Unpaid And Underrated - 024 : Try This Goat Anus

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Ryan. They dive right into great topics like gingers, blanks, chipotle, TV commercials and of course death core. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @jackedandginger (https://www.instagram.com/jacked_and_ginger/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jacked and Ginger.

and welcome back to episode 73 of the unpaid and underrated podcast we are a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big key that i'm joined as always by my favorite co-host here big joey your favorite uh thanks i mean, Kevin is a close second. I mean, he's right there. But, you know, I'm a creature of habit that you've been here for 99.9% of them. You know, you edge him out. And we also are joined by our special crew guest this week, Big Jack and Ginger himself, Big Ryan. Howdy. How are you guys doing?

Wonderful, my friend. Well, Ryan, what are you drinking this week, buddy? Let's just dive right in. I am drinking some sort of, I'm guessing a grocery store brand, it's called Simple Truth Organic Seltzer Water, a tangerine lemongrass. Ooh. Is it more tangerine or is it more lemongrass, you would say? Definitely tangerine. You know. It's very essenced. It's not super intense. You don't want heavy lemongrass. You can't go too heavy on the lemongrass.

That's true. This is true. I don't know what I'm talking about. Lemongrass is delicious. I'm not sure what lemongrass even tastes like. It tastes like if you rolled a lemon in grass and ate it. That sounds bad. No, it's delicious as shit. But you rolled a lemon in grass and ate it like it's that sounds bad no it's delicious as shit but you definitely don't want to go too far into the lemon grass

realm it makes sense for a seltzer because it's very essence and like you know lemon grass is a lemon essence you know ingredient it's yeah it's literally lemon essence to grass i got a pretty good one this week i can't i don't think i've had it yet uh on the podcast it's a wegman sparkling water uh watermelon flavor and it's really good um it literally just tastes like kind of like just watered down watermelon like like the watermelon juice that's left if you have it like in the you know the bottom of a bowl or something so it's pretty tasty i'm a fan i give it a i give it a 3.75 okay so like what's better than fake watermelon or real watermelon flavor like like watermelon jolly ranchers versus like an actual watermelon watermelon i think but this is good because it's got the carbonate like whereas the watermelon's like almost flat if

you will whereas this is like you know spiked carbonated so uh ironically i've been like my wife's been buying watermelon maybe like once every two weeks or so just like some pre-cut up stuff we're paying way too much for it but it's like you know it's you know it's healthy-ish for you so i'm like it is kind of weird like the same day i'll have like one of these and then i'll eat some watermelon and i kind of do it to go like which one is they're both good but this is more refreshing almost, because there's, I never have the risk of this being over soft, like a watermelon might be, if it's kind of like, you know, sitting in the fridge a little bit too long.

Yeah, I'm definitely a watermelon, like the actual fruit, like the watermelon flavor doesn't do it for me. I actually like both, and for different reasons. That's interesting. I have something new, so the store that I go to to buy my ghost energy drinks and pay way too much for them, they tend to import from all over the world.

So I have something from Korea. I think it's from Korea. I honestly don't know. This could be wrong. But the label honestly has 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 languages on it. And the last one is English. Yeah. It says

serve cold. Go ahead. Are any of those languages ones that you wish you had learned? To harken back to one of our questions. Yeah. So drank met stook yes, course gold gel down. had learned or or when you know to to harken back to one of our uh questions yeah so drank met stukias cost gold gel del citrinen muntzmach suker on zoe steffen uh then you have bevanda and alcohol chica corn peset so that's spanish boss on of fruit plate, which is French. Anyway, so this is a Mentos drink.

This is called a non-sparkling Mentos lemon and mint with jelly bites. That doesn't sound good. No. So they had three. Like the breath mint company Mentos? Yeah. And I love Mentos. I love Mentos.

I love soft mints. the black licorice ones they have are fantastic so i saw these and i bought three of them and i had an apple flavor a berry flavor and then i saved the lemon and mint because i figured it's going to be the best one for today but i will warn you there's literal gel do you remember Orbitz back in like yeah how it had those little jelly it has those but bigger and grosser so every once in a while

like you can't drink this you have to sip it or you get a mouthful of boogers that's interesting so anyway we're going to try this on camera. Let's all listen to Jody suck on some boogers. That was a healthy crack.

That last crack on the first can wasn't that great. Citrus and mint don't sound like a winning combo. To me, it does, and it smells fantastic. Okay. Except for the boogers that's amazing like absolutely that's incredible that is exactly as it's supposed to taste mentos knows what they're doing man one fun thing about this though um trying to read it here because again there's almost no english I'm trying to read it here because, again, there's almost no English. There's no salt.

There's no sugar. No, there's four grams of sugar. So this is a pretty decent macro. Is it booger sugar? It is booger sugar. So as far as Mentos, do you guys think like I think I've seen more Mentos commercials in my life than I've ever consumed a Mentos

like I just remember I just remember those being like very popular overran commercials and they were well because they had

the stupid song and they're yeah yeah Mentos goes with freshness yeah and then they'd have like this but I feel like that

was around for like 30 years straight too like they'd like they had the exact same kind of like theme which is good because like i i like when brands like keep almost identical commercials and just kind of like or keep like the same like theme music or something like like i miss the taco bell like little dog guy like that's been probably 20 years since that's been a thing but like i still associate that with taco bell just because it was like i don't really watch live tv or consume a ton of commercials i guess i mean all the half the apps will watch have commercials if you have the cheaper app or the cheaper versions of them oh yeah i don't really i just zone out when those are on and usually

they're just commercials promoting themselves half the time anyway so like i just think like the stereotypical tv commercials we all grew up watching or like they're just not really a thing anymore. Even with the commercials like Super Bowl commercials lately just been, you know, not great. Not like they were back in the early like to late 2000s. It's not funny anymore. It's just all just they don't have the same pizzazz which joey i don't know yeah how much you've seen like super bowl commercials and whatnot but they used to be like a you know actual fanfare like it was a bit it was almost as good as the actual game itself i i do i used to pay attention to those

because somebody who studied public relations and marketing it was always of note to me but i think the major mistake we're running into now is they all get leaked the day before on the internet so the brands leak them and then you've already seen it so there's no reason to watch the Super Bowl for them now up in Canada half the time they replace them with our commercials

because they're products that aren't sold in Canada so do you think they pay a nauseous premium as well up there for that? Probably. Yeah, okay. Authorized exporter South Korea. Yep.

It's coming from the non crazy Korea. I don't know if I would trust North Korea just yet. Not with all the not to get political, but yeah. Is this uranium?

No, one of my good buddies, he and his wife are actually living in Korea right now. South Korea, probably. Yeah, South Korea. Let me go ahead and clarify South Korea. They've been there for about a year and a half now. They love it.

Everyone speaks English over there. They just have a great old time. Hell yeah. It's cool. I worked with a kid that ended up quitting working here to go be an English translator or teach English

to people over there. What's the term for that? An English teacher? an english translator or uh like teach english to you know people over there whatever the what's the term for that an english teacher well but yeah but like the language of english not like the you know not it's gotta be the same thing it's gotta be an english teacher teaches like book reports and shit i don't think he's doing that but regardless no an english like capital e english teacher teaches like book reports and shit but like somebody who's teaching the actual language of english is still just teaching english so he was he's been doing yeah he did that for several years and like met like his wife did the same thing too and they met over there

they seem to be happy i think they're sexually still there honestly hell yeah yeah he's i think that's pretty much what he was doing um and he's actually one of the ones y'all reached out to uh for some of my questions so yeah oh yeah yeah one of your buddies did say he was in korea i did remember that so uh so we're gonna move into uh what's everyone wearing i'm just gonna point out that i really like what big jack and ginger's wearing it's uh you know you want to tell the world what you're wearing there? I honestly forgot I had this shirt until maybe two weeks ago going through my closet.

This is the white shirt, bench heavy shirt with the blue logo. I don't even remember when I got this. It was probably two to three years ago. I don't remember that. I don't think it's been a live shirt

since i've like been in the world or at least like if it was it would maybe short-lived maybe i or i just completely like wasn't paying attention to drops at that time maybe i'm not sure but uh i'm rocking the new pbr the new gray pbr shirt on the uh on tanner's new blank that uh i uh i i did get the 2X. I've been like most of my, all my XLs from the last batch of like the last several batches of blanks have been a little too tight. I can't really wear them anymore. So I've bumped up to 2Xs on the last like, you know, four or five shirts.

I think he did warn us that this one would be a little big, but I didn't want to downsize. So I stuck with 2X and I almost feel like I need like a one and a half X because I think a 1x like would be a little too snug and a 2x is just a hair too loose so i don't know what to recommend to people to buy if like because it's maybe downsized uh but because if you upsize it will be a little baggy but i mean it's a good looking shirt it's comfortable it's just a hair bigger than i'd like it to be i got that one in the other day i almost wore it tonight but i was like you know let me wear something that probably hasn't been seen in a while yeah i got this this medium shirt on right now i like when people pull out shirts

we don't have yes i've got the weight is a number heavy as a feeling actually we went to um meet the parents or meet the teacher night or whatever. And this one got noticed. A couple of people stopped and was like, nice shirt. That was pretty funny. Although I don't look like I lived because I'm just fat. Right. But like,

it is pretty funny. Yeah. I just, speaking of blanks, just bring back the huge life blank. Just bring back that blank. That's the good one. I'm curious if this is,

I mean, cause this one's sized like that, but I feel, cause I think, cause my huge life, I still have as xl and it fits kind of perfect so maybe this is the same huge life blank and i should have just got the xl but i don't know i was i still think an xl on this would just be a little smaller than what i need but i don't know but they're you know tanner did his best he did actually put out some videos like we busted his balls to the point that like he really did like a good thorough like like this is a two X on a guy.

That's like six foot eight, you know, 190 pounds. And you know, it looked like it fit him pretty well. I was just going to ask, I forget does for the huge life shirt. Was that like a, that blank, any other shirts and seller? Was it just the huge life? Just the huge life. I don't think they've ever used that one and that's the original shirt yeah yeah that was the one that it's like um you know i feel bad i don't buy a lot of their new shirts but when they re-release the old ones i'm like the first to get

those because i've been pushing for the mass dynamics is numero uno and the huge life it's like those are the things i wish i had and then they released them and i got them um i finally came in and bought some large shirts i can't keep doing this so i just bought some large shirts but it's just nice to have some oversized stuff right you know like just you you can't always go around looking like you bought clothes too small on purpose no i uh just actually bought some so my gym was doing a limited run on like acid wash and like tie-dye shirts so i was like you know what let me go ahead and get one they only have like xl and like double xl and they have one double xl so it's gonna swallow me i put it on i was like oh god i don't know what to do and then i

finally just started wearing it around like's actually pretty comfortable I enjoy this I feel like people won't be like oh that guy's wearing a tight shirt did you get that in the kids section? yeah you see a lot of bodybuilders wear oversized shirts too right for that reason just because like shut up leave me alone

so we'll see if the largest I got in see if they if they're any good speaking of bodybuilders anyone get a chance to watch uh mike's tease gym for the hit today a few hours ago i'm sure i'm sure i know joey didn't but uh do you have a chance to watch that right it's just watched it like uh 30 minutes ago nice yeah i think i i like What did you think of it? I mean, anything with Mike Isvertel I'm going to enjoy. He's one very smart, very funny guy.

I was laughing completely throughout the video. Very good. He had some funny lines. I honestly couldn't tell if he was joking or not. I think he was on the truth, but he had a lap pullover machine. And he said that he's literally too wide for it. I was like, oh, this must be a nice problem to have.

You're like too wide for your lap pullover machine. One thing that he said, a couple of things that really stuck out to me that I chuckled at. But I think the one was they pointed to a deadlift jack. And I think everyone calls it a deadlift jack. I've never heard of anything other than a deadlift jack and I think everyone calls it a deadlift jack I've never heard of anything other than a deadlift jack and he called it a deadlift unloader and I just that just stuck with me and I laughed hysterically

and then there was a chalk bowl I think everyone calls it a chalk bowl like even if it's a bucket or a bag like I think everyone I think he did call it a chalk bucket or no it wasn't a chalk bucket or no a chalk it was a chalk bucket it wasn't a chalk bowl whatever the fuck he said i can't remember exactly what he said but i was just like oh that's a chalk bowl but you called it a chalk bucket or something i was

just like it's it's such a such an irrelevant thing it just stuck out to me as being amusing so but i really enjoyed the gym tour um i i didn't it obviously you can tell the difference between a bodybuilder and a powerlifter of some sort in terms of a powerlifter is that I'm completely in love with infatuated with barbells and he was like yeah I don't give a fuck about my barbells I'm like really particular about my machines but he didn't give a fuck about his barbells

and he just kind of laughed about people having an opinion about barbells and it's just like I could give a shit less about the machines that I would ever use but yeah I want my barbells to be exactly what I want my barbells to be the stupidest videos on the internet are people showing their lap pull downs i and it's like i get maybe it's just not for me and i understand that but like you know you just get this picture of somebody it's just from behind and they're just doing these fucking basic like lap pull downs i like no weight or even if they are doing heavy weights it's like

nobody cares man like sorry but like it it's not a it's not a fun looking lift it's not an attractive lift if you're wearing a shirt we're not seeing you flex. So I'm with you on that one. I think that it's just not my world. Whenever he was talking about the mag grips, I was like, man, he said he didn't like them. I found that very interesting because I love the mag grips. I think they feel so good. Just fit it nicely in the hand and just lets you get a good pull. I love them.

Yeah. A couple of times I've used them, I don't know. Like I haven't had enough. I've only ever used them in commercial gyms, like briefly, usually fighting some other fucking meathead to get the right one. And then there's like literally nine different ones.

So I'm sure like you'd have, I think I'd have to have like the whole arsenal and like spend like a couple of weeks with them to find like which one kind of fits my body and my, like my width and like my angles, you know? So I don't know, but I wouldn't,

but there, there's like the a hundred dollar Amazon knockoff ones that people are buying up left and right. That say they feel just like them, but I don't put much stock in knockoff shit myself. I have no clue what you're talking about. I haven't watched the video yet. I had like,

I worked all day and then had parent and then hit the gym, had a shitty workout. Then did I had a nap because i was so exhausted yeah yeah oh i walked in the house i i just bought some 35 pound dumbbells and i put them down on the floor and i was like okay i gotta take those downstairs and then i walked into the bedroom and was asleep in seconds and are the 35 pound dumbbells still on the floor or did you actually take them downstairs? No, my wife took them downstairs because my dad was like,

oh, another trip hazard. And she was like, you're right. He's asleep. I'm going to take those downstairs. I feel bad because I was like, no, I got to get rid of those. But I couldn't keep my eyes open. I was out in seconds. I'm curious if Morgan was able to carry both of them at the same time, like farmers carry

them, or if she did one at a time and then double fist it. I'll find out. 35 is a decent amount of weight. Yeah, but my kid weighs 40. Can she carry two kids like that simultaneously? Farmers carrying

two toddlers? Tune in next week to see if you know if it was a suitcase carry or a farmer's carry do you get some bubbles they're so delicious the flavor is so delicious and then just like the jellies just like

tickle you on the way down do they kind of disintegrate or do you have to chew them oh you you chew them i'm not chewing these i'm just swallowing them whole okay so you're just you're just you know taking them down okay yeah i genuinely would be like chewing like embryos like i didn't i don't want to deal with this is the worst texture ever that's such a weird but the lemon mint itself is so good just kind of like good flavor and strain that out like it's weird and it has to contribute to the flavor like immensely because they keep something that foreign in there and anytime i get something with jellies or tapioca's or something you know it's korea like they just they just put shit in their

drinks it's weird i should have should have seen that coming from the beginning. It's that really popular drink. Bubble tea? Yeah, bubble tea. I think I've had that once and I was like, this ain't my jail. This is like eating a fucking loogie. Yep, I'm against it. I ain't for it. I'm not a huge fan of these, but this is the last can.

It's going. It'll get done. I'm assuming y'all have never had oyster shooters before. No, that sounds like something Joey would drink though. No, I've had oysters. I love oysters. But an oyster shooter. Assuming it's something with alcohol.

You know, down here in the South and all that, we have a lot of different seafood restaurants and whatnot and they each do some version of an oyster shooter and uh generally it's like in a shot glass and you have like some sort of you know pepper vodka or regular vodka then like cocktail sauce and then an oyster in there and then you take it like a shot and then some people will you know either just swallow the oyster whole some will chew it and they like depending on where you go it's really really good i usually chew my oysters but i'm not i'm not

i'm very aware of how quickly oysters can go bad so when you shuck them and they bring them out to your table there is like not a ton of time in between you removing them and eating them and them going very bad and i distinctly remember i was going to a party one time and i was like i'm gonna bring oysters to this party so i put a bunch of oysters in an ice tray and the worms swimming around in the ice tray after because we were just throwing the shells back in there. I was like, Nope. Well, I think they live on the shell or something like you, you can't like seafood in general is so gross and so full of just shit and

microplastics and other seafoods. Like you're not eating a fish. You're eating everything that fish ever ate. Damn, it's just not delicious, though. Oh, no. I don't have to eat. I'm in, but you've got to be aware of that. If you eat an oyster, you're

eating some parasite in that oyster. You're not getting away with just oyster. There's no such thing, unless they're farmed. And if they're farmed, you might get lucky that they kept the water clean. But water attracts gross stuff. So either way. Yeah, no, I've never had an oyster shooter. Probably won't.

But we'll see. I'm not one to say no to fun stuff. I mean, if you ever find yourself down this way, just ask me where to go. Hell yeah. You're taken. Absolutely. We got plenty in Charleston. Because if I can drink this crap, I can drink an oyster shooter. I mean, it's not much

different. It's just a little bigger loogie, basically. Oh, geez. To put it lightly. Speaking of another fishy loogie, how did everyone feel about last week's episode of the Mass Comics Podcast? Why are you saying fishy loogie?

Oh, it was supposed to be a funny segue, but it really wasn't. Oh, okay. Did they say something about fishy loogies? There was no context. There was no context. Other than just like, let's just bust their balls a little bit.

I'm just going through the whole episode going, there were things I wanted to talk about. Nope. I struggle each week when I listen to so much because I listen to 90% of the lives outside of the ones that are going on when ours are going on.

So it's hard for me to remember to, to, to distinguish the difference between the 45 minutes I listened to last night. And then the two and a half hours I listened to on Monday. So it's like, fuck, that's why I don't listen live.

Can't it? Yeah. But I, it's so much for me, it's so much more enjoyable to just like, I feel like I'm that much more invested in the crew when I'm like, when I get that 45 minutes and like, you know, it's like, know it's like oh i'm texting and they just responded to what i said like that's just i don't know i could get off on that i understand that but i also just like

i need to limit i personally need to limit the amount of people talking into my ears for the rest of my life like that is i just need to limit that yeah so like become a podcast host and you know every week interestingly it was when i started posting this one that i stopped listening live because i'd probably just make me being sensory overload of humans talking to me um uh it was funny that they brought up um robert oberst being on the righteous gemstones because I brought that up the day that episode aired. I was like, hey, check it out. I know this guy.

And I thought it was really funny that I recognized somebody. And then we started talking about the Masonomics crossover to Righteous Gemstones. And I think it's funny that we're getting another person from that show on our podcast in the future. So we'll talk about that when it happens.

Yeah. Whenever we're getting one, uh, he's an upcoming guest, so that should be a really good one when it happens. And it was funny. They, they,

they did talk about, I think it was Tommy that pointed it out. Cause his wife was like, uh, on Louisville and last night's, but whatever's close enough. So, you know,

uh, they were talking about he's like oh this is the massonomics adjacent because over was a podcast guest uh and then she was like wow is everyone in massonomics on this tv show uh so i do i do distinctly remember that part um oh and and then tanner saying howdy at the beginning of it i pointed that out in the discord so he's like howdy everybody welcome to i was just like like i think i made that face with like the scrunched up like no no that's not i say howdy sometimes myself but but he doesn't no and then he did and it just it's not that it was bad it's just that my brain was like

what did he just say because it's like not the it would be like if he said the podcast about nothing and didn't say nerf him right yeah so that i distinctly recall that as soon as he joined i was like i thought to myself traveling's changed you man you saw too much of the world now man you're saying weird stuff anyway five jds five JDs for this episode. That's a good rating. I'll give a quick little recap of what I thought. Overall, it was good.

I always like when they shoot shit. You just kind of feel more invested, I believe. That might have been the first time they mentioned the Crew Falls meetup, which would be really cool. We'll get into that a little bit later. I think my favorite part of the episode was right at the end when Tommy went to go do the outro music and he hit the intro he was like oops or what he made some audible actual sound that didn't get edited out and then

they hit the outro and i was like oh that's like just like the little small things they're just they're just guys like us that just, you know, shit happens. It was just funny that they left it in. I really enjoyed that. So for all those reasons, we'll go ahead and give it five out of five this week on the old JV scale. Yeah, I, you know, I thought the talk about them trying to find the bathroom and all that was really funny. That made me, you know, really get some laughs in the car. And then talking about Robert Oberst, that was pretty cool.

Because especially when I first saw him, I was like, oh, shit. I didn't expect him to see him here. But then that made sense because on his Instagram stories, I'd see him at a local gym. And I didn't put two and two together at the time at all. But, yeah, that was great. And then I will say they didn't have any Sam Sulik talk, but I remember that's, you know, puts a damper on things. So with that, I'm going to have to give it five JDs.

All right, good score. I feel like the bathroom thing could have been out of like Harold and Kumar. With them just like trying different bathrooms and then finally getting to elite fts and being like score and like high-fiving that they found like the best bathroom in the city that like that would have been funny content if they'd first saw that coming yeah that that really like kind of heart that really spoke to me as a guy that like works out of a band has to you know basically shit on the road every single day of the week it's like i don't have the luxury of uh you know having a consistent place to go to the bathroom

in the morning so that's uh very much spoke to me it's so weird because like i have um like me like i have medical things where i just use the bathroom a lot and so like i've just resigned to the fact that sometimes you're going to use gross' bathrooms. Otherwise, you've got to bring change of pants. It's interesting that I have friends that are like, no, I can only go at home. I'm like, how does your life work? How do you exist? I'm kind of that way.

At least I was until I switched shifts. I'm kind of rearranging my schedule to put it nicely. But, you know, I'm definitely an at-home pooper.

Oh, I can't imagine doing an eight-hour shift and not being able to go. I go like three times during an eight-hour shift, and they're all fucking photo finishes. I can't imagine. Like, I'm like, oh, you're Paul Floss in it. Yeah, like, I'm Paul Floss in this. like i'm like oh you're paul floss in it yeah like i'm like getting there um but i think the big news we got to talk about the big massonomics news

is uh date confirmed yes sir july 20th 2024 90 lifters platforms, and a bonus strongman competition after all of that. So we're going to go from having everything start at 10 a.m. and finish at 1 to starting at 9 a.m. and finishing at like 7. But I think they're going to. So they're going to. So I'll clarify a little bit because I'm a little more familiar with power limits from what I've read. So they're going to do an 8.30 start. They're going to try to abbreviate the rules meeting by Dave's in and out digital version of it. They're going to run two platforms.

So instead of one platform with four flights of like 15 people, it's going to be two platforms that both have three flights. So technically, the entire meet should only be three flights versus four flights. That should be done by two ish o'clock. But it just it's going to be double the work for Dave spotters. And look, you're going to have double the judges, double the spotter and loaders, double the weight in the back, double, you know, two combo racks. Like everything is going to be legit doubled. So it's going to be a big step and challenge for them. But, yeah, to get that many people and try to actually get it done in

five or six hours there it has to be two platforms uh and then yeah i haven't decided if now if i'm going to do powerlifting or strongman i've never done a strongman competition but as morgan pointed out if you're going to do your first one you want to do the first one with the crew because even if you fail everything they're still going to be there for you. So now I've got until November to decide that. I might just not because I still think 175 pounds is the limit, and I'm still not there yet. And I don't really want to get there. I'm very uncomfortable at 170. I think I'd like to get back down to 160.

But 10 pounds does apparently make a difference. Me walking around like Capacula, just fat and stomping around. apparently make a difference me walking around like capicula just like fat and stomping around like so but i i will be competing providing i can get in there on the sign up day yeah that was a we had a little heated discussion about that in the discord today no dice i think the funniest line i've ever said to you was in that conversation yeah that was uh it'll be there on meet sign-up day. Like, here you are panicking about how to sign up. Well, it's last year.

Like, it sold out in a day or two. And, like, there was fucking only 60. So, yeah, there's going to be more slots. But I can only... So... So last time, he opened it up to gym members and crew. He's still going to do that, but he also,

no, we're getting first people. He said, he said crew and gym members. So he's going to leave at least 15 gym members. I think he said crew first and gym members next. I will put a hundred dollars on it, that it's both the same time.

And then, but he, but then he followed up with basically like, they're going to try to limit the amount of just locals and like, just people that that like like do Dave's meets and I'll just travel from like Fargo and shit. It's like just try to keep it massonomics and massonomics adjacent because like 90 percent of the members are crew, but they're still massonomics. Yeah, they're part of the gym. And then obviously we're all coming in for crew. But I'm curious how many people were like, like, I'm curious how many people in 23 are going to come back to 24 solely for just like the expense and then like talking to your family and being like let's do it again i feel like i feel like at least three quarter of us will i'm flying in i'm not

sorry steve i love you i can't do that again if i'm competing i think he's gonna he wants to drive in and compete and i think as somebody who has at this point like done two competitions and about to do another one i don't think i want to do that plus also like the driving in was awful just because like drive sleep drive sleep like i would much rather fly in spend the money on one hotel rather than like five hotels and then fly back like Like I'll show up the Thursday, I'll leave on the Monday, I'll book off the time. Steve can drive if he wants, but I'm probably just going to fly to Buffalo.

Yeah, I mean fly to Buffalo. Fly out of Buffalo. Okay, fly out of Buffalo. I'll park at your house. Yeah, that's fine. And we can go to the airport together. I'm right next to the Rochester airport, but Rochester doesn't go very many places.

So you don't, you got to go to Chicago or fucking Atlanta to get anywhere. Yeah. So figured that that's what I'll do. I'll just fly from Buffalo. The only trick is then you're still either flying into Minneapolis, you're flying into Sioux falls, or you're waiting like another six hours for a layover to get to Aberdeen on a

little puddle jumper. So that's fine. Puddle jumping, puddle jumping. I mean, that's what I would still do that. I think over getting the car, but it just fucked us on the way back because our flight changed from like

an 11 a.m. departure to like a fucking 7 a.m. or 6 a.m. departure. I was like, oh, cool. I guess I'm not,

I'm going to drink three beers and try to go to bed then. Well, Keith, we'll fucking do it live. Yep. Let's do it. We'll do it live yep let's do it we'll do it live i'm just gonna i'm uh just you know i'm very excited for it uh it's gonna be a good time um i will say the one change that i'm gonna make this year is staying at the fairfield instead

of the ram coda you know everyone is having fun at the fairfield and i'm over like halfway across this town just you know alone at the ram c and I'm over like halfway across this town just, you know, alone at the Ramcota. I'm like, what's everyone doing? Yeah, I remember you were legit out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, we stayed at the American. Yeah. So you're still close to the Fairfield. Yeah, I'm just going to stay at the zoo.

Like, I'm just going to just rent the room above the zoo. Like, it's like an hourly motel where I'm probably gonna get killed but like just get a sleeping bag and sleep on the floor of the top shelf oh yeah nice nice that floor no offense to the zoo i love you guys but that floor felt like that drink I'm going to drink. Let's set my drink out on that one. Oh, that's another change I want to do is I'm going to actually go top shelf this time. I did not do it last year.

You almost have to. I didn't even think about it. Yeah, we're going to make Bryce a sign that says like top shelf ambassador. And if you didn't go last year, he's dragging you up this time. That's fair. I understand. And I'm not going to start drinking at 10 a.m this time because i'm going to be lifting so like like i think last time i was like just sitting there and i think lou had a beer i was like dude it's fucking 10 he's like yeah i was like can i have one he's like, yeah. I was like, can I have one? He's like, yeah.

I was like, what are you doing? All right, I'll join you. I waited until after the meet to start living easy. And I think having the strongman meet after this time around will be even more fun because I can actually you know enjoy the the beer a little more i think watching some more lifting i'll bring some jagger because i want to make sure i have jagger on on for the deadlifts because it's always nice to loosen up before a deadlift right i mean in my opinion oh yeah there's also uh the potential for my um i've been urging jagermeister to start like a Jagger lifting club like the Little Debbie's one and they're not biting they're not

at all interested so I told them that I was going to make a shirt so just gonna make one not gonna sell it or anything and they gave me like not approval but like you know the silent nod in social media form that's kind of what I got but I was talking to someone.

Like, no, don't do it. Yeah. It was essentially like, do what you got to do, buddy. Like, it was just one of those. I was talking to somebody who makes shirts and she has actually said, well, I'll design that. And I was like, oh, that's one step closer. I was like, I don't know if I want to sell them because of controversy. like oh that's one step closer it's like i don't know if i want to sell them because of controversy like i don't want to step on anybody's like toes but if it falls under satire laws like

there might be i'm not putting it out there now because i might pursue it a little harder but there might be a collaboration between me and a rather large company uh that everybody's familiar with doing a jagermeister barbell club that be sweet. I think it'll be fun. Looking like you had a couple here. I'm assuming you added these last two. Yeah, just generic shit. Because people seem to like when we just talk about generic stuff. Just shooting the shit. Yeah.

We're probably not going to get to the interview. We're just going to shoot the shit for 45 minutes and go ahead and shut it down. Then we'll dive right in. Good call. Then we'll dive right in. I was just thinking today of like coffee i fucking love coffee and i've been off and on it right sometimes i try not to drink it other times i drink it um but the the most life-changing cup

of coffee i ever had you guys know that i'm a fan of Black Label Society, right? And Zach Wild makes a coffee with Death Wish Coffee. It's called Valhalla Java. Well, for Christmas one year, my wife ordered me a bag. And at the time, I was getting coffee from Tim Hortons every day. Because it was just what I was used to. I could not get used to homebrews.

The first cup of Valhalla Java I had changed that. And suddenly now, I love dark roast first cup of valhalla java i had changed that and suddenly now like i love dark roasts especially valhalla and you can't get it up here in canada anymore i gotta go to the states in order or something crazy like that because it's like 80 a bag to buy up here but i'm just wondering like what's the best cup of coffee you ever had see i'm not a huge coffee drinker um uh you uh, you know, if I, you know, happen to go to Waffle House or something in the morning, hungover,

I'll get a cup of coffee. But, uh, if anything, if I do get something coffee adjacent, I'll get, you know, some sort of latte or an espresso drink rather.

Cause I, that just tastes better to me. And I enjoy that a little bit more, but I love me a latte, a chai latte or a pumpkin spice latte. That's tasty. Oh, the pumpkin spice. Yep.

It's delicious. No, I just, any sort of latte with like a little peppermint syrup in it, that does it for me right there. I love it. It's hard to say what the best one is, but that's all I need. Hell yeah. A little peppermint latte. I'm going to stand what the best one is but that's all i need hell yeah a little peppermint latte so i'm gonna stand on the hill i'm gonna this is another hot take of case that everyone busts my balls about here we go you guys are all wrong but i am not a coffee drinker i think it's a horrible flavor

i was forced as a child to make my dad's coffee every like night like like he had like a you know i had to like basically like dump out the night before with a new filter and make the coffee have it ready set the timer have it all ready for him it's like just a childhood chore i think i had to do if i was like fucking 17 or 18 years old oddly or maybe when i started driving i basically called my mom i was like i'm not doing that anymore i'm i'm an adult uh yeah i don't know i was just like so i just i never drank coffee it was just like one of those spiteful things that like you just you hate as anything you were forced to do as a child. I always like revolt against. But I drink tea. I drink a lot of unsweetened tea. That is my jam. I used to like, you know, do like like like hot tea in the morning pretty regularly.

But I've been getting like these like just like one liters of unsweetened tea from the grocery store that actually tastes decent. And they're only a couple of bucks. And I just I'll drink one of over a two-day span on my drive like into work or to the job site and that's just that's my jam like i said i used to like have a contigo and go through the effort of microwaving the water and all that shit i'm just like yeah no that's that's like six minutes i don't have anymore so yeah just give me give me my bottle of pre-made unsweetened tea i'm good with that i i didn't drink coffee for years until I started a warehouse job. And in order to, you know, garner favor, the shipping companies would show up with coffee, but I didn't drink coffee. So I got nothing. So here's all these people enjoying these free

coffees from these shipping guys to one day. I was like, I guess I just have to start drinking coffee. And then from there on, I just loved coffee. I don't think you're wrong. I don't think coffee is a great flavor. I think coffee is an acquired flavor. But I do think you are dead wrong. Tea is disgusting. It's just boiled leaves. My wife drinks it all the time.

There's one or two that I can stand because I think they're black licorice flavored. And I kind of like those. But but ultimately i do not like tea i drink neocitrine before i'll drink tea i was just like being from the south and all that like you know tea is a religion down here um you know somerville the area just a little bit north of here is like the birthplace of sweet tea and granted i don't like unsweetened tea i'm not a big fan my girlfriend loves it but i can't do it i'm like the slightest little bit of sugar she's like oh that's too sweet but you know i love a good cold glass of sweet tea that's what i if i'm going to drink tea at all that's what i want i don't think there's

anything more stereotypical you could have said today other than other than roll tide roll tide actually i expected the somerville somerville and some art like you know then i will agree though that like 80 of the teas out there do suck like like i'm just a very spitting and like i like i'll drink green tea and black tea and maybe like if i'm trying to go to sleep i'll drink some chamomile or something. I'll have a variety of teas in the house, but a lot of them are just shitty. Yeah, because it's all shit. When you find a good one...

Hey, Keith. You have to find a good one. Keith, do you want to drink some boiled water right now? No, that doesn't make any sense. Okay, but what if I crushed up some dead stuff in it? Like, that's just... No, tea's disgusting, but i mean that's my personal opinion i'm not gonna like i don't i

don't tell my wife i'm not spending money on your shitty tea like she enjoys tea i buy for her because she enjoys it like that's great but just stop offering it to me i'm never gonna say yes so yeah i can definitely vouch that i uh one thing an odd thing though i remember like growing up and like just being in the grocery store walking down the coffee aisle where you can make your own grounds or like like do your own grounds there that smell is actually good like i don't mind the smell like to the point that like i remember as like a young young kid i would like like go up to it like actively like like waft the smell into my face but then like just drinking like remember like my just drinking

in like a cup my dad's tea is like you know like a 14 year old or something and just being like this is fucking disgusting and like to only and i probably i'm sure in my life probably drank a couple pots of coffee like over the course of like you know 38 years but uh like if i drank it i put a shit ton of sugar and creamer in it it's because i was just trying i was so hung over and i just needed to be functional in that morning. It was like, you know, before I got into tea in my,

you know, thirties. So. And my take isn't like only tea, like coffee's also just bean juice. Like it's not just burnt leaves. These are burnt beans. You ground up some beans and run some water through it and drink the,

the brown water. Did you drink it if it didn't have caffeine in it? No, my wife drinks decaf, but it's drink the brown water. Would you drink it if it didn't have caffeine in it? No, my wife drinks decaf, but it's essentially just, yeah, I think you've recalled one of the beginning episodes, I told you the brown water story? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's kind of just like that's...

Number one and number two on brown water. All right. Who's got the sponsor read today? So, I usually don't do this, but we'll go ahead and dive right into the sponsor read this week i'm just gonna go ahead and talk about the uh the the the massonomics crew fall meetup so we're gonna be in sioux falls on december 9th uh for the uh basically it's you know the massonomics meetup i don't think it has a better name than that just yet or the crew fall meetup yeah so there's four of us currently flying in i know myself two two of

the west virginia boys there's a mystery of florida lifter that no one has revealed who it is curious who that is so i'm gonna we're gonna keep kind of hounding the discord to see if that actually comes out or just gonna be a surprise floridian a floridian what's a what do you call those floridian floridian yes yeah it means that they really like fluoride yeah yeah it's something in the water down there for sure so you know uh i think the three or four of us are already booked for the hilton garden then so that should make things a little bit easier for uh getting our crewbers around town so yeah if you guys are in the area i can't imagine i can't see an excuse for if you live under i would say almost three hours like i think that would be like where you

could reasonably drive there saturday morning you could make a three-hour drive spend the whole day there even if you miss the breakfast and just get there for the lift and the after party if you don't want to or you know if you don't want to drink all night or whatever, but like, if you're in that, you know, half hour to two to three hour window or like time, like there's no reason not to go. Like it's, you know, I think we've got 20 of us signed up for it, give or take already. So, and that'd be cool to blow it out. They've already got a sick gym picked out for it. So I just agree. So December 9th, Groupon's meetup.

That is your horrible ad read done by Keith this week. That's why I don't do it. Excellent. That was the best ad read I've heard today. Well, shit. Definitely top of the last three hours. Well, I would love to get a guest on,

I think. I think it's about that time. What do you think, Joey? Let's kick everybody out and we'll get them on. Big Jacked and Ginger, is that you? That's me. Howdy. Howdy. Welcome to the Unpaid Underrated Podcast.

Oh, I just got that he said that. That was good. Yeah, welcome to Unpaid and Underrated. It's good to be here first thing i want to say is the mustache top fucking tier mustache thank you that is that is good work i i trust it's all self-growing knowing that i grew it myself yes yeah that's i'm used to the beard this is top tier a lot of people at work were taken by surprise when I walked in.

I'm going for a mix between Jonathan Oldham and Deathgrip Derek. I'm kind of right in that middle ground. I would say that's Daniel Plain's view. Alright. I don't know who that is. There will be blood. Oh, but... From There Will Be Blood.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I Drink Your Milkshake. Oh, that's the really famous actor. What the fuck's his name? He's retired now. But he is one of the best. Daniel Day-Lewis? Yeah.

Any plans to wax and curl it? I used to do that. And now it just naturally does it because i use beard oils and stuff so i can i can kind of keep it all yes i remember the one day my wife likes to tell the story that i was like hey honey look my mustache touches my eye ow my eye because like i felt it as i was showing her i just you know i haven't gotten any wax yet i might try it but uh i don't i don't know how long I'm going to keep the actual the ends I might just keep it trimmed up around the mouth

but I don't know we'll kind of see I kind of like it the more I look at it but who knows my girlfriend hates it traditionally what they used was ear wax like you would just jam your finger in your ear then like and twist your mustache but i so i actually i actually used to use mustache wax

to keep i hated trimming my mustache i really like having a long mustache but the mustache wax would keep it out of my mouth while i ate and that was important but now like drinking sparkling water or beer it catches on the can it fucking hurts oh yeah so i had to start tripping that actually didn't happen to me for the first time not too long ago i was uh out with some friends i was drinking a middle of the light and just like every time i took a sip it would just grab a mustache it makes that ting sound when you pull it has it gotten you has it gotten stuck in your teeth while you're eating? Oh, all the time.

It hurts so much. The corners go in my mouth. It's not a pretty sight. When I decide not to trim it, I want that big over-the-mouth mustache. You'll be eating a sandwich, and then one hair will sneak in your mouth and get stuck in between your incisors, and then you'll go to close your mouth, and the mustache, one little hair

will yank. That is unsightly and unpleasant. I'm not even here. It just sounds weird. It sucks. But also, I love your mustache. Thank you, I appreciate it it my girlfriend does not uh but you know yeah well she can start her own podcast and have you on it and then

see how she likes it then you know the beard will come back after halloween i just wanted to you know keep you know let it regrow fresh and all that good stuff because i try to do some trimming and it didn't work out well and you can you look close so you can see some like weird spots. I was like, yeah, let's just go ahead and knock it down. Now,

are you going to utilize the mustache in your Halloween costume this year? If you do anything for Halloween? Uh, that's the idea. So, um, I'm thinking most likely I'll, I'll be a Lieutenant dangle from Reno nine one,

one, get the white boots, new boot. Um, but then also I can do like the, uh, I'll be a Lieutenant Dangle from Reno 9-1-1. Get the white boots. New boot goop. But then also I can do like the, like a 1930s, like boxer, you know, or an old timey strong man,

or there's a lot of, a lot of, a lot of opportunities with this mustache. Yeah. You get the, get the, the, the singlet with the one strap.

Get the real deep. Yeah. The one strap too. And the one boot. Get the real deep. Yeah, the one strap too. The one boot. That'd be sweet. Hey, so, whoa! I'm on a swivel chair here and it just lost gravity. So what brought you to Massanomics? You were here before us.

So, I remember, this is probably six years ago or so watching, you know, basement Brandon's videos. Um, I used to see like the lift,

uh, logo banner in the background. I was like, Oh, that's pretty cool. You know, whatever. And then didn't really think much of it.

I might've like looked at the website once for sure. It's just something, but I didn't buy anything. Uh, and I was, you know, starting to listen to podcasts and like getting into that and i was listening to this one called iron minds podcast i don't know if y'all have ever heard of it or remember it um but it's just three guys you know

they were you know shooting the shit most of the time had very similar to how massonomics just without the silly goosery um but they ended their podcast i was like man i don't really have any other lifting podcast to go to i might have been listening to like uh the broadcast with brandon allen and and andy wong but yeah apart from apart from that one i was like you know i want something else like to to kind of fill this void. And so I literally just Googled, I was like lifting podcasts. And sure enough, like the mass, the massonomics website popped up and, you know, it had like top 10 list lifting podcasts. And of course they were, you know,

listed on that too. And so I was like, all right, you know what, let's give it a shot. Very smart of them to do that. And so I was like, all right, you know what, let's give it a shot. Very smart of him to do that. And so I was like, you know, let's give it a shot. And at first I was like, I don't know, not sure how I feel about it. And then I just kind of started listening, like cherry picking a little bit and, you know, seeing what I liked. And then I started buying a shirt and then I became a supporting member. And then, you know, the rest is history. Did you get in before they started regularly doing guest interviews then?

Or was it like right around that, right when they started kind of? So I wrote down the first episode. I think I'm not sure if I went back to this one, but the first one that I have that I listened to is episode 153, which was March 11th, 2019. Yeah. So I've been listening since around that time.

And yeah, it grew on me the first couple episodes. And I was like, you know, these guys are great. I love this. Was that was Tyler was already gone by then, right? Like he and I was like, you know, these guys are great. I love this. It was, uh, but that was, Tyler was already gone by then. Right. Like, and he would have been like,

cause he was only there for the first hundred or so episodes, I think. So yeah, it was just Tommy and Tanner. That was like, that was like generation three of like, what's been like a five generation podcast. I feel,

I think when you, when you kind of first got into it. So that's, uh, that's awesome. I think I always love hearing people's origin stories because it's always a little different, but there's always some similarities.

Like I think it was Big Steve a couple weeks ago, you know, essentially he was listening to a podcast. It kind of just ended and then, you know, just reached out to something else. And, you know, I think I was kind of in the same boat. I had that void for a couple of years before I actually found them. And like, yep, these are my people.

This is, this is my jam. So that's really always cool to hear. So what, so what numbers on your crew card? Uh, 64. Ooh.

Oh, I wonder if I beat you. Uh, I've been a member since eight, 27, 21. Okay. I can't find mine at the moment it's in my other it's in my other fanny pack um but i think i was 63 because remember when i posted the picture

and then i was like so close to i was like so close and i was saying how close to 69 i was but then somebody was like yeah we didn't mean to spell your name wrong i didn't i hadn't even noticed my name was wrong i was much more interested in what number i was that was really funny that's funny i think i might start asking everybody that yeah i might and then maybe even putting it yeah we might need to like preemptively add like ask them before yeah i don't know off the top of my head i think i'm low 100s though i mean they're like 98 or like 107 or something, I think. Yeah, I'm definitely going to still bring it up. I pulled this out before.

Oh, hell yeah. I was like, you know, just in case. Just in case Joey brings it up. I don't know if I believe you. If I didn't see you do it, Ryan, I don't know if I'd believe you. I don't think I've ever seen a guy with a mustache pull out before. He better. Ten months until the lift hard, live easy.

Everybody. Now, that was actually good to bring lift everybody everybody in the crew I'm telling you right now whether you are a chocolate chip or a guy don't be pregnant or get anybody pregnant now keep it in your pants just lock it up

start pulling out, jacking off in the dark whatever you got to do nobody is missing this for babies next year out of context that'd be great that's a it's a pulling out like all the crew that had sex in the last like like five or six you know even two weeks yeah fuck am i gonna have a newborn and not be able to show up? They're like, oh no! That's what pulling out is. Some other comedian, Nice Things, talked about this, where it's just like

you're having sex with somebody and then you pull out and then it's just you. Yeah. And then, yeah, it's like they might as well not even be there. And that's kind of the funny joke I had there. But yeah, don't I don't want to hear anybody in. I'm just going to like, yeah, it's like they might as well not even be there. And that's kind of the funny joke I had there. But, yeah, don't – I don't want to hear anybody in. I'm just going to, like – yeah, no more babies causing you to miss this. Miss the Arnold, but don't miss this.

Don't miss the Arnold. I will definitely be there. So going back to the, you know, 2024 meet, I will say, in your defense, Keith, earlier I was also – before I got the automatic invite, you know, 2024 meet, I will say in your defense, Keith, earlier, I was also, before I got the automatic invite, you know, with winning big Dave's Instagram, you know,

contest thing. I was also very worried about, you know, signing up. I was like, God, I swear. I'm like,

Oh, I remember that was a thing. I like a month ago that you actually won that. That was cool. Cause it was, yeah, it was like share, share my shit,

you know, when a free entry to any meet. And then I think I asked him like, does that count for the lift hard, live easy 2024. So yeah, I didn't ever see any followup on that. So that's cool that you won that.

That's legit. Yeah. Yeah. That I will 100% be there now. I mean, I basically, you know, can't not go.

I'm going, I'm going either way. Even if I don't get into the meet, if I don't't get into the power lifting i'll sign up for the strongman if i'm gonna the strongman i'm still gonna show up but this i'm gonna i'll bother them for a press pass this year and it'll be fucking hilarious because that's what i wish i had done last year is just because like there were times where i'd go into like the warm-up room everybody knows me but like maybe some people don't, right? Like Larry Legend has no clue who I am,

but most crew knew who I was, but it would have been so much more interesting to have like a press pass. It's like just got the Massanomics M and it just says press, but I'm literally just here for this podcast. I think if we're both lifted and we should try to get,

if there is someone there that's not lifting, they're just like basically the one at Joey next year, like just come in and hang out and support. Like we need to give them just to our Instagram that weekend and be like, here, post stories all day long because we're too busy. Yep. That would be cool.

Cause I do feel like we could have, I feel like I was just so overwhelmed and immersed that I was like, I'll throw some stories up here and there, but it was like, I'm busy. Like, I don't like, sorry. Like, like I want everyone to overwhelmed and immersed that I was like, I'll throw some stories up here and there, but it was like, I'm busy. Like, I don't like, sorry.

Like, like I want everyone to be in this world, but like, fuck, if you wanted to be here, you'd have been here. So, so I hope there's just gonna be,

I feel like it's just, it's going to be so much better with more people next year. It's gonna be so fun. The only, I think the one downside is like, it's gonna, it's gonna be the ODI shrink again and mother fuck. It's going to be a hundred degrees,

but at least if we all know it I'll just like bring more water basically and maybe like bring some ice from the hotel that's all me and you will get those little nerdy things that people put around their neck that have the fans that spray their face

right we'll just walk around looking like one of those guys I won't be like Eddie who drove and was able to like bring his actual like 20 volt dewalt or i would be like fan but i could you can get one of those little neck ones off amazon for like 20 bucks it's like the side of it's like the size of headphones so that might actually have to be a thing honestly that would be a that actually probably a really good like 30 investment for that weekend you know but who knows it could be fucking snowing in aberdeen that week for all we know.

I didn't actually think it was too bad in there. I mean, near the end of the meet at Deadless, with the hype and all that, I was getting a little sweaty, but it wasn't terrible to start for me. Yeah, the fire also, yep. Well, does the commercial gym you lived at,

is it AC or is it just like pot of shit? Yeah, it's air conditioned but it's you know if there's a lot of people in there then it can get a little warmer um but it's a great spot i love it nice well i was just trying to get it like if you're you're you i know you're from the south but like are you used to training in the heat too where it's like i'm spoiled and my gym is between 60 and 75 degrees year-round, basically. So, lifting in an 80-degree room, I was like, oh, I'm dying. It's not too bad in there. It's definitely warmer than my old gym that I was at. But, yeah, it's not unbearable by any means.

Nice. Well, as someone that's been around the podcast a little bit longer, a little bit longer than we have, been buying merch a little longer, what's one piece of Mathomics merch that you wish you had bought that you missed out on? See, I was thinking about this, and really, it's hard

to say, but honestly, I really do wish I got the original Yeah Buddy lightweight. I mean, that's a it's a great one um maybe the huge life because I never got that one obviously like the the the blank is so highly sought after so it's like I want to know what it feels like but when did we become this like it's such a silly fucking thing that like we're buying t-shirts and now like the main chat is about the blank.

And it's Tanner's fault for doing it. But it's just, I've never heard that phrase. I've never heard anybody care about it more than in the past, like two weeks. We're like, what blank is it? What blank is that?

You're paying $35 or $40 delivered. $35 for it what blank is that you're paying 35 or 40 delivered 35 dollars for a shirt no you're not wrong if it doesn't fit nobody's nobody's wrong like i want my shirts to fit it's just so funny that you're like because of that blank is so sought after imagine that sentence a month ago we'd all be like? When I did my run of t-shirts for my gym, I had to like specifically kind of like, okay, it's going to fit. It's going to be like a 50-50. It's going to fit like a normal shirt. Like, like it's not a fitted shirt. Like I had to like go into detail.

Kind of explain like how it fit and just kind of what it was. So, so big Ryan, do you want people to find you on Instagram and Discord? What are they going to look for? Uh, on discord, I'm big jacked and ginger. Uh, and then on,

uh, Instagram, I'm just, you know, regular jacked and ginger. There's no big in the name. Gotcha. So speaking of jacked and ginger,

we've got a question here from a, uh, a former host, the mass comics podcast, big Tyler stone. He wants to, if you had to pick one, would you rather be jacked or ginger? Oh, I mean... You can kind of take that any way you want, but... Let's see.

I mean, I haven't been jacked my whole life, but I've been ginger my whole life. Honestly, out of the two, you know, it's hard to give up the ginger part, but I definitely think that I would rather be jacked. You'd rather be jacked. You can't go wrong with being jacked. Have you got a lot of shit for being a ginger over your life? Just the whole like no soul joke and all that, like just stereotypical ginger shit. Absolutely. I mean, you know. South Park fucked us for a little bit yeah some of the guys i used to work with uh one of my first jobs at uh

one of the golf courses around here like you know i got so much shit for being a ginger and it was like you know it was one of those things where they were making fun of me because like they they did like me but uh it just giving me shit but one of the guys he he gave me a nickname he was like all right i'll either call you irish or ginger which one would you prefer i was like well i don't like either of them and he's like so i was like i mean i guess just ginger and then it got shortened to to jenny and then that just became my name for i mean i don't they still call me that to this day but you know even around the golf course like for the next eight years i was there it's just like oh yeah hey what's up jenny and like you know it's someone tried to call me by my real name and he was like no his fucking name is jenny it was like okay so

you know it's it's been like that my whole life. But, you know, a lot of fun to come with it. Sometimes I'll hit them with, that's our word. I like that. When they're like, well, look at the ginger. I was like, you can't say that. That's our word. You can't say that. I'll get right serious on them.

Did we mention who that was from? I don't know for a second. Big Tyler Eppingstone. We got a lot of questions know for a second. Big Tyler F. Stone. We got a lot of questions for you from crew. I want to point out. Normally, we don't have this many, so we got a lot this time. That's a good question to start out with. I like that.

While we're still on the jacked and ginger train, Big Coach Karp wants to know, who is the most jacked ginger out there? God. I don't even... Chuck Norris. Yeah, that's a good one. I don't keep up with too

many jacked gingers. It's like... The first one that comes... This is the first person I think of because I get called this at work by one of my buddies. But Sheamus, the WWE wrestler. Yeah, that's a good idea.

So I'd have to go with him, I think. Celtic Warrior working. I mean, apart from me, but I'm not as famous as him. I'm the most jacked. Sheamus got really jacked for a while there, and then I guess must have been on a bulk because he went from

being shredded to just being big. But I mean, he's a big dude. I've always liked watching him. Always liked watching him. Yeah, I saw a video he and Juju were at one of the gyms a little bit north of me uh probably a couple years ago i was like oh shit you know that would have been cool to go there and

and you know meet them but yeah i was way after the fact that i saw the video let's do the uh i'll do the last one that i got from crew um and jump ahead here so this one's kind of funny uh so big big uh big big foot guy mofo wants to know are you a before or an after picture of big chris daminger yes and where am i where do i fit in there does that hurt us jen i think it was, it was Jen demanded. We get that picture with the three of us. Yeah. I'm in my kilt fat and then you're all shredded.

And then Chris is, I'm not sure you were at the time. Yeah, that was, that was fun. No, I remember, I think the first night we were in Aberdeen on Thursday when we were at pounders and you know, I was, we were sitting there talking for a little bit. And then Jen was just like, Oh my God, there's two of them. We just started busting out laughing. That was great.

Well, you know, we, we touched on it earlier and I think it is, it is worth, it is one of the things that I got Tanner to announce when Tanner finally took over the microphone and he was just giving like pieces of info on all the lifters. I was like, don't forget to mention that he was on the righteous gemstones in the God squad. So I mentioned earlier that we had a connection, you know, Robert was on the main podcast, sorry, the sister podcast. And now you're on ours. And like the mass economics universe and the righteous gemstones

is just like shrinking because i love that show before i even knew you were on it i was watching that show right and so like i think that's really cool is there um the god squad is probably not coming back right no they uh that was a one season thing do you see any i don't like the way this is worded so i'm just gonna say like who would win god squad or crew oh i mean that's i mean so the god squad has you know the the jackedness and all that like and god on their side. But a crew's got numbers. So it's like 300 and something crew versus 14, 15 jack guys. That's a tough one.

It's such a silly question. I'm sorry. It is. Who would we exploit? My dad could be a big bad. Through the power of friendship, I think the crew would win yes yes the squad the real squad is the friends we made along the way that's right

it's not about what you know it's who you know that's true and we know at least two of the strongest people on the righteous gemstones we got Robert and we got you both mathonomics or mathonomics of Jason.

Krayat. That is Krayat. So I usually don't dive too far into people's occupation, but I'm just from one of your friends, or I don't remember who gave me this, but they just gave me a Mercedes team member as your occupations. I'm

assuming I alone elaborate on that. I'm curious of what you do for them and uh yeah so i'm uh you know all of the so i work at the mercedes benz vans plant uh here in charleston so you know we produce all the vans for all of north america um which is pretty neat and uh yeah i'm in the paint shop you know kind of started on the seam seal line if you most likely have no idea what that is um i didn't before i started there but uh essentially it's just like feeling the advance for water tightness like if you go to your car look at like open the door look at the seam on the edge like you'll see a little ribbon of you know like hardened pvc that's what you know i started out doing but right now i'm just kind of you know floating around uh learning new stuff and uh just getting passed around the shop

yeah now on first shift which is what allows me to be here on this lovely evening with you gents. Yeah. For everyone. I offered a big Jack and ginger a spot on the podcast like three months ago in July. And at that point he was working third shift and it just wasn't second shift. So you would have physically been working when we're recording. So it just wasn't an option. And I think, like I told him then I was like,

well, hit me up. It never changes. I think you made a comment either on Instagram and the discord that you're on a different shift. And I was like, I reached out to you and like, we, I was like, hit me up if it ever changes. I think you made a comment either on Instagram or Discord that you were on a different shift. I was like, I reached out to you and we had just scheduled a week ago. I did lay that as bait a little bit. I am excited about it. I was like, oh, I'm on first shift now.

Sure enough, an hour later, he's like, you want to be on the podcast? I was like, yeah. Spreadsheets come in handy. For three months, you were on the spreadsheet. It was not available until shift change or something like that. And I was like, good stuff. Yeah.

So I'm happy to be here. Yeah. I'm glad to have you, buddy. Now, why don't, why don't we have your brother? I understand that you're very proud of how attractive and cool he is.

That was what he gave. Oh no, I know. I know. I know. That was what he gave us. Oh no, I know, I know. That's hilarious. I could only have guessed that that was him. He's not a crew, that's all I can say. It was funny because I expected him to follow up on that with something legit and I was just like,

a lot of your friends gave me a lot of random shit that just didn't get copied and pasted into here. I was like, well, that's just a random story that I don't know how to incorporate into anything other than your personal experience with him that's not relevant to him. I was like, no, I don't know

what to do with that. That's fair. I'll tell you a quick story today my kid um i gave my ipad to my kid okay and i didn't factory reset it i just removed all of my information and i guess it kept a bunch of my pictures on it and he found uh this cat meme i had downloaded years ago that is a picture of essentially a cat smirking and looking a little a little a little self-righteous or a little grumpy so i had to explain to him like daddy why do you have this cat and i was like well this is this is what daddy would look like if he was a cat so i understand

that you really like cat memes i do i do love some cat memes yeah me too So tell me about your favorite cat meme I mean It's hard to say There's so many good ones Like right now I've been really enjoying the ones It's like The black cat sitting there With just this blank stare on his face

With the other cat Kind of looking like it's talking to him Just all the ones going with that Those are hilarious And just seeing with the other cat, like kind of looking like it's talking to him and like, just all the ones going with that. Like those are, those are hilarious. And just seeing all the orange cat memes. Cause like we just got an orange cat, maybe I think six months ago and he's just a absolute terror,

but he's like the sweetest cat too, whenever he wants to be. So it's just like seeing those and then the parallels with him. I'm like, yeah, I mean, he attracts. He is a straight up orange cat just going nuts. He's actually had to close the door to this room because

he was trying to barge in a little bit ago and doing his little meows. He'll show you his Jack and Ginger. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure he's like, Dad? Like, yes, it's me. Anyway, that was fun. I do love cat memes. Especially on

TikTok, there's a guy called Rockstar, and he does voiceovers for dogs and cats. So it'll just be a cat running around, and he'll be dictating what the cat is saying. is genuinely funny oh uh have you ever watched uh on instagram and probably on tiktok too but the his his name is drinnen davis and he does like he has i think four cats and he does voiceovers for him and like you know it's kind of like a little skit each time he posts and it's it hilarious and there's always i was just it's always funny like it all yeah gets me a good

laugh and then there's um the two artists that have made songs using cats i don't know if you've caught any of that those are really i don't think so oh there's one guy he's called the kiffness or something and like if there's a cat the the most famous one is there's a cat that sounds like it's saying, sometimes I'm alone, sometimes I'm not. Hello? And it sounds like the cat is saying that. So this guy took that and he made it a whole song using that cat's voice. It's actually incredible.

But the internet just stays untested like it's so fun yeah people's creativity never disappoint correct what's your favorite brand of smelling salts go that's a tough one i'm gonna have to go with obsidian ammoniamonia. Hell yeah, sponsor of this podcast. So, I got a good one here. I guess it's more of a versus. So, here you have a very strong opinion on this. So, Moe's. So, welcome to Moe's

versus Chipotle. Like Moe's Tavern from Simpsons? It's Chipotle adjacent like Chipotle adjacent. Like speedy Mexican themed subway type of... Isn't Chipotle owned by McDonald's?

No. That I don't know. But I actually had this conversation with someone at work today actually. And Moe's is I had this conversation with someone at work today, actually. Mose is, you know, I know it's not everywhere.

Yeah, it's my go-to. If I just want a good old burrito, just, you know, flavors are there. The quality is there. The chips are free. You know, it's all delicious. Like it's, it's, they know how to make a burrito, put things together.

Great. I swore off Chipotle, especially after this moment, because, you know, my girlfriend doesn't care for notes that much. So I was like, all right,

you know, I want something like this. So we'll go to Chipotle. Like I'll get a quesadilla. Like that's fine. And usually that any other place that does this, something like this. So we'll go to Chipotle. Like I'll get a quesadilla. Like that's fine. Um, and usually that any other place that does this, you double it or,

uh, you know, I haven't been there too often, so I can't speak on them really. But Moe's especially, uh, you know, if you get rice or corn salsa or whatever,

they put it inside the quesadilla. So I got a chicken and cheese quesadilla with, you know, uh, I think it was salsa, some rice, and then something else. I forget what it was. But I opened the box after getting it,

and then it was just chicken and cheese and the quesadilla with everything else on the side. So I had to deconstruct my quesadilla to remake it to what I wanted. I was just like, this is the stupidest shit ever. And it's not even good. Like I was, I was like, I'm done. I'm not, I'm so done with Chipotle.

So is that your only experience with Chipotle though? No, I've, I've had, you know, numerous. The only thing I can say about Chipotle is that the good thing I will say is that burritos are good size. They're nice and big. It's great. But the chicken's always too charred. The flavors aren't as robust, in my opinion. You've got to pay for the chips.

The queso's not even... It's just not for me. I don't like it. I'm not a big fan. It's definitely more expensive. It's more or less like everything's a la carte compared to mo's give or take but like i i'm glad you at least had some other stuff because if you're judging chipotle solely on their quesadilla i'm pretty sure their quesadilla is like only on their fucking kids menu like you have to order

like it's very it's not like a regular item that they or it's not a regularly served item or at least like i think it was new at the time or something like it was this was maybe a year and a half ago or so and i was like no i'm done with this but yeah i do agree most quesadillas are legit because you can add and there's stacks it ends up being a fucking four inch thick case yeah they're they're oh yeah quesadilla almost is a stack where they like fold it over so i always ask you to be a crispy just because when they just make it regular because i have like seven it's too floppy yeah yeah it's like no make that like damn near burn that bitch so it doesn't fall apart you can't have a floppy quesadilla mcdonald's uh does not own chipotle they were a major investor until 2006 and then they divested word yeah i would uh i don't want to get fact checked again

on some like random thing that i was just like i wonder if and then somebody's like no idiot in the discord somebody's always coming for me uh actually angely fucking nerds um so keith you jumped in a little quickly there. I had follow-ups. Oh, man. We're going to count this as the sponsor read. So I was just wondering, tell me about your favorite obsidian ammonia. Tell me about the time that you used it the best or the scent was the best. Go.

See, that's also another tough one. There's so many good sense um right now i've really been enjoying the uh the menthol regret that's a it's it hurts but it's refreshingly painful um that's the so that's the tobacco right the menthol right that's a newer one i should have got on that but like i have a whole container of obsidian ammonia like i wouldn't give it away at this point i've got like six bottles up in my gym bag i just reach in and grab and i'm like all right well pumpkin spice today and then like next one i'll be like all right this is a nose candy today i just don't you i don't use them enough but i like so nose bleach i'm gonna say is my favorite i have always loved the nosebleach but now the dim mac

is dim mac and nosebleach combined the redux and that's god that's just sitting in there and i opened up the container the other day to ask steve like if he needed some and i just hit me and then i was like god i really want to open that dim mac i do want to try the Denmark Redux, but the nose bleach alone, like, you know, I'm scared of nose bleach. Like, I'll open it for, like, special occasions, but I know it's going to hurt. It's going to hurt. It's going to get up inside your nose, behind your eyeball, and make it feel like your eyeball is falling out. Yes. but no i uh right now i think the pumpkin spice has always been like one of the ones that i you know constantly get each year and that's honestly probably my favorite because it still

hits hard and it's pumpkin spice lobotomy they call it right the psl it is available now uh i don't know if anybody won that that gift card with the golden ticket but i did not i tried i actually i can't justify harmonia but i want to i want more ammonia i wanted this tobacco one so bad because we talked about snuff i think last two weeks ago or something i could just miss snuff uh snuff is a pop did we not talk about snuff i chewed tobacco for like five years of my life. You're talking about something. You're talking about like a tobacco. Snuff is a powdered tobacco that you sniff.

Not in America. Snuff is like just like chew or chewing tobacco. I don't know what you guys would call it, but up here and the rest of the the world snuff is a powdered tobacco that you snort and it was the best oh it was the best uh apparently the queen developed it so that she could like years like like hundreds of years ago a queen developed it so she could visit the poor areas and not have to smell them. So she would just... And I used to get cans of it. You'd get apricot and mint and peanut butter jelly. You'd get all these scents and flavors.

And it was my favorite way to get tobacco. But Canada outlawed it. So nobody sells it up here. You can't even get it on the res. And you can get anything on the res. You can't get snuff. I think I to start ordering it from sweden at some point to get it and now you can't even i can't even remember the website so that's fun that's so random that like the same word like like i literally like chewed snuff for fucking from like 17 to like 21 or 22 or something it

was the hardest fucking thing i ever did was giving that up like i still dream about that like i have not had tobacco in my system in fucking almost 20 years and i still literally get a dream of dream about it once or twice a year where i'm like i wake up i'm like oh man did i did i give in last night at the party and like like oh thankfully i didn't so if you google snuff tobacco yeah you get what i'm talking about that's weird interesting yeah that must be on the canadian google and you and you get a lot of stuff you get a lot of stuff saying don't do it oh yeah for sure i mean that's fair but anyway so back to the the obs ammonia thing, because that's like I was thinking of ordering that stuff.

But yeah, I love it. I just do it. I just rip it and rip it. Order it. Use code unpaid. Save 15 percent. Help out the podcast. Help out my ammonia addiction.

When I did when I did snuff images like the first three or four is like the shit up your nose and then maybe like six or seven down it goes to like what i consider snuff well we call we call it we call that chew yeah well yeah i yeah this is weird i didn't never know that i'm like looking at the images of people fucking doing lines off their hands i'm like yeah that's how you do it like that's crazy you would do it like cocaine except it's just tobacco it's literally the same thing you're just snorting tobacco finally finally ground tobacco it had to be so unhealthy like obviously it's fucking outlawed i don't know i don't know if that was ever actually i might do some research later and see if that was ever a

thing in america like if it was ever legal beer or ever consumed no americans like gross stuff like chewing tobacco that they have to spit out in front of everybody. They all did that for you. You hold it in your fucking gross cup. My one buddy used to do it, and I love the guy, but he used to, like, and he's sitting at the bar into this gross cup.

He's like, dude, it looks like gasoline. Yeah, I did that a lot. So the worst is being drunk and rubbing while you're and you're using like an empty beer can or a beer bottle as your spitter and you're so fucking drunk that you go to drink your beer and you drink the goddamn disgusting man oh it's like oh man no it was it was a horrible it was the worst fucking habit of my life i was like i did reiterate again like No, it was horrible. It was the worst fucking habit of my life. To reiterate again, stopping that was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. It took me three or four attempts.

I was finally able to put the can down completely because I ended up having a really bad sinus infection or cold or flu. I was sick and out of work for a week. I physically couldn't do it because I was so congested. I remember going back to work. I think I was working in framing houses or construction at the time. I had a can in my pool belt. I opened it up and I looked at it. I thought about it.

I just fucking chucked it in the woods. I was tempted, but never did it again. I don't remember that until the day I die. I gave up snuff pretty easily. I think pretty recently started thinking about it again uh but even like cigars i can i i think i had one earlier this week and i haven't had one since and i've said it before the cigars are just one of those things that i enjoy but i don't like come home like itching for right if i come home and the weather's nice

and i have an hour i'm gonna go have a cigar. But on a night like tonight where my day was jammed, I'm not missing cigars. I don't have an addiction to tobacco. Anyway. Keith, pick something else to talk about. I just want to talk way too long about fucking powdered tobacco.

I got two here that kind of correlate with each other. Two facts I heard about you from your family and friends is you love to cook and you're an extremely picky eater do those kind of correspond with each other uh i mean uh yeah probably i mean i've always been you know i don't love to cook since i was a little kid. Yeah. My mom would teach me how to do certain things and, you know, grandparents would teach me how to cook all that good stuff. And then I had, I tried to go to culinary school for a little bit and then I was just like,

nah, I don't want to do this. And then I actually went to a real kitchen before I went to go work in Mercedes. I was like, Holy shit, this is a blast. Like I had,

it was one of the most fun jobs I've ever had. I was a pizza cook at one of the restaurants downtown. I was up, you know, out front working, um, being able to talk to people and like, just kind of just,

I don't know. It was just, it was a, one of the most fun things I've ever done. And then I went to go do this and just completely changed everything. Um, I don't do as much cooking anymore, but I'm still very picky eater.

Uh, I'm a lot better than I used to be, but it's, it's definitely, you know, it, it, it sucks in a way.

Cause I'm like, you know, I want to like enjoy things that other people do, but it just doesn't taste good. I'm like, I don't know. Or the texture of something just isn't for me. I'm like, ugh, no. You do oyster snooters.

Are you telling me texture is an issue? Are you going to take a look in the mouth and say texture is an issue? So you have tried everything that you consider that you don't like, or are you just afraid to eat new shit? No, I mean, I'm not afraid to try anything but you know i'll uh i'll definitely like i'm very opinionated i'll be like no this is you know garbage but no trust me like me now if you would ask me like three years ago be like do you like oysters i'm like no because they're gross and i

actually like you know starting to try and like i started with the steam they're like all right you know it's not bad like you know a little cocktail sauce it's fine and like went to the oysters on the half shell like oh you know this is pretty good and then like just kind of you know just open that whole uh little lemon juice little hot sauce maybe some horseradish to make it go down a little. I know what you're talking about. Oh, yeah. And I do a little, you know, put it on the cracker, get a little Tabasco, a little cocktail of sauce, a little extra horseradish. I make a show out of it.

But, you know, so you can get a little extra crunch with that. But, you know, it definitely has been my whole life just being a picky eater. And I'm definitely a lot better. But it's. What's the one thing you won't touch no matter how it's prepared? Oh, that's a good one. My answer is very easy. So but.

Because I'm my wife labels me a picky eater. Although there are people who are pickier. If I come home and my wife's like, I made this for dinner, I'll be like, okay, I'll eat that. But if I have a choice, I don't want that. My stepdad, I guess you would call him, he's a way pickier. He won't eat anything. So I'm not that level. But there is one thing that if she tells me it's

in there, I will go somewhere else to eat. I really can't, like, off the top of my head, I mean, there's a lot of different things, and I kind of had a little, you know, one of my questions for y'all was going to involve this kind of thing,

but a lot of the cheeses I don't like. one of my questions for y'all was going to involve this kind of thing. But a lot of the cheeses I don't like. I won't touch them. I will not touch them. Unless it's like a basic cheese. Like, you know, cheddar. I love a good sharp cheddar. You don't like stinky cheese?

Blue cheese? Disgusting. Gouda? Gross. know uh yeah exactly uh you know people want me to they'd be like oh try this brie cheese i'm like okay it tastes like nothing i'm like this is terrible brie does taste like nothing i'm like thank you it's delicious but it does taste like nothing when it's done properly that's fun yeah like you go to you know like your fancy charcuterie and like try this like aged goat fucking anus whatever and you're just like no but it doesn't it taste bitter that's not good like yeah's mushrooms. Not a fan. Mine's mushrooms.

Won't fucking touch them. Ooh. Okay. Nope. Now, if there's mushrooms in it that I can pick out, the flavor of mushrooms is not a problem for me. I enjoy what mushrooms will add to the sensory of the flavor and the smell. But the moment the mushroom is in my mouth, I will gag and immediately not want to touch the meal yeah i'm not a sorry go ahead there's like a soggy like i like a like a crispy almost like charred and burnt mushroom or like a because

like you can like i can tell when it's like a good freshish mushroom versus like what they opened up a fucking can of in the back so like i'm kind of thinking like if it's a lower in place like yeah you can hold off on the mushrooms because they're just gonna suck but if you go to a nice steakhouse you're probably gonna get decent like you know grilled mushrooms with like you know and like a sautéed onion thing so here's the thing mushrooms eat poop mushrooms eat dead things mushrooms eat tetradus and then they grow into this thing that you're supposed to eat that in my opinion has the same texture as human flesh so i have no desire oh no human tech like if you eat meat right have you ever had pork rinds joey the cannibal like pork rinds are just

i love pork rinds but when they're not done not a big fan they just taste like terrible stuff so yeah no no mushrooms and my wife knows if she cooks with them she warns me i pick them out i don't need them she's i think it's fancy shit time i don't know nope nope just gross just fungus i'm not eating fungus i don't eat bugs i don't eat fungus yeah i'm not a big mushroom guy either yeah there you go but then try this delicious goat anus fungus no i'm not going to guess it's twice down so the name of this episode i started on a sharp koochie board sharp koochie board all right so maybe maybe one or two and we can get into the overrated underrated um i just want to touch on one uh we'll bring up your brother again uh i want to hear a quick story on how he

convinced you to use your grandpa's garden as a bathroom. And if it's just pissing, that's not funny. But if you actually took a shit in it, I really want to hear the story. I knew this was going to come up. That's when I ever... Yeah, okay. So let me go ahead and preface this by saying I was probably four or five years old. I was probably four or five years old at I was, I was probably four or five years old at the time, maybe as old as six.

Um, and so me and my brother were out playing some game. Uh, I forget what it was. And I was like, yeah, I gotta go use the bathroom. And my brother was like,

Oh, we'll just use the garden. I was like, okay. And so I went to go take a shit in his garden. And my brother, he's just like running in and out of the house

like bringing me toilet paper. Like he's being a terrible big brother by encouraging this. And like, finally, the second time he went in there, he was like, all right, what is going on? And like walked out and he walked out in the garden um and then that's about all i remember oh that's hysterical well yeah it's i knew he was gonna mention that story and the funny thing is like stories like that are probably

like you probably remember people telling the story more than you might even remember the event because that's something that you probably you probably that was probably like, you probably remember people telling the story more than you might even remember the event. Because that's something that you probably, you probably, that was probably told like every two or three years at a family reunion. Oh, it comes up all the time. My dad is always the one who will, you know, bring it up. And my brother said, he's like, you're the one encouraging him. He's like, well, yeah, we want to play the game. I'd have to check. I'm pretty sure your girlfriend's the one encouraging him. He's like, well, yeah, we wanted to play the game. I'd have to check the game.

I'm pretty sure your girlfriend's the one that told me that, but she just worded it as go to the bathroom and not take a shit. So I almost didn't bring it up because I'm like, it was so big. Does he mean just like everyone pisses outside? It's like nothing. But I was like, I have to ask. If there's a chance he shit in the garden, I want to hear it. And that's hysterical. I'm glad that we got that story.

Oh, God. I'm cool with just maybe one more moving on to unpaid. I've got nothing else, actually. Then let's go ahead. Try to keep this one under four hours. Yes. Oh, we're coming up on two. It's a PR. If you can

keep us under two hours, Ryan, you fucking win. See you all later. He just dips out now. It says here you love to golf and I want to know why you hate Tanner's truck. It's good stuff. Oh, yeah.

I do love to golf. I loved watching that reaction. were like wait what and then god damn it um i can you know with 100 confidence i've never hit a vehicle but i have hit a few houses and you know was that your fault? I mean, it wasn't intentional. It's just the ball, you know, I pulled it a little bit. Then it just started to turn. And next thing I know, I heard, nope. And then luckily, one of the times it was, you know,

one of the members of the golf course I worked at, she was like, it's you? I was like, oh, no. I worked at she was like it's you i was like oh no i was like yep it's me and she was like just like put her head down just doing this i was like i'm sorry you know i didn't break anything but i definitely hit you know the siding i think and but yeah it comes with the territory of living on a golf course the price you pay if you live on a fucking golf course yeah like you chose to live on that golf course more than likely like i don't i highly doubt that the golf you know that you built your house and then they put a golf course in but you know so yeah it's nothing new like it happens all the time but yeah luckily i've never hit a car or broken a window knock on wood knock on windshields knock on okay uh so

we've already done the technically the ad read yeah just remember to do obsidian ammonia unpaid um there was talks today that we have the potential to start mentioning a new sponsor um so tune in for that maybe next week or the the week after but there is something else coming and it's a product we've talked about on the the podcast before it's one i'm interested in it's one keith uses quite often i don't know if he wants to give you any more information than that but next week something else is in the works yeah something else is in the works guys so let's get into unpaid and underrated now normally i go last because we save the controversial ones for me but i think this time I'd like to go first. Don't take any of my good ones, damn it. Oh, no. Okay.

You know what? Then you go first. Because normally I add a bunch during, but you keep doing that. Well, it's just because I only had like three or four to start. Usually I have like five or six already and then you'll add a couple of them, cherry pick, but I didn't have...

My inbox was light on quality overrated and underrated topics. And the couple that we had, a couple of the good ones I wanted to cover. As soon as you mentioned cheese, I was like, you son of a bitch, that was going to be a underrated topic.

So we always kind of play with that. That was also one of mine. But no, i don't care they're all talk well i mean at least two of them can apply to me so i'll do two and you do the rest all right so unpaid or underrated death core oh underrated hell yeah it uh i mean you know there are some bands that you know sound very similar every song sounds the same but there's a lot of good bands out there that you know they just they just hit right like especially when you're going for a pr something you just

want something heavy just to hit right that's all you know yep it's uh it's definitely underrated i think my wife says that I listen to goblin music. We've talked about Will Ramos on the podcast before. You know who Will is. And that dude, he does things that are just... Mike Patton used to be...

If you know who Mike Patton is, Faith No More, Fantomas, Tomahawk, he did the voices of the zombie things from that Will smith movie i legend i legend i am legend i am legend yeah not i robot i am legend because mike patton can do like mike can do like insane voices will r Ramos. But Mike Patton. Like things.

Will Ramos at like the drop of a hat. Can sound like a demon coming out of hell. And. I've been spoiled by him. Because sometimes I listen to other goblin-y music. And it's like. Not as good. There was one.

God what was their name? It was like Swarm of Silence or something like that. They're fucking amazing. Oh, yeah. I've heard of them. They're on here. I can go through this list. Last I think last week we talked about Jaluka, which is a Japanese band.

And I was going to listen to them. I'm curious about them. So the song is black, but B-L-V-C-K. That would be a good one to watch the video and get an introduction. The lyrics are shit, but they're decent. And they include dubstep into their breakdowns, which is kind of insane. But yeah, I'm with you on that one. One of my favorite bands is Spite

I don't know if you've listened to them nope they are very angry the vocals are just like they're different it's hard to explain but he has some deep guttural stuff but it's a lot of

higher pitched wouldn't that be closer to metalcore no i don't think so i once you listen to it i think you'll okay and say what does nick nocturnal say that like metalcore is the blat and deathcore is the brie br brie. And if you've listened to either of those, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Keep us fucking right confused. I also do love a good bleh. I love... Spite is a motivating factor in my life, but it has

nothing to do with the band. I love a good bleh. The band is killer. They're one that I would kill to see right now. But yeah, Wilbur, almost like his uh cover he did i think with nick nocturnal uh recreant uh recreant oh god right i didn't even know it was a cover and then i heard the original and then i was like sorry was it chelsea green i think yeah chelsea green and i had the cover i was like sorry chelsea green like that's his now

and i had the cover i was like sorry chelsea grin like that's his now i mean it's it incredible i uh one last one i want to put out there before i ask you the next one um have you heard of netherwalker i have not okay so netherwalker from what i understand is a dungeons and dragons based death core band uh-huh so this song i love that it's called thine king weeps for mercy now this song was released back in 2022 and there is a moment where the vocalist does what can be best described as the predator clicks and it's the last 40 seconds of the song so if you have to fast forward it but you won't like the rest of the song is really good but the last 40 seconds of the song is where like the bridge comes in before that heavy breakdown and he does that and then in uh vikings by slaughter to prevail he does that alligator sound yeah that's just a deeper guttural version of what that of what

netherwalker did last year okay so give it give that one a listen it's called thine king weeps for mercy um it's been on my playlist for a little while but it's it's fucking wild like i have to get that show yeah that sounds good okay so you said underrated on that one Keith looks so bored no there's so like get on the I know Ryan's recording on his phone so he can't he doesn't have access to the are you dying from that meme

oh god I just saw it at 9.59 I can't wait to see this big chat GPT big chat GPT posted a screenshot of, you know, a zoom in with your mustache because I posted a screenshot of the three of us. And then it's the Skeletor going, sigh, looking down at his dick and then unzipping his. Yeah, that was good. I saw that.

I was like, fuck, you broke me in the middle of this podcast. Way to go. I can't wait to see this. It's going to be good. And a quick follow-up on that, too, is about an hour ago, when I posted that, one of the hosts said, look at that stash. I hope he keeps it for the Lift Hard Lizzy V Classic 2024. So, you know, you kind of got called out. It'll be there. So, you know, you kind of got called out. It'll be there.

So, Daminger and I, Chris, we already talked about doing mustaches for the next one, so it'll be there. It'll be there on meet day. It'll be there on meet day. That's twice you got that one today, but that's good.

Alright, unpaid or underrated Mr. Clean I mean you gotta You gotta go underrated He was the original The original Jack I can only strive to be That Jacked and bald I mean I am that bald

But that Jack at least So And you know he's clean That jacked and bald. I mean, I am that bald, but that jacked at least. So, and, you know, he's clean. It's in his name, so I don't have to go underrated. Now, maybe, is there a Mandela effect happening here? Because I think we've experienced that on this podcast before. Did he used to have two earrings? I don't recall. I'm not sure about the earrings did he used to look younger though

that was that's my thing because he's like i feel like he's aged now like he's got like a like a does he have like a you know a gray beard and shit or am i just imagining yeah no no that one i haven't heard of no no i physically i could have swore like if i like see them on the paper towels you know he's a cartoon, right? Yeah. That's why it's like, did they literally age the cartoon? That'd be a good play. To age the cartoon, go with the years. I might be mistaken.

No, I've never seen him with a beard. I'm not a beard, but I think he had a mustache. Maybe it's the mustache. Maybe. I don't know. No. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he used to have the two

earrings back when earrings were masculine. You might be right. I feel like that is at one point he had two, but I'm not 100% sure. Alright. Okay, I'm going to do one more, and I bet Keith is mad that I i'm gonna take this one

what you gotta do buddy unpaid or underrated danny mcbride oh underrated um and what about like adam played the guy that you were with most of the time right yeah he played uh kelvin um he was a cool dude i mean between takes like we were mostly hanging around you know adam and uh the guy who plays keith tony um you know they're you know between takes they'd talk with us mostly like sometimes adam would have to go off and you know do something else but um super nice people uh danny mBride, like I didn't really get to talk to him a whole lot. Um, but you know, between takes, like, you know, they have people like, I said my beer at the time, so they'd be like brushing it down,

like putting sunscreen on me. Like I didn't do it. It was cool. I was like, man, this is luxurious. And then he'd be like kind of walking around. Like he was like literally just like kind of hovering around me, like looking at everything. I was like, this is just, this is crazy. Um, and then,

you know, the shows he puts out though, I mean, East down and down is a classic, uh, vice principles. It is. I like that.

I think that that's a great one. Um, not a lot of people know about it, but, uh, if you, it's only two seasons to like as well. So it's not a super long show. You can go know about it, but, uh, if you, it's only two seasons to like as well. So it's not a super long show.

You can go right through it, but that's, I mean, it's hilarious. It's also filmed in Charleston and then righteous gemstones is, you know, it is what it is. It's great.

Um, he's, he's just completely underrated. His, his comedic geniuses, you know, right up there. I like all three of those shows, but I think I like Vice Principals honestly a hair better than the other two.

That one I haven't heard of. I think it's more realistic. It's just a hair more... They're all unrealistic as shit. I think Vice Principals is a hair more realistic maybe, but that's just because i have friends that are teachers and fucking just hate their job and hate the kids and all that and that's kind of a theme of the show a little bit so fun fact when i was uh working at that uh monza that pizza place before i went to mercedes

where it was like some sunday and uh sure, like after a food and wine festival or something, you know, some people walk in in a group and go to like a private room like at the front and no idea who it was at the time. And then one of the servers comes up. She's like, hey, can I get something for so-and-so? I didn't hear the name. I was like, well, yeah, here you go. And then someone mentioned the name Danny McBride.

I was like, holy shit. He's here. He's like, yeah, he's in the back room over there. And sure enough, like I made a pizza for him and all that. And like he ate it. And I saw him walk across to go to the bathroom. I was hoping that he'd stop and say that was a great pizza. But he just, you know, kept walking.

But yeah, it was really cool to see him in person there. And yeah, it's and he also lives here. So now did now when he went to the when you said he went to the bathroom did he go take a shit in the garden out back do you have to go to the toilet no there was no garden out back so it's not an option you guys didn't grow your fresh fresh vegetables in the back that you got shit in okay good stuff yeah you gotta you gotta keep them fertilized i think i cut you off there, Joey. What were you saying earlier? Nope.

I was going to just ask if you got to work with John Goodman at all. No, he was, uh, on the first filming day he was there. Um, but they were doing a scene off to the side. So I, I got to see him and like,

didn't ever get to talk to him, but it was, it was cool to see him in person. I wish I could have talked to him. Ron Goodman's under underrated as shit. Like, yeah, I'm watching him since like Roseanne, like the fucking like late 80s, early 90s. I feel like I've just I've been aware of him for like the majority of my life. All right.

Well, it is my turn to bring us home here on these last three. The first one, I don't know what this means, but I know you were at a wedding, so I don't know if it is going to, if it's a South thing or something that you wore at the wedding. What the hell is a seersucker suit and do you find it underrated? Did I even say that word right?

What the hell is a seersucker suit? Yeah. Like, without, it's hard to describe exactly if you google it real quick it's a southern staple it's the epitome of the south but I wore

one to prom I think twice and it was very ill fitting it needed to be tailored it was not but I looked like a goon in it. The suits themselves... It's almost a Pee Wee Herman suit. Damn near.

It's the ones I'm looking at. It's a little lighter in material, so it's really good for a hot summer day. Okay. I'm going to have to go with underrated on that one as well. You know, they're classy.

It's a good rating. All right. Let's move into number two here. Jeeps. I know you like Jeeps. So, well, Jeeps.

As a Jeep owner, I'm going to have to go unpaid. I love my Jeep. It's, it's, it's, I was misled. No, don't get me unpaid. I love my Jeep. I was misled. No, don't get me wrong.

I love my Jeep. I have. So I've got a 92 Wrangler. It's actually older than I am. But obviously, this is just my personal experience with these. But yeah, I've got so much work I'm still doing on it. It's definitely a project but also a lot of other jeep owners they they think they have like the greatest car ever made i'm just like this is not there are so many cars that are more capable off-road than a jeep and like you it's you're just over it's unpaid completely they just they just want to be

part of it they just want to be part of a club. The Jeep is a very cult-y clique, I feel. It is. I was never into the CJs or the XJs. I remember... What was it? I had an 89 Cherokee, but is that cult? The XJ and the CJ?

Yeah, the CJs and the Wrangler. I miss the Cherokee style so much like they discontinued those in like oh one i think oh two and i think they brought them back there's goofy and fucking all rounded off and they're just not the jeep like they're not the jeeps i grew up with like i there was like a like like a 20 year span from like the early 80s to the early 2000s where like a jeep a jeep cherokee looked almost exactly the same and they only changed like how round the uh the turn signals were basically uh right but goddamn i i missed that that was my favorite vehicle of all time but i never got i was never a fan of like i don't know

the the the soft top and like you know how loud that would be as like just a functional like as a as a second vehicle that's a toy sure as a daily driver that just seems fucking over that just seems unpaid as a motherfucker that's what it is like mine is a toy which let me say though like the newer jeeps are definitely like unpaid like

they're not really built that well like they look good sure but the older stuff like the YJs the XJs thejs uh even some tj like those are where the great engines are like everything is well the the inline six has been around since like the fucking 30s or whatever like that's what's in that motor you'll never blow the motor you'll fucking blow a transmission and everything else but that motor can't last a lifetime that thing is a tank i mean it mean, that's what I have, and it's a great engine.

I love it. But everything else, I'm just like, oh, God, it's just constant project work. But, I mean, I enjoy doing it here and there, but this is expensive. Yeah, it's got to be a more expensive hobby than powerlifting, that's for sure. Yeah. All right, so we'll round this out with my last one. This one might be the most elaborate one that comes with a good story. So I want to hear if this is unpaid or underrated.

We're talking about Hole 17 at TPC Sawgrass. I think like four people told me about this Oh god why A well known Ryan story I should have said this was off top But I didn't even think this would come up So shitting in a garden was good But this is off top

Anyone that knows Like golf at all knows Like the TPC sawgrass like the hole 17 the island green you know it's like one of the coolest holes in golf um and especially like you know it can test your metal it's and that day playing like i was teeing off incredibly like i was hitting gray drivers and everything my irons were terrible and so we get to 17 i didn't have any sort of confidence going into that i was like this is

not going to go well um and i already had that mindset in my head which is you know the the mistake but get up tee it up and uh it was like 135 yards get my my club. And then I just chunk it like maybe 10 feet away from me into the water. I was like, Oh God. And then sure enough, my brother, you know, instigating, he's like, Oh, I hit another one. They're tossing me another ball. I was like, I don't want to. And so I was like, all right, put it down. Almost the same thing, just a little bit more right this time. And I was like, all right, I'll just go to the drop zone. He's like, no like no hit another one

like throw me another ball I was like no just let me go to the drop zone just hit it and I was like okay hit it again guess what happened water so like alright I'm going to the drop zone take it there and then hit a little chip shot

onto the green actually make it this time and make like a 10 on a par three. So that, you know, all that being said, whole 17 is underrated. Nice. So that's, that's kind of your 10 cup moment then,

except without the happy ending where he actually did land it, even though there was no happy ending on that course. I mean, getting to play the course was incredible. But apart from that, the actual game of golf that I played was dog shit.

Well, you passed. And that rounds out our 25th version of Unpaid and Underrated. Excellent. Man, that was stressful. Is Happy Gilmore the best Adam Sandler movie? I know, hard-hitting questions here on Unpaid and Underrated.

It's one of my favorites. I don't know if it's the best. Depends on who you ask. Well, if you ask Keith, the best one is that one where he played the sister and the brother. Jack and Jill? Jack and Jill or whatever. Because they just have, like,

nobody has any faith in your movie ratings anymore. That's bullshit, because I've watched more movies than anybody else in the entire crew. No, you've recorded that you've watched more movies than everybody else. I watch a fucking ton of movies, but I don't have a spreadsheet.

I think what's interesting is when you do a rating, do you do it immediately after watching or do you at least wait a day typically uh no it's pretty much oh well so in my defense like i've i don't think i started imbd into until 2011 so but i'm my ocd i'm a completionist i can't do anything like and not so i literally spent like weeks i think like just in like a couple hours here and there like a week just free time like looking up like

basically i would like look up a list of like every movie that came out that year and kind of like be like yep i saw that movie let me go ibd and rate it and then like just just continuously doing that to where i like was able to essentially i would say i've rated like 97 percent of every movie or show i've ever seen just because the handful that i didn't i just have never come across on the app uh so uh so let's say a half of those were rated like potential years after ever seeing them and it's just all off of memory but then everything from 2011 up to today yeah it would have been rated within like an hour a day of watching it like

typically pretty much now i definitely just get out get out my phone as soon as i watch the movie and rate it it's just like a it's a tick that i have to do no and that's fine like i'm not i'm not bringing i'm not gonna bring that into judgment i just want to point out that um humans actually don't unless you have an eidetic memory you don't actually remember the things that happened. You only remember the way you felt about them. Yeah, and my rating, I guess, would be based off. And that's just how our brains work. You don't remember the movie most of the time, especially the ones that you rated after seeing them.

You just remember how you felt about them at the time. that if you're the ones that you rated after watching like years later or even days later or months later i wonder if they have a more um genuine or accurate rating whereas the ones that you rated immediately you were still kind of riled up by what you saw and i wonder if like if you're a negative person are you watching a movie and pointing out the flaws or are you watching a movie and pointing out the positives yeah and i look at this like my ratings are how much i enjoyed the movie not like i don't look at it as an unpaid and underrated of like what's the general opinion of that's not that's not what we want at a rate yeah absolutely and it's all very much like very like almost nothing i think for the longest time i like i

had a rule that nothing was a 10 and then i recently added like three or four things to my top like two and like a 10 out of 10 and even those i don't really feel they're 10 out of 10 i just they're above what i have at nine and i just had to like separate them a little bit but that's because that's how you felt about them. That's that's interesting. It's like you've been getting a lot of flack for your ratings and like I I dude. Oh, frustratingly

amount of it. I will tell you I disagree with most of your ratings, but I understand them. Yeah, I actually now I want to know Nate when you're listening to this, send me, what did he rate There Will Be Blood? I didn't tell you

right now. I would guess I gave it a 6 or a 7. And that would be the worst rating on the planet. That movie was minimum 9 or 10. That movie was amazing. And you know why I like that movie? Because there wasn't a lot of dialogue. I didn't like it because I gave it a six.

Yeah. Ridiculous. A lot of times I'll judge a movie by the ending. I'm sure there was something in the ending where a main character died. If a main character dies, you're losing two points just because I hate a movie where I don't. He bludgeons the preacher to death with a... Oh, he's frozen now. We got him so mad.

We got him so mad that his radioactive Hulk stuff just froze his internet. You were frozen for a second there. I got my Wi-Fi adapter this week. I should be good. You were frozen for a second there, yeah. No, he bludgeons the preacher to death with the bowling pin at the end of the movie. And maybe that bothered you, but that dude deserved to die.

Like that was, that was a, nobody was the good guy in that movie. I will point that out. But yeah, that's just one of those things I was wondering that you, you're getting a lot of flack for your ratings and your, your, your ratings. I disagree with most of them. But people need to remember that I have film critical training. I attended university classes, and we learned about things like how music and Maison Sainte and things like that that contribute to how the movie is made and directed and written. So I would probably

rate a movie differently than you would and you're just like I'm just watching this because I didn't like it or I did like it that's what I'm reading it so that's interesting because I watched some movie the other day that apparently everybody loves and I fucking hated it I was just like I'm going to talk to Keith alright

oh god I can't remember it I think I paid money oh the new insidious because i'm a horror movie guy right i watched insidious the red door like yeah i think it can have really bad ratings anyway well it should it should definitely have bad ratings if you're gonna make a movie and it's a sequel you should have watched the movies before it and if you're writing the movie you should at least try and write a movie that is in sequence to the other movies if it is a sequel instead you write a movie that references the old movies but doesn't line up so somebody who loved the first two Insidious movies, this didn't line up.

Nothing made sense. It's like the characters were the same name and the one demon looked the same. And that was like the only thing that actually... This movie wasn't scary. The other Insidious was scary as shit. This wasn't scary at all. So I was just like, bad rating. Can't believe I spent $6

on this shit. That general concept is a big pet peeve of mine. this wasn't scary at all. So I was just like, bad rating. Can't believe I spent $6 on this shit. That, that, that, that, that general concept is a big pet peeve of mine. Um, more in TV shows,

I guess the movies, like, yeah, I guess if it's a series of movies and they're, they're sure when shit doesn't just correspond the way it should, but like it's bigger in TV shows because TV shows have different fucking writers and show directors and show runnersners like every other season it seems like so they don't care about keeping like

continuity of like well this person made this decision two years ago but now they're completely doing something different it doesn't line up and it's like they just I don't know like that I noticed so much like random shit and like even like sitcoms and stuff I was like god damn it that does not like that wouldn't happen

what the fuck that doesn't correlate with how that person acted two years ago. So they just like change shit just for the show itself. And that's why X-Files is the best show of all time. Because they keep more, they didn't change. You're saying if X-Files, a season, if the season was eight episodes long,

two of those were storyline episodes. The rest were Monster of the Week. They would cycle those. The one officer. And you could air the Monster of the Week one at any time. As long as the same characters were playing, Dana and Scully, it didn't matter who else showed up.

But then when the smoking man was involved or anything like that, those had continuity throughout the entire whatever, 11 seasons until Mulder left. And then the show didn't make any sense but anyway hey right they just sabotaged two hours so we were like under two hours what questions you have for us buddy i'm sorry i'm so sorry you were so quiet that whole time just listening to us being like listen to these fucking nerds talking about movie and tv you might have to go and read

reintroduce yourself there buddy i think everyone forgot who you were oh yes uh i am chris damager hello all right so i've got a couple unpaid and underrated for you guys. We already went through a couple of these things earlier, so I'm going to skip a few, but I do have the two that I, you know, I got one for you, Joey, and one for you,

Keith. So I'll go ahead and go Joey first. All right. Unpaid or underrated. The Assassin's Creed franchise. Okay. I love Assassin's Creed franchise. Okay. I love Assassin's Creed. Okay?

I have played every game to over 100%. I have... Just over there, I'm looking right now at one of the limited edition sweaters that was released for Odyssey. It's just a hoodie. It's got a flat hood.

You bring it up, it looks like this. I have loved the Assassin's Creed since the beginning. I still think it's a little overrated. Because Odyssey was gorgeous. One, uh, the original and origins,

the one set in Africa and Egypt. Oh my, like they, they, they put out a version of that game where you could just walk around. There was no storyline. You just got to explore Egypt. How fucking cool was that?

But then Valhalla came out, and I'm a Vikings guy. I liked the show Vikings, Warrior Norse Fitness. And it was just so big of a game. You got all of Europe. Not all of Europe, all of the UK. Some of Scotland. Some of Ireland. You travel to Canada at some fucking point.

Like, it's nothing. That's my favorite part. She gets on a boat, and then she's in Canada. And I'm like, no, that took weeks. Where is that? And then back to Norway. And, like, it got to the point where she wasn't even an assassin at that rate. And now with Mirage, I just beat Mirage.

I just did 100% of the storyline in Mirage, and I'm going to go back and do some more of the side quests and stuff, because now with Mirage, you're back to the assassins with the missing finger, and wearing the hood, and you climb the tower, and you follow the person, and you kill the person,

and then you climb the tower, and you're back to that version of the game. There's minimal of the bullshit with the animus because the animus introduced the game it probably should have ended there and like where you had that thing where you go like what you go in and out of the animus and you could be what was that guy's name he was a bitch i hated him um damien maybe i think his name was whatever i hated that dude and but like but it never got there then the movie came out and the movie was only based in modern times like you didn't really do any so like it is an overrated franchise i think with the idea that

just the people that make it need to calm the fuck down and remember the game you made remember the cool pathfinding with the parkour that you invented remember the cool animations of the assassins that you invented remember the idea that there are the hidden ones and there is the templars and then there is the ancient ones and then somehow like in the now time we can go back remember that and stop trying to make the biggest most gorgeous game on the planet that glitches is too expensive

how dare you charge me for DLCs when I bought the seasons past like just calm down with that shit and just make a game I want to play and that's what they did with Mirage so ultimately overrated but it is still one of my favorite things and just make a game I want to play. And that's what they did with Mirage. So, ultimately, overrated, but it is still one of my favorite things.

That's fair. Yeah, I loved them all up until, like, you know, Black Flag was my favorite. I hated Black Flag. And then, really. I didn't like the boat stuff. Yeah, that's when they introduced that in 3, I think it was.

I was like, all right, this is cool. And then they expanded on it. I was like, I love this. I think it just added a whole new element. 3 is my favorite. 3 with Connor in America, right? In Frontier America. Yep.

That is when they added, like, where he would walk differently in the snow versus out of the snow right and the seasons would change based on when you were playing and connor was just so angry that's what i loved about that game is connor was just so mad and then his dad was the guy from black flag right yeah uh ed kedrick kid can edge something can uh can can way can way yep um but yeah no like and then once they started changing the combat style that's when i kind of really just fell out of it i was like i don't like the way you know it's like more rpg now it's like it's not it i don't know the old combat style was so much better in which that's what you know mirage coming out there or now that it's out i was

like it intrigues me more like i didn't enjoy played a little bit about how i didn't enjoy it i did enjoy odyssey enough to finish it but ever since uh black flag that's kind of the only two that i really like you know got tried to play and just mirage mirage will bring you back mirage will remind you again this is why i liked this game you blend in with the crowd you kill somebody and you throw a smoke bomb and then you run away like it will remind you i think somebody went in there into their like meeting room and it was just like we have fucked up we got too big bring it in and that's where raj i think finally stepped up even after finishing it i have there's some glitches there's some like but it's just all games it's all assassin's creed where

like you go to talk to the blacksmith and you can't talk to the blacksmith because for some reason they just you're not in the right exact like that kind of shit right but from a storyline perspective mirage brought me back all right cool that's gonna be here i was almost going to go and be an assassin this year and go and buy the entire costume. Because I was like, no, this refreshed my love of this game. Nice. Excellent. Well, now I got one for you, Big Keith. What's happening, buddy?

Unpaid or underrated, Dewalt Tools. Dewalt Tools. So I have a ton DeWalt tools. DeWalt tools. Ooh. So I have a, I have a ton of DeWalt tools. I've been a DeWalt guy for shit. The last 15 years, probably.

Uh, but Milwaukee makes fucking slightly better stuff potentially. But, uh, DeWalt. That's tough, man. That's a close one. That's like, that's, that not allowed around the line so i really gotta think so let me factor in the general public's opinion

i'm saying well what is the general public does everyone is everyone is like is milwaukee edging like does milwaukee edged out the wall the last couple years in general like is that the consensus or is the wall still king like i think i think milwaukee has edged out DeWalt the last couple of years in general? Is that the consensus or is DeWalt still king? I think Milwaukee has edged them out just because they have the pack out now. People just want to have an entire, they want their entire truck to be fucking one brand. So to have pack out, you're going to buy all the Milwaukee shit, the power tools also. I'm a Milwaukee guy myself, but DeWalt,, you know, they're a pretty big name so, like, you know it's tough

to say as I will probably only own DeWalt tools the rest of my life because I'm so invested, like, I think 10 years ago, I bought when they finally got rid of NICAD, the 18-volt NICAD and went with the 20-volt lithium

shit, I got on that train and i've just expanded the arsenal ever since but like some of the stuff milwaukee does is better but like i well we have a milwaukee i have a milwaukee fan at work and a dewalt fan the dual fans like significantly better because the more the fucking it's just there's little there's little like i've used enough of both brands it's like some some tools suck in this brand and some tools suck in that brand but overall is dewalt unpaid i think it's got to be unpaid just because it's so highly rated and it's not that much better than the other top tier brands or it's even they where it's not actually better than them at all. It's like maybe in second or third place.

So yeah, as much as it pains me, because I'll only probably have thousands of dollars invested in DeWalt, they might be a little unpaid. Yeah. I mean, you know, yeah. That hurt too. Yeah, that answer was much shorter than mine. He didn't go through the entire history of DeWalt.

I could just keep going back and forth, because when you factor in the whole general public's opinion, I guess... Well, what you failed to mention, that it's actually pronounced Millewake. Okay. failed to mention that it's actually pronounced miliwake okay that's a wayne's world that's a wayne's world reference that i'm sure big jen caught immediately dude i just so i'm like i don't love wayne's world i think it's okay but one thing i never realized until like something i can't remember something in discord where someone's mentioned it i didn't realize i don't know it was a different podcast uh it was actually in Discord where someone mentioned it. I didn't realize I don't know, it was a different podcast. It was actually on Let's Get Stupid. I think they mentioned it

I believe, but I didn't know the fucking Garth was Dana Carvey or the blonde one was fucking Dana Carvey. I just assumed because I know Dana Carvey from SNL and Chopping Broccoli Chopping Broccoli

That was a really popular Song like a parody song when I was a kid Or like a young adult or whatever So like I didn't like Dana Carvey Like the actual actor him like I didn't Realize that that was the fucking You know the character in that We talked about it in Discord

Yeah so that's what pointed out And I was like wait that's Dana Carvey there's no fucking way And then I'm like I didn't I didn't go look it up but i just like closed my eyes and kind of was like fuck that is dana carvey god damn it like how did i not because like i like it's just i i hate that that's the master of disguise himself yeah that that that one really threw me off because i think there was the master because there was like yeah god i'm so full of i'm so full of such useless fucking references and it's like good was it uh i think it was i think it was was it old ham maybe the post of

the meme this week of getting michael myers and mike myers confused yeah so there was a lot yeah so i actually think i had three different instances where, or either Mike Myers, Wayne world, or Dana Carvey came up and it just kind of all culminated in me realizing that I didn't know Dana Carvey was that character. I was like, fuck, how did I know that?

That's really funny. And now I'll probably like, see it like three other times in the next couple of months somehow. And just be like, Oh, how did I not know that? And that's all I could see now. All right. Well, I got a one FMK for you guys. somehow and just be like, oh, how did I not know that? And that's all I can see now. Alright.

Well, I got one FMK for you guys. Ooh. So, we're all, you know, gamers here. Alright, so FMK, Xbox, PlayStation,

and PC. So, I will kill PC because I don't think i haven't played a video game on pc since like wolfenstein 3d and like 1994 same um i know there's people out there that do like mad pc stuff because you can like build a pc to be quicker and faster and better if you put enough thousands of dollars into it then you can a ps5 and xbox but that's just that's not my scene oh fuck xbox i guess i've only played it if i've only ever played an xbox a handful of times i don't like the controller my fucking hands are too small for it so but it's still better than pc in my book and then yeah ps5 i've been i've been a Sony. I've owned every iteration of the Sony video game console. PS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And I will honestly, I'll be like 60 years old playing fucking PS 11.

So kind of isn't that bad for me. So I'm going to marry PS 5. I didn't say that. Exact same answer. I don't do any PC gaming. I do more mobile gaming than anything and mobile gaming is a weird thing in our society where people are like i'm not spending games on no cell phone video game now you'll go drop 90 on a console or pc game but you know your emoji blitz game from disney asks you for ten dollars and you're like oh you remember when do you remember when mario run came out and like you only had like the first level and you had to spend fifteen dollars to buy the whole game and people lost their shit

but it's just because we have this weird cultural thing where we don't spend money on our cell phones they're the most important thing in your life and i would ask you right now if i give you a hundred dollars right now would you give me your your phone for three days no you fucking wouldn't but people are just they don't want to spend money on their cell phone because they just think this thing is shit is free um so that's an interesting point because i would actually throw mobile in there and if you had thrown mobile over pc my answer would be different um but i i was xbox for years i had an xbox i had an xbox i think the second generation and i had an xbox one but it wasn't until god of war i had to switch because i played all of the god of wars on my roommate's playstation and i loved god of

war and then i didn't have a roommate i had a family and i was like well fuck can i get can i get assassin's creed and god of war on playstation 4 yes i can then i guess i'm getting a playstation and then i got a ps5 the next round because i guess i'm just going to be ps forever spider-man x-bar yeah assassin's creed um and god of war they're all just better on playstation so it's going to be the exact same answer as keith nice Great minds think alike. Fair enough. Which also, the new Spider-Man 2 game is coming out tomorrow,

so we'll be playing that. I'm going to wait. I just spent $60 on Assassin's Creed. It is the month of October. For Black Friday, Spider-Man will probably go 50% off. Probably not wrong. I'm going to get bored as fuck and download it anyway. for Black Friday, Spider-Man will probably go 50% off. Or, I'm going to get bored as fuck and download it anyway and pay

full price plus season's pass because I'm a monster who just really likes the Spider-Man game. Can we edit your Christmas wish list? Is that time of the year where I can start looking around for what's a couple $50, $60 presents I can buy or I can add to my wish list to get as gifts.

No, that's fair. Is that it? Is that what you got for us? That's all I got. Love it. Great stuff. That is great. Had me go off for a few minutes there on Assassin's Creed. Somebody's gonna disagree with me. I like Valhalla better, but that's just

because I never loved the Assassin aspect. I found it to be too slow, and I wasn't good enough at playing video games to be efficient at it. So me not being a good video game player, give me the open world. I think I've only even actually completed story mode at 30% on Valhalla, and I didn't even know there was a new one. And I probably won't get back to the one that I have collecting dust in my entertainment center as is but Valhalla was so fucking

boring man like yeah it was it's needed to be then play Origins because at least then you're getting like the introduction to the assassins whereas with Valhalla she's just like...

I played as she. She's not even an assassin. That was when you could pick which route you went, right? Yes, Odyssey and Valhalla, you could pick. Alright, makes sense. Yeah, it just wasn't my game. Yeah, it just...

I played it, and I played the crap out of it. And then essentially like it was just like every season had a dlc and then they released this other dlc and then they released this one and this one and this one and it just got to the point where i was like i don't want to do this anymore and i can't keep grinding to try and make her powerful enough to like play the game because i want to just go raiding all the time. So I just, it was a Viking video game.

It wasn't an Assassin's Creed video game for me. Maybe the marketing is what bothered me. I don't know, but yeah, so bored of that game. No, it was like really came across like, especially that one.

It just didn't like, it didn't have the Assassin's Creed feel it was just a Viking video game yeah it did not further the Hidden Ones Templar War in any way which if that's what they marketed that's fine like that would have been a cool game but it's not

Assassin's Creed but alright wanna wrap this up let's wrap this up two and a half hours guys we did it we did two and a half hours we didn't go to three this up. Let's wrap this up. Two and a half hours, guys. We did it. We did two and a half hours. We didn't go to three this time. If we can sign off in 90 seconds, we should be good. I'll be so tired tomorrow morning.

Yeah, me too. It's the first day I don't have to be up at six, and I'll be up at 630. You can find me at Joey underscore Malesko. I'm at Lee CZKO. You can find us on Obs um, obsidian ammonia. Use the code unpaid. I just got a referral order while we were talking. I just got an update.

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