Unpaid And Underrated - 023 : The Public Sphere

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Matt (no not that one). They dive right into great topics like, car pet peeves, stealing content, Jeff, Star Wars nerd stuff, and CPAP nation. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @msesnie (https://www.instagram.com/msesnie/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Matt S.

hey everybody welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast the podcast about crew by crew for crew and you know still kicking still kicking we're on episode like 1300 or something like that like it's feels like we've been doing this for years i can't believe we already surpassed massonomics you know like we're doing really good here guys we're really good here said we we are legitimately about to overtake uh the uh the c-team podcast i think they're like 28 or 29 episodes but they're pretty much like dead like i'm they're friends with a few of them and i don't know that they'll be putting out any more content ever again at least not in the near future. In the next month or so,

I should be able to text them and bust their balls that we surpassed them. Let's keep that up. I think we're closing in on six months. Outstanding. Kind of. I'm tired. I'm so tired. You guys can already tell I'm joined by Big Keith. I'm Joey, and we have

Big Matt here. Big matt sesney from the wolf pack hello crew how are you guys doing tonight wonderful i have a video i am fantastic i'm very excited to be here i'm living the dream that's what i'm doing living the dream uh you know what you've already got your drink spotter out. Tell us what you're drinking. So, well, it's a zero sugar monster. I'm typically part of the white monster mafia, Nectar of the Gods. But we get the variety packs from Sam's Club and the wife wanted the one with the mango and the pink rosé flavor in there too with the white so uh that's what we're having tonight i've been up since 4 a.m so i mean what better time to have a monster than at almost nine o'clock at night you know we do it yeah actually i every time i go to the the the uh kind of the lunch break room and they don't have white monster i think think of you. Because that's the one I buy. The Green Monster tastes like battery acid.

Red Bull doesn't have enough caffeine. But there's always the White Monster's empty. I'm like, ah! Where's Matt? Keith, what do you got there? It's beer 30. So I got my McAuliffe choice. It's beer 30.

Matt, you were going to say something. What was that? I was going to say the white monster is that perfect amount of caffeine where it's more than coffee more than Red Bull but it's not like a rain or a pre-workout or something that will ruin your day or give you an upset stomach so that's why we stand behind it for good you know. Oh yeah that's fair i'm drinking uh green and grit it's called the nevermind india pale ale keith this one has a specialty hops which is a tango and zamba hops now these are um these are bread like they're bread to taste different so they're just a mixture of other hops

taste a little like candy these hops they've got like a weird jelly bean flavor to them this is a weird it's a weird beer but it's delicious and it's strong because oh yeah that's a good face i wish i'd gotten that face frozenonomics uh band don't buy the lift hats you know the og lift logo rip um for the shirt we're representing uh big emmet reese reyes with our reyes total performance shirt you know going with the fiesta theme on the monster can and then uh down below you know stand up you know the curl shorts they're hanging in there a little bit you know they don't look as good as when they were brand new but there's still a little bit of writing left on them so we're representing massonomics on the top and

the bottom hell yeah keith just has a regular red shirt is that just a regular red shirt no yep just a rich right now it's the uh this is the seven year anniversary podcast shirt oh i love that shirt I know they're all the same blanks But for some reason I feel like that one just fits better Oh, I have What you got, buddy? I have an Obsidian Ammonia

Which is a comp shirt It has my lift bearded across the back Because you can see it under my Singlet And it was just honestly i just so most of my medium shirts are getting small so now i'm desperately just trying to find shirts that don't make me feel like i'm gonna rip them when i'm wearing them well you had an opportunity today there was a drop if anyone's listening to this it's you's four or five days old by now but they got the uh what was it

the the paps blue ribbon or the blue ribbon power lifter shirt the uh the camo hoodie the camo windbreaker and a hat with the the crew patch of some sort yeah yeah. Yeah, it's a crew patch adjacent because it doesn't have the rule-outs over the U. So I think they didn't want to, you know, infringe on our copyright and get another cease and desist. Another cease and desist from us this time.

I actually didn't pick anything up because, like, I have so many hoodies. I have so many shirts. I can't keep just buying shirts all the time and paying american prices and having them shipped up here like where i work i can get them for ten dollars for five like it it's if i'm gonna keep growing out of them i'm gonna have to start making smarter choices with my money yeah 35 is hard to swallow sometimes if it's like um you know i i don't know where my weight's going to be in six months so yeah i kind of got to have like

three different wardrobes so i do it's like if i if i lost 20 pounds i'd gain like five different massive novice shirts back into my wardrobe uh i did end up picking up the uh blue i think it's called the blue ribbon power the people vr adjacent shirt i got that coming so that'll be here in a few days probably i was gonna get it but i was gonna only get it if i could order other things too and the powerlifting record shirt is sold out in both sizes i would want so i couldn't justify one shirt in the drop that makes sense for sure matt did you get pick anything up i'm definitely thinking about the hoodie um you know i love hunting so camo is just part of all of my wardrobe i already own the windbreaker i bought it the first time it came out i haven't had a chance to wear it that

much but we're just getting into fall so it might be time to start breaking that out you know it kind of came out like end of spring i think last time and it got warm pretty quick so i'm thinking about the hoodie or should i say the uh the south dakotan jacket i was thinking about that too and getting it in a large um i might have to might have to do i think payday's tomorrow and we'll see what money i lose after you know after payday i'm wearing camel pants but they're just joggers so i'm not showing them off i'm not gonna stand up on a podcast you guys can describe my at describe my ass to the listeners we wouldn't see him we'd just see you know he's a camouflage we wouldn't see much i don't know anybody that would stand up on a podcast to show what kind of pants or shorts they're wearing.

I think Big Ryan did it too. I'm not going to stand up and go, look, camo joggers. Curl shorts mean something. Standard camo track pants. Do you guys call them track pants? I guess. Sweatpants, track pants. Do you guys call them track pants? I guess. I don't. There's jogger. Sweatpants,

track pants. I've only really called them sweatpants growing up. I only call them track pants when I'm referring to Ricky from trailer park boys and the awesome snap down Adidas ones he used to wear. So those are track pants in my heart. Maybe that's because it's a Canadian thing. Well, we call those tearaways. Oh,

okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you can just rip them off and, you know, show your Stoltman smugglers, which just came out, I think today too.

Uh, did you guys get a chance to listen to last week? This week? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big doctor. Mike,

even have to listen to it with my wife in the car and you know i told her like this dude's hilarious so get ready and she actually really enjoyed him too um didn't get a chance to finish it because i guess when i got out of the car my podcast app was like yeah we're gonna restart this but i was like 20 minutes from the end and i couldn't be bothered to like no i'm not fast forwarding like that's the most annoying thing i think that's ever happened yeah i um so i i consumed the podcast on two different phones usually because my and when i'm in my work truck it's usually my work phones paired to just so my boss calls my work phone it's you know paired to

that so like 75 of the shit i listen to is on my work phone but then when i get home i have like opened up the same app and it usually syncs up but sometimes it like the app has to be open for a couple minutes for it to like catch the exact timing and it's just fuck where was i i could just manually try to do it yeah i feel i definitely feel the pain on that because i bounce back and forth yeah no no patience for that um so yeah five jds because it's it's dr mike like every time he's on he makes me laugh and he's really smart and he's really funny um his sense of humor knows how to ride the line without going over it which i really appreciate because that fits in with our kind of you know keeping it light-hearted but still kind of pushing the boundaries of edginess so i do appreciate that about him too so i definitely yeah that's five jds for me yes that's fair i'm uh probably just go ahead and

combine the chicken bake video and the podcast because i kind of consumed them all right around the same time um you know and isertel was essentially the entire chicken bake video uh that was really funny uh i didn't i don't think i've known about it a lot i haven't consumed a lot of israel's you know content it just needs you know kind of my radar but not something i've really gone away to watch i definitely don't follow him on youtube but fuck dude he's funny uh but he definitely does like right to the edge of like you know what's the most amount of politically incorrect you can be and not get canceled. And he was like right on that cusp of that, I felt. So it was pretty funny.

So go ahead and give him five JDs for this week. What about you, Matt? Do you have a chance to watch the chicken bake or get to the podcast? I did watch the chicken bake. Well, mostly listened to it, but it was playing on my phone while I was driving home from work today. I wanted to make sure that I caught that. But I had the holiday off on Monday, perks of being a government worker. And, yeah, I was just doing stuff around the house. And, like, as soon as I remembered that it was Mike Izzertel on there, I burned through the whole episode. And the only times that I paused it was for me to run around the house frantically to look for my wife to recount in a less funny way, the thing that Dr. Mike just said, because I can't stop laughing. So of course I need to tell it to her, even though it has no context

and she's not going to think it's funny. But for me laughing out loud, I don't know, countless times while listening to it, it's obviously going to have to be a five JD power for me. It's funny that you say that because today I came up from the gym and I was telling Morgan, like my wife, that like, oh, the juggernaut wanted me to do four reps at RPE 10, but I was able to do five, which pushes it, you know, my max up to this level, blah, blah, blah. And she's just like, uh-huh, uh-huh. She goes, you know my max up to this level blah blah blah and she's just like uh-huh uh-huh she goes you know if you ever asked me about this after the fact i have no clue what you're talking about right but it's just the same thing you gotta go find her to be like you gotta listen to this and she's like uh-huh okay good boy i get the same thing from my wife

as well like um she definitely cares and like she, like, oh, what did you squat this week? Even though like she could see it on the social medias or whatever. And then, but you know, her like friends and family will ask about me. Cause they know that it's kind of like my only like big hobby. And she just basically says anything over 300 pounds to just like the random person that has never weight trained, it's all just heavy and they can't really comprehend it. She's like,

even when you tell me and she's like, I follow powerlifting, you know, adjacently like quite a bit. And she goes to the meets and kind of understands, but it's all just still heavy. And at some point she's just like, when's it enough?

I'm like, that's the thing. It never is. Never. The pursuit never ends. Never going never gonna stop they like to say good stuff so you guys see all the uh stolen ig content we had there uh there was a couple different things to touch base on it the uh the girl that posted the reel that was pretty much identical to the one tanner posted last week about the uh i don't know the guy walking posted the reel that was pretty much identical to the one Tanner posted last week about the

guy walking around the gym saying, call me anything, but don't call me small or something to that extent, right? She copied that. The second I saw that. And then she was like, I guess, was she deleting a bunch of the... Were you the first one that commented on her thing?

Because Tanner tagged you in Discord asking about it, and then when I went to the post there was no comments from anyone in crew and then like 10 minutes later there was like 20 of them and she like had some like thanks for helping me boost my channel like like just this like snarky response like just you know i don't know but she definitely deleted a bunch of comments prior to that that popped up on my feed and i'm like oh massonomics army thinking back to uh rep fitness and everything else i'm like we will defend their intellectual property and i immediately tagged them and said uh you know and i made sure to check the date that

she posted and the date that tanner posted and i'm like huh Masonomics stole the joke from Masonomics I think I tagged and then Masonomics replied oh that's funny that we posted the same joke with the same format one day prior to yours and she's like oh you know great minds just think alike you know we must have had the same idea yeah okay

you know and then she deleted all that which is some bullshit yeah I definitely screenshotted those comments too you know and then she deleted all that there was some bullshit oh thanks yeah i definitely uh screenshotted those comments too you know oh nice in the long run doesn't matter because this is the internet everybody steals everything because then big matt stole something yeah that was but i i don't i think tanner was more busting his balls because like the thing he posted didn't even it was just just, it was just Billy Madison,

but it was a completely different relevant. Like it was in a completely different format, I believe. Uh, but then Big Matt pulled it down before I had a chance to like do it, get a screenshot of it, do a side by side, making fun of them.

But, uh, no, we all, we all like just bust, bust each other's balls. So I think, I think everyone's stolen a little bit of something from someone.

But like big jeff even said it and like i've always kind of felt it you know you know me guys i'm anti-influencer influencer type where like i don't there's no funny memes anymore like they might make you nose laugh but they're all the same variation of a different thing it's somebody told me i'm not going to go to the gym but i am going to go there's a new person at the gym doing something stupid and i'm going to mock them like it's all just variations of the same thing it's just a matter of finding new ways to put a reaction to the same caption oh my gosh a sumo deadlift with straps i haven't heard anything about that before

yeah yeah right oh yeah better better make some inappropriate joke about that like it's just like stop just stop memes are memes that's the point meme what does it mean mean meme is a memetic it's a memetic it's a repetition of itself over and over again until it loses its meaning of its original context so like but ultimately that girl got had got what was coming to her i was gonna say like of like the whole like jim memes and everything being outplayed like the people taking the sam sulik clips out of context and then putting stuff over it because he's already like kind of so different from the typical stuff those are the ones that i've actually been laughing at lately and when

they take him and they apply it to like non-gym related things and like the captions or the words like i actually laugh at those ones but i'm sure that'll burn out in a week or two it'll be enough you know i mean the the last one i really laughed at there's this guy who does a series of like like bible verses from the gym and he's like you know let us all read today and then it's just capicola screaming and it just said unintelligent or uh untranslated script and i genuinely laughed out loud at that like that was the first time i got a laughed at because you know also capicola it's just great grizzly is top tier.

Oh, yeah. For sure. Keith, you were going to say something and then you froze. Oh, yeah. Yeah. One of my funniest memories about a meme, like years ago, I was working with this older dude. He had like some like, you know, it's like a teenage daughter. And so anytime he would reference a meme, he would call it a meme.

Yeah. And I'm just like like the fuck are you saying like and i had to like teach him that it was meme not meme and he was like arguing with me like well okay i'm wrong and you're right it funny story about the um the word meme is um i have a five-year-old son and he's got, you know, my parents and my wife's parents and they all need a name. So my step-mom wanted to be called Mimi,

but she spelled it M E M E. And I just think after like five years now of like her name being meme, she changed it to M I M I and gave up on the the meme spelling for mimi so it's just you know kind of funny being the older generation not really understanding memes and even the word itself uh to take that one step further um you're from new york so the opposite side of ontario the um the windsor chatham essex county area where you cross over into detroit has a very particular population of french um settlers and in that dialect you refer to your grandma as may may okay but to any other french speaker that is fat old woman really that's funny

so when my kids call my mom or my mother-in-law may may and it's so funny because if any quebec all people are around they're just like what and we're like from chatham they're from chatham and they go oh yeah okay that car that car it is uh that's funny that that just is a little extended version of that um let's talk about that crew falls meet up sorry i'm just gonna like jump into jump into things we can only talk about meme for so long. No, Crew Falls is going to be awesome. I got an anniversary present, a surprise anniversary present, a plane ticket

to go out to Crew Falls, so that is happening. Big Keith will be in Sioux Falls for the Crew Falls meetup. Very excited. Is that both of you or just you? I think the anniversary present for herself is a weekend alone but uh it's just i wasn't gonna go i was kind of looking at tickets i was like that's a lot of

money and literally spent x amount of money this year and you know we exchanged gifts and she got a hoodie and i got a fucking several hundred dollar plane ticket so i guess i won and then she gets a you know a nice three-day weekend alone so I guess she wins too technically she won because she got you the better gift you won getting the gift but then she gets she's going to go lift all of your weights she's just going to go down there she's going to make videos dressed like you

in the no wine cellar she's going to wear orange socks she's going to put on a singlet she's going to do your little dance with your hands before you deadlift she's gonna sit on like sit on the couch with cats and watch tv for three days straight and enjoy the shit of her life now i'm gonna message her and tell her to do that yes that would be funny even if she doesn't actually do it she's got to make it appear

like she is just to troll you maybe put one plate on the weight tree backwards, you know. See if he notices. I was still, I was putting, I grabbed some tins today on the deadlift platform weight tree. And there were fucking, there was like four tins in a row that were backwards. I was like, God damn it. I'm like, and then I'm trying to like think back, which fucking asshole was deadlifting here Friday? And I was like, it was like six people. So I don't fucking know who I can yell at.

Did you hear him say tins? Did you hear him say tins? Tins? Tins? Not tens? Tins? That one I could go either way, I think. That's the Jen Jin one, right?

It's definitely like T-E-N, but I guess T at tin. Let me get some tins. Yeah, I think I do enunciate that with an I, a little more than an A. Do you remember when Big Caden stopped by my house to pick up some gym stuff? And I wasn't here. So I just told my wife, I was like, okay, I left the package for him. Just like, just hand it off to him. And she was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that.

So she went and dressed like me. She put on like my crew jacket with all and dressed like me she put on like my crew jacket with all those patches and she put on a masonomic shirt and then she did the thing where she like opens her mouth and smiles and points because i do that in all the pictures she's like yeah i just i thought since you couldn't be here i would just be you when you weren't here so she fucking roasted me and i think that i think your wife should do that oh yeah what are wives for if they're not gonna roast us that's my wife's favorite hobby is making fun of me and i love it i'm here for it it's a good hobby any uh any chance of you guys are gonna do a surprise any chance either either you're gonna do a crew falls

surprise drop him no not a chance uh no i when was it in the fall december 9th december 9th oh yeah that's you're gonna be we know you're gonna be at the tree stand for the next four months matt we all know that until new year's basically yeah i was gonna say matt if you have nothing to do december 9th i have a meet here in burlington which is close to toronto so if you're not doing anything i don't think i can come into canada i let my enhanced license um expire i had one when i was in college because i went to niagara university which is like on the gorge like the niagara river so we could like walk over to um oh what is that the island or the hill what do you know what that's called joey right there like

the touristy area uh have your yeah niagara i was there i was just there i want to say niagara on the falls but that's clearly not it yeah that. That's I mean, that, that might be adjacent. A little too on the nose. That's a little too on the nose. Yeah. On the falls. Is it on the falls? Yeah.

Is Niagara in the name? Yes. Clifton Hill. That's it. There it is. Yeah. It's got all the corny shit up on the hill. Yeah.

Boston Pizza. That's the only time I've ever been to a Boston Pizza is on Clifton Hill. And that's the worst Boston Pizza. Overrated. Yeah, well, if you go to that one, for sure. We went to the Rainforest Cafe last time we were there, and that was trash. Fun for the kids. What he meant to say was unpaid.

Yes, it was definitely unpaid. Well, no, I paid a lot. I paid a lot. Well, there you were. $120 for some microwave food. Speaking of getting pissed at things. Hey, guys. Let's jump into what's grinding my knurling this week.

And this is a Joey original segment, right? Yeah, I totally made this up with the help of Big Caden to get the name. I don't know why you guys are talking about, you know, this is the benefit of not listening to the back catalog is everything's new to me. So I think some people are kind of missing the point of what I want to do here. The idea is to give us a pet peeve and let us rant about it and i do appreciate everybody engaging with the post but some of you are giving me like the thing that happened to you specifically and i don't know how to react to that so i appreciate

everybody's feedback but some of this stuff is so utterly specific that I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going to say it because I don't want to embarrass anybody because there's actually more than one. I'm going to pick three today, maybe only two, and I want to hear everybody kind of see if this pisses them off as much as it's pissing everybody else off.

So, Matt, you have a home gym yes currently sitting in it cool having the room for more equipment but being cheap and not buying it Matt's raising his hand I don't know about being cheap but

it's just like, you know, there's only so much like fitness related money that you can justify, whether, you know, you supplements. If you're into that, like home gym equipment, a big expense for me right now is the wall of powerlifting gear being a geared powerlifter so this year I haven't really purchased a ton of things in the gym um you know far less than previous years since I've had my home gym because the money has gone into squat suits and bench shirts so if I stopped buying that stuff and took all that money i could buy more equipment and i certainly have the room so eventually we'll expand i'm in a i'm in a particular area where i i don't have the room and that's good because i probably would spend the money so when i didn't have the room like uh i just recently built this house and everything

and like there's a you know designed it with a basement gym in mind and everything and while we were building um because we did a ton of the work ourselves my wife and i built like half this house just her and i together we had stayed with her parents for like a year and a half. And, you know, their house was not a ranch. So the basement was smaller and they had all their own stuff. So Matt's home gym was the area of two stall mats. And that's all I had. I had a half rack squat stand and then I deadlifted in front of it and a flat bench the only thing that i could do at that time that wouldn't really take up space is just get or fabricate specialty bars and then just lay them all on my spotter arms and then when i would lift i put them to the side because they didn't

really add to the overall footprint so if i was in your situation joey i would just be buying all the barbells i wanted yeah because they don't really take up room i want a deadlift bar and because there's also not a lot that like i think if somebody offered me i would say no i don't have the room but like a deadlift bar was what i would want have you been scanning the used market because you can get lucky i recently got a exos deadlift bar for 60 this year that was one of my few equipment purchases it was completely rusted and it just took maybe half an hour of elbow grease is that the one i sent you i think no i found this one like it was close to close to your house uh keith actually i think maybe near bro Brockport on Route 31.

On the way, the way I would drive to come to your gym. I swear I sent you that link. I remember seeing that. It was completely rusted, locked up. Yeah. I picked... A little three-in-one and a brush.

Probably fixed that right out. Yep. Alright. Looks like Keith has nothing to contribute on this one so well i so what was the initial because like i it pisses me off so was it that someone's upset that they have to so they don't have the money because they're upset with themselves for being cheap as i didn't understand how it was worded i don't know having the room for more equipment but being cheap and not buying it and that so i would say that if if i'm in the person that made that statement that pisses me off if there's people out there that do that if we look at it like that like i wish i had twice the amount of space because i have ten thousand dollars that i

drop on more gym equipment fucking tomorrow if i had another thousand square foot of space so it depends on how you look at it but yes that would piss me off if there are people out there that have the space and won't fill it up with gym equipment because they're cheap but hey who am i to judge what you do with your own money but me personally i if i had more space i would have ten thousand dollars less money in the bank all right next one and this one i drive a lot probably like not as much as you maybe keith but like i drive a lot and i hate people people in a full drive-through on their phone and not pulling forward when it's their turn now i'm gonna i'm gonna say people on their phone while they're driving in general cut it out cut it out like damn many

times just on my own street because i live on a country road you'll see some dummy slowly drifting into the oncoming lane that i'm in because they're staring at their phone while they're driving it happens like once or twice a week and you just honk their horn and one day i'm going to do that i just give them a quick honk and one day i'm going to do that they're going to overcompensate and end up in the ditch and i don't care like don't it's against the law for a reason you know i'm not one to always like be that laws are justified all the time but that one you hurt a lot of people when you're doing that my kids are in the car and you're just drifting into oncoming traffic so that one yeah that one definitely

get off your phone if you're driving attack get a dashboard thing where you can plug your phone in and see it from there or something but if you're doing that thing where you're staring down at your phone drive off the road get out of my way i think um people are just like addicted to like you see them at the red lights and they're on Instagram or Facebook or TikTok or something like they can't separate, like they've got that dopamine addiction where like, if they just supplemented that by doing what I do and listening to the mass nomics podcast, every time they're in the truck or another podcast, you're stimulated enough because you're more engaged than listening to just radio and songs you've heard a thousand times but you're not like it doesn't require your eyeballs so you can pay attention to what you're

doing you know yeah so i have a slight adjacent one to this to to you know to carry on to what grinds my neural link right now people that fucking won't pull up at a red light they like to give a car and a half two car lengths worth of fucking space between the two vehicles. So there's a, where that fucks me and my reasoning of that is I'm trying to make a left-hand turn and get into the left-hand lane

and you're fucking sitting two car lengths back from the car in front of you and you're blocking me making my left-hand turn to get into that lane, which has a fucking green light and I could fucking be home right now,

but you're a selfish fucking ass. Okay. Is it because they think there's an apocalypse and they want to be able to fucking zigzag out of traffic or something like why the fuck aren't you one half car length max no i i fully disagree with you there i'm gonna go i'm gonna go one car length okay not one half because a your emergency does not constitute a threat to my safety. So I have zero patience for that concept. I'm staying a car length behind because if somebody rear-ends me, I don't want to rear-end that dummy.

Okay? Also, two other things. Three other things. You never know what's going to happen. Three other things. And I can tell you right now, I saw a TikTok where somebody explained this exact shit. Three other things. And I can tell you right now, I saw a TikTok where somebody explained this exact shit.

Truck goes through an intersection, hits a pothole, and a sinkhole forms under that truck. The car that was behind it left enough room that it was able to stop. If it hadn't, it would have been in that sinkhole too. Second, carjackings. Doesn't happen a lot up here, but I know it's happening a lot down there. If you are far enough behind that car when they go to stop, block you in, and get out of the car to come and steal your car, if you've left a route car length behind,

you can get away from them. And the third one, I think it was the rear end thing, that if some dummy rear ends you, you're not going to hit the person in front of you because then you're still at fault for parking too close to them so i will say as much as it bothers you i am a safe driver i give a car length every time i guess i'm thinking more

thank you matt i have to like register a car length versus i'll have to evaluate next time like this there's a specific turn near my house that impedes me from getting home on time most of the time i'm gonna have to evaluate if it's more than a car length if i'm like if i'm over as if i'm you know generalizing that it's that it's multiple car lengths or if it is exactly a car length because i think you're i think you're more focused on the inconvenience of you getting into the left lane so you're exaggerating the space that they're leaving but it also means it also means only half the cars are going to get to go through the fucking green light on time and then you get all these assholes that fucking run red lights if you fucking enter an intersection when it's already

red i'm honking my horn at you flipping you off and fucking gunning it and if i you fucking hit me fuck you yeah i hate fucking people that that run red lights because they think it's just their fucking turn i've been waiting so therefore the rules don't apply to me. Oh, I see it all the time. I see it all the time. That gets me. When people are making the left-hand turn, and it's fucking been red for like five seconds, and they're still going, and I just fucking

creep out. I have a green light. I'm fucking going. Fuck you. You're stuck in the middle of the intersection. Now, the person behind me might let you through, but I'm fucking not. I've done that a time or two, but the wife didn't like it. So I can't do it with her in the car. Around here, we have a little bit of a plague of overly aggressive drivers who speed through left lanes, blow through red lights, and are a little bit all over the road. And they happen to be mostly the white plates with the blue writing in the Niagara Falls, USA area.

They tend to, I don't know what it is, but they come over here and just, probably because they're over shopping, trying to get their 17 gallons of milk and a full suitcase load of clothing to smuggle back over at half the price of what it is over there have you driven up here it has been a very long time i i was in new york i was in new york really recently and i'm going to tell you uh probably that they're stupid and not malicious your lights over across new york are very confusing um here our lights hang by a pole they're yellow you can see them from far away they have lights that adjust to the sunlight they're very different to the ones that hang like yours do from a wire but you guys also have a light next to a light. And one is for this one. One is for that. And that's very confusing.

I would say the first time I drove in New York, I probably ran a red because I didn't know that red was for me. I'm going to say probably, I'm going to say probably, I don't think I did, but like, I remember distinctly going like, I don't know if that's my red or not.

So I don't know what to do. And then the car behind me was like, fucking go. So I went,ly going, I don't know if that's my red or not, so I don't know what to do. And then the car behind me was like, fucking go. So I went. But like, I'm going to say. You're used to what you're used to. And also, though, you are right. The people from Ontario are damn idiots. Because they drive badly up here, too.

Yeah. I don't know if it's the type of person that comes over to Niagara Falls to go shopping on the weekends that is the problem more so than the fact that they're from Ontario. You know what I mean? Or what? Causation, not correlation? No. Eventually, yeah. The lights down there are confusing to us because we're not used to them. But I mean, pull over and google it like fucking calm down

like that doesn't mean go that means slow down and drive with caution if you don't understand the laws of the road yeah what doesn't help sometimes for me is like the fucking road oh it'll automatically turn into a right hand only lane like without any like warning so i'm just like in the lane and then it's like oh i can't keep going straight down this fucking road i i'm in a right only now lane yet there's no fucking lines on the road anymore because they're completely eroded so this is fun yeah well i'm terrible at driving anywhere outside of my normal operating area which is not very large so like when the wife and i traveled to aberdeen this summer, like in that side of South

Dakota, it was a breeze because everything was straight and like there was no issues. But as soon as we got into driving, like after the meet that was like crooked and all over the place, like I am beyond nervous. Like, where am I going? I miss my turns. Like, I don't like that feeling of not knowing or being familiar with the road infrastructure, especially in different states where their signage and their traffic lights and everything are different. All right. Last but not least, this is the one that fucking irks me. Okay. People FaceTiming, and I'm going to say or phone calling, in public on speakerphone.

Oh, 100% the shittiest. I'm going to tell you. When I went to the Fergus Highland Festival Games, I found a really good seat. There was nobody sitting in front of me. My kid could sit next to me without disturbing anybody. I found the prime seat. Doesn't this fucking lady, or this lady fuck, or whatever you want to call it,

sit next to me? She's got her FaceTime going, right? And she's holding it up for her friend to watch the Highland Games from home. And she's yelling into the phone as she's doing it. I've never in my life said something to somebody, like, I would never say something, but the look that I can give human beings when they are being disruptful to the public sphere

is generally pretty unnerving to strangers i made that lady move like i just stared uh lasers through her and not at her phone directly at her face because you are making this so much harder for everybody around you where i work i see it all the time too. There's people walking. Talking into the bottom of their phone. Screaming. And they've got it on speaker. Into the area too. Like nobody wants to hear this shit.

Remember back in pre-covid. Where people would blast music on their phone on the bus. Like back before I drove. I'd sit on the bus. And there'd just be some jackass sitting there. Blasting. I don't even care what kind of music it is. It's disruptive.

I don't care if I like the song. If I can hear you over my headphones, there's a problem. But it all just comes down to the fact that people are unaware of their role in space within public spheres, because now everybody seems to have forgotten that there is a space that exists around, and that includes auditory and visual and mental, not just just physical that you are now in and interrupting and i think that's maybe why they put that one in there is because i think i've touched on this before it's just like you just need to be aware that like everything you do when you chew with your mouth open you are disrupting the public's fear i could go either way on that topic because like the in public,

like at the grocery store and things like that, I find very annoying, but like working in blue collar, like I, when I'm making work calls or I'm talking to the boss or a coworker on the job, we might actively be working on something. And then I'm like in a drop ceiling and my phone's on speakerphone sitting in the ceiling or in like the pocket of my shirt while i'm working so i am guilty of that when i'm at work i do not do that when i'm not at work or in a public setting it's just like um i don't know if it's just a trades thing if you do that keith like if you're

a boss or a co-worker i think that's's apples to oranges, though. Doing shit like that at work, that's a completely different animal. Yeah, as long as you're not doing it. I had some fucking douche. My wife and I were out back a few months ago and this fucking lady is in the booth next to us on fucking speakerphone. I think she was on a Skype call or something.

But it was just like a half hour long. She was just on Skype with someone and I could fucking, he had birds in the background of his or something like, like, like actual physical birds, just fucking chirping. And I'm trying to like eat fucking dinner.

And it's, we eat dinner pretty early. It's like four 35 o'clock or something. You like to beat the crowd when you go out sometimes. And it was a very quiet restaurant to begin with. And this fucking lady just has the audacity to just have her phone on max volume, fucking speaker phone right next to us for like the entire dinner. I fucking lady just has the audacity to just have her phone on max volume fucking speakerphone

right next to us for like the entire dinner. I'm like, what the fuck? So yeah, huge pet peeve. One thing that has changed my life is I now wear headphones like the bone conducting headphones all day at work. And if I'm

on my personal phone making calls or anything, I always have these ends and then i can answer phone calls from my apple watch or whatever and then still hear other people around me be situationally aware and not ignorant and like but then not subject everybody to my noise so you know i think they need to be more widely spread used because i also hate the people with their airpods in all the time and you're trying to talk to them or communicate or anything and they're just on a different planet like that's equally annoying to me as the people on speakerphone yeah um I'm one of the people on my own planet I like my noise canceling headphones but I think we've all like if you had to guess

it about me I'm also always perfectly aware of my surroundings right like i i check my blind spot if i'm like crossing aisles at costco just to make sure i'm not cutting across and knocking somebody over right like i'm always if i'm not auditorily aware i try to be visually aware of the um of everything around me um but that's you know cochlear so those are the cochlear is what you wear uh yeah bone conducting whatever they go around they sit in front of it and um also great like not even just phone calls like people that sit there and watch tiktok with the sound on like around other people oh and then it's like the same in the bathroom like you're going to take a leak and you can

hear somebody from the stall watching dancing ladies on that's a good one he's gonna say you know it's the thirst trap videos because you just hear the same songs over and over it's like i know you're in there pooping i wouldn't know what i wouldn't know what songs those are i have no clue what you're talking about yes of course we're just assuming you know making generalizations but yeah so i can like if i want to look at instagram and like every third lifting video is like the same, like Tik TOK sound or like, you know, death metal or whatever. I'm not disturbing my coworkers while I consume way too much power lifting all day. Yeah. Those cochlear implants are really fun. And here's a hack for you.

You have an iPhone. I do try out live. Listen. Live listen. Yeah. So you can pair live, listen to your headphones. And what it'll do is you can put your microphone or your phone somewhere within shot of your earphones and it'll turn into an omnidirectional microphone and pick up all the sounds in the room oh i'm gonna do that with my kid when he's like locked himself in his room and i want to hear what he's mumbling under his breath when he got some time out or something yeah oh that'll be funny i'm gonna try that it does have nefarious purposes where like obviously you can hear what

people are saying about you but like that's weird um but also like it's really cool for people that use the cochlear implants because uh for accessibility so like if people have those implants and they can't hear normally you want to be in a meeting put your phone on the side of the table tell everybody this phone is hearing you for me. It's pretty cool. Well, let's get a sponsor read going. I worked up a sweat in that. I want to thank you guys.

That was really fun. I worked up a sweat getting all mad about shit. It's a great work crew. We got a sponsor read. Matt, I think you have something you wanted to do for us today late on us buddy yes absolutely what i'd like to do is i'd like to tell you about the massonomics podcast the lifting podcast about nothing as they call it but it's not about nothing it's about a community i think it has brought the three of us here together tonight, all the crew and everybody that we've met on discord.

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on discord so messonomics crew for life well done that was awesome good ad read that was one of the better like off the cuff like you just for the list i don't i didn't see him reading off of a sheet of paper or another screen that was like you was off the top of his head. That was money. Good job, buddy. Zero forethought. I just kept on rambling. If there's one thing I can do, I can talk. So we're going to let it rip.

There you go. All right. Let's get our guest on the horn. Kick out all these viewers. Yes, sir. Sounds like a plan. Who is it tonight? All right.

It's Big Matt. It's Big Matt. Sesney. It's Big Matt Sesney.. It's Big Matt Sesney. Yeah. One of the Matts. He pronounced it right. That's a thing, because my last name is such a damn nightmare that, like, I made it a point to try and learn how to say people's names.

Yeah, you almost have, like, the yin and yang to my last name, because yours is... Pronounce it for me, Joey, so I don't do it wrong okay it's not like an s sound in there is it a silent s if you're doing it in english you would say molesco yeah that's how i that's what your name is to me but in yeah in polish it's magical okay but that um molesko you're getting the the s sound from the z where i have the s sound that or i have the s letter that sounds like a z sound so you know it's not confusing at all we love english yeah it's fun that i got there it's it's a weird thing because um you know where i work i work with people and people of all you know races and creeds and it's always interesting that like i'll name your i'll nail your punjabi i will nail your russian name i will nail your german name and not be able to tell you

what any of it means but i went and phonetically learned how to say this shit so it's really fun that i got sesney right uh there is one thing I want to do before we get going too far into this. I just want to put this on. Oh, there we go. Those mafia. You're making Big Jen very happy right now. It's a proud mom moment. Yeah, I...

Do you have any plastic cables to go with that? No, no. I'm going to take this off too because it's interfering with my headphones. But yeah, I went to a game a little while ago, and I just thought on the way there, I was going like, fuck, I wonder if Big Matt's going to be here. So I do love football. I love football very much. I played when I was younger and everything.

But there comes a certain point in time time and it's usually October 1st where I can option A is sit and watch TV and watch other grown men do something or option B, I myself can go participate in one of my hobbies that I love and I'm passionate about myself. So I usually choose to do something as opposed to watching other people do something, nothing against the bills. I absolutely love them and everything, but you know, given the choice between watching TV or being active and out of the house, I'm going to choose the second one every time, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. I'll usually take the outside. I don't watch football that much. It's, I also have a blue Jays fan chain. Cause I was just like, I'm going to start just collecting fan chains.

Like when I go to a game, I'm just going to start collecting them. The only one I didn't get is I went to an Argonauts game a little while ago, but we were in the C-suites, so I couldn't get to the merch table. But yeah, I think that's the thing. I'm just going to start collecting fan chains for no reason. So how did you feel about your experience going to a Bills game in person? Because that is completely different than just watching the Bills play on TV. So I was, I didn't get the full experience. I'm going to go with my brother because my brother's Bills Mafia.

And that will probably get me a better experience. So we went because my company like hired a party organizer so the big advertising was like oh we're gonna order we're gonna come we're gonna have tailgating and you guys are gonna get drinks and you guys are gonna go have fun at the game and their tailgating had security like it was a big like heated tent with beer at 10 a.m and a fully catered barbecue and like the people i was with i had just met that day i was like yeah i'm not staying here like i'm going out to see what tailgating looks like but by the time like where we were by the time you walked to where the real shit was going you were gone for like an hour and we just didn't have that kind of time so i didn't get the

full experience but going to the game was fun as shit right well you might not necessarily want to get involved in too much nonsense if you're affiliated with your job and you know true true you'd be seen in that environment or uh yeah you know when they're like joey why can't you come to work on monday and it's because you dove off of a camper onto a folding table and fractured your spine you know You don't want to do it at a company-affiliated function. Little known fact, that would not be the first time I have jumped off of something high and gone through a table. Perfect. So you're prepared.

I had a lot of backyard wrestling as a kid. My office has been trying to grow the last month or so. Well, a couple of months. So we've been interviewing fucking people left and right. And one kid, they extended a job offer to and he was like okay that's great but i'm gonna go to every bills game on every sunday and monday and thursday that they play and i might be not into work the next day and is that gonna be a problem and i was like yeah it's gonna be a big fucking problem like he had just like no show ever or and then like and

i'm probably gonna be really drunk the day before so I'll be like you know kind of like I don't know if he actually said these words verbatim but like my boss kind of like sussed it out I was like yeah you can't just like stagger in and like on a Monday we need you tip top shape so I need to say he did not take the job offer once he kind of learned that we

weren't gonna fucking cater to his bills mafia schedule obviously no I was i was blown away i was like oh well it's weird yeah i can't work any bills games yeah we're going to talk about that right uh well okay that killed more time than it should have uh matt what brought what brought you to mazonomics buddy um so i've heard you guys ask this question so i kind of did a little research because i couldn't honestly remember like i know there was a time and when i start listening to it and when i didn't so i kind of had to do some backtracking in my

life to figure it out um so you know like a lot of people. Home gym thing kind of started with the COVID, you know, homemade wooden rack in the basement and everything. And my wife and I were completely flipping our last house then too, not sure what to do. We were just had a lot of time at home. And right before the lockdown came, we both had old cell phones. I made the poor mistake for the previous phone of having an Android. And then I decided to get an iPhone again. So that gave me Apple Podcasts.

So then I started listening to podcasts because we had a ton of downtime and then very into lifting already. And I don't remember how I found Mastinomics. I think I followed their page on Instagram for the memes and then learned about the podcast after. And then it was like right around that March, 2020, when I had Apple podcasts again, where I started listening to their podcasts. And, um, as I went through my backlog, I've been as far back as the Tanner sleep study episode, which was, um, a big deal for me at the time, finding out I had sleep apnea and stuff so kind of like the thing you love meets like the other things going on in your life and everything so that kind of like sucked me in and then uh i think i cherry picked on guests for a

while and then just um slowly began like from that point around the upper one nineties, I think going forward, I've listened to every episode. Nice. Sounds like you and I got, got in about the same time. So that was pretty cool. So you are usually we always ask everyone that was at the lift hard, live easy with their favorite part of the weekend is and all that.

Kind of done that for like 10 episodes in a row. So you coming back for 2024? Nice. There there we go that's all we needed to know i've talked to my wife um i would definitely like to um she has basically put one stipulation on me and that um we have this newish house and um we got rid of most of our old furniture because it was all hand-me-down stuff and everything. And just we didn't want the old stuff and the nice new house. So right now we don't really have dressers and she wants nice Amish handmade dresser. So like Matt's got to work a lot of overtime and take the taxi turn, buy Mama some nice wooden dressers. And then she's like, yes, we'll go to Aberdeen again next year.

I think it probably won't be as big of a trip for us, which I won't rant about our 10 days or whatever it was, but, you know, probably like a Thursday afternoon to like Monday morning, long weekend would definitely be within the realm of possibility. So. That's good. That's good. For everyone that doesn't know, Matt basically celebrated his honeymoon

during the Live Easy Classic since they were out in the Midwest and they just kind of took advantage and literally drove all over the fucking country for five or six days. That was what he was referencing there. I don't think you guys need to do that again because that probably cost you a pretty penny and a lot of wheel time

that you probably were like wow could have flown to a couple of these places you see no I wouldn't have flown because my wife and I we love to drive together not to rent too much I'll keep it short but we like

we go to the hunting cabin as a family all fall long. And it's about 125 mile an hour drive. Hopefully, our son's sleeping in the back. And then my wife and I will either pick a podcast that we both like or an audio book. And her and I just in the truck, in the car, whatever, driving, listening to something that we both enjoy. Neither of us could really be happier. So where's the honey cabinet? It's got to be in the South, right? Um, so it's in Steuben, like, like Southern tier, Steuben County. So, um, if I was to take through ways there, I would get on the three 90, like right by you, Keith, and then take

that all the way to Dansville. I'm not sure if you've ever been there, but it's pretty much straight south. Okay, so it's like 45 minutes south of me then, but it takes you longer because you're all the way out in Buffalo-ish. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, because I was like,

it definitely can't be north. I hope somebody takes this and puts it over the Californians from Saturday night live. Because as you're saying, well, if I was to take the third routes, I would do these roads.

And that's what they did in the Californians. Do you remember that skit? No. What? I haven't seen it. Oh, it's a classic where they all wear blonde wigs and spoke with California accents.

And they led like, nobody could keep a straight face like everybody corpsed during that skit if you get a chance it's the only reason it's worth watching is watching every single cast member corpse including the special guests because they're like they would just do that way you're there here like stupid californian accents and be like why don't you leave and go down the i-90 and make a ride onto Hollywood and like just, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

It was funny that you did that in my brain set it. Cause it was setting that live week on the discord. Sorry. No worries. Yeah. I'll also watch that skit. I will. Normally we have like, I'm not like a big SNL person.

My wife's watched it a little bit um and there's like one thing and it's the tom hanks david pumpkins that uh we quote that every single day in some way or another like a line from that's it comes up and my wife and then like we'll be like quoting um i think it's Kenan Thompson's got a line in there. It's a hundred floors of frights. They're not all going to be winners. And my wife and I say that like casually to people who have no idea what we're talking about.

And then like, we got to get into the whole bit. And it's basically just like, oh, what are you going to do? Or the way she goes, like, you know, it's just, that's our saying that we've taken from SNL. And that's the only thing that I've latched on to from them at all. Oh, yeah. Californians at least hopefully make you giggle just because it's not a funny skit, but nobody can keep a straight face while they're doing it. All right. Sorry to interrupt, Keith. Ask more questions. I like dominated the first half of this podcast and I'm sorry.

I just I've never talked to Matt like in this depth before so i wanted to so uh what's your favorite piece of homemade home gym equipment matt uh if anyone doesn't i'm not familiar matt is a well okay so what are what's your technical job title i know you as a plumber slash pipe fitter slash welder slash jack of all trades so with all those skills you're able to make a whole bunch of cool shit for your home gym. But anything you want to tell people about your job or what you've made for the gym? Well, yeah, basically, I work on maintenance for a state university. And then sometimes like to practice keep up on my welding skills with the the access and and scrap materials so i kind of make some little projects you know keep the skills sharp we'll go with that uh i'm just looking around because it's hard to say what

i've got things that are favorites for different reasons there's like a quarter of your gym is homemade isn't it there is a fair bit like oh like like state like you have more than five objects that you've made yourself oh yeah like just in eyesight right now like uh i made a deadlift jack i use that all the like every week um you know nothing crazy uh file boxes um like a deadlift plant band platform i've made my own bar at band storage. Uh, probably my favorite thing is, uh, I made my own custom arch banner way for my rogue power rack. Um, I'm not sure if they have like the, the arches for the monster light ones, but that's the one I have. And, uh, I just kind of looked at how they made them and used ac plasma table to cut out week three's break uh you know a saying from

west side and uh it's painted black um backed with stainless steel for like the letters kind of pop they used like old-timey copper rivets and like the whole thing just kind of cool and i look at that and it's just kind of like your little inspiration like how you've got a lot of like your banners and stuff around the jim ke. Like I'm sure you have certain ones where you look at those couple words and they just kind of resonate with you. So, yeah, that one's probably my favorite, although the least functional, you know, it just it makes me happy. And it's in the most of my lifting videos can be seen at least above me squatting. So, you know. Yeah, I love shit like that.

So, you know. Yeah, I love shit like that. Anything that adds that 1% of motivation and happiness and just like I'm at home when I see this, you know, archway, like shit like that is like you have to have those little tweaks in your gym to really like just appreciate it. So I fully appreciate that. So that's something we kind of glazed over. We missed it. Where are people going to find you on Instagram, Matt? Just in case anyone's looking for you, buddy. it's just my name uh m my first initial and then s-e-s-n-i-e um no underscores or anything like that just m says me um i do have a gym instagram

page but it's not really active um because i haven't been really adding a tough or having kind of things or having a lot of guests but um that one, I think, is linked in my bio. If not, it's the Qui-Gon gym. I kind of have a Star Wars theme going on down here, too. And that's all one word with no spaces either. So I do have one last question about the house a little bit here. So is the grass growing outside yet? Do you have any grass in your front yard?

I have clover because clover has grown in much better than grass in the terrible soil that I have because I did not want to put topsoil on my entire yard. So we have lush clover and it looks beautiful and it's good for the bees. and it looks beautiful and it's good for the bees. And as long as I cut it before, like we have a lot of people over. So like the flowers are knocked down. Then we don't have a ton of bees like in the grass. And yeah, it looks great all summer long. It doesn't go brown.

And yeah, so I got that going for me, Keith. That's great. Nice. Yeah. Last time we talked, it was a work in progress no no it's keep it as clover clover stays green stays longer is better for the environment is better for the pollinators and has less work than grass like keep it yeah you're you're you've got that uh the native plant species going there because grass technically is intrusive right so right and i live like well where my house is now used to be a cornfield we're kind of like in a somewhat rural

area not too far outside of a few cities so like you know it's not my lawn's greener than the neighbors or i have these weeds and don't like there's none of the lawn pissing matches around here which is phenomenal. Good. Yeah. Leave that to my dad. It's none of my business. Yeah. They can keep all the fertilizer they want. I don't need it. Yeah.

All right. Hold on. I've got one here because I'm reading through the notes. I'm reading again through the notes. I know the answer to this, but i want to hear your answer to this what's better than niagara falls u.s side or the canadian side oh it's absolutely the canadian side other than the fact that it's in canada and um there's certain aspects of canada that are just like things being more expensive

the looney tune money but like still like canada has such done such a good job of making it an actual tourist destination a wonder of the world i don't know if it still technically is or not where like the u.s side the views are nowhere near as good unless you do like you know the maid of the mist or the cave of the winds but like the park is if the views are nowhere as good you can't see the horseshoe falls as well and then you come like one and a half blocks into the city not even and you are in the ghetto it's like yeah neger falls is fucking trashy, dude. Per capita, the crime rate per capita is top 10 in the entire nation in Niagara Falls. It is not a place you want to be if you don't have to.

But we have like one nice state park or whatever in the falls. And then we have an outlet mall where Canadians and tourists love to shop at discounted prices. That's all we got going in niagara falls so i'm glad that i am i'm in the same county and it's only 20 minutes from me to get to niagara falls but like where i'm at it's quite rural and far away from all that nonsense yeah like we were talking earlier we have we have clifton hills which is like um keith have you been there am I describing something you already know about? Maybe. I haven't been to the Canadian side. It's like restaurants and fun houses

and haunted houses and arcades. And like, it's, we have a garden. It's got a little needle thing too, right? Yeah. You can do zip cord down the falls. You can do the made of the mist. You can do the maid of the mist. You can go under the falls. And then you go to the US side.

You guys have that lookout that goes over the falls that I'm a little jealous about. But then, yeah, literally a casino. You guys have the river. That river is gorgeous. When you're driving down that little highway along the river, that's a good view. Don't take that for granted. But there's nothing. The lower river is nice if you're talking about the scenic parkway on the gorge, or are you talking about the upper river?

Upper river, yeah. Oh, see, I think that you're outside the other shit stain of Niagara Falls, which is the landfills and all of the industry right there. So it just smells like chemicals and garbage there. Yeah, we were on our way to Target and Trader Joe's. So that's the way we went. Oh, in the Amherst there, yeah. Yeah, and it's a good looking river but yeah definitely definitely better on the canadian side oh and about our money relax our money is so much prettier american money

is so ugly like everybody jokes about our money is funny funny because it's all different colors and technically plastic but like comparing it when i hold your guys money it's just all monochrome like if i couldn't read numbers i wouldn't know what i'm holding but at least with ours there's like different colors and different designs and it celebrates history we do have thomas jefferson on a legal tender so i think that beats anything canadian i'm sorry I'm gonna die on that hill Yeah wait till we get Gord Downie then we'll show you So random Question Matt

As just a fellow New Yorker you said So you live in the same town Slash county as Niagara Falls but you're kind of out In the boonies so does that help you Or hurt you on taxes then like do they Assess the fact that you are out in the sticks Or are you just lumped in with fucking being in the big ass niagara falls like touristy high value area it's funny you talk about it like that because if i was in the city of niagara falls

my taxes would be dirt cheap i technically live in a town called pendleton um we moved here out of wheatfield which bordered against the city of Niagara Falls. We're like, which was also a farming town. Our taxes really like, couldn't be higher. Niagara County has some of the highest tax rates in the entire country. And our school taxes are through the roof.

We have one of the best schools in the area and I'm happy to pay the taxes to send my son to the best school that he can. So it kind of is what it is. But, oh, yeah, our taxes are unbelievably high here. Yeah, the one luxury, like I'm technically in the city limits of Rochester, but I'm a stone's throw away from like six different suburbs that I kind of more associate with than I do the fucking city. So I get a slight tax break by being in the technical, the city limits. We don't have kids. So I'm not worried about the fucking school district or anything. But as someone that grew up in West Virginia where fucking my parents pay like $500 a year for a $300,000 house when I'm

paid fucking 10 times that for a house, fucking half the value so it's kind of like just property tax in general just rubs me the wrong way and i didn't i was curious what you were not like numbers or anything but i didn't know if living next to the touristy area if that was a higher but yeah now that you say that like niagara falls itself if you take away the tourist aspect is a fucking shithole so i i do imagine that that would be a very low tax bracket yeah i was gonna say didn't we just spend 10 minutes explaining how it's not a tourist attraction and it's trash so where my last house was which is only like eight minutes from here and where my wife's families lived forever um was in the town of wheatfield right by the niagara falls airport joey i'm sure you've driven past that enough. That's at the end of my old street.

And that area was actually zoned agricultural. So my taxes were far less there. And I missed that, even though my house used to be a farm field and all next to my house is all corn right now. Unfortunately, we're not zoned agriculture here. So we don't get that tax break. Do you have sewers? Do you have sewers? Nope. We are 320 feet away from sewer and I have septic. And being a plumber, that irked me. And you're still getting nailed for that.

Yeah, where we are, we're septic. And they're slowly expanding the boundary of the city. And so they got the other rural side around the other side of the city. And what they do is they change the postal code. So up here in my area, if you have an L zero R postal code, you're still considered rural. And then if they change you to an L eight or an L seven, then that's, that's in the city. So I know all these people that live up in a town called water,

water down and Flamborough and yeah these guys that like if you ask them their address they'll you have to give they'll give you two they give you their address and their fire address and it's funny when you say fire address to people over 60 because they look at you like how do you know that phrase but that's because they've lived out where the mailing address was different than what you would give the fire department. If your house was on fire. Oh, wow.

Yeah. They municipalized all of those people. So they, they come in and I'm like, they'll say, Oh yeah, here's my postal code. And they'll give me an LOR.

And I was like, Nope. What's your LAB? And they're like, Oh, I forgot about that. And then it's like, well,

what did they do? Well, they just raised my taxes. It's like, well, yeah, because now you're in the city. Now you've got to pay for area rating. And I'm waiting for them to get me. I'm waiting for them to get me. Our only perk is our water bill is darn near negligible here because typically I think, you know, whatever your water bill is, double it and that covers your sewer tax or whatever.

We have no sewer tax out here. Is it worth the cost of me installing a brand new sand filter septic system at my house? I'll probably never make that up in water bill savings in my lifetime, but here we are. I'm on an aquifer, actually, so we're not attached to the city at all in that sense. And that actually blew yesterday.

My neighbor comes over and he goes, I don't have any water. My pump blew, so we ran over to his house and then the next day our pump blew so we're wondering if the aquifer is sending out shock waves or some bullshit we don't know but we'll see do you have to buy all bottled drinking water or have like a water tap or i've got two filters downstairs got a charcoal and a sediment and then we also brit a filter but i buy watered bottle water bottles for the gym because i don't want to come up and downstairs every time i want to fill my water i'll drink three 500 mil bottles per per thing i'm not going to come up every time i need to fill that does your filters kind of not

got that sulfur smell or do you not have the sulfur smell yeah well the sulfur smell that we had came from the rod in our hot water tank yeah when we first moved in with my dad he thought everything smelled everything smelled and we were like dude you we started just googling it asking around and i said to him when's the last time you changed the anode and he went you don't need to do that i was like i think you should turned out to be like 10 years or something like that so we changed it and everything started smelling better immediately but it was the anode rod we don't get the sulfur smell from the water we um they don't fluoridize our water though so kind of hurting the kids teeth and my teeth because I have acid reflux.

But the water does not taste as clean as the city tap water. Do you have propane out there or do you have natural gas for like heating and stuff? Are you far enough out? I want to say we're natural gas. Yeah, I'm not on propane. OK, so you don't have to have a tank. That's convenient because like i always worry especially like living in cold weather environments like you know

we get the lake effect snow you guys get tons of snow like what if something happens and then like my heat goes out and i don't have fuel for it like that's the one thing that's reliable without power is the natural gas still comes no matter what you know yep that's good to hear uh yeah sorry keith we hijacked it again for you're good um so i i rural living rural talk on the crew cast i know a lot about matt because uh just for reference anyone listening matt lives 90 68 minutes from me give or take uh we've you know he's come over here a couple times to train and all that, but, you know, we've known each other for a few years now. But one thing that your wife gave me that kind of threw me

off that I didn't know about was some of your nicknames. So the first one, Big Matt number five, that's pretty easy to, you know, ask her. There's a shit ton of fucking Big Matt's in the Discord, but she wanted me to ask about this one. So you have a lifting alter ego named Jeff. I want to hear about that. Yeah. So you have a, uh, a lifting alter ego named Jeff. I want to hear about that.

Yeah. So Jeff, um, I did not come up with Jeff. Jeff was a name that was given to me. Um, I shift into Jeff typically only on Fridays or Sundays when I'm not lifting in my home gym, I lift in somebody else's home gym. I have a, like a training crew for, uh, equipped lifting, which is in a town around the corner from mine. Um, Dan Zeno is a, uh, he's been powerlifting forever. Um, and, uh, you know, Steve, uh, Decker, who's at all the meets and coaches, you know, there's a bunch of us, a couple of old heads and a couple of us younger guys. And, uh, it's at his barn um that we train at and you know when i first started going there this spring with those guys you know

you know old guys are remembering names and everything it's not necessarily the easiest so whatever reason there's other jeffs that train there he thought my name was jeff and then it just kind of became a bit and um like i don't't turn into Jeff unless the squat bar has five plates on it or the bench bar has at least three plates. So when like, when it starts getting real, that's when I turn into Jeff and he'll be, you know, if he's running the, the mono for me, come on, Jeff. And I get that. And it was funny.

His, Dan's wife drove by my house and saw me grilling late at night. And she's like, oh, you know, I drove by and I saw Matt growing last night. He's like, who are you talking about? And he's like, I saw Jeff grilling at his house last night. He's like, whose name is Jeff? So, you know, I love it. I love my wife. My name is Jeff. I'm very jealous. You've kind of you're you got into a good click like it's hard man it's hard to find a group of dudes that will fucking all set aside two or three hours one to two nights a week to actually lift together like i have people over here to train

but we don't lift together like we lift in the same room but like unless you're forced to like no one's like hey we're all benching tonight hey we're all dead with the night hey we're all squatting like you guys seem to all be fucking like's like, Hey, we're all benching tonight. Hey, we're all dead with the night. Hey, we're all squatting. I like, like you guys seem to all be fucking like it's squat night. It's bench night. Like, you know,

it's, there's like five, six of you. They were doing the same fucking thing. Like that's fun. Like that looks to me. I think it, um,

it harkens back to like whatever that history, like the, the golden eras of like equipped lifting, like the whole, we're not so like full like thinking that we're like west side or anything but you know like fridays like fridays is like when they squatted at west side we squat heavy on fridays it's um yeah we've got like six guys in rotation most of us are wearing gear so you you just need the help getting in it the weights are heavier so spotters and everything but i mean we've got middle school kids uh squatting and then we go all the way up

you know like seven eight plates on the bar strip them all off between sets you know and you know someone's changing rack heights guys are changing plates we're all you know changing box heights and everything and we all train together um when we're doing our max effort and then um you know, changing box heights and everything. And we all train together, um, when we're doing our max effort and then, um, you know, kind of break off to do our accessories after. So it's really great. It's kind of, um, that rising tide raises all ships. Like, you know, you, you start like working in with guys and they're lifting more than you. It, uh, it brings you up. And like, I've seen, uh, we've got one kid who's he's in soccer right now. He's a sophomore and, you know, he's like one hundred and forty pounds and he's squatting three plates on the Buffalo bar wearing a canvas squat suit.

Like it's just cool to see. It's the old school kind of mentality. And the same thing goes when we do Sundays in the bench shirts. The same thing goes when we do Sundays in the bench shirts, you know, you can barely get in the thing by yourself or maybe you can't, you need handoffs, three men handoffs and stuff. So we all were there for the benefit of each other. If somebody's beat up or they got something going or they can't do the lift, they're going to show up there and they're going to load plates. They're going to run the rack or spot or anything, even if they're not going to lift there, they're going to be there for your training partners. And it's, uh, it's been the best thing for my training,

you know, that's awesome, man. Yeah. It does. I really enjoy seeing that on Instagram and Facebook. Cause I'm friends with a couple of those guys you train with. Well,

I think we, we missed one of Joey's favorites from the top of the list here. So just touch on it real quick. One piece of mass economics merch you wish So just touch on it real quick. One piece of Madsnomics merch you wish you had bought before it went extinct. Oh. You know, I have to say, like, for me, it's the the lift shorts with the real lift logo. I was just putting it off and putting it off.

And like, I got the curl shorts i've got the lift silkies which i know uh big dave up there in north dakota is beyond jealous of he's messaged me about them numerous times you know a bunch of shirts and everything but like that is the quintessential massonomics merch item and i don't own them and I don't know if I ever will you know yeah I have two I have five so I have two mediums when I was like 30 pounds lighter I got two

larges and then I bought an extra large when I was out there recently so like I'll do the extra large to lounge in I'll lift in the larges and then mediums maybe are up for auction but maybe I'll lose weight get back into them i don't know i i bought some and then i won some from basement brandon and i was like of course i won something i already have this is great yeah you hang out with those people one of the mediums i bought i think i got on poshmark for like like 12 bucks or something, plus shipping. So that was

back when I think a blue pair showed up and the black pair showed up, and I snagged a black pair for like half off. You don't want to spend $5,000 for the blue pair? Yeah, that was... That'd be funny. I'm curious who... No, because Big Eddie must have

tracked down their account and saw they were in Watertown, New York, which is two and a half hours from here. So two and a half hours. Watertown, New York? Yeah, New York. I saw Watertown and I thought of Nate last week because he's in Watertown, Dakota. Yeah, that threw me off him talking about Watertown the whole time. Like what's really weird?

Like there's I think so. And so just call it america we have what 20 000 towns in cities what would i have everyone call at least a quarter of those repeat probably yeah maybe not quarter so a a tenth at least a tenth probably repeat because there's fucking there's like five Rochesters. There's times I see shit on Marketplace that says Rochester and I look at it and it's fucking Rochester, Minnesota. I'm like, well, that doesn't help me.

Holy shit, Matt. You're drinking more caffeine. It's fucking 10-15 at night and you just drank a Diet Coke and that is not a caffeine-free Diet Coke. I love Diet Coke, Blake. I do too, but are you pulling an all nighter fuck me I gotta go to bed soon

I'll be up at 4am for work tomorrow I like the Tanner saying I'll sleep when I'm dead I'll work 12 hour day to mile no problem I'm just a little tired all the time bullshit I know you

you don't work fucking 12 hourhour days on Fridays. You work fucking six-hour days on Fridays. I do leave early. That's another fun fact to go back to the whole lifting crew and squat night on Fridays. Since I started squatting with them, I have used paid time off every

single Friday to make sure I'm there on time or early to squat every week. A benefit of a government job and having enough vacation time, I'll spend every minute of it lifting with my training crew. But they make you use PTO even if you're up on other days, because like there's no way that you didn't work like over eight hours the other days of the week. But that make you use PTO to hit eight on Friday. So the way my job is, we're kind of like paid annually. Like we're salaried out, except for outside of our scheduled shift.

So my scheduled shift is 8 a.m. to 4.30, Monday through Friday. No matter what, whether I'm there or not, paid time off or me being clocked in, something has to cover that time frame. Anytime I'm punched in outside of that, I am making overtime. So, I mean, in theory, they don't encourage it, but I have gone in at 4 a.m., worked till 8 a.m., and then had to go home with my kids sick all day. I made four hours of overtime, and then I used eight hours of sick time to be home with a sick kid and get you know get paid the overtime even though i'm only there for four hours see that's nice that's it that's a better deal a lot of people like like this for example this

week monday was a holiday i've worked fucking 10 hour days every day since i'm not seeing a penny of overtime because i have to because that eight hours monday does not contribute towards my 40 hour of accruing actual overtime so like i would have to work 41 hours between tuesday through friday to get any overtime and monday is just eight hours of vacation so i'm more often than not i usually just try to like only work 32 and like 32 hours but i was short last week so anything extra i make this week will i mean financially iancially, I don't... I'm not forced to use PTO, typically. My boss is pretty lenient, but if I don't use it,

my check's hundreds of dollars short. I think if I... Whatever I end with tomorrow, I'll only be two hours short between the two weeks, even though I was six hours short last week. That's irrelevant to most people listening. Sorry. We can move on. Let's get into some Star Wars talk.

I know Joey's been waiting all night to talk about fucking Star Wars with you. I'm not that big of a Star Wars nerd. I'm probably mid-range. Well, I know Matt is. I know he really is. His fucking name is a Star Wars... 8 out of 10 Star Wars nerd.

So, pretty high, but not like the peak yeah like have i played star wars jedi survivor both games absolutely all the way through have i watched every disney thing that they've released absolutely but have i watched the clone wars animated series no i have not so that yeah that definitely takes a notch off my nerd. I was just talking to Big Eddie. You haven't seen all of Andor. That doesn't even watch at all. Just today, I was talking to Big

Eddie and how he and his wife are watching the Clone Wars now for the first time, and especially with everybody with the new Ahsoka series coming out. If you have not watched Star Wars Rebels, and I know it was a Disney XD show, and it's animated, and some people don't like that. But the storyline in Rebels is phenomenal. All of the characters from the new Ahsoka live action show are the characters and the plot from that animated series.

And that series gave us one of the greatest villains in all of star wars and i'm a little bit obsessed with ron um for anybody who doesn't know he is he's like the main villain in the new ahsoka show he's a general or admiral in the empire i'm currently reading the third of a three book trilogy all about him so I kind of nerd out about him really hard but he's a very interesting character so you know anybody that I talk to big spoon about Star Wars all the time

just about daily we share a Star Wars meme and he agrees with me that the third movie is hands down the best one I don't care what anybody else is wrong that would be where anakin no yeah that would definitely because then it goes yeah it goes episode three okay yeah return of the sith like oh wow and if you haven't watched the clone wars

especially season seven it will make you appreciate return of the sith 10 times more if you watch the last because i did enjoy that movie you know as much as we all make fun of jar jar binks i like yeah you would be fun why not you know like i'll take i'll take jar jar or will ferrell or any fucking um no i i don't disagree and if you you know if you're a star wars fan and you're shitting on that movie and you're telling me that when he first stands up as darth vader and yells no and crushes all of the technology around him if you didn't get goosebumps i don't think you're actually a star wars fan that for me and like i just saw like a thing and like i feel like i'm always learning new things where like um in the beginning

of the third one when he does that move on count doogoo and like chops both his hands off you see him try that exact same lightsaber move if you look close enough on obi-wan in the greatest lightsaber battle they ever had and obi-wan being like kind of like uh i forget what style it is number three or four but like more defensive like totally counters it and it didn't work and just you know all like once you point it out to people and you put the clips side by side it's like a mind blown like you know we could go deep down all of these rabbit holes okay so if you i know forgive me crew for not remembering who we spoke about i want to say it was two weeks ago i think it was paul um when we were talking about the um the power of

oh my god i'm drawing a blank from the seventh movie seven six seven eight ninth movie kylo ren yes kylo ren adam driver yeah when i was talking about how powerful kylo ren is and to that point in the movies we had never seen a jedi as powerful as him correct somebody had we were talking about it and they talked about him killing han did you hear my theory yes how you believe that han han committed suicide to get into his head because he knew it was over for him anyway you know he he's going into the force or whatever and that like you basically said that um but it was the only way to say he created that crack in his head just in the way yeah it was the only way to save kylo ren which is again just like

i feel like those movies they just took the original trilogy and just like transformered and disneyed them up because it's like darth vader watching palpatine almost kill luke that snaps darth vader out of his evil state you know what i mean it's like Darth Vader watching Palpatine almost kill Luke that snaps Darth Vader out of his evil state. You know what I mean? I love Star Wars. Adam Driver did a great job in his character. It's just the plot that gets me wrong. They could have done much better.

Has everyone finished Ahsoka? Are you up to date on it, Joey? Is it done? Uh, is it done? Yeah. Yes. Then I finished it. Yeah.

Then I finished it. So spoiler alert. We'll talk about that for a few minutes. So if anyone is planning on watching that or has not watched it yet, it tends to just skip like three minutes or so. So what's everyone's, uh, take on that and how that ended?

Uh, my, my big, I, I guess the biggest thing I want to talk about maybe is the, the, the, the,

the, the, the Anakin thing. Cause that kind of threw me for a loop because like, was he her mentor when he was still Anakin or when he was fucking Darth Vader? Because like he, when he was Anakin. Yes.

Okay. Cause like they, cause I remember like the last movie, I don't remember him having a fucking, like a apprentice before he went ape shitit and his fucking wife died and he fucking you know i don't was this all like behind the scenes shit in the the cartoons that i have to go watch briefly he he got ahsoka as a padawan was resistant to her came around they were together all through the clone wars until there was um we'll call it some political drama in the jedi order and but that's in none of the movies that

that's all backstory books and uh the animated series was falsely accused of something that i don't want to spoil for you keith because i want you to watch the Clone Wars she was you know found innocent but then this everything that she went through being in like a guilty until proven innocent type state just made her like walk away from the Jedi order and like

Anakin didn't give up on her he's like I'm going to take you back he always he was continuing to fight for her and her innocence and everything and you see a scene where she's like I just can't master and then like she walks away and like animated Anakin gives her the look and then that's the look that force goes Anakin gives Ahsoka as like she has now like moved past giving up on sabine which um i have a lot of feelings about the whole like sabine dynamic but unrelated so it was like you see that clip of ahsoka walking out of the jedi temple for the last time when she leaves the order for good and becomes like a a nomad force user let's say yeah lightsabers go to white you know the neutrality like gone from the blue and uh

shorter green in the offhand and um so that i think the white lightsabers are gorgeous white lightsabers are my favorite color yeah yeah that was the first time i think i saw those yeah so when i play um in the new uh video game with cal and when you can customize lights i would have to go with white i went with blue and white always i always went between blue and white yeah i stayed with just white and the thing that you'll love about this joey is uh my older sister um she lives in california and works for respawn entertainment and did animating on the star wars game for her job for like the last three years when they were making it she did all of the Rancor animation like some of the clothing and a lot of Merrin's

she does like the the movement part and then they overlay the art on top of like the skeletal structure and stuff that she animated for that game which is just so cool. That is really cool. So, RIP Ray Stevens. Do you think they'll actually recast Balan's skull, or can they kind of write him out? Skull, Skuller. I think it was at least open-ended enough that it could be okay. And they also, like, they do really good with the CGI in Star Wars. I know it's not perfect, but, like, Mark Hamill in The Mandalorian, I thought, looked very good.

I thought CGI Mark Hamill in The Mandalorian actually looked better than how they tried to make Hayden Christensen look younger in this show. So I think if they want his character, they could do it. But I don't know that he has to come back into it or where it's going to go from here. There's, there's so many loose threads that, but this one definitely is a, is a show,

not a mini series. Like some of the other ones have been right. Like it definitely should theoretically get a second season. So there, you know, where some of the other ones were just intended one-offs. Are you up on the Mandalorian too, Keith?

Did you watch the yeah i've consumed everything disney's put out except the animated stuff they had hinted at thron um and everything with that meeting with moth gideon and those other um uh we'll say post-empire supporters that were still for they they were where is thron does he exist anymore so i think it's going to tie back into the mand Mandalorian timeline like a lot of these everything is yeah everything's he's showing up in everything it made sense for him to show up in Boba Fett but like yeah I think everything's going to come back to that as well also I just want to find out I just want to point out you just told me Ray Stevenson died yeah yes like a few weeks ago,

a couple months ago, maybe. He was the Punisher. One of like seven Punishers, yes. Yeah. He passed away in May. You know what? I bet I heard that and was just like, oh, that sucks. But now that I've watched Ahsoka,

now it's making more sense why I care. I know. And like, I've been seeing a lot of now it's making more sense why I care. I know. And like, I've been seeing a lot of talk about it, especially with the show ending last week and stuff. And I just posted something about his death in my story on Instagram today because like I did like his character. I love everything related to the Empire. Like most like I have Empire decorations in my gym. My house is Imperial themed on the upstairs

black and white uh we've got stormtrooper helmet ruggable rugs in our living room tie fighter rug in my bedroom like love the empire so that like inquisitor or like the dark force users and you know dark side of the force users here for all of it you know they're not the good guys though like we know you know that you know there's just something like i like i like the different aspects like you can look at it like you can see the mental illness in some of the characters like how they get twisted and manipulated i think the storylines and like the evolutions, like Darth Maul going off the deep end in the cartoons, which you should watch Keith and how his psyche changes and things.

I will. You see the trajectory of Anakin, you know, Christopher Lee of Count Duke. I mean, Christopher Lee, he's like one of the most badass humans to ever live. Like, how can you not like him um you know all of like even Adam Driver in the uh sequels which I'm I'm not a fan of them but he did such a good job at that character and like showing the conflict and everything like I find that more compelling so that's fair one last thing for both of you or mainly joey honestly uh we can move on from star wars uh so assuming you did watch the last episode and and you're

up to date hold on what did what did you i was on vacation last week so maybe he didn't then i don't want to ruin it then oh i watched it but there is a 10 out of 10 chance that i was in the bag okay well do you remember because this was like this was a solid like five minute scene that kept coming back and forth what did you think of if uh of zombie fucking stormtroopers oh i remember that like as a zombie guy and as a like was that the first zombie star wars like Like those witches fucking re-animated and all these fucking stormtrooper dudes? It's the first to my experience. So my, you know, Star Wars is a fantasy.

It's not science fiction. It's science fantasy. I've said that before. It's wizards and witches and all of that shit. But I'd never seen the witches until Jedi Survivor. And until Cal's story. So i didn't know there was witches does it make logical sense that there would then be zombie stormtroopers absolutely but all i could think of is when deadpool comes across zombies he fucking loves zombies because you could tell them over and over and over and

over again. And they just keep coming. So I just actually remember watching it, laughing about zombie storm troopers and then thinking Deadpool would be in heaven killing storm troopers because they're, you know, they're storm troopers and zombies. That was actually my thought about it.

I'll give the short rundown. It again harkens back to animated Star Wars. They show the Nightsisters of Dothamir, who you see in the Cal Kestis video games and in the show. You know, their home planet, Dothamir, is where Darth Maul and like his species are from, too. home planet Dathomir is where Darth Maul and like his species are from too so like I mean underutilized in the live action but one of the most badass villains in the whole show like anybody especially people our age being a young younger kid and then you see him ignite the double lightsaber for the first time you can't say that wasn't just unbelievably badass so like all of that stuff you do see a lot of it and you can learn more about it if you consume all the content. So, yeah, I I don't like animated television shows.

So as much as I've always been like, I really I would probably read the Clone Wars before I would watch it because I didn't like their style of animation. I would watch it because I didn't like their style of animation. Yeah, I'm not an animated show person either, but like Dave Finoli and I forget the other guy, the people who are doing the storyline and the directing for all of these, you know, the Mandalorian, Boba Fett and everything, they did all the other stuff. So the storylines are phenomenal. And if you can just kind of like you after like a couple seasons you just get used to it and it's like not that big of a deal because you're so invested in the characters um you know i can't say enough good things about that stuff i feel

like i'm due to re-watch it all myself when i have time it sounds like that it's on disney i might as well because loki but loki just started too and like it's so good we i gotta catch up on that and they just delete they just released one episode though right it's not like there's there's gonna be a week to week gap yeah i don't i don't have i don't feel like i'm behind the eight ball already because i've i am pretty behind on a lot of stuff yeah you got time to catch up. Yeah. All right. Let's maybe do one or two more questions,

and then we can get into a little sponsored read and then unpaid and underrated. Well, why don't you go ahead and ask a question? I've got something to do here. Yep, yep. This was from one of the crew, and I think it was Jen, but don't quote me on that. So, Big Matt says, Will you ever do another Raw powerlifting meet again buddy i am i'm not gonna say no there's definitely a chance i am not exactly interested in right now but if it was like I don't know I I'm really enjoying the equipped journey because I have the added technical layer

on top of the strength layer um I think uh like Dave Tate said on Table Talk a lot of times a lot of people how they enter the sport is kind of the niche that they fall into now i didn't necessarily initially fall into equipped lifting um but when i first started seriously training for powerlifting that's when i found elite fts west side versus the world like all that stuff watching chuck bogapole videos like I always wanted to do that. And raw powerlifting meets were a means to the end of, I need to learn how to get through a meet with less variables and then do it again before I worry about adding the extra layer of equipment. And then it was also a time to establish like technique and a base level of

strength and things so i don't it's not like i was raw and then i'm like oh i want to try this equipped because the multiply was always the end goal i just took a three-year path to get into the multiply so i'm not saying i'll never do it again but you know is that where you're at now? I think, didn't you do single in Aberdeen or did you do multi-ply? So the reason for single ply in Aberdeen is because it was originally a USPA meet and anybody who's ever lifted multi-ply, you're not walking a squat out and you don't want to multi-ply bench in a combo rec. You want a competition bench and you want a monolith so you're going

to go out of your way to do rps then because i know rps has got a couple meets that they do so for anyone that's not familiar like uh just all kinds of power looking federations very few who still do monoliths uh rps is one that does and rps and wnpf is more of a local to you and i kind of sort of think it's more of an East Coast thing. But there is like the meat director, Ron, he puts a couple of meats on within an hour of you a year. And then RPS, I think, does one or two. They do one in Rochester and one in Buffalo ish. So I'm assuming you're going to cater to doing those or are you going to stick with USPA and just walk it out? So I actually i haven't signed

up for it but i already have my next meet picked me out um so rayanne miller that i train with i'm not sure are you familiar with her keith i've she's from barbara or something yeah i think i think i know okay i was i undershot them yeah she's a big gear. I know I've crossed paths with her in meets. been Jeff and one of their friends who trained with us. They've done a bunch of metal militia meets. So I'm going to do the one in Horseheads or Elmira called Elmira Winter War Zone. It's supposed to be a phenomenal meet. They do it like in a old rundown church or something. And you're like up on the altar lifting like a stage and something. They said it's pretty cool. She lifted in that meet before the winter war zone they do at the end of January. So you've got that. Or down by Big Eddie, the IPA is big down there.

And I know a lot of equipped lifters in Maryland and Delaware that train out of Black Flag Barbell. And they go into Pennsylvania for IPA meets. Like, York Barbell has IPA meets and stuff. So, like, in this area, there's a lot or anything in Ohio. There is tons of equipped lifting there still. Big Emmett Main Street Barbell, where he trains, is loaded with equipped lifters. So, you kind of have to just uh like in buffalo we don't have a ton of it other than like the one rps meet that's only a push pull um that i did last year

yeah i'm just gonna ask you about that i think that's that someone was trying to coerce me to to come out to that and i was like hey i just push pull and it's all like geared lifting kind of sort of i'm good it's what's happening behind you? So Steve was actually the only equipped lifter in it last year when I did that meet, but one of our training partners, Sean, he's friends with the meet director. I think the meet director is kind of ready to pass the torch, and Steve might be taking over that meet, and then he would bring Manos. We've actually talked about doing it maybe at Luke and Maria Bright's gym in Niagara County because they have all the competition equipment they bought for the original showdown.

So it'd be a lot easier. What's their gym? It's just a private facility. Okay, because they started the WRPF New York branch and then COVID hit and just destroyed that. They both walked away from it they were supposed to actually have the first showdown in niagara falls 2020 and then that clearly never happened and then it got took over and then it's already i think that morphed into the american open i believe uh right yeah but they brought all that competition equipment

and it's just in their private um it's like a home gym, but in a warehouse in Wheatfield. So who knows what's going to happen with that? So, well, that was my last round up. I don't know if Joey wants to touch on anything or if we can just move on to unpaid and underrated. What's happening behind you? Me? Yeah, it is like the cat's messing

with something behind you because your background is totally different. So yeah, I have my background's blurred, but if they're running into the curtain, Is the cats messing with something behind you? Your background is totally different. Yeah. My background is blurred. If they're running into the curtain, the curtain would be shit. There's a curtain. When we moved into the house, they had little fucking bypass doors on all the closets, but the closets

are only fucking 25 inches wide or something. We took all the doors off and just put curtains on everything. It's like a big floor to ceiling curtain. So if the cats are running into that, I would imagine that's what that is. So cameo by the kittens. I get it.

They're coming around. They're getting a little less... Somebody wanted me to ask you, or ask us to ask you, to FMK, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and Harry Potter. But I don't think that's fair because i do think that luke skywalker and harry potter are the same people how offensive is that take i i'm not here i i don't care about harry potter like my wife and her sisters liked it my older sister and my

younger sister loved it my older sister really she read those books over and over and over and over and like i read the four of them i don't care it comes down to like british culture i just i don't maybe i'm too american that i just like i'm i want nothing to do with anything where people have a british accent most of the time but what i'm trying to point out is the parallels between Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker are like, it's the same story. He's an orphan. Well, then obviously you have to pick Star Wars because George Lucas did it first before J.K. Rowling. Yeah, no, I agree. I would always pick Star Wars first.

I have to marry star wars for sure um we're gonna kill harry potter obviously and then definitely fuck with lord of the rings so in the wolf pack every single one of us in their huge lord of the rings fans like we do lord of the rings memes like uh big dylan uh president of north dakota huge Lord of the Rings fans like we do Lord of the Rings memes like uh Big Dylan uh President of North Dakota huge Lord of the Rings fans Emmett Eddie and Steve and myself and then we just like in the last couple months Gantz has watched them for the first time he's like now I get all the jokes like so he's in on all the work so we're constantly sharing Lord of the Rings things I mean Star wars is my bread and

butter because you know my whole house and we've obviously can tell but i do love lord of the rings and i have a lot of strong opinions about those movies and stuff too but they are some of the best movies of our generation for sure all right fun fun wolfpack fact my kid who's four the other day we were sitting at dinner and he turned to me and matt i swear with all of my heart that kid too sweeted me he's seen me do it because i do it to my wife sometimes and like if somebody's wearing an nwo shirt i'll do it and he walked up and he went daddy what is this and then that's the too sweet where did you learn that and he won't do it again but yeah that was that was a proud father moment you're like attaboy yeah attaboy you're gonna be okay. We need to raise our kids, Joey, on professional wrestling. We need to make that great again.

And I feel like my parents weren't white trash enough for me to watch wrestling enough as a kid. I played the video games at my friend's house, but I don't think I watched it much. But as an adult, if I have downtime on my lunch break, I'm watching wrestling on YouTube. Yep. For sure. Yeah, most of my TikTok and Instagram is wrestling memes, and I watch Boccia Mania a lot. I don't really watch live anymore because there's just nothing. Like Bray Wyatt's gone.

When Bray Wyatt was gone, I was gone as soon as he left but la the only reason the only reason to watch is for uh what's her name from australia oh ray ripley yeah she's the only reason to watch wrestling now really you know what i mean well she's there's rumors she's going to take over the bloodline. Or at least join it. I don't know the story. I just know who she is. Use your imagination. Why?

LA Knight might bring you back. He's killing. Whatever he's doing, he's killing it. He's great on the mic. He's big. He's muscular. He can wrestle. But most particular particular his mic skills

are like he's a lot of people accuse him from stealing the rock and stone cold's gimmicks but it's only because he's that damn good like he's got that big personality and everything and like okay i'll have to dig further into that and maybe start keeping, keep it up more. You know, what I do is honestly, I just like, I go on Instagram and I watch their highlights. Cause I can't sit through a three hour raw where it's three hours long, an hour and a half of that as commercials. Right.

Another hour is promos and you're lucky to get half an hour of wrestling. So wrestling. So I watch it. You just want to see the drama and that's it. know well i want to see like who showed up undertaker showed up on nxt last night for some reason like i want to see that kind of stuff i don't want to see god i don't want to see the boring interviews with guys i can't shoot promos i don't want to see you know the the jobber versus the big guy because they've got to push the big guy over and you know we'll feed him this local monkey like i don't want to see that crap it's boring to me so i would i

want to see that i want to see john moxley wrestle i want to see brian danielson or daniel bryanson whatever his name is now so i watch probably aew a little more but I've still got my eye on guys like LA Knight. Okay. But RIP Bray Wyatt. All right. I guess, yeah, don't forget to use our... I saw that Keith kind of just like blanked out for a second there. Yeah, he's like, wrap it up. Wrap it up, B. We're at the two-hour mark, so yeah, let's get some sponsors.

Yep. He's playing the playoff music. Yeah, don't forget that our other sponsor is Obsidian Ammonia. sponsors and he's playing, he's playing the playoff music. Yeah. Don't forget that our other sponsor is obsidian ammonia. I have seen some of some people using our code, which is code unpaid, saves you 15%. Go and try the new menthol cigarette. So let me know how it is. Lou, I know you're, you're, you're trying it right now. Don't know if you're listening.

I might have to harass you to listen a little more often, but let us know how that goes. Remember, code unpaid gets you 15%. As soon as Lou tells us he listens to a couple episodes, he'll be a guest. I wouldn't get Lou on so bad. He's so much fun. I have 100 people that listen every week and want to be on the podcast.

Eventually, we'll get to people that don't listen. I'll get to them at the Arnold and I'll start bothering them. There was a couple guys I've talked to recently. I've been reaching out to some people for the Central Future Guests. I've been like,

how are you liking the podcast? Based off their feedback, it's like, you're not listening yet, so I'm not actually going to offer you an invite just yet. But that can close out everything we've done so far. And let's get into a little unpaid and underrated. It's a game that we created solely by ourselves or completely original.

And are you familiar with the Big Matt? I believe you are up to date and listen to our episodes so you know that uh unpaid is unpaid equals overrated and it's not necessarily if you think it's uh you know if it's good or bad it's you know what's the general population's opinion on it and do you agree with that or not more or less so big matt i can jump in here get a couple going oh let's see number one for big Matt, unpaid or underrated game we came up with all by ourselves, CPAP machines. Oh, here we go. This is where the druthers begin. Ooh. CPAP Nation.

CPAP is one of the most underrated things. Obviously, I have one, you know, team neck meets, you know, you know, scants and Big Matt, not the Big Matt who's on the podcast right now, but there's another Big Matt who also has a C-PAP. You know, several of us in the crew, you know, kind of goes with being a big sweaty meathead power lifters, you know. It has changed my life. I tell everybody that I meet, all my coworkers. Other than the day I got married and the day that my son came into this world and I held him for the first time, the first night I slept with a CPAP on was the greatest day of my life. I have had mine for, we're coming up, this spring will be three years, and I have never missed a single day. I go off the grid to the cabin, no power, no phone service. We bring like deep cell boat batteries with an inverter, and I run my CPAP

off batteries when I'm in the middle of the woods. I refuse to sleep without it. If the power goes out because there is a wicked blizzard and there's four feet of snow outside of my house, I will get up in the middle of the night. I will start the generator and I will run one extension cord to my CPAP, sleep the rest of the night and deal with everything else in the morning. I love it. It has been the single best recovery tool and helped my lifting more than anything else. If you listen to Jimmy Kolb, sleep is the answer to the test.

Stan the Rhino Efforting promotes it. Even if you don't actually have sleep apnea and training is that important to you, go buy a secondhand one and sleep with it anyway because even if you don't have severe apnea where you really need one to like prevent strokes and other bad health benefits it's gonna boost your recovery and yeah phenomenal does it just push you in a rim cycle faster kind of because it puts you into like a deeper sleep because i know you only i know you only get like four hours of sleep some nights so so what happens is um i've always been a good

sleeper or so i thought like i sleep at night hardly ever woke up like to go to the bathroom even after a couple too many brewskis or anything like that like can sleep through train horns and fire trucks going down the street. But what you don't know is when you have an apnea event, you stop breathing, your oxygen level drops. Your sleeping heart rate might be like 70 or something. Then when you start breathing again, your heart rate will spike to 150 because your body is working extra hard to get all that oxygen back to your body. So it's the fatigue of the heart, which can cause the stroke, uh, cardiac remodeling. And then just like that calorie and energy expenditure of like, imagine like sprinting

for a second and then sleeping and sprinting for a sec and sleeping. Like that's what your heart is going through all night. So that's why you heart is going through all night so that's why you're not as well rested and then again also like not going through all the proper cycles of sleep because you're micro waking up every couple minutes or you know a couple times a minute depending on the severity that makes sense i'm glad you're glad you found that for your uh health and your uh you know your ability to lift more. That's a good thing. So anybody couldn't tell that is extremely underrated.

Not sure if I said that from the get go. Underrated CPAP machine. So number two for me, I've got, let's see, your wife wanted me to mention this Sudoku puzzle. Sudoku, Sudoku? I don't know how to say it either. I'm going to go extremely unpaid. It was a topic this weekend when we're at the cabin, you know, already talked about the power situation. Or, you know, when she's out in the tree stand because she also loves bow hunting.

Sometimes there's not a lot going on, so she might be playing sudoku on her phone um you know uh even if i am just a simple blue collar worker now there was a point in time in my life where i was fairly good at math like advanced calculus and everything in school like my dad wanted me to be an engineer because i was that good at math i have never solved the Sudoku puzzle once in my life. And I will tell you why. Sudoku is not math. Sudoku is pattern. It has nothing to do with adding or subtracting. It has everything to do with pattern recognition. And I share that with you.

I am shit at that. Human behavior, human patterns. I will watch you for like 20 minutes and I'll figure out like all sherlock holmes you will look up and down and tell you your past okay directions same thing algebra i was so good at algebra and you hand me a sudoku and i just see static i don't know i don't like this so no i'm with you on that one because it's not math it's patterns i could do math i can't do those patterns maybe i always associated with math because i was in like uh in advanced uh physics class like the second level in high school and uh you know the teacher was very incapable at his job i was the only one that passed

the exam my class because that's what my father did for a living was teach physics so he taught me the class at home while my teacher taught nothing in school and he gave us like oh today your assignment is complete a sudoku puzzle so i thought it had something to do with calculus and math because why else would we be doing this in physics? No, I just have a lazy piece of shit teacher. Yeah, you might as well learn coding. If you think Sudoku is math, it's not. It's coding. It's just recognizing the pattern

of this number to this number to this number to this number to this number. There's nothing to do with the math because 2 plus 2 equals 4 every fucking time, no matter how you put it on there. It just matters where you put it. That's pattern recognition, not math. So i'm with you it's the worst if you ever want to feel stupid pick up a sudoku my best friend's like no i got this and then my wife's like my wife was doing a what game it was jedi survivor thereor. There's a Sudoku in Jedi Survivor.

Oh, those puzzles are hard in that game for sure. And I'm looking at this and I was like, I'm going to have to Google this. And my wife was like, no, you're not. And she did it. And I was like, nope. I said, if you asked me right now how you did that, I would never be able to tell you. Because it was just, she's like, it's just Sudoku. I was like, yeah, sure it is.

All right, big Matt. My last one here for unpaid and underrated is going to be mullets. Something you're very familiar with. At least you were very familiar with. Hell yeah. Yeah. I still think,

um, I've got to go, um, with underrated on the mullet. miss mine a lot um it was a hard choice of like when to cut it like i started that at the beginning of covid like i got my last haircut like right before they shut the barber shops down here in new york like and then you know i've had had trims obviously to make it into the mullet but I really wanted to have it at the lift hard live easy classic but leading into that meet um you know it's summertime it's hot and uh one of the things I added to my lifting is a ton of GPP

or like you know cardio or whatever and I like riding bikes, sled dragging rower, like it was a wet mop every day. And I just, I couldn't deal anymore when I started doing all the cardio. And although I probably got more from my lifting from the mullet, just because it just gave some kind of energy. And I don't think my pit vipers look half as cool on me anymore um it'll be back someday when she says it's time to grow the mullet out again because the whole thing was her idea in the first place why i grew it so you know it'll be back definitely underrated you didn't have it at the lift hard live easy no i had uh i had cut it like the beginning of July, which was a big deal. I didn't tell anyone.

I swear I walked in. Okay. Cause I was late. Right. And I saw you and your mullet and I was like, Hey, it's big Matt. And you were like,

yeah. And then like, that was how we recognize each other. And I swear it was because you had a mullet. So that's, yeah, that's, that's a Mandela effect for me,

but I think who else had long hair no no it was definitely it was definitely matt because i was like that's big matt because he had a name tag with matt so i even talked about it at the zoo with i believe diet tanner also cut his hair correct he had long hair at the meet I don't think he does anymore oh yeah no he cut his hair well that's fine that completely my brain completely said name tag

big Matt mullet that says me because I did I did recognize you right away and said something to you his wife has long hair she has shoulder length hair I guess low past yeah you're right. I definitely thought his wife was him. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm just trying to help you out.

Yeah. If I had my wife's hair, I would never cut the mullet because she's got those tight curls and like the dudes that have like the really curly mullets that look like a perm. That's like Tommy hair. That's like next level. If you've got that hair and you cut it into the mullet, you are are the peak of mullet right there you know all right all right let's get going

to the next one uh okay i got a couple here that i added during our conversations and some other ones um uh unpaid or overrated unpaid or underrated jumping through folding tables you know that's a tough one to say because like have you ever done it i think i have i i've jumped through things i it's one of those things like do i remember like even if it wasn't at a tailgate like every like cookout like afternoon backyard before a four o'clock bills game like maybe not i think i think what i'm going to say i'm gonna say unpaid because they're kind of grown bigger than just the bills mafia.

And now it's just a drunken NFL tailgate thing. But like, because that whole thing, like the phenomenon started here with our crazy tailgating is because like we suffered so many years. We have like the diehard loyal fans who have loved the bills, even when they have sucked for all of my lifetime i don't remember the jim kill a kelly era i was a like baby basically then so we still had fun at bills

games like i you know they're getting destroyed doesn't matter like we're still happy to be there we're drinking jumping through tables like in in its infancy it would have been uh underrated but now that it's just every team does it and like the bangles they're crazy sure they're crazy they're not bills mafia and that's just me being biased so you know whatever maybe i had a little bit of that hipster elitism about it or whatever even so yeah we're gonna go um unpaid for sure the the bangles fans jumping through tables are the equivalent of the oh my god i'm so weird on tiktok or and it's just them like they're at dinner and they like stick their tongue out and they're like oh you married such a weirdo yeah like yeah they're trying too hard. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Unpaid or underrated. T-Swift. Second week in a row, T-Swift has come up. I have been a fan for so long. I have been a fan for a very long time. Like 15 year old Matt through like when I moved out of my parents' house, T Swift calendar. I remember it had to be the junior in high school. It might've been the 2009 or 10.

One of those Christmases, I got a T SwiftSwift calendar in April oh and I had a buddy who had the same calendar that that picture she had in the month of April which is my birthday month I'm like oh I have been a fan and I've been a fan of her music so I worked at a there's like a local to Buffalo like a hot dog restaurant whatever they get real busy in the spring and summer it's my first job in high school and like they used to play like pop music and you know how like retail playlists are anybody that's worked like uh you know any kind of job like that like you hear the same songs over and over and like some of them you loathe but like some of them you just latch on to and like when you're 16 17 year old kid and you're there with your friends and you're just mopping up the restaurant after close

and you're belting taylor swift into the mop handle like it's a microphone like those are core memories you know and um you know i've listened to taylor swift through college and then i met my i'd known my wife but we when we started dating like she's loved taylor swift forever too she's had like you know whatever like the high school boyfriends that broke up with her at the right time to make the music hit extra and everything and uh actually funny thing is this saturday we are going to the imax to go see the concert uh movie or whatever that's coming out, which like, I love that. Yeah. Like, so whatever I don't, I am not independently wealthy. I cannot afford tickets to one of her concerts. So we're going to go and we had to pre-order movie tickets to go see the movie

of a concert because she's such a phenomenon. But like building my house, my wife, like it's one in the morning and we're laying flooring and we've got taylor's version of red on 11 in the house just shaking the walls like we're getting back to like 10 years ago like when that like hit different because we were younger and you whatever you know coming of age type and taylor swift was like the peak back then for me. So I can't say that she's overrated even though she's one of the biggest, or I can't say she's unpaid even though she's one of the biggest people

in the entire world right now. I'm a little over the whole NFL thing. I'm not really into that. I don't follow any of that, but I'm going just off of, I love the music. I love the re-releases of all the albums and i mean who's gonna deny that she's not a good looking woman like all of that underrated for sure hell yeah i just miss that she you know doesn't sing country music anymore like i stop it i don't

think i've listened to a single song she's done in 15 years since she got out of country music. Or like eight, ten years. If you haven't heard Trouble and didn't like that song, something's wrong with you. That song was incredible. It all sounds the same to me. Oh, here we go. Even if those ones aren't my favorite, I still listen to them. I still appreciate it. But just listen to the old stuff or listen to the Taylor's version version of the old albums because like the re-releases are even better that's what

i listen to 99 of the time oh she's she's re-released in her country stuff is pop is that what you're getting at no it's not even as pop just like some of the music dynamics have changed like the music's tweaked a little the vocals are a little different but like um you know speak now and everything like the other side of the door taylor's re-release is like my favorite song it's like that song that's so good that like no matter what like i get chills when i listen to it as lame as that sounds like i just love that song that much that version 10 times better than the original and that one came out in maybe 2010 so yeah you can listen to those so it gives you

something new but it's something you're familiar with and you like and depict the subtle differences between the two i find interesting and your enthusiasm filled me with great happiness uh unfortunately it went a little long, so I'm going to give you two, but these are rapid fire. I want 60 seconds or less on both of these. Okay? Okay.

First one, Unpaid Underrated, General Grievous. Love his character, but he's a total wuss and he runs away from everything. I am going to have to go unpaid. As cool as he is, he will not stand up and fight. He will run from any conflict at any given time. And the more Clone Wars animated you watch, the more you'll see that pattern. So, unpaid.

Okay. Last but not least, Hollywood Hulk Hogan. I mean, he's the man. He is the man. I love him. Like one of,

in my first powerlifting meet where I met big Keith in person for the first time, I wore Hulk Hogan socks. And I remember the head judge complimenting me on my Hulk Hogan socks and then not realizing that that is who was judging my meet was Dan, who's barn I trained with at the crew. And, you know, now we're friends and everything. So it was just cool. We had that little connection over Hulk Hogan. So completely underrated because he is the man.

He's the Hulkster. And he started. Well, he didn't start, but the NWO. Well, founding member of NWO. Yeah, of course. I'm trying to keep it under 60 seconds here for you. That's what I was going for. I wanted to hear the for life stuff, right?

Which led to the Wolfpack. All right. Well, that's, i think you passed unpaid and underrated great job great job add that to my instagram bio that's so funny you know mauser actually did do that i know i love that so much he told like when they talk about guests they get it he really got it you know what i mean if you do that if you add past unpaid and underrated on the unu we will share the shit out of that that's hilarious i'm gonna do it tonight why not absolutely i put on my facebook too and no no one in my family will understand i don't even have facebook oh yeah just cause why not okay i think it's time uh we do have a little bit of time to move on

to the uh we're all in the same time zone now i think this is the first guest i think we've had that's in the same time so it's because i've been trying to run a crew of uh of lift hard live easy and it's only a handful of us actually came in from you know not local so uh it's kind of nice actually being on time to move away from that midwest shit it just brings some more people from our time zone um what do you got for us i think it's it's your time yeah i got a couple questions uh you know uh some of these that they don't have to be super long answer so it doesn't you know i know we're running pretty long so far. One of my first things was, you know, all three of us home gym owners, basement gym owners, you know, Keith, definitely a little bit of an equipment junkie, maybe more so than you,

Joey, but I know that you also kind of like the minimalism side of things. So one piece of gym equipment for the rest of your life, what are you picking to try to cover everything? Barbell. Barbell and plates? Yep. If, you know, does it, if, can I include the rack? No, that's two pieces, right? Fine.

We'll do those, we'll do those dummy squats, right? Where you just like, you press it up onto your. The Steinborn. Steinborn, thank you. Yeah, we'll do those dummy squats, right? Where you just press up onto your... Steinborn. Steinborn, thank you. Yeah, we'll do those. Yep. We'll floor bench. Right? That barbell. Me and that barbell. Speaking of memes the other day.

And Star Wars. It might have even been you that shared it. It was like that scene when Darth Maul is walking back and forth behind the um me looking at the dumbbell rack me looking at the barbell for 10 minutes in between my sets that's me that's me just like you're my guy you're my boy blue that was that was a pretty easy one for me actually thank you okay ke. Okay. Keith, how about you? I mean, it's hard because I'm...

Did he freeze for you, too? He did. He did freeze. We'll have to do... You have to say that again, Keith. Call it a weight set or... I'm just going to kick him out. It'll just be me and you for a minute. God damn it. I think you said a weight set or something. It'll just be me and you for a minute. God damn it. I think you said a weight set.

I heard a weight set and a Steinborn. Yeah, it must be. I would do the same. Oh, hell yeah. So for me, I'm going to pick the sled because I feel like you can get every part of your body jacked and cardio and do like joint healthy movement with it. And I love sled drags. And I feel like if I just had that, I don't even need plates because I have a sled that lives at work. And I put pipe flanges and anything heavy on top of it and go out on lunch in the parking lot and just drag that thing around.

You know, pull it with, you know, face pulls, anything like that. I'm picking the sled you know to try to keep it as simple as possible and then try to keep a you know have it as a cardio equipment because i hate running and i hate cardio so that were as it shows is none of my stuff fits anymore sorry i'm sorry keith you really did you cut right out and we started having like a whole conversation in that time no you're good my i kind of just uh was was nitpicking that it could only be one item so to me plates and a barbell multiple items so i don't know but if if i live in a world where i can pick both then yeah i would do some variation of a weight i don't know like a barbell it has

to be barbell if i couldn't pick a barbell, maybe an adjustable kettlebell. I don't know what the fuck I'd do with it, but I'm a meat and potato. Give me a barbell, squat rack, and a deadlift platform. I'm good for the rest. He's not a botanist. Obviously, thank goodness this isn't the world

we live in and we get to have all of our toys. I'm not a botanist. I got another quick one here for you Thank goodness this isn't the world we live in and we get to have all of our toys. Not a butness. All right. Go ahead. I got another quick one here for you guys. I'm not sure. I know we've talked about like you eating before your training and your schedule and things. And I have like some weird tendencies for like food around training.

So we'll break it into like a two category. Favorite pre-lifting meal upper body day so like bench press day or lower body squat and deadlift because i have different answers for both i can do upper body fasted and still perform well uh lower body if i'm working out in the morning i want a couple of eggs i want some avocado toast just something that's going to just fill me um i might be an outlier i don't really care it's what i ate the night before that really starts to affect me and you know like i had every intention this morning of getting up at five in the morning and getting into the gym but last night i decided to eat ghost pepper chicken wings

so i did not sleep very well so like that affected it i just said no i'm gonna sleep and go to work and work out when i get home um and what did i have for lunch? I had some chicken and rice. I would say there was a time I cared more and now it comes down to remember the old days of carb loading? You used to carb load the day before. If you knew you had a big lift you would eat a ton of carbs the night before. That's where I am now.

Our P10 push tomorrow on lower body, deads or squats. I'm eating pasta the night before. Mm-hmm. Makes sense. The Clyde Cajun stores and all that. How about you, Keith? Did we lose him?

Yeah, I think we lost him. Okay. Well, I'll give my answer then quickly. I have like specific. Oh, here he is. Oh, he's going. All right. You're back. Yeah. I don't really have specific foods. I just oh he's going all right you're back yeah i don't

really have specific foods uh i just it's more about timing for me so my my biggest work at the week is my sunday so as long as i get my my normal breakfast in between seven and eight i'm good to go uh which is typically just a bowl of protein cereal uh during the week if i get home early enough i'll train before dinner if i get home late enough, I'll train before dinner. If I get home late enough, I'll eat a late dinner first. It's just the normal shit I'll eat the rest of the week. I very seldom am I like, oh, I need to specifically eat this because of this.

I control enough shit in my life that if I tried to control that too, I'd fucking probably go crazy. I will tell you the one thing I don't want before I work out bacon i will strategically not eat bacon on days i lift because you're fucking tasting it all day you got to do a you got to do a big deadlift that your body's like you're not going to do this you're like shut up

buddy i can do this the bacon's gonna go you cannot i am to do this. And you're like, shut up, buddy. I can do this. The bacon's going to go. You cannot. I am going to creep up and tickle the bottom of your nose and you're going to taste bacon while you're trying to lift. So I will tell you that that's the food I do not want to eat before I lift. It's funny, Joey. I'm almost like the opposite.