Unpaid And Underrated - 018 : Who is Shylo Farmer?

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Dave. They dive right into great topics like the logistics of directing a meet, slappin' da bass, stalkers and live action Disney films. Links Follw The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @thedave_31 (https://www.instagram.com/thedave_31/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Dave.

and welcome back to episode 81 of the unpaid and underrated podcast we are a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith i'm joined as always by my buddy here, Big Joey. Toodaloo. And our special guest this week is one of the Davids. Yeah. Hell yeah, brother. Well, boys, let's go dive right into it. What are we drinking this week? Anything good? I'm alternating between cough syrup and Keats.

Nice. It's one or the other right now. What about you, Big Dave? You got anything over there? Just water for me. I'm pretty boring today. That's not a bad idea. I'm going a little water myself.

A little liquid death sparkling water. Joey's favorite. I saw it at the store today. I was like, ah, it is a pretty tasty one. And after drinking as much as I did last week, I did not want to drink it tonight. So, yeah, a little sparkling water tonight. A little liquid liquid death sparkling water i do have one of those in my cooler waiting for me nice i have a i have an rpe 10 deadlift tomorrow as well as an entire work shift and my kids first day at school that time so i was like yeah we're not we're not going to go too crazy on

any keats tonight normally when we record uh I have a couple leading up to the podcast because I, like, spread them out throughout the day. It's like if I'm off during the day, like, I'll have one at, like, 2 p.m. And then I'll have one at, like, 4 p.m. And I'll spread them out. And today I was just like, nothing, nothing until I'm recording. So that's the trick to just be so naturally free and easy when you're on the episode is just to already

have three beers deep by 8 o'clock. Yeah. Yeah. And now I'm going to be all boring because I'm sober and sick. Yeah, I apologize to the listeners if I don't sound like me. I can turn on the Will or net voice

we could do it in that voice for a little bit too there we go get sound like you're being interviewed by lego batman um oh yeah it's just me and dave just going what's that fan was that family guy went to right when when peter was sick and him and joe did the deep voices back and forth oh i don't think i saw that one okay yeah and it was just like like going back and forth like they're detectives i knew you were coming i told you i was coming anyways what what are you wearing what do you what shirt you wearing anything cool me oh man i'm pretty boring i showered after the gym and i'm uh no massonomics gear for me tonight i'm wearing a old apf national shirt hey there you go it's still uh lifting related so

you know that's that's right in our room so i'm i'm wearing my uh a barbell rescue shirt uh no one's familiar with it it's a uh it's a barbell cleaning company it's like a brush specifically for cleaning barbells uh they're actually like tool to clean a bar oh that's awesome i've been part of part of the reason i'm wearing it is i don't want to kind of uh be like guilt one of the hosts in aberdeen that owns a gym to you know to buy a couple for the gym because he was talking the other day about how he went to that you know he's always he made some authentic comment just about how like there's you know he's a gym full of chalky barbells and i'm like i don't know man i've been cleaning barbells with just wire brushes regular you know did like four different kind of brushes as a home gym guy and uh this beats the hell out of anything else i've had uh but i

had had the one on amazon a couple years ago like the one that only goes like 180 where it's just like uh you just kind of pitch in your palm and you go and that was okay but this is like double that and it's i mean yeah this one if anybody's unfamiliar this one clicks around uh and you end up kind of stroking the the barbell with this thing but um so so keith you do you have the new like the barbell for the the new one right uh so the new release was just more like color inserts i think like like uh he released like a colorway and i was giving him shit because like if you had orange i'd buy one for sure but uh i ended up buying one i i bought one off the actual like owner of the company like the manufacturer guy uh at home gym con last year because he was i was because he

actually recognized me we were shooting shit for a while and i was just just like, you know, I, I don't like change. I'm like, I'm kind of, I'm setting my ways. And then he like, you know, showed it to me, told me his whole story.

And I was like, you know, just, okay, let's give it a shot. And I was kind of pessimistic about it and got it home a couple of weeks later. And this was a really good purchase.

Yeah. Okay, cool. Cause yeah, I, mine's in the mail. So I'm waiting for it. And just with putting meats and stuff on it's the

bars are always covered in chalk afterwards so hopefully i've been thinking of getting one but again after shipping and duties and exchange i just bought the i bought the airwave um mitch hooper mouth guard because um now that i'm dead lifting heavy again for the first time in a couple months i've realized i'm clenching my jaw. So I was like, okay. I had a hockey one a long time ago, but I hated it because it was just like, it was gummy.

I said, okay, let's, I'll try the airwave because a bunch of guys in the discord said they liked it. And it was $40. I think I want to say $40 or $30 American, $15 in shipping. Then I paid $30 American, $15 in shipping. Then I paid another $20, $28 in duties. So this thing's pertinent over a hundred dollar mouth guard. That's crazy.

I might just honestly take somebody's advice and just start shipping shit to Keith. And then like once every two or three weeks, I'm just like going to work out at Keith's gym, taking one of my days off and making the trip down. Cause it's like two hours. I think Cessney is closer though. I'm just like going to work out at Keith's gym, taking one of my days off and making the trip down. Cause it's like two hours. We can do that. I think Cessney is closer though. Cessney is in, it's not Niagara Falls.

It's not Buffalo. It's like a suburb kind of Buffalo he lives in, but yeah, he's gotta be even closer, but yeah, that's, that's great. Especially with you saying you were in Buffalo or were you in Buffalo or Niagara Falls? Uh,

I ended up in Niagara and then in one of those suburbs you're talking about because Trader Joe's is in, there's no Trader Joe's in Niagara Falls. So I had to drive for half an hour to get there. And of course, it starts raining and my kids refusing to use the potty and I'm like, I think we should just turn around and go home. My wife's like,

no, we're going to Trader Joe's. I was like, did you map that out? She's like, no. And I was like, that's another half an hour away. And of course course right next to it's a target so when you when you first hop the border there's a target 15 minutes from the border 15 mini weeks and um it's just ravaged because that's where all the canadians go but i didn't know there was one right next to the trader joe's half an hour away that was clearly better because that's not tourists aren't willing to go that far sometimes okay so we should have done that but yeah and then you weren't even in your in your house or home you were four hours the opposite direction yeah but that's like it was funny because i think by the time you respond by the time someone has

said something in the discord that night like i was home because like most of my days like i will be two two hours from home and then i'll still be home by five o'clock, you know, typically not, not the next two weeks because I will be out of town pretty much, you know, Monday through Friday for two following weeks. But, uh, like my, my, like day to day, I drove two hours, worked for four hours, drove two hours back and pretty much that was my day. So it wasn't too bad. Oh, I'm, I'm wearing a deadlift till I'm dead shirt. It says, fuck this.

I'm going to deadlift. Nice. There we go. It says, fuck this, I'm going to deadlift. Nice. There we go. It's spot on for me. That wasn't the vulgar one you were wearing in Grant's video, though, right? I remember that one that you wore in Grant's video in Aberdeen was super vulgar at the diner that you were self-conscious about. I don't know what you're talking about. I was going to ask you, which one was that?

Because I've heard so much about this shirt and I didn't get to see it. It's actually Grant. I don't think Grant posted the video, did he? Okay. So, fine. I'll finally tell the story. So, I was under the impression we were just going to grab something to eat and go to the gym. Okay.

And then everybody's like, no, we're going to this place. and then everybody's like no we're going to this place and we end up pulling into this fancy schmancy like like tapa's diner or whatever that does brunches but i hadn't realized it until i noticed a family of kids walk in and they probably right from church or something like that like they were all dappered right up and on the back of my shirt it says lift heavy and eat ass oh that's not even that bad and attributes the quote attributes the quote to gandhi no it's not that bad but when you're suddenly surrounded by like it's not my city i don't know who these people are I'm just now offensive in their city so

at some point I was like this is the worst and the dumb part is I don't think at any point it occurred to me to flip it inside out and I think when somebody mentioned it I was like no that's not gonna work I'll get deodorant all over it but like that would have been easier than just trying to sit with my back to the wall for the entire time we're there

no this fuck this I'm going to deadlift. At least the F is a little like it looks blurry. Gotcha. But yeah, no, that's, that's the shirt. That's the story. Grant pulls out his camera and goes, why are you hiding that shirt? Is there something you don't want people to see? And I just hear me yelping at the end of the restaurant.

No, shut up, man. And just storm off. Well, somebody was wearing the same shirt, I think, at the zoo the night before. No, that wasn't me. I had a different shirt. I wonder. It might have been. Maybe it was John.

Oh, John has one like that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, he has one like that. I like mine because it's attributed to Gandhi. Because that's, you know, how many different people can I piss off in seven letters or seven words? But no. So now you all know the story. Did anyone take advantage of the 50 percent off in honor of the 50,000 Masonomics followers this week?

No, just me. I did not. I'm the one who made the I'm the one who made the big I made the big all go. No show order right before it happened. not i'm the one who made the i'm the one who made the big i made the big all go don't show uh order right before it happened was that because you wanted to you know to support them monetarily or you just didn't catch that there was the sale coming up for the team isn't it yeah it's it's actually for the spotters and loaders for our next meet that's coming up here so that makes sense that makes sense yeah yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't have risked waiting till the sale because everything like you know unless you're a you know medium or a large guy

you're a shit out of luck after about five minutes i think i had four different shirts in my cart uh and by the time i went to go check out two of them that were sold out already god damn it and it was the ones i was like more leaning towards liking but yeah it is what it is so it's good for them they're going to be able to purge a lot of their old stock and optimistically get a lot of new shit in the next six months you know i can't imagine they just massive purge and then like just you know do like one shirt every couple months i'm assuming there's going to be something big coming up i'd hope but we'll see i i think i put the pocket t in my cart twice. I was like, that's it. I'm finally pulling the trigger on this.

And then I just never did. Cause honestly, I have so many shirts. I have so many shirts. It's getting out of hand. And people are trying to give me free shirts. And I'm just like, I just, I genuinely don't need it. You only got so much room. Yeah.

I'm cutting the sleeves off a couple of them to try and get like more use. Cause sometimes when you get a shirt, it's not cut for guys like us so i've got the big like bulky sleeves or the shoulders hanging off so i'm just like yeah just cut them right off um i did i did get in on um a big mike a big mike van wicks pre-order because i really wanted to support that dude a little bit and I have 50 Masanomic shirts and none of his and I was like, alright if I'm going to do something, I'll pull that in. So, that one's also a little

offensive, but I don't much care. Well, speaking of offensive shirts that I would had popped up in the Discord today, something I shared another smaller Instagram page called Maskcast I think, uh, another smaller Instagram page called mass cast. I think it is. And they,

they, they, they were really pushing, uh, one of the recent posts where it had like 10 different of their shirts and they were all just like corny ripoffs of like other parody shirts. Like it was a parody of a parody shirt almost. Then they were all like just somewhat kind of corny,

but I mean, they're doing their own thing, I guess, but, uh, it definitely seemed a little hinky. Oh, like just somewhat kind of corny but i mean they're doing their own thing i guess but uh it definitely seemed a little kinky so there was some there was some good chatter about that in the discord i saw that yeah that was that was pretty uh pretty similar to a few shirts and a beer logo yeah for sure like we can't have ours these guys are just printing them like money i don't know like something you print a lot of yeah i'm sure they have to be getting a letter

or something eventually yeah i think so i think they only have like 3 000 followers versus 50 000 followers so you know it's gonna take a while for them to actually like get on someone's radar but true you know was it uh imitation is the greatest uh form of flattery or something like that yeah so i guess that they don't massonomics doing something right i guess yeah so what about this past weekend uh depending on when this comes out it might be like a week and a half or two weeks uh you know behind but we just we're just getting back from labor day you know i just you know it's gonna be a short week so i most think most of us had Monday off and I did have to Google this. It does look like there is a Canadian labor day also. It's just, you know,

got that extra you in the spelling. So, and is it like, is it the premise the same just like honor, you know, like, I'm assuming it's the same labor day. It's not like it's yes it's gotta be i don't know yes it's it's to honor workers we have three days technically in canada that we recognize which is the the day of national mourning which is april 28th for workers who were killed or injured on the job um i used to go to a lot of those my father was a very big part of getting that established up here, actually. It's not a holiday, though. May 1st is called May Day.

Some people should know that. Some people don't. But that is actually also a labor-friendly day. And then you have Labor Day. The city that I'm in, in particular, was very, very active as far as unions and workers rights. And because I saw steel mills, like I said, last year or last week, right? One of the cooler things we had here was something called the Knights of Labor. and localized here so if you ever get a chance to google them i don't have a ton of history on them i learned about them in school but um i wouldn't be able to tell you anything other than like like weird shady like chalk markings is how you found them stuff like that like they were they were boots to the ground labor activists so labor union or labor days a bit of a big deal at least in our household at least it was i used to do the parade every year because my father was running it so we would

go down and do that every year then he retired and he didn't do that anymore what about you dave what what would you and the family get into this weekend oh let's see what did we do uh we went fishing um ate with the family the in-laws it's um at the wife's parents and yeah that's about it pretty pretty low-key stuck around town nice yeah and that we're i'm big on that uh we think we did do a we had one of our really good friends had a baby shower friday we went to um and just kind of i just i don't think i left the house for three days after that was the best thing ever um yes nothing nothing beats a staycation for me is all let's talk a little bit of socializing and every now and then but i'll i'll take a staycation over being busy any day of the week

because i got enough stuff to keep me busy just with life we had um we had a bunch of our friends over on uh on labor day itself on the actual holiday did a barbecue the kids all got together and did kid things in in the backyard and on the trampoline and stuff. So then it was just like getting ready for Orange's school. Like it was as soon as Labor Day was done, it was like head down, gear down for his first day of school. So that's like legit, like that's like first grade, first day of school? Junior kindergarten. Okay. Today was his orientation.

I had it all messed up. Tomorrow is his actual first day but I'll be at work so I've got to somehow I'm going to miss him leaving but I want to be home when he comes home or if I have to go get him which is also likely but anyway

it is hot it is in my office right now like it is hot. It is. In my office right now. Like, it is. Yeah, I'm going to turn my ceiling fan off. Why? It's speaking of it, it's so hot. It's like face melt. My ceiling fan is on.

And my air conditioning is on. Last few days here, it's been crazy, like 90s. And now all of a sudden it's like dropped into the 70s. And it's like, okay. We had a bit of rain today.'s like dropped into the 70s and it's like okay we had a bit of rain today and i'm hoping that kind of cuts whatever's going on but it all it did was bring out mosquitoes it didn't really do anything yes we have mosquitoes in canada yeah it was uh i think it's been 90 here the last three days uh it's been miserable outside i was on a ladder half of today putting up up some light fixtures outside, just getting this.

I couldn't put enough suntan lotion on to save my life, honestly. It was brutal. So I'm trying to, but I think it is supposed to have like a 20 degree drop tonight, hopefully. So I'm optimistic tomorrow won't be as bad. Nice night to open the windows.

Now, Zoom username court, or during court. Did you watch that? we don't have to talk about it i just thought it was hysterical it was worth you know if yeah go ahead describe it because like i do have like a a weird story so there's like a there's like a 30 second clip maybe going around uh i posted it in our i i screen grabbed it posted in the discord but it's it's all over instagram so it's just like uh you know the video itself is a it you know just picture like a zoom call and it's for court of some sorts i don't know if there's like because there's a judge so i'm not really sure what the premise is of court uh but one of the guys uh the judge asked what's what one particular person's name was and he you know he said it's

like nathan johnson or whatever it was and then he's like you sure it's not butt fucker 3000 like your username says and then like it pans to the guy's face and he just like was like shitting bricks and he was like you moron he kicked him out of the zoom call and everything or made him go to the waiting room and then just it was just the funniest thing ever and like it half of what made it funny was just the guys like just the way the clip was edited how it just zooms into the guy's face as he's like realizing that whatever stupid username he put in as a joke probably a year ago. And it was just the first time that he'd been on Zoom ever since, you know, because he was all like, oh, I didn't do it. I didn't do it.

Like clearly you did it at some point. So that was just hysterical. But you've done that to us. Oh, yeah. No, I did. I think you hadaron likes feet or something as your one yeah yeah because that was uh because i log into zoom on my my phone for the for the massonomics podcast and then half half that is just like changing your username to tip you know

to to to poke poke poke at other guys in there uh j it was just still left on as like big mofo loves feet or something to that extent and then uh he always changes his uh yeah something negative towards me so yeah when um my apple representative first came into the store um we were just exchanging contacts and i had forgotten that i had had set my contact to Big Joey because I was, I think, at the Arnold or something. And I was just like, that's how I was giving it to people. And it's funny because this is a work relationship and she's there. And then one of the one of the area sales managers for one of our products is there. She goes, what does Big Joey mean?

And this guy used to lift. So he knew right away. And he was like, that's it. That So he knew right away. And he was like, that's it. That's your name forever now. And she's like, Oh, I'm leaving that too.

I'm just like, it's a little embarrassing. Cause this is work, but like, I'm pretty sure I can deadlift your total. So not that embarrassed. Nice. It's no,

but fuck our 3000 though. No, but fucker 3000 it's just like i i want to say like last week we said uh what what was the word that we said 100 times last week i can't remember at this point we were making well they said gauge a million times that we said something last week's episode yeah yeah we said yeah yeah and. So let's see if we can say butt fucker as many times to make that no, probably not a great idea. Just get that R rating on, on podcasts on podcast.com or whatever website controls,

manipulates podcasts. As a followup, interestingly, I was discussing it with my wife and she doesn't really hear the difference between Jaeger and Jaeger. I do because you guys pointed it out but now I've been trying to make a conscious decision to say it the way you guys think I should.

It feels weird, doesn't it? No. I have an exercise you could do about crossing your arms and the longer you have it crossed to the wrong way, the more comfortable it gets. So it will get comfortable. I just think it's silly. It's Jaeger with an A,

not an E. You guys know Jaeger? Well, we want to get to one of our long-standing segments here, where we rate last week's episode of the Mastodonomics Podcast. Sure do. All right. What did you think about it, Joey? Did you get a chance to listen this week i have not yeah we're we are recording early so i'm not

surprised by that because it's only wednesday and monday being the holiday i normally record driving to and from work or listen to the recording driving to and from work and i think being off monday tuesday wednesday takes out three of the lifting the days and i think i was also off like monday tuesday last week so i'm maybe 25 minutes in and some days i don't want to listen to a podcast when i'm driving sometimes i want death metal or something to keep my ass awake um but what i have heard is all of the stuff i saw live and because i was there five jd power associates what about you dave did you have a chance to listen to it yet uh i'm probably about three fourths all the way through i uh was listening to it at work but i was out on on my route. And about that time is when I realized I got a flat tire and I had a situation to take care of.

That's no good. So, but yeah, what I've heard was good. So definitely give it a five there. With your flat tire, were you able to fix that by getting strong, staying strong and using your strength? Any of those fit into there? It was a little bit more of a little bit of all three put together. That's the spirit. So Keith, how do you rate?

Yeah, I, I did listen to it all. I think my favorite part was when they were honestly like when they were talking about the gauge and the strength and his answer being the overhead squat. And I was going to try to get in and like do an overhead squat before we did recorded but you know i just didn't have like i want to see if i can even do like the bar and if i can do the bar like can i do 65 like like i have no clue like like just my body like can i even keep my hands above my head while squatting to depth and like do you clean and press it for like does it matter

how it gets like you don't have to necessarily i mean it's got it's got to be something you can overhead press right like like that like so you literally got to like unrack it press it and then just squat or again is that the gist of it i've never done one or even really seen it but i'm just trying to like start with a broom handle yeah like like just try and try and get them oh are you okay whatever you got there then. Like definitely, definitely a unfamiliar movement for me. Yeah. I,

when I was first working out, I used to do duck jumps and that's, that's essentially an overhead squat, but in the whole, you then just use your ankles and, and like your calves and stuff to just jump. So that you could increase ankle mobility and stuff like that. I clearly don't do that now

because I have shit squat mobility. Sorry there, Keith. Your rating? Overall, there were some lulls. There were some boring spots, but for the most part, we're going to give it a 5 out of 5 this week for the old

JDs. 5 out of 5. We are riding the line this week, guys. Alright. though. That old JDs. Five out of five. We are, we are riding the line this week, guys. All right. I want to tell you about our friends at Massanomics LLC. Your first question is going to be, are those guys incorporated? Well, let me tell you,

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That's our friends at Massanomics.com. One might call them our sisters. One might. Should we get our guest on the horn? Yeah, he's been in the waiting room once he... He was technically already in, but he had the username

ButtFucker3000, so we had to kick him out for a little bit, but now he's paid his penance, so so we can get him back in put him in the waiting room dave is that you well time big dave hey look at me getting this wrong already you're gonna be like who you talking to man who you talking to well welcome to the podcast uh Thank you for being on one of the Dave's. One of the many. It made sense. It made sense. Now, I think we first met not in a very, I won't say like in a very informal way.

I think I ran up to you and jammed my phone in your face the moment you weren't announcing. So the moment you stepped back to have something to eat and drink, I come flooding up to you at the lift, hard, live easy. And I yell that you're working hard or hardly working. And you were like, who the is this guy? As soon as I was done recording, I was like, oh, it's Joey. I'm from there. And then you kind of clued in, but like, I kind of felt bad about that ever since that,

like you were so busy all day. And I was just like the one moment he gets, I'm going to go take it from him. But you handled that with grace, poison grace. It's what I do. So, I guess with that awkward silence, I'm going to ask the first question. So what brought you to massonomics oh honestly i came across the uh the shirts apparel and stuff like that um seen it for a while here and there and that's what you know sucked me in and uh i i didn't get involved in a discord till quite a bit later so probably oh i think probably the first order was probably back in maybe 2021 2020 kind of around there

around that covet area i remember that because uh yeah yeah that would have been the year when like that no no uh no uh expo at the arnold and all that fun stuff so well i now i wonder when when did the discord start uh shit it was if only we had a timeline for this type of thing well you should be able to because i know i was like i was i was at least four or five months late to it. I think it would have been like the spring of 21. And I think I was like a fall of 21. If I had to put money in. Because you should be able to go to like Proof. Let's see.

Big Joey joined in August 2021. Okay. And I was like number 60 something. So it was probably spring of 2021. Good call there. Yeah. Now, did you know them from... Because like were you... it was probably a spring of 2021 good call there yeah now did you know them from uh because like

were you did guys from the mass economics gym go and travel to any of your meets prior to you becoming like crew and doing all that because they seem like they had known you i mean that's they reached out to you specifically to do the their meet so i'm assuming there had to be some kind of connection there prior to right yeah it was it was a few years later once we finally crossed paths. Actually, it was me and Tanner actually did the same meet in Rapid City a couple years ago in the summer. And I come in, you know, to go to weigh-ins and I'm wearing a bench heavy shirt. And it's like, hey. And so that's when we made the connection and stuff. and it's like hey and so that's when we got you know made the connection and stuff but uh even prior to us meeting i know i reached out to them about coming up to uh fargo for the north

dakota open which was going to be that following uh fall so in a couple months and so we were able to you know touch base and you know face to face at that meet so did you know who tanner was when you first saw him no i didn't make the connection until so he told he actually told us about that on the podcast yeah yeah he uh he uh you know pointed out and i pointed at him and then we kind of you know just started talking and then yeah that's how it that's how we met so i wasn't like i was like wasn't like i was like hey that's the guy i was like yeah i don't i don't know who this big guy is but no but we're talking so yeah i remember him telling the story that he was at a meet and somebody was wearing one of their shirts and he was just like trying to like get you to clue in like i'm that guy yeah yeah because that's what it was it was

like oh yeah okay we've been emailing each other that was you know it was it was finally to put the face to the name kind of thing so well that's what we all did last month or two months ago yeah and speaking of names and faces and all that dave uh where can we find you on instagram and uh all that uh yeah on instagram it's uh the dave 31 now do you have a heart do you do you actually manage your other two uh powerlifting uh On Instagram, it's thedave31. Now, do you actually manage your other two powerlifting Instagram profiles? Does your wife help out with one of those? Because as someone who has permissions to three different profiles, I know how much of a pain in the ass that can be sometimes to keep everything straight. Well, no.

I run the XPC one and then the Stensland powerlifting one, which a funny story about the Stensland power lifting one that used to be, it was the USPA North Dakota page. And before we, you know, we did the split and left, left USPA. So, but yeah, they were trying to make a stink and like, Oh, you can't take that page. I'm like, well, I created it. So I'm just going to change it to Stensland power lifting. So. powerlifting so yeah that's fair yeah i think i remember deep talking to you about that when you created the other page the xpc and xpc when i remember you talking to me about that a little bit so and now it's good now it's kind of stinks because you you kind of want to like merge them together but like yeah i know because you probably have 500 followers on one that don't

follow the other and vice versa so like it's just kind of like, you know, I can see how that'd be frustrating to keep them separate or not being able to conjoin them, essentially. Yeah. That it is. Now, do you prefer Dave or David, though? I think we've gone back and forth a couple times. I go by both, no matter. Yeah, depends on the audience. David.

David. We're going to call you David just to make everything a little more annoying for all of our listeners. David. So same thing we ask everybody. What is, and especially this week is a good week to ask this because everything's all sold out. What is the one piece of Massanics merch that you wish you hadn't missed out on? Buddy lights.

I know it's going to be a common answer. Cause same bro. That was the, that was, that was initially the shirt that I saw over and over and over. And I'm like, okay, I want that shirt.

And by the time I went to go reach, go, go get it. It was like, Oh yeah. So. So. Yeah. And then Ronnie had to ruin it for all of us. How dare he, who does he think he is?

I feel so bad for that guy when you see him and like everything in the last 10 years, just like, so like, cause I'm assuming it's all from his hips. That's why he's like, literally can't like, he's like wheelchair bound for the most part. And, you know, you see him on his crutches. I did think, well, did you ever go and see the video of him and Arnold training together a few months ago, I think, at the beach out there? That was kind of cool. But it was still like just seeing him have to like, you know, like hobble over the machines. I was like, God, he just destroyed his body over the years.

Yeah, no, it's definitely crazy seeing him like that. You know, I think the first time i saw him was at the olympia and i was i i saw him just you know by himself and i was gonna go up there and like you know say hi to him and then uh about five feet in someone jumps in front of me and they're like oh that's gonna be 40 and i was like what yeah yeah yeah celebrities What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Celebrities. I was like, Oh, okay.

Then $40 to meet a guy. He's right there. I know. Yeah, exactly. I think one of my buddies had a similar thing with, uh, it was Juju.

Juju had a booth where he was charging like X amount of money to be with him. And my friend must've just walked by before they had that set up and was able to picture with him and talk to him for a couple of minutes. And then after that, there was like a line of like a hundred people willing to pay like 30, 30 bucks to talk to him for 10 seconds or something. So he was, he's really happy about that.

He made it his profile picture on Instagram. Yeah. That's crazy. When you see that, like the Olympia, the Arnold and yeah, it's crazy, but people will pay to that 10 seconds to shake a hand,

maybe take a picture. I mean, I don't blame. That guy's got to make – how much money is he making off the other stuff? Some people, if they're there doing that, it's like it's an – I don't know, the extra revenue could be the matter of him paying his mortgage or something. Maybe not necessarily Ronnie, but there are people that are past their prime in any kind of sport and all they have and all these like meet and greets and shit like not

necessarily just bought it but like like i'm thinking more like professional wrestlers yeah it's that's what i was going to bring up yeah professional wrestlers are like that man like they can't work anymore oh yeah they're beat up just being paid for appearances isn't really cutting it so that's like what they do right why? Why wouldn't they? We did have a wrestling question for you from one of the crew. It was, I can't find it right now. If you were a pro wrestler, what would your name and gimmick be?

Oh, man. You know, it's crazy you asked that is because Fargo has a wrestling school. So I have actually kind of teetered on like, well, maybe going from powerlifting to power bombs. I've thought about it. I've actually been asked to show up, but I'm old as shit.

It's one of my biggest regrets is not getting into wrestling school when I was young and had the chance. There was one right down the road from me, but I was just scared and didn't go but like i could have same here same here now i'm like oh man i got lost all the flexibility and fast movement i'm like now i'm just big and slow yeah sting is still doing it yeah he's still going through tables he's taking big bumps he's gotta be 60 like he's like i feel like. He's taking big bumps. He's got to be 60. I feel like most people,

I feel like anyone in our sub-masters, early masters age, everyone we watched wrestling when we were like 12 to 15, they almost all are out of it by now or just like right on the cusp of getting out. Sometimes you can't get out. Yeah. So what's the question there what's the answer

uh you know i was gonna steal something off of like a sergeant slaughter go that kind of route like a drill sergeant military kind of thing yeah i could see that well okay i got a good one here from one of the hosts if we lived in and if we live in an alternate universe where you could only where you couldn't both lift hard and leave easy you can't you can't live hard and live easy you can only do one one or the other huh which which yeah which would you choose and why i think i'd go with the lift hard i love i love lifting that's that's a that's a fair answer like i that yeah and i mean you know i'm not much of a drinker either really um i mean probably the last time i drank was actually at at the lift hard live easy so yeah that's a pretty easy one for me i

definitely choose the lift hard for sure i i think i'd have to go with that if i was on the uh if it was on the if one was on the chopping block you know but if you look at it that way too it's like lifting hard is obvious like it's some sort of physically lifting something the living easy that could be interpreted a million different ways i think you know everyone interprets it as just like the skull drinking some beer but like living easy could just be relaxing but but but still still like i i guess out of those two yeah it'd be harder to give up some kind of lifting than i guess some of my other advices agreed now now speaking of the you had mentioned the lift hard live easy and you had a little drink in that weekend i'm sure that

wasn't your favorite part of the weekend but what do you think was um honestly the whole thing together i mean just because it was such a different meet than we've ever done before um like it was like honestly i really liked the the uh the uh get together at tanner's before the meet just because that was something so different than other other meets that have done that yeah agreed i think we all i think most people that have been here i mean i think everyone enjoyed you know the zoo but i think a lot of us still enjoyed tanners you know or or the lucky handful of us that were in for pounders that night before yeah yeah just just all those like intimate kind of just conversations we were able to have, especially more, like, yeah, I would say the pounders and tanners, because, like, we weren't, everyone at the zoo was exhausted and drinking heavily.

And, like, hey, I don't know. I'm not against that, but it's still, like, I definitely have more fun in a, you know, more intimate setting where there's not music blaring. and so yeah you know honestly i didn't mean with this if the music wasn't so loud that was that was my the only my uh takeaway would be it's like you know maybe keep it down a little longer just uh just from a day of yelling on the microphone to trying to have a conversation you know a couple hours later it's you know a voice is pretty shot by then so yeah my voice was dead by the end of the zoo from what i remember yeah but yeah no i uh definitely that i i liked the um everything that we were able to put together for that meat it was just such a different unique meat than anything else so now and and how much of that was like because i mean you're the meat director but tanner and tommy were more or less

like they did a lot of the like what was the how much what all that they do versus what all that you do i guess they did a lot of the uh on the ground stuff there because they were in aberdeen getting you know like uh they lined up the venue um a lot of like the promo stuff that they did on their end like you know obviously the billboard and the uh pamphlets and stuff like that, which was really cool. And a lot of it was just being on the same page with what we wanted to do with the meet itself. So that really, it was a really good that we, you know, teamed up for that together, being on the same kind of page, what we wanted out of the meet, we wanted it to be a fun, memorable event and i think

that's where we really came together is the fact that it was an event versus oh a powerlifting meet and that's one thing that we've always done with like even our local meets here that we do in fargo is we try and make it a weekend event you know even if we're doing a two-day thing we'll bring a seminar guy in and do stuff like that too so what you're saying is meet directors don't only just uh direct me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you saw that so yeah yeah that's been that's been floating all over i don't know if you wanted to i mean i if you can use as a platform for that if you want but you don't have to and by any means like we we try to keep it silly goose and I know that was kind of a touchy subject and that for all parties involved but feel free if you wanted to elaborate at all not looking to move on oh no I

mean it was one of those things where for us um you know I mean we all made a couple reels and videos you know uh you know kind of poking some fun at some things that were done in the past. But when we left USPA and we're going XPC, we had a lot of people who were like, well, not a lot, but there's a few people locally were like, what are you going to do with XPC? You're never going to succeed. Your meets are going to be nothing, blah, blah, blah. And it was one of those things was like, well, we can't say anything until we have our first xp xpc meet so and that was kind of where we kind of came together with all that kind of stuff like that but um and it was it was a sponsor that helped us out locally with events they came set up a table

provided prizes for some of the events and stuff like that. And that was the extent of what their involvement was. They didn't have anything to do with, you know, organizing or putting a meet on. They definitely weren't anything like with Tommy and Tanner, like their involvement with putting on a meet. It was just, these guys showed up, put up a table, threw some prizes at the lefters at the end of the day, and that was it. So it was one of those things where, you know, they say that they came out and they said that uh all meat directors just show up and

and run the meat that's all they do and it's like well anyone who's ever ran a meat knows how much work's involved so i'm sorry i got a little lost there coughing my brains out the the sponsor said that about you about meat directors, directors? Yeah, it was a local sponsor here in North Dakota. So it wasn't Barefoot Shoes? Oh no, God no. Because you're up there too, right? You're up there near them.

Yeah, they're up in Fargo. Yeah. It was a local sponsor that did the USPA meets with us out of Williston. So. Yeah. All right. Okay. I'm back online now. I'm back. I'm back on track now.

Well, yeah, we don't want to, want to dredge up too much other past drama so we can go in and let's let's let's look at 2024. So what is going to happen to the Lift Hard and Live Easy Classic 2024? I know everything is kind of in motion right now, but what do you picture the meet being? Yeah, so far, I mean, what we've talked about, I know we're looking around the same time frame as this past one. I think the weekends we're looking at are the last two weekends of july which i don't think that's a surprise to anybody i kind of think that's what the consensus was um did reach out to

gino and gino definitely wants to come and announce so that'll be fun um he said basically let it let him know what weekend it is and we're gonna make it work so he'll be there that'll be sick so yeah that's really cool that he's excited to be a part of this too so i i will probably compete in that as well yeah there we go yeah i i've got one coming up in december okay i'll do another one in between but i might even do a strong man if I can gain some weight, but I'm not missing out this year. Yeah. I, I know they,

they mentioned that they might lift Tommy and Tanner too. So that might be something, but it's one of those things where, I mean, with, you know, helping put together a meet and helping organize it and then competing in it, you know,

that's, that's definitely going to take a toll on you. Just get your, get your memes ready of Obama, putting the metal on Obama, And then competing in it, you know, that's definitely going to take a toll on you. Just get your memes ready of Obama putting the medal on Obama. It'll just be Tanner putting it on Tanner. Get them ready, guys. Yep. Get them ready for next year.

Do you think it'll end up being a two-platform meet then? Because I feel like the demand is going to be, like, they're going to have about 200 people that want to do the meet. And we're going to have to cap it at, like, at this point yeah no we are on my end we're already planning to run two platforms you heard it here first folks Tanner and Tommy aren't committing but we're committing but and the thing with that is I'm like you know we could you know three flights on each one that's 90 lifters yeah so i mean i think that should be playing i mean would meet the demand for sure so now would you have you mentioned that you might do something cool obviously i think we're both wrestling fans um would you said you might do something cool like entrances how would that look on two stages um yeah so i'm already

looking at what i would do is i would have one entrance in the middle of both platforms where they would come out that's what i'm in oh yep then that way either you're going to go right or left on which one you are so obviously in the warm-up room would have you know the screens on which side you're going to be uh your warm-up area will be on the left or the right and that's kind of where your staging areas would be so but utilize one big entrance to come out um what i'm looking at is literally trying to recreate something like from the old wcw like nitro entrance with the truss maybe some big some big letters off to the side maybe a little xpc lh le kind of thing um i'm i'm i'm putting it out there now i'm gonna do sandman's interest in intro from ecw okay he came through the crowd and drank like six beers on his way to

there there we go there we go but i do have a question do you think rule 17 would play my introductory music oh we're in hurts of a uh a drummer these days that's actually the the missing link the last couple of years it's always the missing link because you get a good drummer and they're dicks yeah no we we definitely had a little bit of a falling out with our drummer and uh he had some legal issues and it was like okay okay, we're going to go this way. So tell me about Rule 17 or Seventh Seal for whatever reason you got sued. Well, no, we got threatened to be sued. When I moved to Fargo, I played bass in high school and stuff for bands. And there was someone that reached out to me about playing bass

for their band in Fargo and it was basically original metal music the covers that we did were like Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Black Label Society, Dio Pantera and stuff like that so

we went with by the name Seventh Seal And then We did that probably a good two Three years maybe a little longer We actually did do a CD And then Shortly after that We got contacted by

A band that spelled out Seventh Seal we did the number Seventh and Seal And it was some christian rock metal band out of like maryland or something yeah apparently they already had the name or whatever so we ended up uh going through a few different name changes and we finally settled on rule 17, which was a play from a play off of a zombie land. Cause if you've seen the movie, he has like these certain rules that he has to follow to survive. I don't remember the rule 17 though.

I only remember double tap and cardio. It was, it's the one rule he ends up breaking. Don't get attached. Don't be a hero. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, that's fun.

Yeah. Now I'm going to add something into... I feel like you're our seventh bassist to be on the podcast. I feel like that seems like the go-to instrument for the crew to play has been bass.

Unless I misremember, I feel like we've-to instrument for the crew to play has been base. And unless I'm misremembering, I feel like we've had multiple basis. But I want to, as, as I want to get back to the meats and potatoes a little bit of the, this two platform meet real quick. How many, how many combos?

Like I personally feel you'd almost have to have six combos in the back, like six combos. That's the plan. Yeah. Just four or five would just be, be, be short in somebody, you know, that was so. Oh yeah. No, no, no, no. I definitely would. We would definitely have six. We're actually running our, our first this is going to be our test run for a

two platform meet here. The King of the North, which is in April and that's going to be a two platform meet too. We're doing it 45 and 45 on each platform and we'll be doing six combo racks in the warmup room. And then we'll do another Texas on the platform. So perfect. Yeah. They kind of threw us for a loop running the,

the ghost combo at the meet. Cause I think I had, I had like had like you had mentioned you were going to. I mean, it was cool. I loved it. But as I guess someone like I'm actively like shopping for a combo rack. I want to either replace one of my squat stands with a combo rack or my bench press, like my competition bench with a combo rack. But it's just like logistically, I have to do a lot of rearranging and downsizing a little bit more in my workshop to kind of make it fit without making it just be a clusterfuck. But I'm always like on my mind, like anytime I'm at a public gym that actually has, you know, the couple of public gyms I go to actually typically will have combos because I find good ones.

So I'm always like, like, OK, well, I like how the ER feels, but it's so lightweight and I got no way to bolt it down. And I know the Texas, it does have the flanges. You can bolt it down because I wouldn't want to like actually tap con it down. So I've kind of been a combo rack connoisseur as of late, just trying to like feel in and out. So, yeah, I mean, the Ghosts are really nice. They're super heavy as well, but they're also pretty expensive. Yeah, they're like nine grand. heavy as well but they're also pretty expensive yeah they're like nine grand yeah whereas uh texas you can get brand new 3400 maybe yeah that's what i saw so something and then the other also

too is uh is it state of the art and i think i think i think they're up in your area yeah he is near him so the bench that i have is him he's uh his quality is i've seen really good things about it and really bad things about it um okay he you know but i have basically i've done a couple deals with him and i had mixed results so like i don't know that i want to give him three thousand dollars for a combo rack at that point i'd rather give take a shot at tex maybe, Texas Drink System or ER. But I know a lot of people that have his stuff. I've talked to a lot of people, and it's very mixed reviews on his equipment. But I've used his combo a lot.

USPA meets locally. It's just, I don't know. If I'm in a splurge, I kind of want to go with something super fancy. Yeah, we've had no complaints with our Texas. I mean, it's held up. And what was nice with that, too, is when we ordered it, we didn't have to do the one big chunk all at once because there's such a lead time on them.

I think they were out like, oh, maybe eight weeks at the time when we ordered. So it was like half now and then half when it ships. So that was nice not to be, oh, you know 3 400 bucks that's funny like look looking at joy right now i can kind of like i imagine that's how i look like when like he's talking about music or something with the other with the guests for like a couple minutes because i'm like all right i guess i'll i this is everyone has their own own really niche things they really enjoy. Anything like fitness equipment, I could talk about for hours, but I don't want to bore everyone much

longer. It's really also just because the baby just started crying. And I wanted to make sure it wasn't getting picked up on the microphone. No, you're good. So, Katie told me something that kind of took me by surprise. You just got into powerlifting in 2017 2017 i figured that'd be that was that that caught me

off guard that yeah that's like five years ago and you've been a meat director for a couple years now so that's tell us that whole story of first power lifting meat and then transition into a meat director i got into it really late in life compared to most people um which i mean i always lifted heavy training for sports and stuff through high school and i mean i still lifted fairly heavy in college as well but um afterwards it was just kind of like i'm just going through the motions and you know in the gym and stuff like that nothing motivating me to you know lift X amount of weight or nothing. And I went to a local bodybuilding show and with, in conjunction with that, they had a, uh,

a team powerlifting meet that morning of, and I went to that with some friends from the gym and I'm sitting there watching these guys lift and I'm like, okay, this guy looks about my weight, my height. I'm like, I'm like I could I think I could hang with these guys you know with what I lift in the gym and so I go up and uh ask one of the refs you know what's the when's the next meet how do you sign up I'm you know I want to kind of get in on this kind of thing and it was an APF meet and like it was just like pulling teeth to get any information like yeah the refs couldn't even tell me like where do I go to sign up and I'm just like oh okay what is what's the deal well I keep asking asking asking then I find out that their next

meet is going to be at this local high school. Well, I knew the principal of the high school because he used to be in a band with me in high school, in my high school. So I was able to make the connections. Was that, was that fatal? That was fatal. The legendary. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, but yeah, he was the principal. He put me in contact with, uh, with the meet director and i was able to like you know get signed up but it was one of those things where it's like if i wouldn't have just kept being persistent trying to you know i maybe never would have gotten to the sport well and i that is a thing that i know doesn't get talked about a lot and and most of the people listening already know my feelings on it, but gatekeeping and powerlifting,

I have zero patience for it. I have zero patience. But it does seem systemic. When I was looking for my first meet, I was just like, okay, that's it. I want to do something. And then there's nobody out there. There's no mailing list. So you join a federation.

They don't mail out, here's what's coming up. So I ended up doing an unsanctioned meet but i had no clue i had no clue it was unsanctioned or anything i was like it's a meet it's close to me i'm in yeah and then the next one you know it kind of was harder to find but i ended up you know finding some of the gyms around us that do them then finding out the federation later and then like all you can do is watch their instagram and hope that when they post it you're fast enough to get in on it see and that was a big thing that once i got involved with putting on meets that was like okay well i don't want people to go through what i did because you're not going to grow the sport

i'm like you just made it why are you making it hard to sign up? If I ever get involved on a level that's, you know, not just a competitor, which might be in, you know, in my future. Cause sometimes I do that. I just get like hyper-focused on wanting to do things. Um, and that would be one of the first things I would eliminate is like, it shouldn't be a mad rush to sign up. The last meet I sold out or I signed up for sold out in 30 minutes.

There's 60 lifters. And it's like either a, there's not enough going on around that there that's the hunger, by the way, it was $160 signup fee Canadian. Okay. And I'm not even sure there's prizes, but people still paid that.

Like people still paid that because Like people still paid that. That's the hunger that's around here, but also just like the desperation for people to get in on it. So that's, it's a good thing you brought that up because it is something that, you know, we might not talk about enough is the, is it is not the ability to like to push people away from it, but the ability to just make it hard to get in. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's what we've really did. hard to get in yeah yeah and that's what we've really did like and i think we utilized instagram and social media really well just regionally where we're at and so it's been a big part of you know with getting the word out there um people send me messages and questions about meets or this or that or how to sign up or where the next ones are i mean i'm pretty available um on instagram and stuff like that to answer that kind of stuff so well i i don't know how much more um the meat talk you want to do oh i'm here all night i just want to throw it out there and if there's anybody else listening from any other federations um barefoot at xpc being allowed everybody needs to mimic that everybody take that because every meet i've done i have done a wrpf and unsanctioned

shoes are required and i love lifting in bare feet i went and bought barefoot shoes so it's not too big of an issue but if i didn't have to wear shoes i'd feel so much better so i commend you on that yeah and i think honest i think honestly the only ones that allow that is xpc and i want to say rps i'm pretty sure rps i rps is very loose on the rules like that i feel so yeah because i i think that's the other federation that lindsey gray competes in too and i think that was big, other big draw was she found out that she could do barefoot. So she said that about XPC too. Like she was like, yeah,

I'm pretty excited about that. And I think I would be excited about that. I think that that is, you know, if that's how you train, you know, why not? Yeah.

If you can compete that way, do it. Well, I used to always train in bare feet. When I found out you couldn't wear, you couldn't have bare feet at, at a meet. I then started to have to buy shoes and i hated it i hated having to find them having to wear them having to like it was just it wasn't comfortable i spent like 200 trying to just find

the right shoes of course i could have just bought barefoot from the beginning but you know but you don't know what you don't know like you don't i didn't know there was such a thing as barefoot shoes i was buying those crappy rascal ones or trainers from footlocker or whatever right so rascal oh nope swear word we don't like we don't like rascal around here no not after their customer service oh so how does one go from interestingly you said sergeant slaughter and not big boss man that that was enough that was enough that was another idea though how does one go from corrections to fedex to lift meats oh let's see i think i did corrections basically right out of college um got into it with the plans to move over to patrol um i did it and i got into corrections and i got promoted

so fast that it was ridiculous i i was i was i was gonna say like and you were really good at it you know and it was one of those things where, I mean, I was really good at it. I got, you know, awards and, you know, I made captain before I was 30 or something. And it was just one of those things where the job just took so much time from my life. Like the fact of, um, my phone was going off nonstop in the middle of the night on days off, you know, and it was just one of those things where it's like, oh, hey, so-and-so is being competitive. Oh, so-and-so is on suicide watch. And it was just in my position. I was just nonstop there.

Yeah. If I, even if I wasn't there, I was there mentally regardless and always connected. I get it. And so that was a big thing that you know it was really a big strain on like um our marriage and it was just made one of those things decisions and um ended up moving back to fargo and it's just like i took a job with fedex and oh my god i mean it was so much less stress than just so much, you know, just marriage wise, it was the best thing I could have done. So there's some, some days I miss it.

If I was to go back and get involved in it, it would be more online as a instructor position like that versus going back and, you know, working the cells and working the cell blocks and stuff like that so all right so fedex over the prison system got it got it oh god yeah i i love the fact i just go out on my own do my thing and go home yeah i had somebody the other day i think trying to poach me from my job how long you been doing this i was like was like, 10 years in October. And they could do the, are you happy? Yeah. Right. And I was like, probably not, but I was like, with the benefits I get in the RRSP.

And then I just had to make it very clear. The next job I take is not customer facing. The next job I take is me working alone. There you go. That's where it's at, man. And then they were like, Oh,

well, yeah, we have like customer. And I was like, yeah, nope, not interested. Cause you're not gonna, you can't pay me what I make here after benefits at all.

Like I know we're the top paid in my industry. I'm not going to take a pay cut to do the same job. I'm going to take a pay cut to go do something less stressful. Exactly. Yeah. So I hear you on that one. But yeah, I mean, going from that to getting into meat, running meats. So I got into powerlifting like, you know, 2017, whatever it was.

And I did like the local meets here. I did APF and then out West they did USPA. And I went out to and did that uh those meets and just from doing them I I me and my wife got to know the meat directors there and they realized that you know how much you know we like the sport being involved in sport just competing and whatnot and they asked if I would you know want to help out and become a referee. Because there was only so many referees in the area for like Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota. So I went through that process.

And before I could even ref my first meet, I want to say, they ended up stepping down with just random drama with them in the USPA office or whatever no big surprise there who would have guessed i mean huh so dipshit dennison over there so speaking of i i uh i randomly get a phone call from him and he's like well uh everyone said you're the guy that to talk to about running meets in north dakota and i'm like like i haven't even reffed my first meet i know i'm like and so then he's just like well would you want to be the state chair or whatever and i'm like well i don't have any equipment i don't have any of this i don't own a gym i don't and he's just like well

no that's fine there's there's meat directors that you could you know work with that'll come in you know you guys can like organize it and help set it up it's like okay whatever and so we set up our first meet i reached out to al with uh squat to depth and he came up from missouri and he did a meet in fargo and And so that's how we, you know, did our first meet under him. And then we did another one with some people from Montana that came in and did the same thing. And then we realized it was just like, you know, why don't we just, why don't we just cut out the middleman? If we're going to do this, we'll do it ourselves. That way we got more control of how we want to run the meets and what, you know, the direction and vision that we want to do. ourselves that way we got more control of how we want to run the beats and what you know the direction and vision that we want to do and that was kind of all they were

that 2019 ish area kind of and so we slowly just you know bought a combo rack bought some kilos and you know the warm-up stuff was stuff that we used at the gyms and stuff like that. So, and yeah, we went, started out, did our first meet at Metro flex and we outgrew doing them in local gyms because we got so many lifters and such big crowds that we had to move to like event centers, like hockey arenas and stuff. So. That's a good problem to have. Yeah. I mean, that's one of those things i mean we must be doing something right i guess so yeah it sounded like once you make that step it's like

okay well now i gotta buy four combo racks because and you know i need six power bar you know you can't get away with just using the the the public gym squat racks the warm-up room at that point but uh you know it sounded like it kind of naturally progressed pretty quick that just had to be that was just intimidating just being like okay i've done like a meet and i'm maybe gonna be a ref to now i'm like the middleman hosting meets kind of for a couple years and now i'm just going all in like that's crazy um so here's one for you what do you enjoy more competing or directing meets oh actually i really like directing meets it's just one of those things that's it's really satisfying watching the lifters and especially the first time lifters who come out you know come out and

you know hit those prs and give them an opportunity and a place to to do that because there wasn't really that kind of a thing when I was competing. Like they were just such small little, you know, you're in the back corner of some gym somewhere. Whereas now these are, you know, we've grown into like actual big events where, you know, you got people coming from, I mean, States all over the place, you know, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Minnesota. I mean, to what we had last, what, last month, from i mean states all over the place you know north dakota south dakota wisconsin minnesota i mean to what we had last what last month back in july you know what scans came how far to to come to that meet so he's i think he's the only one to come farther than me okay yeah so it's

it's really satisfying just to to have that love for the sport and see lifters come out like that. Was there anybody farther than Skintz or me? I don't think so. I think you and I had to be almost the same. I drove for 21 hours. Yeah, I think if I. I think Lindsay or Dan would have been the next closest, but then they end up not coming. So next furthest anyways.

I know that's it's really cool. Just saying saying and i can't say that i would disagree i think that giving other people the opportunities that maybe i wished i had yeah when i first got into it and i'm not saying you know if anybody from my meets shout out to apex and burlington you guys have treated me amazing you guys are amazing but you know there's always things that like you know that you know i would want to do to make it better for somebody else and you know you got judges and handlers judges and handlers screaming at these people it's their first meet and they're screaming over the cues right like that might be one of the things i do where i'm just like no handlers f off cues are more important like that might be one of the things i do where i'm just like no handlers f off cues are more like that might be one of those things that i do because yeah your judge is there to help you and everything but if you can't hear the cues because they're yelling the same cues

but the ref is the one giving you the lights things like that then like yeah it might be a little different you know and going back to it it's like i want to put on meats that i would have liked to compete in yeah which is kind of a double-edged sword, it's like, I want to put on meets that I would have liked to compete in. Which is kind of a double-edged sword. It's just like, we're putting these on. I'm like, man, I wish I was out there. But how douchey would that look, though? It's like, oh, hey.

But I'm like, I'll never do that. But I've seen meet directors who will do that. And I'm just like, oh, man, that's not a good look. I've seen meet directors who will do that. And I'm just like, oh, man, that's not a good look. Yeah, the couple, you know, for first name basis with a handful of directors out here and none of them will compete at their own meets. They only like like they'll specifically travel to go do other meets just because it's, you know, kind of just goofy. Yeah. And I mean, that's how that's how I met Tanner was I had to travel to rapid city to go to a meet.

So, so out of all the meets you've hosted, uh, what's the most impressive, uh, what's the most impressive lift you have seen, or, you know, you can go male and female if you want,

like, like what are some of the biggest, doesn't have to be the biggest, but just like however you want to ever, you interpret most impressive, uh, lifts that you've seen at meets that you've done. Um, we have a, uh, a, um, a handicap lifter who, who's actually been coming out to a lot

of our meets and he's done probably three or four of our meets and he, um, has a prosthetic arm. And so he, when he deadlifts, he has to use like the harness and stuff, but even just watching him, you know, balance squatting and even benching is pretty impressive. So,

yeah. Was that one arm Turk? No, this was a Devin. He, he, he competed with me at the Arnold the, this past time.

Okay. One arm Turk is a crew member and he does the same stuff. Okay. Yeah. That's really dope to see him. I'm glad you, that was a good answer. All right.

I guess I want to take a shot at some of this stuff too. Yeah. Not just, not just heavy metal here. We already did all this. Like we've, we've powered through this. This has been very informational.

Hey, I love roller coasters too. Oh. And apparently you've got a story on why you don't like the spinny versions. Oh, God. Well, it's not necessarily spinny. It's the little, like, you know, your local county carnival rides that basically sit in place and you just, like, spin it like that. Yeah. Those do not do well for me at all like they just mess with my stomach but um roller coasters big stuff like that oh i can do it all day love it um yeah it's we i think we talked about it last week or

the week before did you know canada has the highest free fall drop roller coaster in north america i did not. Where's that? It's called the Yukon striker at Canada's wonderland here in Vaughn. Um, okay. And the day, the week it opened was the week before my son was born.

And I turned to my wife and I was like, I got to go. She's like, I'm not coming to that in this heat, this pregnant. So I went all the way there by myself. Really? And I rode that thing way there by myself. Really? And I rode that thing a couple of times.

Okay. I ended up finding a buddy who's, I think he was from North Carolina. Yeah. And he was a young kid who I think might've, might've had some, some autism, but he was just like, oh yeah, my mom takes me to all of these. And he had a book and his kids traveling North America just to go on roller coasters. Really? And he was like, when I found out this one was here, I was coming.

And I was like, when I found out this one was here, I was coming. So me and him ended up riding a couple at the same time. Just, you know, because you don't want to be alone all the time on the roller coaster. Yeah. No, we just got our kids into it here. We started them pretty young at like the local carnivals and going on rides and stuff and then just kind of you know progressively went to like bigger and bigger rides and uh we took them to disney a couple years ago and they pretty

much went on everything they could you know know, height wise for them. And then we went back slash year and literally the only ride that they didn't like was the Tower of Terror just because of the drop and stuff like that. But yeah, no, all the other rides, they loved it. Yeah. Orin's already on board. eyes they loved it yeah oran oran's already on board so it was really cool to to you know kind of bring them into that thing because before then it was like that was me and my wife's thing was you know you know going to amusement parks like that's what we did on our honeymoon we went to orlando so well my wife hates rides so getting my son into them benefits me and we we did that too we went to the local uh peach festival because it's the big peach harvest festival and i didn't i forgot there was a midway and i ended up buying way too many

tickets oh the carny games only to see as soon as we get in there uh the drop zone so the one that goes up and then just lets you drop completely shut down surrounded by security people crying ambulance so i was like so we're not going on that one no so i i took him on a couple of the spinny ones but i put him this little dragon roller coaster oh yeah and it's like it's like it has a height limit and maximum okay right and he begged three rides on that there you go and here we are it's hot i had somewhere to be my wife just disappeared i had to use the bathroom and i'm getting frustrated but i'm like i'm not gonna take it away from him until it started raining then it was like okay now we gotta go buddy but he's yeah he's all in

so is there any uh particular reason like any why your wife doesn't like rides there's like just the spinning or just yeah she gets motion sickness she doesn't she has to like eat mints while we drive to like focus on something yeah and if i drive the way i like driving nudge nudge wink wink um she'll get pretty mad at me because it's too whippy and gotcha i enjoy sport mode let's just say yeah because oh man when we i think it was when we were still dating pretty early early on we went to like the local county fair and i wasn't really into rides or anything like that but i was like all right i'm gonna you know try and tough it out because you know she likes rides i can't you know what's out here and i don't know what ride it was but i am probably just pure white in the face and just gripping on for dear life and

it's nothing big it's just some little ride that's spinning around in circles and at one point i think katie looked over at me she's just like are okay? And I'm just like trying to just hold on for dear life. And I'm just like looking down at my shoes. Cause I'm just sick to my stomach. Well, yeah, big rides I can do, but yeah, little spinny rides. Not at all. Like I think when we went back to Disneyland with the kids, the teacup ride, like my daughter was wanting to spin it.

And I'm like, no spinning. I'm like holding it oh yeah yeah when we went on that we took both of them right because um that doesn't really have a height restriction like if you can walk you can go on it and i looked at morgan and she's like don't and like i'm a strong dude and i was like I'm gonna. And what I would do is spin it, but then I would stop it abruptly to spin it the other way. Oh, she could have killed me for doing that to her. She's like, I'm going away now. Like you are loving it. Hey, he's all squished against the back laughing.

She's just like, I hated that. Yeah. The spinning gets me too. I can't do it. Well, if you ever come up, if you ever come up here to go to that roller coaster let me know i'll meet you there like give me like two weeks advance notice uh look for videos of it because what it does um is they take you and um it doesn't fall straight down it has a hump and then it falls actually a little under itself and what they do is they stop you right at the hump so that you're staring down at the ground

seeing what's about to happen but then you actually go underground so at the bottom of this just to make it a little farther you actually go under the ground into a tunnel it's terrifying but like in the best ways yeah sounds like a blast you were talking about one of your first dates with katie was at like the amusement park or whatever right or it's carnival or one of the early ones potentially so that'll segue into the uh you must have a good time because you didn't uh just leave her there you know as i've heard you did one one one lonely sad girl that uh conversation wasn't going well and you left her. I want to hear that story.

Because I don't think your big ass went out the window in the bathroom. So how did that happen? Oh, man. And this is something that literally just bothered me for years afterwards. I still feel bad about it. I'm glad we could bring that up yeah so um it was it was just one of those things where it was it was a girl that you know the only time we've ever been around each other and hanging out was you know

involved drinking so everyone you know well then like we meet up and it's like there's no alcohol involved and it's like who is this person and it was just like okay i don't it was like okay i don't want to be here she probably doesn't want to be here i'm just like okay and we didn't even order nothing like that and as i ended up just like getting up going to the bathroom and leaving i know i'm a horrible person i'm sorry but it's it's yeah it's it was one of those things where it's just like oh my god i probably scarred that poor girls i think i think we all have a handful of things in our life that we just wish we handled a little bit more ethically or just not as douchey so you know

yeah that that would that would be that would be one of them yeah that one's uh i feel like if you said you didn't have those you're when there's something wrong with you if you say you've done nothing wrong your whole life so you're good it means you're lying yeah it means you're lying or you've never been confronted with the consequences of hurting other people so yeah i'm waiting for the karma of that one to catch up because it's probably not going to be good. Yeah, that's the thing about that kind of thing. But otherwise, you might have just beaten karma by doing good things since, right? Now, that wouldn't be who your stalker is, right?

That's where I was going next. Nice. One would think maybe, but no. Oh, my God. This goes back to 2009 20 or 2009 2010 ish i mean i'm working corrections at the time and there was an individual who got picked up um it was being looked at by the fbi and they got picked up and they were in our custody for not very long. The backstory behind this person was he basically defrauded some dude, like said he got her pregnant.

And he was like a local pipeline guy, seasonal worker, came out and was in the area, messed around with her. And she's like, well, I'm pregnant. I need money to, you know, have an abortion. And so he keeps sending her money. Well, she's not pregnant. She's just, you know, seeing dollar signs. And, well, it's, I want to say he was maybe out of indiana or illinois or something like that but he ended up hiring a private detective to look into it because he's like

okay this is getting ridiculous i sent this girl like thirty thousand dollars this doesn't add up yeah and i think it turned into like interstate wire fraud or something like that. So that's why the FBI got involved. And so, you know, she gets picked up for that, gets sent away to federal prison or whatever and whatnot. Well, in the meantime, I somehow must have made some type of an impression because I'm already gone from this area and not even there anymore. I'm working at a whole nother detention facility on the other side of the state. And local, local, you know, officers that work in the area are like, Oh dude, she's like dropping your name left and right.

And I'm like, well, why does that going to help her get out? You know, she gets arrested. What's that going to do? You know, I'm not even there anymore. And it goes on and it turns into, and it's like this one detective that I'm friends with actually reaches out to me and it's like, dude, this, this person made a whole backstory about you and that you guys have a relationship. And I'm like, what? And so guys have a relationship and i'm like what and so then it goes into i'm like what are you talking about he's like oh yeah she said that your real name isn't david it's actually shiloh farmer and i think we've got the title of that podcast

so so she ends up uh you know building this whole backstory of that i was kidnapped when i was like a little kid and the family that raised me wasn't my family they're the ones that actually kidnapped me and she knew me before i was kidnapped and yeah that well we we were in love when we were children and all this kind of yeah i'm like okay and and then she said that i was married to her but the reason no one sees me around anymore is that i was in the hospital in a coma cool yeah and i'm and so these people i'm still like the police officers i'm like i'm still friends with them and they're like yeah we know you're not in a coma you work you know you're working up in you know newtown so and it was just like oh my god this chick is just crazy so anyway she's you know dropping my name left and right saying that we're in a relationship and um

and it's one of those things where i'm like well there's not much i i could legally do because it wasn't you know there wasn't no like physical threat, no physical harm. She's just, you know, back crazy. And so that went on. It was one of those things. Well, there's nothing I can do. I'm like, I ended up calling like South Dakota federal probations. I'm like, hey, you know, this is what's going on with so-and-so.

And they're like, oh, they're not on probation anymore. And I'm like, great. So, yeah. So probably fast forward a few years. I don't, I'm like, okay, must've died down, went away, whatever. And I get contacted by the, one of the defense attorneys at the court where where i worked at um where i used to work and he's like hey just i got he's like you might want to sit down i got some some

news for you and i'm like what oh shit and this chick drops that oh i'm the father of her children and she got in trouble again. Well, and someone's got her kids or whatever. And then it's like, oh, well, why isn't this David guy, Shiloh, paying child support? So I literally had to take a paternity test. Oh, Jesus. So, yeah, it got to that far. But at least the defense attorney knew me.

He knew that, okay, she's crazy or whatever. And they're like, we're not going to make you come here all the way to do it. We can find somewhere in Fargo so you can take the test. Boom, boom. Get this done and over. And so I'm like, please. But imagine having to tell your wife that like oh hey you might want to sit down here

because some random chick thinks that I'm the father of her kids that yeah so so that was a fun conversation yeah we go into all that that's that timeline like when did your wife come into your life versus like what stage of the stalker was

she with you the whole time or was it like she she she was with me yeah because we got married in 2009 and we've been together since uh oh four so something that you guys went through together more so than you having a backstory of yeah yeah that's fucking crazy though that is yeah that is not where i expected that stalker conversation to go that was so elaborate and in-depth wow yeah so it was one of those things where she feared that it's just like okay is she ever going to come to fargo or anything kind of like that and i was just like well i mean you know we you you can definitely you know conceal and carry north dakota so you know we can definitely protect ourselves know, conceal and carry North Dakota. So, you know, we can definitely protect ourselves. But to even add another aspect of that, though, is it didn't even end there.

Like once it was like, all right, I'm done. Stop using my name. The whole everybody knows I'm not involved, yada, yada. And one summer, it was during COVID because it was like when nothing was going on but there was a county fair um in bismarck which is you know a few hours down the interstate and we're like well let's you know take the kids and we take the kids we go do that thing and And we, you know, go to hang out there for a couple hours, eat. And then we come home, come back to Fargo. And a few days later, Katie calls me at work and she's like, hey, there's some police officers that came to the house and they want you to call this detective in Bismarck.

And I'm like, what? And so I'm sitting there thinking like what does this have to deal with and i'm like every possible scenario i'm like why is a detective in bismarck want to talk to me you know at this time i'm working for fedex and i remember a few years back i'm like i did sell a pistol to somebody and so i'm like oh great did somebody use this firearm and you know some kind of you know crime and i'm like great that's so i end up calling talking to the detective he's like oh hey i just wanted to touch base with you um in regards to so-and-so and i was like oh god so it was kind of a relief that it was in regards to this person versus a firearm I sold.

Yeah, for sure. But the backstory was just like, well, we have so-and-so in custody. And when we picked them up, they were under the influence. And her story is that you assaulted her and then injected her with methamphetamines. And I'm like, what? her with uh methamphetamines and i'm like what and so it's like it just gets crazier and crazier and i was just like well he's like well where were you on this date and time and i'm like oh easy i was in fargo i'm on my route like i'm logged in you can see where i'm at gps and all that kind of stuff and so they're like okay yeah we just need to verify it and all this kind of stuff but i'm just like just still using and dropping my name like left and right that's

crazy that's a lot that's a lot it's yeah i mean it's the point so it's like this person i dealt with them back in 2009 2010 when they were in custody for a little bit before we turned them over to the feds and i'm like this is like 2017 2018 when this is it's like seriously like this is getting crazy so so yeah that's my uh my stalker wow that's a lot um so we have this game we like to play. Oh. Well, the joke is Tanner always, when there's a serious story, he just goes, wow, that's crazy. But I actually do have a game I want to play.

This actually is from the founders of this podcast. So they put these all together. You're going to notice a theme. Okay. Which is why Keith is hands off from this one. Rank these meat names.

Oh, these are, these are four potential powerlifting meat names. Okay. And I'll give you all four of them. Then we can repeat them if you need to, but tell me which one do you think is the best okay

alright so we've got the Battle of the Bulge we've got the Shaftmaster Classic we've got Beast Meat and we've got Lift Easy Live Hard Classic I'm gonna go with the last one yeah yeah we thought we would I mean Battle of the Bulge I'm going to go with the last one.

Yeah. Yeah. We thought we would. I mean, battle the bulge. I mean, yeah, yeah.

You know, it's got some potential, but yeah, I'll go with the lift. Yeah. Lift hard. I thought beast meat would be fun because it's right up there with, um,

did you guys see Daniel McKim's video? Oh, last week when he's like, when you live next to a powerlifter? Yeah. Oh, that dude. I didn't know his name. And he's like... This shit's funny. And the powerlifter, of course,

calls his garage gym the dungeon because they all fucking call themselves the dungeon. And then he... I just thought beast meat was funny because everybody's got beast in their name somewhere now. Alright. And then he, I just thought beast meat was funny because everybody's got beast in their name somewhere now. All right. Well, Joey did a game. I want to do a game real quick.

I'm going to do mine real quick. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I was going to do a sponsor. Nope. Oh, yeah. You're sorry.

All right. So big Dave, it's a little combination of has, has he seen it? And then we'll just rank them real quick. If you're assuming you have. So three movies that are all part of some of your work history. So number one, The Green Mile, the Tom Hanks movie, Green Mile. Yeah. Number two, another Tom Hanks. Actually, I didn't even see the theme.

Castaway, Tom Hanks, FedEx. FedEx plays a big part of that one. So we got Corrections, we got FedEx, and then there's not a lot of powerlifting movies out there, so I had to go with West Side vs. The World. So rank those three movies. I'm going to go Green Mile. Number one. Hell yeah. Love that movie.

I'm going to probably go Castaway number two. And I'm going to go go Castaway number two. And I'm going to go three with the West side. Tom Hanks wasn't even in West side. What's the theme here? I'm kidding. Cause the Castaway was a two hour commercial for FedEx. Yeah,

exactly. It was a great movie, but essentially it was a two hour commercial for FedEx. I mean, I mean, well, I mean, the greatest character was a soccer ball.

The most. Yeah. Does anybody remember Tom Hanks' character's name? nope but you all remember Wilson exactly Green Mile like I will actively judge a man who doesn't cry watching that movie it's a good movie

I will literally look at you and be like, what's the matter with you? Who hurt you? Because that movie is so emotional in all aspects. Okay, well, a big announcement was made last week of our second quote-unquote sponsor,

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You know, we really appreciate it. Yeah, I know. I mean, he's helped out a lot with, he's sponsored a lot of our meets that we've done in the past. And I mean, he came through and big time for the massonomics too. Yes. And we're giving away some of those in this big drawing. But I've never seen, I've only seen, sorry, Travis, actually go and offer sponsorships. I've seen him comment on somebody like, oh, we're putting together a meet.

And then you'll see obsidian ammonia and say, Hey, do you need a sponsor? That's cool. Never seen that before, before him. No, no.

Yeah. There's a dude that wants to give back. Right. And that's, you know, that's the, I think the theme of this conversation has been, that's just,

it's, you know, good to give back. So anyway, that's our second sponsor read i'm just gonna today i'm just reading off of websites it works man i can't wait i can't wait to try that dim mac honestly i've got to get through the fireball one and then i think i'll i think i have another nosebleeds to get through but like i don't use it like i used to maybe i'll

save this dim mac for that no that's late. I'll just order another one. Anyway. I guess I'm going to play my ignorance. I've never heard the phrase or the words dim Mac. I don't know what that means at all. Is it a play on something? It helps increase your Kumite. Isn't that the thing that they

fought at in Bloodsport? It's from Bloodsport. Go watch Bloodsport. You'll figure it all out. It all it's all in there oh no they do kind yeah because it was like this yeah i think i vaguely remember that yeah i got you i got you so anyway i think we have this new game we like to play oh boy yeah we even uh you know the other guys they like to use it sometimes we have our own version which is called unpaid or overrated oh no it's unpaid or underrated yeah i'm working i'm trying you're typing as i'm doing it my brain's like stop it yeah uh so instead of underrated or overrated unpaid means overrated underrated obviously means underrated all right i'll try to remember that so we've got,

just flag us or like signal or something, if you need to be reminded, but we do have, as this conversation went, it went from six to about 10 or 11. Big Dave specific questions on. We just need you to decide if they are unpaid or underrated. You of course cannot ride the line.

You do have to come out with an answer. Uh, Keith, do you want to go first this week? Yeah. So big Dave unpaid or overrated signing up for a signing up for full power, as well as bench only and deadlift only. Underrated.

Okay. Why is the druthers telling you that? Why not do all of them? Why just do one? Get that extra medal. Get that third medal. I get that. As a meet director, it'd be self-incriminating Get that extra medal. Get that third medal. like three meets, but only be one meet. You know what I mean? Like, because if you're not familiar, you, you know,

you have every right and it's your prerogative to sign up for full power bench only deadlift only, you know, do whatever you want, get as many state records, national records as you want. But the way they do it in open powerlifting is for every secondary division you sign up for, you get a whole other tab on open powerlifting. So if you're sitting there and you're like me and your OCD and you like to have a nice organized little power lifting thing it's like now you had just have it and it's the complete dumbest reason ever but i don't know i like it

to me it makes sense but that's the only reason i kind of uh but i know a lot of people that you know do it regularly just because they and it's probably saved a handful of people when they bomb out on squat and they still get to stay on the meat so i i signed up for i did push pull at my last one right i didn't sign up for full power but i signed up for a push pull because i can't i couldn't squat well no no i wasn't gonna miss the meat no yeah no i this is this is i guess my my question was more signing up for multiple divisions so like you're paying extra so you're basically you're paying your hundred dollar meat fee and you're paying an extra forty dollars to go bench only and an extra $40 to go deadlift only.

So then that way, if you do miss squats, you can still get bench only. And that's also because I think your deadlift record is technically under a deadlift only maybe versus a full power. So not that it's really all semantics. It's just, you know, tis what it is. So you use big day said that was underrated. So my second question for you, Mr. Dave, let's go with Gaston, the Disney character. Definitely underrated. Is it because no one eats like Gaston?

That too. No one flexes like a stone exactly look at that's two qualities right there no one fights like a stone that's three he should have been the real hero yeah yeah i mean come come on stockholm syndrome there oh yeah that was definitely not a not a friendly relationship between those ones i can see what you're saying in that one locking the locking the father up and then the daughter and my home yeah you will love me or i will kill you zero for he's zero for two right there boom, movie's over so I'm assuming you were a big fan of like the animated one

from the early 90s, did you watch the one that came out like five or six years ago with Emma Watson I did, I did I was a little disappointed with the, who they picked for cast and I was like oh man, I'm like they should have had someone like I don't know, Michael Hearn or someone that was just jacked, would have been perfect

somebody pointed out to me that Disney has yet to make a good live action remake someone like, I don't know, Michael Hearn or someone that was just jacked would have been perfect. Somebody pointed out to me that Disney has yet to make a good live-action remake because they're doing Moana right now. And Moana is easily one of the best Disney movies of recent memory. I love that movie. We've watched it multiple

times in the house. It has so much about grief and abuse and just there's so much to that movie we've watched it multiple times in the house it has so much about grief and abuse and just there's so much to that movie that like is a kid's movie but also as an adult you're watching it and you're just like shattered a little bit but so they want to do the live action and obviously the rock is going to play his own character so the rock is the Midas touch right everything he touches goes platinum but they haven't done a good movie yet so this might be the time where the rock has

like even the Black Adam movie it didn't do great and I don't think it was gonna no so can the rock save Moana I don't know but who's gonna play hey hey I hope it's the guy that does his voice whose name is escaping me right now who's

the guy oh my god he's in everything and i could picture him he was in firefly he was in the knight's tale oh jesus uh nathan philly no oh paul betney no you're getting close though damn it uh i'm gonna google this we're turning into the main podcast there's only so many people in firefly we're turning into the main podcast right now as we just google things on like the podcast hey ty hey ty hey hey moana yeah it is that's it that's interesting though they're doing that already that's pretty i mean because when did that come out what three four years ago no more than five i can't imagine like no and i haven't seen is alan tudyk okay um so you would know him when you see him yeah but go check out his imdb it will shock you how many voices this man does it's like

it was like when you found out that mark hamill did every voice ever that you love who's the other guy who did the same thing too but he did it for like warner brothers he did out that Mark Hamill did every voice ever that you love. Who's the other guy who did the same thing too? But he did it for like Warner Brothers. He did like every character. Yeah. I can't remember his name. Yeah. But he was like the guy like the voice of a thousand

characters or something like that. Yeah, he was ridiculous. Alright, so that one was underrated. Yes. We kind of got lost there. Okay. Big Dave. Talking during the movies. Since we're talking about movies already. So talking at the movie theater. Oh my God.

Hate it. Passion. So that's unpaid. That would definitely be unpaid. Yeah. Parentheses. Exclamation marks. Yeah. Oh man.

That's probably my biggest pet peeve of all. Yeah. I don't know what movie it was, but we went to it. And we're sitting there. And some dude answers his phone. No, unacceptable. That's horrible. And it wasn't like, oh, hey, I'm in a movie.

Boom, done. He's having a conversation. And I literally look back at him and I'm just like, really? And he's like, scoots down, hangs up. Maybe three minutes later, his phone goes off again. And he answers it. And literally by that time everyone turns around and is like are you kidding me

and sure enough he finally left but yeah I was just like who does that that's super douchey for sure very coming up there and I'll take that phone alright so this will be my last one let me pick a good one here so Big Dave

I want to know unpaid or underrated UPS. Oh, overrated. Obviously. I mean, come on. What about HDS? Your dreams are made with HDS. That's the intro to Ace Ventura, i promised i would do a jim carrey reference every episode i feel like we haven't we haven't had much jim carrey i think we i think

you did it last week but it's been a minute like we haven't been super consistent with it so but you you don't have like do you have like guys you see on your routes that like you recognize dps guys you don't have like oh yeah banter with them or anything or they're hard to miss with their brown booty shorts yeah yeah no uh the local they're the ones that are in my area i mean i do a super super rural area like it's like as rural as it gets um i mean aberdeen would be a city compared to the areas i go now um yeah speaking of that i ran into somebody else from the crew on yeah i was just i was just i i knew that i was it was uh wasn't it nate nate moe or moe moe yep oh yeah yeah i don't know yeah big big moe i believe yeah i remember seeing that and i was like oh that's such a small world

yeah i know it was the craziest thing is like i uh in the area i mean it's like a town of 60 people and there's like a little lake off there and I'm driving down the road and I'm like, just corner of my eye, I'm like, wow, that looks really familiar. And he was wearing like the Thanos gauntlet shirt. And I drive past it and I look in my mirror and then I see the lift shorts. I'm like, whoa, you don't see that every day where I'm at. So I back up and I was just like, is that you wear a pair of lift shorts?

And he's like, maybe. So is that a good thing? Yeah, it was just super random. She's just like, you know, who's going to ask him about massonomics and vining Minnesota. So, yeah, that's dope. That's what was that a big mo that brought the jerky yeah yep yeah lifesaver lifesaver my blood sugars just fall in and he's like here eat a bunch of jerky yeah amazing yeah shout out to big mo so when you say see when you say about seeing seeing

massanamus in the wild that is as wild and rural as it gets yes You stop and you talk. Alright. It looks like the controversial ones are up to me. Oh. What do you have? I added them all while we were talking too. I think I know which one I'm going to go for last. Yeah, I hope so. If you don't, I'm adding it.

We're going to do nine because I got it here. Alright. Unpaid or underrated sword awards? I'm going to do a nine because I got it here. All right. Unpaid or underrated sword awards. I'm going to go unpaid. Yeah. You got a lot of swords in the XPC. Not so much with us, but I know it's like one of those things. It seems like bodybuilding. Everybody does it.

It's like we try to do stuff that's a little different. Like the belts were a real cool thing. We've done some other. That was really cool. And those are nice because you can customize them to meet logos and all that kind of stuff too. But we did do a sword at our last King of the North. But it kind of was fitting with King of the North but it kind of was fitting with King of the North itself

but we did get it engraved and all that kind of stuff with the meat info but yeah we did a crown the year before so yeah I'm kind of done with the swords I think I think a lot of us are and that's why it's a running gag at Massanomics

it just goes back to me kind of mocking the beast meat in the dungeon. You can be the stereotype, but maybe let's try and expand and show people we have more depth. All right. Unpaid or underrated, jorts as a uniform. Ooh. Okay, wait a second here. He's putting threads together. I like my jorts. I'm trying to put the...

Yeah, I'm trying to do this. And you put everybody at the meet in jorts. Yeah. Some of them cut their jorts even jortier, which was hilarious. It was hot in that arena. I would have too. Definitely unpaid definitely yeah yeah i

definitely had to figure out which was which there with that you're with uh yeah well unpaid unpaid means overrated oh okay yeah underrated means underrated all right you're really throwing me under yeah we have to we're gonna have to like instill that to everyone i did just edit it in the show notes that i'm gonna copy and paste every So we're like, at least I'll have it right. When you set it up. Yeah. It's definitely underrated. A million. The best loading team I've ever seen was all in jorts.

So they're actually, we got a crew of them coming up and a couple of weeks to Fargo for our next meet. So, okay. So I was glad to make that. I was glad to make that connection. I love that.

He like, I wasn't sure if he said a few of them or a crew of them. And either way it works. I'm pretty sure he did say crew, but he might have. I don't know. Because I know at least at least one of those guys is in the crew. Said Diet Tanner is. I'm not sure if I think there might be another one too.

I think there's two for sure. Okay. Yeah. I think both Tommy's. I think they're both Tommy. Yeah. Okay. The last they're both Tommy. Okay. The last two are the potentially controversial ones.

Unpaid or underrated? Paul Rudd's slap-a-da-bass skit. Do you know it from the movie where he slap-a-da-bass? And how many times have you heard that in your bassist career oh yeah I'm gonna go overrated just because or unpaid sorry I got you but yeah I definitely heard that

a million times it's like everybody's like slapping I'm just like not much of a slapper but I mean these fingers can walk hell yeah you said you do black label covers and stuff too in the one band i've got a giant black label tattoo on my leg oh yeah i'm a big big zach wild fan somebody pointed out the other day he's not looking too good lately so yeah i hope he's in good health all right last one for all the marbles okay un. Unpaid or underrated. The breath belt. Overrated. Unpaid and overrated. Absolutely.

Now, who makes the breath belt again? For some reason, I can't remember. Oh, that would be. Derek Thistle. Wait. That would be my good buddy. Yeah, we. Mr. Sullivan and i are uh

not in very good terms these days that happens i feel like i feel like half the stances he takes is just to keep building up publicity for himself and just to be just stay relevant like i don't know if like half the time he takes a stance if he even believes in it or if he's just trying to stir the pot so he's still relevant yeah yeah um i agree with that you know and you know with our past dealings that we've had with him because he's came up here before and he did do a seminar a few years ago um in fargo but then later on down the road we ended up just you know bumping heads and having some issues um and i mean i kept everything as professional as i could you know last time we saw each other i shook his hand they left the meat and whatever um but yeah it's definitely uh kicked up a gear because

oh last spring our last king of the north competition um big john oldham came up and was the you know guest lifter and you know came to hang out and he told us that joe and brianni literally told him they're like hey we would prefer it if you didn't come to north dakota and it's just like oh my god who says that yeah that's i mean can you get his junior high dramas than that like seriously so yeah so that definitely uh kind of put where my thoughts are with that so well see I didn't know any of that and I only know who they are because of who they've been on the podcast but But I definitely would say that if there's ever something controversial happening,

his name shows up. I don't know much about him, but even at the Arnold, I heard somebody say like, I hope he shows up because I got stuff for him. And I was just walking by and heard that. And I was just like, why is this guy so hated?

Like, he's just so... But, you know. Anyway, i thought i'd throw that one in there just to see just to see the look on your face and see and see how professional you would dance around it um i don't i don't think he's listening or anybody who even knows him is listening but at the same time like i don't have anything negative to say i'm never going to sit here and judge somebody's intentions i can only judge their actions yeah um i don't know who was it i was talking to somebody in the discord and when it came up and we were talking about it and i was like oh i can always release the uh the joe sullivan file

of it is like i got like 24 pages of statements from what yeah yeah it was it was bad to deal with the last time he was up here and that's the big issue with is that where he's from no they're in vegas aren't they uh no he yeah he's from they're from vegas i think he's originally from ohio somewhere so why would he tell john not to go up there like oh he oh just because he hit the relationship that he had with me he doesn't like me yeah him or brianni Brianni. So it's like, man. I don't like anybody, but I'm not going to tell them what to do or tell anybody around them what to do. Yeah, exactly.

And that's the thing is, I mean, I know tons of my friends that are, you know, coached by him. And I'm not like, don't be coached by him. It's not a human thing to say. One would think. Yeah. All right. Well, that's fun. I've been, I stay out of this stuff and that's kind of the running joke in the, in the podcast is like, I only kind of heard about it.

So I threw in the breath, the breath belt thing. Cause I didn't, I was interested to see if anybody would even name names or if you would just like, we would just talk about the product that um has been brought up on this podcast before um but yeah i stay out of that kind of stuff and that's on purpose right like i just i did like my first even slightly political post on tiktok and i'm already just a nerve of anxiety because i just don't want to deal with other humans and their idiosyncrasies and their thoughts and stuff but it's like sometimes i have to say things because you know nobody else is yeah i'm i think i'm i i don't think i'm allowed to put anything political anymore on instagram or i'll probably lose my

account so probably safe to just so it's probably safe to just be like man moving on i like my instagram a religion and political free zone when I can get it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And it's like really, you know, posting stuff like that. It's like, is it really going to change

somebody's mind or opinion? No. And being controversial, it usually says more about you. Right? Like, what are you, 14? Yeah. You're out here like saying controversial stuff like look at me i'm provocative no nobody cares man just literally yep but yeah anyway i wanted to bring that one up and have some fun with it i i really appreciated it because i i was gonna

with with with withhold or with stain whatever upstainain from getting too deep into it. So I'm glad that you threw it in there and made me happy. It's pretty open. We stayed superficial enough. I think we stayed superficial enough that we're not going to damage anybody's reputation or career, which hopefully is what we do for this entire podcast. Just stay on that like level where like i think dave's indestructible if that stalker lady couldn't you know break his uh you know ethics i think i think we're good no i bet she tried now have have you have you done like you do have you gotten

like written statements from the detectives or anything that like do you have like a folder saying that this this lady's batshit crazy here called this guy from 10 years ago so like i'm when i talked to the detective about it i just referred them to the other detectives that i knew and dealt with on before so and one of them was uh at that time they've moved on they were like a homeland security agent so i'm like hey you can call so-and-so and and and they did they verified everything they're like yeah you were in fargo you were on your route you were doing your thing so it's like they're like we thought it was a pretty crazy story to begin with but we just had to follow up so yeah it's definitely good

to keep all those phone numbers all those contacts for sure sure. If you think the Joe Sullivan file is big, wait until you see the Shiloh Farmer file. It's huge. All right. I think we're time to get into the last segment. Yeah. So, Big Dave, do you have anything for us this week? We always like to end the podcast with the guests asking the host a couple things.

I know it's one of my favorite segments. I joey enjoys it gives us a chance to shoot a little bit on our end so what do you got for us buddy uh i got a couple couple couple couple basic ones couple um number one either morning or evening workouts and why so for me if i had to pick one if i had to pick one like and i had to do it every day, I'd probably go morning. What I actually do is I train Sunday mornings and then Tuesday and Thursday, Tuesday and Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, like two other days in the evening when I get home from work. So I will the most enjoyable training session I always have is the Sunday because it's coming off of a full rest day. And it's just like that's that's my half people over day. But I guess if it's more of like, am I more alert in the morning or in the evening?

I think even in the morning, like I seldom have a bad workout in the morning. Whereas if I try to work out after work, like it's always inferior to just a going into the gym with no stress. Like I would be coming home from work so i'll go morning even though i lift in the evening my ideal sweet spot is probably between 11 and 2 and that would be um if i'm off or if i don't have to go in until one or two o'clock i sleep in a little bit get up have something to something to eat, relax, spend some time with the kids, go to the gym. But if I am working and I can get out of work early between two or four, I don't like to be in the gym past five o'clock. I have found that it messes my sleep up. It messes up my workout. I start getting anxious about dinner and my wife and the kids and all that.

So if that's the case, I just skip that day. Like I just don't, I just don't because I know it's going to be a garbage workout. So my ideal sweet spot. Now there was a time and maybe, you know, when I was a little younger, I could get up five, 6am and go to the gym before work. I can't do that anymore. I'm too tired. I'm too beat up and I'm too sick. So like getting up anything before eight o'clock right now, even before seven, sorry,

before seven is hard. I'd like to, but my gym is also directly below my children's room. Ah, yeah. So maybe if I went to bed, as soon as we're done recording, I could be up at five o'clock and in there,

you know, quick fried egg, jump into the gym, but I'd wake up the whole house because tomorrow's deadlift day, right? Yeah. I do mine pretty much as soon as I get off work. I usually can get

to the gym by 3.30, 4 o'clock. Kind of beat that mad rush, which is nice. Then when I'm done, boom, supper. Yeah. Wake up the whole house yelling yeah buddy on every deadlift so that that's something i always have to juggle too like when i get home from work like if i get home at like 4 30 i pretty much have to eat and then train if i get home at like 3 30

then i try to train and then eat because like i don't know i just if it's seven o'clock and i haven't eaten dinner yet i'm gonna fucking kill somebody so like i kind, like, I kind of have to, like, just in my head, like, all right, do I need to eat and chill for a half hour and then train and vice versa? It's always like a, I'm fighting against the clock depending on when I get home from work. It also depends on what I'm doing. I don't like to deadlift or squat on an empty stomach.

Same. But if it's an upper body day, just go, man. Like, I, for some reason, because Juggernaut gives me two days a week where it's just bench for multiple like a high volume bench and bunch of wrap or accessories and i won't say i treat them like they're easy days but they're kind of easy days right because it's just a bunch of bench and then a bunch of accessories whereas the other two days are all three lifts and then accessories and i'm like no i going to need to eat for that.

Yeah, definitely. I'm going to pass out while I'm dead lifting. So are you both, are you both doing juggernaut then? Yep. I have, I have, yeah, Joey is, I have a, I have a coach that I've been working with for like the last five years. It just says online programming for me. That's a little, you know, it's more than juggernaut, but it's less than you know 99 percent of other people out there like selling coaching so i've had a good rapport with him he comes and handles me at local meets and stuff so i'm gonna keep keep riding that train until

something else happens so i don't like people enough i've had a couple people reach out and offer to coach me and it's just a matter of like i think we actually i was just thinking about him when we talked to big hot it's just like the idea that like I said if I get home late from work I want to go eat I don't want to suddenly have to call my coach and be like oh you know like

I'm accountable to me would I do better if I was accountable to somebody else maybe but like I've got two kids I've got a full time job I like I drive half an hour both way to and from work. It's just not feasible that I'm going to work out on the days I'm supposed to work out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you have that flexibility,

you can do what you need to do when, and yeah. And it's weird too, is like, even as a meet director, I see so many people that do have coaches, don't have coaches. And some of them, I sit back and i watch and i'm just like like you're going backwards like a lot of them of like like you you were you were doing better before you had a coach and then you went backwards like you know you lost 50 pounds on your total it's like so it's very interesting to see this coaching versus non-coaching. But that would lead into the second question. Pre-workout meal before you work out?

Or does it depend on the lift? Yeah, I just answered that. Yeah. yeah so that's um i mean for me for me i mean i i'll do something simple as peanut butter jelly sandwich and boom out the door kind of thing so as long as i have something i should probably start considering that i was buying these power bars for a bit and i just found them to be a little too i don't know just weird on my teeth. Peanut butter and jelly does sound like a good idea. My preferred is two eggs and half an avocado. Just gets me all the proteins, all the fats, and then I'll take some nitric oxide. Some Vasoblitz.

There you go. Yeah, I can't train on an empty stomach at all. I have to have something in me, even if it's a snack. But like I said, I kind of play by your like on depending on what time i get home from work it's either like some peanuts or bag of protein chips or something but more often than not it is a light dinner and then training and then like a you know some snacks for bed yeah i love dry roasted peanuts i was at the this get together we were talking about like the the snacks and stuff like that and and dry roasted peanuts i will eat until you take

them away from me and i will often turn to my wife and say you need to take these away from me my stomach is on fire but i will eat like a planter's thing if you don't take them away from me i will just sit there and eat them for half that bottle we can we i can't have those in the house everything when i say nuts for me it's like i have like the 100 calorie pack of nuts you get from the grocery store that literally just but like it's like 17 peanuts or you know in my case usually almonds or cashews oh i know everybody talked about how last week i was like i don't have an addictive personality but I love Jager. But again, it's a thing I could

quit easily. And I did by just not having it in the house. It's not that I'm addicted to peanuts. It's just that they're so delicious and I won't track how many I'm eating. I'll just sit there and keep going until my stomach goes, dude, stop. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, this is bad. Honey, take these

from me. See here. and then like oh yeah this is bad honey take these from me see here all right number three what would be your meat day necessities a handler ideally i'll go ahead no no if you got thoughts go i was just gonna jump in because you had your druthers going uh yeah so like i the lift hard live easy classic was the first time i hadn't had a hand like so my wife was there and she essentially handled me as best she could i mean like but i'm i've been spoiled enough to have friends like help handle me over for the last you know several years to where like i specifically try to have someone there just help load the bar so i'm not having to worry about like like i i pre okay so i'll dumb it down something i have to have to meet one thing it's my my cheat sheet

that has all my warm-ups that i want to take all my attempt selections like my my openers always set in stone my second i usually give myself two or three options and my fourth i usually give myself like four options and like i have it all converted out with pounds and kilos so it's just super fucking easy you know yep that was an rp you know whatever like i i can do 20 more pounds or i can do 10 more pounds and i've got options to pick that so like basically my my preparation cheat sheet i couldn't i would not want to do a meet without that essentially everything else i could kind of wing it but if i went into the meet without my list of shit that i wanted without my numbers pretty much planned out you know as granted everyone gives me shit for that sometimes it's like oh you know just swing for the fences go for rp20 you know maybe you'll maybe hit a big pr and i'm like okay i don't like missing lifts missing lifts fucks me up like

i'd rather go nine for nine and leave 20 pounds on the the you know the the platform then go six for nine and hit a five pound pr or something like that would piss me off like i'd be happy i'd be more satisfied nine for nine slightly less total and that yeah that's the biggest difference i think between you and i and our our view on powerlifting is i'm going into that third one thinking i'm failing um when i it did my last one at the wrpf i don't know if you know this dave they allow you to do a fourth set so if you green if you if you white light all of your lifts going in they'll allow you to do a fourth as long as it's a record yeah so when i did the third and my friend steve was there big steve you met him at

the at the lift hard live easy and um he was like they came up and they're like, do you want to do a fourth? And then I turned to him and I was like, I don't know, man. Like, I just don't know. He's like, you're doing it. He didn't even tell me the weight. Okay. But it was just like, you just shut up and go lift that up. And I did it.

But again, it was just like a matter of, it was only a four pound record, but it's obviously a record meet for me, meet record, as we talked about last week. So like, I disagree. I'm going in there to fail a lift. The second, the first and second are to get me on the board. Fantastic. You're still an open power lifting if you do that, but that third should be you literally trying to fail. That third should be you showing up and showing the world how strong you either are or aren't. But that's how I view meets. I understand that there are some people and you know, it's kind of one of the Joe Sullivan things I did like about something, or he was just like with a coach and the handles need to shut up, just shut up and let your lifters do their job.

And sometimes that means just going and just not caring about the lights. There's one thing I didn't appreciate about any of the meets I did. They were the people that were specifically there to get on the books and you can watch them leave, wait on the bar. They're doing lifts that look like RPE seven or eight yeah at a meet but it's just because i want i want on the i just want i just want to be the white lights i just want this i want to be on the podium and i went there and i was like no i'll fail that lift skip the podium but no i tried

harder than you but that's me right sorry go ahead yeah no no exactly i agree with you i uh i actually have some regrets for my last meet where i went in with the game plan. This is what my numbers were going to be. Um, I think, yeah, I was planning, the plan was a 675 was going to be my second attempt on squats. and I think I opened with like 630 or something like that. Hit it, and then I started second-guessing myself, and then I went and played safe, and I went 650, and I was like, well, I'll go for that 675 on my third, and I was just like so, so upset that I did that. It still bugs me. I'm going to do the Arnold again just to try and redeem myself from what i did hell yeah it's because i i felt like i left i'd left

too much like i should have stuck to the game plan went for that bigger number versus playing it safe by 20 pounds having yeah and again everybody's a little different some people want the lights some people want the glory. I would not call myself that. I'm not going to war with the bar. I think we know that about me. But again, to answer your question, one thing I found is I don't like to eat during a meat day.

I've only done two meats. And one day I brought like a whole lunch. And the second one, I only brought like some power bars and some hard boiled eggsiled eggs and i had more fun and i was more alert during the lower calorie day so i'm gonna say a couple hard-boiled eggs just like some protein and a lot of candy to keep my blood sugar up from my so my insulin doesn't attack my body um an energy drink for halfway through the day uh preferably 200 milligrams or more i'm bringing my own smelling salts going forward i went through four bottles and they

were all dead and i'm going like how is anybody getting anything off of this yeah no no no i definitely bring my own yeah you never know what you never know what's going to be there. And one thing I wish I had brought from the last one, but I didn't. Beer. So everybody else finished their deadlifts and I was going up for my fourth because you go up after everybody else. Only me and one other guy, and we were both in the same weight class,

went up. By the way, I think I out-deadlifted him by over 100 pounds. But everybody else was standing there having a beer and i was like oh no like i want that i had like a little bit of fireball but i think in the next one i'll bring a cooler a cooler and i'll have um some beer some jaggers and uh some food in it and i think those would be my necessities for meat day oh and electrolytes don't fuck around bring electrolytes get your supplement well especially if it's as warm as it

was you know oh yeah absolutely you know absolutely that's the one thing i made sure i had in droves i was offering it to other people you got some electrolytes are you good you good you hydrated you hydrated because like you never you want to see a muscle tear when it's dried out i don't again i've seen a video of it once never want to see it again no it's not pretty um my necessity would definitely go back to being a handler having a handler because i honestly i can't get my ends or knee sleeves by myself. I did. I need, I, my wife has to help me with that. And that's, that, that's a whole workout in itself. So.

Yeah. Yeah. Luckily my SPD sleeves are, are pretty good. The one I did without a handler, the second one I did with Steve as the handler, but now Steve's lifting with me in the next one. So we're going to handle each other because where's that meet at uh still in apex in burlington where's that from me actually right near me so burlington ontario probably two hour drive from you i might be able to make it up for you help you out i'll let you know let me know the data's yep but it's ultimately yeah having somebody there to like look at my lift and go, now you can do more.

That was really important. But now we don't know, between me and him, are we going to do that for each other? I'm warming up and you're the other way around because he can outbench and out squat me ridiculous amounts. So, yeah, we'll see. The logistics of that you always struggle with too is you don't know what you might not be on the same flight i'm assuming he's bigger than you right he's like so you know depending on where the cutoff is of how many flights there are it's like that i've seen it

bite people in the ass where like like like i've got some like husband wife boyfriend girlfriend couples that like do meets together and like their plans to help handle each other but then it's like they're short chain like they're having to run out lift off when they should be taking their last fucking squat warm-up or their last bench warm-up because they're you know yeah see and i i get a lot of those too you know couples and you know that people want to do that and i if they ask and like let me know beforehand i'll make those adjustments with the flight so they can do that too so oh that's good we're gonna i think sandy's coming with us on the next one which is steve's wife

and um i think she's gonna be there to kind of at least do the hard work where like you know you're in your deadlift shoes so you can't go outside so somebody has to grab something for you um we'll see how well she can kind of measure the lifts, but we'll see. I think my wife might even be at that one. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Cause that's actually fun.

Sorry. My birthday weekend. So I will actually be booking off the entire weekend and then getting a hotel in the city near the power lifting meet so that she can come and go as she pleases. Yeah, that helps for sure. And then I can go and party directly after the powerlifting meet without

having to worry about how I'm getting home. Yeah. Any other questions? Yeah. Number four, what is the one song you listened to before attempting a PR or before stepping on the platform? Honestly, I don't like, I don't listen to my own music at a meet,

but if I did, it'd be like, there's, I basically like my PR song in the gym is uncle Lucius. I think it's Lucius Lucius keep the wolves away. It's a very country song, but it was like, it was on kind of throwback to last week. It was one of the songs from an episode on. Shit. I can't think of that.

What's the Jesus. What's the Western show. Yeah. Yellowstone. Yeah. Yeah. Where, where,

where they, they killed off one of the characters. They took them to the train. It was, it was a song they were playing on the truck rides. The first time they went to the train station. So that song just always kind of hit hard to me. You know, so as goofy and weird as a song that is it's just it really it's like a really heavy bass country song and it just hits hard for me every time so my friends know if

i if i turn that on in the basement and like crank up the volume because usually we have like like normal listening volume is like 40 and then like like like 40 out of whatever and it's like if you're going for a heavy set, you can turn it up. But if not, like it goes back to 40. I generally just tend to go with what I'm feeling. If you looked at my playlist right now, like I've got some EDM, I've got Slaughter to Prevail, which is, you know, Deathcore. I've got thelaughter to Prevail, which is, you know, Death Core. I've got the theme from John Wick.

I've got some Wu-Tang, right? It just generally is how I'm feeling at the time. The most consistent is two of them. And it would probably be Welcome Back, Oh Sleeping... Let me get the whole name. Oh Sleeping Dreamer by Lorna Shore. It has a minute and 30 long setup and then it just kicks in with probably the heaviest

deathcore I've ever heard in my life. Then the other one is a song called, I'm going to butcher this and I'm sorry to all my Norwegian friends, Leifjeberg. It is a song by Wardruna called it refers to the healing mountain

and it is legitimately just chanting and drums but i do find if the mood i'm in requires that adrenaline then i go for the death core but a lot of the time the mood i'm in requires center breathing relaxing calming down I'll go with the Liefenberg. Interesting, interesting. I'm either Slipknot, anything basically.

The other one that always comes back is Drowning Pool Bodies. Oh yeah, that's in my top five for PR songs. Yeah. It's tough to beat that one.

That one kicks in right away with that initial scream. And so if that's interesting, cause that initial scream there, the whispering to that, give that one. I'm talking about that. Uh, I mean,

you might not like death core, but give it like the first two minutes of the song. Yeah. And then you can hear what I'm talking about when he comes in with that initial, cause it's all operatic or not operatic. It's like orchestral and then it kicks in and it does the same thing where it just kicks in as hard as it possibly can.

And the guy, the singer from Lorna shore is essentially a demon in a 20 year old body, the sounds and voices he can do they've actually put cameras up his nose and to look down his throat to find out like how do you do that that's almost impossible yeah and he's just like I do it for fun it's insane

oh and I also got in here Ditch by Lamb of God the yeah the message to that song as well as the delivery i'm always really liked hell yeah slipknot hell yeah tough to be tough to be yeah uh one last one i know you guys were talking about marvel the other show on one of the other shows if you could be one character for marvel universe who would it be wolverine

easy for me easy uh the the the healing has always been attractive to me uh the immortality is not that attractive um and the sadness that comes with it. When he's really well-written, he's really well-written. When he is not well-written, he is in every fucking comic book on the shelf. Deadpool once described him as having the superpower to appear in

every available storyline. But, like, he just... He can't be poisoned. The stuff that he's been through, just love and just i also have suffered through anger issues in the past and really related to having to pull those in like he does sometimes i think i'm gonna go with so my my druthers on this would, I want to go with someone that technically doesn't necessarily have superpowers. So then it doesn't necessarily like alter my entire life. Like I don't want to be the fucking Hulk and like kill my wife accidentally when I walk out in the middle of the night and I wake up.

So like, I guess that leads me to like Hawkeye, I guess. Okay. I mean, the archery thing would be cool. And like to have a skill is, and I don't know how you could really tell that would mean. I guess you could compete in that at the Olympics or something, but I don't know. I'm going to go with the basic answer. I don't want my life to be altered by being a mutant. So I think if I had to pick to be a mutant, I'd have to think about it, but I'm going to cop out and just pick a human with super abilities.

What about you, Dave? What would you be? Thanos, hands down. Oh yeah. Jesus. Yeah. I guess I, there's,

there's just so much to the character that people don't look at. Well, Thanos comic book, Thanos or movie Thanos. Um, a little both, but go ahead. Just go into the movie.

The fact of him wiping out half of the world to save the other half comes true. Because once you watch, what is it? It's in the Eternals? That once there's so much population, it destroys everything. So he could have saved everything. All right. No one looks at that yeah i didn't think it was overly evil to snap your fingers and save the universe by thinning the herd but i guess most people did but apparently it's a

little frowned upon it is probably pretty i mean i mean, Genghis Khan said the same thing. I will, I will make, um, I will make Mongols act right. Even if I have to kill half of them in the process. And I mean, if that's who you're looking up to Marco Polo underrated, I, I actually love Genghis Khan.

Not like for what he did, but just the entire history. It's if there's one historical figure I had to like read the most about, it was him. Yeah. Because he did so much terrible, terrible stuff. And then he also like created the postal system. Like he couldn't read, but made sure all of his kids could. Like there were just aspects of the dude that, you know, if you like Thanos Thanos you'd probably like him to be honest

yeah you know oh man I don't know how I didn't bring it up trailer park boys yeah fan overrated probably unpaid for me

I don't know how well to tell this story so the first time i ever saw the trailer park boys um i was messed up on mushrooms and i came home and i came into the bedroom and i was walking like i was in space because i didn't want anybody to hear me which apparently meant giant steps because the carpet was red and red is mars and then i turned on the tv because i was like that'll help caught me down and it was trailer park boys and um obviously your perception of that moment is going to reflect the perception of everything else um so i've never really been able to get back into them because that was my first

experience uh there are episodes i love the conky episode incredible but then there's other stuff too i just i find it a bit cringe humor and i think we've established on this on this podcast i don't really enjoy cringe humor in that sense or we're watching other people go through something i don't want to go through isn't funny to me and so i've kind of just realized it's it's not my style it'll also shock you to find out i don't like seinfeld i don't think seinfeld is funny in any way, shape or form. References to Seinfeld make me laugh, but the actual show pretty much deadpans me. I don't find it that funny. I feel like as popular as Seinfeld is, that's not an uncommon.

There's a lot of people living like Seinfeld. Yeah. It's not one of those ones that I think is a bad show. I think we've talked about shows where I've said are bad. Big Bang Theory and Friends. think is a bad show i think we've talked about shows where i've said are bad big bang theory and friends those are legitimately bad tv shows that when somebody likes them i immediately judge their sense of humor whereas seinfeld i'm like we'll probably get along but like i'm not gonna enjoy that show with you did you ever did you ever watch anything like curb your enthusiasm with larry david more cringe humor actually um no

i yeah i like i like curb so much better than seinfeld yeah no and i it was it was again somebody going through awkward moments that i'm supposed to find funny i never just did but again it's that's not a level where i'm just like that's a bad show i can just say i did not it was not to my taste it's the older i get i really relate with larry david in that show 100 same like i feel like i am larry david most days when i wake up like i like 80 of the things that he's bitched about or had an opinion about but yeah i i can i agree with some and i'm just you know it goes back to what last week we were talking about just having strong opinions about meaningless things i'm like yeah since i'm pretty good at that yeah again like i said that's why i wouldn't say it's a bad show it just wasn't to my taste

so go back to trailer park boys okay i don't know i'm not sure which episode it was i was listening to but you said worst case ont Yep. So I wasn't sure. Is that a real saying? Or is that a trailer park thing? Because that's where I heard it from. So I thought it was just a trailer park thing. I actually think I heard it on TikTok. But I might have also heard it in Shorzy.

So it is definitely a saying. And remember that trailer park boys aren't from Ontario. They're from out east. They're from actually where Scantz is right now. Out in New Brunswick and Halifax and that area. He's out in the Scotias. But it might have been Letterkenny or Shorzy. I want to say it was Shorzy for sure, though.

Okay. Yeah, because when I heard that, I was just like, oh, my God. Because I've used that just jokingly so many random times. what that's great because nobody from where you're from get it no they don't no exactly it's definitely one of the things that just sneaks into me even at work i'll say it and i'm dealing with clients and they're just looking at me and it's like yeah i said it just move on i said worst case ontario well i think that about wraps us up for the day yeah that's what that's all i had i guess i was just trying to look up i could have swore there was a new a new season of shorezy coming out i was trying to see the date and i was it's on a

date that ends in 9 of september so it's either the 19th or the 29th word so i think that we're both really big fans of that we'd actually have like a little like two minute segment each week as those come out and just shoot the shit about the previous episode i'm down to talk about shorezy all day absolutely because hot take i think shorezy is better than letter kenny all day like i will i will go to my grave feeling that way i just i enjoy watching shorezy more than letter kenny it has more of a um storyline yeah whereas letter kenny is kind of just sporadic so i can see why people enjoy that more but i think that letter kenny has made me laugh full belly laugh like have to pause it because i'm crying especially the the canada

goose episode so if you're watching this or if you're listening to this and you've never watched letter kenny i want to say it's like season two, episode three. Just find the Canada Goose episode of Letterkenny and you'll see pretty much my sense of humor. Speaking of me, I have been Big Joey. You can find me at Joey underscore Moleskote on Instagram. Don't look me up on TikTok. You can use my code LiftBearded on ObsidianAmonia or you can use my code lift bearded on obsidian ammonia or you can use our code which i encourage you to use unpaid uh and uh tell me uh where are where

you guys are at um big keith on instagram keith honeycutt 73 go follow my orange gym the no wine What about you, Big Dave? Instagram, TheDave31. Also, Stensland Powerlifting and XPC Midwest for Instagram. Nice. Well, with that, everyone, this was another two. Without doing the math, I think, like Joey said, we're going to be just under two and a half hours. Now, is that without doing the math or the big math oh yeah yeah this guy keeps trying to correct my math in the in the discord big mat anyway he's scheduled for next week we'll get him on yep one of these days uh well until then boys go ahead and uh we'll see you next tuesday