Unpaid And Underrated - 009 : The Doctor Is In

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Dr. Big Jake or is it Big Dr. Jake? They dive into great topics like meeting fellow CRÜ Big Lou, PEDS, The upcomming Lift Hard and Live Easy Classic and Hugh Laurie You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @midwesternjakefrom_statefarm (https://www.instagram.com/midwestern_jake_from_statefarm/). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Dr. Big Jake.

hello everybody welcome to episode 34 of the unpaid and underrated podcast the crew cast the podcast for crew by crew um i am one of the hosts big joey i am one of the hosts, Big Joey. I am joined, of course, as usual, by Big Keith. Howdy. And this week I have Big Doc, Big Jake. We'll go with Big Jake for now because I have other things I want to talk about when I get our guest on. I do want to share some breaking news, guys. I'm going to do this before we do anything else um big travis from obsidian pneumonia um suffered a seizure last week at jujitsu so he is currently

undergoing some treatments and some tests and i don't know if you're listening big travis but you've been a big part of the crew you've been a big part of massonomics and especially of my lifting career so i just want to send out a condolences and a get well brother um and i'm sure i speak for everybody in the crew when i do that we're all thinking thank you thank you um so now um let's get into some festivities what are you drinking who's first i'm i'm knocking out a Grapefruit Bubbly. I don't know that I've had this one, but it's the last flavor in the multi-pack I got. So Grapefruit Bubbly. Is that Pomplamoose?

Oh, that is, it's tart. Very, very tart. Grapefruit Bubbly. Nice. I have a nice Polar Lime. Safety as always, of course. I would agree, but my drink insulator wouldn't fit my can. I'm getting away from the vanilla, and that's a funny story. I bought two of these. I was at a local grocer, and these were the last two cans and i grabbed one of each and the other one

is very heavily vanilla and i was like no i can't do another vanilla drink for like the fourth week in a row so i'm drinking something called candy can sparkling bubble gum drink it has zero sugar it has a wild can this can is just wild so i'm gonna give this a go and we'll rate it when i'm when we're going but it's one of them skinny cans so i couldn't get my drink insulator around it oh i was just about to like one of those old school arizona teas that are like this tall and nice girth. Oh, you can get, you can get the koozies at the football games for those.

Oh yeah. Yeah. I think, I think Joey's can is anti girth this week. Yeah. It's all about length. It's not about girth. Um,

initial taste. That is exactly what it says. It is. Bubblegum. It's just straight up, straight up bubblegum. It's not as good as iron brewum? It's just straight up bubblegum. It's not as good as Iron Brew, which I think just tastes like bubblegum, but this will do. Very good.

All right. And next, what are you wearing? I'm rocking it. How about it, Jake? I was going to come on and be all festive with my nice tie-dye Huck Finn barbell and throw everybody off. Came on a little late, so I've got the old big beefy tee. Nice pocket there. Stores everything.

Jake's putting his laptop in his pocket. That's for nice visual effects for everyone. Yeah, just got the nice big beefy tee in with my Jefferson deadlift shirt. I didn't get one of those, but I'm thinking when I'm down there, I might take a look at that. Yeah. He did say supplies were running low. I almost got one today just because he did mention the supplies were running low on the Jeffersons. But I'm just going to take a shot and see if it's in stock when we're there.

Well, I ordered my singlet today. Same, same. I've never ordered a large anything i saw you comment that i chuckled the sizing chart was very much like oh i'm a i'm a 2x and it's for like 225 and up or 245 i know it was 215 to 240 to 245 for for double x like that, that should work out good. I'll be seeing how the sizing goes for those. That's going to be tough. Yeah, I'll be there. So I can get it, try it on, and go, this doesn't fit. Maybe give me the other size if it exists, right?

If they don't have an alternative size, just do the old chargeback trick. Chargebacks. They love that. You've gone ahead and thrown us die by thigh. So what is that? So this is our good buddy Gluck, Adrian Gluck and Winnie Gluck

from Gluck's Gym on Instagram and YouTube. This is a new shirt they came out with a few weeks ago. I always like to support my brother over there. So it's a picture of Winnie crushing a skull between her thighs and it's a die-by-thigh Flux Gym t-shirt. I got that with a banner and some stickers the other day from my buddy at Flux Gym. So it's Masonomics Essence. Yep. I was honestly, I wanted to start sprinkling in because I only have so many, like, I mean, I've got a ton of Massonomics shirts. But I was like, I like the idea of wearing, like, Massonomics adjacent, you know, friends of the podcast shirts.

Like, I had a Texas Power Bar shirt that I was going to wear. Like, oh, let's work Lux Gym at least first. Yeah, no, I've thought about doing that as well. I believe. thought about doing that as well i believe a play on they're they're leaning into all the comments on their videos from some of the more uh more hopeful commentary it's always locked accounts it's always locked accounts i am wearing my lit shit shirt uh because it just is honestly it's one of the best i've got the one one with sleeveless one, which I wore yesterday. And then the half sleeve one,

it was the first thing I bought that my wife said, yeah, that's really on brand for you. I was like, yeah, it is a side note. I am shocked that there's no sugar in this. I am shocked to my core that there's a bunch of sugar, alcohols or aspartame or anything? Uh, no. Oh, wow. 4% sodium.

Like, I didn't look at anything when I ordered this, but yeah, this is shocking. I don't know if 4% of sodium is good, but all I know is this freaking heat wave, as much sodium as you get is a good thing. I don't know about everybody else, but all I know is with this freaking heat wave, as much sodium as you get is a good thing.

I don't know about everybody else, but I'm fucking dying. I'm dying. Yeah. I went outside for about a half an hour and just turned around. I was like, yeah, I'm not doing this anymore. And I was in the air conditioning. It's been rough. Even my poor dogs, they're like,'s go back inside yeah i was uh working

in a part i was so i'm working in a senior citizen the complex this week basically going in and updating all the electrical lighting uh throughout the apartments and like every other apartment not a fan on not a window open just some old dude sitting in blue jeans and a sweatshirt in a 90 degree apartment and i'm like nine feet feet in the air working on a ladder where it's obviously 20 degrees warmer at the top of the ceiling. Just sweating my balls off. So, yeah, we took yesterday. I felt like about died. So today I was like, yeah, we're good.

We're going to take a break every hour for at least 10 minutes to cool down. This is miserable. Yeah, I would, too. Well, speaking of singlets and the meat. Hey, you guys are all going to be there too? Yeah, you're coming out, right, Big Jake? Yes, sir. We're planning on it.

Nice. Are you driving or are you guys flying? I'm not sure how Midwest you are to get out to what I consider West. I think they consider themselves Midwest, but I think they, they consider themselves Midwest, but I, I think they're pretty West. Omaha is pretty much like almost directly South of Sioux Falls and then Western Northeast, South Dakota. So it's like five and a half hours. So I'm so jealous. We'll definitely be just, well, actually I'm driving up by myself. My, my wife is going to,

so she unfortunately won't be able to join the festivities, but that's all right. She'll be there in spirit. I'm sure someone can help record your lifts. That won't, shouldn't be too bad. Sure. I'm sure there might be at least one person or so that we'll be able to

videograph. I'm very jealous. You only have a six hour drive. That means you can party as long as you Uber or whatever, you know, after the meet, like you can literally as long as you Uber or whatever, you know, after the meet, like you can literally sleep until they kick you out of the hotel room the next day and just drop home.

Whereas me and a bunch of other guys got to catch the damn airplane out of Aberdeen. That leaves at six 30. We probably got to be there at like five 15 or something. So I'm super nervous about how much I drink after the meet. If I give myself like a midnight cutoff or not. I really don't know how that's going to work out, but I'm not looking forward to the after party

and having to get up a couple hours after the after party. Yeah, that won't be fun. I heard some guys were kind of making it a mini vacay and staying until Monday and then flying out. But yeah, I'm not envious. I'm sure that drive back won't be great but at least i yeah i don't have to get up at 5 a.m to catch a flight it's fine they're gonna cancel all the flights anyway and you guys will be stuck in aberdeen for an extra day

uh my job i love that like three days i know it you know it's gonna to happen. Just prepare for the inevitable. So let's jump into some more Masonomic stuff. We have a lot of general topics this week, guys. This might be a long one. Let's do as much powering through as we can. So Jefferson deadlift submissions. I did mine with the Canadian tuxedo. Keith, you did yours. I did one with my wife.

My wife, if no one's familiar, she had a major surgery a few years ago and just never really physically recovered all the way as far as getting back into lifting. So I wanted her to be part of it. So we tandem Jefferson deadlift a PVC barbell that weighs like 11 pounds with some bumper plates on it. So that was kind of fun. I really had a good time with that. Yeah was good i like i like both of them it was cool to see your wife in there too i think a couple other people kind of followed suit after you did that yeah yeah was yours the first couples one or uh grant did is i it was in my mind like as soon as i heard

about it but then i just you know we didn't get around to it until then. So I'm not going to say that it is what it is. Grant definitely beat me to it, but I enjoyed mine. Mine was a lot of fun. What about you, Jake? How'd yours go? Did you just post yours yesterday or am I misremembering? So I filmed them both on 4th of July.

Didn't get around to posting them until yesterday. They kind of went the way I wanted. So I just set everything up and I think like a week ago I was trying to figure out how I wanted my power rack and I had it rotated one way and another and then everybody was like, well, just keep spinning it. Like why not just 360? And then I thought what if I Jefferson deadlifted the power rack and did it? That would be awesome. I was out here trying to finagle some kind of rig to lift it up and keep it from rocking back and forth on me.

And after like three tries with various resistance bands and chains, it just wasn't going. So my wife kind of abandoned for a bit because tempers were running high and i just i had to abandon that and we came up with uh i threw got as close as i could to 177.6 pounds and did a nice scan style reveal with the garage door and that was how i did my main one and then the other one i tried to go for um the best I've ever done was 455 last year and just with this we we moved about a month ago so with that move and everything my strength has taken quite the toll and unfortunately when you do only one Jefferson deadlift a year it's not a whole lot of practice so thankfully I was still able to hit four plates

but uh yeah so that was kind of how mine went. Not, not as planned, but still, still pretty fun. I did 365, right? So I did 315 in the regular and then in the Canadian tuxedo 365, but I tried four plates. I couldn't even move it. It is amazing how much heavier that 40 pound difference made my life. I know. And of course I'm completely off season.

Like let's, if we're going to talk just quick, I did. My meat took a week off and then jumped back into juggernaut and juggernaut put me into the high intensity hypertrophy immediately. And then I got sick. So like, I'm just not, I'm just off not i'm just off i'm just off so i'm actually shocked i got 365 up at all because i think i'm the weakest i've been in years right now yeah that's impressive but well according to open powerlifting you're the strongest you've ever been and the strongest you've ever been at 165 for masters for deadlift only in WPF Canada and some other,

you know, searchables possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good, good segue. I am finally an open powerlifting. I am not on the WRPF website, but. That's so weird. Powerlifting was able to pull the data, but it's not on WRPF. That's very strange. I don't know. I looked and again, I remember I was telling you that at the meet, I had no clue what I

was doing. I opened up Open Powerlifting. I was like, I'm like, nobody's in here. And they're like, then you are the record. So yes, in Canada, tested, deadlift, submasters, under 165. I hold the record. Now, is that your Instagram profile what's that is that gonna yeah like yeah i thought about it i thought about putting record holder but like honestly just beat me just somebody come and beat me um however at 468 and a half pounds

i don't think that's an easy beat i don't think that that's like my deadlift isn't anything to scoff at so it'd be nice if there were some other names on there to make it look more impressive oh yeah but again that's like uh what is it who is it i think eddie hall said like it doesn't matter if you lifted a thousand and one the first person to do a thousand is the most impressive right so it doesn't matter how many little micro plates you add to that he broke a thousand and then oh we did a thousand and four shut up like you're not any hall so how was everyone's fourth of july and or or Canadian Day? I had a nice four-day weekend myself.

I took Monday off, Tuesday was a holiday. Not having to work four days was pretty spectacular. Couldn't have come at a better time. Very nice, yeah. Doing good. Came back with all digits. Pretty relaxed with us being pretty close to an Air Force base there. pretty relaxed uh with us being pretty close to an air force base there some of them claim you know you're not supposed to shoot off fireworks or audible ones because the people nearby you

might have ptsd or this or that the other well nobody listens to that so out here in the midwest they shoot them off two weeks before and we're still going here two days later so see how long it lasts but a lot of good good showings we went to a big firework display at this gun place out in west omaha i think they shot off for like i don't know 45 minutes and it was one of those ones where you're you're getting to the end and you think you're in the finale and then they just keep going and we had like four finales and finally i was like okay like it's been an hour 30 minutes of this i thought was just extra so you know i'm i'm i enjoy like you know half an hour worth but once you're into your third finale it's it's like all

right i'm ready to go home my neck hurts from looking up like i don't want to do this anymore it was my i had an okay day my kids um it's it's not very often because i work so much that i can like have a day where you're not allowed to do anything because up here everything's closed yeah i was gonna ask is that like a big ball is that a is that a holiday where everything's closed because down here fourth of july like a lot of shit's still open it's a national holiday like you you're closed right so so usually on my days off i'm like let's go do something let's go shopping let's go take the kids here let's go to the park but on that day i couldn't so i ended up just lifting and then we watched some fireworks i don't set off fireworks it messes with the wildlife but i'm not going to stop other people from doing it so we kind of just went in the backyard and and watched some fire but i didn't i will note i live outside the city

and it sounded like the city was under attack just the constant like patter patter like i genuinely i was like did russia but like no no politics but i was like did somebody just attack us like that's constantly going off but it's also like the first canada day after everything going on so that's right that we're officially out of all of it yeah out here because we're so far pretty far west it stays so bright and so the people start setting it off at like five o'clock local time in the evening but it's so sunny you can't see anything so it's like ah is that gunshot is that firework i don't know i don't know what to do oh who knows we'll have a good time

it seems like a lot of money to waste just for like the audible effect because if it's not super dark like you're only getting so much of the uh oh look pretty colors right yeah i i don't understand it apparently people like you know shooting stuff off lighting it on fire then brushing it away or leaving it sitting in driveway for a couple weeks until the rain washes it away yeah all right what is this last thing here i think this has been on here so this has been on our show notes for like two yeah i've i've put it on and take it off it just hasn't really fit in. So it's, they, you know, the hosts always talk about how they pronounce stuff funny.

And this is one that I find that Tanner pronounces completely wrong. And I think he kind of plays into it because I called him out on it a couple of times. But Cerakote, it's a ceramic coating for firearms and barbells and other metal things. But I've always pronounced it sarah coat like like sarah's coat sarah coat and tanner pronounces it syrah coat like the store that probably doesn't exist anymore sears syrah coat or like what when you cook a steak you sear it like so i just i did it always cracks me up when i hear him say the word syrah coat so i just think that's 100 inaccurate and i don't want to call him out on it.

And, you know, maybe it would make the main podcast if he wanted to give us an English lesson of how I'm wrong and he's right, but I don't think that I'm inaccurate. See, I think you're both wrong, and you are missing out the fact that this is an ancient native word. It is Syracote. Okay. Yeah, it's Syracote, and it's siracoti and it's it's uh about the greater milwaukee area okay no never mind i don't know i don't i don't use that word enough to care how it's said i'll be on that i have i have a pretty strong opinion on it what about you jake you're you're

a pretty pretty home gym guy you had heard that word pronounced or used it yourself yeah it always i mean just listening to those guys with a lot of their different words like they're you know they're nice flakes or they're bigs uh it i've always said cerakote uh even before i heard it anybody say it i was like oh yeah no that's that's definitely got to be it so let's see i i called it cerakote first time i read it. I said Syracote. But I also now think Syracote or Sorocote. Maybe I'll start calling it Sorocote just to start messing only with Keith. Well, I have a, I, you know,

now I'm going to have two orange Sorocote bars in my gym, you know, once the other one delivers. And well, those would be Sorocote. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's floral. Would it be sorokatai or sorokatai I love

randomly pronouncing words like Latin or Greek I won't say vehicle I'll say vehicles just to mess with whoever's around I'm like what because that's not technically wrong it's still the word I do that a lot to people so sorakatees is funny to me yeah go into academic

medicine your phds pronounce stuff one way and that's the right way of course and then the other side clinical or whoever they pronounce it a different way. And the PhDs, it's like, that is their life's goal to tell you you're wrong for saying that. Even like, okay, but it could go both ways. But sure, whatever. Well, this week we are brought to you by Massonomics. Nothing's changed, so we do this every week.

And it's always just a little awkward for all of us um you know go to massnomics.com join join the discord crew uh get on chat with us could be any of us could be all of us could be some of us could end up on the podcast um grab a singlet nice jefferson deadleaf deadleaf shirt uh and maybe that sleeveless shirt just gonna i'm gonna say stuff wrong all night now just to see if see if i can get any of like the little eye twitch i give keith every once in a while that's why we work so well together i have so like i naturally i'm sure you notice like like my right eye just like, even if I'm not trying to be like using it as a show of emotion, like I just have a twitchy eye. So you have to like read between, is that a normal twitch or is that a confused or irritated twitch? Did I get him?

Did I get him again? All right. Guys, you want to get our guest on the horn? Yes. Let's see if he's, I think he's in the the waiting room so let's see if we can get him to pick up alright Big Jake is that you it is

you are alive on unpaid and underrated you can swear on this thing if you choose to oh good I'd hate to miss out on that PG-13 censorship level alright I gotta get something out of the way I would hate to miss out on that PG-13 censorship level. All right, I got to get something out of the way.

I think you've already addressed this, but this actually comes from my wife. Are you Big Doctor or Dr. Big? See, when I first polled the group, the crew on this, it went, if I remember correctly, Dr. Big. Tanner, one of the hosts, has always said, it's always Big So-and-So. So it's which title really takes precedent. And it's interesting. I did change it to Dr. Big just because the crew voted. And, you know, this is kind of a democracy. So, you know, the vote won. So that's kind of how we go with it. But it's up for debate. I'm sure, you know, tens of years later, people will still be debating which comes first, the chicken or the egg, which comes first, the doctor or the big. which comes first the chicken or the egg which comes first the the doctor or the big i would i would have i actually don't remember how i answered that but i know i did

i think yeah big dr jake sounds better or but dr big jake because like are you a big doctor or are you big jake right like yeah i can see, I can see that being a noodle scratcher. Sure is. I like Big Jake MD. I could do that. However, I'm D.O., not MD. Oh. Yeah, that sounds like riding the line, Keith.

I don't think we do that around here. So what brought you into massonomics? Um, so like most people, when the Rona virus hit pandemic level and nobody could go outside or do anything because everything was shut down. Um, I lost my place to train, which was at the time my medical school's gym. Awesome facility. They had all this great stuff. But of course, because they're university, they shut down real quick. And so I was stuck training with stupid resistance bands just to keep my sanity. And that summer after my first year, bought my first equipment, kind of got into the strength training side of Instagram. And next thing you know, I start noticing these beer parody shirts. It's like, huh, those are kind of cool. And I think the first one I saw

might have been, oh, what's his name? Ben Pollack, PhD, PH deadlift. He was wearing the PBR power building massonomic shirt. And it's like, Oh, that is really cool. A couple months went by. And I think finally like toward November or so of 2020 found the massonomics page. And for whatever reason, just dragged my feet for months and months and then I was like you know what they've got their podcast I'm gonna listen to it and so I think I listened to one of their more recent episodes at the time I was like these guys are uh these guys are a silly goose time they're they're pretty cool laid back this is definitely not a strength

podcast this podcast about nothing and at the time you know studying as one does in medical school it's like i need some some stupid silly goose time and it was like june-ish of 2021 really started listening to the podcast finally pulled the trigger on a massonomics t-shirt right around Black Friday 2021. And I think that was the Nice Rack t-shirt. It's a good one. Yeah, so it just kind of popped up on my feed, and that's how it came about. But for some reason, just dragged my feet, and now here I am. On a podcast, talking about it.

Yeah. Did you ever think you'd be here never look at us look at us i made that one meme and it was like the the the meme of the steps of the clown putting on makeup and then it was like oh they do funny beer parodies and then it was like it just goes down from there and then it was like giving them money every month to chat in discord. Cause like, it's kind of like the, it's how it goes. It's how they get you. Oh yeah. Yeah.

You can't get somebody really into the inner circle. You can't fully understand. Like my wife really doesn't fully get it. I don't even talk about it to other people. And then out of the blue, I'll be like, oh, let's go out and about. And I look and my shorts are the Massonomics Lift 3.0. And my t-shirt is a various beer parody. Or I happen to wear the Massonomics is numero uno out to a public social thing.

And everybody was like, what does that mean? What is that outside of that world nobody knows about massonomics or that arnold schwarzenegger wore a shirt like it and it's a complete knockoff and so yeah it's funny though because i'll put clothes on and i'm like oh my gosh i need something that's not a beer parody yep yeah and i, now you have the big beefy tea, so you can still rep Massanomics and just look like a construction worker. You'd be golden. I put this bad boy on the other day because we were doing some orientation, and nobody even questioned it. They thought I was business casual at that point.

Yeah, that has been my new, like if I have an office day, that's been my new go-to shirt. I don't really have to wear like a work polo or anything. I'm not going out in the field. So the Mastinomics beefy shirt has been my go-to, you know, office day shirts. Oh, yeah. So what is your, here's one for you. What should you say? You've been listening to podcasts since about 2021 or so.

I'm not sure if you kind of went back into the backlog or not on it but what is your favorite massonomics running joke like of all time like what would you say just the one thing when you hear it just you bust a gut or you always give a little nose snorting oh hmm it's tough because there's so many. I don't know why, and it's probably the immature child in me, but I think every time I hear about what the hosts choose to put in the boxes of the hats when people buy their bill, for some reason, it gets's you know no matter what farts are fun until you're like stuck in the room with it and it stinks terribly but farts are who you are good answer good answer i like that oh god that's i he's turning the table on us i uh i should have asked someone who asked the question

i probably should have had one in my mind and now i'm just like got this blank stare i i'll go while you think yeah um i still probably giggle at six nine at the whole like every time somebody says six nine or 420 you do the nice nice and then I'll like run across the room and like fist bump my wife or whoever's around. And it's like, I never did that until it started happening on the podcast. Cause before it was like, Oh, that's the sex number. But now I'm just like, yeah, nice. Yep. I'll, I'll even do that to my family now.

If for whatever reason, even if it's a string of numbers and six nine comes across it just ah nice i think my favorite right and i guess the the most ongoing one is probably uh one of the hosts poorly explains something like just anything like just hearing him like just like you know he knows what he's talking about but it just doesn't verbalize or come across as well uh and like i know that i do that so it's just kind of a little kindred spirit. So yeah, listening to Tanner poorly explain something just cracks me up. Yeah, that one's good. So speaking of the host,

have you had the pleasure to meet either of them in person yet? Have you done it? Have you been to the Arnold? Have you, you know, being only six hours from the Mecca, have you driven there in person yet? Not yet. So we've only been here uh for about a month the plan is even with the the meat hopefully to make a another separate day trip up there to really get the full feel of the gym maybe do the uh which bar is which contest and whatnot uh but i have not gotten to meet them we were were supposed to go out to the Arnold this year because I knew everybody was coming. And it just kind of, as we got closer, one of our dogs, she passed away back in May.

But she started having some health issues. And as we got closer, we were like, man, we really can't just dump her on family to go down for a day of just looking at strength stuff. So unfortunately missed it this year. looking at strength stuff so unfortunately missed it this year um hopefully one of these next at least in the next two years i'd like to even though we're much much further away than what we used to be i'd like to still try and make it back there because it looked like quite the time the arnold's fun i would i as someone who i this was this year is my first arnold i don't i'm not a people person like in like well i'm not a crowds person, but I would say everyone needs to do the Arnold once and then make your own decision if you want to make it an annual thing or once every five year thing. But the Arnold was a blast.

But yeah, you definitely have the perfect excuse. You have the only acceptable excuse because a sick animal trumps anything else in life, and we all 100% agree with that. And I'm sorry for the passing. I appreciate it. I will be at the Arnold again this year because it was a hell of a time. So if you're coming, I'll see you there. Coming, hardly newer.

Oh, here we go. Nice. The hardly newer one's a good one. That's a good running joke also. So, uh, being out in Omaha, uh, we have, uh, there's another friend of the podcast and another big crew member out there. That's pretty notorious. Have you, uh, have you met or hung out with big Lou at all? I have. Yeah. Matter of fact. Uh, so last year in July,

I came out here to do, um, so in your final year of medical school, usually you're trying to find the programs you want to go to. And this program happened to fit pretty well with me. Came out here, happened to find out Big Lou lives out here. And so we actually got together toward the end of that month and had a nice deadlifting session at one of the local barbell gyms. It's called Omaha Bar barbell really nice place but yeah he he texted me he's like hey what are you wearing showed up with my uh my blue lift shirt my my lift 3.0 shorts and he comes out in the full deadlift tuxedo and he had a each of us to match so got me a miller light and then he got

budweiser and we're we pounded those while we were doing some deadlifts i brought him some indiana fireball little shooter and he brought me some nebraska fireball we swapped those and it was a it was quite the silly use time and right now we're trying to figure out a time before we head up to old Aberdeen to get another lift in. So I'm sure there will definitely be some lifts in the several years that I'll be here. I think of all the crew, I say you could do worse than Big Lou. I had a random memory. I was driving, and I just started giggling. And it's because I had brought a six-pack of Keith's to the Arnold.

And I think I was having one, and I gave one to a couple of the guys, and to Jonathan, and I was just handing them out. But Lou wasn't around. So he comes up, and I'm drinking one. I think I had one left, comes up and i'm drinking one i think i had one left okay and i'm drinking one and then he's like oh is that keats he's like you guys talk about it i gotta try it and i handed him mine and he kind of looked at it and he looked at his beer shrugged and handed me his beer and we didn't even say anything we just turned around and walked separate ways and i think it was one of my favorite interactions that we just like swapped

beers like no thought of like gross backwash or anything we were just like well we're crew this matt this is fine so that was one of my favorite interactions i think from the weekend just sorry i just had to share that because you were saying about having a drink with lou and i did pop into my head about two days ago i just i started giggling and my wife's like what's wrong with you that is a really good story I'm sad it took us like 10 episodes to get to that because that's like after meeting after meeting Lou like that's that's uh like my limited interaction with him at the Arnold that's like the complete like that's something Lou would do like that's that's great I'm glad you had that interaction yep yeah I don't even when when I met him at the gym when we were working out,

I don't even think I got like a, what's up, Big Lou or anything. He just looks at me, unzips his cheetah fanny pack and tosses a fireball. I got one out of my bag, tossed it to him. We popped him back and then it was, hey, I'm Big Lou, what's up? And that was that.

That's awesome. Now, is he the only crew you've had the opportunity to meet so far? Or is anybody else out there or any other random, you know, guys you've met? I've met one of the big Knicks. He also is from Fort Wayne, Indiana. And so we got to meet at a powerlifting meet last year. Didn't find out until like the day before that we're both doing the same

meat and that we're both from Fort Wayne. So that was pretty cool. He is the one of the agronomist specialists. Yeah, always does a lot of the farming videos. And he's a big white monster fan. So that was pretty cool. Yeah, it is. Aren't we all? I love me a white monster. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it is. Aren't we all? I love me a white monster. That's very true. Now, going more into the personal level, I just mentioned a story of swapping drinks with Big Lou. And I have it on good authority that that's probably not something you would do.

It is my understanding that you are a very health and hygiene conscious person um including a story how i don't want how do i ask you to tell it without breaking it uh but um you like a good clean toothbrush Oh, yep. I am pretty, pretty hygiene conscious. It depends on who on who I'm around. Like if it's very close relatives or some of my best friends, that usually becomes less conscious and I would definitely switch a beer with them. I would switch. But yeah, pretty clean, especially, you know, being in the hospitals, very, very focused on making sure my hands are nice and tidy and squeaky clean. But yes, I did, may or may not have definitely put my toothbrush and my wife's toothbrush in the dishwasher for a little stint. I don't know where it came from or why or how, but for some reason I heard that you could just wash your toothbrush.

And I thought, oh, yeah, after a month, it's kind of gross. Let's throw them in the dishwasher. I didn't think anything of it. Didn't notice any taste difference when I was brushing my teeth, but apparently she was not a fan of it. And moral of the story is you should likely ask your wife if you're going to put her dishwasher or her toothbrush in the dishwasher, if she's going to be okay with it. Cause she was not. And I found out pretty quick afterward to not do that again, but I don't do that anymore.

You know, electric toothbrush. It kind of, I'd go through toothbrushes pretty quick if I did that. you know electric toothbrush it kind of i'd go through toothbrushes pretty quick if i did that but yeah i'll say yes i did do that i also yeah i also wash my hands obsessively so and that's yeah shower every day wash my hands obsessively it's like one of the i think it's one of the first things that my wife noticed about me is like when i come home the first thing i do is like work clothes off other clothes on and then wash my hands. And I'll probably do that like three or four more times before I even go to bed or before dinner. So I don't know what it is.

I just don't like having dirty hands. It just bugs me. So I get it, man. I get it. Yep. Yeah. We, we appreciate your wife. She gave us a fair amount of good questions. And I think my funniest part of that story was, I think she had gave us a fair amount of uh good questions and i i think my funniest part of that story was i think she had the little end of she didn't know you did it until she was literally putting the dishes away and the fucking toothbrushes fell out of the silverware

drawer or whatever oh maybe that's that's what it was i don't i don't even think she used it after that she was so upset that she uh she saw that and just threw it away so i i think me i i would have like i think i would have felt obligated to rewash the dishes or something like that. Clearly, it's not like you don't put your utensils in your mouth, but it's just something about having your toothbrush in the dishwasher. I think I would have to just recycle, just do a whole other rinse cycle through that whole thing. So speaking of things you're a little obsessive about, I hear you, uh, you really enjoy getting your hair just right. Isn't that you might, you potentially will spend a couple hours at times, you know, according to your wife, getting the hair just right.

Well, definitely not a couple hours. Um, usually I don't have that kind of time getting, getting ready super early in the morning if I'm either going to the hospital or over to the base but I do um so when I was little I and I I still have it but a huge cowlick on right right in the front of my hair and so it's in such a weird spot where it kind of splits that it's not quite at a nice like part on the side of my head it's like almost dead centered on my head and so trying to get it to lay down in the proper directions is just like the weirdest most frustrating thing because if certain hairs aren't long enough it won't lay down right or they'll just stick straight up and i'm like well i can't go i can't look like a goon walking around

so yes i will i will definitely spend, I don't know, probably 10 minutes at least trying to get the gel action to hold everything in place. But I've got like three or four cowlicks. So my hair goes in all different directions. And if my wife didn't tell you, I have very lumpy head. So that doesn't help. Now someone that's that's been doing this for you know years have you found a hair gel or a mousse or whatever that is like head and shoulders above that you would recommend to anyone else in the crew that might suffer this uh same problem yeah um surprisingly the old spice clay i can't remember the specific name or anything that goes with it, but it's just a red can and it holds pretty well. The only downside is if your hair is wet and you put it in, it just,

I don't even know what happens, but it like, it just cements, but it's in such a weird way that it looks super goofy. So you definitely have to do it with dry hair. Um, but I've tried all sorts of different stuff. The clays usually work well, um, even like heavier hold pomades, but every now and again, you find ones that are like soup, that weird, like shiny, greasy look. And I've never, I've never enjoyed when my hair looks like that. So usually I stick to the clays cause they keep it. They, they just look normal. I was really hoping you were just going to say Dapper Dan. Oh, that would have been.

I'm a Dapper Dan man. All right. So when you're taking this long to do your hair, are the shampoo bottle and the conditioner bottle fighting in your head? Every now and again, every now and again, especially when I'm putting conditioner in my hair and I'm trying to think which one's better for me. Because, you know, shampoo cleans your hair, but conditioner keeps your hair silky and smooth. So every now and again, and sometimes there's a swan watching over me. That doesn't happen all the time. So, but yes.

Is that the impression you do? That scene? Or is there another scene? I'm feeling silly enough. I will definitely pull out the old Billy Madison scene of the dance of the shampoo and conditioner. Yes, that is a good one wonderful movie yeah i hear you quoted a lot i do i do matter of fact so i just started residency for family medicine and the way my program does things is they separate you into um groups so

you have like a attending physician who's your advisor and so on and so forth, but they do it as Harry Potter sorting hat. And so they ask some information about you and based on all that, they sort you. Well, one of the questions was what's your favorite movie quote? And I wrote down the whole quote where Billy Madison is standing at the gate waiting for the school bus about going back to school. He's got his lunch packed up, his boots tied tight. He hopes he doesn't get in a fight. And I was really disappointed and almost thought about dropping out completely because only three people in the whole class knew what the quote was from

or had ever seen Billy Madison. And it just, you know, at that point, you just give up. You quit medicine. You just work out in your garage gym and you, you know, maybe sell feet pics or something. I don't know. Damn kids don't know. Well, uh, that actually is a great segue. So speaking of feet, uh, feet pics are our good friend, uh, big mofo had a question for you. Uh,

he wanted to, uh, he wanted to, while you were in med school, have you had a chance to get start, stay smart, and use your smarts? I have, yes. That's very good. I tried my best to stay smart, and I have more or less used my smart. Every now and again, you know, you walk in and somebody bombards you with a pop quiz question and you're not so smart and you just sit there and kind of... Yes, I've tried pretty hard to keep it up. Well, so Big David was wondering then, speaking of these pop questions. No, I'm not going to ask, does this look infected? Do you ever talk to patients or about steroids?

Is that something you've ever had to do or look into or to get a little, I guess it might be a serious topic based on your reaction there. Just like, what is that like for you? Yeah. So I definitely have. You wouldn't think family medicine does a whole lot of it, but they, we actually do. And some of them, that's all they do. Like if you look at the docs on, I think it Merrick health, that is one of those big lab companies that they'll sell you hormone

replacement and stuff. Several of those doctors are family medicine trained. So we do quite a bit of it. A lot of the docs I've worked with, they aren't necessarily willing to prescribe it, or they'll at least maybe get you over to like endocrinology, the people who only do hormones just because they're like, you know, here's the risks. And I think it has its place. I think it also, for the most part, is very much oversold. I mean, you see a lot of young bodybuilders that you would think in pristine condition, pristine health, and all of a sudden they drop dead. Or they all of a sudden have some kind of crazy issue, and it's like, well, where'd that come from?

What's going on? Especially recently, one of the big time bodybuilders and kind of influencers all of a sudden passed away. And it was 30, right? Yeah, he was 30. He had talked about being on testosterone replacement and stuff and then had issues coming off of it, had issues where his body wouldn't start back up. And so that's always a problem because when you take these exogenous sources and you come off of them, oftentimes your body can't necessarily get back to where it used to be and be problematic.

But, you know, I think it has its place. I think I'm sure there is a relatively safe way to do it and cycle it appropriately where you can get the benefits. But you just have to be really careful with it. And there are some good people out there that they, they show exactly how they do it. They show the science behind it and how they cycle on and off, which meds they use and stuff like that. And so far they've had good results. They don't get too much of, you know, some of the adverse effects of when they come off of it or when they start it back up for a new cycle. And so, I mean, I think there's this place. I don't know where I stand necessarily just yet on whether or not I would get into that whole realm just because there's so much other stuff that's out there to do

um but yeah that's kind of the serious side i have talked to some people and usually they're the people i've talked to they've been on it and they're trying to get updated um updated scripts or something to get more steroids and most of of the docs are like, well, I'm not going to do it. I'll send you here, blah, blah, blah. But usually those guys aren't even like top competitors or anything. They're more often than not middle-aged men that, you know, they're tired or this or that. And so at that point, we usually try and work through, well,

is there some other cause of your fatigue or your tiredness? You know, do you have four kids and a new baby or something? I get a two year old and I'm still tired. So we kind of work through that. And then if it comes down to it and truly, you know, they just aren't producing enough testosterone, well then sure. But oftentimes they're just like, well, my buddy got it and it pepped him up and, you know, gave him a nice little run in the bedroom, kissing his partner, as Huck Finn would say. Yeah, it just depends. Usually people are pretty open, especially if you stay open with them about, you know, laying down what some of the side effects are, what some of the benefits are. And just kind of having that conversation of, hey, look, you know, I'm the doc. This is the information I know. Ultimately,

it's your choice about where we go. And if I'm not comfortable doing it, I can at least find you somebody if you are comfortable. Because from what I've seen, you know, being kind of, to pardon my French for Miss Jen, being shitty to the patients and stuff about taking that stuff or at least being curious. It, it doesn't get anybody anywhere. And usually I've found that just being open with them, uh, usually gets them the best, the best result. And oftentimes they realize on their own that they don't need it. Um, and it's not going to do a whole lot. And there's some other stuff that we can we can usually alter or adjust in their life oftentimes diet is first and foremost and when you work with

the majority of people once you work that out or at least get it kind of improved then they they usually don't end up asking afterward and if if they do, we just keep, keep giving them the information and kind of co choose which, which route you're going to go down. I was thinking that when you said like, Oh, I'm tired. And it's not the, not the beer,

the shitty diet, the lack of sleep and the no exercise. It's gotta be something else. It's like, I guess. So that would lead me. is Liver King natty? Don't answer that. Don't answer that.

Ancestral tenants. That's what our ancestors looked like. Yeah, of course. I know. That was, oh, I so, I got so into watching all that drama unfold because it was, everybody knew he wasn't Natty. And then it was like, oh my gosh, he's not, he's not Natty. You don't get that just by eating bull testicles. No, no, you don't.

No, you don't. And I, yeah, I remember the first time he came up on my, on my feed and I just looked at the guy and was like that's a grifter that dude is selling you stuff i'd never heard of him before i just watched like one of his videos it's like that dude's a grifter anybody that follows him is being grifted and then i go to find out that he's like famous and like all these people i was just like i didn't know any of that i just smelled him for two seconds on instagram it was like no no no don't follow that man yeah um let's get a little silly here have you seen it we're gonna play has jake seen it oh this is a game that we created we're the first ones to ever come up with this

no one else has ever had this concept so we've got three movies handpicked for you there, Big Jake. All right. I'm going to add one. Yeah, add it. So four movies, wide range. They're TV shows too. They're movies and TV shows.

Yeah, movies and TV shows. So number one, Patch Adams. The movie Patch Adams. Robin Williams movie. I have seen it. It's been a long time, but yes, I have. Adams, Robin Williams movie. I have seen it. It's been a long time, but yes, I have. I love Robin Williams. And then of course, when I started getting interested in medicine, that one definitely was a rewatch, but a nice serious, serious goose time by one of the

favorite comedians. All right. So that's a yes for Patch Adams. So Big Kevin, go ahead and get that spreadsheet fired up for Big Jake here so he has seen it. Number two, the TV show and or movie, because I think it was a movie first maybe or movie after, MASH. Yes. Not all of it, but I've definitely seen quite a few of the episodes. More so just because my parents uh when i was younger all we had was the nice box tv with like eight channels and mash came on every day at i don't

know four four or five o'clock maybe later but they would watch that every night so yes there's even a couple times this past year going back home over the holidays. It'll come on and I don't know why, but it's like moths to a light. We just kind of congregate around it and watch it. And no clue what happens in the episode, but it's just like one of those like, oh, time for MASH. Yeah. And if you have an older person sees my name, they're like, oh, are you familiar with MASH? You know, because there's one of the not the main character character, but I think the second lead's name is B.J. Honeycutt. It is spelled different, but it's still like the only Honeycutt really in like pop culture. So everyone's like, oh, hey, I recognize that name.

So I get asked that all the time. So number three, the Michael J. Fox early 90s movie, Doc Holliday. One of my favorite Michael J. Fox movies. 90s movie, Doc Holliday. One of my favorite Michael J. Fox movies. The premise is he is a big city doctor that gets a job out in the middle of nowhere. And he ends up just kind of being a big city doctor in the middle of nowhere.

I mean, that's a really bad description. I want to say it's early 90s, but really good movie. As someone in the medical field, I do recommend watching it, especially Michael J. Fox. I don't think I've seen it. I'll have to, I'll have to add that to the list. Is that,

I think that's because the movie is doc Hollywood. Oh, what did I call it? Doc holiday, who was a Western gangster. My bad. Yeah. Yeah.

So that, that one, you might want to ask him about his mustache. Yeah. Are you a western gangster called doc hollyday i'm sorry i was not asking you about your huckleberry so yeah my bad so if i said i sounded like i said holiday so hollywood doc hollywood as a no it sounds like and then uh number four here to close out this game uh house md oh yeah several others yep one of my favorites uh it it's become a very very

prominent meme where house is asking a lady if she uses her inhaler correctly because her asthma just will not get better and she thinks that he's just being a dick and he says well why don't you show me and she takes her inhaler sprays it on her neck. And it's just, it sums everything up because not to be rude or this or that, there are definitely people out there in the world that you think things are just dumbified and explained as simply as possible. And they come back and things haven't improved and you're like well that makes no sense it's like bulletproof and then you ask them to show you what they're doing and it's like oh my goodness okay i gotta add another level of how simple i explain this i i loved house that's why

i added it here that was uh easily one of my favorite shows from that time i don't think it held up because i think um he's so brash well there's a there's a lot of problematic language in that as well uh that i just don't think you could get away with right now no but but with that said at the time great show just just so much fun yeah so bizarre all the weird cases and somehow he always has the answer well he always he never has the answer he gets it at the end when somebody else says something and then he has to look off into space with his his english blue eyes all right keith what do we got next buddy uh i mean we

still we have a bunch of questions we could probably just cherry pick one or two more maybe how about we both just pick one to finish off. I'll go with, what are you looking for most on your trip to Aberdeen? Like, what's one thing you have to do in Aberdeen? Oh, it's going to be tough being around the meat and stuff, either pre-meat prep or post-meat prep. But definitely got to make a stop at the Mastanomics gym and hopefully get some kind of workout in because I've loved watching the videos and watching them expand and just all that equipment is so cool. And I'll probably end up getting a bench press,

some sort of bench press in on their nice ghost comp rack because that thing is just beautiful. So that's probably what I'm looking forward to most and of course finally meeting most of the crew and whatnot and competing again that'll be a lot of fun i i was hoping we would arrive a little earlier but it sounds like with our schedule we're going to be arriving kind of to crash tanner's backyard party like we'll be there friday night so i don't think i'm going to get time at the gym unless we choose to stay till monday but i was oh i wanted to go play with those atlas stones i want to go play with those atlas stones they're so much fun um i think i'm just gonna jump into the silly question yeah how about it yeah because that i like to over prepare this week so i'm full with you unanswered and i i i'm not sure where this is going to go.

I am every week. Sometimes we'll talk about it for a half hour. Sometimes it's like 30 seconds. This might be one of the quick ones. What's your favorite berry? Dingle is probably not an acceptable answer. Berry. Oh, there's a berry.

Berry. I i gotta think of like what fruits can which fruit is a berry when it switches over to just a different fruit so that's part of why i'm asking because i learned something today okay it's just the whole like the tomatoes of fruit kind of like a bunch of shits berries that we wouldn't expect yep okay yep yeah those i've over the last few years i found that out it's very weird i would have blackberries they are tart but very sweet and just like oh my gosh i could someday i hope to have a blackberry bush or something because i go through so many blackberries it's it's ridiculous here's the thing don't tell me don't say you're gonna say it's not technically a berry oh well what's a bear uh because i i saw it so i bet when i say

a strawberry it's not a berry because not a berry berries are only going to be some because i would think maybe if it only has to grow in a certain bush or something like no it has um this is crazy this is kind of giving it away a little bit and this is one of the things i learned today and i like i gotta tell you like sometimes when you learn things like this you're just like how have i been wrong my whole life so a berry is actually the shape with the seeds inside so it's a hard external skin with a lot of seeds inside so you're going to be shocked today to find out that a pumpkin is a berry a squash is a berry a cucumber is a berry a banana is a berry there's no seeds in a banana yes there is like they like not the ones we eat because we've bred them into monstrosities.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But bananas are berries, right? Watermelons? I am shocked. Those are berries. Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, all of those things where the seeds are on the outside, not technically berries. A cantaloupe would be a berry, I guess. Cantaloupe's probably a berry.

I'd go cantaloupe, I guess, then, if I have to actually know what a berry is now. Cantaloupe's pretty hard to beat for taste. I don't think I could live without cucumbers, though. You just like cantaloupes because they're orange. Don't fuck around. Oh, that's true. And, yeah, I'd have either bananas or watermelon. Probably watermelon would be, if I had that year- watermelon probably watermelon would be have that year round i would be pretty happy i do love watermelon i also love cucumber yes

story i uh started so when my daughter was old enough to you know kind of eat more solid foods and stuff i would just feed her what i ate which is usually i'll make like a heaping of ground beef and different veggies and one of the times i was like i need to add some more vegetables to this and i went i thought i was buying zucchini wasn't paying attention realized it like yeah cucumber close enough we'll cut it up, put it in there. She loved the cooked cucumber. I mean, it was to the point where I was telling her other vegetables were cucumber. And now my mother-in-law just constantly makes fun of me every time I try and feed her that stuff because she is very deeply Hispanic. And for some reason, cucumber in foods outside of being solo just cucumber with

salt is must be like a sin but she always makes fun of me for putting cucumber in with my ground beef my my kids i have um a year and a half and a four-year-old um oran's my four year old. He started it. Uh, he strictly will only eat cucumbers for, so for every dinner he has to have cucumbers and some peppers. And then like, he gets a protein on the side. And because of that, that's what his sister eats is mainly like my cucumber budget is insane up here because that's,

and I'm good, right? Good. Yeah. They're not good for you you but they're not bad for you he's not like asking for like candy and chips for dinner he wants cucumbers and peppers and then i'm pretty negligible or are they fairly carby like i guess i've never really i've always counted them as just like nothing yeah they're crunchy water right like yeah nothing there's not they're they're tasty they're get get some good water. There's not a whole lot to them. Yeah, the peppers will give them all those vitamins

and will give them chicken nuggets or something. But I also have a beard oil that smells like black licorice and cucumber. Oh, that's my favorite one. Also blueberries. I got to put those out there. Blueberries are top tier. Oh, yeah.

They market super fruits they are berries though okay that one that one is well because they have the hard shell with the seeds inside right it's true um they when they market super foods to you and all that they're lying just get blueberries like they are they are so good for you and and that's again think one of the only things my kids will eat right they love blueberries. Me too. I would put those in everything. I don't know if it's a Canadian thing because we have so much up here, but love blueberries. And that's my silly question, but it was mostly just because I'm utterly shocked to live my life just wrong.

Just wrong. I know. Gosh. Yeah. I know. Gosh, yeah. Who would have... naming stuff would name it incorrectly and lead us a path of...

It's a path of ignorance. How dare they? That is some newfound information that I'm going to disregard and just not implement in my life because that just sounds that's so obtuse that I don't want to, you know, change my way of thinking on things. Because then you'll be

the asshole at a get-together correcting people saying, well, you know, that's really not I already do that enough shit that I am passionate about. I don't want to do that about shit I'm not passionate about. It's pronounced Siricotes. Yeah, because I'm passionate. I am passionate about that. Yeah, that's

I remember seeing something. I think it was on TikTok and it was like one of those. It was like you've been doing this wrong and it's one of those like life hacks and then it just cuts to a woman just crying on the floor because that's what the world is now it's just showing us we've been doing everything wrong forever that's uh all right so we have this game we like to play uh every week it's um it's called overrated underrated it is a uh a long long list we have for you i don't think we'll do all of them of hand-picked picture um questions just for you uh you do you do have to say whether they're overrated or underrated you have your druthers and you know, you can base it on how you feel about it or how you think other people feel about it, but ultimately you cannot ride the line.

It's going to be tough. Yeah. I'm going to let Keith take a couple of them because I have been talking too much. Yeah. Go ahead, buddy. I'll kick it off with, uh, you know, my, my, my, the one that I submitted. So this will, uh, harken back to something me and you talked about a while ago.

So Big Jake, overrated or underrated? Catheter, dongs. Dongs with catheters in them. Is that overrated or underrated? Okay. There's a story. It's a good story. Oh, I know.

But now I just got to ask ask does the catheter make the difference like if you're if you see a dong you're like oh thank god there's no catheter in that otherwise this would be worse like it is so much worse with a catheter in it and big j from what i remember could attest to that but i'll let him answer and use this for others yeah it's um seeing them very very overrated the catheter itself is great wonderful tool very helpful but overall a catheterized dong that is visible is exceedingly overrated not not too much else in the world that you're just like oh that doesn't it it just makes you cringe you the world that you're just like, oh, that doesn't... It just makes you cringe. You see it and you're like, ah, that could be me.

But it's not. But it could be. I know it's there for good. But that just looks terrible. No fun. I wouldn't have brought it back up, but Big Jake did comment on it. We were talking about it in the crew chat a couple weeks ago. So that's the only reason. It was relevant to the story. And I'm not obsessed with dicks, as Joey likes to you know say that yeah what's with you with dicks yeah yeah yeah so i was gonna say like welcome to unpaid and underrated the the comedy podcast about fitness and at least once an episode dicks yeah it's such as life. So this next one is submitted by our good friend, Big Mofo. It is a military question. I'm not 100% sure how to pronounce it. If it's just if it's if it's actually a word or if it's just letters, but the four letter. So DFAC, is that is that the acronym?

Yeah. Do you want to tell us what that is? And then if it's overrated or underrated? Do you want to tell us what that is and then if it's overrated or underrated? So the DFAC or the DFAC or the chow hall or the dining facility. So D, dining facility FAC. Military loves to not only use acronyms, but use acronyms that, you know, you might use one letter and then you might use part of the word. Don't know why. It's everywhere. They'll never go away from it but yes the d-fac um you would think for military food it wouldn't be the best but i'm gonna have to go underrated

just because every now and again they'll surprise you depending on where you're at um and for the most part, they can be pretty regional. Like I went down to the good old south of Alabama for officer training school. And it was a lot of fried catfish and other similar seafood-esque foods. So they make them very regional then? Like the one here versus the one there is going to be regionally based food they can be yeah that's cool yeah and down there um they would they so most of them will label like how healthy the food is like oh

green this is a healthy food yellow ah maybe don't eat it so much red shouldn't eat it but everybody's going to well theirs in the south is very very um low on the health scale for the most part their foods would be like fried fried catfish or you know just anything that was fried but that was healthy or considered healthy down there and which it isn't but that's a different story um the only downside of going to the d-fac when you're in training is you've got the good old drill sergeants barking at you and you only have 10 minutes to eat and shovel in your food and um when you're down in alabama sweating like a whore in church you're very hungry and so you get all the foods but you only have 10 minutes so one way or another

get it in so not all of them are that way obviously if you're not in training usually you get you get some more time but yeah underrated for the most part the foods foods not terrible and it's usually usually can be a silly goose time nice love it um so has that so having basically being instilled you have 10 minutes to eat is that something you've kind of or you catch yourself having to slow yourself down when you're eating or you just run? What like is that? Do you eat fast now as someone that's, you know, doesn't have a drill sergeant staring at him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I still eat pretty fast. I mean, in in in medicine, especially when you're in like if I'm on a hospital rotation or anything like that, especially when you're in like, if I'm on a hospital rotation or anything like that,

usually you're just trying to eat food when you've got time or when your pager's not going off or a patient's not, or a nurse doesn't need something from you. So even, even to this day, I'll be, you know, like if we'll go to a family, family gathering,

I'll, my plate is just heaping full and it's still, I'll be done pretty quick. So I usually, I try and enjoy my food, but something deep within me is just like, no, we must shovel this in

as quickly as possible. It's all going to the same place. Enjoy it on the way. I know that being a doctor is like... I've seen it. I've been in hospitals. I've talked to doctors. I know it's crazy busy. I just don't understand how like all these doctor shows,

they have all this time for shit. Like, how are you having an affair on your shift? Like, You know, I don't know. And obviously I'm, I'm fairly new to the game, but that was actually one thing my mom, so my, both my parents were in medicine. They're not, they're not physicians, but they, they worked most of their careers in the hospitals. And my mom, when I first was leaving for residency, she'd said, just be careful. There's a lot of people out there. They're looking for the nice, young, good-looking people. Just be careful. I know you would never do that, but there's people out there. So I guess it happens. I've, I've yet to accidentally open up a broom closet and catch a couple kissing or necking. And they had a baby and the baby looked at me. Yeah.

Who knows? But I don't know. Cause it, depending on, depending on what service you're on, it's yeah. Sometimes you don't have time to pee. So I don't know how they get it in. Maybe they're just bad at their job. Who knows? But if you had a catheter in your dong, you'd have time to pee.

That's right. All right. So I'll wrap up my last one here. So overrated or underrated from our good buddy Scott Dogzilla, lifting belts. Overrated or underrated, lifting belts. Hmm. Godzilla lifting belts, overrated or underrated lifting belts? I don't use one a whole lot.

I used to, and then just, I don't know. I felt like I was kind of mentally relying on it too much. So I don't use them a whole lot, but they sure as hell look cool, especially when you order some of the custom ones. I probably would get back into it if I had the right one i i think overall they're underrated though i mean it's it's a good way to learn how to brace um or at least you know activate your own body to kind of push against the belt um i think they're good the i think my one druther would just be, you know, you see a lot of younger lifters and stuff, especially with the broccoli cuts that they wear them all day, every day thinking, you know, they're the shit or they need this. It's going to protect them. And then you see them and they look like a dog having a shit in the backyard trying to pick up a deadlift.

a shit in the backyard trying to pick up a deadlift and you're just like oh i want to just tell you no but i don't want to be that guy in the gym that says or gives you advice but you're an idiot so yeah i think they're overrated or underrated just wish some people realized that they weren't going to protect you from everything all right good answers i'll hand that over joey now to bring us home he can uh hand pick whatever three of those he wants i guess yeah um i got all of these from our our very good friend of the podcast big jen um she gave me a lot so i'm gonna pick and choose some of these overrated underrated lifting in the dark oh she must watch some of my old videos i think i think it's pretty underrated so a lot of those came from um later on in medical school i

was usually lifting like at 4 a.m and it, I don't care how, how, how awake you want to be turning the lights on was just miserable. And so that, that's why I ended up getting a nice little led strip. I'd turn that on and that was enough light for me to like, I don't know, focus on the ground. So I wasn't like toppling over when I was doing the squad or whatever, but definitely underrated. I think lifting in the dark is, is relaxing enough, but also gives you the, the nice feeling of just going to the war with the bar.

Yeah, actually I am with you on that one. I've got a, an led strip that's music activated. And a lot of the times it's just like, it just shut everything off, especially if I'm benching. Okay.

Overrated or underrated. Now she put scrubs. So I'm going to ask, I'm going to let you decide if she means the show or the clothing. Tough. Could go either way. I would say both are underrated, but I'm guessing she's going toward Scrubs the Clothing, which are essentially glorified pajamas when you get the right. They are the bee's knees the cat's meow they're

they're good they're comfortable and it's become such a kind of like the athleisure movement the past several years the luxury scrubs have become quite the movement and you see people all decked out in certain scrub brands and you, you know, you look at them and they've probably spent a couple hundred dollars on just one outfit. But they sure are comfortable. And it's almost to the point where they've, like, met the equivalent to business casual. So you'll see people in the hospital or wherever wearing scrubs with their colleagues in, you know, shirt and tie because they're old fashioned. But you look at each other as like, Oh yeah, we're wearing the same thing,

even though one's a pajama and one's a super nice suit. But yeah, definitely rated. I remember as a probably middle school, that's when doctor's pants started to become a thing. Everybody wanted to wear. Yep. Yeah. That's it. It all just cycles around. All right. Last but not least, and I hope you can fill us in on why Jen thinks youier. I, my medical school was in Indianapolis. I lived, oh gosh, barely a mile and a half from the Indian, the big Indianapolis motor

speedway. Always a very silly goose time. I've actually only been to the race once, but usually, so it's over Memorial Day weekend, and usually I will watch part of it. It is another excuse to drink beer and cook out and be on the lake if you're near a lake. But it's usually pretty fun to watch. They've got a lot of festivities, especially if you're down in Indianapolis. Some of the old-time racers who kind of got it popular, they've stayed there. And so their headquarters are like across the street from the raceway. And they've got

restaurants and stuff right there. So the place itself is fun. Everybody's drunk. You've got the Snake Pit, which is just a huge mosh pit of drunk, sunburnt young adults that vary in ages probably from like 15 up to mid 30s depending on who's there and they're all drunk and definitely regretting not wearing sunscreen the next day but it's uh it's definitely a fun time i would say for sure underrated it's you know racing's racing and two hours of a car going around a lap isn't the most exciting. But this year actually had quite a few crashes, so that's always, you know, as long as the driver's safe and doesn't get scuffed up too bad, they're always usually pretty cool to see because it's just, I mean, a car crash at 200 miles an hour is just something else. Now, was the Tide car involved in any of these crashes? Was there a Tide car rolling over at all was there a roll tide yeah yeah yeah

uh parking back you know what though it would have been really funny if there was as long as everybody was okay just for the amount of times i probably would have got tagged in that yep but unfortunately yeah so indie andCar is kind of akin to F1 series. So you've got more of your luxurious brands that are usually sponsoring those or the cars or, you know, either. Actually, I don't, I think most of them are either like Toyota or, you know, Chevy cars. Honda usually has quite a few. So it depends on who's racing what. Are you telling me that Tide is not a luxury brand?

What do you use, Mr. Fancy Hygiene Laundry Detergent Guy? Oh, I use Tide, for sure. Nothing gets you clean like the nice nice detergent work of tide i'm over here using president's choice and you're telling me it's not luxury all right well that runs up overrated underrated i don't have a cool beans button um i've been thinking about it we had should we i was gonna say should we ask the public you know the crew to suggest or are we just gonna figure it out on our own i think i was gonna say should we ask the public you know the crew to suggest or are we just gonna figure it out on our own i think i was just i think i'm gonna hope yeah

i think i'm gonna figure it out i think i actually have an idea it's just a matter of if i could pull something if what i want to do uh doesn't interfere with our algorithm because it will be a sample if i can get our producer big nate hi i I hope you're listening, to pull it out. I just don't want it to get flagged. I think I'd have to keep it short enough or something like that. But I think we're working on it. So please

tune in next week and the week after and the week after and eventually we will have a post overrated or underrated audio track to play for you guys but then i have to figure out how to do it like how does tommy make noise go into the like how does i think they have a whole soundboard like they were we're recording to laptops they're recording to a soundboard that they can push a button on i'm not sure i wonder if you could just play it from your phone and just stick it up to your microphone how bad that would sound probably really bad but yeah that actually might be the i mean that might all right

uh so the the last part is something keith always looks forward to and i'm i do too as well um is the the guest actually gets to ask us a question all right so whatever you got fire away okay i had to do a little digging for some of this but big joey what is our best in your opinion for a bloody mary sorry what garnish is correct what toppings what garnish is okay so i'm imagining this is going to need a little explanation. In Canada, we actually drink Caesars. So we don't use tomato juice. We use a clam-based tomato juice called Clamato juice. So we would call that a Caesar.

I don't drink Bloody Marys, and I rarely drink Caesars. But the garnish would be... I used to, when I was a bartender, pride myself on making really good Caesars. But in a bar where you're just going fast stuff, you can't really work with garnishes. I always like to say that the garnish should go with the flavor profile you're going with for the Caesar.

And that's going to come down to this type of hot sauce you use. I used to put beer foam in my Caesars because I thought it, I gave it a bit of a better consistency. Um, you know, and are you making a gin Caesar? Are you making a Jager Caesar? Are you making a tequila Caesar, which are my favorite. So typically you'd want to use just a piece of celery just uh and that's it because it just gives you something to chew on if the bloody mary or the caesar gets too spicy but there's also these little sticks they can get up here in canada they're strubs and they have a pickled onion a pickle and a pickled pepper all on the spear and you can use those as well now there's some places

that get stupid and they'll put like a slider like a whole just mini burger on their caesar or like a cake like a cake like like it's just they make a basic caesar that has no flavor and then they just garnish it with a salad. It's ridiculous. I don't think they're paying enough attention. There's an episode of Letterkenny in the last season where they do the Caesar off, and technically the Skids win, in my opinion,

because I do think that their one Caesar that they made was infinitely better than all the other ones. Very good. Thank you. that they made was infinitely better than all the other ones very good thank you quite yeah i i i saw as i was scrolling through all your posts i found that and i found the letter kenny and i was like oh perfect yeah that episode awesome just every christmas morning now because of that because they letter kenny's released on christmas morning here in canada oh so i wake up every like that's our ritual with me and my wife as we wake up the kids do their presents and then go play with your presents me and mommy are gonna watch one or two episodes of letter kenny and then they did that and i paused it and said well i could use

a caesar and now every christmas i I have a Caesar ever since that happened. That's awesome. Thank you. Good question. That is a good question. You've not made any other guests has really done much research. So I'm anxious to see what you got for me. All right, Big Keith.

If you had to choose any one article of clothing to wear forever, that was orange. Which article of clothing would it be? And why is it orange socks? It is orange socks a thousand percent because they're the ones I get off Amazon. They have a slight compression to them. So I've, I'm on my feet all day at work. I stand on a ladder all day, standing on like a two inch ladder rung with a, with a, with a flat foot. Like it's so painful to where like, I got to like take breaks day, standing on like a two inch ladder rung with a with a with a flat foot. Like it's so painful to where like I got to like take breaks. I've even like I've even resorted to my boss gets pissy when he sees me do it. But I bring my own ladder, which is like a platform ladder and stand on that.

It's like, you know, I'm standing on a solid platform rather than like two inch rung. So the socks have been an added benefit because it's like wearing compression all day long on my feet. So it's helped with like feet swelling immensely. So they're not like full blown. I wouldn't consider them like medical compression, but they are considered like a compression athletic sock. So they are amazing. They are super comfortable. They are orange.

They're the bees knees. You know, I literally have like 15 pairs of them now. And that's the only sock I wear unless I'm going to a funeral or something and I need to wear a black pair of socks. Perfect. Oh, yeah. I love the socks that aren't quite compression like socks, but they've got that nice little squeeze. It definitely helps. Yeah.

The most annoying thing is like there are right and left uh like labeled socks so a lot of times if i don't actually have a chance to put my laundry away so i'm digging through the hamper to find a clean pair of socks and i find fucking seven lefts before i find a single right and i'm just like what how is this possible like how is this mathematically possible that i i found that many lefts without a right or vice versa so that's the one downside to them how is it box and they're they're not together or maybe they're together but they're all like left left do you go afterward to try and find the left right or are you good with just two lefts yeah how are socks physically left and right like are they are they sewn differently are they differently? They have to be.

There's no way. I'd have to investigate. I'm not crazy enough to wear two left or two right socks. That would hurt my OCD immensely. It's not physically possible. I could not put two left socks on.

I think I'm... Blindfolded, would you notice? i will tune in next week and i'll give a two-minute recap oh i'm absolutely writing sock update in this don't you worry because that is i'm curious enough to i because i don't want it'll almost piss me off if i don't notice a difference but if i do notice a difference and i'm like vindicated but i would imagine like it has to be like like there's got to be a i don't know there there has to be sewed a certain way or like the arch is configured to like the left angles in this way and the right angles in that way i would assume but if not why the fuck would you get a left and a right it doesn't make sense on socks

though especially compression socks because they're gonna they're gonna move with your foot yeah i don't i know i've gotten certain pairs just because I like the color or whatever. And they happen to have the left and right. And when you first start, they look the exact same. You know, they've got the curve, but they're straight on both sides. There's not like one that's longer and shorter. And but as you wear them, I will say, like, if if I got out a pair of socks and they were two lefts i would notice because i've just i've always yeah i'm the same way i can't wear two lefts or a right on the left and a left on

the right it's got to be left and right because now it's to the point like i would notice because the sock is so worn in that position that now tell that oh this is definitely the right sock but it's on my left foot i can't have that i gotta switch now i think we're gonna have to tag in some some massonomics wives on this one and have them just like not tell you and like just hand you a sock and you put it on your foot and walk around for a minute and be like yeah okay this feels right and that turns out they're both right socks or both left socks and it shatters your whole universe it would i have mortal kombat socks that say mortal and on one and kombat on the other and i'll tell you i actually don't care what and how they go on and i now i'm wondering like are they supposed to

like are they supposed to go on in a way that you can so anyway good question favorite mortal komb combat movie joey uh so like full disclosure they all suck yeah what is there's like three theatrical released one well the second one i don't know if it made it the actual but then there was a uh there was a couple like mini series that i was gonna say that like those were better than yes movies all suck the youtube series yeah that stuff so they created these youtube like previews for like like the what if universe like what if this was it and they were set in the real world and like baraka wasn't a monster with knives in his arms he was a serial killer who cut people

up right and it was things like that where they kind of tried to make it a little more gritty and realistic but because those weren't those were amazing but they were technically just cosplay but they would in my opinion be better than any of the movies the most recent movie that came out um you're you're getting me on this one now you always get me right at the end and i just start like i just start going off on shit we never end up finishing the podcast we're getting better at picking threads though i don't know i love kung fu movies so i watch a lot of um particularly asian american made kung fu movies and because of that the most recent mortal combat had a lot of names i recognized and a lot of faces i recognized from other things i watch right so you know so they had some of the guys from that marco polo show on netflix which

was really fantastic some of the guys from warrior which is also on on crave is like those guys were all in it so i got excited just seeing that was it a good movie no the main character being completely made up with the stupidest power in the world he gets beat up so hard he forms armor like what is that crap and he has like kinetic like he doesn't exist in the in the in the mortal kombat universe they made him up for this movie you've got unlimited games that you could have pulled literally anybody out of and made a main character out of but they just invented a guy so i didn't like that but i would say that like as a kung fu movie it was pretty darn good it was pretty darn good and having nathan jones in it was really fun too he was also made up there

was a lot of made-up characters that aren't in any of the games and that gives them more liberty to like not piss off like the loyal they're pissing you off because they're not using more original characters but you can't necessarily be mad of the direction they took a made-up character like you know you didn't stay true true to this character story because they pulled it out of their ass so yeah they they made the so the scorpion and and sub-zero one was technically true except for the time frame uh so that was really cool um having raiden be almost useless was interesting considering he is he's one of the main characters um johnny cage is going to be in the next one they said and i think that they've already cast him and i think it's going to be pretty i think it's a big name that they've cast him as uh which is kind of neat uh so yeah

fun story i saw the first world of combat i um my me or my brother nope me my brother my mom won free tickets from a radio show and it was the first movie i ever went to without my mom oh cool yeah my brother took me and the radio they had the the radio was there and they had like the the company there and they were giving away prizes but because it was mortal kombat i think i was like 12 or 13 i had all the answers to all the trivia questions and i ended up winning like a frisbee but then 12 or 13 i had all the answers to all the trivia questions and i ended up winning like a frisbee but then i asked if i could trade the frisbee for the book because they had the book of the storyline of the original mortal combat and i i swear i read that book

probably five or six times 1995 the first one came out yeah Yeah, so I would have been 11. Nice. Sorry to hijack your closing arguments there, Jake. Did you have anything else for us? They were both great. They were right on the money. We always give people their brothers. You can ask us three questions. You can ask us one question. As long as you ask us something, we don't really care.

No. This has been great. A lot of fun a lot of uh dirt that was dug up yeah you're not mad at like some like you told them about the toothbrush big thanks to big jessica for giving us all the dirty uh details on her uh husband all right i do want to give you the last word though uh big doctor dr big jake um i've spoken about it before on how when people find out what i do um it usually results in them trying to make me work for free i've mentioned it multiple times before as soon as they find out i work with cell phones the first thing they want to do is tell me about a problem with their cell phone. So like,

is that happening to you a lot? Like people are just like, Oh, you're studying. Tell me about this. Does this look infected? How's this cough? Does it happen to you a lot? Never all the time. Hey, we were, we sold a couch that we didn't need anymore. And my wife got mentioned something and the lady just kind of went off with a problem that she had and it was pretty in depth and she was giving me all the deets and like, I'm sorry.

I don't know. Yeah. That's weird. Like, I, I'm sorry. I can't do that. Like, oh, that's weird. Yeah. I've had, I mean, even as, as far back as like, I don't know, before medical school, I had relatives that would, you know, I got this problem.

Yeah, what do you think? You know, hey, can you prescribe this for me? And I'm like, I'm not even a doctor. I can't just hand stuff out for free. I can't just hand stuff out for free. I can't do that. So yeah, people will, it's, it's, it's tough because I definitely, I'm a people person. I like to help people. Um, so trying, trying to figure out the right balance of not wanting to hear the full problem, but also trying to give some little, maybe pearl it's been, I've gotten better at it, but also trying to give some little maybe pearl. I've gotten better at it, but for the most part, I'll still listen to the problem.

But yeah, people all the time, they find out it's always something. Or it's not even like, hey, how are you doing? It's, ah, yeah, so twisted my ankle. What do you think? Does it look bad? Does it look swollen? What should I do? I don't know.

If it's bad enough for you, go to the hospital. Go see your doctor. Yeah, you do you. I don't get paid. So what you're saying is you don't want 30 crew members to come up to you and ask you, you know, how does this look? Can you help me? You know, you don't want to see everyone show you their rashes and their broken thumbs and all that shit next week. I definitely don't want to see any catheterized penises. That's for sure.

Well, I guess, Big Matt, just stay on vacation. You're not invited to the meet, I guess. You can't come out. Well, just move to Canada where apparently we don't look at them. Well, I think that's it. I'm ready to call it a night. I have been Big Joey. Joey underscore Malesko.

Oh, check out our latest Instagram post where I teach people how to eat a flat wing. Because I know we talked about it on this podcast once or twice. And then I was eating wings and thought, well, I might just make this little video. It's performing well already, but I think that if that's something more that you would like to see us do follow-ups on and talk about posting things like that, let me know by commenting or hitting the like button. Speaking of Big Matt, we did not get him on again. We're really starting to drop the ball on this one, guys. Next week, big Matt, we'll give you a call. I promise.

Um, guys, where can we reach you? All right. So go ahead and follow the podcast at unpaid and underrated podcast. Do check out the website, unpaid intern podcast.com. I'm big Keith. You can find me at Keith honeycutt 73 on Instagram and follow my orange gym at the no wine cellar. And what about you?

Big Jake, where are you at buddy? I am at a Midwestern underscore Jake underscore from underscore state farm. We didn't, we didn't even ask about that. The, the jump from insurance to doctor. We didn't even ask about that, Dean.

No. The jump from insurance to doctor. We'll have to tune in next year when we circle back through all our old faithful regulars. Once we've exhausted the hundred crew that actually want to be on the podcast, we've got to start recycling, guys. So tune in in 2025 and a half, and we'll get the follow-up to Big Jake. There we go. And in the meantime guys i think we're all set here so we will see you next tuesday