Unpaid And Underrated - 007 : The First Chocolate Chip

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know their first chocolate chip, Big Murph.They dive right into great topics like what numbers can be divided by two, columbo (one of the best shows of all time), what ...meeting tanner is like, and where you might put eyeballs on your body. You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @observemyexpansion (https://www.instagram.com/observemyexpansion). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Murph.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and welcome back to episode four of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew i am one of your hosts big keith joined as usually by my bearded friend oh i'm big joey um that's all i got for now yeah that was that was a i tried to lay you up on it yeah we're still working on that guys just so they had the hand off of the you could have just said my name you said the rest i can that's something it's awkward it's like i feel like about you're stepping on someone's toes if you say the other co-host names but then like if you set them up and then it's like, it's just, I need to get it. It's like you're a ring announcer and you're like,
Starting point is 00:00:48 and weighing in at from his hometown and then let me do it myself. Say it yourself, you son of a gun. We also have big Murph with us this week and we're just going to get into some, some general topics and then we'll dive right into a nice interview here in a little bit. So I guess let's kick it off. What is everyone drinking this week big murph do you have a do you have a beverage choice i do hello gentlemen i am drinking a beverage uh it is an imperial stout called aged on oak from a recently closed brewery called Three Stars.
Starting point is 00:01:28 How recently? You went in there and stole this after they closed? I went to their goodbye party and smoked it up. This is the last of this particular beer that I saved for this special occasion. Fantastic. We appreciate that. I also have a polar black cherry
Starting point is 00:01:42 for the crispiness. There you go. That segues to mine, ironically enough, is a bubbly blackberry. Yours is black cherry or blackberry? Cherry. Okay, so similar but not. And mine's pretty dang good. What about you, Joey?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Water-wise, I will say I am overhydrated today. Water-wise, I will say I am over-hydrated today. So I have a waiting in the wings President's Choice Blackberry Pomegranate Sparkling Water. I think we've been over this, that President's Choice is the top tier choice here in Canada. But I also have, speaking of Murph's known love of weird beers, Murph's known love of weird beers. I have a whipped frosting double IPA called Frosty the Friendship Dragon from Flying Monkeys. I have had this before.
Starting point is 00:02:34 If I recall, it is not as bad as last week's water where it just tastes like vanilla. But it is 8.5%. So if by the end of this I look or sound funny, you can blame the dipper. I'm on a 9.5. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Let's see. Let's see if this, see if this. Disgusting. You don't like IPAs? Not a fruity IP. No, there's not fruity. It's whipped frosting. It's going to have a little hint of vanilla or it's going to be overwhelmingly vanilla and I'm going to throw it out like I did last week.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah, you definitely don't like the vanilla. A little follow up on what you said a minute ago. You said over hydrated. How do you put a mathematical equation to how you feel over hydrated? Did you drink two gallons over hydrated or just you peed a lot? Explain over hydrated. Always back to the dicks with you. I you've peed a lot like like explain over hydrated always back to the dicks with you i went and pee a lot most of the time i wake up dehydrated and then i just go through my day taking electrolytes and as much water as possible but being sick yesterday all i did was drink water and eat food and then
Starting point is 00:03:42 woke up again today and did the same thing so my body feels very bloated um i will not be surprised if i suddenly pause and boot it to the washroom today because uh but i'm gonna have this beer see how it feels move on to the water see how that feels try not to die again tomorrow like i did yesterday nice yeah last week's was rough i had i had never had to pee so bad on an episode until the end of that one. Let's see. What's everyone wear tonight? I've got
Starting point is 00:04:11 as it was talked about on last week's episode, the piss yellow Don't Curl in Me shirt. Big fan of that one. Baby shit. Clearly it's baby shit, not fist. There's me getting it all messed up.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I am in a drinking team. Which was the first shirt that I got from MSM. I think that was one of my first too, actually. I think that was one of the after I first got in, I think that was one of the first ones I ordered. And it doesn't fit anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Because it's big? I got a lot bigger bigger i had to move everything to mediums oh i am wearing the weight is a number heavy as a feeling still waiting for the uh masters is a number old as a feeling i think that's gonna be a good one this is a good like i know they say that all their shirts are printed on the same stuff no but this one feels better like i don't know why this one just feels like silkier i will acknowledge that they definitely i'm assuming they order the exact same shirt but i could we we can put a we could put half the shirts next to each other and there's like an inch to three inch difference in some of them uh so but i've i've i've made shirts you know myself and had them printed off and i get that variance if i go from one shirt to the next so i get it but it just sucks that like t-shirt manufacturers can get away with that uh that they can call it the same shirt and literally have the
Starting point is 00:05:38 the measurements the inches off it just blows my. It makes it very frustrating when you're trying to source t-shirts as I've been trying to do lately. But that can segue... Did everybody get their mail yesterday? So since it's an envelope, though, you would think that Carol's Stream wouldn't just be holding
Starting point is 00:05:59 on to it, right? It's packages more so than envelopes that usually get you? If it doesn't go through Carol's Dream, it will be here sooner, but it's still a couple more days then. Than in the U.S. I received mine. And the stickers
Starting point is 00:06:17 are going to go on my wall. And I got a loan $2 bill. Yeah, same. Eddie, that was hysterical. I was trying to keep track. Once I saw Eddie's story, he literally had at least $50. Well, you know, some
Starting point is 00:06:33 denomination divided by two, so call it $60 worth of dollar bills, $2 bills. I think everybody else just got the $60. $60 is not divisible by two either, is it? So is 50. You could just have $25, $2 bills. You're right.
Starting point is 00:06:48 So I was bad at geography last week and bad at math this week. So there I am. Everyone can make fun of me for that. But yeah, I was kidding. That was, did everyone except Eddie get just one? Or was it like, was there some correlation of like years of membership or something that we've done? That I didn't... I would say it is likely Eddie just got a stack to make a video for Masonomics.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Eddie went to the bank and got a stack himself. That would be amazing. Eddie got the mole helping of the supporting member gift. I'm just waiting for somebody to get this one tattooed show me up make me look like a dick do it go get it bigger on your leg on your dick yeah there you go that'd be good uh us canadians won't see it yeah yeah you're not looking at him that's that's that's a that's apparent uh so i'm still laughing about that. Oh, my God. That was one of the best. Just me and Aaron absolutely dying, trying to hold it in.
Starting point is 00:07:52 That was a good time. Now, were you trying to stay off Discord yesterday? Because you knew. I'm sure you saw it. Well, it'd be almost impossible to be off Discord and Instagram to actually have it be a surprise when you got your supporting membership i'm sure after like you saw the first one you just kind of gave up trying to keep the uh you know surprised i'm not really that into surprises gotcha but yeah so just i knew it was going to get ruined so i just kind of let it happen like i'll get mine eventually and it'll go with the patch and the with the patch which i have in my hand right now and on my leg permanently
Starting point is 00:08:25 and it'll go with my card which i laminated i've got a whole stack i actually keep it right here for when i'm on all my calls i have all the stack of my thank you cards all your other mass economics related phone calls all my zoom calls at work so if i get really bored i can just start like daydreaming you keep them in like a pretty little box like these are like your little keepsakes oh i should i should get like a mass a little a little mass in the mail from mathematics there's a memory box is that what they call those i should i'm curious i'm curious who has the most of those because there's got to be someone that has,
Starting point is 00:09:05 well, cause like, look at it this way. Like someone could have more mass economic stuff, but have less, uh, cards. Cause if they,
Starting point is 00:09:11 if they order two or three times every time versus someone that's ordered one thing every three months for three years, four years, like they might have more cards, but not necessarily more stuff. So that's kind of a weird how you would correlate that of who actually is the bigger supporting member and the one that has the most stuff or the one that has the most cards i do i will say i enjoy the timeline of the cards because it goes from big joseph to big joey as
Starting point is 00:09:34 soon as tanner clues in who i am and that's about the time i started chatting with them on instagram yep there's some big joseph's one he even got one to big morgan because i said hey write the she says i don't know how i feel about being big but i'll take the letter yeah i i've uh he they've been able to recognize when my wife orders to still address it as big keith yeah which but i kind of like selfishly want there to be a card that says big stephanie and just kind of see her face and just she would not appreciate that necessarily. So that would be kind of amusing. But what's everyone think about the upcoming contest? I mean, it's clearly some sort of a Jefferson deadlift, but they didn't really release like excessive specifics other than there will be some type of Jefferson deadlift contest. I am feeling a little optimistic about getting in early.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Like if I get in an early submission, because they don't really have the women's list going. So I feel like I could easily get booted off of it, but maybe I could get in on the ground floor to just be on that for a second. No, yeah, that would be cool. Yeah. I guess I never thought about that. There isn't there. They do need to get on. Did they ever talk about an episode of actually starting a woman's okay so they just have not done that but f f you know say three or four months from now
Starting point is 00:10:51 when we actually whatever the contest is if it's more on form or more on just max effort or if it's all just like doing it while doing something obnoxiously masonomics like you know because i know they're they're not typically just oh the highest number you know the highest weight wins it's not really our bag. It won't be a sets and reps. It won't be a sets and reps contest. No. I already did one for, I did the garage gym competition last year sometime.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I did my first one and I did a Jefferson deadlift as my variation because it was right after my meet. And I did my Jefferson deadlift in a dress, which I thought was fun. Nice. But I don't think I made it on a list anymore. Where does your Jefferson correlate to your regular deadlift? Were you actually going pretty hard on it? Or was it more of a, I just want to get a video out there going to Jefferson kind of thing? Yeah, I practiced one the week before and just kept hitting my legs and was like, how
Starting point is 00:11:47 the fuck do I do this? So I think that I just, I don't know what I threw on the bar. I'd have to look back. But it was definitely much less, but the coordination wasn't really there. But I would train for this one. I'm genuinely shocked, I think, i do a jefferson deadlift at how much it hurts my pecs and i don't i don't see it coming but it's because when you're getting up there and you're trying to lock out you can't lock out like you normally do by pushing all your
Starting point is 00:12:17 shoulders back because your hands are on either side of your body so you end up having to use your shoulders and your pecs to push back and that i think i did 365 or something the one time and that just hurts so much i said i'm not doing that again but we'll find out maybe i am gonna do it again maybe we'll do four plates just to mess with my life that would be impressive really hurt myself because i'd be like what 80 80 80 ish percent for you 85 percent something like that it'd be hard yeah you know it's interesting because my four plates is actually not bad for me right if you remember at the arnold i just walked in walked over to the strength co and did a cold 405 and a kilt and it was easy it was easy but then
Starting point is 00:12:58 you start getting out to the 465s and they start kind of like, those increments matter. I don't know. We'll find out. Or maybe I'll die trying. Jefferson PR or Jefferson ER? Well, keep it on the sets and rip. Me and Big Murph are about you're just, you are doing the meet in July, right, Murph?
Starting point is 00:13:20 You are on the roster. Indeed. I thought I saw you on the roster. I just, you know, I didn't know. I feel that there's definitely some people on the roster that, you know, have already backed down and they just haven't updated the picture of it. So just double checking on that. So we're about four and a half weeks out, give or take. How are you feeling? Your body's you get starting that taper trying to, you know, everything's getting a little heavier each week. You guys can't see, but she smiled and drank a beer. you guys can't see but she smiled and drank a beer feeling good overall um i think the last message i sent my coach was something along the lines of
Starting point is 00:13:53 like oh i'm feeling pretty beat up i think it was the combo of like the reverse ssb squats and deadlifts or whatever and he wrote back he was was just like, no, it's the fuck ton of volume I've been giving you all week. That's why you're struggling. I was like, okay, let's just check it. I think this is another hard week and then we'll start to taper.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I'm just doing whatever he tells me. Nice. I got a frantic text from my coach yesterday saying, fuck, your meet meets the 22nd not the 16th and i was like yeah and so like we basically started hitting like our singles a week or a full week early so now i just have to i'm not sure how we're gonna adapt to that if we're gonna have like a mini deload or just go up half an rpe or something but
Starting point is 00:14:41 yeah so instead of having three weeks a single and a deload i'm gonna have four weeks of singles and a deload and just progressively heavier so just essentially started my tape for a week early and i he my one of my my coach has another client there's a buddy of mine we're both in town he's doing uspa nationals on like the 16th so my my coach just thought we were both doing the same date i think for some reason so i don't know but he uh he apologized yesterday so he he threw something together and fix it but that kind of threw me for a loop yesterday because anything that's like not planned and organized and like has a path like always fucks me up when i have to adapt on the fly so as uh is evident by everything
Starting point is 00:15:18 i do and say in my life but i shall make it work i enjoy enjoy a plan as well. I was, this morning I was testing my new knee sleeves because I got some of the ghost knee sleeves upgrading from my, well, I don't know, upgrading, but getting a more serious pair than my very comfortable, very not stiff Stoics. And it was not the best experience,
Starting point is 00:15:45 but we'll see if I end up using them in the meet. But I was like, well, I need to be able to test this out because I like to reduce the variables. Agreed. Were they just obnoxiously painful or just hard to... It was more painful than I expected. I knew it would be tight, but I've been definitely at the top end of, like, the sizing.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So I knew that that would be where, you know, that it would be tight. But I felt like I was going to have a panic attack just wearing them. So, like, as I'm doing warm-ups, I was just like, breathe. Fuck. It sucks. But I got through them. I did all my squats. I got them off, breathe. Fuck. Sucks. But I got through them. I did all my squats. I got them off.
Starting point is 00:16:27 It was fine. But it did suck. Well, we got a month to figure it out. And then, you know, what I'm kind of excited about, in 30 days, all three of us will be in the same room. Assuming no one's plans have changed. Like, that's where all. I think you are the first guest we've had that is also going to meet believe yeah everyone else is like had other you
Starting point is 00:16:51 know well scant is coming oh yes okay so yeah scant will be there no he's performing okay okay so yeah i was lifting yeah the first the first uh chocolate chip we want to meet though at least so since she's the only one we've had on the podcast so far. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. The Arnold was, like, life-changing a little bit. Just going and meeting people that I've kind of viewed as celebrities, right? You know, the Massonomics guys, the Norse Fitness guys, Strength, Cody, and Grant.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Hanging out with Jonathan Oldham. Kim and I hung out for most of the time I was there. Dan Bell came and hung out with us. That was top-tier, kind of, just in my element, drinking beer, lifting heavy weights, walking around, meeting people. I still think the Lift Hard, Live Easy is going to be a little more fun
Starting point is 00:17:42 because there's not going to be anybody there who takes themselves as seriously as two-thirds of the people at the Arnold did. And I think that it's going to be just people having fun, drinking beer, making fun of each other, making fun of themselves. Like, just people being Masonomic silly. A gathering of silly gooses and a few people who might not know what they're getting into. Right? So I'm really excited about it and really excited to meet you guys. What shirts am I going to bring? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Like, I don't even know. That's a huge choice. I gotta... Somebody said something about they were picking out their weigh-in attire, and I was like, oh shit, are we all showing up in the same shirt? How weird is this going to be?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Go ahead. We're all getting in Thursday. A lot of us are going to be getting Thursdays. It's like four or five days with the Masonomics shit I've got to wear. That's a fair amount. But I am excited about they're going to have a booth at the meet.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I am sure I'm sure we can. I don't know if we can necessarily hit up Tanner like before the meet for certain things or anything or just like, you know, buy it at the meet. But I have heard, you know, through the grapevine that he's going to have some some some bootleg stuff there that you can't get on the website. Some bootleg stuff there that you can't get on the website. So that's actually really exciting because there's some shirts that I think we all missed out on after they had to pull them down off the site that they are going to have a surplus of. And then just for the crew, essentially. So that'll be cool to restock my collection of shit that I thought was gone forever. I'd like to get my singlet and pick it up there because I don't want to pay double shipping for the singlet that's my that's my issue there because i already ordered all the other stuff and the singlet got postponed
Starting point is 00:19:30 i'll have to pay another shipping um grant is going to be there he's got some some special shirts maybe be made maybe maybe yeah we heard about that on the podcast i believe and i got to get in touch with barefoot because they didn't have my size at the arnold and they said if i send them an email or something early they'll have them for me there so i'm gonna see if i can get a hold of uh is it big carly there well i'm gonna mess it up she's gonna be so mad or just hate me um sorry i went off the tangent i don't doubt did you guys see that it happens it happens so speaking speaking of the podcast um let's rate last week's this week's podcast the sneaky episode the sneaky episode that they they recorded and then put out later uh the state of the
Starting point is 00:20:19 union i guess is what they called it yep state. State of the union. I believe I always like hear them talk about behind the scenes stuff. You know, it's, it's, we, we, we get a lot of that in the discord when, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:30 they kind of spill the beans on some stuff, but they, you know, there's only so much they put out public. So I mean, granted they put that all, they put everything out public in the episode, but just,
Starting point is 00:20:39 just being able to get like a full hour ish of them just talking shop. You know, we don't get a whole lot of that. There wasn't, they didn't have to stop and do an interview or like they didn't have a whole bunch of other points they had to hit on. So just being able to hear a solid hour-ish of just,
Starting point is 00:20:52 you know, content that we find enjoyable, you know, I'll go ahead and give it a five out of five JD powers this week. Marth? They definitely did touch on more sets and reps this time, but because they sprinkle it in so rarely, I enjoyed it. And it's always good to get an update about the state of things. So I will also give it five JD powers. I don't like that they snuck it up on us.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Although I kind of figured when we didn't have an event that they weren't doing a recording. But also we knew that both were traveling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm also not like Columbo. Like I didn't like put that together. I have things going on. I should have. Also Columbo.
Starting point is 00:21:34 One of my favorite shows of all time. But I... What? Columbo. One of the best shows of all time. Lost me. What are you pulling at me? You don't know who Columbo is?
Starting point is 00:21:43 I really don't. No, I'm 100 i've i've watched i've literally watched like two years of tv and movies in my life according to one of my apps and i don't know what that is okay uh let me give my rating and then i'm going to give a brief explanation of what colombo is perfect um i will say i love getting Tommy excited. So I know I said their name, but he doesn't like get excited on the podcast very often. But when it comes to that stuff, like ordering shirts and talking about, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:18 how much you have to spend to get some money back, like it's hearing him get genuinely excited was really neat. So I think I'm going to go ahead and give that five JD powers associates. I'm not kind of interesting. Cause I think he's the more excitable one. Yeah. But Tanner's always a little more outgoing and Tommy's a little more introverted.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And then hearing him get that excited about something, I don't know. It was just neat. Or maybe I just miss it on another podcast. Okay. Feel free to call me out on that one. But now, okay. Whoa, Columbo.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So we're going back in the 80s. Columbo was American. Before that. Yeah, 70s, 80s. But I would know it from the 80s. I think the first two episodes or something, Leslie Nielsen was on it. So that's probably way before that. If any of you guys want to Google that first episode let me know while i'm describing it um my explanation of it is colombo was america's answer to um sherlock holmes
Starting point is 00:23:12 so it was peter falk uh and he was a detective cigar smoking trench coat wearing uh and his essentially they turned it around on you by showing you at the beginning of the show who the murderer was. And then throughout the show, you just had to watch Columbo figure it out. And one of the neatest things about him is that he always kind of already knew. And he would just annoy the suspect to the point of them admitting to it. But it would take an hour or two every episode and he did that and this is why i say he was the answer america's answer to shakespeare because not only shakespeare always shakespeare sherlock holmes always went after similar yep
Starting point is 00:23:58 sure same guy yeah always went after both m&s always went after like the rich, the big supervillains. Like, you know, he went after these big over-the-top archetypes. But Columbo was always going after celebrities and people who thought they were above the law. So he was going after all these millionaires and everything, but not because they were geniuses or supervillains, but because they thought they were above him. And he would do so by acting stupid for the entire time so that's kind of what i loved about colombo is he he just was really good at his job and it was an engaging tv show and it turned the whole detective con kind of conversation around so if you ever don't watch colombo like like I think you're missing out, put that up there with Golden Girls and The Littlest Hobo at that time period as like things that you should watch to really understand the history of television.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And the fact checked on that as the years 1971 to 1978. So maybe Scantz is the only one that was alive during this original airtime? I was way off. But remember, our memories about that era everybody that thinks about the 80s actually happened in the 70s and everything that everybody thinks happened in the 70s actually happened in the 60s well i wonder if that's more true for our generation well i mean that kids these days may not understand that because they don't have the experience of reruns that we had of like, well, I watched it when it was on TV.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, that's true. We watched it in syndication. Years and years and years after, but judging by that guy's hair, this is the 80s, but it was probably the 70s, a good call. Thank you for fact-checking me on that. And also, you're welcome,
Starting point is 00:25:44 Columbo fans fans he always had he always had the lazy eye in the cigar and he would just like say something and they would yell at him then he'd turn around and he'd come back and do his just one more thing and every time you heard the just one more thing you knew he had the guy the guy the guy well guys can i ask everyone listening to this podcast to do me a favor on your phone devices there that everyone has go to iTunes
Starting point is 00:26:11 go to Spotify give us a rating give us a review it'd really help get the podcast numbers up we'd really appreciate it so anything you can do to kind of help boost our numbers for the underrated unpaid shit the unpaid and underrated podcast we'd really appreciate it so go help us out with that we did crack 1000 downloads i did see that i well i saw it now that i was let back into the uh
Starting point is 00:26:30 discord i was accidentally exiled uh and hidden from a lot of the uh stuff in the private discord for the podcast because nate forgot i was a host that probably wasn't on purpose but it is kind of no no it absolutely wasn't that was yeah no no no i was just like oh we just changed the whole format of this and i just have to adapt on the fly and then oh wait no it's still there i just still can't see it so there i'm back yeah we got a thousand downloads and if you haven't already given us a rating choose a rating i'll try and feature them on the instagram if people send me the american ones i've only got two Canadian ones. So I've already put those out there.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So if you want to do that, send them to me. Take a screenshot. If you want to admit to it that it was you, that's also great. All right. We got Sponsor Read. So this week's sponsor is, of course, the Mastinomics podcast. If you're not already a supporting member, and I'm imagining if you're listening to this, you are. And if you're listening to this and you aren't, go ahead and go to mastinomics.com slash join.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Put in your credit card information and give them money every month. And you can join us on the discord you can join us in our cool perk city population us with our neat little jefferson deadlift things our tattoos our patches and all that kind of stuff and big thanks to massnomics for essentially spearheading what we're doing right now. Absolutely. We wouldn't be able to make this happen without them. So thanks, guys. And Big Nate, because I also have no clue what goes into this after this part. I have to imagine he spends, so say it's a two-hour, hour, 45-minute podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:22 You got to think he spends four or five hours minimum like start to finish over the course of you know because i can't imagine he just sits down and does it all but i don't know uh he definitely makes it look easy uh i know he banged the whole editing out on monday because he kept like you know he had a couple questions for us or some some comments that we clearly knew that he was just getting to it so because he was like he was out of town so really appreciate big n Big Nate is the, you know, the star behind the,
Starting point is 00:28:47 we're just the host. Nate is the star. It would not happen without him. So we appreciate you, buddy. The man is an artist. I agree. Should we get our guest on the horn?
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah. Let's see if she can, you know, she's been in that waiting room for an hour. Let's see if we can get her in. All right. Big Murph. Is that you?
Starting point is 00:29:04 Gentlemen. Hello. You are live on the Unpaid and Underrated podcast. First question, the very first question I have. I call you Big Murph. Everybody calls you Big Murph, but I'm sensing there's a different name. Are you willing to give out your first name to the Mastanomics Discord group today? I am because it has been posted by Big Dave on numerous occasions by the XPC Instagram. My name is Christina Murphy.
Starting point is 00:29:40 All right. That's Murphy. Big Christina Murphy, or can we call you Big Murph? Big Murph is fine. Big Murph is fine. Big Murph is fine. Does that come from school, like that last name shortening thing? I think every Murphy has probably been called Murph. There are a lot of us.
Starting point is 00:29:55 But Murph was often the nickname for any sports that I played. That's fair. It's appropriate for my lifting Instagram to go with a sports name rather than Christina. Well, I thought your Instagram was ObserveMyExpansion. Yes, but the it says on there the name? Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yes. It's always tricky when you have the you can have your Instagram handle, but then you still have to have have a name and then it's like everyone on discord has fake names everyone then you go to try to find that person on instagram and i'm like i don't which which one are you are you the guy with like a whole bunch of letters scrambled together that doesn't mean anything to me okay that's my last name yeah well yeah zed yeah i'll get all these random instagram requests or like friend or you know people following me. And I'm like, who the hell are you?
Starting point is 00:30:46 And then I'll see like friends in common or like other followers. And it's like all Discord bros. And I'm like, oh, okay, you're cool. Yeah. I don't know. Are you a bot or you Discord? Like, what is it? Where do I know you?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Are you going to try and sell me supplements today? So Murph, what brought you to massonomics I think the first time I ever heard of you you sent in a sack was that you no okay negative all right something made me follow you after at some point and I thought that was it so what brought you into massonomics so I don't remember who but someone shared a post with me um I think it was a now banned banner or shirt um the beer parody fun the funsies um was how I got in. I enjoy beer. I had gotten into lifting. So someone was like, hey, I think you'd like this. They enjoyed it and found their podcast and then pretty much immediately ordered drinking team shirt and the lift evil shorts because they were of the last three pairs and um started following the podcast and then joined the discord pretty and pretty soon after so that was in february of 22 so i'm still fairly new how many uh how many episodes do you think you've uh listened to through that uh you're
Starting point is 00:32:23 basically just listening to like live from February 2022? Or did you dive back into any of the old ones or anything? Or did you cherry pick some of the old ones? I've definitely listened to everything since then. And I did cherry pick going back to anyone I had heard of or was interested in. And then some other randoms probably. But I've not done all of them. So both parts of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Partycast, you did. I know I did the first one. Partycast is brutal. I know I would be more interested now to go back and listen now that I have an idea of who the hell people are. But before, I was just like, what is happening? I don't know any of this.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm also fairly new to lifting culture. I feel that. I feel that. Yeah, that's definitely me too. And also, though, adamantly trying to stay out of it at the same time. If I see a shirt I like, I might like, yeah, I'll order that and look into the company and be like, yeah, I don't need to know you. Yeah, the drama is very interesting. And I didn't know anything about the about Feds even before more recent Fed drama.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And it was just it's a lot. It's a whole world. It is. I think it's perpetually online people looking for something to do. is and i think it's perpetually online people looking for something to do yeah but actually um so in the discord and some other really cool people that i've connected with on instagram um have given me a lot of really cool advice over the last couple years about navigating the world and not dealing with some of the bullshit so that doesn't include just saying, yeah, I don't care about that. No. I was being like, wait, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Is this okay? What's going on? Yeah, just don't show up on Goob's Instagram and you're fine. That'd be so bad. Your life would be fucking ruined. But then again, a lot of those people, if you look at someone's older post and you click on the person's tag,
Starting point is 00:34:31 unless they were pedophiles, if it's just them altering their pictures, no one gives a shit to some extent. But yeah, the people that have done shady shit and know they've done shady shit and they're in the fitness world, they have to be just shitting bricks. If there's any evidence out there, they just know it's going to come out at some point, even if's like years from now like that that guy's gonna fucking catch them and it's gonna just ruin their lives oh i mean it's kind of easy uh don't touch children well yeah for sure like clearly probably i know that might be a stance that some people get mad at me for we try not to get political on here but like if like i don't think that's a political that's uh i think i think we'll allow i'll use my brothers and you know we're we're good you know yeah yeah everybody's on the same side of me on that one yeah yeah we're all set so uh so meeting people like i mentioned at the arnold or maybe
Starting point is 00:35:16 in 30 days um did you ask tanner what it was like to meet you i did not do a debrief with him after the meet so i got that for you yeah was that exciting like how cool was it for you to meet me i enjoyed how that happened though can you tell us how that happened yeah so he mentioned uh in the discord that he was coming to dc was like is anyone nearby um and i think he mentioned it while dc was experiencing the smoke coming down from up north um so i think i just made jokes about it and I didn't respond. But eventually he was in DC and messaged me like where he was and I was not in DC. He messaged me, but we ended up coordinating just messaging about what he was up to, like tourist stuff, you know, and I gave him some recommendations and i ended up saying you know
Starting point is 00:36:25 maybe you want to go to a baseball game they're in town could be fun you can get cheap tickets because they're terrible this year and um it's a rebuilding year and uh so yeah he ended up going to the game i went to the game and um then we found each other now that was what i enjoyed was he posted a video and he said i'm at this game looking for you and then you posted video saying i've been summoned and then the next picture was you two together was that on purpose or did you guys is that how you two knew you were each other at the game? We were DMing separately on Instagram, but yeah, we didn't coordinate that. It just, he posted that video. So I took a video like as I was walking over to his section to be like, Oh, I'm looking for you.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Pretty funny actually. Yeah. I really enjoyed the picture just cause like, it still didn't give me any reference of how tall you are, Big Murph, because that host is so tall. I got a couple of comments about how tall he was from the photo, and I am 5'4",
Starting point is 00:37:35 so I think I helped his angle a little. That's fun. You're the same height as me. Give or take a half an inch. I stood in between those two and just looked like a child like just another small so uh speaking of dc we hear you're a big nationals fan is that uh that's just and if they've been letting you down every year they uh, you know, I haven't really followed baseball.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I know they had, like, Strasburg was, like, the last time I followed baseball, and that was, like, 10 years ago, I think, when he was a rookie, because he actually played in the AAA team in Rochester, where I'm from. So I saw him, or he didn't play for them, but he played on another team that played them here, and that was, like, a sold-out game that we were actually at.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It was kind of cool. Yeah, so the Nats won the World Series in 2019, kind of cool yeah so the Nats won the world series in 2019 and uh since then there has been a sell-off of our good players so we now have a lot of rotating youth um and it's not going great but um they were a heartbreak for many years we called them the cardiac gnats they just they would do so great and then just fall apart in like the seventh inning all of our closers were terrible for many years um but being from 2019 helped keep me through the pandemic i could just be oh, but remember those good times. Being from Toronto, I understand that.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I'm not from Toronto. I'm just outside of it. But the Jays also happen to get your hopes up a little bit. And then shit the bed. Like, completely. So, I get that. Speaking of Jays, I want to ask a question about about this it's come up from a few people do the fact that a lot of mlb at least teams have bird names conflict with how you feel about them does not i'm not afraid of names or words. Okay. That's good.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Is that some of the advice that your friend gave you about dealing with just bullshit on Instagram and stuff and lifting community? Because that kind of seems like it'd be really good advice for that also. I've got some interesting bird advice from the lifting community. I've gotten interesting bird advice from the lifting community. For those who don't know, I was lifting outdoors for a year or so. And I have a fear of birds, which I sometimes refer to as a respect for dinosaurs. And I have posted some of the reaction videos because they existed and they were funny but it is a genuine fear i do always think they're coming right for me um so there's a panic um i'm told that they're never coming right for me but no eventually they're going to come to me. So I've gotten various advice, mostly about the crow who was haunting me for some time and bringing me gifts, including bones.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And that's hilarious because I would love to have a friend. I would love to have a crow friend or a raven friend. And you just accidentally made one and just don't appreciate it i have moved across town and every now and then i'll see a crow and and i feel like we make eye contact i'm like is it you i could be did you find me that crow that crow might have actually mourned you when you left i don't know if you know that it's possible i told the new tenant who moved into the apartment about the crow it's like they might be coming back like may june of next year well they they do they mourn uh each other if they die so they might have mourned you when you weren't there anymore so what was it so you're the first patio lifter
Starting point is 00:41:41 i think we've had on i know that the guys like to pretend they care about the difference between basement and garage. I'm now a basement dweller, but... Great. So am I. I love your home gym. Can I put that out there? Oh, thank you. Some of the flags you decided on, we won't get into them, but I saw them and I was just like, I knew that one was a good one. But what was that transition like? And do you have a preference?
Starting point is 00:42:12 I mean, there are times that I miss lifting outside. I first started lifting outside out of necessity. It was just during the pandemic. I didn't have space in my tiny apartment. So when I had gotten a bar and some bumpers, I was dead lifting in the alley by the trash can, um, and then moved to a place with a patio. So then I had the patio gym for some time. Um, and benching on a beautiful day is amazing. Like just looking up at the sky when there are no birds and just beautiful blue sky and like you're doing tempo bench and you're watching clouds
Starting point is 00:42:48 just slowly move across hell yeah loved it other times like on humid days or when it was raining or when there were four inches of fucking snow not so beautiful I enjoyed deadlifting
Starting point is 00:43:04 in the snow so maybe I'm just crazy I did feel like a badass like it was pretty fun Not so beautiful. I enjoyed deadlifting in the snow. So maybe I'm just crazy. I did feel like a badass. It was pretty fun. The videos kind of made it worth it. I was like, well, this will at least look cool, even though this sucks. My toes were numb all of the time.
Starting point is 00:43:24 But I never actually fell. I never straight up slipped on ice but there there were some close calls i'd be worried in the summer about just getting sunburned like a son of a bitch like that i had an umbrella okay okay and because i didn't want to put on too much sunblock like if i was squatting because i didn't want to yeah it would burn the shit in my eyes yeah so i mean i'm also a very pasty white lady so i and freckled so i burn easily so i always coded multi-layering sunblock um but so i had the umbrella that was a necessity that it was it was helpful when it was raining to have the umbrella but it was mostly for the sun i can imagine being on the bench as soon as you said benching outside the first thing i thought is the sun in my eyes because i had to like put a flag up
Starting point is 00:44:11 in my basement to stop the sun then i got so annoyed i moved to the whole gym but now an overhead light is directly above my bench so i have to turn that off so i pretty much bench in the dark so i'll put on sunglasses even in the basement sometimes because i'm just my eyes are very sensitive to light um but so outside i was almost always wearing sunglasses and i would put on like uh specific sunglasses when i was benching there were like my bicycling sunglasses they were like more intense that helped can i ask the difference this is just a part of, you know, watching you on Instagram and it just came to mind now. What is more distracting when you are going to lift and a bird came by or when you're about to lift and a cat jumps on you? Because I can imagine that they're both distracting.
Starting point is 00:44:59 You might like one more than the other. But like what interrupts your mindset or that lift more? Also love your cats. Adorable cats. Yeah, they're beautiful. I went from being like badass deadlifting in the snow to like a cat lady in the basement. It's such a, the progression. I would say that I was always
Starting point is 00:45:25 expecting a bird, and I'm always expecting the cats. I'm on alert all of the time. But no, the crow was definitely more of a concern. So I'll take the cats, and yes, they are beautiful.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Now, speaking of the cats, big cat guy, so I can dive the cats and yes they are beautiful now speaking of the cats big cat guy so I can dive into some cats do is one more of an asshole in the gym than the other or are they both equally fucked with you and your lifting um one of them is definitely more wants to hang out and climb
Starting point is 00:46:01 on me um yeah he will cry for more attention the other one just wants to lay on my bench and climb on me. Yeah, he will cry for more attention. The other one just wants to lay on my bench and lay on all of my shit. So they're both slightly frustrating in the gym, but in different ways. Okay, I can appreciate
Starting point is 00:46:15 that. That's funny. One is in my way when I'm benching, the other is in my way when I'm squatting. They both have to go the fuck away if I'm deadlifting. So one of them is a powerlifter who's taking up your bench by doing rests between their sets all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And the other one's that broccoli-haired kid who is shrugging in the squat rack. Yeah. I have a home gym, but I still have to deal with bros. I'm assuming they're both indoor cats only? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Okay. So yeah, you would have not, my, my, my late cat was a indoor outdoor cat and with your loathing of birds, you would have not have liked living in my house because over the 10 years he was an indoor outdoor cat, he probably brought me 10, 15 birds, like into the house and varying degrees of aliveness. So every animal, contrary to popular belief in my opinion, every animal almost plays fucking dead for a second
Starting point is 00:47:12 when you go to grab paper towels and pick it up and then it starts flying and shitting everywhere in the house or squirrels, mice, rabbits, snakes, small chipmunks. My cat brought in so much shit. It was pretty much some kind of animal at least once a week, once a month,
Starting point is 00:47:32 just depending on the time of the year. But it was horrible. So you would have not appreciated being woken up at 3 in the morning by rodents. But I guess the birds never came in at night. It was just the mice and rabbits were at night. But birds definitely during the day. And then it's very hard to get a bird out of the house just flying around like you can oh you can open the door and you're trying to shoo it out but it's just like just flying into the wall that there's it's shedding the feathers are everywhere
Starting point is 00:47:54 like there was we had one time there was a bird and like a month later i was still like vacuuming up like little baby feathers like behind the couch and shit i'm like how did i not get all these yet like where do these come from i think i would leave just nope i'm leaving no absolutely not i i kind of wonder if as a lifter um the reason cats do that the reason they bring you prey is because they think you're too skinny and can't bend for yourself and i wonder if as a lifter if i i'm probably going to make this as a meme for the you and you page uh just like ow dude like i'm doing what i can here and the cat's just like yeah bulk up skinny i think that our cats have only brought like they bring toys mostly like i'm very glad that they haven't brought me any bugs because they do find bugs play with them rip them in half do all of that nonsense great job i reward
Starting point is 00:48:53 them you get all the treats good job but um i have been worried that they're just gonna like bring me a bug in bed so like if one jumps on me in the middle of the night I'm like what did you do what is this why are you doing this like did you just drop a bug on me but no such luck they'll just bring me like their springs and little fuzzy toys and stuff but so maybe they don't think
Starting point is 00:49:18 that I need yeah you're doing okay they think we've watched you lift you're doing alright yeah they also don't have access to a lot of stuff, just the bugs. Well, bugs aren't prey. Bugs are toys, probably.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Speaking of cats, we got a cat on the podcast. It's our first cat podcast. That's so cute. Bugs and cats. Just a little quick story. my my dipshit cat you know r.i.p he got a stink bug and didn't you know clearly didn't know what a stink bug was and like we couldn't get to him in time and that fucker sprayed him and he went he it was i've never seen him like do the back pedal circle thing in fast forward. It was so sad. And then it was slightly amusing because it's just like, ah, shit happens.
Starting point is 00:50:11 You poke the bear, you get bit, whatever. But he just went directly to his water. He was just lapping water all night. He was trying to get that shit taste out of his mouth. But yeah, I don't think I ever saw him mess with a stink bug again that summer. All right. I have a Mr. the Stinkbug again that summer. All right. I have a question from the crew. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Now, if you wouldn't mind giving us some preface of why we refer to you as a chocolate chip. And then kind of how does it feel? Is the crew welcoming? Is the crew ex-nominating? Are we constant? Well, we are. We're constantly pointing out that you're of a different sex or gender. So that's got to be a thing.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But what is it ultimately like being Big Murph and a sea of us. Well, let me speak for all women. When I say, Oh, I just met you. How dare you? Who do you think you are? So I believe the reference to the ladies being chocolate chips is that we're all in this, like, a nice, beautiful cookie in the discord, and that sprinkled in our occasional women as the chocolate chips in the cookie. Is that the origin? That's how I get it, yeah. Yeah, I think that's where I got it from.
Starting point is 00:51:41 A chewy chips ahoy that, you know, they always bitch about how bad it is. I think. Well, we're more of they always bitch about how bad it is. I think. We're more of a delicious, like a good one. Not a crumble? Made, perhaps. Yeah, so it is interesting at times. There are definitely
Starting point is 00:51:59 some responses that I've typed and then deleted and said, nah, fuck that. Never mind. But I do refer to the Discord generally as my lifting bros when I'm talking, when I'm telling my
Starting point is 00:52:18 boyfriend about if I ever refer to the Discord group he'll be like, you're lifting bros? And the answer is yes. Big Jen, also one of my lifting bros. As are all of the other chocolate chips
Starting point is 00:52:33 in the group. But I don't think that there's anything... What was the question again? Like, what's it like being... Essentially question again? What's it like being... Essentially, yeah. What's it like? I think it's different than when you're one of the only women
Starting point is 00:52:56 at the gym among a bunch of dudes. I think everyone's fairly well behaved. There's obviously a lot of dong talk a lot of dicks but honestly if it was just if it was just ladies in the group and like a couple of dudes there would probably still be a dong and dick talk so um we just need more canadians that's all yeah a lot less dick talk don't turn all those cocks out uh who's running water right now it's not me that's gone now i assumed it was you because you got the full house but maybe not no no it's all right it was fixed um well you really used your druthers on that one.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And, you know, I appreciate that. And it's like, I do kind of like to think that there's a few of us in there that if something does lean towards the inappropriate, I think there's a couple of us that have come in and been like, yeah, we're not going to do that right now. I don't think that there's something that's ever said that's inappropriate because there are ladies present. Yeah. I mean, in general. Because maybe that's just, like, a dick thing to say generally, not because of the company. I have noticed
Starting point is 00:54:13 that at times, if new people join the Discord, and this is just over the past year, not just, like, recently, but, and this happened when I first joined, too, that when people join join they don't really know the vibe and maybe people talk or start you know messaging before they understand the vibe of the group and how we're just here to be silly gooses we're not doing political stuff we're not
Starting point is 00:54:40 doing whatever um so sometimes somebody will post something and then it's, and I'm like, Oh, what we do here. But, and I keep waiting to see if somebody else will respond. And then it's just crickets. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:54:55 cool. And then we just all move on. Like no one acknowledged that. Yeah. Yeah. There was some of that in our, our crew chat the other day, I think.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And I just like down, like some new guy just started saying some rhetoric bullshit. And I was like, Oh, downvote that. Yep. Yep. Next.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Well, that's fun. Thanks for that insight. I would never know that. Cause I have never asked before. Keith, what's our next segment? Do we have anything going yet?
Starting point is 00:55:24 Uh, got a couple more questions. So here we go. Would you go Washington? Keith, what's our next segment? Do we have anything going yet? Got a couple more questions. So here we go. Would you go Washington Nationals, Iowa Hawkeyes? You can only go to one game for the rest of your life. Washington Nationals. Okay. It's good to know.
Starting point is 00:55:43 It's because I live in D.C. and I never actually went to University of Iowa. Got it. I was going to say that's a to know. And then because I live in D.C. and I never actually went to University of Iowa. Got it. It's like that's nearby. Yeah. So we got some I'm sure, you know, I got a lot of feedback from your friend Susan. So she gave me as much, you know, general topic stuff that she knew from you. So that's kind of how we built our interview questionnaire. But yeah, no, if nothing else is jumping out at you, I mean, I can, we can shoot a couple more of these out or we can jump into silly question. It really doesn't matter to me. Actually, I'm curious about this. And this is one that kind of stuck out to me. So your softball team,
Starting point is 00:56:16 you played in college. Do you want to tell you like a two minute story of how you transitioned that from a club to actual D3 program? Is that something that was pretty cool? I mean, I was intrigued by that. So I would like to hear minute story of how you transition that from a club to an actual D3 program? Is that something that was pretty cool? I mean, I was intrigued by that. So I would like to hear that story. Yeah. So I played softball through, you know, all of my youth, I suppose, through high school. I think I threw out my shoulder my senior year of high school. And then in college, I didn't go to play softball. Like I wasn't that good. And the college that I went to did not have a softball team, which was very interesting because it was a women's college. So you would think they would at least have a softball team.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So some other ladies, we just all started talking about how we used to play softball. We wanted to play softball. We got together, realized we had a softball, we had a pitcher, catcher, third baseman, first baseman, some outfielders. And we're like, we can make this work. So started just like an intramural team. like an intramural team. We started playing some local, like I want to say like junior high and high school teams that would play us like a scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And eventually, you know, over the years, like we ended up getting a coach my junior year, maybe. The college helped with, and then by my senior year, we became division three. But I threw my shoulder out again because I was a pitcher. That will do terrible things to your shoulder. Has that affected your powerlifting career? Like, do you go out of your way to use a Duffalo and an SSB
Starting point is 00:57:56 and whatnot regularly since you've got a pre-existing shoulder issue? I don't know if you'd call it my powerlifting career. I mean, we're all powerlifting. No, I don't think so. I haven't had any particular issue. When I use dumbbells every now and then, I get concerned that my shoulder will pop out because it's done that a few times. But that hasn't happened in many years.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Good to know. I'm glad. That was actually a pretty cool story. That was one of the main things that kind of stuck out when I was reading through the data that I got from your friend. So, well, if there's no other questions we want to get into, I guess it's time to move into one of our
Starting point is 00:58:40 favorite segments of the episode, and let's hear a silly question from Big Joey. You know, I almost didn't have one. Oh, man. Well, that would have left me hanging. Talking to Big Nerf has made me a little nervous because Big Nerf makes me laugh a lot on Instagram
Starting point is 00:58:58 and I wanted to have something good. So I don't know if I have anything that great, but it was a weird thing I thought about on the way to work today. Okay. If you could have an eye anywhere else on your body, where would you put that eye and why? I got one. This is,
Starting point is 00:59:21 this is, that's what I do. Everything that kind of, I always have like weird angles on this, but so I was doing some electrical work the other day at work. I was doing electrical the other day and I literally couldn't see what I was working on. I had to basically clip a wire back into a hole and I couldn't see it.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So I had, I got my phone out and I turned it on video and because I was able to get my lens, the screen of my camera up into the cavity that I was trying to work on and see. And then I was able to thread the wire into where it needed to go using the camera on my phone. So if I had an eye on one of my fingertips, I could have stuck my fingertip eye up in that area and then saw exactly what I needed to see. So that'd be kind of cool. I just don't know how that would correlate other you know just say like like you have to wipe with one hand for the rest of your life oh yeah i
Starting point is 01:00:10 mean yeah so yeah i guess i'll i'll get a patch you know a turlet patch a black finger condom like you had to wear if you work in a kitchen or something on it and you had a you know a band-aid oh man that does uh kind of throw a wrench in my logic i don't know what else are you gonna put on your fucking forehead though and just have that like i mean you almost have to i think the right answer might just be like somewhere no one can see it so it's not you're not weird and like you know have this weird anomaly on your body that you're judged by. So I guess it's a matter of are you so vain you don't want it to be seen,
Starting point is 01:00:51 or do you want to take advantage of it somehow and be able to make – how could you make money off of it? What could you add that you could actually capitalize? I don't know. I just think pragmatically of how I would make my life easier, and if I could see out of my finger and put it in weird places, that'd be cool. I agree. But still, interfering with – It came down to capitalism. How do I make see out of my finger and put it in weird places, that'd be cool. I agree. But still. It came down to capitalism.
Starting point is 01:01:08 How do I make money off of this? I have a follow-up question. Okay. Interesting, because I'm not expecting that. So, an eye, just like the other two, that I can see from,
Starting point is 01:01:23 is it the same size? Or it will scale down or up? You have your druthers. Okay. Can others see it if it was so small? But would it be effective if it was that small? I don't know. The human body has limitations.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I think it'd have to be visible to be functional. It'd have to be the size of your pinky at the smallest to still be functional in any way, shape, or form, I'd say. Do others have this, or am I just unique? Well, let's assume others have it. Makes me not special, though.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Because if no one else had one, I would definitely want to hide it so that I would very sneakily look at people that they wouldn't know. Good. Spy. I like that. I don't want to become like an elaborate. Find my superpower. Which is your random eye that only can see. And I blink it separately?
Starting point is 01:02:27 I'm not connected. I'm not thinking this through. I mean, initially I was thinking, like, on my palm just for, like, creeping purposes. Yep. That's the first place I thought to.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Like, that dude from um, come on, I'm's the first place I thought to. Like that dude from... Come on, I'm doing the thing. Yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. Pan's Labyrinth. Yes. Yeah, that was kind of cool. But also like clapping, lifting, like dead lifting with your eye.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I don't know. Does it hurt? Does it? I would imagine. Because if you drop the bar on your face it hurts your eyes so i assume that grabbing the bar with your eyes would also hurt but i assume you could like patch it up but it's got an eyelid too you would think like you can't have an eye without eyelids so you could just close your eyelids so that's why if i look at it as like being on my the tip of my finger if i just you know squint with the tip of
Starting point is 01:03:23 my finger then it's closed i mean it'd more, more fragile, but it could still be closed. So you could technically make it somewhat not obvious unless you open your, you know, third eyelid. Such a random question. I love how you can see in a different direction that would be more helpful. I'm like on your hand, then you could put it wherever, but that has downsides, because maybe you don't want to see everything, touch everything with your eye. So, like, maybe on the back of your neck situation. That'd be cool, too.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I've got my head clear. I guess I'm going to go with the back of my neck, just to, like, see behind me for, you know, the other direction birds may be coming. I like that answer. That's a really good answer. But I also like the idea of concealing it somewhere so that no one's really seeing it.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Just put your hair down. Yeah. I think it's true. That was actually my answer. Back of my head, back of my neck. Just kind of a hidden eye there that I could just randomly open just to make sure I wasn't getting snuck up on. I thought about the palm thing too. because that would just be cool for like,
Starting point is 01:04:30 like, look at me, I'm a walking tool video. Like that would be really fun to mess around with, but I don't think it would be very pragmatic. All right. That's my silly question. Came up with that on the way to work today. They never disappoint. It does give me, do do you so you really like you have what's the earliest you've had a silly question because every time you tell me like i just thought about this morning i thought about an hour it gives me anxiety that like we've had a week and like this kid's just like just now getting a silly question so like is it just straight up like it's podcast day let me think of a silly question you don't like nothing jumps out at you in the seven days leading up to it that you just kind of like put in your notepad sometimes yes uh some of them the night before some of them maybe one or two
Starting point is 01:05:09 days before but again i'm i'm not like super planning like you two into data and all that i don't i don't do that i find that um allowing things to come to me naturally has made for much more interesting things. I like the silly questions and always doing follow-ups to clarify. I have a friend who does similar questions. And I think our favorite one to date was the question, are there more chairs than people? And that led into a whole conversation of how do you define chairs? Do you mean people ever? Do you mean chairs ever?
Starting point is 01:05:50 Like, oh, my God. It turned into a very fun, like, three-hour conversation around a bonfire one night. You can keep that one for another time. I'm going to be thinking about that the rest of the damn episode. Because now I've already run through every different scenario that i could deep dive into holy shit because is a pew a chair is a bench a chair is yeah or what about like seats in a car yeah like you know how many big buses there are which seats in them like like auditoriums like 30 000 people die and reuse the same seats. I don't know. Well, if you look at the...
Starting point is 01:06:26 I mean, mathematically, that would be an easy question to answer because mathematically, there's more dead people than there ever has been alive people. So we would just be overrun with chairs if there were more chairs than people. So if you're talking specifically alive, then that gets harder to prove. Yeah, it's got to be alive people versus
Starting point is 01:06:46 chairs. If you want to talk people ever versus chairs ever, we would just be overrun with chairs. Because chairs don't go away. You can burn chairs. I don't think there's enough people. I know I can. I have. I just don't think there's enough people doing it.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Anyway. It can go down a lot of revenue. Oh god, I'm'm gonna think about that all night you fucked my whole night up because now i'm gonna be thinking about that i'm gonna be anxiously thinking about that all night good he's gonna go count all the chairs in his house how many people have sat in these well yeah he's gonna do a spreadsheet he's gonna make a spreadsheet perf i do love spreadsheets well i have three benches right next to me and if that's considered a chair i could sit four people on each bench.
Starting point is 01:07:25 So that's, Jesus, like that's a lot. I don't think it's considered a chair unless it has a back. So you're saying a bar stool is not a chair? A stool is not a chair? No, it's a stool. That's why it's called a stool, not a bar chair. Semantics. It's language.
Starting point is 01:07:42 A platypus isn't a beaver duck. It's a platypus. It exists on its own by name. So you guys say it exists. I don't believe it. You know, that's actually a conspiracy theory. That they aren't actually real. That they're not real and scientists are just making it up to steal funding from things.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I love cats. Oh. I'm assuming they're the cats. So Big Mer's cat just climbed up on her and kind of clawed her old body. So watching her reaction to getting spiked was kind of amusing. I'm assuming they're siblings from the same litter. They look identical, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Nice. Well, do you guys want to dive into some overrated, underrated this week? Sure. I dove into this blueberry pomegranate thing, and I'm glad I did. This is so good. Nice. I switched over to McUltra a little bit ago, and I just smashed my second. I think I'm going to have to switch to water because I'm still thirsty.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Unlike Joey, I am not overhydrated today. I did not drink enough at work, and it was like 90 degrees. Oh, it was a hot one today. For sure. All right. Big Murph, are you familiar with Overrated Underrated? It's a game that we invented ourselves on the Unpaid Underrated Podcast. It has never existed in eternity until Joey and I came up with it together.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Luckily, I've listened to this podcast before that is good because it would be the only place you would ever hear it uh all right so do you want to go over the rules big joy yeah i can work those through uh essentially we're going to give you a list of hand-picked big murph big christina murph items and you have to pick whether one is... I know, that was weird. That felt weird. I saw your face there when I said Christina Murph, and it's just like... Anyway, big Murph.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And they are... Essentially, you have to pick overrated or underrated. You cannot ride the line. You do have to pick one or the other. You cannot ride two horses with one ass. Okay. I think mine was one of the first ones I'm going to put out there. Overrated, underrated, elevator selfies.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Obviously underrated. The lighting is exquisite. Um, you can weird out other people on the elevator. If you go that route, I have not. Um, but it's just great lighting and it's a nice little reminder. If your elevator is on the way to work, um, then it helps you to just feel like, and people don't even know, but I was benching whatever weight this morning, and it's a nice little pump-up for your day, just a little flex in the elevator. We call that the god lighting, right? The lighting that's just above you coming down.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, it contours perfectly. Yeah, I feel you on that one. Yeah, we always appreciate seeing this on the gram. It always inspires me to go get a little pump in. I'll do the first three, I think. We'll kind of split this fitty-fitty. I switched the second one. Feel free to keep it original if it didn't update or not.
Starting point is 01:10:59 It's something she had already hit on, so it was kind of pointless. Overrated or underrated, Candice Bergen from Murphy Brown. And Saturday Night Live. It's been a long time. I'm thinking of, at this point, what's rated I guess I'll go with underrated
Starting point is 01:11:35 just because I feel like they're probably half the people in the discord at this point that have no idea oh yeah at least, I'd say. But just for clarity, Murphy Brown, that's what I think. If I was to think of a Murphy that
Starting point is 01:11:52 wasn't Big Murph, it's got to be Murphy Brown. Am I alone there? Murphy Brown is like... I think Eddie Murphy, I was called Charlie Murphy all through high school because that was like Chappelle Show days. So I'd walk in the room and it'd be like, Charlie Murphy. high school because that was like Chappelle show days. So I'd walk in the room and it'd be like, Charlotte Marfay. I'm looking up something here. I'm looking up something
Starting point is 01:12:11 here. See if I was wrong. Oh, for her actual name? Because you threw me for a loop and you said like the actress's name and I'm like, I don't, I know Murphy Brown. No, no, it's Candice Bergen. gotcha he might not be looking something else right but uh but why he does that it is crazy how young some of the discord crew is like i get people in there that there's like
Starting point is 01:12:35 literal teenagers in there that just like i don't know any teenagers like that's crazy like teenagers i think one that like said they were a teenager followed me on instagram and their account is like private so i have to request to follow them back and i was like i don't know bud like yeah i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna request to follow a teenager i don't feel weird i don't know so no offense if you're listening that i just i don't know i don't know. So no offense if you're listening. I just... I don't know. I don't want to show up on Goob. Bring it back to the beginning.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Maybe through the Discord if more people know people. Alright. So this one comes from our friend Big Jen. A friend of the podcast. Has come up quite a few times. Overrated or underrated?
Starting point is 01:13:28 I don't know what this means. Half smokes. Oh, my goodness. Well, especially if you don't know what they mean, then underrated. Is everything going to be underrated? They are delicious. It's similar to a hot dog, but better.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I don't know if this means that Jen has come to D.C. or if she... Big Jen, excuse me. Sorry, when you say Jen, i have no clue who you're talking about say big jen then oh yeah yeah i know yeah so um it's like a pork and beef you know a pork and beef like sausage situation what kind of toppings would go on it like like sell it to us like tell like we have eyes i'm completely lost and other than hot dog that's pork and beef so What kind of toppings would go on it? Sell it to us. We have eyes. I'm completely lost other than hot dog with pork and beef.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Well, so it varies. Sometimes you'll get it with chili on top. But it really varies. I mean, you can get whatever you want on it, just like with a hot dog. So it's a form of worst. It's some form of bratwurst that's made specifically a regional
Starting point is 01:14:46 type thing. D.C. is popular at one particular location. Ben's Chili Bowl is known for their half smokes. There are a number of smokehouses in D.C. that have
Starting point is 01:15:01 half smokes. So because so many people are unfamiliar, they have to be underrated. Otherwise, we'd all be flying out there to get them. You're pretty good. Alright, that's a couple of mine. Big Keith, you want to take up the next? Yeah, so I got one.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Okay, so this is one that I've seen come up in the past. I always make me chuckle. USPA's ability to handle Washington, D.C.'s state records for powerlifting. I assume USPA is similar to...
Starting point is 01:15:39 Or was it USPA? Okay. You did a meet where... I did a meet with USAPL. Okay. So what I said would make it USAPL? Okay. Maybe it was at USA... You did a meet where... I did a meet at USAPL. Okay, so what I said, make it USAPL. Sorry. That's fair. Although, these days, probably not.
Starting point is 01:15:54 But, yeah, USAPL, like, they knew I was a DC lifter, and they posted me as a Maryland, because they don't separate out DC. So they just start like, pretend you're still with Maryland. Did you guys not win a war or something
Starting point is 01:16:12 to separate those two? No, it was very complicated. I thought everything you guys did down there was from a war. So I got the North and South Dakotas. That's why you got the... Sorry, that was a little but um just let some overrated nonsense i guess overrated to say that it's like bad um but just because i don't think maryland wants dc dc doesn't want maryland don't lump us in i get we're not that state but i've been waiting go ahead i've been
Starting point is 01:16:47 waiting three weeks actually i'll just jump in there sorry keith i saw you i twitched there uh three weeks and they still haven't updated my open power lifting three weeks i did my and i had to email the meet director because they only updated the maryland ones so me and another guy who i knew was a virginia lifter um we had both competed at that meet and i was like hey am i good did your shit ever get on or no maybe it wasn't open powerlifting it was on the wrpf like federal state records um that those were never posted so we had to follow up with the meet director to get those posted. But they went on a good powerlifting pretty.
Starting point is 01:17:29 They haven't even put my OPL up. It was a few weeks. I'm not even up there at all. Also, interesting. Did you guys see Big Jess at the IPF Worlds recently? Oh, I think I watched all of IPF Worlds. Okay. Did you catch the now famous typo? Somebody in the Discord put about it.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Yeah. Powerlifting? Was that on the main one or just on the side? Because there was multiple... Were there multiple platforms or just a one platform meet? I can't even remember. So literally one banner for a huge ipf meet at the fuck because i was listening to two-way lights and they did make fun of they
Starting point is 01:18:09 they made jest of something about an error on the banner but i didn't put it together so that's that's actually really funny how are you up well it's real easy when you're the world's biggest power lifting but they're not federation power lifting powerlifting powerlifting that's pretty good alright big MRF underrated or overrated the MRF workout the CrossFit workout
Starting point is 01:18:34 the MRF that comes from Coach Karp yes it does big Coach Karp I don't want to insult it's the workout not the man that it's based off of so don't want to insult the it's the workout not the man that it's based off of so don't be you don't have to
Starting point is 01:18:50 pull your punches because he's not going to be offended well then fuck that crossfit nonsense absolutely all due respect never I'm never going to I'm never going to kip up anything I don't care what you say I'm not doing burpees I'm not doing kip up anything. I don't care what you say. I'm not doing burpees. I'm not doing kip up anything.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Well, actually, at the meet, I made a joke about doing kip up deadlifts. And everybody looked at me like I was insane. And that just made me feel better that, like, yeah, you're right. That does sound stupid. And you just kind of look at him for a second. It's still, like, much more athletic than, like, their skills. I get it. It's just, for me me it's overrated um and
Starting point is 01:19:27 i'm really over all of the jokes i've heard about doing mirth cool cool i didn't even go there with that yeah y'all did it but so every year when that comes around i'm like oh it's like me on april 1st i'm not opening social media on this day because i've already seen it all coming all right i get it i get it right and let's go to the last one big murph this is for all the marvels you will be entirely judged for you know your entire appearance on the episode based off this answer. Overrated or underrated? Company, gyms. The gym at work.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Overrated. I think for legal reasons they can never put in a proper rack. They can't have good equipment. No one's going to treat things well. You're just there to kill time before after or during work and it's very weird to be in the locker room with people that you may be in a meeting with later you're like oh no don't don't change here i have to see you in like 45 minutes
Starting point is 01:20:40 this is too weird so overrated for many reasons. That actually came from the Instagram handle Band of Druthers. Oh my. Which was one of the potential names for this podcast. Until we find out somebody else already has it. I think we should at some point do a segment where we just read some of the hilarious puns. You should get Band of Druth band of like the actual band of druthers yeah and just and ask them who do they think they're like a band in seattle or something yeah bring them on who do you think the original one because no not the instagram one we'll get
Starting point is 01:21:18 we'll get them on eventually well yeah but bring the actual band on They have no clue what's coming. So we spoke to your wife, and we want to know. They're going to be like, what? What? Honestly, that is one of my favorite parts, though. Just randomly DMing the guests, friends, or significant other of some sort, whoever they're comfortable with us reaching out to. That's been my favorite part, just diving in with the guests,
Starting point is 01:21:49 whoever they feel comfortable letting us get information from like who else could do that though i do feel that that's like um crew privilege but i don't think you've ever been a part of a podcast where somebody messaging your wife to ask questions because like um so for my birthday scantz sent me deadlift slippers because my wife reached out to him and asked him. And then at some point, somebody sent me some cigars. I won't mention any names in case they want to stay private, but they're from the crew. And I don't know how they got my address, but I assumed it was from my lab. This all seems like Canadian cuteness right now. But no, because Keith reaches out to people,
Starting point is 01:22:25 significant others and friends all the time. My wife like messages, scans to send me these flippers. Very nice. It was, it's just, I think it's weird for Keith. Like when Keith goes,
Starting point is 01:22:37 well, I reached out to their significant other and all of us are like, as one does, but like, you shouldn't do that in real life. If this was anything else, you would never do that. But in defense in our defense like we're not interviewing people that have that like we followed an insta i mean well yes we're all friends and shit but like there's only
Starting point is 01:22:56 so much information we know about fellow crew like once we get through the first 10 people like i don't know shit about a hundred people that are discord members that we will interview at some point so like it has to be like granted like we're not we're not they're not food speeding us the questions and then i'm just regurgitating that like we're putting our own spin on them and all that but like we don't we only know so much and if i only if the if the entire podcast was based off what we knew about the person we talked for a half hour to be over and then what fun is that so we gotta have the the zingers and when we went up we kind of didn't really have one this week because we kind of only had access to your
Starting point is 01:23:28 friend but uh getting the the really like childhood shit like that and then watching their face when we asked that random question you know like that's that's what i've heard i think we both enjoy joey and i both really enjoyed that so i'm gonna keep doing it so if you are a potential podcast the guest just you know warm your sydney event other that I will be sliding in those DMs. Did you hear Foon speeding Murph? What? Did you hear him say Foon speeding? Oh, did I misspeak?
Starting point is 01:23:54 Damn it. I didn't even register. Oh, he said, I'll be Foon speeding people. And I was like, is that from Star Wars? I don't know what. No, that was the two beers and the slip of the tongue there. Oh, I just moved on to a Keats.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Do you have Keats in Washington? You guys are kind of close to our border, ain't you? No. I thought I was bad at geography. Washington's not close. Yeah. Washington, D.C. Oh, wow. No, you're on the west side aren't you
Starting point is 01:24:28 is this a bit fucker sorry I'm not going to Washington that's funny so but I'll bring I'm gonna bring a two for a Keats by the way
Starting point is 01:24:43 just to spread the Canadian love. And also so me and Scantz have something to get drunk on. I think I'm also going to have to check a bag to just bring some booze that I want to share with people. I know. I'm going to have, like when we're checking across the border, it's going to be like, do you have anything to declare? I have three cases of Keats and four cases of President's Choice sparkling water. I'm excited for some sparkling water. I am excited to bring some President's Choice if you actually are able to get that across.
Starting point is 01:25:12 That's that good stuff. That's the good stuff everybody's been looking for. It's the good Canadian stuff. Now, is it more that it's like more than just a hint of flavor or that the flavors are really good? The flavors are really good and exactly what they're supposed to be so they're not essenced they're not like lacroix but like when i drank the root beer when the root beer one's my favorite because i love root beer pop but i don't want the sugar uh pop means uh soft drink to any american people who don't know that um soft drink soda
Starting point is 01:25:43 pop but it just it just it's my favorite and it just tastes like that but with none of the sugar so pc just really nailed that they have a ginger ale one the orange creamsicle one there was another one that my wife drank for a little bit that she really liked and i just don't remember what it was but it's like pc it just figured it out tonight i just don't remember what it was but it's like pc it just figured it out whereas bubbly is like we're gonna make pineapple pc was like no orange vanilla creamsicle and it tastes like that hold up is pop and soda a regional thing in canada as well no no uh most of us call it pop. I tend to say soda just because I have been talking to Americans for quite some time in my life. So sometimes I just know not to say pop. And the one time I went to Oz Fest in Detroit and ordered a pop and they looked at me like I was insane.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Like I was just the most insane human she's ever seen. I went like a soft drink like a pepsi like give me something so ever since then i kind of just sometimes i'll do soda i'm gonna go get a soda and then all my canadian friends look at me funny i use them interchangeable at this point i i work at this i've lived in new york i've lived up here for 15 years now uh and i know when i grew up i called it something and now we call it something else up here for 15 years now. And I know when I grew up, I called it something. And now we call it something else up here. Like, like what I called it in West Virginia and what we call it in New York.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Don't there are the opposite, but I'm so far removed from like remembering or caring. Like, I don't remember if I called it soda or pop as a kid and like people looked at me funny up here, but now I just, I don't know. I just,
Starting point is 01:27:19 I drink diet Coke and fucking sparkling water. I don't even, I don't ever say like soda or pop really. It's not like a term I heard to ever use anymore. I'm a sody pop. I've got some iron brew iron sody would get you some weird looks if you said sody i think a sody pop sody would definitely uh get you a weird look so all right uh big mark before we get in and handing you over the reins i got one of the guest questions that i did want to touch base on real quick. Are you still an active D&D player and are you still a LARPer? That was the facial expression
Starting point is 01:27:54 I was waiting for. I didn't get that with any of the other questions. How dare you? Well, there's a factual inaccuracy. I have an issue with the premise. Yes, I still play dnd um we i meet weekly bi-weekly it depends on availability um a lot of friends have kids now so that complicates schedules because everyone gets sick and stuff but But, yep, I still play.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And I haven't been playing forever. My partner has played for a long time. He's a much bigger nerd than me, but I enjoy it. I like to play. LARPing. I have not been a LARPer. LARP, live-action roleplay. But I do... I'm LARP adjacent, I would say.
Starting point is 01:28:49 What? LARP essence. I'm LARP, like... All right. So... So a week after the Lift Hard and Live Easy Classic, I will be going to a two-week long, kind of like a medieval war scenario.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Oh, hell yeah. Sounds cool. It's a reenactment. It's in rural Pennsylvania. It's not a reenactment. Okay. It is a group of people. It is a gigantic group of people.
Starting point is 01:29:24 I don't know what it's like post pandemic but around 10,000 people form a shanty town essentially in rural Pennsylvania it's much more intense and then there become gigantic
Starting point is 01:29:40 battlefields where mostly dudes but an increasing number of women dress up in medieval armor and hit each other. So it's LARPing. You're going to a LARP fest. I do not do it with lighting.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Oh. Because I have a history of migraines, so I can't get hit, so it's not really fair for me to be like, don't hit me, but I get to hit you. Well, can't you just stand off the side and shoot lightning bolts yeah so it's no it's actually like people get hurt there's a number of people that go to the er every battle yes of course they do but uh i will be dressing in a garb of some sort and then drinking around a lot of fires mostly for two weeks and this garb
Starting point is 01:30:26 and this garb is something that you sewed yourself supposedly some of them I have yeah that's pretty cool they look like shit so you would say you're LARPish LARPish LARPish
Starting point is 01:30:40 but I don't like do things like in character we don't do things in character. My group doesn't call anyone m'lady. Oh, yeah. That's the good one. Or bow to a knight or queen or whatever. It's not really our thing.
Starting point is 01:30:57 But yeah, I will be LARP adjacent and drinking off the grid for a couple weeks. That sounds awesome. Speaking of adjacent, literally it's my last size hand drink and we'll hand it over to the big bar. Is this one more thing? One more. It's like the Colombo thing.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Just one more thing. Now you got me. Speaking of something adjacent, in Joey's story this week, it kind of summed up our podcast perfectly to me and it's kind of i actually to where i sent it to a couple of my friends he referenced our podcast as a comedy podcast that is fitness adjacent and that just like that resonated so
Starting point is 01:31:36 like yeah like i didn't know that's what i wanted it but like that's basically like yeah like i want it to be funnier more than Powerlifting E. I think we succeeded. I strive to succeed with that each week. I think we did. I really liked how we got it recorded. That was my one last thing. I don't remember saying that.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I think it was in your story when you were basically... Oh, yeah. When I was promoting last week's. It was pushing Big Mofo's podcast with the link or whatever. Alright. Go me. You were...
Starting point is 01:32:13 Joey got a big shout out on the GoHunt. There you go. That's pretty impressive. Big Murph, did you prepare anything for Joey and I to stump us? You got anything up your sleeve? Up your wizard sleeve, if you will? Other than how I ruined your evening with the chair person situation. Oh, Jesus, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Please don't ask me that question. No. Well, first I wanted to ask Joey, and I probably could have just messaged you about this, but are you familiar with the show that's no longer on but under a rock with take nataro i do know take nataro but i don't know the show right well take is lovely but yes she may she has a show uh take it is notoriously unaware completely oblivious of celebrity um doesn't watch movies tv doesn't know things and so there was this she had a hosted a show where they would bring on a celebrity and she would interview them to try to figure out who the
Starting point is 01:33:10 fuck they were and like ask questions anyways i thought it seemed like a something you would be interested in and maybe you don't even know who she brings on either no it's unlikely so like okay when it comes to like fit fluencers i don't have any patience for them so i don't like follow them uh some of these big lifter people the only reason i know about most of them is the podcast or the arnold yeah and it's just because like i don't i don't need to know. I don't. You're probably cool. But, like, yeah, you can live to 1,000 pounds. Like, what else do I care about you? And then you follow them and all their stories are just, like, usually weird.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Like, just weird stuff I don't want to know about other humans who I only followed because they lift heavy. But they have 8,000 stories a day. You're like. Yeah. Like, it just is so much. who I only followed because they lift heavy. So like 8,000 stories a day. You're like, yeah, like it just is so much. And then like, I won't, I won't mention any names and it's just like,
Starting point is 01:34:12 like I'll follow you. And then you're all your stories are really shitty political takes. Like just like middle school level knowledge of politics. And I'm like, well, I'm not following you like this is i don't need to see this type of stuff read a book so like it's just not fair but when it comes to like um i also have this other weird uncanny ability to recognize voice actors
Starting point is 01:34:37 so we'll be watching something and i'll like a cartoon my wife will be watching some anime or some american made and i'll go oh yeah that sounds like and i'll just a cartoon my wife will be watching some anime or some american made and i'll go oh yeah that sounds like and i'll just name like three other shows that that person's been in she'll google it and go like it's not fair how do you do that but it's it's only voice actors i can name like the um the harley quinn show that just came out that was just released the one that's like rated r or whatever like swearing and and adult themes and stuff i was able to name two or three of the people in that show just in the first episode so that was and that's that's kind of crazy so celebrities i think i would kind of do
Starting point is 01:35:17 better anybody in the fitness world no don't know don't care yeah the fitness world i think um world no don't know don't care yeah the fitness world i think um i've sort of prided myself on weeding out some nonsense that i followed at one point because i'll see people complaining about a trend um and i'm like i've never seen that i don't know what the fuck you're talking about like when people are talking about like the broccoli hair and the earring i'm like i've only ever heard of that from the people i know follow that i follow who are complaining about all that but then i did in the wild but then i went to the arnold and i saw it i i saw the cross chain in the mouth broccoli haired sumo lifter doing three plates like it was the end of their life and i was just like i even i think i said to kevin
Starting point is 01:36:05 and nate that exists i thought that was a made-up boogeyman but it's here with us now good i guess we all live in our own bubbles but well some people choose to live in a bubble of hate where they they because we all do we all live in a bubble that's just the essence of our subjective view of the world objectivity is a lie it doesn't exist get over it subjectivity is the only thing that influences you because every decision you've made and how you look at things including the way your eyes see as the results of things that happened before that moment there is no objectivity everything is subjectivity so we all live in our own little bubble he's pointing with his finger as though he
Starting point is 01:36:51 has his third eye yes so like like i everybody chooses their little bubble some of us choose to live in a bubble of positivity where i don't need to know all these people because all they want to do is hate on other people. Right? This bubble idea leads into my general question for both of you. Okay. Thank you for cutting me off because I would have went on forever about that. Joe is getting political. Are either of you familiar with the concept of the specialness spiral?
Starting point is 01:37:27 No. So I had not heard of it until recently. I heard it on a place, a location, an audio recording that may exist somewhere that doesn't actually exist. So there is this researcher talking about what they called a specialness spiral. And it's sort of about how we make ordinary things feel like treasures because we hoard them or make we save them for special occasions. buying really nice spices and then bringing them home and deciding not to use them until there was like a special meal until the right guest was over and each time she decided not to use them it made them more special like they were being reserved for something more worthy grandma's china yep so it's a specialness spiral where like the more you don't use it the
Starting point is 01:38:25 more special it gets so i mentioned that the discord a while back that i have accidentally been hoarding ammonia and so i think i have this specialty spiral with obsidian ammonia specifically because that's just what i've purchased and And I feel like I save the sniffs for when I need them. And each time that I like tell myself, I don't need that. I'm fine. I'll use that when I really need it. And then I don't know when that time actually exists. I'm just never using ammonia. So I'm wondering whether in the lifting context or otherwise like what are you hoarding or what are you what is your specialty spiral like are you reserving like a special bar a sandbag chalk for me chalk is also another one like I don't need it until a certain weight
Starting point is 01:39:18 um so I'm like hoarding these things and then I'm like I should use them like what are we holding on to it for so i'm just curious about if there's like a lifting related specialty spiral that you have i got one so i've got well i mean a lot of what you hit on like certain bars putting chalk on like all that yeah like there's shit that i do that once i hit a certain way that i you know i implement these things in my training but specifically saving something for a special occasion if i was to like put that caveat on it to this if that's my interpretation on the special spiral i've got a pair of orange compression underwear that i you know they're my oldest pair of underwear like gym underwear i wear compression underwear in the gym and just cotton you know boxer briefs outside of the gym whatever but i they're they're like seven
Starting point is 01:40:02 years old so they're worn out and i only like wear and I don't want to overwear them. So I only wear them on like RP nine or 10 days. And it's just if I know I'm wearing my orange compression underwear, I know it's a big fucking heavy day. And like as goofy as it is, they just make me happy. You know, they're, you know, that's so that is something I definitely hoard because the more I wear them, the more I wash them, the more they get wore out. You know, their life expectancy shrinks every time I wear them. So it's kind of like they've got a finite amount of like maybe 50 more lifts in them. And then they're probably going to be like blown out of the seams completely.
Starting point is 01:40:31 So my orange compression Adidas underwear. That's fair. I have like sports bra that is my favorite sports bra, which you would think means that I would wear it the most or like as often as it's clean. But I don't. I like save it and then all of a sudden I've done laundry twice and I still haven't had to wash it because I haven't worn it. Anyways, it's weird the things our brains do.
Starting point is 01:40:56 But you feel stronger when you wear that sports bra, I bet. Yeah. I've got ammonia. I used to just go willy-nilly whenever I felt like I needed to pick me up. And now with ammonia, I opened up, I was saving. This is actually it. I was saving my Dakota breeze for my meat.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I haven't opened mine. And then one day I was like going through my box. I have a box of ammonia. I was like, no, I'm doing this one today. But like, I've only used it once. It's just going to go bad now. And I've only used it once because I'm not like,
Starting point is 01:41:32 I'm not pushing RPE, anything over RPE right now until my meat. And even my meat is like 90, 95% and they supplied the job. And I wish I had brought ammonia to that meat because all the money they had was old like we had to go digging through to find one that worked and i should have just
Starting point is 01:41:51 brought my own in my personal life i have a jacket from a brand that murph and i have both ordered from black craft coat and i wanted that jacket so bad and they released it with 30 off so i bought it and i've worn it all of once to my dad's funeral because it's a good looking jacket it's a trench coat like it's it's a gorgeously made jacket but i keep telling myself that i'm not dressed up enough to wear that anywhere yeah and I look a bit like a movie villain when I wear it, especially if I wear the circle glasses, like I just look like a nightmare. So it just sits there. And I paid $150 for this jacket that is just for the next special occasion. There are no special occasions. I'm going to gonna die everything should be a special occasion so i
Starting point is 01:42:46 think that was sort of like the point of the what the researcher was saying on this other audio platform that to to use them to to live your life to you know live easy and to embrace that and to not hoard the things that make you happy to save them for another time because you know they'll make you happy so go ahead and just experience that now. It's a little different with the underwear situation, Big Keith. That's fair. If they're going to wear out, maybe get some more.
Starting point is 01:43:16 If I could find the exact... That's the thing too with going back to clothes earlier. Manufacturers change shit every now and then. I can't find this pair of underwear because I did buy a new uh like three pack of adidas you know under armor what do you know uh you know uh spandexy underwear and they're like they don't even feel anywhere similar to the pair that i've had for like seven eight years so like yes you can buy you can you can replace it but no because it's not it doesn't feel the same
Starting point is 01:43:45 and as someone like me like ocd like hey i could fucking you know i can tell but i also have a bunch of masks a weird thing that i hoard is masks like halloween masks yep so right now behind me you guys can probably see the um this guy up here unfortunately if you're listening you can't see it um but it is essentially a what's that um it's a pig mask but it's made of burlap right it's got one eye missing and then uh bray wyatt a wrestler i have actually every mask he's ever released and i always i have them and they're all in like specific little bags or hanging somewhere. And I'm always like one day I'm going to do something with those. And I never do.
Starting point is 01:44:32 And you're judging me for being LARP adjacent. You're sitting over here. I have, well, my wife, my wife also hates really scary masks. And that's all I own are terrifyingly scary masks and i don't mean like gory because gory's not scary these are like ones that make you second guess yourself so she doesn't really like them so but yeah hey who made fun of you my wife wants me to play dnd one day i'm just not really interested to be honest with you one day i'm just not really interested to be honest with you sure one day i might be
Starting point is 01:45:13 i can really like the group dynamic can really make or break the whole experience so i think finding the right group of people and the right you know a leader can help would you would you do like what spoon did and start a podcast on no no is this the first podcast you've been on big murph yes nice i think we've yeah that's pretty cool uh i enjoyed that question that was fun i didn't really think i'm sure i could deep dive and think of more shit that i actually bored i'm sure there's things like there's certain there has to be like certain i bet there's a certain dish in my cupboard that like I only use for like special meals and stuff like there has to be I just you know nothing nothing's jumping out at me right now that's why I said it's that's why I said grandma's china right like that's the old the old joke is grandma has the china in the cabinet that we're going to use on a special occasion and never use it and then she dies and you get grandma's china and then you just never
Starting point is 01:46:09 use it or if you grew up with greek or or um or even portuguese parents i think you had that room that was for special use only do you guys know about that right or is that just me up here in canada that okay so there's like i don't have greek or portuguese like a dining room that you no it was it was particularly a living room that was off limits and i i do think this is a strictly mediterranean slash eastern european concept where you have um living room, but your living room is usually coated in plastic furniture. And you're just not allowed to go in there. You don't use that door. You don't sit in there.
Starting point is 01:46:53 That room is for special occasions. Then you had the other one, which was in my friends, was in the basement where they had the basement living room that everybody gathered in or the kitchen or the back room. And I'm not making this up. There's got to be other people. I definitely had friends who had grandparents whose houses you would go to and the couch is like in that like very thick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Yes. You don't know this is for like real guests and you're just children. Yeah. Family doesn't count. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Good. I was gonna say it. Don't sit on that one. No, this is for real guests, and you're just children. Family doesn't count. Yeah. Okay, okay, good. I was going to say, don't leave me hanging here. No, no, I just didn't think of it as a cultural thing
Starting point is 01:47:31 as much as a generational thing. Yeah, the concept of the furniture, for sure, I know about. But I didn't grow up fancy enough to have a second living room that we couldn't use because they were in the house. No, and I didn't have it, but it was mostly my friends that are from whose grandparents or parents were from that area because that was a sign of like i'm sorry i'm gonna say the phrase conspicuous consumption right it's this phrase this idea that we can afford this so we're going to show it off but we don't use it. Makes sense.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Well, Big Murph, did you have anything else you wanted to hit us with, or do you want to pull the trigger and bring it in for a landing? We're good either way. Yeah, I think we can bring it in. I don't have anything else, no. You only prepared
Starting point is 01:48:21 one. Well, two, I guess. There was two. I have others, but i feel like we already sort of touched on that's the hard part here like we i edited the overrated underrated a couple times because like there's shit that like once once we hit on like even if we don't intentionally hit on it like you volunteer the information and i'm like well that was going to be like two of the overrated underrateds and it's like do we ask again and then it's just like you know like ipas is one of the overrated underrated but you kind you kind of, you know, you mentioned your dislike of IPAs right off the bat, I believe, just in conversation. So it was like, there's no point.
Starting point is 01:48:50 That also came from Big Jen. I do like most of our overrated, underrated isn't from us. I do think I should, I appreciate that. I want to call people out. That's why I put their names on it when I add it there. But I guess I forgot on that one. But I do enjoy that aspect. Maybe going further,
Starting point is 01:49:07 we'll just keep a bigger list and cross them out as we talk about. That's true. We should maybe like prepare eight and then just carry. And then we'll, because inevitably there's be one or two that get nixed just by conversation. So maybe we'll work on that for next going forward. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:22 So where can they find us, Joey? You can find us at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast on Instagram, theunpaidinternpodcast.com. You can find me. I'm going to go first this time so that nobody sees me out first. At Joey underscore Malesko, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O.
Starting point is 01:49:41 You're probably already following me if you're listening to this, to be honest with you, because we are all crew. And you've got... I'm Big Keith, and I have been getting some new followers that have been crew-related, so keep it up, guys. So I am KeithHoneyKith73 on Instagram and TheNoWineSeller on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:50:00 What about you, Big Murph? Would you like them to follow you anywhere on your personal lifting, I'm assuming? Yes. My lifting Instagram is at ObserveMyExpansion. I love that. Where'd you come up with that at? Did you pull it out of your book?
Starting point is 01:50:16 There's a comic from Strange Planet. Jonathan Pyle, I think, is the we can i'll post a story with the with the original comic but they're always yeah i lifted discs they were heavy observe my expansion nice i love it and i actually have the that comic as a banner in my gym now. Genius. Genius.
Starting point is 01:50:49 You know what, guys? Again, we missed out on Big Matt Mostly Squad videos. I think it's because he's on vacation, though. We've been really trying to get him in on this, and we just can't seem to wrangle a good time to have him on. Hopefully it comes up soon, though, and I really hope he's enjoying his vacation out in the uk which i believe um big keith said he is yes he he corrected me that he wasn't in the uk but he didn't actually volunteer the information where he was so uh well so maybe he works for the league
Starting point is 01:51:17 of shadows as well it's very possible everyone's in cohorts all Alright, guys. Yeah, I mean, it's the same word. Everyone's in cohorts. Yeah, we are crew. Alright, guys. We will see you next Tuesday, boys. And ladies. And ladies, yes, ma'am. It is Dude is unisex.

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