Unpaid And Underrated - 006 : Mofo Guy

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know the elusive “Big Mofo Guy”. Together they dive right into Joey and Mofo's extensive music career, Kieth's internet trouble and feet pics. You won't want to miss this episode. You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Mofo Guy.

welcome back everyone to episode one of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by the massonomics discord crew for the massonomics discord crew unless you're listening and you're not in the crew in which case what are you waiting for? There's only three spots left. As usual, except for last week, so as kind of usual, I am Big Joey. And I am, who has been on every episode, Big Keith. And I'm that

big mofo guy. That big mofo guy. The, the, the, uh, the secret identity. So a lot of you are just listening and can't see, but I will tell you, this is a handsome man. This is a handsome stranger that we are all almost meeting for the first time right now. So let's dive right in for the first time. The first dive right in. the first time the first dive right in uh gentlemen what are you wearing i got a nice care package yesterday and i got the beefy tees so i am wearing the powder

blue baby blue whatever you want to call it uh massonomics working hard beefy t-shirt and as someone who uh i'm i'm always one to criticize when my shirts don't fit when it's really i'm the problem not the shirt But this extra large fits a fat guy perfectly So if you're normally swimming in an extra large You'll be really, really swimming in this But if you're busting the seams in an extra large This beefy tee will be a perfect fit for you

This damn shirt wasn't made right How about you, mofo? So I'm wearing the neon lift shirt uh this is actually the first shirt ever bought from asonomics i went back in my emails last night to see if i could figure out which shirt was the first one and made sure i wore it very nice i don't have that one and i regret not having that one i am wearing the um I want to say the 300th episode. Oh, yeah. The anniversary shirt. Yeah, I think that was 300. I've got the flag somewhere.

Yeah, I'm looking at it. One of my buddies who was over this weekend is also a supporting member always chuckles at the flag just because I like how embellished, I guess, if you will, the host are. He always gets a kick out of the bulging muscles. I was looking at that today and

Tanner's aggressively holding a microphone. Which he's never done anything aggressive in his life. It's the most passive man. It's just like the animated cartoon. It's pretty good. I enjoy it. He's just a big teddy bear.

So what are you guys drinking tonight? What are you drinking over there, Mofo? So I'm not as big of a spicy water fan as a lot of the other guys, so I got a sparkling ice classic lemonade. So it's about as close to sparkling water as I get,

but it actually tastes what it says it is. Nice. I went fancy and i am drinking the city seltzer berry whip it is boysenberry black currant and vanilla and it is made here in canada it's technically a seltzer i don't i think the difference between a seltzer and sparkling water is the amount of letters i think that's the only difference i can find i don't think that's right i wouldn't sell i think seltzer just tastes like more that just like white carbonation if that's i don't know that's not

really good no that does not mean a thing to me just just like just plain seltzer water tastes horrible whereas flavored sparkling water is good. So I'm digging into the bubbly collection again. I don't think I've had this one before. It's a strawberry bubbly. I don't know that I've had this one, and I'm actually kind of anxious to see what it is. It's delicious. It is pretty good, and it's very strawberry.

So that's one point. I'm a fan. So welcome back, Big Joey. We missed you last week. It was fun. A bit of big thanks to Kevin for filling in for you last week. You went to a baseball game, I think it was, or some last minute kind of thing came up. You got some free tickets or something like that, right?

Yeah, yeah. I won tickets. Awesome. From the place that shall not be named because I technically work for one of the owners. And we just had a brief little, Hey, let's do this little competition.

And I won some tickets. So me and my best friend, Jay went down there, had a few too many 15 Canadian dollar beers. And then took the train home. What's that in US dollars? $400. No, the other way around, right?

So 15 Canadian plus 32 divided by 24. Share the one. I feel like in our lifetimes it has flip-flopped and gone... Has it gone back and forth multiple times, or has it always been? No.

Because it's... There's only ever been once that I'm aware of that we even came on par. Okay. But typically, your dollar is like 80 cents to our dollar kind of thing, or... Yeah. Yeah. I thought so. And the Australian dollar for our two new Australian members is actually way less.

Like, way less. It's kind of crazy actually yeah that'd be weird to like just have a wallet full of and i don't even get it so like is each bill just you have like are there just like ten thousand dollar bills and it's just the way they would do increments would be so confusing are they next door or something no the numbers are just numbers like 100 is still 100. But like if you're in the U.S., that 100 only reflects like 80 cents of your dollar. Right? Like if I have a $100 bill Canadian, it just still says 100. It's just when I go to give it to somebody, it's only worth $80 in the U.S.

Or you just smarten up and bring U.S. dollars when you cross the border. So when you travel to america like do you do you actually it's when so when you plan when you came to the arnold when you're coming to the lift hard lift easy classic in july you basically have to account for that 20 difference like give or take or if i'm bothering to budget so yeah um i did take out some cash the last time because i never want to be without money. But I don't think I ended up using much of the cash because everything is just put on MasterCard, right? Love, pain, and interest. Play Exchange and interest.

But speaking of geography, as we're talking about, I'm a little American and Canadian. I guess here it is again. We can't stop talking about Big Kevin. If everyone saw the post on the main podcast page where they, I believe it was Kevin went through and got a bunch of data from the boys at Masonomics and put together basically a map and a breakdown of how many supporting members are at each location throughout America as well as the country, or at least North America, I think. So that was really cool to see. Did you guys see anything there that kind of surprised you or anything, gave you a little bit of pride?

The 16 out of California. That's pretty cool. And out of those 16, how many do you think you know or have talked to? So I've met Big Garrison. Met him at the Jug AI meetup back in september in costa mesa um so i got to meet him that was actually before i joined the crew so he was kind of like the the tipping point for me when i was considering it uh then there's another guy one of the big davids he's uh also i believe out in orange county so he's not that far from me um so but i mean they're probably running to him at some point.

And then the other one I know of, the other Big David, the British one, I think he's up in Northern California, so it might be a bit before I ever run into him. Well, if you ever make it out to the Lift-Easy Classic in 2024, maybe you'll be able to meet some of those guys. What about you, Joey? Did you see anything? Did any of the Canadian stats jump out at you where you were like,

oh, that's pretty cool to see? Or, like, scans off that's pretty cool to see? Or like Scantz off by himself alone, I think, was kind of amusing? No. Big Keegan did reach out to me. He's from about two hours south of me. And that's about it. I love being into the Mastanomics lore and all of that stuff, but I do kind of get tired

of focusing on on specific things like geography and is ohio midwest like i i hate to tell you guys i don't know i don't care and then talking about it every day it's just kind of like like if i glaze over anything it's chat gpt posts and is ohio midwest posts and then i just kind of like and then just don't skip to the next line but that's just me that's just me um you know i'm with you on that oh good yeah thank you you're mr chad you're literally posting chat gpt you're the miss chat gpt is funny as hell the midwest thing the midwest thing is uh you aren't in the western part of the country just i get the bit the the history behind it but just let it die you're not midwest anymore now you're in the middle east the chat gps though honestly it's just

because i don't want to read a novel on discord so it's not like i'm not like anti-chat i just i see that big long post and i just somebody tldr this i'm not gonna go through all of this i mean i did use it to help me write a performance report so that was nice for yourself yeah i didn't i didn't go word for word but i plugged in what i wanted it spit out some stuff that was like kind of ridiculous, but it kind of just triggered an idea. And I was like, all right, cool. Now I got something.

So at least if you're brainstorming and you can't figure something out, just write a request in there and it'll spit something out that looks like gibberish, but it might help you figure out what you want to do. Nice. It just basically helps with bullet points. That's not a bad way to use it. So closing on. Did that help you when you helped write for the Arnold Netflix documentary?

Or did you use ChatGPT to do that as well? So when I got hit up for the documentary, that was actually pre my awareness of ChatGPT. But I only wrote a little bit, you know bit where it talks a little bit about pumping iron. That's about, I think, eight years pre-birth, but somehow I have some pretty good knowledge on that. I thought you were there. Absolutely. Yeah, I thought you were there.

I'm just on my second life. That makes sense. That makes sense. Speaking of that old Netflix documentary, Keith, you've got something in here that you wanted to chat about that. Just in general, it was if you haven't watched it, watch it. It was it was really, you know, I think it I think if you guys haven't seen it, watch it. It was very enjoyable. I mean, I think everyone that's part of Mastodonomics is somewhat of a meathead and will enjoy watching, you know,

like a three hour documentary to three one hour ish docs on him and you know pretty much from his early years up until present day so uh it wasn't wasn't on par with the last dance but it was better than 75 of the documentaries people are pumping out so definitely uh go check it out i have not i have not i started watching it but the kids started screaming through it uh and i i am actually subscribed to the pump club and i listen when i can it's eight minutes of your day at maximum but there is something about um about arnold telling you about health and fitness that just hits differently than when other people do it i don't know if that's just me but like when he tells me about the benefits of caffeine

versus you know some random stranger i'm like well arnold said it and i kind of just like listen more to him when he says it so i guess it's an authority that my brain gives to arnold so what i i'm not familiar with that is that just like arnold has like a little eight minute podcast thing or something that that just hits every couple days or something no it's monday through friday uh it's an email and a podcast so he usually the podcast is him reading the email okay um but it is just like daily fitness daily health news every monday he gives you your weekly exercises every friday he gives you a goal to hit on the weekend and sometimes they give recipes um but it's mostly him just trying to build a more positive area of of fitness and he it's only about eight minutes

so if you want to listen to it on your way to work it's awesome it's arnie just talking to you about you know the benefits of cardio the benefits of drinking a coffee in the morning how carbs are good for you and and you know why you should do push-ups and things like that that and things of that nature that uh he really coming from him just means more to me than just coming from some guy screaming at me well he does like talking about coming a lot yeah he's always coming he's coming in the gym he's coming in home he's coming always i gotta interject guys this drink is too much it's like i understand they call it berry whipped but this is honestly like drinking whipped cream i was gonna ask is the whipped part because it has like a like a dairy cream flavor to it it's just so overwhelmingly vanilla i I don't like vanilla as a flavor. I might have to move on

to beer soon. I apologize in advance. Well, it wouldn't be a podcast without Joey and his Keats. Oh, no, I don't have Keats today. Oh, Jesus. Wait, I got a special one. A special one. I want him to pop it out.

So, I don't know if anyone else was excited to listen to the live recording last night, as we always do on Wednesdays. But one of the hosts pulled the rug out from under us at about, you know, 730, 8 o'clock. And so someone asked, hey, is there going to be a link to the to the episode tonight? He's like, nope, we recorded a sneaky episode last week. So you're shit out of luck, basically. So that kind of I don't know. I don't know. But everybody else like I really enjoy just sitting there and you know a lot of times i'm

like the last thing i do a lot of nights is just play video games for a couple hours well not a couple hours like an hour at the most and just throw a podcast on and listen to some video games and then go to bed uh so being able to not listen to the podcast on wednesday kind of was depressing a little bit so uh i don't know that was my little tidbit of the uh i don't know i I think if I knew about it in advance, it wouldn't hurt. So it didn't hurt. You know what I mean? But like, it's just, I am a person that does not like change or surprises at all, as everyone should know by now. So like an hour before the podcast was supposed to start, I was like, oh, I guess I'm not going to listen for 45 minutes tonight.

Damn it. Well, they would normally make an event. And when I didn't see the event yeah i just assumed there wasn't going to be a podcast recording i didn't tell me tom isn't tommy in florida like yeah mention that during the recording with uh vintage weights fella he might have he must have well i know i saw his story yeah yeah rob i was actually talking to rob a little bit ago he's a pretty good buddy of mine i found some wooled weights in my basement i've sent you those pictures right the old cement yorks that i have oh there's i

don't i might have seen them in the store but i don't personally send them to me but if they're cement they're not worth a damn thing no i don't i'm not looking for money but like it's kind of cool they're just plastic encased in cement and i've got some weeders yeah those are those are pretty common i've got some blue weeders those are those are pretty common i've got some blue weeders and some pig iron downstairs too that i just kind of found i might try and restore or just leave it sand weights no these ones are these ones are actually iron they're blue iron but when i ended up just starting to lift in the house my dad was like i've got these weights and i was like well that's not enough so i went to go and buy some weights but it turns out i had like a one and a half inch pig iron bar

that no weights in any store fit on so i ended up having to buy an olympic bar i'm calling it i'm moving to booze so i wanted to harken back a little bit to the geography, more or less. One little tidbit on that is so more or less like, let's see. I'm sorry. I'm just rambling here. Supporting members that are basically people that are supporting members that are not in the discord. I actually I didn't think that existed other than a couple of people, but I met one. I ran across someone that actually lives in my hometown that is a supporting member and is not on discord whatsoever and uh he because basically he liked a comment that i made about being in western new york and then i like you know stopped

his profile real quick and i was like oh this kid trains at a gym like five minutes from my house so i was like you know i dm was like hey are you supporting members like yeah i just never never made it over to the discord and i was like okay well that's cool now good to meet you you know come over and train at my place anytime you want i you know he might be coming over this weekend i'm not sure but regardless it's just kind of neat to think that like how many how many supporting members do they have like how many envelopes did uh one of the hosts mail out today of people that aren't actually in the discord like i'm curious if it's like just like 10 or 15 or if there's like 30 50 people that aren't actually in discord i wonder if go ahead let's say they're definitely missing out on perk city by not being in the

discord like that yeah that's that's a lot like buying a buying a really expensive car and then using like the worst kind of gas like you're definitely not utilizing your supporting member you're literally just handing them money every month and then not doing a single thing that comes with that money. It's like walking into McDonald's going, here's 20 bucks, I'll see you. Yeah, the host with the hair is definitely okay with that though. Oh, for sure.

They don't have any problem. I was doing the math just on on on who is in the discord and let's just say they're at the minimum like that's a mortgage payment a month in just supporting supporting member dues i guess we would call that like you like dues it's a lot of money some places it is in some places it is yeah definitely not not not not in California I'd imagine unless you're living a shack yeah

or you bought your house over 10 years ago well do we want to do a little follow up and rate of last week's episode is that something we want to do a little uh follow-up and rate of last week's episode is that something we want to do is that we want to talk about uh rob at pgh and how everyone's feelings about that episode it's kind of it's been a newer segment so we're kind of as as listeners uh you're like you know as you're listening you're like why these guys really don't know what they're doing and like we're kind of figuring out as we go it's like some segments come and go some seconds to stick around. We're just,

uh, we're kind of druthering it out on the spot. Sure. It sounds good to me. Um, all right. Uh, big mofo.

Do you want to go first? Absolutely. So when I was first listening to it, I was like, man, this one sounds pretty good. I don't know what to rate it though. Like, I mean, everything's pretty solid. If I compare it to some of the previous episodes, you know,

every episode so far has been about a five. I think I'd definitely rate this one a five JD power associates awards, mainly because a big Rob is a air force vet and, you know, me being air force. So he's got, he holds a special place in my heart. Plus the boys and you know me being air force so he's got he holds a special place in my heart plus the boys you know they do a great job every time so absolutely solid five jd jd power associates i will agree i will agree uh except when you said that that um you know if you look at the other ones uh some of those were fives i would argue that those were also fives um i do want to say that i like i had

one moment when they were talking about the hip leg blaster and since i don't watch i only listen on my way to work and i kind of could just envision when rob goes you know what talk about yourself i'm putting it on to me that's one of the funniest lines I think I've heard in a long time. So I'm definitely going to have to say with all of that and all of my druthers, I'm going to actually go a little lower than I would normally go on this one. I'm going to go with the five JD power associates. Solid score, given a good average so far. So I always I think I made a comment about how one of the hosts keeps on getting all my buddies on the podcast because i've just i've been lucky enough to be actually somewhat friends

with like five or six guys i've been on the last year and a half and uh rob's a pretty good buddy might have met him at home gym con uh this spring and uh kind of hit it off we knew each other before that regardless uh i always enjoyed listening to anyone talk about vintage weights or weight all you know, vintage anything. So he even got a little jab at me because Rob did come up to my hometown and buy a pair of deep dish plates in my backyard. You know, obviously, you know, he drove six, five hours to come get him instead of just saying, I'll just send Keith a link because he can go buy him. You know, he clearly wanted a pair, which I don't blame him because it was his first pair that he got. So I was debating on, you know, knocking some points off for that. But solely because I selfishly heard my name on the podcast a couple of times.

We'll go ahead and give it five J.D. Powers. Now, just before we jump into that next section, I had a little thing written here. Now, Big Aaron, you actually were involved in the invention of the J.D. Power Associates. Can you tell me a little bit about that? a new rating system but man jd power they got a lot of money they got some really good lawyers and you know we we just had to give in and you know just like with the boys with uh removing some of the particular logos we had to do the same thing and just concede that's fair that's fair i think my source on that is uh it was drunk so that i could see how that story got mixed up there but um but I appreciate some insight into that. It's really cool learning all of this stuff about you.

Oh, can I call you Aaron? Is that okay? Sorry, Big Aaron. I wouldn't call you just Aaron. That would be uncouth. I am a little larger than average. I think I'm your first guest that's above the six foot mark. Go ahead and call me Big.

Six foot a million based on the camera angle you chose today. Well, what do you think, Keith? You want to dive right in and get our guest on the horn? Yeah. Let's see if Big Aaron Mofo will answer the call. Let's get him. All right. Big Aaron, is that you?

Yes. Yes. I hear that. You hear that you? Yes. Yes, hear that? You hear that ringing? Oh, hey, guys. What's going on? Hey, welcome. Welcome to the podcast, Big Aaron. How are you doing, buddy?

I'm going to go ahead and fire off one of my – I always seem to – I definitely forgot this question with Spoon, so I was going to go ahead and get it out of the way. So most important thing for me is what brought you to Massanomics? Tell me your Massanomics origin story, how many episodes you listened to, why are you a supported member? Just give me all the good deets about you and Massanomics. Yeah, so I think I discovered Massanomics probably back in, like, 2016, just seeing their, like, lifting lifting legends posts their versus posts and

their rookie cards um and just because of some of the powerlessness i was following at the time like they were you know posting their versus cards their versus and their rookie cards um so i started following them i was like oh these guys got some funny stuff um and i actually didn't know about the podcast initially um i remember checking out their website, looking at the clothes. Um, I wasn't too into the beer parody thing at the beginning. So I didn't buy anything right away. Um, and then later on, a couple of years later, I was looking for some more podcasts and I'm like, Oh, let me, let me check out these massonomics boys. I think that was like late 2019.

Um, and I'm a little OCD. So I started from episode one and I did not listen to a new episode until I was completely done with the back catalog, which took me about, I think, a year and some change because I only listen to and from work. So I think early 2021, I was finally caught up and I'm like, oh, where's this? Where's that one guy? Like, there's a big guy that that moved out of the country and then like they had another big guy on there talking that happened to be related to one of the other hosts and like like what's going on there's so many changes going on and like i don't know what's going on it doesn't jive with uh what they got going on in their um their instagram but yeah and then um kept looking at their clothes and was like oh the designs are

changing a little bit it looks like there's a little bit of growth here um i'd listen to these guys quite a bit they're you know providing me quite a bit of humor um you know helping me on my ride to work you know teaching me how to get strong stay strong and use my strength so i was like i'm gonna throw you guys some money so i'm happy to hop on one summer and it's actually two years ago roughly to the day now um that i bought you know this neon lift shirt and the black massonomics icon shirt um and just the more i've listened the more i've loved you guys um one of the hosts uh the the one that has the hair and the beard um he reminds me a lot of one of my childhood friends too so like when I'm listening to him, I actually hear my,

my buddy who I'm still friends with. I've known the guy for over 30 years now. And so I kind of hear him in a little bit. It's like, just makes the boys more relatable. So they'd be, you know, some guys who just have some beers with and just have some laughs.

So what I got, you know, that covers about everything right there. I haven't, I don't really miss an episode. I listen every week. Usually either Monday or Tuesday on my drive to work, depending on, you know, when I get into it. I'll even stop another podcast that doesn't exist just so I can listen to that episode and then go back to that non-existent podcast. Now, I want to point out something here here that's in the notes but is pretty should be well known you also have probably been the most um supportive of this podcast

i believe that you were there from the day we started planning you were on the first planning call and you have been listening to every podcast and you sometimes join live uh when we don't really put the link out there for people to do that um so just briefly like how are you feeling about the the growth of the unpaid and underrated crew cast now i gotta say from day one um you guys have been doing a pretty good job you know the flow is starting to kick in um you know you guys banter is pretty good you guys you know you guys banter is pretty good you guys mesh well really together i have missed one um i did miss a big rich big spoons episode because i had to get a haircut you know being there for it's gonna have my hair a certain way but um other than that i try to pop in for a

few minutes just to see what's going on but i do try not to listen the whole thing because i want to hear it once it's actually coming out and edited. Plus, I also don't want to make you guys uncomfortable like you're being watched or anything like that. Try not to mess with the flow, but also catch it. Make sure you guys know that you got support out there. I think you guys are doing a great job. The longer you guys can go, it'll be

great. Hopefully, we run through the we'll call the first group of people. Maybe the founding members. Once you run through those those guys on guests it'd be nice to get some of the other folks in the the discord crew um definitely interested in hearing um especially from the chocolate chips i love hearing like the perspective from a lot of women that are you know in a strength and stuff like that because you know it's not it's well it's more common now it hasn't always been like i've been

in the gym for over 20 years and you know 20 years ago when you saw a woman in the gym like she wasn't trying to deadlift she was just trying to you know be a little cardio bunny and now these girls are getting after it and lifting bigger weights than a lot of the boys are so yeah it's been great so far stay tuned you're in luck awesome obviously not to spoil anything uh um but in the works uh but you mentioned now this is the second time you've mentioned the air force yeah and you also mentioned that you have a darth vader mask but you left at work so what's it like building the Death Star for the third time? You know, we told the Emperor after the second time,

we shouldn't do this again. And maybe when we rebuild it, not to build it 100% identical with the same flaws, but, you know, the way the Sith are, like, they just, they're set. You know, this is the way the dark side goes we're gonna win eventually you know it's all about you know it's just like with the massonomics podcast it's all about longevity how long you stay in because if you stay around long enough you keep doing it long enough eventually you're gonna win so i think the emperor feels

that way i don't know he's been killed off of times. So we'll see what happens with this third round of the Death Star. Well, they say that the sure sign of insanity is changing the way you do things. Exactly. Yeah. So speaking of getting killed off, we we almost lost you in 2020. I heard you were in a pretty serious car crash that you had to have some serious rehab to recover from. Is there anything about that you want to chat about? Yeah. So, you know, it, it, it's funny cause it like aligns up really well with like the shutdowns from

COVID and whatnot. But you know, the gains are going good at that time. I'd actually just finished my second training cycle with the original juggernaut AI hitting some, you know, my finally got my bench back over 315 at the time. I hit 315 for a double. I hit a 465 squat and my deadlift doesn't go anywhere, but I was finally able to break 500 pounds off of a one-inch block. Can't pull it from the ground, but at least I got it from a one-inch block. And I was stoked.

I lost a little bit of weight just to kind of like slim down because I was trying to, you know, bulk up up i stopped stepping on the scale when i hit 250 because i didn't want to see it anymore um trimmed down and then i was just driving home one night from work um and it was raining just happened to take the wife's truck to work that night too uh and i got t-boned by a dude that was like drunk and hopped up on who knows what um his if you guys want i can show you guys pictures one day but this dude's truck this driver's side he had no tires on the wheels um but it spun me around rocked my head real good my left shoulder was a little jacked up my left hip was messed up nothing broken um because i'm kind of solid so you know things

don't break as easily when you're a've got a little bit more mass on you. But it did mess with my head a little bit. I suffer from migraines now. Now my memory is not as great as it used to be. I would say I'm still smarter than the average bear, but that gap isn't as big as it used to be. But it is what it is. It's taken me a few years to kind of start getting comfortable lifting heavy again um i was actually pretty jazzed with um with the garage gym competition lifts just because i you know was able to break a thousand pound total um and and actually i just

did a rp 10 lifts a couple days ago so you I hit three 65 for four on deadlift with double overhand, no hook, no, no chalk. Um, I had three Oh five last night for five on squats, which felt good. And then I hit a two 55 on bench for five. Um, so it felt pretty solid. So I'm not, I'm definitely not back to where I used to be, but like, at least, these things are coming back. So. Now why no chalk? Was that more of a challenge to yourself? Do you not like the chalk?

I was wondering that too. I was actually wondering that too. Like if you had said no straps, no hook grip, something like that. Like I get that, but like, I don't look at it as an accomplishment.

I don't, I don't know. Like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I had to cut you off. Like why,

why no chalk? Um, honestly, because I'm lazy. Uh, I don't feel like cleaning myself off afterwards. And it is part of, part of it is a challenge. Um, you don't feel like cleaning myself off afterwards and it is part of part of it is a challenge um you don't just like the chalk off like is that weird

am i the only weird one i mean i don't have a great sense of taste so i probably wouldn't taste what it is anyways but just tastes like yeah exactly i like i like being able to like when i've never pulled like with a mixed grip. I'm always done double overhand either with straps or with hook grip. And I actually haven't pulled hook grip in about two years now. But I was able to usually get a couple reps at 405 with double overhand, no hook. I was using chalk at the time. But, like, I'm like, my my my goal is like let me see how strong

i can get my grip so let me see how much weight i can hold um like i'm off of like uh blocks where the bar is right above your knee i was pulling like um i think mid 500s with double overhand um no hook grip so like my grip's pretty good just unfortunately the rest of my body doesn't seem to like pull the deadlift correctly to you know get more weight on that because based on my size i should be lifting a lot more than i do but it is what it is did you get your did you get your grip from um when you were a kid hunting crawfish and eating them raw i heard that that was a thing that you had in your childhood uh so it wasn't crawfish um it was actually um uh man why am i drawing like

what those things are called you know those those crab like things that are like the perfect um creature that have stayed the same for millions of years we use their blood their blue blood for medicine some of that i don't know the name but no i think that's a dinosaur um they are dinosaurs man it looks just like a freaking someone in the discord is going to pop in like after this episode like how does he not know what that is but yeah the shell of those things like just really hard to crack so like about like six seven years old sitting there just like trying to like force them horseshoe the horseshoe crab yeah horseshoe crab yeah yeah those suckers man they're delicious they are also not platypus

no they're not and they're not dinosaurs even though they've been around for a long time that was a good callback i'm sorry keith i cut you off there no you're good segue into that random fact the fact that i knew about big aaron yeah we had a lot of uh contributing uh supporting members give us a lot of data that they knew about aaron so we really appreciate you guys reaching out to all that. So speaking of a bad memory, Aaron, I want to ask another question here. So I heard that you survived a really serious car crash in 2020. Yeah, so it's kind of funny.

It was right around the time of the COVID shutdown. He's messing with your CRS. That was supposed to be. I don't know if that was funny or not Did we cover that already? Yeah, yeah I don't know if you know this but Big Aaron's got a little CRS there, can't remember Can't remember shit

You know, he did it a few times and also being a little old, memory starts going I'm glad we can actually I'm glad we can cuss on this episode again because last week was rough like i jeff kind of asked us to try to keep a pg-13 i i don't think we swore at all if we did it might have been like shit or damn here and there so not having that uh restrictor on us is kind of nice well not having me honestly helps because i swear a lot yeah that might have

been the reason why but like i would say like listening through it it wasn't noticeable though you guys might have noticed it but it wasn't noticeable like it didn't it didn't like take anything away from it good good to know that it's not necessarily doesn't add or or detract it just uh gets jenner a fucking case um our great our great massonomics discord mom has said that it doesn't bother her as much as she had originally portrayed i told her i would stop ragging on her for it on on the podcast um and hopefully we'll see her on the podcast one day and she can tell us all about it. Yeah, I think we'll have to do a 5 p.m. recording

because she's got to get to bed, but we'll definitely knock that out. No problem. Now I got a fact on here that I really like. Normally I made it a point that I was going to drop a Jim Carrey reference in every episode, but it looks like I'm not going to need to

because we have the fact that you are indeed a Jim Carrey fan. So I would like to know what is your favorite jim carrey movie oh man um that's hard to pick i agree like because i grew up on you know watching like i watched the mask like obsessively as a kid watched ace ventura several times um dumb and dumber um even though you know the new one that they did was still pretty good uh i honestly though i think it would probably have to be ace ventura the first one you know ace ventura back detective um strictly because the beginning of that movie um because i remember being like i think when I came on the early 90s,

I was probably like seven or eight years old when that thing came out. And watching this movie, he saves a dog, he delivers it to that woman. You know, she's dressed scantily and whatnot. And she's like, oh, I don't have any money. How can I repay you? He's like, gee, let me think. And then, you know, she does her thing. He's moving all over the place. And then he's like wow i got a lot of p and you're i'm just sitting there like

like that's that's disgusting why is she why is she doing that and i you know i'll admit like i was probably like 32 33 when i realized what was going on like i'm like i was like how how have i not realized that like i you know i'm not not no stranger to you know uh certain activities so like why did i not pick up on that and and so i mean we mostly discussed his comedies how did you feel about his foray into serious acting and i will kind of um not not relegate but i'll kind of make a quick comparison a lot of the people kind of dismissed jim carrey's serious abilities because he started in comedy but nobody dismisses johnny depp's comedy because he started in serious movies and i think that if you look at the trajectory and reverse them those two kind of did that. But Johnny Depp was always able to maintain his credibility. Whereas when Jim Carrey

did The Truman Show, everybody said, no, no, no, that's a serious movie. He can't do that. But it turned out to be incredible. So did Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. You know, I think that's one of the first movies that ever make me cry like a child. So like, what did you think about that kind of foray? And ever make me cry like a child um so like what did you think about that kind of foray and are you a fan of his at all i mean comedy so i i you know seen the truman show which i still consider truman show a comedy even though the portrayal is a little bit more but it's more just about like the the overall theme of the movie and less like with the one-liners and things like that um i mean uh eternal sunshine spotless mind i've only seen a couple times so my memory on that's a little

foggy i do remember it being a good movie um i definitely say no complaints about that like i also think he was freaking hilarious in cable guy even though that's not a fun a serious movie but it is a different portrayal of his comedy. I forgot all about that one. And he was also in what? The number 23, right? Yeah, number 23. Yes. That was a very psychological thriller.

Yeah, and I love psychological thrillers. So that was another good one. What's the movie called? Oh,uce almighty is another funny one yes you know like even like yeah like i i mean literally everything he's done has been gold because it's him like he's just he's very funny he can the way he can manipulate his face and his voice to like sound like other people and look like other people but you just can't ignore that kind of talent i have one caveat and i would say it is one thing that i forgot he did and i probably wouldn't care if he never did the riddler i mean i think that's because that was the first um one with val kilmer well i mean that so the only

one with that but i mean like the when they redid them is more yeah he was he was the first one after keaton it's when joel schumacher took over the franchise so uh you had your um tim burton do the first and second yeah and then within the same universe, Joel Schumacher took over, and he did the following two. Yeah. And George Clooney actually still brags to this day that he was the one that ruined the Batman franchise. So good on him. But I don't think that if I had to list my favorite Jim Carrey movies, that that would be anywhere near the top. As much as I am a Batman fan, i think that anybody could have done what he

did in that movie but that's not a jim carrey movie he's just a supporting actor in that movie yeah he was like the fifth child guy on the film yeah not his fault mike i agree i just wanted to put it out there that unless he's listening in which case jim we love you big it's Big Jim, Kerry. Big Jim. If you're listening to this, it is Big Jim Kerry. Do we have any Big Jims? I think Jim's a very popular name in the Discord.

I don't know that we have too many because they're jumping out at me. Well, there's the Mathonomics Jim. It's pretty big. Nice. Love it. So, Aaron, tell us about your your passion for playing bass. Is that something you were you in a band and all kinds of stuff like that? We have limited information on you. So I'm just regurgitating some stuff I found on the Internet.

So, you know, when you Google Big Mofo, it just says bass. So explain that to me. Actually, if you if you are strategic enough with your searches, you can actually find my old band. So back in the early 2000s, when I was a later senior in high school, I think junior or senior in high school, I played music growing up as a kid. I played the saxophone for several years and then transitioned out of that because I didn't like being in a school band.

And then I ended up picking up the bass, partially because I had buddies that played the guitar. So I was like, oh, you know, I'm not going to play the same thing that they play. And then first couple of days that I had it, I ended up learning the Pennywise song, Bro Him. And I was like, oh, I think I might have a knack for this. Started playing, ended up in an auto shop class with this guy that was a guitarist trying to start a band. bro him and i was like oh i think i might have a knack for this um started playing in the uh you know auto shop class with this guy that's a guitarist trying to start a band so we started

things up um and he you know found found us a drummer found a singer um and we actually coined a term back then called uh opera core because of the style of singing that our singer did he was uh like in the choir at school so like he had a very large range um but then you know scream and yell like crazy and whatnot it's like when hardcore was kind of becoming a thing and like screamo was becoming a thing um played several places throughout southern california um the highlight of that career was definitely playing a little place called the knitting factory in Hollywood. You know,

probably one of the best memories I have from that. We didn't. Is that, is that where you showed Lemmy how to improve his game? No, actually it wasn't Lemmy. It was Les Claypool. Got it.

Got it. Les Claypool was, was trying to figure out what to do with Tommy the Cat. I kind of showed him a few things and figured it out. Funny you brought that up. That's actually in there later too.

That's good work. Yeah, it was a good time. Just differences, opinions that didn't go very far uh or didn't go further you know we did get to a point where we were getting paid for it so that was pretty cool but you know things happen and i mean the overall trajectory of my life wouldn't be worth that now and i i have absolutely no complaints so just fun memories now i actually used to play bass and in a band um sang in the band but never played bass in the band uh so because bass to me has always been uh one of the more interesting

and underrated aspects being a tool fan uh who is heavily they are just heavily bass driven and the whole joke goes go ahead and hum a guitar part from a Tool song, and you're guaranteed to hum a bass part. So with that said, who is one of your favorite bassists? Oh, by far Les Claypool. He is a god on the bass. I know Victor Wooten is probably more technically a better player like but less claypool just with the range of what he has done and the fact that metallica told him we cannot let you join the band because you are too good like come on like he did now he ended up doing a song with them yes yeah he ended up it

was that tuesday's gone i don't remember which one it was i it was on the garage inc it was on garage inc for sure i'm also a gigantic les claypool fan like totally um so i i'll give you that one and one guy i've always really huge fan of his but how do you feel about mud vein oh rhino for mud vein is amazing because he's got that bonky bonk sound right the annoying bonky bonk sound but he does it for metal like in such a good fun interesting way one of the only songs i ever learned to play was actually that intro to dig. Yeah.

I was able to do dig. I tried learning DMV by Primus, but it was too technical for me. I was able to get my, my name is mud. Wow. You know, obviously I helped Lex Claypool with, with Tommy the cat. So I was able to pull that one off. wow you know obviously i helped lex claypool with with tom and the cat so i was able to pull that one off um like my like i i had a a very eclectic style of playing like i refused to use a pick

because i felt like unless you were the bass player from rancid like picture for losers um it but like so and i learned how to to play slap bass just because i knew what it sounded like but i didn't know what it looked like and so i was playing for a couple years and i ended up uh meeting up with um my so my best friend's girlfriend at the time her dad was a jazz bassist and he'd been playing for like 40 years and so i was jamming with him and he's like you do everything wrong but it sounds good he's like i don't know how to do it yeah he's like he's like he's like your your technique is is wrong like he's like what did you learn all this i was like everything was from sound like i would just listen to songs and i'd start playing them um and then i got bored playing other people's songs and so i'd actually pop my cassette tape

into my recorder and i'd hit record and i'd just play for hours on end i just like had these like wild jam sessions that would go anywhere from like punk to like sounding similar like what tool would put out so it was a lot of fun i don't play anymore just because um there was a little bit of um uh i didn't play for a few years just because of what went down with the band i was a little upset with that um but then um when me and my wife first moved in together several years ago uh someone had broke into our house when we were moving out and they stole my bass out of there and i just never replaced it i've been meaning to like especially hearing like some of the guys talking in the discord talk about playing music i'm like i really got to get back into it it's been like 15 years since i've touched one you never really lose your ear though right like i haven't i haven't done anything but

karaoke in 20 years i haven't sang an original song since i was like 17 but you never lose your ear for that like i really like that i wonder how he does that right you hear that specific growl or that or that scream or that song you're just like i wonder how he does that. You hear that specific growl or that scream or that song and you're just like, I wonder how they do that. I'm sorry. It's a bit of a tangent. Keith, I know your internet was a little crazy there. I kind of did it on purpose to give you time to sort that out.

Yeah, I've never... I don't know anything about bass. I don't know. I'm not a musician so that's cool you guys found something to jive over, if you will. know that's uh i'm not a musician so that's cool you guys find a found a uh a something they you know something to to jive over if you will yeah robert johilo um so he currently plays in metallica but i would have heard him first in black label society he finger picks uh battery yeah that's and when you said he doesn't like you don't use a pick

that's insane and if you watch him his fingers look like an octopus because he's finger picking at just what normally people would base or would would use a pick for and that just blows my mind well i mean and i and sorry keith to to just go on a little bit more. So if anybody in the Discord, look up Victor Wooten. And he shows techniques where, like, you obviously are not going to see this, but he has the longest fingers ever. I got big hands. But he strums down with all four fingers, slaps, picks up with his thumb, and then picks all down with all four fingers slaps picks up with his thumb and then picks all up with all four fingers and he does this interesting and it's wild and like i that's

another technique i just couldn't pick up on but like it's just some of these guys are crazy out there couldn't pick up on it that's funny so let's uh we's get off the base if you guys are cool. So I got one. Where did the big... I know you try to keep most of your anonymity. There's a word there that I can't figure out. The platypus sucked it out of my brain.

But mofo. Big mofo. Is there a story there that you want to get into? I know you said something about, is it something band related? Or you said if we did enough of a deep dive on Google, we could figure that out. Yeah, so that also is related to the band. There was, so I won't say my last name, but it's partially related to my last name. And some of you guys might've seen like my YouTube link. You'll see a part of my last name in there.

But so the mofo part is a, it's a combination. It's like, it's so my, the, the nickname is mofo Fernando. Fernando is not my last name. So don't go Googling that.

But so it's mofo. Fernando is a nickname that i got from my drummer and basically i did what every you know 18 19 year old does when they get a girlfriend and disappear um and so i didn't show up to practices i didn't show my face around for a while like for a couple months and then all of a sudden i go to a party with uh with my my bandmates and i walk in and my drummer hadn't seen me for like two three months and he's just like motherfucking fernando and i'm like what's up and then you know from then on he started calling me that he actually made me a myspace account with that name without me without me knowing about it and then like

and so like that just kind of grew from there so people just started calling me that and then you know i just i carried it on i've always thought it's funny and like it's just it derives from me just disappearing which i do have a tendency to do like uh that one of the things with um some of the people probably know you know withD and whatnot, there's an issue with object permanence. Sometimes when you don't see something for a while, you forget it exists. I have a tendency to do that. Good to know. It's nothing motorcycle related as one of the hosts might have implied it to be.

He did say big moto guy. Like I was, I've never been in a motocross. Motorcycles scare me because I've seen too many people wreck on them. So yeah, not into the motos. What about dudes? Are you into dudes? And is it a gender fluid term? That's a little little

you guys might someone i was not that wasn't a jab that was a there was there was an underlying story there you guys can can get into if you want that yeah that was me uh i was i was hoping you weren't gonna bring this one up because no it's it's a little more political than i like to get sometimes um but i guess do you want to explain what happened and why i was such a silly goose for no reason do i i don't know i'm i'm you know there goes that crs i might not even remember what i got you brother so i guess um you had said in passing that you call everybody dude. And you said dude is a gender neutral term. And I said, well, if that's true, do you fuck a lot of dudes?

And the reason I do that is because it really tests how gender neutral you think that phrase is. Because a lot of the times when a guy says something like, oh, dude's a gender neutral term, I go, yeah, fuck a lot of dudes. And you can immediately see them go, no. And then you kind of go, yeah, it's not that neutral, is it? For no other reason than just like bugging people. Oh, yeah. No, you went with it and it was flawless yeah i'm here for it like i mean i call my wife dude all the time and she calls me dude like um well she does it like a little facetiously because my son's just doing a lot too yeah but like i man dude i'm in California. Like, we're okay with everything, man.

Yeah. I know. There's no hate here. I just like to tease people sometimes and kind of when they say something, just go, all right, I'm going to test you on that a little bit. Oh, I steer into the skin every time. Yeah. Good. That's fantastic.

Keith, what is our next segment? I am lost here. I think it's time for Joey's silly question of the week, because this is always one of my second favorite, probably. So I do enjoy when the guest turns around and asks us some stuff. But the silly question has been a hit. I think it's been the talk of the Discord for the most part. It's definitely one of the – when there's banter and stuff like i feel that most people kind of because everyone likes to answer questions so that that's why we that's why we like the last segment because people ask us stuff so i think people in the discord get a kind of be like oh

the silly question how would i answer that and also let's uh do you have one lined up this week and well actually first do you want to answer mine from last week or have any rate how silly mine was? I did think of yours and the answer to your if you could eat anything that was neutral. Right. What would it be? See, my problem is I don't count macros and calories and if i want a beer i'll drink a beer like i'm not on a diet i eat and that's my diet right because i'm not here to look any certain way so like i find it hard to answer that but i think that if there was something

that i could eat all the time with no negative um negative benefits, negative consequences, it would be chicken wings. I would eat chicken wings one meal a day every day for the rest of my life if I didn't think it would kill me. So that's a good question. That's a good answer because it actually allows us to steal one more segment from the other podcast. Drums or flats? Both. I would get bored eating one of the either.

So I'm drum all the way i hate flats i think they're weird i hate like i hate that there's extra bone i don't know there's something that's more carnivore about it that i just don't dig i don't know yeah you gotta you gotta crack those bones apart and eat between well and it's more it's it's more chicken breast almost so it's like it's if i want if i want a big piece of juicy chicken i'm gonna make you know chicken breast almost so it's like it's if i want if i want a big piece of juicy chicken i'm gonna make you know chicken breast i don't i that's why i like the drums because it's like it's 80 percent breading and just a little bit of chicken so it's clearly not as much protein i would imagine but it just tastes better you get more of that just that that burnt flaky skin that i

that's the more enjoyable part of a chicken wing so what about you mo Mofo? Flats or drums? So I am the odd man out in this and probably the entire crew. I'm about the flavored chicken nuggies. Yeah, buddy. Toss nuggies. I don't like fighting for my food. You know, I'm not a hunter gatherer. Like I'm all about efficiency. Like and I can I can eat more of the can eat more of the boneless fake wings than I could fighting through a drum or a flat. If I were to pick one, it definitely would be –

it'd probably be the drum as well, which I actually didn't know until recently, until actually the discussion in the Discord grew, that the drum was a drumette portion of the wing. I thought they were just legs, and they were just calling them chicken wings. Yeah, but you know, the secret to eating,

eating the thigh, right? No, no. So you, you twist one end. Okay. And then you use your fingers and you push down and it essentially separates

all the meat from the flat and turns it into a drum. And then you can actually just pop it out. Yeah, but in the time that I've done that, I could put down like four bonus wings. Like four attendees. Absolutely. Absolutely. No, I understand that chicken wings are mostly just a conduit for hot sauce. Right?

Like I could just genuinely just eat hot sauce on my cauliflower bites or something and get away with it but ultimately i just enjoy chicken wings and it's because my mom worked in a chicken wing bar for like my entire childhood so and there were days where i was really young and i couldn't afford lunch or couldn't you know like when i was just kind of on my own at first, I could go to my mom and get chicken wings or, you know, when I was 12 or 13 and the treat for dinner, if my mom happened to finish work early was chicken wings. So I guess I might have a mental association as well, but also just love greasy, hot, spicy as you can make them,

burn my face off chicken wings. So I got one more follow-up. Sorry to kind of hijack your chili question this week with a follow-up from last week. It's all right. Okay. So as your vegetable that goes, you know, chicken wings where I grew up always came with celery. I've gone to places where they serve it with carrot sticks.

I've gone to places where you have to pay an extra $4 to get two pieces of celery. What's the Canadian chicken wing kind of come with? Would it be the same as American? It's carrots and celery. Yeah, it's carrots and celery. Sometimes you get cucumbers and solid argument that cucumbers are more delicious than all of them. But usually it's carrot sticks and the one place i go to has this nice dill dip or it's um tossed with dill it's like it's not ranch because personally i don't really eat ranch which i know based on last week is blasphemous um but they have a dill dip that's like dill and

onion and an amazing shout out to firth's for you know having some decent wings and some decent stuff but it's just just carrots and celery man i do like cucumbers i've only ever had a cucumber with a chicken wing but i'm i i like cucumbers to add bulk to like uh like deli sandwiches so if i go to like a sandwich place and that's not i don't think that's very common i don't when i when i get cucumbers on sandwiches people look at me kind of funny and i'm like no it like adds a little bit of bulk to it it's you know it's it's just it's good flavor it's you know next time you make a next time you make a gin and tonic muddle up a little cucumber first it'll blow your mind because the cucumber will interact with that gin which has the juniper and all that in it. And it'll just absolutely change the flavor of that drink.

Cause most people use limes, but I started throwing cucumbers in there cause cucumbers are much more refreshing. I'm Mexican. We got to use limes. I did just buy some Mexican beer and bought some extra limes to go with it. So, so let's figure that out. All right. So my silly question this week is not i'm worried it's not that silly but i'm also worried i'm also sure that it's going to

get some confusing answers nice i always like that yeah let's hit it all right um tell me about your favorite tree okay I got one so I have my parents house when I so I live in the same house so I was like 12 and then I moved and lived to another house when I was so I was like 22 or something so at that second house I would have been 12 or 13 and I actually like carved my initials into this big ass tree and oh my dad was so pissed and i'm talking like it's like like a huge k and a huge h at least 12 inch you know a foot and a half or so tall foot and a half wide uh to the to this day 25 years later that fucking thing is still there and it's actually like split a lot of the bark off the tree and like the k has like split the bark and it goes up like

six feet now but it's still legible that i like graffitied the tree. The K has split the bark and it goes up six feet now, but it's still legible that I graffitied the tree with my initials in 1997. That is my favorite tree. That's the story behind it. Good answer. Aaron?

The confusion that I got there is are you talking about a single specific tree or a type of tree because that will net two different answers i'd love to hear both i'd love to hear both all right well druthers i'd assume that you're talking about a specific tree um so i haven't grown up in an area that has a lot of trees like we got a lot of palm trees out in california um and depending on you know if you were to drive across from north to south south and north whatever there's just so much different types of like foliage landscape whatever um so favorite tree particular is this palm tree i don't remember what kind of palm tree it was

but it was in my front yard at my old house. And it just popped up out of nowhere. Like we didn't, we didn't plant it there. We didn't like, it didn't see a bulb just all of a sudden show up there. Just one day, like there's this one foot palm tree sticking out of the ground. I was like, where did that come from? And it was like, probably like I lived in the house for about seven years. And it was probably like maybe two years into living there. And I was like, you know what,

I'm going to leave it. And so I just let it grow and grow. And then I decided I was going to try to kill it and I couldn't kill it. And I tried several times. I was like, nope, this guy's staying here. And I do, I don't remember who it was. I don't remember what specific type it was, but it is the type that grows to be about 30 feet tall. So the new owners are going to be surprised in a few years when that thing just sprouts up like crazy if they didn't take it out. So how hard did you try to kill this tree that you couldn't succeed? Are you out there with like a tiny little hatchet just chipping away at it? Or did you like drive some pennies into it?

Or how did you attempt to kill this tree? So a couple times I tried to dig it out um i contrary to like what i look like and what some of my heritage is i'm not that great with physical labor um and like digging with shovels terrible like just not great with it so i tried digging it out once and i gave up um i cut every branch off of it and i was like stabbing it um you know i actually tried digging it out twice um the last time i got it like halfway uprooted and like but then i was like you know what i've spent five hours doing this um i'm just gonna leave it and i just left it let's do this thing i trimmed the the branches down to like get out of my way when i was cutting the grass but that was about it that tree outlasted

you well i mean i'm much older than it but i gave up i let it live i meant in that fight but yeah like in that fight to uproot it it was you were just like nah between the my desire to have you gone and my desire to continue doing this well i mean just like the empire with the death star for the third time, I can always go back and try again. Yes. Yes. But the other part of that question or the other answer for that question, I love Redwoods. Going up to the Redwood forest is so amazing seeing those, you know,

200, 300 feet, foot tall trees that have been around for centuries like those things are insane like they just never smell is amazing yeah they look so cool like the ones that they got there's a there's uh there's one or a couple of them they carved out so you can drive through them but granted it's meant for a smaller car so when i had a rental i was renting a big old expedition. And it was too big to fit through there. But still, it's cool to see those trees.

Those things are amazing. Yes. So interestingly, of all the places in the U.S. that I've been to, I have been to California. And we did go up to the Golden Gate Bridge there. And I believe there's some redwoods off to the side of that. Yeah. And we did go up to the Golden Gate Bridge there. And I believe there's some redwoods off to the side of that. Yeah, the one I'm talking about is more for the north, like Humboldt area, which is right on the border of Oregon, I believe. Okay. But yeah, I know it extends further down, though. Okay, that's the closest I've ever been to a redwood.

I haven't been out west uh even in canada that much uh so yeah i that's my silly question of the week um i would answer it uh i'll give you a brief answer it does stem from a tree that i love and um it's uh this place called the royal botanical gardens here uh near where i live which is a conservatory, but as well as a garden. And they have what's called the Mediterranean Gardens. And you can walk around and have all these plants and trees from all over the world. And I've been going there since I was essentially my son's age. My dad would take me.

And it is a membership place. You can buy memberships at different varying levels contributing uh in fact it is there because it was a um a canadian gift to the queen so if you ever want to look it up it is one of the most gorgeous places if you like plants and trees and there was always a eucalyptus tree up in the one corner of the mediterranean garden near the birds of paradise they have this big 30 foot tall bird of paradise and they had a eucalyptus tree and every time i would go there and i don't know if you guys ever do this uh have you ever smelled trees i might be psychotic but sometimes you just walk up and you do one of these give a quick clap onto the leaves and the distress will send out the smell of that tree and eucalyptus obviously

smells like mint but i would do that every time i went for 30 years and then one day probably after covid when everything kind of opened back up i went in and that tree was gone no and it got me thinking at how like weird it is for a human to notice the absence of a tree and not because it provided shade not because it provided food but just its mere presence was gone um and i ended up writing a letter and talking to the main, I want to call gardener, but there's an arborist. Arborist. Yeah, we have a couple of them. And they told me that it got some rot during COVID, so it had to come down. But they did replace it with a baby eucalyptus.

It's really cool now that I also get to have my son grow up with the son of that tree. That's actually really cool. I appreciate that story a lot. How much of the tree do you think it is versus just you did something for 30 years i mean you could do anything for 30s you can touch a telephone pole for 30 years and i think you'd still have an emotional relationship with that telephone pole like so yeah i can relate i'm very habitual ocd person so having anything you do for more than a couple years i that's that's in true everyone should have something like that in their life. Yeah.

But favorite type of tree would be the Japanese maple. Damn, those things. Or is it a Chinese maple? The red maple that are a little short, but they grow wild. And if the sun shines through them, it just turns everything blood red. They are a gorgeous tree that are impossible to take care of. So that was me answering my own question. That was the silly, silly question of the week, guys.

If you have any answers you want to share in the Discord, we love seeing it. Feel free to blow up that channel as the podcast comes out. It's always nice to see other people's answers to that. So you want to dive right in to overrated, underrated gentlemen? I think we covered most of our topics.

Absolutely. You're familiar with the game there, Mr. Big Mofo? I think we should read the books. Yeah, I think my CRS is kicking in again. Underrated, overrated. It's a pretty long-standing segment of the podcast here. We're going to ask you six or so specific questions to you that came up during our research,

and you have your druthers to pick overrated or underrated. I would say it's not necessarily if you consider it overrated or underrated, but based off the general perception and then how you feel that it's actually overrated or underrated based off the world's general perception of that topic. So are you... And most importantly, you have your druthers but you do have to pick a side right in the line and i'm bringing that up because i made a last

minute change in here and i think i have the hardest one i've ever asked anybody bring it on okay keith yeah i'm gonna let you do the first couple because i didn't put this there aaron overrated or underrated toe spreaders i knew this one was gonna be here um toe spreaders on zoom actually let's discuss that for a second yeah we don't need to go to the back story i just i didn't i honestly did not realize that that was within the field of view so when you guys brought it up i was like that's that's awesome yeah that's too funny but so so so yeah um i would say the knockoff seven dollar ones on Amazon that you get a five pack is underrated but those like $70 toe spreaders that somebody out there sells

that's overrated like do they help yes is it something that I'm gonna spend 70 bucks for no I'm flat footed so I'm gonna do anything I can to help my feet and I think those have helped me like root while squatting and deadlifting.

So I love using them, and there's times where I'll wear them all day long if I'm wearing the right shoes with them. So definitely underrated if you're going with the cheap ones. I'm fine with playing one. That's dangerously close to riding the line. Dangerously close to riding the line. I'll say underrated overall then. Okay. That's what I figured you would say.

I do enjoy that when you were doing that i just yelled did you just join this call to show us your feed because we had never seen your face before and we didn't then either all right keep that underrated on that one you go ahead underrated 100 like i i spent um from the time i was 11 to the time i was 22 23 um hours on end every single day skateboarding uh wasn't ever any like crazy good but it's just a lot of fun easy way to travel but it's just a lot of fun easy way to travel um there i remember one time we're uh skating at this shopping center doing um this rail it's there and um the security guard comes up and he's just talking it's not being mean or anything that he's just hey hey guys you know you're not supposed to skate here or whatever and um one of my friends is off to the side he's just like you know here's the group of people here's this um here's my friend security guards my face he's just slowly walking away really

slowly backing up and then just runs and the security guy's like wait what are you doing like starts running after him so we all just like go in opposite directions and like you know that's something skateboarding brought me but definitely underrated sucks that they like put those stoppers on walls and rails and whatnot so people can't skate on them anymore but underrated for sure nice I'll do my last one here we can switch it over to Mr. Joey

so this is a this is one that's probably going to get some heated debate from your answer because I kind of have a feeling what it's going to be. So overrated or underrated? Sparkling Waters. I will say, you know, the crew is going to kill me. The boys are going to kill me.

Overrated. I've tried LaCroix. I've tried Bubbly. I've tried, I don't think it was Polar. There's a couple other ones I've tried the croix i've tried bubbly i've tried uh i don't think it was polar there's a couple other ones i've tried and it's probably because i don't have the greatest sense of taste but when i taste them all i taste is like the absence of flavor and then the carbonation and i'm like maybe it's because i grew up drinking soda and expecting a lot of flavor and then the carbonation and i'm like maybe it's because i grew up drinking soda and expecting a lot of flavor and i don't get it but you know that's why i got that sparkling

ice one because it actually does taste like what it says it is versus like someone whispering you know lemonade in your ear when you're drinking it the essence yeah i will say overrated but you know i respect other people's opinions and uh if like it, cool, you can be wrong. And if you're asking about this one that I've been drinking, that's definitely overrated. This is, that's, it's honestly like eating a, it's like drinking a blueberry cheesecake. It's just too much. That, yeah, that sounds wrong. All right. Our next one comes from one of the hosts

uh over overrated underrated tanner wants to know and i know i said his name but it is relevant motocross Man, I'll say underrated just because even though it is relatively popular, it's popular within a specific community. So I don't think there's a ton of people out there that love it or that are fans of it, but like the people that love it are really into it. It was cool watching like the X games growing up and seeing uh what is it this is a travis when he got into it doing some crazy tricks that just weren't being done beforehand um there was i remember this one guy i don't remember his name but they called him i think

they called him ticks because he had Tourette's um and so like he would be out riding the course and like having his little like ticks pop it up and he'd be you know approaching the ramp and you see his head like cocked to the side and like see get up in the air do some crazy backflip tricks and whatnot land and just start ticking again he's like man that's that's gnarly so well you know not something i get into um it's cool to see that so i would say underrated all right and then the final two are from me uh they are little adjustments that i've been making while we've been going so uh hopefully they don't fall flat because every once in a while my ou tends to tends to take a swing or a miss

all right um overrated or underrated left-handed screwdrivers well obviously you know i'm left-handed is that a thing like no god no they're a screwdriver they're just amatextras but it wouldn't surprise me overrated underrated being left-handed and i'm like that's not funny so i was gonna put left-handed scissors but i just wanted to throw out the being left-handed and i'm like that's not funny so i was gonna put left-handed scissors but i just wanted to throw out the whole left-handed screwdriver thing because that's way funnier i'm gonna go on a little bit all like if if somehow that's a thing i would say underrated because you know being left-handed like there are certain tools that you can't use properly like um like some power tools aren't designed for you there's a

lot of things that just aren't designed for for left-handed people so i would definitely say anything that's left-handed is going to be underrated for a left-handed person um now you now my sources here say that you also opened um the left-handed emporium like ned flanders at some mall there in California. How did that, how did that weather? So I got my inspiration from watching the Simpsons. Of course. Seeing Ned Flanders open the philatorium.

The problem was I opened it in a city where there was only right-handed people. I didn't do my market research to see where my population was. I poured like all of like, you know, hundreds, maybe tens of dollars into that. So it did take me about a week to recover from that. But, you know, it is what it is. Okay. Tangent. Have you heard oakley dokely oh yeah okay so that when they did the version of the left orium the all that is left and turned it like into a metal song and made it sound like all that is left like pure evil fantastic

yeah i don't i've only seen like several a handful of videos on youtube so i don't like pure evil. Fantastic. Yeah. I don't, I've only seen like several, a handful of videos on YouTube. So I don't like, if you say, Hey, name the song, I'm not going to name it.

Yeah. But like, if you played it for me, I might remember seeing it. All right. If you happen to go and listen to their version of the left orium, the, all that is left,

it's just, it's some really good hardcore metal, but also making that Flanders seem a little sinister. Yeah. All right. The last one, which is either A, going to get us in a ton of trouble, or B,

could be really funny. Overrated or underrated, Lemmy. Say Lemmy? Yep. lemmy kilmeister um so when it comes to music i am not great with names i care about like what the song sounds like i might not even be able to name the song unless it's like you know primus songs or um so he's from he's from Motorhead. That's what I was trying to remember. And he just passed away recently, right? A few years ago. Yep. Yeah.

I want to say underrated, man. Motorhead is a great band. Like I can't name songs, but like I've never heard one of those songs that I didn't like. Yeah. You know, so you put it on. I'm not, I might not necessarily recognize it, but you're like, Hey, come listen to some Motorhead. Ace of Spades. Oh yeah. Dude dude that's amazing yeah yeah um i originally had that as les claypool and then when i asked you the original lemmy thing and you changed it to les claypool

i was like i gotta change this because i wasn't i actually should have not brought up the base earlier and brought it up for the overrated underrated and then we could have told the story about playing bass but um yeah no definitely let me um uh i would argue adequately rated i think most people in punk and metal do love lemmy um but i mean trick question question, Lemmy is God, right? Airheads. I mean, and I think if you go by the time of when that music was more popular, like outside of Rush, you didn't have a lot of like bass players standing out.

So, you know, and just just throughout music history like there's not a lot of bands that have let the bass player you know shine yeah so any band that does that i'm a fan of he once called the worst band in the world and it turns out there was damn lemmy kilmeister I think the next section is being updated. Love the internet. Love the internet. What are we doing? I think we need to do a little sponsor read. Aaron, do you want to do a little riff of a little sponsor read from

Mastodonomics or tell the listeners why they should be sporting members. You know, any little, you know, stroke the ego of the other host just a little bit more, I guess. Well, I mean, like, let me see if I can get into the advertising, like,

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That's at mathonomics.com slash join. Do it now. You probably missed out on this gift that's going out, but there's plenty of perks. Perk City over here again that is a you know learn how to get strong stay strong use your strength the time that easy that was perfect uh and you did hit on one you know what you did hit on one thing that i want to touch on uh there's been a lot of talk about what the gift is uh i think everyone's got their own opinion do we want to i mean it's kind of like those things like if you see it's like when you when you get when you're guessing your birthday present and then you do get it right it's just kind of like it's almost

anticlimactic it's like do we want to go and uh give a little uh what we think it might be or just kind of you know we'll find out in the next week or so just we know we know it's not so we know we know we're not getting the slides that don't exist jack might have sent a pair to someone you know who know like like you know he probably just it's either nothing or slides or if you're spoon yeah nothing ever that shit happens that's awesome the post office store um you want to hear about some hot takes on pea gravel versus sand go ahead and join the messonomics discord i don't know i mean i might have been feeling salty today so i do want to apologize to big dave just have a little salty one of the days

i can't imagine having an opinion about something like this and i felt kind of bad about saying that so sorry man sorry it's all good it's all good banter it's all great yeah i think most of us don't take ourselves that seriously in there but i was kind of mulling over how i might have come across when i said that when i was just like no i'm just kidding i don't give a fuck like i don't can't imagine caring about what people put in their sandbag like i yeah having a salty opinion about that are you are you getting strong are you getting you know staying strong strength using your strength yeah exactly then keep it up we're good um i did i did want to point something out that i thought was funny and i put it in the in the discord, the discord. I don't know if anybody saw it, but like,

so when Tanner first put that, or sorry, one of the hosts put out that picture, right. I just glanced at it and it looked like it was a large box on a hardwood floor with like, with envelopes that were like big. And I was like, I was like, they're probably going to send out like medium sized checks for like a dollar to everybody. And this is going to be so hysterical. And then I looked at it again, and I was like, oh no, that's normal-sized envelopes, and it's sitting on a wood table.

Maybe I need to put my glasses on. You got out-angled. You got out-angled by Tanner. So you need glasses, and you have a uh a uh you know a taste disorder is there was there anything function right on you mr big mofo but yeah exactly i'd buy that was more of a bad segue like because we talked about food a bunch and you know you touch base you do a few different times you mentioned that you have a poor sense of taste is that something is that something new is that something you've always had is that something

what's up with that uh so it's not it's it's it's more like it's degraded i wouldn't say it's like poor um it's because i have a bad sense of smell and i don't know if it's because i have like severe seasonal allergies that last year around or it's because i spent 20 plus years of my life with a dehumidified septum um i got that fixed like a handful of years ago so i don't know what the cause of it is um but yeah like unless something's like really pungent i won't smell it um you know obviously like there's things that i taste that i like and there's things i taste like that just gross me out like you know but yeah for the most part like i would say i don't experience flavors to the same degree that other people do that's very sad that's like one

of the sad i don't i i i guess that would be a good thing though that's got to help keep your diet in check though like you don't like if if shit doesn't okay so it still doesn't so you you can still taste fat and know that it's awesome. Well, I'm very skilled at binge eating. It's funny, you mentioned it, I think, on last week's podcast about when it comes to donuts, cakes, or things like that.

If it's put in front of you, you just engulf it. I'm the same way. I can put down a box of donuts. It's not even bad. Good to know. I may or may not be making a meme talk amongst yourselves tune into Instagram for all your laughs right now

so you are a garage gym lifter as it looks like is that something you've been like so have you been a commercial gym guy or are you pretty much solely into the garage gym now? So and this is something that I found like it's a little surprising to me, but I guess this is more common. Like I discovered lifting as a teenager. I initially started lifting in my bedroom with like a weeder bench press that I bought off my cousin when I was like 15 years old. Um, and then I, we got into lifting at school, um,

or initially wrestling. And then I was able to do it as like a replay, as a elective class. Um, then I didn't live for a couple of years and got back into it when I was like 19 years old. Um, but I, uh, yeah, I went to the commercial gym. I went to 24-hour fitness for several years, seeing all kinds of crazy things in the gym, all the like the memes that you've seen. I grew up lifting before YouTube

where you had to like wait for the next month's issue of, you know, flex or muscle fitness or whatever to see what the next workout was of, you know, flex or muscle and fitness or whatever to see what the next workout was and things like that. Um, so yeah, like, but, uh, COVID is what drove me into going to the home gym life. Um, and I mean, um, why I don't have the best setup. I'm very grateful for it. And I'm, I will never go back to be beneficial to you're saying you're driving like up to an hour a day. So if you're good, yeah i think you're working eight to ten hours a day you're in a car for two to three hours a day it leaves like three or four hours and you're trying to go to bed so yeah trying

to squeeze a workout in there's no way you can justify just doing three hour you know i'm sure the closest gym to you has got at least you know or what opinion where you're at i don't know how bad the traffic is but uh you're talking two to three hours you're talking two to three hours to go to a commercial gym and get any kind of workout in so what yeah it's it's it's way better having it at home but you save so much time um you do run into the issues like where i like like when i get home from work you know because i'm just tired from the drive i like to chill with the wife with my son for a little bit and sometimes i get so relaxed doing that that i end up not lifting but you know still like i can make those lifts up on the weekend too and i just do it whenever i want and i'll have to wait for it i feel like the days that i'm the most active the days that i get my

best workouts in are obviously sunday because that's just when i have my friends over but then like friday friday uh because it's like you just there's no pressure to get up and go to bed or there's no pressure to go to bed at a certain time because i don't get up and go to work on saturdays for me i always try to get my two big like my two big workouts are friday saturday and then i get one to two workouts during the week and it's just kind of you know typically there are certain days but if like if i have a shitty day it's no big deal to move it one way or the other but the friday and sunday are just always a constant in my training i'm very lucky to have that yeah but do you have anything you'd like to ask us this is uh one of a relatively new segment a constant in my training. I'm very lucky to have that. Yeah.

But do you have anything you'd like to ask us? This is a relatively new segment that I'm, it's pretty much my favorite segment because, you know, I love talking. So what do you have for Joey and I? Do you have anything good? The bar's been set pretty high the last few weeks. We've had two or three weeks worth of good content. So you cannot let us down.

Yeah. I will say I not um equal to what those guys have come up with in i mean uh one of them might so i actually have two questions um the first one is who do you think you are and the second one is i, I don't remember your backstory, Big Keith, for gyms, but I remember Big Joey mentioning like batik gyms, and I talked about the commercial gyms. I've seen some weird shit in commercial gyms and going at all hours of the day, all hours of the night. I'm just curious, like what's the weirdest thing you've ever seen at any kind of public gym i've got two that come to mind so la fitness local to me um big commercial it's just your 24-hour it wasn't even it wasn't even it's a big big box gym uh pool sauna hot tub all that jazz so number i said which way did you want the worst one or the second worst one first so i've talked i've got two so i'm gonna go with the one that's not the worst uh and that is so this will prelude to how bad the worst one in my opinion so walk in uh i can tell the i can tell

the hot tub's closed because they got a sign on it and there's no one physically in it but and then and the jets uh aren't physically on like where you'd like turn the dial and they go super on but there's always a circulation pump going uh someone earlier in their day had had an accident took shit in the hot tub and they scooped out the best they could but there's still shit particles circulating around in the center of a hot tub that i've spent hours in uh so i did not get in i didn't wait like hours would you hours before or after the shit but like it was probably six months before i got back into that hot tub i i waited till they they oh okay so it wasn't immediately i just i enjoyed how you're like there is shit floating and i spent hours in there and i was like today like like like but there's a cheap shit soup that people

can go and taste right now like i would have been a member there for like three years prior and spent 20 minutes a week or so in the hot tub and then waited six months until it had you know until it had been drained and flushed at least three or four times before i think i stepped foot back in it again so and that is not my worst public gym story my what i consider some people might consider that worse than the other ones because the other one's a little more medical uh but i think it's just disgusting so everyone has a naked people in the in the gym like in the locker room i've seen you know everyone's seen 100 dicks in the locker room it's not a big deal that's not the problem so in i have not by the way nope you just have gone to gyms where people don't actually change so probably a gym that

didn't have a shower that i imagine because you go to any gym that has a shower correct yeah yeah they well they're a boutique right so they were just independent they had single stall showers because don't don't show yeah every every that's a canadian thing you guys don't look at dicks but i don't i don't like looking at dicks and it's just something where you go to a commercial gym you're gonna see a dick i don't know it is what it is but so it's in in the vein it's a canadian it's only a canadian thing you do not want to look at it that's true thanks for that but um so the the one that still irks me to the day is naked old dude in the sauna with a catheter coming out of his penis, going into a piss bag, actively filling up

with a towel on his shoulders, not covering up his dick. That's the worst thing. What if his shoulder was cold? It was 140 degrees in the goddamn sauna. I don't need to see your dick urinating into a piss bag. And I get that some people might not consider that as bad because it's a medical thing,

but what the fuck? Cover up your penis don't want i don't want to see a little one inch oven with a catheter coming out of it but as a canadian as a canadian i just would not have looked at his dick like you can't like it's just there it's like the sauna is shaped like a u and i'm sitting on i'm sitting directly above and across from him and I'm just like, well, I got to get my sauna in but I guess I don't. That memory. Alright, so Nick's new nickname is Meat Gaiser.

Yep, Dig Looker. Whatever. Dick Farmhunter. If you guys want these soundtracks, I'm going to find them. So to answer your first question uh do you know who i think i am to answer your second question um like personally going to a commercial gym i i really the commercial gym i went to i strictly went for deadlifts like i only went there because they had a deadlift bar and i always tell the story of i don't go there anymore because

i came in and i started walking towards the deadlift um rack they only had one rack with a free bar with a power bar and some kid raced me there to do shrugs. There's three open hydraulics machines. So I don't know what they're called. We'll continue along with each other. Joey doesn't know things. So it's a bar, but it's attached to hydraulics. So it still goes up and down and side to side. A Smith machine.

No, because the Smith machine goes up and down and in and out that's so these yeah they're they're safety machines right they're just there for people to use and still get some resistance with the barbell there's three of those open but this kid races me towards there so that he can do shrugs with the only barbell in the gym. And that was actually the day that I swore I'm never coming back here again. And that is when the pit first opened up. One of the other ones was in an unnamed gym I go to. It was primarily older people. But as some younger people started to join, that would mean that young attractive women started to join. And one of the funniest things you can do in a gym with other people is when there is a young attractive woman is watching the reactions of people around her

and watching them either a not try to hide eye contact at all or be desperately try and hide eye contact. And that's, I do recall that day specifically looking at her going, that's an attractive young lady. And then going, Oh my God, I'm in for the best show ever.

So then I just went to like, like the stair master. so i could just look over the gym and watch everybody in the gym and that was actually probably one of my favorite times is just going like kasha kasha oh you should stop like just doing one of those but there's a creeper there's a creeper there's a creeper yeah well also like not a creeper not a creeper really trying hard not to be a creeper good for you and but i'm being married and completely done with human beings at the time i have the luxury of not wanting to look at people half my age um but either way that's getting into jo Swole stuff here, Goob's going to call me soon. Call me over. Joey Swole's going to go, you don't do that.

Mind your business. Don't call out to anyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mind your business. Do better. Actually, do more, Joey Swole. I would like to see him get on the main podcast. It would be a good interview, I'd imagine. Tanner and I talked about it briefly um you know i was i was tagging him in a lot of posts and trying to and trying to

gather up some support but he seems to have a media team that you can't get past plain and simple you just can't get past them you've got to put an official request he's probably gonna ask for money and i just told tanner i yeah i give up like it's just not gonna happen from our end it's gonna have to happen from uh now lindsey loves to lift who is working or lifting at the lift hard live easy he follows her so if we wanted to tag her in um to get him I mean we should also have her if I'm really pushing it like talking about potential guests for

the main podcast we should have her as well as him but it just wasn't going to happen he just is he's behind a media payroll I always I always prefer the guests that are like at least follow mass economics I get the gottaomics they've done

however many hundreds of episodes you're going to run out of people that actually follow you but like it is just more enjoyable when they at least know something about you I guess for the interview point of view it might even be easier for the host to like interview someone that doesn't know shit about them because then it's like a complete blank

they don't have to play up to any of the bits because there's no expectations from the guests so i could see the benefit of that but like i don't know as a consumer it is it is just always more enjoyable when there's just more of the banter and they everyone gets the bits out i agree it's it's more natural it's more natural yeah i agree and i've said it kind of you know it's always better to interview somebody who knows what you're going to talk about a little bit. Right. When somebody who hasn't listened to our podcast, who hasn't listened to a single episode and they ask us, hey, can I be on it?

And it's like, yeah, eventually. But like, you should probably know what we're doing before you ask to be on and you know i do think that some of the best ones we've had are people that have always been on massonomics like um that boston guy from canada he was great he was good because he like he knows he was into it and you know rob vintage weights he was into it like he knows grant grant is one of my favorite because he is he is in he is us who just happens to own the strength co but also is like one of the crew he just has fun and hanging out with him at the arnold was amazing because like he just welcomed me into the strength co but i'm a because like, he just welcomed me into the strength code,

but I'm a nobody and him and John welcomed me into the strength code booth. But him interviewing is so much more fun because he's on the inside jokes. He's on the buzzwords. So I agree. I agree. It's always better when somebody kind of knows what's up.

Yeah, definitely. Well, boys, we want to bring this in for a landing. Yes, I zoned out for a minute there because I decided to post a meme. Yeah, I've been looking for it, but I wasn't tagged. So I'm going to have to just. No, I put it on the you and you. Okay.

I kind of really wanted to reference that Aaron is smell blind, just like Dewey Cox. Do you remember Dewey cox i feel like we don't talk about he sounds familiar uh he's from walk hard the dewey cox story the spoof of walk the line right it's like he basically is like the johnny cash uh isn't that the uh i don't think i've seen it oh we're gonna have to get you in on that one so that one is a uh it's a spoof of all those music biographies that were done kind of in the 2000s the ray charles the johnny cash the all of these ones um but it's um john c reilly and he it's a comedy but if you like country or rock music at all i think i'm familiar with it i know what you're talking about yeah yeah i think you'll be if you haven't watched it yet you will be very shocked at how good the music is it is so surprisingly good from a soundtrack

perspective because all the original music is was created just for this movie but it's like different variations of like old johnny cash songs and and and uh old ray charles songs and then there's some rap songs thrown in just you know to be funny uh so if you get a chance check that one out well welcome to the movie podcast underpinning i did i some jim carrey some johnson surprisingly i consume a lot of movie podcast like i do ironically listen to a lot of movie podcasts like uh just recapping movies from like the 80s and 90s like my childhood movies like just like there's a couple of them that i listen to uh there's really enjoyable so that is that is that is actually is a thing okay so yeah let's bring it in for a landing boys you want You want to go ahead and follow us on Instagram at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast.

The website, unpaidinternpodcast.com. That's where you can find all us and all our glorious information that Nate diligently puts together to get these podcasts pushed out. I still need a bio. Like, I don't have a bio on there at all. I think it's just my dumb face and a dumb shirt. So you have a better picture, because mine is just like the silhouette of me. Or, you know, it's my picture that just gets copied and pasted and everything else. But my bio is likes orange, or likes the color orange.

And it's just like the one sentence. But not incorrect. So it is factual. That's appropriate. I get a kick out of it. But yeah, that's where you can find us mofo I don't think anyone you want anyone to follow you on Instagram so you probably don't want to shout that out

but do you have anything you want to basically just do you want people to add you as a friend on discord because that is a thing that they could do without you know still keeping your anonymity yeah so I mean on Instagram I don't post anything anyways like i'm i don't put anything out there um so it's pointless oh no i tagged you and that was the first time i actually saw should i remove that should i remove that no you're fine you're good

i would have already i would have already hit you up. Oh, now, okay. So most importantly, though, when your Rush cover band comes out, how are we going to find that? So I actually wear a Nixon mask while we perform to hide my face. So, you know, I think on that one, I'll go um that mofo bass guy um so just look for that uh every picture is gonna have a nixon mask on so you know i'll still be good it'll be like a mix of point break so it'll be a rush cover band but you change all the lyrics to a point break i think literally just gonna say point break yeah exactly that's hysterical one of my one of my favorite movies This is the longest outro we've ever

had. Alright, guys. I hate to say it. I'm having fun. That's fine. Anything else, Mofo? Anything that you didn't, you don't think we covered? Anything you want the world to know about you? Anything that you

think you or that Joey and I should say about ourselves that we haven't shared? This is your closing argument. I mean, keep on doing your thing. You know, thanks for having me on. Definitely, if you guys need someone to sit in, I want to find you guys being out, I'll put my name in the hat. My availability is iffy.

That's the only reason why I never volunteered to be like a full-time guy. But if I'm available, I'd have no problem sitting in if need be um but yeah you guys are doing great keep it up um and then everybody out there don't forget to join the discard crew messenormer.com slash joy uh and you know you'll see me on there that mofo guy all right and you can you can find big aaron the mofo guy, on Instagram at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. And I am Big Keith. You can find me at KeithHoneycutt73. You can follow my orange gym at The No Wine Cellar.

And Joey, where are you at, buddy? I am at Joey underscore M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. Also, I do run the Instagram for unpaid and underrated at the moment um so if you hate the memes i post that's fine um also though guys forgot to call big matt again oh man uh big matt at mostly squat videos man like we really want to get to you. It's going to happen, I promise. But it'll happen next week. It's probably a good thing we couldn't get to him this week because he's still over in the UK, it looks like, right?

I believe. Based off his stories, he is definitely not stateside. I think that's implied. But I might be way off base, but I'm pretty sure he is not currently in America. But I don't know. Who? but I might be way off base, but I'm pretty sure he is not currently in America. But I don't know. Who?

All right. All right, guys. All right, we will see you next Tuesday, boys.