Unpaid And Underrated - 016 : Don’t Pass The Pea (Gravel)

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Ryan. They dive right into great topics like swear words that need added back into the American social lexicon, the efficacy of yelling at people, VCRs, the history of metal, and ketamine. You can find the podcast at UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) or on Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) You can find this week's guest on instagram at @angrym0nkie (https://www.instagram.com/angrym0nkie/). You can find Big Keith on Instagram at @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) You can find Big Joey on Instagram at @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Ryan.

and welcome back to episode 81 of the on paid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith and i'm joined as my uh as always by my buddy big joey hey and we got a special guest this week, Mr. Ryan E. How's it going? Good, guys. Good, guys. So how is everyone doing today? Just go ahead and dive right in with what are you drinking? What are you drinking over there, Ryan?

Got some chocolate milk. Do you have any pizza? I do not. Chocolate milk and pizza? I thought milk and pizza was pushing it. That's so crazy. I think chocolate milk and food would be better. My logic on why chocolate milk with any food would be better is because you would look at this chocolate milk as the dessert.

And then who doesn't like having a little bit of food and a little bit of dessert kind of back and forth whereas me and milk like i don't know i don't think i've ever i don't know that i've in my adult life i've drank a cup of milk like as a drink with a meal my wife used to say in our earlier days when i was partying a lot more often she could tell exactly how hungover i was by whether or not i drank milk in the morning. Because I would get up and be like, I need that calcium, I need those vitamins. Otherwise, though, I don't... Drinking milk from other animals doesn't sit well with me. And chocolate milk itself is...

Strawberry milk? Yeah, we've been over this before. Strawberry milk is the only milk I actually really enjoy. Chocolate milk sends me to the washroom immediately. So you're drinking strawberry milk tonight, then? No uh juicy ass oh juicy i don't know what that is it is a strong ipa okay okay i found out that my weekly conference call is canceled tomorrow morning uh so i'm celebrating because i hate those i hate i hate weekly conference calls so much. I hope my boss, yeah, I've already actually gone over this with him.

If there's ever a reason I quit any job, it will be over weekly conference calls. You can't beat getting that good news at the end of the day. I'm knocking out a mango bubbly. That's pretty good. I think I'm running out of bubbly flavors. I'm going to have to hit up the grocery store and find some other variety pack of something for the weeks coming forward i've got a pc cola that i was gonna that i should have brought over um because it's it's like the one that they drank on the podcast the um the root beer but it's cola and it's awesome like when you want that cola flavor without the sugar awesome but i'm not

drinking no water right now i think someone recommended i think i either saw it either was googling like flavors or something or someone said it in the discord but there is like a an american sourced one that you can find on amazon but it was like i couldn't find it local anywhere and on amazon it was like it's like 30 bucks for a 12-pack or something. I'm like, I don't know that I'm going to risk $30 for a maybe, but I do like the idea of... Just drive up here. Yeah. We are a lot closer

than I thought. Can I tell you, I was in St. Catharines today and then I went into Niagara Falls and I didn't drive more than like an hour and a half and I believe Nate put it in the discord you and i are physically closer than tommy and tanner which makes me chuckle yeah no i'm uh i'm to like to get to nagger falls it's you know hour 45 for me give or take maybe hour 50 like

somewhere in that room so about the same yeah so under four hours which is weird because i think he was saying we were the the math doesn't make sense they were saying we were like under three hours but I I don't know there's got to be a quicker it's a probably about that well yeah because I'm not yeah I don't know all I know is I see Ryan more than I see you well I'll see you next year at the Lippard Levy Classic hopefully but that uh yeah you have been um did you so as your second meeting with uh big joey did you did you have a better time worst time say oh okay third well second time in canada though if you're not counting the lift hard live easy it was a little better a little more familiar just more us guys and not the kids and the wife and everyone

show me your i guess yeah we had some cigars and some brewskis and some Chackin' Wings. Nice. So, what is... I'm actually really jealous of your shirt tonight, Ryan, as we dive into what's everyone wearing. You want to tell everybody what that beautiful shirt is you got? I have the blacked out Bunch Heavy t with the lift shorts oh nice original purchase oh wow i actually can't i can't find my silkies and i'm actually getting a little bummed about it yesterday i was dead lifting i was actually doing block pulls and it kept catching on my shorts and

i got all mad and just took off my shorts and And in my head, I was just like, God, if I had my silkies right now, this would be so much better, but I'm fairly certain they're in this pile here next to me. Yeah. I did see, you said you were a dead lifting in your underwear yesterday and then benching in the dark tonight.

You just really enjoying the, you know, perks of that home gym. Well, yeah, dead lifting in my underwear. Like I said, like my shorts kept catching and because they're block pulls it's like a little heavier than you'd

normally do so you're just dragging them up your thighs and then they were just catching i was like forget them i don't even need them and then today i was just like i didn't i didn't want to work out i was so tired and such a bad mood i haven't seen the sun in like 24 hours and i was like i don't want to do this and i went downstairs i just could not have a single light on and actually focus so we put on some uh some death metal and we did the bench nice nice i'm uh i'm actually wearing the masonomic shirt this time i think it's been like a month since I feel like I've had one on for the episode, but I'm rocking out the blue Jefferson deadlift tee. So that's, you know, as I've gained a lot of weight the last six months or so, I've got like three shirts that fit currently. So I definitely need to take advantage of the upcoming drop this week and buy a couple of shirts that fit me. buy a couple of shirts that fit me. I was also up weight today and I assume it's just because I'm actually paying attention to my creatine and not just like taking it when I remember, but taking it as I'm supposed

to. And I'm actually, uh, I'm breaching a bit of overweight, but, um, speaking of your next subject, I'm actually wearing a lift hard, be kind shirt from team moose, Mitch Hooper. I have two of his shirts and i'm wearing one of them today because i thought today was a good day to wear that yeah you want to talk about the shaw classic i also i selfishly wanted to touch base on it just as a way to kind of like pat myself on the back a little bit when i said that mitch might have beenrated, you know? No, not at all. No, not at all.

I mean, he couldn't beat a 47-year-old Brian Shaw. At Brian Shaw's own event. I don't know. The meme that everyone was resharing of Brian Shaw giving himself the medal, that was pretty – I really did enjoy seeing that. But it was good for Brian to go out on top, regardless of if he literally catered the event to him and his strengths but i mean of course he did but so mitch lost by six points yeah by six points who was the closest in points and by how many oh i i didn't yeah i after't know. So he, the, the third person placed eight,

the third person placed 18 points behind Brian Shaw. So it's not like Mitch wasn't right there with him. Yeah. And either way, like, Oh no, he placed podium in every event in the world. Oh,

he's so over. It was just more of a, I just wanted to poke the bear a little bit and kind of have a little fun with that. Oh, I meant more you, just because you were so adamant. I don't know. I just thought it was a good time. But did anybody get a chance to watch

the Hook Grip YouTube video today? It's always hard to watch the videos the day that we record, just because I barely get a chance to watch them, and I probably watch more YouTube than anyone on here i did what'd you think of that that's some good information there was that posted before am i just crazy i know it was it was like it was like four o'clock today i i want to say that the unless i'm misremembering the the initial event i could have swore it was just to be Friday or I don't remember like the,

maybe I just misread it or maybe they had the date wrong, but I didn't think there was a, I didn't think there was just to be a YouTube drop today. And then all of a sudden at like, you know, I was getting alert for it. I was like, Oh, that, that seems okay. But no, it was a good video. One of the hosts talked about just hook gripping and you know, implementing that in your training and the benefits of it. And it was just a really good video.

I'm an advocate for hook grip. I either go double overhand or hook grip or occasional straps if it's high reps. But it was always fun seeing, you know, something that kind of correlates with me personally. So I've been really enjoying their YouTube, especially when it's something that you have a little bit of experience with yourself. But one little sneak peek we got from that was the shirt that he was wearing. It's going to be a shirt that's in the drop tomorrow. So I'm sure everyone, by the time you guys are listening to this, the drop already happened. And, you know, we all already bought it.

But it was one of the funniest shirts and one of the funniest, you know, original parodies I think they've had so far. shirts and one of the funniest you know original parodies i think they've had so far it's the power lifting record holder uh t-shirt with then the caveat of like 30 different subdivisions underneath of it ending with uh ending with zodiac sign and might as well just put my name on it hot power lifter with my name because like but i guess that's what they meant by record break and drop right everybody was like it was gonna be vinyl but i guess that's what they meant by record breaking drop right everybody was like it was gonna be vinyl and i was like what are they gonna do release the song yeah there's no way they're gonna do a like maybe a vinyl sticker like or there's a sticker pack with like a massonomics record player and tanner's going kind of a record guy on it or

something but i feel like i feel like that that he hasn't really posted about being kind of a record guy in a while so i don't know how relevant that would be anymore but because he's a vcr guy now yeah dude that was actually did you guys uh well we'll get into it a little bit later but uh i did really enjoy him talking about the vcr stuff uh well i it was me actually it kind of plays off something that we talked about earlier remember when i explained the candle story and how um i was being stupid and my best friend jay was watching me and then was like why did i think that that was the right thing to do it kind of harkens to tanner being like i have two vcrs and we're like hell yeah we support your vcrs and not a single one

of us asked why and finally tommy was like what why and we were all like wait a minute yeah why that doesn't make any sense but at the time when he posted it we were all just like yeah vcrs man that's the way to go we just started talking about vcrs as if that was a normal thing for any human to do in 2023 was collect cigars or cigars vcrs what's my brain on right now hey don't you just you just keep seeing ryan and all you do is remember all those cigars you guys smoked last weekend you're just take me take harking back to the good old days yeah when the guest is on we'll talk about that that's true so let's see i want i want a brief story today uh it kind of going into how shitty of a day I had. Basically, yelling, as we have a little 90-second topic here.

As adults yelling at other adults, how much is the most pointless thing in the world to do? I got yelled at by a customer today for no reason. From my point of view, for no reason. She was just yelling to yell and try to assort her dominance and authority in a situation where she really was in the wrong the whole time and i'm just like i'm a almost i'm a 38 year old man and you're yelling at me like it's i'm gonna kowtow to you or be impressed or like like like like bend over backwards and let you dictate how i run my crew and my team and like run the show. I was just like, I was,

and I just kind of thought about it for the rest of the day. Just one like yelling at people is the most pointless thing in the world. Cause I immediately just think you're a big child and I don't respect you or take anything. You stay with any value whatsoever. Like in like adults yelling at other adults, I don't outside of maybe like sporting teams or something like that, or like yelling to motivate someone like yelling in a negative manner. I just, I found, I found it to be, I was baffled. I haven't been yelled at in like five years or more probably.

And I was just like, this just doesn't like, who are you, what are you trying to do? Like, this isn't going to go well for anybody. So I don't know if that was my yelling, you know, story of the day. And I just, I kind of. eat buddy so i don't know that was my yelling you know story of the day and i just i kind of in my job man you guys know what i do i don't talk about it a lot um but it's it is a common occurrence that people think um that they can talk down to somebody like me the only reason you're talking to me like this is because this name tag stands in between me and you if you saw a guy that looked like me on the street, you would never talk to me like that. And I've actually said that to them.

I've literally told them, like, the only reason you think you can do that is because I'm wearing this name tag. And I'm going to tell you something right now. You need my help. And you're talking to me like this. And I'm not so inclined to help. So why don't you calm down and we'll work to a solution together and it's kind of that bane thing when he puts his hand on the guy's shoulder and says do you feel in charge that's what you're doing to somebody when you do that um but no you're right i've had people i could go off i could tell you for hours the type of things people say to me

when they they'll they'll make up with something in their head and then yell at me for not delivering it. And I'm just like, it was never on the table. That was never an offer. Oh, I read it online. Yeah, but it's not what I wrote down on the quote sheet to give you. So you can't have it because it was never on the table. And then they'll yell and scream and threaten to go to my superiors. on the table and then they'll yell and scream and threaten to go to my superiors like i'm telling you man it's it's more of a reflection of their insecurity and their poor ego than it is of you

ah well then i don't know but that that was my story so i will uh skip the ig polls then if i'm if i'm in and out too much because i would take too much recapping oh i know i saw your ig polls i saw your ig polls and and i'm just gonna say one thing i want to just i just want to put one proximity on what your ig poll said if i walked into a bodybuilding gym tomorrow and said guys we should all deadlift and they would all go no the risk to reward ratio is too high that That's called a confirmation bias. So your little polls there were put out to the people that would normally agree with you. The scientific community does not agree. Now we're talking about Nate being technically a guy, right?

No, you're salad and sandwich one guy you were so riled up i actually screwed it up at first did you guys see that i had soup and salad i think at first and then i had to get deleted that and had to go back and edit it to or post a whole new one as sandwich and salad because i was like shit it wasn't soup no but it's also really funny because it goes it goes back to the last episode of massonomics where it's talking about just having a really strong opinion about something utterly petty and useless. And I'm just like, yeah, I mean, like, I'm going to dig my heels in on this one. It's fun, though. I mean, that's what that's what half that like if if neither of us had opinions about anything, what the fuck would we talk about?

You know, it's like it would just be two yes men like i'm not a yes man so i don't know we should we should we talk about the four uh horsemen of the jortspocalypse oh yeah you guys were looking uh looking pretty stellar out there jortastic ryan tell them about it tell them what we did Ryan, tell them about it. Tell them what we did. The other Ryan kind of started off.

His girlfriend took a picture of him and his looking spectacular in his shorts and fanny pack and shirt and kind of went from there. Well, so about four days before that, I had a picture of myself in some smaller shorts and a sleeveless shirt and a fanny pack. And then as I was going to a restaurant, I happened to catch a preview of myself, not a preview, a reflection. And I just went, could be in such a fucking stereotype, dude. Because like you got your pit vipers and your traps and your sleeveless shirt and you just walk. And I thought it was so funny. And then couple days later ryan posted that and then i posted originally with the other shorts and ryan and then megan effenstone megan stone posted a picture of her and tyler

stone and he's wearing sleeveless shirt jords massonomics uh fanny pack and then i was like this is getting out of hand like this is starting to become a uniform and then you sent me a picture of you in yours which I thought was really funny but then it turns out everybody was like well you're not wearing jorts Joey it doesn't count so I had to go it's not like I wasn't

going to wear them anyway but I just made sure I got a picture so now the Nate called that the four horsemen of the George apocalypse. I should call it the four lifts men of the George apocalypse, but shout out to all of them. And if you guys are out there and you're, you're wearing the uniform,

send it. Cause I think we can make that a big picture. That'd be cool to make that a huge collage. Uh, so I was at physical therapy tonight and I heard like the, my, you know, the guy talking to one of the other people there and they couldn't think of the word fanny pack and they were trying to describe it i think one

of them said uh a belt bag a belt bag yeah and i was just like and and like i couldn't i didn't process they were talking about a fanny pack at first yet and then it was like another couple seconds later like did you are you guys talking about fanny but you just call a fanny pack a belt bag and i was just like it really made me chuckle just because how how much fanny packs are just in the lore of massonomics and everything and just the living community so i was just like you guys didn't know what a fanny pack was called well i've been wearing them since before i became a father like the the the week or two before oran was born i thought this is my last chance i'm going to canada's wonderland because they had just uh released the uh yukon striker the world's longest north america's longest free fall roller coaster

i was like i'm going to that before there's kids and i can't and my buddy was like yeah bring a fanny pack trust me and i was like what nerd i'm not doing that and then i thought about it and was like i'm gonna do that and i don't think i have taken my fanny pack off since it has been four and some odd years. Ryan, you're going to say something just for the record. I call it a belt bag, but nice.

Did you, uh, have you, have you got that term copyrighted yet for your own, uh, you know, profit? I should.

Yeah. Oh, man. Maybe it'll be too late, but you know, you'll have basically between now and tuesday to get it uh all dialed in well when you say fanny you're gonna get one of the davids all right that is really funny how fanny over there means what you know the c word over here and vice versa kind of thing so i always get it well yeah well no because they say fanny over there like all the time but i think when they say fanny they mean like vagina not

yeah yeah yeah but also like the c-word is used over there like sparingly like they're not sparingly like like all the time i think that is a fun word and we should say it more often too but that's that's political i pull it out every now and then but you gotta like you gotta be really comfortable in the room you're in before you uh oh yeah let that word fly and you never use it at somebody like like when you're trying to hurt them oh yeah right we've got it we've got to ease that word yeah right we've got it we've got to ease that word back in our into our society we've got to ease that in to like inanimate objects first and then you can like you know and then you can kind of spare it out into the world

we can all just start calling our vcrs that you know those are inanimate objects and that uh takes us to our our you know that rounds out our last general topics thing. We can go ahead and rate last week's episode. Ryan, what did you think of last week's two-hour of just them shooting the breeze episode? It was good. A lot of good questions in there. We'll just point it here at the massonomics G-string won't be a thing so it was really kind of hoping for that but you know um the questions that get answered or asked so you know it's kind

of disappointing on that so but you know overall i'd probably give it a five nice that's a good well you you do have x you know access to the, you know, a couple other hosts. Was there any questions that you wanted to ask? You know, the question that you asked them that they ignored blatantly and rudely. Is there anything that you want to ask us? I thought that was the end of it. I thought we did that at the end. Well, no, no. So I meant specifically the question that you asked them. Is it something that we could answer or is it is it is it the other host specific?

the question that you asked them is it something that we could answer or is it is it uh is it the other host specific i i just want you to feel heard your question that didn't get you know asked asked on the other podcast our sisters ignored you we won't what was your question wow get it out there yeah put it out in the world so i was gonna ask actually didn't ask the question so i'll just oh jesus christ just let me go on a 90 second monologue about our sister podcast it just it's oh he roped you roped you in that's good work making me look like an asshole thanks buddy that's good work um yeah you know it's rare that that Tanner gives you a hard no on anything, right? Like, it's very rare that when something is asked like that, he doesn't go like, maybe in the future one day.

And then he was just like, no, that's never going to come up. That was pretty funny. Um, the pea gravel conversation thing was genuinely hilarious. I especially like them dancing it around uh who introduced the pea gravel concept because i think we all know who that was and um it was nice of them to kind of just be like well we don't want to hurt any feelings because it's fucking me and it's like that was pretty funny um but did you ever answer which is heavier 10 pounds of gravel or 10 pounds of sand because i

i think it should we still need the answer for that well i think only scientists can answer that i think i know an engineer he might know their engineers do things like that um uh beyond that like i think i'm about three quarters of the way through the episode because it's literally just two hours of episode as long but based on what i've heard you know i'm pretty excited this this week guys i think i'm gonna i'm gonna think i'm gonna give it a five five jenny that'll definitely bring up your average what you usually give them so this was this was the episode i think i talked about last week because i it was very fresh because when we were recorded i had just listened to the entire episode the night before uh and i think it had to be at least going till 11 30 or

something you know eastern standard time so it was it was a really great listen live uh they you know i always enjoy the episodes where they're somewhat interactive with the with with with the discord live you know they there was a lot of times they gave shout outs to people talking or just gave, you know, there was interaction specifically to that. And I think my favorite part was the, was the VCR chat because I, what, what Tanner's doing right now is something that I did three years ago during COVID. I took every, cause I, I had, I literally had a box of Vs tapes from like high school football

that uh i wanted to get made on digital copies and then i could upload them to youtube because uh i think i think what started it all was our one of our old high school coaches in a facebook group was like do you guys have any old game tapes throw them up on youtube for us so then i was like well how the hell do i do that and then you, you know, you buy the $40, you know, converter. And I already had a VCR laying around because I still kept my VCR specifically if I ever wanted to watch, which I hadn't watched it in 20 years. But, you know, I pulled them out and spent days just playing all the videos and transferring them over to MP4s and uploading to YouTube. And to this day, I still am not completely done uploading them to YouTube, but I do have them all converted. And I think I have like half a season left to throw up on YouTube. That's just takes forever. But overall the whole episode, you know, there was some, I wish they, they, I wish they had talked a little bit more about the pea gravel,

you know, but other than that, I'd go ahead and give it a five this week, five, five JDs. Other than that, I'd go ahead and give it a five this week. Five GDs. So with everything we talked about, about how Tanner posted the VCRs and we all just acted like it was natural. I think one of my favorite parts about this is that if he had just simply said something at some point, you would have had all the advice.

Because you already did this and he wouldn't have had to go through whatever he went through getting quotes and finding the source and finding the data if he had just simply said hey guys i'm looking to do this and you had answered so i think that's pretty funny during the live i actually because he was he was describing what he had bought and he hadn't opened it yet like he just bought it off amazon and he was describing the name uh like the brain and i was like pretty sure that's what i have and i know exactly where i had my converter pack uh like they click that the box it was still in so i went and got it and took a selfie with it and he

actually he wasn't sure when i posted it in the discord like during the podcast if it was um a photoshopped or not but it was like i sincerely took the photo in my bedroom like live and they were he was kind of like oh wow that he really does have the exact one that I have in my hand. So that was just, uh, the, the nostalgia aspect of that whole thing. Like that just made my night.

Now, Ryan, you were going to say something there. Oh, I, I think he did make a post about finding some home movies or something from his parents. So I wasn't really questioning his motives or whatever, but...

Yeah. Well, there we go. With a Discord this active. Yeah, it's very active. It's a wonder we don't repeat ourselves. Never. Yeah, it's very hard to keep up to date with all that jazz. But that rounds out the general topics.

We're going to get into a little sponsor read. Does Mr. Ryan want to do a sponsor read does mr ryan want to sponsor it for us this week oh it's me one second i'll find it if you were wondering why i was just flexing at you is because ryan was flexing during the chat and we were just i don't know why i think i scratched my face and he thought i was flexing so So I was just like, well, like I'm in today was all upper body. Like I want to. I did scratch my face today so bad at work. I basically my when my colleagues set a ladder above me when I was bent over, like getting something off the floor. And I stood right up into the feet of a ladder and about took my fucking eye out. And I have like this big gash in my right next to my eyelid. So that was fun. and about took my fucking eye out and I have like this big gash on my right next to my eyelid.

So that was fun. When I actually noticed, I noticed a change in the way I drink water in public now because I'll drink with one hand and then I'll hold the other arm up like I'm doing the bodybuilder pose. It's like completely not on purpose. Well, it wasn't at first and now it is. And like the one arm will just come up and kind of flex while i'm drinking the water and that was pretty funny all right are we ready

all right here we go jump on in in the early to mid-2000s a group of young men began lifting weights west northeast south dakota bench weight is sold on lifting at aberdeen ymca known for its plentiful supply of toilet paper. In 2014, they thought it would be kind of cool to have a YouTube channel. After some confusion over the name, a week later, a logo was created. In 2015, having outgrown the current gym, a group of powerlifters and crossfitters looked at gyms with the intent of changing them for the better and opened Massanomics Gym.

In 2016, two guys and another guy who literally just met one of the other two guys bought their first set of podcasting equipment and began addressing the known issues with fitness podcasts. With a purpose to help the fitness community get strong, stay strong, and use their strength, the guys set out to basically talk about gym stuff and the mass dynamics podcast was born it's a podcast you listen to with your ears the best part is with the best guests and silliest geese self-proclaimed lifting podcasts about nothing is like an overwhelming relief of successfully evacuating your bowels after being constipated. Hundreds of overrated, underrated, J.D. Power-related topics have been discussed,

both with and without druthers. So grab the piping hot LaCroix. Ow! Ah! Put your tray tables up and make sure your seat is upright in a locked position. Mathsonomics takes you up for a 10,000-foot view. New episodes on YouTube Sunday at 7 Eastern eastern 6 central nice well done thank you um so for those of you who can't see the video and we didn't hear the crack of the can

that was not ryan doing a monkey impression halfway through his ad read he was juggling a can like it was piping hot like what ting tang all the way like what all right uh let's kick everybody out get our guests on the horn what do you think yeah let's he's been in that waiting room let's see if we can get him in there all right uh big ryan is that you i know they keep a guy waiting geez it's what we do how's it going guys appreciate your. That's payback for being late to our meetup. Oh, sorry. Poor me had to have an extra beer sitting there waiting for you at the pub. It's the traffic up there, man.

It's terrible. And you're like, should I take the toll road? And I'm like, no, no, it's like a 30. I will have the $6 beer while you don't spend $30 to save the 10 minutes. Like that's out of hand. That's insane. It's's really thirty dollars you're being overreactive like it's legit thirty so i've never spent more than thirty four dollars on the 407 etr um but it's always in the range of thirty dollars and i think it's just because the camera fees equal more than your mileage fees so if you don't

have a transponder so when he messaged me he's like should i just take the toll i was like no don't like it's when i i think i said it on the podcast one time when i took the i-90 i think across new york is it the i-90 yeah you have to easy yeah it's i-90 and it's Easy Pass down here. I don't know what it is up there. $3. It probably cost them more to mail me the envelope to Canada than it did that they were going to collect from me. And in a shorter time on the 407, it was $30-something, I guess. That's bad. He was a little late. And I showed up and I was like,

while I'm two beers deep, let's have a cigar. Well, we know what took you to Canada. It was big Joey. So, but what brought you to Masonomics there, Ryan? I'm trying to remember how I found them. I think it was a swim hack. I think I followed him and he was posting about like the most expensive shorts and some of the shirts. I'm'm like what's all that about so i gave massonomics a follow and kind of tried getting in some of the jokes and stuff and the memes and made my first purchase uh of their

stuff uh may 7th 2020 which is actually what i got on now and kind of went from there i feel like the crew had to uh like dub well we weren't even crew then but i feel like the people that are in crew right now at least 40 of us probably came in times i'd imagine i know that's when i came in uh so it's very it seems like a very common story there i take uh offense there there's a different word not offense but i take offense there because i think we were always crew deep down we just didn't know yet yeah crew is uh crew is not what is it crew is not made crew is born you will just find your way here eventually oh don't don't say don't say that

one too often that's actually about a completely separate thing that i just stole don't put that on a shirt the the irony of you stealing something from someone when you know we've we've been the uh victims of that as of late yeah so but uh when did you was that about the same time you got into listening to the podcast too? I know that's when you, more or less when you started following the IG page and buying their stuff, but did you kind of deep dive right into the podcast at the same time? It was like a couple of months later. So it was like in the early 200s I started in. 220 or something in there. Gotcha. Gotcha.

Just so everyone knows who we're talking to, do you want to go ahead and introduce yourself and give us your name, your Discord, your IG handle, all that stuff, just so people just tuning in right now can know who's chatting? Excuse me. Ryan, my Instagram

is AngryMonkey. Facebook is just my name, Ryan Erickson. Not much going on there, but that's pretty much it. Just Instagram. I'm mostly active on Instagram. So posting silly vids and lifting stuff when I'm actually lifting. What's your name on Discord? Because if you told them if you told

them what your uh you know avatar was you change it every two days so yeah keep on your toes man it's a big underscore ryan one of the many ryan's in their discord it's catching up to the mats now so now why angry monkey like what's why are you so mad uh i was trying to remember what that was from i think i was on some other forum and i think i was using the the evil monkey avatar from okay my guy so i kind of just to spin off of that it had nothing to do with your impression during the ad read no it's been a long game and you've just been leading up to just doing that on this podcast yeah no not that so no not a lot of anger just comic name i don't really i don't want to change it because then i probably can't get it back because someone

else take her or something you know i'm just that cool i was a two-plate poverty bench for a while on instagram and then i when i was stuck around two plates but then i changed it back to angry monkey so i think about like angry monkey fit because you know that seems to be the popular thing adding fit to it yeah really but really boost my uh audience there only if you start every instagram post with a close-up of your butt that's right come bench with me but and then just like some poverty bench but yeah um arm day as as for for the for the listeners he's showing us his ass as he's you know saying arm day as a as a as a typical instagram model should would do um i'm

gonna do one thing we don't normally do and just before we get into the the next segment that i introduced last week um speaking of your history with massonomics uh big kevin wanted to point out in particular that um when he first started becoming crew career crew curious um he wanted to point out that you were one of the nicest most welcoming people that made him really want to get further into the crew so when we were asking for questions he said i don't have a question but i need to point this out that that brian was one of the the for me it was scantz as well and i think we all had somebody like that that got us into the cult like we were curious and then they pulled us in um so you know he wanted to point that out and i just i wanted to put that before the next segment

yeah cool appreciate that uh so what piece of massonomics merch do you wish you hadn't missed? Uh, the yeah, buddy shirt. We wish I had that. The original one. Yeah, me too. Um,

that are the, uh, the Buffalo one. Can I go to that one? Never did get that one. We had too long to get that raw power. It looks confused. It's a Ram,

isn't it? No, it was a, was it a Buffalo Ram? It's a bison buffalo because they live in they live in the dakotas they're known for their their buffaloes gotcha the buffalo mosquitoes the buffalo you know what with that segment i bet the yeah buddy gets brought up a lot in that segment. Cause I think there's a lot of us that came in just after the old season desist. But you had, you had mentioned, uh, you know, South Dakota,

Ryan was one of the few guys that didn't compete, but still made the journey out there. Uh, how was your experience? How was meeting everyone? You know, just, uh, give it, give us a rundown on what you thought about that whole weekend. Yeah, it was a good time. A lot of fun. It's good to meet people. A lot of times you're not quite sure how people are in person. They're all very cool. Sorry if I was kind of standoffish to anyone. That's just kind of how I am until I get to know

people and then I get pretty silly goosey pretty quick. Watch out for that. Yeah, it was good. Well run meet. I've never competed before. I kind of fell into the video that one of the hosts put out about not waiting to compete.

I've waited to compete and now I've got some issues and I've got to work back up to competing. So, but going to the meet really, um, maybe want to go and actually compete and hopefully the next, uh, lift hard, live easy. Be my first. That would be, it would definitely be a great first meet for many people.

I, i will probably compete at that as well and um you know i haven't watched these these short videos that they release sometimes i just can't like i just don't have the the time right i can't listen to them while i drive but i gotta i gotta point out something i said the other day that I just signed up for my third meet in December. And being able to say the sentence, I'm a competitive weightlifter, it just adds a different – to me, as soon as I said that, I turned to my wife and then I was like, it just occurred to me. I'm a competitive weightlifter. It kind of refueled getting into the, like today I didn't want to go to the gym. It kind of refueled that. It kind of just refueled that getting in there and getting to it. So, um, you know, if you are waiting, Ryan, if you are thinking about it,

even do a mock meet, that's not sanctioned. Cause because that was my first meet because I wasn't sure either right just doesn't matter how much you lift as long as you lift how much you can anyway I agree with that wholeheartedly um that's half the reason I you know for the last seven eight years I've done one to two meets every year and half of that reason like competing is really fun sometimes just having something to train for and keeping yourself honest. Like, like that's like, I need that. Like I'm, you know, I have a meet, uh, I'm doing a March meet. And then ideally we're going to do the meet in July again. So I'm already like, I got like another month or two, just fucking off doing whatever. And then I got to like, you know,

start a 12 week training block going into a March. So, um, this, this meet is, so at the last meet was at apex barbell in burlington and steve was my handler because i was i did one without a handler and i just said like man i need i need somebody mostly just to think about my next lift so i don't have to and uh when i told him i was signing up for this one in December, he was like, I'm in. So he also has signed up for this one in December. And like, now we're both, we're talking to each other more about lifting than anything like before. And now we're just like, let's meal prep. Like, let's get this

chicken going. Like that kind of thing that like before it was like, go away. I'm thinking about it. And now we're both like, we're just effing doing it so speaking of steve and speaking of ryan's lift hard live easy experience what was it like writing on another honda writing on yeah no writing like writing oh writing writing uh yeah it was so those that don't know, I went to Walmart and got a glass marker and kind of marked my car up with Masonomics stuff on there. And Steve was like, oh, hey, let me borrow that pen. And I'm like, sure, whatever. And we were doing something, and he was gone, and I was there with the pen. I'm like, okay, I'll just mark up his car.

And then the next day at the meet he was like you marked up my car i'm like yeah because you you mentioned it i wouldn't do this if you had not mentioned it and yeah he thought it was really funny the two honda civics the the the crazy fast cars parked next to each other type r and the si yeah and then he just comes out he's like look what happened and i was like what like i'm groggy and tired i was like what and i thought i died i thought it was hilarious like you didn't do that he's like no so he's like we we're on our way back and he's like i kind of want to wash it off but i really kind of don't i want everybody to know where we just came from yeah kind of helped to give them 500 miles of free advertising and

over far uh you guys went yeah all the way up to tundra bay you you came over from iowa right ryan yep that's about five hours you said so that's not even that's like 500 miles oh yeah sorry i remember my yeah shit that's that's uh it's eight hours yeah eight eight's very doable in a day uh yeah did you because you did you just you just came up friday and we're basically there for tanner's party or well yeah i kind of did in two parts i came up or left my house thursday i stopped at my okay run was cabin minnesota and i left minnesota to uh I was Thursday. I stopped at my runaway cabin in Minnesota and then left Minnesota to

Aberdeen and showed up for the party Friday. Gotcha. And you were wearing something a little special that night. You were wearing your prize shirt, your Frankenstein shirt you won a couple years ago, right? Yes, to

the zoo. Oh, is that? Okay. I could just wear your award Friday night. No, I think Damager Warrior uh yes to to the zoo oh is that okay oh just where just where you were friday night but maybe no i think damager wore his on friday night oh yeah yeah well i mean you and chris you both you know we're pretty similar you know you both are you both are missing a similar element. Solically challenged. Yep. So I did want to kind of touch base with you on that. So you won that shirt in a contest a couple years ago.

It's an amazing shirt. It's really cool. I get that. But you gave up the opportunity to read an ad on the Mothership podcast, man. How hard of a decision was that do you regret it no i just don't really like publicly speaking or my voice in general so it's kind of that was an easy call kind of shy too so i get that but like damn dude that would have been like because this that was like three uh like call an episode call out episodes where like you text

them your their number your number and then you know i think that was i'm pretty sure that was pre that wasn't it so like it was not it wasn't a common event for crew to actually audibly be on the podcast so i think i would have had to go with the ad read just for like because at the time it would have been like i'm gonna be the only crew on the podcast like forever and then you know now several of us have been on at least once or twice you know for 30 seconds to two minutes kind of thing so yeah but it's a really cool shirt so i mean it's hard to if it was now i probably would have gone for the ad read but i'm happy with the shirt it's the first time i've actually worn a shirt so just kind of keep it tucked away did you have it up as like a wall hanger in the gym or anything or you just straight up like just never never touched it

yeah it's just in a drawer tucked away and that brings us into another question let's see so i hear you uh have an undiagnosed uh issue that you suffer from, and it's social disgust that you and your buddy both suffer from together. Did you basically just have a hard time with the general public in general? Yeah, we just... Yeah, just people in general kind of...

don't. Human beings, they lie and they smell bad. that's what they do so would you say that being part of the crew the last couple years has kind of brought you out of your shell a little bit um yeah i think so it's more interaction with people so so uh speaking of uh shells i can set myself up for that you You have a pet turtle? It's actually my daughter's. Yeah, we got that for her birthday this year. Nice.

She's really into turtles. She did like a school project on turtles and stuff. And it's a little turtle. It's a guy turtle. And it's, yeah. Does it actually have an aquarium or is it just in like a car because i had i had a couple different turtles i think growing up but it was just like cardboard boxes and then they would always get out you know be a big to-do to find okay no that's enough uh 40

gallon aquarium oh damn it's big so yeah it's it's cute little guy he'll come up to glass and duck for food if he sees you and that's pretty cool yeah i've always had a sweet spot for turtles honestly i like turtles so i have heard that your uh your background as a mechanical engineer has uh you know kind of made you to where you like to overcomplicate stuff one of the things was the what was it the filtration system on your turtles uh aquarium did i get that right or do you have a fish tank maybe or something? Yeah, not overcomplicated. I mean, somebody that gave me some information about you did like to word it that way.

So I can only word questions as the data that I'm given. So we bought this turtle kit. It's a four-gallon aquarium with a filter in tank filter and those in tank filters just suck you're always screwing with them like if not daily like weekly they're clogging up so it's fine looking into like the bigger cancer style filters that um go under the tank and then have the tubes that go in for suction and output. So it keeps it cleaner, but it's just trying to get the chemical levels balanced and the bacteria levels balanced. Just trying to get it happy is the next kind of challenge there.

I hear it's possible, but just kind of working towards that. So you're tinkering and you'll figure it out at some point uh we hear you do like to tinker uh i do you got lots of uh projects going on in the garage and so you must do you have like a four stall garage because i've heard about the multiple project vehicles in the garage plus you have a whole entire garage stall as a gym. Yeah, it's a full four-car garage. Originally, when I set up the home gym, it was just kind of one spot, and I had three cars in the garage. I had a 65 Mustang, and I bought a, I think it was a 48 studebaker commander that's kind of field fresh that was i'm gonna build this up and make it all fancy and cool i ride it out and kind of sat in

my garage for 10 years i'm like you know it's gotta go and then i was able to sell it for a whole 50 more than i bought it for so you, you know, big profit. There you go. And then right now I got my mother-in-law's Model A. That's sitting in my garage too. And then I also have my old white Honda Civic that I'm working on fixing up so I can drive in the winter.

So, you know, what kind of things going on? So did you, basically as a car guy yourself did you marry into a car guy family if it's your mother-in-law's uh you know model a which is not a common car if anyone's you know not not familiar it's like it's a hundred year old vehicle so yeah my my mother-in-law's husband he was was a pharmacist in small-town Iowa, and he was big into collecting cars. He'd go off to Hershey, Pennsylvania and bring home a car. They had like, I don't know, 12 cars or more at one point.

And unfortunately, he passed away before I met my wife in 1993, I think. passed away before i met my wife in 1993 i think um so then they sold off most of the cars but they kept the uh the mustang 65 mustang that was a anniversary present to her so she kept that and then she kept the model a just because she had good memories with that so now i have both those cars so nice that's cool so something that you could potentially hand down to some of your kids 30 years from now. So you got those cars, you said, from your wife's family? Yes. And you still made her pay for the movie on your first date?

How dare you? And it was the dollar in the damn dollar theater too so it's not like yeah young me was a little clueless on the dating scene so yeah you know who isn't I don't know what to do we were also stupid

when we were younger that's for sure what do you mean were yeah I still have my moments I might be ugly and hateful but what was that last thing you said so we know you've got a garage that has cars in it it's got a gym in it is there a reason it is also full of miscellaneous fridges though what's the story there and which do you use more the cars the gym or the fridges rich i do have one fridge in there only one 21 did i get bad information i probably so i got one i from the from from big fridge big fridge really wanted you to come down on ryan today

yeah i got one from somewhere and it's kind of, I use it as a, I used to make beer. So I use it to like kind of store the beer to get ready to drink and I really need to fix it up and sell that fridge, but yeah. I guess that falls under

miscellaneous then. I just, I think I interpreted it as multiple and maybe it was just one one random extra fridge so so you used to be a little uh beer maker is that something you still dabble in or kind of put that behind you um i will probably try again i just i made like one good batch out of like eight over the years so then it's just like there's nothing worse than drinking there's probably nothing worse than drinking shitty tasting beer but when you know you made it too it's just yeah it's just like

self-deprecating every time you take a drink it was god damn it just sucks and i'm a failure i have had other people's homebrew and it's kind of similar tasting so maybe maybe it's not all me so yeah uh homebrew unless you're like really good at it all tastes like socks yeah like there's no way it tastes like nothing or socks now but does it taste like the right sock or the left sock only you can tell that most of us most of us aren't really ready for that it's good stuff so for at 43 years old that puts you in the upper echelon of crew I think you're

you're going to be in the top 10 you know demographic there for the age group I pegged you as a you know mid to late 30s well shit I didn't actually peg you but you know, mid to late thirties. Well, shit, I didn't, I didn't actually peg you, but you know what I mean? Hey now, but yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're right on a big, big Jen's tails there with the early forties.

And well, you're in Iowa. So have you had, have you had a meetup with Big Jen I mean I'm sure Iowa's a large state so Not yet She's not too far away she's like two hours away from me So probably someday I'll let them out in that area Alright so

Overrated or underrated Staying up late with Drunk Joey or Drunk Jen Laughter Laughter Have to choose between you staying up late with Drunk Joey or Drunk Jen. That's a choose between you? No, how terrible was that? No, that was good. The worst part was I was getting alive in mosquitoes.

We were getting demolished on that patio. Next time I'm bringing bugs for you. Were you one of the American american in uh you know staying guys yeah yeah so yeah we we stayed the american and uh he was he was our dd so we just kind of um we just kind of went running and uh went back the patio, grabbed a couple of drinks from the bar. And yeah, we just sat on that patio, chatted about everything. Yeah. Just everything. Then I went up and grabbed some more beers to bring down because I still had all those keats in the cooler.

And I was home. And then then I went to bed. I think I was the first to tap out, actually. Yeah, it was a good time with the guys out there. Yeah, it was definitely a long day. As a competitor, it was a long enough day for me. Maybe it could have lasted a little longer if I hadn't uplifted. But yeah, I don't know.

I don't know how some of you guys stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning that night. I had to fucking be up and catch the plane. Yeah, none of us had a 5 a.m. flight. Yeah, that's true. Wait, Jen did. But Jen's a true... No. She woke up early and drove, yeah.

Oh, okay. It was just me, Matt, and the Damagers, and then Old Ham and his girlfriend, but they didn't wake up. Did they miss their flight yeah so they ended up uh i actually got the whole because i only kind of got part of the story but big lou was on the c-team podcast a couple weeks ago and kind of told the rest of it but basically you know they definitely just were just like yeah fuck it we're not getting up at 5 a.m to go catch the flight so they missed it but then they could get a they could get another flight out of

obaha like the next day, I think. Yeah, because that's where Big Lou is. So then Big Lou basically drove them to Omaha, and then they dropped them off at the airport the next day, I think. That was fun. They were fun as hell. Yeah, they were a good hang.

Okay. I've got one from one of the hosts. Not one of these hosts, one of these hosts one of the other hosts fmk back injury shoulder injury or knee injury how do you marry an injury it's the one that sticks around the longest my friend yeah yeah that's that's that. That's how I would interpret it. Trying to think how to phrase this.

Dead silence. Well, you're allowed to audibilize your druthers. So, well, yeah, I do have persistent back injuries like a disc thing that I've had for a while.

You probably killed that. Yeah, I killed that. Shoulder. I dislocated that. Had it rebuilt. It's more functional than expected and it's getting better. I guess I can

marry that. Knees are fine. Fuck knees i guess love it yeah when uh you when when we when we put up the post about the questions 90 of them were asking about his injury asking about injury i was like all right like when i when when the dance is old yeah when we yeah when we when we when when we when we ask for questions yeah it's not the it's it's not for the low-hanging fruit that we already have like like you know this one was actually the outlier of kind of being funny because it you know it had it had some layers to it but just the ask him about hurting his shoulder and i'm like oh okay like it's in there but it's like it's you know nothing

special yeah i've got a good story about that but i feel free we got time i'm gonna go for the whole shoulder story so my wife shaking her head my wife my wife i was waiting for somebody to say it. They're waving to you over there. Just waving. So I was out with in-laws and we were playing some badminton in the backyard in the old shell cock back and forth you know as they do in the Midwest.

Nothing beats a good shuttle cocking. That's right. Good shell cocking. My niece hits this far right shot, and it's over by this wood fence. I'm like, that's too far. I'm not going to get that. And then I was like, yeah, I'm going to go get that. I'm just going to stop on the fence. Everything will be cool.

So I start going for it, and I avoid my son, who's to my right. And I think that kind of started me like tipping forward um I don't remember any of this so I'm just kind of guessing um so going towards the fence and what I didn't see is there's like a two inch three inch edging like two or so feet from the fence. What? They were planter boxes. Planter boxes? Oh, no. Oh, that would hurt. I didn't see those.

So I tripped into the fence with my arm up, and there was a very distinct pop. I remember. And then I woke up on the ground like, this is not good. So I can't hear you. What? So you kept telling me. Oh. i was kept telling her i was fine that's what we do right right no there's no thing in there gotta go doctor so seven hours in the er um first attempt to put my shoulder in they like put me on ketamine oh that was pretty trippy um wife was saying that

like you're like asleep and then they grabbed your arm there's two guys grabbing your arm and then your head rose up and turned towards them like a terminator and she thought i was gonna hit them he's a tall dude i'd be afraid of that and i remember this is all high so high on ketamine yeah and i remember kind of like figures talking about my arm or something but i was like pretty disconnected from my body that's what ketamine does and then i was like just like floating in this void and like some mix by uh diesel boy drum and bass was going on in my head. I was just kind of flowing out there and then it's kind of started wearing off. And I was like looking through the matrix,

like the lines and I could see like figures and then like it, I could start feeling my fingers again. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I still have a body. I'm not just floating out here. I'll go back to my body and then i woke up and i'm like is it in is it in and like no stay still it's not in yet like ah and they had to call in this uh orthopedic surgeon and they put me out proper oh they said that um i was too muscular to put my shoulder in or something so i was struggling with that well that makes that makes sense right like if they're messing with the tendons and stuff and there's more than they're supposed to be yeah oh i guess i guess somebody was sitting

on my chest and the other guy was working my shoulder trying to pop it in so they're giving it the business so then they called an orthopedic surgeon put me out proper and he got in um and he like walked out all cocky like look at me i did it and he ended up being my the guy that fixed my shoulder in surgery but i look up from that i'm like is it in and i'm like don't move it's in it's fine just don't move so don't move i want to test it yeah it wasn't good so yeah they got in it didn't hurt at all once it was in um and then i had surgery a week later and that's when everything was that was that was not fun breaking up from that um the first thing i remember from surgery is like my armpit burned i'm like why does my armpit burn

and then like wait this feels like razor burn they shaved my armpit too well yeah like shave your chest and your arm and that was i imagine then i guess i shaved my armpit in surgery and razor burned it and then uh and then the drugs start wearing off and that's where it all kind of gets crappy um and a week after that i entered physical therapy and that's where i found out that they also uh relocated the tendon on my shoulder for my bicep to like prevent future um arthritis i guess because i got out of surgery i'm like why is my bicep all floppy like no one had mentioned that previously i don't think so but yeah that's that's kind of my shoulder story and it working towards it um it was like april that that

end of april it happened and then mid-may had the surgery and then working through physical therapy like beginning of july i couldn't lift my arm like more than what about parallel and then finally like in july i could get it above parallel. So it was very weird, that switchover point, and then just kind of taking it easy and not trying to overwork it. That makes sense. So as the home gym guy, I got to ask, are you able to train at all right now then? Can you get into a squat position and get your arms back far enough and all that and like do a regular bench squat no i have

a ssp for that yeah i was gonna ask it's it's pretty close to getting back there for the squat i just got working at some more uh bench so i started training again. That was 2021. January, I started benching lightly with a Swiss bar. Kind of worked out from there, and then I just hit a 260 bench. It felt real good. That was spring for the garage gym competition. um, well, there is spring for the garage gym competition. But,

but you have invested basically. That was what I was really trying to pull out of that. You've been invested in buying a couple specialty bars. Cause like that's, that's as I always, I ever, anytime someone's over and they're like, why do you have so many of these specialty bars? I pretty much every specialty bar that I have,

like has a story of like, what about an injury? Like, like my, my, my, My back hurt or my elbow hurt, so I bought an SSB. Same thing with the Duffalo.

First time I bought a Swiss bar, I was dealing with really bad tennis elbow and shit. Every random bar I have has been a way to work around injuries so I don't have to stop training. I figured you would have probably added two or three bars to your collection to work around all your injuries. I bought a uh belt squat uh nice like may

of that year excuse me and then later on just uh titan had a sale on their ssb so i bought one of those the it's a bells of steel um arch nemesis bar i had it i bought on a whim because it was new and cool i'm like hey look at this but had it. I bought it on a whim because it was new and cool. I'm like, hey, look at this. But I'd never really used it until my injury. Now it's primarily what I use for bench. Nice. Yeah, it looks like it's a pretty close knockoff of the Cadillac bar.

A lot of my friends have it. For the $200 versus the $600, it's kind of a no-brainer. $200 versus the $600 is kind of a no brainer. Speaking of insane equipment, did any of you guys get the Aliko 16 pound mug? I was going to mention that. I saw it. I saw it. I got the ad and I was just like,

huh, I should get that. And then I saw the price and was like, yeah, I'm not getting that. I just spent $200 on my kids back to school. It was $92. It looks great.

It does. It looks great. Like, I don't know why they only did the limited run. They could sell a lot more of those. Yeah, big look at the Discord. We'll get one of those. I thought about it. My finger was on the button.

I'm being honest. Now, do you have to hook grip with that or? Oh, I don't. Is that encouraged? It does have some good knurling, but it would probably, you know, tear you up. I don't hook grip. And then, yeah, like it would too. Like, what do you, do you do that?

What's that weird grip that people do on squat? Like the three finger grip? Oh, yeah. The claw or something, right? Or talon, I think it's called. The talon grip? Yeah, I'm not doing that. Maybe claw or something right or uh uh talon i think it's called the talon grip yeah i'm not doing that maybe i think it sounds right talent so big ryan i hear you you and i are kind of a kindred spirit as far as uh our well do you your tell us about your music collection uh and how it is uh still a physical music collection

i yeah i've got a 200 book cd right now i'll get that oh nice and that's all i think that's all three of us like i've got every cd ever since i was 16 nice okay yeah so i still like buying physical media uh mostly cds just because it's something to have and to hold and um it's something to have in the hold. And it's not out there in the cloud somewhere. So someone can't just like yank it off. And then I'm going to listen to this album. Oh, it's not available anymore.

So yeah, I typically just have it to rip it and then I don't use that CD or I guess listen to it in the gym. So not, not a big VHS guy. Yeah. him so not not a big vhs guy um interestingly my dad still has his 200 cd changer in the living room because of my kids constantly trying to destroy it we had to like unplug it and hide it and everything but he still got it and i i could feel it and so could he he still got all his too and i i stopped buying physical media a while ago.

It's the thing called space-saving or space-taking technology. I prefer space-saving technology. So I have everything on some cloud somewhere. But up until maybe 10 years ago, I bought everything physically. Not on vinyl, though. Vinyl's insane. So, Big Ryan, do you have a favorite PR song that you just

have to use each time you're going for something big? My friend and I kind of had this joke about NecroGobbleCon, the Magic Spider. It's kind of a little musical song. It's kind of a fun song to pr2 just necro goblin is um no i'm not thinking i'm thinking of somebody else they have a jagermeister song okay all right well i've got a game quick game before overrated underrated

but it is i'm going to tell you guys it is going to replace the silly question of the week um if i'm being honest the the pressure of the silly question starting to get to me so i won't be doing a lot of the the utter silliness of them until i feel like it so that segment for now is dead um but ryan whenever you're ready i have recently maybe not so recently but pretty recently read the history of metal by ian christie okay you know the book no okay so ian christie hosts um a show on liquid metal on Sirius. He's written multiple books about just metal in general.

So I wanted to ask you your opinion on some of these, because I know that you listen to a little more obscure metal than I do. I listen to canonical metal, but people sell me. So I have a one, two, three, 4, 5, and then a bonus question. And I want you to use your druthers and try and give me a little breakdown on why these

bands are important to the history of heavy metal. Okay? So the first band is Slayer Slayer I think first of all I think they're kind of overrated just because it's

I don't disagree it's it's they have some good songs but overall it's kind of not a lot of cohesiveness in their songs, I think. A lot of just screaming, but a lot of people... Well, yeah, it's all screaming, but obviously. A lot of people just really latched onto that sound and were like, hey, this is really extreme.

I like this. I want to be that extreme guy listening to this stuff. And I think that kind of helped make them famous and propel other bands into the spotlight too. Yeah. Okay. Next band, Metallica. Was this an overrated underrated or nope this is why are they important to metal or your feelings on them um yeah i like them

on the whole you know i haven't listened to much of newer stuff, but they were definitely one of the, I guess, really pioneers. I was kind of pretty approachable in their music and kind of spoke to that generation, making me think real hard here. That was the goal. Okay. The reason I brought those two up the way I did is, from what I understand, is Metallica did kind of break the mainstream. Yeah. By doing it kind of faster and better than anybody before them.

And then Slayer did it faster than Metallica. More faster. Yeah. faster than Metallica. More faster. Yeah, I wouldn't say better because I do love Slayer, but speed doesn't always equal good, right? True, yeah.

Okay, so tell me what Mayhem did for you or music in general. I was never really into Mayhem, but so they kind of kicked off the black metal thing. A lot of the, the, like, I think it goes back to like the glam metal time.

And there was like the glam metal and the power metal stuff. And then people were like, Oh, metal is kind of silly. And then correct me if I'm wrong, but Mayhem came along and they were very dead serious in what they did. And they tried to be, was yeah they tried to be um in the whole you know one of their members commit suicide and that whole thing and and then the other one showed up the other one showed up found the body and took pictures yeah and then they he used that picture as their next album cover.

Correct. And took part of the skull apparently and sent it to people. Yeah. Was that Eronymous? Yeah. That all sounds illegal as fuck. It was Norway at the time. Everything was great. Yeah, Black Metal.

It's not real Black metal unless it sounds like it was played on trash cans in a basement right like they get really weird about their their house but also like when you look at black metal from the outside with the corpse paint and the yeah and the dancing in the woods and stuff like that like they're're taking themselves seriously, but from out here. Yeah. It's, I don't think I can. All right. And then that led into,

I think something I brought up last week was cradle of filth. So, um, cradle of filth is technically an off branch of black metal, which is just glam black metal. Yeah. I found about cradle filth when I went to Germany in 1997 or

8. No, it's more than 8. So, yeah. Crayola Filth is like, what if a pterodactyl sang heavy metal? Okay. That would be Murph's worst fucking nightmare, huh? A flying dinosaur? A little flying dinosaur?

No amount of LARPing would help her mentally recover from seeing that fucker. I've got three more questions for you. How important to Metal was Pantera? Pantera, yeah, I think they were pretty important. Kind of like Metallica and Slayer before them they had a very kind of hardcore but approachable songs sound that people liked and kind of new and different at the time um I just heard out of like a glam metal band

oh yeah I've seen the pictures yeah um i'm just not good at characterizing people like this or bands but that's all right i don't i don't think we'd have lamb of god without pantera right i think that's true if you look at that progression that you have a groove metal sound and yeah um interestingly my love of jaeger which will come up again later comes from uh vinnie paul from pantera drummer um because when he joined hell yeah which was another weird groove metal southern offshoot they did a video like they'd released a dvd of their tour and also for those of you that don't know vinnie paul also owned a strip club so he went into a liquor store and he was just like i'm gonna buy a hundred dollars worth of

jagger today and then he filled his cart and then he was walking around and then he goes nah fuck it i'm gonna buy two hundred dollars worth of jagger and he fills it with more jagger and then he walks around and he goes nope that, that's it. We're going to go to $500 worth of Jager. So he just has all this Jager in his cart. And at the time I was just a beer drinker and just doing like, like whatever shots people made. And I was like, well,

now I want to try Jager fast forward to rock star. Was it rock star that did like the tour with all the bands uh hell yeah was the uh headliner on the second stage and i want to say avenge sevenfold and stone sour were on the main stage um and there was no way in hell i was sitting through avenge sevenfold so i found my way to the jagger tent okay and i sat in the jagger tent for two sets just hanging out with the jagger girls just occasional jagger talking blah blah blah and fucking vinnie paul walks in nice so i got to do a shot with vinnie paul after he was the person that introduced me to you it's a whole a whole big thing there um but all right now here's a band that i'm wondering if you ever even heard of electric call boy oh yeah all right what do you think about what they're doing right now

and did you know about them before the album neon um probably not no okay so tell us about what you're doing like tell us what you think they're doing right now and just then i'll give you kind of some insight into why you should not do not look up their old stuff. So they kind of have like a, what do you call it? Like a poppy rock sound, but also like heavy screaming metal and kind of like a fun, very fun attitude about it. Very fun to kind of party songs.

I think it's attracting a certain kind of party songs. I think it's attracting a certain kind of crowd that might be off-put by the more serious bands of metal and kind of drawing them in. I think if you're in the Discord crew and you're at all a fan of metal, you should be checking out the Silly Ghost Times of Electric Callboy. They have a song called pump it.

That's about working out, but it is, I guess what you would call like a mix of Ramstein as well as like way heavier. They have a song called hurricane, which is the first half of the song is a weird pop song. And this is the song that I found out about them from. And when you first hear it you'd

think this was like just the poppiest trash german techno you've ever heard and then the last part of the song is the most brutal death core breakdown complete with pig squeals and everything and you're just like why did i just listen to and then you go deep into them and yeah if you get a chance to hear electric cowboy and you're you know you're in a silly goose heavy metal you're not going to waste your time i have to check out there more there are other songs no do not go into the past don't go listen to the previous episodes. Their previous stuff is like... That seems to be a general theme with you, Joey.

All their old stuff is really bad glim. It's like they were trying to be motionless and white, but didn't have the talent. It was pretty bad. It wasn't until they realized they were silly gooses. All right. I did have one more, but i'll save that for overrated underrated uh you did tell me to hit you with some metal questions it's a little hard that's what we do here we're the hard-hitting version of the podcast in the in the mcu massonomics crew universe oh yeah callback parking yeah i was i was i was reading i was

reading something right when you said it was like oh i missed it but uh i think before we get into overrated i got one more i want to ask you buddy um why the hell are you so rude in discord and why are you keep running off everyone and making these chargebacks be a thing like what is up with that why are you scaring everybody yeah keep our crew tight. Make sure they're tough enough to handle the crew. We're a very serious bunch of rough and tumble people. If there's anything we are, we are all gatekeepers.

We definitely don't want anybody involved. Especially gatekeeping, yes. I guess as a follow-up, I know what you're talking about, Keith. I did go back and read all the messages after our podcast yeah and i was good i was looking at it and just going like yeah that dude he asked only about one or two things it wasn't he asked about the the discount code multiple times despite getting answered multiple times. And then he asked some random questions about form, I guess, or a supplement. I think it was something like that.

Oh, yeah. And then just bail. And they threw us all under the bus. Mostly Ryan. Yeah. So people wondering, he asked about if you should buy a headband or a hat. And of course, the standard answer is no hats. Don't buy a hat.

And that's what my response was. And the hat bot backed me up on that. So yeah, that's my extent of interactions with them. So it was. And then, oh my. So, okay. A completely separate story. Based on that, some other crew joined, and I just simply made the joke,

great, another crew closer to chargebacks. Which is a hearken back to another day closer to Mondays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking hilarious if you've been around for a while. Not so funny if you're brand new to the discord and i that guy that guy messaged me oh wow i was like what does that mean and i was like oh no i had that panic i was like this isn't about you man and i like give him a backstory on like all the jokes that led up to that one little line and then i was just like so if that guy bails that one's on me i guess you really do have to start paying attention in there like there's so many new faces and like a

lot of them are like pretty actively talking too and i'm just like and but it does go back to the i think kevin recently changed his avatar on there well that or there is another new kevin with like a different handle because like it was like is that is that our kevin or is that a new kevin because i can't tell and i think there's another paul now like paul number two i was talking to him about hanging up uh how to yeah i think paul too uh someone dm me asking me how to attach the weight storage to a concrete wall and i had a little whole conversation with them so it's weird like just it's weird talking to to to to new crew because i feel like most interactions we have with people that like you've been like a voyeur and i've seen for years and then like now like most of us know everybody but then when like when you like have the whole new conversation with someone

you haven't talked to before and like you have no reference who they are on instagram or if your friends are on instagram it's just like it it's like it almost feels alien in there so that's that that's my biggest fear is if that if that if that like what's the magic number where that discord becomes like to where we're not relevant anymore because there's so many people and like shit just goes like everything gets missed and only like half of what you say ever gets seen by more than a couple people there's just so many people in there i don't know but i'm i'm not worried about that like i'm not john cena here with a golden shovel i'm not going to start i'm not going to start burying people so that i look better but um i think that i do have to be a little careful in making sure that when i make jokes i don't

have an assumed familiarity with strangers and that they are like, like, all right, like that's, it sounds like you're kidding, but now I'm uncomfortable. I don't want to do that. That's also part of my job too, is I get messages all the time from people that aren't even on my team, but it's just because they need help with something. But because I am active in like group chats and everything like that they're like well this guy knows things so they'll message you and you're just like i don't want to it's not my job to help you it's your manager's job to help you but am i gonna let you suffer

because of that no so i do feel like that's kind of going to be our role we're going to end up being we're going to end up being the elders and even if we disappear we'll still always be there right so i just feel like as a new crew it's almost like just watch for like a week like i wouldn't even like i wouldn't say shit in there for at least seven days and i'd get on there and i'd spend at least 10-15 minutes trying to read everything in every channel it's the only way you'd be able to get any kind of like feel for the dynamic because there's people that there's regulars that only post once a week but like they've been crew for three years and there's like still like one of like the upper you know the you know like they're a very known commodity but they might not say much very often so you just

kind of you know you gotta watch the whole the whole damn page for at least a week or two before you can even get a gist of what's going on i feel yeah let people do themselves uh it's a it's a it's a safe space we don't talk about anything serious we're not here attacking your your right to exist by any means or in any way and if we say something that you just kind of like feel is just just ask like if you're if you're new to the crew and you're listening to this just ask man there isn't a single scary person of those 350 people and worst case ontario ask tanner what did joey mean when he sent this what does this joke mean like if he's the safest guy you can ask

just don't fucking turn whitetail and run like don't I think if anybody's got you it's the discord crew of Massonomics just don't ask Ryan that's like the one guy I'd probably steer clear of you know yeah he'll say don't ask brian that's like the one guy i probably steer clear of you know this yeah

he'll say don't buy our hats and then you'll go no hats the bastard all right all right do you want to play underrated underrated underrated underrated underrated overrated do you want to sure what's that you want to do something it's this game we like to play with everybody uh that we learned um from some guys in the schoolyard um essentially we're going to ask you some hand-picked questions for you and you essentially have to tell us if you think they are overrated or underrated you of course have your druthers to decide on that answer but ultimately you gotta pick a side there's no writing the. You can choose if they are overrated to the world or underrated to you. Keith, as usual, why don't you take the first three?

Let's see what we got here. So, Big Ryan, don't ride the line, buddy. What is your opinion? Overrated, underrated? Boating. boating uh like all that is it's better to know somebody with a boat and then to own your own boat i say the same thing about dogs i'm glad my neighbor has one so my so you go to my mother-in-law's cabin in Minnesota for the 4th of July, usually.

And she has a pontoon boat and a speedboat. And the past two years have not been good for me in the speedboat. Last year, the water pump went out with me in the middle of the lake. I was just kind of cruising around a little bit, slow speed. I'm like, it smells kind of hot. What's going on? Look at the temperature gauge. That's pegging. I'm like, okay, what do i do now so i shut it off and had to get towed back to the dock and

there'll be a person next day and fix it but just kind of like oh okay cool and then this year um we got there saturday took the boat out it's fine took the boat out sunday morning it's fine i went to go take the boat out sunday afternoon start the boat up uh put in reverse to get it off the lift nothing like okay put it forward nothing like is it not going in the gear what's going on here screw with the transmission a little bit uh pull the motor out of the water and the prop is gone like what it's just gone so yeah jump in the water uh found the prop apparently the cotter pin had worked itself out or something so that let the nut unscrew itself and everything kind of fell off luckily it was at the dock and

not like in the middle of lake somewhere because then we've had to buy a whole prop and all that too but it was just kind of interesting experience i guess so very uh overrated i think yeah i got a really good uh kick out of the whole uh i think i think a few of us had some good fun making some memes about you and the uh the prop and the missing nut and just boating in general this summer so that was uh that was why that was specially picked for you this week so my second one for you this week will be how do you feel, overrated or underrated, push-button vehicle starts? Is that from Big Jen? Yes, it is.

So, yeah, I was a designated driver after the zoo. When we get to our car, I'm like, can I have your keys? They're like, you don't need the keys. Push-button start. I'm like, okay. So we get in the car and i go start it and it's like nothing i'm like i i have had i've owned two push button start cars i don't know how to do this so like pushing the brake and push the thing and nothing and i'm like what's going on here so

i just found i just jam my foot on the brake and push the button again and it starts up so i vaguely remember i don't know yeah vaguely remember that like we're all going just to do it just like push the button how did you draw the short straw to be dd that weekend uh i don't know i'm just not a big drinker general anymore so just kind of like yeah i'll let you guys have fun and jerry goes home so well then there you go i'm sure i'm sure several people appreciated that because that was definitely i feel like it was a concern for a lot of people like how do i uh not get a dui this weekend and ruin my fucking life so that was a very good very commendable of you

i distinctly remember just saying i'll figure it out man like everything's not that big i can walk in the hotel and it's like an hour. And I was like, buddy, I've walked longer than that. I was so unconcerned about how I was getting around. It was really funny. Yeah, there were some people that were really concerned. And then at some point, Ryan, I think I was on his... I think you had one drink and then you were on your half a drink after that in 30 hours everybody

was like he's our driver and he's having one and I was like like relax that was pretty funny too we're just like um um but yeah everybody's like we gotta go we gotta go we gotta go we all flooded out after me and Jen did our second round I think of, of Midwest Goodbyes. And he took us back to the hotel and yeah, it was a fun time. Everybody got their one piece and yeah, good night. Zero issues. Well, except starting the car. That was an issue

thrice. The fourth time got it. Fourth time's a charm. All right, well, my third and final for you this week big ryan is gonna be peas what do you feel about peas hate them i hate peas how do you hate peas gross you just i just the mouthfeel is popping your mouth and just the general taste of them gross mouthfeel i was waiting for the phrase phrase mouth feel to show up on this fucking podcast.

I've never heard this. That's like a, is it, is it a feel you feel in your mouth? It's no, it's a foodie said it's a foodie phrase. I think the first time I heard it, I was listening to some fucking hipster talk about some drink or something.

And then they were like, they were like, this has really good mouth feels. And I made a face. And I think my wife was like, you've never heard that. drank or something and then they were like they were like this has really good mouth feels and i made a face and i think my wife was like you've never heard that i'm like no and i hate it i hate the word mouth i do i do get what he's saying though like a pea can be like you you bite into it and then it almost becomes two things it's like yeah it's great the mushy inside and then you have the skin you got to chew on the other side of your mouth. Yeah, it's like a sunflower seed.

It's energy you work for. If it's in something like fried rice, I'll eat it. I don't care that much. But if it's like just a bunch of peas, no. No, no, totally. Okay, I'm there too. I love peas, but I use my mashed potatoes to eat them. Right? Like you've got

to, you need a conduit to get them onto your fork you can't just eat peas um although there is a portuguese maybe this might help you out there's a portuguese uh recipe for peas that involves like peas and mint they're called like mighty peas or macho peas or something like that um they're they're the only ways i've ever eaten peas raw it's just like no no no it's happening oh guess where we're going next time you're up here so everyone uh you know male big rye and frozen peas you know this could just come in a week and then they'll be frozen when you get there yeah well they're good for injuries you know, they're good for injuries, you know? Yeah. They're good for injuries. Oh yeah.

We're going to ask anybody that question. That actually is really good. I didn't even, I'm, I'm, I actually missed that when you said it. So, all right,

I guess my turn, I've got a few to choose from and some of them I'd even just add, um, overrated or underrated Canadian cigars. And this is because I just want some feedback on those cigars we bought together. Yeah. So for those that don't know,

Canada has this big anti-smoking thing. If they put smoke is bad for you on the package and people won't smoke. And I think that the colorful cigar bands will entice you to smoke them. So they cover them with a wrapper. Yeah. It's just plain brown. Yeah. We have unmarked cigars.

Yep. Plain green just has their name on it. But I meant like the ones that you and I bought. How did you, cause you had never tried those before. And I was just like, let's go. Let's, and I think you ended up grabbing a couple extra. Yeah. I got one or two of those.

Those are pretty good. House tour herb yeah so and some nice spice on there uh underrated underrated i'd definitely buy those again and also we can get cubans up here overrated a lot easier than you can actually that was on here at first and i changed it um interestingly the i think my first time in the united states i went to san francisco and i was staying at the fairmont and i had brought cigars of course i'm fine whatever i checked the bag it didn't matter they don't care right because they're cigar canadian cigars and but there's a cigar shop in the fairmont in san franc Francisco and I go in and the guy goes oh hey like you know we're one of the oldest cigar shops in San Francisco blah blah

blah and he says we have this deal that if you buy one of my pre-embargoed you've been cigars you'll get a sifter of brandy and then you can smoke it in our cigar room. And I went, okay, I'm kind of interested. Cause I felt like having a cigar and they had cigars and there's Cuban cigars. Pre-embargoes were $500 or more. And I looked at the guy and I said,

I'm Canadian. That's a 25 cigar in canada and then he was like well you know we can't do that here and i was like no no i understand but like i think your sales bitch didn't work like i don't mean to be rude but i i'm like oh i'm sorry man i can i pay you a cutting fee and smoke the ones i brought and then he was like no no you can't do that so i just left but like like yeah canadian cigars are i don't smoke cubans generally but yeah we're not to go to that crap all right i got two more yep Overrated or underrated? Gravel. Not pea gravel. Gravel on the road. Gravel on the road? Just in reference to something?

Probably. Oh, my car? Mm-hmm. Overrated. See, I thought you got shot at. What's that? I thought you got shot at. What's that? I thought you got shot at. That's the message I sent you.

Was that a bullet hole? Oh yeah. I got like a rock chip on my bumper on my car. Um, which goes along with the big scrape I got somewhere. I'm not sure where that came from, but definitely kind of overrated. All right. And last but not least overrated or underrated new metal new metal um i don't really mind it that much

there's i'm very bad with genres in general but like um there's a lot of bands that like their new metal like mud vein weren't they like new metal back then and i like their stuff and i think it's yeah let's say underrated just to be like i think it's unfairly shit on unfair yeah there we go. And how do you feel about Deathcore? I like it. I'm not like Frank King on that. So yeah. I hate it so much. I agree with him like 90% of the time.

Like I hate the Misfits and I hate the Beatles. Sorry to anybody listening. They all suck. The Eagles suck. Get over it. But then he's like, I hate Deathcore. And I'm just like, nope. Gonna disagree.

It has its space and time there's a lot of great bands out there so and sorry so do those other bands like they have their place in time yeah but like the beatles like the eagles man i do the beatles are the most celebrated band of all time but i like the eagles the beatles are a boy band and i'm gonna say it i'm gonna put it into the world in recording the beatles are a boy band and if you were if they were recording today you would hate them and compare them to the backstreet boys because they were marketed towards young women and that's what they were back then they were throwing their panties on the stage. They were a boy band who then years later, a bunch of like rock guys were like,

Oh wait, this is actually good. We're just going to take this from young women and then just say they were a great rock band. But now they were the Backstreet Boys of their time. And the Eagles suck too. Sorry. No,

the Eagles suck. There's two or three Eagle songs I really enjoy, but a lot of it's just nostalgia. Like that doesn't make them a good band. No. Well, yeah. suck. There's two or three Eagle songs I really enjoy, but a lot of it's just nostalgia. That doesn't make them a good band. No. Well, yeah. And that's why I wanted to get the caveat of like, I couldn't, like, I don't know, I have no clue how many albums they've had, but I could like three songs. I'll will be in my play of my, you know, infinity playlist,

a brief why we're touching on music and like, you know, throwing panties on stage and whatnot. Have either of you guys watched the, the, the Elvis movie that came out last year? It was amazing. It was very good. It was surprisingly really, really, really good. So go ahead and do yourself a favor and watch that big ride.

Not anywhere near as good as Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story. Walk Hard is the greatest music biopic of our time. All right, right well i think you passed overrated underrated i was gonna ask how you feel about jaeger because i don't know if you noticed they commented on our on our on our photo there yes yeah i heard that yeah they're uh i don't know if i should be proud of it or not, but I am like on a first name basis with their social media team. So I'm trying to get,

I'm, I'll put this in the universe. I'm trying to get a Jaeger lifting team thing going. I'm down with that. I desperately, I desperately want it. I don't know if they're even allowed to do it in Canada. Cause there's really strict rules on what.

Okay. Constrolled substances can do right. Like cigarettes can't advertise. Yeah. Like booze. I don't think can advertise anymore in certain industries. So maybe I'll just make one, my own Jaeger Lifting Club shirt and try not to get sued. But I'm pushing for it.

One day we'll get Jaeger Fitness. Can they sponsor podcasts that are kind of, you know, have dual positions? You know, we have, you know, we have we have one, you know, sponsor right now. We're always looking for, you know, anyone else who wants to contribute so we can up our Google cloud storage. We don't have to delete all our episodes every couple of weeks. They they reply to me. They respond to me, except for when I mentioned the Jagger Lifting Club. It's like they're just like, we can't we're not allowed to talk about that so it'll happen one day it'll be like the

the miss the little debbie's one but for metal headlifters all right you passed overrated underrated um nice. I think it's your turn. What do you want to know about us? You don't already know. Oh, he's checking the spreadsheets. Fucking spreadsheets. I think he's playing with it. Now, are you playing with your calculator

that Big Tyler was talking about the other day? He had a nice rant about. Did you guys see that? No. What's the really expensive uh calculator the graphing calculator that you have to buy in high school or like middle school whatever the western is uh the ti texas instruments yes so he he he shared like two or three like stories about how like it's a it's a big scam because it's like a hundred

dollar calculator that like you literally could use your phone and do a better job with and how it's just a racket because he like did there was it was basically like there's they're they're forcing families to spend millions of dollars you know across the world annually big calculator man big calculator coming after you yeah label like an out-of-date product so i just i got i got a kick out of that when i read it i was like oh yeah i remember having to buy that calculator and using it like twice. My calculator kind of destroyed my math skills. So that's all in the calculator. This one's for Keith.

Have you explained what the 73 is in your name before? I'm not sure if I have, but I will. It is twofold. My high school football number from sophomore to senior year was 73. And then it was also the road that I lived on, ironically. So it always is kind of that number will eternally live in my heart because, you know, some of the happiest times of my life was, you know, playing football in high school. And, you know, that's where I lived for, you know, my whole adolescence was on route 73 so that number will you know i was not born in 1973 like you know like some of some of the other uh crew might have been but uh no it was it's it's just my my football number that would be a safe assumption if you saw the 73 in anybody's name that would be a safe assumption i would be

that would make me like then if they knew anything about you, they would know it's not. That would make you what, 50? Yeah, you'd be, no, you'd be over 60. No. Yeah, you're right. 73 to 2003 would be 30.

Yeah, over 50. So closer to 60 because we're in 2003. Yeah, I'd be older. No, you're above 50 i'm an i'm an athlete not an athlete well yeah nope not that one did not land great i got a p man that's all i can think about so do i hit me how about a silly question okay

if you were a fruit what kind of fruit would you be the kind that you eat not you know other things that's what I assumed you meant so I was kind of thinking it might be like a durian because it's kind of smelly and people aren't like too sure about it but

people that like it like it I don't know what he just said a durian durian what is that it's an Asian fruit durian come on Keith sounds like a Game of Thrones character it does too doesn't it they're just ruining my whole bit I smell it

I know things it's a famously smelly fruit that some people really like and other people are like no it's gross. I would be a dragon fruit because I have a lot of flair and I look really pretty, but actually don't taste like anything and I'm really bland. Okay. My jokes aren't landing. These are the jokes landing these are the jokes

these are the jokes guys how do you know what you taste like I'll be a banana because I like dicks like what do you want from me so in response to your joke I can say IJ bowl IJ B-O-L no

that's the new slang that kids are using these days so we have to J-B-O-L? No. I'm getting confused. That's the new slang that kids are using these days. So we have to appropriate it so they hate it. So they don't use it. Oh, make it ironic. I just burst out laughing. I don't know if it's a real thing. No, that can't be a real thing.

The memes are saying it's real. I hate new fucking egg slang. It's so annoying. So anyway, what kind of fruit would you be, Keith? I think the obvious choice has got to be, well, I would say an orange, but according to Joey, oranges aren't fruits. So I don't know what fruit is. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I never said that.

No, it's got to be, what was the? They're not berries. Certain things aren't berries. Certain things are berries. It doesn't make them not fruit because anything that technically grows off of a vine or a plant is a fruit. I got that mixed up. So those are fruits. I don't know. I think I just have to.

Without getting hard, you give me like a week to think about it. I probably come up with something intellectual and like relevant and witty. But I guess you got to go with an orange in general. There's no weeks in the jungle. No, no. The orange glaze went with an orange. That's what I expected. You're right, it was berries, not oranges

that threw me off. So, hair. Overrated or underrated? Overrated. Overrated. Well, so head hair, overrated or underrated? Overrated. Overrated. Well, so head hair, overrated. I do like facial hair to an extent, but I would be okay with being... What are the completely bald people? I can't think of the medical term.

Bald? Alopecia? Yeah. No, no, alopecia. You literally don't have eyebrows or anything like like take so so like no nut no hair or just like a freaking overly hairy like i don't know what would be worse i guess overly hair or i guess you could always shave but damn like alopecia i i vaguely remember i went to high school with a kid that had alopecia and i did feel bad for him he's a lot of people you're like, we're just, this was fucking, you know,

people were assholes when we were kids. So, uh, I guess, but hair in general, yeah. Overrated. I once, I once joked that if I had my friend's hairline, I could take over the world. Uh, but you know, since I don't have it anymore, it's overrated. What about you, Ryan? You're one of the few guys that clearly you have a receding hairline that I think goes all the way back to your ass crack.

Damn. I know, eh? Coming in with the attacks. You can tell he's got a beat. You're still rocking the side head here. You're appropriating our ball culture so you can't talk. I know. I do.

I have the thickest damn... I like keeping my head hair short. My hair just keeps getting thicker and longer as I age. It's very annoying. I'll flip that on you, though. Do you ever take your sides all the way down and pick it or anything?

Or do you like having that feel of hair above your ears? I've never picked it, but I used to not have it as sure as I have it now. And it would poof up. The bolts would look terrible. So looking back at old pictures, I'm like, oh, man, you should have shaved your head just a long time ago. So I can't regret doing that. oh man you should shave your head just a long time ago just uh so i can't regret doing that but um i've yeah i've shaved it pretty close but not like all the way i don't like going down to the wood yeah because it starts to grow in and you start sticking your pillows you put on a hood

and then you got like like the it velcros to the hood of your to the fluff of your hood yeah exactly oh yeah yeah i always call it the the dingleberries and inside of the hoodie that just gets stuck on your your freshly shaved head that's not what that means it's still when i say i got dingleberries on my head what are you up to before you came here or the bangle berries are the part on the hoodies. That's always the sign of how shitty the hoodie is if it's not double-lined and has a good hood. You can always tell it's just a lower quality.

Did you ever rock the call mode for Orion when you weren't fully gone there? No, not really. Gotcha. I didn't mean to keep harping on your hair i was just uh it's very personal i can't believe you did that to our guest tonight i'm not gonna come back i was the guy that did the charge back you know charge backs charge back yeah it was me i could like i i i made a burner discord account and you just offended me so much that i had to do the charge back you know and this was my way of getting back to you getting back at you that's all i got that's all you got okay that was really good we appreciate that i always like it

when it's more than just the one so you know to all the upcoming guests you know try to have a handful for us if you can i mean mean, just burn right through them quick. All right. Well, that brings us in. Well, you've been listening to the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. I'm going to assume by this point, if you're listening, you know where to find us. Find us on Instagram. Find us at unpaidinternpodcast.com. Find us on your favorite streaming platforms. Find us on Discord. Find us at themassanomics.com slash join Discord.

I'm Big Joey. I have been doing this for far too long and have to pee. Where can we find you guys? Big Keith. KeithHenryGet73 on Instagram. Go follow my orange gym, the No Wine Cellar. What about you, Big Ryan? Big underscore Ryan on the Discord or Angry Monkey on Instagram.

The Angry Monk with a zero, right? Yes. Angry Monk. You make me mad. Monkey. Monkey. All right. Well, that about does us in, guys.

Keith? All right, boys. We will go ahead and see you next Tuesday.