Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #210 - Joey Diaz, Paul T. Murray and Lee Syatt
Episode Date: September 4, 2014Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt are joined by writer, director and Actor Paul T. Murray live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Nature B...ox. Visit Naturebox.com and use promo code Joey for a free trial box Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by mentioning the Church. Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off. Recorded live on 09/03/2014. Music: Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song Aerosmith - Back In The Saddle Again
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Are you kidding me or what?
Wednesday, September 3rd.
Roll that fucking number.
Put the kid to sleep.
Tell mama to shave that monkey.
We'll get down tonight motherfuckers.
Oh shit.
The church, what's happened now?
The devil was buried in sea today.
Fucked in the ass and ISIS cut his fucking head off.
That's how it goes down.
Catchments in the room today.
What's the story there?
When don't we fuck around?
We never fuck around.
We never fuck around.
It's Wednesday, September 3rd.
Get your shit together bitch.
It's a whole new fucking day by the time you get this.
You'll be waking up thinking what the fuck am I going to do today?
How am I going to act?
I get paid tomorrow lunchtime.
You're awake. You got the world by the balls.
What did you say today? You have a big dick in a whistle?
I got a big dick in a whistle.
That's how I'm showing up.
I got an eye patch in the fucking back pocket.
Just in case you need it.
You have a great day. What happened?
You woke up.
I'm a little sick but I'm doing better.
You got to eat edibles.
I told you.
You wouldn't get sick if you had a couple of edibles.
I have edibles almost four times a week.
It's like vitamin C.
I feel fucking better here.
I slept. I had soup.
I drank a lot of water. What are you going to do?
I drank that Campbell soup. You didn't get some hot sour soup.
I got progressive. No, I don't have anything.
That fucking Chinese vinegar.
That'll get the flu right out of you.
That's why you have to have the hot and sour.
It's got that Chinese vinegar. It just zaps it.
Maybe it'll stop on the way home.
It's like fucking getting hit on your dick from a crack hole.
On Van Nuys Boulevard.
That sounds terrible.
That cures the cold?
The fucking good.
What's going on, Paul T. Murray in the house?
That's strange. I got a little bit of a stomach flu myself.
I just been fighting over it.
Since I got it last night, I was like literally had a crawl here.
And I did my own little rice and chicken soup.
A lot of old-fashioned stuff.
But at the end of the day,
a little bit of alcohol always does a trick better than anything.
The Irish cure I think is always the best.
That made me awake again.
Now I feel pretty good.
I love it.
Paul T. Murray's with us today.
Writer.
Actor.
He's finding out it's tough to fucking make a living in Hollywood now.
It happened to me.
Like 2007,
I was recurring on a show
and I thought I had the world by the balls.
I'm like, I'm going to be recurring on a show
going into pilot season.
And we had a strike.
And that was it. When the show came back,
it was a different fucking crime scene.
I wasn't involved.
It was a state of acting
and what's going on in California.
And everything turned around.
And it's amazing how
even as you people are at home,
you watch TV and you see these stars
on television now.
They're on TV shows.
Regular people who would not work TV shows.
So within that,
and the movies aren't getting made,
guys like you and I just don't work like we used anymore.
No, it's a kind of tragedy
ever since the recession kicked in in 2008.
I mean, it's
wiped out the middle class in Hollywood
as it did middle class in America.
And
the studios
have become totally
corporate driven
which I call moron movies.
Comic strip, just
movies targeting
a 12 year old mentality.
That's pretty much all they do now.
And
the middle budget
movies that used to be at least artistic for adults
or whatever, that money's not there anymore.
And then at the lower range
you have the ultra low budget stuff which is
pretty decent, but
again, you can't make a living on a hundred bucks a day.
Is it coming back though?
Cause I know it's like AMC and a lot of the bigger theaters
are starting to show
more independent films or they're trying to do that.
Is that helping you out at all or not really?
A little bit.
But I mean, the studios
have it monopolized as always.
Have you thought about
or have you been approached
to do anything for online?
Since it's, you don't really need the...
No, I don't understand
the whole online thing.
You know,
like the web series and things like that.
Yeah, it just seems like that's where
stuff is going. You could probably do some stuff without the studio.
I know, I just don't know where the money
is in it.
Do you know where the money is in these web
assault things? I don't know.
The money is in the advertising.
I met Paul
with a great script.
I think we met in 2006.
I was approached by Montoya
who was doing the Santa Barbara
Comedy Festival this weekend.
He wanted me to tape some
when I'm out of town this weekend.
But I read the script and I thought it was
fucking tremendous. I bugged
him for a year.
Montoya, what happened to that fucking movie?
What happened to that movie?
I had a call to do this
movie Boiling Maker.
We had met.
I've always been a fan of yours.
You're doing what I wish I could do.
Last night I bumped into Steve
Runners Easy and we were talking about
going on the road.
Somebody was asking this and I said,
you know what? I'm grateful
that I have the opportunity
to go out on the road.
But I'm 51. At this age
I didn't really want to be carrying my own suitcase
not that I wanted to be a star
but I wanted to evolve into
something else. And I really wanted to evolve
into writing.
I really like the whole
just the whole thing of writing a script
the process.
But I know that if you think acting is hard
and fucking stand up is fucking hard
writing is a fucking
animal that is completely
you know. Why do you think
is it because you don't get the immediate response?
What's different about it do you think?
Well the difference is
comedy is all like short form
writing. You're basically writing jokes
instead of writing a script you're architecting
a whole script of
110 to 120 pages
and
I mean it's just
it's a huge beast to conquer
and do well.
And
I came into writing by accident
I was in theater when I first came out here
producing plays and acting
still doing a little stand up comedy
and then
I remember reading scripts I couldn't believe grown
adults wrote some of them were so bad and I go
I can do better than this. So that's
that's how I started writing
and here I am 65
scripts later
65. 65 scripts? And how
how many years? 30 years.
That's like two a year. 38
screenplays,
pilots, plays,
shorts, I mean everything.
I even started back in the day
where I had a writer on a typewriter
can you imagine that?
Writing on a typewriter
I mean you know.
It's interesting especially
there's some directors now some writers now
who people buy everything and even if it's not good
or they're buying stuff they're just remaking
comic books so it's not really
it's not like the writer isn't
that necessary
and how is it when you're writing
good scripts and stuff like that's getting put
I got a huge problem with the comic
strip thing just right off the bat
because number one
comic strips are about comic strip characters
how do we relate to them? We don't you know
kids should relate to heroes like their father
people their mothers human beings
I want to write scripts about you know
the human you know humanity
human people I mean
I don't care about comic strip characters
they're not real they don't do anything for me
and how many more Superman Spider-Man
Batman
you know it just goes on
on and on
it's fucking embarrassing
and it's just so sad it's just
you cannot come up with anything else except for
more on movies
it is something that I grew up in a movie theater
I know what it is to
to you know
we didn't have the fucking computer to see what was
upcoming but when you went to a movie theater
and you went to half
hour early to see the trailers
and when you saw something and you looked at that date
and you planned around that date you were excited
there is nothing
that fucking comes out anymore
that I'm excited about
twice a year I get excited about a movie
and then you go and it's a fucking
six or it's a five
but every more on Irania
is telling you how it's a fucking academy
we settle for shit
as a society now
the last 15 years
we have been settling for shit
and entertainment
you know I did the podcast Monday night
and it was almost fucking hard to me to leave
the house ball team Mary
because Tuesday night
Monday night it went from
Nick at night goes from this
cartoons I got a baby
so Nick at night goes from fucking cartoons at 7 o'clock
to movies
and the other night they went from
Peppa Pig
to Splash
and me and my wife are sitting there with the baby
the baby is drawing and we're watching Splash
and I'm fucking dying
I'm watching John Candy and I'm fucking dying
I'm watching Tom Anks
and all of a sudden we start talking
and she goes Joey when did you see this movie
and I go and I was upset
I had tears in my eyes because
I wanted to find the girl
who made me go see that movie
because it changed my whole fucking life
I was like I think I could do what John Candy is doing
but to make a long story short
my wife is a fucking nerd
so she started going on the computer
and on her phone and looking at
what can you do get it from me
what?
you know what fucking
Splash came out the same weekend as
Goomies? Goomies?
it is fucking
go and look at the films from 1984
your jaw will fucking
drop
your jaw will fucking drop
July is like Ghostbusters, Purple Rain
it's like three fucking
movies in a row that you sit there
we don't have that no more
we don't have that at all anymore
so the highest grossing films of 84
are Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop
Indiana Jones and Temple of Doom
Gremlin, The Karate Kid, Police Academy
no no but look to see what came
like she fucking found some
that told her what got released in February
what got released in March
by the weekend
and she's like do you know what this got released with
let me tell you I'm like holy shit
like
what the fuck happened to the movie industry
why is it that they're making
the third series of Spider-Man
like who gives a fuck
if you're over 18
and you watch those movies
I feel fucking bad for you
I feel fucking bad for you
I'm embarrassed for you
you know a couple years ago that fucking kiss of
death made that avatar
that movie and all these fucking Gentiles jumping
up and down it's great
it was a hundred how much did it cost to make
that avatar
I think over a billion
a fucking animated cartoon
a billion dollars
and they were going to give this guy the
director and he sat there with Tanigale
what did you do you directed a fucking
comic book guy and he's sitting
I loved it when they brought the Jew out
of Barbra Streisand
237 million what's that
the budget for that was 237 million
if you can make a bad movie
we could make a good movie
with 237 fucking
million dollars but they're saying
this guy you know I just don't understand
what we've
what we've become like what the fuck do we watch
it's kind of disheartening because when you think
about it the only reason they make movies or TV
especially TV shows
is they don't cancel TV shows because
they're bad they cancel them
because none of people watch and
to see the advertising so like
it's the same thing with movies they only do it for money
all these young studio
execs have it down like their new science
they call it the four quads
of like that you have to
get in order to make a
billion dollars so
they basically scientifically put these movies
together to hit those
four quads and branding
that's their new hip word today
branding branding is everything you know branding
and you know
and I had a guy one time
an aging young kid asked me
what is your brand
and I go why I write
I write everything I write this this this this
now I mean I don't write like sci-fi
this but you know this is what I write
you know he goes
you know
yeah but see you don't have a brand
I go well my brand is good
writing that's my that's my brand
I don't understand what
you're telling me I have to specifically write
in the crime drama because I wrote
a couple of them no
you know what I'm saying I think I'm a little bit more
versatile than that and
you know but they want to
pigeonhole you know he does the
you know Tarantino shit that's his branding
and I'm like
no I don't want to be branded
it's amazing what has happened
to you know but it basically movies
and I see it this thing this
stuff I get to read for
for the shows on TV they gotta tell you something
I'm embarrassed reading the fucking lines
like I'll call my agent
I'm to the point in my life now
I just tell him it's not gonna work
bro it's not I'm not going
I love you to death I got a wife and a kid
I can't do it I can't make that audition
today it's it's not how many people you
shoot anymore it's where you shoot
I'm not gonna drive to fucking ocean parking
545 for a coast dog
to yell at some fucking fact check
as a comedian I'm not doing
I'm not doing that I went through all that
shit but I read half of this stuff
I got two weeks ago somebody sent
me something for a TV show and I was
fucking embarrassed and I called Lee and
I go Lee what do you know about this TV show
it wasn't really popular it's a hipster
show you know what I don't believe
when I read three pages of it
I fucking couldn't believe it and then
there's guys like you that are good writers
you know and you have a genre
I get the branding I like
that crime stuff that you get involved
in a few of those then you do some
mel some perky a fucking
love story I mean you know
yeah I've done them all I've done romantic
comedies I did offbeat love stories
I've done I've done even
some big studio you know
you know high
concept type of scripts and
then again
middle budgets and I've done ultra little budget
I do them all you know and
just to cover you know all my
bases you know because when you walk in
they may want an orange or an apple that day
I want to make sure I have everything with me
yeah you know when I appear I got one
you know
so yeah you just
to me that's what it's all
about is and you just got to get out there
and just keep
grinding away and
and believing in
you know what you have and what
you can do I mean
and
that's it baby 65 fucking
scripts one of those scripts is worth
a hundred million dollars you don't even
fucking know you know you don't even
know it that's what they are a lot of
I got my one favorite in there my personal one
that I think you know is the one that could
you know get me over the top
as far as award winning and so forth
that's probably my hardest script
to sell because it's a very kind of offbeat
artsy
love story and
but that's the one
if I could make one more movie before
I die that's the one I want
made how many of your scripts have been turned
into films
seven feature films
four plays
and four short films
that's fucking amazing
and then for the people at home
you've mentioned it twice
when I moved to the city and you went
for an audition this is
1997 when you went out
for an audition and your agent
called your your manager your lawyer
he always says he's scale plus 10
scale plus 10 as you
get in scale per day whatever it is
590 plus 10%
for your agent for the commission
and that's what you get per day
and then about a year and a half after
I got here that everything
was scale or two years everything was scale
I got a call one day for
four something
it was instead of
scale sag scale it was sag
something else it's their
466 or something
so it was 466 a day
okay you know I did three days
or something whatever still a lot better
people making I'm not complaining
then about a year later I started
getting calls for 250's
that's modified 250 to a day
and you're still
getting a couple of scale calls
but just to let you people know at home
that for the last
five years you're making 1250
an hour
and all of a sudden your boss
says to you hey listen on the weekends
from now on when you do those things
you're not gonna get 1250
you're gonna get 950
and at first you go okay now
what would you do as an American you go
fuck I need the job
but then they come and they come 250
then one day I started getting
calls for 100 hours a day
100 hours a day
which is 90 after your commission
you know 80 after
your dry cleaning
70 after the fucking gas
the 10th of lunch so you're walking out with
$50 again
I'm not I'm not I'm lucky
every morning when I wake up I fucking say
Lord thank you for giving me another fucking day
but do you understand me this was like
it was like by the way
they did this to you oh by the way
that movie is only 100 bucks
and again you know you do them
film after a while you stop
doing them because nothing moves forward
there's a movie with Ray Leota
and who's married to Justin Timberlake
oh fuck I don't know
blue something
it's got the guy who won
the Academy Award for Edie I mean
it's got Jessica Biel
Jessica Biel her and Ray Leota
are in a movie together IMDB
Jessica Biel it's blue something
she plays a stripper I have spoken
about this movie 15 fucking times
because oh the Chick from Friends
is in it powder blue powder blue
read the fucking law thing
cast is Jessica Biel Eddie
Rene Main forest Whitaker Ray Leota
Lisa Kudrow Patrick Swayze
Chris Christofferson
that's a hundred dollar a day movie
that was a hundred dollar a day
movie and when you're watching this movie
unless you live in LA you don't know
it's a hundred dollar a day movie
they shot it all on basically one block
on Sunset and Gardner
so they catch your shoplifting
at the at the comics place
where's the comic place we went to do the
podcast that sunset and
no what's the name of it
they call the shoplifting at meltdown
they turn the camera around
they have a lunch at the type place
we almost went into to get Pad Thai shrimp
they show the billboard
and that's a hundred dollar a day movie
so one day I was telling someone about that movie
my friend said I did that movie and I go what happened
and he goes I guess they ran out of advertising money
like they shot the movie
but then they planned on no money
no money for fucking
so they were going to release that movie
I mean it's got the fucking people to release it
that's strange because yeah I've never heard of it
and you think you would have heard of it
it's on fucking Showtime and HBO
when you see Jessica Bielstrip
you will fucking die
when you see Patrick Squazy getting his dick sucked
with a wig on
he plays the strip club owner
it's fucking crazy
this is like a crazy fucking movie
and it's a hundred dollar a day movie
you'll never know about it people don't know about it
because like they said they ran out of the
advertising money
at the end so the movie never fucking did a thing
so that's what we're up against now
I had to stop doing them
because I said the more I do them
I'm going to be stuck in that world
in all day movies
yeah plus you're not going to get residual tax
because they're never going to go anywhere
and so you can't make a living yeah
so and that's the thing now with those
but it's funny what
when I met you we were
you were planning on this script
and then when we came back that was one of the first
one of the all day movies I ever done
was Boilermaker
I was one of the first ones that I had done it
and I didn't mind doing it because
I liked the script I believed
in my heart that something
great was going to happen but there was so many more
things going on
in my life at the time that I always wanted to talk to you about
that you didn't know what was going on at that time
why this movie was so special
when we shot started shooting that movie
I had been on blow for three fucking days
I've never done blow again
I've never done blow again
never even considered doing it
but it all started with Boilermaker
it all started with Boilermaker
because I knew that we had to shoot
18 days in a row 6 to 6
and I know that
it wasn't like well you have a couple days off here
we would shoot 18 days in a row
and if everybody had to be
in the scene
everybody had to be in the fucking scene
so I'm like I'll never make 6 in the morning
you know after the fourth day
I'll never make it
because I could snort three or four nights
I was that much of a junkie
but I could snort three or four nights a week
and I could keep it together for two or three days
by Thursday you're going to know that
this motherfucker hasn't slept
his nose is leaking
it would have played perfect for the role
yeah it would have worked for the role
that was the most amazing thing
about that movie where I always
held you so close to my heart
because while I was shooting that movie
I was trying to get clean
so I would basically leave that set at night
run home eat dinner
eat a sleeping pill and go right to bed
and wake up the next morning go
I made it another fucking day baby
well you were great
I mean you were
the comic relief that I wanted
in that role
and I remember
when I talked to
Scott Montoya brought you up
in court you know because I told him
Latin actors in here and
for the reading
and so he brought you guys in
and I don't normally like taking guys in blind
because I you know
I don't like people to
fuck up my shit
so
and we had already
started the reading and this is
a live audience in the theater
it's a public reading
and Joey
comes in
and he sits down
and literally
it comes up to his line it's just like
bang out of the park gone home
or I'm like
excellent you know this is the guy
I want for it that was like
it was priceless so when it came to
we eventually you know
getting the money to actually film the movie
there was no doubt I was using you
you know so
that's just
it's a beautiful thing when
somebody you know hits the
part like it a plane of strata
various man you know I had Luis Fletcher do it
in very mean men you know
and that was a cool trip for me because
um
in 1975 I won a field
field for psychology class and I saw
one flew the cuckoo's nest and that's the movie
that inspired me to be an actor
John Nicholson Luis Fletcher and
I went best actor actor
movie and 25
years later in 2000
she's in my movie
again she knocked it out of the park
and I was just it's a beautiful thing
when somebody plays that violin that you
wrote so so nice
and that was a kind of cool thing
so you wrote that was the first one you saw very
mean man that was my biggest movie
sold at the time and
that was really exciting because
you know you've been doing it for so many years
and then you show up at four in the morning and it's still
dark out and there's like multi-million dollar
trailers and trucks there and you're just looking
going like wow
they're all here because I wrote that script
and then you meet
Ben Guzzara and
and Bert Young and Martin Landau
and Charles Durning
I mean you know you got legends
in there and
that was a pretty cool
pretty cool thing plus I wrote myself a nice part
because I wasn't stupid
now how long did it take you to
write very mean man what's it usually take you
I write very
very fast I try to write fast
because I want to stay on top of the
story if you distance yourself you know from
the script too much it's too
it's too hard to get back in the groove of writing
so I write like an
animal and I used to write later at night I'm
good older I write more
late afternoon into you know
10 or 11 but
I used to get in there 10 hours a day
and bang the script out sometimes
in five to six weeks but my
average is more like around
eight weeks and that's
10 hours a day right it's eight to
10 by yourself no
partners no partner no I write
alone I only wrote one script ever
that that I co-wrote but
I
I work on
the script all day long like when I'm driving
and I'm out there I got notes I'm just that's all
I'm doing it's all I'm doing is working
on the script I don't listen to the radio
in the car I'm like working
on okay what do I have to
do here to fix this little problem in the script
so by the time I get home I don't have
to waste time I've already fixed it in the car
so that's how you're I'm able to
write fast
is it harder without a partner because
like is it easy to
see mistakes in your own work
I've
done it a few times and I was younger
but I am
I guess I'm pretty confident
in what I want and
I just like to do it alone
I mean I obviously
you know
another thing I see in this town is
amateurs putting scripts out there way time
way before they ever need to be out there
you know I write six or seven
drafts
in that period of time before I even call it a first draft
you know what I'm saying
I go over everything and then I have people
read it and then I and a lot of times I'll have
readings so I can
get input from everyone
so I officially want to launch
it out there
but you know I see scripts
just recently I've read a few that just
have no business
being read by anyone
and these people are just delusional
they don't know better
plus they can't write
they say stupid stuff like
Interior Bar
Joe and Wally walking the bar
well we're already in the bar
you moron
I'm saying you to say Interior Bar
you say and you never use a lame word
like walk you say Joe and Wally
stagger in
that's all you need be economical
and get to the script movement
and killer dialogue
you know when you
were here a few years what
when you decide to start writing
what is it that you read
what is it that you
did you take in class did you read to a certain author
I
I didn't take in any classes
I just started writing on my own
I would get a hold of scripts
which were hard to back in those days
in the early days I was writing episodic
or sitcom specs
and things like that
and then plays so I would just
really just learn
by doing it over and over I eventually
took a couple of seminars
one with the famous Robert McGee
and another gentleman
but all these screen
writing gurus
you know it's
nothing's changing in a thousand years
there's a beginning and middle and an end
there's an inciting incident
in the first ten pages that gets us hooked
with the story and you
have to
write real
sharp brief concise narrative
and killer dialogue
and you have to start the scenes late
and end them early
and it takes a long time
to learn how to craft all that
because at the end of the day
screen writing is a craft
it's a craft to know how to do it
and
again
I've written so many scripts at this point
I just know the shortcuts
and so forth and one other thing
while I'm on that
is never rewrite
while you're writing because all you're doing
is wasting time
don't perfect the script now
because you may spend two hours
changing the whole scene and then when you're done with the script
you realize it doesn't even fit in there
so now you just waste it all that time
don't rewrite to do anything
until the rough graft is done and you see
that everything fits
this is how, again I'm able
to write fast because I don't waste time
with that, just get the rough idea
of the scene down, okay this is what we call
the shitty version, here's my shitty version of the scene
now when I'm done I'm going to come in
and hone that scene to be
really slick and cool
and have the subtext, it's another important thing
that characters have to have subtext
because people don't say what's on their mind
and seeing there's always stuff going on
underneath that has to be there
anyway, move along
Joey always talks about going back to old notebooks
and rewriting jokes, do you ever go back to an old script
and change it or do anything like that?
yeah, I mean
I'm nuts about it
I don't even like picking up a script because I'll go in
and I'll start automatically doing it
because each year
that I evolve as a writer I become better
and so I'll go in
and always find tweaking
you know, scripts to the end of the day
and um, yeah
that's to be about those scripts
that you always look at and you always find something
it's funny how I used to
write on fucking napkins
in your car and I actually
started sitting down and writing
and I would get up at four and actually
plot like two hours to write
and it's amazing
out of all those books, what a waste of time
it was to read all those books, all those years
it was a waste
of my fucking time
Samuel French
you're just making Samuel French rich
oh yeah
that's all the fuck you're doing every time you're going in
by a book, by Lee, all that's garbage
the way to write
is to write
and it's so funny how as Americans
we want to do anything but do the thing
you know
I go to Jiu Jitsu and he has classes that
you get in there and you wrestle
some people just want to learn the technique
and go home and never get their hands dirty
and then they go and it's
but that's done across the board
with everything
you know, I used to have a friend
in town, I went to an acting class
for 90 days and I moved on
you move on, after that you move on
and I had friends
that would go to acting class for six years
and I went to them and I'd say
how's it going? and they're like
well they told me I'm not ready yet
if you could breathe into the fog
the bottom of a fucking glass
you could fucking act
you know
yeah, first of all
you can't teach acting
I don't think you can even really teach writing
you definitely can't teach comedy
you just can't
you either have that or you don't
what classes
improve groups and things like that
they give you the confidence
to bring out your natural ability
but you can't teach that
you know
and so many people to take
claim to have discovered
certain comedians at this place
or certain actors in the actor studios
and it's
come on man
I see right through
come on man
Al Pacino is Al Pacino
where he went man
come on
and so
you either have it or you don't
and it's just like anything else
it's a lot of work
and you gotta put it in there
I call it
there's a ten thousand hour
theory, ten thousand hours
you know what that is
to be good at anything in this life
that's how many hours you have to put into it
and most people don't want to do that
for a lot of hours
but that's
I think what you have to do in order to be successful
because it won't come down to luck anymore
it just comes down to hard work
being out there and doing it
and
you know
how do you deal with rejection
I mean you said you got like 11, 15 things
made that's out of 60
for some people they would stop after
how many times did people say no to you
well we deal with rejection
and you know non-stop
it's like 99% of our lives
the first thing you have to be
is insane
in order to deal with it
because most normal people they wouldn't do it
they wouldn't do it so
you have to be a little bit nuts
you have to have blinders on
most actors and comedians are a little crazy
a little off beat
and that's
what we are and so
and somewhere inside you
you have to have that belief that
I have something I have this magic or whatever
otherwise
you know
you are crazy
how did your parents react to when you said
you were going to come out here and write
well I was mainly
came out as an actor
I picked up the writing later
being blue collar workers in south
they were very supportive of it
even though they knew nothing of it
and could never in a million years understand it
you know
and
and every year I go back for the holidays and they go
you're back
and I'm like no and then two more years
you have to be back
and I'm like no I'm not
so
but it's just
certain people
had their calling in life
they want to do with it
and what enriches them
it's nice to have millions of dollars
enrich by performing
and making people laugh
or inspiring people with the words
or paint things or whatever
so
it's fucking amazing
it's very inspiring
it's just
not a lot of people
I've been out here almost four years
and already I've seen people come and go
and it's just over 30 years
I can't imagine how many writers or actors
or directors you've seen
writer and hollywood they got one script told
and now they're back home and it's just
it's good to know that people can still
be out here
yeah I'm stuck now
I mean I've been here too long
but I actually like it
I like it out here
I love the weather
all the
recreation and light life and the things
that we have especially
in studio city where I've lived for all this time
it's my favorite place
and
I dig it
one thing I definitely can't take is the cold
it's funny that you go back
for the holidays because I went back the first
two or three years but now I'm never going back
in the winter again
yeah that's barbaric
I have a very simple theory in that
life is tough enough as it is
when you make it any harder on yourself
living in that brutal cold
and this was a bad winter that I just went through
and I
I just don't like the cold
you know it's amazing
I've always loved
Boston as a city
I don't give a fuck about the Yankees
I'm Cuban
my mother was a Boston Red Sox fan
and Louis Tion
and I love all that
I grew up a Cincinnati Red Fan
but my American League team was the Red Sox
so I always loved everything about it
and I come out here
and you meet these
half ass fucking fans
and then
they won
and everybody became a fucking fan
it's like anything else with the Yankees
of Boston
but I gotta tell you something Paul
I met over
my good friend in Aspen
was a Southie guy
he had bullet holes in his neck
they cut his toe off
it was amazing
but you come out here and you meet all these fucking
Southie you know
and you're one of the guys that I look at
and I go this motherfucker is definitely from Southie
not that you're not good looking
you're an handsome Irish motherfucker
I'm just saying that
you live and breathe it
I smell it on you
I smell it in your writing
your style of writing
just something about
how it became cool
to be Southie
and then when you look into that paperwork
ever since goodwill hunting and things
Southie became
I was the original pioneer that came out here
and now we got all these actors
and everybody coming out to get in the business
which they never would have done in a billion years
because Southie's a very
tough blue collar neighborhood
and going into show business back in the day
was just unheard of
but it's getting pretty gentrified right now
Southie's gone
it's not even Southie anymore
but what I'm saying is back in my day
people just
scratched their head they couldn't understand
where I was going
especially since I turned down a tea job
which I went in a lottery
oh yeah I signed up for that too
when I was in college they make you sign up to be a tea driver
like you make a ton of money if you drive this subway
yeah
and I actually won they picked 300 people
and then I decided I don't want to do that
I can't
my friends thought I was insane
because that was like even back then
that was like 30 years ago
that's a lot of money
I'm not driving a bus for the rest of my life
because not jobs take the bus
and I'm going to be dealing with this
I can't do this
I'm guessing you weren't standing in line in Santa Monica
at that new Dunkin Donuts
I did see it on the news
I think that's a little drastic
it's a little drastic for the Dunkin Donuts
but
yeah
but
I loved growing up in Southie
because you know
just great characters
all my friends and all the people that grew up were hysterical
and
the way they showed how they liked you
was they insulted you
everybody insults each other
they don't insult you they don't like you
they like you
so it was just great
and the great characters
that I hung out
and grew up with and all that
I loved my writing
because I could always take bits and pieces of people
you know
and put them together
for a certain character
I like characters that have crazy little obsessions
and things like that
I would always
remember
like these guys I grew up with
one of my buddies
his nickname was Ian
they all had these crazy nicknames
but he was Ian
mine was Muzcat
but anyway
he used to have a list of his friends on there
who he wanted to basically knock off first
because everybody was picking on him
and you would just have to hope
you weren't on his list
this is like real stuff
where can you get this
so
yeah it was
it's great
now it's become a trendy thing
for them to come out to Hollywood
and get into the business
you know 30 years ago when you left
when you told your buddies at the bar
that you were going to Hollywood
they just looked at you and said
that you were fucking fagged
and you sit there going
what the fuck are these people
and they really are
they think that this is another world
you know the East Coast mentality
Jersey, Boston
they think when you tell them you're going to come out of here
that they've never
when I go home and people still say to me
you still live all the way
out there in Cali
you're still living out there in Cali with those fucking friends
you're still living out there
out where like what the fuck is it
Mars it's a fucking plane ride
but they don't see that
and God bless them
God fucking bless them
for not seeing that
what's that expression
I don't fucking know
they always thought
well that's for special people
and I'm like what the fuck is so special about them
why can't I
do that
I don't understand
I wish more people thought like that though a little bit
because it's so crowded out here
especially now
there's so many new people coming every day that just
honestly
we have enough waiters and waitresses
sometimes I think there should be a time limit out here
if you're not doing it
people have fucking dreams
you know when I fucking
when I was living in Seattle
and
I never dreamed of LA
and then the more comedy I did
people were like oh you should try
and I gotta be honest and I told you
we've had this conversation
I thought I would last 18 months
like a friend of mine said man I was an extra on friends
and what I did was I left
a little horse on stage
with the head
so whenever he was an extra on a set
I would always bring a little horse next to him
and play with the head so the camera
and I was like maybe I'll do that
I'm just not kidding you
that sounds so fucking cool I'd love to be an extra
I never had a dream that I would ever be
in a fucking movie
I thought if I would be like
if I was a
a server in a scene
that that would be great for me
I never had that dream to be in a movie
I never knew how to fucking get in a movie
or what to even start
but you stick with it
you stick with things
and you see where the fuck they take you
you said it how many fucking
the truth without being sarcastic
how many big
time Hollywood fucking people
have you met to the kind now
that when you sat across from the table
you were like this guy's going
oh by the way what he's doing
because they come out here with a credit card
and they focus on all the wrong things
yeah they
again
my friends at the time when I came out
were like all running around playing
the Hollywood night game you know
they're going to get discovered in a night club
and blowing their money and I was seeing
at eight hours a night writing
little by little
it's amazing what people think
it requires to come out here
you come out here you go to the standard
you get an acting class and Jack Nicholson
sees you at a league of games and he puts you in one of his fucking movies
I've had fucking people
tell me that do you know how many
writers listen I'm a comic
the easiest one of the easiest
paths for a writer
to get steam sometimes
is to meet with a comedian
and try to develop a show and pitch the fucking show
do you have
if I told you how many writers I've met
with for months
for six or seven months and then one day
they just disappeared
ball disappeared and then you see
him three years later and
a camera guy in the commercial
like you go for a commercial audition
and this really happened to me a guy that was
oh my god his uncle was
the guy from Warner Brothers
and we're going to put this together
and we met in Hollywood and one day I never saw him again
and he was a camera guy
I had to place an ocean
parkway and I go what happened
aww you know how it is man
this
and I couldn't even imagine
so you didn't want to be a writer no more
so now you're that camera guy at the audition
so it's amazing how
overnight he was going to
write the next big TV show
like that just switched
my dream has never changed
my dream has never changed
I don't even know what the fuck my dream was when I got here
I just was happy to do stand up and be alive
I swear to god
I didn't pick up and say
I'm moving to LA to become a fucking star
like that's fucking ridiculous
that you wouldn't know what goes into it
and you see him
you see these fucking girls at parties
hanging out with fucking fake producers
the Arabs they say they're produced next
you know they're sucking a dick with sand on it
it's a fucking nightmare for them
and then they realize what the fuck happened
comics you know how many comics I came out of here with
that said this was it
that they were going to go for it
and then you see them on Facebook four years later
and they're married and they live in Nantucket
and you're like how the fuck did you end up back in Nantucket
obviously your dream wasn't fucking big enough
I don't mind somebody having a dream
Lee
I don't mind somebody having a dream
we all have to have a fucking dream
it keeps you alive
I understand what you're saying
there's enough waitresses
it just gotta have a fucking dream
yeah no I agree with that
it's just sometimes out here
when you're sitting in traffic you're like
I have people say
oh I'm going to come out here but I'm not
or I'm not going to take this job because it's not
an editor I'm going to wait for that
I'm not going to take a production assistant job
it's like just that sort of stuff
I respect guys like Paul
I respect guys like Paul that came out here
and stuck it out
and adapted that's the word
you have to adapt
you have to fucking adapt
four years ago I remember people talking about podcasting
and people saying what are you fucking retarded
that's not going to work
they got radio
we heard it
and four years fucking later
we've been doing this one for two years
there's a lot of comedians that still
won't pick up and do a podcast
or if they do do a podcast
they do it completely wrong
they don't expect what the fuck they're thinking
so people listen to it and go this is a TV show
you're not telling me what you're really fucking thinking
I want to hear what Paul T. Mary has to say
that's why I do this fucking podcast
sometimes people you know you say fucking
racial insensitive shit
but it's what's really in your fucking heart
if not just wait until I get on a TV show
and you can watch me do somebody else's fucking lines
and play the nice guy
oh I met Paul Murray
he seemed like a nice guy
what the fuck is wrong with you
he adapted
he fucking adapted
and I'm sure a lot of people who you talk to
writing will say oh I only write
big movie
I only write studio pictures
and you're writing plays and shorts
you can't just
who writes a studio for who sits there
and says they write a studio picture
and Robbo's fucking student
writes a script
my friend's student writes a script
Jiu Jitsu guy writes a script
and he gets a call from his agent
that he wants to go lunch with Sylvester Stallone
he goes to lunch with Sylvester Stallone
never he is again about the script
and Mixing of Expendables comes out
it's his fucking script
he takes Sylvester Stallone to court
and now his name is on all three of them
he also did the other movie
Godzilla
that was his movie he wrote that also
but he didn't know what he was writing
you just have to keep fucking writing
and eventually
Sylvester Stallone will steal it
you sue him and now you get your name
on the fucking map
how did that guy feel
I mean these are just
that's a dream
you just don't write
fucking big oh I'm gonna write
you write
the biggest misconception people have
that's amazing I was thinking about this guy Chris Petty
when I first got into comedy
one of the guys I worked with
his name was Chris Petty
and we just worked a road
he was just a road dog no Hollywood
and he played the tambourine
and he went out with a drink
and he goes hey you know tequila
and he was one of those guys after a show
he'd tell you how his audience drinks
you know he does this to make 37,000
a year and he bought a van
he did all this shit
he not once told me how much he loved comedy
everything he did
was for the money end of it
man then I sell t-shirts
and then I sell ukuleles
and then guess what I never saw him again
this was 95 when I worked with him
and then in 99
I went to fucking comedy store
doing spots at the comedy store
and he walks in like a lost
and he's like I'm thinking I'm moving out here
and I'm talking to him
and I knew that it wasn't his passion
I'll do comedy in front of two people
for free
guess what I'll have more fun doing comedy
for free in front of two people
than I would if you pay me $3,000
in front of 200 people
sometimes for me doing
when I went to Kentucky
when I did the show
and everybody said you didn't get paid
I didn't do it to get paid
and I used to fucking do comedy
I love it
I would do comedy whether you gave me $2
or whether you gave me a fucking cheeseburger
that's the difference
a lot of people put a dollar sign on everything
and that's what Chris Penny did
I mentioned him in a podcast on Joe Rogan
about three months later he hit me up on the beat
and the beat state
yeah I'm here living in Malibu
he's probably selling real estate
he never got it
and a lot of people don't get it
what are you gonna do with it
what the fuck are you gonna do with it
when I wanted to be rich
and I was selling drugs
and mugging people and all that
I wasn't happy
now that I'm not rich and I make it from month to month
I'm having a great fucking time
and that's what people always get fucking confused
everybody wants to be rich
what are you gonna do
what are you gonna get a limo
and chase Justin Bieber in the fucking car
that's the problem
you wanna do it
a chick that sucks your dick for $50
or suck your dick for free
you gotta love to suck dick to do it
people don't just suck dick because they don't fucking like it
same thing with anything you love
he loves writing man
I can tell when I read his fucking writing
this guy loves what the hell he's doing
you know
and that's the biggest misconception
about Los Angeles, California
that people come here
and they don't know why they're here
I knew when I came here, I was a felon
I had a college degree
that I couldn't use
I had no fucking options at 30 fucking
when did I come here
whatever
17 years ago and 51
I got here at 34
I was longer the tooth and uglier than ever
you know I wasn't no fucking Brad Pitt
when I got here
I just had a dream
my dream was to not go back to jail
that was my dream
jail not stab a motherfucker ever again
that was my dream
I had nothing to do with money
and that's the misperception
cock suckers
tell them Paul don't leave me
you gotta love it baby
I'm just saying you gotta love what you're doing
over here
why else would you do it
you have to love it, it's too hard
it's too much pain and rejection
there's price to pay
the grass is always greener on the other side
I look back a lot of my friends
they grew up they got great families
doing great, I had a sacrifice
not having the normal family
and things like that
in order to do what I did
everybody wants it all
but sometimes you can get it all
you can only get whatever
but what I didn't want to do
with my life is
to do some miserable job
that I would hate myself every single day at
you know
because I added up
I'm gonna hate that, I'm gonna hate my family
the whole thing is gonna be like
it's gonna be a domino effect
I can't do that
I want to
you know life is short
you gotta chase your dreams
and do the best you can
you know
some people
come up for a few years
they realize they can't make it
they go home
believe me there's too many out here
as it is
there's too many dilatants
and too many people
confusing the issue
you know
as far as talent goes
there's just so many
I mean
if you want to become a lawyer
you just can't say I'm a lawyer
or a doctor
but anybody and say that I'm an actor
which pisses me off
you know
some moron could just walk out the street
hey I'm an actor why because I took a picture
oh really
there's like
no respect it's just like come on man
you know
it's amazing how many people get
business cards printed
it's amazing
the first guy I had as a manager
was like a fucking travel agent
I didn't know this
I go how did you get into this
oh no I've been doing this 8 months
because I was a travel agent
I always wanted to be a manager
so when I sold my travel agent
I had some money from the travel agency
and I came out of it
he bought the lamb rover
he bought the condo
he bought the suits
he had the business cards
that was the first year
the credit card he always picked up the lunch tab
he took you to meetings
he always paid
he had something else
then he was telling me how he had to move
because there was leaking in his building
and the association wanted too much money
and then it just got worse
and worse and now he's doing something
in North Carolina
and it broke my heart
when he left but it was my first
lesson of people that come out of it
confused
I came out here to kill a little time
myself
in the process of stabbing somebody
but I was just buying time
to get my perfect move
I was just waiting to get so much rejection
that the anger would push me right back
to Colorado so I could chop their fucking head off
but
I don't know, I don't know what happened
and I slept in a car
for the first year
on Kennedy Boulevard on Sunset
and I would go into Ralphie's house
and take a shower
and then my car got towed with everything I had
and I didn't have it registered
my stuff so I lost all my clothes
I mean it was, this is it
and after that I should have said I'm fucking going home
and I said fuck you, I'm coming back
and I dealt it out, you know I slept on floors
and I paid the people
to live on their couch
how miserable is that, Paul Timberlake
it's got to be real rough
fucking three years I slept on couches
I've never had to do it
but I mean
reality hit me real quick once I ran out of money
next thing you know I'm up busing tables
at a restaurant and that's shit
and it's just like you know
everybody comes here thinking they're going to be a star in six months
you know whatever
sometimes what they do and you know
and then you realize the reality of
you know the magnitude of how many people
out here are whole fucking hard it is
and you know
so you make a decision do I hang in there
but I have to because this is what I do
nothing's going to stop me because it's
what I do, it's what I want to do
you know I love acting
I love writing and I love directing
all of it, everything
is it hard sometimes
I would imagine you must have sold something
or got something offered to you
where they're changing everything
have you sold a script and they change everything
and then do you take it back, what is that process like
it's not pretty, not pretty at all
it's like watching somebody kill your child in front of you
and do you take it back
and give the money back
no you can't do anything, you just have to suck it up and watch them kill it
and that's happened to me
several times
one of them
I better not mention the movie
so
but they were just butchered really badly
and it happened a couple other times
so that's another reason I was very excited
to direct Boilermaker
because I had had six movies made
prior to that other people directed
and so I was finally directing
my baby the way I wanted it done
you know
now the concept of Boilermaker
can we discuss that
or we still can't discuss it
I know a lot of people in the biz
and
in certain what they call rooms out there
and stuff
I just thought it would be a really cool
concept
of a hostage situation
you know what I'm saying, to be in that
environment
yeah so I just
I just
came up with setting it there
and then you know
because it's like a
microcosm of society
in those meetings
people that are new, people that are old
people that are struggling, people that are in and out
it's got a diverse group of people
so I thought that would be
really cool for
plus again I wanted to
write it
what I call a producer friendly piece
which was again with minimum locations
wouldn't cost a lot
and that could do
pretty well
anyway so
it's two for two in film festivals and one on both
so
screwed up the distribution but
it's amazing that
you know you go to the movies
for a long time and
you watch these fucking movies and all of a sudden
one day you start shooting movies, you're in movies
you know and you shoot one scene
for five years I shot one scene
thank you Mr. Diaz, Diaz is rapping now
you know and you shoot one fucking scene
and you go home, you come in, Lee get the fuck out
and I handcuff you or smack you
or whatever the fuck it is and you leave
you know when I shot Boilermaker
it was one of the first films I did the whole
film and
that's a complete different learning experience
right because you got a real part
you got a character that's got a whole
thing here, you're not just coming in with
the one line bullshit
which most people you know you gotta
that character's gotta
carry all the way through man, yeah
it was
really weird to do and
when you watch it, that's when you
really start learning about Jesus Christ
I did that wrong
but it's amazing to
do one movie
one scene and then this other fucking film
where you're in the whole film and to watch
it play out, it was huge for me
that was one of the films that I couldn't
do, I hate watching myself
I will not watch myself, I don't want to
hear myself in sets and that was
one film when it came out I went to
watch it, where did you play that
down in a... Fine Arts
and Wilshire and Beverly Hills, yeah that was
a great screening, that was a great screening
and it was amazing I had somebody in there from
the program, yeah I took a friend with me
and how she
spoke to me about it afterward
and you know
you live out here, you have no control
of what you do, when you pay me
a certain amount of being your movie
I don't know what I'm doing, but I tell
you what, when I did the longest yard, when I first
watched the first screening on the longest yard, I wanted
to cry
I wanted to fucking cry, because it wasn't what I
shot
it wasn't the scenes that I shot
What do you mean?
I, you know
I'm a serious guy, I'm a comedian
but I like the seriousness, I don't like
a lot of goofy shit
When I watched the longest yard, I never saw
Adam stick his mouth in his finger and put
the guys in the ear on the set
when I was shooting that, I wasn't there
those days, so when I saw it
it broke my heart, because to me it wasn't
the longest yard I had grown up on
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's the same thing, what he's saying
about what your baby looks like
I've known a couple of writers
that their biggest fucking dilemmas
the worst I've ever seen them
is when they've had to take the script back
that they sold
to re-fix it
so Paul buys my script
he takes the script
he fuck, he hires, these dummies
will hire somebody else
to fucking re-write it
and then when they fuck it up
now Paul wants to give it back
to me
the guy who wrote it already
not even that Paul fucked it up
Paul already fucked it up on his own
now he gives it to two bumbling fucking
knuckwads, and they fuck it up
even more, they're called egos
in this time, they're egos
they come in like
you don't know what you were doing
we're here to fix this script
with this fucking attitude
and it goes right back to him now
it also happens to the actor
you think you're doing one thing
you get to the fucking thing
and you're like what the fuck happened
to that movie
how do you think you feel
the movie blows
the movie fucking blows
and they put 80 million into a fuck
I'm not saying along the shot
I'm saying other films that I've done
I would imagine during the filming
you don't think it's gonna suck
nobody does, you're under the fucking ether
when you're shooting something
TV shows are fucking horrendous
TV shows are something that
when you shoot you're definitely under the ether
as soon as you walk into the studio
they're blowing like tear gas
something into the fucking studio
because you walk in
and all of a sudden you're like this is funny
you start saying to yourself
this could be fucking funny, this ain't bad
and you don't know
how bad it is to you fucking watch on TV
you're like oh my fucking god
that's fucking bad
so the same thing
happens to writers, the same thing happens to actors
the same thing happens across the board
what you intentionally thought it was
how many times have you called me
and said Joey I gotta tell you something
don't be upset
I'm really a fan of your buddies
have you seen this special
it's fucking horrible
and we find out it's the cut
it's the editing, the editing they fucked it up
and the editing they put a commercial
where the punchline is
it's just a fucking murder thing
that's why I hate specials on television
you have to play them on whatever
same thing happens
how many fucking times have you called me
I'm a fan of this guy
I paid to see this guy Joey
the fucking special is horrendous
happens all the time
so there you go my friend
you never fucking know what you're doing
all you can do
is be the best you can be
on that fucking day
it's good to hear
and people who listen know but
for the past almost a year
November will be a year that I stopped working on TV
and I've just been doing this
like you said when you were trying to be rich
you weren't happy
I've had probably one of the best years
of my life
some of it's harder
do you ever think like
I should go back and be a tea driver
and I'll make 80 grand
and I'll know I have a check coming in
it's just tough
it's a little too late for that now
the dice have been rolled
I'll live with it but no
I don't have any regrets at all
the life that I wound up having
there's no way I could have
had all the encounters
with the
actors
and producers
and
great comedians
and artists
I spent a day with Dennis Hopper one
my first time at the improv
I was here two weeks Johnny Carson walks by me
fucking Johnny Carson
you know what I'm saying
Johnny Carson ain't walking around in bars
when it's healthy okay let me tell you
so anyway
all those great things
a few of my friends did the tonight show
Steve Wright and Teddy Bergeron
I was around
all that great excitement
and
again when you arrive in the morning
and there's millions of dollars worth of
filming equipment
and you got an Academy Award winning actress
and nominees
and a movie
where could I have got that
do you feel the same way Joey feels
do you ever not like hearing the script you wrote
do you ever feel like I don't want to hear
I don't want to see them shoot this
yeah
again I'm like most actors
I don't like listening to my voice
I have a hard time watching myself
but I normally play psychotics
but not with your script
do you enjoy watching your movies
oh yeah
depends on the movie though
some of the dramas
I don't watch it all anymore
but very mean men
which is my favorite black comedy
is cool gangster comedy between the Irish
and Italian
and again it's set out in the San Fernando Valley
in North Hollywood like to look a lake
instead of back eastward
there's a little twist to it
and I've watched that movie
probably 15 times
I just love it
it's a very clever cool hit movie
and it's got a lot of really kind of
black comedy in it
that I like
that's my specialty
how do you deal with self promotion
because the word is networking
and it feels gross I think for most people
but as a comic you go up
and you do sets
you don't really have readings that often
for stuff you write
how does that work for someone
well I mean
I always book with that stuff
which I just don't think it's the right place
I mean once in a while
if I have a reading
I'll invite people
but I mean people are just shamelessly
promoting themselves
which is a little much for me
but you should
have managers and agents
do the promoting for you for the most part
I mean but
it's always at their mind you gotta be out there
doing your thing
it's kind of a Monday night group or something
one night a week you guys would get together
and read other people's scripts
are you still part of it?
no not anymore I was
for many years
in a group
that
workshop scripts
they still get together?
yeah they're still going
and I started making
movies and moved on
I went into some other groups
and I'll still get around to it
you know
but again normally
I'll just get a group of people
and have my own reading of the script
and so forth
and
yeah that's it
I'm playing a little redneck
in a movie coming up in two weeks
I'll enjoy that
I'm from Southie
but I play rednecks I don't know
I'll have like a beard and you won't even recognize
and I'll talk with the same accent
and I'll have that redneck accent
that's always fun too
I don't like actors just play themselves over and over
if you look at my reel you'll see
there's eight different guys
there's an Irish accent
there's a Mexican
you know redneck and so forth
but
you're gonna deal with a little bit of typecasting
it's all there is to it
you're gonna get what you're gonna get
I'm never gonna play the nice father
play a little bit of the offbeat
psycho bad guy or whatever
well I like that you've sold scripts
like most people wouldn't even fucking
talk to you after they sold one script
never mind six or seven scripts
you've had some movies made but you still
will play an actor
for two or three days
and that lets me know that you're
you know
there's something to that
I've always respected that
you know it's
like you said earlier
I'd do it for free I'd do it for a hundred bucks
I'd do it for a hundred bucks a day whatever they're gonna get me
I'm gonna do it
and depending on the amount of money they pay me
it's not gonna decide on how good of a job
I'm gonna be I'm gonna do the same bang up job
no matter what I'm getting
whether it's just a reading for free
or a hundred bucks a day or whatever
I'm going in all out
because that's my reputation
that's my name that's what I'm selling out there
you know what I'm saying
you know when I fucking saw Harold
Ramis and Stripes and then I
he directed me I seen him in
fucking whatever and then
I love all that stuff I love when people
don't get pigeon-held somewhere
I love when like I love to write
a blog I love to do a podcast
if somebody calls me for a fucking movie
I'll do a movie I don't give a fuck
at this point this is what we do
we we express ourselves whatever
I'm not I'm not sitting here telling you
I'm an artist because I'm not I'm Mr.
fucking comic you know who
does this shit I just love
every aspect of it
you know I wish I don't
I would never direct because I don't want to be that guy
that comedian that needs
to direct or anything that's not my genre
but I love the writing
aspect of it I love what you do
man I've always wanted you on the podcast
I love what you do
It's an honor and a privilege to be here
it's a lot of fun and
yeah I
you know I'm just
I love writing acting in the whole deal
I love directing that was like the best moment
of my life finally so
I look forward to
hopefully directing and
having more movies made and acting
anytime I can so
we're gonna put Lee in your next fucking movie
alright we'll put Lee in there
it must be kind of cool because you never have to
you could write you never have to retire
Joey you don't know
you could be writing for another
it's not like a regular job
at 65 you have to quit
yeah like you gotta retire like Derek Jeter
at 40
it must be hot
well that part's good
writers get better
if they
brought you into a room
and a new guy right out of college
no matter what class
you must just blow them right out of the water
I don't know
I don't know about that
you know
yeah
what are you gonna do Lee?
I'm gonna give some shout outs to my main man
Joe Ando, Corey Layton
Hugh Fitzgerald
I'll see you in class next week
John Wolf G, Jared Hulk
Lee Cricadas
and Matty D
I love you cocksuckers always
see we learned something
you learned about writing, you learned about fucking dreams
and that's it now you want to know
you want to come out of here and ain't no fucking catwalk Lee
you fucking realize it you lucked out
we're having a great time
we shot videos, we shot documentary
you know we've done some fucking shit and it's all
our own
the best time what's going on right now
is that you can do everything on your own
if you really want to do it
there's no more excuses
you can buy a camera for 10 bucks
you can edit it on fucking line now
there's web pages to help you do everything
you got your fingers to put on your dick now
to help you jerk off
they do everything now online
there's nothing, if you have a dream
if you want to shoot a film
if you want to animate
they have everything available online
fucking YouTube will teach you how to make a fucking cake
YouTube has every
instructional on there how to write a book
how to write a screenplay
so the only thing that's holding you back
in today's society is you
when he's got into this shit
when you're from fucking Jersey
my buddy once told me I have a friend
that holds the wires
for people in California
how many times I bugged that guy
how many times I called that guy
and said hey hook me up in California
I didn't even know what I wanted to do
I didn't even know he was like what the fuck
do you want to do I don't know
I want to be like Steven Seagal
I had no fucking idea
but it's amazing the hard work
and the patience
with the equipment
today you can do it all
my first short film was done on 35mm
film and that cost like $32,000
today you could make that same movie
for like a thousand
so the excuses are over
cock suckers that's what the church is about
grab your balls get a knife
and go in there and get what's yours
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don't come crying to me tomorrow
I don't feel good
what do you got tomorrow anything?
do you pick up a poem or what are you guys doing?
maybe Friday if I feel better
Friday what are you going to do?
run around the park naked
that's what we do every weekend
this fucking guy hooked up with a nice Mexican chick
a little Jew guy
where's he going to get that shit out of here?
in Boston you have a little Jew girl
holding hands talking about fucking your bar mitzvah
see what I'm saying?
everything changed for you
it's amazing you got some nice Mexican fucking
onion there
have you eaten that ass yet?
the ass no what are you waiting for
so you told me you love her
now you got to eat that ass and prove it
she doesn't want me to
it's not a walk to her
it's not a dirt
the Jew tongue is coming in your muffler
it's over
you don't even have to tell them
just sit there and watch their eyeballs fucking get all open
and that fucking monkey
just open up from behind
I don't know about you but I was raised
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that's disgusting
I'm going to lick their asshole
you just lick it and let them talk about it
for your breakfast in the morning with that shit breath
I love you guys
stay black what are we playing today?
I don't know what are you playing?
how about Back in the Saddles since I got my Boston people here
Aerosmith for you motherfuckers
or Seasons or Withers something from the early stuff
when they represented Boston
not this shit they're singing there
what the fuck
whatever the fuck they're doing
I love you guys stay black have a great weekend
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Paul Murray I love you
Paul do you have a movie
do you have anything
do you have anything like
if you had one movie people would watch what would it be?
all of them
very mean men
very mean men
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