Unpaid And Underrated - 011 : The Real Mole

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

This week Big Keith and Big Joey get to know the real mole, Big Eddie, or as you may know him, The Cornfed Highlander. They dive right into great topics like the spice girls, welding, and food discord channels. You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @cornfedhighlander (https://www.instagram.com/cornfedhighlander/). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Eddie.

good afternoon evening or good night welcome to episode 316 of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by the crew for the crew featuring the crew completely developed by crew starring crew and that's a lot of crew um i'm here almost every week i'm big joey i am joined of course by big keith howdy and big eddie hey how's it going going all right big eddie um let's dive right in for the first time we do a lot of diving right in around here that's that's our mo so uh keith what are you drinking i am uh following up last week's with another liquid death this is the severed lime i already had a couple sips it's it is better than whatever i can remember which one i had last i think i had i had a mango yeah i had the mango last week i had a berry i think in between um i did take your advice and get the plain sparkling water the unflavored one and it was actually really it was surprisingly good but

this lime one this lime one is better than the other two flavors and i'm not sure if it's better than the unflavored or not yet until i'm done with it probably but it's definitely better than the other two unflavored is the way to go. Big Addie, what are you drinking down there? I've got a beverage here called Henry Winehard's Orange Cream. It's a gourmet soda made with cane sugar. Probably too sweet for the other podcast hosts, but I like it. And I'll be bringing some couple of flavors by this brand out with me to the lift

hard leave easy classic i always pick them up whenever i can out here and uh when i'm a little bit further west some of the grocery stores carry it so i'll have some root beers black cherries and some orange cream it's a vanilla cream but yeah it's good stuff. Good, good. I am hopping out. I am just drinking a ghost greens supplement. I've been overdoing a little bit of the living easy lately. And I needed a bit of recovery, some electrolytes, some greens. You know, after the thing with my arm we spoke about before recording, I was just like, nah,

I'm going to just get some. And then I ate like burgers for dinner and didn't really have a side. So we're just doing some, we're just, we're old. Okay. We're old over here. So I'm just drinking some greens. Wait. So since your, your son eats cucumbers every day, but you'll never, you didn't eat a couple of cucumbers a burger i had a couple of his because he wasn't eating okay like that's not enough this is also got like probiotics like the ghost supplements are pretty pretty darn good right me and my stomach issues i really wanted some some probiotics today um i have a quick question though you're in in where right now eddie um i'm in ann arbor michigan right now are you north of me right now, Eddie? I'm in Ann Arbor, Michigan right now. Are you north of me right now?

I might be. You're going to Google that. You might actually be up north. I mean, I'm like straight west of Detroit. Where are you at again? I'm in Hamilton, so basically toronto no i'm south ah

there's parts of michigan that they go up that little mitt oh absolutely yeah no i'm just outside of detroit and uh in fact i actually if i hadn't been so busy this weekend i was gonna see if i could drive over to run into you. Oh, that would have been amazing. But also I'm also slammed getting ready for the weekend. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Is there something going on this weekend? Everybody's getting ready for it. Yeah. Yeah. It's the lift hard, live easy classic. So that little thing. Right.

And it would have just for clarity, just to keep everyone on the same page, this pod, we were recording this podcast the Tuesday before the lift have, just for clarity, just to keep everyone on the same page, this pod, we were recording this podcast the Tuesday before the Lift Harder, Live Easy Classic, but it's not going to come out until the Tuesday after. So this will not be the meat recap episode. Tune in next week for that one.

Or we could just do a completely fake meat recap. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't believe Jonathan Oldham did all of that. Can you believe this person showed up? Are we're gonna predict who's gonna bomb out oh big big man for sure right one of the mass i think we're gonna get him on today to talk about it yeah we'll get him on here in a little bit that's actually good that'll be a good topic to bring up when we get him on the horn now normally normally i say hey guys what are you

wearing and we all talk about our favorite massonomics shirts and then that leads into what got you into massonomics but it looks like i'm the only one dressed to the party and i understand you just came from work eddie so like yeah i got it like you needed that colored shirt um but i think that we're all just mass non-mixed out at the moment because we're probably all packing away our favorite shirts but i've got the cozy going yes i uh got home from work today and my wife frantically wanted me to get all my stuff packed so we could kind of verify if we need to do a carry-on or not or a checked bag that is we could fit everything in two carry-ons or not so i had to pretty much

get all my gear that i know i'm gonna wear the next three or four nights packed up so i you know just kind of overwhelmed and i was like oh it's it's 8 30 it's podcast time and i'm still wearing my you know house shirt didn't go out of my way to get a massonomic shirt on and it wasn't going to go back upstairs to look for one because we had we were pretty much hitting record so tune in next week and i should be wearing a Masonomics shirt. If I have any left, I might just flex out of them at the Lift Hard Live Easy. There you go. Just put them on and flex hard out of them. All right.

So moving on, let's get this last little segment out of the way before we get into the real diving in. We're just going to rate last week's episode. I'm going to go first because i haven't had a chance to listen to it now we are recording the same day that ours came out which i also haven't listened to uh because i've only had the kids in my car and with the kids in the car you do not get to listen to anything that is not what they want to hear you know the moment i turn on the radio and that little bluey symbol comes up because the bluey album's on there that's all you're listening to for the next two hours uh so i'm gonna go ahead and give it five jd power associates good rating thank you that it probably earned it you know uh

you actually will enjoy it so i listened to the whole thing uh yesterday on my drive to work uh nitro could talk man dan, they asked him one question. I actually, I don't even think they asked him a question and he just immediately dove into a 45 minute conversation just about his entire history of steroid use and this, that, and the other. It was actually a really, you know, cool. I enjoyed that. I did actually, it did motivate me to go. And I had already started the muscles and mayhem, but I think we only got like halfway through but after

listening to nitro's episode i went back and finished it uh and uh the one negative one of the one of the several negatives that i probably found but the one i'll bring up the most is i don't know what was on what was up with nitro's audio but jesus for a guy that claims he was doing podcasts all day long he he was the worst audio in the world uh it might have been better in AirPods or something, but listening to it through my Bluetooth in my work truck, I had to crank it just to be able to make out what he was saying. It was very distorted, but a great interview. Probably one of the more famous people outside of, I mean, it's still fitness and everything, but it was a very obscure guest, but I really liked it. So I'll go ahead and give it a 5 JD

powers. What about you, Big Eddie? You know, from what I've heard so far, I thought it was really good. You know, I enjoy enjoying the intro and kind of the information. Pretty excited to, you know, someday they say we're going to get another silly pint, maybe someday. So someday we might be able to enjoy adding another silly pint to the to the cupboard and enjoying my wife being all annoyed with me about that but uh you know excited for that excited for the jefferson deadlift competition winners you know it was a good competition i enjoyed it i uh i've kind of given it up on ever winning again and i've heard other people tell me that because of my relationship with those guys that they don't think they'll ever let me win and i'm okay with that because i still have a lot of fun and uh but uh it was a good competition and and i enjoyed it

so really good episode um i'll also give it a five jd power awards that's good that's good so i got a question for joey here uh kind of i have i have a handful of questions don't get to all but this one i i kind of got it made me chuckle you were talking about how you uh all your tattoos were just kind of spontaneous but just stuff that happened throughout your life and whatnot however you described it so how many episodes of the unpaid and underrated podcast we need to record before you'll contemplate getting the unpaid and underrated podcast tattoo tattoo oh so we have to hit like 300 like 150 like i mean i i don't know because i'm all tattooed out right now like i'm we're not saying that one it was yeah no there's there's literally no pressure just more of uh like the last week

you mentioned you got a spider-Man tattoo because someone said, Hey, go climb a ladder. And you're like, Oh, I'm gonna get a Spider-Man tattoo. Oh, that was three years of, Hey, you're the best in the ladder. Get out there. Right. So, so then that that's the baseline. So three years. So if the podcast last three years, you'll get a podcast tattoo. You heard it first on episode three 16. Yeah. That was 11 weeks in. Yeah. You're going to enjoy this, whether you like it or not.

I don't know. I don't right now. I'm just all tattooed out. It might be a big tattoo you get, but you're getting a tattoo. I was wondering what that was. Just ask a tattoo question. I was like,

oh, it's going to go anywhere. Yeah. It kind of hit me. I think sometime this this week i don't remember i was like oh i'm gonna i'm gonna throw that in there um one quite one this is more of a quick follow-up to the because we had mentioned there was some power ranger talk last week of the theme song and i think maybe the video game also so right before i just saw like a you know not a

meme but just like a you know the picture with some like captions on Facebook or whatever. It was basically a picture of Zordon from, was it Zordon? Was that the guy that was just, yeah, Zordon. So that guy, whoever the actual actor was, filmed one day, filmed like, you know, 30 catchphrases or whatever. And they used that for the entire run of the first, you know, whatever, however often it was that particular Zordon. And they paid him $150 and never called him again.

And that's... What about the movie, though? Yeah, I don't know about the movie, but the whole point of that was like, and they were trying to imply that's why the Screen Actors Guild is relevant and helpful, so take all that with a grain of salt. I literally saw it on like a 90s

kids message, a Facebook group or something, but I don't know. Oh yeah. I'm going to go ahead and mute that guy. Actually. No, I'm not. Let's bring him in. You want to think he's doing, give us a thumbs up, give us a thumbs up. If you want in. Oh, not today. Oh no. He's at a pickleball do you think you are we'll let him listen in though we'll let him listen that was good power rangers from last week yeah um well while we've got one of the hosts listening you've got a little point here you wanted to bring up

about uh the food discord. Yeah, yeah. This is more of a Nate thing. But was it Nate that kind of pushed it or other people had been asking about it? And Nate was kind of calling out the admins of the main discord. And then a few days went by and nothing had been made in the main podcast thread. So we do have a private Discord basically for podcast guests and people, the founding fathers of Unpaid and Underrated. So Nate went ahead and made up a food Discord. And then, you know, lo and behold, within 24 hours, there was a food and drink Discord in the main podcast.

So, you know, I don't know. I think Tanner's just got the site to see what's coming. Yeah. But no, that was just a friendly little rivalry. See you in a couple of days, buddy. We get nothing in our, you know, our discord is just the little sister, apparently. So we do all right, though. That was pretty fun.

Yeah. we do all right though that was pretty fun yeah for those of you who clearly didn't catch on um one of the hosts from the sister podcast jumped in and decided to uh to grace us just so that we could call him out on stealing our discord uh and i i am glad i went with the beard because that is a that head beard blowing in the wind made me very happy with my choice last week where I chose his beard over Tommy's hair. Speaking of beards, did Joey ask me to ask him about having a beard at a bar? Because you did mention you were a bartender. I'm assuming there's something to do with that. It's all right.

So, yeah, I just wanted you to remind me of this because, you know you texted me we talked about beards last week a little bit and i know eddie's got a beard and you've got a beard um i don't think eddie's gonna go to bars very often but do you guys know um i forget the name of it but there's this rule that if you introduce a handgun in the first act of a play or story, it has to be used in the final act. It's just a rule about writing, foreshadowing and things like that. Okay. I have not heard of that. There's an actual phrase. I wish I had looked it up.

No, because I was like, I remember to remember that phrase, but I've never remembered it so uh the thing i've learned is if you're in a bar after 8 p.m and if you're sitting by yourself or even with a friend or two if anybody asks you about your beard that person's gonna try and fight you what it's a guarantee and if there's any guy anybody that's got a beard that that ever goes ins or bars or anything, they can back me up. This is from personal experience? Yes. And the last time it happened, I was sitting and the bartender is a friend of mine. So sometimes after work, I don't come home right away because it interrupts the kids going to bed.

So daddy being home is a reason to not go to bed. So she'll just tell me, just go to the pub and eat and come home when you're done. So I'm sitting there and I'm eating. And I just said something to the bartender, like, like the other guy, this guy had a beard. And I just said, like, I hope he's not going to ask me about my beard. And she says, why? I was like, because it's just, I know it's going to be something. Sure enough, the first words out of the guy's mouth are, hey, I like your beard.

How long does it take you to grow it? And I looked at the bartender and I was like, here we go. Probably an hour goes by. And this other person was with like in between us. They go outside for smoke and they come back in. And then the lady that went out with him was like, yeah, this dude swears he's going to fight you tonight. And I was like, yeah, I know. Like, I know.

It's not though. It's a guarantee if somebody asks you about your beard in a bar they're gonna try and fight you before you go so i just wanted you just asked me about the beard and i was just like just remind me to tell that story because you know well yeah i mean it might not come up for a lot of people but yeah i also try not to go places after 8 p.m. if I can avoid it. Well, speaking of people picking fights for no reason, did everyone catch the guys on Instagram giving the drink spotter some hell this week? I think it was a couple different instances.

Our buddy Gluck had a video where he dropped 800 pounds on the piece of shit squat rack. And, you know, the whole thing was like, like hey the drink spotter didn't move and then someone in the comment said something the extent of oh yeah if i'm failing an 800 pound uh squat the last thing i'd be worried about is my fucking drink spotter falling or something like that and another guy said something just like if i ever see this in person i'm gonna throw it across the rooms it's such a piece of shit something so anyway that's just what's on it you know the drink spotter's getting some uh some some some hate by a couple douchebags on instagram and youtube you know i just want to call them out and tell them they suck they hate us because they ain't us there you go it's not new for for either weak-bodied or weak-minded people to be that way on instagram like oh it says more about them than it says about

the drink spotter or gluck or massonomics like and they're almost always locked accounts all right or they're always fitness coaches that have somehow don't post physiques like it's just we get it dude like we get it okay now go away like you peacocked through the the comment section made everybody look at your dumb comment maybe some people took your bait um but ultimately like take your tiny penis and go home i brought it up first today i was just gonna say that um so let's see um i can touch on this quickly i don't it literally just came out today you guys sure you didn't watch it yet but uh tanner did another collab video with that uh

that jake that jake the fit friend i think it is uh this was a barbell basics they just kind of talked about the difference between a powerlifting bar an olympic weightlifting bar a deadlift bar and a squat bar it was actually you know it was pretty entertaining i did learn one little thing that i've always considered my Texas squat bar 32 millimeters, but that's what I've just always called it. And, you know, Tanner actually corrected everyone and said it's 31.75. And I, I didn't believe him. So I went and looked at the damn website and sure enough, it's 31.75. So, uh, you know, call me corrected. So, but that was a pretty cool video. So go, uh, support, support Tanner and support, uh, you know, that Jake, the fitness, the fit friend.

Forgive me there. Just had to mute for a second. You're good. So Big Eddie, what do you do? You want to take a crack at guessing on any of these never seen before. Masonomics merch they've been hinting at. I don't know. You've been so busy at work. I don't know if you saw one of the hosts. I want to say it was five different items, maybe seven different items that have never been released plus some paraphernalia that we'll get a buy to.

Well, I think there's going to be some sort of a drinkware. That's my first guess. drinkware. That's my first guess. And man, I don't know. I don't know if they're going to have a new shirt. I kind of feel like they are going to have another shirt besides the meat shirt. But the rest, I don't know. Do we think that the slides

might actually make an appearance? I don't know. I think we think that the slides might actually make an appearance I don't know I think there's literally two pairs of slides and they were like samples and they didn't turn out great and I just dropped them and he just has been kept him in the background for the last six months to cock to you I don't I don't think he would do that though if they weren't going to move forward on it true so that's kind of my thought I think the slides are going to be the big drop there. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm trying to think. The thing with slides, it's like the thing with footwear is, I mean, even though they're slides, you still got to have like, what are they? Maybe you'll have one that's like an 8 and a 10, an 11 and a 12, but you still have to carry at least four or five sizes.

You can't just have like one. Large, medium, small. Still, that three sizes minimum. Medium. Extra medium. I think we're going to get the fanny pack.

Really? There's been some talk of that. One has been confirmed. Two have been hinted. The strength co-callers. Those have been confirmed. Yeah, I don't know if I'd call that a massonomics drop, though. That's a strength co-drop. That's fair.

Tanner did hint about fanny packs. And I've been looking to replace my Justin Bieber one, so I wouldn't mind getting a massonomics one. But I'd also think that we're getting a barefoot collaboration oh yeah yeah we definitely talked about that we are getting that this is coming out after the meet so we could say that because he told us he was like he said

something on the discord about uh if you've been looking at getting another pair maybe wait till maybe wait till the meet i'm so mad about that i just bought the salmon ones because i was like they're so pretty well yeah i don't blame you for that i mean that's a limited edition in of itself yeah and then they're not even here yet because chicago's on fire apparently so nothing's moving through ohio um yeah so they're not here yet but uh you know the silly pint i think we're getting as well now didn't we is that is that just a silicone cup or is that something is that like the more like the like the metal tumbler i'm guessing confused because he because he definitely showed they've already showed pictures of uh like

the next boob cup like the little rubber cup thing yeah so silly means silicone oh okay so yeah there's there's there's a boob cup because they don't that's just a brain they call it silly pint because it's a silicone cup that holds one pint gotcha well yeah that's that's all that you were saying it like you weren't sure but i swear it's been on i'm pretty sure it's been in their stories at least twice in the last couple days so but i know you're busy and you probably haven't seen too much of their stories. No, I saw a lot of their stores. I can't remember what the logo on it was. Was it just Lift Harder, Live Easy Classic?

Yeah, it's the classic logo. So you think there'll be a logo on top of that? Or just that? No, I think it should be the Lift Harder, Live Easy Classic. We will see in a couple of days. I don't know if they'll do banners or not. I don't know. I don't know if they'll do banners or not I don't know I don't know we'll find out I'm pretty curious

as well I'm curious to see if there's something that's we're totally not expecting but I don't know regardless people's wallets will be lighter than when they entered I'm almost worried about like buying too much shit and then having to be like this this has all got to fit

back with me, or I can just be like, Tanner, here's $30. Can you mail this to me in a couple days? I'm going to $5. $5 shit. Well, yeah, but if I buy more, and also he's going to be so overwhelmed that it's the stuff that you have to buy

exclusively there that might sell out, and then I'll be like, hey, can you put those in the back of your truck and send it to Anika? You know, he'll be like, just go find Jack. Yes. You know, Jack will send my shit to you. When you go to check in, you can always have on multiple shirts on, you know, there's, there's tricks to that. You know, you can wear your lifting belt around your waist as you go through security and get it checked and put it back on. There's ways to get around that. And that carry-on bag isn't weighed.

Unless you're doing spirit or something, they don't check the weight on your carry-on. I've had 70-pound carry-on bags before just because that's the way it worked out. My carry-on coming back from home gym con was ridiculous because we won the Irwin Fitness Roller Jacobs and they're like 12 pounds a piece or something so I had to add a solid you know almost 30 pounds to my carry-on that was very unpleasant when I went to go throw it up in the air yeah so how's your uh how's your meat prep going Eddie you are competing correct you're not just going for the party. I know last time I talked to you that you're having some knee issues.

Has any of that kind of worked its way out? Some of it has, some of it hasn't. Yeah. I am definitely there to have fun and I will pull what I pull and I'll have fun with what I do. Some ways my shoulder is feeling better than it has in the last year and a half, but I've definitely still lost strength. My knee has been bugging me a lot. Got some fluid drain, got x-rays, got an MRI. And then all the doctor had to say was get a steroid shot, which that doesn't, I mean, yeah, it might numb the pain, but it doesn't solve anything.

So I actually went to chiropractor here in ann arbor and he went all he did everything he checked everything and my knee is feeling way better so uh he adjusted my shoulder as well that one's feeling better too you know they're still not 100 but i am much more confident about that if at least i can now do full range of motion with my knee and which means between wraps and warmups, I don't think I'll have any problems pulling doing my, uh, my squats. And then he wasn't bugging me on deadlifts either. So it's just pretty good.

It definitely got in the way of my training and, and, uh, kind of killed any sort of a peak, but that's okay. Cause, uh, you know, I'm there to have fun and, you know, my numbers aren't anything to really stress about anyway. So yeah, it's been great. It sounds like you might not have caught Tanner's video last week where the whole, the whole premise was, uh, you know, don't compare yourself to other people, just kind of,

it's you against yourself, just have fun, et cetera. So yeah. Yeah. I haven't watched it yet, but yeah, I mean of it's you against yourself just have fun etc so yeah yeah i haven't watched it yet but yeah i mean it's i do the same thing with highland games you know i don't go to highland games to beat other people um once i became an a-class competitor that that went out the door um you know i go to have fun i go to entertain the crowd and if i can beat some of my numbers then i'm even happier you've done probably you, you've done so many Highland games, they don't let you compete in amateur no more. So you've got to go against the big boys and toss all the,

I'm assuming like the implements are all bigger and heavier and you've got to go longer distances and all that jazz. Yep. Yep. I'm sure we'll talk to our guests more about this kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we had maybe one last thread if Joey wanted to pull on. If not, we can go on to the sponsor read. Nah.

I mentioned last week we didn't even talk about the launch of Threads, but then they covered it on our sister podcast. And I've been on Threads. I've been on Twitter for something like 11 years. And all of the people that said, I'm not learning that. I don't know how to use it. It sucks are now joining threads and they suck at it. So it's not going to replace Twitter because all those people that don't know what they're doing and admitted they never want to learn are now trying. that content creation gets a little better. Threads isn't going anywhere, I can tell you that. Like Meta's, like Tommy said,

Meta knows what they're doing. But I don't think it's going to replace Twitter anytime soon. Yeah, I downloaded it, made an account. I hated that it wanted to put a number in your profile, so I immediately deleted that number. And then I think I actually deleted Threads off my phone the other day. I did get a new phone, so I went through it put you know a number in your profile so i immediately deleted that number and then i think i actually deleted threads off my phone the other day i did get a new phone so i went through it and purged any app i wasn't in love with just to kind of clean out a clean house i

might re-download the app but it's having an active account so but yeah i'm not overly uh motivated to have a fourth social media platform that i have to post gym shit and personal shit yeah all i can say right now is if you're on the fence you don't need threats that's my expert opinion right now now um i missed it there um let's jump into a sponsor read before we get our guest on the horn now were we gonna have ed Eddie do the sponsor read today? He was going to take the brains at it. All right. All right. Well, welcome, everyone. And today's podcast, The Underpaid and Underrated, is brought to you by the one and only Masonomics. It's science. So if you ever wanted to learn how to get big, how to use your strength, and, man, I'm really butchering this. This is great.

If you ever want to learn how to get strong, how to stay strong, and how to use your strength, you just turn into the Mastodonics podcast, where we don't talk about reps and sets. podcast, where we don't talk about reps and sets. They don't talk about training programs or anything like that, but they talk about everything else involved with lifting that has nothing to do with lifting. So it's a great place to check out. It's a lot of fun. And, you know, we'd love to have you out on the Mastinomics to listen to it, join the community, join on the junks, jokes, have some fun and check it out. All right brought to you by massonomics good good i was really hoping you were gonna go this is massonomics and the country music would start in the background i had a few thoughts but it's been a long day i forgot them we appreciate you taking care of that so how did they get sam elliott

all right should we get our should we get our guest on the horn yep yeah let's let's get cfo cornfidge ready to join us on this podcast interview all right let's kick all these other chumps out and we'll bring in um big eddie is that you oh yeah brother big eddies in the house oh yeah welcome you are live on unpaid and underrated no warm-up we're just gonna jump right in all right let's do this um okay first thing we started this last week and i think i'd like to keep doing it um so we know you're corn fed highlander yeah is that who you are on the Discord and Instagram? Let's make sure people know to find you and so that they know who we're talking to.

Yeah, I should be the same on both of them. I think my official Discord name is like Fat Man Down and then the nickname for the Mastanomic stuff and everything else is like Corn Fed Highlander. And that's what I am on Instagram as well, Corn Fed Highlander. All right. That's the spirit. We found you.

We found you. Now, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, you and I came in about the same time to Mastanomics. I think. Probably. So tell us how you found us tell us how you found massonomics and then why it appealed to you and then suddenly i remember you're the mole so i remember seeing the uh the great gym tour stuff by uh what's that guy it's like Keith's favorite YouTube guy I can't remember his name now his name uh Hooper Mitchell yeah that's it yeah yeah yeah so he was doing that tour and he visited Mastodonomics and I don't remember what I was watching of his that

went on to that and I was like man that's pretty cool Mike that's really funny these guys have some funny stuff and uh then I just kind of left it be um I think I like went on the website looked at it and then um sometime later I started seeing the uh the first Jefferson Deadlift Contest videos and I was like oh this is awesome and then for some reason I thought it was gonna be like an annual thing so I actually planned out what I was gonna do the following year um and I was like, oh, this is awesome. And then for some reason, I thought it was going to be like an annual thing. So I actually planned out what I was going to do the following year. And I'm like, you know, I think I'll do this. Maybe I'll win a T-shirt next year, blah, blah, blah. So then I started following a little bit more. And I was like, you know what?

I'm going to the Arnold in 2020. I'll have to stop by and meet these guys. And then, of course, that didn't happen. So I bought one of their shirts online because they did a sale. And then I really started following them more. and then i finally started listening to some podcasts and uh listening you know some of my favorite favorite athletes and i thought well i'll listen to their episodes first and see what they have to say and then before i knew it i started at the front episode one and working my way through nice so you have done the entire backlog, do you think?

For most? There's been a couple, but I'm like, I'm done with this. Usually those involve CrossFit. Yeah, Tyler had a bunch of those that were pretty boring. Some of them were a little much for me.

He listens. I mean, he did a great they just it just wasn't for me the interviews that he did of people that i had no interest in i guess let me put it like that like i like i like the girls that we are the future of powerlifting or whatever like the female powerlifting one that i don't think they even exist anymore like that their their page doesn't exist but uh he did good interviews just He picked a lot of people I didn't enjoy. You could say that some of those interviews were all just the same. There was nothing

different about them. They all sounded the same, huh? They all sound the same. See what you did there? Alright, so I always figured you and I, because I jumped in around Jen Thompson, which I think was 247 or 250. that was about when i was

getting involved yeah which kind of leads me into the next point i think you and i talked about this at the arnold because we hung out at the arnold that's why i kind of assumed we came about the same time and i've got i've got a whole a whole list of how many people has eddie met how many famous people has eddie met tell us about the lift banner like everybody wants to hear about how about how our flitter dinner went and met everybody in massonomics very nice very nice so i will say we met at the arnold and we spent most of i want to say saturday together right like i was i was hopping in and out of the booth you spend a lot of the time at the booth same here yeah um but so like tell me like what forget naming everybody you've ever met because that's just ridiculous if everybody's that interested um maybe i'll get

eddie to post a picture of his flag there's flag sorry my banner yeah yeah the banner that has all the signatures so i want to know eddie to wrap up my rambling why why have you made it your mission to just meet as many of us as possible. And why is it so cool? I think, I don't know. I don't remember how much of this I was doing before the massonomics thing, but I just, you know, through Highland games, you learn that you just, you can just walk up and talk to the pros.

And with a few exceptions they will talk to you and they will be they'll be really cool with you and they don't mind and that kind of stuff and and like i remember being at pleasonton back in 2015 and hanging out with i mean he didn't say much um but he was just you know there with us the whole time and and got like my phone with him stuff and. And it's just like totally cool. And it kind of made me realize that like, they're just people. Right. So as I've, you know, gone through this stuff, I travel for work. And then even when I'm on like vacation, it's like, well, what's, what's fun.

Well, to me, meeting people's fun. I'm very social. So I enjoy, you know, looking people up, but I think the really tipping point on the Mastodonics side was when we were all still on Instagram, you know, making friends and, and chatting on everyone's posts. And I saw that big Lou went out to big Jen's meet. And I saw that they met up in real life. And like, I was like, oh, sweet. Like these people don't just do this whole podcast thing and the strength thing. They actually like, they're open to meeting up with people in real life because for me, um,

like I've done that before in the strength community. Uh, when I first got into powerlifting, um, the guy that I lifted with, he got me onto Dave Draper's website, iron online forum, and they hosted a bash. My training partner hosted a bash at his house at Fort Leavenworth. And like, I don't know, 60 people came and all these people I've met online and interacted with, and I got to meet them in person. And it was a blast. And so to me, it's like, you know, the way we are online, the way we interact really is a reflection of who we are.

And so if someone's cool to chat with online, they're more than likely they're pretty cool to chat with in person. You know, if they're creepy online, they're going to be creepy in person. If they're funny online, they're probably going to be funny in person. You know, they might be a little bit more shy. They might be a little more outgoing, you know. But so as I travel and do this kind of of stuff to me it it brings more excitement and enjoyment to uh to my journeys on the road that's incredible and you are leading the way in it like it's it's i've got my little flag that has a couple names on it i think i have shane hunt

which i think yeah i don't know if you grabbed him while we were there no one should be sleeping on shane he's a great guy. Don't sleep on him. He is actually really fun. Convince me. Yeah, no, he is really fun. So everybody has it. All of the people that wanted to say, how many have you met? Name everybody you've met.

That's weird. That's a weird remember everybody thing. No, even if I was looking at the list banner banner there's some signatures that i can't read and i do feel kind of bad about that because i was like oh i don't know who that is like i'm not for sure if i could i correctly identify it but for the rest of it it's it's just been a lot of fun and i'm like you know it i thought hey maybe i should have something for people to sign and to get you know as i meet people and like shoot let's just do the get, you know, as I meet people and like, shoot, let's just do the lift banner. You know, it's white, easy to write on. And to me, it, it makes a nice piece for the gym. You know, there's the joke. There's another podcast that talks about how the massonomics followers are like the third strongest lifters in their home gym. Well, I mean, you look at my lift banner,

I'm, I'm not even close to the third strongest in my home gym. And I'm fine with that. To me, that's the way it should be. No, that's fantastic. I can relate to that sentiment as far as having a banner with signatures in your gym that you're not in the top level of lifters. Basically, I have people sign a banner in my gym that have just lifted here. Basically, the rule is if you've lifted here at least twice or you traveled more than an hour, you get to sign the banner. I've got like 20-some signatures on it,

and my goals just keep getting it signed the rest of my life. But yeah, Big Eddie is on there. And I make a point to tell them, like, please write your name legible, especially now if you're hearing the story that you can't read someone's name. That even makes me more emphasize when someone's here. So I always have them just sign first and last name and date it and just make it as like just basic as possible. Yeah.

Well, yeah, that's fine. I like the Arnold was top tier fun. Like the, the most fun I've ever had. And I think we're going to recreate or enhance what that was coming this weekend.

I think there's going to be a lot of just utter silliness, utter stupidity. If anybody even gets a little serious, they're just going to be gently removed. Right. Like it's just going to be, I think there's some people that don't know what they're getting into. I think that like,

there are some people who signed up for this meet who maybe don't know the discord and they're going to go in there thinking this is like, this is my chance. I'm going to power live in. We're all going to just be dummies and if they are then they're locals yeah or even like i'm not even positive lindsey gray is maybe she is right she doesn't really post silly stuff herself so um i think she doesn't know i think she's i think she's she's hip she's hip to us yeah yeah she did a good job on that on the interview uh now i called you flitter dinner and you gave me a smile that's you know thank you stephanie for all your uh good uh feedback

on big eddie yeah we have lots of nicknames in my house and i think that's one that stuff came up with and we've run with it and uh you know we just like nicknames we we have a you know our son he's five years old and um i heard somewhere once that like nicknames are a form of like manipulation or like grooming or things like that. Or like you change someone's name, you don't call them by their name and it's a way of subjecting them. And so I've made it a point then that when we have these silly names that no one in my house is alone in that silliness. Like if I call my kid, if I call my son a flitter ditter and he says he's not,

then I like make it a point to say that I'm a flitter ditter and that mom's a flitter ditter and like all that kind of stuff like i turn it into something like we own it like yeah it's just something silly and it's only meant to be silly and yeah you know so yeah so i like doing that kind of stuff we kind of run with it and uh you know uh i grew up with with bad nicknames and good nicknames, and I like good ones, and I think they can be a lot of fun, so we try to do that. Yeah, I call my little girl, I used to sing, little girl,

and I just thought, fuck, that sounds weird. It was giving me bad vibes, so I changed it to squirrel. So now we just call her squirrel. Like, whenever you're referring to her, like, where's the squirrel? Yeah, so there's, you know, positive to her, like, where's the squirrel? Yeah. Yeah, so there's, you know, positive little names.

And then she just started climbing everything. No, I hear you on that one. Good call. Yeah. So, Danny, that play, we heard that up until I think you were about 16 or so, your family called you Ed, and then you kind of took it upon yourself to be like, lay down the law of I am now Eddie. And now I hear you, there's apparently a thing that you do you go around the house multiple times

a day and say i'm an eddie i'm i'm an eddie i'm an eddie i believe he sings it i'm an eddie yeah is there a story with i'm an eddie no and or and or picking the name eddie as a as a yeah there is a name for picking Eddie as my new name. I always went by Ed. I never liked any other version of Ed. Like if you called me Eduardo, I would not know that you're talking to me. If you called me, you know, Edward or anything else or Eddie, I didn't care for it. And then when I was 16, I said, you know what, I'm having a birthday party.

We didn't really have very many of those especially like invite friends over kind of thing and I'm like you know I'm doing one and I'm gonna do like a luau type and uh I thought that Ed's luau just didn't sound that good so I made it Eddie's luau and then I just ran with it and uh it just stuck and now that's what I do so I've got some friends that knew me from before that and they still call me Ed and I don't care. And some of my family still call me Ed and I don't care. It doesn't bother me anymore. Now I'm, I'm much more open to whatever they call them. Yeah.

And then the other thing, I don't know. It's just, it's just a thing that I do at the house with my family. I remember when I was taking, I want to say psychology class, or maybe it's, yeah, psychology. There's something about the three different types of people within us, like the little professor and I don't remember the other two, but one of them is about like, you just have fun. Like you act like your kids and you have fun.

And like, so when I'm with my family I try to have fun and I try to relax and that helps me unwind and not take things too seriously and so yeah so it's not uncommon in my house to hear me say that I am an Eddie. Makes sense as far as uh living your life to your fullest and enjoying it the most when you are with your family because I you know I know you personally and I know you travel up to 25 to 50 percent of your, you know, your your your weeks and at a time. So, you know, that makes it extra valuable to really enjoy the home life and to be present with your family. Yeah. Yeah. And let's see sorry speaking of no you're good uh but pulling on the family thread

uh yes stephanie had mentioned that you have a lot of family members that are kind of concerned about your lifting uh then like we'll periodically have conversations with you and talk you out of power lifting and highland games because you're gonna hurt yourself etc is there uh is there something good there is there anyone among us though eddie that like whose mom hasn't texted you and been like i saw that post like you got to be careful you're gonna hurt yourself and it's like oh my god no i'm not oh like you're gonna run into problem mom just i know what i'm doing yeah and you know for my mom, I totally expect that. Cause my mom worries about everything and you know, she loves me and you know,

she's, she's, she's super overprotective and all that kind of stuff. And like, I remember, so when I first started powerlifting, I used to drink a lot of soda, like a couple, two liters a day was not uncommon. And I drink a lot of soda and stuff and like that. And after a couple months of lifting, you know, I was gaining more weight because I was eating more and I was lifting. So I was, you know, I, I'm sure I put on some muscle, but I decided to kind of get after it.

So I did kind of a little bit more of an extreme diet. It was just like protein shakes So I did kind of a little bit more of an extreme diet. It was just like protein shakes all day, all week for 28 days. And I lost like 35 pounds. And you look at the photos of me and I look like amazing and all this stuff. And it was funny because while I'm doing this, I craved healthy food only. And so when I got off it, like I only ate healthy food for like six, seven months. And it just blew my mind that my mom, who like hounded me for years about my soda consumption is now upset with me because I'm lifting weights.

I'm going to hurt my back and I'm going to be like, break my back. And I'm just like, I'm like, well, one second, like I'm doing something good for my body. And now you're upset. Like you've been bugging me about taking care of myself for years and now I'm doing it. You're upset and uh but you know like joey said you know it's my mom yeah if she wasn't concerned then that would be a bigger problem um but yeah i've had i've had other siblings that don't have any interaction in my life at all but then they will like call me up after a competition it happened a few years back

and he's like i don't know man like i just don't want you to become disabled and not be able to take care of your family and i'm just like lifting what are you talking about like i post a video of me throwing a sheaf event in highland games and you think i'm gonna like destroy myself you know and it's just funny to see that kind of stuff and you know and people will always people who don't understand what's going on will always have that kind of stuff it's but i'm also the youngest in my family i'm the youngest of five kids the baby so yeah and that's all they ever see me as they see me as baby eddie they call me the golden child because i watched all the stupid mistakes they did and I didn't repeat them,

you know, and like things like that. And, you know, so yeah, but it's always funny that people, people will worry. And, you know, my wife's no stranger to that. Um, when she was in her early twenties, she started running and her mom just gave her all this grief about how bad it is for, and all of this kind of stuff and all you know all of her health metrics went way up she was doing really good taking good care of herself and she started lifting and once again her mom started going in about how it's not good for you blah blah blah I'm sure that's something that you guys have never heard you know from someone that that uh these these extreme sports are going to destroy you you know know, like I'm getting into running as well. Like I've been off and on with running.

I've got some 5Ks this year. And like, I just know people are going to tell me about how running is bad for my knees. And it's like, well, it can be. But if you do a little bit of research, you can find out that there's ways to run that are not bad for your knees. You know, just kind of like there's ways to run that are not bad for your knees. You know,

just kind of like squatting. Everyone knows squatting is bad for your knees, you know? So yeah. Yeah. But it's just part of life. You roll with the punches. If I had a dollar for every,

um, old person, specifically older men who would see my deadlift and go, you got, you better watch your form and it's just like buddy i just i just deadlifted your total like don't tell me yeah um i always like i always like to tell the story of um so we live with my dad and um back when i was still going to the gym uh he he would always he would make fun of me a little.

Because the gym is, you're just going there to socialize. You're not really doing anything. And I was just like, dude, you don't even know. I go to the gym, I don't talk to a single person. They're lucky to get a head nod out of me. And then one day we were in the backyard, we were taking down some trees. And the way that it had worked is one of the trees landed on top of the other. But we needed

to move both of them and i'm talking full-size trees and he was like okay i'm gonna go get that rope and we'll go get that and i was just like just move and i picked up one tree and used it to move the other tree and he never once made fun of the gym again. I have some stories like that too. And I always love that. Like at my work, you know, they really didn't know what to make of me when I got hired into this position. Cause some of these guys have been working together a really long time and they now like get it, you know, like one of the guys who loves to introduce me is the guy that picks things up and puts things down. But it's true. I do this demo equipment and I go and I load and unload equipment out of my truck bed by myself that has handles for two people to lift. And I'm just like, I don't have

time for this. Let's go. Let's get it done. I was like, I don't need a forklift for this. Let's just pick it up and go. Did I tell you that story last week, Keith? The forklift story. No, when we were moving my mom, I was kind of annoyed. I was kind of annoyed at how slow it was going, to be honest with you. And we had the elevator,

and the truck was outside the elevator. You'd load it to the elevator take it up and then take it down the hallway i didn't tell you this no i just i got a freaking hamstring cramp at the moment so that was my facial expression so i'm in the elevator now because i'm just moving stuff and then i go back down and uh the guy that was there loading the truck he was supposed to have help but they left and he goes he's like oh well i think everything on there is a two-person job and i looked and i was like yeah yeah you're right why don't you take a break can you grab me a water and i sent him upstairs and as he was gone i picked

it all up and moved it myself to the end of the thing there was only one i couldn't get because it was a couch and like it was just awkward awkward, but it was so funny. He came downstairs. I was like, just help me get in the elevator. It's not, it's not about him. Right. I'm not mocking him. It was just, it's about like, places to be man. I got stuff to do. Be careful. My mom's like, no, you be careful lady. Like you're yeah. Yeah. I can attest to Eddie uh pickup truck loading and unloading ability he uh he did it in my driveway big that's uh so i'll make a little origin story of how big

keith and big eddie met a couple years ago uh back in the free discord days when all you did was just follow random people that got re-shared on you know massonomics main story and that's how you grew your little crew you know this was like before crew existed so you're know, massonomics main story. And that's how you grew your little crew. You know, this was like before crew existed. So you're just your massonomic circle. You know, y'all had like the same 10 mutual friends. So Eddie saw that I was looking for a certain style of stall mat because I'm very OCD and I want everything to match in my gym. And I couldn't locally source the same style stall mat up here. And Big Eddie was out, you know, on a road trip at work and was buying some gym equipment. And he's like, hey, this DM me. We'd only had a minimal interaction dialogue back and forth.

He's like, hey, Big Keith, you know, there's this lady selling some of these sawmasts that are exact ones you're looking at. You know, I'm going to be up in your neck of the woods in a few months. I can just buy them for you and just hold on to them for a little while. And I was like, well, you really don't have to do that. I feel horrible. And you're like, not any convenience at all. You you know took it upon himself to buy me I think two or three stall maybe four so I might have been four it was multiple stall mats uh full four by six three hundred yeah full four foot by six foot hundred pound stall mats that we all have in our

gyms and yeah he held on to it for a few months yep yep then with the diamond patter uh and then on a road trip up on a work trip when he still had this territory he dropped him off and grabbed a workout with us took me and my wife out to dinner had a great you know massonomics you know friendship bloomed from there and yeah that was uh and now you've got a and now you i think since then basically uh you know one of the hosts must have saw that story and knew about it and now you're're mulling out 3000 pounds of York dumbbells out to, you know, out to Aberdeen. I really hope he pays for your double gas mileage because I'm sure your truck is not loving all that extra weight. It's not too bad. It's not too bad. No, I've also done stuff for uh for big daniel big big daniel um i you know i i

was raised in uh a church community that you help people move you move people and you move people out and like when i was a teenager like my young men's leaders would just like call me up be like hey we gotta move be outside your house in 15 minutes we're picking you up you know we just go move people and um like i had a job for ups once and for my qualifications i was like well i've moved five people in the last three months like i can pick things up you know and they're like all right sure you know but uh yeah so to me it's like yeah i don't have a problem with it and one time my wife was giving me a hard time i was picking something up for someone and helping them move some gym equipment she was like why are you doing this why why are you you don't know him and i was like well i've met him she's like you don't know him you don't i'm like look i said honey i've given my entire saturday to people

at church that i've never met before i can give my entire saturday to someone i have met who doesn't go to my church like if i want to do this I'm going to do it and I enjoy it. So to me, it's fun. Cause I like, I like, uh, meeting people hanging out with people and helping them. So, yeah, no, it was a great, it was, that was a fun opportunity. And that lady we bought the stuff from, she was kind of weird, but you know, she was into fitness industry to make money and not about having a good time. And, you know, yeah, we got those stall mats to you, didn't we?

Yeah, man, I really appreciate that. And fitness. Yeah. Buying fitness equipment, you're going to meet some weird people, that's for sure. But with that, you probably have a little bit of a safer edge than some other guys out there with a little bit of your background. a safer edge than some other, you know, guys out there with a little bit of your background. So if I recall, you are a former self-defense instructor or you have some history in self-defense, if I believe. Yeah. Yeah. So I used to work for the Army back in 2008 when we entered a recession. A third of the company I was working for got laid off. We entered a recession. A third of the company I was working for got laid off.

And me and some of the other people were looking for work and, you know, everyone was looking for work. And I heard about an opportunity to work for the Army as a student hire. So that got me back into college. That was the first time I went back, back to community college at home and part time there and full time work. And I worked for the Army and I was doing pretty basic office stuff, nothing super exciting. And this one guy would come in and visit our office every now and then, and just kind of like talk about stuff. And some of the other guys who worked there knew him better. So they would talk about martial art type things. And, and, uh, so one day I asked him, I was like, Hey, is there any of that kind of stuff on post, Hey, is there any of that kind of stuff on post? Like, is there any of these opportunities to like learn more about it? He's

like, Oh yeah, we train every morning. He's like, you should just come join us, you know? And so I found out about what was going on and there was no like official courses on post, but there was some, some folks that were, that were certified to teach, basically. They completed the instructor certification, so then they were then taking it and teaching just anyone that wants to learn, whether they were officers or enlisted or civilians. And so I started going. I learned two different systems. The first one's called Lines Combative, and it was developed back in the 80s, And it's all about repetitive motion that you learn the same movements over and over again, so that they are muscle memory.

So that like, if someone tries to do whatever you just immediately react. Um, not one was pretty cool. I really enjoyed that. Um, you learn little things like it takes 15 pounds of pressure to break the average wrist, you know, little stuff like that. Just some other types of things like, you know, how to how to move, how to move people around and how to defend yourself or how to easily break bones or dislocate shoulders and stuff. And then they did a the Army combatants program at the time. I got to do the level one instructor course for that and that was a lot of fun that one got a little bit more into uh jiu-jitsu jiu-jitsu and some ground some grappling um and then like as you advance on they do more like takedowns and things like that more advanced uh standing up combats um and so i i really had a lot of fun

with it it really uh definitely boosted my self-confidence when it came to interactions like i reinforced that i never ever would want to get in a fight with somebody because you never know someone's background like you cannot look at someone and know what kind of skills they have um it reinforced that i do not like getting hit in the face at all when we would do like the boxing sp reinforced that I do not like getting hit in the face at all. When we would do like the boxing sparring stuff, like, and I'd get popped in the nose. Like, I don't know if it was like an emotional trauma thing from my childhood, but like, I did not like it at all. So like, I'm the type of guy that if I get in a fight, I'm not going to swap blows with

you. I'm going to like pick up a chair and throw it at you. Or like, I'm going to like tackle you and then like sit on your chest so you can't breathe kind of thing. Like there are so many other ways that I'm not going to be swapping, swapping punches, throwing hands. And then I did get a chance to help train the 705th MP Battalion. They're getting ready to go downrange or in other words, go to the Middle East. And they had reached out asking for some more training. And so, you know, the guy who's doing the class said, hey, who all can come help out? And so I went and gave a day of my time and got to teach them and kind of go through the basics and do some mock knife stuff.

So like if a prisoner has like a, you know, a prison shank or something. And that was a lot of fun. That was, that was pretty cool. And I'd say the last thing about it that I like to always kind of share is when we did our certification test, I feel really bad for the guys on my team because we would go through certain drills and they would have to go run around the baseball field. Well, I'm not very fast. And I was also like the heaviest guy because I didn't have to go run around the baseball field. Well, I'm not very fast. And I was

also like the heaviest guy because I didn't have to follow PT regulations. And so I was always last. And when you're last, it means you get the least amount of rest. So then we would have to go first immediately. And so the rest of my team is really good at getting their butt kicked. And we get done with it. We get done with these like four or five drill things. And then we have to do what we call a swarm drill, which is where you have to do 16 consecutive uh that was very difficult but a lot of fun and one thing it taught me was that um a good team is made up of different people so like so if there's ever like a zombie apocalypse i am not the run running messages i'm not going to be the sprinter scouting i'm going to be the one who like blocks the doorway and holds the bottleneck so that people can get away you know like i can do that i will be good at that and like if that's what it takes

like i don't have a problem with that but yeah it's a lot of fun like people already don't mess with me because of my size like i it's interesting tidbit about the whole bar and after 8 p.m but i don't expect anyone will ever say that to me anyway. Yeah, you're a bit bigger. A lot of times. Do you think that's why Hamptor didn't talk to you very much? He was intimidated? No, because I wasn't the biggest guy there.

No, I know. He was. That's what the instinct. Anybody that hasn't met Eddie, you're what, about six foot or so? Yeah, six foot one, something like that. The whole shoes I'm wearing. Gotcha. Yeah. Well. Yeah. so yeah six six foot one something like that little shoes i'm wearing gotcha yeah well yeah let's see i'm uh i mean we got a few more questions we could get into if joey wanted to if anything in there jumps out at you if not i got i got one i wanted to now you go ahead because

i think we can move on to the silly question okay Okay. I'll just wrap. This is my last. Yeah. Before we move on to the silly question, you and I had talked about books a fair amount and, you know, some of our authors and genres we enjoyed. If you were to be, I know we were not supposed to, you know,

make anyone pick their favorite, but on this one, since it's not finished related, then you haven't met them. Just favorite author or favorite book, which whichever. In my opinion, more,

I would prefer to be more fictional because I'm, I'm trying to get something more of a book recommendation. I don't, I don't really do the self-help stuff. That's not really my genre. So like in, in a, in a fictional world,

what would you consider dead or alive? It doesn't like anyone now. Yeah. So I'm terrible at this kind of stuff. Like you guys, you got to get a genre. Yeah. Just, uh, it did. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. I know you like Brandon Sanderson, so we'll just leave it at that.

I am a big Brandon Sanderson fan. I would say that if there was an author that I would like to meet, see, even then there's two names that come to mind. That's fine. We don't want that to mind um that's fine didn't just we don't want all that doesn't have to be a big segment it was just more curious uh i'm always looking for more i'm always looking for different books to read i'm a i'm a big uh ayn rand fan um so like i listen to atlas shrugged annually um and that's that's one of those books that's pretty polarizing people either love it or they hate it

so I'm always wanting to talk to people about that book who've read it and you know just to compare opinions especially as I've heard religious people say that she's like anti-religion and I'm like well I guess it depends on how you read it so that's one person that I would like really love to meet and have a conversation with at the the same time, I would also like to meet C.S. Lewis. Like I enjoy the Chronicles of Narnia and it's just a really good series. And there's a lot of really good morals and values in there. Even if you don't want to take it to, you know, the religious connections that a lot of people associate, there's still just like really good values, you know, like I don't remember the book, but there's like the horse that's like afraid that he's not going to get along with the other horses and the other horses like, dude, just be a horse and have fun.

Like, don't worry about it. You know, there's just so much good stuff. Um, you know, and then I've got other books that I really love, like, uh, you know, the Hobbit, Lord of the Rings books, you know, you can't go wrong with that. I was a big Redwall fan growing up and all those books with the animals fighting. I tend to gravitate towards that stuff and now I listen to a lot of Brandon Sanderson and Wheel

of Time series is another favorite. Right now, lately I've been listening to the Inheritance series again, the whole Aragon books because apparently he's coming out with another one this fall yeah i think the fourth yeah i think there was like a there was like a tweener book that wasn't like a real full novel that came out a year or two ago i never caught that one but i probably should do a full re a full reread of uh

the first yeah you know the main three before because that's such a it's such a vast world to just like I don't want to waste the time reading a fourth book if I can't remember it's been 10 years since I read the other ones so but we'll close on that and we can dive in on my co-host Joey's silly question of the week

I want to premise this you guys have probably watched me just absolutely clawing at my eyeball i got something in my eye um so this eye is swelling up and it's just it happens but if you're wondering just why you're watching my video and i'm going on mute and like clawing at it that's why there's something in there and it's just watering and i'm trying to talk to you guys you got any you got any eye drops you can go put in? I'm good for now. We'll figure it out. All right, man.

I got ice in the cooler here. So I've just been putting the cooler on it. So I don't know if you're familiar with the silly question of the week. I might've, I might've been off more than I can chew having to come up with these week. So that's, that's been interesting uh piece of homework for me you can't start a spreadsheet or a separate doc and just anytime you even think of one that kind

of would work just write it down and then you know you guys have like 10 10 ready to go at any given time yeah and this one um let's see where this goes i I don't think we're going to all have the time to answer this one. So I'm going to actually focus this on our guest spaghetti. And if he wants to tag one of us in, that would work. Okay. So you are in charge of putting together a spice girls group. I want to give you five members of the crew.

And you're going to give them a spice name. It can be an existing spice name or it can be just something you know about them that would go really, really well, but they're not going to be just random. These are, these are kind of the bigger names of the crew. Okay. Okay. Do you want them all or do you want me to give them one by one let's do one at a time okay what spice is tanner

i'm expecting tanner um i would say tanner is i would say Black Pepper. Oh, okay. So maybe we're missing. So I like the Spice Girls. There was Spice, Baby Spice. Oh, yeah. It was reflections on their personality. I thought

they were called Ginger and Pepper and Sugar. This is going to make such a good meme. There's Sporty Spice. I thought they were called like ginger and pepper and sugar. This is going to make such a good meme. I don't know. There's sporty spice. There's baby spice. There's scary spice. Ginger.

Paw. Ginger, paw. Ginger. There was ginger. That's because she had red hair. You can almost just make it like the seven. I don't know. See, I don't know if you guys know but i almost went to culinary school

and i've worked in multiple restaurants yeah and so i was like oh cool i can spice with people like i can do that and i'm like uh then i like yeah then i'm lost i don't know i don't know how to answer this then give us tanner give us what you think Tanner Spice would be. My impulse is recently would be Sister Spice, but I don't know. Boss Spice. Tanner. Did nothing come to you, Eddie?

It threw me off because I don't know the Spice Girls enough to even know how to answer the question. I can tell you why I picked black pepper. Yeah, do that. Okay, I picked black pepper because black pepper is one of those seasonings that, like, everyone likes. It's like, it's, you know, it's, some people call it the king of spices because it's just, it's a good spice to use. It gives flavor.

It's not overly complex. because it's just, it's a good spice to use. It gives flavor. It's not overly complex. Like, you know, and one of the things I've just noticed about Tanner is that he's just really easy to get along with. And he just seems to be one of those guys that any, pretty much anyone can just chill and talk with them and, and, you know, connect on some sort of a, of a topic or a theme with the exception, of course, of like crazy old men when you drive on their rock driveways you know but like it's gonna there's very few opportunities and like he doesn't

he doesn't blow up at people when they do get cross with him he tries to give them the benefit of the doubt and so it's just one of those that i said i'd say black pepper because it's like yeah like who it's a staple like that was that's the kind of person you want to hang out with and be around whether it's a work environment or a social environment so serenity spice is that what you think he would be sure are you going for the personality spice see then you say serenity i think of the tv show on the movie so firefly not me all right or serenity now so in the same vein of spice girls that work this is great he starts naming places tanner we went with tanner already what about tommy oh um Should I be like googling what the different Spice Girls are?

I think I would look at it as more like what's your impulse Yeah, your personality type Yeah, the personality type Noun? Yeah, it is It's just like a one quick word that would come to mind Yeah, the personality type. Noun? Yeah, it is adjective.

It's just like one quick word that would come up. Like, for example, if he was to ask me big mofo, I would say foot spice. I would almost say Tommy is more like sporty spice or something. He does like boats. Better tech spice. I'd call him tech spice. Techie spice. That's a one yeah techy spice yeah all right techy spice i like that actually okay um going along with actually people we've met big grant from the strength co so uh would be a good one for him i mean the first thing that comes to mind is that he's marine

um i said the same thing so uh survival spice i think he's one of those guys that can survive in any situation i mean so that's what i would that's what i'd call him i'd call him survival spice he's gonna flourish he's gonna flourish in any environment he'll find a way to make it happen i agree i agree okay continuing on there's two more and this is uh feel again feel free to tag one of us in if you just don't have an answer. Okay. Okay. Dan Bell. How about a fraggle rock spice, but not like the actual little fraggle rocks,

like the big giant people. Yeah. Giant spice, giant spice, giant spice. That's more appropriate. Yeah such a big dude it's funny he is yeah he's hilarious but he's so fun um going back to you saying you were hanging out with thor so right about the time that thor announced he was gonna he was gonna join powerlifting and beat dan's record they were at the arnold's together they had their deadlift oh yeah party um i saw that front row it was awesome so um i'm i'm having a beer with dan over at huck finn's i'm trying to remember the details so i'm with that huck finn's booth with dan and my buddy steve um and half

thor's wife and kids walked by yeah and it was just funny because I just turned to him and I was like, hey, go make friends with his kids. Like, it was just so funny. Yeah. I thought that was the funniest. No, no, he just thought it was so funny. That would have been cool, though, to be like, hey, your dad's going to try and beat my record.

It's a friendly rivalry. I hope Dan doesn't hate that I told that story, but it was just really funny. That is funny. is funny say hi to his kids that was really good he he like he was super fun uh all right cool uh the last one not the least one jess bettner oh that's a tough one because you either want to go with forklift spice or maple syrup spice maple spice that's a good one yeah i think maple spice is probably it so um if you haven't heard she's not going to be at the lift hardly busy classic yeah that was me that posted that i was trying to get a hold of her okay yeah i reached out to her and she messaged me back she's like

yeah i'm not gonna make it and i said well we, we're going to miss you. And I'll pour out a maple syrup shot for you. That's great. I got to pick up some maple syrup on the drive out. The hotel might have some. Well, you're staying at Airbnb though. So somebody might be able to bring a little container. Yeah, we'll find some somewhere. I just didn't want to buy a Costco size to bring on the trip.

We were looking at something. Me and Steve might. I don didn't want to buy a Costco size to bring on the trip. That would be ridiculous. We were looking at something. Me and Steve might... I don't know if he did or not. There was some aged bourbon barrel stuff that he thought about bringing. I don't know if he... Soon to find out if he made that decision. Yeah. We'll find out. So that is my silly question of the week.

I got a good laugh. A couple good laughs at Addy. Now, I don't know if you know this, but we have this game we like to play with every guest called overrated or underrated. Oh, interesting. It looks like we have a series of handpicked for big Eddie, the mole questions.

That's right. The real mole, the real mole. The real mole. As soon as they announced it was scans, we all went, nah. I really enjoyed that people are like no i still think it's eddie yeah and it was it was like the whole thing was revolved around scans's reveal thing and then we're all like nah it's still

eddie like no there's nothing you can do to tell us that isn't that was really funny yeah that's why the the first day of the competition i did the the first interest made was me with that one uh vindicated song yeah that was good yeah what you got i won that competition by the way yes you did you did all right uh oh sorry do you need the rules um no i'm up on it i think this is okay done a lot of time so let's dig let's jump right into it so ultimately no lightning round questions yep no right in the line and i have my druthers you've always got your druthers keith why don't you ask the first couple yeah so this is from is from our mutual friend, Big Matt Cessney. He asked, Big Eddie, overrated or underrated?

Six gauge TIG root passes. And he says there's a funny story that goes with it. Finding something that Eddie might not love was hard. So this was supposed to fit the bill. Yeah. Yeah. this was supposed to fit the bill yeah um so tig in general um the world would probably say it's overrated but it is not it is definitely underrated because it is very difficult um then when you go to like in material it can be even

more difficult and more difficult and more difficult. And then I've even had stuff where it's like and me and Matt have talked about this with really thin, really, really thin material that like I've had coworkers be like, hey, can we do this or not? And I'm like, I don't know. I got to go find out. And I try it. And I'm like, I'm not saying it can't be done, but I can't do it. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I can't do it. But at the same time, I enjoy those kind of challenges. That's part of what I love about my job is getting to push the envelope or do something different. So I would say those kind of things are underrated because you never know until you try. And there's always new inventions and innovation and ideas and things that people come up with.

Just because I don't know how to do it doesn't mean you can't do it. Someone probably does know how. Just to put it in layman's terms, the thing we asked was essentially a type of welding of extremely thin metal. Is that the gist of it? Moving on to the next overrated, underrated question for Big Eddie. Sparkling Waters. What do you think about them? It's always tricky because it's not just my opinion. You got to use the brothers of what the world thinks.

What's the world's opinion? Because my opinion is that they're overrated. the world thinks what's the world's opinion because my opinion is that they're overrated um as far as what as far as what the world thinks and our society i would probably say they're underrated because uh you know when you think about it for the people who enjoy it they enjoy they want something different than just water but they don't want something that's high calorie or like a super strong flavor. And I think that's awesome. So in that kind of regard, I think it's fantastic. So even though I don't personally care for it, I think in general, they are underrated as a beverage choice. We'll allow it. We'll allow that answer.

I can do the next one and toss it over unless you wanted to take that one, Joey. I'm not sure if you put that in or... Yeah, actually, it was me. All of the remaining ones are me except for that last one, but we try to keep it to six usually. There's six there, Mr. One-Eyed.

Fuck me, this is bad. All right. In that case, I'll take them because the last couple are me. All right. Overrated or underrated, Tears of the Kingdom. Oh my gosh. Oh, that's a tough one. It's extremely

popular right now and for good reason so it's very very highly rated it's highly rated to the point that people who own breath of the wild have said I don't know why I would play breath of the wild again like even myself my son will ask

me when are we going to play breath of the wild and And I'm thinking like, I don't know, maybe in 10 years when it's like all new again. No, it's a fantastic game. It's really good. My wife was definitely annoyed with how much I was playing it when it first came out. But you know, it's a new game and it happens. So it's definitely calming down now. And, and, uh, I think it's a lot of fun. I think they did a really good, great, great job with it. So for people who are on the fence would probably be the people who say it's overrated and everyone else who's played it says it's underrated and I'm going to have to go with underrated. I think it's definitely a good buy. Um, if you're into games and if you're into open world concepts.

It's just like having fun, running around and doing stuff. Yeah, I can't put it down. I'm probably getting off this podcast recording and going to play it. That's what I do every night. Then I wake up in the morning thinking, when can I play again? It's really awesome. Yeah, and that will eventually fade and then you'll go back

to playing it every once in a while. Like me, I'd play Breath of the Wild maybe every other week I'd play it. Alright. Overrated or underrated? Cape or toss? I'm going to go with underrated I'm trying to think of anyone that would think it's overrated

and those are the people who aren't good at tossing them like myself because other than that everyone loves the caber toss and the people who don't love it it's because they don't know about it yet when it comes to entertaining a crowd caber toss and the people who don't love it it's because they don't know about it yet yeah like when it comes to entertaining a crowd caber toss is king you know i've been to big events where it's like north american championships or world championships and stuff and like they have the

caber toss at a specific time of day and they know and those seats fill up and it gets loud and it gets fun. And even when you're not that good, like I am, that's when I'm more likely to actually turn it. Um, it's a really great event. It's, it's much more about balance and speed than it is about overall strength. Um, which is what I tell myself, you know, and, but you know, it's a really great event. It's one that people always, they always, you know, they've always heard something about people picking up trees and throwing them. And it's a great event. So I would definitely say it's underrated.

I enjoy teaching people though. I've never thrown one, but like if it comes on the tv and just explaining to them that you know no it's about making it stand up at noon like it's not about flipping the whole thing about how how the distance or how many times you flip it you were just trying to flip it once here yeah yeah i actually had the pleasure of seeing uh tom sroka win the fergus festival last year oh nice and it's when you when you said that like these are people you can approach i i was gonna tell that story is i i didn't know anything i was just like i want to go to fergus and watch the heavies and my wife was like sure

let's go so we bought the tickets like two weeks in advance and went and then i'm looking at him and i'm going i think that's tom sroka and i messaged him on instagram i was like are you at fergus right now because i was going through his post and he didn't say tom shoka and i messaged him on instagram i was like are you at fergus right now because i was going through his post and he didn't say anything about it and i guess uh somebody backed out so he got a phone call to come yeah yeah and and yeah he actually came over and hugged and and i i have one of his shirts from like two years ago yeah that's how we started talking so it's like he's a cool dude he really is and that they had the unflippable at fergus they had that unflippable that has like all the pooled money and then every

year the money grows until somebody flips it and i guess dan mckim was the last one to flip it yeah that doesn't surprise me him and uh andy vincent most people know matt vincent but andy vincent's brother is also a professional highland game athlete and man that dude that dude i know he uh he can flip some cabers he's really good at it yeah and then of course mckinnon was known for that he really put a lot into it it's a fun event and there's different parts of it that you have to learn and gain confidence in and then there's nothing quite like seeing that puppy flip over. It's a,

it's an adrenaline rush. It is. Yeah. Because then I think they did the sheath toss right after and everybody was kind of like, yeah, at the Arnold, they had fiberglass cavers and part of those are terrible.

Yeah. It's a liability thing. So it doesn't like splinter. I don't know i was watching everybody was failing it not a single person i watched could flip that damn thing i'd be so fiberglass like that shit you get chewed up like that's not healthy to like it was all padded obviously i think that's why i don't know what it was but sounds horrible nobody could flip it we were sitting there watching and i was like i think that's fiberglass like no wonder nobody cares like no caber caber is one of those events that

sometimes they just don't have a good caber for your division yeah because cabers are not easy to get no one sells them so you got to like find the wood you got to chop them down you got to get the bark off you got to sand them down you got to finish them down. You got to get the bark off. You got to sand them down. You got to finish them. It takes a lot of work and people just don't do it. And so and then some cabers get really old and worn out and they break. And then there goes that competition caber or you get an inexperienced thrower. And if you throw it wrong, it's really easy to break them. So, yeah, it's definitely one of those that having good cabers is very difficult

and it's sometimes unfortunately it happens where like the best caber for a group is too big you know and no one can turn it or it's just a little bit too little and everyone turns it you know like yeah so it's caber caber is a lot of, but it's definitely difficult. It's not like finding a rock, you know, it's a lot easier to find a rock and that's its own journey in itself. Yeah, rocks are just like that. They're there on the ground. Yeah, but you want to get it

like 16 pounds on the nose, you know, and you got to have good shape and you got to have a good handhold and, you know, you don't want any rough spots that's going to cut your skin. No, it's finding the perfect throwing rock is a whole nother adventure it takes a lifetime of pursuit okay underrated or overrated mohawk hairstyles um i'm gonna say they're underrated um but the world and that's based on the fact that

the world probably thinks they're overrated and i'm gonna say no you're wrong it's you are you are underrating how awesome it is um i've really enjoyed having this is my third summer doing it um but like even before that three four years ago i think i got a Mr. T wig and as Mr. T for Halloween and that was like in California and even then people were like can you do that and I'm like I don't know why I can't like I'm honoring him like I think he's awesome you know and and who knows someone can feel free to correct me and send me a message but you know I still don't have a problem being Mr. T for Halloween you know you just put on the wig and my gold chains and go have fun but uh um yeah so i started doing it for highland games as uh there's one in pennsylvania that is at a like a renaissance festival location

and they do a celtic festival every summer and uh i kind of wanted to do it and i knew that some people would frown on it and i I'm like, you know what? I'm doing this for entertainment. I want to, if people want to judge me, they can judge me. And so I went after it and I've just really enjoyed having it. And my wife loves it. She thinks I look really good with it. And I get compliments from a lot of people and, and, uh, some people don't say anything and just look at me funny and I don't really care. So I have a lot of fun with it. I mean, so I like it. Um, it's definitely not something that I'll ever keep year round and, uh, but, uh, I enjoy it. And it was, it was funny this summer because it was such a warm spring

that it was like April. And I normally don't cut it till June, right before that competition. And I was like mowing the yard and it's hot out and i'm like i want my mohawk like it's too hot for this i'm like why don't i have my mohawk yet so no i really enjoy having it i actually think that came now i actually think that came from big jen i think that was yeah i think she wanted to ask about faux hawks. How do you feel about those? I'll say you've got the commitment. Right now I have a commitment.

To the real moth hawk. So how do you feel about people not willing to do that? Okay. I don't have a problem with it. It's one of those that like, like even as it is right now, it's probably too extreme for my career position. Like it's not something that if we had an annual meeting with my customers, you know, upper management, it'd probably be good for me to have a Mohawk.

It would raise some eyebrows and could embarrass my coworkers. So I would, so like, I'll probably, you know, so I think it's a, it really depends on what you have going on in your life. You know, and that's just part of playing the game with some of the things that you do. So this will probably turn into a faux hawk pretty soon. As we have some friends that we're going to a wedding later on in the fall that I need to make sure that I look more appropriate for. And, and then we have a big fabrication convention in September that I need to look professional for. And, you know, having a faux hawk is a way to still have fun without it being.

That's fair. Without without raising too many questions. And yeah, we got to. I remember when I first grew my beard. And I work in customer service and, you know, I got the whole like, well, are you approachable? Are you professional? I was like, uh-huh. work in customer service and you know i got the whole like well are you approachable are you professional i was like uh-huh and then i yeah i just got so good at the job that eventually yeah like i'd tell them this is clearly not in the way of doing my job can you shut up and that's essentially what happened right like i i i can see where you're coming from because also at the same time like i also don't let it grow the way I want to.

I don't want it to be right all the way out because I still think there are certain not conditions, but like, there's just certain things you don't do. So I can still have the beard, but it's got to look like I did it on purpose. Not just got lazy. Yeah. Yeah. You got to take care of it. You got to take care of yourself. So I see what you're saying where like, cause're like because i i don't agree with the whole i don't i hate dress codes well i can go on about that yeah yeah i hate dress codes i think that they're just a thing of the past if it's not in the way of me doing my job shut up right as long as i fit in with everybody around me um so yeah i see what you're saying with that all right last but not least this one's for all

the marbles and we'll see whether we end this episode or not overrated or underrated crew meetups uh definitely underrated that's an easy one um crew meetups are awesome you know it's so i guess we didn't talk about this before. In like the last seven, eight years, I've probably moved like eight, nine times. And, you know, a lot of that was college, like leaving college, going to internships or, you know, the summer off or whatever, and then coming back. lot. And, you know, it's not always easy to make friends. Like you can be social and you can like get along with people, but like to find like good friends, like a true friend is not easy. And I think that applies to everybody that it's not easy to find those true friends that you can really understand each other. And, uh, I really struggled with that in college because it was like, I get along with you guys, like, let's go hang out. And they're like, no, it's okay. You know, I'm like high school or high school brutal for me. Like my best friends lived in the next town over, you know, and, and that kind of stuff. And so one of the things that

I really like about this online community is that we all come from different backgrounds. We all come from different walks of life, but we all find the same stuff. We enjoy the same thing. We have that same thread, that, that commonality that brings us together. And it's like, you know, like we don't talk religion and politics. And like, I know that I don't share the same views as a lot of people, but that doesn't matter because that's not what we're there to talk about. We're there to have fun. We're there to lift some weights. You know, this weekend, we're going to have a great crew meetup where we're going to, we're going to eat a lot of food, which I'm always

a big fan of. We're going to lift a lot of weights, which I'm always a big fan of. And, uh, you know, we're going to have fun and get to see some people and meet some people for the first time. I'm super excited about that. Um, I, every crew meetup I've had has just been a pleasure. There was one guy I know that used to say that you should never meet your heroes because you'll always be disappointed. Well, he's the kind of guy that would disappoint people when they met him. So after dealing with that guy in my life, I was like, you know what? Screw him. If I want to meet someone, I'm going to meet him. Like one of the best guys I've ever met and hung out with is Steve Slater. You know, and I was just went to Slater's Hardware in Lancaster, Ohio, because I knew

that it was the famous place where he made strongman equipment. And it just so happened he was there. And we talked for two hours. And like, we messaged each other now. Like, I've gone to dinner with him and his wife before, like he's the coolest guy ever, you know? And like, you know, I'm still trying to get him on the podcast and hopefully one of these days that'll happen. But like, I mean, Keith, we've met up multiple times, you know, waffle iron, like I could live down the street from waffle iron and i don't think i'd ever get sick of it that guy man he is awesome and and i can say that about everybody in the crew you know and uh i've really enjoyed it and i'm very excited for this weekend my my my wife asked me uh what was my favorite you know thing i'm looking forward to. And of course I told her it's the tour of the old West barbecue factory.

And, uh, that's kind of been a thing. Like, uh, I don't, I guess it's a running joke that when I get there, I'm going to go tour the old West barbecue factory and, uh, um, and that it probably will happen, but, uh, no, I'm, I'm very excited to meet up with everybody. I'm very excited to hang out, have some fun. The last powerlifting meet I did, I didn't know anybody. And it was really kind of lame because no one would even like talk to me. And whereas with this one, I know it's going to be the opposite. Yeah.

So yeah, definitely underrated. I would say that if you have a chance to meet up with someone, do it. If you're kind of shy, just remember if you get along with their personality online, you're going to get along with them in person. It's going to happen. I know it's a crazy idea, but you're going to get along with them in person. If you're uncomfortable, there are precautions you can do, meet in public place, different things like that. No that no big deal no one's gonna care but you shouldn't be meeting with somebody you're uncomfortable with anyway right like exactly exactly right i wasn't afraid of meeting anybody yeah no no hell yeah yeah don't be afraid to go to strangers houses and just walk into their basement you know deliver storm access it's fine guys everything will be okay there's no

problem with that no i think i think we all share eddie's uh sentiment about uh sentiment about this weekend and we're all looking forward to it and we're listening to this you know hopefully hopefully everyone had the good time that we are all anticipating that we you know should be having i hope none of us disappoint you listening to this and being like nah man that man, that Joey, he's a dick. No, I think I will leave the zoo before anyone drinks enough to disappoint me. That's the spirit. All right.

It looks like you passed overrated and underrated. Congratulations. Oh, sweet. Nice. We can let Nate go ahead and edit this and get it out for next week. Yeah, I don't have the Cool Beans button. Oh, you were supposed to work on something. Well, he sent me a thing, and it needed all these permissions and rerouting.

And I know we're joking, and I'm getting more technical. But I started trying to install it, and then it asked me three more things. I was like, fuck that. Pardon my language. Sorry, Eddie. I was just like, F that. I'm out of here. I think that was actually my first swear in this entire

episode. I think I dropped a few. I'll just have to get Nate to assure me it's not trying to eat my computer. That's all. Like, just... But I have an idea. It's not a Cool Beans, but it's something similar. Yeah. Awesome.

Alright, so the next part, I think, is one of Keith's favorites. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. All right. So the next part I think is one of Keith's favorites. Yeah. Eddie, do you have anything prepared that you would like to ask Joey or Keith? That's three weeks in a row. I mentioned myself in that person, but you got, I,

I thought, I thought long and hard about this. And I would like to know if either of you have a favorite board game or card game you like to play. Two that we've been playing. Two active ones.

I guess they're my favorite. Blockus is really fun. It's like my wife and I play Blockus every now and then. And then Spot It. I think we've been playing a little bit. It's like a block. My wife and I play blocks every now and then. And then I spot it. I think we've been playing a little bit. It's kind of like, you know, you have to match.

There's a bunch of little cards and there's like seven or eight pictures on it and two of them match. But the two that match are in different sizes. So you have to be the first one to spot the matching image. There's multiple ways to play it. Okay. Those are our two. If we're going to actually

sit down and play a together game, we don't really have people. Multiple person, big in-depth board games. Catchphrase was my favorite back in the day though. We would have a big dinner party. Catchphrase was the best. That's a good one.

But I won't ramble. What about you, Big Joey? I used to enjoy Cards Against Humanity back before everything was going on, and you could go out. I bought a bunch of them, and we'd go out to the pub. We would just have nights. We would go and book the upstairs, and we would just play, and people could join if they wanted, strangers and stuff.

But obviously, having a family that's not viable, and the kids aren't coming to listen to us play that game. Not really. I'm not a board game person. I played chess a lot in my younger days. But I lacked the foresight to play chess well. So I got this one recently. I got an ad on Instagram for it.

It's called Base Camp. I got this one recently. I got an ad on Instagram for it. It's called Base Camp. And it's essentially just a deck of cards that have questions on them. And they're not like silly or anything. They're like personal questions. Like tell me something you regret you never did or something like that. So Morgan and I were playing just go fish.

That would be cool. And every time you lay down the card, you had to honestly answer the question on there. And I think if you had a bigger group, that would be cool and every time you lay down the card you had to honestly answer the question on there and i think if you had a bigger group that would be really fun especially you know people getting vulnerable people opening up about themselves and their past obviously boundaries can be set where you're like you know what that's traumatic yeah like that's fine you're allowed to do that but i think that's the most recent one i got into well i think that one would also be really good for, uh, for continuing those date date night activities with your spouse. Yeah.

It sounds like that's something I should look into. That'd be good. Don't sleep on the date nights. They are, they are winners. Well, now that the kids are old enough, we, yeah, they really enjoy going to their grandparents in the city. Uh, so it's one of those, well, do you guys have two hours? Can we drop them off in me and her can go for dinner or something? And the parents are like,

yes, that sounds great. Nothing more than three or four hours. Cause there's still only like two and four. So, but yeah, it's are important. That's awesome.

Good. Good. Thanks for asking. Was that the only one? That was it. I'm a big board game guy. I like social interaction. We did know that, but we didn't know how to get it into the conversations. Yeah, we build a bunch of show notes.

Your wife gets a ton of stuff. We really appreciate that. We had three or four people each give us a hand. It seems like everyone always floods with overrated underrated and like well we can only pick six and then it's like how does this like how does this one random thing that you want to know about it fit into a actual question that you know yeah that weighs into other things because it's like i think we are getting better at like i always like to like if anyone like when we're just on our interview if if the guest even mentions in something remotely close that I can like,

you know, segue into the next question, it's just, it always is like the other, the other host chimes in with something else, or the guests already like basically talks about the thing you were about to ask. And you're like,

damn it. Yeah. Yeah. It's my opportunity, but this has all been evolving. This is a, I think in all honesty, this is our 11th or 12th episode recording and it's been a blast.

So glad to get you on here. We tried to get Big Eddie on here at least a month or so ago with his travel schedule. It just didn't work out, and then we had a long list of other guys kind of getting on. So right before we wrap up, I figured that's where you were going, so I wanted to interrupt. I know I don't love interrupting you, but I figured you were going to wrap up. I want to ask a question. One of the things that Stephanie did send us was that you like enjoy uh games you can win and not that that you beat other people um it's really something um we spoke a little about last week and if this is

little high level just let me know um so i think that there's there's two types of games and this is something i learned at my leadership convention last week okay there's your finite game and your finite game has a set amount of rules a set amount of players and a known ending okay and then there's the infinite game where the players are unknown the rules are unknown and constantly changing and there is no actual end in sight so games like risk or yeah or things like that those would be finite games right yeah are there any infinite games you enjoy so when i said base camp that's an infinite game you can never stop playing that game

now the reason we learned about it was obviously in a business sense you have your infinite game we are here to beat our competitor or you have the the the infinite game which is apple which is just like we're just here to be the best we can be and like there's the two separate versions of that is there like a board game that's infinite like is monopoly technically infinite no no no because it ends in bankruptcy and one people that's actually like one of my least favorite games yeah i don't know if i can think of an infinite game i mean like you can take weightlifting is an infinite game isn't it it is but at the same time you're still working towards goals yeah um like you can take a game and make it infinite by not like keeping score you know like you can be playing one-on-one or whatever just play and play and play or or, or you can just, you know,

you can just, I mean, even like, I think of like throwing Frisbees back and forth or playing catch, like, but even then you're still, there's still a finite purpose into what you're doing. So I'm not really for sure if I have any infinite games that I like. Um, I don't know. That's funny. I'm curious that the way you said that how i like to play games that i that i win um because uh like i obviously enjoy winning but that's not how i meant i mean the royal okay like the games that have a set winner at the end oh okay i don't know yeah i don't i don't know i don't know if that's what stephanie meant i don't know if that's what Stephanie meant. I don't know if Stephanie was telling you that you'd like to dominate games, but I didn't get the notes.

If anyone wants to play Risk in Aberdeen, you just let me know, and I'll go buy it because I'm a big fan of Risk. No, I just enjoy playing games. I remember in my 20s, I had people over. We'd invite friends over on the weekend to play games and hang out and stuff. And I remember we were doing, I don't know what game we were playing, but I lost pretty bad and I was upset about it. on and i'm like why am i upset like i got to play a game with my friends and i was like and then my thought was like well it sounds like i need to play games more often if i'm putting that much emotion into one game like if i played games every weekend that i wouldn't care if i won or lost you know so i i love playing games and and uh i just don't get to do it that often and um especially you know as life continues on it gets busier and busier but yeah uh i'd have to also think more about that that infinite infinite stuff i think life is

the ultimate infinite you know that yeah there's always something new and um everything that you think think is going to happen probably isn't but it's going to change before it gets to that finite goal that you're working towards yeah i don't i don't like getting too high level on this i don't want this to be like a podcast bro thing but his name is simon sinek and he's wrote he wrote a book called the infinite game and it's mostly about business but like it does kind of apply you can apply it to a lot of aspects of your life so with that said thanks for tuning in to this week's unpaid and underrated keith do you want to do you want to see us out today this week yeah no gotcha so go ahead and uh follow the podcast on instagram you can find us at unpaid

and underrated podcast go ahead and check out the website, unpaidinternpodcast.com and do yourself a favor and just grow your social media crew following. That was a big thing I tried to do in one of the discords. I tried to get a bunch of people that was going to the podcast to post their Instagram. I think I got like four or five new follows

and vice versa. Just people that were going to go to the meet I'd never heard of. I was like, oh, I'm going to follow this guy. I'm always trying to follow as many crew, especially when I see they follow our podcast. It always makes it a little bit easier to click the follow back. It's kind of like an automatic.

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and i'm just like yeah all right i'm uh joey you can find me at joey underscore molesko mle cz ko but follow the podcast as well most of what i post on the podcast um is very different from my personal because i find i just have the luxury of being pure silly on on the unpaid and underrated podcast um and of course uh big eddie where can we find you uh at corn fed highlander you can find your favorite highland game athlete who is from nebr Nebraska and eats a lot of corn and that's why he's so big. So check out corn fed Highlander at corn fed Highlander. It's pretty easy to find. He's got that corn strength.

Yeah, buddy. It looks like we're just wrapping up about, and, and, and big Matt couldn't make it this week. Uh, we really tried really hard to get him on there. He said, hey, if Big Eddie's on, I'm coming on. We're going to have to corner him this weekend. Yeah, we'll have to really talk to him. Yeah, settle this whole civil war.

All right, and as far as I'm concerned, that's it for this week. All right, boys, we'll see you next Tuesday.