Unpaid And Underrated - 026 : Chili and Cinnamon Rolls

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know Big Jake. They dive right into hard hitting topics like guac follow up, the LHLE Classic strongman show, Big Jake's origin story and disc golf. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @jake_heid (https://www.instagram.com/jake_heid/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jake.

and welcome back to episode two of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith and i'm joined as always by my co-host here big joey as always there's no flaw in that logic been here every time absolutely and as well as our special crew guest this week big jake i would say or is it beer belly lifts yeah the actual one here today no no no yeah for anyone that uh for anyone that wasn't here a few minutes ago which you technically wouldn't have been, obviously, Big Damager was joining us in the chat. He got called away to the nuclear power plant for some emergency, so he's a little preoccupied now. I miss him.

Well, I mean, we'll see him in July, maybe. Well, Jake, what are you drinking this week drinking this week buddy well i had to get something special so i got i got a buddy down in iowa that he likes to bring me brewery beers from decorah iowa so this is a pseudo sue of pale ale is Is Iowa Midwest? It's about as Midwest as I think you can get. I don't know if there's anywhere more Midwest, honestly. You know?

I hope that didn't show up on camera. No one can see. It was just a ghost. Just a ghost. It's a second ghost sighting this month up in Canada. So yeah, I think this is pretty close to where Big Jen lives. So maybe she's had a pseudo-sue before. We can ask her shortly here, possibly next Tuesday.

Well, I'm only working half a day tomorrow, so you know what that means. Breaking out the old McUltras. Yeah, I'm just doing Sparkled Water tonight. half a day tomorrow so you know what that means breaking out the old mickultures yeah i uh i'm just doing sparkled water tonight i'm gonna i'm on a mission to lower the amount of alcohol in my life so doing sparkling water tonight i've got one in there just in case but we're on a mission right now to to cut back and get in shape for that meeting in december nice oh yeah yeah uh how many pounds do you have i'm at one i keep fluctuating between 169 and 171 and i want to get down to 165 no sure yeah like even just dropping creatine would help but i think it would also screw up my recovery so i think cutting alcohol higher protein a little

less sugar a little well it's hard for me to do less sugar. I do almost no sugar. So I think the beer would really make a difference. Yeah. I'd say so. But yo, I've got the, I'm still, I'm still pounding these cranberry ginger ales. These are top tier. They're so good.

So I'll probably get another case of those. I'm so good. So I'll probably get another case of those. I'm so confused. If you have something directly behind your head or if you have like a water marker on your Zoom, because there's an emblem right behind your head and it's like crystal clear. Does anybody else recognize it? Do you recognize it? Oh, it's the Jaeger. That's the Jaeger symbol. It's right behind my headphone and my headphone keeps making it kind of clear.

Oh, okay. So it physically is there. It's blending in and then it's because, yeah, because we all have our well, Joey and I usually have our Zoom things blurred because we're in our bedrooms basically. That's been there since day one. I have so much stuff from them. I got that.

I got two of those actually. I gave one to my buddy i've got i got a hoodie from jaeger um i got a bunch of like like shot glasses and and things like that like i just have a lot of fun with those guys yeah i thought you had made a custom background that was just had this little perfect jaeger behind him i would that'd be so cool if i was that good at anything like that i could just like mess with you guys live time time like live stream what do you call that yeah yeah i thought maybe you were gonna bust out like your jaeger lifting team logo on us and you know that was the greatest actually that's coming that's coming

it's just you have to be like you have to be at a slightly different angle. I've been looking at your face for 27 weeks and it's never had that pop in and out like that. It's just amusing. I'm over here so you can see my zits instead of my... Someone mentioned perfect a little bit ago.

Speaking of perfect, Big Jake's wearing what some consider to be the perfect blank. Do you want to tell people what you're wearing, buddy? I brought it out just for the boys because I knew this is highly sought after by the guys. Yes. Original cut, original blank, huge life. I did think after Grayson's brought out the first run OG logos last week, I was like, I wanted to bring it out and I tossed it on. And I think it's a medium and I, I wear, I wear two X's.

Yeah. I, I was like, I asked my wife before I came up here and I was like, what do you think? She's like, please do not wear that. And it's like, yeah, just like the, the, um, screen printing on it is like so ripped up and shredded and yeah we'll have to uh before you go to bed tonight or something have your wife take a picture of you in it kind of like maybe flexing or something just so we can throw that up on instagram because you're you're probably you and a medium has got to be pretty uh you know i'm rocking out a little dark side of the moon shirt you know, I can't think of a medium anymore. I'm rocking out a little Dark Side of the Moon shirt.

I think I've worn this one in a minute, but it's a classic. Oh, we're going to get canceled. Some guy was reading John Q recently and discovered that. We're too woke here. Well, I can't even, I don't even remember what that was. We're going get to some some bullshit social media talk today so let's save it for that i've just got the buddy the band t the the blurry buddy light and it was so funny i wore this into i'm a i'm a member at the local uh pilots legion uh just because you know they do some community work and i like that shit and i went in there the one day and they were

like dude you can't wear that here like we're so we're so confused at how only that's blurry but that's actually really funny that's awesome yeah i almost i almost wore the uh the actual one the the uncensored one everybody would hate you that's the number one sought after that might like if tanner did just a crew only like like select crew right like just send it out like we're only doing a pre-order run of this and didn't tell anybody other than like the people he trusted he'd sell all of them it's crazy that it is so sought after because i remember when like that whole situation went down and he was giving them away,

like to get rid of them. And like, I have at the, I had the original shirt, but then I, he was like, buy another shirt and I'll give you the tank tops. And I gave me,

I have one or two of them. And then he gave me, it was tank tops. And he gave me like a stack of yeah, buddy stickers. That was probably about, it was tank tops and he gave me like a stack of yeah, buddy stickers. That was probably about, it was like 50 stickers he sent to me. And I was like, Oh, I guess we're really doing this, getting rid of all of these. Yeah, buddies.

But I have that sticker somewhere actually, but it's funny you're saying that. Cause that was what got me in. I saw the yeah, buddy in the back of somebody's lifting video and i was like that's the funniest thing i've ever seen how do i get one of those yeah it's yeah we had it it was in a white tank top i remember with the blue with blue lettering it was inverse and because i custom dyed it so that it because i didn't want a white i didn't want like a wife beater looking tank top yeah i dyed it like a, like a baby blue and had the dark blue lettering on it. And I see, yeah, it's down in the, down in the closet still.

Oh, oh, the old days. Yeah. Well, speaking of the old days, let's, let's resurrect one of our favorite little segments we have here. So I'm going to dive right into a little supporting the members we've supported. So we're going to show this out to the to the bears. The big, big Tanner and his lovely wife. Welcome. They are fourth kid, young Cy.

So welcome to the crew, Cy. Welcome, Cy. Congrats, Tanner. And Mary. And Mary. Yeah, we do that every time because the crew is Cy. Welcome, Cy. Congrats, Tanner. And Mary. And Mary. We do that every time because the crew is mostly the guys. Good work, guy that did

half of it or none of it. I also want to harken back to some old great times that we didn't know we had while we had them. I want to say goodbye to Brian. JP. Brian J1008. while we had them, um, you know, I want to say goodbye to Brian, uh, Jay,

Brian, Jay one zero zero eight. Um, you know, we, we had you, we didn't, we didn't appreciate when you had,

we, so when we had you, so, um, good luck in your future endeavors, best of luck in your life. I got such a kick out of that. I'm so glad we drug him. I,

I love when like 150 of us can just like rally around one cause and just make memes and bust balls for like 48 hours about some innocent fucker that like didn't even know what he was getting into and it was just like oh you schmuck shouldn't have shouldn't have done that buddy and this goes to the next clown we should talk about um what you got his name here you don't have his name here uh shoot where's it at fuck i did i just do that no that yeah it's cody zyke i think i believe that that decided to also leave a hateful comment from a locked account and like you know i've said this in certain ways, but I'm getting into big Mike Van Wick territory here. I love my kids. I never want my kids to experience bullying from either side.

I don't want my kids to be bullies. I don't want my kids to be bullied. But I think as a grown adult, if you make an Instagram account, you lock it down for the sole purpose of saying mean things to other people, you deserve to be bullied into oblivion. And that's it. I have no sympathy for guys like that. Brian wasn't following Masonomics to begin with. Yeah, I didn't think he was. There's no way way because i've seen these people do this before that's a standard copy and paste comment from these trolls this

this cody dude like he's also like he's yeah he's a bit of a big dude but like come on man you're not winning in competitions i could probably i'll look up i'll look up your name in open power lifting and find fucking nothing and like like guys, they just have these locked accounts. And Cody even unlocked his account after I called him out for it. You did verify. Joey isn't known for being accurate 100% of the time. When it comes to bullying idiots on Instagram, I am accurate. The first thing I did was...

So I'll say, I wonder if that's a locked account in the discord then i'll go to instagram and look and it was that's when i went back to discord and went yeah i'm like a hundred percent i'm batting a thousand on these and that's when i went and said to the dude yeah you're locked account no respect no i don't care about you so he unlocked his account and then was like it's not locked it's not locked like no buddy it was and like i said these guys like just we know who you are you're small weak come find like if you're the type that you're gonna message me now directly because you're listening to this and you're like oh yeah buddy i'll come find you no you won't and that's the thing they're locked accounts they're cowards

they're both they're they think they're bullies and then the crew got a hold of you and bullied you and in a way that wasn't like we weren't attacking like your children or your life or anything like that like we literally just made memes about how sad we were that you left. And that's a bullying in its own right. Oh yeah, we're definitely bullies. That's the power dynamic part of bullying, right? If you have 30 small people bullying a big guy, it's still bullying because the 30 people have the power dynamic.

And that's what that was. But we didn't have to do it in a way that like took him down we didn't so yeah i have no i have zero zero sympathy for guys like that and you know what the first thing i said to my wife that brian guy does that all the time i promise you i have no sympathy and then somebody went and goobed him and found all of his other mean comments that he does to other people that was amazing yeah but like But, like, I wasn't wrong. I'm never wrong with these types of guys. These types of guys are just, they're all that, that's all they are. I, my only thing I'll,

the only thing I'll add to that is, do we, is there any chance that Cody was just being witty because Tanner was wearing camouflage shorts, jorts, that is? Because, like, he never, like, defended himself as said oh i was just being funny he was just like giving jabs right back to people because i don't think he expected to get like attacked like that but it's like i don't know like if if one of us said it

it would have clearly been because he's wearing fucking camo shorts but i don't know i just yeah it was a very busy week in instagram for sure. But the locked account right away. I was just like, now I know your type. And does he even follow it? Let's go find out. Does he follow Masonomics? No, because he will. I don't know.

He's got a thousand followers in the queue. But who knows about that? I don't know that I trust that fact. Yeah, there's no way after like scrolling through his seven posts or whatever he had i was like yeah this guy doesn't get it so there's there's not a chance that he's in on the joke he actually does follow massonomics there you go but has no, not a single crew follower,

not a single. So he's just following and just follows massonomics. He does not as a meme. Yeah. Yeah. I think like out of their 50,000 followers, like 20,000 people have to just be following him for the memes, maybe even 30 or 40. Like,

like how many people are listening to the podcast? 10 out of the 50 000 probably not like five out of the 50 000 like i don't know yeah like some five you know there's a you gotta like that's why tanner's like multifaceted with it it's like you know you have to keep the instagram relevant you have to be like the meme page and you know a third of it is like inside jokes and then the rest is like general shit that anyone can laugh at. You almost made me feel bad there. You almost made me feel bad for everything.

But yeah, then I went and looked, and he follows mostly me. He does not follow any crew members. Yeah, he was being a douche. Yeah, maybe. Maybe just don't do that. I think that's kind of the easiest answer but anyway moving on yeah well speaking of not being a douche i had a fun little workout was it today's i think it was last night yeah so uh i met big chat big chad gbgpt chad jones uh i say yeah do you like his his witty ig and discord handle i think it's pretty amusing. But no,

he's a newer crew. I think he said he joined like six months ago or so, but it's been a long time listener and all that. He was in Rochester where I live for work and hit me up on Discord or Instagram, just asking about maybe grabbing some drinks or dinner for a workout and was able to get him over. It kind of just worked out that my buddy chris was coming over tuesday to the bench with me for my uh the garage gym competition i just wanted you know a nice full gym and then uh chad being able to come over just worked out great so he came over and uh was able to catch about an hour and a half workout with us for uh before we closed it down for the night and uh you know it was i think like the six the six crew that's been here so far.

I think the only person that's somewhat local that hasn't been here is my... Fuck, Nate, fix that. My co-host Joey's the only one that hasn't been to the goddamn gym. I stuttered like a bastard there. Stuttering like a bastard. Bastards

are well known for their stutters. But nonetheless, that was the No wine cellar crew meet up a little in an impromptu but uh it was it had a really good time so always always fun when i that was for your uh garage gym well so i i just happened to be you end up doing your list uh when i do the garage competition i don't necessarily say hey i'm gonna do a mock meet because fuck that like i i already do a couple meets a year i don't need to destroy my body and do a squat bench deadlift in a two-hour session like no thanks so i'll split it up over three days and just do a rp nine and a half ish singles depending on what my training is uh but yeah so i got a front squatted something heavy on sunday i feed up benched on tuesday and

then i'm gonna do like a high trap bar tomorrow but i'm still getting over my fucking back injury and i also have another medical issue that's keeping a squat bar off my back that hopefully can get resolved soon uh we'll see so counter to that i am doing a mock meet on saturday at steve's house i am going to destroy my body four weeks out from my, yeah, that's not, uh, well,

no, we're just testing. Are you putting a cap at it or you're absolutely like, I've, I've already set the numbers I intend to do just for the GGC, but it's mostly just cause, uh, I've only ever done like two meets and Steve's never done a meet.

So we're just really going to get together, like test the cues like have somebody actually like because you know when i work out alone so i'm doing cues in my head and i i didn't know i double bounce but apparently on bench i double bounce a bit so like it's things like that that i think we're going to get together and just push like less than less than 80 each are you doing the same federation that you did your other meet at? Yes. Okay, so you're familiar with the rules because different powerlifting federations,

they all have different fucking commands. Some you have to wait for a start command. There's random shit that's different in federation to federation, so as long as you know the terminology and what to say. I'm pretty familiar with the WRPF up here, and that's just kind

of what like we're just gonna queue each other up but we are gonna do a mock meet for the ggc nice but it is just a way to get together about a month before we do a real meet and just like i said i'm not my deadlifts are gonna be 400 squats gonna be maybe 300. Like I'm not doing anything over 75% for this. Smart. Yeah. That's kind of, I I'm, I'm also sending it,

but I'm going to do it tomorrow morning. Um, I was just to keep the limiters on, I'm going to do everything with an axle bar and, you know, just keep it at like an RPA ish, eight and a half. See what,

you know, it's going to be goofy to like squat with an axle bar so i was just i was gonna say do you have a do you have a neural uh axle or i mean like most axles aren't neural but there are a handful that are uh you just you put your straps on it oh i've tried that to like mimic a safety squat bar and it does not go it does not work because the yeah for whatever reason like with especially with the extra smoothness of it of an axle bar like it just wants to i'd be so afraid to squat with an axle i'd be like i'm gonna put like 70 on and i don't know like i would

because it's so big too so it's gotta be it'll be fine yeah i mean i almost want to get an excellent try it i'm gonna have to like squat uh like high bar with it i don't think glow bar is gonna work very well with it but yeah we'll we'll send it it'll be fine oh i'm looking forward to looking looking at that on instagram tomorrow afternoon that'd be cool to see just squat with your trap bar figure it out i I could, though. I could do a yoke, kind of. If I could get it properly set up, I could turn that into a...

Hmm, I want to do that. Because I've got one of those ones that's U-shaped with the built-in jacks. Oh, yeah, there's people that... I could turn that into a yoke. Yeah, Deadliest lift has done a bunch of stuff like that the ref fitness one specifically has neural on it i think so you can use it as a camber bar yeah like yeah it's it's round strong man here we come

yeah so we'll get into that a little bit later because we do have the uh director no we won't i didn't get an invitation no i'll always invite only i died someone someone had mentioned it was invite so i'm assuming well we'll get into that let's let's get through the last couple segments where we get off because we'll we'll end up fucking talking about that for a half hour and have to circle back to this so uh we have a new segment relative it's relatively new to us you know i did i did come up with it. It is original to me. I reached out to some people and I said, send me some stuff. And someone

took me up on it. Actually, not really. One of the hosts randomly messaged me out of the blue and said, there's something coming for you. Just keep an eye out for it and you have to open it up on the podcast. So here goes nothing. So you haven't even seen this? No. My wife opened it up and then resealed it just to make sure

because it was just to make sure it wasn't farts well no dude i've gotten so many packages from amazon at my house the last week uh it's my my my wife's birthday was this week so my presents to her were coming in my mom sends my wife's ship to me to wrap and give to her and then my wife's been ordering a million things, so Joey's face is confused. We could have just left that at, to make sure it wasn't farts. Can you open this package already? Oh, Jesus.

This is, you know, a sack-to-sack segment from his sack to my sack. Let's see what this is. It's an Amazon package. They're blue. Blue. Blue. Blue. Blue.

Blue. You got me, Anchorman. Socks. Hell yeah. Now I got to wear these tomorrow. Yep. Good work, Tanner. That's good.

That's really good. I get it. That's funny. Good job. Thank you, Tanner. That's good. That's really good. I get it. That's funny. Good job. Thank you, Tanner. Let me actually double check. Are they labeled left and right? Because that's been a topic of conversation here. I don't think there is. No, because most normal socks aren't.

One foot fits all. So that's cool. Appreciate that. Most normal socks are not labeled left and right. They're legit too. They got the whole logo, the Anchorman, the Legend of Run, Burgundy,

all that. Good stuff. I will wear these not proudly. I don't know what the term for that is. Begrudging. I'm not going to look at the gift horse in the mouth, but that might be a that's a good gift.

That's awesome. Do you got a couple things you added on here? Yeah, just two things I added. One I wanted to mention. Last week you asked me when we were talking about ginger cats, about Murph's cats troy and abed yes they're both males gotcha so i know we kind of like read the statistic that not

all but most are yeah it was like 80 i think or something i would challenge anybody listening to this the roughly 150 to 250 people that listen to these to these podcasts if you have a female ginger cat let us know yeah because yeah like i i want to meet that cat that'll be the next uh unpaid and underrated segment i want to meet your cat um but i also wanted to pose another question to you guys that kind of like came from last week's episode of of the the raw fish and guac um so big ryan angry monkey he said something along the lines that like california rolls have avocado so that kind of goes with raw fish but i don't think avocado is guacamole. So what do you guys think of the idea

that an ingredient equals the end result? I think my other argument to that is, does a California roll actually have raw fish in it? I've had them with salmon. I think a California roll can have salmon or that fake

crab in it that's what i was thinking was the crab and usually if it's crab meat at least it's either the imitation or it's the fake and so that's where i was like does that change it you know i hadn't considered that i was mostly just saying like just because it's avocado doesn't mean it's guacamole right like yeah yeah yeah if i'm holding hops and barley in one hand i can't shove them in my mouth and get beer yeah right that logic is foolproof to me i see no flaws in it and they and the avocado versus guac i would agree that... I can put... That's tough, but yes.

The stuff I would do with an avocado I wouldn't necessarily do with guacamole. We'll eat some sliced up avocado with chicken breast and stuff, whereas... I would definitely dip some chicken in some guacamole, but guacamole is way too much effort to make.

It isn't, though, but guacamole but the guacamole is way too much effort to make uh it was it isn't though but but guacamole guacamole it's pronounced guacamole has um like salt and pepper and i'll put cayenne with mine and some lime juice and you gotta it up and like mix and like all that but and it creates a different texture and a different flavor and rather than a slice of avocado. But I think the reason I'm bringing it up is because he's not a hundred percent incorrect. There is a certain point where you are gonna, there is that kind of connection of raw fish and avocado.

Yeah. My, I think it is California roll, just a generic term though. Cause like, so my wife always gets like she she she quote unquote you just eat sushi but only the shit that has no fish in it so it's just rice a vegetable and then like soy sauce and you know we're both googling it right now aren't we jake yeah so it's like she uh it's imitation crab okay so then whatever

whatever one she eats has no fish in it. Like, it's literally, it's just like a... Imitation crab is usually made up of haddock, right? Imitation crab is haddock compressed. Yeah, it's like some kind of fish and basically a bunch of sugar put into it. Yeah, but it's just a slice of avocado. So, I don't know. I think that there's... It's just a slice of avocado.

So, I don't know. I think that there's... I don't know. Sushi spicy sauce is the tits for a dipping sauce for sushi as opposed to... The spicy sauce? Like you mix the wasabi and the... No, no, no. I don't know. So, Wegmans

is the only place I've really... 90% of the sushi I've consumed has been at our big major grocery chain down here. They have a a really good you know prepared food area and they just call it a spicy sauce i think it's like i don't know it's whatever like the reddish sauce that's always served with sushi it's like an orange sauce it's spicy spicy mayo yeah spicy mayo we just they it's literally called spicy sauce here like i don't know what yeah quote unquote spicy mayo but yeah that is like shit's funny because like she'll get like a seven dollar roll but then they should buy like a three dollar container of that if it doesn't

come with it i'm like jesus it's so much money oh yeah i i buy that i buy that uh by the bottle and i just i put that on like eggs everything spicy mayo Spicy mango for the win. I just wanted to just talk about that briefly because it was a weird thing. I just thought at first I was like, no, tell me that can't be correct. But then I was like, yeah, but it kind of like is. But yeah, now that you bring it up, that's invitation rules. I think you get a different, I think you get, I think you could like get a different, the way you pose the question and what you're specifically talking about, you could ride the line either way, I'd say. Take sushi and all that out of it.

Anything. Does this make up that? I think you could talk for hours about it. But that almost is borderline too political for us. Interestingly enough, there's a little bit of thing about the California roll is that it may have been invented in Canada. Yeah, Hawaiian pizza, California

roll, we don't take credit for shit. I do like some Hawaiian pizza. There's a little bit of malarkey on there about at the same time a bunch of different chefs that they invented it all within like 30 days of each other um and one of them was canadian interesting interest why why we're on hawaiian pizza what's everyone's uh quick little side change because i'm i have a very strong stance on it. Pineapple belongs on pizza. And I don't

care if you think it doesn't. In my opinion, it absolutely does. Sometimes. I don't want pineapple on my pizza 24-7, but a third of the time I have pizza, if you throw some pineapple on there, I'm happy. Jake, go ahead. Oh, yeah. My stance on this is pretty strong that if you... oh yeah um my stance on this is pretty strong that if you the people that don't think it belongs on pizza they make it their personality and if you care some so strongly about something like that you got you gotta go worry about other things in your life if someone's putting go deadlift be happy yeah touch grass like you're crying uh okay so this is a thing my wife and i talk about a lot um i like my pizza as i like my pepperoni and cheese maybe a little chicken maybe some olives if you're going to start creating a pizza salad where you just toss ingredients on bread and sauce and call it a pizza,

that's also fine. But don't pretend it's a pizza. I could say pineapple is more pizza than chicken. You could. You could. Right? But again, I'm down. When she orders Hawaiian pizza, I eat it.

But I would never go way to order hawaiian pizza i got you i ate a shawarma pizza last week they're like the indian food stuff right uh shawarma is more middle east it's oh yeah yeah it's a shaved chicken and they put they put the hot sauce and the white sauce and it's but i'm not gonna sit there and go this is like you know italy great italian the pizza like i'm not gonna to sit there and go, this is like, you know, great Italian pizza. Like, I'm not going to pretend. It's usually really cheap because they serve it as like an appetizer for like seven bucks. I've had it before like that.

It's fucking delicious. But like, yeah, like my favorite pizza is a margarita. There's no meat, right? It's sauce, buffalo mozzarella, fresh basil, fresh tomatoes. That is the best pizza. And if somebody can make that and not screw it up, you should trust their pizza making skills. But I'm never going to order pineapple on a pizza. I'm never going to go out of my way unless somebody else in the party wants it.

So I have a place near me that you can basically go and get like, think like Chipotle Subway, just like, you know, made to order your way kind of pizza, though. So like I can literally pick every single ingredient I want and it's ready in like eight minutes, like a big brick oven. It's like it's, you know, you stand in line, you pretty much by the time you pay for it, it's like borderline getting cut up and ready to go. And I always put a little bit of pineapple on that and always happen to have go a little bit crispy because it's like all the like all the toppings are free uh as long as you don't like even if you go double meat it's only like a couple bucks extra or something so i i love being able to just get like a super bougie extra pizza there um but yeah like i'm cool i'm giving pepperoni and cheese all day but people i i think i don't like someone sent me something with pineapple one at the end of the

day and it's got me in a whole tantrum of like there's so many people that like Jake said, they literally make it their personality. Pineapple does not belong on pizza. But I also will pose this question. What about pineapple and like a chicken sandwich or a burger? Because I'm a huge fan of that as well. Pineapple on burgers is top fucking tier, bud. Here's what you do. You take a little coffee grounds.

Okay. take a little coffee grounds okay take a little brown sugar and a little bit of a hot sauce and you coat a ring of um of pineapple you grill that shit then you eat it on a burger and if you get one of those soon absolutely that sounds fantastic all right i can talk about this all week but let's go ahead and move into uh let's you guys want to rate last week's episode of the massonomics podcast podcast yeah okay well someone go first because i'm for some reason drawing a blank but yeah no no it was uh so someone will say what it was what the hell was it i can buy them yeah yeah yeah so the other the other doctor yeah the kind of interesting but less funny doctor i i've got a pretty decent like long term

like he's one of the first so i think i've been on instagram since like i don't know 15 or 16 maybe maybe even 17 like somewhere in that realm but he was one of the first so i think i've been on instagram since like i don't know 15 or 16 maybe maybe even 17 like somewhere in that realm but he was one of the first guys that popped up i think i followed i'm pretty sure it was on like mark bell's podcast and i just you know assimilated to him from there possibly but uh yeah he his big thing was he he was a huge instagram live guy uh he would do instagram lives like literally two or three a day shirtless, like making his eggs every day. So like, that's what that was my first experience with him was just him being shirtless cooking, doing like a 20 minute Instagram live, like a couple times a day. And I was just like, you know, that was like, no one does Instagram, like very seldom does someone do an Instagram live anymore. And if it if it is, it's no one that I want to fucking interact with and like

spend my time wasting away. But like, for some reason, I just always caught myself. There was a cut that was like a year span there, like probably five or six years ago. And it was just funny because he was he was just the shirtless doctor. And like, I think that's the only thing I even knew him as. But it was always, you know, it was cool to have him. You know, he's a very intelligent guy. I, you know, I liked a lot of the car talk. So, you know, since it was mass dynamics related, you know, go ahead and give it a five out of five GDs.

So, you know, since it was Mastodon Race related, you know, go ahead and give it a five out of five GDs. Can we just talk about how Keith had to say twice that it was really important to him that Jordan was shirtless in those live videos? That was the key to keeping him there was, you know, cooking shirtless. That's that's going to get me. Like cooking egg shirtless is nothing. Cooking baconless yeah like that's conan it's conan levels of bravery um i i'll fully admit you guys like to laugh that i haven't heard of anybody till they're on the podcast um but i actually do think i listened to the last episode with that guy and then also forgot who he was and i don't know if that's indicative of who he is or who i am um but when they was like oh this is your second

time of the podcast i was like bullshit i went and looked up and i'd listen to that episode so i i think that he came across really fun um maybe he got it more than he did the first time right because like i kind of remembered more about him this time than I did the last time, but usually that it's when they get on there and they don't know who mass nomics is. I don't know. I don't remember. Um,

I don't remember much from the episode because honestly, like it was interrupted by phone calls and it took me like two days to listen to it. Uh, so for that reason, I think I have to give it a five. I'm going to give it five ipod touches yeah i uh i remember his first one uh not well but i do remember the them trying to prod him about

uh jim wendler and that's what made me go oh yeah that guy he doesn't like Wendler. So, okay. We can, can remember him now, but yeah, he seemed much more casual at that. More into it. Just like Joey said, seemed, I liked that he was able to like be very lighthearted about the Joe Sullivan stuff. That was good. But yeah, I, I think I'll give him five JD Powers as well. That's a pretty good rating. We'll have to get Big Kevin to tally that up for us

and post on Instagram and see what the actual overall rating was because I can't do that math. We're not, as Joey says, we're not big math here. Yeah. What are you, big math now? I wonder if we should move from JD Powers into Mathnomics Gym iPod Touches.

I like it. I think that that would be really kind of like... Let's move that to Canon. The JD Powers things they can have for their drinks, I might start rating their episodes on iPod Touches. Yeah, I think that would just be

iPod Touches. Because saying Mastanomics iPod Touches would just be too much of a mouthful but like yeah we introduced the segment and go like how many massonomics gym ipod touches do you give this but then when you rate it you only say ipod touch just to keep it yeah that's fair i like it there you go another canon move made mid mid episode the last one i I think, was... We're going to forget that, though. No, we're not. I'll have to go to my

template and change it from J.D. Powers to iPod Touches at some point. Oh, wow. Every single wall tile I put up before we recorded has fallen down. I put a bunch of acoustic tiles up and there's one out of seven still hanging. That was short-lived. Not a handyman. I put a bunch of acoustic tiles up and there's one out of seven still hanging. Yeah.

So that was short-lived. Not a handyman. I mean, I am, but... If they can't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. Ooh. Ooh, I got one thing I do want to touch base on before we get into the next segment here. Has anyone watched Shorzy yet other than make the second season hit last week? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, I binged that fucker and i i think i

was i think i worked like three hours last friday and got kicked out of the office and went home and sat on the couch and watched like six i guess it was three three and a half hours of shorts absolutely i went through that entire season as soon as i could same uh this is the last year of letter kenny by the way this series finale is going to air this December I think I saw a handful of episodes of the previous season they got to get finished and then we'll have the whole you know last season

I can see why they're quitting you can only do this so long right it's all repetitive jokes it's been like a decade almost it is actually I think they're going to season 10 and they only do 6 episodes a year there's only so long any show can go on and the way they like left shorezy off i mean it's like it's funny too because it's gonna end up taking three or four years to get through like a six month period of time on the show so

everyone's gonna be like five years older but um i'm i'm in for it give me shorzy all day it's one of my like i like like i get like shorzy's a nine letter kenny's like an eight and a half for me like i just i i think i like shorzy a hair better than letter kenny just because it's more of an ongoing actual story that's because it's it's it's more linear and that's your brain type you need that linear stuff that's do you watch X-Files? I mean when I was a kid briefly but not as an adult really

I imagine you wouldn't because it's not linear X-Files if there's 10 episodes to a season every two would be part of the storyline but they would have monster of the week shit in between. And I feel like that would drive you insane.

It would get old quick. Big Jake, would you like to hit us off a little sponsor read, but you got anything prepared or anything off the top of your head? You wanted to shout out at us. I think he might be frozen. He is frozen. He is frozen. He is frozen.

Oh, that's great. He's looking down at his notes, too. No, that's him looking down going, I think I'm fucking frozen. So Tanner's got four kids, dude. What is it like? It's a lot of kids. But he's got the house to, you know, I bet every

kid has a bedroom and then there's probably still at least one extra bedroom depending on what you count the basement at. And a whole fulfillment center. Yeah, if the fulfillment center is a bedroom. Yeah, well, I'm curious. That's a big house, so I'd imagine it's at least a four or five bedroom, you'd think.

So every kid's probably there's probably no one bunking up just yet. No, need to find room for mary's cactuses yeah well i mean i don't know how many are left after big eddie kicked the shit out of them there in july i hope he catches up and listens to this because i love giving him a jab about that can you do a meme of stone cold stomping somebody in the corner of the ring and then just like Big Eddie and then Mary's Cactuses. That really was like I know I've said it like the exact same thing, but it was just

so funny because Eddie wouldn't hurt a fly. Yeah. And here he is like like just so funny. But let me see if he's coming in right now. Perfect. He's golden grams There he is

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That was embarrassing I'm so sorry I got a jab in my eye That was fucked up true though what am i big key yeah man this this this wi-fi antenna thing i got a couple weeks ago i think i've only dropped my i've only been you've only told me i froze once and i never froze on my end because i still heard you guys all the time so i'm i'm batting a thousand since i got this antenna yeah my mind like completely like zoom crashed like went away and i was like sitting there going like what what the hell do i do like yeah that's that's about the face we said you

froze on too we don't need it and it's gonna the recording's just gonna we don't need to record hit record again or anything right it's just going to pick right back up yeah yeah yeah all right all right you want to do your ad read my friend yeah so my ad read for for our um sponsor this week is a little uh uh what do you what do you call it joey the when a wrestler does like a promotion a promo promo yep it wrestler does a promo? Yep, it'll be a promo. So my little promo today is for the Masonomics Lift Hard Live Easy Classic No. 2. So are you interested in watching big, giant men and women lift giant and incredible weights. Well, you probably should have watched the American pro like two weeks ago,

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for the ad read. Well done. Appreciate that, buddy. Always like when we get a nice, you know, quick hit and ad read. That's always good for us.

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Unpaid Underrated sent you. There we go. They would like that. I want to kick out all the riffraff, get our guest on now that we can dive right in an hour later? Is Damager still in there? Because if he is, we do got to kick his ass out. No, he's gone. I don't want to hear it.

I don't want to spoil it for anybody. Yeah, let's get him out and see if the guest is ready. All right. Big Jake, is that you? It is I. I'm here. Hey, welcome to the unpaid and underrated is that actually like is it just that someone said it here or does someone say it on the sister

podcast because like you're like the third or fourth guy that i said it is i like am i missing where that like what's the origin story on that or is it just like is it just canon now because someone said it and i feel like you're not even in like the fifth or sixth person that said it it's a many uh many a crew has said it and it just caught me off guard tonight for some reason i don't know why it's probably just in my brain because this like i have been listening but i like didn't start listening until the lift hard, live easy classic July. So I'm like trying to catch up on all the past ones. And I probably listened to legitimately no lie. I probably listened to six episodes of this,

this week alone. So I was like, I probably heard it at least once or twice. Did you listen on like 1.5 or anything or did all at regular play time oh i listen on 1.7 because i it's pretty quick yeah i'm i'm i'm understandable at that speed uh there's a few points where you i mean you start talking about traffic where it gets a little heinous but you know other than that i can i can handle it nice. Nice. I love it. I love it. I do feel like in general, if I if I'm wrong, people let me know.

I I feel like I'm talking 10 ish percent slower than I did like the first 10 episodes. Like I I it's not I'm not consciously having to do it anymore, but I do just feel that I'm talking to hair slow enough that it's not as noticeable but you know if i am i'm not going to change at this point so fuck you honestly when i when i first jumped on this zoom recording i was like oh my god this is what they actually sound like because i was going at 1.7 speed i'm oh yeah yeah like my we're we're not chipmunks you know yeah it's like coming through like molasses right now it's yeah that's funny somebody's saying somebody's saying keith speaks slow love it that is good stuff yeah that might be a first yeah you've lowered your tempo in the past 300 episodes yeah i i feel like i did good uh so big jake you touched

on it earlier about some of the shirts you had gotten when you were a kid with Tanner and all that. So just in general, what brought you to Masonomics? I think I have a little bit of an understanding, but let the world know how you were first introduced to the gym, Tanner, Tommy, you know, podcast, all that. Let's hear it. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm probably the only, well, besides Tanner's buddy, Darren, grew up in the same town as Tanner. So one of, you know, 75 people that can even say that. So, you know, rare air there. is about eight he's either eight or nine years older than me so I didn't really like know him he was like a friend of my uncle's growing up but then like when I was in high school like he that's when they started doing the uh first started doing like strongmans and I can remember like my grandpa my grandpa being like that Tanner guy Tanner Bair, that's the strongest guy I've ever met. And I was like, well, I kind of want to be like Tanner Baird then.

So, so then, you know, when they started the gym and the podcast and all that, like I've been as close to a day one as, as basically a gym member can be, but without being a gym member, like I bought, bought shirts through Facebook messenger back in like 2013, 2014. So yeah. And I've been to all three, all three of the iterations of the massonomics gym,

you know, so Tanner and I are, I consider us good friends now. So just been along for the ride since the beginning. I, I listened to the first podcast episode the day it dropped. I remember it coming across my Instagram. I was sitting in class as a sophomore in college, and I was like, yep, I'm going to listen to that after class.

And I was review number three back in the day. So yeah, been along for a long time. Hell yeah. So you were there, you were there at the origin. So how long, I mean, just probably literally eight years ago. So good luck remembering, but like, how long do you think they had an Instagram before the podcast became a thing?

I know, I know, I know Tanner was kind of bootstrapping himself and he'd have schnoz do some stuff. And then, you know, all of a sudden, you know, Tyler got involved and then Tommy. There was like a podcast like the next day, basically. In the gym. Gym obviously was in there sometime. I'm just curious, Instagram versus like podcast.

What do you think the timeline was? If you have any memory at all? If the... I want to say it probably started right about the same time as the gym or shortly after, like it couldn't have been long. Cause it probably went, it probably went up about the same time that the website went up.

And I remember that happening. Like it was either late 2013 or early 2014. Cause the, the gym and the podcast is like Aprilil-ish of 2014 so it had to have happened right about then like before i want to say it was before the podcast dropped that's cool that's very uh very neat to hear i always like hearing origin stories especially when it's like people that grew up you know or were literally in the same area. Let's just, you know, obviously some, a lot of people listening to this podcast literally live all over North America and some, you know, on the other side of the planet, possibly a couple of ways.

We have a handful of international listeners. Uh, so it's always just cool to, you know, get a little more insight to the actual Aberdeen boys and all that. Uh, so says to someone who's been around for a long time, what's, uh, what's one piece of massonomics merch that you wish you had gotten that you missed out on yeah i've been doing a lot of thinking on this one because i i have touched i have gotten an opportunity to get all of like the coveted items that people like like the huge life the yeah buddy the massonomics 45 raglan

the massonomics 45 raglan t that i got that um the one thing that i've always wanted uh that i regret not getting is the uh 2017 massonomics showdown like camo hoodie it had like an eagle on it uh in the in the logo and i really thought it was cool i just like i don't know i was too cheap because i was probably in i was like a junior in college at that point i was like ah forty dollars for a sweatshirt that's i don't know a hoodie a uh a hoodie that would cost you like 70 bucks today probably so yeah exactly and all they did was take somebody else's hoodie and put their own logo on it and charge more yeah it's crazy i can't believe they did was take somebody else's hoodie and put their own logo on it and charge more? Yeah, it's crazy. I can't believe they did that. But the one shirt that I do want, and I've always, I've prodded Tanner since day one, is he has a one-of-one black Masonomics shirt with the red logo.

And I thought, like the one that they posted. Yeah, the fucked up one that's got like 30 of the prints on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, I've asked him for that since 2014. Like, he would wear it. Be like, please, can you just run it? Like, give us an actual run of it.

And he's never listened to me on it, but it's still one I'm holding out for. I mean, if you really are at it, you probably circumvent him. I mean, not that we want to do that and take away from the boys' source of income, but literally just take a screenshot of the Mastomix logo, go to any screen printer in the world, and say, print this on a black shirt for me, please. And red. Red logo, black shirt.

Yeah. The thought had crossed. But then you just have to Venmo Tanner like 30 bucks on top of buying the shirt yourself. And then you got to pay Venmo Tanner like 30 bucks. So on top of buying the shirt. And then, then you got to pay the entire crew Wolf back. No, you can't have a black shirt with the red logo on it without letting them in

on it. See, you know, there people would buy it. Exactly. All right. I did take it. Like I actually had time to look through some of these notes

well i appreciate that i mean it's a little bit of time sometimes it's hard it's hard when you posted your instagram story of like podcast prep is hard and i was like you mother like oh yeah and i was not having a smoke i I was like, fuck you. Why do you think I had my phone open? Because I was reading your notes. I gotcha. It's just so much. Right now, I'll give people a little

peek behind the curtain. It's funny. I have a big Jen next week's guest. She had made a Facebook message to five people, and they all got back to me three or four days ago. I can't bring myself to open that yet because I'm like, I don't want to be like, I don't want to have other information in my head right now. Like, and you know, I just, I need to focus on Jake's episode. I want to have all that stuff fresh. So like literally tomorrow I'll open up like six unread messages from big Jen's friends. Uh, you know, I started building

it. It's just, it's funny. Like I just like, I just, in the back of my head, it's like, Oh my God, I need to get to that, but i don't want to open it until i'm done with jake yeah you you you guys really need to get uh some unpaid interns for your unpaid intern podcast we got one right now yeah we have we want to well well is nate our intern or are we his nate is literally more important than us. Nate is part of the pod. Nate is the third co-host. He just is only going to be on. He's, you know, by the end of the year, he'll be on two episodes probably.

So, you know, Nate's on as many episodes as he wants to be on. Nate could come on literally every week and it's going to be a three-man show. But then we'd have a four-hour podcast every week. So I don't think anyone wants that. But anytime Nate wants to be on the podcast, he knows he has an open invitation but nate is very busy uh we're lucky that nate actually produces the podcast for us but he has an open invite you know same with big matt all right welcome anytime man we've been trying to get you and you're just not showing up it's you know open invitation guys yeah do you think we'll be able to get his podcast he was

gonna fart for 23 episodes oh that's that's one thing we can be able to get to his podcast? He was going to fart for 23 episodes. Oh, that's one thing we can talk about real quick to just pat ourselves on the back. Nate had shared something with us in our private chat or in our group chat. Was it only 1% of podcasts make it 22 episodes, 21 episodes, 20 episodes, something in that realm? That's why I didn't believe 90% of podcasts don't make it past the first one. Like, like, that's why I didn't believe 90% of podcasts don't make it past the first one. Like, really? Yeah, that's all made up. That's a made up stat. It's all

made up stats. Nonetheless, we're one percenters. You know, we're on episode 26, 27, somewhere in that world, depending on how you're counting. Pretty fucking proud of us. I'm happy. This has been awesome. You know, I'd love for this to last another few years until we're at a crew,

but that's up to you guys. If you guys won't come on the episodes, we can't have a podcast. So actually here's a good time. If you're listening to this and you want to be on the podcast, give the unpaid and underrated Instagram, a DM, give Keith a DM,

give Joey a DM. Well, no, not Joey. Cause he'll, he'll forget to tell me. And I won't make it to the spreadsheet. So, you know, fuck your spreadsheets. I'll just tell you. That's fine.

Reach out to someone and we'll get you in the queue for being on the episode. So I'm going to remind you we have a guest. I know. Yep. Jakey Poo. What's it like running the Lift Hard Live Easy Strongman show? As of right now, I like the Jakey Poo.

That's nice. The Strongman show. Stressful. But just because there are a few Discord crew members that are very demanding on dates and times and flights. They're got a high expectation. They probably want their events well in

advance too. Yeah, that one I went back and forth with Tanner on like, should we just not say anything until May? Maybe about events, just events just say yeah you're gonna do four events you have fun but ultimately we decided on you know letting them know 10 months in advance a pretty good idea of things but yeah it so far it's going pretty good you know we have

13 or 14 officially signed up for it out of our 20 time our 20 cap um waiting on a few more to get registered get officially registered pay their dues um because you know that's really what's holding us back from opening up the powerlifting one um that's what, so I saw that question posed in the discord of when is, when is the powerlifting? It was me that posed that. Cause like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to miss, if I'm at work doing black Friday shit and I can't look at my phone for 10 hours, I can't just turn to a customer and be like, you hold on. I got a thing to sign up for. Right. So I might miss it.

I might miss it for a whole day. I really, I really tried. I might miss it for a whole day. I really, I really tried. I asked Tanner and he said, just tell him sometime in November. And I was like, yeah, yeah,

yeah. That's what we're hoping for. Yeah. That's helpful. It's fucking November now that there's like 28 more days. Now, just, just to clarify,

the strong man was invitation only, right? Well, so what we did was we posted like a pre-registration in the Discord. And out of the 20 to 30 people that filled out that pre-registration, we narrowed it down to about 20 people that we sent out invites to, to fill up four different classes. And then of that 20 were, I mean, we're trying to get all 20 of them, but if they don't, you know, sign up in the next week, we're going to go to the next guy on the list. we're going to go to the next guy on the list. So this is your calling that you, you, you got an invite and you want to be a part of that greatest show on earth.

I mean, you might want to do it. So big hot was encouraging me. I think it made scans was encouraging me, but I missed the pre-registration. So tell me, I have again, I'm not on my phone all the time. So I just must've missed the posting. But I have, again, because I'm not on my phone all the time. So I just must have missed the posting.

But I mean, at like at 170 pounds, what am I possibly going to do at a strongman competition? Well, I mean, we, so like our, our range that we have is like, we have a, we're calling it, we have four different classes. So we have a women's class. That's the big women. And then we have the big, but new, that's our novice class. And so that's going to be all, you know, weight and sizes openly big, our big men, which is our middleweight guys. And then our bigger men, which is our, our open guys. So, but the the you would have fit perfectly into that uh um big but new class i think i think that is totally possible for you would have been

totally possible for you if you uh had gotten yourself signed up you know but all i'm saying all i'm saying is this is also why i can't miss the november the powerlifting registration because like i just got boned have uh can i suggest we'll have download have morgan download discord log in under your username and just like beg her to scour oh yeah and take her away from her instagram reels or she sends me 15 a fucking day. No, we're not going to do it. I know.

If I missed the fucking power of it, I'm in the same boat too. It's like fourth quarter. I'm going to be swamped. So like, yeah. And my, I just hope they have the courtesy to just be like,

all right, it's going to be on this day. And then I'll just check it every 10, 15 minutes. And then I'll just let my coworkers know, like at any point, I'm going to like stop working for 15 minutes to go sign up because I literally have like a $5,000 vacation riding on if I fucking can sign up for

this or not. Well, so either way I'm coming, like I want to point that out. I'm not coming. Well, Steve said the same thing. He's like,

if he's not, if he can't compete, he's not coming either way. I'm coming just as an unpaid and underrated like host just i and that's when i will get a media pass if i'm not if i'm not lifting i'm gonna tell tanner i'll ask him nicely sorry like just get me a media pass so that nobody looks at me funny when i'm going around taking videos um so i'll do you boys a solid and I'll make sure that the day the day it goes live, I'll send it to your wives so they can call you. You know, I don't know if my wife phoning me.

Some some stranger just messaged me and said, get on this cord. She's like, that's weird, right? Is that how you because I've slid into like twenty seven, know, well, 27 significant others DMs. I don't know. When you just said you were sliding my wife's DMs, I got a little like heart palpitations. I don't know if I like that. I hope I don't. I don't.

I hope I don't have the guest feel awkward when I do that. Because I was like, fuck, I don't want him talking to my wife. But I don't know. It's just funny. That's the random. You were talking. You were. You were talking to my wife earlier.

That's weird. Yeah. I talked to a lot of why I talked to a lot of wives in this position that I'm in. You're going to have to get over that. One thing I want to touch on for the Lift Hard, Live Easy Strongman show, it's up to you and the competition you have with Tanner of what you're allowed to say. So I listened to the live episode yesterday for at least the portion where he talked about you being the essentially the director of the strongman show um he hinted that the he and he and he he even like said that like take that you know like listen to what i'm saying like it's gonna be something cool essentially that the uh the fuck what's the thing that you

pick up why can't i think of the the horse on that well no the fucking what's the thing that you pick up why can't I think of the the horse well no the fucking what is the fucking it's the the who's the felt is going to be something cool so I'm going to guess you don't have to are you allowed to say what it is or are you keeping it so I'm going to guess that it's something

it's got to be something like crew adjacent you know it's just a giant drink spotter they're going to be like something with massonomics logo on it the one thing that would be hysterical that i'm sure you're not gonna do is if it was the the the one really famous clip of the guy with the huge fucking like like three foot long black dick fucking i can't imagine you're gonna do that at a family show, but like the way Tanner was like almost busting a gut and like really proud of whatever it was going to be. Okay.

So you can't say what it is. Is it a complete concept right now? Or is it something in the works? Like, is it something that's already getting produced and made or is it completely up your ass? It might not even happen. Well,

it's, it's definitely getting produced. I mean, we are in talks with a company to custom make it for us that'll be cool okay but yeah so like we we just don't know like the finer details of like you know like what i don't know what the dimensions look like yet i'm still waiting on that but like well doesn't it doesn't a husuvels don't have to be a standard dimension otherwise it's not a husuvel well okay so we're we're calling be a standard dimension. Otherwise, it's not Ahusaval. Well, okay.

So we're calling it a shield carry. Got it. Got it. Yeah. Okay. We don't want to spoil it. Yeah. How does that compare?

So I got to ask now, Jakey Poo. How does running the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic compare to learning disc golf? Oh, they're both, both challenging for sure. Absolutely. But I would say that learning, learning disc golf came with a lot more cussing and a lot more frustration. Whereas, you know, running it, prepping a strong man for, you know running it prepping a strong man for you know all of these super dedicated super interested massonomics crew like that's just fun you know and you know because of the

way that tanner does the way that tanner works i'll let you in behind the curtain tanner likes to work on massonomics stuff at about 8 15 in the morning right as he gets to work you know he starts drinking his coffee at work and you know that's when he gets on the computer and so for the last week or so I mean I've also been an 8 15 at work you know working on these spreadsheets and um getting oh yeah we i got a big one going for the strongman show and it's it has been fun you know do have a good spreadsheet but yes disc golf is you know that i'm one of those people that became a disc golf fan in covid because that was like the one thing you could do outside where no one could tell you to

do any like tell you about it like I'm just gonna go to this park and walk around with my friends and throw these little circles at a chain basket and it became a thing that I did like almost every single day during COVID during at least the summer of the first summer of covid because i was working as a grad student then and so i couldn't really like we couldn't do any work but we were still getting paid through the school um and so we were just we would go do a little bit of online work that we could do and then we would just go disc golf every single day live in the dream then have i ever talked about um mike do you know what can jam is yeah yeah have ever talked about my can jam i have not oh i think so um so me and uh my friend jay he's not a discord crew member so we can't call him

big jay but um one day we were at my family reunion there was and my family reunions used to be gigantic and it would just be we called it the corn roast didn't even call it family reunion it was the corn roast and you had family and family adjacent people invited so my best friend jay was there my wife you know me and my brother's friends and his friends and somebody brought up can jam and just for the sake of listeners, I'll explain it. It's essentially horseshoes with frisbees. All right. So you have a cylinder with a slot. And you have two-person teams, one person on each side.

You have two of the cylinders. And one person throws, and they have a helper at the other side. So when you throw, the helper has to either hit the frisbee. Sorry, the frisbee is the horseshoe, into the top of the can and you get points if you hit the can without help you get extra points but if you get it in the slot you just win the game um my friend jay and i went undefeated for 43 rounds i am apparently just naturally very good at throwing frisbees to the point where the person that finally beat me came to my house because it was during it was like right when one of the covid like regulations lifted a little and you could have like an outdoor party of like a certain

amount of people because ontario went kind of weird for a while and you could have like an outdoor party of like a certain amount of people because Ontario went kind of weird for a while. And you could have like an outdoor party of a certain amount of people within a certain, they called it bubble, social bubble. And I was like, well, come on up. I've got a giant backyard. Let's do some can jam. And he came up and he looked at me. He's like, I'm beating you tonight. And I distinctly remember him yelling, why are you so good at throwing a frisbee?

I was like, I don't know. I never learned. So it's just fine that I saw the disc golf thing. And I was like, God, I want to throw Frisbees with Jake. I'm surprised that you've never disc golfed, Joey. You strike me as a type that would have partaked, at least. I don't like walking. I don't like walking. Is't like walking is it kind of i

mean is it as popular in canada though like i don't know if that's a good because because it's it's fucking huge down here i feel like every park every park has a fucking setup yeah it's i've seen it my buddy ross plays it he goes around and tries to do it like our our provincial parks and everything will have it um but i just i just never got into it and um i think one of the the first time we realized we were on a winning streak because it was a three-year winning streak uh because like obviously you're playing but then you're drinking and then you get too drunk to play and then like one of us is like i'm not gonna play but him and I together were undefeated for over 40 games. And I just, I think the second year, it made everybody so mad that we had never been

beaten or defeated. Like, um, no, the first year, sorry, we did a pushup for every game we won. So we ended up doing like hundreds of pushups. And then like, I think the last game we won, we did up doing like hundreds of push-ups and then like i think the last game we won we did like 50 push-ups each and then i got it in the slot in the second throw and it was like fuck now i have to do 51 push-ups and we just finished those 50 like it was really stupid and the second year i ended up showing up with balloons with our winning streak on it it said like like 32 and 0 and i just put them out the first time somebody was like yeah we'll beat you today and i was like yeah hold on i got something for you and i put out the balloons

and like it was just real arrogant and stupid over this game that doesn't matter but anyway frisbee talk huh well big jake i want to hear about your current uh job uh you uh you want to tell us about that yeah sure so i i'm like probably one of the few people i think that actually like work in the lifting realm i guess i, like, it seems like a lot of people, they have this, I'm not, and I'm not trying to say this in a negative way at all, but like, everyone has their normal person job, and then their lifting is, is their hobby, where like, I decided, you know, early in life, I was like, yeah, I want to make this my whole entire life and job and everything. So yeah, I work at a university. I am the

fitness and aquatics coordinator. So I'm in charge of all the personal, I have a staff of about 10 personal trainers, like kind of on the side within the facility, just because that's what I, I used to do that before I jumped into this role. And so that was just a good way for me to like, still get out on the floor, train clients, but do it in a way that I like to do it with athletes versus like, you know, your general population people that are usually coming for personal training. But yeah, since it's on a university campus, I mean, I'm around 18 to 23 year olds all day long um so when we taught if we ever want to

talk commercial gym chronicles i got some yeah you know you have uh there's there's broccoli heads everywhere even in south dakota i'm sure and it's uh 18 to 23 is their demographic that's for sure actually i do actually i want to hear two of your favorite commercial gym chronicle stories. Sure. My first one was that I just vividly remember this because I was working out and I kind of have this stance of when I'm working, if I'm in the building working out, I'm not on the clock and I'm not going to worry about rules. Unless it's like, you know, really egregious, like someone's going to hurt themselves or something like that. But if it's something minor, like I'll go find one of our staff members that is on staff,

get them to handle it. Or just, you know, they got a free pass while I was working out. But there was this one kid, this one time, it was like five in the morning I'm lifting. And there's this kid in the rack next to me and he's taking a Texas power bar and he's got it up against the rack and he's doing a scrape the rack press. And I would, you just rip in blue paint off with this power bar. And I walk over to him and I'm like, Hey man, are you going to pay for that?

Like pay for the, for us to repaint that. And he's like, what? I'm like, go use a Smith machine, man. Like get, get out of here. It'll do the same thing. Like, why are you trying to wreck? And I know it's because like they saw it on Instagram, some bodybuilder doing it. And it's because like they saw it on instagram some bodybuilder doing it and it's just like just just overhead press man like you're 160 pounds soaking wet like just just overhead press and you you'll be okay i promise that has me so pissed off like oh my god like i mean yeah the rack but like more that's like a fucking that's a $400 bar I was worried about the bar to be honest yeah

like what the fuck these any commercial gym bars probably anyway even if it's a Texas but yeah I get your point the rack you're destroying our fucking $2,000 rack because they're probably like a hammer it's probably not like a you know it's a it's a several

thousand dollar fucking commercial gym rack what the fuck we have like a big almost CrossFit style know it's a it's a several thousand dollar fucking commercial gym rack i'm like what the fuck yeah we have like a big uh almost crossfit style rig it's like you know eight squat racks and in one big apparatus and yeah so like and we are thank i'm so lucky that like the person that was before me he he was a big power lifter too and so he bought like eight texas power bars and like these kids they don't get it like they don't understand what got in sitting in their hand like i had some kid once tell me he's like you're lifting a lot of weight for even these crappy bars i'm like these are about the best bars you can get boy like you don't understand how good you have it like i know they're used abused because like

thousands of people are using them every day but come on man like i mean did did you did you break out the the tried and true you know in 1980 you know there was a you know i you know and and you know i i can see getting frustrated about that but I will tell you that somebody smarter than me once told me that a lot of the people that you meet in life have never had a leader. They've never had somebody to give them the proper direction. And the best thing you could be for that person is that person. Yeah. Right. So you see somebody doing that shit and it's so easy to be like, tell me.

But really really you come over there and go can i show you how to do this properly yeah right yeah and i know that i know that's probably what you would do like it's you know but that's honestly probably more of the stance i take more often and not even like to them but like just let them go because like i have other my other co-workers get way more frustrated about they're like this guy was doing this on the cable stack and i'm like yeah he's working out at 5 30 in the morning like yeah i guess we let him go because like he's not breaking any as long as as long as he's not like you know scraping paint off the rack if he's doing a dumb exercise

he's doing a dumb exercise you're doing a dumb exercise remember like like kids in university they went from being told that they have to ask permission to go to the bathroom yeah to suddenly you live on your own now figure it out go figure out the rest of your life and you know if you can be that i'm talking joey swall shit here like just like be the person that helps them but uh i heard was that was that a baby in the background oh yeah that's my i i wasn't sure if you guys would be able to hear it i could only hear it i picked up a little bit yeah oh it's fantastic how old how old yeah she is uh two months old so oh wow baby baby yeah so we're that's why i was like when keith first asked me to uh come on i was like uh maybe

like i want to i really do but i was like i got a two and a half year old and a two month old and i was like i props to my wife she gets all the love and adoration tonight because she put him to get put him to bed solo tonight and you know is out there dealing with a crying baby right now. Mine too. What's your wife's name? Abby. Abby. Thank you, Abby. What's your baby's name? I got Austin. Austin is my two-year-old girl and

Parker is the two-month-old girl. I have two as well. I have a four-year-old and a two-year-old and oran and saga so yeah no i can hear it and i was just like i hear baby is it mine like what do i do do i do i have to go do something here thank god that the two-year-old seems to have gone down pretty easily but you know two-month-old is a two-month-old so we're we're surviving through it yeah how dare you

put me down yeah i know the two month old struggle how dare you put me and my two-year-old is kind of like that now i got up in the middle of the night last night she was just like panicking and i thought because she won't sleep without my wife and my son won't sleep without me and it was like four in the morning and i just heard my daughter going mama mama mama mama but my wife has had a cough for the past couple of days so in my like stupid sleep brain who like I mentioned earlier is like not drinking as much anymore was like my wife is dead because my daughter is losing her mind sounds desperate and my wife isn't answering so like yeah yeah if you're ever wondering what what it's like to that's the most terrifying thought i've ever heard in my life yeah it sucks

i just got up and was like is everything okay and i heard go away i was like okay that's all i needed for real that's like me every time like the like monitor alarm goes off and she doesn't react i'm like oh you did it this time you you just forgot you you're awake not waking up this time like i'm like yeah it was that was the desperation in my daughter like mama mama mama when it turns out she just wanted to be breastfed and like no you're two we're weaning you off now and i was just like that desperation terrifies me anyway i just we had some notes about you love being a dad and i wanted to like talk about that because like it is my favorite thing in the world so yeah i can't talk to keith about cats because i'm not a cat person so i get to talk about that not everybody's a cat person not everybody's i know

actually we're learning from the discord cats are terrifying little monsters you shouldn't have oh they have their moments so big jake uh as far as being a dad the last few years has that helps you uh be a better director of the strongest cowboy strongman show oh um it didn't because she hadn't given birth at the time when i put on that strongman show she was like something you're actively doing still okay yo so the so the strongest cowboy show was uh a show i did in grad school when i lived when we lived lived down in Oklahoma. I lived at, we, I went to Oklahoma state. So boys that that's the mascot. So the strongest cowboy was a strong man show I put on down there. And my wife was, she would have been nine months pregnant when we put

that on. And like, I think she gave birth, she would have gave birth two weeks later after that show. And she ran scorers table. And at one point, like I was, I was MC on it and we had probably like 60 competitors there, a couple hundred people in the crowd. And I look over and she's just sprawled out on the ground because her folding chair snapped in half. I'm like, like mid like announcing, i'm like dead sprinting over there like what happened like oh my god and she laughed luckily she laughed it off and was fine but i was like oh my god this is this would be the thing that sets you off like you falling out of a folding chair is going to be the thing that breaks your water because that's your water and we're going to the hospital.

It's good stuff. All right. So I wasn't done talking about being a dad, but that's fine. That's fine. Finish it up. Finish. Finish. All right.

What what are you more excited to show Austin and Parker parker okay between let me find it let me find it between marvel between uh where is it you're not showing them south park that's not gonna end up in the question here um not for a few years at least did you already cross it out on me you dick i don't think not if you're talking about the media i'm just trying to fill up the unpaid and underrated with some of the stuff we don't need to get i actually i actually think i crossed it out and i'm just all right what are you blaming me did you hear that, listeners? Nobody crossed it out, actually. Nobody crossed it out. What are you more excited to show them?

Marvel, Star Wars, or how to get a good deal on Facebook Marketplace? Ooh, ooh. So while Marvel, my kids are, Austin is already a huge marvel fan um you know i don't know if you watch with your kids joey spidey and his amazing friends on disney plus but yeah like uh austin wanted to be green goblin for uh she loves bad guys she thinks they're so cool and like as a two-year-old you're like this is sweet but yeah she wanted to be green goblin we finally got her convinced to be ghost spider for uh halloween after like literally two months of her being nope i'm a green goblin i'm gonna be that guy i'm like okay but we couldn't find a costume that to make it work which was the tough part but yeah back to your originals i i i think finding a good facebook

marketplace has to be the right answer because that's you know that's a true life skill and that's what being a dad is all about i can teach you my hobbies and the things that i love that is marvel and star wars but teaching them a good life skill of how to haggle a a good facebook deal priceless yeah i've been i've been playing the new spider-man and oran he's four right so he's into it but like i can't play past a certain night time of night because he just won't he gets all riled up and starts like web swinging around the couch but he's so into into it and all that kind of stuff i I got him, I was dressed as Wolverine this Halloween. I got the yellow Wolverine

from the 90s and he was like, Daddy, what is that? What is that? So I showed him the 90s X-Men and that's all he wants to watch right now. He wants to watch 90s X-Men with Daddy and it's like, you know what, buddy? Yeah.

You're doing something you think is important and your your kid walks up and goes daddy can we watch x-men and you're like yeah yeah i don't care what else is going on i'm absolutely gonna put it down and come and watch x-men with you for 20 minutes absolutely absolutely 100 what is your favorite marvel going right now marvel favorite favorite. Anything, anything. What's it like? What's got you in the universe at the moment? Ooh.

Um, I guess I, cause I'm not really, I'm not a comic book guy. I, I'm purely like a millennial, like just cinematic. Yep.

I'm down. Yeah. Um, but I play this, I've been playing this, uh, mobile game called marvel strike force for probably five years so that's probably the most invested i get because then i get to see like

the other characters that i don't know about like that's where i get to be interested in these and then i go on like wikipedia they're like the synopsis of these characters that i've never even heard of like ever in my life like squirrel girl i'm like who the fuck is that and then i go and learn like you know she's out there being thanos in the comic books i'm like oh okay this girl's pretty badass but you know that's funny right now go ahead no i just because like the cinematic universe is you know and we're in phase five five and it's really wishy-washy right now i i don't know if it's the oversaturation or if it's the um just the quality that's coming out but there's

nothing that's really just like you know striking me deep like you know captain america winter soldier did like that was like oh this yeah this is what a superhero movie is supposed to be yeah i'm with you on that one the dc the dc universe had a game like strike force and actually strike force copied the dc one it was like dc legends i played that and i probably invested thousands of dollars in that game i loved that game discontinued october 31st they were like we're done we're not making it anymore you can't download it anymore you can't contribute like they just stopped making it but it was the same thing you would get this character and you'd be like okay i know a lot of dc but i've never heard of this so i'd have to go and

look it up and like suddenly it's like i'm gonna go and read a fucking comic book um so yeah we align there on that on that level i haven I started playing Strike Force, but it was just too similar to the one I was already playing that I couldn't invest in it. And then, yeah, the new Marvel stuff, Loki. I have this thing. Everybody likes to rag on Keith for his movie takes and all that shit. The moment you bring time lapse or time travel into something, I'm out.

I'm out. I'm out. I check out in seconds. You don't even finish season one of Loki? The entire fucking series of Loki is that. Season one of Loki is multiple universes, which I'm down for. Season two, they

do the time lapse or time travel bullshit where he's talking to himself. The moment it's one of those like he was behind himself the whole time whoa like that's such a shock it's not a shock it's stupid it's lazy and i check right out so yeah yeah so i'm actually not that into the new phase either yeah and i just feel like it the the ones that really got me like the movies like the multiverse of madness or like uh the new the third uh thor movie not the third one the fourth one love thunder like they were so cheesy and it was just like so off of like i know

marvel's more lighthearted than like dc is but like you turned it too far where it was just like so off of like i know marvel's more lighthearted than like dc is but like you turned it too far where it was just like that uh that meme that gets posted around that is like it's so dumb it's good and it's like no it's just dumb like yeah i i like i enjoy watching them because i watch movies for fun yeah but like yeah like logan is really the top tier marvel movie at the moment yeah and so we're gonna see what deadpool three is gonna do because hugh jackman's coming back they've got him in the yellow costume but really now i'm watching what dc is gonna do because um aquaman's terrible flash was not a great movie like the only thing that made that movie even watchable was all of the batman coming back as cameos yeah

all right we've got cloney at the end for about 30 seconds too yeah like the guy that ruined the batman franchise showed up yeah i like ge Clooney. He was a terrible Batman. He was the one that ruined that franchise. He was nipples Batman. Nobody cared. It's not his fault. But either way, it was fun to have him. They had all the other ones, but

that movie was terrible. So I haven't watched Blue Beetle yet. Blue Beetle is fucking shitty. I watched Blue Beetle a couple months ago. It was bad. I love... No, you hate everything. I love Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai's fucking awesome. But Miguel and fucking Blue Beetle

was just trash. It was such a fucking boring, stupid movie. Nobody believes you. You gave Snatch a 5? You gave Snatch a 5? I thought it was about something else. I've watched it 20 fucking something else. I've watched it 20 fucking years ago. I don't remember.

It was a lot of drugs and shit, though. The movie was amazing. I think it was very drug-related. I'm not big on fucking drugs, so I don't know. Gangsters? It wasn't drugs. I can't remember. I've dominated this enough. You guys go ahead.

I'm gonna so big jake i want to know about your historical wrestling career and how uh you managed to break your collarbone right at the beginning of it yeah so i decided like a wise guy to um go off for wrestling my junior year of high school. Um, so with no prior wrestling experience, um, go out for wrestling my junior year of high school. So I made it four days into practice, um, before, and the reason that this, I ended up breaking my collarbone, um, on the fourth day of practice was because we were co-opped with another school because the school that I was in was so small. It wasn't big enough.

Yeah. And the school that we were with had just gone to the state championship in football. And so all of their wrestlers were still like they got given the week off because state had been the week before practice was supposed to start. So I'm wrestling, like I was wrestling at like one 70 wrestling, the heavyweight who probably weighed like two 50, because that's all who was there for practice. And he bear hugs me, puts me down. And I, I snapped that collarbone into about 12 pieces um i got a plate and about eight screws in there um yeah so probably that's gonna be fun for overhead shit the rest of your life fuck i honestly uh it bothers me more when i bench press okay but it did take me a long time to uh yeah i got good i i have good overhead mobility i guess i

could see that yeah do you know do you have to like uh if you have a narrower versus wider uh stance or grip on your overhead do you notice that that like is affected by it at all the collarbone itself no not anymore i i mean for several years probably like my early college years of like heavy lifting there'd be times where like i could be like yep i can just feel this scar tissue just like in my ac joint but like that hurts to hear yeah i mean i'm that's like that was like 12 years ago at this point i think right yeah we're like that so like i i've basically worked through it so i i don't really see any lingering effects of it so then you were you would have been out that whole season for wrestling you end up going back out your senior year or did

you hang it up no i i hung it up for was a disappointment because my my dad is a huge wrestler my my brother who is like seven years younger than me he had already been wrestling when i went out he had probably only already been wrestling for like five six years because he started when he was like three years old and so he was my dad is like was ecstatic that I finally given in and become a wrestler and then here I go break my collarbone and never go back out but I do I do appreciate wrestling I love wrestling it just at that point like when i went out my senior year then i was like or didn't go out my senior year i was like i'm just over this and want to focus on others i got into lifting is actually what happened

i gotcha well this might not be as relevant as a segment but i'm going to play a quick game as uh has has he seen it We got a couple wrestling movies here. So two of the most famous wrestling movies that I could find and I like these are movies that I enjoy and I was like, oh, maybe I can throw a few more in there and then like to find a third, fourth or fifth like movie about amateur like high school

wrestling college or like like like Greco Roman wrestling is like they're all very niche to where like these two are pretty like mainstream. You might know them. Has he seen it? Vision Quest. An 80s movie. No. Matthew Modine.

Very good. There's some shit in it now that it's kind of like, oh, that's a little aggressive, but just in general, it's like a sports movie. If you're a sports movie fan in general, I very much recommend watching Vision Quest. I take that

with a grain of salt because everyone thinks I'm bad at rating movies, but everyone else is wrong. I'm accurate, so give that a shot as someone that has a wrestling history to some extent. If you don't know Vision Quest, I highly doubt you know this one unless you're more of a history buff. Are you familiar with Foxcatcher and the Foxcatcher Ranch and that whole?

OK, so there was like I think it was I can't think of a certain. But basically there was a millionaire, maybe a billionaire, something or other DuPont. And he was adamant that he wanted to have a big wrestling team for america so he he he bought he he brought in some of these like former college wrestlers that were like very good and tried to like have them like wrestle for him and like train other guys and he ended up going fucking crazy and killing one of the dudes like on his like big plot of land and there was there was a documentary about it and there's like a live action movie about it uh that actually had some like pretty famous people in it. I think... Who's the guy that plays the Hulk? Mark Ruffalo?

Mark Ruffalo. Yeah, and then Channing Tatum are both in that, I believe, if I can remember. So both good movies, completely different premises, but both are around wrestling. I'd be surprised if you said your brother's really interested in that. I'm curious, if you asked him, he'd probably seen both those

movies and your dad. Basically, in any relevant segment, you said your brother's really interesting i bet if you i'm curious if you asked him he's probably seen both those movies and your dad so yeah absolutely basically in in an irrelevant uh segment because you are not the wrestling fan you claim to be and just can i can i just move can i move this on from uh he poorly explains wrestling movies uh i mean if you would hit me with a has he seen it i i i am probably on the same level as tommy and that has seen it like especially especially as being like a 95 kid i oh yeah you're a baby you ask you ask me an 80s movie like oh god I'm not like us watching this like us watching a 70s movie I get it so I have two questions what the fuck did that

are you doing happy birthday Joey what the fuck your balloons from candy so cool I don't know how it happened I think that's something zoom's doing because I was listening to a podcast today uh vintage rich Rob was interviewing Grant from the strength co and I don't know how it happened. I think that's something Zoom's doing. Because I was listening to a podcast today. Vintage Ridge Rob was interviewing Grant from the Strength Co.

I saw that, yeah. And Grant had something coming up on his screen. It was like a thumbs up or something. But it was like an involuntary thing that Zoom was doing. Grant necessarily was doing it. So I'm curious. Well, just keep in mind. Why the fuck you just had balloons on your screen? Because down here we all float i mean i got two questions

who would win in a fight a jackrabbit or a coyote well as we saw this last weekend if you're a purveyor of lower level college football where the my alma alma mater beat the SDSU Jack rabbits beat the South Dakota coyotes. Pretty handedly. I would always, I'm always going to go with the Jack rabbit, the Jack rabbit. It's a fearsome competitor, especially nowadays. So I, yes, I, I don't care what nature says the jackrabbit's winning sorry so there you have it tanner okay um wood or metal for log press oh uh that's from that's from big hot big scottds. I love that I still call him that.

And then like we all do. I specifically put it in for that. Yeah, that's so funny. Joey's going to know what that is. Yeah, his wife called him that on the podcast. I was like, well, I'm going to, that's him forever now. So wood or metal? You know, honestly, I've never, I'm trying to remember.

I don't think i've ever lifted on a wooden one just because it's like not that common for a competition to have a wooden log i too many irregularities right like you couldn't really calibrate wood steve slater like makes them literally by hand so it's like yeah there's a company up here that makes them yeah it's like do i really want a wooden log for 300 when i can get the titan one for like 150 or something like that like yeah and like i i have like a i my dad and my dad's like a part-time woodworker guy so we we have like a wooden log like half built right now we just have we have to get like the metal parts like the handles and the the collars to put on it but yeah i think you'd have to go metal just because uh

getting a wood log it's going to be so tricky because you you could have like you you get this portion of a log but it could still be like one end of it is like heavier than the other just based on the density of the wood or you know so if you're not a guy that's like like steve slater that's you know into this knows what he's doing i feel like it it's got to be tough to you know make one and then also have one that's like a good quality that's like not gonna mess you up because i remember we the only time i would have ever had an opportunity to lift one was like one of the first South Dakota state strong man, like at the state fair that we,

we lifted at. And this guy, the guy that had was putting on that show made a wooden log. And like Tyler stone was probably the only guy that lifted it and it was like when i say like a log should be you know uniform like it had like well all the way through it because he like hand carved it and it was like full of these knots and i don't even know how he got it up onto his shoulders to do it because it was just like yeah it was rough a lot of calibration right like i think that uh i i think they're called like northern strong or something they've shown videos where they like they hang it and like if it's not the right way they have to start like shaving and like get it down to the exact place and that's yeah that's fucking insane yeah so yeah

i would definitely steal steal steal log all the way then all right i wonder if those are ever kept outside too like and it's absorbing water like it's not absorbing water equally throughout like the whole thing so even even like the water absorption is going to be to one side. You'd code it. You've had, you'd have to code it to me. And, and like most wood based doesn't absorb water in that sense.

I think there's like this thing where like saltwater doesn't fuck up wood. Like freshwater does like, yeah, you, I'm sure you would treat it. You wouldn't, you wouldn't, I know it's not going to rain, but like there's this this concept like you can still make it so that it doesn't like my deck is made

of wood and it's not deteriorating every day you're what my deck okay well i got one more for you and then we can probably get on to another little you know gadget here so uh one of the hosts wants to know about uh the larry the legend poster and how you make an appearance in it and it's hanging in the massonomics gym i want to hear about that yeah so this is it that's a great callback to let's hear it yeah so i would have been uh so that would have been larry dead lifting at probably, let's see the 2015 state fair strongman. So yeah, 2015, I want to say that that would be right years ago. Brown County.

So this one actually wouldn't have been the Brown County. This would have been the state fair that happens in Huron, which is the army of south dakota don't go don't go there a little stinky a little as uh as as judd who's ever played there because i that sounds like the right it's right up their alley i bet judd who's has opened for i i would guess they probably opened for a fair number of bands at the state fair but yeah that uh um that strongman show that was probably the first that was the first time i went and watched because like i had said earlier my grandpa would go to it every year and watch tanner go win it and so i went and finally watched it and i am so you can see me little tiny jake, probably weighing maybe 190 at that point, sitting in the background of that picture of Larry looking like a Greek god, just lifting.

But yeah, so, and I remember guys coming up to me after that one, like people that I knew that weren't lifting, like not Tanner, but like guys in the crowd being like, Oh, you, you're going to do it next year. And I was like, I'm not, no, that's not my thing. Like, cause at that point in my, cause I was just starting lifting. I was probably like two years into lifting. So I was still in like this, like major college gym, bro. Like I want to be a bodybuilder, but not actually be some triceps. So like, so like, I was like, ah, I'm not going to be that.

And by the next year I went and competed with them. So that's like the origin story of me becoming a strong man is going and watching Larry and Tanner and all the rest of those guys lift, lift. And as far as the banner, like you were just in mass economics gym one day and saw it and you're like, that's me in the fucking crowd kind of thing or. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome.

That's funny. Yeah, because I remember I like kind of like Grayson, like I just inconsistently would go to massonomics gym, you know, on those free day passes that Tanner is so kind with. And I just remember showing up one day and I'm like oh there's i made it i'm on the wall like and then being so pumped about it and then like a year later is when we had uh or like two years later probably would have been when we had like the 2018 strongman showdown like the red shirt year and there's a picture of me up there now like given a like a woo at the crowd um and so yeah i'm up there too i'm up there a couple times now but yeah that's the first one nice i am officially on the wall now um they didn't do the friday night picture but they did the saturday

post meet picture um but it's the one like there's multiple photos and like there's a couple like like the ones that my wife took or ones that I like got from other people. Cause it was like, we were all doing like a double bicep. Um, so like, there's some pictures that I have of that, like group photo where like, I'm actually like fully double bicep, but the one that like 99% of the people have my arms are like only halfway up. So I looked like a little fucking T-Rex, like, and you do like, I look completely like, I it's like all I see when I see

the picture, because I'm not actually flexing. It's just like, I'm mid-putting my arms up, and it's just like, what the fuck are my arms doing? So it's kind of like, it's bittersweet because I'm like, oh, that's cool. I'm literally going to be on a Masonomics gym wall forever. But I look like an asshole, so I don't know. I guess that's fitting.

I don't know if it looks like a duck. I said it was fitting, so yeah. I guess that's fitting. Well, if it looks like a duck. I said it was fitting. I gotcha. I wholeheartedly agree, though, that Tanner should get a picture of the Friday night lift or the Friday night pre-party because that picture to me

is the epitome of that weekend. That's them doing things differently than any other powerlifting meet. That's like so i would i would say if if i if it were me if i were if i were tanner and i was you know 10 feet taller and stronger i would put that picture in the fulfillment center and i would leave the gym one in the gym because i didn't lift at the i'm actually bummed i'm not in that picture because i was there for every event was there all day

i was there i was doing all that stuff but i was not in the one at the lift hard live easy but that's because that was the event and i didn't belong in that picture the friday night one i would say i'd tanner if you're listening maybe put that one in the fulfillment center because i think that one's the massonomics the podcast the discord the all the other stuff the gym one belongs in the gym that would be where i would put it but again i don't like i'm not tanner it only happens a couple times a week, Joey, but I full-heartedly agree with you on that. Alright. I think

it's time to move on. Been a hell of a conversation. Wow. Honestly, I was like, I don't know. I don't think I've had much talk with Jake and this has been fucking amazing. I do have to wrangle it in though,

because we got stuff to do. It's 1030. We're going on two hours already. I want to talk to you guys about obsidian pneumonia. I'm not going to talk too much about obsidian pneumonia. We've already had people doing sniffs on camera like twice now this week. Just keep in mind, we've got our code unpaid.

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They just did a huge sale. It was like 33% off or something like that. But I think that's done for now. So follow them on Instagram because you can get some really decent deals. If our code isn't what suits you, wait for those deals. Can't say enough about them. They're menthol from back in the day i remember i took that to like one of the first strongmans i ever did um down in texas and i remember handing it to a guy that i didn't even know and it hit him and he just like

about threw his neck out of place and he was like what the and i was like that's that menthol from obsidian and he was like okay I'm an obsidian guy now and I was like yeah good good at my first meet I think I had I brought my own because I just wasn't sure and I do remember handing it to a guy he's like yeah

sure I'll try it he goes Bob does his left he comes back to me and he's just like he looks like the Michael Jordan crying meme he's just like his eyes are shot and he's crying and he goes that really helped but i don't think i don't think i want that again and that was that was just super saiyan like it wasn't even nosebleed that's that's how i felt that uh the the lift started live easy i took it i took the like a brand new bottle of the custom stuff that they made yeah and i don't remember it was before my second or my third

squat but i hit it and i remember just screaming in the back i was i in the back room i was jeez like and then like two lifters after me here's jonathan on the platform just nose deep in it well he does i was like how dude i literally i think he's faking it he's breathing out or something like because he goes like like he must not be undue i don't know i've seen him do it a hundred times and he's like up there he's like licking the bottle or something like he's crazy with ammonia yeah i because i remember i didn't even go i didn't even say like good lift or anything i just went how the fuck do you do that man like that was that stuff is hurt i know the trick you know he just borrowed grayson's bottle that wasn't activated

so it was just all for show it was all it was all a ploy all right yeah go ahead big jake do you want to play a little game of unpaid or underrated as you mentioned you've All right. Yeah. Go ahead. Big Jake, do you want to play a little game of unpaid or underrated? As you mentioned, you've listened to multiple episodes this week. I don't need to go over the rules then, do I? No, I have, you know, I'm well over 400 episodes into, you know, overrated, underrated, unpaid or underrated. So, you know, I'm'm very i'm very ready to give you my brother on this so i'm going to stick with the whole stick yourself up your nose aspect for the first one here so unpaid or underrated lugging your nose when you jump into a swimming pool oh okay this

is so unpaid good thing thing that Joey's not here. Cause I can say, I don't know if Joey's a pro plugging your nose, but if you let your kids plug their nose, your kids are going to be soft. Just, just jump in the pool, figure out how to breathe. You're, you're going to be fine. So yeah, that nothing drives me up a wall more than seeing a kid go like this to jump in a body of water just come on being a being at the gym all day and like probably just glancing over at the pool here and there do you see adults do it too like or is it solely kids uh no i i

don't just because like a lot of the people that do utilize the pool are like older and like they're they're like walking in instead of like yeah just getting ready to do their laps and stuff all right so so joy uh he rated plugging your nose when jumping into the pool as unpaid i think a lot of people may be able to agree with that i don't know i don't have kids so i can't speak to that if i'm diving i don't plug but if i'm doing something stupid i'm plugging so if i'm going in like feet first i'm plugging up yeah no you gotta own it or at least know how to blow air out of your nose just if you're gonna do something stupid full send the stupid and just let that plug it up all. So where are we staying together at the Liptard Live Easy?

You and I are going to go stupid shit into the pool and see who comes up going. I have. So Big Eddie stayed out at Richmond Lake, which is shortly or like a little ways out of town. I have my grandparents have a cabin out there. We can go harass Big Eddie as he's at his airbnb we can stay out there yeah absolutely that's uh big eddie w for anyone not familiar uh all right so my second one here um i think you're gonna have the same answer but let's go ahead and give it a shot 10 pound weight plates oh uh actually super underrated no yeah even when they uh break your toe oh oh i didn't

so because that was good that was a good misdirect that was good well that was good because well the the caveat is to that is the one that broke my toe was actually 25 well abby she she also said that you only wrestled for three days not four days and to that is the one that broke my toe was actually a 25. Well, Abby, she also said that you only wrestled for three days, not four days, and a 10-pound plate. So then again, honestly, I'll refrain. It might not have been Abby because I did get data from like four people

and I don't highlight who it was. What are we, Big Math? Yeah, I know. Dropping a 25 on your foot. That would hurt would hurt a lot worse than a 10 fuck yeah so what what happened is i was my i was talking to my lifting buddy and i went to grab the 25 and it was like the the ones that have the grips on them like a yeah yeah and so i grabbed yeah and i grab it and I think that I'm grabbing a 25,

but there's a 35 behind it, and I grabbed that and just pulled. And so the 25 came off and just went straight down, snapped my big toe. Oh, I see. So you thought you were grabbing the 25, you grabbed the 35 behind it, pulled the 35 off, and oh, fuck, dude. Because that's like, you didn't even get grabbed the 35 behind it pulled the 35 off in oh fuck dude that because that's like if you you you didn't even get a chance to like see it happening no like just

you know sometimes like if you know you're about to get like punched in the face essentially you kind of like flinch you went from just shooting the shit and grab it thinking you're grabbing the right plate fuck that that hurts my foot thinking about fuck man yeah yeah i would say that so so let me change it then so so so 25 pound plates unpaid or underrated uh i'd have to i i think i'd have to go um unpaid on on the 25s just for their traumatic experience yeah the ptsd and you know kind of like how some people are very anti-35 we really could get uh to a 25 with a couple tens and a five um you know and like there's nothing you can do about a broken toe no you just it's just yours now for a bit and

that's like the funniest thing about that is like i went to the doctor um they took me to the doctor i go in there they get x-rays and i'm sitting in the like doctor's um the the room for like a half hour and then finally the doctor comes in he doesn't even like fully crack the door he just comes in like hey here's a boot throws it at me and shuts the door and i and i was like yeah like when do i when do i take it off and he goes when it stops hurting and then like shuts the door again i'm like okay broken toes are the stupidest thing there's nothing you can do it's just broken and you have to not break it again for a little bit like that's literally it somebody i one time i hit my toe so bad like there was just some and people like go to the doctor and

i was like why why and we have you know nationalized out there up here so it's not like i had to like worry about it but it was just like the doctor's just gonna go yeah that's broken oh good work bud so yeah so big jake i'm gonna hit you with my last one here unpaid or underrated chili and cinnamon rolls combined together so there was some discord talk about this after i already after i already had it written down and i was like oh i hope he doesn't weigh in too much damn it no and i i stayed away from it knowing that there was a good chance that this came up nice appreciate that so but yes it is extremely underrated.

Yeah. Chili and cinnamon rolls is, I wouldn't say it's the best thing ever because there's better things than chili and cinnamon rolls, but it is very good. And some people like, so the reason why this comes up is because I used to live in Oklahoma for a couple of years. And so living down in the South, we would, me and another buddy that was from Iowa, the one that gives me these beers, we would talk about things that we liked from the Midwest and that being one of them. And our boss who was like, Oklahoma, he's like, that's disgusting. Like you, no, you don't do that. And like, so we've been on this like multi-year thing of trying to convince him of

how this is like actually a legitimate like this is good this is going to be a fine food choice if you try it and he would be so adamant against it and i finally got him to change his mind because i was like dude this is the same thing as chicken and waffles like it's a savory thing with a sweet thing because you're putting maple syrup on it and like chicken and waffle and chicken and waffle is amazing and chili like yes i get it there are different vessels for this sweet and savory but the concept is still there and he finally went you know what jake you're right and you know i was like that's all i need that's all i need you go try it it changed your life cinnamon and chili are you on hardcore like

dipping the cinnamon roll in it or is it like a little bite of this a little bit of that or is it are you using cinnamon roll as a spoon basically this is important oh yeah you i mean if you want to eat it as a side piece that's fine but if you want to be true uh midwesterner you're you're giving it a good dunk for sure good to know alright well that is my three and I'm going to hand it off to my co-host Big Joey alright Tony Scott

they've got Subarus put in here unpaid or underrated Subarus but I read it as subarus i was like what the fuck is a subarus is it like a succubus um but i'm assuming it's the car subaru so unpaid or underrated subaru so this is this is the one that i think is going to cause some controversy in the oh i should have saved it for last but i just really wanted to last about i really wanted to laugh about subarus the subarus i have this theory that so people always talk about subarus being such a safe vehicle and it's because all of the people

that drive subarus drive like grandmas and hate at least in in my small area of the world in brookings south dakota of 25 000 people the people that drive subarus in my town are the slowest drivers they're the people that are going to sit at the stop at the four-way stop an an extra turn always. They're the ones that are going to take 10 seconds to get to cross the line when they're changing lanes. So I always anytime

I get frustrated, I get a little road rage in my town. I'm like, yep, it's a fucking Subaru. Of course it is. Very unpaid on the Subarus. I'm bummed that Keith wasn't here to hear me talk some

road rage talk. I was here the whole time. Yes, yeah, it's road rage talk. Everybody knows. Okay. This one's been here before. It's about a nice South Dakotan boy who's now canadian unpaid or underrated brock lesnar oh this is a tough one that you're a wrestler you're a lifter he's yeah he's from your area yep yeah um i i guess i'd have to go unpaid, but I'll,

I'll give my druthers on this one just because I do feel like in some aspects he could be underrated because I think he is a cool, like a cool guy did a lot of things. He grew up in a town that like 40 minutes from where, from Aberdeen. So like a small town kid goes, wins all these state championships goes. I think he won several national championships wrestling in Minnesota.

He was in NCAA. Yeah. So wins an NCAA championship. He's a killer in the ring for MMA. I mean, that's, that was about the right time for me to be into mma too because i remember him like i wanted i can't remember what fight it was but i remember him knocking someone out in about 15 seconds basically like in the first round and i remember going like yeah the coolest dude ever i mean what what do you say he went to the um he

was on the vikings practice squad or at least went to training camp for the minnesota vikings yeah training camp and now he lives up in the wilderness and just does cool shit and has like a big giant garage gym i think i believe i'm pretty sure he's got something sweet up there yeah i think he's in he's either in manitoba alberta or saskatchewan he's got something sweet up there. Yeah, I think he's either in Manitoba or Alberta or Saskatchewan. He's in one of those two, one of those three planes. Also, one of the top writers for his own character in WWE. He does most of his own booking, most of his own writing, and kills it every time he does.

Like, he just knows his own character. He knows his own physical stuff so like yeah i'd love to hear how you're gonna get to unpaid for this but yeah so i as a fellow south dakotan i feel like a lot of people are probably think of him very highly just because of that and all the great things that he has done so So in the sense of like, you know, you would probably say that like Dwayne The Rock Johnson is also unpaid just because he's so highly ranked. I would because he can't be underrated because he's so highly rated. I would have to go unpaid, I believe. That's interesting.

Yeah, I think I think we could talk about that a bit because The Rock is The Rock is an international universal star I'm talking from a South African very well rated Brock Lesnar is only known

in the strength sports world sure if I walk into a stranger I'm not seeing Brock Lesnar shirts on the strength sports world. Sure. If I walk into a stranger, I'm not seeing Brock Lesnar shirts on Fat Dads. What do you mean? If he's a WWE

superstar, you're definitely seeing it on Fat Dads. But I'm seeing a lot more Under Armour, Project Rock stuff. I think I don't disagree, but I think there's some druthers there that I would disagree with. I like it. It's not my job to do that.

Yeah. I use my druthers to counter-argument myself just because I don't fully agree with it either, but there are druthers. You travel along it, and you're just like, damn it, I got somewhere I didn't want to be. The only rule is you don't ride the line so why don't you go do that

alright last but not least unpaid or underrated strongman competitors who want to know every goddamn last detail of the events 10 months before ooh so while this

luckily no one's been too intense about this we did get into a little thing about the about the shield carry in the discord and i do appreciate i i think i'll have to go underrated because i appreciate a strongman show that gives out their um event details in advance i do appreciate it i think as a competitor myself it's good to know that stuff because if you haven't like say we threw in a tire flip and you haven't trained a tire flip at all like that's a dangerous move and so like and i think it shows poor planning if you don't have a solid idea of your events you know a good amount of time in in advance and you show like you have competitors show up the day of and you're like ah we're changing it to this and like to me that's that's putting out a poor product and that's you know not fair to the

competitor um it doesn't let them give the spectators that show up to show it their best the best show because they weren't able to like properly prepare for it so i think i'd have to go unpaid or underrated on it but if you get really annoying about it i'm just not gonna answer i know and then i know that there was one time on the podcast where somebody had complained that they didn't get the events i think it was either for the arnold or the shaw and i want to point out that you said it if you're not, you're not going to give the spectators a good show. I had never heard that perspective. I don't think I even considered that perspective.

I was always thinking about it from the athlete's point of view. So good work. Like that's honestly, that's so refreshing and amazing to hear because you're right. That's so refreshing and amazing to hear because you're right. Somebody walks in hesitant, hesitant to do the event because they haven't been training it. That's not going to be a good show. So good call on that one. Good call, man.

To me, it's like if you went to a powerlifting meet and then like you have all the top level powerlifters show up and then you're like everyone has to switch their deadlift stance. Because they don't know. Sumo only. We're going to get disqualified for cheating. Or like you make Dan Grigsby or Jamal have to go

pull conventional and they haven't trained for it. I mean, still they're going to put up a big number have to go pull conventional. It'd be like $750. They haven't trained for it. Still, they're going to put up a big number, but it's not $1,100. $992. Good call. I'm always very pro-spectator because

I've taken my wife to every single Strongman. She's been to over 20 events with um so like she never doesn't go because she's always afraid i'm gonna get hurt and she wants to make sure that there's someone there but um like when she has a bad experience at a show because like they didn't properly plan out like how the spectators are going to view it or like the show they didn't bring enough warm-up equipment so like the show lasts for eight hours like that doesn't make my wife have a good time at this and then it makes it harder for me to like be like hey babe i want to go do this strongman show and she's like another really another one like didn't

you just do one like 11 months ago you fucker yeah so like when a show is run really well and it's speedy competent um putting on something that's enjoyable to watch um from a event and athlete perspective um it makes it the experience so much better. So I'm always very pro-spectator when it comes to these shows. So you're not going to do any stone-throwing? No. I haven't. At the Lift Heart Live TV.

Did anyone like that? You talked about that. Yeah, I've talked about that before. With Colton. Because I was there there i was at the arnold and or caden depending on where you saw the episode title nice and yeah and steve was like oh this is what they're doing and i was like nah like i'm good i'll stick i'll stay here at the strength co booth so one of the state fair strongmans that we had that like me and the gym

crew did we had to do that exact event and it was i'm pretty sure it was at the same weight that those pro level strongmen did of like 100 pound like rock yeah we were six feet yeah yeah so like the like i remember the crowd being like cheering going crazy because it was like the first first first person went out there and literally threw it like four and a half feet and then went, oh, this is going to be lame. And we were all like, this is going to be really fucking stupid. And then

measuring in like one inch or two inch increments. Yeah, and so like you don't know who's winning. Yeah, and as a spectator you can't tell because you're like, oh good, that guy got it, a sea hare further than the last person. Yeah. Yeah, so that's where a good quality event with good event or good individual events it's important outstanding all right i think you passed unpaid and underrated despite all my interruptions

sorry about that um you you know you you you won all the marvels as if you will uh i do have one quick thing um one of your buddies again i think i'd have to go scour instagram uh i think it was that regardless he wanted to know about uh barbecue bottles in oklahoma city and a little incident you had yeah and if so okay tell the story then i have a caveat at the end yep sorry sure so uh for uh what would have been my 25th birthday i think would have been about that time um we went out to a bunch of breweries um in oklahoma city probably went to four or five of them and then we went to like the best barbecue spot in town and my buddy we were both you know me and my buddy and a couple other people were all pretty

drunk at that point my wife who was like six months pregnant i think yeah she would have been and so um we go to this barbecue place we're about to eat and i can't get the barbecue sauce come out of the bottle i I set it down, whatever. I'm like, fine. It's just like, you know, gummed up at the top. I leave it alone. I'm like, I'll just use a different one. And then like I look over and he's got that barbecue sauce on his thing.

And I'm like, oh, perfect. He got it unclocked. I go to take it and he, unbeknownst to me, had unscrewed the lid to pour it out and then just set it back on top. had unscrewed the lid to pour it out and then just set it back on top and so i went to go do it and i went like this with my filled like the silver tray that they give you at barbecue places filled it to the brim while being drunk as shit too yeah while being drunk so then after that like the server like we told her like the bottle like exploded she went and got me a new food very thankful for the server um we got myself cleaned up enough that we put me in the car we drove to a target bought me some new clothes and then finished up her night going to that's funny so yeah the only other caveat i would have had is like your buddy wasn't sure if you knew that it

was 100 his fault that he didn't put the cap on or not. Clearly you did. So yeah, that was, that was that. And yeah, I think, I think that closes out that segment.

Sorry. I, he was adamant that I kind of asked about that. So I just wanted to, I just wanted to, to, to, to,

to, to plug the barbecue sauce, if you will. I knew, I knew that Dayton would have to bring up some stupid story and that would be the one that he would most definitely want. All right. Well,

we are at that time where we allow the crew guests to ask the host anything he has on, you know, anything you have on the docket to ask Joy or I. Yeah. I, I did make a sticky note while i was at work yeah i'm prepared um i have well first i just wanted to we we briefly got we joey tried to talk star wars a little bit ago but we went into a marvel tangent but i did i was listening to it was either chris's episode i think because um you were talking about how you hadn't seen Andor yet, the TV show. He refused to watch it, I believe.

He started it and he gave up on it. Boring as shit. Boring as shit. I wanted to go a little Keith route on this, and I went and found all of the overall IMDb ratings of all of the Star Wars TV shows. And Andor is the second highest behind the mandalorian which we all know great show absolutely and or an 8.4 second highest rating uh out of all of the um star wars shows and i i can't disagree with you more that it is boring like sure maybe that first episode may be a little bit slow but this is my i'll go up on my soapbox that this is like the best it's easily the best

star wars tv show that there is and also it's it i think it's so important like such a good way for star wars to get into the community of non-Star Wars nerds because like it's just like Rogue One in the fact that you could watch Rogue One and just be like arbitrarily that's a good movie I don't have to know anything about Star Wars and I can go that's a pretty darn good movie and then when you put it into the Star Wars universe, you're like, that's even better. And that's where Andor is very similar in that vein. And then, so I really think that it's amazing. And who's the guy that plays Smeagol in Lord of the Rings? Shoot.

Me. Why can't I think of that? I can't even think of him I can picture him he's got Ulysses Klaw in the Black Panther movie why can't I think of that I'm looking it up

he has go ahead he has like a cameo in like the later episodes the two or three episodes in there. And those episodes are phenomenal because he puts on like an Oscar worthy performance as like a side character in that show. I, you got to watch it,

Joey. Can I ask a question? Yeah. Where's Obi-Wan fall on that list? Obi-Wan in my list. I wrote down all the ratings and i have to probably agree with them actually i disagree because obi-wan is the lowest rated one out of all of them and i loved the hell out of obi-wan so to me obi-wan is fan pandering to just the

all 10th degree of like this and don't get me wrong the Darth Vader Obi-Wan fight is amazing it's probably the best fight top three fight in Star Wars no doubt about it and it's phenomenal and it pulls on your heart when he he says

Anakin is dead like that you know that's emotional and amazing but the rest of the show is really like it really just messes with the continuity of the other TV episodes like that he talks to Luke at the end of the show

I'm like Luke didn't know who this crazy guy but you're gonna go hello there just so he could say the hello there thing and all the fans can go, you did the thing like that's stupid. Yeah. So in wrestling, we call that, um, we call that a work or marking.

Yeah. Right. So when somebody marks out to something, um, yeah. All right. I'll give it a try but like it was still fucking boring like I'm not I don't watch boring things on purpose I could pick up a book and be bored

it won't be it gets better and I think I think when you probably should truly give it another try is maybe when the second season comes out and you can maybe binge it because I feel like the second season is going to be much more action-packed because it's leading into Rogue One.

It's supposed to be a direct tie-in to how Rogue One. So I think... Yeah, you sound like somebody who's trying to convince me to go jogging. It sucks at first, but you just have to get through the terrible part and then eventually you'll like it. You said... I'm just teasing. I'm just teasing i'm just like i'm not not gonna

watch it same with the clone wars and and the thing is like i have enough superficial knowledge of star wars to talk to you guys about it but i'm not that sure like that into star wars i would call myself like yeah all right i brought up wrestling already like you have your you have your marks or the people that believe it's real you have your smart marks the people that know it's not real but still treat it like it is your casuals who just like tune in and out and all that like i would be a smart mark i would be that mid-level of like i know enough and i love watching it but like if it's boring i'm not gonna pay that much attention i can respect that for sure for with with and and you know i'm honestly more of a star trek fan but i don't have as much

knowledge of star trek because star trek doesn't have the years of lore sure that star wars has so yeah sure i mean i'll watch it eventually yeah i just i i had to throw it out there because you you had said it and i was like you know what that's my favorite one so you know i gotta root for the things you like you know just like just like keith being very adamant about his hatred of will ferrell like he you gotta stand by it, even if it's wrong. So, so was there a question there or just a request?

No, I just wanted to discuss that. Um, the request is to watch Andor. Got it. Well, I have a question for you then real quick. Um,

you said that you didn't rate Obi-Wan as the least. What do you rate as the least? Uh, Boba Fett. I was going to say it has to be both but yeah i agree not that boba fett's bad but it is bad compared yeah you know and like when you rank all five to me boba fett's the least enjoyable to me the boba the one issue like i liked it just as like where boba fett it was fun and like it was enjoyable that what they did in it but at the end of the

day like they were back at square one and so I was like this story didn't need to be told because they didn't change anything in like they're back at square one where they started of like they didn't want to be in charge of this thing and then they're fighting and then they're not in charge of this thing anymore and I'm like Boba fett was annoying because a like boba fett was the character every kid loved we knew nothing about him from those first like he was just the guy he would he captured on solo he's got the mask he's got that he was so badass that he died like just out of nowhere and then we're like so amped to bring him back and if you've been reading the books

and the comics you knew he you know what was coming you knew he survived and then they the best part of the show was when the fucking Mandalorian showed up it was Mandalorian adjacent yeah it's kind of carried the whole fucking

season best part of the whole fucking season. Best part of the whole season was Mando's here. So, yeah, I get it. Yeah. So. All right. Well, enough Star Wars talk. I do have actual questions for you.

Oh, OK. Let's hear. Do I pose this just because I know that the discord will probably get in on this one and have their own thoughts and opinions. But do you think that there's ever a, a number lifting like weight wise where you believe that you'll be satisfied with like total, a single lift? Do you think that there's ever going to be a number for you that you'd be like yeah i did pretty good kid in the moment like i i tell people all the time like i have a spreadsheet i literally track every single pr every single lift every single variation from fucking one rep up to 12

reps and literally fucking you know paul's not paul's close grip wide grip feet up fucking larson like everything is its own every single bar every single width every single grip on a bar is a completely different lift because i don't give a shit they're all five percent difference and that's fucking 20 30 pounds in some cases so uh if the question is am i satisfied with baby prs yes am i satisfied with where my strength level is as a, an adult male? You don't know. I could fucking would love to be a thou. I would love to be able to total 2000 pounds and be the strong one of the, you know, one of the strongest guys, but yeah, but that'll never be a thing. I am very happy every time I,

I get just excited getting a two and a half pound P fucking seven rep PR on a variation as I know. Okay. So not as excited, but like, that's a, that's a nine and hitting a single PR is a 10. So like, it's not that far off for me. Like,

cause every, I basically trained myself to get off on little baby PRS on variations and on every single rep. Because if I'm not like motivated by that, I'm not just going to go like, I have to have that motivation because I'm very goal driven i very much enjoy hitting little baby prs so i don't know if that answers the question or how you're proposing it but i love little little prs when i first learned deadlifting from steve big steve sorry from the discord group um i i've said it before like it was like i love doing

this i want to do this forever and ever and ever and then i think when i eventually ended up putting the deadlift platform in the backyard and my deadlift platform was three pieces of wood oh i went i went looked i went looked it was the piece of wood I stood on. And there was the pieces of wood that they, that the weights landed on. And I told myself my body weight, my goals, my condition, three plates is fine. If I ever get to that, I know I'm stronger than most average people. I can stop there. And then the answer was, no, you fucking can't like no you can't you get there and you go that kind of went pretty easy and at the time i wasn't even doing a program i was maxing out every

week right and that's like okay but like what if i added a couple like all right and then yeah and then and then you do 365 then you're like well now 405 is in there because like it's only 40 pounds my kid weighs 40 pounds i can do that and you just keep fucking going so um i think that i don't have a total or a goal for weight that i'm interested in stopping at i think think, um, uh, when I'm done paying for programming, when I'm done dedicating hours and hours to it. And when I'm tired is when I'm done.

Sure. Like I've, I think I've already expressed that. I think the lift hard, live easy will probably be my last lifting me because like, I'll be 40 next year and I'm tired and it's you know like i have a job and then and all these things but then at the same time like maybe i'll get there and go nah i could do that but i would say no there was but at the same time no because then i might want to do strongman

sure maybe i go and just start throwing logs and I may want to do Highland games. Like, no, I don't think there is an end goal to strength training because like you, your body can do so many things when you treat it. Well, right. And you know,

your incrementals, like Keith was saying, matter so much. I don't measure those incrementals like keith was saying matter so much i don't measure those incrementals like he does i don't have that kind of shit i'm happy he does but i don't but there's good like i'm done i'm done i'm tired i'm tired then somebody's like hey dude yeah you want to come do a deadlift competition and you're like fuck yeah i do like what so no yeah okay no no one more thing to that uh real quick so like i was just thinking about this uh so like as of now i don't care like i'm i mean i've been lifting from like 29 to 38 but once i'm like in my 40s and 50s i might start

like a whole new fucking column and be like these are my my PRS and my forties. These are my 40. I don't know. Like forties. I still should be as I should, I should still be as strong at 45 as I was 35, give or take, but like 50, like it's going to be hard to fucking like,

like my, my, my rep PRS ain't going to be the same at 50 fucking five as it was at 35. You know what I mean? So like at some point I think for my own mentality and my own ability to like get endorphins from just that uh, that like placebo effect of like, Oh, I'm stronger now than I was there.

Like, I'm going to have to like break it down by like masters, masters 55, you know, some, I'm going to have to do something where I am doing like an, an age division PR or something like in my own head, just to be like,

what I did at 60 is just as impressive as what I did at fucking 35, even though it's 100 pounds less like i have every i've ever lifted until i'm 80 90 years old yeah i i'm just saying like there might be a time where i i stopped trying to get stronger yeah but staying strong is different i had a guy today at my work ask me and he was telling me he's disabled he blah blah and he was like he was just shooting the shit with you, right? Like he wasn't, we were just chatting. He's known me for a couple of years.

And then I was like, you know, he's like, well, why do you do squats? Like, what does that accomplish? And I was like, cause when I'm 60, I want to get off the toilet. And he looked at me and he was like, you know, as somebody who's disabled, I wish I had thought like you at your age. Yeah. And that matters. So there might be a time where I don't want to keep getting stronger, but staying strong know as somebody who's disabled i wish i had thought like you at your age yeah and that matters so there might be a time where i don't want to keep getting stronger but staying strong

and using my strength might be you know where where i i end up yeah i only yeah and i i love that answer i think that's you know i think that's what all is inside all of us is like i got five more pounds i got two and a half more pounds that's what all is inside all of us is like i got five more pounds i got two and a half more pounds and so you'd never know where that limit is i've always told myself in my brain that if i ever deadlifted 700 pounds like on a straight bar normal like if i didn't hit a pr after that on deadlift i think i'd be be okay. And I sure, I say that in, I say that now I probably would be like, yeah, until it happens right now. I've thought that for a long time that like 700 pounds, I'm like, there, there are not that many people that do that. So like, if I did that,

I think I'd be satisfied. Doesn't mean I would stop trying or that I would stop strength training or anything along those lines. But I think that's a number I could look back on and be like, that was pretty good. Yeah. But you're also 20 years younger than me. Yeah. You might hit 700 and go like,

I got 705. Right. Like, yeah. You know, what's really impressive though, if you pull 700 pounds and you can fit into a medium shirt, that's,

that's pretty cool i mean it doesn't fit well but i mean it's it's on i don't we we don't see your nipples so at least has to be covering those we call that equipped yeah basically because there's so much tension on the shirt absolutely all right buddy you got you got one more for us yeah or two whatever you got it's only it's only two uh where are you at doesn't matter yeah i was hoping i was hoping that we weren't going to go so long because i was like ah i don't i don't want to be the guy that's going forever and then all of a sudden i just hit a record ask your question all right um, just as a easy one.

What is your favorite non lifting related item in your gym? Stereo system, having like tower speakers and rear channels and actually having like a, like I can, I try not to now, especially with the cats and shit and with my wife being home a lot, but like being able to just fucking crank my music and not having it coming from a stupid fucking Bluetooth speaker or something like, because my gym is like 700 square foot. So like actually being able to have

speakers in like four separate areas, that makes such a big difference. And being able to just go over and like crank it for a big lift and then turn it right back down, like that's the hands down the stereo system, 100%. Joey? My drink spotter.

Ah, I don't, I don't have a lot of table space. I don't have a lot of like spaces to put things down. The drink spotter genuinely helps with my phone and my drink. I have two of them, right? I have the,

the, the light and the regular, and it honestly is the drink spotter because I use it every time I'm down there. Yeah, I think I use it every time I'm down there. Yeah, I think I get it. It is probably the drink spotter is probably number two on my list. Number one would probably be my I have a magnetic kitchen timer. And that is the thing that especially as a guy that does conjugate stuff, does a lot of dynamic work like you have to be on a timer to keep it real

and also like just to make sure that you're not being the asshole that like because i can do it sitting in the home gym like just jamming to music just sitting there thinking about the next set and all of a sudden i'm like oh i've been sitting here for five minutes like yep but timer you know i'm like that keeps me keeps me honest and you know i think it helps me work a little bit harder you know keeps keeps me going still yeah juggernaut um every time there's an ios update juggernaut does this thing where if you're listening to music and have juggernaut going chad wesley smith will interrupt you and go 30 seconds remain. And then 10 seconds remain. But every time he does it, your music stops and you have to go and open the music app and start it again.

And I've gone to them and been like, you need to make it so I don't have to hear that. Like you need to make it so that if I have the app open, I don't have to hear his voice and they just aren't listening it's probably my biggest frustration because then i have to wait until the next update from juggernaut to fix it so i started just using my apple watch so instead of using the timer built into juggernaut i'll just tell my apple watch set a timer for two minutes so i don't have the 30 10 and start your next set countdown but i also don't have to get up and turn my music back on every 10 seconds

under the one minute like that's a fucking nightmare yeah that would drive me insane absolutely i i hate just to tell you to tell everybody listening and i'm sorry to interrupt you i want that ability to mute chad wesley smith so bad because if you're like amping up to a big go like you've got like rp 10 to set or two reps and you're like fuck it like you've got that song going and you're going and then suddenly you just hear start your next set and your music mutes for a second you're out of the zone so if anybody from juggernauts listening give me the ability to mute that that or i mean i guess a workaround hack is you know hook up the ipod touch to your you know your your speaker and you're gonna get the old ipod yep get the old ipod touch well and that'll that'll just go back to mine it's all like i don't hook up my phone to my stereo system i have a i have a tablet that just lives 24 7 plugged into

it with an aux cord never comes out of the gym like that is like spot just open up spotify i have two one on six playlist but one of them's a work phone and i want nothing to do with my personal life on that phone. I gave my kid my iPad. So I don't have that. I'd have to go and buy another fucking device. But like, god damn. It's gotta... Not to have Chad bug you. It might be worth the $100 or whatever you can get a

shitty phone for. Honestly, I'd stop using Juggernaut before I buy another tablet. If they don't fix that issue, I'll just start doing my own programming at this rate. Just run with the Jackal program. I hear that's pretty famous. Is that something you ever ran, Jake? Did you ever get a template of the Jackal?

Was it Jackal, whatever the acronym after the number after it was? Jack 3D? The good old days but no i never ran jackals just because like it was way at the time when they when all those gym guys were using it jackals was like so low volume compared to like what i was doing as a gym bro and you know as a 19 20 year old kid in a college setting, like I was lifting for three hours doing, you know, tons and tons and tons of volume. I was like, yeah, I'm not doing that. So that passed me.

Well, speaking of three hours, I think it's time, guys, that we reined this in a bit. Do you have one more question, Jake? Was there one you really wanted to put towards us? Really? I got I got one more. I got an FMK for both of you. We'll try and keep it quick.

60 seconds or less, Keith. Joey, FMK, video games, cigars, alcohol. All right. Kill alcohol. We've already talked about that. Fox cigars because I love them but I don't need them everyday

um but if I could just sit and play video games all the time I would but only certain ones like if they just re-released us like if they did a new Spider-Man or Assassin's Creed all the time those um but yeah alcohol's on it's way out anyway cigars I can just do what i want so it would

have to be you know video games yeah i just i was uh scrolling through your instagram trying to find something that i could talk about and i was like god damn it there are a lot of selfies with cigars yeah so put it in there somewhere yeah all right i right. I love cigars. FMK for Keith would be in the specialty bar category. FMK, trap bar, SSB, Duffalo. Mary Duffalo, buck SSB, kill trap bar. I think that's a right one to go about that, yeah. Yeah, because I can, to me, I'll take a Duffalo over an SSB all day

solely because I can Duffalo, I could, yeah, you know, I think I've talked about it before, so this is one of those other episodes because we're on the three-hour mark, but yeah, Duffalo is 100% my go-to special lead bar. I could not live without it yeah all right that

that is all i have for you then um i will i'm i have a couple other questions but for the sake of passing them i'll pass them on to someone else because they're more generic you know it's uh you know i suppose you can always just post them in the Discord too. That would be fun. Yeah. And it's like, no offense. We want to hear them. No, no. Three hours is so long. As a guy that way, I told my wife, I was like, I really hope that I am like a two-hour podcast. Just because I know the guys listening to it.

And then also myself, I'm getting up at 4.30 to go do my lift tomorrow morning. So I'm like, yeah, I'm ready to go. All right. Well, let's round it in. You can hear us. Bring this one in for a landing. Yeah, we're at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. Website is unpaidinternpodcast.com.

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