Unpaid And Underrated - 008 : Our Founding CRÜ

Episode Date: July 4, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know our founding CRÜ member Big Scott Dodds. They dive into some great topics so make sure you take some time to listen to how Scott Dodds lauched the Massenomics Supporting Memebership Program. You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @scottdodds_doddzilla (https://www.instagram.com/scottdodds_doddzilla). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Scott.

all right everybody welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast this is episode six we are here live i am of course big joey i'm going to do your intro today and i am joined by my friend Big Keith. Howdy. And of course, Big Scott Dodds is here with us. What's up, number one? Number one. So I don't want to dive right in yet, so let's know, do some other stuff first.

I'm thirsty. I am going to dive right into that. I've been just itching for this drink all day. Scott, what are you drinking? I got a rain storm. It's like, like rain light, almost they're smaller can. And, uh, it's almost like, it's almost like a sparkling water enhanced. Have you had the, uh, the rain storms in their smaller can it's like like a sparkling water enhanced. Have you had the rainstorms in their smaller cans, like cleaner energy? I think I did. It actually says clean on it, right? I had one of those

at a commercial gym I went to as a pre-workout. I didn't even look to see the caffeine ratio. I assumed the fact that it was rain, it had to have like 100 milligrams or something, even in the smaller bottle. We are sitting at like 200. Oh, 200.

A regular is three. But, yeah, I work night shift. I want to get off the podcast today, heading into work. So, you know, starting early. Well, I am not working tonight, as Scott is, but I am on the road working. So I had limited uh options so i'm just had one last uh mandarin orange bubbly left or actually uh the wegmans that is so my old faithful i am um doing something new today i have vanilla cherry soda you're all about that vanilla

which is a sparking water i noticed when i I bought it, too, because I was like, I remember loving this. And I was like, damn, this is like my third vanilla in a week. And I think you've been upset with each time you've got the vanilla, right? No, the Dippa was good. But the Blueberry Whip wasn't. I have had this. This is PC. And this honestly just tastes like cherry vanilla Coke.

And it's fantastic. And we're going to get that crispy crack yeah buddy all right cheers guys cheers i should have packed my uh koozie like this sucks i don't want to hold this all night i have i noticed if i go camping or on vacation i don't have a koozie i start to get like weird like i'm touching my own can i hate this like i don't know why but i must have just conditioned myself that sounds like a good segment uh or a good news uh podcast bit joey touches his can you could you could do a blind can testing like the barbell test oh man that was such a good video i enjoyed the hell out of that the uh the the mass atomic youtube video that came out i think it so it we're basically going to cover two of their youtube

videos this week guys because i want to say that they're the then do you know your knurling shaft came out like thursday or friday so we had already recorded our episode with big merc last week uh so i really enjoyed the video where they had uh everyone down in the gym just rating the, you know, judging the knurling, trying to guess what it is. Like me and one of my crew buddies that works out with me on Sundays, we're definitely going to try that in the next couple of weeks whenever, you know, have kind of an easy training day probably after the meet. But I really enjoyed that concept. And I'm like curious of how many I would get because I think I would get like I'd be 80% or better, I think, on knowing all my barbells you you need to have a rule where you're not allowed to touch the center no i mean that would i feel like that narrows it down too easy yeah because you can decipher like even on a lot of the power bars like uh my new 29 has a wider uh center knurling than my 28.5 for the Texas power bar.

Speaking of 29 millimeter Texas power bars, big one of the hosts needs to go out and buy one because the gym is sorely missing one down there in Aberdeen. I have not watched that video or this week's video. I have not had... Wow. I would say I have not had a moment to sit and stare at a screen for longer than 10 minutes you don't take a poop man i gotta tell you this this week like i know sometimes we joke about the the podcast being our therapy but i uh my my limits

are being pushed this week mentally and physically. I'm still not healthy. You've been sick for a week, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm even sicker than I was last week. Like cold and flu or something? Yeah, Sunday it came to a head and I essentially was just out of it for three days. But still got to work and feed kids and be a dad and all that. So I just, I'm going to tell you right now, I've not watched anything. I'm even lucky I got through the podcast, but i just had to like drive a lot to do that so

yeah i'm gonna be honest with you i'm lucky where i can listen lucky i can listen to podcasts all night at work so that's nice yeah but i gotta say you guys sound like you're talking extremely slow right now i listen to i listen to many podcasts. I listen to 1.7 to two times speed on all my podcasts to get them in. You guys sound like you're taking forever right now. We are. We are being

extra. We're enunciating the flags. The flags. You are the first person to say that I talk slow, Scott, so I appreciate it. You should hear you at, the first person to say that I talk slow, Scott. So I, I appreciate it. Oh, you should,

you should hear you at two times speed. Oh Jesus. It's I, there has to be a limit where it's still legible for Joey and the other, for, for the guest. And I'm just like illegible there. I'm sure there has to be like a ratio. Cause I do talk 10,

15%, 20% faster than everybody else. It's like a chipmunks album. Oh, wow. That's old school there. Hey, what are you guys wearing? I'm wearing my old faithful bench heavy blue massonomic shirt. My favorite one, my best fitting one.

I hope the, you know, I nevermind. We'll get back to that. Scott is wearing actually one of my favorite things, but then something I've never seen before. So tell me about that. Well, I got the, I thought everyone was going to be wearing the Jefferson deadlift tee today because the contest.

So I went with the regular deadlift king of the lifts tee, but I have the one and only red lift hat. Yeah. Never seen that before. The deadlifter shirt is one of my favorites i think it fits the best if i slim down a little bit but um yeah it's a nice hat i'm gonna have to start poking some bears get that one out there it was several years i've been trying to get it released and uh just never felt never followed through with it but yeah it was several years ago

when they were a little bit smaller and still. And I said, hey, next time you guys put your order, can I get a red lift hat with black? And he's like, yeah, next time. I also got a red Masonomics logo hat with the black bill that you see Tanner wearing in the opening of the podcast video. I got that hat too, but nobody else has that. Very nice. Yeah, it's my competition hat.

I only break it out for competitions only and I figured the podcast today was a special enough occasion. We did it. We made it. We're a special enough occasion to break this specialty spiral. That's how I keep it nice, man. That's like four years old and it's still looking brand new because it gets

worn maybe three times a year. Well, speaking of the competition, where it looks like we're 23 days out from the meet and I'm, you know, really excited to go get my picture in front of the billboard. Like that's as corny as that sounds like that's going to be fun. Like my wife literally texted me today. She saw it on Instagram. She was like, so yeah, we'd not, we're not leaving Aberdeen. So we get a, you know, a photo with the, the billboard. And I was like, well, absolutely. And that's, that's gonna be fun like my wife literally texted me today she saw it on instagram she's like so yeah we're not leaving aberdeen so we get a you know a photo with the uh the billboard i was like well absolutely and that's that's the plan friday night i think that billboard

is going to be quite the destination spot for like everybody's in aberdeen is they have no clue what's going to happen to their city for three days just a bunch of silly gooses walking around taking pictures of rocks you need to get some traffic cones to stop traffic by the billboards. Get a police scam. What do they call it? Escort. Like some caution tape. Yeah, escort.

Get some caution tape around. The only way it would be better if the billboard was above the Qdoba rock that everyone drives over and gets teeter-tottered on i wonder if that rock has a massonomic sticker on it yet i think that might end up happening i think they should have like 20 of them by the time we leave sunday morning now if you're hoarding your stickers like uh everybody last week was talking about

well i am i actually just put some on my cooler today uh it's not my cooler it's my dad's and i asked him i was like hey i use this on the podcast can i put some stickers my cooler today. It's not my cooler. It's my dad's. And I asked him, I was like, hey, I use this on the podcast. Can I put some stickers? And he was like, yeah, I've got another one of those downstairs. So I just slapped like so many Mastanami stickers on it. There's three on there currently. So reaching back to that episode, I got a roll of like flexible magnet that I can put the stickers on and then I can actually cut it. So I cut out.

So I have several of the Mast'm a stickers now just on magnets all over the place. So yeah, you were the one that gave me that idea that I never went through with it. That was, that's the important part there. I said, that's a really good idea that I'm never going to do.

Instead, I'm going to just hold onto all of these in a bag in my, in my closet and just go through them whenever I think, man, I could really use a sticker right now. Get a binder like you're a little kid with baseball cards. Someone did post that. They did that. Was it one of the Davids, I think?

Someone in the Discord channel today literally posted their Masonomics, all their stickers, all their patches, all their cards, and literally the baseball card album. That hilarious yeah i i hope that they like at least display all the extras because that's kind of what i do like i i i have a bunch that i won't stick on anything but i still have displayed uh in mag in magnetic picture frames that are like on my wall with all my other gym pictures but then anything that i have like two or three of i'll put that on something the lift i have a shelf oh go ahead sorry the lift short sticker though

such high quality so there's one of those on the cooler and one of those on my yeti and i'm probably gonna end up having to get another one uh you're saying about your shelf oh i got a shelf um in the gym where i said that the top of it is just loaded with all the stickers so yeah now are you gonna be in aberdeen with us i'm not participating in the powerlifting meet i had uh i had four strongman competitions this year and uh just the way the way it fit in and yeah well i'm not participating but i'm going to party so like i'm just going to be there in the front row screaming up up because that's what you do at least designated back slapper yeah pretty much um but speaking of contests for the second time since

we've started um the jefferson deadlift con contest has started i just put my video up i was about to say i loved that that was so much fun um but do you think just like why would they do this right before the powerlifting meet so are they trying to like have us all extremely exhausted like like, doing these heavy Jefferson singles? Is this just part of peaking? Do you do Jefferson deadlifts for peaking? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Go ahead, Dutch. Go ahead, Dutch. I said I'm just, I'm glad I'm not the only one that kind of caught that. I was just, because, like, when I even, like, listened to the podcast a couple weeks ago when they gave us the dates, I must have, I think I thought I heard them wrong when it was, like, the end of June or beginning of July. I was like, well, that can't be right. There's a fricking meet is in like two weeks.

Why would I, why would I do some Yolo Jefferson deadlift bullshit? Uh, and like rip my fucking taint open when I'm trying to peak for a meet. So I'm still going to do it. Like we have what, till the end of next week at weekend. So I'll,

you know, I'll pull like two 25 or something, but I'm not trying to like do anything stupid and tweak something a couple of weeks out. I don't have any i train a little bit different than a lot of people um i don't have a program i do everything myself and at my age i'm 42 i recover a lot better from pulling 90 percent every week than pulling for any kind of rep range. Like I could almost pull maxes and PRS every single week and recover by the next deadlift day. But if I pulled for 10 reps, I'd be trashed. You know, when I first started lifting, I was doing that.

I was doing 90 to a hundred percent once a week. Right. And if it felt too good, I'd go up the next week, right? I was doing that forever. And you're, you're kind of right. Cause like, I think I was more into it and more active at the time. And now like, just even, I tried to do some squats this week, still sick, whatever. I was like, I i gotta get in the gym and do something and i failed four reps at like 300 pounds on squats and that's ridiculous to me but then i was beat up for two days yeah because i was just doing reps and like and then it's like oh you still have to do your five reps five sets of four reps it's like i'm almost 40 man i don't want to be down here exhausting myself making making my groin fall out. Like, this is ridiculous.

Now, if it did fall out, would Canadians look at it? Or they don't do that, right? Maybe. Might roast it. So, speaking of last week's episode, let's do this bit that we do every week. As it was introduced by somebody who said that they might like to hear us do this. So let's rate last week's episode with Brittany Diamond. I do want to be the first person out of the three of us to say, I have no clue who that person was.

Really? You've never seen uh doing any of the announcing for i think i've seen uh seen her a couple times uh doing the announcing for different strongman competitions but i watch a lot of strongman shows and competitions she does a really good job i do not i was at the arnold to watch mitch hooper win and that was about what i did there that i don't really watch a lot of that stuff but i mean that is on brand for me I don't I don't know things or do things so with that said I think it was a good episode a lot more boob talk than I'm used to but not in like a way that when I heard it on the discord I thought it was like gonna be over the top but it wasn't really It was standard boob talk with a bodybuilder.

So I think that out of five JDs, I'm going to give last week's episode... What do you got? Carry the one. Five. Five JD Power Associates out of five. That's a good rating. I was a little on the fence about the episode last week. And then Tommy had to drop the bomb on how he backed his way into winning an essay contest by being the only person to put in for it. And that just that pushed it to five five J.D.'s. Nice, nice. So I guess I'll close it out. So I enjoy his defense.

I think I had been following Brittany, but I don't think I like her name didn't resonate. It wasn't like, oh, I know exactly who that is. Like I had to like go out of my way to like, look to be like, oh yeah, I do follow her and vaguely familiar, but she looks kind of like, like 20 other girls that I follow. So I was like, I doesn't, I don't know. But, uh, as far as the, uh, podcast in general, I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't patient Brandon's wife. I think that's what we all were expecting. It was the only Miss Diamond that I know. Because of that, I guess I'll still go ahead and give it a 5 out of 5. JD Powers. The only other Diamond I know is from American Gladiators.

You guys might be too young for that Diamond. No, no. It was like night was like 88 to like 92 i think or something i still haven't watched i haven't watched the documentary on it yet though i heard it's a pretty good so you guys you just ruined my silly question of the week oh god damn it 100 it was going to be what is your american gladiator there's no way there's no way that both of them know what american gladiator name? There's no way. There's no way that both of them know what American gladiators is.

There's no way that I'm going to, they're even going to be thinking about it when I put it out there and you went and dropped it. It's amazing. Actually, I'm not disappointed at all. That is really funny. So let's do that.

Then what is your American gladiator name? Godzilla. All right. really funny uh so let's do that then what is your american gladiator name godzilla all right that makes sense to me that you know because i i was watching the documentary actually which is where this came up uh and i got to show my wife like this is about gladiators and she's like i don't know what that means and went back to like knitting or something and here i am just excited like a child watching this documentary because i remember watching this as a kid so they always say that like all their names were part of their archetype right like the malibu was the the big haired good looking bodybuilder guy and you know ice was you know straight jawed and so i was like okay cool that's that's the that's the question i'm gonna throw to these guys tomorrow.

Or as, or as Morgan said, what about your ultimate warrior question? I was like, what? And she goes, the show you were watching. I'm like, American gladiators. Damn it. Worse than I am. You said ultimate warrior. I'm just thinking.

Oh yeah. So she said that. I was going, huh? Like, I don't think I brought him up in a little while. So Keith, what's your, what's your name buddy man that's a this is like maybe the hardest one because it hasn't been like it's uh it's always gonna be like a spontaneous kind of just a quick thing i can't like really put a story behind it like i'd like to with all my other ones so i'm gonna go with so it's got to be like someone something that would pop up underneath a little quick intro of me.

It's got to be jazzy and snappy. Orange Glaze. Orange Glaze? Yeah, I don't know, man. Is that a Bukkake reference? What? Jesus Christ. Glaze.

Glaze. I thought he said glaze. I was like, are you a donut? What is this? I don't know. That or I kind of not necessarily American Gladiator, but I did have like a I think I posted something a few years ago where I took a picture of like a camera from above me. That's why I was like benching and like the bar only blocked off my face and look like a mask. And I call myself like Neuroman, like or like Neurling Neuroman. but that wouldn't really be a good gladiator i guess but yeah i don't know something with orange in it i nothing's i've never really been stumped on here that's kind of bugging me

so well you know what we'll let you think on that one and then yeah i'm calling you orange glaze oh i'm calling it orange glaze orange glaze is yep you might as well change your handle you just wrecked yourself i'm sorry right uh I'd probably be like troll or dwarf or something because I'm just like fat and hairy and a little stumpy I'd probably go with something like that because I am not a

muscular or strong person but if I'm going to be a gladiator I'm going to be the guy under the bridge trying to take you down. Grumpy old troll. Lives under the bridge. So I never thought I would say this sentence, but

to harken back to the Bukkake comments, I've got a really funny... I don't think I've ever told this story. Maybe you shouldn't. No, no, no. It's completely not sexual what's not that kind of podcast so my one of my really good friends uh you know he's he was this was like five six

years ago really into home gym stuff uh he kept he told me that his girlfriend wanted to buy him a kabuki transformer bar but she didn't but she literally kept calling it the the bukkake bar so then and then like so then i even like uh yeah i don't know i think i ended up even posted it in like the home gym group making fun of her as like a joke like not like just playfully but uh yeah so knowing that someone like my friend's girlfriend kept calling it a bukkake bar just was hysterical oh no no now i remember the funny part i told her i told him to tell her to google bukkake bar just was hysterical oh no no now i remember the funny part i told her i told him to tell her to google bukkake and then that's that was the punchline yeah you actually got me thinking too that i can't wait now for this to be released and then the discord to go

i had to google that i hate you google image search bukkake i dare you yeah i double dare you all right so there's a silly question of the week yeah moving on to the new drop as fast as we can i didn't get anything because i um i'm just gonna be in aberdeen in 23 days so if i order it i'm gonna drive past carol stream wave to my stuff and then it's good then i'm gonna go to aberdeen so i might as well just buy it in aberdeen i think that's oh yeah canada i forget yeah i'll probably i i don't know if i need the jdl shirt but i'll probably get the lift tank if there's the only thing about me that looks muscular

is my traps and shoulders so i try and show the traps are the new abs man absolutely absolutely what about you guys get anything i did not know the trigger go ahead scott oh i'm sorry i keep interrupting you're good no yeah i did not um i might get the jdl shirt i do i do like that a lot so that's that's a possibility yeah i think i'm gonna order the uh well my name not necessarily i i agree i agree with joey like my shirt would be here like next freaking you know monday or tuesday if i ordered it tonight well i'd be here like wednesday whatever but i'm probably just yeah i'll just at this point i'm just gonna save up because already know I'm going to spend a hundred dollars on the other

shirts that were posted on the discord that, you know, I want to get a size of that fits. So part of it is at some point I'm going to have to be like, can I, how many hundreds of dollars can I actually spend on top of the thousands of dollars I'm already spending to get out there? Yeah. The hotels are, the hotels are going to kill me. And then if I grab a couple of shirts, my biggest weakness is going to be me if I grab a couple shirts. My biggest weakness is going to be if Grant is selling off any plates at the end, like he was at the Arnold.

Because there's a guarantee they're coming home with me if he is. Because I want some more 45s and maybe some 25s. How many 45s do you have? Just the one. I've got the one pair. How many 45s total? Like the one i've got the one pair um how many 45s total like not just strength oh shit um i just counted mine uh i think yesterday i think it was garage gym competition posted the question on instagram what everybody what everybody's weights the amounts they had so i just i actually know what i have so i was just curious 12 12 12 45s one pair of hundreds 425s 410s four fives and a two and a pair of two and a half so yeah i've got more plates than i can lift for now i think i got 23,300 pounds. I got 30 45s.

So those are good. Those are good entry level numbers. You know, can we do the dick measuring content and contest? And I can tell you what I have. So I've got 29 pairs of 45s. Actually, it's more,

it's 29 pairs of York milled plus four or five pairs of deep dish. So, it's more. It's 29 pairs of York milled plus five pairs of deep dish, so 34 pairs. Eight pairs of 35s, 11 pairs of 25s, 18 pairs of 10s, 17 pairs of 5s, 10 pairs of 2.5s. I swear to God, are you looking at a spreadsheet? I swear to God, are you looking at a spreadsheet?

I am looking at a spreadsheet. Bringing that a grand total of just plates to 4,917 and a half pounds. And then another 2,205 pounds of dumbbells, grand total 7,122 and a half pounds of iron in my no wine cellar. Yeah. But can you Jefferson deadlift four plates? No, I think Jefferson deadlift four plates no i think jefferson deadlift three plates that's about i've done six i think i've done four i sucked and i i it was not conformed so i didn't post it but i think i've done four i did three at the arnold just like i felt it was a bit of a dick

move but this lady was like struggling to get three plates up, but I wasn't really paying attention to her. And then I went, uh, as she dropped it and she was like hyping herself up to the side, I was like, Oh, get my camera. And I got Kevin to film me doing the Jefferson deadlift of three plates. And it like, obviously it went up like nothing. It's three plates, but here's this poor woman struggling, trying to set a PR. And then i walk

up in jefferson deadlift and teabag the bar that she's using so it was like as soon as i like me and jonathan were like yeah it was great and i turned i looked at her and i immediately realized what i did um so i apologize to that poor lady for you she's definitely listening or she forgot and is like this it's reminding me of this but you know public apology back public apology to that lady that's that was not my intention i just wanted to be the first person in jefferson deadlift at the strength co booth but then jonathan did a jefferson of like seven plates like in front of me like a little bit after that so he got me back he got me back. He got me back. A buddy of mine was warming up deadlifting. He's a littler guy.

I was at a gym I go to sometimes and he did three 15 and put it down. I walked over and grabbed it in the middle with one hand. And then just, just walked, just walked away. Didn't even say anything. I, you know what? I, it's,'s it's a i know it's a total jerk move but like the one guy um being strong is fun and it's it it feels good sometimes and when you're among friends you can do that kind of stuff you know yeah i went to a friend's birthday party who had never met in person we were strictly online friends um and he is a he's a large man a very large man uh he he's had probably like three or four feet on my height like he was he's closer to seven than he is to six and uh he looks at me and he goes

for somebody that can lift my body weight i thought you'd be taller and i was just like good good let me sneak that up on you buddy you you said are you five six five seven five four five four okay yeah i'm about the same height as ray mysterio jr if you're nice if you're uh paying attention to that type of stuff i know that kind of i've met sergeant slaughter and mankind oh and i heard your john cena post today there you go i actually just met uh mcfoley um like a month ago and uh he signed my weightlifting i have a weightlifting belt that i got five different world's strongest men signatures on and i had mcfoley sign it and i told him he was i told him he was the first non-strong man to sign it so he wrote down his max bench press on my belt. Let's see.

Do you want to guess? I'm going to guess. Nick Foley's max bench. Yeah. 405. 400. Easy 400. I'm going to go.

Oh, shit. It's 550. So he notoriously was not a lifter. Like if you. 275. Oh, Jesus Christ. He better, way better than me. Good work, man. And I would argue he belongs on that belt after what he's done.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I did not hesitate. I met McFoley and I met Sargis Slaughter. Sargis Slaughter put me in the Cobra Clutch. That was pretty sick. You know, if you know him. I do.

I do. i do um but i think when we when we interview our guests i might want to talk a little more about wrestling um we should probably get him on the horn i guess um well let's do a let's do a quick ad read oh yeah and then and then we'll get into the we'll get our guest on the horn today Today's episode is, of course, brought to you by the Mastonomics Podcast. You can hear it at mastonomics.com. You could join us in the Discord crew. We are over 300 strong at the moment, and that's just in Discord. There's also supporters out there that aren't even in Discord.

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So should we get our guest on the horn? Yeah, let's give him a ring. All right. Big Dodzilla, is that you? Hey guys, it's me. Hey, welcome. Thanks for having me. You are live on the Unpaid and Underrated podcast. Oh yeah.

So let's get this out of the way. You are, of course, the first supporting member. The first. Number one, numero uno. So now you got to get a Godzilla was numero uno shirt. Yeah, right. And wear that to all the events. Yeah, I was actually on their website the day that they put the

supporting membership up and hadn't announced it on uh instagram or anything it was just there that's all the way at the bottom i was just scrolling looking through stuff and i seen it i was like what the heck is this i clicked on and i was like yeah i'll throw these i'll be i'll support these guys throw them a little little bit every month. And then little did I know, no one had even seen it yet. So that was kind of the story behind that. That's fantastic. You were also the first person to recognize them at the Arnold too, right? Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, it was 2016 or 17 Arnold. And I'd been listening for about a year. And I seen him walk by and I just yelled out in the crowd, that's the Namus guys. And they all gave me a high five. I just walked by over to watch the strong man. And then later I met up with him and got a pic. That's back when a big,

big Tyler was there too. Oh, well, I'll let you in on a shocker. We've got that photo. What? I know. I don't know if you know this,

but we had a hookup which i think was actually you um someone split it in my dms uh so i i'm kind of a little excited and um i know we're gonna get a few people excited talking about this uh so you were mentioning um in the previous uh section that you had met some wrestlers. Yeah, yeah. Now, I've already, of course, dropped the Ultimate Warrior reference. We already did my silly question, American Gladiators. Keith, do you watch wrestling at all?

I watched wrestling in, like, 96 to, like, 2000, give or take. So that era, I know, like, I watched all NWO. So you know the Attitude era. I had 13 Wolfpack t-shirts. And I remember when Wolfpack died and then it was all back to NWO white. I was like, fuck, now I have, like, all these shirts that are relevant. And then the NWO still came back. So, yeah, WCW, WWE, Stone Cold, DX.

Yeah, I think maybe when I got into, from, like, 2000, I probably stopped watching it when I got into high school. But, yeah, that's. The Monday Night Wars and the Attitude era. Oh, yeah. I think maybe when I got into, from like 2000, I probably stopped watching it when I got into high school, but yeah. The Monday Night Wars and the Attitude Era. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I actually watched it all through that time, too. My dad used to watch it, and so did my grandpa. So, I

watched with them, and then eventually watched it on my own, and then I just stopped at some point. I want to say about... Like we all do. about the ruthless aggression era i kind of backed off um but then i came back when bray wyatt and john cena first started their feud and i just became absolutely enamored with bray wyatt everything he could do his fiend his fiend theme song uh i used to listen to all the time when i deadlift yep that used to be on my playlist too. And too bad they took it down.

It's still on YouTube, but it's not on any streaming service. So yeah, that's really... I watched it when he came back. And then now that he's gone again, I haven't watched it anymore. And I realize I'm just not that into it. But I still am like... I still follow a lot of the independent guys. And I still kind of just watch like botchamania and the clips on the side and stuff like that so like aew and like or more independent than that okay yeah aew is in my town

right now actually they just did two events here uh they did they got a pretty sweet documentary show on hbo i think it's h, that follows AEW throughout last season? They're really doing it. And I feel like they're listening to the fans a bit more than Vince McMahon is. Because he's, I don't know what he's on, but he's out to lunch. He has no clue what people want anymore. He has no clue what is interesting. And he's just kind of running it into the ground, if I think I had to be honest.

But, of course, that's just my personal opinion. Their female division seems like it's better than the men's division right now. Absolutely. Absolutely. But that kind of just leads me. I want to ask you both a question then. And you have your druthers, obviously. Who is your favorite wrestler of all time and why you want me to go keith yeah i got a couple in my mind but yeah so yeah so as a kid i liked like eight years old i liked the excitement of ultimate warrior before i knew that he was

actually a terrible wrestler but just that excitement as a kid i loved it then as i got older like in high school i switched to loving the undertaker and that love never that love never died but the utmost respect we talked about already with mick foley yeah i caught i caught some of his japan I caught some of his Japan stuff. Some of his matches with Terry Funk with the barbed wire. That just instantly drove him to the top. Number one. That Undertaker-Mankind match. Greatest match. The Hell in a Cell.

Greatest match of all time. Mick Foley. Even the Mankind character, when he first came out with the leather mask and the squealing and ripping out his hair like he just went full into that and it was amazing because it could have flopped it could have been a joke but he he was like no i'm gonna do that and i was i would i'm with you on that one uh he he's definitely up there in my in the in the top um i think as a kid i also liked the ultimate warrior uh in fact i went to a pay-per-view he was supposed to be at here in hamilton and so i'm in hamilton ontario and hamilton ontario has

a huge wrestling history the first ever royal rumble was actually here and uh the hacksaw jim duggan won and it was oh yep and that's that's good, that's a big thing for my city, but triple H hates Hamilton. So ever since he started being a little more in control, he won't, they don't come back here anymore. So yeah, I would say the warrior. I also fell in love with the undertaker at some point as well.

Um, but like now that I think of all the things I've watched, Bray white's still going to be up there. I have more merch for his than anybody else. I have a huge respect for Macho Man and a weird emotional connection to Roddy Piper. Right. Go ahead.

Was that because you love the movie They Live as a Kid? I do love that movie, but no. Or Help Him to Frogtown. I wish I knew what it was, but sometimes I just hear him talking and I'm just like, that's the dude. That's the dude.

He was good on the mic. He really was a few problems, right? Like some stupid stuff he said, but that was at the time that was, that was fine. Um, but if I really had to say it and this,

nobody ever expects this answer. Taz. Really? I remember watching ecw when he was um just doing his sabu it was him and sabu when it's that one scene it's when the lights turn on and sabu's in the middle of the ring pointing up because he hadn't been there for so long and the crowd loses it and taz is just in the middle of the ring with his arms crossed staring. Doesn't budge, doesn't flinch. Taz is maybe, he's just under six feet.

I've watched him, I was watching the ECW documentary and he said that in the match with Bam Bam, Bam Bam didn't want to take a Taz Plex through the table. And he just did it. Like he just took this 350 pound man and threw him over his head dead weight. So I have so much respect for that guy. And he actually invented tapping out in wrestling. Tapping out was only in UFC before that.

Or in, I think a grapple sport. And he brought it to professional wrestling because the taz mission was so brutal that it wrapped up all your all your mouth and everything and choked you so you had to tap to signal because you couldn't say i quit so i always just i didn't know that the human suplex machine i got mad respect i know he's a bit weird now he's a he's a meme he's a running meme now on aew because he's just he's retired he doesn't care anymore um but yeah the ecw and then right when he first came to wwe that era taz has always just been like because he was the fight machine samoa joe is trying to be him now and sakoa is trying to be him now and but he was the first to do that keith i'm gonna say so probably my

all-time favorite as a kid well i mean i'm gonna have to go with as a kid because it's all like the only time i ever really watched it regularly so man big sexy kevin hall kevin kevin nash that is it's not yeah like i agree diesel you know whatever you want to call him you know that was he's my man. The Outsiders, the tag team with him and Scott Hall, even when he was a big daddy Diesel or whatever in WWE, at the time.

Yeah. Part of that too, I remember I didn't have a gaming system as a kid. We were my older brother's friends and he had one of the first Nintendo... What was the second-gen Nintendo, I think? Nintendo 64. There was two games. The Super Nintendo, even before that, I think.

Oh, okay. I remember this was like 1994 wrestling game or something. Like super old school. I know the one you're thinking about. I remember being like, there like there was you know Diesel and Six Pack and all those guys or it was Billy no it's the one two three Billy there Billy one two three kids. Yeah.

Yeah because Billy the kid was a different one Billy Gilman or something. Anyway so yeah Kevin Nash 100% that was my guy. Nice. Good answers. Good answers. Sorry that I derail that but I get excited talking about wrestling sometimes. Hey it's your podcast brother. And it will it's your podcast today um wait yep wait till big lou gets on i'll probably do the same thing to you sorry keith you're good so i'm i guess i i just

need some clarification because i'm kind of confused who we're talking to you kept calling him scott and dodds i thought we had big hot on the radio isn't this big hot big hot oh lord yeah my lady calls me big hot yeah that's that's the reaction we like to get where did that come from or is that just because attractive trophy husband yeah yeah about that yeah it's just trophy husband business yep so what i've been waiting for the uh the questions from dm and the uh significant other coming to play and there we go yeah big hot yeah your uh your your partner gave us a fair amount of information you know i said cherry there's only so much we can you know we're not trying to have a three-hour podcast i you know if anything she sent me didn't get released. Sorry.

I definitely feel like we got some gems out of her, though. So I appreciate her. I appreciate her being fair game and letting, you know, she literally wrote me like like a six paragraph response. So I really appreciate that. Nice. So you were like the first supporting member the first to recognize them in that at at the arnold what got you in so early to massonomics well so i at work i listen to a lot of podcasts and i've always listened to a lot of podcasts and i literally just got on apple podcasts and started started looking up weightlifting podcasts.

They came up. That's how I found them back in the day. I didn't know anything about them. I didn't know anything about their Instagram or anything until I started listening to podcasts. That was like 2016 time when I first started listening to them. Like 50 episodes in or something or less? Yeah, something like that, pretty early.

And then, as a follow-up to that, no, go ahead, please finish. Another first is, I don't know if you guys know where the first comment race even came from. Oh, on YouTube. No, I just know it's boring now i have one

shout out shout out to swim hack who uh just released a youtube video talking about his stroke that he suffered a year ago um so go over to his youtube page and uh check that video out he explains it all he kind of disappeared in the last year. Best wishes to him. Me and SwimHack back in the day, SwimHack was commenting on the videos and I started commenting. I had been the only commenter for the last three weeks.

The guys on the podcast had said, oh yeah, we do a YouTube video. They weren't really too big into that back then. They were like, go check out YouTube too and comment like SwimHack. I messaged Swim swim hack and i messaged swim hack and i messaged mess i'm like uh i'm the one that's been commenting on the videos and then me and swim hack just started racing every week and then everybody slowly over started jumping in became a thing so yeah for for about six months it was just me and swim hack going back and forth for first comment that's a really good story i

was i really appreciate hearing that well then actually that led into what my follow-up was going to be is like what was it like being crew before crew so before there was a discord before there was anything um there there was just you and like what was that there was there was others on instagram but yeah it was it was definitely a lot smaller and i almost feel like a masonomic hipster now like when your favorite band becomes popular you know and you're kind of like i remember when back in the day so yeah it kind of feels like that now but i i would say like it also just means there's more for you to love right like the uh like the the crew podcast i appreciate that that was i was thinking like when the deadpool movie came out and everybody's like great everybody likes deadpool i was like

i've always liked deadpool but now look at all the cool deadpool stuff i get and that's kind of how i look at it as like yeah mass knowledge is growing bigger the discord crew is I think I forget what number I was supporting member I could check I think I'm under the first 50 at least but like now it's 300 people I do feel like that sometimes where it's just like it's not like it was but it can right right it can only get better as people come in and love it. Oh, let's, let's the podcast continue. Unless the guys throw power lifting meats and let's the merchandise continue. Unless everything that we love continue.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody still always be a little, I'll always be a little hipster about it though. So Scott, I got a good one for you. So since you're one of the few guys that we've talked to today like a bunch of the guys that listen to all the episodes but very few people i've talked to has been have had been listening for since 2016 era

so what was it like when tyler left that actually hit you hard like is that what i kind of figured it had to because like i change. So that would have like really thrown me for a loop. It was hard enough, like listening to it, like three years removed from it happening. Like so you're you're you're just listening every week and then he's just gone. That had to be a trip. Yeah, I actually I would interact with Tyler quite a bit on Instagram myself. We still actually talk every now and then. But I followed him to his other podcast that he had, which was another exercise podcast. I can't remember the name of it. But then when he moved back, he started the Conspiracy Randy. And I followed and was a member of that podcast as well.

And you should check out Conspiracy Randy. That show was freaking hilarious. They're not doing it anymore, but they're also out there. Yeah, now he's doing a podcast like geared towards like actual gym owners and they're trying to make a business out of it. I listened to a couple of those, but it's like, it's,

it's specifically to like, I think their market is like 50 guys that own gyms and will like, you know, buy their self-help kind of program. But yeah, it hit hard. It kind of, it took,

it took, it took like a good month or two for those guys to kind of find themselves without that third guy to bounce off because tyler was a pretty big part you know he talked a lot i think i think tommy i think tommy really has stepped up um his game since since tyler left tommy has taken a huge more talking i mean he had to but um he was a little bit seemed like he was a little bit shyer back then yeah i feel like like tyler was the main oh like tyler was tanner before tanner was tanner uh as far as as far as like hosting it and keeping like the flow and everything going and like being like the number one you know topic changer. So that was, that was pretty cool. Like I do.

I think the only person I've talked to that actually like lived through that, like in real time. Uh, actually, yeah. Big shout out to Tyler. He actually follows us on Instagram. He follows the podcast.

That was really neat to see. Um, all right. I'm going to go completely different direction here. I got a list of stuff here. Uh, Tom, what's your favorite smelling salt?

And what is your favorite one to make other people smell when they visit? That currently is now this Zone smelling salt. I've gone through. I have every smelling salt you can think of. I've tried every smelling salt from Obsidian to ah to i mean to all of every single one but this zone the blood red one in this metal container right here that's some decent bottling this is the only ammonia that hit me too hard oh wow like i've had a fresh bottle of i've had a fresh bottle of nose bleach and i've hit them hard and no problem this i actually had to

undo my belt go sit down and breathe because it hit me so hard that's crazy so yeah the zone zone smelling salts, the red is like blood red. It's pretty insane. But nothing I love more though than a capsule, the ampule. I have about 50 ampules left and I hold those for meat days only. I wish I could find them.

I want to play with those. Every now and then, they still will pop up on Amazon from time to time. So if you can find them on there, you can set an alert so when they're in stock, you get an alert.

That's how I got my last two. And yeah, so I got about 50 ampules left. That's exciting. And just saving for a special occasion now. We kind of harkened back to last week's one of big you know, big Murph's questions for us. The specialty spiral.

I was trying to think of, like, what the hell did she call it? And I was just like, someone will say it as I just ramble here. Yeah, specialty spiral. Anything else in the home gym you consider like that? Like things you only pull out on special occasions? Nothing on special occasions, really.

Just the smelling salts. Everything, just the small insoles. Everything I have, I like to use. Anything on? I used to have a PR shirt, but that kind of got too stretched out, and I can't really wear it anymore. So, yeah, I don't even have a PR shirt anymore. Okay, so perfect segue then. We did get a lot of questions uh we reached out specifically to the hosts at some point too and by we i mean keith did and then i did later only

to find out keith already did it's like killing me man um so tommy was actually wondering what your favorite shirt is i love the 8-bit Strongman. I have two of them. I have a large with the sleeves still on, and then I have a medium that cut the sleeves off because I like it tight. And when you cut the sleeves off on a medium on my size, it just looks sick. So, yeah, I got two of those. That's been my favorite for sure.

That Strongman 8-Bit I think just hits. I never got in on the 8-Bit ones. I think I started ordering right about the time those were on their way out. I do have the 8-Bit Powerlifting. It's one of my favorite shirts.

It definitely fits the best out of all the black collection. Yeah, I think it fits the best. I think it fits. It's definitely one of the best fitting for sure. I'm a fan. Now, what strength sports have you competed in? Because you seem to be doing a – you do really well in most of them from what I can see on your Instagram. Thank you. Yeah, I can see on your Instagram. Thank you.

I dabble in powerlifting. I haven't done a meet in about a year and a half, two years for powerlifting. Mainly, I mostly do strongman now. I was just at the Highland Games here in Michigan last weekend, and that really piqued my interest. I've been talking with several of the guys that were there, and that's something I'm definitely going to be doing for sure. I powerlifted in high school. I'm definitely going to be doing for sure. Um, yeah, but I power lifted in high school.

I was all state power lifter. We had a pretty, pretty awesome power lifting team, especially for the nineties. That wasn't such a huge thing. So. And where was that at? Cause I know like high school power lifting, I thought that was only really big in Texas and it's like, it's all lifting. So, so, well, yeah. So was it, was it, was it, is it geared lifting only? Or were you guys doing raw back then? It was, well, a lot of kids did rocks.

No one had equipment, but we had one single ply deadlift suit and one single ply bench shirt that we all kind of passed around. That's hysterical. The communal bench and the bench shirt. That's, that had to be pretty fucking ripe. That had to be pretty stinky. Yeah, because you're having I was probably like, I think I competed at like 181 and then I'd put the bench shirt on, have

two or three guys help me put it on and then someone competing at 220 would be up and then he'd put the same bench shirt on and there'd be six of us pulling the shirt on. So yeah, it was a good time all right that's killer go ahead geith um yeah uh so my stuff is going crazy here have you had some uh i you know vaguely remember did you have a pretty big acl injury a few years ago is that something you went through um two years ago now two and a half years ago i tore my achilles okay yeah so i've actually

torn both i've torn both biceps and i've torn my left achilles um i tore my achilles in december and then competed in a strongman competition in september wow like that's i could i could see someone doing powerlifting almost but like Strongman, unless it was an extremely static show, how are you out there running on one fucking foot, basically? The surgery for Achilles have come a million percent from what they used to be. The guy who did my surgery actually holds patents or has patents pending on the type of surgery he did. my surgery actually holds patents or has patents pending on the type of surgery he did. And my recovery, I was back to work in six weeks instead of if I would have done it a year

prior, I would have been out six months. So I got, I actually got pretty lucky with the time that I did it. And the surgeon that I got was just incredible. Nice. That's good. That's good to know.

So I pre your Achilles injury. saw uh your recent posts i think there may be something you shared in your story of you just being a complete asshole on the basketball court just dunking on people left and right uh hell yeah so you were like basically just a big stud high school player were you actually so let me put this way were you actually like a decent basketball player or were you just so athletic that you could just kind of like block shots and dunk on people? Like what was your, how would you describe yourself as a basketball player, you know, at whatever level you got to?

Well, Dennis Rodman was my favorite player growing up and I kind of just did that on the court in high school. Just if there was a ball, I was going to go get it. But, yeah, I relied on just hyper-athleticism on the court over any kind of fundamentals, you know. Always, anytime I'd go into a gym, I would know it could jump higher than me. And just knowing that going in, you just walk around with this confidence. So that's kind of how I played I wasn't gonna cross you over and hit a three in

your face but if that ball was up in the air on a rebound I was gonna throw it down on your head I dunked from age 14 until 37 was when I finally lost it. So I had a good run. That's impressive. Yeah, 14. So you're like basically a freshman in high school dunk. Freshman in high school, yeah. Did that actually get you bumped up to the varsity early or anything? Or was it just more like –

I could dunk but probably not in-game because I would just fumble the ball as I'm trying to on a fast break. I had a dunk in-game my sophomore and my senior year um on the bar on basketball teams yeah and i won uh i won a slam dunk competition at a basketball camp uh my senior year too so nice and you're uh you're you're good leaping ability did that help you transition into a all-star at the ymca volleyball uh program absolutely that's how that's how me and that's how me and my partner met yeah um i we would be playing and i could i would jump to go for a block and like my belly button

would be at the top of the net that's great but i had absolutely no control and for a couple years and people people were getting scared playing with me because i'd be up there spiking the ball and i had no idea where it was gonna go oh so you're yeah so you were just an animal out there like there was no as i'm volleyball it's pretty strategic getting this far as like you have to hit i mean i assume like which part of the hand you hit it with and like what what geometry you know what angle you're coming down at to kind of throw the ball, whatever degree, and you're just up there, just full force. Did you ever have that?

None of that mattered. None of that mattered just because of how high I could get on top of the ball. But, yeah, over time, I learned how to play and definitely became more under control. Gotcha. Did you ever smash someone right in the face? I think I took

more in the face going to blocks, going to block spikes than I ever actually really hit anybody else. Which is a good thing. So are we having a callback to the

Bukkake talk earlier? Damn. I thought that was funnier than the crowd did let's see so uh big big tanner i usually don't say his name but we'll give him credit on this one this uh maybe i didn't notice it right you know there's so many crew it's hard to watch everyone's videos you know 100 of the time and stuff but do you have a do you have a kind of like a tick you do before a lot of your videos where you're doing like a little uh you know you look up to the left and do a little jerking motion going now you're getting into my story there now you're getting into my question i was going to ask the host, because you have your own little deadlift setup fixed as well.

We can save it. We'll save it. We'll save that. That's a good idea. Because sometimes I want to poke at Keith's little deadlift setup too. We can definitely talk about it. I want to be involved in that. All right. Well, actually, let's move on to that. I want to be involved in that. All right. Well, actually, let's move on to that. That's actually a pretty good reason. That's a good segue.

I think we've done all of our questions. There's one more. It's just the way it's on the second page, so it's not visible if you're looking at the first page. So this is one that gave me the most chuckle out of reading your Seeing Again Others novel she sent me. So, okay, is it true that she temporarily had to block you on Facebook because of how many

lifting videos you were posting specifically on Facebook, not just Instagram? So you were just flooding everyone's Facebook feed with Godzilla deadlifts. I think that's probably 100% true and I maybe now will post one or less

lifting videos on Facebook. I keep it all for Instagram. Nice. Yeah, that's hilarious. Absolutely. That's awesome. I feel in the same way. I'll post everything to Instagram and then no more than 25% of my Instagram videos make it to

Facebook. So that's hysterical that she did that. Did you actually notice that she's just like, oh, she's not liking any of my shit or is it just like something that she told you after the fact? No, she told me later. I absolutely did not notice.

There's no way he noticed. All right. So let's hear it. You've got, it sounds like you've got some fun questions for us. And I kind of fast forwarded because I think. Well, yeah, I was. I want to hear from you. I was just going to mention mine.

Yeah. When I deadlift or do any kind of big lifts, I have a kind of mention mine. Yeah. When I deadlift or do any kind of big lifts, I have a kind of up into the left. I had tick and I've had, I've had little ticks for a lot of different things, my whole life and things develop pre doing certain things. So there's different ticks for different things. So a lot of times,

if you, if you watch my videos enough, you'll catch you'll start to catch on and uh i was gonna i was gonna bring that up and then ask keith he has a very distinct deadlift setup as well and is that something that you have to do or is it something that you just do? I have to, like, mentally, I have to do up and to the left, usually twice. Is that something that is more of a tick or more of a routine? It's definitely a routine.

But I, like, could I, I don't think I could go out and pull a lift on the platform without doing my, basically, if anyone's not familiar, I familiar i you know i start with my arms at my side and i do a full uh like rotator cuff rotation and get my arms back down where i'm kind of like super like bicep kind of curled and my hands are kind of out like i'm ready to like basically grab some boobs and my fingers are like very like you know open like i i you know i i'm it's like i'm yeah my buddy calls you know jazz fingers if you will yeah just bust my bust my balls on that but like no i i like today like i'm like warming up with like 225 and i it's not as exaggerated i definitely get some more exaggerated as i go along and i i absolutely me too is it is it is it is it a tick? I don't know. Could I go down and deadlift without doing it? Not heavy.

I feel off, but it's something that I've dealt with, never diagnosed or anything, but those kind of things are stuff that I've dealt with my whole life. If you've watched closely, you might have even seen finger stuff and watching me on this video, but yeah, it's something that I've kind of dealt with my whole life. My kids actually have it a little, have a little bit too.

Oh, you want to call it just ticks or, I don't know what to call it. Cause I never gotten looked at because I doesn't hinder my life. So I was just curious if a big Keith's was anything. How about you? Do you have any, do you have anything like that? Do you have a routine or a tick or anything pre lifting or pre anything else? Not that I'm aware of. Um,

I do find that during right before a big deadlift in particular, um, I do like to just stop, um, and breathe. So you'll notice in when I set the record at my last meet which still isn't uploaded um right before that fourth attempt that they gave me the record setting attempt um i actually just stop breathe deep and stare at the sky and morgan calls it praying to the old gods because i i just kind of shut all the sound out around me. Sure. Yeah.

I don't have any like physical ticks or anything like that. But I definitely have that little ritual, especially before the really big, this is going to hurt deadlifts, you know, breathe deep, exhale, inhale,

cut out the sounds around you and just rip um at least not in lifting i'm sure in my life if you asked her she would definitely point out little annoying things i get in the car and i plug my phone in and then i'm like probably but i don't think i have anything like that but also that's that sounds, do you also plan a lot of things in your life? Do I, what do you, do you do a lot of planning? Oh no. Okay.

So yeah, that's, that does sound a little more like me cause I don't either, but that's again, I don't have those rituals and things in the middle that I have to do before I do things. I definitely have rituals before like everything has its own individual thing attached to it.

It seems like, so yeah. Um seems like. So, yeah. Is your record USPA, USPL? WRPF. No, you're, you're Canada.

Okay. WRPF. I want to say it was Canadian, but it might be Ontario only. I don't know until they post it, but essentially the record didn't exist. Okay. So every lift I did set the record i did i got the

i got the michigan state record for deadlift then uspa and it took me it took me emailing the uspa directly to get it recognized on the site okay yeah i'm definitely gonna i was just curious tomorrow when i i think i have the day off i don't know one of my guys is sick i might end up going in. But that might be, because it's been over, I think, about 30 days now. There's no record of it? So, is it on?

You need to find the meet director and see if they have it. If it's on their website somewhere, all you have to do is paste that and just email. Okay, well, that's crazy. It's not on Open Powerlifting at all. And I don't think it's on their website. Is the't think none of the meat is on open power lifting yet right okay yeah i did message the meat director and i was like is this ever gonna happen and he's like yeah we're just dragging our heels so what's the record for uh so because i weighed in at under 75 submasters um i just set the deadlift record i technically

set the bench record too it's so the wrpf used to be um uh untested only so when they went to tested they just blew up all of their records got it so there was no tested records so i like i looked at the guy i was like wait so everything i do right now is a record he's like yep dope i'm the guy to beat only if they touch your underwear though and check to make sure you're not wearing a uh you know a lifting suit underneath your singlet he got annoyed at having to do it for every lift because every lift from my from my opener to my fourth attempt this is a record set and technically my bench was two but i didn't denounce it so they don't care yeah i got the i pulled 617.3 in the previous deadlift record for masters uh 100 kg was 600 so hell yeah i was pretty happy

with that that's good work man it's a good lift. God, I miss lifting. I wish I wasn't sick. It's probably why earlier, remember I said like my mental health sucks right now. I think it's just related to just like being sick. And then I can only work out once or twice a week because being sick, my body is just like rejecting my recovery. So I go down to the gym, I do a couple of squats and then I'm beat up for two days so i'm just like i can't even go lift so now i'm just yelling at stuff don't underestimate how much that just helps mentally just getting in the gym yeah i don't have any outlet right now because work is also just blowing up my brain it's like why is this on the floor and i'm yelling at stuff on the floor and it's just like i I need a drink or a deadlift.

So tomorrow, tomorrow we're deadlifting. I don't care what else happens. I'm also going to pull a Jefferson. I'm good. It's going to be tomorrow or Saturday for that. I was thinking of, I had a couple ideas,

but I just don't think they're going to work out. I was going to actually do a discovery deadlift style video. We'll see if I, as long as you do one, you got, you got, you got you got yeah you got three three spots for people so just get one in or don't so i have a better chance

just just just don't all right should we move into overrated underrated or do you have another question for us no we hit the we hit we kind of hit the questions I wanted to get with. Oh, how about this? You guys both have coaches, yes? Yeah, I do. No, Keith does. Why? Accountability.

If I was on my own, I would either go for a PR every week and hurt myself or take like 12 days off at a time because I don't really care. So I'm financially invested in it. And it's I overanalyze everything in my life. So if I don't have to overanalyze my programming, that makes me mentally happier to where I don't have to like go into the weeds and like nitpick. If I was doing it, I would want to have more control over it. And I do have a good relationship with my coach. you know he's very open to who's your coach my uh it's it's a his name's justin brand brand he's uh he's uh stronger by science on instagram not to be confused with uh what's the really popular some you know strength science whatever the other

whatever the more popular one is. Someone thought, I can't think of who that one is. I don't remember. Nonetheless, he's a local powerlifter that I met at meets five or six years ago. And I initially started out just paying him $100 to do six months, whatever it was. His pricing was so over the place. It was hysterical. I basically just used him for meat preps for two years years um and then i said whatever i wanted on the off season and it

would be like one time he charged me like 100 bucks the next time he charged me like 250 or something and then we just went down to a flat very fair rate for month to month and i just you know every i just pay pal him at the you know the first of every month and it just you know takes away that anxiety of like well do i owe you money for this program or that program or whatever? So just having someone to upload my videos to and get some feedback from, it's just same, same reason why I compete too. It's like, if, why do I want to do two powerlifting meets a year? So I have something to look forward to like competing is really fun and it's

awesome to do, but the, the, the, the, the actual 10 to 15, 16 week meet prep, that's keeping you accountable and giving you something to do but the the the actual 10 to 16 week meet prep that's keeping you accountable and giving you something to look forward to and actually having like a goal-oriented thing to be a part of like that's you know a very long answer to why i have a coach but accountability and you know camaraderie i guess a little bit okay i'm i'm not i'm not anti-coach but i i just have never understood why people do or feel the need to i've always done it all myself so i was i've always been curious why i feel like if i had a coach they don't know me like i know me especially i'm 42 no one no one knows what i feel like when i wake up you know so i don't

following a following a program i think would be harder than me doing what i feel like i can do daily and i feel like i've built a pretty good pretty good strength base so i was just curious uh with mine too it's it's's all We were percentage based at first Because I came from percentage based And I told him I like percentage based I understand percentage based It helped too that I've been with him for over 5 years I think

So that's essentially I had maybe 2 or 3 years of shitty lifting on my own Or just following free programs Or spreadsheets my buddies would make and give me And stuff like that 90% of my lifting career has been with him too so like he does know me better than i might know myself at times uh and can like see shit in my videos and like you know know when to pull back and stuff just by like how exerted i feel but uh a lot of rpe based with uh a high

top end and then like a you know, like up to a 10% variance. And I kind of, you know, pick whatever numbers there for the day. So that, that helps me a lot. Just giving me a guideline. I've thought about like, if ever I have a falling out with him or whatever, like what I want to do chat, the, the, the, the one that everybody else does, the jug, the juggernaut or yeah. Yeah. Chad bought like from him from what I've heard is just way too much volume for my old ass.

I don't think I could do all the volume, but I do like the idea of keeping everything more organized because the app that I use with him I really don't like. But yeah. I kind of agree. I think Juggernaut is a bit too much volume, but it's the only thing I've ever had to keep me in line. So I use Juggernaut.

I've been using it now for well over a year. And if I didn't, I wouldn't do anything. I probably would just do what I was doing, which is go down and test, do a couple deadlifts, one or two accessories, and call it a day. So I will say that I have seen progression. I have seen strength build and then strength loss once I got sick, losing just pounds and pounds and

pounds off my deadlift and and my bench and my squat um right now my estimated squat is 295 and i did 340 at a meet the beginning of the year so i do think i i don't have a coach. I am self-taught, but I don't think that there's a bad side to me going to meet with somebody and just like, what am I doing wrong? What can I do to make my squat hurt less? What can I do to make my deadlift for 70 instead of four 69? Like, cause I know being self-taught my form sucks. I might be a great deadlifter, but that's probably i'll just by mistake up until now maybe i've got five six hundred in me and if somebody would show me how to do it a little better i could get there

but i don't honestly believe i would want a coach i don't think i would want somebody there that i have to upload to because at the same time if you don't think I would want somebody there that I have to upload to. Because at the same time, if you don't, I firmly believe if you don't like doing it, you won't. And I don't like fitness growing up. I can give you a whole thing about making sure that your children see you be fit, making sure that their teachers are encouraging them. Because I think that I was discouraged from enjoying fitness as a child. But I just had like, my gym teacher was a bully. And then I almost broke my neck. That's too bad. And he was the, that was my middle school. And then my high school gym teacher yelled at me

when I almost broke my neck, refused to let me go to the office. And then I showed up in a neck brace two days later and never had to go to his class again. So like, there were just things that incrementally just led to me not wanting to do it. And then here I am 35, picking up a barbell and going, this is magic. Like, I want to do this forever. So I think that, you know, if you don't like doing it, you won't. So I don't think that having a coach who I have to wake up every day. And if I message go, Hey man, work went 10 hours instead of six. I don't think I'm going to make it into the gym today. And having somebody berate me, isn't going to fix that.

If I work 10, 12 hours, I'm not working out. Stick it up your tailpipe. I'm going to go home and I'm going to sit down and hug my kid and have a beer. I'm not going to go and no amount of, so I just don't think it'll be worth my time to be honest with you, to be fair. The other,

the other day I went to the, I went into my, into my gym, my garage and started deadlifting, got up to three 15. It felt terrible. I put everything away and called it a day. Yep.

And I can do that. I can do that. Yeah. And that's, and jug does. Okay. Yep. And I can do that. I can do that. Yeah. And that's, and jug does. Okay. So this week I mentioned that I've, I've lost so much weight on my juggernaut wanted me to do two 65 for six.

And then, um, and that was me setting my max at three 15 and I could only do four. So it lowered the weight, did some back offsets and it wanted me to do five sets of four no five sets of six at like 205 and i finally like on the fifth set was just like i can't keep going and then juggernaut was like then stop and juggernaut actually just told me to stop squatting like it just listened to the feedback so i can i can genuinely say i do

really appreciate juggernaut giving me some sort of, I don't do a lot of the accessories cause I think two and a half hours in the gym is too much. I'll stick to the two hours. Um, but I do appreciate it. Give me that feedback. Good question. Cool. Fitness with all the good ones this week, Scott. That's what I'm here for. this week, Scott. That's what I'm here for. He's been doing this longer than all of us. Just in the back end.

Overrated, underrated. I don't know if you're familiar with this game. Big Dodds, but essentially we've got six hand-selected subjects for you. You do have to pick whether they are overrated or underrated.

Can I ride the line? You cannot ride the line. That is the most important thing to remember. You do have to ride one horse. Keith, why don't you lead them this week? Cause they are mostly you. I actually had no overrated underrated for you this week.

I had a couple. And we screwed up because we said we were going to add eight or nine and then delete the ones that we kind of covered, and we forgot to do that. I'm scrambling to think of what to make my second one, but I think I might just run with it. So overrated, underrated, Big Scott. You know how to play.

So split-sleeve York barbellbells overrated or underrated overrated because I don't like using them. The knurling is terrible and I have one that I, that I restored. It was pretty rusty. It looks pretty good now. Overrated. I use my equipment and I don't like to use it so that's why i agree with you on that that is uh i'm not i know i'm not supposed to help answer these but yeah this is one where i i do have a very distinctive like you uh i remember you watching you refinish the barbell a couple years ago like oh i should do that's one of mine. And then I ended up doing the vinegar bath and not pulling it out soon enough, and it just destroyed it.

It looked so shitty. So then I ended up getting a Nylox wheel and knocking pretty much all of the coating off altogether. But it was a good answer because they are a horrible barbell as far as anything. I want to use my equipment. I don't want to just have it set so yeah that's a good one overrated or underrated gym stickers

gym stickers like stickers around the gym yeah I have a lot of vinyl that I hand cut myself. My whole deadlift platform is covered in vinyl stickers that say things like Godzilla or lever flicks and hook grip. And I hand cut all of them out of vinyl from work.

I was going to ask if that was from plate snacks. So you have a big a vinyl from work. I was going to, I was going to ask you if that was plate snacks or so you always, you have like a big thermal printer at work. You can, you can, you know, use when you're, when no one's looking,

that's, that's good to know. But yeah. Oh, well plate snacks. I have, uh, I've just started using them for the last month.

I have two, um, I have four 45s now covered with one with my gym logo at one now with a, uh, a Tommy. As you'll see in my Jefferson deadlift. I wanted to bring that out. Yeah.

I was actually writing in our little thing as we were chatting. Like I want to talk about plate snacks. Cause the Tommy one with the flex and rate where the barbell goes. That's top tier stuff, man. That's good quality comedy. Yeah. They may, i had them make

those for my plates and i have now end caps that uh my power bar has uh my logo um on the end cap now i took the end cap out and replaced it with uh their end caps that i had custom made i've been looking at that so i might do that for my barbell is get is get my own thing made that's a good idea yeah play snacks uh they've Play Snacks, they've done right by me. I mean, I paid for everything, but everything I've designed and sent them has turned out really great. I recommend them a lot.

Play Snacks. Gym Snickers, Gym Stickers, underrated. My log is covered in stickers. I love stickers. Gym Snickers Actually sounds pretty good right now I could fuck up a sus Snickers bar

In the gym Well those were My two that I had The rest looks like they're from Jim From Jin I don't even know how to pronounce the next one Alright I'll jump in Yeah have at it

So like Masonomics Mom Big Jen Is slowly becoming Unpaid and underrated all right i'll i'll jump in um yeah have at it yeah so like massonomics mom big jen is slowly becoming um unpaid and underrated uh mom because she is engaged with the instagram she sends me so many questions for everybody so like i don't think we well i know we throw it out to nate every week and thank him for this but i honestly don't think I could do some of what I do without Jen. So I believe this is pronounced, sorry, overrated or underrated, Weimaraners. Weimaraners. Weimaraners.

Weimaraners. What the hell is that? It's a dog. What the hell is that? It's a dog. Yes. I have a two-year-old Weimaraner, and they're extremely underrated. It's the greatest dog that you can get.

Do you know the calendars or posters of the dogs dressed up as people? Yes. That's a Weimaraner. The gray. It kind of looks like a Labradorrador but gray i'm gonna google this shit aren't i look at me look at me i'm tommy my dog my dog two-year-old puppy weimaraner his name is zamboni look at them okay i see it yeah they're the they're the goodest boys he's he's in my in any of my videos he's in the

gym with me every day when i work out uh last summer was a little bit rough training him he used to jump in on my lifts all the time now he's got those little uh little bed in here and he just hangs out while i lift the whole time that's the best boy so underrated weimaraners outstanding all right overrated or underrated also all of these are from big gen got it remember i had a garbage week i was not able to jump in and do any of these for me uh so if they're hopefully there's some surprises for you uh overrated or underrated Broadway musicals? Underrated. My girls, I have two daughters, and they are big into musicals. I know almost every song to every popular musical for the last 20 years. Wow. I have seen Mary Poppins on Broadway.

I've seen The Book of Mormon on Broadway. I just went and watched Chicago, a small production of Chicago a couple weeks ago. Yeah. I just saw Why Can't I Remember the Name of Six? I don't know if you know what that is. That's a Broadway musical. We have, Grand Rapids brings

a lot of the traveling Broadway shows through town. That's where I live. I see lots of them. We sing the songs in my car with my girls. And sometimes I even look to them because the attachment to those songs gives me hype. So yeah, Broadway musicals underrated looking at me. You would never guess that.

So I, I will tell you, I have no patience for musicals um but do you have you watched schmigadoon on apple tv i have not okay so it is um a modern couple like in today's with um if i could only remember their names is it where they go to like a city and it's all a musical? Yep. Yes. I know what it is.

I have not seen it though. Uh, not kid friendly. It is definitely adult oriented, but not like in a, like an R rating way, but like a PG 13 way. And it is for somebody who does not have any patience for musicals.

I will honestly tell you, I enjoyed every episode of that first season. I'll check it out. And then the second season is technically called Schmickago because it's a little more Chicago and Rent leaning because they go back to the town in the second season, but the town is completely different. All the same actors actors but just playing very different roles so if you do like those musical things i and you like comedy a little bit

then you'll probably enjoy schmigadoon yeah i'll check it out yeah i just saw chicago last month and uh a friend of ours was playing the keyboard and accordion in it and that was a not for kids show. It's 21 and up. Yeah. Chicago is definitely not for children. Okay. Overrated or underrated? Cosplay. Underrated.

Okay. Tell me why. Me and my oldest daughter go to comic book conventions at least to a year. And Lesh, I've gone, I go with least two a year. And I go as Bane a lot. Hell yeah. From Batman. I was trying to do Chainsaw Man

for this last one, but it just wasn't working out. I was wondering about the chainsaw in the background. Yeah. That wasn't working out, so I went as Bane again. I went as Jotaro from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure last year to Comic-Con. My daughter is huge into cosplay. I've gotten her so many different things. And it's just a lot of fun walking around as Bane and taking pictures with kids and other Batman. And just it's a lot of fun. And if you've never done it, I, I recommend it.

So I have a, I have a followup to that is, is, is big Murph, your daughter. I have LARP. Yes. That's a fact.

I have, I have done LARP. Big Murph is LARP essence. She's not. Yeah. Adjacent. Yeah. Okay. No, that, that makes sense-essenced. She's not. Yes, adjacent. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. Actually, that's a really good answer.

I don't personally do any cosplaying. As someone who has a lot of masks? I was going to actually say that. Because with a beard, it's actually really hard to cosplay. You're pretty much Kratos or nothing. Or the guy from uh game

of thrones well you look like wildling yeah oh yeah yeah but with all those i i have so many and they're all bray wyatt masks you'll you would know them i have the sheep mask i have the fiend mask i have the uncle howdy mask like i've got all of it um And it can be, it is really fun. So I love that answer. Okay. Bane is my favorite cosplay to go as. It just kind of, I have the right body type for movie Bane. Which is arguably the best Bane.

Perhaps. I always tell people my internal monologue is his voice. So when I need to like slow down and make sense of something it becomes tom hardy's bane's voice like doing the do you feel in charge like it's that voice it's so perfect for me um all right the last one oh do you do the do you do the voice when you do the cosplay i have to because people ask me to do it all the time. The mask actually echoes. You can get a better

impression with the mask on just because of the echo that it creates. I found using plastic beer pitchers was actually the perfect amount of echo to get that voice. Oh, he's getting up. Are we going to find the voice? Getting a prop.

Oh, hell yeah so you got through the rest of the episode with that on now i don't think your audio i don't think your audio would like it very much yeah probably not it'll be like when they first released the testing of tom hardy as bane and it was just and everybody's like we're not watching that movie. So they had to go and dub it over so that... Okay. Last one. Last one, what you got?

For all the marbles. I hope I pass. Pools in the Midwest. I grew up with a pool as a kid. And my parents still have a pool. We go all over there often. Summers get hot. As a kid, my parents still have a pool we go over there often summers get hot as a kid i loved it when i bought this house i live in now we specifically look for houses

without pools because i didn't want to take care of it yeah so as an adult overrated because i do not want to put up with that nonsense of having to take care of it. I live 15 minutes from my parents who have an in-ground pool. That's really nice. So we'll go over there and swim. They do a great job taking care of it. I do not envy that. As a kid, extremely underrated.

We always were at my house swimming. After football practice, jumping in the pool football conditioning in the summer it was extremely underrated but now currently in my life i would never have a pool yeah i forgot that noise all right well i love going to my parents and swim all right i think you passed yes cool beans cool cool cool beans you know as you said that i was thinking to myself i think we need a sound when we when we've done the overrated underrated we play something like that but not that we seem to like have a pause and then they can put something in post but that would kind of like force him do post every episode, though. I'll figure it out. I'll get a button.

I've got a whole new fancy computer, guys. It does things. I don't know what it does. So, Scott, you mentioned football also. So, what did you enjoy more, football or basketball, or any other sport you played in high school? I was a better football player, but I had more

fun playing basketball. That makes sense. What's that? Were you able to utilize your leaping ability in football? Were you a tight end or a receiver or something that could actually take advantage of it? I played tight end and outside linebacker. I was all-conference and outside linebacker.

The jumping definitely came into play for blocking punts. I got several of those. Nice. That's pretty cool. Yeah. All right. Well, that is Unpaid and Underrated episode, whatever this episode is.

Thanks for joining us, everybody. What was that? I said six. Episode six. Episode six, this one? Yeah, yeah. That's probably episode six. Yeah. You know, we didn't get to big matt again

um i think he's he's back from vacation so we'll we'll get to him soon i promise maybe even maybe even at the lift hard live easy we'll have big matt mostly squat videos um featured somewhere on this podcast and if you're listening big Big Matt, which I think you are. Yeah, I think he does. Yeah, let me know. You can find us at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast on the Instagrams. You can find us the podcast

on all streaming platforms and on unpaidinternpodcast.com. I'm Big Joey at Joey underscore Emily CZKO. Hey, Big Orange Glaze glaze where can we find you uh keith honeycutt 73 on instagram and my gym the no wine cellar and big scott dodds big hot dodds oh hot dodds that's a good one too where can we find you buddy you can find me on instagram at scott dodds underscore hook grip because i will not pull mixed grip after turning a bicep. And you can find me on YouTube under the same Scott Dodds underscore hook grip.

And I have longer videos there of a lot more of training stuff that are a lot more edited. So come check me out, check out my Jefferson deadlift competition submission. Well, you guys check all those things out and be sure to tune in next week and we'll see you next Tuesday.