Unpaid And Underrated - 017 : Honky Goth

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Melissa The Weldicorn. They dive right into great topics like lifting with kids, rose water, celeberty sex tapes, and Yager vs. Yager. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @weldicorn (https://www.instagram.com/weldicorn/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Melissa The Weldicorn.

Hi, welcome to Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, the podcast where we randomly decide at the last second who's going to do the intro. This week it was me. I am Big Joey and I am joined by my friends Big Keith. Hello, hello. And Big Melissa the Weldicorn. Can we call you that? Yeah, absolutely.

I love it. Absolutely love it. All right, cool. Well, let's jump in, guys. I first got to point out, what a fantastic background. I think you are the most prepared and most um not in sync but coordinated that's what i want a coordinated guest i've ever seen here um you have your lift banner your lift shirt and your lift hard live easy metal all on display this is fantastic uh normally i would save that until our guest is on the horn but i just needed to point that out like immediately

how cool that was um that that takes us into what are you wearing but obviously like tell us about that yeah so i'm wearing my meat shirt and like you said my meat banner is behind me and my medal and uh just a little bit out of camera is my um super cool wooden award that i got but um yeah so I'm wearing my meet shirt because that was my official meetup with the crew. So I am super stoked about that. It will always and forever have a special place for me. That's what I'm wearing.

Hell yeah. Keith, what are you wearing? I am in honor of Big Melissa being on and our meeting. I'm wearing the Lift Hard, Live Easy easy classic shirt who seemed like it was fitting where we're with some, uh, you know, some award winning, uh, record breaking, uh, lifter here. So we got to, you know, dress the part. Great. All right. Um, I didn't get that memo. I am wearing, I am wearing a wrestling shirt. One of my favorite wrestlers died last week, Bray Wyatt.

Oh, no. Died at the age of 36 of a heart attack. He was universally loved, brought me back into wrestling. Even some people and some crew members reached out because they knew how much I cared about that. So I found this shirt. When this shirt came out out when his battle with the undertaker and then it went away and i regretted never buying it and then it came out again and i bought it it's been sitting in my drawer pretty much ever since um but today we are wearing the little lamb find me shirt from bray wyatt uh today seemed like a good day for sure that's super

cool uh keith is it is actually one of my favorite shirts. And I made the mistake today. I had to go into my work. And on the back, it says something like seducer, destroyer, something. And it's got like a lamb on it. Something so totally work appropriate. Oh, absolutely. But like I wasn't scheduled.

I was just going in to like shop because it's where i work and then people are looking at it and i think a priest walked in behind me and then i was just going of course so if you guys are at the lift hard live easy you are aware of my inappropriate shirt choices most days i i did have a job at one i can't i can't remember exactly which job it was i remember more of the just the attitude they had but their whole gist was like if you come in on your day off to pick up your paycheck you have to like not be dressed like an asshole you have to be dressed appropriately and like they were like they would like write people up if they came in like and like vulgar clothing i don't even honestly i can't remember what job it was something i had as a teenager but

i was just like i was very uh i hadn't thought about that in 20 years until you had mentioned that story i mean to me it's like, oh, this is a wrestling shirt. But then I'm thinking, yeah, if you don't know that, I'm sure it isn't. And didn't his tag team partner pass away just a couple years ago also?

The other guy in their stable? Yeah, they had the Wyatt family. Brody died um the only one left now is eric and braun and eric actually isn't under contract anymore but he was still there for the 10 bell salute which is really cool because wwe is normally really we don't let people in unless they're on our stables or our contracts but for for windham is if you don't know he was actually the son of irs or in our shyster from the rotunda family so they had irs bow dallas was there as well um so windham was a third

generation wrestler but anyway that was a good segue what are you drinking that is um i am actually finishing up a glass of wine i um work at a winery part-time um up here in montana we're out of whitefish montana so this is our ultimate we are dog themed which is super cute and super annoying all at the same time um but they make a pretty decent drinkable, easy drinking wine. So that's going down. But I do have a can. So I'm prepared for what's in the can. This is an unlabeled can. Yeah, it is. How'd you manage that? Oh, that's so cool. Did you torch off the paint on us? No, this actually uh one of my favorite things about living up here is like the connections so my ex-husband matt um is a brewer down at camarac brewing which is in lakeside

montana and it's about i don't know 15 20 minutes from kalispell but they make awesome beers and they make all kinds and they just brought this one out it's actually called chinook me all night longer oh come on uh yeah right so good um so it is a double ipa which i'm not a fan of ipas but i am a fan of free beer and so he uh there we go yeah he hooked me up and i told him i needed a special what's in the can. So this hasn't even been released yet. They just canned it today. So pretty excited about trying that.

There's two types of beers in the world. The kind you like and the kind that are free. Right, right. And both will go down the hatch. Yeah, super fan of the free kind. So yeah, that explains most of my adulthood too. I did a quick little border hop down to New York recently. So I actually have my hands on some Liquid Death.

Oh, nice. I'm assuming that's your preferred flavor of the plain, right? Yeah, the unflavored, sparkling Liquid Death. They're giant cans now they're like just the size of my head uh but yeah i've got that going and then um so a thing that morgan my wife has started is she packs my cooler now before before we do this and uh she doesn't price yeah she doesn't tell me what's in there. That's awesome.

Kind of. I love it. So I opened it right before. And I think she wants me in bed early tonight because there are some surprises in there that as I open them, I will announce and embarrass the crap on myself by the end of this episode.

Some liquid ketamine in there for you. I am. I'm not going to add a little Mick ultra. I've got a easy day tomorrow at work. So if I have three or four beers tonight, it's not going to be the end of the world. And I always pretty much washed down the, you know,

towards the end of the episode, I'm always drinking some bottle of water with a orange meal in it. That's something I found maybe about a year ago. I think I'd seen it in the store for the longest time. I never knew what it was. That little squeeze bottle of flavor shot. And I found one that was sugar-free and all that. I was like, oh, this is perfect.

I can just turn shitty water into an orange Kool-Aid. Hell yeah. So I go through one of those about every few weeks. I think I take umbrage with the idea of shitty water. Just buy better water so you don't need the Mio. What water are you drinking where you're like, I hate that? So to harken back to the I like stuff that's free, I will start out with a regular big bottle of water

and then fill it up in the tap for about a week before I throw it away. So tap water, I guess, would be the shitty water. But I still drink gallons of tap water a week. My wife just does not love the tap water, so we always have fresh bottles of water. I think I go out of my way to refill bottles more than I probably should because I know she never will. So it's my way of saving a little bit of know, saving a little bit of money. It's like, you know, go that extra, you know, little, little bit. Um, I was just going to say Keith's wife is right. Uh, tap water is shitty. And, uh, I've been on that bandwagon for about, Oh God, for as long as I can remember, I grew up in,

uh, West Texas and we had chlorinated tap water, lots and lots of it. So from a real young age, I was like, Nope, if I have a choice, I won't, I won't. It's, it's different up here in Montana. We have some great, great tap water, but yeah, I'm kind of a water snob. My city, we have actually, everybody talks about my city. I live in a, what's a steel city, right? So everybody thinks we're dirty because we have like steel plants and stuff like that. That's not why they think you're dirty.

Come on. But we actually have been rated the cleanest water in Canada. Our tap water. And I will attest to that. I will drink our tap water. So where I live, I'm actually on a well. So I don't have access to that clean tap water. I have really weird sulfur well water.

But in the city, our tap water is flawless. And then I'll go to one town over where I work, and it tastes like chlorine. Or I'll go down closer to Chatham-Kent or London, which is close to the border, and it tastes like copper. And then I'll come back to our city, and I'm just like, yep, I see it. I've traveled this entire country, and I've seen it. Our tap water is actually flawless. But I do keep bottled water in the basement, so I don't have to keep doing trips all the way up to get the Brita filter. Yeah, in New York State, with my job, I travel a lot.

Sometimes day trips, sometimes day trips sometimes overnight trips but i'm anywhere from an hour to you know six hours from home you know every week and uh i will you know usually refill my water bottle at whatever hotel i'm staying at or like you know it's like you know if someone has a sink that i can use and uh yeah there's a lot of places that water is almost undrinkable so i kind of of at this point, I have a map in my head of like the, you know, the 15 cities, towns that I usually go to on a regular basis. And I'm like, all right, I'll drink. I'll drink tap water here and here and here, but not but definitely not there, there or there. So I always have to kind of plan that out of how much extra money I'm spending that week on like fresh gallons of Poland Springs. That's crazy. But now, actually, I'm a little confused.

Do you know where i'm from well that's how you said like you uh yeah yeah you're from canada yeah you're like you're like just south of us by like two hours oh okay all right yeah like oh yeah when you said that's not why they think you're dirty no yeah so um. So we're actually from northern Montana is what we like to call it where I'm at here. Yeah. No, we get plenty of visitors. We have lots of people from all over Canada come down and visit. We're right near Glacier National Park. So it's kind of a bucket list place for people. Yeah. Yeah. So we get we get tons and tons of visitors. My city does not have a great reputation in Canada, but it's

getting better. At least we're not Windsor. I equated it to Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh is our steel city. If you use any dirty like Pittsburgh, then you're

probably working on it there i love pittsburgh i'm just kidding i've been out there it's so much fun but yeah just talking trash you know oh i was so excited i was like have you been here like i want to hear about that no all right keith go ahead you've got all the segments laid out on your little spreadsheet here well uh i'm gonna let melissa take over for a second because she wanted to do a what's in Melissa's sack segment after what we're wearing. So let's everyone drumroll for what's in big Melissa's big sack. Yeah, so I'm super excited. We just made talking about water take about five minutes.

So I'm expecting this episode is just gonna get better we haven't broke the two hour mark yet but this might be the this might be the one oh no this is this is the one i'm telling you because we're just getting started with my staff here and i'm super excited i did uh not time this way, but I got my order from, you know, the other podcast. I got it from their distribution center.

So I'm super excited to rip it open and see what it is I got in here. Let's see what kind of coolness is going. Sorry, it's a little more challenging than I expected. Alright, here we go. So I did get... And she

even had scissors. Yeah. That was the longest I've ever seen scissors. So I did get the Raze Hell Odie Green Raze Hell Heavy Hoodie. Winter comes quick here in Montana so I'm excited to wear that. The Raze Hell, Odie Green, Raze Hell Lift Heavy hoodie. Winter comes quick here in Montana, so I'm excited to wear that.

And I got my very own. Keith, I saw this on your IG the other day. Your power lifting record holder. Love that shirt. T-shirt. Yeah, I'm super excited about this. I feel like it's because every one of us contributed to this list here. Somebody somewhere had dropped, like, Occupation or Single Lift or Federation just before the meet. I remember there was a lot of chatter on the Discord about this.

So I feel like that's a T-shirt that I personally contributed to. And of course, I have a bunch of cool stickers, a little Jefferson Deadlift sticker, go-to plates of Mathonomics. And then I have my card. And so, yeah, Big Melissa, you're number one in the Mathonomics record book. So I have it in writing. Yeah, now it's official. I'm super excited about what was in my sack.

Now I'm going to have to order another one because there's another shirt that I'm probably going to be getting pretty soon here. You might as well wait until next Tuesday, right? Right. Were you in on the live recording last night? Did you hear about that? Might as well wait till might as well wait till next Tuesday. Right. Right. Now,

were you in on the, the live recording last night? Did you hear about that? That there's, I don't know. I, I, I'm not sure how much they talked about it yet.

Other than unless someone went back and like read everything in the discord. I don't know if it was like made overly public, but next week, next Tuesday, we'll be the, in honor of their 50, 50,000 followers on Instagram.

They're going to do a 50% off for 50 hours, I believe it is, starting on Tuesday at noon. And basically, there's going to be 20 items that they'll have pre-selected that are just automatically 50% off. And then if you use code 50 in the checkout, it's another 50 cents off. 50 and the uh the checkout it's another 50 cents off and i think each order gets you eligible for a drawing for a prize that i don't recall what the prize was the prize is three uh supplements from fast oh yeah yeah so we're all just gonna order vaso blitz because yes that's right because nitric oxide's good yeah i feel like i'm gonna have to do some shady shit to earn some money this weekend then so we'll see we'll see what ends up happening next week break more records cashing all your stories yeah yeah that's that's exactly what i'm talking

about um yeah that sounds great no i hadn't heard about it. I did miss the live recording. I had a Boy Scouts last night. So, you know, priorities. Totally worth it. I actually forgot about it. So we had just landed coming back from the US. And like I said, you know, I love you guys. I know you're not ready for bed yet. I'm going outside for a cigar. And I sat outside and my phone went like, ding, ding event and i jumped on kind of a little late there so it happens life gets in the way life gets in the way of my acidomics i guess i guess that's okay now um and keith wants to talk about how all of the hosts talk funny. And I don't see it. Yeah. You say yeah. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. You want to talk about talking funny?

I say vehicle weird. Is that a thing? You froze there. I honestly truly don't hear it. Oh, man. I don't say Jaeger funny. It's Jaeger. Yeah, you you do it's okay though how are you supposed to say it jaeger jaeger jaeger yeah so okay so i'm extending the a yeah yeah well if there's an umlaut over it i don't know

i've earned that i've earned the right to say yeah properly i mean it's true except that i was in germany where they make jaeger and it was still jaeger there so like the germans know what they're talking about the germans you can't trust germans they definitely know history shows yeah they've made some poor decisions you can't trust them but uh actually speaking of germany interestingly um i found out about their quiet times and god that's that's very very uh enticing how they have like they have i don't keep it i don't know if you knew this they have like one hour a day and all day sunday where you're just not allowed to make noise you just don't make noise it's awful and rude to make noise um and that sounds great except for

like like no death metal in your garage while lifting type of thing because you can't bother yeah right it it sounds great till you're the one making noise and then uh it's not as great the sunday part the hour a day i dig like i like that but the whole no sunday thing like i train every sunday for like three hours with music blaring from like 9 30 to noon ish so that wouldn't work out for my life but uh the hour a day that just to shut up now is it is it like just like is it lunchtime basically or is it like quiet hour like before bed like what's the what's the what's the one hour a day i i think it was one to three or or 12 to two i i'm sorry i didn't memorize that part of it but just just the idea of being like absolutely quiet

like as a neighborhood for like a couple hours like that's the ideal it would be great now okay so i say jaeger funny jaeger is that what you want me to say jaeger yeah jaeger yep jaeger like yay yeah you're when i hear you say it it's jaeger yeah yeah yeah yeah right when you say it back to me we say jaeger you say jaeger okay so i'm gonna post the song i'm gonna post the song by corporate cloney and he does and there's another one where they i think they're saying it the way i say it but again i could just be hearing it wrong which is fine and what do you say funny? Someone said I said vehicle funny. I think he said I made that.

Do I elongate the H or something? Yeah, you hickle it. He hickles it. Vehicle. No, it's a vehicle. I even skipped the H. Yeah, only one vehicle.

I think most people do. That hurts my throat to not say the H. I even skipped the H. It's vehicle. I think most people do. That hurts my throat to not say the H. I just said it like, I don't like that. No, thank you. I told you, just do it like we talked about in the last episode. Just say vehicles. Just really make everybody...

Yeah, cerakotes, vehicles. Totally take it to the next level. Own it and nobody can mess with you from there and then i guess you know beg and beg and and on on paid well you okay you know why tanner says it that way though right i don't well if if you went back and listened to some of the old episodes you'd know that he went through some speech therapy. So he says a few things a little differently. And that's actually what makes me feel bad about it.

I was going to say, that's why most of us don't bother him for some of that stuff. And like, I thought, I thought you knew because you're Mr. Go back and listen to the old episodes. I mean, there's like 97% of the stuff's in the old episodes. I mean, there's...

Like, 97% of the stuff's in the vault, and that 3% that everyone else... Somehow, everybody else just happens to know that 3% that I don't fucking know. It just makes me look like an asshole, but oh well. I'm sure I knew it at one point. Then what's the point? It's all good. No, no, I'm gonna own it.

I'm just gonna double down on it now what was frustrating like big jen thought that i didn't then because yeah big yeah big big and i was talking to her under our our our our instagram and i even like just so she knew it was me i said thanks big jen g-i-n so going to get a kick out of that. But she thought that I said on paid and underrated, like intentionally, like that I didn't realize I said it on purpose, like as a gag and as a jab at one of the hosts. So she was like, are we just going to not acknowledge that Keith said that completely wrong? Do you not listen to when one of the hosts refers to our podcast like literally every episode and says it exactly like that like that was the that was the bit and i was like uh it's funny when everyone it's frustrating when bits like don't go over like you think they will

it's like ah like you have to you have you to explain the joke it's not a joke at that point i guess yeah no i caught it because i laughed while you were doing it. You did? I thought everyone did, but I don't know. Our podcast mother did not catch it, but it's all good. Somebody also questioned my Worst Case Ontario, and that's a saying up here.

We're from Ontario. Instead of Worst Case, you say Worst Case Ontario. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I assumed you said that on purpose just because it was like a play on words no i just thought you made it up so you'd sound cooler that's no no i'm not that i'm not that clever you're not that yeah no i i listened to you go on about the bag thing um and even i said beg years, like until somebody pointed out to me that bag, like, like, it's still a word. It just doesn't apply in that situation. So like the bag, bag conversation, like that was really like personal that touched

way deep inside because I was like, Oh, man, that was me. Like I did it bag, bag. way deep inside because I was like oh man that was me like I did it bag bag and I I literally had to go back and enunciate bag and learn how to say it right but yeah for years I begged what do you call somebody who bags groceries for a living a beggar not a beggar no not anymore not a not a beggar meister like the bagger meister yeah yeah see what i mean yeah that's how that works you know that's exactly what happens but i don't know i went back and i was listening to um a bunch of the podcasts just randomly um just trying to get a feel for like the rhythm and make sure like I was on point. Cause I told you, I was super excited to do this with you guys. And it's,

it's so great the way it's come along. It's so much fun. And I've, I'm really, I'm looking forward to really getting the guest on today. It should be pretty interesting. I think you're, you're, you're definitely the most prepared and excited guests i think we've had so far uh they if anyone's not well we don't post the video but like we came on the camera and melissa literally has a has a pen and a notepad that she's she's she's reading from notes on some you know or she has like a you know a checklist but then she was also

making notes and that's that's the one that caught me up i was like is she making a note so she can uh harken back to something at the end? What is she making a note for? I don't know. She's just being Ron Burgundy. She's just drawing kitties and stuff. She's just so bored. She's just drawing cats at the end.

She's going to be like, I remember Discord. Go fuck yourselves. I also don't know if that makes me don't know if that makes me sound cooler or more lame that's cooler to me yeah sorry the two coolest guys on this podcast love spreadsheets like I'm sorry you're taking notes

isn't gonna come fair preparation is an awesome feature right it is I agree I agree. I agree. One of my coworkers today was basically like, why don't you apply to be a project manager? Because your OCD

and ability to see and fix problems, you are would be a perfect project manager. Yeah, I've done that a little bit here, but the little bit of extra stress by dealing with the people, the task itself of seeing a problem and fixing it, but then having to be managing the people.

And when they're really the problem half the time, it's like, I don't know. Oh yeah. It's way easier to go to the person that created and can solve the problem and say, Hey, I fix this for you.

And then you just have none of the responsibility of doing any of it. That's fantastic. That's essentially what I do. I took the management role, but I don't think I'd ever take a role above management. Cause like, no district manager. Yeah. That's your job to fix this. I'm just going to tell you it's a problem. Yeah. I was offered a lead position kind of in my job and I'm just like, no, thank you. I like exactly what I do. Thank you. Yeah. I'm a a i'm really happy just making parts and welding all day uh shuffling papers not my damn and i really have a problem with other people's children like i don't

care how old they are like i really like i have to work up the energy to like deal with other people's kids so uh yeah yeah adults are not like i i don't know that's not that's not my there's some people that are made for it some people that totally can do it and that's their jam um it's like the customer service thing um and it's funny though because like at the winery um i i do really well but i think it's because it's a very single serving, like very short interaction. I don't know day to day if I'd be in the same spot.

Well, yeah, I wasn't always good at what I do. And, you know, sometimes you had to be pulled aside and, you know, you're the first real manager or leader they've ever had. That's what somebody told me once. And it's like, yeah, they're stupid. And yeah,

they make mistakes and they don't know what they're doing, but it's because nobody has ever bothered to show them. So you have the chance to be a leader in their job, but ultimately you have a chance to show them more in their life. And if you can commit to that, then you're probably going to be a good leader and i was just like damn it i can commit to that i can do that i want to do that and so but i mean it everything has an expiry date i don't know if i'll keep doing it for very long but for now i'm enjoying it no and i i love that you bring that up um i'm a huge fan of like leadership in theory so like i listen to a lot of other podcasts like um there's a few others

like jocko willing and like um dave ramsey there's just a bunch of other ones that kind of have to do with business and leadership and like as a theory it's i mean it's a leader is an amazing um it's something that you have to aspire to something you have to work towards um and that's more and more as i see it as i listen to it as i get into it like it's a skill and it's a skill you have to get better at and you do have to have experience with. So I love that you say that. Yeah. Ultimately though, whenever I have a new hire and I explain to them, you know, I will show you everything I can.

I don't know what you don't know. There's going to be holes. You're going to mess up. There's nothing I can't fix. But ultimately the best thing I can offer you is to never need me again. is to never need me again. And I will breed into you independence as hard as I can so that when you have something,

you know where to get it yourself without bothering me. That is not because I want to do my job. It is because that will make you a better version of yourself. And sometimes that hits and sometimes it doesn't hit because you're still getting

three or four calls a day and eventually you go, you can't call me anymore. Like I'm off. I'm with my family. The next one you're going to have to figure out. And you know, sometimes they find her, sometimes they don't. Yeah. Take care of your own monkeys. Like one of the things I've listened to is like training your people how to watch, like take care of their own monkeys.

They come set your monkey on their desk or on your workstation and like no man that's your monkey take your monkey with you yeah I try to translate that into raising boys like I have four boys and like just try to try to make that the thing where they can they can take care of their own monkeys yeah yeah the best I can do is give you the guidance to do it well well we got serious goose real quick hey i know i know what happened keith bring something up uh all right so we're we're we get back to the show folks so in the discord it was kind of short-lived under the announcements tabs today i don't know if anyone saw it. Someone had made a comment about how Tanner could sell a shirt to somebody. I'm butchering it. The gist was Tanner's a great salesman, and then we just gave really corny examples of what it was.

So did anyone have anything they wanted to give an example of what Tanner could sell? Yeah, I should have prepared that better sorry no that's perfect um it's actually funny you mentioned that because i was waiting for the question about um and i don't know if this is supposed to come later but where you talk about the the mathonomics piece you missed like the the thing that you should have bought the t-shirt you should have had yeah so. So I was thinking about that earlier and I was like, Oh, it should be the all go no show t-shirt. And I was like,

I might not buy it just so I can like claim to that and be like, yep. I'm the one who missed it. But yeah. I think I plan on buying like six, six shirts next week. And I think i probably will not be buying an all go to shirt just just to kind of live play into the gag of like i don't know

who wants to buy it i don't know i just want to be on that i want to be on the right side of history of not buying the all go yeah i agree i feel like the right side this time is abstaining so yeah yeah but they uh yeah i love that uh tommy had a a quick youtube video out today that was about kilo math and it kind of harkened back to something he talked about on the podcast literally like seven years ago so i found that kind of funny that like i i was almost excited like i think the funniest bit would have been instead of like recording a new video like going through like how he does the kilo math and like the little math equation that's like his little cheat sheet. If he just like went and pulled the video from like the 2016 YouTube video

where he talked about it kind of like two or three minutes. And I think that would have just like, that would have almost been like worth it to just post that as like new content from just the podcast literally seven years ago. But one thing I noticed, I don't know if anyone else has caught this yet on it. I haven't seen it on their podcast, uh,

YouTube videos yet, but some of their shorts and, uh, like, like today's, you know, kilo math, like YouTube's given me ads.

That's the first time I've had a, a massonomics on YouTube. They came with like a, an actual ad that I had to sit through. So I don't know. They, uh, are they switching up the game and making some revenue off YouTube now?

Well, I would hope that they are. Yeah, they definitely deserve it at this point. It was more caught me off guard because I had obviously never – I don't think I've ever seen an ad. I never had to wait for an ad to watch a Mathematics video. So I was like, oh, well, good for them that they are. I'm not knocking it. It's just more of a – was there something wrong with my app?

Or did they, you know, step into the 21st century, try to make a little money off this thing? See, he doesn't remember Tanner's speech therapy, but he remembers Tommy talking about KiloMath 200 episodes ago. I see how it is. Because I listened to it last night. I, you know, I drive like,. I drive literally 20 hours a week, so I consume a lot of media. I listen to a lot of media with my ears. I listen with my ears.

He's got ears like a hawk. I've heard that's how it's done. Some podcasts, you listen with your ears. I was waiting for you to say I have ears like an eagle, but I guess that would have been too on the nose. Eagles.

The Eagles. Oh, yeah. Because of the Eagles. You're talking about shit about the Eagles. That diss was popping this week. Oh, I was hoping we'd bring that up. Like, you don't like this band. Oh my god, I don't like that band.

Yeah, Tanner posted the video on IG, and it had the Eagles playing in the background. I didn't see that. Oh, I missed that. Yeah. We continue to influence them. It was short. Yeah, it was great. I was like like is that the eagle yeah i'm sure that was not accidental that makes me so happy oh it does it honestly it just again tying us into the the mcu right um but i did want to point out how you know most of you that were commenting probably are listening to right now and just how everybody kind of came for me everybody came after me for my little hot takes what i do love is what like what tanner said is having hard-lined opinions on things

that don't matter and i want to point out i was having so much fun just trolling just being an utter menace and then keith without me even prompting him took my side and we were just it was like we were just battling just like the snide comments from the rest of the crew in a good way and i just want to point out that was a good little um camaraderie between me and keith there that just like he would he just took my side and he might even agree with me half the time but that was really funny for me and and uh but that was again just the fun i want to have where who cares about the beetle when somebody was like alvis is a boy band and i was like yeah and like i just what did you think i was gonna argue based on my own logic like yeah yeah he was yeah do you take umbrage with the fact that he's a band and he's all by himself was that the like yeah like that doesn't even make sense of course he was of course he was

yeah i um no i i love when the other host uh threw down the story of, of the, the vet and the Eagles. And yeah, my response was just America. Like it was so like, ah, it's everything, everything. Like I, I buy into, like, I totally buy it. I support that a hundred percent. So I'm like, yeah, Eagles weren't as great as they were, but now, now America. Now they are. Then fucking darn. So yeah, no, I got to get behind the vets, man. That's what I do.

Yes. I always do like when you have some music talk and like a certain song comes up or something. I don't know if anyone is caught on yet. have some music talk and like a certain song comes up or something because like i don't know if anyone like is caught on yet like i will specifically take like top sets that week to like a certain song that is brought up or it doesn't have to be necessarily be controversial like uh i remember like last couple years ago one of the hosts mentioned when he was playing basketball in high school they'd always come out to jerry reed's eastbound and down and i did randomly deadlifted it to that song you know that that week and it's like anytime someone has something

like i'm not it might not if it's not a song i'm already familiar with i'm probably not gonna go search it out like like uh like big big big ryan's pr song that he talked about last week i think i like briefly looked at it and gave it a couple seconds i was like yeah no i can't listen to that but uh no that's not songs that i'm already like if it's songs already in my wheelhouse i'm like yeah i'm gonna go take my working set with that and go to instagram just because it's songs already in my wheelhouse i'm like yeah i'm gonna go take my working set with that and go to instagram just because it's like nostalgia is not the right word but just like it's it's relevant in the moment and if it like makes one or two people that like followed the podcast and discord that week kind of just uh you know chuckle that i then i did my job

um i've been trying to bother you to listen to bridge city sinners so put that put that up your tailpipe um yeah like i forget like they're i think they're called black grass but they're technically like honky goth i don't know what i don't know what you would call them um but sorry i don't know what they're actually there is a term for it um but they are very bluegrass. Oh, no. I'm forever rolling with honky, honky goss. I love that. Yeah, that's what I heard.

That's the first time I've heard that term. Yeah, that's what it is. A bunch of black, silly geese running around, like little actual geese. I didn't make the honk reference. I didn't make that connection. That's great oh sorry no i love it yeah the black metal group yeah big murph and i had a a moment um and when we were at the uh lift hard live you the classic uh waiting our turn to go up and and lift some weight she uh she mentioned the interrupter she's actually singing one of their songs they're a punk band and the lead singer is actually from Missoula Montana and I've seen them

a couple times they're one of my favorite bands so her and I had a moment I went and grabbed my uh beats and I gave her one and I had one and we were listening getting down a little bit just before we went out to lift so yeah yeah music is super connecting and super important like yeah we're talking about making a bad bitch uh playlist see how far that goes for the chocolate chips out there there are lots of chocolate chips we're growing man we're coming hey well invited i'm excited about it every time i see it um i see that you put gauge of strength on here we don't i honestly we don't we can we can push all these for another week too like it doesn't matter yeah i just don't want to i don't want to hear the word gauge again for like another oh god for like another five days yeah and and and

this will actually be relevant because anyone anyone listening to this episode right now that wasn't in on the live recording of the massonomics podcast last week will likely listen to massonomics podcast on monday and listen to our podcast on tuesday and you will notice that i think tanner said gauge 74 times to my side uh tommy probably said it a few times himself, but oh my god. It was to the point that I commented on it because it was so

a lot. Say Gage again. Say Gage again. One more time. For the cheap seeds. We should probably make that meme. I'm going to make that meme while we chat. We can do it. Yeah, I got probably make that meme. I'm going to make that meme while we chat. We can do it. Yeah, I got it. I can do

multiple things. So, Big Melissa, did you want to take a crack at an ad read? A little sponsorship read this week for the Massive Podcast. Yeah. Our financial friends and backers of this little podcast everyone is

kind of a fan of if they're listening. Absolutely. So if you're looking for some new friends to meet and you want to have a silly goose time, you're trying to lift hard and live easy and hoping to find love in all the wrong places, dial 1-800-MATHENOMICS. It won't do anything, but you can get online and join the crew. Join our Discord and listen to our podcast. That's how you make it happen.

That was very, very, that might be the most provocative ad read we've had so far i'm not sure if there's any i don't even know if there's a close second on that one so that was uh when she had she had uh she had she'd give us the heads up there was gonna be it was gonna be a a 900 themed ad read like in my head i got it but i didn't get it until i heard it i was like oh now i did it so that was uh i enjoyed, now I get it. I enjoyed that. That definitely is on brand and silly goose for us. We appreciate that. That's for you masters out there.

Anybody younger than that, you might have to Google it. Be careful. It gets pretty dicey out there in 1-900 land. I think I brought it up the one time, remember, when I was talking about party lines with Scantz, I think? Yeah, with Scantz.

The old party lines, yeah, the old party lines, what they were called is like, because the phone only rang on copper. So you would have one line, and it would go to everybody's house. So if the phone rang, you might get your neighbor's phone calls.

Those were called party lines. But then in the 90s and late, or maybe the early 2000s even, if you happen to get home late and turn on any local station, you had some guy and these like just dancing being like, oh, call up my ladies. And they would just be like sitting on the bed with the phone being like we're lonely call us and that was the that's what party lines turned into that's what they turned into yep it's when you had to pay for it by the minute like our internet kids out there don't know anything about that but uh right yeah i remember i remember watching uh attack of the Killer Bimbos on TNT. Wow. Back when cable, yeah, cable was the thing.

And it was all night. And they had like a bunch of B-movie horrors kind of like just playing all night. And I use the term horror loosely compared to what is out there now. It's like Attack of the Killer Clowns, Attack of the Killer Bimbos, but they would run the ads kind of in between. So anybody of a certain age will definitely remember those and everybody else just Google it. It's still out there.

That was basically, was that the Monster Vision with Joe Bob Briggs, or was that the counterpart on the other channel that was similar, I think? Because Monster Vision was like... I think or was that the counterpart on the other channel that was similar, I think? Because Monster Vision was like... I think it was similar. There was a... Okay.

Yeah, there was a female host who had a very low-cut shirt. Was it Elvira? That wasn't Elvira. It wasn't Elvira, no. It was... She was blonde. Give me a moment.

I'll think about it because I used to... I mean, I used to watch it that was like what was on cable at night i would i definitely grew up like on like like and you know you could always go to the movie store and like rent bhs tapes you know to harken back to one of the other episodes recently uh but like like all the movies we watched like half the movies i watched as a kid were just like shitty B movies on on USA

TBS and TNT it was just like USA had some of the worst corny like sexy raunchy movies it was it was USA all night with Ronda Ronda

I watched a lot of USA up all night as a 12-year-old, probably. Yeah, I was probably a little bit older than that, but yeah, I was still watching that. So, yeah. Speaking of old terrible horror movies, well, not terrible, but

have you guys seen the new Sonic movie yet? No, I haven't seen the other one. Okay. If I haven't seen the other one. Okay. If you haven't, the first one's great. The first two. Well, there's only two now, isn't there, the Sonic movies? Isn't there two?

The ones with Jim Carrey. There's probably two. This one just came out last year. The second one just came out. It's on Netflix now. Oh, I've seen the second one then. We went in theaters. I have kids.

I wasn't getting out of that one. Yeah, well, I love Jim Carrey. So as soon as I saw he was in it, have kids like i wasn't getting out of that one yeah well i love jim carrey so as soon as i saw he was in it i was like i'm watching that uh within the first two minutes um he actually says klatu barada nictu when he sets up one of his traps and and eliminates one of the guys before Knuckles shows up. That's from Army of Darkness. Oh, what a great, great pull. As soon as he says it, I turn to

my wife and I was like, did he just say that? Did he just do that on this? And that was fantastic. I just wanted to point that out and I hope nobody else missed it or I ruined something for you. But that was so cool for me to see Jim Carrey quote Army of Darkness in the Sonic movie. So many layers. Yeah, that is pretty deep.

Yeah, literally yesterday, my 15 year old was like, I want to see Army of Darkness. And I was like, cool. Like, let's do it. We'll do it on this weekend. My boys are with me. So I'm like, you're ready. ready you're ready he can handle it like yeah it's not scary but it's not no yeah it's pretty silly yeah no it wasn't wasn't army of darkness was like the third movie wasn't it or was it the whole series army it was like i'm thinking of like the one where he time travels not the ones

where he's in the army of Darkness is the time traveling one the ones in the woods there's Evil Dead Evil Dead 2 and then Army of Darkness have you watched the of course I have absolutely Ash vs Ash vs Evil Dead

Ash vs something but either way I need to actually go back and finish that. Yeah, anything. Anything involving that universe. Even the remakes aren't the worst, but I think that they're trying too hard to be scary. That is a ringing endorsement. If they

ever have a billboard, I really hope that that is up there. They aren't the worst. I love the originals, and these don't suck. At least it's not me. I it's not it's not because my my my wife always laughs because a lot of times i'll say that'll do like or or something to like that extent like like my my most like excited or animated i'll get sometimes it's just like a very like monotone like i can't think what i actually say but it's like i don't overly like i

i don't get super high with my emotions on that so she always she always kind of like knows that she did good on a present if i'm just like oh that'll work no it's i think i just say that'll work and i like but i say it like in my head it's like i'm excited i'm like yes this will this is a functional gift that i actually wanted and i needed that'll work and as opposed to like oh my god i love this i'm i'm never one to like fawn over something so she kind of like she knows me well enough now to like know that if i say that'll work that like she did good so there's so much appropriate shit i can go off with on that one yeah no no we're keeping it clean we're keeping this one but also i love that so much because it's like code like Like she can read your code.

Love code. And they're like, yeah, I dig it. I'm going to normalize that. We're going to make it a thing. I'm going to hashtag the shit out of it. So yeah, love code. Done. Love it.

Well, I think we've been at it for almost an hour. Probably should try to get the guest on the horn. Remember how I cleaned up all that room on the drive for this recording? And then I was like, that'll be enough we're not gonna go that long all right yeah let's get our guest at the door and kick everybody else out all right uh big melissa weldicorn is that you oh my gosh guys hey what's going on i sorry to keep you waiting but you are live on the un unpaid. I am so excited to be waiting. I'm so, so excited to do this.

Here we go. We're happy to have you. Let's go ahead and hit you off with what brought you to Masonomics. How did you find us? How did you, you know, dive right into the whole lore there? All right. So, um, actually, uh, my ex-husband, Matt, um, he's, he's not big Matt yet. I haven't convinced him to join the crew yet. He's coming though. He was a little jealous when I went to the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic this year, but, um, he, uh, he sent me, I'm a huge Stan

Efferding fan, like vertical diet, like all of the things he's done, IFBB pro, like white rhino, all of it. Stand efforting is amazing. So he sent me the mass economics. I think it was episode two 56 ish. Um, don't quote me on that, but, uh, he sent me the stand efforting episode and, um, yeah, I totally dug it. I like, it was just, it was everything I never knew I wanted in the lifting podcast. It was like, they set out to fix what was wrong with other fitness podcasts. And so I, yeah, I got hooked after that. And I totally like went, I don't know, I listened to Jen Thompson, I listened to Jessica Buechner, I listened to, like, kind of pick and choose the lifters that I knew. And then I started lifting to or listening to the ones, I had no idea what was going on. But it was was funny because I knew I was doing this.

I knew I was coming on, talk to you guys. So I went back and listened to that Stan Efferding episode. Oh, nice. And, uh, yeah,

it was pretty cool because there was a meme contest at the time. And so, uh, mostly squat videos, Matt, he, uh, he won one of the categories.

So I actually got to meet him at the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic. So it was kind of cool. And then Tommy mentioned that Keith Honeycutt had reminded everybody not to buy their hats. I remember that. That's awesome. Yeah. And then there was tattoo talk. So it was before anybody had a Mathonomics tattoo.

And so like immediately I was like, of course, these guys are ingrained in my subconscious because they've been happening since the very first episode. So Big Joey's now got a tattoo and we're still reminding each other not to buy hats. And yeah, and that's still making memes so it's pretty neat to go back and look at it like that i love that idea i think what episode i came in on i think i have to put it on my to-do list to go back and specifically listen to the uh well it was it was the west side versus the world guy. So like that was because I was, I was following him, I think.

Uh, and he just, you know, this was like right when COVID started and I was like, Oh, I guess I'll go watch this, you know, story he shared and listen to this podcast.

And I was like, I was fucking hooked and listened to, you know, every episode since, and you know, the backlog, et cetera. So I really liked the idea of listening to the first episode.

If you remember what it is and then kind of like, wow. Yeah. I that's, I'm like, I'm blown away at that idea so yeah i'm gonna probably listen to that tomorrow and try to report back next week to you guys on that one i think i think mine was jen thompson i think the first one i actually listened to um what was stan was right before jen or after okay good one right after so it's jen and Stan yeah I totally I think Jen was the first time and interestingly also the first ever podcast I listened to I had never listened to a single

podcast because I had no value in it and uh and I was like okay like I like their shirts I like their Instagram maybe I'll care about this. And here we are. Yeah. Now I'm on a podcast. Right? That's super foreign to me. I'm a podcast nut. Like I will listen to anything one time on a podcast. My library is like 30 deep.

I listen to all kinds of podcasts. I work with my hands most of the day. So it's easy to just i mean 40 at least 40 hours a week i have something just you know going in my ear holes just getting it while i'm busy working with my hands well i i personally talk to people for a living right so it that sounds awful yeah it is unlikely that i'm to want to do that and then also listen to other people talk to me. Right. So sometimes I even come home and my wife's like, I want to tell you about my day.

And I'm just like, I need like half an hour. I just need half an hour of not hearing anything. Yeah. But Mark Bell's Powercast was my first podcast i think that i religiously listened to i think i had i had i think i had like you know this was back maybe like 2014 when i was just doing cardio in the gym i was like you know wanted to be able to just throw a a podcast on and uh listen to something maybe 2015 probably uh and you know just you're just googling power lifting podcast lifting podcast something like that and i found that you know, just, you're just Googling powerlifting podcast, lifting podcast, something like that. And I found that, you know, that, that ran for, you know, quite a few years before Mark,

Mark blew it up and, you know, alienated everyone and like literally ruined the podcast. Uh, and then I don't, I never, I think I've listened to one episode since he, you know, he's done his own thing with the other podcasts that he runs basically. But, uh, I guess I, yeah. And so I found massonomics. I had like a void there for a few years of like not having like a solid lifting podcast in my world so it was really cool to kind of like find that again and then find each other yeah and then and then crew evolves right speaking of finding each other tell us about your tell us about where to find you on Instagram, who you are on discord,

how people even know who we're talking to. So I am big Melissa Weldicorn on discord. I am Weldicorn everywhere else. So it's like a unicorn that welds Weldicorn. And it comes from my boss went to Fabtech, which is like the Super Bowl for fabricators. It happens in Chicago every other year. He went two years ago when it was in Chicago and they had a, like, it was like a Hall H kind of like Comic-Con. Like they have like a little symposium. They have like the leaders in

the industry speaking and they were talking about women welders being like unicorns like they were magical when you find them but they're hard to find so um when he came back you know they started calling me the unicorn and i was like no no i'm not just a unicorn i'm a weldicorn so weldicorn on instagram weldicorn on twitter weldicorn uh just about everywhere else um on facebook i'm at flathead metalworks i have my own welding shop that i do like side work in not ready to go full throttle there yet but um yeah flathead metalworks also has an instagram page if you want to see what i can do if you're in the area yeah it's it's it's my life i love it uh outside of lifting welding is yeah it's all of it so what's the coolest welding project you've ever worked on have you done any

strongman power lifting stuff that like you were just so passionate about doing or just like an art piece yeah so unfortunately I haven't done anything for a gym yet um I'm still hoping somebody will ask me I frequent gyms often and point out shitty welds so I'm hoping like the two will correlate um but I haven't been able to do anything yet. Um, as far as like my favorite project, I did seven subframes for tiny homes. So they were like trailers that doubled as the subframe for a tiny house. The houses were built by a company here in Montana and they were shipped out to California, but it was super cool because it was like a real craftsman's project. Like the company that was building the houses really took pride in what they did. They weren't cheap, but they were American made and they were beautiful when they got done with them.

It just felt really good to be a part of something that was truly American made. Everything from the steel we use to the wood, was just it was a great project to be a part of that's so cool i just wanted to mention uh melissa had mentioned her ex-husband matt uh briefly and when because when i asked melissa uh last week about who i should reach out to she specifically said oh my ex-husband matt he got me into massonomics you know we're on great terms and i was just like i was kind of I was very tentative to reach out to someone's ex-husband, spouse, whatever. But he gave me the most in-depth amount of information that anyone's loved one had ever given me. I just wanted to kind of make note of that relationship that you guys must still have on a friend level after obviously ending the marriage for the kids and everything. That was worth mentioning that your ex-husband literally gave the best information from any other person.

So that was kind of neat. Yeah. Yeah, he's a remarkable human being like he is just i mean next level person and then um it's funny because the gym we go to we both go to here and um it still floors people when they find out like we live together and um we still have a great relationship even though we are exes uh it's to say he makes parenting with him like super easy. We're there for each other. So it is it's unique. And I'm really proud of it, too.

That's awesome. So you had mentioned you had four four boys. What what how what's what's the age gap there? Like like oldest to youngest. Like how often were you were you like you know having kids there for a span yeah so there was a while where we probably should have bought a tv um so i have a 17 year old and a 15 year old so they're um 21 months apart and then i have a 10 year old and an eight year old and they're um 19 months apart so i have a couple sets of irish twins they i mean they are just yeah um but they are just like the most amazing creatures and they're super supportive and the fact that their mom can like deadlift them like it helped a lot so yeah my 17 year old just got to the point where like he's hard to beat like

like if we're wrestling now it takes me yeah he had me pinned yesterday and I was like oh this isn't gonna do I'm gonna have to get back in the gym so yeah have to assert that mother dominance that like nope just you know I'm still the boss here being yeah yeah being a strong parent is really fun though right like i i remember the one time we were uh oran was getting his some shots and um he wasn't upset or anything but he's just running around playing but it was time to go and you know he's three and a half or near four at this point. And he just lays on the floor and he goes, no. And I was like, buddy, you can't go dead weight on me. Do you know what I do?

And I pick him up and snatch him up onto my shoulders. And one of the parents went really like, like it was just out of their view that like, you could just throw a kid in the air from the ground and catch them. But it's just like, just stay strong, man. Like,

sorry, you can't, I don't know. Well, and it makes me feel good being a strong mom. And I tell them all the time. I'm like, yeah,

you get a strong, strong mom. You got to figure it out. And I got that from a big squats, like for strong, strong. Like that was. Yeah. Strong, strong friends. Thank you. I blanked there for like half a second. But yeah.

So and then I had a sticker on my welding hood for a long time. The one strong bitch sticker. Nice. But yeah, like it's fun to remind them. Like, do you know who your mom is like bro so yeah it's just it's part of letting them know like i don't know they they can't mess around too much without their mom when i fold their laundry often um i'll be folding in between sets so like when i have those like two or three rest periods i'm like just give me your laundry like give me something to do while I'm sitting here that's not staring at my phone. And then the joke was, I'm just going to always send my kids to school with chalk on their clothes to tell the other dads what's up. Like if they happen to weigh lift, they're going to know. Right, exactly.

Like, oh, here comes, here comes Oren'san's dad again yeah he's not wearing sleeves yeah uh no it's just fine the little guys even they're like ready to come to the gym with me so like they're like i'm like a little bit longer you guys have to wait like one more year but they're they're like ready doing push-ups i mean mean, real bad push-ups, but we're still doing push-ups. So it makes me so happy. I tell Oren that when I think that you're ready to be down there with me and not do something that's either going to kill me or you, then you can come down with me.

The one time I was like, yeah, sure, buddy. Come on down. I was just finishing up. I was doing some accessory sets. And I've got the dumbbells in my hand and he's got a five pound uh just medicine ball and i can see him walking over to my glass scale and i'm just like come on and like i need you know he's four he's not listening to me when i say i don't do that and it's like okay we're gonna have to wait a little bit yeah sounds like uh he sounds like he's about as uh you know help not uh as mischievous that's not a word mischievous as as big murph's orange cats when he's in the gym there just gotta keep an eye on him i guess

but yeah i did just not letting him in the basement for another year or two might just be the way to go for that or until i have more space and i can give him room to do his stuff right just set up a little segregated area yeah so uh big melissa did your kind of love and affection for just uh strength did that come from when you were a competitive swimmer in high school or maybe before that or after that or yeah so i was um i don't know i've always kind of kept in shape in one form or another i guess there was a period where i just totally didn't. And, uh, yeah, I don't like to talk about that part, but, um, yeah, so I'm in high school and then I joined

the army. And so in the army, I mean, ran pushups. Um, actually my best friend while I was in the army, she was a gym rep. She did more like bodybuilding style, lots of reps, lots of sets. But she was always in the gym. And so I just started going to the gym with her. I got out and I took some time off. I had some kids. And then about seven years ago, five, it was about seven years ago, I started going hard again. I worked on my squats I was I was squatting everything like anything everything let's go um and then in the past probably two

years I really kind of started getting serious I wanted to become a competitive uh bodybuilder power lifter weight training person like I didn't have anything specific in mind i just really wanted to get a lot more serious about it so yeah that's where that comes from uh would you have done a meet if the lift hard live easy classic wasn't a thing do you think you had a power within me on your radar was that in the pipeline if the crew was there to motivate you or you think you would have just been like so yeah so definitely i would have put it off and put it off and put it off even with tanner's super motivating video about um not putting it off and doing your first meet. I think I would have put it off more, but it came at a time when the announcement for the actual meet came at a time when I really, I needed something to look forward to.

I was looking for something big to happen. Something that just kind of pushed me into the next kind of level for it. So when it came out and I, I managed, I wasn't in the crew at the time, so I managed to get a spot and not be crew. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was fate. Like it had to, had to happen, but yeah, I don't think without Mathonomics, I would have kept putting it off. I mean, I would have just, you know, made another reason or another excuse or, I mean, 15 hours to South Dakota and I still managed to make the meet. But yeah. And then the crew was just so supportive and so awesome. I was really having a hard time right before the meet. I was sick. I wasn't feeling it.

feeling it. Training hadn't gone the way I wanted it to. At the time, I was working about between 70, 60, 70 hours a week, and then trying to train on top of it. Yeah, it was kind of brutal. So I was thinking about pulling out of the meet, like just not going. And I got on the discord I joined the crew got on the discord and man I could not have asked for any more support I could not have asked for people to be more understanding and just show up just do the thing just don't bail and it was the best advice I had ever gotten like it was so great I loved it and so i knew i knew i had to be there if there was nothing else i was going to do this year it was going to be at that meet i think i remember that i do think i remember a few of us i might have even commented on that too um just saying like yeah yeah getting in i think i said getting injured right before your meet is the rite of passage so that you can say this wasn't the meet I wanted.

Yeah. We all do it. Every single one of us. Yeah. It's like self-fulfilling prophecy or sabotage or something where you're like, oh, I'm injured. I'm not going to do as good as I thought. But like, then that didn't happen. You did great.

And Ryan wasn't rude. And that great. And Ryan wasn't rude. And that's important. Ryan wasn't rude and made you leave. Didn't run this one off. I have now moved on to the surprise. There's only two in there. Steve Austin's broken skull IPA. So you guys got in Buffalo.

Yeah. Part of me coming to the United States is I need to buy Steve Austin's IPA every time I'm down there it is so good so I'm pretty happy I'm drinking it right now but it is strong it is a strong beer so we're doing it live

do it live I just said I'd update you guys with my surprise cans because I have a whole surprise can thing going surprise can I feel like I want a surprise can now. So yeah, I remember one thing that kind of caught me off guard. I met Melissa at Pounders on Thursday night

and I don't think you had your openers picked out yet. You didn't know anything. That must have drove you fucking insane. Oh, I was like, what the fuck? How do you not have a whole map out nine for nine anything like that must have drove you fucking insane oh yeah no no i was like i was like what the fuck like how do you not have a whole meet like mapped out nine for nine like for everything to go but uh no it was really cool like to watch like like six people at the table like just offer

you know unsolicited advice uh you know and i think you were just kind of like oh this is a i thought i think i could like see your eyes like oh, Oh, I found my people. Like I was just kind of cool. Uh, yeah, no, it was super awesome. I mean, I really didn't know what to say. I've never been to a powerlifting meet,

much less been in one. And so like, we're talking nine for nine. I'm like, what, what is, what does that mean? Like,

and I really just have clueless, so clueless. I should watch more YouTube. I'm sure I could have done more research. But I mean, up until the last minute, everybody like for as clueless as I was, like everybody was super kind and just with the best advice. I mean, everything from like what to eat the day of the meet. I went to after that night at Pounders, I ended up going to Walmart to buy like stuff for the meat. Cause I, I didn't have anything. Like I didn't know what I was going

to be eating. So I was like, cool, I'll just go to Walmart. And I picked up some stuff and I kind of find what I liked and it worked out really well. But yeah, everybody was just so supportive. And it was so funny I walked into Pounders and I'm by myself um I didn't have a plus one while I was there so I walked in and I'm like I'm not sure I can find everybody but I walked around the corner and then there's a table full of Mathenomics t-shirts and I was like yeah I'm in the right place absolutely and I was uh wearing my uh kind of thick kind of fat shirt so I think that you know that was awesome everybody was just like oh we know you and uh yeah it was great it was so much fun that night um yeah so that was my

introduction to the crew like actually getting to meet people. And it was great. And then the other host showed up and that was fun. The other. That was a pretty cool surprise. Like that they were I just didn't think they'd be able to make it out. You know, I was like they had a 15 hour day building the booth and setting up the meet. And then it's like nine o'clock. They roll out for like a late dinner or whatever.

We're all still there i was like that was that was honestly i think thursday night at pounders was like probably my favorite part of the whole because it was it was after like a shitty travel day and it was just like the way to cap off like a i don't know i just i really enjoyed pounders more so than a lot of the other like just you know nothing nothing everything wasn't awesome but i think pounders was like slightly above everything else for me i just enjoyed it because it was like because because everything was new it was the first time talking to this person so like i met like six people at pounders like whereas after that it was just like oh okay it's like it's so cool to talk to you but i already met you like whereas like pounders was like oh sweet i'm like i'm like you know my eyes

were in the swivel was like oh new person new person new person new person so uh that was cool but uh i really liked not being in a hurry there was nothing we had to do like there was no place we had to be so after driving as far as i did to get there and then showing up and uh ryan big ryan well jacked in ginger he was there and then the Damagers were there. And like, just, you know, Big Matt was there. So like just sitting down at the table and knowing that like, you know, we didn't have anywhere to go. Like we were, that's what we were doing. We were sitting there, we were chilling, we were drinking, we were like just hanging out until whatever happened next. I love that part of it.

There was no agenda. There was no hurry. It was really relaxing. We were mainly just waiting to see if the traffic stopped. If the traffic stopped in front of Pounders, it would escalate too much. Right. We got to watch somebody get pulled over. That was interesting.

But now that you have that meat under your belt, outside of like, so say there's not a like, or do you think you're going to try to squeeze another meat in between now and next year before the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic Part 2 or 2024 if we're going to call it whichever. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I met, uh, big David and his wife, Katie, who ran the lift hard, live easy, classic meat. Um, they're putting on, uh, the shield maiden in Fargo, North Dakota. I believe it's like January 13th and it's an all women's power lifting me. I did see that. So yeah, I'm super excited for that. I think that's going to be like my in-between meet. Fargo is also about 15 hours. I might fly though, just because it's in January. Yeah.

So that drive, that drive's not going to be the same as it was down to Aberdeen. But yeah, I think that's going to be my next meet. I love them, the Stentlunds. They were just so amazing and they ran the meet so smoothly. They really have so much invested in it. They're so practiced. I know it was my first meet,

but you can tell when something is done well and they do things well. So I'm looking forward to the shield maiden well if you're if you're looking forward to that you're a fan of big dave i would recommend uh tuning into uh the podcast that comes out after yours yes i'd love that yeah definitely look i'm making notes right now. Listen to a podcast on a Tuesday. Tune in next week. I probably wouldn't have otherwise. Yeah. Wait. No. No. No. I'm going to listen regardless.

Just a second. Alright. I was surprised that you said you went to Walmart. I heard that you're not a fan of Walmarts. No, Walmart's the devil. Yeah, I hate that place. The devil.

Yeah, it will make you spend too much money. There are too many people that are unwashed there that just don't try in life. I have no problem with my disdain of Walmart. But in Aberdeen, South Dakota, there's not a whole lot open at 10 o'clock at night. Or 10.30, 11 whenever we left Pounders.

Yeah, it was like 10.45. There was a Target next door, but Target probably closed. Walmart's usually 24-7 and Target closes at probably like 9 or something. So that makes sense. And Target's not that much better. Like Target yeah it's a hair above but yeah i don't know in the states it is a little bit better i mean i can't speak for canadian targets but because they're down here it's okay we'll see yeah there aren't no there were and. And I think I've told the story before that I worked at Target Canada.

That's how I started my career in this company. That's actually where I met my wife. Where she worked at the Starbucks in our Target. And it was actually up here, a higher end version. You go to Target when you didn't want to go to walmart because you didn't want to deal with the bullshit at walmart but now that i've been to several states i will say that like even the target yeah a little nicer than the walmart but not by not by enough in most scenarios depending on where you are the one in the one in Niagara Falls was not

that much better but also I despise Walmart with a passion maybe I just don't like department stores that could also just be me um I don't like fluorescent lights and and humans um but every time every time my wife's like you know we have to go to Walmart today and I'll just get that low. And she's like, I know. I, yeah, I go to Walmart about once a year for my kids at Christmas time when they're looking for presents. And they know, even my children know that it is a big deal to get their mom in a Walmart. I like Dr. Squatch soaps. deal to get their mom in a Walmart. I like Dr. Squatch soaps.

I just... I pay $10.50 a bar Canadian to have them shipped to me. Walmart sells them for $8 each. Then we were in there and I was looking and I was like,

they're going to make me come back here. I hate this. That's where you buy $100 worth of it so you don't make me come back here. I hate this. That's where you just buy $100 worth of it so you don't have to come back. Yeah, well that's the goal. Eventually the goal is to just send... See, if Walmart was smart, they'd have an Irish pub attached

where me and Oren could sit there on his pod iPad and my wife can go shopping and I just drink a beer and not deal with the bullshit. So you won't take your four-year-old to the gym, but you'll take him to the bar. Now I see.

That was where his mind's going. Less things for him to break of mind in the bar. That's true. It's their bar, not your bar. That's good. So Melissa, it looks like you're a world traveler. Well, maybe not a world traveler, but you're a North American traveler.

You've lived in many a state. I'm assuming that was all military related or were you just a natural wanderer regardless of military? So I do wander a bit. A lot of it was military motivated, but i don't have any problem living anywhere actually the move to montana wasn't military that was like retirement so i was like yeah let's let's move to montana why the heck not um my well matt is from Wisconsin. So when he was deployed, I actually went and lived in Wisconsin for a while. I don't know. I love to travel.

I love to see new things, especially in the U.S. Like, I want to, I've done world traveling. There are some places I want to travel more. But honestly, like, yeah, yeah. I'm not allowed in Canada yet. We'll talk about that later. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. It happens. Um, those Americans out there from the North will know what I'm talking about, but yeah, eventually it'll be fine. Um, so yeah, like there's, there's some stuff I still want to see. And I,

I just, I will pick up and go like, let's go wherever, whenever let's go. It's gonna be a little harder with four kids though. And like, well, the whole moving aspect,

I guess if you're talking about like just going for like, yeah, we get trips to stuff that's, you know, but Jesus, you have the motivation to travel after working a 70 hour week. Because like, if I work 40 hours, if I like, like, I have the luxury, like I'm spoiled to where like my company, like they're pretty harsh on not wanting us to get overtime.

So it's like, I get my 40 hours in unless the project isn't finished. Like I'm kicked out of the office. Like, you know, so there's a lot of Fridays I'm out at like lunchtime just because I've already worked a little bit over. So the fact that you were saying you work 60, 70 hours and you're just like, just motivated to still travel. Like that's kudos to that because I struggle to travel when I'm actually on free time. Yeah, I love it. I live in Northwest Montana for a reason. The camping, hiking, fishing, like anything outdoors, anything I can just get out of town for I'm game so I'm like

yeah it's been a 50-hour week I probably still have 10 hours worth of work in my own shop but also I live I actually live only about an hour and a half south of the Canadian border so like we can travel all up around here and there are no people and it's gorgeous, like mountains everywhere. We're in the Rockies. So it's just, it's beautiful. So yeah, pretty motivated to travel. I will say I'm the same way. We work, I work in a relatively seasonal business. So like every financial quarter towards the end of the quarter, we will ramp up and just be utterly slammed. And then you can usually see that my vacations are timed directly after the financial quarter because I will work that fine. I'll do the 40 to 50 to 60

hour weeks, but then I'm going away. I'm going so far away that if something happens, you can't get ahold of me. Right. I think last October I just turned to Morgan and I was like, yeah, I booked us a cabin up in Muskoka. And if I don't care, if my store is on fire, I can't come back. I don't care. So I kind of see how like that works where I'm so motivated to travel and leave and I'll drive for three hours just so that I can say, oh yeah, that sucks. I'm not coming back. I just want to be so far away from it. Totally get that because next week the Pixies are playing down in Missoula. So it's September 7th, they're playing down and Missoula is only two hours south of us but we only have a three-day work week so I'm like well I'm gonna have to figure that out because like I'm not missing

that concert it was really hard to get a ticket they sold out in like three and a half minutes like yeah I'll be there for that so yeah I'd love to travel and just as a side note I am now having which I probably shouldn't be switching up, but tomorrow is Friday. So I'm going to do this. This is a nod to my friend, Jen Damager. She introduced me to Empress Gin while we were in Western Northeast South Dakota. So I'm having a gin and tonic on gin. I found a gin up here.

Gin, gin, gin. Yes yes my den is the best um we went to the fergus festival and they had a thing there and there was this thing called like it's like juniperus maximus uh and the guy i was like so what makes this gin better than others and he said well most gins soak their stuff in juniper for 24 hours and we do it for 72. And then I was like, okay, let me taste that. And Oh my God,

it was like, I love, um, like tree flavors and flowery flavors and stuff like that. Yeah. Oh, it does. It tastes like you're honestly like laying in a pile of juniper.

So that is, that's amazing no um i'll have to find some of that to bring down for you guys absolutely yeah jen is the one who turned me on to this and uh yeah i'm not going back i'm hooked and and it's made in canada i believe so yeah it's pretty cool so on my notes here I I know you were in the army but then it also says that you received a scholarship to the marines or from the marines like how so you're uh you're a dual branch service woman. So I was intended to be. So I got a I started out from high school. I got a Marine Corps scholarship. I went to Texas A&M. I was in the Corps of Cadets for two and a half years.

But I kind of drank my way out of that one. So I had way too much fun in college. So after a certain point, I did decide that it was just, I mean, being an officer was super cool, but I couldn't keep up at that time. I think my maturity, like I just, I wasn't there. So I went back home to El Paso and that's when I joined the army. So I did have a Marine Corps scholarship but I ended up enlisted in the army which was like the perfect place for me to be like I'm

my 17 year old and my 15 year old they know it they're more mature than me now so I can't imagine myself at 21 they're like mom seriously, seriously, come on. So yeah. Yeah, at 21, I needed to be in the regular army. And it worked out great. It worked out great for me. I had to do a lot of really cool stuff. And let's look at it this way. If that had worked out, then you probably wouldn't have been hardest lifter and best female masters lifter at the lift hard, live easy.

Exactly. Right. So everything happens for a reason. That's where I was going. He took the words out of my mouth. Yes. Now, since it was your first meet, you probably didn't have like a big grasp on what dots is for Wilkes. So like, Oh, nobody does does don't even mess around I don't even know that there I I doubt you knew that you were gonna win anything or that you were in

the running to win stuff so was it actually a surprise when you won you know best masters female and uh best uh you know you have your wooden prize as well so like were all those kind of surprises to you or were you kind of like oh it isn't my turn yet or was it a complete surprise oh no i was completely surprised like the very first time so they they the medal was first and like they call my name and i was like oh my gosh like cool because i'm. Like I'm a master. Let's get it. Whatever. And, um, I, I really, I didn't even do like, I didn't even PR at the meet, which I didn't know. Like you don't have a, I'm going to interrupt you. If you don't have a meat total, if you've ever done a meat, you don't have any, like none of your list out as far as like, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Can I just, can I just say,

I want to ask a very, very serious question. What does PR stand for? Personal record. Personal record. So the most I've personally ever lifted, not a meat record. That was my fault though. I didn't have a meat PR. There we go. pr there we go i get that so there wasn't like as far as a meat pr yeah i set my prs but as far as like a gym pr like yeah at home um yeah yeah exactly so i but i got all white light so like i'll take the trade off any day. Like there was no, and that's what I was more afraid of. Like my technique would be off. I wouldn't pause long

enough. Like the judges would hate me. Like, you know, whatever the fear is, that was kind of irrational at the time. Um, that, that was more of my concern. And I got some really good advice around it. Like, just get your white lights to start, like just get it down so that you're sure what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing. So I wouldn't take that back, but I am also looking forward to next year's lift hard, live easy, where I'm going to totally push those, those meats PRS so that the next you know same with the shield maiden

like i'm going to push those prs in a meat higher and then it gives me something motivates me to move forward and lift harder and then and then live easier right part part do i was being semantic there because i think that when you say like you know when keith is saying well it's me like i understand that there are differences you know but if i'm in my gym with my bar and my lights and my music nobody watching i can do a certain amount of weight might even have my belt my straps and my comfortable clothing not my singlet all of that but doing that in a meet and maybe giving up a couple of pounds where you've got to there's no there's no clock timers in there what is it there's no lift timers in the jungle there's no like 30 second counter being like enough with

your setup lift your fucking weight so i just want to point out that like that does matter it absolutely does matter meat prs are important because meat prs are so different than personal prs however both matter both are very yeah and so i'm really fortunate that the gym that i'm part of, we do, or we did, it just got bought by new owners last year. So up until that point, every six months, we would do like, we do like a lift day. Like everybody comes in who lifts regularly there. We go through bench bench we go through squat we do go through dead lifts and then we kind of just like round robin it and kind of do our max lift so it's a mock me yeah yeah i guess that's the best way to describe it so i hope you don't do it in that order though do you bench first because that or is it ever everyone's just on all three things at the same

time and just kind of like having fun? No. So we, yeah, that's what I mean by like, so. Because if I bench squat deadlifts, I don't have an aneurysm. No, we bench first and then we were squatting. Yeah, we did bench first. So, yeah, like it was just different. It was like, and it's nothing like formal. It's totally like chill. but it was just kind of

fun so I know even like as far as PRs I I can do more and now that I know how a meet goes now that I've kind of had my cherry pop like let's go like I know what to expect on the next one and and I was really fortunate that I was at a meet where I had so much support so I couldn't have asked for it any other way yeah yeah I undercut myself by like a lot of weight on my first meet because I just didn't know what I was doing yeah and then on the second meet which was the officially sanctioned one I was like no no I want to fail every third attempt like that's I'm going to fail i'm going to do five percent over what i did in the gym because if i don't do it here doesn't matter right like i did this first and second attempt

second attempt so and then i ended up getting a fourth attempt on deadlift and still just shattering all of my records so um yeah so i found out what else my wife has packed um and if you have been paying attention instagram you have seen this she has given me um a pickle back yeah she has taken two smaller fireball bottles okay and put whiskey in one and pickle juice in another pickle back in another so i'm gonna mute this that is a very southern thing i love that so much and a very loving yet sabotaging wife so she's amazing let's see if i'm one eye in this interview by the end of the i'm i'm three this might be the most uh i'm three beers deep so i feel you on that uh do you not know do you not know what a pickleback is i've

never heard of one but i get the gist of it interestingly enough on one of the previous podcast episodes i probably heard you say not ours i meant the massonomics one where in the discord i brought it up and then they started talking about it i'm gonna go ahead and mute myself and try and drink this uh if i run to the washroom oh you have to leave the video going. Oh, I drink these all the time, but not during important events. Pickle juice. I guess pickle juice would matter on what

flavor pickle is. Oh, it's so good. I'm a bread and butter pickle fan, not a dill pickle fan. Oh, are you really? I picture you as a sweet gherkin guy. Oh, hell yeah. But I know theton Plumber to me is a sweet pickle I guess so how'd that go down Joey?

the entire point of Picklebacks is that went down like nothing yeah they like neutralize each other yeah absolutely you don't taste anything I'm so excited for you I don't even have any of it i'm so excited for you like i don't even have any of it i'm so excited for you i'm like man set me up let's go i was like where's big lou with the

fire i know right the first time i ever had a pickleback was um me and my friend jay who i spoke about with the candle uh incident um oh yeah No, that was amazing. By the way, we, we went to what was like this heavy metal brunch and we're the only ones there. We're sitting on this outdoor patio and there's like heavy metal blasting and me and him, like, we got nothing to do for the next two days and the bartender's like, you guys ever had a pickle back? And we're like, no. And he goes, yeah, you're about to.

And we just spent the entire morning drinking these things. And then, yeah, they've just been a staple in my self-destruction for quite some time. No, I respect. I enjoyed that so much. Yeah, big ups to my wife for all of this. She is actually amazing. Alright. Alright, alright, alright.

What was the pickle that you mentioned there, Big Melissa? She had mentioned a difference. Yeah, it's a sweet gherkin. So it's a little pickle. They're like the smaller ones.

Yeah, I'm trying to imagine. Yeah, I've had those. They're like extra textured almost too, right? It's kind of got little spikes on it, kind of. I just love me some strong dills. Dill is such an incredible flavor. I like dill with

cream cheese and then you wrap it in ham like you take like just regular i don't know i guess like black forest or honey ham just like deli slice for a sandwich the thing kind though and then you put some cream cheese in it with a piece of dill and you roll it up oh my god it sounds like a midwest salad it sounds like your midwest salad that is so close though because it came from it sounds more like a sandwich with a sandwich with a ham bread do you guys have dill dill pickle chips down in the states oh we do okay all right because we get the ones that are yeah so we even have the

ones that are like hamburger cut so they're cut long ways instead of in little chips you know what i mean like oh no different thing like so like like like chips like lays potato chips that are like dill pickle flavor dill pickle yeah okay yeah no i know i know what pickle chips are yeah crisps oh okay oh somebody somebody's been to europe i just watch a lot of british TV It really is. We call them crisps. I watched Ted Lasso this year. That's all that was. Hell of a show.

That's a really good show. Isn't it amazing? I encourage everyone to watch that show. It's so good. It definitely does. Season one was the best. I agree. All right.

So I have a question based on all of these notes. How do you hate mangoes? What's up? Oh my gosh. Like, no, I'm team mango. Like,

all right. So, um, when we deployed to Iraq, we were in OIF one. So we were the first deployment out, um, after like we crossed the border.

So we didn't have DFAC. So we didn't have dining facilities while we were there. So when they eventually got them, like nine, ten months into the deployment, they would source the dessert from local places. So the only thing that was available was mango and rose like they had a rose flavored popsicle and they had a mango flavored popsicle so any dessert we had was either rose flavored or mango flavored i see well nobody here in the state eats rose anything. We have mango everything. And ever since then, no. No mangoes.

No mangoes. Just the smell. I love mangoes. I can see how that would not affect you. Rose water, as an interesting thing, is very good for you, but is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. It tastes like an old lady yeah like if you're licking an old lady's bathroom yeah like it really just i just can't wait for a mouthful of potpourri hook me up yeah but it but rose water is very very good for your stomach yeah when i was in um alaska they would do the rose hips

like rose hip tea and rose hip yeah whatever it is so they're just like the little rose bud um yeah i couldn't i couldn't mangoes and roses they're just off limits it's not a thing anymore okay quick game yes go um favorite thing about alaska and least favorite thing about alaska oh okay favorite thing about alaska um can i just say everything i fucking love alaska so much but uh. Everything sounds like riding the line. I know. So wild blueberries. Oh, hell yeah. There's a boreal. Arctic circle. Loved it.

Uh, Ooh. Oh no. Favorite thing. Northern light. Yep. Hands down. I've never seen them. I always worry that when I see them, I'm going to cry like a baby.

Oh my God. It's, it is spiritual. So yeah. It's on my bucket list so alaska favorite thing northern lights least favorite thing probably that the snow doesn't stick so you have like snow but it's very dry it is not wet snow there's not a lot of humidity you're basically in a like desert tundra so it's like very dry but very like cold so when you do get snow it doesn't stick together so there's no snowmen there's not really a whole lot of like snow caves the snow is just kind of so shitty snow

yeah so yeah that's probably the worst part but i loved the left so much i was expecting bears to be the but you're in montana so like you're kind of just used to bears yeah it's just part of life it's fine when um when we were i mentioned earlier we drove to muskoka and um and morgan had never been up that way. And they, when you are living in an area with bears and, and other kind of animals, Keith, you might not know. And some of our listeners might not know you have to have specialized

garbage disposals. Like you can't just have open receptacles because it will attract black bears and stuff. So I, I, she said, I, this is the garbage can.

I don't know how to use it. And I walked up and I put my hand in and unlocked it and opened it. And she was like, well, I wonder why they have those. And I was like, well, it's bears, Morgan. It's bears. We are surrounded by bears right now. That is so adorable. I mean, if you've never been a part of it, you wouldn't know.

I wouldn't know unless I had traveled to BC. Because you're walking through Banff and you're're walking past a garbage can, and you're like, why does that look like that? And then you look down, and you see the cougar or the bear tracks next to the garbage can, and you're like, oh, that's why that's like that. That taught me pretty quickly. I saw an Instagram video this week where a guy was just crawling into a cave, like a spelunker, and he walked in on a fucking sleeping mountain lion.

I couldn't imagine just like randomly walking into a cave and just coming to, you know, face to that. Most of the times by the time you've seen a mountain lion. Yeah, it might not. I wouldn't say it's too late because like they're more they're afraid of you. Mountain lions are just big, small cats. No, I totally would say it's too late because they're afraid of you. Mountain lions are just big, small cats. No, I totally would say it's too late. So mountain lions are super, I mean, they're mega predators, like up here anyway. Like it is way worse.

Yeah, do they go after humans out there? Because they don't do it. It's not common up here. worse yeah do they go after humans out there because they don't do it it's not coming up here it's not common but when it happens like it's it's definitely detrimental like you're not getting away with a couple scratches like well yeah if you're in a cave with one you're boned but that's what i mean so like uh but no yeah uh i just i love the fact we were talking about this too, because I live in a very touristy area. We live right by Glacier National Park, which is a big park, like bucket list park in the United States. And so we do get people from all over.

And sometimes like the locals complain about, you know, the tourists. And, and we were talking about it and I was just like but can you imagine what it's not what it's like to not live around this kind of nature like living in a city growing up in a city like not knowing that like this kind of nature abounds because yeah there's some tourist stuff that happens that we're like, like, how did you get here from there? Like, there was a lady who bought bear spray and then proceeded to spray her children down with bear spray. Did she think it was bear repellent? Yes.

So, like, mosquito spray. Outstanding. They had to, like, they had to hurt the fucking kids and it's gonna be like super uh you know yeah it's bad if you've ever like been around bear spray it's like straight up

assaulting your children like she could have been charged with like fucking some kind of like assault yeah and i'm sure i'm sure there was a yes but also like it happens because people aren't raised around nature like they're literally people that have no idea what it's like um and then being from here and being like oh that's like you just you you don't even it doesn't even register that somebody wouldn't know that if you if you happen

to be uh scrolling on tiktok and now that we're talking about it i'm sure it will come up um people taking selfies with uh bison oh yeah yeah yeah you ever want to see some dummies get messed up watch them oh my god close to the close i heard of bison and just get utterly demolished and i've said it before on the podcast i'm not afraid of any animals but i know when to give somebody some room he's definitely the guy that you want to give room to yep um it's the same thing like when i lived in alaska moose like everybody's like oh moose moose are aggressive they are awful are mean yep they are not nice critters to just like hang out with like yeah so my kids were on the school bus one time and they literally had

to go down to the next stop because there was a moose at their bus stop so they couldn't let the kids off like they just can't so you have to go to the next bus stop so they can let the kids off because the moose will just charge anything and anybody and they're just super aggressive and people don't realize so yeah no but i love because they're hug shaped they're hug shaped so and i was saying it uh like mountain lions and cougars they're actually small cats but bigger so their bone structure and their muscle structure is the same structure as house cats. But they're just bigger and more feral and the strongest thing in, like, North America. So, like, you look at them, you're like, oh, look at the little bitty kitty.

No, no, they will mess you up. But, again, it's not common. Like, they don't hunt humans grizzlies might black bears are dumb raccoon bears um but um you know there's still things you don't mess with on purpose yeah i'm way more way more afraid of a cat than i am of a bear like honestly a black bear except for well except for cocaine Yeah. Did you see that? Did you watch that? That was such a dumb... Sorry, that was a bad movie?

That was a great movie. I know. It was so bad, but it was so good at the same time. Elizabeth Banks. Oh, so dumb. I have a hard time assuming some of the dumb, dumb stuff. Yeah, I didn't know Elizabeth Banks is the one who directed it, but that was based on a true story.

Do you hate reality? Yeah, no, I, no, I watched some of the, I read some of the Wikipedia stuff on it. I was like,

Oh, that's interesting. But, uh, speaking of, has someone seen it? I got a quick, uh,

since I know you lived in Alaska for a certain. Yep. Has, has, has she seen it or the next motion? I know I she seen it northern exposure i no i have seen it but i haven't seen enough of it to get like more than maybe a couple episodes and it wasn't a thing yeah it's like it's like late 80s early 90s shows yeah and it's like one of the few like really really popular shows that isn't on like streaming service today for new generations to find it.

That's very frustrating as a fan of the show. I'm not even sure I know it. Yeah. It's on a ton of pirating sites. You can watch it. I think it's so old it's even on a website that once something's 30 years old, the intellectual properties

go away to some extent. You can stream it for free. Most masters. I don't want to have a scant book. it's like the intellectual properties go away to some extent so you can stream it for free most masters most masters female what about the littlest hobo have you guys ever heard of that I think I've heard of it I can't put anything to it it was about a dog that traveled around and helped solve

mysteries and crimes and stuff it was a Canadian show oh that's why we never heard okay so if you want insight and i'm going to let this into all of the crew listening um we talk about letter kenny and nickelback and all of these like canadian cultural shows i saw nickelback live just saying amazing i don't mean to brag yeah but littlest hobo is true Canadian, like, iconic culture. And it's because Letterkenny is kidding. Trailer Park Boys is, like, joking.

Littlest Hobo thought it was real. And he would travel. And this dog would go to all of these little tiny Canadian towns. And you would meet what we recognize as Canadian stereotypes. And it's fantastic. Everybody's wearing denim. You're meeting the Canadian rednecks that are up in Timmins and stuff like that. You're meeting all of these.

Anyway, when you say Northern Exposure, I thought of that because it is that style of show that once it went off the air, it went away. It went into syndication on the Christian television network and nobody else picked it up. You can't find it on any streaming sites, but it remains a

Canadian classic. That brought up so many things. One, kaiju did you ever watch kaiju uh-huh i hate that pbs okay yeah so that's a canadian show too yeah it is so that is my exposure to canadian cartoons everybody hates kou. Little whiny baby with their parents just giving to every whim. Not a great reflection of Canadian culture.

Glad to get your take on Caillou because I couldn't stand him either. I don't know what was going on with PBS but I was like, bro, we gotta get some different programming. Let's get Thomas the train on here. Yeah. We banned Caillou in the house and we banned uh cocomelon no cocomelon allowed up here oh yeah yeah yeah i do remember that yeah cocomelon and then so you're talking about go ahead nope i was just gonna complain about

cocomelon so you have a point. I don't. No, you were talking about Canadian stereotypes. You're talking about the Canadian tuxedo with all the denim. Also, can I get your take on... Oh my gosh. Oh, I just lost it.

It was like totally there, now it's totally gone. Aw. It'll come back. Let's just lost it. It was like totally there, not totally gone. Aw. It'll come back. Let's just keep going. Joey, did you ever watch the show Due South? I see it. When you brought up Northern Exposure, I thought you were talking about Due South.

Yeah, Due South. So that brings me up to Mounties. Are all Canadian police officers Mounties? No. The Mounties are all Canadian police officers, Mounties. Or is that like, uh, the Mounties are the Royal Canadian mounted police. Um, I have to do this without getting political.

Um, but they are essentially just the, um, federal form of government. Um, who, I don't even know how to describe them. They might even be similar to the MPs.

Like, would you say that they're military police? Like if you had to compare the two, like that's what they act as. Um, so like right now in Ontario, um, the integrity commissioner has challenged our premier who would be,

I think like your governor. Uh, and because the governor controls the provincial police, the RCMP is going to step in and take over. So they would be like federal police. I feel like they're kind of like our National Guard. So they're not really like MPs where they're like the military. So military police is over the military unit.

Okay, no, unit okay you're right because we have we have mps guard yeah so our national guard is like federally controlled so if there's like let's say a riot in chicago like you can use the national guard that's a better comparison riot yeah over like and i think I'm getting that right. I know they're controlled by state, but they're overseen nationally. So, yeah. America's kind of weird that way.

Yeah, I think that's a better description. Scantz would know that better than me. Yeah, he would. But, yeah. The RCMP is... They do wear the red things. They are the RCMP Royal Canadian Mounted, so they RCMP is... They do wear the red things. They are the RCMP Royal Canadian Mounted, so they do ride their horses.

And they should be relatively feared in most scenarios. If they show up, then you know stuff's gone sideways. Well, and that's why I feel like they're our National Guard. If you have to call the National Guard out, you know shit's just not right.

Yeah. Something's not right. Yeah. Something went sideways and. Yeah. Yeah. They would take over where, you know, provincial and municipal can't. Right.

Got you. Yeah. And also do South sucked. Yeah. I was going to, I was going to, uh, park it back to that real quick. Like, I want to say that might've been my first experience to like Canadian lore culture. Like yeah.

American allies, an American, an Americanized version of it. Yeah. So like, I was like, Oh look, I understand Canada now as like a six year old.

Did you ever watch, did you ever watch Kung Fu? The legend continues. No, I've heard of it. No. With David Carradine. Okay. I feel like I should have. Yeah. Slightly before my No. I've heard of it. No? With David Carradine? I feel like I should have.

That was slightly before my time. I think it was late 70s, right? No, that's the original Kung Fu. Kung Fu The Legend Continues was in the 80s and 90s. Okay, okay. I think it was on

I think I saw syndicated episodes but I didn't really sit down and watch one. I just wasn't interested. I was of that era for The Legend Continues but it wasn't my thing i i was of that era for the legend continues but i just wasn't like it wasn't my thing but that was filmed in canada so there's actually a lot of okay in uh pornography in that show as well but i know that it was bigger in the u.s than it was up here

because it was a u.s show no i remember it being a. I just wasn't, not my thing. All right. I think I'm ready for something here. Okay. Yeah. All right. Do you like science? Do you like violence?

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That would have been. Wow. No, I wanted to, I wanted to sneak that up. Me and Nate have been working on that for a little bit. And then I was just like, like, what do I do? Cause you know, like between us, between us three and our 200 listeners, it's not really about monetary value at this point, but it would be really cool to say we have obsidian

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just anything to get a hair more exposure for our podcast, I'm happy with. All right. I think that the next thing we're going to do is over and under and rated. Yes. Perfect. I apologize to anyone's questions we didn't get to.

We had a lot of welding questions. A lot of welding questions. It sounded the same. We're going to put them into here. Okay. I was like, only because Big Eddie sent anything in. Did Big Eddie send anything in?

No, I don't think. There was a Big Eddie. Oh, yeah. Have you ever bought any welding supplies from Big Eddie? I have not. I've hit Big Eddie up for info. Like, yeah, he's a Miller guy. I am totally, that's what we run at work is Miller Welders, but I have not bought anything from Big Eddie yet. He's not in my district. Ah, he's not your rep. He's not your real rep. Yep. Otherwise, I would

buy the shit out of everything. So I can share one little story. A little story from Pounders is I'm like, I already knew, like, personally, like, I met in person Big Eddie and Big Matt Sesney were both, you know, welled by profession or, like, as a secondary part of their job.

And, you know, once I knew Melissa was a welder, too, like, it was kind of funny that, like, you know, once I knew Melissa was a welder too, like it was kind of funny that like, you know, there were three welders in the crew that like all met at like the same time. It was very well. So that was kind of cool to see. So I do want to get one more, one more question before we get to underrated real quick.

Favorite army story. Do you have a, do you have like a, a 92nd or less army story that you just, it either means something to you or just makes you laugh every time you think of it? Um, yeah, no. So, uh, when we moved into Iraq, uh, it was our, like our deployment to Iraq, we moved in and I was new to the unit. And I had been about 20, 30 people while we were in Germany that I was going to be like moving out with. We got to Germany. Excuse me, we got to Kuwait. And they're like, Oh, no, no, no, no, you're gonna be rolling out with this other platoon. So like, everybody, anybody who had met, i didn't know and so the army is just like no you'll be fine so i just rolled out with some guys that they were they were in my unit but at the time i had no idea who they were and it was just it was so indicative of like the army and and what we do

there so that was great i ended up having a great time great crew it was your crew before your crew yeah yeah it was a pre-crew um should i explain the rules of overrated or underrated um no i i think i've heard of it so i think i'll be okay we've all been drinking so we should probably hear okay we should hear the pickleback version of the unpaid yeah okay so essentially we've got a list of it looks like about 10 uh things selected for you i think we'll only select six uh and they are selected just for you. You have to decide if they are overrated or underrated. And weirdly, do you know how hard it is to not say you have to decide if they are unpaid or underrated? Like, do you know how hard

it is to not do that every time? I feel like we should do that every time. It's like a new game. We'll just take overrated, underrated, and make it unpaid underrated. Unpaid. I do like that. Actually, yeah. You might have spent some wheels there. Yeah. But essentially, you have to decide.

You can't ride the line. You can only ride one horse with one ass. You have your hands up. No, I was just going to ask that. Could I ride more than one horse with one ass? Just the one. Okay. All right, let's go.

I've got the three, and I hope you don't hate them. All right, unpaid or underrated? Ska music. Oh, underrated? Ska music. Oh, underrated. Underrated. Ska music is, it just, it makes you happy and angry all at the same time. It attacks social issues and has horns. It is all of that. Mighty Mighty Boss tones.

I can go on for days. ska is definitely underrated or on and which one is yeah underrated unpaid and underrated yeah underrated okay go unpaid essentially means overrated but like this is our podcast. We're going to do this. Yeah, I love it. I'm in. I'm in. Let's do it. Just an entire canonical swerve in the middle of our podcast with a Weldicorn. Let's do it. Oh, I'm in. All right.

Unpaid or underrated, Pippi Longstocking. Oh, unpaid. Fuck that bitch. Just because you have freckles and red hair does not mean you can fly around and have a talking horse or whatever she did. That was years of trauma.

Oh, I'm so happy I could bring that up. Thank you. Yeah. Baby got me started. Have you seen what she did as an adult, though? The girl that played her as a kid? Was she a cartoon?

No, what did she do? She There was a woman, she's like a 45-year-old, 50-year-old woman now. She had a sex tape come out 10 years ago, I think. Yeah.

So that was interesting watching. It was like, oh, that's not... That's... Yeah, that was... Keith, you just made that way more interesting. Like, way more interesting. I do think the most interesting thing is Keith telling the entire world

he watched that sex tape. Yeah. It's a thing. If anyone in the discussion says they don't watch porn every now and then, they're full of shit. But not Pippi Longstocking's porn. Well, she's like 50 fucking years old. It wasn't like she was... No.

Hey, hey, hey. Keith. Big Keith. Just don't fuck off. He can't judge you why is he judging you i'm not oh i'm not judging i'm just laughing just kidding yeah i'm just i'm just here for no the utter silliness i love it that is like the perfect ending to that question i'm gonna get roasted for my my celebrity point yes i love it all right unpaid or underrated yellowstone the tv show fucking unpaid like i get it it's super cool i haven't watched all of it um but i i also feel like living out here in montana like bro we don't blow shit up like i don't know i guess i get i don't even know like i don't have words i get the old west vibe of it but also like it's not quite like that not quite i call it the cowboy sopranos okay yeah no okay i have watched every episode and i every time i watch it i they just turn to

my wife i go this show's so fucking dramatic just like nothing can just happen like nothing nobody could just like walk to the store and buy something. Something has to happen all of the time in that show. And it's just overwhelming. Dallas, the iconic, melodramatic TV show that was on in the maybe 80s, maybe? I think JR got shot in like 87. But yeah, it is just the northern Dallas from what I can gather. But I love it. So I watch every episode. But yeah, I haven't watched it love it. So I watch every episode. But yeah, I haven't watched it. Okay. I've watched

every episode. It is so fun to watch, but at no point am I like, yeah, let's go to Montana to do that. Yeah. So is Game of Thrones. I don't feel like I'm in a hurry to get into that world either. But yeah, it does draw a lot of people up here. It does.

The spinoffs are good too, I feel. And then they get get into that world either. It does draw a lot of people up here. It does. The spinoffs are good too, I feel. And then they get mauled by Bison when they come up there and act stupid. Good. Alright, that's my three. Alright, I will go ahead and dive right in on mine.

Hopefully my internet does good enough that I don't keep cutting out. Big Melissa, we're going to go with unpaid or underrated Mark Wahlberg. Did you say Marky Mark Wahlberg? Oh. I did. I did. That dude is like, he is so underrated.

I mean, oh, all the things. All the things. Like, yeah. That's all. Underrated. Does he make your backbone slide? Uh, yep. Yep. Yep.

I mean. what did you Marky Mark with his pants down the grown man that prays at like four in the morning there's nothing wrong with that man I'm putting it out there right now if he would power lift

then he would be on point and we would all be in love with him the other guys was a great movie actually so good then he would be on point and we would all be in love with him. The Other Guys was a great movie. Actually. It was so good. What did you think about the movie? Was it Fear?

Where he played the psycho, possessive boyfriend? That was one of his first, right? Yeah. That didn't turn you off to being crazy? For him being crazy, that is. Stalking equals love, so no. Hashtag stalking

equals love. Only when Marky Mark is involved. I mean, yeah, if your stalker looks like Marky Mark, then no, he's just in love. It's fine. You're fine. It's like that series that series on netflix you have you guys seen that series on netflix i haven't i haven't watched the most recent season

but i've watched like the first three i think it is but i haven't watched the one where he goes to like england or whatever yeah no hashtag love that's that guy's just hardcore in love. It's fine. But that's a running joke between me and my friends. And now, 200 plus crew members. I know, right? Bring it, crew. Tell me that's not love. I dare you.

All right. All right. So my second one, I'm going to go with robotic welding. Overrated or underrated? Or unpaid and underrated it is. Okay, so it is underrated. So a lot of welders are afraid that robotic welding are going to take their job. And one, no, it isn't.

You need a welder to program it. Robotic welding is not to the point where it's like AI, where it can decide for itself, the rate of travel, the direction of travel, the angle of the work angle. Um, it cannot decide, uh, how hot the temperatures have to be set on the actual like welder itself. The, um, I mean the wire feed speed, it cannot detect all that. It has to be set by a welder itself, the, I mean, the wire feed speed, it cannot detect all that. It has to be set by a welder. And so it has to be a welder that knows how to weld. Robotic welding has made me a better welder. I run a Cobot, which is a collaborative robot. And if I didn't know how to weld, I have to tell that robot exactly which way to attack it, how to get at it, how hard. Like, if I didn't know how to weld, I wouldn't be able to transmit that information to the robot. So you have to know how to weld.

It's not taking welders jobs. It's taking the boring shit out of welders lives. I get really fired up because a lot of people are just like, oh, it's taking the boring shit out of welders lives oh yeah i get really fired up because a lot of people are just like oh it's gonna come take our jobs no with the workforce declining the way it is and skilled welders not being available the way they used to be um it is just going to help us as americans manufacture more products in America where we can contribute to our own economy. So, yeah, no, totally, totally underrated. Nice. I love that. I love that in-depth answer for sure.

I think a lot of people that asked, like a couple people asked that similar question to that. So it was kind of nice to get your perspective on that. So I got a few more to pick from, but I think I'm going to narrow my sights on this one. So your last one for the unpaid and underrated game will be Montana Max.

Montana Max. I'm not really familiar with Montana Max. I'm not either, so let's just I googled it and it looks like a restaurant or something. I don't know. So let's move. No, not up there. Maybe it was something.

I could forget it. Let's go. I don't. Yeah, maybe it's the lottery or something. I'm honestly not sure. So let's go with Jazzercise instead. Fucking underrated. Have you ever done that?

I did it in Alaska. It was on accident. Don't get me wrong. This was not a life choice. There was a strength and training class that was offered by my college. And because I had extra credits available, because my GI Bill, it was a whole thing. I took the strength and training class. It turned out to be

jazzercise. That shit's hard. It's hard. It's really fun. Is it basically like a class which is like one of those

90-minute or 60 kind of classes where you just like do cardio mixed with like some lifting stuff or is it all like is it like more of a dance thing because the jazz yeah so it's kind of like zumba okay so that makes more sense yeah my wife did zumba for a long time so yeah so it's more like zumba where it's like yeah like it's Zumba was a thing but the precursor to Zumba was Jazzercise and they used to have like Jazzercise um like locations like kind of like curves where it was like mostly women and you would go in and you know there was a but uh yeah you have to learn the routines and like it's really hard. I had no idea. And I ended up falling in love with it.

I joined the local jazzercise club. Like it was great. Nice. Now, is that the one that blew up in the eighties? Right. Like, or was that something like different? Were there little leotards and stuff? Oh yeah.

Leotards, leg warmers. Okay. Cause there's a show on, I can't think of the name of the show, but there's a show with this. The central theme is that. I can't think of it. It's an Apple TV show where... Yes! I've seen it. She

created Jazzercise, basically. I just can't think of what... I gotta watch it. I don't have Apple anymore. I almost started watching that, too, actually. Yeah, I can't think of the name of it though. Fit something? No, I'm looking it up right now because I see the ad for it

every time, but I haven't watched it yet because I've been watching... It's weird. I caught up on Ted Lasso. I struggle watching it because the main character has an eating disorder and it's close home to me so it's hard for me to watch that sometimes it's like oh it like opens a can of worms every time like she indulges in that behavior so uh but yeah jazzercise

very healthy so physical it's called yeah physical yeah so it it's good like it might it's like it's in your wheelhouse so it's it's it's a comedy drama kind of thing. Yeah. It's decent. But it's definitely like Jazzercise. Jazzercise was so good. It was so much fun. And then, of course, most of the ladies had been there since 1980-whatever when it came out. So they had a good 10, 20 years on me.

And so I was like the young chick. It was great. It was fun. Well, we have some good news for you. You did pass underrated. Yes! Unpaid and underrated. Unpaid and underrated.

You passed our game that I can't remember the name of. So that was worth all the marbles, and you did great. And we're going to hand it over to you. We're going to hand you the reins for some guest questions. Ask the host as you see fit. That's great. So real quick, first thing, what did you think of the last Masonomics episode? Death, go for it, dishonor.

She got us. She got us on her own sex. Death, go for a dishonor. She got us. She got us on her own sex. That's awesome. We literally screwed up our general topics. No, you didn't.

Nobody screwed up anything. That's my first question. That's awesome. What did you think of the last best about the podcast? I really enjoyed them talking about their gym. Like they have like a, whatever it was,

it was like 10,000 square foot gym. I enjoyed them talking about their gym. Like that was crazy. And all like the power lifting equipment and the strongman equipment. I'm not, I mean, I know their brand and everything. I don't think I have anything from them,

but I was really cool. You know, I'll probably, you know, go out of my way to like look at their website and, you know, maybe buy something now just cause they're kind of in the family. So,

uh, overall, if I had to pick, if I had to, if I had to put a number on it, we'll go ahead and give it five out of five JDs. Um, I actually enjoyed interestingly having two guests at the same time who are

clearly in tune. And, um, I do enjoy how, um, that's out of the element of uh the other hosts and but like it was just so fun and like you know when she didn't know something she would ask him and then but they'd like it just was really it was really fun to hear so i'm gonna go ahead and give it a five i know it's the highest rating i've ever given anything but we're going five jd power associates on this one right right um yeah i totally dig it i really really had a good time listening to it and honestly like the last part where

where she brought up that uh women were like oh I don't want to look like you. And her response was like, good, because you can't. Because you won't. You won't. I love that, yep. My gosh, like her owning it. It took me two years to get here. Right, like her owning her like physique

and just, yeah, the way they talk to each other, they were partners. Yeah, definitely way they talk to each other, they were partners. Yeah, definitely for me, I would have to go, yeah, five, five JDs all day. So yeah, I really enjoyed the episode. her before she had a bunch of their stuff like early on i used to watch her a lot when i first started outlifting um so it's kind of nice that it kind of came full circle for me all right and so so the next thing i came up with this little game now here we go it's totally totally unique, never been done before. It's called Either Or. And it is not just because my 15 and 17 year old pointed out that it is not would you rather. It is not the game. It is not the game. Would you rather? I had to set them straight yesterday. I made this up all on my own.

I had to set them straight yesterday. I made this up all on my own. But it is either or with druthers. So you guys get to decide either or. I will give you the category and then you get to druther it out. Is this one by one or we both answer each one? So there's going to be two for both of you and then one for each of you. And then the final one goes back to both of you. So I will let you know if it's both or either, either or. So this is for both of you, both of you, pancakes or waffles.

Pancakes, protein pancakes in particular. With real maple syrup. Because you're from Canada. And there is like a whole black, like, what is it? A black market. Yeah, there is. But no, they'll have artificial maple syrup, which is maple-flavored corn syrup.

It's insane. That's not tree blood. I need my tree blood on my Klondike pancakes. There's a whole, like, maple syrup mafia. There is. So out of those, if I'm Cherry,

if I'm Shoehorn, out of those two, I'm going to go with pancakes, because I... So my reason for that is pancakes are okay when i think of a waffle now i only think of like continental hotel and that means oh yeah traveling and probably like outside of it being on a vacation i'm traveling for work and i'm unhappy for traveling at work uh so i'll go pancakes for that but like french toast is better than both by like a thousand percent. But since I didn't get to pick that one,

I'll go pancakes because pancakes can be pretty good. No ride in the line. French toast is a million percent. All right. Yeah. Now that pancakes. Have you ever had a Stroop and waffle? I don't think so.

Okay. So Stroop waffles are, um, they're Costco's got them. So they're little dried cookie looking things. Okay. They're in the shape of waffles. And the idea is that they're very sweet.

They're very flaky. But if you put them on your coffee in the morning, they get hot and steamed and they're amazing. So if you ever see a Stroopwafel out in the world, go ahead and try it with your morning coffee. It might change your life. And they're a Dutch thing. So I do remember from the Lift Hardly Big Z classic that Big Jen was specifically looking for some place with waffles.

Because the waffles are little cup holders for the syrup. And that made me so happy. Yes. I love that so much. So yeah, but hearkening back to episode 256, it did come up that French toast was an option over pancakes or waffles. So that's like a little back there too there too it's an option but it's not the lowest effort option right like uh yeah i don't know i make some shit involved yeah french

sausage no but yeah yeah yeah for sure that's your druthers so the next one either or a t-rex if you could be one okay this is mind you you are this thing uh t-rex or a velociraptor is this for both of us yeah both of you t-rex or velociraptor okay you're up you're up first this time. I guess T-Rex because I can work in a team when I need to, but I prefer working alone a thousand percent of the time. I can excel in a team effort

or a team atmosphere, but if I am by myself, I'm based all up Jurassic Park, where the T-Rex is by himself and the Velociraptor is working prides and packs, if you will. I would rather be by myself than be in a group.

T-Rex is fucking short and shit. I guess technically you might be able to bench more, though, because if your lockout is just that three-inch range of motion, I could probably bench like four thousand pounds as a t-rex so yeah t-rex 100 no question um i would say velociraptor just because i'm actually a small dude and it's easier to like be fast and nimble i used to i used to be very agile and uh so I would say Velociraptor for that reason. Sweet.

Good answers. I love it. All right. This is where we get specific. Big Keith, this is for you. Yep. All right. Ready? So you got either home gym with a ton of room and all the equipment, but you get no friends, no music, and it's in a shed.

All I'm like mostly squat videos that like in a shed, you're not a basement dweller anymore. You're out that or a public gym you broke like you broke them look at the binary run that's that's hard because like there's so many ways like there's so many caveats i could be like well i'll just take the whole right and go to the commercial gym like once a month and get my camaraderie that way where i'll just but like if it's like if it's cut and dry 100 one or 100 of the other either or i'd have to go with the uh the the hermit aspect and give up my lifting community and i still see people at powerlifting meets and i could still be like because instagram is so like i could still just like, cause Instagram is so like, I could still just like,

I've got like so many group chats and shit and like, just like friends, like, like so many different like circles of friends online that like, it would suck to lose out on what I like pride myself on having in the basement. But commercial gyms are fucking garbage. People are garbage.

99% of the people that go to commercial gyms are pieces of shit. And 1% that I'm going to miss out on that already come to my house. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't think I i could train and also i just have to play the selfish card like i i'm i'm not gonna drive for four or five hours at work and then come home and then drive another half hour to go to the gym fuck that i'm i will work out by myself and just you know live vicariously through my phone and like have my living community that way i love it i love it respect it's a very passionate very passionate answer in my house the that's a hard one that's really hard though because you're making me

i don't i don't wait for machines the machines wait for me right that's the best part of the home gym but also like that was a good answer actually i love it very good that was really that was like the hardest question i think i've ever been asked for like because it's like i still don't agree with either well yeah well that's the point right you know um it was funny because you talked about public gyms being trash so i train in a public gym and like it's hilarious because uh tanner and tommy were talking about all the trash things about public gyms like all the shittiest aspects and i swear like my gym hits every single one like but there there is a sense of pride in training in such a shitty gym like there's a sense of pride where i'm just like yeah but also i'm making gains in the worst possible conditions so like it's uh it's it's fun to hear your like i know how much of a gym enthusiast

like home gym enthusiast you are. So it's really fun to hear your perspective as well. Knowing that I train in like the shittiest public gym. The only good thing is like everybody knows it. So like the only other people that train there are like 80 year old men and women. It's, it's fine.

It's fine. All right. Big Joey. This one is for you. Hit me. Oh. All right. Big Joey, this one is for you. Hit me. All right. So, you get to choose between

cigars, Canadian, excuse me, Cuban only, or Jaeger, never to ask what's in a can again so you can do straight cigars

or straight Jaeger what are we doing do you mean Jaeger I'm confused so I have to choose between Cuban cigars and what Jaeger

but like you can what? Jaeger. Jaeger. But like you can only drink Jaeger. So like your Jaeger sponsorship, your Jaeger lifting team, and you never get to ask what's in a can again. So it's like Jaeger, Jaeger.

Or Cuban cigars. I'm going with Jaeger. I hate Cuban cigars. That was an easy choice. Oh, damn it. I think I have that back. Damn it.

I tried so hard. So Canadian cigars. If you haven't said Canadian. I'll do that one again. Okay. Is that what it is? If you have Canadian or Dominican cigars, that might've been a harder choice because I do love Jaeger.

But interesting point. I don't have an addictive personality. So I can give up cigars at any time. I have during the summer. I'll have one a day, two a day, never more than two a day. But then I can give it up for weeks on end. Jager, I can't keep in the house because I will drink every single drop. Damn it.

Yeah, choosing between those two, it's going to be Jagger over Cuban cigars. But if it was Jagger over Dominican cigars and I could only have one or the other for the rest of my life, that's a harder decision. Okay. Well, I'm coming back at you the next time i'm on i'm definitely coming or i'll come after you in the discord it's fine i'm gonna figure this out no i'll i'll help i'll help you out here i'll help you out here if it was between my favorite cigar which is the black lotus dominion cigar, which is a Dominican wrap, or Jager, I'd probably choose the cigar

because I could give up the cigar faster than I could give up Jager. Jager will ruin my life. Cigars won't. So I think that that's... Damn it. Okay. I think that... Yeah, I'll direct that question a little better or a little differently but absolutely i would take those cigars over the

jaeger before i would take because yeah i love jaeger i love jaeger so much i i buy lap i buy black licorice so that i don't drink Jaeger all the time. I would drink. Yeah. I knew I had something with the Jaeger just because of the lifting team. But I didn't know how to pit it against cigars. So I think that's where I failed on that one. I would drink non-alcoholic Jager all day.

All day. Maybe I should have. You're making that easy. Yeah. Okay, cool. So the last one. Keith has a point. He's got his finger up. I have a quick question for us.

Do we think that we've said jaeger more on this episode than they said gauge on last night's episode oh i can make that happen yeah i was gonna say i'm gonna say jaeger more than once yeah jaeger or jaeger is the same word. I think we've said it up to 50 times. No, I actually happen to love that a whole lot. Okay, so my last either or for my very special game

that is not Would You Rather. Either the host from the sister podcast whose name begins with t or the other host from the sister podcast whose name begins with t and just in general like was there a you know like put a scenario with it oh okay so either uh oh gosh i missed that one because i don't like pitting our our sisters against each other unless it's like in a funny

manner i think that actually hold on no no i have insight into this i think i think i see what's happening who do you think is the other host? Exactly. That was the point. But either pick the better host, pick the better either host. Like, the point is that they're who's the other host. So, yes, Joey. Who's the other host so yes joey who's the who's the other host like yeah when you when you hear that when you hear one starts with the t and others are the t and one's the other one um who's the other one i'm gonna go with so how do you pick well i'm gonna go with tyler

um you know i miss him great dude his wife showed me how to lift atlas stones you've never listened to an episode um so i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with that one that's the one the direction i'm gonna go because i've listened to the the last ones i listened i listened to the back catalog so i know who tyler is sure he did well i got technically ty Tyler likes more of my posts than the other two hosts. So let's say, which host should leave?

What? I'm just saying, which host is no longer there? Like, the host of the other team? Well, Tommy already left. Tommy moved to Crew Falls. He's not even in Everdeen anymore. I was just saying. Like, yeah. So Tyler

would fit. When you mention both hosts, when you say both their names at the same time, which one do you say first? That might be indicative of... Oh, no. That's the thing. Is it Tommy and Tanner or Tanner and Tommy?

Well, I would go alphabetical order Tanner or Tanner and Tommy? Well, I would go in alphabetic order and say Tanner and Tommy. Yeah. I've definitely butchered it and said I've had I love it. I love it. My laugh.

My laugh? You froze, so I just had to fill some space to fill some space i'll pick me over both of them that's all i know i'm gonna pick melissa over both of us yeah i know i don't want to there's i don't want to have any more uh drama between the sister podcast if we don't have to. No, I'm definitely going to ride the line until we stop talking about it. But no,

that was a good question. Oh, what the fuck? Alright, so my mission is accomplished. Uh-oh. Is there more pickleback on the floor? Now, Mela made this sign that says, Strunk, if you can see it

it's in and out she hung it above me thinking this will show up on their podcast but I have everything blurred you can't see shit behind me except maybe the the candle so yeah so I was like no let's hang this flag

this flag behind me and you just can't see anything because i have everything blurred well what is it flag flag flag i know it's flag i'm from canada i don't say flag but we all apparently say things funny yeah it's true me too i say y'all um y'all is pretty common yeah isn't it yeah i'd say it is uh mostly for the southern states not really a northern thing there's like yin's and but y'all it's creeping in it's all it's all over now it's because like texas moved all over it's when you when you watch if you watch yellowstone uh they have a uh a texas character and one of the running jokes is that nobody can understand her so if you happen to watch it i think her name is skier yeah yeah if you get a chance to watch it, I think her name is skier. Yeah. Yeah. If you get a chance to watch it,

the way she says things like she says bar instead of bear and everybody gets all weird about it. Let me know your feelings on that. Because like, I've never heard that accent out of Texas, but I'm also not from Texas. So there's parts maybe I don't know about. I think rip even said she was like maybe West Texas.

I think he, he even like derived that she was from like even like a subset the subsect of success would you say she's from the old Western out in the old Western town of El Paso she is that that's me so I'm actually from el paso i know you mentioned it earlier and that so that song stupidly that song is in my workout playlist yeah he goes hard he goes hard that's like the first outlaw country like entirely just telling stories of people getting shot and getting drunk and doing drugs marty robbins right yes i was just gonna say that there's actually a pool in el paso so like our

public pools are named after like local celebrities i guess whatever um people who have done stuff but there's marty robbins pool oh yeah there is that's fantastic yeah there is yeah because we're in tex But, yeah. All right. Is there anything else we want to cover? Just that I think you called her Skeeter, and it's Teeter. Teeter? It's not Skeeter?

It's Teeter. Oh, well. Like, Teeter. I got mosquitoes on the mind. You got the Arnold, the Arnold best friend on the cartoon show. Arnold. Remember his name is Skeeter. Oh, yeah, they did say that.

They did say that on last week's episode. That's the first time I that's that's the first time I thought about the TV show Doug in like 20 years. And I just made me chuckle. Doug and Skeeter. Yeah. Geez. Yeah. Is that where that came in? It's subconscious.

It's in there. It's a good hearken. It's a good hearken it's a good hearken but also that's just what i call mosquitoes some days damn skeeters because i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say mosquitoes like a nightmare oh my god that would take forever yeah i saved literal seconds by just saying skeeters i'm gonna cash those in someday oh and this is why this is why it's such a good time at the lift car live easy classic like this is what happened and honestly at the zoo that night i didn't even i still like you know you still kind of don't know anybody i was still kind of on my own um i really didn't drink the way i should have so like uh i'm so looking forward to next year

we do this again it's gonna be it's gonna be amazing i can't wait to have you it's one of those things where i kept seeing you and i was going like, I don't know that person. But everybody was like, well, it's Melissa. And I'm like, okay, great. Like, I need more backstory. But also. Yeah. And then you suddenly joined the Discord and I'm going like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, no. I regret not talking to that person the entire time. And I did. I joined the Discord and like like keith advises you should totally just pay attention and watch for like seven days yeah like just just listen just read shit like don't because like i interjected at a certain point on like day two and like oh yeah yeah i shouldn't have done that. It's fine. It's fine now.

Like I get it. But like, I also should have just read shit for about seven days. Cause yeah, it did not go over. Well, even two days, like the,

just the way we cycle through our inside jokes and that kind of stuff, like give yourself a day or two, if you join the discord. Yeah, no. It was the morning after I joined. I was super excited and I threw some shit out there and then it was just like, no! And I was like, alright, cool, my bad. My bad.

No, and I totally knew. Everyone's got an opinion in there for sure. We all do. Yeah, I totally knew I did it. We don't do that here. If it was anything, it was just one of those things. We don't do that here if it was anything it was just one of those we don't do that here and like oh no we're not doing that okay cool my bad like i i'm good enough that i kind of stayed quiet the most unserious discord in the discord history oh so

good so good i love it so much like i don't I can't leave my notifications on. I did in the beginning. That's a bad idea. All day. It was just like ping, ping, ping. Bad idea. I have all social media alerts blocked, including Discord. I can't. It's too much. Buddy, I would delete

the phone call app if I had the damn choice. If it was just so that nobody could ever call. Yeah. Notifications give me anxiety. Well, are you ready? Are you guys ready to bring it in?

Bring it on downtown? I think it's worth, it's worth noting that no matter how much Nate edits out of this, there's no way we didn't hit a, a time elapsed PR because we're creeping up on like eight, seven minutes. It'll be three hours from when we were supposed to start so it was right nobody's gonna listen to this this is probably gonna be a solid two hour 40 minutes or something so like my goal was just to get like a two two hour one

minute episode and i think we suppressed that by at least 40 minutes tonight i had to i think i had to text my wife and go i'm at out of beer. Can you bring me one? It's great. Let's wrap it up real quick, guys. Let's bring it in for a landing because I think I can taste my piss right now. Weird.

That's a weird sentence. It's overflowing. I have to go. Whatever. Joey took a break like 40 minutes ago oh my god yeah and actually yeah that was that was bad yeah i'm like looking i keep looking for like a bottle that i can piss in and oh my god there's nothing nothing big enough to hold the rest of the thing there's nothing big enough to contain it all like no i i can keep you on my air like you guys guys can come with me. You ever take a chip out of porcelain, stand it back so far.

Like it was anyway, you can find us at unpaid and underrated podcast or the website, unpaid intern podcast.com. Check out our sponsors, massonomics and going forward, hyped us.com. Hopefully where can we find you guys? I am Big Keith.

You can find me on Instagram at KeithHenryKids73. Go follow my orange gym at the No Wine Cellar. Do everyone a favor. Do us a favor and go rate us and review us on Insta,

on iTunes, and Spotify, please, so we can get those numbers up. And we'll start reading some Apple reviews if we actually get some new ones. And Melissa, where can we find you?

Yeah, so we are on the road to 100. 10. We're on the road to 10. 10? We're on the road to 10? I think we have over 10, but not many. Do we? All right. So we're on the road to 50. So unpaid and underrated. I told you where you can find me earlier. I am at Weldicorn Everything.

Big Melissa Weldicorn on the Discord. underrated uh i told you where you can find me earlier i am at weldicorn everything big weldicorn or big melissa's weldicorn on the discord so come find me uh and um you know what uh we were gonna have big mad on this weekend but if he doesn't stop correcting my fucking math in the discord might have to have a word or two anyway you're uh you're you an athlete, not a mathlete. For sure. And he won the meme contest, one of the categories, about two and a half years ago. So I

think that guy passed his prime. It's fine. Alright, guys. Well, go ahead and tune in next week. Until then, we'll see you next Tuesday.