Unpaid And Underrated - 025 : Raw Fish and Guac

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know Big Greyson. They dive right into great topics like watching how to videos, ketchup, anime, how to use ammonia, and bannana bread (https://youtu.be/wY55CdGx4H0?si=rdoYSAivHMblaB25). Our new segment was also brought to you by Barbell Rescue (https://barbellrescue.com). Use code NWC for a sweet deal at checkout! Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @fillups22 (https://www.instagram.com/fillups22/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Greyson.

Hello everybody, and welcome to episode 52 of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. The podcast about crew, for crew, by crew, featuring crew, served up by crew, rated by crew, and constantly mocked by crew. I am one of the hosts, Big Joey. I am joined by Big Keith. Howdy. And Big Grayson. Hello, hello.

I like your setup. He's got like a microphone. I've got the trucker rig. I would have said pilot. Yeah, gamer. I mean, it's just- Gamer headphones. Basically. Gamer headphones. all right well um what are you drinking guys got anything cool going

i've got i don't know what i got hannah picked this up last night it's a uh poppy prebiotic root beer prebiotic prebi's like all the rage right now. I keep seeing it and I don't know what it means. So, poppy, not to be confused with poppy. Or probiotic. Like, prebiotic, probiotic. I don't know what any of that shit means.

Amateur biotic. And then you got the greens and all that shit too. Like, I don't know what any of that is. Give me some bubbly. So, I got a Wegmans dragon fruit berry it's pretty tasty uh i'm running out of like shit to buy like that's a struggle dude i'm like i'm dying like every time i'm at the grocery store like i need to actually start going to different grocery stores maybe to find different brands because like i feel like if i just do the same thing it's like i don't know i try to add to the segment but

it's getting very difficult just to keep finding new stuff. Well, I have something new. I haven't been able to find it before, and Steve found it and sent a picture, so I went searching for it. It is PC, because we just have the best stuff. And it is

cranberry ginger ale. Ooh, that could be good. Sparkling water. So it is actually really good. It's got the sweetness of the cranberry, a little hint of ginger ale. Ooh, that could be good. Sparkling water. So it is actually really good. It's got the sweetness of the cranberry, a little hint of ginger ale. I've been drinking it since I got on the computer. I would say that like sparkling, those are two essence flavors that sparkling water in general does all right. Like a ginger ale, I'd say like is lime-ish, you know, and then like any kind of, is it though? No, no, there's no limes. There's no limes in ginger ale. There's a lot of ginger. say like is lime-ish you know and then like any kind of like yeah is it though i guess no no

there's no limes there's no limes in ginger ale there's a lot of ginger whatever okay we'll look at this way ginger ale and sprite kind of taste similar nope and they they like i said kind of isn't like they're the anti-cola whatever yeah they and they all have a little hint of cherry coke yeah absolutely everything tastes like cherry cola so yeah there was my segment of being inaccurate for the day oh somebody's gonna rag on you for that one yeah your intro you'd hit it on the head like it's just it's rag on us day like i feel like i feel a little bit of the pain the sisters must feel of just getting your balls busted you say the one wrong thing and some asshole latches onto it it's just like oh, oh man, I really feel it now.

It's just always really funny to me. It is. I just... Sometimes it catches you at the worst moment and you're like, oh, if I wasn't in such a shitty mood, that'd be really funny, but you caught me in a really bad time, so go fuck yourself. There's a cat. There's a cat. Oh, Grace is a kitty. It's one of the three. I'm sure all three make an

appearance at once. Three is a lot. We had two and then we took on a third. We didn't want to see him get re-owned elsewhere. Surprise cat. Yep, actually surprise cat. Alright, I am boring.

I'm wearing a Norse Fitness shirt. I am big, big, beefy, massonomics blue, baby blue, light blue, whatever the not black version is. Heather blue. Blue balls. I've got the, I think, the OG. That is an OG shirt. Wow. That was from the Rapid City meet meet the first meet i did i think it was

the uh other hosts first meet as well if i recall nice that's one of the one of the og videos anyway i guarantee he'd say that was still the same blank even though we all know it's not uh that's become so is that a was that a trunk shirt was that i bought out of a trunk t-shirt that wasn't like a website t-shirt no no that was uh like 12 hours of lifting this this was like eight o'clock sold in the ymca gym the rapid city ymca gym so definitely a trunk shirt so you have you you might have multiple trunk shirts that we'll dive into later. That's pretty cool. Well, anybody, let's see here.

A lot of us have been booking the rooms for the 2024 Lift Hard, Live Easy. And no one's got a spot. No, I guess Jack and Ginger is the only one that might technically have a spot because he won a free entry. And he said that Dave was going to let him put it towards that. So there's only 89 spots available. Lift hard, live easy, 2024. I think three or four of us have already booked our hotels though, just to kind of get it on the calendar. So I pulled the trigger on mine today just so I didn't have to worry about

it. Booked, booked my room for Sioux Falls a couple of weeks ago and just pulled the trigger on the Fairfield and Aberdeen today. I was looking at flights actually while I was waiting for you guys. To fly from Toronto to Aberdeen is cheaper than to Crew Falls. Oh wow. Really? Now flying from my hometown, because I have an airport down the street from me, is way more expensive. But flying from Toronto to aberdeen was like

200 less than crew falls which is fun and anything under a grand is pretty much like a deal at this point i think that's what we paid last year was a grant a piece yeah it's about 800 if i go like basic economy but i i still gotta like figure out if steve's coming if i'm booking my own hotel like there's there's too many variables um we did buy our arnold tickets and we were looking at hotels i've just been putting that off just as a sheer laziness that's gonna be steep uh now how far do you like to walk here because i was super lazy and like for me it was like if i'm gonna go to the arnold i know i'm gonna want to go back to the room a couple of times rather than just be there for 12 hours. So having the having the one attached that was like a 10 minute walk all inside because it ended up raining all last fucking year.

I will technically this year. But so if I if if I go again in the future, I don't think I'm going to go 24. But if I go like in the future, like years down the road, I think like the the hotel attached is just probably it for me even though it's like 500 bucks a night but it might be it's just i don't know we were looking at one just not not attached but like right there and it was about 300 a night so we're only staying the one night like we're not doing what we did last year where we go for three whole days and try and get there every day and all that like we're not doing that we're gonna drive in on saturday do like six hours at the arnold hang out with everybody afterwards at brothers and go home the next morning like we're not yeah it can't be another two thousand dollar

trip like that's out of pocket well the benefit is if you're cool with rumen with steve too it's like all right well 300 divided by two versus you can go with your wife. You don't get to divide that by two. They get a four or five begin there, but if they're all under your same house, you're still the one paying for the whole damn room. So having the ability to share a room with someone

isn't the worst thing if you're down with that. But we don't all have the luxury that Grayson does to be three hours from the Mecca out there. Yeah, I'm spoiled. Sometimes make a day trip just to hop, skip, and a jump. Three hours in the morning, hang out for a little while.

Three hours at night, we do that quite often. I got a bunch of nieces and nephews up there, so birthday parties and stuff. You ever go to the gym? Oh, yeah. you ever go to the gym oh yeah yeah especially if we go back for like a holiday i'll shoot uh one of our hosts uh attacks and usually get a free pass in there which is really nice appreciated so catch up with some of the guys he's just giving out those free passes let us all in there the day after the meet. We're like dozens of us in there throwing stones around insurance nightmare. Yeah,

I did. I did book the fair. I did book my hotel through Monday. Like I'm going to play that by ear. Like I don't want to miss out on Sunday shenanigans, but you did. Yeah. You missed out on a lot Sunday,

but if I can get a flight at like, if I can fly out of Aberdeen 11, 12, one, two, anything in that realm. But if Aberdeen a flight at like, if I can fly out of Aberdeen, 11, 12, 1, 2, anything in that realm. But if Aberdeen stuck with the whole like it's a 6 a.m. flight or nothing else, then, you know, I might just have to do the Monday morning. But right now it's I can just, you know, I can cancel the whole thing up to like two days before. So I'll just modify that depending on our flights. But I wanted to be prepared. But I don't know that I want to be out of work an extra day for only get fucking like i was having a whole with one of my coworkers today about how much vacation we actually do get and like they really fuck their

new hires they only get like two weeks and then if you've been there for five years you get basically 18 days so it's like oh that's not that's not enough like i've been there for fucking 10 years like i need more vacation this fucking. But that's just like, and that's weird too. Like I've never, like I never really thought about it, but like the company has existed at least in New York state for, you know,

since 2010 and everyone will, that's no way there's only people still working there from the very beginning. But like the amount of PTO you get maxed out at has like never changed. It's just been like, it's like just over three weeks and it's just what you get. You're like new hires to five years, basically get two and then you get your five years you get three weeks and then it's just you know maybe if you go salary it's a different scale or whatever but like you know i'm not going salary they're just an hourly guy so i don't know just uh

to ramble on about bullshit like that i wasn't gonna cut you off i wanted to see how long ago i was more more venting because like one of the new guy i worked with was venting to me and i was just like god damn it i like i already am like a pessimist about enough shit but like i was kind of okay about like mentally where my job was at and then like when other people were bitching about the job i'm just like you know that's kind of you can't have a point but like i don't need any more negativity in my life so i try to be uh as happy in my life, so I try to be as happy as I can. I try to not bring... Just my personality, I add enough stress to my life.

If I can limit 1% of stress, that's a lot, because I have so much stress that a percentage of my stress is a lot. If you're going to add stress to this podcast you just stop unsubscribe right now i do want to talk i just actually finished watching the new youtube video holy shit that's the first time in 25 weeks i think you had to be this i had some time i had some time i was like no i want to watch this one because we're going to chat about it i want to hear it oh um it was really funny to me um because um like at first it was here's the things you might need to get into power lifting okay great but then it just turned into tanner listing things that cost money right like it was just him rambling on and it's just like you know what else costs money

food and motorcycles and hunting and it was just him listingambling on and it was just like you know what else costs money food and motorcycles and hunting and it was just him listing things that cost money and i don't know if that was his direction but i thought that was really funny and it was like getting into powerlifting doing this doing that and then yeah it was a solid two and a half minutes of stuff that costs money yeah yeah he was he was comparing you know basically other hobbies all these other hobbies would cost as much or more was his logics and his train of thought going with that uh one thing that i picked up on that like i kind of will pick apart a little bit is like i didn't agree i don't think powerlifting costs a tenth of as much as he said it would

because 90% of people that are going to power lift are already in the gym lifting doing something like i don't know anyone that doesn't lift at all and is going to join a gym to train to power lift you're already going to be a meathead in the gym and then be like oh let me just fucking do a meet so in my opinion the only thing you need to power lift the only thing power lifting costs you is maybe a coach if you're going to actually have a coach for a meat prep and uh your fucking your your membership to the federation and then the meat fee itself you know maybe a singlet because you probably are going to have shoes you probably are going to have a belt like everything that he listed i would see if but i guess in his well i guess now that i'm really diving into it he, he might be talking more about just training powerlifting more so than competing in powerlifting.

So I guess if you were going to just not have anything and just be someone that goes to Planet Fitness and doesn't have a belt or sleeves or anything. Yeah, you need that $300 or $400 investment. But then like, I don't know. I don't know many powerlifters that don't still train like year, like have a gym membership or have a home gym. So I don't know if that kind of threw me off, but I guess there are people out there that just kind of go from doing nothing to being all in. They're just getting off the couch and being like, you know what? Signing up. Let's start looking at Federation.

It's funny you mentioned that, Keith. looking at Federation. It's funny you mentioned that Keith, my buddy that moved here back in August. I actually just got him signed up for the December to remember event, which is pretty cool. But also I think I talked him into the lift hard, live easy classic, and he's never consistently lifted before.

And he's just like, yeah, that sounds, sounds cool. I'm going to sign up and do it. And he just, just jumped in feet first. Hey, don't do that because we need the spots for us.

Yeah, no, he's not allowed. He's crew, though. He's crew. Oh, so he's actually crew. Yeah, he is crew. I got him to join. The only thing Tanner left out was, I think, the $60 a year for your Costco membership and the $4 a day for your chicken

bakes. That's the only thing he left out of the very important powerlifter. The pizza pockets, too. You need the pizza pockets. Not to be confused with the pocket pussies that were going around on the Discord all week. Don't act like I wasn't the only one

that saw it. There was like three or four different memes about that shit. Yeah, I saw. I must have missed the joke like I wasn't the only one that saw it. There was like three or four different memes about that shit. Yeah, I saw. I didn't. I must have missed the joke. I wasn't totally following. I must have missed it. Yeah, that.

I think I missed the original context. I think one of the hosts just posted the barbell rescue and then everyone else started getting on to it about being a sex toy. Yeah, when you mix vasoblitz with... Yeah, that was that origin story. You know what? All that sand everybody likes to talk about for their

sandbags, mix that in with your lotion next time you're donating. I mean, that would exfoliate. i don't want to exfoliate that anyway so grayson what what what'd you think of last week's episode we have a little segment here we rate the uh the podcast that massonomics put out the week prior on a scale of negative one to five jd powers uh you know so tell us what you thought of the episode and give us your jd power rating but uh yeah i thought it was good um they you know it's always good to get news about

uh the lift hard live easy so that was exciting. They touched on the December to Remember event a little bit. I'm pretty excited about that. And I wasn't actually familiar with the American Pro, oddly enough. So that was really cool to hear Micah's perspective kind of on how they've grown it and developed it and try to add little things for the lifters to to make it you know about them he wants to run a good meet but then at the same time he wants the lifters to enjoy it you know they prep for it they spend so much time on it so i thought it was good um tough decision i think

i'm gonna have to go with five jd powers oh really yeah i, okay. We'll circle back to see if you want to change that towards the end, but we'll go ahead and put it, we'll mark it in pencil for now, and we'll see if we can't sway you with Joey and I's perception of it. I got through it. You know, I got to say, the stuff about butt rock was really funny,

because I listened to quite a bit of butt rock apparently. We're always sharing Creed memes and stuff like that. Me and Spoon. The one thing though, I don't know if you guys are on TikTok or even if it's come across your Instagram. Have you guys heard

the Banana Bread at Work guy? familiar okay so this there's this dude he's got to either be drunk or stoned and he's just ranting into his camera and he's like today i got some banana bread at work bro and like my mom said if you wait for things bro good things will happen and i waited and i got some fucking banana bread at work. And he goes off and he starts like, you know what's not great? Like when your eye's itchy and you scratch it, it's still fucking itchy, bro. Hell no.

And like he sounds like one of the guys at my work. But listening to the guest of this week, whenever he said, bro, so many times, I started thinking of the banana bread at work, bro. If you guys can't, like, you just look it up in reels or Instagram or just even Google search banana bread at work, bro, and see if you make that connection too. But it was really distracting for me. Now, again, I love the guys, the banana bread guys energy. So it's not like I'm making fun of anybody.

I love that video he's so happy and energetic and trying to find positivity so but i couldn't get past every time he was like bro and like i've just pictured him he has sunglasses on the top of his head and he's like it was anyway um so five jds five jd powers after all that all right that's good that's good yeah no i'm not familiar with mr banana bread but i have heard micah on a couple other podcasts and he was exactly you know that's just that's just his personality very kind of laid back kind of like i don't know if it's hipster it might not be the right word but just very uh very laid back and kind of like just you know like he's like he always just you know choked up before the podcast kind of thing uh but he was uh i did like that he talked about the uh the

end of the american pro um one thing i liked is that he they haven't announced like the prize pool because a lot of times to get those big lifters they got to be like hundred thousand dollars eighty five thousand dollars and like that's the only way you're gonna get like dad bell or fucking john heck go to me because you know they're gonna walk away with 20 30 grand but they're basically he just said whatever the sponsors give like they're not promising a set rate or a you know and then they and then they added uh a a multi earner they added a drug a drug tested day also so then it's like the pool like the uh you know the amount of awards they have to give out is you know going to be more so the the overall the amount of money each person wins is going to be depleted just because there's gonna be more people competing in different divisions so

you know i don't i don't know if it's going to draw as many bigger names i mean i basically i think bell is pretty much retired at this point but i know john hack's still there a handful of the other really big names uh but just talking about how he wasn't just like gonna go into the hole solely for the meat like he wasn't just gonna be like i'm gonna pay eighty thousand dollars out of my own pocket it's like whatever the sponsors give is what they're going to get. That was kind of cool. I really liked that. For all those reasons listed, I pretty much agree with everything

that Grayson said and mostly Joey, minus the not being familiar with banana bread. Yeah, you'll agree with me when you hear it. For all those reasons, I guess, this is hard. I really stress about what i'm going to give this score each week so uh especially since i'm getting so much shit about my imbd i'm just i'm just i'm so afraid that if i give it the wrong score here that people are going to attack my jd power ratings

as well as my imdb so uh we'll go ahead and give it five though and you know come at me tough score oh i'm on images that's why i'm gonna send the banana bread at work dude i'm gonna send i think the youtube clip in the in the in the chat in a few minutes and then when you guys log off here go listen to it and then you can go yeah you're right sounds good we'll get into that do you want to uh the next segment is kind of your baby i don't know if you wanted to introduce that no that was nate's baby well nate's not here to defend himself i thought you came up with it okay so nate's not here man with all our segments the most part, they'll they'll come and go. They'll be here for a minute.

They might go away. They might be consistent. You know, we never know. This is it's all kind of up in the air. But as a counter, more or less to the what grinds my gnarling, we're going to introduce this week a what cleans my gnarling sponsored by Barbell Rescue. Use code NWC for a discount. my narrowing sponsored by barbell rescue use code nwc for a discount uh so everyone the concept of this would be not what pissed you off this week not what you hate but just one happy thing you saw one good deed you observed one thing you thought about that made you smile anything in

that nature you know talk about it for 30 to 90 seconds and i think that'll be a segment for this week if you guys are down. All right, I'll go. It's usually going to be my kids because they're just so damn cute. And just seeing them evolve and get smarter and learn words and stuff. So last night, I was off yesterday. And I spent the entire day just playing the new Spider-Man game. Like I didn't, I didn't move from my rocking chair for like four hours. Like I lifted and then I sat down and played.

And then when dinnertime came, there was only enough leftovers to feed my dad and my wife. And I was like, then you guys have it. I'll figure something out. Cause I knew I had a deadlift today. So I wanted some calories. And then, um, I walk in and I'm looking around and doing the guy thing where you open the cupboard and look and close it. And you go to the fridge and look and you repeat. And my wife goes, just go for pizza.

We've been talking about pizza all day. Just get your shoes on and go get a pizza. I'm like, I know, but the money and I don't want to drive. I've got to find something. And then my four-year-old just said go get a pizza and it was just so like he didn't even look up from his ipad he just just go get a pizza dad and it was like the best because like it was just him being he was just repeating my wife but like he knew what he meant right so that was really that made me very happy nice nice i like to hear that what about you

grayson do you have anything uh worth mentioning this week yeah um i kind of already touched on it but uh i wanted to use it for this segment so i had mentioned um you know that one of my good buddies moved here from he's actually the east coast dealer massachusetts um derek and uh he started lifting with me he's wanting to get you know get in shape get strong stay strong use the strength even and uh so he's been coming to the gym with me for probably close to three months now and uh you know i'm always uh spewing the sister podcast talking about that and whatnot and um i had shared with him you know the december to remember event and you know you should get signed up to the crew it's a good time you know it's very laid back you know uh so he

signed up for that and just decided he was going to commit to the lift hard live easy which i thought was really cool you know like i said he's a really good friend so uh it was kind of a feel-good moment you know he's just willing to jump in So it was kind of a feel good moment. You know, he's just willing to jump in feet first and train with me. And it's nice to have a training partner, too. So we kind of hold each other accountable there. And we're kind of working out what our prep will look like together. So I thought that was pretty neat.

I love it. So you would say that that, you know, cleans the chalk out of your knurling. Definitely. Awesome. Sponsored by Barbell Rescue. I will go last. I agree. I enjoyed hearing what both of them had to say. Not having kids, but I can see the benefit in your kid just being like, no, take care of yourself for a minute kind of thing.

I dig that. And then anytime fellow crew and training partners support each other, that's kind of where I'm going to go off on a little thing with. My training partner, you know, fellow crew and training partners support each other. That's kind of where I'm going to go off on a little thing with my training partner, Big Chris. I met him at the yard. He's been coming down to the no wine cellar for the last seven, eight months since March or seven and a half months, I guess.

Very consistent training partner every Sunday. And then all my lift parties here, like 95% of the time, whenever he's in town, I hadn't seen him for a couple of weeks because I had been sick and then I hurt my back and he was out of town one week. And then when he did show up, he came with bearing gifts. He bought a replacement tripod for one of the ones that I had was broke. And then he picked out a new tripod, which actually goes taller and consolidates a little better. It's really nice. And it has like a little like a not necessarily a thumb screw, but like the thumb adjuster. It's like bright orange. So he just like specifically got it for that.

And I'm like, Oh, that's sick. I'm just, you know, like 50, $60 with a tripod. Just didn't have to do that and just came bearing gifts that here you go, buddy. Like, thanks for letting me train here. So that's pretty cool. I always tell people like, I don't, you don't have to get me anything to come train here. I don't charge or anything like that. It's just like, I get, I get more out of this than you guys do be in here.

But when people actually go out of their way to you know it's not even it's not even a finance thing it's making the gesture someone making a gesture to show you that they appreciate what you built for them uh you know what you built in general like the community that i've tried to build here like if someone actually showing some appreciation for that like in a not necessarily a monetary value not in a monetary way but just in an effort like it took him effort to go specifically find the exact one that i had because he knows i'm ocd and like wanted to just have the exact same one and then he took a shot on a new one and it worked out great i had to like specifically say like i was very uh uh reserved if i was gonna like that or not then it turns out it's fucking awesome. So great job.

Thank you, big Chris that very much cleaned the chalk and rust out of my barbell this week. Yeah. Code NWC at barbell rescue. And, uh, I've seen them before.

I thought about buying them. The shipping is just a bit too much to Canada. So, um, I've seen the product. It's looks like it's great. Um, just,

uh, yeah, I'm going to do a little quick rant um yeah um i my pec and bicep are on fire today and i had a an rp10 deadlift day and just to protect myself i thought to myself i'm gonna put on an elbow wrap just to see if that helps in any way. It did not. My warm-ups were gross with that thing on, and then I hit my top set easy. I could have probably done a third, but I just thought against it

because it was only two at 75% or something like that. Like it was, it was insane. It was, it, it did not help. And the reason I'm talking about this honestly, um, is cause next week is the garage gym. Nope. Yes. The sister podcast used to, well, it was a sponsor one year. I've always touted for it and been a fan of it,

but it does launch next week. I will be heading over to Steve's house to do that. We are going to film together and, you know, get your submissions in. It's really easy to submit. You just put it in. You just record your three top lifts.

Most people do SPD, but some people do crazy other stuff that is like in the general realm of that. Um, because you can just win for submitting, you know, like people submit their kids lifts as an additional entry and you just, yeah.

And it's randomly drawn. So like, if you're lifting at home, just, just submit something, get them some more sponsors, get them more views and we'll all keep doing it. Yep. And more sponsors, get them more views, and we'll all keep doing it.

Yep, and the rules are very loose with it. Just to piggyback on Joey's there, it's actually October 28th through November 5th. So by the time you're listening to this podcast with your ears, as you do, it'll already be going on, and you'll have to, like, five days from the time this comes out, Tuesday, give or take take to get them submitted. So, yeah, I was I had aspirations to hit some like heavyish numbers.

I was going to start this Sunday and go like because it's the cool thing about it, too, is it doesn't have to be a mock meet. You don't have to do all three lifts in a day. Like I historically will do like three individual days over the course of the week and just take like an rp9 nine and a half single so i'm not like fucking my training up too bad and killing my body but still putting together like you know a decent total but with my back still being like 70 ish percent uh i'm gonna do variations so i might do like a 135 front squat or something just to get some variation of a squat in whatever whatever i can squat ish for pain free. I am going to push my feet up bench. Like I'm, I think two 65 is my PR for a feet up bench for a single.

So if I can tweet to push out two 67 and a half or two 70, that'd be fucking awesome. But I'm not going to kill myself to do it. And then maybe like do an obnoxiously high block pool or rack pool or something, just all depending on what my back is. But, but with, with Joe doesn't give a shit what you do. And people even want... I

listened to a podcast the other day where a guy said he won the most expensive gift they ever gave away. It was like a prime fitness rack. What was supposed to be just like a corner stack, a cable stack.

But they ended up like scoping the guy's page out and being like, Oh no, we're just going to give him the $5,000. We're not, not, not the $2,000. And the guy only submitted like a bench, like,

cause he like was, he was either sick or busy all week. So when he, he only submitted one lift and it's all random draw, draw the hat shit. So yeah, go, go check out garage gym competition on Instagram.

Follow, look at the rules, figure out what you have to do to submit and take it out. Draw the hat shit. So yeah, go check out Garage Gym Competition on Instagram. Look at the rules. Figure out what you have to do to submit and take it out. That'll be about four weeks away from my actual meet. So I don't think I'm going to be pushing any big numbers for the GGC. But we thought we'd get together and just work on some cues. And he was like, well, why don't we just film for the GGC at the same time? And I'm like, yeah, that makes perfect sense. Love it.

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Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Join the crew. crew hang out come sit with us we do fun things as nick nocturnal would say fun things all right uh who wants to get sorry i you you know you can't see this right now but you guys can i am touching my beard constantly and it's because i i shampooed it tonight and i don't want to put oil in it until tomorrow so it is just like straw off my face and it's just nodding every time i touch it so if you're wondering why i'm constantly touching my beard tonight it's just a very uncomfortable beard yeah i hadn't noticed that until you said something and now i'm gonna i'm gonna keep it running total and i. And I'm clawing at it. And you'll see me going like, ugh, because there's knots in it.

And I should just oil it and stop being a nightmare. I just don't want to smell oil all night. Well, I got an idea. I want to hear what the guest has to say about your beard. I think it's about time to get him on the horn. Yeah, yeah. Let's do it. Kick everybody out.

Hey, Big Grayson, is that you? Yeah. Can you guys hear me? Yes, sir. You're live on the Unpaid and Underrated podcast. We're not going to do any preamble or anything like that. We're going to jump right in just to make sure we don't miss any gold. Very nice. Let's do it. All right. Keith, you fire away, buddy. Well, Grayson, for anyone that's not familiar, Joey and I know you a little better. You have been an old school, long term member of Mathenomics Gym. So let's just hear your origin story, how you found the gym, how you found the crew, all that.

Yeah, it's kind of funny you say that. I was racking my brain trying to remember. I think it's been probably known the other hosts for, I don't know, 10 years, maybe. I think from memory, I used to work at a car dealership in middle school, high school. And you guys are familiar with Big Ross, Big Mount Rossmore. That's where he's at. And so I got to know him through there. I'm pretty sure that's how I had met Tommy and Tanner, because I lifted at Snap Fitness in Aberdeen for a while.

Maybe the gym that shall not be named. But so I had gotten a I mean, I knew of of those guys, you know, I knew they lifted at the Y and like Tanner, you know, one of the bigger guys, um, pretty strong. And, um, I had gotten into their YouTube channel pretty early on. Um, I don't even remember now, honestly, but, um, I wasn't an original supporting member of, um, the, the first location of the of the gym the version one but i did join shortly after um so that was that was super cool gym um totally different from what i was used to you know commercial like fancy lighting and all that stuff it was it was really cool just to have like kind of a a quieter laid back you know like like-minded lifting environment so um yeah that was pretty cool

love it love that uh you were able to find them years ago uh so let's see sorry here uh so you've been are you from here you are the only person that's actually competed in all three of the Strongman shows? Or do I have that right? Or just basically that you have competed? I think it was, yeah, I've competed in all three. I think it was the car deadlift. Because the first two years, everyone got to do the car. And then the third year, it was kind of, they kind of let you pick what you wanted to do.

And I was like, well, I think the car is the one thing I'm okay at, you know, I'm not, I'm not good at strong man by any means, but I really enjoy doing the car. So. Was that the one where it was basically like a, like,

like blue team versus red team or something. And like each, each couple of guys, like, like one guy did a certain event or something. Yep. Yeah. That's exactly what it was.

Nice. Now was that the David versus Goliath event or is that something completely different? So I hear, I hear there's a, was that the David versus Goliath event, or is that something completely different? I hear there's a good story about the David versus Goliath at the 2018 Masonomics Strongman Showdown. Do you remember that? I don't know if I'm familiar. I mean, the guy I competed against in the car deadlift was a huge dude. I don't know if that's what... Maybe, yeah.

That's probably... It was Tanner asking, so I'm assuming it was more of a jab at you being david and anyone like six foot of him but above his goliath yeah that so that would have been big matt then yeah he's uh probably six six maybe six seven so i look pretty silly standing next to him okay then that's that's 100 with that that that's that's 100 where what he was fishing for then so yeah and i did beat him that's probably's 100% what that that that's that's 100% where what he was fishing for then so yeah and I did beat him that's probably where he's going with that so nice short short short game for the win yep nice uh now was that before or after you were a uh you know you posed

for the massonomics uh calendar oh god and do you remember and do you remember which month you were for the calendar i i don't wow i forgot all about that this is like that'd be like circa 18 19 something like that maybe even earlier that was good that was a long time ago i think they still have like the calendar is still in the gym hanging up right it is yeah we looked at it go ahead I wonder if I wonder if Tanner actually like even though the dates would be wrong if he actually like changes the month just to like get a new body on the on the wall every now and then or if it's just like it's just collecting dust and only got looked at it's lift hard live easy and then before that never yeah I wish I would have got one I

I had we looked at it when we had stopped by the gym for the lift hard love easy again so that's it's always funny well i'm gonna ask something that you ask everybody you know being that you were looks like you have card number four so you're supporting member number four correct you've been around a while what is the one piece of massonomics merch that you missed and you wish you had if any the one that i missed hannah actually has the baseball tee i want a baseball tee the it's all white with the black sleeves. And she actually,

she wore that when we came to Aberdeen for the Lift Hard Love Easy, and we met the hosts at Pounders. I remember that, yeah. Yeah, she got some clout wearing that one. That's the one that I wish I had that I don't. What do they call the ragler, raglan? There's a name for those. Baseball tee is what most people call them,

but like there's a name for the cut. Oh yeah. Like the, the, the, the long, like the tee, the long sleeve that goes down. I can't think of the name of that either.

Uh, yeah, it's kind of like a three quarter sleeve or something. Yeah. That's what I'm familiar with it being more. I can't think of the name, but specifically though, but,

uh, speaking of Hannah, I just want to give her a shout out if she's listening. She gave us, gave me the most literal, in-depth, filled out questionnaire return sheet that anyone like to where it was pages. So I'm sorry, Hannah, if we don't get through everything. You were spectacular in your dedication to fill that information out and give me the most detailed information. Very much appreciated. Anyone listening that's going to be a future guest, please

prod your city event other to give us as much information as possible because it makes the preparation for the episode so much easier. So huge thank you to Hannah. And when will Hannah become crew? Does she have any interest in doing that? You know, can, can, can,

can your guys' household, you know, literally afford another supporting membership? I mean, you might have to get rid of one of the cats if you maybe do another membership. Yeah. I mean, we've, we've talked about, you know, payday lending, maybe as an option. I told her she's crew adjacent, so she's close, but she's gotta, she's gotta get in. No,

she's super appreciated for giving up all that information. Uh, I don't know what she said, but I know she was stressing about it a little bit. I think she was just as excited or more excited than I was to be on just to supply the information, which is pretty cool. So it shows.

Yeah. She's the best. Okay. Um, big David Mills has an FMK for you. Uh, do we, you know what FMK is?

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. All right. It took me a second. I got it. So massonomics, Jim,

massonomics podcast and massonomics apparel. FMK. Boy. gym, massonomics podcast, and massonomics apparel. F M K. Boy. Good one, Dave. Appreciate it. Gym massonomics apparel or the podcast podcast. Yeah.

So this hurts, but I'm going to, I'm going to say just because i don't live there k to the gym i think i'm gonna have to do it just because i don't live there if if i if i live there could be a different story um gonna have to M the podcast, I think. It's a good listen. I don't want to give that up, you know, nice and steady. Yep. And I'm going to have to F the apparel, I think.

All right. Sound answer. I don't think anyone could, you know, judge you for answering that way. I definitely don't have any notes. Let's see. So what is, outside of the one you're wearing, what do you think the second most OG Masonomic shirt you have is, if it's not that one?

Oh, man. I've got, I don't know how old it is, because the timeline's just really, like, just run together. I don't even remember old it is because the timelines just really run together. I don't even remember the release order anymore. In 1980, there was a Fargo company. I have the Curlhard shirt. I think that's pretty early. Maybe more exclusive anyway.

I don't know if that was a limited run. Um, geez, I'd almost have to run through my closet again to look, you know, I have my favorites that I wear. I love the bench in three 15. That's I'm, I probably need to slow down the rate at which I wear that because I'm

wearing it out. So I'd like that to run again. So we've got a handful of different nicknames for you and the one that stuck out to me the most wasn't even a nickname well GK do you want to tell the the millions of fans

what the K in GK is yeah so that's pretty much my family and I would say close friends call me that G for my first name Grayson obviously And then Keith is my middle name. So, okay, GK. Nothing fancy, but it kind of rolls off the tongue. And that started super young. I think it was maybe from my dad. I want to point out that Keith found that more interesting than Tasty Muskrat. Oh, God. Well, I was going to get,

I wanted to, I wanted to, of all the ones to ask first. It's my name. Yeah. Thanks. My name is the muskrat. Like,

yeah, I want to hear about that too. Wow. Yeah. That one. That's a, that's a old gaming handle. Um,

uh, my uncle, he lives in Sioux Falls here. We're, we're pretty close. Um, you know, we grew up hunting fishing he you know he'd watch all my sporting events and all this and that and we'd fish together and whatnot so um he's a big gamer too and his uh his gamer tag i think it was in middle school he kind of got the handle um i think it came from basketball he somehow got the nickname playful muskrat and as a little kid i just thought that was the funniest silliest thing ever and i'm like well i need to think of a play on that that's maybe equally as just totally off the wall or

random and originally it was testy muskrat like uh like agitated maybe in a way would be the right way testy muskrat and then it somehow switched into tasty muskrat and uh like agitated maybe in a way would be the right way testy muskrat and then it somehow switched into tasty muskrat and that's just stuck that's better i think that one's better yeah good because testy muskrat might be a dual meaning there yeah yeah that's a there's a word for dual meanings totally different thing I'm pulling tonight I'm podcasting stone sober and I can't hear a thing like my brain is not functioning

at all you need that little alcohol to prime the pump there right? innuendo that's the word I just forgot innuendo I decided not to

drink tonight because i only have to work a half day tomorrow and i don't want to like i want to be able to enjoy my friday as much as possible um and like the last couple times i even had like only like having like three or four beers it was enough to just be like kind of feel like shit in the morning and i i want to have an amazing i got a lot of shit i want to get done around the house tomorrow so fucking you know get to bed go work four hours no beer come back in here just you know pound away doing some shit around the house that's my goal um but what the fuck is i so i definitely i legitimately had no clue what a platypus was and i only kind of know what a muskrat is other than it's like it's some kind of little fucking rodent of some short. Right. Like, what the fuck is a muskrat?

I saw one recently for the first time ever. That's fun. Yeah, we. So I grew up duck hunting a lot and they at least where I've seen them frequent anyway, they're like a little. They look like like a wet rat. You know, they frequent waters. They got like a long, slender tail. Just a little furry guy.

Interesting. People eat them a lot, weirdly. They gotta be bigger than rats. Yes. Yeah, they're... They're noticeably large. They're like 5'6". Come on, cat.

I like how that cat was looking at the camera screen like, what are you guys up to? I love cats. his turn to interview. So were you I'm kind of I don't know if I copy and pasted it wrong or just the way the sentence was sentenced up. Were you named the strongest baby ever? Or was that was that something that was actually coined to you? Or is this just something that she like typed out? I don't know that i'm following either it says scorpio baby born the strongest baby ever in

western northeast south dakota interesting yes skip it you're you're you're you're you're you're her strong baby maybe that that's it that's what it is we'll move on now so sometimes it's hard to because like it you know reading stuff sometimes come across the way the person intended it sometimes and then i look like an asshole i have a cat question i have a cat question okay uh it's two part uh what's that cat's name and is it true that only male cats can be ginger uh his name is patrick good name named after spongebob we have another orange cat named gary i actually don't know the answer to that art and in fact it probably looks like that's true because our two orange cats are male cats i i will i'll hit it on the lugal are both of murph's cats boys?

I think so. Like, I think I've heard that, like, only ginger, like, only male cats can be ginger. And only female cats are calico. Interesting. I'm going to Google it. I do. So, our cats, we got them. So, we think we, this Saturday is a month we've had them i believe four weeks they've gotten so they're fucking like not double but they're they're like 33 percent

bigger than they were when we got them a month ago it's crazy because they were three months so now they're coming up on four months so it's just like it's crazy the because um let's see the uh mabel was bigger than dotty when we first got him, and now Dottie is bigger than Mabel substantially. And you can see that she's going to be a 10 to 15-pound cat, and the other one's going to be an 8-pound cat or something. I don't think Mabel's going to get big. I'm assuming you can kind of judge a cat by like its paw size, where the one cat has like kind of like its hand is like a third smaller than the other one's hand. But the one that has bigger feet now was like tiny when we first got them. And they're like the same litter. So I just found that to be amusing.

Cats walk on their toes. Right. Like where they hinge is actually technically their heel. It turns out that no, not only male cats can be orange, but about 80% of orange cats are male. And it has to do with recessive genes coming

from the female side or something. Speaking of orange cats, did you guys know brown cats are a thing? And they're super rare? Like a full like like yeah like like like like an entirely brown yeah entirely brown cat i've never seen one in person but i've seen them like in videos that's a thing it's crazy there's blue cats too and they're gorgeous speaking of ginger ratios is there we go no no no are, are, I don't know enough about it. Like, are there, would you say there's an equal amount of females in the world that are ginger versus male? Or is that like really lopsided like cats? Like, or like, are like out of the 100% of the gingers in the world are 70% male and 30% female? Or is it like 55, 45? Like something that's close enough to be in half.

We didn't discuss that at the last meeting, so I'm not sure. You're going to have to spit out my drink on that one. That was good. I'm having a beer. I'm curious. I'll have to look that one up at some point, but not now. We'll just get back to Grayson here. Oh, God, there's so much.

So much stuff. some point, but not now. Well, let's get back to Grayson here. Oh, God, there's so much. Settling the bar way too high. So you are allergic to loose-fitting shirts and shorts with an M-sing longer than five inches, huh? That is a preference. Yeah.

So not an allergy preference, okay. We'll have to, you know, correct the notes on that. Let the record show. All I'll say is if your knees aren't showing, you're wearing pants. I like it, yeah. These cargo shorts that go down your knees, these John cena things that the dudes think every you know who are short shorts you look like a yeah yeah yeah hit leg

day and then come and tell me you're not gonna wear something small it's interesting too and maybe it was just because of the the trends i don't know i definitely grew up wearing shorts past my knees 100 and i don't think i own a single pair that's probably even touching my knees preferred probably you know five or seven inch inseam is definitely the way to go seven's almost too long yeah i would and the the shirts anyway i my defense, right? I'm a little on the short side. I think Joey and I might actually be the same height.

I'm around 5'4". So depending on the cut, the blank of shirt, right? They're a little too long if I get a large. And I don't like my shirts to be, you know, I like them. I would say right around my waist. You know, I don't like them long by any means but you know when i get when i get the mediums they tend to be a little bit on the tighter side up top yeah i'm running into the same thing um i actually don't mind if they're a little long because i hate i have to crouch down a lot at work and i always feel like my ass is hanging out

if i'm wearing something that's just a little short. But everything is starting to get tight around the shoulders and back. And, like, I wish I could say, like, they're getting tight around the gut. Because then I could just have a complaint. But it's just a humble brag to be like, oh, yeah, all my smalls stop fitting. My mediums aren't fitting. But it's all, like, up in the shoulders and back. You know, I don't know what's going on. Like, shut up. Everybody knows what

you're getting at. So, when Joey mentioned chicken bakes earlier, I noticed you were kind of quiet. And now that I get back to the notes here, unless something's changed in the last few weeks, you have not had chicken bake yet.

That has changed. Oh, okay. What do you think of had chicken bake yet that has changed oh okay okay let's let's what do you think of the chicken bake then i think it's fantastic and is this the food court chicken bake not the frozen one right with completely different macros this is the food court chicken bake in fact the first time we got it we decided we had to make an event out of it and park our full cart of groceries and sit down in the food court and really, really take it all in while it was fresh. And I think we were both thoroughly impressed. So much so that roughly a week later, Hannah brought a couple more home. So big fan of the chicken bake macros at all. Yeah, they're not bad. The closest Costco to me uh u.s would be rochester okay yeah that's that's so i can throw a rock and hit that one like it is literally like 0.71 i can't literally throw

a rock there but it is it is under a mile from my house i drive by it every single day twice i bet you could throw a football clear over them their mountains yep yeah absolutely i'm gonna be honest when keith said he could throw a rock to rochester i thought uh minnesota's pretty far away that just so we're just talking about that in the discord someone oh uh big big big paul floss been friend of the broadcast whoa friend of the podcast. Whoa. Floss, friend of the podcast, was actually in Rochester, Minnesota. And he had posted something about that. And I was like, I re-shared it with not my Rochester. You got to kick out of that.

But, yeah, no, I get that a fair amount sometimes where I tell people I'm from Rochester and I don't specify New York. Because I don't know which one's bigger or which one's not. I mean, where you're at, I'm sure you guys might not even know there is a Rochester New York but out here it's like I didn't know there's Rochester Minnesota until a few years ago what I was gonna say I don't even think I've been to Rochester so I couldn't tell you which one's bigger when you get a chicken bake do you ask how big it is and if you can get an extra patty or that's that's usually reserved for uh sit down restaurants when i'm getting a burger generally what so what answer can they give you to not make you ask if you can get a second patty do i get the one pound burger and you're like, what if two? Yeah.

Honestly, it would probably have to be, I think I have yet to see a one pound standard burger. That would probably do it. I think a one pound Patty would be okay. You know, it feels like, it feels like they do like a one third or a half a lot.

And I'm like, well, you know, is it a couple bucks? Okay. Yeah. Let's, let's, let's throw it on there.

Definitely. That's pretty funny. There was a point in your life where you were on the Gaston diet? That doesn't eggs daily? Oh, God. Yeah. That was before we moved in together. I was living with a roommate, and I still eat four to five every morning, but I don't do like the half a dozen or whatever for supper.

It was just really convenient and super cheap. Like that was before eggs. You know, that was probably 2016, 17. So I could get 60 eggs at Walmart for like four dollars. And I love scrambled eggs anyway. And ketchup. I have an obsession with ketchup. So, oh, no, eggs. Ketchup is obsession with ketchup, so I use ketchup and eggs.

Ketchup is a trash condiment. We've talked about this. Yeah, I get it. Hannah throws a lot of shade at me for my ketchup to this day. I'm on team Hannah then, bud, because my wife won't even let us have it in the house because she hates the smell. My kids love ketchup, but she deprives them of it.

I just don't care for it but she's like she's like no i'm not washing any dish that has ketchup on it like she's a monster about it yeah i'm picking up like the three the three big containers from costco it's like you gotta have it french's or heinz french's or heinz usually heinies or Heinz? Usually Heinz. Yeah? Heinz, 100%. And I think that's what Costco stocks. So when you still lived in Aberdeen, were you a big Tyler Effenstone, kind of kindred spirits with your

ketchup obsession? He is a huge ketchup guy. I did not know that. Oh yeah. In the back catalog, there's a couple episodes where they just kind of of he was specifically talked about like just excessively putting ketchup on shit so i just always kind of stuck out to me so it's a legendary condiment very versatile okay so i there's one in here that i thought i'd talk about and i'm not

at any way an expert in this um but I'm going to say exactly what's typed here. Self-proclaimed weeb, but you've only watched five anime in the last one and a half years. So first of all, you have to explain now to people who don't know what a weeb is. I am aware,

which is why this is so funny to me. And then we're going to let everybody judge if you actually fall into the weeb realm so this is what's funny is i don't even think i could properly explain a weeb because i don't even fully understand it um hannah definitely loves multiple you know tons of different animes and up until i don't know probably probably six six eight months maybe a year um she's got me into some pretty good ones that i've really liked uh we're we're in the middle of she's already seen it but um i'm in the middle of full metal alchemist right now and i'm really enjoying that um yeah it was it was kind of a running joke amongst us like she was trying to get me to watch him for for the longest time and i'm like i just don't have an interest and enjoying him now anyway i it's the same way my wife really enjoys it my

wife's an artist and she really enjoys that kind of stuff so like studio ghibli i'll watch um there's some of them that like yeah i enjoy these they're the weird mystical stuff one punch man will always be the best because i think that it has our sense of humor um you're both giving me a blank look have you not watched one punch man i haven't i think hannah has but i have heard of it but i haven't watched it if you like crew humor you'll love Punch Man, because it is essentially this one guy who is the strongest superhero in the world, but he's kind of stupid. And every episode is him trying to get to the fight with the big, strong villain and beating him with one hit. And then just being disappointed that nobody's strong enough to fight him. And it has like this whole,

like his origin story is he just did a hundred pushups a day, ran a hundred kilometers a day and like became the strongest in the world till his hair fell out. Like it's the stupidest, but it is, it is worth watching. So I have a question about that show then. Okay.

Cause this, this is my pet peeve when it comes to anime. How many episodes are there? I think there's only two seasons. Okay, that's good. I'll watch that. I haven't seen the second season yet because it's hard to get here in Kanata. But I was going somewhere with this, the weeb thing. Oh, okay.

So yeah, a weeb is a white person from america who has become obsessed with japanese culture but through anime so not like real japanese culture like what they perceive it to be that this is the explanation that was given to me if i'm wrong like tell me i guess in the comments um so like do you say things like uwu and kawaii and yeah have you ever said uwu uh probably once or twice as a complete joke yeah like ironically yeah definitely but that's how it starts yeah I hope Hannah listens to this. Does Hannah say woo-woo? No, she does not.

Oh, good, good, good. Okay, that concludes our weeb segment. Before you got into the job you're doing now, which is a security manager for, basically, you're like a digital security manager of some sort, right you or tell me yeah tell people tell me what you do now that i'll segue to my question um the the business i've been at they're uh managed service providers

so they're basically outsourced third-party it for businesses you know they can't afford in-house it they don't want to train people whatever um we're we're full outsourced it so help desk support um you know we manage their their hardware assets and uh i work on the security side with another guy we're a team of two so um you know cloud app security workstation security pretty it's it's very much an umbrella term where i work know, we don't have enough guys to have like specialized security teams for like one specific thing. Yeah. So it's kind of, yeah, it's very much learn about this and then tomorrow I need you to do this. And then the next day do this instead sort of thing. So it's, I learn a lot though. It's, it's been really fun the last two and a half years. Nice. Uh, but you, it looks like you initially went to school to be you know uh human you got a bs and human performance and fitness and you uh were a

personal trainer for a minute so that's kind of what i wanted to get into it said only a short time so tell me about your time as a personal trainer do you have any funny stories it's been long enough now do you have any shitty clients you want to throw under the bus uh any funny any funny stories or just like let's know what this fucking asshole did any stories i honestly well okay i had one client that i don't have a specific story but he very much would say uh uh how should i say this questionable things he's kind of a womanizer and it was one of those things like you know we're in a we're in a public gym you know and you know we have this business relationship so it was uh very awkward yeah that's probably the word and you know he's paying me whatever but uh yeah that was a short time because so so my original goal was to follow uh big jake the snake shout out uh he's

a strength coach has a cscs and that was kind of my goal of where i wanted to end up um and i found that as i was training people um at the at snap fitness and i i assisted manage the gym as well so um helping run it you know manage the memberships and clean it up and things like that. I found that like training people all day, I had just completely lost all motivation to work out, which was like super stressful for me. That's kind of the one the one thing that I've done. I don't know, probably since 12, 13, you know, you get into lifting because the coaches want you to. So I was like, that was a big kind of a wake-up call. And then I actually ended up talking to a division two strength coach, just, he was lifting there on a random day. I think he

had a guest pass and he's telling me, you know, the pay wasn't great and I'm traveling all the time and I'm very much like a homebody kind of guy. You know, I don't like to. I definitely have a limit. I recharge better like at home. So it's kind of like, you know, the combination of that and the stress that kind of pushed me away from the gym. When Hannah and I got together, she was going to go back to school. So that was kind of the kickstart of like,

well, if you're going, we have to move. That's when we moved to Watertown. So, I mean, I'm going to go with you. So I'm going back to school too.

Nice. You're in Watertown, eh? That's where we were. Now we're in crew falls. We actually know where Watertown is now. That's, that's,

that's somewhere between Aberdeen and Crewe Falls. Yeah, we had Jack Nade on because of that. He's from Watertown, right? Yep, yep. Okay, basically square in the middle. Old fucking state square, right? That's true. Big rectangle.

Yeah, yeah. Potato, potato. Bag, bag. Leg. Leg, yeah. Oh, there's so much. potato potato bag bag flake yeah there's so much so much she did so like in one negative because she did

such a good job as I should have gone back through and like reduced the two sentences to like three words and then I could like jump out at me because like i'm trying to talk and then read and i'm like okay where is the where is okay so so no we really appreciate it's more on me for not making it more podcast friendly because it's so much information but uh you are a enjoyer of crispy boys let's let's hear about that. What's your favorite crispy boy. I would say overall,

so I'm not much of a beer drinker, so not really a, uh, crispy boy. Enjoy your there, but very much a sparkling water. Enjoyer. Well,

that's what I consider. Fair enough. Um, we're a big fan of the, um, spin drifts. If you guys are familiar with those, those are probably our favorite and a close

second for me is um the water lose as well they have so many good flavors i think we can get those at costco too good deal uh were you super into it before they started kind of talking about it on the podcast because i had never fucking heard of a sparkling water until the podcast and it probably took me another six months to like even dip my toe in and then i was like oh that's kind of shitty and then i like tried it another six months later i was like oh i got a good one and then it's like it's like you know it's like one out of three might taste like piss and then it's just a matter of finding the ones that you like yeah i had absolutely no interest in sparkling waters before uh you know i always drank pop but you know we started out with like trying different bubblies and things like that

it's more the mainstream ones and uh it's it's we basically don't leave costco or walmart without some sort of sparkling water love it no no think way. Like, Massanomics in the last few years have basically introduced a genre of drink, if you will. So because it's like there's 30 different brands, you can't just say like, this one company is making a million dollars off of us. But like, this segment of, you know, beverages, there's 200 ish people that have probably like you gotta think there's 300 plus crew you guys have probably a thousand people listen to the podcast maybe whatever more I'm sure at least a percentage of them so even if it's just half of the

discord that's 150 200 people that many people have tried something on like someone else's recommendation via the podcast and via the discord like that's kind of cool like the same thing with like the chicken bakes there's probably 30 40 50 people that have tried chicken bakes in the last couple months but sparkling waters would clearly like i think that's the one that everyone has at least tried a fucking six pack or a 12 pack of some variation of a sparkling water in the last couple years since being in massonomics uh world massonomic adjacent i think that's just cool yeah i'd be curious if they put a poll out like yes or no do you enjoy

sparkling waters because i feel like the general consensus in in the discord is it seems like most people enjoy them i could be wrong but it feels like it's more of a favorable response overall i would i'd say 70 plus percent probably like if i had to guess yeah i never really enjoyed them and as a bartender i used to say that anybody um who ordered a soda water was an alien pretending to be human because soda water was disgusting and then yeah i got on my massonomics and i think like it was probably about two months and then i was like fine i'll try a bubbly and ended up liking the bubbly and that moved me over to pc pc is the superior of them up here in canada for sure to try me so grayson what was it like being the middle child with the

with the with the sisters on either end you know it was it was good i think i think if you asked my sisters they they would probably have a different response me being the only boy um they they pretty much if they get a chance they'll bring it up that i was definitely a mama's boy um looking back now, yeah, definitely. At the time, I 100% would have said no to that, but I definitely got babied. No, I had a really good relationship with both my sisters growing up too. So yeah, my older sister kind of took the brunt of early curfews and very strict rules, of early curfews and very strict rules. And I kind of got to ride the wave of, you know, okay, second kid,

we're a little more laid back. And okay, sure, yeah, you can stay out late, whatever. Maybe come home in the morning. So it was good. Now, on that train, is your baby sister okay then? Did she just not have a curfew at all and run run run wild after that? She was easily and she laughs about it now. She was easily the the wild child of the three of us.

One hundred percent. Nice. ever fight over who gets to use which Tupperware for, or which, which big mixing bowl for cereal or which big, you know, cookie sheet for, you know, food. There is a very specific, I've got it in my head, very specific Tupperware bowl that I like to use for cereal. You know, I, for me, it's, it's very much an event when I have my, my supper, I, you know, I got to have a show on and everything. So I don't, I don't want to have to get back up to get a bigger bowl or another bowl of cereal.

So I'm just going to make a super big bowl of cereal and, uh, Tarkin back to big Nathan. I've saw some of his Instagram posts. He's going to hate me for this, but I love milk. So all the cereal milk and all it's gone. The bigger the bowl,

the better. I, I i i i i grew up like cereal was like my like i ate cereal like three or four nights a week for dinner half the times because it was just easy once i kind of like fended for myself it's just like what i had but uh this is one of this is so this will harken back to the to the sister podcast of kind of some segments they would do uh basically just like the fattest thing you've ever done and like this one now that you just mentioned that bowl like i i so like a lot of times yeah when i'm gonna be fat i'm gonna eat a big ass bowl of cereal so have you ever been so fat that you got your bowl you made a big bowl of cereal and then you were like well i'm probably gonna eat a little bit more than this and i don't want to get up so you bring the gallon jug milk and the box of cereal

out to the living room with you and just sit it next to you. You eat your full bowl of cereal and then fill the fucker back up. Because I think I like it's not something I did regularly, but I vividly remember doing that once or twice and just kind of being like judging myself in the moment of like you fat piece of shit. You just ate like an entire bowl of cereal in in one sitting, but you had to make it twice because it was so much fucking cereal. So, yeah, i haven't done that probably probably the closest i ever got the the cookie sheet thing uh when i used to live with my parents uh growing up i remember there was there's a couple instances but after a football game uh my mom had gotten wendy's and it was just tons of spicy nuggets and fries and junior cheeseburgers

and i'm just throwing them all on the cookie sheet and head downstairs i don't want to make the second trip upstairs so give me that sounds like a nightmare yeah you're taking my gains by making me come up the stairs right i played a football game i want to relax so i guess we'll harken back to i want to say big steve's episode um what's your cereal of choice i'm gonna have to go with reese's puffs big reese's puffs kick lately probably the last couple months uh getting the big family size which is funny because before that i don't think i'd eaten cereal in probably three or four years you know it was just the eggs for breakfast pretty much and now it's like reese's puff bowl for dinner yeah we get the minis the reese's puff minis for

the kids they also have a pure cinnamon toast crunch minis oh yeah yeah those are those are flying off the not me i'm throwing my cereal out i bought that protein circle like months ago and it's trash so i just which which kind because I've been getting one at Costco that I actually really like. Uh, this one's called truly they're a Canadian company. Um, but yeah, I full on bite into rocks every bowl.

Like, I think I mentioned it when Steve was on, it's just, it's been unpleasant, very sucralose tasting. Uh, vector is I think the best one I've had. Okay.

What's the Costco when you're getting, Grayson? It's called Three Wishes. It's like a... Kind of a faint cinnamon. You know, it's obviously not gonna... The flavor's not gonna punch you in the face. Yeah, well, it's fucking protein cereal. That's the whole point of it.

It's gonna be shitty, but it's just gonna be just good enough to be like, okay, I'm getting my protein and I don't have to fucking cook eggs in the morning like i can just like like you know i do that every day that's my jam yeah it's i'd say that one's worth trying okay i'm gonna forget what you said so if you can dm me that at some point oh yeah i appreciate that because but then again i'm like costco is weird though like our costco gets shit in and i'm not gonna see it ever again and i'm assuming costco across the fucking country has to be like there's got to be like regional like you're only gonna get this and like this you know northeastern versus the midwest you know i have a gripe with that harken back to the

the frozen chicken bakes we in crew falls do not have them and if we do i am blind because i cannot find them they're they're in the frozen food section. No, I, I, I, I, we do have them here. I don't know if we've always had them.

I randomly, like, it's one of those things that like, I probably walked by them for the past four years, but until I heard someone talk about them in the podcast, it just, well, like I didn't even know what it was.

They definitely are smaller and the macros do. It's like, it's weird. Like they're smaller, but they're fattier and less protein and more carbs like i don't i don't understand how that's like scientifically possible because it's the same fucking thing but like you're having more carbs and more fat and less protein and it's smaller very weird because it's not the same thing well yeah no but i mean like why why can't it be the same thing well i okay so i have a little insight and i'll say i think i mentioned it before

sometimes the food court makes things fresh versus just selling you the frozen ones yeah so i don't know if that's what's happening here but that could be it or they could just be like frozen chicken and everything else is fresh i don't know but that's how you get sometimes different products so grayson if you did have frozen chicken bakes and you were to eat them in front of a you know your tv and you're watching a youtube video hannah says some of those youtube videos might be as riveting as how to roll how roller coasters work and i think she's setting this up to just kind of like pick on you for watching random like how-to videos but as a guy i go down a rabbit hole sometimes watching that shit like it can be very intriguing like there used to be tv shoes growing up tv shows growing up when we actually used to watch regular tv of like tv shoes really big shoes it's your fucking, you know, massonomics shoes. Yeah, sorry.

I just if you wanted to rebut her kind of jab about you watching riveting things such as roller coasters. No, it's she just thinks it's absolutely hilarious. She'll, you know, maybe bring me like a water, ask me for anything or, you know, just come in and chat for a little bit. And I've got a second monitor set up. Usually, there was a really big kick there where it was roller coaster videos. It was a specific channel where this guy was explaining the biomechanics of roller coasters and the brake sections. I love roller coasters for what it's worth. I think they're a blast.

She would just get a kick out of coming into the office and I'm watching something random. Like last night, I think I was watching a guy build a like snow shelter underground in Alaska. Just, I don't even know how I got there, but it was a 20 minute video and I watched the whole thing. Let's see well let's see here um she said we wouldn't believe how many genes you run through so i would imagine by now you know that you need to buy those fucking stretchy jeans that you're you're you know as a fucking power lifter squatter

short king you ain't gonna fit into fucking wranglers unless they're like you know husky and clearly i think i'm assuming like i honestly haven't wore jeans in years i only wear like kind of like looser fitting cargo pants just because jeans are not gonna fit i'd have to wear like a size like fucking like 42 probably like have my legs fit in a jean and i really don't want to do that the only so the the my casual jeans that i have that i the only ones i buy are stretchy now my work pants aren't but uh she's most likely referring to uh when we lived in watertown i worked a part-time job at menards and i worked in uh hardware um and that was i'm i don't know i didn't wear an odometer but you know or pedometer yeah i'm not a car yeah no not not a vehicle uh i mean if you if you're a fast one might say you had

some wheels but i don't know how fast you semi-fast not super fast but uh it's gotta be better than semi-pro um you know i was walking i don't know 12 15 20 000 steps a day and you know i usually work most nights after class right um and god i don't know how many pairs of jeans i just wore through and they were stretchy jeans but oh wow um yeah it was working at menards was probably the most pairs of jeans i've ever gone through just because of how much walking I've done or did. I still go through. Because at my job, I'm up and down all the time, right? Because the safes are on the floor.

So if somebody wants to buy something, I have to crouch down and get into the safe to pull it out. And particularly during busy days, you're doing that 40, 50 times a day. And yeah, I go through. I only go to American apparel, American Eagle now. And they have like these ultra flex. I'm still going to run through them, but at least they fit and they,

they last longer than everything else. They're comfortable too. That's my favorite part. Yeah, they are. And like, if you can find like that, right,

like for me, it's 30, 30, 30 waist, 30 length. That's the golden child, but I have find like that, right. Like for me, it's 30, 30, 30 waist, 30 length. That's the golden child. But I have a 30, 32 right now and they still scrunch at the bottom and I hate it. But like, at least the waist doesn't feel like it's falling down all day. It's 30 is going to be long as shit on you.

Don't they? I'm like, I'm 30 is perfect. Yeah, that's exactly for me. That's what I wear too. It's crazy. Like, cause me a perfect pants are like 29. I must have shorter legs and a longer torso than That's what I wear, too. It's crazy. Like, because me, a perfect pants are like twenty nine. I must have shorter legs and a longer torso than or something. I don't know.

There's a little extra down there for me, but they fit good. Yeah. I also have a bigger belly, so my pants probably like ride lower to begin with. So if you're wearing your pants up higher a little bit, then it makes more sense. Right up to the nipples like a strong man in a 30s movie. Right up to the nipples. Belt and suspenders. Oh, that, when you had mentioned

work, Joey, my wife just got a new she, her, so she had a Galaxy 7 that finally died. And so she begrudgingly went and got a new phone this week. And she, I actually have her on Apple now. So her and I are both on Apple phone.

It took the last four years of me prodding her. Just please get an Apple phone next time. It's so annoying. I can't even send you a calendar invite. Don't make me send green texts. It's so mean. I can't text Joey and Keithith i'm an android enjoyer well i'm just i'm jealous because her flick so i i had i dropped the same amount of money she did

like right before the lift hard live easy with like you know what was the flagship apple phone at the time but now it's you know a year behind and my phone probably because like the new one it's like the the lighter it's it's the different metal right so it's however much lighter you don't you wouldn't think it's noticeable like my phone and my like if i have both phones in my hand her phone is like i swear to god it feels 20 lighter so i'm so pissed that i i'm locked i mean i guess i could trade this fucker in but like i bought the expensive insurance plan and shit and i'm sure that's not transferable so i have to eat all that and eat whatever i would get on a trade-in so i'd be out four or five hundred dollars just to get a lighter

phone so fuck that i'm gonna drive this bitch in the ground but it's just you got the geek squad yeah that's what was stupid you just get apple care because apple care is refundable yeah if it's like oh i do you know i did i did so the the geek squad thing was when i was trying to milk life out of my old phone. So I went and so I did go to the Apple store. Everything's at Apple. Oh, Apple is refundable. OK, I'll look into that.

It's a prorated refund. But yeah, don't make me work. I'm not doing my job. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. But it makes sense. Ask Grayson. Because Grayson, you're a developer, right? So it makes sense that you're leaning towards that Android.

I'm not a developer, right? So it makes sense that you're leaning towards that Android. I'm not a developer. Developer adjacent? Maybe. I don't code anything. I'm not an engineer. Oh, okay, yeah. You're IT. I made up the word developer when I meant IT. I'm just

going to have another beer. You created that word? Did you create it from scratch? Just came to him. Yeah, I find that a lot of people who work on that side either love Apple or absolutely hate it. And yeah, I mean... It's interesting.

I need something that works. And so I'm always going to go Apple. You know, since they switched to USB-C with this new generation, I've actually considered it. I'm actually the only person in my family that has an Android phone. Everyone else has had an iPhone for like probably eight years. So I've debated on switching for no reason other than I'm just curious. Like I don't have loyalty really. It's just all I've ever used. Yeah. So I may switch. Mine's, I think, three years old.

I have an S20. I rarely plug my phone in unless it's in the car. I use wireless charging for everything. Yeah. Actually, including right now, because I jumped to the 15 and it's USB-C. And of course, none of my USB-Cs are laying anywhere because they're only being used for my playstation or my bluetooth speaker in the gym so i was like wait a second i have like three wireless charges laying around so my phone is now permanently connected to a magnetic charger and do those do those chargers output enough uh power or is it semi semi slow uh 20 watt

i think is the maximum you can get from MagSafe charging. That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the maximum most phones will handle. Yeah. Right? So as long as you have the right setup, you got a USB-C block and all that shit, you can

get 20 watts, 25 watts. Okay. Yeah. Oh, Keith is looking for something else to talk about. No, no, no. You're good. There was something I saw earlier that I wanted to get back to the story. Oh, okay. oh keith is looking for something else to talk about no no no i know you're good i just there was something i saw earlier that i wanted to get back to the story oh okay so you uh you almost

wrecked a car once listening to the massnomics podcast when uh tanner had something to say about a uh a funny logo on a shirt possibly or a quote oh okay i think i know where she's going with this yeah um i don't remember the episode um but i think they were talking about i think i know where she's going with this yeah um i don't remember the episode um but i think they were talking about i don't know if they were talking about like what designs like they could put anything on a shirt and people would buy it maybe that's that's what she was fishing for that one and he's just he laughs and goes wieners and i don't i think we were driving home or something i don't know if we were heading back to Watertown or what but yeah that just had us both just absolutely crying

now you are as being a former gym member down there from what I've gathered of actually becoming friends with a handful of gym members down there that aren't necessarily crew but are crew adjacent like there's not a lot of guys there that consume the podcast like there's like like i like ross said i think he's ever listened to an episode other than the one that he was on and well i don't think you can listen to that one it's just like you know other than like episodes they've been on and stuff like there just doesn't seem to be a lot of uh well obviously they talk to tanner every day so they just uh i do you i have always been curious of like do you think there's a reason why people in the gym are into the podcast is it like listen to your buddies do a podcast kind of thing like

like i don't know like i don't know that i i wouldn't want so i guess sorry i asked a question and i'm going to talk over you sorry but like i would feel weird recommending this podcast did you ask a question yeah i'm trying i'm trying to fish of why don't listen to tam and tanner and tommy's podcast can you please speak on behalf of all of them if i well no i'm i'm i'm using us as a simile as a comparison of like i wouldn't recommend my friends to listen to my podcast. I don't yet. Yeah.

Like their podcast isn't as niche anymore. Like their podcast was super niche like seven years ago, but now it's just like interviewing people in the community would like 80% of the time. Like that's anyone could listen to that. So sorry to kind of, do you have any opinion on this Grayson? Yeah. It's kind of do you have any opinion on this, Grayson? Yeah, it's kind of interesting. Right. From my perspective, anyway, I think because like, you know, I kind of was I was around or, you know, tried to support them early on. Right. You know, by by an original shirt or whatever, like I liked what they were doing and they're good guys. And I definitely I have a backlog to get through. Right? Like I'm not, I'm not caught up.

Like I think, I think you guys might be caught up. Um, I've got a fair amount of episodes I need to get through, but I feel like I'm kind of in between where I trained there and I knew them, um, you know, like before massonomics,

but I was still interested in the content, but now that I don't live there, I feel like I want to keep up to date, you know? So I'm consuming the discord. I'm consuming the podcast. I try to watch up to date you know so i'm consuming the discord i'm consuming the podcast i try to watch their stories uh you know i've exclusive got massonomics gym on snapchat so occasionally you get a snapchat from you know from time to time so i think for me it's

a little bit of now that i'm not there i want to be as involved as possible or up to date maybe would be the the right phrase and i don't know if maybe maybe like you said keith since they're they're you know they're there they're seeing stereo gate happen in real time like maybe it's less interesting to them whereas all of all of us are like you know chomping at the bit like i i want to know i need the conclusion you know do you uh here's one. Do you think Larry the Legend has ever listened to any podcast of any genre once in his entire life? I would say I don't think he has.

No, I don't think Larry knows how to operate any podcast app on his phone. I don't think so. I love Larry, but I don't think so. Yeah, that seems fair. But I just found it curious. All the guys I met, there's seven, eight guys that I met that were solely lifters at Mastanomics that did the meet and stuff. I think some of them might even technically be supporting members, but aren't active in Discord at all. They just did it just to continue to support the guys, but just didn't active in discord at all they just like did it just to like kind of continue to support the guys but like just didn't

really get into our aspect of it and I guess it's just because they you know I mean the only thing I think it was just because they see them you know whether at the gym four or five times a week and ever and like they're just they're there already so they don't necessarily need to be overstimulated by it is all I can think of so I just right

but okay enough bashing on people that don't listen to the podcast. Anything else in there? They're not going to hear it. That's true. Yeah. That would be funny. So I was I was trying to get I was trying to get Ryan DeFay on the podcast, but I'm trying to I was trying to fish to see if you listen to the episodes yet.

He kind of like had basically said he hadn't really dove in yet. So, you know, potential future guests down the road. Maybe when he if he hears this, reach out to me and we'll get you on there, Brian. And anything not highlighted you want to talk about, Joey? Yeah, and I was saving it for the last thing. Let's have it. I'm good. I'm tapped out. There's one thing that I've always wanted to talk to people about, but I found that it might have been a little gatekeepy,

and that's never been my intention. And one of the questions I always want to ask people is, have you ever participated or won a Masonomics contest? I have won one. I know, Keith, i think you've won one or placed in one i think i got a i got a drink spotter or something but i don't even think it was an award via reddit or something okay so the only reason i never asked that is having won one i don't want to be like the like lording over at people but i'm gonna lord over a little bit you've never even participated in one grayson

that's right yeah i haven't that's insane why though like just why you're talking strictly like the like instagram or you know real life ones that like nobody else can do yeah but so is that like is that a reason why i i think for me um at least in the past like when i would um record my lifts in the gym it was usually in very empty gyms um like when i lifted at snap i would lift like mid-afternoon because i i would go there after my classes and the gym would be dead right uh and same thing at the gym in watertown that's literally what it's called that place is a huge uh super cool place by the way um and usually pretty empty right so i think for me part of it is like i i don't want to i don't ever want to be

that guy that's like doing a jefferson deadlift in the middle of the gym recording 700 people yeah um and and i i'm probably more a little on like the reserve side like i i just don't want to like yeah i don't want to be that guy that's probably the best way to say it like inconvenience people or or however it would be perceived um i think if i had a home gym or a basement or garage gym, I would be way more inclined to participate in them. Okay, but that's like one. You've never done a meme contest. You didn't do the garage reveal. I don't consider myself creative at all.

I just enjoy all the good memes that people put out. I was just wondering because I saw that as a stat and then I was just like, but half the fun is like winning these or joining these and, and being in them. So I'm just wondering. And I think now like that, I'm getting to know so many more crew better, right?

Like, like leading up to the lift hard, love easy. I, I got more involved in the discord and like, and like meeting a bunch of crew and talking to you guys that I think if you have some of that camaraderie, it makes it more fun.

And now that I think that I'm getting to know people better, that, that I'd be more, more inclined to love it, put it out. That's why we're here. Get you on here. Get everybody to know you,

get you, you know, a little more opened up. Um, ah, shit. I was going to say something there go ahead keith maybe my maybe my brain will bring it back so was was that a uh was was that a maybe or was that

because i mean i'm gonna go ahead and just say i'm challenging you as you know as a one of the hosts of the unpaid underrated podcast that whatever the next contest is i don't you got to do it like you know now that you just said like the whole thing Holding you back potentially was just not being part of You know the bigger group Now you're part of the bigger group man you're you're in The inner circle of the outer circle If you will That's a kind of a good analogy

So yeah but some Can we get a diagram for that Yeah well so the outer Spreadsheet So look at it like If the inner circle was literally Masonomics gym and then the outer spreadsheet so look at it like if the inner circle was literally massonomics gym and then the outer circle was crew because like we're you know so now you're in the inner circle of crew that you know now that you've like gotten balls deep in discord and did you know met like

how what was it like meeting like what the 30 plus of us that literally flew flew in and spent thousands of dollars hey abert and hang out in tanner's backyard what was that like what the 30 plus of us that literally flew flew in and spent thousands of dollars hey abert and hang out in tanner's backyard what was that like what was it like meeting me no no no not us fucking like the no no no i think i'm gonna answer for this no i'm just i just love poking at keith everyone when he asks really shit like that hey how really cool was it to meet me like was that like the coolest thing be honest be honest um fuckers no i feel like uh from time to time like there are things that the other podcast does that's just like i can't believe that they're where they are knowing where they started like hannah and i kind of talk about that from time to time so like knowing that there was joey and keith and scantz and you know even people driving like big gen uh you know eight nine hours from i whatever it was like i just couldn't get over how crazy that was

but like in a really cool way like what they've built like it was kind of just i mean the weekend was awesome obviously i think everyone could say that but uh knowing like where they started and where they where they're at now and they get so many people to come for this meet is just i i think about that a lot i can't really describe it yeah i can't put it into words properly we we talk about it like i said hannah and i from time to time but it's just like that's insane i think about it a lot and i'll be like driving and i'll just think to myself like so i've been to i've been into powerlifting meets i went to like this big deadlift competition that brought in people from all over the world um but like I've never seen anything like what the lift hard,

live easy was like all of these people who didn't know each other. We just like fucking got up and went to this unknown podunk city that we like would never have heard of. If it wasn't for this podcast, we all flew there, destroyed the economy for three days, offended the locals with our terrible t-shirts and stand and standing up at powerlifting meets yeah standing up at powerlifting me but like it was just the it was honestly just like friends that were like you know you see it

in movies we're like oh we all get together once a year. And we just, you know, like, that's what it was. And it was so fucking cool. And I cannot wait to do it again. I, yeah. I don't know. I'll touch on that real quick before we move on to another segment here. Sorry. The poll that I put up on Instagram the other week, basically, what do you consider Masonomics?

Essentially, to paraphrase it, was a community podcast and apparel company or a meme page. 80. I don't know the rate. It was at least, it was over 80% said community. So then I, and then I was like, I really,

that was a fair amount. It was like 67 people where I answered it, like a fair amount of people answered it. So I was that, that made me happy because like, it was kind of like, well, that's what I would,

I wanted people to answer that. But then like, there was a lot of people that still like, you know, you can tell like people that like, I kind of only recognize like's what i would i wanted people to answer that but then like there was a lot of people that still like you know you can tell like people that like i kind of only recognize like they still follow the podcast but like aren't super interactive on discord or something like a lot of them did pick like pod uh a podcast or you know the meme page or something just kind of like i don't know you take that with a grain of salt a lot of people just fucking answer the poll wrong just to fuck with me now sometimes i feel too but uh it was over the overwhelming majority of the people said community and like that's why i'm here like i don't

even fuck about i don't like memes or memes are a dime a dozen i'm sorry like everyone can fucking do a meme nowadays it's like if like and tanner says it all the time like if they tried to start what they were doing today they would have no fucking success like at all like i don't feel just because they've spent the last seven years like accruing us if you will that like now they can kind of do whatever and they've got us hooked they've got thousands of us hooked now and specifically 300 of us like by the balls and we'll follow them wherever. By the wallet. Yeah. One and the same. So now that you've been on this podcast and you're going to start

hopefully you get engaged and all that, be prepared to be tagged a lot in a lot of stuff. It's not a bad thing. It's just be prepared for notifications. That's good with me. I think that's fun every time i open my phone i have a new tag or share or notification i'm just like it's funny because

you know you that's why you get on social media you get on social media to get out there and see people and i think i've mentioned it before it's like for me I used to be really big, really community-based and blah, blah, blah. And then I shrunk that. And I don't have Facebook anymore. I don't have Twitter anymore. I don't have Snapchat anymore. I shrunk it. But that means my Instagram is blown up.

And it's like, on one hand, it's unnerving. You know, getting to the Lift Hard, Live Easy and people recognized me was unnerving. Being recognized at work. Just like somebody I work with being like, hey, for some reason you showed up on my Instagram. So I followed you. And like you immediately panic a second because you're just like, this is work. You're not supposed to. But then you really think like all I'm doing is lifting.

If you want to watch that, fucking great. this is work you're not supposed to but then you really think like all i'm doing is lifting if you want to watch that fucking great um so that's a really weird concept is like you kind of want it to happen but then it happens and you're just like a little like not totally comfortable but it's kind of what i wanted to do so be prepared you're gonna get tagged a lot in the next little while that's good with me absolutely do you want to talk about some smelling salts there, Joey? no, but yeah, absolutely you know, just a reminder

to everybody to use our code unpaid at ObsidianAmonia or Hypedust.com if you are into smelling salts, they are probably one of the top tier I love their smells, I love their scents, travis is an amazing guy his marketing is fantastic so use code unpaid you know save yourself 15 and uh you know

helps out the podcast a little bit yeah i think i need to i might need to buy another so like i've not done smelling salts up until like the last couple months and i've you know now it's like i'm trying not to get addicted by any means but uh this week i whatever i hit like a heavy bench uh heavy feet up bench like fucking amrap or some shit and uh definitely did my top my my top two sets i did a little shot of it and like it's it's hard because it's like i don't want to get too close because sometimes it'll really waft in but then other times if i get i get to that same closeness that i i like i said it's almost like non-existent. So it's like,

so many stories. Can you add more water to it? Yes. Yes. Okay. So, so you can refresh it a bit with a little water, a little shake in it,

heat it up. All right. I think I, I think I need to do a little, I think I need to do, um, one of my favorite videos, speaking of getting shared and tagged and shit,

um, is, uh, I got a bottle of nose bleach so some of the salts you're going to get have an activator and some are some don't so the nose bleach does not okay that is the dim mac i think the new one also might not so sometimes when you get them the bottle is swelled up a bit well i there's a video of me opening a bottle of nose bleach and you visibly visibly auditorily audibly audibly here pop and like i'm holding it away because i'm not stupid

like it's nose bleach and it pops and i go ah like instantly like, instantly. Because, like, it just whopped. My whole basement fucking reeked of it. It was amazing. But then there's other ones where, like, I'm like, eh, eh, is it, is it? And then it goes directly like a spike into your eyeball. And it goes behind your eye and makes you cry. I got one of my, um, i have so many stealth stories and i think

it's like i think scantz is the same thing and uh so scott like i will bring them to work meetings and i will place them on the table in front of me and i'll just be like if i see you starting to fade i'm throwing this at you and you gotta do it and everybody does like almost nobody has like scared away or shied away or anything like that but yeah just watching people like what is ah it's uh it's cappy that smells like whiskey like what like yeah that gives me a good idea i gotta try that um joey that that made me think of something you were talking about activators for smelling salts. So everyone at the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic got a bottle of smelling salts, right?

Yes, I actually haven't opened mine yet. Don't know what I have. Don't know what I've ever opened. I've got mine. And I had some friends and coworkers from Crew Falls actually make the trip up to come and hang out and everything. They were just watching. they came to and none of them had tried smelling salts so i wanted them to try it so i cracked my bottle of smelling salts for them and i'm warning them like okay you know you've never done this before don't just slam your face in there right and so you know

they're they're uh kind of you know nothing's happening, being cautious and nothing's happening. And we all, they all probably rotated the bottle, I don't know, 10 times and nothing happened. And I don't know if I'm just dumb or cause I, you know, I was smelling other bottles of the smelling salts when I was doing my attempts and, you know, it was pretty strong. And then I opened my bottle and I'm like did I get a dud I just I couldn't there was I wasn't getting anything from it the activator fell off the cap that must have been what it was is it in the bottle let's see I just had to add water to mine and then but I guess it was add to the cap and then flip it over so when you say activator um so there's okay there's three kinds there's the kind of the cotton ball that's like your nose bleach and your dim mac there's the kind that has an activator powder in it that is a little

baggie okay and you open the baggie pour it in. And others, you put a little drop of water in. And that activates it. So it'll say it on the bottle. Okay. So maybe the activator fell out or something. I just didn't notice it. If there's a baggie activator, he normally jams them into the lid so that when you open it, it comes off with the lid.

But if not, it's a water one. Yeah. Did you add water to that one yeah I could have did you not did you add water to that one I hadn't tried no then I would have I have like no experience with smelling salts except the bottle that you have and I opened it up took the unpeeled the seal added the

cap full of water and it's good to go if there's a seal it needs water well that that shows my smelling salts ability. Do you have water? Do you want to do this on camera for the first time? Even if you have to go get it, we can pause it

for like 30 seconds to watch you do the first shot of that. Yeah, I can go run and get some. I should preface, I've tried smelling salts. Okay. I have tried them well good now you know our code and you can try some more if you won't activate them now we do need an update by the time this episode hits so we can

post to the instagram if you uh if all it took was water or not i used to do them like all the time to just try and hype myself up and now i actually don't do them very often at all like even today's top rp 10 to reps i didn't touch any ammonia um one of my guys at work got addicted to it he was doing it all he took it to a wedding and he was like i'm gonna be out partying all night and then like two days later he was like i was having heart palpitations i need to stop and i was like you need to fucking stop like like stop now you psycho because i used to have the headshot and i carried in my fanny pack because uh when i drive home sometimes after a really long shift it's a 30 35 minute drive but it's all just highway and it's so easy to drift off that i started putting ammonia in my fanny pack

just in case because like i have fallen asleep driving home twice i don't never want to do it again so i just like so yeah let him try it the one time and like two seconds later he's got my code open and he's ordering some and like but yeah he got addicted don't do that don't get addicted to that shit well well now you guys got me wanting to try it, so I think I've got to activate it. Do it. Give it a shot. I need to go get some water, though. Okay, we're just going to do a quick... Go ahead. We're going to do a quick clap.

Yeah. Piss break. Nate, pause. Piss break! break nate pause piss break uh yeah i want to preface this before you do this as i did a shot either last week or the week before while recording this podcast, and I was up till 1 a.m. I could not get to sleep. Well, let's look at the clock. Bedtime is less than two hours, so I would say that's good odds. You'll be doing okay. So what you've done is you've added some water and you're shaking it, and it's getting hot in your hands, right?

It is very much getting warm. Yep. That's what it's supposed to do so somebody didn't add water in july apparently yeah you should just read you know reading yeah it's been 100 specifically says no no i wouldn't have known that chris chris had to show me how to do it but when i did kind of like look at it again, I was like, Oh, it does say right here. Yeah. I was so confused. I genuinely thought I got a dud bottle readings for nerds. I learned today.

There was three different styles. So I'll have to keep that in mind. If, and when I get new pneumonia. And I don't even think Travis like listens to the podcast. So like, he's not even going to hear me doing these teach outs of pneumonia. We can,

we get a good clip. We can, we get a good clip. We can, we can make it real or something, but we need someone to volunteer to help do that. Cause I ain't got time for that shit. Anybody got time for that? No. All right,

well, let's give it a, give it a taste. Let's go big Grayson. Now, before you do that, no, go ahead,

go, go, go. Might as well. You got it open now. Oh, right. They got it.

That wasn in the eyes big grace and take it works shot of uh ammonia from the lift hard to be easy i love it yeah right it goes right up the nose and in behind the eyes and then it just to the other host that is not a dud bottle there's been times too where like i hand it to somebody and i'm just like yeah this is like the weakest one i have so like yeah and then they'll die like they'll their eyes will go red and they'll cry and i'm just like i was about to throw that bottle out like it's okay that just reminded me it's funny you say that uh so, so that this was probably, I don't know, three years ago now we had taken a, we were in Aberdeen for something. I don't remember what it was for, but obviously I got a, got a lift in at massonomics gym. And, uh, I had tried Yuji Mufu's hit my bench attempt, like literal tears.

And that's never happened to me before. I mean, like I said, I'm not, I'm not using smelling salts a lot, but just tears. And I'm like, wow, that, that was strong. Super strong. His stuff is fucking insane. And like, so the one meet I did, um, the last meet I did, I was going through and I was like, I went through like three bottles that were just dead. And then like, and they're all obsidian, but they were just dead. They were just there for so I don't know.

Yeah. And then somebody handed me his. And I was like, all right, sure. And I was like, what? And then even I was like, that's almost too strong for me. And I love nose bleach. Like, yeah, it was borderline. I definitely almost way too much.

Yeah. It was good. Okay. That's our ad read. Yeah, no, I don't. Code unpaid and add water. Just code unpaid and follow the instructions. Yeah, yeah, true. 100%.

Stay in school, kids. I think we got a game we should play. Yeah, alright. You want to do unpaid and underrated? That is our game. You familiar with the game there, Mr. Grayson? Unpaid being overrated and underrated being underrated. Use your druthers you know

all that fun stuff so i will dive in for ah whole screen just moved yeah it was me i'm adding things son of a gun all right well i'm gonna jump in here so i'll just go from the top uh so unpaid or underrated mr gray Grayson, Silver Star Car Washes. So I'm going to use my druthers here for sure. I think the consensus is, in general, underrated for me personally. Very much unpaid. For those that don't know,

it doesn't really matter, but it adds context to the story um i had gotten a new vehicle earlier this year uh and replaced my first car that i drove for like 12 years and uh you know i wanted to take care of it keep it looking nice and i ran it through some automatic car washes and it's a black car and i noticed that there was and hannah laughs at me she's like i can't even see them tons of small swirls and scratches on the new paint and i'm like god damn it and she's just laughing at me like she can't even see them but like so very much uh unpaid for me whenever i use them again touchless only or i'll wash my own car uh i have a story similar to yours so i there's a car washed by me that you buy a subscription to you pay every month and you can go once a day anytime you need to and because i don't like if i can't see out my

windshield and i hadn't realized that my windshield wipers were shit. I was just like getting my car washed all the time. Well, the one day I go through the car wash and keep in mind, I've been going here for two years at this point, my fucking back windshield wiper falls off. We're driving and I go to use it to wipe. And then suddenly it just flies off and i'm like what and then the next time we go through it rips my antenna off and my antenna is a thousand

dollars to fix minimum wow because it's a serious xm antenna and so like i had to go in there and be like i need to cancel my subscription because again no problem he starts talking to me it was uh you know so just a reason why and then i was like irreparable damage man like i'm not mad about it because it's not like you were in there busting up my car but yeah those are those automatic car washes and it just happened to coincide with us installing a hose right outside so i can do it myself but like yeah stay away from automatic car washes. Touchless only or do it yourself. And get good windshield wipers.

That makes sense. That's all sound advice. Alright, number two for me, I am going to ask... I saw that one, Grayson. That stuff's still hitting you, isn't it? I feel like we just started. I'm good for two more hours. If you really are ready to dive right in.

As one would say. All right. So unpaid or underrated Marlins truck stop restaurants. I'm going to have to say. I don't mind the food, but there's nothing special about it. I'm going to have to go with hot paid, I think. They just...

Is that a popular thing out where you guys are at? It's very much... I don't know if it's a Midwestern thing. Maybe it is. Yeah, there's's there's for sure one in in um abern i don't know if there's any yeah unpaid yeah this might i think this might have been one that from someone that maybe just knew where you were from and just kind of threw it out there so what's what what is it like like i think we stopped we stopped at several truck stops i am i am for a guy who is my size and stature i'm very comfortable at truck stops

for some we've discovered on our last trip to the midwest uh and there was one that had like a gym and a showers and a gaming room and like a lounge and then there was another like there was the other smaller ones that had the weird shit, like the swords and wolf shirts. We talked about truck stocks. Or is Marlin's different? Is it like a diner?

At least the one in western northeast South Dakota is very much a diner. I would say it's probably middle of the road. It's probably like half diner and then half convenience I would say it's probably middle of the road, right? It's probably like half diner and then half, uh, convenience store.

I don't even know if that one has, I assume it has showers. I haven't checked. Uh, yeah, it doesn't do anything special. I think the waterton truck stop that's where Hannah and I like to stop when we make our road trips. That one's super nice.

Like they've got claw games and stuff. Like you said, like it's very much a big yeah it's a i think that's the one we might have stopped in because it could have been it's huge like the one i stopped in no actually that one was closer to minnesota but i did stop in one in aberdeen not aberdeen but like so we're coming from the east obviously and we stopped at a truck stop and that is where like it was just like just uncomfortable amount of political stuff swords and like wacky shit but then they were also selling my favorite energy drink for a dollar a can and then i was like i might clear you out like that might have been did you did you drive in or over through minnesota then yeah okay so

i'm guessing you probably either went through the watertown truck stop or the summit truck stop and both of them i think this one was right out like right at the edge of minnesota yeah they're both it might have been summit then which that's a pretty big that's a new truck stop too like yeah it's a it's a big deal in these small towns wild get these get these big gas stations and truck stops like if this was a mad max i expected an octagon all right grayson uh speaking of Minnesota, let's go with unpaid or underrated Minnesota Vikings. Oh, God. In my heart, I want to say they're underrated, but they're very much unpaid, especially if you live on the side of the state there are so many vikings fans and anyone

that's not a vikings fans probably just thinks they are insufferable to be around because they're they're always mediocre and they get your hopes up just enough to make you think that they might be worth something and then they're just garbage and it never fails so unpaid that's that's everybody's team but it's especially toronto so their their heyday with moss call pepper and uh carter and all those guys that would have been you were probably been too young to really be a part of that or follow that because that was that was i was in middle school or elementary school and that was a thing probably maybe middle school yeah i was born in 95 so i caught you know okay yeah you're you were like fucking three when moss was on the league yeah my memories were like brad

johnson you know i remember like moeldy moore michael bennett like those guys which was like the tail end slash really not you know carter was kind of done by the late 90s, early 2000s. Yeah. Alright, well, I'll hand the baton to Mr. Joey and he'll bring us home on these last three. Cool. I added two and one was there before. I don't know why I announce that every

week. People want to know. People want to know what last minute adjustments did I make to drive keith insane not good it's just funny i always feel like you you you pick up steam towards the end of the podcast because you're three sheets to the wind and i'm like i'm tired are we done yet so it's funny because i'm the same way at work after a long shift so like i'll come in like ready to go like let's do this let's get to work and then about

halfway through the shift i'm exhausted i hate this i want to go home i'm leaving i don't care but then like like let's say it's a 12-hour shift the last two hours i'm at my most excited because like i'm probably delirious at that rate. Um, jacked on caffeine and probably smelling salts. And, but I know I go home soon. I'm so happy when I get to go home soon and I'm exhausted. Um, so yeah,

I pick up steam towards the end there because like, I've also like, I've been talking to somebody for the past little while and it's exciting. Um, so unpaid or underrated metalcore i always get that question they always leave that one for me yeah i don't know what the fuck that that's different from the one we had last week right well death core was the one we had last week yeah death core is the brie brie brie and metalcore is the black yeah unless it says country

or like southern iraq i'm probably not going to touch it yeah that's i think for me that's that's underrated uh i think it's fantastic um another thing hannah uh gives me shit for we have opposite tastes in music um metalcore and that kind of genre subgenre is pretty much all i listen to regardless of what i'm doing so who's your favorite who's your favorite at the moment like obviously if it's your favorite genre you're going to cycle favorites all the time um you know there so i can't think of the song names right now but i can get you the band here in two seconds um is it electric cowboy because it should be well and so i'm not super good with subgenres so maybe this doesn't qualify uh you can tell me joey it's um shoot where is it uh if i were you that's like heavy what i'm into right now oh i've never even heard of that that's fun

they've got some songs that are pretty heavy so i'm very much underrated for me like that's my hype music that's my i'm driving to work at 7 30 in the morning music or home doesn't really matter underrated um have you heard electric call boy this would be like the 15th time i've gone on about them in however many episodes we've had i haven't okay you might want to if you're a metal core fan take some notes electric call Yeah, they're called Eskimo Callboy in the rest of the world, but in North America that shit gets you cancelled, so they're Electric Callboy.

And, yeah, it's a metalcore band. If you go back and listen to their older stuff, a really shitty metalcore band, who suddenly realized that they'd have more fun being funny. And, yeah, definitely give them, they add some techno into it, they add some dubstep, they have elements of deathcore and metalcore.

It's out there. That's interesting, because I definitely went through an EDM phase for sure. I went to EDC in Las Vegas, for anyone not familiar, that's like the biggest festival in north america so i don't really listen to it anymore but that sounds like that sounds pretty interesting it's a good listen to that i used to listen to it a lot it's one of those things where like you'd go well why don't more people like the prodigy did it a little bit right remember the prodigy fire starter uh smack my bitch no oh geez okay so they did a little bit of like a hardcore crossover with edm um but these guys for some

reason like you would think when somebody goes explains that to you where they're like well they're kind of dance but then they also have elements of metalcore and deathcore. You'd go like, those don't match. When Electric Cowboy does it, they fucking do. So you might enjoy that one. Cool, yeah. I'm intrigued. I'm going to look them up.

Yeah, that one and the one I mentioned last week, Jaluka, they do the same thing. They're a Japanese metalcore band. Everybody's been asking me in the Discord to to repeat it so it's jeluka and if if you look up black or blvck that's when you'll get the most black yeah yeah all right i'll give you a second to take your notes. Unpaid or underrated sushi? My one experience with it was not good. Did you get sick? No, I did not get sick. I just looked like an idiot.

I'm going to say unpaid, and I'll tell you why. We were at one of those open grills where they make their make your food in front of you and everything i can't even habachi oh yeah like a habachi yeah and we're with uh hannah's family and i wanted to try sushi and i can't remember if i got you know actual raw fish or not but you know it was rolled up and everything and and i hadn't just ever tried it before and i got you know it's served with wasabi right oh yeah oh here we go so i'm like holy shit guacamole probably half of it like i had it like on my tongue when Hannah and her mom were like don't it was too late and don't it was way too late and I don't even know

if it was real wasabi but it doesn't matter because that shit was hot and incredibly uncomfortable very much unpaid wasabi does the same thing ammonia does it goes right up your nose like it it was bad I gotta I have to defend sushi you can't judge

overall sushi based on your poor decision to house guacamole slash guacamole on my raw fish i'm so fucking excited that's like i would like i i hate hot stuff but i might eat wasabi over fucking guacamole and sushi because that'd be a weird ass. I can't even imagine. Oh, God. I'm dying here because I'm just thinking of the thought process of raw fish. Oh, sweet. Guacamole.

That's exactly. There's nothing else going on in my brain except this. Good. That's awesome. And I love green. So I just. It's fantastic. That made me so happy to hear yeah that was i wish i'd done that one last that is a story or real oh well the reason i asked is because of the weeb stuff that i was just like

how far into this is he yeah all right i very much love fish too so uh give it another try and just yeah yeah a few more questions i wouldn't eat the guacamole quick follow-up do you eat a lot of guacamole with regular fish like is that a thing i was like uh no i'm just i don't know i don't know where that's and he's like he's like he's getting his friday fish and chips and he's just like also don't forget the guac yeah that's that's never happened and i grew up eating a lot of fish with with all the fishing i did with my dad so i don't know where that came from i love that that's my favorite thing so far yeah absolutely uh yeah i'm not kind of upset i don't think this one is going to be as fun um but I wanted to get your take on it.

Unpaid or underrated Brock Lesnar. South Dakota boy, I think. Well, you did some wrestling. He was an NCAA champion. I was not an NCAA champion. I wrestled for one year in middle school. And then

I think he's underrated because I think it's super cool that he's from Webster. I was a shit wrestler though. And now he's Canadian. Is he? Yeah, he's a dual citizen. He bought a ranch out west. Fuck this, I'm tired of people.

He just bought a place as far away from humans as he could get all right bonus question unpaid underrated spongebob oh absolutely underrated 100 it is a great show that's that i grew up watching spongebob we still hannah and i quote it all the time our friends quote it honestly i think it's funnier the older i've gotten like i think there's so much hidden humor in it and yeah definitely underrated with my two-year-old running around just learning gibberish i often doodle bob at her and i'll just say hi like i'll just that's good my wife knows it my wife knows doodle bob better than i do but i do that tour all the time or in university. We would call stepping on a beach. Oh yeah.

But that was our code for let's go get hammered. You guys want to go step on a beach tonight? Yeah. Step on the beach. And yeah. So, all right. I agree.

Well, I think you passed on paid and underrated, especially that sushi story. I should have saved that one for last. But you never, like, I never know where this shit's going to go. Yeah. I just made the Japanese connection. And I was like, I wonder if, like, I'll get anything out of him based on the weave conversation.

And no, we got gold. Did that actually, so, like, did that traumatize you for a minute when you were like the next time you actually saw guacamole like at a real mexican restaurant or like any like were you like fuck that i'm not i'm not getting tricked again no because he didn't order fish yeah uh no i i like guacamole enough i actually just had it in my burrito today actually uh delicious love guacamole i do homemade guacamole all the time yeah no i think it was just that you know that first five or ten shit and interestingly i add cayenne to my guacamole when i make it so my guacamole is already spicy i am not a hot foods guy at all so that made that even worse

like oh my god yeah i can imagine oh i'm sorry jalapenos are like very hot for me like very very hot and it ruins my taste for the food i i brush my teeth with wasabi like it's delicious for me so yes i can see i can imagine just like sneaking that up on you you poor poor guy that's fine all right you got anything you want to ask us there Mr. Grayson for one of our closing segments yeah I've got a few questions here hearkening back to

Dr. Big Jake's episode you guys had asked him you know he's a doctor and all. Allegedly. Allegedly. Supposedly.

You guys had mentioned, you know, being he's a doctor. He kind of went through a story of what the profession he's in. He gets asked things, you know, diagnose me, fix me,

whatever off the clock. I want to know based on your guys's day jobs or maybe a special skill you guys have or uh something you're good at that's maybe not your day job do you have like one specific story that's super funny or totally off the wall involving someone asking you about that i don't have anything like necessarily specific but i can think of thought my head but like i get asked about like clearly everyone knows i'm a home gym guy and i get regularly people that like are trying to get into home gym like like people that like like people that are already into the home gym scene like they can do their own research and shit but like people uh like just yeah uh you know someone i knew from high school the other day that like just randomly follows me she

was like hey this this is my home gym she sent me like a fucking like a two-minute video of like walking me through it i was like i really want to i'm thinking about moving this over here and moving that there like what do you think jesus christ like that's a lot to i just like i gave a couple paragraphs back kind of just like a general answer so i guess it does kind of correspond with what you're asking. But yeah, for me, it's like it's home gym stuff usually. Or I get a lot of vintage weight stuff. And I'm not even like I'm in that world, but I'm like so like low tier into it that I ended up like usually referring them to other people half the time.

But nothing. I don't have any like gut busting funny stories on that. I just I do get asked a lot of home gym stuff regularly which i'm cool with i i could talk home gym tips all day i just noticed that the shadow behind you grayson looks like a dick oh it did it does Yeah, that's the one. There's just some dude, you know, with his dick out. Oh. Oh, I'm waking my kids up. I was wondering, I was like, either Joey's got something really good right now.

I just noticed it, and I was fucking dying waiting for my turn to point it out. Alright, so yeah. I mean, it's why I don't talk about my work. It's 100% why I don't. And it's because I work in cell phones, primarily in sales. And as soon as somebody finds that out, they just want to fucking grill you. they just want to fucking grill you. And they'll start like,

why are prices so high? Why? How come my phone battery? That's the big one. How come my phone battery die? And like, honestly, just sometimes like on the clock or off the clock, I just look at him and go,

I don't know. Did you Google it? And they'll be like, Oh, think of that. I was like, no, you traveled all the way to a storefront to ask a stranger and all i'm gonna do is google it like familiar with the let me google

that for you website i have used that passive aggressively for years i think i've posted it in the discord yeah that's good um but like genuinely like i came down to the one day i was at um my mom used to work in a bar and so they had the best chicken wings so we'd go there for chicken wings and i'm just sitting there one day and this guy just turned to me and he's like i'm thinking of buying a new phone what are the good deals out there and my mom's husband at the time he's still her husband so he he literally turns to the guy and goes first drinks on you and i was like i was like what and he goes you're not on the clock he knows that if he wants your time he's paying for it and i was like you can do that and from then on that was always it like no i don't you know and where i work you um you need a membership to come and talk to me so if people message me on the internet or anything

and they ask me hey what what do you know about this the first thing i ask is are you a member and if they say no i go then i'm no help to you because we have our own pricing we have our own costs we have our own systems go figure it out where you're gonna buy it don't make me do the whole pitch for you to take it to somebody else and give them the sale and yeah so that's the most i've talked about work on this podcast it only took us 52 episodes um but like it's all and genuinely it's just like if you're just sitting there and like nobody's talking to you because it's not like you're always selling sometimes there will be times where you're not talking to somebody and they'll like honestly they'll just walk up and they'll just jam their phone in your face and go how

come my battery dies and like you just want to go i don't fucking know that like nobody knows that but you like you hand their phone back to them and go because you spent five hours on the phone since you unplugged it how do you know that it just looked at your battery health which you could have done but you decided to burden a stranger with that question so yeah no i don't have anything funny i just have fucking my job all right well i've got i've got more of a hobby question if i'm allowed another question you can ask yeah we got tons of time. So I don't relate to this. I'm always curious. People's opinions on this.

So. This is kind of a two parter, actually. First part. So big or small. What is the one piece of gym equipment that you guys have that you could not live without? If you had to get rid of everything but one thing, you could keep one thing, what would you keep? Okay, do

barbell plus plates count as one? Yeah, we'll count that. That's it. If I couldn't deadlift, I would probably stop. Even the rack, I would figure out a way to bench. I would figure out a way to bench i would figure out a way to squat i've done it before it would be the barbell because what would be the point of having

a rack without the barbell yep i'm gonna take that more of a what's my favorite thing in my gym basically i'm gonna go my bench press my orange standalone dedicated competition bench press i wish it was uh i wish it had i wish it was either honestly i wish it was either a combo rack or a competition bench that had combo rack arms so that i could like adjust up and down for the j cups because now i'm getting into where i have a lot more people over it's like got a fucking four foot eleven girl benching like fucking wide competition and then like a six foot six dude to want to bench together i'm like well that's not possible on this bench so like that's one thing i need to add to a gym is a different bench or a combo rack but currently for if it was just me like i love benching on my

bench i love the pad on it because it's kind of super i like a slick pad personally i don't like a really grippy pad because when i have a grippy pad on and i go to like fucking like get set up and like kind of you know dig in a little bit, my shirt starts choking the shit out of me. Whereas on a slightly... It's not slick slick. It's just not grippy. I wouldn't trade my bench for anything

unless it was like a... Basically, I'd have to spend $5,000 plus to buy something better than what I have. I'm probably not going to do that. My bench is my one key piece. It's funny you say that because I had a slippy bench. I had a bodybuilder bench, right?

With adjustable up and down everywhere, fucking attachment. And I hated it. So I went and bought a fat pad with grip and it's the best. Like, it's so funny how you and I are the opposite on that one. I hate benching. I use it for incline only now, the bodybuilder bench, because it's just a little easier.

It almost turns into military press at that point. But yeah, I have zero patience for slippy benches with holes in them. And just wear stringers. You just need to come to the Arnold, go to that table where the guy just throws a bag of stringers out and just buy a bunch of stringers, your size. So I, I have basically a grippy pad that if people are like that and they're like, Oh,

I can't use this bench. It's too grippy. I just throw this fucking mat like right where their shoulder going. Like now you can, you're good to go. Yeah. Ultimately, like I would have never known the difference if I hadn't driven to the

bells of steel warehouse and tried a bunch of their benches. And then was just like, oh my, I have a fat pad. I bought not their biggest, but not their smallest. And it's very comfortable. The inverse of that. Within reason, you could have your pick. What's the one piece of equipment you don't have that you wish you did have? Maybe your eyeing.

Log. I think somebody asked me this recently. Yeah, log. That's interesting, Joey, because that's probably the least favorite implement i've ever used because i am absolutely terrible at it um scans showed me how to use it at the massonomics gym um i am very strong man adjacent there are aspects of strong man i want to get into and log is probably the one that i want to get better at. I might have to schedule a training session

around the Lift Hard, Live Easy, maybe. Because I am awful at it. Everybody is. So Scott is messaging me, asking me to sign up for that, for the strongman there. Murph has mentioned I should probably sign up for the strongman there. I've never done a strongman, but I'm so interested in it. And just the one day, I think, yeah, Jack Nate asked me about it on this podcast.

I was like, no, I am not. He was like, so you're in a strongman. I was like, no. And now everybody's just like, well, why not? It's because I'm weak. That's why I'm not doing it so i actually haven't decided if i'm signing up for powerlifting or strongman at the lift i'd live easy i i think i have a month to figure that out but you are going to sign up for i will be there even if i don't okay that is that is the one trip i am making that's going to cost too much money. The Arnold, we're cutting costs, we're doing everything

we can. That is the one where I'm like, I need to bust my ass in November, December so I can pay for July. It's probably too big to fit in my gym. My dick. Would be the hammers. Yeah, my... The hammers.

The inners. Yeah, the inners. The hammers. Yeah, wieners. The hammer strength. The plate loader hammer strength ISO row machine for doing back work. If I could get one that was 30% smaller and fit exactly where my reverse hyper was, I'd get rid of my reverse hyper and put that there. But it's double the size of a reverse hyper,

so I'd be out of space. But the most realistic next piece i'll probably buy is upgrading my titan trap bar to the rogue trap bar solely because like the neural is consistent on both handles whereas my titan trap bar the high and low like one's kind of grippy and the other is like almost smooth i'm like well it's fucking stupid but that's like a 500 upgrade for a bar that i got for free so it's like not in a hurry but i've literally i've added like thousands of dollars for the bars to the gym this year i was only like i've done so much like i've got 21 barbells so it's hard to find new bars i want to add well i wanted to throw in one one question like that gym question because i uh obviously i train in a commercial gym and i like to live vicariously through all the all the gym owners in the discord

to to see what they have and i like to hear their opinions on their equipment don't don't live vicariously through me i work out in the day it's like a smelly basement it smells of mildew and ammonia i i forget there's people that don't have home gyms sometimes like because i'm so immersed like i'm as deep as i'm into massonomics i'm just as deep in like the home gym community like i travel to go do shit with the home gym community as well um so like i'm just like 80 of the people i know have home gyms kind of so it's just i always forget sometimes it's like oh yeah he he lives in apartment, doesn't have a basement or a garage. So that makes sense.

I guess they're going to have a home gym. Yeah. My only experience with a home gym is in Watertown during COVID. My uncle had welded me an entire squat rack and he modeled it after one of Rogue squat racks. And then I had borrowed a barbell and plates. So that's my experience. Why haven't you made the jaunt over to Paul Floss's or Little Sweetie's gym yet? Is it because of the east side, west side of the river there?

You guys are, you know, the battle of the hospitals. Actually, I think both of them would really appreciate it. Nate, like even Jack Nate was like, why don't people come to my gym? No, no. Yeah. I just don't think we've, I don't know that we've talked about it. Yeah, I'll have to reach out to him. Oh, no. I just don't think we've... I don't know that we've talked about it. Yeah, I'll have to reach out to him. Oh, yeah. Make that happen.

You're going to call it on the... Maybe all of us meet at Perfect Little Sweeties. You'll get a call on the podcast and everything. You got anything else for us to close it out? I got maybe something a little more silly. If you got a couple, feel free.

I got maybe something a little more silly. If you got a couple, feel free. It's up to you. I got one silly. I got it more so from Instagram, but I'm curious. Unpaid or underrated kilts? Underrated. Pants are leg prisons the man wants you to wear pants Keith I would go on page

because I'll never why it's not that I'm like oh you know only women wear dreadlocks I don't think I would fit I know my body type and I would just I would not look good in a kilt I don't feel I'd have to I know no thanks I wouldn't I wouldn't it would I don't feel. I'd have to. No thanks. It would not be flattering because you wear it kind of high, don't you?

Yeah, you wear it like traditionally you wear it just over your belly button. I guess that would maybe hide my... So it would actually fit better than pants. I can see that I guess. So in the old days I used to not wear underwear because that's a true scotsman

but then i had kids and you can't take your kids to the park in a kilt and no underwear you are you are gonna end up on a registry so i started and started wearing underwear and with them i have three kilts actually i have one with my family tartan, I have one from the Irish military, and then I have what's called a utility kilt, which is just straight-up black, has pockets and belt loops and everything like that. That's not a traditional kilt.

That's just for when I want to wear a kilt in the world. And I will probably end up with one more before I die. There's a couple guys at my work that... A kilt in the world and i will probably end up with one more before i die there's a couple guys at my work that a kilt friday that's incredible that was yeah highly encourage it because once you get that freedom and it takes some getting used to the the you know the tuck under that you gotta do to sit down um like you see women doing it so you've got to do it uh crossing your legs is interesting because it's like sometimes um i'm used to sitting on my legs so when i sit down in a chair i'll put my leg up first and sit on my leg and then wiggle my leg out yeah you can't do that in a kilt because you're just flashing everybody um but absolutely the freedom that Killed Spring U is.

Freedom! Like we're nothing at all. Nothing at all. I did post the banana bread at work dude. Yeah, I saw that. I'll have to dive into it. Jake the Snake, who we've mentioned tonight already, says

all-time favorite internet video. So it sounds like you do have to get on that because that's your connection there. And speaking of Big Jake the Snake, he is, I mean, look at the schedule. Yes, he is next week's guest. So this comes out on Tuesday. We'll be recording with him on Thursday. So if you hadn't submitted any answer, any questions for Jake by the time you hear this, get immediately on Instagram and DM us if you have anything for Big Jake. Yep, we'll ask him.

Unpaid or underrated. Banana work at bread, dude. Banana bread at work, dude. And that's a personal call out to you, Grayson. You said you're not super interactive on Instagram. If you do not respond to the poll asking Grayson questions, you will be judged severely. Noted. Because he's getting called out here.

Yeah, he's like, we're like, come on our podcast. And then you're like, we're going to judge you. If you don't. I'm going to gatekeep you hard. It puts the motion on the skin. Just keep the sand out of that motion. Right, yeah. Good callback. I try. Is that what you

got for us? Yeah, that's about it. And then my last question is, Keith, so Matt wanted to know why we bumped him this week. Well, it's because he's getting a little fucking lippy in the Discord, demanding to be on and

just like pretending like we're the ones fucking avoiding him like not answering the phone when we call him or text him there might we might have to have like a like a intervention like we need like a middleman because i think he's he's you know he's got some bitterness towards us and i don't understand why. If anything, we should be bitter towards him. I don't know. If the fans really want to hear him on here, you got to start letting us know. We'll try harder, but I don't know how much harder.

I don't know how much more effort we can put into this ongoing weekly thing. And Grayson, you know who Matt is, right? Yep. Big Matt? Yep. Oh, he's famous. Well well he does pop up in my feed a lot like surprisingly and i think i even mentioned it on the in discord the other day but so much shit gets missed on there like every time i see something and i'm like oh matt would appreciate

that like nine times out of ten it was something that he yeah it was either something he posted or something that he shared god damn it that is literally your material i enjoyed that conversation but every every every now and then i get every now and then i get him one or like at least once or twice a week i can send him something funny but uh you know that's like i i have at least i you know there's a handful of people i'd like this person will think this is funny but this person will think that's offensive so i have to like juggle who I send what to. I just don't talk to anybody. It fucking works flawlessly.

Just save it all for our two and a half hour podcast every week. Just make sure you offend everybody on our two and a half hour podcast and just don't post anything on Instagram. I'd big, big nascent share us our numbers the other day. I would work. We're I think we were what Two averaging-ish 200 downloads a week I think That's not bad for literally being a niche podcast About a niche podcast

And we're pulling in You know two thirds of the discord 66% of the discord yeah like that's not bad So I'm happy with that Hey good work crew we did it You did it Well I'm okay to round out so i'm happy with that hey good work crew we did it you did it you guys all of you did it uh well

i'm okay to round out yeah we're on downtown yeah so um we're gonna dive right in guys i'm joey like i said if you're listening to this you're probably already following me if you're not i'm on instagram guys where can we find you so big keith ketonic at 73 go follow my orange gym the no wine cellar uh big grayson uh phillips 22 on instagram that's f-i-l-l-u-p-s it was also fucking impossible to find you because i know you follow me and i was just like okay i gotta look up grayson and luckily you're the only grayson on my thing but like did not expect the phillips thing so i'm glad you clarified that for us and that's grayson with an e not an a because i think a couple times i was typing it out as like grayson with an a

fuck is he like i can't find him so annoying a common misspelling yeah i'd imagine misspelling and you can find us at unpaid and underrated podcast there's a couple dots in between but if you start you'll find it um but really the website unpaidinterringpodcast.com it's gonna have a little bit of show notes and the show notes are going to talk to you about who the guests are probably give you some of our codes maybe if the guests have their own codes we'll start adding them to the show notes if we can if they're willing to supply us with those um you know things are only going to get better going on again and you know um big shout out uh tyler stone messaged me and said you know hey guys most podcasts don't make it past 20

that's awesome and here we are at 52 so like incredible work um we couldn't do it without the crew as much as me and keith are the people here every week uh this podcast is put together by so many people in the background that you know grayson you're getting a little hint of it you've seen the the chat there that's just for the guests those are all the people that have put this together since we started and so i just want to you know thank everybody grayson thank you for joining hopefully you know you can continue to continue to contribute to what we do here you know the when you've listened to every episode i would hope and expect that you have input for the future episodes um because you're the reason we're here. Not just you,

Grayson, that's out to everybody. That's, you know, really giving us the support that means Tanner spending his money. Well, no. And I,

I think I speak for the crew. You guys make this super fun and engaging. So I think it's a good time for everyone involved. Good. We like to hear that. And think it's a good time for everyone involved good we like to hear that sometimes it's like did we talk about enough masanomics stuff to like still be math like sometimes i feel like we didn't talk about masanomics at all and like are people going to not tune in like we're we just literally dove into the crew the guests so hard that like hey we forgot to kind of make it a third about masanomics and sometimes we talk about masanomics

half the episode and sometimes it's like just to see hair and it's just i mean it's it's just gonna it's gonna ebb and flow through each week so hopefully guys are you know enjoy joey and i's personality enough to like kind of just dig the podcast as it's standalone and if not you know then just cherry pick the episode whatever but nobody enjoys nobody enjoys my personality i think our our banter is gonna be somewhat amusing at times like i mean i'd hope i did actually so i got into a lull of there like i just getting overwhelmed with life and work like i i didn't listen i didn't re-listen to a handful of episodes maybe like there was like a two or three week span i was just like i didn't get to

it and i feel like i i felt left out and i know nate added some funny shit that i just missed out on um but i did was able to consume all last week's episode uh i just had a really long drive this week and i was like all right let's let's do it and i was like oh man i really need to get back into the like consuming the podcast it's just it's fun it really is even from even living through it every week it's just like i don't know i i feel like i need to honor the podcast by consuming it but sometimes it's just hard life's busy i and i think i said that last week like we do it we record it but then like a week later i don't fucking remember any of it and i like i you guys make me laugh every week that i'm listening to this and i make me laugh because i don't come up with this shit beforehand like i'm mostly doing

improv while i'm on here but i think specifically sometimes my wife will come up to me and she'll go i just got to the part where and then i'll remember like she said she came to me i think she listened to it yesterday and she walked up and she went i just got to the part where you talk about pulling out and I fucking died I died like laughing and she's like no it is it's that funny but I just can't laugh because like it's too funny

and it was just it was great to hear that kind of thing that like even my wife my wife I make her laugh all the time too so I was gonna make that an Instagram content and I never got around to it but it's still I don't even remember what i said yet i don't even remember exactly i made a i made a segue about like you know don't you know i said something about because we were talking about uh jack and jinger's mustache and i was like that was the first time i had ginger ever pulled out

or a guy with no a guy with a mustache ever pulled out you know because like porn stash and made a segue to that and then we went on the whole, don't get your old lady pregnant and miss the fucking meat. And you went a little graphic with it. And like, I was gonna, I think I actually, when I was listening back to it, I even screenshot it,

like the timestamp ish. So then when I, when I did go to get the video, I knew like roughly where to look, but I just fucking, I haven't got through it. Yeah. It's so that's not my joke.

I think I've heard that joke before. So like, I wouldn't like point that out there as something um hilarious but uh anything to pump our views I get it I would assume if we build or I don't know do you think you would pump our views you might as well pull out and pump it in the dark I am curious though if like if we've if Instagram is even worth like have we gotten any new listeners from instagram like i don't know unlikely we're a crew based like we're not we're not gaining anything from instagram no so i would say we're gaining mostly from the crew uh i think if we ever expanded maybe but like i had a random stranger ask me about my podcast like last at last week because they asked me how um yeah we went to spirit halloween and as i was cashing out i

bought my costume and they said um i have a question how do you say the word bagel and i was like well i say bagel and they were like how we thought so and then i was like you know what's really funny is i have a podcast where they just consistently rip on me for the way i say things and they were like really what's your podcast so like i think maybe we got one or two listeners from that and if you're listening hilarious it's like you probably are so bored by now i love my my my wife kind of uh we've been having some issues with like what yeah my wife of like where I can podcast just because with with the new cats now um we can't keep certain doors open so where my where I was recording is now where the litter box is so that door has to

be open and then the wife my wife doesn't want to have the bedroom door shut she wants the cast to be able to come in the bed and play with her and sleep on her and shit i'm like well i'm gonna like i'm sorry but like i can't just like not record my podcast so then like i'm in like a different spare bedroom a little bit it's it's just been a pain but uh i was like where the fuck were they going with this what the hell did i stay when i first started talking something about the butlers and all your spare bedrooms no i live in a house it's tight fuck oh no uh i love podcasting so much because she was like, is this like, is this podcast going to keep going on forever? And I was just like, well, I don't know if this podcast will, but I'm going to podcast

for the rest of my life. I feel at this point, like I when if this podcast dies next year or two years from now, because we just have interviewed everyone and we just retire, whatever, like I'm going to keep podcasting. That's when I'll dive into like a home gym podcast or something like that. One of my buddies already kind of like approached me to do that before I started this one. And I just never followed up with him about it. And now it's like, okay, well that guy could do that. I could literally just talk about home gym shit once a week with even with myself, if I have to, like, I'm going to podcast for the rest of my life in

some capacity. I feel you could just make a podcast where you just list things that cost money and then put it on YouTube and try to, and then, you know, reap the benefits of having a ad based YouTube channel as some of our sisters do. Speaking of that, see us out.

Keith. See you next Tuesday, boys.