Unpaid And Underrated - 004 : Spoon

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

This week Joey and Keith sit down and talk with Garage Gym Comp's chief evangelist "Big Spoon". They dive right into some great topics this week such as Joey's Meet Recap, how Big Spoon got his name, NASCAR and what the heck a Platypus is. You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @the_spoonerman (https://www.instagram.com/the_spoonerman/). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Spoon (Rich).

good morning afternoon evening and good night everybody this is the unpaid and underrated podcast the crew cast the podcast about the podcast about lifting about nerfing as always i am big joey uh not as always but for the most part i am big joey um and i am of course joined by big keith big keith out of ohio yeah yeah yeah yeah that's uh i mean close that's the uh that's that's big kevin he's probably about 100 pounds smaller than me uh sure a little taller Got a better beard. You sure? Because based on last week, you might be the same people. I did hear that Nate had a hell of a time doing the editing. And I think Big Jen said we literally had the exact same dialect, which I think I actually read her.

I can't remember if I read it during during listening to it or not. But I did. I basically once I had that thought in my head and continue to listen to the podcast, I was like, Oh wow. It is like, you know, like obviously as, as the person whose voice it is, it's like, you can clearly tell the difference, but from an outsider, I could be like, Oh yeah, I could see someone being like, wow, that is very similar. We got to make sure that Eddie doesn't know this. If he gets wind of this,

he's going to use it as fuel for the fact that he thinks that ohio's not in the midwest who's talking who is that oh don't don't worry about me i'm i'm not here i'm just here to watch just here to watch we shouldn't let him on mute never let him on mute no all right well we're gonna keep him in the waiting room for another 40 minutes and then really dive in. Yeah, yeah. And really dive in to the podcast this week. Both feet. But we are joined by a third crew host this week.

We have Big Spork. Spoon. Close enough. Okay. Gotcha. Now, were you named after the Soundg song uh so yeah actually that is where the uh the nickname came from it was some co-workers uh decided that spawn holts was really really close to uh or at least the first half of it uh they immediately started mispronouncing a spoon

when i met him um and so then it was spoon man and of course the the sound garden song at the same name so because there's nothing funnier than heroin addiction wow all right we're uh we're dead and quick here all right i don't care i'm having a night of it i don't even oh you're good it's a good car it's a good car all right we got a lot of stuff going today we do we do we gotta now can i call you rich yeah yeah yeah rich get richer that's uh yeah my uh my favorite discount code i use that every week on every time you order from massonomics yeah it does not work on any does not work on your massonomics uh discord though. No, it does not, unfortunately. Which is what we're going to call it.

I know it's supposed to be like a supporting membership, whereas in like we're supporting the podcast we love so they can keep making content. But like ultimately, we're paying to be in the Discord. Absolutely. Those guys be danged. It's like Costco. You're paying to be in the club. I'm paying for those samples. Exactly.

Kitchen chicken bakes. Holy shit. Those things are great. Oh, diving into the swearing right away. Jen's going to hate us, man. Like, she's also going to turn us right off. I forgot Jen hates that. Sorry, Jen.

She just hates it because we're younger than her. That's all. Well, you guys are. I don't know. 95% of it's my fault. You and I are, like, almost the same age, Jen i think jen's in her early 40s probably so jen's like a year older than us look at how she lives she's lying she's younger than she says she is all right what do you let's dump let's jump right in let's jump right in we'll just take a big old dump right in so do a little

follow-up from last week. We had, I believe we all mentioned that we didn't believe we had an Australian, any Australian listeners. And then I think big Nate got to the bottom of that in the discord. And we found a big jaunty is one of our listeners from down under. So are you telling me that the under underpaid or the unpaid and underrated podcast was not well-researched beforehand? I just, I find that so hard to believe guys uh so that's on me i was supposed to do all the demographic research where i was supposed to find our marketing versus our demographic

um uh you know and i did a lot of contextual and um research to make sure that like everything that we did and oh my god the seo the seo to get into this was so important because ultimately we're here to get rich and if you're not rich by the time you're 40 uh then it's because your podcast has failed uh anyway no the joke is no we grip it and rip it and we just started recording this and hope people listen we're uh we're coming up on we're just under a month since we well like the fourth will be i think so when this episode comes out i think it'll come out the fourth it'll be like a one month uh anniversary essentially when we recorded our first uh episode so the fact that we've like already

made a month worth of podcast and that's pretty sick to me i'm very uh happy to see where this goes when search engine optimization i did not know what seo meant hell yeah i was i was using terms that's what i was doing those full-on industry jargon way to go oh yeah i have a degree in that kind of stuff so i kind of like okay right on yeah i i just didn't like the idea of having to do furthering school to prove i went to school so yeah anyway makes sense anyway um i still don't understand seo and i never ever will uh but yeah so big jonte hey thank you for wrapping us to like 127 was it fitness podcast in australia and i've seen the people that come out of australia they're all fit and attractive so the fact that like we are anywhere on that list is pretty amazing because either they're not listening to podcasts

good i mean no i'm gonna go to out please johnny don't do us we're gonna go to outback this weekend to celebrate put another shrimp on the bobby might nah no that's austrian what it's from dumb and dumber that's from you guys that that i got you i'm trying to make it's been a long week man this has been a long week i'm gonna start doing a jim carrey reference every podcast just to see who doesn't get it i'm so in for that now not committed to it i don't think i've seen you gotta get arnold doing get to the chopper no has he done new comedies in a while like i haven't seen like i don't know what he does

like started doing a lot of drugs and then like found the good kind or something yeah yeah he's he's all up here like he's yeah oh my god he's all lsd up psilocybin up here now yeah yeah uh hell of a dude you listen to his stuff he he you know we won't get into it because it's too serious goose talk but after he made kick-ass 2 he decided after a school shooting he was no longer going to uh feature any guns in any of his movies so he refused to do marketing for kick-ass 2 and that was a little bit of pushback and i don't think he's done a lot of stuff since except for a really really funny and i'm sorry to my gun loving friends i you know i'm there too but his his funny or dime video uh cold dead hands is kind of hilarious so if you haven't seen it go watch it

but if you are really pro gun and don't want to hear that shit don't go watch it but if you are really pro-gun and don't want to hear that shit don't go watch it i had time to watch it during the recording right just just the screen time out you just mute yourself and you watch that and i will listen to big joey give us a recap on his meat last week because i'm very excited to let him uh talk about that i saw you had a hit some nice well technically you hit meat prs across the board so you know and a personal pr so that was meat and personal prs nice that's why the first meets you always hit a you always hit meat prs well yeah it was my second meet but it was my first sanctioned yeah i'd never been a sanctioned

meet before and i um i had my friend steve you guys all know him big Steve I talk about him a lot on the podcast and uh I brought him down as my handler and I said like look man I can do most of this myself but putting in my next lift within 60 seconds is really hard because I have to run to my bag get my app out see what I did judge how it how it felt. I was like, but honestly, man, I need you to just do it for me. And that's really all you're here for. He did a lot of help in other ways, actually. So got my first bench, got my second bench, failed my third bench, which was 185 pounds, which is five pounds over my gym max. But like I told you guys, I was not there to do 95% shit. I was there to do 105% shit. But they asked me to do a fourth bench

because the spotters actually touched the bench before I went down. And at first I agreed. And I said, you know what? That's fine fine I think I'll do it and then I started thinking like I think I was going to fail that anyway and I'd rather save my energy for my deadlifts now the WP yeah you're one hell of a deadlifter so that makes sense thank you and that's what I was going to say that's my bread and butter I knew right I know where my strengths are so as I was coming out for my second bench, they announced it was a record. And then I was like, sure. Okay.

Now the thing is, it is, but because I didn't declare it, they're not going to count it. So during the break between bench and deadlift, I went to the head ref and I was like, what do you like? What is this record business? Like, I'm kind of new here. I've never really done a sanctioned meet. what do you like what is this record business like i'm kind of new here i've never really done a sanctioned meet and he's like well we thought it was a record because it is because there isn't one in your age and weight class and i was like wait so i'm gonna hold the top in my age and weight

class but i'm not gonna get recognized as a record he's like yeah essentially i was like how do you know and he says go to open power lifting and look so it turns out that there were no dead lifting for my age weight class and tested so technically every lift i did set the record now i don't think i did yeah i don't think i did anything like overwhelming like i'm a mediocre powerlifter at best so my introduction was like 413 or something like whatever i do that and like warm-ups so but record set and then the next one i'm gonna break my own record then my third attempt i broke my own record which was a near pr which was 463 pounds and then they said well because you hold the record you are allowed to do a fourth

attempt to break the record and that's a wrpf rule that if you think you can break the current record you're allowed to do a fourth attempt but i held the record so i was like no i don't know i don't know and steve looked at the handler and went, just gave them a weight. He was like, he's doing it. And he put in a weight. And then I walked away and I was like, I don't know, man. Like that was kind of hard. He's like, it wasn't hard enough.

I was like, okay, how much weight did you put in? He goes, don't worry about it. So I was like, okay, man. So I did a shot of fireball with Lou and then just walked out and gripped it and ripped it. That was 468 and a half pounds. My current raw max was 445. With straps. A little higher.

Yeah. With straps was 465. But this was deadlift bar, just just me some chalk and a belt and i did 468 and a half pounds and set the canadian record for tested submasters men oh yeah 181 pounds so i am now the guy hopefully so we're still there was a little bit of shaky knees um the head ref the head ref red lit me and the other two refs didn't catch it. But the head ref was like, it counts. I'm putting it in. It's still not up on open powerlifting.

But I don't know how long that normally takes. Again, I have no clue what's happening. Open powerlifting is anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. And there's times if the meet director like isn't really up with the times too. Like I had to go back and email Open Powerlifting like a few years ago, just the results from like old meets that I did that were like super bush league that the guy like didn't even know Open Powerlifting was just so I could like get, you know, everyone knows how OCD I am.

Like I didn't want to go to my Open Powerlifting and only have it the last couple of meets. I wanted like my entire history. So I like tediously spent like two or three hours going through like four or five meets that I had done and emailing links and stuff. And it was, it was pretty rough, but if it's a WRPF meet, it's pretty legit.

So I would assume it'd be up there in the next couple of weeks. Oh yeah. Like OPL is a standard thing that a lot of power lifters look at for records and for data anyway. But at the end of the day, it's a third party project, right? Like it's,

it's not owned by an open source, right? It's, it's, it's open source. It's not owned by an open source right it's it's it's open source it's not owned by any federation so it's all best effort right yeah so i maybe i'll end up there soon hopefully but i am fairly certain now i am the guy to be in my age and weight class now that was my first sanctioned meet i don't know if it's my last um i do think there i've been saying it for weeks. They're strong men in my future. I was filling up my a hundred pound bag today with some rocks.

I saw that. Is that like, as a guy that's never really dicked around with sandbags, is it normal to put like P stone in a sandbag and not sand sand? Like, is that, is that going to rip prematurely rip through it? I don't think it is normal. I don't think it is normal i don't think it is normal but um we got a canadian company up here called grain strength uh she's out of the midwest in canada and uh she swears by it she's pea gravels the way to go especially if you've got an indoor home gym

there's no sand if as long as you clean it and dry it properly there's no mold and it just feels more natural than a sandbag so i'm going to fill it to 100 pounds i'm going to stack it up with some rubber mulch to make it more round kind of like atlas stone style so then i'll have 100 pound and 150 pound and we're going to start throwing those around and i'm going to start throwing my dinny rings probably a little more often. Another problem is juggernaut isn't really set up for strongman. Juggernaut is set up for powerlifting. So I need to either decide if I'm going to pay a strongman coach or if I'm going to just adapt juggernaut where, where they say comp lift, I do dinny lift. When they say bench, i do dinny lift when they say bench i do sandbag bench

like i might just do that too because you can't argue with the price of juggernaut and the efficacy efficacy yeah efficacy yeah yeah overhead press do you know yeah axle axle i'm currently wondering if i need a deadlift bar because yes like everybody's like i think you should have one anyway especially if you're but everybody says if you're not doing over 500 pounds you don't notice i'm like f you i know that's like i noticed that 460 pounds i noticed the whip i noticed the slack like it was obvious you you notice the diameter of the bar too it's yeah for sure able to get a better wrap around it you're even if you don't get the the whip of the bar too. It's able to get a better wrap around it. You're even, if you don't get the whip and the bend,

you notice. I noticed it. Well, it was a Kabuki bar too. Right. So just like, that was my second time using a Kabuki bar to meet. And I use a stiff bar for my home gym.

And like, I noticed, and it felt so much easier and better that like that went up. Fantastic. Keith, you have a, you have a Kabuki bar too. Those bend on like 135 pounds. Like they, on nothing for sure and like like you mentioned the

the diameter someone who like i uh i i hook grip deadlift so hook grip in a power bar versus so a 29 millimeter power bar versus a 27 millimeter deadlift bar that's night and day difference alone just for hook gripping uh so yeah the people that the people on facebook that when i like you know uh show you how big your dick are by telling you that yeah you shouldn't have a deadlift bar let's pull 500 like they can fuck off there it goes guys oh that gets under my skin and you're gonna pull in a deadlift bar in some federations anyway so if you're uh gonna doRPF, which sounds like they do, they use Kabuki bars up by you,

then owning a Kabuki bar makes sense or just having a deadlift bar in general. So like there's a little bit to that for just, you know, practicing how you're going to perform. It's the same reason that I got Kilo plates recently is I know that I'm going to be using them

on the platform. So it's a good reason to have them. Now, did those kilo plates anywhere like in a garage gym competition i don't think you did no no but there were several crew this week that won many a prize on the uh garage gym competition uh contest giveaway that uh went out this week i was one of them big jen was one of them scott dodds was one i know there was fourth, but I'm drawing a blank on who that was. If anyone knows who it is, great. But yeah, I just wanted to touch base on that. A little follow-up to last week that most of us competed in the Garage Kim competition and a handful of crew actually won something. So that was pretty sick. Well, and we're recording a day early because the big prizes are actually going to

be announced tomorrow and I plan on winning one of those. Yeah, you're going to get a... Yeah, whatever Prime's putting up. Yeah, they have a big stack, I think, or something. Yeah, it's a single stack. Anything Prime is... I think the cheapest thing on Prime's website is like three grand, so, you know. Right, totally. Yeah, there's a pair of Chewy bars that are from American Barbell.

Yeah, I would love one of those. I don't know that I need another power bar, but those look really sick and I wouldn't mind having one. So as a side joke, I usually don't win anything in these things. Yeah, I can't imagine that Joe would let you win at this rate if you're Mr. Bandit and Masseter. Masseter, yeah.

My misspelled plaque. uh, M, M, M, yeah. My, uh, my miss, uh, misspelled. This is my third year in the GDC and I still haven't won anything. And I'm like, come on. I was injured myself before my real meat doing this. And it's fine.

It's fine. Everything's fine. I'll just, they'll just go to hell and never involve myself in anything again. Um, let's talk about our sponsors yeah uh there's not much to talk about because of course we are all part of the massonomics crew uh if you want to go and join the discord crew of course you go to massonomics.com join um but there's no new drop to chat about

there's two things i think we should really focus on. The first and foremost, what are you wearing? I am wearing the Bench Heavy t-shirt. I don't think I have a t-shirt. I've got the tank. I've got a I think this is the

Metalnomics shirt. Metalnomics in the uh metalnomics and in uh the troll cut version uh i am wearing uh our our good friend uh lift evil for teaching me how to make these they're fantastic i am wearing of course the most controversial of t-shirts uh the dark side dark side t-shirt that would have been a good one that's that could have almost been a segment mine's clean i should have worn mine yes oh yeah notoriously controversial shirt um after some youtube comments i know that's some political talk i won't get into it but ah the internet's

a nightmare this month youtube's the worst like i i don't know out of all those social media platforms oh tiktok and youtube i think tie for being the most like just horribly cruel people like just the shit that people would like think they can get away with saying without ramifications it's just i don't know youtube yeah they're all the same i'm on twitter too and even like even my friends that think that they could just say stuff that i won't call them out on right where they're just rude to me and i'm just like yeah sure is that what you think is real life but social media internet gives you that distance that like you you don't really think of the fact that you're sitting at a computer talking to a person you're just sitting at a computer you're you're just spouting off whatever the hell comes to your mind social media is full of a lot

of people that haven't been clipped in the mouth for saying something and it shows and then they're and they i mean like it's one of those things where i sometimes wonder like do you think that it's not going to hurt and that's kind of what is the weird sentence to me so like if i'm out in the world and let's say i'm doing something that somebody doesn't like do they think because they believe they're morally right and they pull out their phone to record me that it's not going to hurt when i hit them like is that what they think like do they think that like i have right on my side i can charge you with assault i'm still gonna hurt you like not me in particular i just mean in general like getting clipped in the face from a

person who's really strong yeah whether you're recording whether you think you're right and that's just like i just wonder about that like do you think just like because you believe that morally you're right that it's not gonna hurt like do you think if you stand in front of my car because you want my parking space that i'm just it's not gonna hurt when i run you over like is that what you think so anyway the internet was i i i thought i thought you uh had met like when you say something really fucked up and mean and cruel that like you're not gonna hurt that person's feelings when they read it. And I was like, oh,

okay. You completely flipped the script. I'm like, oh, when I punch you in your face, it was like 30 seconds in. I'm like, oh,

he's talking about physically hurting someone. Okay. I got it. But not like not me in particular. I am not a violent person. There are so many hotheads out there that would lay people out. Yeah. Like that guy that yelled at Tanner.

Do you think that just because you are like an old man who like happens to like own this property that if tanner just wasn't the type of guy he is that he's not going to pop you in the mouth and it's not going to hurt like you might be able to sue later you might be able to whatever call the police it still hurts it just still hurts to get punched in the face and people need to understand that right and i don't think people understand that is that they think the aftermath is more important it still hurts to get punched in the face anyway this is no uh playground fights anymore and it's just this is a very serious podcast for us so if you were to get punched in the face you would probably want to you know cool down your mouth a little bit with a nice cold beverage so my cold beverage tonight of choice again is a

wegmans orange mandarin uh sparkling water because that's all we have excellent segue what about your spoon what are you drinking oh man you know me i'm a i'm a party animal uh living it up on a thursday night with my big old jug of water. I am drinking Keith's because I have been working all week and I am exhausted and I want to have a beer or five. I am pretty determined to not be useful in the morning.

Yeah, I still got to put a full day's work in tomorrow. I have to be selective on which Thursdays I'm going to drink. Because there's a lot of Fridays. I only got to work half days. My company will kick me out at 40 hours if there's not a project going on, basically. And if I'm over, a lot of times that's at 10, 11, 12 in the morning.

Tomorrow's not one of those days. I got a 10-hour day in the heat tomorrow. So I'm going to just not partake in any alcohol this evening. Stay hydrated. Go ahead. Is it heat in New York? No. I was going to actually see if we wanted to talk about that.

Because we do like talking about weather on podcasts in regional areas that mean nothing to other people listening. But it was like 91, 92 degrees today. Oh, damn. All right. It's hard. I can't really tell if it's humid or not because I was uh i was doing electrical work in like a common area hallway of an apartment complex all day so not only was it 90 outside it was over 100 in the hallway and i'm just just you know in my uniform so i'm you know it was very hot i was i was drenched in sweat all day long it was actually that hot here as well

as i was trying to clean my rocks and fill up my bags out there just sweating yesterday i even had a cigar while i was doing it and that was the worst idea i think i've had in months just a big cigar hanging out of my mouth i'm dripping sweat and saliva trying to like wash rocks um interestingly i wanted to make a video about it because you know i found the the perfect way to wash them and everything like that but the more i just sat in that heat sunburning because of course i have the um the skin of a fluke worm which is just completely transparent and burns within minutes so very similar complexion to a vampire yes yes yeah morgan's like if you look

at your phone too long, you're going to burn. Like you need to put on sunscreen. All right. What do we got next up folks? We got one, we got one more topic before we can go into a new bit. So this is something I think they mentioned on the other podcast,

but I think it was either inspired just by Canadians in general, or maybe us. I can't remember, but Z versus Zed, is that a thing? Have I missed that when you and Scans are talking? Like, is that something that I – someone shed some light on the Zed is a Z when pronouncing the letter Z? I don't get it. Zed's a villain on Power Rangers.

Zed's dead, man. That's all I know. Yeah, I remember that. Get it. Zed's a villain on Power Rangers. Zed's dead, man. That's all I know. Yeah. I remember that. So it was much to my delight. We have once again influenced the main podcast. Nice. Because one of the hosts said that they heard me spelling my last name.

And I think you must have missed it. But I do it every week. M-L-E-E-c-z-k-o uh and yes in canada and unfortunately for you guys literally the rest of the world in english it is zed we can't help it that the rest of you are wrong that's so weird do you guys know why you guys do things so differently they're special because we beat the british because of capitalism so it is because when the printing press was invented you paid by the letter so it was more economically feasible to simply remove letters you deemed unnecessary and that changed your entire language

whereas the rest of the world go ahead were there any other are there any other letters that have like this extra phonetic uh you know letters no letters no words yes okay that's why we like we have you in like favorite and color and things like that where we extend the the phonetic of that vowel part but americans removed it because i ain't paying for that so essentially makes sense i mean it's very it does better and that's and that's like what like that i'm not saying that's a negative thing i. I'm saying that's – there's a word for it where it's like it makes sense. Cost efficiency? Cost efficiency. You know, your adaptation to the world around you, things like that.

Because you're not going to spread literacy and go bankrupt. Like I've got a job here to do. and go bankrupt. Like, I've got a job here to do. At the risk of getting political, if you look at the current events in the United States, spreading literacy is not exactly something that people are concerned with. How dare you? I mean, one of the hosts is doing his best to spread it all over Aberdeen.

That's true. He's going to start a little library pretty soon, I can tell. Aberdeen Book Club. Yep. I think I'm pretty sure his wife already runs that didn't she i think she's like part of a book club out there and then they'll beat massonomics for best podcast oh yeah in in the aberdeen magazine yeah yeah they get snubbed in the magazine for a second time i want to see what the next billboard is going to be it's been a while since i've had one of those uh i wonder if it's going to be a billboard because we did crack the 500 mark right i wonder what the next thing is going to be like the next yeah they're sending out yeah that's one thing we could talk about he oh he i'm trying to think i i swear i

saw i hinted in the discord today but i think i'm thinking of something else oh he was he was hinting about having the world's strongest man on i think uh the mentioned yeah mitchell hooper because there was there was some controversy about a shirt he has and he was like hey is this such and such he's like well we should be able to find out shortly or something to that extent but i could have swore i could have swore i saw something there's so many different there's so much stuff that happens on discord that it's so hard to keep track of it. But I swear, I saw something that was a hint at what the giveaway was going to be, but I might be misremembering it, but I'm, I'm very curious.

The way they said it last night, they were like, cause we were able to listen live last night. So that's another big, you know, benefit to being a supporting member is you get access to all the behind the scenes stuff on discord. So, and that's, that's kind of one of my favorite things about being a supporting member is you get access to all the behind the scenes stuff on discord so and uh that's that's kind of one of my favorite things about being a sport member being listening live and we'll be able to have that banter back and forth with them during the live recording i think uh one of the hosts mentioned my name like three times you know so like as as like not important as that is in like the grand scheme of the world like that thing made my night you know to know that like you know my so i i said something witty

enough to come across their eyes to like interject into the conversation uh or to answer a question so like that is one of my favorite things on wednesday night to do uh is to be able to you know partake in that so if that's something that sounds good to you guys if you're somehow listening to this podcast and are not a sporting member be sure to uh sign up now speaking of operations that are like you're you're part of the family you know we're we're the unpaid interns but we're people too dang it well we are the family like we have our own podcast for us right like for sure you know there wouldn't there's not a lot of corporations out there where you could be like well i'm going to start a business on the inside

on your time because like i was like you guys go do that like i'm sick of you talking about it um so it sounds like a prison market like what how many menthols for a big mac like speaking of episodes i had a message recently from one of the uh not novelty accounts but like one of the fun accounts on the side right which was recentonomics and they asked me they said um what if you guys had a segment where you rated this week's episode out of jd powers awards and like i think i'm in i think i want to do that uh so i want to ask you, Keith, first, this week's episode with that fella from Bar Bend,

who is apparently now working for your favorite company in the world, Teller 4. How do you rate this week's episode? One, zero, actually. Yeah, I was going to say. Three or five JD Power Associates. Can there be a negative involved? I mean, I have to.

So I'm going to use my druthers on this one. Cutting base, touching base on a couple things. So I always enjoy the episode in general. This week's guest was someone that I don't have a lot of familiarity with other than his relationship with now Fuller Ford. I didn't have high expectations going in. I wasn't really sure. I just didn't want to... I'm not a big fan of Fuller Ford. I don't like high expectations going in. I wasn't really sure. I just didn't want to, you know, I'm not a big fan of Pillar 4.

I don't like big corporation, essentially. And they're like buying up all these small, smaller companies and kind of making just the whole world more corporate. And I'm not a fan of that in general. In his defense, he was fully transparent about it and has been from the very beginning, where some of the other people in Filler Ford's catalog are completely deceptive and will lie through their teeth and hide every aspect of it if they can. So the fact that he had the balls to be completely transparent and just the fact that it's massomics in general. So negative five out of five, I'm going to rate it at a five J.D. Powers. Rich, what do you got this week? So unfortunately, I haven't been able to listen to the episode.

I've been a little busy riding two horses with one ass. But I have no doubt that it'll be another spectacular five out of five J.D. Powers. Right. So I did listen to it as a former whiskey connoisseur myself. have no doubt that it'll be another spectacular five out of five jd powers all right so i did listen to it as a former whiskey connoisseur myself i did find some very interesting um opinions about whiskey i did appreciate how transparent and excited he was to work for pillar four um because at least you know we felt that it was genuine um i did also appreciate being mentioned for my powerlifting meet and for overrated underrated uh but i mean there's ultimately up and downs to every podcast so i think if i really had my druthers and had to go

with it i think i would give this one five jd power associates so we'll mark that in the record i think we'll have that on the record for recentonomics or repeatonomics um we'll have big kevin start a spreadsheet for it because i've i've got enough spreadsheets going for this podcast so if you pick kevin from last week help us out who what's a spreadsheet yeah i hear that kevin really excels at those. Ooh. Yeah. Nice one. That was very good. That was very good. So should we get our guest on the horn?

I think it's been a good half an hour, 30, 40 minutes. Basically, he's been waiting in the lobby there. We've had him on mute this whole time. So yeah. I haven't bought a shit. All right. Well, I guess we unmuted him pretty quickly. Hey, Big Rich, is that you?

Hey, how's it going, guys? You are live on the Unpaid and Underrated podcast. Can I swear on this thing? Absolutely. Yes, but somebody will be upset about it. There will be ramifications, but you can get away with it. You can do whatever you want, but you will be seen as the type of person that does that thing. Now, I have to make sure first. foremost is this rich or is this michael i mean we look so similar it's it's easy to to not be able to tell uh tell the difference

i love that reaction i was waiting for that tell me about that so uh i had i do have a a twin brother um that looks absolutely nothing like me we live we we uh for the longest time i had blonde hair he had uh dark hair um we both had blue eyes it was about where everything ended um i've always been on the larger uh side, in terms of body mass. Uh, he was always much smaller, uh, spent most of his, uh, adolescent years under a hundred pounds. Um, he is, uh, five, three in his boots. Um, I'm five, nine, um, very, very disparate, uh, people, very different personalities.

Um, he, uh, we, we even live on opposite coasts. Very, very disparate people, very different personalities. He we even live on opposite coasts. He's he's over in California, stationed at 29 Palms in the Marine Corps. And I'm over here in North Carolina. Now, was that his Batman costume that you wore for so many years as a kid? Or was that your own Batman costume that you refused to take off for a very long time as a kid? No, no, that was definitely mine, to the point of introducing myself to a preschool teacher as Batman. God, Steen gave you guys so much. Oh, shit.

I'm in trouble. What made you think this was all Steen? How do you know I didn't reach out to Michael? Like, I have the whole world in front of me right now. Because Michael doesn't respond to anything. Maybe not to you. Okay, fair. You did say you weren't very close, so I mean.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, physically. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yes. Yes. Full on. close so i mean yeah yeah i mean like physically right okay gotcha yes uh yes full-on um having your wife as part of the crew did make this a little easier for me and i'm still getting the reactions i love when we hit people with just the most random facts about their life and childhood. Oh, right. There is one she did ask me to ask you. Okay.

And I'm going to have to pull a me on this one. Okay. So who don't you know? Kate Bobate. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Oh, okay. So you wouldn't know who that is oh okay uh so you wouldn't know uh who that is that's our dog uh she's a 12 year old staffy mix um who is about as neurotic a dog uh as can exist um but and she's also my first dog i've i've never had a dog prior to uh prior to this uh my my mom was allergic growing up um

and when i was living alone uh i never really had a uh i need to have a dog um in uh my uh in my first marriage um we we were always renting so uh paying a pet deposit having to worry about damage uh from uh from pets and stuff was uh kind of a concern uh financially so it didn't make sense for us to have uh pets at the time um so yeah i am 32 years old and have a dog for the first time and that has been a very interesting experience um she partially tore her ccl which is the the dog equivalent of an acl in the knee um uh almost going on going on two weeks ago um so she's been on kennel rest uh and i think i can hear her barking through my headphones um she is feeling better now to the point where like she is itching to get out of this

fucking kennel and i can't remember um but but you know the first thing a dog's gonna do is bound out of there oh my god jump all over the couch that she hasn't been able to re-injure themselves two weeks yep they're gonna follow up with her vet on uh on monday we're expecting good news she's she's been uh in high spirits she's been she hasn't even been limping when when we've like let her out to use the bathroom and stuff so should be uh should be good news all right i feel less bad about not knowing who that is yeah no that is not a famous person that is my dog if you got a lot of questions in here that I didn't add I'm gonna let you do a couple of these

yeah I'll jump in right in I think I think some of them are actually from big Nate but yeah um so here's one I'll just do some more of I'll just kind of round about get to it uh so we were Big Spoon was on with us you know a month couple a month and a half ago and we did one of our initial round tables to kind of produce this and he mentioned that you were on another podcast back oh shit somebody actually remembered that oh yes but but we all remembered so we all remembered it's in my notes as magic the gathering let me fix it but when i was so it's actually this is so i got a little funny story basically like i thought you said it was just about magic in general and i thought you were just a fucking magician that just like magic on the side and i was so confused when i got on the

on the notes this week and nate had put magic the gathering and i'm like what i could have like am i wrong or is nate wrong okay so i'm definitely wrong and you are not a magician you played the card no although i wish i was a magician i do I do think that illusion, sleight of hand, all that stuff is very cool. But unfortunately, I don't have that skill set. That's hysterical. This was peak nerd shit with people that don't know how to take showers. Can confirm. I did not play MTG, but directly across from my high school was a comic book shop and yeah basement was a

table a lamp and some chairs where we would go on our lunch break or on our free period and play magic and but i didn't play so i would just go can you guys hear that no my whole house just rumbled i think a car drove by oh shit a little jealous a little jealous um i i thought that was part of your story of what you did when you watched these people play magic you just like stared at them awkwardly and i was like is this a bit i'm so confused oh no i would chirp i would chirp and drink my pepsi and just sit and watch magic the gathering so i can't confirm that they they are some fucking nerds. It was a good time.

I don't regret it at all. It was a good period of my time. It was a great time, Wester. Met a lot of really good people that are still great friends. But I stopped having fun with the game, so I've been out of it for a couple of years now. But yeah, it was called dgen cast um i think they i don't know when they recorded last it was always kind of a uh whenever we felt

like we had something to talk about we didn't do it weekly or anything like that um but uh my original co-host uh kept up with it uh we replaced myself with another friend of ours as the second host. And they've been carrying the mantle since then. So if you were to start another podcast now, if I base that off of the shit I see in your stories, I'm going to assume it'd be about this F1 racing thing instead of... So a follow-up to that more or less uh so you live in like deep south essentially like and you're an f1 fan but isn't isn't nascar like the king down there like how is that like people bust your balls for watching f1 and like not being a

dale earnhardt fan or anything like that so i so i live in charlotte which is actually the home of NASCAR, not just NASCAR being big in the South. I live in the home of NASCAR. So yeah, there's a little bit of that from like neighbors and stuff, uh, work colleagues are also Formula One fans. Um, but also, um, uh, Haas, Haas or Haas, I'm never really clear on how to pronounce it, uh, automation, which sponsors the Stuart Haas, uh, NASCAR team also has a Formula One team. formula one team um so i uh i pull for uh mercedes uh who just came off of a long uh period of time of being dominant um but i always have that kind of like hometown hope that hassle do something awesome um there's still probably several years from uh uh, being a serious contender, but I, I, you know,

it's kind of one of those, any given Sunday, they can be in the right place at the right time. Um, and they're, they're a smaller outfit than anyone else. They do it with less money than anyone else. Like it's,

it's very much this, uh, you know, uh, chip in a chair, uh, American dream thing that they're doing. So,

um, yeah, it's fun it's it's a lot of fun better cooking probably if i had to start a podcast to answer your actual uh question but i don't know that there's really a big market for cooking podcasts uh especially for um youtube for sure podcast maybe not as much It'd be a lot harder to translate, I think. And not from IT professionals that live in the deep South. Like it's. So I have a question as a Canadian. Okay. What does roll tide mean? Uh, roll tide. If I hear roll tide means that you don't know your ABCs. Um, okay. It's no's no it's do you have

the real answer like so it's about so alabama football like the the the alabama it's a it's a big college they've uh had been a perennial powerhouse in college football and their thing is basically roll tide i uh i don't know much more than that. What is their actual mask? Their mascot's an elephant. Like, how do you get Roll Tide from an elephant? But they're not like the Alabama elephants. I think it's, I don't even know. It's like Crimson Tide.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The name of the team is Crimson Tide. Then that makes more sense. Okay, full disclosure. I thought it was a NASCAR thing. And I thought it was about the tide car flipping i'm gonna be up front with you about that i thought it was about the the tide car flipping no if and if you got that that's because of my disdain for alabama football i got it while

you were you were talking about nascar and formula one oh wait maybe he can explain this phrase yeah no that is all the time that is a college football thing that unfortunately you see a lot of hey i'm in people like was that one oh no no alabama specifically unfortunate thing football is fine i'm i'm down with football it's alabama specifically um i and this is this is too deep of a subject to get into on this thing okay but i feel very i feel very strongly about the uh massive mismatch between alabama university academics and alabama a university football and that is a recurring mismatch in a lot of perennial powerhouses in the ncaa so i won't get into that actually on my way out of university in my final year i wrote my bachelor's thesis on how that that played even

in my university so that's a common thing in general uh but anyway fucking nerds i have no room to talk what i do for a living yeah i've got to make what do i do i do nothing i'm customer service um so you were married recently who does that uh me twice um so not recently twice because i feel recently recently once recently. Yeah. So we only care about the crew. We only care about crew weddings.

Yeah. The last wedding. Big Steve and I got married on April 1st, which was a, a bit of an inside joke turned legitimate anniversary. So when we were dating that was our uh assumed anniversary because we didn't remember when we actually started dating we just knew it was in april and we decided that april 1st was a a funny choice uh and so april fool's day was our

uh anniversary and then uh we realized that uh you know we we want to do the thing get married do life uh all of that and we realized that april 1st uh this year fell on a saturday and we're like well i mean it's perfect we can make it our actual anniversary so yeah we got we got married uh april 1st um and yeah so far so good so congratulations yeah i understand you wore a masonomic shirt to your wedding i did i wore uh my uh discord crew shirt as a matter of fact uh underneath underneath uh my uh my actual shirt that i uh wore for uh for getting married um but yeah my my undershirt was my discord crew shirt so did i actually for my wedding because we got married outside in january so i you may or may not have been the inspiration for that stop it yes i wore the varsity long

sleeve shirt under my winter jacket and other layers but i did not know no it was uh it was a point i was falling where it was going yeah because i always get confused if he's talking about it if his joke is only if he says jacket or a potent jacket or interchangeable but i always you know oh you can't joke about that up in canada in january it was negative 14 the wind was so piercing that i built a four-foot snow wall to try and minimize it then we lit a fire within the four foot snow wall it was so cold that we did the vows and then ran inside to warm up and then so when you're like hoodie i kind of got the joke but i was like no it was very cold sorry about that i think you're a little further north in ontario than where than mississauga

right yeah yeah so actually a little i'm about west of mississauga are you okay um we we had a a standing joke in my previous role um team that i uh worked on uh that for whatever reason i always would get sent to mississauga in december um and it without fail anytime that i had to go to canada it was in december and that's fine because like half of december is most canadians going i wish it would snow it's almost christmas and then the last half of december is murder it was it was late enough that uh that there was always several feet of snow and the this year the first two weeks back to the weather on this podcast like look at us look at us taking after the main podcast who'd have thought um who'd have thought um the first two weeks of december leading up to about my birthday and then my wife's birthday it was warm enough some of us were just in in hoodies yeah in shorts in just shoes going like it's gonna be christmas

i wish it would snow and then it didn't stop snowing for like a week and it just built up forever and the snow and the ice and yeah so maybe that was a little ptsd there where i'm just like no you don't joke about that it was the worst we we had actually um scheduled the wedding as well um during the lockdown that happened up here you know with everything going on so it was it was a very unpleasant time but congratulations on your wedding thank you and steen um you know we all love steen doesn't post very often but when she does we're in she's uh she's she's figuring out this whole massonomics thing and it was it was it was actually kind of a giddy moment for me when she was like so how do you join this thing and i was like yes a convert i did it. All right.

Should we move into, do you want to go into that yet, Keith? Do you want to go into overrated and underrated? I got, it wasn't one of my questions, but I do need to ask it just because. Keep going. His answer is going to dictate if I can be friends with him or not anymore. I think it's one of your wife's questions to Joey. Do you have a, I don't know if it's a preference thing or you don't think you need to do it at both times, but brushing teeth at night versus in the morning. Is there a story there?

Because if you only brush your teeth once a day, I'm not talking to you anymore. No. So I'm much better about doing it at night than in the morning. At night is literally like clockwork. the morning uh at night is literally like clockwork uh to the to the point that like uh she'll like lay down and then it'll be like kind of a chore to get up to uh like uh go do it again i'm like no no come on we're this is this is the thing we're this is this is not negotiable and then in the morning she's like hey dumbass don't don't forget to do this gotcha so it's just more that she's she's a morning person and you're a

night person you know basically when you're both more alert maybe kind of thing now she's she's uh she's more a likes to rest person so if she's going to be up and and moving about she's going to get shit done um it's it's a it's an inertia thing you know if an object in motion stays in motion so i would i guess then keep that you are very adamant about brushing your teeth. Because I barely brush my teeth at night. And I'll tell you why. It's because I push myself until I am so asleep that I'm either sleepwalking or passed out on the couch. That sometimes I just forget to.

And sometimes I'll have a beer in my hand or I'll have a pop in my hand or something like that. But in the morning, it is the first thing I do. I wake up, I shut my alarm off and I brush my teeth. And if anything gets in my way, it's like a fight. So that's really, it's funny that it's something, if I remember, I usually do it at night. But most of the time I just wake up on the couch at three in the morning and go,

and stumble into bed power lifting actually made me a better sleeper believe it or not i i it it incentivized me to go to bed at a reasonable hour and get good sleep yeah because with without it i am fucking useless yeah i i feel so bad i have everything's off and it's just like ah man like everything just feels lightly crappy if i don't get good sleep so like it's it's one of those things i taught myself to do i think we can go and overrate it underrated in a minute but i don't know if joey forgot or if he doesn't have one but i want a joey silly question now should we do it later i'll let you guys decide do you want to do that now or do you want to do that after we're already underrated Now should we do it later?

I'll let you guys decide. Do you want to do that now or do you want to do that after Overrated and Underrated? I don't know. It's a dealer's choice. Well, let's do it now because then we'll go Overrated or Underrated and then we'll let Spoon ask us a question. I think that's – I like kind of in and out. That's a good flow. That's a good flow. I'm going to tell you.

Do it. I just changed this as I was walking into this room to record it. So I had one. And then I went running into the living room to my wife. And I said, I asked her this question. And she looked at me like I was a psycho. Okay. So here's my question to you guys. Why do platypus need to glow in the dark?

question to you guys why do platypus need to glow in the dark druthers platypus is a platypus is that a dinosaur or is that an active mammal today that i just can't picture um oh this is a strange one wait who are you a platypus that's a marsypus that's a marsupial that is a marsupial looks like a beaver with a beaver tail duck feet poison tips and a duck bill somehow a real

animal he is not bullshitting you he lays eggs but why does it need to glow in the dark I was not aware that they did so i'm gonna need i know i guess the hype i think it's the hypothetical is his jokey it glows in the dark it really does under a uv they're bioluminescent bio or bioluminescent holy shit that's awesome i thought this was like some like random pull okay so no i legit thought that you

were pulling my leg that's amazing i love that okay but like why like they live in rivers they don't live in the ocean where bioluminescence is kind of like the big thing so like why would why would they need that they're evolutions leftovers like they're like, we had a little extra bioluminescence. Just sprinkle it on there. Salt bae style. I think it's just because they need to help us on our quests. Ultimately, I kind of think that platypus are just here to help us on whatever life quest that we need. Like Legend of Zelda, where you eat a fish and you glow.

Yeah, yeah. I love it. But when you can't see at night, the platypus are there to guide you. that we need like legend of zelda where you like eat a fish and you glow yeah yeah but like but like when you can't see at night like the platypus are there to guide you i am uh i am down with this explanation of reality i'm 100 in absolutely so keith why do platypus glow in the dark man i would say so they're did you say they lay eggs so they must have a bunch of kids so their kids can see their parents better at night i'm still hung up on the fact that keith didn't know what a platypus is there's gonna be so many memes about like this is a platypus you dumb ass like i don't know what it

is uh but like i'm gonna start them when we get off here and it's gonna be like a zebra or something wouldn't it make it more them more prone do you just get attacked and like murdered by other animals because like okay so so they're only bioluminescent um from what i understand under uv light which is kind of even more insane because doesn't exist in the world nothing sees in uv light but like i guess scientists just had uv lights and we're like okay come on like now you also glow i think rich are you looking it up no it's not a benefit it's not a beneficial glow to i am making a memes because i get to make the first one um and nobody's going to know what i'm talking about

until this episode fantastic i think you might need to hold off on that just so we can power through man but like i can talk all right yeah like that's that's it like they glow in the dark strange i do like data that maybe their kids see that's actually really smart yeah it's got a feature it's got to have some feature because there's no bioluminescence that i'm aware of do we know that no animals can see UV? I'm assuming. I don't know that off the top of my head. Because that would be an inter...

Or let's... I'm curious. Like, if... So, that'd be weird. Like, so they glow in the dark under certain parameters, but they can't see themselves or their spouse, you know, their other equivalent glow in the dark. So, can they see UV? Yeah see yeah yeah or it would only make sense if they can if they're predators because then they would because then they could spot themselves like they could spot their cousin you know down the block you know yeah in the woods

in the river like that would be an intriguing thing but if it's just like it could be a mating thing too that's true because if they can see in UV, like, maybe it is... How they find each other. Like Keith says, that's how they find each other. But, like, maybe the brightest of them, you know, is the better mate or the least best mate. Also, have scientists put every single animal in the existence under a UV light? Or is this just the only one that they've tested that we know of? Well, we're definitely not putting humans under UV light. It're just like holding them under a uv light and see what happens

not not you they can't this dog's boring bring back a lot of puss that's good stuff anyway that's my silly joke of the week or silly question of the week um that's a random answer if you're out listening to this and you know the answer because everything i read which was not a lot said that we don't know the answer um but yes platypus glow in the dark and no nobody on this current podcast knows why they're also not dinosaurs they're also not dinosaurs or mammals or a man are you are you sure yes are you sure like are they marsupials yes that's insane because i thought the possum was the only marsupial in north america

now we got the google machine go we got the google machine going it's a mammal yeah they lay eggs but they're a mammal that lays eggs oh fuck yeah alright so I'm not insane do possums glow in the dark like do possums lay eggs no possums do not glow in the dark

because if they did they'd probably get hit by cars less that's true those poor things all they want to do is eat ticks and protect us. A lot of roadkill talk in the last couple of weeks. You know why? Because I live in the country. I see a lot of roadkill. So we got this game we like to play.

It's called Overrated Underrated, and we'd play it with every guest every week. Essentially, we're going to give you a list of handpicked topics for you, big, rich spoon man. And I have six of them possibly seven if anything like last week happens and i suck at this laces out dan we crashed and burned on like three of those oh i know but okay full But okay, in my defense, the Instagram one, I got vindicated. Oh, yeah. I saw someone posted. Big mofo guy was like, Kevin, this is the post Joey was talking about.

And Kevin had posted about being Instagram censored and he forgot. So I brought it up during the podcast and he was like, I have no clue what you're talking about. But no, it did happen. I am only a crazy person. Most of the time. It is big mofo guy, but according to Tanner, one of the hosts, it is moto guy. That was kind of a gag. And then someone responded with the motorcycle emoji.

That was classic. Look out for him to be on the podcast in the coming weeks. Now it's coming up we got a couple guests lined up a little short list going um but let's focus on this guest and we're going to put it underrated now keep in mind you have your druthers of course but ultimately you have to pick a side yep let's do it overrated or underrated squatting to depth fuck you keith that one wasn't me that one wasn't me that was underrated of course yeah no he's been having a little fun with me on uh on instagram about this it's always been a uh a struggle you should go

back and watch watch some really old stuff it was atrocious um but it's it's something i've been working on uh a mobility standpoint. I was over 100 pounds bigger than I am currently just two years ago. So there's a lot of relearning my body going on. And part of that has been mobility focused. But we're getting there. Able to do it relatively well. My ability to get a good camera angle in my garage sucks.

So a lot of the depth stuff is camera. Obviously, I have my days where, like, I can't move to save my fucking life. There is a ton of stretching involved, by the way, to get anywhere close. Stretching or warming up? Both. Okay. Couch stretch in particular has been very, very important. Pigeon stretch.

Pigeon stretch is the one that does it for me. Because I also squat pretty high. I'm going to jump in and say, so do I. I found that widening my stance and sticking to a lot of pigeon stretches, couch stretches, um, but also just never squatting and only doing push pull really the key to this. I promise. Yeah. Now squats, my favorite lift. So I, I definitely want to get to a point where no matter what platform I'm on, no matter who's who the judges are um i i could consistently hit three white lights that's that's that's the goal so um obviously with a training age of under two years um

we're gonna have some things that we need to work on so um of course uh squatting to death is depth is underrated um all right yeah sorry overrated or underrated bucket hats oh underrated oh my god a quintessential piece of the uh summer fat man attire is is the bucket hat um the most the more ostentatious of a pattern, the better. I remember my first bucket hat was from Coors Light. They had put them in all of the Coors Light packages, and they were everywhere. Just every kid had one, and the teachers were like, you can't wear that. That has beer on it. And I was like, oh, it's free, and it's mine.

So that's actually us. Anything you could put on a Hawaiian shirt, you can put on that that has beer on it and i was like oh it's free and it's mine right so that's actually anything anything you could put on a hawaiian shirt you can put on a bucket hat and it's i can't believe you said that because i was literally about to ask you does it pair well with a hawaiian shirt absolutely that is fantastic uh overrated underrated for the ignorant one here what is a bucket hat um i'm trying to use context clues and i think i know what it is but i think i don't so all right so round hat uh has kind of a it's a hat you wear on your head yeah there's no other answer it's a hat you wear in your head typically linen or canvas or uh it's cloth uh of some kind typically um doesn't have a hard uh brim like a like a ball cap does um uh if you know like uh uh i can just google but yeah i just didn't know i was for a second i was like thinking about the plastic hat with the beer on the side and the have you ever heard have you ever heard the song

steal my sunshine by len no probably okay so maybe that was just a Canadian. Yeah. That song is a bucket hat. Gilligan's hat. Yes. Okay, there we go. Gilligan from Gilligan's Island. Yep, I know what a Gilligan hat is now.

I should have started with that. That makes more sense. You should have started with a hat you wear on your head. That was the only thing. Yeah, that's true. It was kind of a softie. I thought it was implied, but I forgot. People can't always hat you wear on your head. That was the only thing. Yeah, that's true. It was kind of a softie. I thought it was implied, but I forgot. People can't always hear what's in my head.

All right. Overrated, underrated. Weddings. Oh, overrated. Hell yeah. Paid weddings. Never again. Now, I say that with the caveat that we did we did the full shebang uh for for my first marriage

um and it was super fun uh don't have any notes about that um however um yeah eloping is the way to go sorry um for for everyone that has the dream of uh the big white wedding um do it listen if it's your if it's your dream do it um but uh if you're wondering if uh it's just as good without all the pomp and circumstance the answer is yes agreed i've been in roughly 12 to 14 wedding parties in the wedding party. I have been everything from ring bearer to groom. I have been two, including those, up to 20 weddings. And I will tell you from experience, they're all the same. They all suck. And 98% of them end in divorce. Don't waste your money. Don't waste your time. You don't need the stress. But that's my personal opinion um i will probably never attend another wedding again until it's my children unfortunately that means a lot to my

friends some of them disappointed some of my family members are disappointed but i said look man it's just not worth it for me you spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars putting on the suit now i gotta find a babysitter because i have kids now i said just don't invite me send me a card so i can send you some money and wish you well but i'm not coming and my wedding was a secret wedding in the backyard surrounded by my family and a fire and that was it so i'm with you i'm 100 with you on that we had the legally required five people in attendance we had correct one of my friends was a was the efficient uh her husband was my uh best man and steen's best friend was there as the maid of honor um my parents and my kids double double as the legal witnesses that you need for signing uh paperwork so keith any insight um i would say if the if you guys want the wedding have the wedding

my my biggest uh my i feel when i got married jesus in 2008 uh i i feel that like my, I don't want to bash my wife's family, but like they had way too much say, um, like the, the damn the wedding ends up becoming for the family and not the husband and wife. And then I don't, I, I, I roll my, roll my eyes at that whole concept. Uh, I mean, marriage is the most sacred thing to me in my world. I enjoyed my wedding, you know, know uh if you want to have a wedding have a wedding um end of the day it's about you and your wife though yeah yeah not not not to bash divorce and second weddings but the second weddings that i've gone to my gift was significantly

smaller i'm assuming that's like a normal thing like if you go to a second wedding like i don't feel that i need to give you two or three hundred dollars you're getting like 50 bucks or nothing like like no i mean and that's just i don't know i just people get divorced all the time i get it but like if i have to keep coming to your wedding like you're getting less and less each time i come to your wedding yeah i want to have more divorce parties like i want one divorce party i'll go to your wedding but then i want to go to the divorce party because nobody ever gets divorced when things are going well it's not like well this has been going really great i love you a lot but like maybe let's end it like that never

happens um whereas weddings sometimes people get married even when shit's not going great and they're gonna divorce anyway um but that's a personal thing i so great great answer because like yes i 100 degree you want to get married you want to do it go do it go have fun invite all of the people that are just going to fight and make you feel guilty about their way they're sitting and complain about their food anyway do that and i tell you the 20 weddings i've been to i have seen all of it i do have to say though with the the uh divorce thing um with with all things said if if there is such thing as a good divorce i did have one i know they happen with my ex-wife yeah we have a son together uh that we co-parent but it wasn't because his birthday is tomorrow um and we are celebrating at the zoo on uh on saturday i'm going to you guys

are going to the top wow that's an expensive weekend not uh not that zoo um that's good call happy birthday to your to your son thank you um i will tell him as such um but like i'm gonna see all of my my ex-in-laws too so like we're we we have a good rapport um if there is such thing as a good divorce i had one and there's gotta be because but like i don't think anybody gets divorced because things are going well no no no and and that thing things are definitely not going well in my marriage right like it's it's never everything's going great we're financially set we love each other it's a work to get this idea now yeah yeah i'm just sick of this idea of marriage like nobody ever does that all right

on overrated or underrated this is not mine sporks uh you gotta use your druthers on that because is a spork highly rated like if we play the game like and that's that's the thing i i don't know that sporks are highly rated and but i i do feel at the end i still have to say overrated despite the fact that they may not be highly rated to begin with and the reason for that is that they do like they're obviously a fork and a spoon together but they do both jobs kind of shittily and not better than each one does its job by itself so despite the fact that it's probably already not highly rated unless you were an avid fan

of Taco Bell in the 90s, I still have to say overrated. We don't have them up here. I don't think I've ever... Don't have Sporks or don't have Taco Bell? I have lots of Taco Bells. I don't think I've ever been mean they're a thing forks or don't have a taco bell i have lots of taco bells oh i i don't think i've ever been like man umbraise is lacking yeah i don't think it's it's like 90 a spoon and just just a little ridges a little shitty times on the end but they

wouldn't really there wouldn't wouldn't be super effective uh just give me chopsticks at that rate like you can eat anything better with chopsticks than you can eat with a fork i don't know i as someone who eats like a cold lunch out of a lunch pail every day i have a ziploc bag with like 10 forks and like three or four spoons and it does suck when i use all my forks up and i have to eat my cold chicken with a spoon that's a son of a bitch but a spork there would be you know considerably an improvement. But if you had chopsticks, that would be a non-concern because chopsticks can scoop and chopsticks can stab and chopsticks can pick up. I've never had luck. In the right hands, maybe, but not I.

I know that that's a very common thing. I can't do it. With sticky rice. You've got to use the sticky rice. I do. That's the thing. With the crumbly rice, no. It doesn't work work you need a fork or a spoon for that stuff right but um most food medium grain super sticky like it's the the problem is that it's all in one container with

my meal prep and so like this the like stuff from my chicken or from my uh vegetables or beef or turkey or whatever the hell uh is in there gets on it and it like it starts a sticky rice it doesn't stay sticky it's on by i introduced an unbinding agent yeah i uh i have a couple sets of uh camping utensils that uh i pack in my work bag um for uh for meal prep okay well that's interesting you bring that up because overrated or underrated meal prep oh man uh i'm gonna have to draw theirs on this one probably and if anything just, just to buy time to decide this.

I think for like no, I think we'll just go flat underrated. We're just going to say underrated. And the reason is even if you don't have concrete nutritional, uh, goals, even if you don't have, uh, now targets you're trying to hit, you don't have a, uh, a fitness goal or anything like that. It saves you so much goddamn money uh in in the end making uh making meals in bulk and just you

know even if you if your version of uh meal prep is the like the leftovers method where you just cook something and you use the leftovers as meal prep um there's less food waste and it saves you time over eating out. It has things prepared. It's convenient. I got to go with underrated. I thought I was going to have to reconcile those two things because obviously it's underrated for like if you're lifting and you have a busy life. Saves you a ton of time saves you a lot of money it's it's it's great for that um i but i wasn't sure i was going to be able to reconcile

those two but no it's just underrated all right then the last one which is always in my opinion the most important whether you pass or not or relies this one. Overrated or underrated. This one comes from at least two separate people, which are not steam. Okay. Okay. Lowry's Seasoning Salt. So Lowry's Seasoning Salt is overrated because it has sunflower oil in it which i'm allergic to is that the only reason because i love laurie seasoning salt here's here's the thing no yes that is that is actually

the only reason because i love lauries and i can't have it because on your chicken wings a little bit of butter a little bit of lauries a little bit Tabasco, the best chicken wings you'll ever eat. Chicken wings, pork chops, anything you're making with ground beef. It's delicious. I love it. So do you have a nut allergy or is it a sunflower seed allergy? Sunflower. So sunflower seed is not a nut then. Sunflower seeds, sunflower lecithin And Sunflower oil

Oil, depending on Concentration And stuff I can have oil without realizing it Lecithin Tends to have a little bit of gastric distress Seeds will put me in the hospital That's insane

So if anyone in the crew wants to kill me that's the way to do it i'll bring you the box i love sunflower seeds and that's that it's one of my summertime when i need salt things i have a salt addiction and i just need salt and i'll go through those just non-stop they're gross and messy though also seen in Ace Ventura when he eats the sunflower seeds on the Miami Dolphins desk, played by Courtney Cox. I am going to bring

this back now, thanks to Big Kevin, every week. He's probably got at least 25 movies that we should all at least have some. It's going to be hard though. Cause like, if you like deep dive into a movie to get like one thing,

it's like, I haven't watched a, a, you know, a Jim Carrey movie in probably 10 years. So it's like, I do. I've absolutely memorized both Ace Venturas,

probably dumb and dumber. Even this dumb and dumber were the sequel with the two kids, was kind of funny. They were better in Fired Up. So I don't know if you've ever seen Fired Up, the cheerleader movie. That's worth at least one watch. That was really funny. That sounds funny. The mask, I think I saw a lot as a kid, but I don't think I'm as dedicated in memorizing it.

I know the mask better than a lot of the other ones, bro. Now, hit me with arnold movies i got you and then not so much but then like the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind when he decided number 23 yeah that's um anyway so i think you passed overrated underrated oh terrific except except for your sunflower seed. Thing makes me sad. I can be in the same room with them. I just can't. I try to avoid them.

It's more a oral digestion than it is just like a I work with a guy that's got a nut allergy. I've never been experienced that in my life. If I eat a packet of nuts at lunch and I'm anywhere, if I'm just talking to him 10 minutes later, he can tell when can tell when like starts like no i'm not i'm not that sensitive well when i'm at work and i'm eating a protein bar i have i ask everybody are you or

your children allergic to nuts this has nuts in it and if they say yes i don't like i can't open it right because apparently not out which is just insane they're very very sensitive. I had some people that I knew in high school that were hyper sensitive. Crazy. What a weird world. I think it's time for Rich to ask us our questions. All right. Well, your questions are going to be a game. I think this might become my favorite segment too.

Very, very similar to y'all's game of underrated, overrated. Y'all Roll Tide? Roll Tide. This is a game of Smash or Pass. Oh, no. It's not people. It's topics. Okay, okay.

Yeah, no, I wouldn't do that to you. I was like, I was like, I can use my druthers and put my marriage in risk here. I'm smashing pass. This isn't people. Um, it's, it's all, uh, all topics. Uh, again, you, you're, uh, allowed your druthers just like with overrated or underrated. Um, but in the end you must choose either smash or pass. Are y'all ready to play?

Let's do it. All right. all right um and and both of you can can give an answer to all of these um so smash or pass the state of west virginia science is my home state it is i mean oh wow like i'm glad i don't live there anymore there's a lot of just horrible low low-caliber humans there. But all my family's there. The state's beautiful. It has its moments. So, yeah, smash.

Smash West Virginia. Joey's dying. Joey is like, oh, I must have said something funny. I don't know. He's rolling over there. We really do got to figure out a way to get this on YouTube someday. I've never heard of it. I've never been. I have no answer. this is we really do gotta figure out a way to like get this on youtube someday because i've never heard of it i've never been i have no i have no answer um is that where the fresh prince was

from west virginia born and raised that was west philadelphia that's that's gonna be a meme too versus west virginia now uh west virginia it is a it's uh so new york pennsylvania west virginia like if you're going north to north to south so it's like two states from me okay and that's where i like i know west virginia no i know but i don't have an opinion of it i've never been there never heard of it but i really enjoyed you saying i hate everybody from there dot dot dot my family my family i think that's where you finally i had to mute my computer for a second well and according to john denver it's almost heaven so yeah well that john denver's full of shit i love the callbacks oh i love them all right so i guess i'm gonna go ass all right you have to We got to smash and we got to smash.

I got us. Our next topic, dad jokes. Smash. Yeah. I got to go smash. Smash. Even the worst ones are still funny.

I have this theory that everybody rags on dad jokes but like dads just want to make you laugh we want to make you laugh in a way that is clean sometimes makes you roll your eyes but like ultimately we just want to say something that makes everybody around us feel good for a second and And everybody rags on us for it. But like, we're not punching up. We're not punching down. Sometimes we're mocking ourselves a little bit.

So I love dad jokes. I think that they are the cleanest form of humor. I think they're the purest form of humor. But they're also the stupidest form of humor. And I'm in for that. What's your ratio? So say like just mathematically if you were to hear five dad jokes a week how many are you laughing at how many are and how many are you

uh nose snorting it or no and a hundred percent with a dad joke at least a little bit of a chuckle at with a dad joke sometimes you're laughing at the fact that somebody told a dad joke yes sometimes the joke itself isn't funny but thank you for taking the opportunity that made me laugh i uh i have one that i tell my sister on her birthday every year um and when i when i open with it she knows that it's it's that joke but it's become tradition so i do it every year it's uh did did you know that uh in mexico they're big fans of mayonnaise uh so much so that uh yeah okay thanks for interacting uh joey we can we can continue so much so that on uh on the titanic they had uh 50 gallons uh not not 50 gallons like 50 uh big drums of man is destined for yeah barrels thank you uh that were destined for mexico uh after they made their stop in uh new york of course uh we

all know that the titanic did not survive its maiden voyage uh hit an iceberg and uh it sank and the uh the loss was so great for the mexican people that they instituted a national uh day of mourning which of course they titled cinco de mayo yep so my sister my sister's birthday is may 5th so that's good that's good my favorite dad joke. I'll hit you with it. Okay. You ever look up and see geese flying in a V and one side has more geese than the other. Do you know why that is? Because there's more geese on that side.

Like it's such a dumb unjoke. And I told it wrong. It's supposed to be one side's longer than the other it wrong it's supposed to be like one side's longer than the other because there's more geese on that side but like that's really funny um there was one i was really proud of my my life's dad is so good at them and my grandfather was amazing somebody will just say something and he'll just turf on that word and it's so funny every time sometimes when i tell them and i think they're really funny i will message him and go what remind me to tell you about this joke when i see you because i thought it was so good so shout out to john he's really

funny love it all right so next i think that was smash on both sides. So next smash or pass lifting belts for bench. Who does that? 100%. I do. I won't bench over. And once I hit 205, like, so like 80% or something, I put a belt on. For sure. Hard pass.

I've never benched that much. So I don't know what that's like. Whatever. Like the weights regardless. 80-ish percent. Like I usually like i'll do my warm-ups like so for me it's like uh once i get to one knee uh because i do like you know bar quarter plate quarter quarter you know etc uh once i get to 210 or 205 i'll put my wrist straps on 225 i'll put a belt on and then after that it's belt and wrist straps uh i've had a significant a significant lot of back cramping during bench.

I've hurt my back. So it helps you with cramping? Absolutely. I've shit the bed at meets on almost several third attempt benches because of back cramps. And I'm like sitting there with my, like trying to foam roll it out in between attempts or having someone put my massage gun on it. It's 100% smash. I've heard it's a thing somebody has asked me why don't you and then i was just like i don't know it i've never heard of that

uh now there are times of course when i get that weight up there and my uh my abductors just absolutely cramp up so if you ever watch you you'll never see it because i never i'm going to show you but if you ever see me benching and i'm holding the bar in the bench position but i'm wiggling my back it's because my back is cramped in that position um so i've thought about wearing a belt um but also it sounds very uncomfortable so you're not gonna wear it as tight as you would on squat either too so if you have but i also don't i'm also not sold on wearing it for squats and deads anymore because i don't brace properly so part of me thinks i could deadlift and squat without the belt the weights i currently do but that's just something i think i learned at the last meet where i slapped on that thing

and i did that deadlift and then was like i don't even recall wearing a belt doing it um so pass for me for now possible smash later no that's good to know that that's why uh why you uh belt i've i've uh had trouble with back ramping benching myself so maybe i'll have to give that a shot suddenly now i mean me and rich are going to be wearing a belt yeah just play play around with it keep it a little loose i mean it might be a different position it might be higher uh you know it's i i found great benefit in it but if you were someone that wears a super super tight lever belt and won't adjust the the tension on it between lifts like that wouldn't oh i have a pal so yeah so you'd be it a lever, but I can adjust it.

I'll squat on my tightest PAL section, and then I'll probably bench on the middle to the least. And then as far as what Joey said, deadlifting without a belt, yeah, I could pass on deadlifting with a belt for sure. I feel that that's the least, at least in my current state, it's a struggle for me to get to the bar with a belt on right now because my belly's a little too big. Alright. Smasher pass jammer arms. Pass, 100%. They're stupid. Is that

lingo? I don't know. So you would, like, have them on the front end of your squat rack, and you would, like, basically just think of, like, half an upright on top of your regular upright with handles on it. And you would do like military press. You could turn around and grow with them. They're not safety bars. No, no, no.

They're a sad attempt at giving you versatility on a rack that you get from isolation machines and bodybuilding. Pass because I've never heard of them before. Slightly biased. Articulate like that. Yeah, if they were safety arms, I'd be like, I'm in, because I almost died doing bench once. But jammer arms, never heard of it. Don't know what you're talking about. Is it a hat you wear on your head?

Don't know. Pass. Gilligan's hat. If it is a hat you're wearing on your head, something went horribly wrong. In the same vein, Smash or Pass Landmines. Pass. I had one. I owned it for like five years and

I think I used it twice and then I sold it during the pandemic for probably when I paid for it. For others, I have one. I have every intention of enjoying it and using it. Um, but I don't have the mobility of my gym to do so. I want to do, um, Viking press. I want to do T-bar rows. I want to do those things. I just don't have the, the current movement of placing the bar around and moving it around so i keep it for that reason i do have an attachment which would allow me to do most of those

um especially the one-armed kneeling viking press you can't you can't mess with those it hurts your back and hurts it like it it it does seem fun so i'm gonna say smash for now okay but when i have room in the gym and never use it i'll change that to smash or to pass dope you're smashing on potential i usually have you can ask a lot of people in my life next i'm glad you made that joke because i passed on it all right i go to a lot of weddings as a single man probably at one point yeah uh smasher past kettlebells that's tough like i used to use a lot of kettlebell work um i was still i'd smash a kettlebell.

Like currently I use it significantly less than I did like 10 years ago, five years ago, whatever. But I see them to be very beneficial. Um, I mean, yeah, if you were on a deserted Island, you could have like one thing, a kettlebell wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have, I guess. So yeah, I'd smash a kettlebell. I'm going to pass. I have quite a few.

I have, um, 15, 25, 40 pound smash a kettlebell. I'm going to pass. I have quite a few. I have 15, 25, 40 pound and a 35 pound. The 35 pound is a hammer. It's shaped like Thor's hammer, so it is not good for anything. But it's Thor's hammer. Yeah, it's goblet squats and snatches. That's all you're doing with it. I have some success with kettlebells as far as the utilization and toss them around, but I don't ever need to do it again. Now I respect the people that do. I have friends

in kettlebell sport. I have, uh, I follow a lot of people. And if you're like at home and your space is limited and you're just like, man, I just want to move a little bit. I don't know what to do. I want to do some resistance. I'll tell you to get a kettlebell any day of the week. Go get a 15 or 25 pound kettlebell and just start moving it. And I don't care if that's just swinging it with one arm. That's the one thing that I would tell people that if you can't do anything, do that. For me though, yeah, not.

The weights I would need to use to create resistance with a kettlebell yeah i like i've got to jump up to the 40 pound kettlebell but then what are you doing you're not tossing it around you're not doing proper snatches you're not doing any of that stuff so just nah i am but okay. Keep doing it. You asked me. Rich, you've given us a lot of sets and reps talk, a lot of serious talk. Do you have something funny to kind of round out and be the last one for this evening, even if it's off the top of your head? I feel like with our podcast, we should end with something a little more ganky.

Oh, yeah, no, no, no. Jokey. We've got a couple. Yeah, yeah. So the next one is funny. Fitness YouTube. In general? Oh, wow.

Because, like, there's a lot of garbage out there. So, like, out of the ones that I follow, 100% smash. If I was to take, like, the statistic of how many good ones are out there, it'd have to be pass. Because there's a lot of people that think they're content creators that are just glorified personal trainers that like you know i don't know like there's a that's a tough one i guess that's an awful lot it sounds really good oh jesus you uh what was the how was it worded again i'll give you your druthers here keith and i'll tell you i have no clue what you're talking about. Never watched any of them.

If it's not Celtic Warrior workouts, I've never watched a single YouTube fitness thing in my life, which is also running with the joke that I have no clue who anybody is, and that's why. I was literally just watching Adrian and Brandon earlier today. That was the best video ever. That's why this made the list, was they mentioned you in Brandon's video. Yeah, they did. So this had to make the list so yeah uh i why consume a shit ton of uh more like home gym ish fitnessy stuff more than like i'm not i don't necessarily watch a lot of youtube videos of someone to tell me how to work out like i don't necessarily need that or want that at this point to me it's more i'm enamored by eighty thousand dollar old gym show me more of that uh so yeah smash i guess but only if it's

the captain yeah so conspicuous consumption youtube you're into money laundering youtube got it yeah yeah it's not body break i'm not watching it i think we've already established that all back so our last smasher pass topic all right smasher pass nine foot ceilings that'd be i'm sorry that'd be so awesome i would smash that in a heartbeat i would oh fuck oh you set me up fucker oh whatever they yeah i was waiting i was just like i'm not saying nothing you got me on squats i had to get that's true i'm i'm i'm at like i think i'm just a i'm like a seven ish be like seven and seven foot one inch or something like that so yeah i would i would kill for a nine foot ceiling even if it but yeah not if it came to the extent of having a garage that sloped at a 15-degree angle and I had to shim everything up or put stuff certain ways to accommodate the drainage.

I'm going to say pass because I am only like five foot four. So who the fuck needs that? Fair enough. Just stack 25s so that the bar doesn't hit the ceiling like it's easy well the good news is you guys passed smash or pass um you were successful we nailed it um so lastly i need to leave you with a a good old fuck mary kill all right and of course uh this is going to be fuck mary kill squat bench deadlift uh you know interestingly steen asked me to ask you this and i removed it

oh okay well yeah so that's fine no let's go let's bring it on around down so i'm gonna f bench mary squat kill deadlift i'm pretty sure we actually played this in the pilot but i can't remember i thought we did maybe it was yeah i'm pretty sure we actually played this in the pilot but i can't remember i thought we did maybe it was yeah i'm curious if my answer changed i'm gonna listen but i don't remember i'm gonna fuck then marry deadlifts okay and then kill bench and squat if i never had to do those again it would be fine um but i yeah i'm a deadlifter through and through i am the meme yeah no that's fair like i've got the over 400 pound deadlift but can't bench my body weight for reps i can but like the joke is do you have a long wingspan like are you like said like do you have like

have you seen him deadlift yes no i understand i get that joey's best lift is a deadlift i'm not saying that i just he's like the slender man he's got like nine foot arms or something because you did you did mention well a lot of his videos are like i don't know it's like from the back or well no those are the ones that deadlifts are only from the front when i film is it okay i guess i'm not paying attention to where your bar locks out at but you did mention that it's closer to your tattoo which is like lower quad so you're you're locking out that that pretty low then yeah i'm locking out just above my knees yeah i don't think i'm like must be nice i think i'm like mid quad i'm definitely not like dick region people that are arms are so short like when you like see the videos of like the bar

literally like goes over their penis like that's crazy like that's so much more range of motion. My lockout is up near my dick. That's how the dick jokes happen. But the scraping happens on the thighs. I gotcha. That's where the scraping happens is right above the knees. My arms are short enough that I can't Jefferson. I've tried. Not with that attitude.

Get some figure eights. Yeah, do some more stretching. Why, is it gonna like hang under my arms or like so jefferson off blocks if you have to just for the sake of jefferson like for a video for like because the problem is the problem isn't getting it off the ground the problem is lockout i can't lock it out that's that harkens back to earlier when i mentioned that i thought i saw something in the discord that might have alluded to an upcoming something or other. One of the hosts did comment on the Jefferson shirt, and it might have just been that it might be coming back in stock.

But I think it might have been more that there might be a Jefferson deadlift contest or something coming back, possibly, because one of the hosts with the beard that, you know is sometimes a uh a record guy definitely hinted at something about the jefferson shirt but wore jefferson in general so that might be something to keep an eye out on but yeah that's that's crazy you can't lock out of jefferson i'd have to like i don't know i'm trying to like logically think of what i would need like what impediment is just your arms are kind of a little too short-ish. I have a really long torso. Okay. I remember the second time I Jeffersoned, and it was over three plates. And I was utterly shocked at how much pack work a Jefferson deadlift takes. I was not prepared for how sore and awful my chest was for like two days after doing a Jefferson.

Because you're like, yeah yeah i can deadlift four plates i should be able to jefferson three and the answer is no you fucking cannot it hurts so much in different like muscles and regions that you're like this isn't supposed to hurt there but yeah maybe i'm in for a jefferson deadlift competition uh i saw i tagged my sonomics and speaking of kettlebells hey call back uh in a jefferson deadlift kettlebell video where these people were doing straddle deadlifts with kettlebells and calling them jeffersons and i just tagged my sonomics and said the hell did i just watch and said, the hell did I just watch? Because like, what the hell did I just watch? These are not Jefferson deadlifts.

There's no barbell involved, but if you got to, you got it. Right. That's how Spoon will have to get his first Jefferson is off some of his kettlebells. Yeah, I guess it'll only be 140 pounds. Cause the biggest pair I have is seventies. I think I've Jefferson three15 and it was like not easy at all when i think that was i think 365 is what i did and it just fucking sucks like i don't want

to do it again don't don't to the hosts don't make me do it again that hurts so much if that does come up i just god i just hope it's not during prep because I'm not trying to throw in an odd lift during pre-prep. Right. I am. Apparently. Well, guys, that was what strong man is. All strong man is is weird lifts. Yeah.

Yeah, like Zerker. Do a Zerker squat. The hell? Why not? Why not? Why not? It doesn't make any personal sense unless you're a personal support worker it doesn't make any logistical sense but like just do it just throw the weight in your arms and go whenever you exercise is a lower back exercise if you do it wrong enough so

and i do and i do that was a good podcast guys guys you want to bring this on home i um just want to remind everybody that this is the unpaid and underrated you can find our website at unpaid intern podcast.com uh you can follow us on instagram at unpaid and underrated podcast um guys we for we didn't get to be chat again sorry big matt mostly squat videos like we really wanted to get to Big Matt again. Sorry, Big Matt. Mostly squat videos. We really wanted to get to you again this week. We'll give you a call. I promise it's coming up.

But next week, stay by that phone. We're going to get to you there. We knew he was rebuilding that Kohler toilet that he really loves working on every couple years. So he was at Home Depot doing that. So once we saw that, we just decided we couldn't have him on this week. He is a Home Depot man. He is a home depot man i i am big joey you can find me at at joey underscore molesco m-l-e-c-z-k-o um where can we find you guys i am big keith you can find me on instagram at keith honeycutt 73 follow my gym at the no wine cellar and You can find me on Instagram at KeithHoneycutt73. Follow my gym at TheNoWineCellar. And you can find me on Instagram

as well. It's The underscore Spoonerman. And yeah, I mostly just do training shit, but every now and again, there's a meme or life stuff. I want to give a big shout out, of course, this week to

Big Steen for helping us out with making Big Rich laugh. I want to give a shout out to Rich's son, is it? Happy birthday tomorrow. My own son, whose birthday is on Saturday. Happy birthday to him. And of course, please follow us on Instagram and hopefully see you next week. Keith. All right, boys.

We'll see you next Tuesday.