Unpaid And Underrated - 019 : Hotdog Puma

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Steve. They dive right into great topics like what it's like to be a botonist... no wait it's an arborist, spruce tip water, hops, honey buns, slumber parties, and traumatic incidents. You wont want to miss this week. Links Follw The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @waffleirongym (https://www.instagram.com/waffleirongym/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Steve.

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Episode 9 of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast on NPR. I am your host, Big Joey. I'm joined here by my guests, Big Keith. Hello! I knew you were going to do that to me. And what are we calling you today? Big Waffle Iron? Big Waffle Stone?

Big Steve. Big Waffles. Doesn't matter. Big Steve. We'll get to the waffle stuff at some point, I assume. Oh, yeah. Well, this is the podcast for crew, by crew, about crew, about Jaeger, and a lot of platypus talk. Let's dive right in.

Let's dive right in because I'm actually excited to share what I'm drinking today. Ooh. Okay? But I want you guys to go first. Okay. I guess I'll start. Yeah. I'm drinking some milk out of a lift glass

because i'm fancy is that the first milk we've had on i can't i think that might be the first milk i like that you just you're just orange glazing over the lift glass oh right i've never seen that in my life you've never seen the lift glass? No. Is that some OG stuff? I don't know. Or did you make that? No, that was a couple years ago, I guess. Carol String would have destroyed that on me.

Oh, yeah. That's probably why they don't have them anymore. Because I'm sure 50% showed up broken. Is it dishwasher safe? I was going to say that. I've got at least two of them. Two dishwashers? No, two glasses.

Although, when your dishwasher breaks, you kind of start thinking about, maybe I should just have a spare every appliance and just keep them in the basement or something. I've just got hands. They do dishes pretty well. Yeah, well well my wife has it my wife has uh issues every time i uh i wash dishes so i'm kind of banned from that that chore yeah if you're uh if you're incompetent enough at certain you know chores in the house to get out of them. That's called weaponized incompetence.

I'm fairly aware of that one. I've never had the luxury of a dishwasher. I've been hand washing dishes for 38 years. Who was it on the podcast that was just like, what's the point? Because you've got to wash them before you put them in anyway. And then you're

just pre-washing them to put them in the washer so the washer can just get them wet and you feel like they're cleaner. It just makes me think of Joe Dirt with the scrubbing bubbles. Scrubbles, yep. Where he goes, they do the work so you don't have to.

No, I didn't. Heath, what are you drinking? I'm working on the world this week and it's my last drink I have in the fridge. It's the Wegmans Mandarin Orange. So nothing, nothing fancy,

but I didn't really have time to get out and buy anything. But you know, living that hotel life, working on the road. So it's what we got. And I'll can jump to, well, I'll do it.

Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Okay. All right. I was going to jump to the next segment and say, and I'm not wearing a Masonomics shirt either, so you still got to tell us what you're drinking.

I'm pretty excited. So my wife got me this really fancy like cucumber melon mint prebiotic sparkle drink, but I told her fuck that. I went and bought a can of hop water. I've been hearing about that. Because I wanted to hear it all the rage on the massnomics podcast um so this is a this will be the first sip

yeah well i had a bit of one the other night from morgan's just because i picked up the wrong can but this is made by the upper tames in woodstock ontario i was there the other day a big fancy brewery i felt so out out of place in my lift sweater and jeans. And then you got all these guys that clearly either own the construction site or own the golf course just sitting around drinking craft beer and terrible wings. All right. Had to be super awkward wearing your eat ass shirt, huh, too? I should have worn that one, but I just came from work.

All right. Let's see what Tanner says about all this. It smells like hops. Meh. Meh. How far north are you, Steve? Where are you? I'm in north central

Connecticut. Yeah, okay. Do you guys have spruce trees? Not really, no. Do you get sp spruce trees? Not really, no. Do you get spruce trees up where you are, Keith? I don't know, man. I'm not a botanist. Alright. It's an arborist. I'm not an arborist. Yeah. Her too.

So, every spring, I learned this from some of my indigenous friends, when spruce trees are growing, you'll have their dark green and, you'll have their dark green and then you'll have their bright green tip. And if you walk up and you just bend the bright green tip,

it'll break where it's new. You don't want to do too many because that's the tree growing, but they are edible. They're soft and they are just really high in vitamin C. What you do is you either just eat them raw. It's fantastic.

Or you can just put them in your water. And that's what this tastes like. This is essentially just spruce tip water to me. But then it has that weird kind of hoppy fart aftertaste. You get the lemon and the citrus from it, and then you just get that weird hoppiness.

But it's the only water I have, so we're going gonna drink that before we get into the keats so as a as a as a guy that doesn't drink a whole lot of fancy you know beers and whatnot i don't think i know what hops tastes like or what it is like at all is there something hops adjacent that i might be able to relate to so i can like two steps yeah no no those are the only two okay no um grapefruit hops generally are just highly citrusy like pine salt yeah pretty much what hops are i don't think i want to drink that it's just it's lemon it's honestly just lemony and and then the hops add this bitterness to it at the end there's so many different kinds of hops too right there's bitter hops there's wait keith you didn't

just randomly drink like pint all the cleaning supplies no as a kid not either i'm sure uh you know at what point when you're like smelling something are you eating it because like you know you know i mean like just in general like because it's all going like you're digesting some micro particles every time that you even smell something so in that aspect you know smd fdb right because some of you haven't like smelled something and like you can like almost taste it like if it's so good so i can taste it on my tongue yeah it's it it's it's a taste that you use your ah fuck i butchered that you had it there you had it there damn it oh it's a taste you taste with your mouth yep there you go all right uh so you're not wearing a masonomic shirt we know we're 10 minutes in how are we for

time yeah i wore i i did wear two this week um i only packed two and i wore them both to the gym and tonight's actually got complimented on, so I was pretty happy about that. The power lifter record holder. I had two people comment on it, so I was pretty proud of that. Currently, I'm not wearing one. I see, Steve. Now you have one

of my favorites on. I got the sister podcast shirt on right now. The seven-year? I have the sister podcast shirt on right now. The seven year. Yep. I have the flag or no, this is the, this is the animated one.

300, 300 episode, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Okay. I have the seventh year in red. That's it. Yeah. I was wearing the, the wolf pack one earlier today. The wolf pack one, the wolf one, the mass economics one earlier today. The Wolf Pack one? The Wolf one.

Masonomics in the front and then the Wolf in the back. Oh, okay. I don't know what that one's called, but I just call it the Wolf Pack one. Actually, I think this one has a wolf on it. I'm doing the Live Large Masonomics collab. The party never ends. some of my shirt... I don't know if it's a good thing or

not but i've complained about it before i recently just like got rid of all my smalls and moved up to mediums now the mediums are getting kind of tight and i'm wondering if it's time to just back off the creatine for a bit and like because i'm the heaviest i've been in, I think, ever right now. And it's not getting better. So we're going to have to start really tracking her food or back off the creatine or do something because I'm starting to worry about having to redo my entire

wardrobe again. I did just check their website. The official name of the Mastodon shirt with the wolf on it is called the truck stop shirt. Okay. Never would have gotten that one. I think he's making that up. To harken back.

To wolf shirts at truck stops. The three wolf moon. It makes sense. So I'm not going to deny that one. Big Kevin finally had a baby. Is that what you're telling me here?

Yeah, yeah. It was Big Kevin's wife. Congratulations to her. I think it was a few days ago they posted it privately, and I think they just went public with it today. That's fantastic. Congrats. Everybody involved there, but mostly the one that did all the work. Yes.

Not Kevin. Not Kevin. Congrats, Kevin's wife. I would say say so i feel like i know her name and just i feel bad right now not having it on my i looked at it i should have i should have typed it the notes i'm not gonna guess but i knew what it was a couple months ago when i you know dm'd her and had you know all his show notes and everything and i even saw it today because i was gonna type it into the show notes but yeah drop a ball on that so big n because I was going to type it in to the show notes, but yeah, drop a bow on that. So, Big Nate, go ahead and edit it in for us. We'll be good to go.

Who's that girl? Who's that girl? It's Jess. Yeah, make us look bad. Speaking of people whose name we don't say very often and probably won't say anymore, they got stiffed. They got stiffed. They got stood up.

They got left behind like Big Dave's old girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people might not have really caught on to that because they didn't really say it. I don't think they mentioned it in the podcast specifically who it was going to be. But the episode that we'll rate in a little bit was supposed to be Steffi Cohen as a guest. I think she was a guest a few years ago with her then-fiancee

Hayden. It was a good episode back in the day. Tanner had it all lined up for her to come on last week. She just didn't show up. I think she texted him later in the evening that something just came up. It happens, man. It was just kind of funny because after the Shane Hunt like it happens it was just it was just kind of funny because after the shane hunt thing you know doing that twice it

was just kind of like you know when you're when you're listening along live and you can just kind of like see the facial reactions of the host when they're like yeah it's been about 40 minutes and you know they're not in the waiting room it's like it's just kind of funny uh i'm waiting to see if someone that does that to us uh at some point but i think we would just not record because we pretty much have the guest on right off the bat so it would uh yeah we can record just ourselves i mean it's not like we don't do this very often but i i'd also like to you know point out that at least we got to make the big dave reference there that was really yes i'm really excited to do that that was uh that was a good episode i hope everyone uh hasn't been

enjoying that in the last week. That was our second two-hour one, too. I didn't even realize it until we got off. I was like, Jesus, that was another two-hour, 20-minute something or other. Can't keep doing that. We're capping this one at 45 minutes. Sorry, Steve. No problem with me.

I'm kidding. We've never ever done timestamps no did anyone get a chance to watch any of the YouTube videos in the last couple weeks I did actually yeah which one did you watch Steve I watched the Sam Selleck one like

maybe an hour ago me too yep same yeah all right well what what's your thoughts on the video and then Sam Selleck like maybe an hour ago. Actually me too. Yep. Same. Yep. All right. Well, what, what's your thoughts on the video? And then Sam Selleck as a whole, I guess.

Um, I think it was an interesting approach just, uh, trying to figure out how the heck he's, you know, rising so quickly. And he seems like an odd character where he's just like, well,

not even odd. It's like, he's so stereotypical like you know just jim bro that is just having a good time that it makes it like refreshing kind of like the throwback to uh like omar and uh like silent mike back in the day kind of gives you the uh the jim mcd vibes yeah yeah i haven't had a chance to really watch too much of sam's stuff uh i you know watched a few minute intro video i was like i don't know as not a bodybuilder like i could care less about anything bodybuilding related like you know

the power in the world but i don't give a fuck about bodybuilding in any way shape or form um but it was cool like tanner's little wrap-up video i don't know that fuck about bodybuilding in any way, shape or form. Um, but it was cool. Like Tanner's little wrap up video. I don't know that it motivated me to go watch any of his stuff or anything, but, uh, listening live on the episode last night. Uh,

so the episode that'll be coming out, I guess the day before this airs, uh, Tanner, like what, watch watching Tanner's library action to be like, yeah, the last time I looked,

he had 500,000 Instagram followers and And he looked again a week later. So it was like 900 and 2,000. So Tanner's exuberant reaction to this kid doubling his Instagram followers almost was pretty cool to see live. I actually know, I knew of Sam just before we all started talking about him. From what I can gather, I mean, if I had to give my own kind of why people are liking

him, I'm not going to watch his videos. That's just 20 minutes of my day that I could be doing literally anything else with. But to see somebody just genuinely talking about, I'm going to the gym. This is the pump I'm going to get.

This is my food. Too many influencers now, actually, I was going to make something today. I'll probably still post it on my quote side. And it's just, there's too much ragging on other people. There's too much, my haters think I can't do it. Or going to the war stuff. The let me tell you why this person's wrong. Those types of influencers, those.

My favorite word on the podcast. Oops. Those guys that walk around in grocery stores telling you what's not healthy and is healthy like all these guys are so superficial they're so vain they're obviously grifters that i can absolutely see why somebody like sam comes in and he's just like let's go to freak you pump look at that look at look at these arms look at when i do that like i can see why people just suddenly into that yeah because you know we're so saturated with the other crap and you know me being the fan of the anti-influencer influencer right you know that's even how i kind of model a lot of my thoughts i can see it

am i gonna do anything with it no but anyway that's my opinion on the thing i barely know anything about because that's what podcasts are that's a fair take um what so i was kind of frustrated last week we didn't get a chance to talk about because we we we ended up uh reporting on last wednesday so every time we report on wednesday we miss their we typically will miss their youtube video that week so two weeks ago youtube video was the hundred hundred thousand dollar commercial. Oh yeah. So that one,

I actually really enjoyed just because I'm a, you know, obviously he was clearly reading off some sort of Google docs or Google spreadsheets and, you know, he didn't just pull his numbers out of his ass. So like, I'm always,

always appreciative of like details in that aspect. So, you know, I really enjoyed that. He, at the end, he was like, yeah,

well, they came up with like 86, but I plan on buying this, this, like, yeah, we're looking at it for $86, but I plan on buying this, this, this, this, and this. That'll clearly put us over $100,000. I definitely enjoyed that video. That was his excuse to immediately spend $14,000 just to put himself over the edge.

Like he needed it. Can't be a liar. I didn't watch that one because I actually, like I said, time is money. And money is time. When we were at the Lift Hard, Live Easy on the Sunday morning, he was talking about that Elite FTS 45 degree hyperextension. And so it was like, at that time, he was kind of hemming and hawing whether or not he was going to buy it. Then it was like, that's on the list. All right, we're doing it now.

I really hope that having Big Caden on the podcast right before that and him calling Tanner out to buy one helped push over just that little bit to actually get it on their wish list. Oh, yeah. Well, good. Now Big Caden can finally get strong.

Yeah. Seeing his performance actually get it on their wish list. Oh, yeah. Well, good. Now Big Kaden can finally get strong. Yep. Yeah. He's, you know, seeing his performance, it looks hard to be the classic. He needs all the help he can get. Even though I think he totaled like 600 pounds more than me, but that's okay. I think he went for like a 430 bench or something like that. Oh, Jesus. I can't even squat 430.

I actually do like that joke. And sometimes I say it to Morgan when I'm like, I might need a deadlift bar. And she's like, why? And I was like, well, then I can finally get strong. Like now, now I can finally get strong because I bought this one piece of equipment. Well, yeah, that's how buying equipment works, right?

You just need that one piece. Yeah, just the only thing I'm missing. I need Atlas stones so that I can finally get strong. Right. She's not buying it. She's smarter than I am. Well, yeah, she didn't have to buy it as long as you buy it. But I think the Atlas stones are strong.

Like, strongman stuff like that, when you're doing odd lifts and you're lifting something completely non-conventional, like, ironically, would make you stronger. Because you're only odd lifts and you're lifting something completely non-conventional like ironically would make you stronger like like because that's you're you know you're only gonna get so strong doing a barbell movements like you're gonna get good at doing barbell movements whereas you start doing some odd odd lifts like that you're gonna like build muscle and endurance in places that you're not unless you're doing these odd lifts with a lot of the strongman stuff though like atlas stones sandbags all those medleys and stuff it's still a lot of the strongman stuff though, like Atlas stones, sandbags,

all those medleys and stuff, it's still a form of a deadlift. That's why every strongman has a really good deadlift. It's just like, oh, today we're not going to deadlift, but we're going to do stones and you still have to deadlift the stone up.

You always have that really strong back just from every movement is either you know you're working your log you're you're doing you know log cleans or something like that it's a form of a deadlift at some point whether it's you know lower intensity or not yeah that's why when we were playing out the stone speaking of the sunday morning when we were playing with the stones yep i still wanted to do it but i just knew that like i was not ready not warmed up or anything but i feel like it might be good no but my my first pick my first pick of the stone i was like

oh my god i am so stiff from yesterday yeah well i didn't even lift and i just walked up and i think i did the 120 and i was like yeah i'm try the 180. Yeah, that's a big jump. I think he fills that void. There really wasn't anything between that jump that's crazy. Not that I was going to bother looking for. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha.

So speaking of the Massonomics podcast, looks like we should bring back an old segment where we rate last week's episode. Let's have at it. Keith, did you happen to get through it? Yeah. No. I think I actually...

Yeah. So I listened to that entire episode live. So it was almost frustrating because I didn't have anything to do on my long drive out to Albany this week. But yeah, I really enjoyed it. I always enjoy the full two-hour-ish episodes where I'm just sitting there listening along. I think by the time they got off, there's only like three. The live recording will start out with 10, 12

people, and it pretty much will always end with three or four at the most, typically. It was kind of cool to be one of those last hangers-on. I don't know if I would have given it a higher rating or a lower rating if Steffi was on, but I like the boys. So since I like the boys, you know, since our sisters are doing a good job over there, we'll go ahead and give it a five out of five JDs for last week's, uh, two man show. The fair rating.

What say you big Steve? So I really enjoy when, when they don't have a guest. So like it was a solid episode. I'd give it a five out of five it was exactly what what i wanted and it kept me excited enough so that i watched i listened to most of it on sunday night where normally i wait until monday morning to listen so that's fair it really caught my attention um i actually did listen to it all and actually like i stopped tuning in live if i have to be honest with you um because i prefer to listen and i find that if i've already listened i either uh

catch stuff i didn't hear the first time which is fine but i find myself kind of just getting impatient so i actually don't join live very often anymore especially if i'm working late and i have to like try and like mess with discord while I'm driving home or something. And that's just, and most of the Wednesdays I do. Um, so I listened to the whole thing.

Um, really enjoy, uh, really enjoyed all the, the freaky pump talk. Cause that's a really funny phrase. Um, so I'm going to give it a five.

I think we're going to settle on a five for that one, guys. So, Big Kevin, I know you don't have anything to do this weekend, so go ahead and keep those spreadsheets up to date with our ratings for us, please. I know, yeah, he's got to do that. He doesn't have anything else in his hands.

He's not doing it. Well, Big Steve, do you have kids else in his hands. He's not doing it. Well, like, yeah. Big Steve, do you have kids? I have two. I've got one daughter that's three and a half and another daughter that's one and a half. Like, most fathers wouldn't like to admit this.

And I'm probably, somebody's's gonna get mad at me for saying it but honestly for the first like six months of an infant's life the dad is just there to help the mom we can change the diapers we can get up but if she's like breastfeeding and if she's like you know the primary caregiver there's not a ton that we can accomplish especially if she's fully like fully breastfeeding right yeah we we had some interesting uh so like my my older daughter wouldn't latch so it was always bottle fed so she was an interesting case and she was a preemie so she was like four pounds so it was like you know she's absolutely tiny where you're trying to feed her so yeah and she woke up every two or three hours so

my wife was kind of going insane with her the first you know year yep but i mean i it's not to say that dads don't do anything no but like i got twice as much sleep as my wife so exactly yeah it's it's unfortunately you know it's just all on them and that's why we respect the hell out of them um so that was last week's episode keith in a commercial gym i cannot wait to hear about that i wasn't it's god like so i do train a fair amount when i'm in a commercial gym when i'm on the road i just haven't had to do it in like six months basically so i feel like every time i'm at the gym like are the broccoli heads multiplying like or just like this like the new generation of lifters that are just like so there's there's three combo racks in this gym i

go to in the same group of like six or seven people. We're just like there the entire time. Like just, just like, I didn't even get a chance to like, I couldn't have got them on a combo rack if I had tried. So it's just, I don't know. I'm very spoiled and having my gym. So even when I do get a commercial gym, even a really good commercial gym, it's still kind of like, all right, i want to go home now but uh just having the access to a couple pieces of equipment like one thing like this is kind of like surprising to hear like the one thing i almost always go to use a commercial gym when i'm there is the uh a uh caveries in a in a tibia machine if they have

one just because i've got i've got really bad uh ankles like i broke my right ankle like three times and sprained it another it another 20. Getting just basically really good deep stretches and mobility work via the seated caveries is one thing I will refuse not to do when I'm at a commercial gym. The only other thing I

want to comment on that is this gym has always had really good powerlifting equipment and stuff, but for some reason they recently got rid of a couple of Texas deadlift bars and replaced them with fucking Rogue deadlift bars. And I was just like, what? No federation uses this bar. It's not that it, yes. Is it whippier than a power bar?

Sure, clearly, because it's skinnier, but it's not as wide as a Texas deadlift bar, which is the standard. It's just odd to me. Unless you got them super cheap, it's just really weird to drop money on a Rogue Ohio deadlift bar when there's other options that are actually used in powerlifting meets.

That's my little rant on that. I see. No Chronicles like Tommy's got? No. I have an SSB at every gym I go to so it's not like, ooh, an SSB. That's why I said

the pick in the Discord of my three that I picked up now. Oh, nice. Why? That's a lot. I found there was somebody on I think it was on Marketplace that had the

Krapensek one. So I just wanted the really old vintage one. I hate that. I really don't like that one. I don't know. Well, it was only 50 bucks. Oh, yeah. That's good. I sold mine for 100. Yeah. And then there was another one that was an Elite FTS. So it was like that one was 150 and it was

the same guy. So I was like, all right. 200 bucks. I can do that. If $150 and it was the same guy so I was like alright $200 I can do that if you can drop it off at my parents farm like I'll give you an extra $20 for delivery for those two just so I have them just in case oh yeah it's like $500 for the SSB on the used market even so that's a great deal

yeah so it was like one of those where it was like it was so cheap that even if I'm not going to use them because i just bought the uh uh ss yoke when it was on sale like last black friday or something like that because i had sold my uh transformer bar i had the version three and i couldn't stand it i'm not a transformer fan so i i sold that for a bear squat and I had the one SSB and then I was like, all right, this is too good of a deal not to buy them. So I just,

you know, made it an investment. Transformer bar is Kabuki. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. They've had like,

they've had like five iterations of it. Like, so the brand new one might be better. Like, I don't know. Like I still think the handles are way too long for a guy like me that has a pretty big stomach so when i'm squatting with an ssb that has like you know elongated handles like i literally have nowhere to put my arms because the handles are just hitting hitting my stomach like and i've had very bad luck for that

and i just i don't like the the adjustments on it like i couldn't find one that felt like an ssb or like the low bar like it claims so i don't know i borrowed i think i had like the version three maybe i borrowed from my coach for like a month and i was like yeah i'm not dropping like 600 bucks on this at all give me my ssb i i had the the version three two and it was like my my neighbors they were in eighth grade at the time they came over during covid and wanted to learn how to lift and one one of them was like 95 pounds soaking wet and like the padding is too thin so that like anyone that's really short it the bar is like almost falling off in between them because they're they're too small of a person

so that's why especially with long handles too it was like you know it was just a horrible bar for somebody that's that small you know five foot 95 pounds they need a different bar so it's just like all right i i need something that i know everyone can use so the the ss yoke now how do you like the Krepensek? Because I'm probably going to piss a lot of people off. I hated the idea of not having hands. I get that you should be able to hold onto the SSB just to have it sit on your body,

but my hands need to do something. I don't necessarily need to push it up or pull it down. My hands need to be on the fucking bar, and the Krepensek, there was just nowhere to put it, and it just really I did not like it, but it's a really popular bar because we think it was the first ssb yep yeah i i honestly haven't used it yet because i went from uh a cycle of ssb to giant cambered bar and so i'm still on on my third week of uh giant camber. So I haven't had a chance to use any of the other new bars that I have.

I will be curious. DM me once you use it. Let me know how you like it. But we'll probably move on from the sets and reps. I think Joey fell asleep on us. I really liked when you said you don't know what to do with your hands because it's from Talladega Nights, right? Talladega Nights.

I don't know what to do with my hands. The car handled real good. You've seen Talladega Nights, though, right, Keith? I have, yeah. It's just Anchorman you've opted out of watching? The superior of the two? I did not love Talladega Nights. I think that's a 5 out of 10 for me.

But I don't know. I think at this point, it's so quotable, though. It stupid that it's quotable i don't like stupid comedy like i don't oh i don't i like i like i don't like a lot of stupid comedy like i i guess so if i guess it's more of a if i saw it when i was young and it was just like something that instilled in me i was like cool but i'm not gonna go out of my way to watch stupid comedy now like like dumb and dumber is okay and like i grew up watching that movie, but I don't think it's holy grail by any means.

To go back on your first point, the first half of Talladega Nights is great. The movie is essentially destroyed after Sacha Baron Cohen comes. Yeah. When he shows up in the bar, they have the whole little fight where he breaks his arm

the movie leading up to that point is incredible and i don't think i can name a single line after that point except for if you don't chew big right but that may even be before that so like yeah i'll give you that um i i used to be able to quote the entire movie oh i've nope i can tell you right now after i love crepes nothing like i couldn't even tell you what happens in the movie i think there's a dog somewhere um the guy from conan o'brien i think is in it he plays sasha baron cohen's husband yep yeah like it sure of that stuff happens. They want to just train Komodo dragons in Sri Lanka.

Oh, and I like to party. I like to party is actually the... Why do you want to control the volume and the music at the same time? Because I like to party. That's the funniest response to anything. Hey, want to come over and gi joes i i would challenge that you don't like stupid comedy i don't know like what do you what's what's high level comedy to you i'd have to i'd have to consort with the spreadsheet

high level comedy i like shakespeare what you'reo about nothing. I think my favorite comedy of that era, like 90s, whatever, Out Cold is probably one of my favorite. Out Cold is really underrated. Out Cold I would put above all those other movies, honestly. I don't think I've seen that.

Oh, it's great. It's the first movie that Zach Galifianakis was in, and it's weird because he he plays a more serious role and his brother in the movie pig pen is essentially every character that zach galifianakis has played ever since he uh fucks the fucks the hole in the hot tub gets his dick stuck in it i think that was great yeah not stupid, though. That's definitely not stupid. But I was also 14, I think, the first time I saw that movie. So I think a lot of it is timing.

So I think a semi-relevant quote that someone told me once that is kind of along those lines is you don't miss a place, you miss a time. So you can correlate that in movies.

Would all of these movies we're talking about hold up today for everyone? Probably, but some people will be like, yeah, that definitely doesn't hit like it did when I was a kid. Or if you watched it now and didn't see it as a kid, you'd be like, this is stupid. But since you did see it as a young adult,

it just instilled in you that, hey, this movie i don't know so i i think i take kind of a different perspective i i almost so like you you know when you always used to have cable and you'd have these certain movies that you'd just like you'd see that they were on and then the next thing you know you watched the entire movie from wherever the starting point was where you noticed it yeah so like i try and treat all the streaming services like that where it's like all right this is a movie that i haven't seen in 10 years but i'm gonna pretend like it's on fx right now and i'm gonna just randomly watch it and see if it holds up and most of the time it doesn't but it's fine because it, it's that movie that you think, you know,

okay, this is a totally mediocre movie, but it's going to be fine. Yeah. I don't need to see that again. I get that. All right. Well,

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everybody how they can find you on instagram and discord if you'd like yeah so i am big steve waffle iron jim on discord and just waffle iron jim on instagram gotcha well yeah everybody go follow waffle iron jim on discord and let's keep growing this community of crew that we're all fan of and according to my uh my squat rack the chalk on it says that it's a fictitious training center so what's fictitious the training or the center both that's fair that's fair steve what uh what brought you to massonomics buddy give me that and tell us your uh entry to this whole thing that we're in love with yeah so there was there was this other podcast that jim mcd was on and in preparation for this i was trying to figure out when i started

listening to bassonomics and it turns out it was episode 90, which was December of 2017. Right before Mark Bell's whatever he does now. He does. He does. He does power. He does power project now, which I don't I don't know anyone that's ever listened to more than half an episode of power project. But I think everyone's listened to, you know, most. Yeah. Yeah. That guy. Yeah. ever listened to more than half an episode of power project but i think everyone's listened to you know most of them yeah yeah that guy yeah because i i got really into my first podcast was

the power power cast and you know i went through all of the all the backlog with that and then it was like as it was ending it was like all right i need to find something new so in 2017 i had just gotten into power lifting and i was like all right i gotta listen to something else and i searched for like lifting podcasts besides that one and it was like world's strongest podcast and i'm like i don't know how that works but okay and that that's where i picked up and just really got into it ever since then. So I'm actually really jealous of that because I was like, well,

unlike you, when that, when power cast ended, I was just kind of floating in the wind for a couple of years before I found my home at massonomics. So be probably one of the few people that were able to make that smooth transition because at that time massonomics was like, I don't know,

not huge in 2017. That was cool you were able to find them. Yeah. I don't remember. I couldn't figure out when I got my first shirt from them, but it was back when it was basically

only the beer parody shirts. Bench Heavy I have. I've got the Buddy Light one. I've got a bunch of the originals. I initially started with trying to get everything besides I had missed out on the

Mastodonomics numero uno. I was trying to keep up with everything up until a certain point where it was like all right i financially can't can't afford to keep up with this anymore my dresser can't hold any more massonomic shirts like that's i have an entire drawer just for them well and so like the high school kids started coming over with COVID in 2020. My neighbors were like, hey, we always see you doing weird stuff outside, lifting weights and stuff. Can we come over and work out with you?

It was like, yeah, sure. That's when I was like, all right, if they're working hard, medium uh free or whatever it was with your purchase of whatever the tanner special yeah exactly so i i would just give give one of the neighbors one of the shirts that's cool so some of the some of the shirts that i wish i bought for myself i actually gave away to them in a smaller size like the uh the bench in 315 the uh the neighbor that was 95 pounds has that one and i'm i'm still like pissed i'm just like damn it i should have gotten one for myself too yeah so it's that's kind of cool you're able to do that so you said that you know only the ones that were uh working hard were able to get some of your old shirts so you know i guess that's a really good time to you know only the ones that were uh working hard were able to get some of your old shirts so you know i guess that's a really good time to you know not be hardly working yeah yeah exactly

now now was there one that you wish you had got that you decided like in that time where you're like i can't do this anymore and now you're like two years later going god i wish i had that shirt i i mean definitely the bench in 315 was one. And then up until the 50-hour sale, the blue Jefferson deadlift shirt, I bought one for one of the kids that came over and lifted weights over the summer. And at the meet, I was like, I should have kept it for myself because I have the black one, but the blue just really pops. I was like, I should have gotten one. Then for the

50-hour sale, it was on sale. I was like, yep, that's happening. Nice. The Bench in 315 definitely is one of my favorites. Yep. Speaking of favorites, what is the favorite meet you've done and why is it lift hard live easy classic and tell us about your whole weekend experience yeah so that that was uh

that was a cool experience because it was like like i've met big eddie because he's he's been crazy enough that with his work you know he if he's an hour away it's it's no problem for him so it was like i knew him and then we had the um just uh instagram uh group chat with the um crew wolf pack which is all of us with uh eddie scantz emmet uh matt sesney and dylan the president of north dakota so i i knew everyone but i've only met eddie before and then uh you know i i meet scantz in the airport as everyone's over at pounders and we're just like ah damn it we don't get to meet anyone anyone yet and then it was like friday we get to see everybody and it's like oh crap everyone just gets it

so it was it was amazing seeing how like the discord is like everyone is who they seem to be in the discord so it was it was a crazy time that that was by far the best like the the only other meet and we can get into a little bit later that even comes close is like after my leg injury uh i had a meet where i came back and i had signed up as soon as i was cleared to to put weight on my leg again. I was able to, like I signed up thinking I was going to squat the bar and deadlift the bar. And that was it. Just seeing if I could do that kind of thing.

And I ended up doing pretty well at me. It was my first meet with wraps, but that's the only other meet that comes even remotely close to the lift, hard, live easy, where it's like the lift hard, live easy was a tailgate party. Yeah. You know,

everybody, nobody's taking anything too seriously. Nobody's, nobody's Jocelyn for, you know, Oh, I'm going to come in first. I'm going to come in second in this,

this division. And yeah, you know, so it was just the, it's a bunch of friends just hanging out. And it reminded me of like after high school, one of my friends had like, he called it the man lift competition. So it was like strong man in his backyard.

And it was just like five or six guys that got together, you know, 20 year olds just hanging out, flipping tires and pulling cars in the backyard. And this was exactly like that where it was like with fire. So it was that much better. I mean, you can always just light a car on fire and deadlift it. Yeah, I mean,

we got to save room for next year, right? And I think he had mentioned like there wasn't anyone you didn't know. I would say that still like even at the zoo, there was still like 25% of the people that did the meet i'm like i don't think i talked to you or know you but the cool thing is like if we all make it out next year like you're definitely going to be like okay i saw you last year didn't talk to you i'm not gonna point to talk to you

this year yeah i feel like there'll be a lot there'll be a lot less strangers next year basically everyone should be more you know open oh by then we'll have everybody on the podcast yeah hopefully and like some of the guys that like you knew and you've talked to like like i i'm a little bit more introverted where it comes to like if i haven't had like as many conversations with you like in dms and stuff i don't know you as well so it's like i i probably should have talked to a few more people more than i did and it's just like ah damn it afterwards it's like i i should have talked to and been a little bit more outgoing with with a bunch of people where it's like you didn't have time to to break the ice with some people you know and then there was there was no time and i've said it a bunch of

times there's i showed up the friday night went to tanner's i was there at the meet i was all day i was at the zoo i was at breakfast and there are still people right now that i'm just like i wish i had more time with that person but there was like 60 of us well and so at at tanner's house, I still remember this and I still regret this. So I was like, it was like the most awkward, like starstruck when Joey comes walking in. And as soon as I see him, he's like walking off the patio and I just go, Big Keith. And I'm like, oh, you idiot. That's Joey. That's hysterical.

I just see Joey. Joey's like, did Joey actually catch that? No, I just see Joey and Joey's like did Joey actually catch that or no I don't think I did oh that's great I think Joey's just like so confused and just like walks by and I'm just like I hate myself

that might be the funniest if not my favorite story I think I've ever heard on this episode of this podcast I wasn't expecting to be like the funniest if not my favorite story i think i've ever heard on this episode on this podcast so that because it was like i i wasn't expecting to be like nervous or anything like that and then i i always do that where it's like you know you get a little bit of anxiety before meeting somebody that you should already know kind of thing and then it's just like you botch it and the person and it's like ah this is awkward sometimes my brain does that it

compartmentalizes something in the wrong part and you're just like yeah that's not keith don't say keith keith right like now i can see that um but you did have one of uh i think my favorite things at this meet was the hawaiian shirt tell us like give us anybody that doesn't know, give them the story on that. Okay. So Eddie messaged about Hawaiian shirts in, in the, uh, Wolfpack group chat. And as soon as he did that,

so it was similar to the situation with, uh, like cardboard cutouts where I needed to be the first. So like with the cardboard scans, I just stole the, uh, you know, an image of scans off of his Instagram and it was so low resolution,

but I just went with it anyway. So it's a horrible cutout, but it makes it that much better that it's the six foot one. And, uh, so with the Hawaiian church, as soon as Eddie did that and I was just like, I can't let anyone beat me to this.

I need to just go with it. And it was like 35 bucks. So I take the, the image of Tommy from, I think it was, was it bar bend or one of those other podcasts that don't exist? The image from him being on one of those, I stole that. And then as Tanner was doing the Dinny Stones, it was a video that I just screenshotted him at the top with his face all red.

And so I did a screenshot of that and put the two of them onto the hawaiian shirt and hope for the best and the resolution actually came out better than i expected so i made sure that it was you know nice and bright colored and made sure that i wore that the entire weekend and for 30 38 bucks i couldn't couldn't not do that now how did you uh did you was it just like something you ordered off the internet because like i guess my biggest question is like so you you upload these two images but how does it like auto populate to put it like 20 different images of it or was that just a thing on amazon that like it's like a parody shirt like that so it was it was like gecko customs or something like that and so it it automatically placed all of the images wherever yeah so it was just dumb luck that

it came out as well as it did nice yeah because i would have been tedious to like like drag 30 images and like just keep duplicating that yeah no and strategically put them into place. I am not tech savvy at all. It was just uploading the images and hoping for the best and it turned out way better than I expected. I assume they have an algorithm that does that. Yeah.

They take your image. I get them on Instagram. Get your dog's face on your... Yeah, exactly. I think the site was Gecko Customs. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the one. Well, they don't sponsor us, so we don't need to know. Yeah.

Well, I've looked into other things for this coming year, but I'm still working on... I have ideas, but I haven't... Don't say too much on here, because someone will snake them from you, so careful. No, that have ideas, but I haven't. Don't, uh, don't say too much on here because someone will snake them from you. So careful. No,

that's, that's fine. Cause I, I couldn't figure out how to do it quite yet. And I, I talked to big Jen about it. I think she's the only one that knows my, my next,

my next idea, but I, I haven't gone through with it yet. So, uh, well, I, I'd like to read a question from scant if i could

all right you okay with that keith yeah yeah all right so scant wants to know what was it like when you were kicked back and watching the massonomics podcast on youtube after just getting back from tanner's, eating Taco John's. Was that almost too much saturation of Massonomics? Like if only you guys got stuck on Brock the Rock while doing it. Right? Cloud nine. That's all you can say. That entire weekend was like,

everything was everything you could imagine if you wanted to like schedule a vacation to you know western northeast south dakota it was it was everything you could dream of it's like the this it's not storybook land it was massonomics land like we wouldn't get to live all of our dreams from all of these silly things we've heard about on the internet. Yeah. And, oh, it was, I went to Taco John's with Scant and, oh, Big Ryan, Jacked and Ginger. And so we make our orders at Taco John's. I forget what I got. I got the nachos and something else.

And Big Ryan's just like, wait, what are you ordering? Because it was like $25 or something like that. And he's like, I thought I could eat a lot. And I just inhale everything. And he's like, holy, how did you do that? So I was feeling it afterwards, though. Olay your way to the washroom yeah so we heard you grew up on an apple orchard as a kid uh how was that how was that uh is that like a family or a big orchard and family yeah so my family has been in Connecticut forever. So since 1639.

So my dad, my uncle, a bunch of my cousins, my brother, all live on the same farm that's been in the family for, I think my brother's son is the 12th generation now. Jeez. So, yeah, my family doesn't move. They're very stubborn. But but uh no it was good we like we looking back we had everything like we had a 50 by 100 barn where for a while it was a full court basketball court when you didn't have like tractors and stuff like that in there

and eventually it was only half court but my my grandfather was also a little bit eccentric so it was like he uh he randomly built like a 20 foot climbing wall so we would we would do a lot of dumb stuff like uh we tried to make a zip line we the climbing rope that we'd use for the climbing wall we tied to a forklift and stretched out the the rope with the forklift and tried to zipline into the forklift not our best idea nice soft landing yeah exactly um my my brother used to pole vault in high school and we had like the, the giant hay bales for like the hay mazes in the fall. So like a lot of agritourism and stuff. And he would try and pole vault onto on top of that.

And when that didn't work out, cause it's like, if you miss you're falling 15 feet. So instead of onto a forklift. No, no. Luckily we were smart. I know. I know. Awayklift? No, luckily we were smart enough to get the forklift away from there. Then we tried he put his pole vault pit

on the end of the dock that went into our pond. The same problem with if you're not landing forward in front of the dock, sometimes when it was, it wasn't a big pond. It was maybe a hundred feet by a hundred feet. So like, and eight feet deep. So in the summer when there's like a drought, there's only a couple inches next to like where the dock was.

And he would get a running start. And, uh, sometimes his pole would, you know, bend sideways and he'd be, you know, eight or 10 feet up in the air above the dock and the docks,

you know, three feet above where the water is. And there's only six to 12 inches of water that he's landing in some mud. And you couldn't help, but just laugh just because you know it's like sucks to be you yeah that would be terrifying yeah luckily I'm not that

coordinated so that wasn't my issue so I'll admit I'm a little ignorant on just apple orchards in general so I'm curious does one orchard how many different variations of apples do you have in one orchard or do you just do you get it or just known for one apple and you just only grow that one

apple no so you have a you have a bunch so a lot of it was like the tourism so you would have like all the schools from the local towns you'd have like uh kindergarten through you know third grade would go apple picking in the fall. So you would want your Red Delicious and stuff like that that holds onto the trees a little bit later in the season. So you can attract people more throughout the year.

Yeah, so you have your Macintosh and stuff like that that early Macs, late August, early September, they're going to be ripe and they're a pretty good apple but like they don't keep as well they get kind of like mushy like if you try and keep them as like a storage apple all the flavor all the crunch to them just kind of like disappears so you want to have a lot of variety and then the macawin or a lot of people will call them

macoon or whatever uh they were like your your general all-purpose apple that like everyone likes they're they're always good for eating or baking or anything courtland were always good for for baking and so you had a little bit of everything but uh okay originally my uh my grandfather had a dairy farm and in the 70s his barn burnt down and you know half of his cows were you know burned alive so that's when it was like all right we're done with that we're gonna go with an apple orchard and not have any issues so so if you had to gun to your head what's the one apple you're going to eat the rest of your life you're going to only have one apple

I mean by sheer taste not like take the this one grows good this season this one grows good that season take all your knowledge of that out of it what's one apple you want to eat the rest of your life honestly I'd say it's probably overrated but i'd say honey crisp is is the the new you know it's got that crunch but it's also sweet like a gala or

you know something a little bit you know more flavorful but it's it's overrated because it is better than most. I have one acre now, and I'm up in Summers, Connecticut. I always buy, I'll do one or two trees every year. I have two honey crisp trees that I planted three years ago, and I've got nothing out of them. I've got two Jonathans. I forget what the other two are that i have and then like six pair trees and out of all 12 trees i got one pair this year and that was it i think uh golden delicious is my favorite apple but i don't i don't see them a ton

and they do they're expensive yeah my kids like ambrosia and uh do you guys i don't know if you ever ended up picking them up from costco but they had a thing called grapples okay and they were honestly just apples that were somehow infused with the scent of grapes interesting it was wild it smelled a little like you know fake grape right like the the the inflated balls you get from costco or from walmart or whatever that just had like this it scented like grape or like a grape marker yeah but it was it was weird they can do wild things with like grafting all kinds of like yeah even like sweet corn where they have like the, like everything's so modified now that like you could spray like roundup over

corn and it won't affect it at all. And it's just like, I don't know what you guys are doing with that stuff, but it's, uh, it's crazy what they can do with, with food and technology. Yeah, that all sounds very dangerous.

And speaking of dangerous, you have a snowmobile accident story we're dying to hear. Let's hear about it. Yeah. So in January of 2018, my dad decided at like five o'clock, it was getting getting dark that he was going to go out for a rip on his snowmobile and the way the farm works there's like the wagon trails for wagon

rides in the fall that goes alongside this river the Brantford River and he decides he's going to go down the bank and go along the river instead of like on the river instead of on the trail right next to it and so his snowmobile fell through the ice and so he calls my brother and i i'm down there just visiting there's like 18 inches of snow my brother used to fight uh mma so one of

his friends had free tickets to uh mohegan sun the uh the casino and so we us and one of our buddies were just going to go to the casino and we're just about to leave and he gets the call from my dad and he's like hey can you help you know pull the snowmobile out i'm stuck in the river down down in the back so my brother and i jump on my my mom's snowmobile drive down there and we uh walk out onto the onto the river and i go to deadlift the, and apparently I pulled conventional when I should have pulled sumo. So, uh, the, the snowmobile track fell through the ice. So I, I'm standing on the ice shelf. It's, you know, a foot and a half above the, uh, above where the, uh, snowmobile track is stuck so i'm lifting that that back end up my brother's lifting the front end and my dad's like steering the uh the skis and apparently my dad had given

it a little bit of gas to try and like get it to crawl back up onto the ice and as he does that and i'm like 230 at the time and my feet break through the ice as he's goosing it and it has the metal studded track so the metal started track as i fell onto the ground of you know the bottom of the river there was you know because it was so cold it was like zero degrees fahrenheit so i don't know what that is and uh celsius like negative 10 probably i'm just guessing but uh so the river is normally only like three feet deep it it was like a trickle it's like three inches of of water but i land on you know the rocks and stuff like that and the track lands on my right leg and so the track's spinning because my dad was trying to get it to you know crawl back up onto the ice and so it the metal studs of the track uh ripped through my leg severed an artery and then we're starting to grind down on the bone

and i i'm just cursing like i'm just yelling like you know fuck fuck fuck and my dad's just like what's that crazy asshole doing like why why is he just yelling what the hell and as soon as my dad and my brother get over, I'm still holding the track, trying to keep it from digging further in. They shut the sled off, move it off of my leg, and as soon as I see my bone,

I look down, and you just see this white thing. As soon as I see that, I look away. And so as soon as that happens, I'm not helpful at all. I'm like laying down. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you go into shock and it's zero out. So I'm freezing to death. Like as the blood is just like freezing to the sled too and uh so i i'm not helpful at all i'm like well just leave me

here to die and uh i tell my brother uh go get your pickup truck or take me to urgent care and my brother's like you dumbass just stop doing anything just just don't do anything and so i i was lucky enough that he's he lifts too so uh he like lifts underneath my arms like underneath my armpits my dad gets my legs and they they carry me out of the snow up the riverbank my brother gets on on the other snowmobile that we came down on and he's holding my leg that's just like gushing blood and like you know drives with one hand like this and is you know drives up to the farm market where we're waiting for an ambulance so luckily you know we were where parents' house is and where the farm is.

It's like nine miles from Yale, New Haven hospital. So my brother gets me up to that, uh, to the parking lot. The ambulance meets us there. And, uh,

you know, it was like, I I'm an idiot. I'm like like instead of just staying calm you know i'm like hyperventilating and all this you know my i think when i eventually got to the hospital my body temperature was like 91 degrees and it was it was just a whole disaster where you know now my when they eventually uh you know they had to take a piece of my quad and move it down to my calf to reconnect they used a vein to reconnect the artery and uh so that was like two weeks later like hanging out in the hospital for two weeks waiting for this surgery. You know, you have four or five surgeries just to clean that that area out. But it was it was an interesting one because it was definitely the hardest thing that I've ever had to deal with.

And you told us that entire story with a smile on your face which is shows that you've been able to like not necessarily put it behind you but just like it's crazy how you've uh i i don't think i could have told that story happening to me without like breaking down every time telling because that was the most traumatic story i might have ever heard and i was like as you were talking about it like my leg sort of like i could like feel the fucking metal digging into my leg jesus so that's an intense... I put down my water and grabbed a beer during that because I was just like,

nope. Normally we'd go into Unpaid and Underrated directly after a story like that. Well, it's weird because it's like, you know, like I said, I was okay with, like, okay, well, I had a bad go of it.

I'm done. And then, like, as you're in the hospital, you have a decision to make where it's like, you can either be the pessimist and say, poor me, or you can say, okay, where do we go from here? Yeah. You can say, okay, where do we go from here? So that's where the whole... And honestly, as much as people knock social media, seeing all of the amputees and people that had it so much worse that have been able to overcome things. You see the kids that are an amputee that's skiing on one leg. I don't want to put my like i still have that leg but like i'm not putting in a ski boot like yeah that seems painful so like there's certain things where it's like i won't like i'm definitely a wuss compared to a bunch of other

people but like, you definitely have that decision of like, well, you can be an optimist or you can be a pessimist. So what are you, what are you going to choose? Like there's, there's no other option than just find the good in it,

you know? And that was like that, that injury forced me to learn a lot more about training. Cause like I was only in power lifting for six months before the injury happened. It was like I was hot shit. I think I'm doing so well. My first meet, I think I totaled like 1330. Then I went on small off for squat.

My squat went from like 430 up to 500. You think that you're going up this linear you know exponential growth and then the leg injury happened and then it was like okay i just want to walk again and it really forces you to think okay maybe this isn't you know we can take a step back and stop stop worrying about you know if this is strong or not and it's you know you take a day at a time what if you had to put a percentage on it like are you like what is the legs recovery look like like i mean this was like six years ago or whatever like that's where are you at right now so i was able to as soon as i was cleared to walk when i signed up for that other meet that I said was my second favorite meet, 16 weeks after I was cleared to put weight on that foot, I squatted 425 in wraps. So I was

like 80% in the first year. And then it took three years to deadlift the 600 that I got credit for in my second meet before the injury. Well, I didn't lock out. It was just the USAPL had bad record keeping. Yeah. So, well,

it was like, I knew I didn't deadlift 600, but I wanted to. Yeah. So it kind of ate me alive until 2020. But, uh, even,

uh, I think it was, I think it was in 2020. I went to uh khalil shahad has a uh conjugate seminar that he did down at the rack in atlanta and i got to meet like jacob ross and uh michael fahey and uh all these all these guys that know way more than me. My only credibility was this leg injury that I came back from. We do the seminar, and Michael Fahey from West Side vs. the World breaks out the jump mat. I jumped 28-1 on my first jump, and then it goes to shit,

and it's 26 afterwards. He's like, how the hell did that? You're not supposed to be able to jump with that. So I definitely learned a lot from, you know, forcing myself to want to get back to where I wanted to be. And I honestly,

I squatted in March. I did a USAPL meet. i squatted 518 where my best prior to the injury in 2017 was 501 hell yeah so it sounds like you got you're able to maintain or gain back you know all your strength and then some but what about like pain like do you have phantom pain i'm not phantom pain but like that's good you still gotta have some kind of residual like yeah so pain issues right so i i have three what are called hammer toes it's where the like the muscle is too weak so that the the tendons like shortened so my my toes look you know like little hooks and so you just put like a toe spacer on there but like if i walk more than six to eight thousand steps they get painful um if i'm dehydrated i notice it a lot more i get cramping a lot a lot more than most um thunderstorms i always thought that people like i say old people now but like 10 years ago when you would have like people in

their 30s and 40s complaining about like you know thunderstorms and uh like weather changes hurting them i always thought that was you know malarkey and then it was like oh no the the atmospheric pressure actually screws with your nerves and actually is something like you don't know what you don't know until you know you find out but uh other than that though it's not too bad where you know like when i first started trying to jump so i i got the uh just the nasm uh certified NASM certified personal trainer certificate just to see if I could in 2018 in like October and I started trying to jump and I started with like a six inch

like box that I tried to jump on and that was a big step and so now it's just like trying I made the stupid goal of trying to dunk now and I've been seeing that yeah so like i i've been able to do a dodgeball to a nine foot nine hoop but i haven't gotten

any further than that so far but i also tried like a dirty bulk this year and it it did not work so if you had to say who was the better better dunker between unpaid and underrated guests? Big Steve or Big Scott Dodds? Oh, Big Scott Dodds by far. Are you sure? If you guys are listening, it sounds like at the Live Hard, Live Easy 2024, with the crazy strongman stuff they've been talking about, like the horse match match and stuff i think we're gonna put a dunking contest absolutely there we go um no so when i when i was in college i only weighed like 180 and the closest i ever came to actually dunking was like an alley-oop where it was like

my my buddy rocco threw a pass to me and I almost like caught it and dunked it but I it wasn't an official dunk and so now I'm 50 pounds heavier or 60 pounds heavier and trying to get the dodgeball and it's just like I know I can't jump as high as I used to but at the the same time, this is still pretty good. But Scott Dodds actually was able to dunk. So he definitely wins. Well, I guess we could frame it as currently,

because I think Scott did say he's retired from dunking. So if he never dunks again, then all you get to do is just dunk once and you're golden. Yeah. Once he retires undefeated, you're just going to set the next crew record, right? record right right yeah i'm a little bit younger than him so i think i'm i'm still 33 right now so i've got time before submasters and i i think i think big scott might just be immortal i don't know sometimes like after having him on the podcast like we started talking more so because we're talking more i just keep seeing his stuff and like that what a freaky strong man he is and i

think scantz pointed it out right when scantz like scantz showed a video of him doing a keg lift and then you see scott and scott's throwing the keg and catching it before lifting it and scantz is like like, who is this man? That's when I started focusing on it. It's just like, Jesus, that's a strong dude. Sorry, wrong guest. I'm a big fan of Scott Dye.

He's also the number one. He's the first crew. Yes. Number one guy. He's the elder crew. During Lift Hard, Live Easy, I was trying to find out who was in front of me because I'm number five. And I know Grayson

is number four. And Big Dan Bell is number six. Oh, you beat Dan. She's two and three. I mean, it's not hard to find out you just ask tanner well so at the meet tanner said that one of the people in front of me is no longer a uh supporting member oh so so technically we all need updates, but wow. I wonder if we'll window now.

He probably, yeah. Knowing Tanner, Tanner's just pretty good about keeping stuff like that. I don't think he's going to like, you know, blow someone in like that or anything. So did he charge back?

We'll probably never know, honestly, unless it's who I think, unless it's who I think it is, but that sounds like the time lens off. So no, I don't know. Uh,

well on a, on a lighter note, do you want a little fuck do you want to do a little Fuck, Marry, Kill? Let's do it. He's on a lighter note. Fuck, Marry, Kill. It's all a similar theme here.

Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, FMK. And Druthers has to be done audibly. That's the rules. Them's the rules. Alright, I'm gonna go with...

I'm gonna actually marry Dragon Ball Super, fuck Dragon Ball Z, and kill Dragon Ball. Because Dragon Ball because Dragon Ball Super has so many new characters

that it has so much more potential um what did I say kill Dragon Ball because it had so much of the like 80s perviness that it's just like I don't have time for for Master Roshi nosebleeds

all the time. I'll always fuck with Dragon Ball Z. It's always good. I'm unfamiliar with all things Dragon Ball, so I't know if joey knows much about it but i'm gonna i'm gonna agree with you because i don't know shit about i don't know much about dragon ball i did get to watch a lot of dragon ball z um and dragon ball super like that's with um senior vegeta right like that's much later in the series where he's older?

Yeah, everyone's older. Like, they're grandparents. I did watch some of that one, but I don't have enough. I can name characters in Dragon Ball Z and some of the storylines and make the jokes about three episodes of leveling up. Yep. Yeah, you gotta watch the last, like, three episodes of leveling up. Yeah, you gotta watch the last three episodes

or five episodes of the Tournament of Power at Dragon Ball Super. The character Jiren that they created is just such a good character. He's the selfish one, but he's just way stronger than everyone else, so it's

phenomenal. Okay. Well, but he's just way stronger than everyone else so it's phenomenal ah okay well i would say there's one on here and i've just been dying to ask because sometimes we hear about silly nicknames on people yep and there's two of them on here that like they just don't make sense there was a lot of backstory i didn't want to copy and paste in it because i wanted to kind of just uh let let him and so these are from your buddy we they call you steamy so Vaughn where was it Stan? No. What was the

what the hell is his name? Stan's dad. Stan's dad does the steamy nicks where it's just him farting into the microphone. Into the steamy Nicks? Gotcha.

Yeah. Randy Marsh. Yeah, Randy Marsh has the band. And there's the two rednecks that are trying to save his underpants because he's just farting into the microphone. And you just see these creepy rednecks that are you know sitting outside the barn or whatever and they're just like we gotta save the britches we gotta save the britches and uh randy just goes by steamy nicks or steamy ray vaughn was the other character

that's doing the same thing and so my friend steve so we called him big steve because he's like six two and so i i was always little steve and he was big steve and then after a while after that episode of south park it was always he would always call me steamy just because of that that's funny okay and then the other one on here is hot dog puma oh the hot dog puma oh that's a classic one so the hot dog puma there was uh dollar hot dogs at the hartford wolfpack games for hockey it's anL team. And it was only the first period. And they would limit you to six hot dogs per purchase. How dare they? So what I would do was I went up and I ordered six hot dogs.

And then I go back to my seat and I house all six hot dogs. And then I would go back up to the concession stand and order six more hot dogs. And our buddy Rocco decided, Oh, I, I wonder how many you could actually eat. So he also,

the second time that I went and bought six hot dogs, I think he and somebody else, cause there was like six of us or eight of us that went, everyone bought like six of us or eight of us that went everyone bought like six hot dogs each we're already at 18 for you right at this rate yeah so i i ate i want to say it was 18 or 19 i couldn't finish 20. It took me the entire game. Then at the end of the game, I was so bloated.

That's where the hot dog puma came because I was just eating them so fast. You're so smooth at this. You're like the hot dog puma. At the end of the game, I'm so bloated. It was like $3 beers or something like that as you're at the game but i was so focused on on eating as many hot dogs as possible so like i was i wasn't like inebriated i was just just bloated. And so then we always... Have you guys seen the movie

The Ringer? Yeah. Where there's the one random character that just goes, when the fuck did we get ice cream? Did you get ice cream? Yeah. So at the end of the game at like 10 or 11 o'clock at night, Hartford's a really small city,

so it's like there's nothing open. And like the downtown area there's like just the the rink where you know the hockey games played and there's like a science center and some other stuff but there's there's really no like local like ice cream shops but we of course make the comment like all right i need to just walk around the block or something like that and then of, the ringer comes up and we're like, when the fuck can we get ice cream? So we go walking around Hartford

looking for ice cream. Just as I can walk and digest so that I can actually drive my car home safely. It sounds like this hockey arena hates you. Oh, yeah. Three dollar beers and dollar hot dogs like you probably smelled

so terrible the next day oh yeah well so even in high school i would do stupid stuff like that like the uh you know the little debbie iced honey buns yep yeah one random so back in high school so i graduated in 2008 and they were only 50 cents jesus so it was like you know you can buy lunch for two dollars and 25 cents or whatever it was or i could see how many honey buns i could eat and so like i had a bunch of other friends that were like yeah i'll pitch in for that i want to see how this goes so i i ate eight iced honey buns in a 25 minute lunch period and it was like 4 000 calories and 186 grams of fat just to see if i could for no reason like nobody else was competing with me or anything. And then I went back. It was a history class afterwards.

And the teacher was like, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you so... You're normally annoying in my class. Why is your head down? I was like, ate honey buns. That was a bad idea. Before you said how many you ate, I was thinking in my head. So they're iced honey buns that was a bad idea before you said how many you ate i kind of was like thinking my head how much so they're they're iced honey buns or regular ones definitely the

iced ones yeah i i the number in my head that i think i could eat in a sit-in without like puking would have been seven so yeah eight was right on par with that because i could uh i could definitely house i think six or seven without an issue uh maybe two for me like i don't eat i don't eat bread or buns or muffins or cake and shit like that so i'd probably give up on that immediately that's like my my guilty plight well a lot of things are my guilty yeah like dollar hot dogs now sounds like several years removed from this dollar hot dog, hot dog puma incident. What is your, did that like scar you for hot dogs for a while? Or were you like, were you there the next season fucking eating six hot dogs like normal?

I think that was the last hockey game I went to. Yeah, that makes sense. So yeah, so the hot dog scarred you. If you hadn't had that incident you probably would have been there next year yeah well it's weird because it's like it's an ahl team because it's like i'm not really a big hockey fan but it's fun because it's like you know nine dollars for tickets or whatever but like being in connecticut where we're an hour and a half it doesn't matter where you are in Connecticut.

You're within an hour to an hour and a half of either New York city or Boston. So like anyone that's a diehard fan is going to either watch the Rangers or the Bruins. So like Hartford's a weird area where it's like, you don't have professional teams because what's the point. Yeah, exactly. So like you only go to the ahl teams if if you get like free tickets from somebody else is like you know business or something like that or if you're just really bored and want to get a

group of guys together okay uh one more hot dog question i think we talked about it on the podcast before were they just like naked just hot dogs and bread oh yeah you didn't put anything on them no there's no time for that you're my favorite if you see they're like they're dipping it in the milk or the water just so they can go no that's so like that's over the top right well those those are professionals right i'm just an amateur i'm not gonna i'm not gonna insult i'm not gonna pretend like i'm better than i am like joey chestnut is what legends are Legends are made of, right? Well, because like in college, I was always because, you know, where my family had the farm. So it was like you're walking a lot on the farm. So I could never break 200 pounds.

So anytime I would go to any fast food restaurant, my rule of thumb was always pick the three biggest burgers and a chicken sandwich jesus and see how it goes but it's gonna cost 30 bucks back then yeah a little bit so like my bulking idea was like my mom would buy the groceries and so sometimes she would buy like bison so I'd do like a pound of bison I'd cook it up add like a dozen eggs and six slices of toast a bunch of cheese and just house that and then you feel like you're going to die for like three hours

and then you can go to the gym and go lift afterwards but like that was my idea to try and bulk it's really unhealthy I do like bison I don't think I've ever had bison with eggs was my idea to try and bulk. It's really unhealthy. I do like bison. I don't think I've ever had bison with eggs. Yeah, I definitely have never done bison and eggs.

Oh, yeah. Even ground beef, the eggs kind of attach to the ground beef. It's kind of like stoked up almost. Yeah. It's like a little scramble. It's greasy.

That certainly sounds greasy. Yeah. It's like a little scramble. It's greasy. That certainly sounds greasy. Alright. And if you guys come up with any more hot dog questions for Steve, send him his way. For the hot dog puma? For the hot dog puma.

I forgot about that nickname. Yeah, your buddy was pretty happy with that one Puma. I forgot about that nickname. Yeah, your buddy was pretty happy with that one. Letting me know about that. Who was that? Was that Rocco or was that my brother? Whoever you sent me on Instagram. Oh, okay. Yeah, that was my brother

actually. Yeah, okay. I wasn't sure. I'm impressed that he remembered that. Yeah, I feel it's always like I feel like I almost neglect some of the people that DM me all the information. But usually I'm like a lot of times I'm working on two weeks at a time for my show notes. So it's just for our show notes. So it's just like I'm struggling to keep track of like who this person is answering a question for. So it's just like a lot of times I'll leave someone read or not necessarily on red but like i'll see that they message me the response back but i but i'll try not to i might

not look at it until like like until i've already recorded this episode so now i can write next week's like as soon as this is over i can like go look at dms for that i've already like got waiting for me right it's been fun but yeah we really appreciate everyone's sitting in others friends spouses partners whatever that uh hit us up with the information. So if you're a potential guest, start thinking about who you want to give us information. Oh, and if we ask for questions

on our Instagram, try and come up with stuff that's not such low-hanging fruit. If it's the first thing you think of, it's probably already been posted 17 times and Joey and I've already wrote it down.

So originality will get you on the podcast potentially for your question. Well, we've got a lot more stuff, but I don't think we're going to get into too much of it. So I'm going to maybe both of us just pick one more we'd like, and then we can move into a little, a little game. Yeah. And it actually kind of goes along with this um so your wife says that you really like cooking from scratch but based on everything you've told me you eat junk so what's got you into cooking like well so if i came to the realization if i eat real foods and not junk i lose weight yep so like so i've got a weightlifting competition

i signed up for where i have to be 224 so as long as i don't binge I can lose a pound a day okay so like I just got into like I was late to the party on like uh Uncle Roger on YouTube the uh like Asian stereotype I know him yeah he's funny sometimes yeah so so I got into that and then it was like, uh, Joshua Wiseman. I used his recipe for pancakes and that ruined. He's like, I used to always joke,

like if I were ever going to sell out for any company, it would be Mountain Dew and Bisquick. And then I, I finally just made, you know, pancakes from scratch, and it was like, oh, buttermilk pancakes from scratch are way better than Bisquick.

God damn it. Just ruin that for me. Because in high school, we would always, back in our Mountain Dew addiction phase, my parents have a cabin up in Vermont, so my brother and I and a bunch of our friends because he's two years younger than me so all of our friends we would go to like bjs or costco and we'd buy like a 36 pack of mountain dew and a five pound box of bisquick and we're like well that's all we need we're good so. So now it's like, all right, I've got the two daughters.

I need to actually, you know. Is that an example? Yeah. So cooking from scratch kind of cleans up my diet a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I need to eat a lot less chicken wings. I'd probably feel a lot less bloated. But then my wife's like, I'm going to make shepherd's pie. And I'm like, hey, that's great. That's some good

home food cooking and then i eat two heaping plates of just shepherds because i can't stop with the cup like shepherd's pie and yeah it's because i love it but it's just like i'm like you might as well make a little extra because you just know i'm going at it so then i was like i feel so bloated oh shepherd's pie and then I'm coming over here to the podcast going, uh, something like that's like hard to gauge how much you're going to eat too. Cause it's just like, well,

let me just get a ladle full in the hand. Let me just do another spoonful. Whereas like, if you're just going to eat a big piece of steak, it's like, you're just going to eat the steak or whatever, but like something like that, you're just going to,

you know, kind of, you could easily eat like 5,000 calories of it. Not really realize not really realize it because you're like oh it just goes down nice and easy all right so my last question before we move into a little fun game is gonna be tell me about the uh the bear squat yeah so the bear squat is something that i found somebody in i think it was trumbull connecticut was selling it for like 400 bucks and so i was just like you know you always see a bunch of people always talking about them and kind of like the it's like one of those machines that you don't realize that everyone used to have and used to rave about and then like so it's chain drive

and it's just like a squatting you know machine where you you know you add add the plates to it and the chain drive is just so smooth so like you can you can jump with it you can squat with it you can do like lunges with it it's essentially like a a Smith's machine version of an SSB. It's just the perfect accessory movement. I can ban the crap out of it and just go to town on heavy fives.

With squatting, I don't like doing high rep stuff because my torso, my bracing is always going to give out first, but with the, with the bear squat, I can kind of, you know, not have to worry about form at all. And I can just go to town. So it's like my favorite machine for, well, one of my favorite obscure machines that I picked up where it's just like, Oh, this thing is great. I can do, you know, split squats.

I can do tempo squats. I can, you know, do lunges, step ups. Like lately, the last few weeks I've been doing step ups with them. And so it's,

it's a lot of fun. But that's not really cool. I have no clue what, what the was when I saw it on here. So, yeah. So, so it's, I, have on here. Yeah, so it's...

Have you seen like the Kaiser machines? Like they have the Kaiser squat machine? No. Negative. Trust me, if Keith hasn't seen it, then I have no clue. Okay.

Do you have a bear squat bear? It's like a belt squat belt. I think you should get a bear squat bear? It's like a belt squat belt. I think you should get a bear squat bear. That'd be pretty cool. One tiny follow-up just while we're on home gym. Let's just spend 30 seconds on it. One wish list item that you still want to add to your gym that is actually

reasonable and that you can. Oh, reasonable. You're killing me on that one. Okay. So, um, so reasonable gets me, because I do want the Kaiser Capris. Yeah. But that's $7,000.

But I look at that as like, what's, well, kind of like, what's one thing in your gym that you have a version of, but there's a better one you wouldn't mind updating to, but not necessarily. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So right now I have the, I just picked up the Titan belt squat for like 400 bucks. And it turns out just by not low balling that guy, he gave me a, it's a rusty bare steel Ohio power bar, but it was free with the you know 400 belt squat but uh eventually

i do want to upgrade that to like the rogue rhino or something like that just a little bit smoother and not the like winning strength version because like the titan belt squat kind of where where my legs like as i'm i'm mostly doing belted marches on it and my right leg i don't lift up as high as i'm marching so the the sleeves on it twist a little bit and the plates want to slide off so like it works but it's not as smooth as like the the cable going straight down versions so that's something that i would upgrade for oh good to know i always like kind of uh you know pick in the ear people that actually are like really balls deep into home gyms like that so there is there's something that i'm surprised hasn't come up but i think we answered it already why waffle iron gym?

Is it just because of your love? Is it, is it Bisquick? So I, I'm a huge dork when it comes to like dad jokes. So like just, just the idea of like a waffle iron and then like iron in the gym with like iron weights and stuff like that. So I was was like it's

clever and nobody had it yet so i had to get it and then after the fact realizing that uh like learning that aleko's uh like knurling on a barbell was originally because they used to be a home appliance company so like they used to make waffle irons and that's where they got the idea for knurling so i was like oh this is this is brilliant this is so much better like it's so much more clever than i thought when i thought i was being clever nice okay i get it now yeah that's funny i think i actually omitted that from our notes i wonder if there's like a way that we can track what everybody calls their gym right mine's really unoriginal because at the same like when i first started naming my gym i didn't i wasn't in the community i didn't know right so we'd initially

started calling it the pit but that was because i'd lifted in a fucking gravel pit and my wife knows how much i like bane and that's where he came from in the movie right right it was lazarus pit so i actually called it the lazarus pit for quite some time but everybody calls it the pit so i wonder how many like dungeons and like pits and like paradises i wonder how many we have in the crew yeah i bet there's some i bet there's some duplicates too because i like i know a lot of people that call like the the shred shack or the shred shed or like there's only there's only so many original names you can really come up or you know generic i guess there's a lot of generic uh i'm speaking more like so i'm in the whole gym community on the you know i'm in a bunch of Facebook groups and they're like so

many people think people even want to like steal other people's gym names and I'm just like they're like oh that's that's a great name I want to call my gym the no wine so they're like you fucking better not like fuck you I guess I need to come up with a different name yeah that'll happen someday

the Jaeger cellar the actually the Jaeger pit yeah there you go i don't know if i told you guys i was talking to them um about how we talk about them a lot on this podcast and i told them that i was like i'm still constantly gonna beg you for the jaeger lifting team and i was like i might even just make a one-off shirt and they just hearted it and said, love it. So I might make a one-off Jäger lifting team shirt. Nice.

No, now that I said it on here, somebody is going to beat me to it, but, um, yeah. So that's, that's that.

Um, speaking of sponsors, just want to shout out that, uh, today Obsidian Pneumonia launched a bunch of new stuff. So, uh, he did launch a, the, the pumpkin spice lobotomy, which is the pumpkin spice scented pumpkin spice latte scented, um, salt, but then he's got some originals that I've never seen. So he's got a tobacco scent, and he's got a menthol tobacco scent,

and he's got a coffee scent. And I think he re-released the fireball scent as well. So if you know any of that stuff, honestly, I really want to try the tobacco one, but unfortunately I have an entire can of ammonia sitting downstairs that I just need to get through before I can justify buying more ammonia. But if you guys want to try any of those, we do have our code now. It is unpaid. Use it at checkout.

Save your 15%. Yep. Give us that little royalty. Don't give it to anybody else in the crew. Make sure you use unpaid for us. give us that little royalty. Don't give it to anybody else in the crew. Make sure you use unpaid force.

And the nice part is if you're in the crew and you don't have a code, you can just kind of like spread ours out. And, you know, I don't know how that would work on our end because it's not like it's a giant commission royalty or anything like that. But it is really neat that we have one for us. Absolutely. I was pretty happy to see that.

Appreciate you getting that all in the works for us. Big Steve, I got one question before we move into unpaid and underrated. You just housed the rest of that milk that's been sitting on your table for the last two hours. How was that lukewarm milk, buddy? Because I almost cringed when I saw you drink that. I looked at the clock. You can't even answer. I'm laughing too hard

So In the show notes Where there was the mention of Anchorman I just wanted to quote Milk was a bad choice And now it turns out milk was a bad choice I also have a Canada Dry original sparkling seltzer.

What? The plain one. Oh, I bet that's amazing. Yeah, it's pretty good. So that's my... Everybody knows Canada Dry invented ginger ale, right? Ginger ale is a Canadian invention. I knew it was my preferred

ginger ale but I didn't know that it was the original yeah buddy give me Schweppes all day I don't know I like Schweppes much better you would it is not

the other one is just too dry give me some Vernon's yeah whatever buddy does Vernon's exist did, whatever, buddy. Wait, does Vernon's exist? Did I just make that up? It's got too much hopper for me. Not that I know what the fuck that means.

Alright, we do have this game we like to play with every guest. It's called Unpaid or Underrated. I'm hoping that you've kind of gathered from the last two episodes which one is which. Yep. I'll try not to be too confused by

the unpaid as opposed to overrated. Yep. Everybody does and that's okay. And I have my druthers. Unpaid is overrated. Yep. As in you're not getting paid for that one. Underrated just means underrated.

Sounds good. I think I got it. I have been messing with our list this entire time. Uh-oh. Keith, do you want me to go first and do the ones I added? Sure, yeah. All right. Let's switch it up.

We don't usually go this way. All right. So, unpaid or underrated. Andrew's switch it up. We don't usually go this way. All right. So unpaid or underrated. Andrew Bernard from The Office. Andrew Bernard from The Office, I'm going to say is... I'm going to say actually overrated just because I think he is a beloved

character. And so like, because everyone loves him, he's going to have to be unpaid because everyone, everyone likes him. So he's rated as high as he could, could be. So yeah, I'm going unpaid.

All right. Took me a minute to figure out who that was. And is that because... Did people say you look like him? Yeah, yeah. The lift hard, live easy. So I forget who it was. It was like,

you look exactly like Andy Bernard from The Office. I've never gotten that before, but I'm okay with that. I don't know if I see it. It's Ed Helms. It's technically Egg Helms. His name is just wrong on IMDb. If you ever watched Auntie Donna's House of Fun,

probably no. I've said it before. I'll say it again. It's on Netflix. Even find some of their stuff on YouTube. It is utter silliness and insane rapid fire sketch comedy. Okay. rapid fire sketch comedy okay and if you don't die laughing in the first episode i would judge your sense of humor not judge i would just say like it is just that funny but ed helms actually

produced it so they have an entire skit where they call him ed and he gets really mad at them because his name is egg and then he has a complete mental breakdown because he's just been named wrong his entire career. Okay. Now is that actually a thing or is that a bit? It's a bit. It's totally a bit. But you gotta commit to the bit. Then they call him Egg for the rest of the season. I gotcha.

Makes sense. Unpaid or underrated government auctions. Oh. Government unpaid or underrated government auctions? Government auctions are the most underrated thing that you can have. So I don't know of many other people that have pole vault mats in their backyard, but I paid $5 and 37 cents and then had to spend 500 bucks on a U-Haul to get, to pick them up in New Jersey and drive them back home. Did you win the note?

Oh yeah. Cause those are thousands of dollars. Hey. Yeah. So pre pandemic, like brand new, they're like $12,000. Yeah.

Since all of, you know, with everything going on and the supply chain and all of that they're like twenty thousand dollars now for new ones i mean mine are ripped and torn and mice have gotten into them but like i'm using them as like a backstop for dodgeball now like i i bought a i have a 16 foot 9 carbon fiber pole vault pole rated for 215 pounds but i don't pull vault my brother does i just wanted to see if he would actually get back on a pole it was 99 with 20 freight shipping where it was a

clearance pole vault pole which where it's carbon fiber like it's a $1,000 pole that I got for $100. Just for laughs, I wanted to see if he would actually get on it. His best was 13.6 when he weighed 165 pounds. Now he's 230. I'm just like, dude, you got to try it. You got to try it. Let me record it. I promise this is for us. Just tell him that the weight rating is 250, not 215.

Yeah, exactly. As kids, we always got him to do this stupid stuff. With my parents' cabin in Vermont, it's right on a closed-down ski area. We would go up to Vermont with our buddy Rocco, and we would have my brother climb like a really dead tree like see how far he could climb up it and then we try and push it down and it was on a hill so it was like every tree that he like he was falling out of a tree like 15 feet high and then it would fall the extra 10 feet down the hill just to see if we could get him to do it. And he never said no.

So we would always get him to do dumb stuff. It was great. Okay. I have one more for you. Unpaid or underrated throwing up at Tough Mudder. So

throwing up at the Tough Mudder is underrated because it makes you feel so much better. But never drink a 12-pack of Mountain dew and eat like a half dozen eggs and pancakes and then was it spike energy drinks or some kind of pre-workout and like i think i was 23 at the time and i thought that all of those like tough motors and all of that stuff was stupid so i intentionally didn't train for it at all i just showed it up yeah got you and so like oh i

got my ass handed to me so bad and like at the time like i hated like the crossfit like culture that i thought of at the time so like i thought that it was like this big cult of just like i i don't even know what and so as i'm like a mile and a half in i'm on the side of mount snow in vermont just puking my guts out because of all the stupid stuff that i ate beforehand and you you have all all hot dogs and honey buns well pancakes and eggs and mountain dew mostly and uh so it's like you have all these like crossfitters that are in great shape that have no problem you know they're breezing up the mountain and the worst thing in the world was like they're all like giving you like inspirational like they're cheering you on as you're getting it out and you're just like no i i hate you guys i came here to defeat you and now you're defeating me

even more all right so very underrated on that because it clears, it cleared everything out. I did. I didn't finish the Tough Mudder because I walked off after the like dangling wires that were like a hundred feet from the finish line. But I was in such a like prissy mood after all of the, you know, the puking was just like a mile and a half in and it was a 12 mile course. So it was like, I did 11.9 miles on it yeah like

just miserable did you still get your shirt then no i i didn't bother the shirt i i said the shirt yeah yeah i was like yeah i was cartman i was like screw you guys i'm going home after all of that they're like let's let that's the most wasted day i've ever heard of after all that we're gonna electrocute you have some fun yeah no my brother keeps trying to get me to do a tough butter i'm like stop asking i guess it's not gonna happen all right keith you got a few i think i even added one there while we were chatting so did you you got the world is your own yeah i got a couple i'm gonna pick from all right there there, Mr. Big Steve.

We got game, unpaid, underrated. What am I going to pick? Okay, let's go with dog sledding, unpaid or underrated. Oh, dog sledding is underrated. So in fifth grade, I realized that the Iditarod pays like $50,000 for a grand prize. And I thought that that was like this world changing thing. I was going to say like, okay, what about the Iditarod?

That's really funny. You went right there. Right. So in sixth grade, was it sixth grade or seventh grade? No. Yeah. I think it was sixth grade.

I had bought this like on the farm. We would get paid for you know any work that we did so my parents would always let us spend our money on whatever we wanted so i had bought an alaskan malamute husky wolf mix and then i realized that i need other dogs to train him because i was going to get into dog sledding. And luckily my mom knew somebody that was actually into sprint racing in, in Connecticut. So I bought two lead dogs from him that were, you know,

sprint racing dogs and they ended up intermixing and having puppies. So my brother and I at at in middle school got into dog sledding and so i joined the new england sled dog club and i did i think it was like three races and the guy that got me into it he was buying a mid-distance dog at the like end of the year like annual meeting or whatever and their main speaker was four-time iditarod champion martin boozer so we listened to him speak and we my mom and i picked up this uh this husky that you know the guy that got me into mushing, he paid like $4,000 or $5,000 for this dog. It made no sense to me because I bought my dogs from him for like $400. But my mom and I actually, during intermission, they were like, all right, we got an hour.

We're going to go eat lunch or whatever. And Martin Boozer actually had lunch at the pizza place across from the high school that we're at in laconia new hampshire he had lunch with us and it was like i'm like the super awkward like you know 12 or 13 year old kid that didn't realize that he should have put deodorant on but didn't so i was a smelly guy at like 13 years old and it's like there's like the most accomplished dog sledder on the planet that's like set the record for uh fastest times you know he did it in like eight days and 22 hours and so he's right there at the table with us and i'm just like so shy

and smelly so i'm just like sitting there quiet and awkward. And it's like, God damn it. You're just like, you're, you're, you're big Keith. Yeah.

Another one of those instances. So I got my, my Cabela's poster with the Iditarod map, like signed from him. But like, here we are 20 years later, and I'm still like, why didn't I do...

Why didn't I wear deodorant? Yeah. Why couldn't I not be the smelly kid that day? Well, that's hopefully something you got remedied. Nobody likes a smelly training partner, that's for sure. Oh, yeah. We got that one figured out with the home

gym now anyway yeah absolutely i've i've had to have like talks with people to wear deodorant or just not not invite people back essentially because it's like dude come on there's like yeah you can't be doing that it's like a yeah yeah yeah anyway so unpaid or underrated my number two here we're to go with mixed martial arts. What's your feels and druthers on mixed martial arts? So, I think

I'm going to go underrated? No, actually, I'm going to go unpaid. So, like, it takes a lot to get good at martial arts and like I so I tried like

three weeks at my brother's gym he was semi-professional with mixed martial arts so my parents never liked that he was fighting so like all of his amateur fights, I was essentially like his chaperone in case he got knocked out or something

like that. So it, it's really cool, but like, there's so many people that try to get into it. Like you see it with like the, the 35 year old, like strength coaches that don't want to do any kind of like

proving that they they can like get themselves in better shape or whatever so like they all default to like mixed martial arts and they all go into like the white belt tournament and they win a white belt tournament but they're like you know they deadlift 700 and it's like yeah but you're fighting a guy that's like you know going through a 700 and it's like yeah but you're you're fighting a guy that's like you know going through a midlife crisis and has never done any kind of sport before so it's it's like i i respect it but it's it's it's unpaid it's very overrated just there's so many people that think they're're going to go somewhere. Like even with my brother,

it was like, you know, he fought a guy, he ended up getting his heck torn by a guy that ended up on, uh, the ultimate fighter. But it's like, you aspire,

you work your ass off so much for that, like one big break. and like the big break never comes because you know you can call it like the whole politics of it or like you're spending you know 150 bucks a month on training and then you have to go and like hire a boxing coach for your striking that's going to be you know 50 bucks a day or 25 bucks a day or whatever it is for that 12 week or six week camp there's so much money that the amateur kids that think that they're going to go somewhere and be like the um conor mcgregor's you know everyone thinks that they're going to be you know know, the Tom Brady's of, of mixed martial arts. And it's just like,

no, you're just going to spend a crap ton of money at this gym and you're not going to go anywhere. And it's, it's like a Ponzi scheme against the, the naive kids that are like 20 years old and want to prove themselves. Yeah. Cause there's like,

I mean, there's so many people doing it and there's only really room for like what 10 champions or whatever, like between like all the big federations. So I have a cousin that was, you know, an All-American at Edinburgh and went on to fight in Bellator for several years. And now he's like fighting dudes in Russia because he's just he's like, you know, he's in his early 30s. Yeah. He's still hanging on. I just want to give up the dream.

And it's just it's, you know, he's still fighting, but he hasn't done it. He hasn't like a main card in a few years. Yeah. Like my so my brother fought at 170 and at one point in his career he was and it was after brandon ward had won the bellator uh middleweight title so like he won the tournament where it was like it it was challenging and whatnot. And so my brother got like offered a fight for like three grand win or lose to fight this guy. And it's like, this guy's one weight class up and he, he beat,

you know, most of the best fighters in the world. Like you're going to get eaten alive. No, you're not going to take that fight. So yeah. 30 grand, maybe even 10 grand, maybe not. No, you're not going to take that fight. So yeah. 30 grand, maybe even 10 grand, maybe not, not, not, not, not three, three, three is not life changing.

That's not even going to pay my bills for the month. So yeah. No, like, like all these amateur guys, they're, they're dropping 10 grand or they're sacrificing, like not getting the full-time job that they could actually have like insurance and like you know a new car that doesn't break down all the time like even the forty thousand dollar job is life-changing compared to you know like when you started out like out of college or

whatever it's like you know you can actually afford your bills and stuff and you're not driving the the 96 ram that's you know a piece of crap that's rusted out, and you have to pour water on the battery so that the corrosion dissipates a little bit. All right, so we'll go into my last one for unpaid or underrated, and we're going to go with slumber parties with crew. Slumber parties with crew are highly underrated. So Big Scantz and I stayed up just listening to the podcast on Sunday night before we had to catch our flight. And it was essentially like we were like school girls just like giggling.

Like we would pause the episode and laugh about something and then it would be like oh shit we gotta finish this episode we gotta go to bed we gotta get up for the flight on Monday morning so and then uh staying at the Airbnb with uh

Eddie and uh Big Matt Sesney was a lot of fun so yeah I highly recommend Eddie and Big Matt Sesney was a lot of fun. So, yeah, I highly recommend Slumber Parties with Crew. I'm curious if you, that might be like you and Scantz listening

to the episode, how many other times in the history of ever have two crew been in the same room listening to an Astronomics episode, other than the couple crew that are married couples and stuff like uh that's that probably hasn't happened very often it's like well i don't think i've ever listened to a podcast with another person let alone another crew to like our podcast that'd be kind of cool well and the best part of that so like the high school kids and college kids that come over and lift weights uh so they all know scantz from the cardboard cutout that's in

my garage yeah so like uh matt so i call him college matt because you know there's so many mats in in the crew so uh college matt messages me and he's like tell scantz i said hi and then scantz and i are like sitting next to each other on the bed just watching Mike Isertel videos and scans is like oh I got an idea and so we just film something for Matt and then I send it to him and he's just like oh that's so cool I got

scans to say hi to me so we need to get scans on cameo so you start making some money yeah it's good stuff all right buddy well that uh that wraps up unpaid and underrated we do believe you pass we're gonna go ahead and air the episode and uh i got i got one thing and you moved on a little quick for me um you know we brought up the uh the whole idea of these kids like staying in the house and paying somebody a lot of money for their MMA dreams.

That's not new because we all know about the big TK merger, right? So UFC and WWE are now owned by the same company. Yep. Well, back in the 70s, Fabulous Moolah was doing that to people that wanted to get into wrestling. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not saying that it's new. Well, I know. What I'm saying is is like how is it still happening like like after it all came out they took her off of the air like she used to have

the fabulous moolah um like the nx they gave her like some women's tournament and when this all came out they were like oh we can't do that anymore but there's so many old stories of these wrestling coaches grifting these kids and everybody knows these stories but no this time it'll be different because mma is real and it's like well come on everybody get your heads out of your asses the other thing that was nuts was the uh like all of the merchandising and stuff like that with mma with the uh the reebok deal was i think it was reebok where uh you know they used to have all of these you know low-key local you know small upstarts that were the uh like all of the apparel you know you had uh i forget what the apparel company was that

okay getting huge like tap out yeah tap out okay and then there was the fight shout fight shop or something yeah and you had a bunch of those that were up and coming and like all of the individual fighters they can get their own contracts with all of these apparel companies for sponsorships and they can get like uh all of the random you know sponsorships for the like their board shorts and stuff like that and then once the reebok deal came in like nobody has sponsorships you know like um was it roy nelson used to have like beer nuts or something like that sponsoring him and now now it's like they took all of that away so like all of the the well-known names you know your your john jones your gsps all those guys they can get sponsors that are big enough

that they can you know make money off of them but like the local amateur guys that are getting you know 500 to fight and 500 you know i guess they call it like 500 to show and 500 to win like they used to make more money off of you know like a local jeweler or whoever it was that you know they get sponsorships for their t-shirts and stuff like that and all of that disappears when everything gets consolidated into oh yeah we have a reebok deal wow yep it's it's nothing and you know i i'm i'm not a huge fan of mma but i am a huge fan of wrestling and it's funny when mma people be like yeah it's fake buddy it's fake buddy and so you just give it some time mma is going to be called out for scripted soon like the wins are going to be called sometimes i watch and i just like um i'll

watch with my brother and a bunch of friends or something knowing nothing i'll just watch the hype video yeah and i'll go that's your winner and i will tell you i'm right 90 of the time because i know wrestling so i know the work well and that's frustrating too because it's like so there there was one we used to always go to the fights when when my brother was an active fighter i i always watched all of the fights and there we would always go to this one random bar and they did like some promotion with some local gym for mma training if you picked the most fights right out of everyone in the bar you got like a month of free training and i'm a smart ass so our friend rocco was up in vermont he's he's away at college so i i write his name and then i put somebody else's email address and i end up picking all of or more

fights right than everyone else just knowing what i knew of you know each fight or whatever they call up rocco and say hey congratulations you you won a free month and he's like wait what what happened because he wasn't expecting it but it was like there's so many fights like ryan bader was the the biggest example of that where it was like or even todd duffy where like there were these guys that they they set up to succeed and when ryan bader lost like john jones for a number one contender uh fight they just gave ryan bader like a like prelim position where it was like whoever he fought afterwards he just destroyed them because they needed to get his

standing padded a little bit more so that he could get back up to fighting Jon Jones or someone like that again he never ended up doing it but there were so many of those guys where it was like Todd Duffy had the fastest

knockout like 10 years ago it was like a seven second knockout and then his second fight he's fighting this guy mike russo who was just like the slob and it turned out mike russo just like hits him just like barely taps him on the chin and he just drops and his career was over. There's so many random fights where it's such a bad fight and you knew it was going to be a bad matchup but that's what they needed to do to be able to justify them getting back up to the bigger name and selling more tickets.

That's my way of working wrestling into today's episode. Alright, Steve. So with all that, I think we can move into our last segment. Do you have anything for us, buddy? Anything you want to ask us? I do. What you got? So

going back to equipment, because I know you, you love equipment as much as I do. Uh, what's a piece of equipment that you'd love to have if price and space wasn't an issue? Uh, hammer strength, ISO row. Uh, I've multiple times thought about, well, if I get rid of my reverse hyper and I move this shelving unit a little bit further out of the gym, because I like to put things like the size of something, the footprint of something in a gym, in terms of like a four by six stall mat. And that piece of equipment is about a stall mat and a half, if you will.

So I just don't technically have the space for it. And if I was going to get rid of stuff and expand expand it would just be to maybe put a combo rack in so the question was things that i basically can't get because let's just say shape and size or size yeah i solely for the space i would have to probably be the uh the hammer strength iso row but uh i mean technically so if if i didn't want to have three or four squat racks i could have like three or four big pieces of hammership equipment. But the whole point of my gym is to be able to have five or six people training simultaneously without issues. So I have to have three squat racks and a competition bench. So I'm not changing that.

But yeah, I would love to have that back machine. Part of me is like, I could just throw it in the garage and just go out and use it. But then I was like, I don't really have any space in the garage. And it's unheated. And it's just just go out and use it. But then I was like, I don't really have any space in the garage and it's like unheated and you know, it's just like gets water and shit. And then, so I'm not putting a multiple thousand dollar piece of equipment in there.

Yeah. And then Joey, actually this is for both of you, but I'll have Joey go first. What is your favorite discontinued segment of math economics? So like some of the examples i have are like fitness's finest comment of the week uh what weighs more or real or fake supplements uh heavy thoughts nice yeah we'll go with heavy thoughts because it was always like it's not that serious man it's

like not that serious of a podcast and i love that like they'd be like here's our heavy thought for the week and it was still kind of just not that serious i was like that they really played into that um can i answer the other question oh yeah absolutely a log 100 a log um and i would have one right now if i had space to overhead press a log do you know what brand you would go with or there's a company up here um i think they're called i don't know if they're still around they're called northern strongman and they make a wooden one oh nice okay right and it's wooden and finished and it just looked so gorgeous and it was so expensive but like just the look and the feel like it's an actual log

i i would get that and even if i think you know the plan is to put a shed out there yeah my crash mats and a log might go out into the shed nice i like uh i wish i could bring back what weighs more um i like that one just because it's kind of like interactive so like as they're druthering it out you can kind of do it yourself and like form an opinion and have a guess and then like get the answer it's just kind of like interactive so like as they're druthering it out you can kind of do it yourself and like form an opinion and have a guess and then like get the answer it's just kind of like it's more stuff like that's more interactive essentially yeah i like stuff like that nice oh and let one more um big frank from lift evil takes over the podcast yeah it was a one-time segment but just to see them die laughing and then you're standing there

dying laughing and at that point you might even not know who frank is because you're like me and don't know who anybody is and i was just like who the fuck is this guy and then i went looked him up and now i love the dude i was so disappointed that this is uh daminger eddie em Emmett, and I all did the lift evil strongman comp in New Jersey. And I was so disappointed that Frank didn't fly out for the lift hard, live easy. I was really hoping that he would.

Just because we forced... He was always joking that he had hops, which he does. So I intentionally brought my just jump mat, the mat that measures, you know, a vertical jump. So at the end of the day, like he didn't compete, but like it was 90 degrees out and he's, you know, I got there at like 6.00 AM and he's out there setting everything up.

So like at the end of the entire strongman competition, everyone's exhausted, especially Frank. Cause you know, he had three days ahead of time of preparing everything and he gets on the just jump mat and he, he jumps like 26 one. I think it was at 385 pounds at the time.

And it was like, Frank, you do have hops. You're not joking. A lot of hops talk tonight. As you you say the word of the today is hops it's very much so and then uh see um if you weren't into strength sports what would be your hobbies that would replace lifting and that's for either of you or both i guess for me maybe uh i mean it's a hobby that i partake in already but it was something that maybe would fill the

void just reading i guess like just something to like like help with the mental you know aspect of just dealing with life i I guess. Just filling because that's like 8 to 12 hours a week I need to fill with something so that it's not just watching TV. I wouldn't get any community out of that necessarily as I join one of the many book clubs that are out there that

crew are part of. I don't know. I'd have to think about that maybe a little more but I think reading is a good alternative for me I guess. Big sports and books podcast today. Big sports and books podcast. Dying, I guess. I've always been like, this isn't this kind of podcast. But let's just say that I'm not like somebody who wanted to die, but I haven't always been too attached to living. So I've always been a rather self-destructive person.

And, you know, we don't get into the specifics of that. But, you know, having kids and finding lifting and then finding the community and all of that kind of stuff. It's not like a reason to live. It's just like, I'm less self-destructive than I've ever been. Okay. Right. So I'm not going to say lifting saved my life or some dumb shit like that.

It's just like, if I wasn't lifting, I would just be constantly like drinking more and out there partying and doing dumb stuff. Like, cause like, so, so like everyone knocks on. Like, cause like, so, so like everyone knocks on that one,

but like, as you, you heard my story, like if my brother wasn't strong enough to lift me at 230 pounds, like I'd be dead. I think that that's not the same conversation. I think a strong person saved your life. It's not like if I didn't have the gym.

Right. Right. I would like, no, then you need therapy. You don't need a gym. Right. But I'm't have the gym, I would like, no, then you need therapy. You don't need a gym. Right. But I'm saying like the idea of like strength has an impact on, on everything.

Oh, absolutely. And I'll live longer because of it. And I'll have better health because of it and all of that stuff. But like, I just don't like things outside of like drinking and watching tv and like so you know getting in the gym and doing actual things that's what it is nice nice okay good question good question one more yeah i always think of that one because like at first i got into lifting because like my uh my brother got stronger than me and then so it so it was like, well, he's younger than me. That can't happen. And then, uh, he started learning MMA and it was like, well, I'm not going

to do that. That's too much work. So I'll at least be stronger than him. But, uh, then the very last one is more of, as you know, my, my eating probably disorders, we'll call them. Do you guys, I know you have like a normal go-to breakfast, but do you guys ever have like a breakfast that you just feel fancy eating? Like a go-to like fancy breakfast, whether it's like going to brunch and you always have to order this or I want to feel fancy today, so I'm going to make this. No. No, my breakfast has been

bacon, eggs, and avocado for like a fucking decade. Like maybe and I have some cereal or something. I kind of have an it. So I do eat the same thing for breakfast. Five or six days a week is just protein cereal. It's super easy. I can just eat it on my drive to work. I literally do eat the same thing for breakfast. Like, you know, five or six days a week, just a protein cereal.

It's super easy. I can just eat it on my drive to work. I literally just eat it out of a red solo cup. You know, go to town with that. One thing I've been getting the last couple of years that I'm trying to be healthy and still get some like good food is I've been, I've found some places that'll do chicken in an omelet.

So like chicken, peppers, onions, mushrooms, whatever, but like chicken as the base meat instead of like a fatty sausage or a fatty bacon so i guess i always feel like i'm kind of being a little healthy when i'm do that i don't know if that's necessarily fancy but okay one thing i only order when we go out because i don't make myself as a

farmer's omelet okay just ham sausage bacon peppers tomatoes and onions in an omelet but it's just too much work to make myself so i'll pay someone else to do it yeah see that that's exactly what we're talking about because uh like i'll always do like so there's a diner that always does uh eggs benedict but they'll do irish eggs benedict with corn corn beef hash i so i was gonna say i hope somebody brings up edge benedict but they'll do irish eggs benedict with corn corn beef hash i so i was gonna say i hope somebody brings up edge benedict because hollandaise sauce is trash so every time i want to feel fancy that that's my go-to but then i figured we would have to get into the french toast waffles and pancakes when each is appropriate. So like the,

the baked like casserole French toast would be another one where it's like, I just want a special occasion French toast. That's too much work that I won't do normally. But like French toast is kind of like, okay. And like pancakes are always like the go-to of like, I don't want to make too much of a mess and I don't want to like pull out the waffle iron because that's fancy so like i'll always say that like waffles are better than pancakes but like pancakes are just easier so you eat them more often and then french toast

is this weird dynamic where it could be fancier or it could be you know generic so i wasn't sure where you guys stood on like when and where you choose between like french toast pancakes and and waffles i don't think i've ever had a waffle outside of like the kind of breakfast in the last 20 years outside of like i haven't had i haven't bought eggos since i don't think i've ever bought eggos so since i moved out of my house when i was like 20 i don don't think there's ever been an Eggo around me. So I definitely never had it. So what about like a, like a, like continental breakfast,

like where they have the waffle maker? No, that's what I'm saying. That's the only time I've had that. And I travel a ton for work. So I always relate those as like being shitty because I'm, I'm, I'm eating that.

Um, okay. Pancakes. I don't, I don't think I've ever ever made pancakes at home so pancakes are always a diner thing uh and then french toast is hands down you know my favorite no matter what i don't but i don't think i would like bougie french toast i just give me some like white bread and some egg mixed up eggs with milk and some cinnamon and i'm good to go. I don't think I've ever had a fancy French toast. I would never willingly choose any of the three.

Really? Nope. Not a chance. I will not make myself pancakes. I will not make myself waffles. But if my wife says I made you protein pancakes or protein waffles, I will eat the crap out of those. But I would never choose any of them. See, I'll never go any of them. See, I'll never go with protein pancakes or waffles or anything like that.

Because like, so like for my wedding, I, we, we did a brunch and it was so that I could have prime rib and waffles in the same meal. So like, I'm always doing like my carbs or my carbs and my protein is some kind of meat

but that's why like i'm weird with that where it's like that could be another like four hour podcast of like when and where you do like brand name stuff or like you know like i i'm very weird with that where it's like all right i want my meat to be my protein yeah or my dairy to be my protein but well next time you're on we'll do a whole chat about skillet breakfasts yes as it stands right now we've got to make room for matt like we've been trying to get a hold of him for the past like two and a half hours uh So like, dude, pick up your phone because like it was your turn to join us on this round table and you didn't make it.

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Everybody good? We're going to go ahead and see you next Tuesday.