe days are random now.
You move through time randomly. So it's just not the day after,
it's some other random day,
at some other point in time.
Could you construct a narrative out of that?
So wait, so you, every day is a new day.
Yeah, but.
But it's at a random point in time yeah exactly in your life
presumably yeah so you wake up and I mean I guess in the end I mean it's
either I guess in the end there is still a limited number of days. And so, and so you would, you would end up going over them
again and again.
Yeah, which was certainly.
Well, I guess is like, you got to remember where you know, a
lot of these films are about the nature of infinity.
And so and so the idea is that they all get very good at living through
these days yeah well this one isn't that though this one's about the nature of
finity okay so you just get to relive your whole life but no you don't get to order life no no again you're wrong it's it'll seem
like you're reliving days from your life but some of it are days that you haven't
even lived yet but then you get different perspective so you get to be
old again and then it's so it's like it's like a mixture of Groundhog Day and
And a night before Christmas or whatever a Christmas Carol where you get to see your future self
Yeah, how things turn out?
Yeah, will there be a ghost leading you?
I don't know if there's a ghost but I think there probably would be a scene where you're on your deathbed
you know, so you're on your deathbed and then you go back and
You go and do a different day, but you can only ever do every day once right?
Yeah, and I think but I think getting to be a kid again You know on a random day and I guess this is how you would do the storytelling because there'd be various things where you would
encounter something that maybe somebody felt or an anger that he had or a frustration or something like that, that you could probably encounter the cause of at some
point when they're a kid or a teenager or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you would see maybe quite early on somebody on their deathbed
maybe filled with regret and that sort of thing. But maybe they have multiple days on their deathbed.
And so after flashing forward and having that first day
on their deathbed, they then go back and have earlier points
in their life where, with the knowledge of where they get to
and what sort of regrets they experience
at the end of their life
They then try and change other parts of their life and then find themselves back on their
You know the second day on their deathbed. Hmm, so they're still there
No, they're still there. Yes, but now
Things have indeed changed
It wasn't their final day and then they get to go
and have their final day their final death day finally die and and then but
maybe things are better in some way yeah or they just have to hold out not die
before midnight and that's when they flash to another day mm-hmm yeah every Yeah. Every time you're dying in a day you have to hold on until midnight.
And then you get another day. I think that's right. Yes. Yeah. And you can sort of zip away.
You know, someone will be chasing you, hoping to... maybe you got in some situation where somebody's chasing you, hoping to end your life brutally.
But if you make it, the clock ticks to midnight, then as they lunge for you with their soul destroying knife,
Yeah.
you flash away, you're not there anymore, and you're back in a different day in your life.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy to think that like
some non-you-you kind of takes over in that moment. Yeah, what does happen? But I guess
it's kind of like supposed to be like a kind of quantum like time is not linear type idea
like time is not linear type idea.
And so that you all time exists at once. And so you could at some point end up in that second day
where it's like, imagine that you wake,
like you go to sleep and then you wake up
and you're running and that guy's blade is just.
Oh, you're back in that moment.
Yeah.
You thought you'd got away with it.
Yeah. That's a good bit. That's a funny bit of the film
Right, you're back into the subsequent day
Think it's a good idea Al
Falling into place finally we can it's like we can find Groundhog Day, but not at all, you know what I mean?
Groundhog Day, but not at all. You know what I mean as well?
Yes.
We'll call it Marmot Day.
Marmot Day.
We'll call it, no, we'll call it,
what's that other one that isn't a groundhog?
Gopher?
Gopher, yeah, I mean this could have been,
it could have been a gopher.
Let me just have a look at a gopher.
These could all be the same names for this.
Oh, very similar kind of,
oh no, a gopher's definitely a bit- I think Gophers are different. Gophers are quite small.
Yeah. I went to the Gopher Hole Museum which is a sort of a quite macabre
taxidermy thing in Canada. Yeah. Where it's all Gophers all dressed up
in different little situations. All dead, but they're sort
of been put into, you know, the old west or something like that.
But you know what animals are related to, are related to the gopher, not the gopher
but the groundhog. Groundhog? That would be the beaver.
I believe so that would be my guess and
then the other one that is interesting
is the is the squirrel. Oh the squirrel. So the
squirrel are kind of like squirrels are
just basically like like tree gophers I
mean tree fucking groundhogs
They're tree hogs
Sky hogs their sky sky hog
Yeah, and so they're like this category which is like
They're they're rodents, but there are really tolerable rodent. You know, you'd like you can really look at them and not be grossed out
Yeah, why is it that like rats and mice, you go, and it just like makes, makes your innards, innards shiver.
I think it's the tail. I think it's that slinky tail.
Skin tail. Skin tail.
Yeah.
Put a rat tail on any animal and you would fuck that animal up. Like you would fuck that animal's psychological impact it has.
Well so you claim but Alastair I don't think you can just say that unless you're willing to do the experiment
and graft a rat tail onto every single one of God's creatures.
Put a proportional sized skin, like skin-colored rat tail onto a gorilla.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Onto, but not just, not just onto a gorilla, onto, onto man itself.
Yeah.
You know?
Onto, um, the most adorable of all
Because it looks like it is no bone in there at all. They don't even get to wag it It just looks like it just is a good point
I wonder if there is bone in there there must be bone in there
But you'd be like what's the point in having bone in there?
But then if there's no bone in there, and they can't they must be able to control it somehow
Does the tail do anything? I don't know. What does it achieve?
Yeah, I mean like, you know, you want to have a tail like a kangaroo where you get to like lean back on it
Like it's like a recliner feature
Maybe a rat maybe rats can like tangle their tail around and dangle off things tangle and dangle. Yeah, you know
Hang I mean it feels crazy to not be able to do it at all tail around and dangle off things, tangle and dangle. Yeah. You know? Hang.
I mean, it feels crazy to not be able to do it at all.
But then that barely feels useful for them.
Yeah.
Like, can't be, because what it is, is it's just like an extra, like it's basically your
body length again, giving anything that tries to pursue you just that slightly better
chance of catching you, right? Like a cat trying to catch you. There's no point having
this fucking cord hanging off the back that they can just grab onto.
Like a handle.
It's like a handle. Right? It's a rat handle.
And actually that's kind of how Sylvester or Tom or Jerry or whatever, they always seem to catch the mouse by the tail.
Yes.
And then they have this like handle that they can hold it with where the mouse can't like bite you from.
Hmm. So maybe that's it. Maybe they were designed specifically for that by God.
Yeah, maybe it helps. I don't know. Why would that help you evolutionarily to be more eatable?
I guess if these creatures eat you guys, because you breed you breed so fast if creatures eat or
Edible then the animals the predators become full and then they won't chase everybody
Yeah, that makes sense I'm pretty sure it'll sticks out but also they're a creature that often
Are scavengers, so maybe they need
Like they need to be living near predators
you know like oh wow and keeping the predators reasonably well fed yeah
alive so that they can catch the big score sometimes so that they can you
know scavenge off of that well you got to spend money to make money. Exactly. You got to spend money to make money. And maybe you've got to be killed horribly so you can live happily. That makes sense.
You see son, he's a, the reason why daddy's crying is because he's a mouse but he was born with a
tail and you see that means that he's easily more catchable, but there's many of them.
And so as an individual, he doesn't matter.
But for a group, it is beneficial for them to be catchable like that,
because then the predators from which they live, the scraps of,
they just feed them sometimes to fill gaps in them catching bigger prey
that they can then feed their
sort of mouse families off of.
So yeah, that's why I did pop up.
I've been thinking a lot recently about religions and how it is like an evolutionary thing,
an evolutionary advantage I presume for the gene pool as a whole to have these stories
that people are willing to sacrifice their lives for, so that you can operate as a bigger,
more powerful unit, bigger than the family unit and and go and defeat other
Yeah, I guess religion could be the reason why we're the last humans
Yeah
Like it could be an exact like belief system that it would took to wipe out
Difference to wipe out anybody who seemed like they wouldn't join some whatever cult
we had created.
I would say that is exactly correct.
Yes.
Like, that is-
And, you know, yes, it's a big evolutionary advantage to be able to die for a cause when you think about the evolutionary advantage to the species as a whole.
But it's the, maybe that's the like, or the species or the subset of the species or whatever.
But like it turns the evolutionary unit into this bigger mass that can operate like a, I guess like a hive or something like that.
And then I guess the nation, the nation and the concept of a nation also kind of acts as a
religion in a way for yeah because so many people are like I'm proud of where I'm from.
Yeah but you would say that no matter where you're from.
Where you were from.
And so that doesn't mean that that place is necessarily good.
It just happens that it is good.
And you know, but then maybe no place is absolute shit.
Maybe it's just a, you know, a leader that makes a place particularly.
Yeah, I wonder if there are any people from any places who are like who the, the
dominant philosophy, you know, vibe of the places, this place is shit and we
deserve to be conquered and defeated.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, that one country where they like, they're trying to get conquered.
Please.
Why won't another country that country that actually can run itself?
Why won't they take us over? We need a new culture. We need... they're just like
everybody's down on their national cuisines. Everybody hates their... But they keep making it. Well, they don't have any files do they have?
Save us from ourselves.
We keep doing this.
Um, yeah.
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And instead of having an army, a defensive army, what they would have, I guess, would
be some sort of welcoming committee. You have to go and do a national service for
two years when you leave school in the armed, not the armed forces, but the open
armed forces. I mean they would try various things to attract people, some of
it would be free hugs obviously like you're, you know, there probably would be some attempting
to seduce, you know, you'd be like, ooh,
doing little strip teases near the border.
But it feels like in a way that demands a sort of a level
of confidence and self-belief that maybe this nation
wouldn't possess.
Yeah.
You know, you've got to think yourself beautiful
before you're gonna believe other people. Yeah, they've been shot with a depression gun, so to speak.
A low self-esteem, uh, power. I mean, you know, just the idea that you could put low self-esteem
bullets into the, into the depression gun. This is a high caliber low self-esteem bullet
these are psychological armor piercing bullets not psychological armor what's a
better word for that these are coping mechanism no but there was like you know
you put up your walls that kind kind of thing. Psychological wall piercing.
I think psychological armor worked for me but.
Okay, great.
That's good, that's good.
Do you think the bullets are invisible?
Do you think the bullets are invisible?
Because they're so abstract.
Yeah, I think they probably would be.
But the gun does have a hole in it.
Oh yeah and there is a big recoil as well when you shoot.
Something is coming out.
Yeah.
I mean I guess there would be an equal and opposite force.
Do you think that, I don't know, do you think that it would just, even just shooting it
would make you just momentarily feel a moment of elation like...
You mean like a regular gun? Yes. Don't you get that from all weaponry? Even just
looking at it. Sometimes just googling it and reading the specs of the... do you
not have that you know you
close your eyes and you just picture the power in your hands I imagine shooting
like it like the depression gun towards like. They'd have to like have like. I'm going down. That's just him going down in a spiral. I'm spiraling. The plane's not spiraling.
And then you know, Mayday, Mayday. No but then the co-pilot has to like give the
pilot some ecstasy or something like that. Like some MDMA. Yeah. We're losing him. He started to drink.
It's all good Alastair. I'm pretty tired and so sometimes when I reach for
something there's nothing there. I had a feeling there was something I could add to that conversation.
And maybe there was.
That was some of the thickest songs I've heard on this pod.
You know?
I think my brain went completely blank.
Yeah, but that's nice.
It's possible, though, that we've got five sketch ideas written down.
And it's also possible that we would be doing the listeners a service.
Yes. A national service. We would be doing them at this service of going to three words from a
listener. Andy, well, it's funny that you should mention listeners because we have them and
and the listeners love to send in three words after that they've
given us a
Three monies
So why not I
So why not I find a word that I forgot to collect but I've got one now. It is from listener Brayden Douglas.
Oh hang on Huxley is here.
Yes Hux?
Brayden Douglas.
My bottle is dripping.
Your bottle is dripping?
Oh no was it dripping onto the couch? Okay, will you go sit on the couch?
And I'll be done here in not too long.
Thanks for letting me know.
I reckon we've got about one octanauts left.
Okay, we've got one octanauts.
That could be still like 20 minutes maybe.
Or maybe 12, I can't remember how long they are.
Yeah, I think that's probably closer to the mark.
Yeah, that's what I think that's probably closer to the mark
Yeah All right
Alright, I don't know who that Japanese guy who wrote that is or woman but that Miyoki Miyoki
I don't know those that person feels like they've created a
An empire with that with that show
That person feels like they've created an empire with that show. Anyway...
The Octonauts?
Yeah, I mean it seemed like it was a pretty big book series before it became a show, right?
Yeah, alright.
Okay, I had no idea.
Yeah, I don't know anything about Octonauts.
On the opening of it, it does mention based off the books of, I think, Miyoki.
But I digress Andy.
When I type in Miyoki nothing comes up so I could be entirely wrong.
Now, Brayden Douglas, long time listener,
not the first time word submitter,
but are you prepared to hear and guess the words, hear them once you try to guess
them and potentially guess them wrong?
Yes Alastair, I'm prepared.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Alright, well I'm ready to receive your prepared.
I hope Brayden is prepared as well.
Okay, here we go.
Um, the first word is cuticle.
Cuticle.
I should have said, I should have said, think carefully before you.
I should have said, think carefully.
I should have said, oh, and by the way,
the first word is not cuticle.
Yeah.
Oh no.
God damn.
I didn't, I clearly didn't prepare you well for this.
Okay.
It's not cuticle, Andy.
And I hope I made it.
I was trying to make that clear.
First word is stall.
Stall, S-T-A-L-L.
I can feel another Hux interruption coming.
A?
Stall.
Hux, you gotta give me a few more minutes, okay?
Stall. Thank you.
Stall, okay, second word.
Second word, for.
Stall, for.
Stall, for.
Let me look.
Well, you got the R right right but the second word is wart
stall what ah like stalwart but I mean maybe the last word is supporter or
friend which is it is it supporter or friend
I'm gonna say supporter. I'm sorry Andy the third word is
No, it's a it is Walmart
That's funny words.
That's a funny word.
Stall wart Walmart.
Yeah.
Yeah, wow.
I mean, of course the first thing that I picture, Alastair,
is a Walmart that you can go to
and the floor is kind of wet,
like the changing rooms in a swimming pool.
And you don't wear shoes in this Walmart.
So everybody's contracting warts on their feet, barukas. Now, it wouldn't, out of like, you know,
with Walmart's reputation, it wouldn't be that crazy
to picture all of the customers,
like the liquid is coming from the customer's feet.
And that all the customers have kind of just warty legs
and feet and they walk around and it just oozes,
warts all over the vinyl tiles.
Yeah but why are they not wearing shoes then?
Why are they not wearing shoes? What's the logic?
It's not part of their culture.
Ah, it's their culture. Where they're from.
Their bacterial culture. their culture, where they're from.
Their bacterial culture.
Yeah.
I think it's more, it's more just, I think it's poverty, I think.
But, but then it's- Is that a culture?
Well, I think poverty mixed with a laissez faire attitude.
You know, I guess you can tell that I've been living in Quebec for a bit and I'm
starting to say quite a few more French words
Lese
Lese
About lezo fare. Yes, that's when you let things be a lesbian
lesbian. Ironically, they're often quite hands on. Yeah. Well, that's why. That's why you don't want to intervene. You know?
I take a real like, you know, wildlife photographer's approach to lesbianism. And then, you know wildlife photographers approach to lesbianism.
And I don't get involved and I just take its course.
But do you photograph it?
No, sorry.
I mean, but you can see why someone might ask that question
Based on the scenario you made you created all by yourself Alastair
Placed on the chessboard by you
People who say same-sex couples and are female. That's not... I don't know how I didn't see that.
I have a wildlife photographer's attitude.
Oh my god.
You know, as I was saying, my brain was going, there is something wrong with what you're saying,
but people will get
it.
And I couldn't think of what the thing that was wrong was.
I mean, I guess the problem you're up against, Alastair, is that while on a deeper level
and a more fundamental philosophical level, wildlife photographers, yes, they are noted and indeed
famous for their hands-off approach to the actions of the wildlife that they're documenting.
The problem you face is that the word photography is in the name of the wildlife photographer.
So very often before people get to consider the deeper philosophical underpinnings
of the entire art form,
they are confronted with the practical reality,
which is that they do take photographs of things.
Yeah, I should have said retired wildlife photographer.
I realize my mistake now.
A wildlife photographer with a broken camera who's just recently dropped his very expensive
camera and doesn't have another camera like a sock on his ankle.
Oh, that's a good idea though. Yeah. That a photographer is, I mean, how does it work?
Do you think the photographer is being attacked
by say a protective silverback gorilla
and has had their camera smashed away by the silverback?
But then as the photographer lies bloodied
and beaten on the ground,
they are able to sneak a small camera out of their sock.
You know where I think that this would work?
I think it would be a funny thing.
Like, you know how they make films,
I guess like something like The Wrestler,
or about kind of like a dying industry
or somebody who can barely survive
in their own industry anymore.
You know, it's like the end of, uh, you know, I don't know, coal mining or,
or, you know, like a lost old art that's been replaced by a machine.
Um, yes.
And, but this is about the paparazzi that, you know, like the, they don't get
those front page photos anymore that are worth a million bucks.
Yes.
Sorry.
You wanna be a ghost what, sorry Hux?
A ghost basket?
Can you give me 10 more minutes and then I just gotta finish this episode
and then we can see if we can make you into a ghost basket.
I'm really sorry.
No, it's a, it's an interesting texture to the episode.
Um, uh, uh, I think you're right.
I want to hear the rest of that idea.
I mean, it is going to be very interesting for paparazzi when AI photography.
Just renders it all meaningless, right?
Like when you can just generate a picture
of any celebrity doing anything, how will-
I guess that that would only be possible
if everything was kind of being filmed at all times,
you know, like any public outing was constantly
being filmed or photographed, and then the AI
was just filtering through the stuff to find the
stuff that had any value.
But can't the AI just generate the images is what I'm saying.
I think that deep down nobody gives a shit about like an AI paparazzi shot because it's
not an actual sighting of somebody.
No, but I guess if you're operating a magazine, right?
And all you do is publish sort of expose photos,
you know, like when there were those maybe topless photos
of Kate Middleton or something like that in France,
you know, and it was just some paparazzi
had been hiding somewhere, being a creep,
and taking these photos.
I had a super, super long lens or whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
And now any paparazzi can just sit on the computer and be like, super long lens photograph Oh, let's see, Emmanuel Macron dipping his balls into a glass of milk on a yacht off
the coast of Morocco.
And they generate that image there and they got that amazing image.
They sell that to a magazine.
Yeah, I think it's the selling it to the magazine part that I find that hard to believe because
the magazine itself would be like, well, we can of course just do that ourselves if we
want to AI create an AI photo.
But they will sell it as legitimate, obviously, right?
The paparazzi is going to say, oh no, this is real.
This is my point.
The paparazzi will say this is real.
The magazine, which is model is based on getting these-off photographs that nobody else would have one of anyway
That's the whole point of the photograph
So they can't corroborate whether or not this is real and if the photographs are good enough
There's no way to tell you see what I'm saying. Yeah, I think so
No, you don't well you don't and you're not interested in in finding out. No, no, no, you don't. Well, you don't. And you're not interested in finding out either.
No, no, no, no.
You don't care enough.
But I think I hate AI.
Yeah, oh yeah.
And I don't believe in what it's capable of.
And it kind of just, you know,
it's like I think about mentioning it in a sketch
and it just, it makes me sad.
You see, son.
You know, it's the creative work.
People think that the computers will be able to do it
and then therefore that they don't need to do it
but they still think that they're a creator when they do it.
Yes, that's sort of almost the saddest bit isn't it? Yeah. The person who's typing the things in and thinking god I'm a good oh look at me doing the same kind of art as people who work
really hard on it but I'm a bit just that bit cleverer because I've found a way to do it it's just a tool it's just a tool nah mate you're just the tool yes yeah
what were the words again okay it was stalwart Walmart okay Hux do you want to
say one more thing I still just need some time. Can you go watch one more episode of
Octonauts? Sorry, darling
Can I I'll just go put something else on apologies and then you start on the stalwart wall I'm gonna do so well with this Alastair. Don't worry about that. Don't you worry about that?
Well, what about this?
And what about the opposite of a pharmacy?
A place where you can go, a Walmart, if you will,
where you can see arranged on the shelves
all the diseases of the world,
and you can choose your diseases.
And you can, you can,
I wonder if that exists, I wonder if on the black market along with all the things about
like all the drugs that you can buy on the dark web and the weapons that you can import
and that sort of thing, you can buy just various different sicknesses and illnesses and germs
and that sort of thing and then you, you know, not necessarily to kill somebody, but, you know, maybe you have an
enemy and you think it would be good if they had a big wart on their thumb.
And so you buy on the dark web, you buy some wart powder or something, you go around to
their house and you spread it on a few surfaces the door knobs and
That kind of thing and then you can just sort of infect them, you know, not again not killing but this is a kind of a
you could put it in a
In a baggie that looks like cocaine and then they snort it and then they get all
and then they snort it and then they get all warts up in their nose. Oh my god.
And down there like the back of their throat.
Oh, it's so horrible to imagine, but yes, Alastair.
I mean, do you think you can do that?
Do you think there's a website where you can go and they've...
Some Russian cyber criminal has collected various
different strains of various different unpleasant conditions, you know.
Yeah, and their specialty is they take various funguses and things like that and they make
them look like cocaine powder?
I don't know if it's just cocaine that they do. Cocaine lookalikes.
But you can just buy a sample of some sort of disease that you can infect somebody with
an enemy.
Oh yeah, like a biochemical warfare one stop shop.
Yeah.
But again, not to kill kill people but say you had an
enemy at work right and you're both going up for a presentation and you just
want to be able to give them a really bad cold. So not warfare more like rival
fair. Mmm more like um let's see bit of Bifo biochemical Bifo. Bifo-fair.
Mmm.
Because it's got to be a fair, because you're, you know, you're buying things.
Of course.
You know, warfare.
The warfare.
Yes.
Bifo-fair.
I like it.
Is that what fair means?
Fair means buying something, isn't it?
But then you don't, you you don't when you say warfare
It's not because you're saying buying things you're just saying
It's I mean it's it's does fair mean buying things. What's an example of where that?
means that
Let's see. Oh, this is good fair. This is good pub fair. We tried in good in pub fair
You know traditional pubfair, meals, music,
in a meals entertainment, we don't have,
we don't need pokies, we're a community pub.
We tried in traditional pubfair,
that's the guy who owns the Tathra Pub
from some video that he made about 2010 or
something like that with ABC Illawarra, I think.
That's the reason I really remember it really well.
Did he say the word fair a lot?
Um, yeah.
It was a path that he might have said it once.
And that's how I've based my whole knowledge of the meaning of fair off of that.
Yeah well I wonder if the fair in warfare is the same fair. If it is it really proves to you that
words can be you know they can travel a long distance they can do vastly different things
or at least thrive in different contexts, still doing what they do best.
But being words, conveying meaning.
I'll tell you what, if I want to convey a meaning, nine times out of 10, I reckon I turn to a word.
You know, it'd be cool if you could like just buy a cold, you know, like buy a
spritz of a cold virus or whatever like that.
You know, like buy a spritz of a cold virus or whatever like that. And then if you really needed to, you could, you know, spray it into somebody's like plate
of eggs or something like that.
I mean, you'd probably...
Yeah, that's exactly what I was describing.
Yeah, well, that's, I know that's why I was, I was, I thought I was praising your, your
idea by saying that would be good.
I mean, I don't think I would use
the service.
But do you, I mean maybe it would be good to be able to turn the cold spray on yourself
and give yourself an actual cold if you needed it, you know, in order to get out of something.
If you had a work that really needed you, you had to have like a doctor's certificate
and doctors became way more strict about giving those out?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Do you think that there's like,
you could picture a makeup artist
who could be giving you tips on how to make yourself
look sick for like a Zoom-based medical appointment
where you wanna get doctor's appointments I know you want to get it you want to get a doctor's
doctor's certificate sorry some sort of let's see what would you call this
person who who teaches people how to do makeup cosmetics in order to make it
look like they have say the flu. Would you call them maybe a makeup influenza?
Influenza.
Or an influenza, an influenza, influenza.
Yeah, I think that's something Andy.
Maybe it's not everything,
but maybe it's just the something we needed to end this podcast.
To end this pod, Andy.
Sorry about all the disruptions.
I loved it, and I think the listeners will have a good time too.
Hux has been a minor character on this show, and so it's nice for him to get an episode.
It's one of the Huxley episodes well I guess yes as the show wears on we run
out of material to do storylines with us the two main characters and we start
really picking up on some of the minor characters and giving them a real run.
Yeah a lot of the time it's like people just assume that we had kids based off of how many tired episodes
that we have.
And then suddenly for them to actually, you know,
manifest into actual episodes and for us to never edit
them out.
It's really good storytelling on our part.
It's a whole world, it's world building. Yeah. Alastair do you want to
quickly read the sketches to us really quickly? Yes I do. God is gonna be like a blaze of lightning.
Interdimensional God war. It's where the gods you know they get us to fight for
them or enjoy killing us. Gun that makes people depressed. We've got these the black dog
whistle in films. We've got random day movie that's like it's not like Ground
Hawk Day but in a way a little bit. We've got the country where people want to be
taken over because they're not proud of where they're from. We've got the dying photographer with a camera in his sock
that he can just take one last photo of as a silent
and maybe steal his soul.
I don't know if that's, he's getting,
he's getting destroyed by it.
He's being murdered by a person from a culture
that thinks that taking a, having your photo taken
steals your soul.
A lot of soul based stuff
It's good good soul episode
Then we got the biochemical where or fair or bifo fair one-stop shop
Or rival fair bifo would be a great name for a sort of an upstart
Arms sales website, you know, just a startup.
That's true.
Really disrupting the whole thing.
It feels like the name that like a Murdoch
company would start for their for their international warfare, like arms dealing
company.
Yes, because they had they had they had one that was like a betting app as well,
I think that had, but you know, KO, that's their one.
That's their sports.
They've had a few.
Sports, yeah, yep.
Yeah, anyway, Biff of a very good,
and then we've got Makeup Influencer.
Yes, Alastair, we bloody did it.
Good on you, mate.
Good on you, mate.
You enjoy your road trip.
You're about to go on.
You have already gone on by this point.
By this point, I could be almost in Halifax, Canada.
Gosh.
I love the name Halifax.
Yeah.
Love it.
It doesn't feel like a place name.
Feels like it's got, feels like no other place name
for anywhere in the world.
Just that X in there is just such a curve ball.
Yeah, an X is great in a name.
Very straight in fact.
And it's amazing though, because we have had intrusions
from somebody with an X in their name as well
during this episode.
So it all comes together, Andy, right?
And there you go. We're going to go to the song.
Thank you so much for listening to In the Think tank. And you're with the bloody melody there. A little piano solo.
That was good.
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Yeah, leave us a five star review.
I mean, you know, if you like child interruptions.
It helps people to find the podcast.
Yeah, oh, it helps people to find the podcast.
You know, if you're ever on a really big podcast, mention us.
Yes.
We're not getting to have as much time, you know, to go out and do big podcasts and stuff.
So you know, if you get a chance.
You're online and somebody asks you to plug your podcast, just plug ours.
Yours is probably doing fine.
Or if you're ever like speaking to like a national audience or you're like you're receiving
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If any of our listeners are going to the Olympics this year, good luck.
Is it this year or is it next year? Oh, of course.
We always wanna wish good luck to our Olympians.
Yeah, and Olympian listeners.
I mean, you know, obviously World Champs is fine too.
We're not gonna do.
It occurred to me the other day,
all the Olympians in every event
probably know each other really well.
Oh yeah.
Because you'd think that it's like, oh, it's like it's more like, you know,
like blood sport, where they all just like get transported from like isolated
lands where they've, you know, some recruiter has found the best from each
place, but they've probably been competing for tens of years since they're kids
against each other.
And when they pass each other going
like hey Fred nice shoes, how's the family?
That kind of stuff.
And they're probably training in the same advanced facilities somewhere.
Yeah, exactly.
They've probably got the same guy injecting the undetectable performance enhancing drugs
into their veins.
Yeah.
All right, Andy. know, performance enhancing drugs into their veins.
Yeah. All right, Andy.
Thanks very much everybody for listening.
Andy, thank you very much for staying up for this.
And we.
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