Unpaid And Underrated - 027 : Cooter Juice

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know Big Jen. They dive right into great topics like gift giving, soap, traveling, being a CRÜ mom, and chocolate chip placement. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @getstrongjen24 (https://www.instagram.com/getstrongjen24/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jen.

off to an amazing start everybody welcome to the unpaid and underrated uh the podcast about crew for crew by crew um i am joey i've been here before you know know my voice. You know my name. I am joined by Big Keith. Howdy. And Big Jen, fellow collaborator. Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm doing good.

How are you guys? Not so bad. All right. I didn't say what episode this is. I'm fairly certain it's like episode 13. Like they're all just Time is a flat circle. They're just meshing into each other. I'm sure somebody's going to correct me

because that's what you guys love to do. I'm curious. Do you think they all sound the same? Every episode sounds the same. I hope they don't. It's inevitable that they do, though. My eyes. I'm going to be jabbing at my eye for this entire time both my kids

have a pink eye oh no so my oldest brought it into the house because he's in school my youngest has it and I don't have it but psychosomatically I've got it in every eye and so just like I'm jabbing at this

eye all night because i'm just like it's clearly pink there's no pink there's no nothing there's no swelling or anything but like it hurts anyway that's the second time i heard that word today i was listening to another podcast don't tell anybody but pink guy no psychosomatic yeah yeah that's also from the band that nobody in the discord seems to have heard of um prodigy oh i know prodigy which is insane that i know it psychosomatic product they're really fast right yeah psychosomatic addict insane um we brought it up one time and every keith and the guest at the time were just like nope not a clue and yeah that's prodigy there the the singer's dead as every story ever

goes once you turn 30 every story ends with yeah well that guy's dead now or he got sober and he's like 60 because who was it uh i saw something on instagram the other day some was it nikki sticks or something it was like celebrating 22 years sober some side of those some you know but some very famous like 80s rocker is celebrating 20 some years of sobriety and that seems like the way it goes either they either die or they just you know find some sobriety of some sort and get their shit together that's almost like addiction is is bad for you anyway speaking of that what are you guys drinking i uh got the old poland springs established in 1845 bottle of water i had i had a

nice drink ready to go and i sat it down somewhere and god damn it i don't know where it is so i just grabbed a bottle of water off my nightstand you'll knock maybe the cat's got it. He'll knock it over in the gym later. For sure. I'm drinking a water. He just clued in. Yeah, yeah. I was late to that party. Sorry, Jen. What kind of water?

You got anything fancy? I literally have my emotional support Bubba kegg and i'm drinking my water and so i actually want to talk about that just a second because i think it's funny that tanner is like the cheapest ass person ever but yet he's a la croix fan and so for me i've never had a problem drinking just plain water so i can't justify spending money on sparkly bubbly water you're good with the plain ones i am definitely in this case yes good i got something special for today because i saw the box and i bought it uh this is the um the michael buble so they've actually even um crossed out the y and put an e it's called mary berry buble and it's painted up like a christmas sweater um i've had

a couple sips already i've no clue what's in this i'm just gonna go with cherry cola but um part of me wants to say there's cranberry in there somewhere like a little bit of spiced cranberry or sprite as as keith would say. It all tastes the same. Ginger ale. Sprite ginger ale. Ginger ale adjacent. Yeah, exactly. I do like the cans. It is very fancy. It's delicious. It's not as good as the

cranberry ginger ale PC, but it's pretty good. I think this is more up my life Sally than it is mine. But I do love Michael Bublé. It even says ho-ho on the tab. The tab is purple. And it says ho-ho on it, which is just hilarious to me.

Because in Canada, I don't know if you have it in the States, Michael Bublé does a Christmas special every year. And it's comedy-based, of course. And it's sketch-based, whatever. That he sings his songs because he's Michael Bublé and has the voice voice of an angel and uh yeah so this is all pretty funny so this is a pretty deep level canadian can here nice how many how many canadian listeners do we have like three yeah i'm not i wasn't busting but i'm very curious like do we know how many like canadians actually listen so i i know other than Morgan.

Yeah, I know. I know Morgan listens. Steve listens. Okay. So two. Yeah. Scantz is three.

Scantz is listening. That's probably about it. A lot of the Canadians have gotten quiet. If you are a, you know, you consider yourself a Canadian and you do listen to this podcast, shoot us a message, let us know, say something to Discord. I'm very curious. Even if it's three months from now that you're here in the episode, as it kind of tends to be. It's a regular basis with my buddy Chris. Like he's very busy, but he does a loyal, he's a loyal listener, but he's just like once behind like he he referenced something i don't remember what the joke was but it was something that we had literally talked about at least

four or five weeks ago and i was like wow okay oh like i kind of remember what you're talking about but catch up buddy but uh no and then uh my buddy luke who's in there now who uh is finally in the discord uh i mentioned him on like episode five or six and like six, and he just now got to listen to that episode. That's cool, though. That means people are actually going through the backlog. I don't know if they're just cherry-picking episodes or if they're actually just starting going through, but we appreciate you guys and all our listeners. Thank you. It's kind of hard to keep up when we keep doing three-hour episodes.

Yeah. Ain't nobody got time for that. I know. That's very true. Sure. I blame the guests for being so good though keep the conversation going yeah it's like a compliment right heath what's next uh i want to know what you're wearing buddy it's i said i just see a salmon t-shirt top i don't know what you're wearing oh yeah this is the electric diner one i won this in a competition it's a local restaurant okay yeah i've been known the guys for a while they've opened multiple restaurants i've been following them for a bit and then just on instagram one day i won a random drawing so i have a t-shirt from them and then that that's not the number one

number two brown water restaurant that's something different no that guy's gone that actually i think the building's been raised and everything he's gone but no these guys um actually funny story about these guys um so they opened a barbecue restaurant in downtown where i live where i used to live so i used to go there all the time because they had like eight hour smoked wings they were delicious chicken wings so i'd be there as much as i could uh and without knowing it at first i look like the owner he's also got a big red beard and he dressed like me and everything. But I would go at night and he would only be there during the day. So anytime I would be there at night, I'd scare the crap out of all the staff. Because they would just catch me out of the corner of their eye. And that was actually really funny. So one day I finally had to meet him and we just kind of hit it off from there right and it was pretty funny there um but yeah that is really good i like that story what about you jen what you wearing tonight um i'm wearing two things because it's super cold

in my office so i am wearing the varsity script sweatshirt or i should say hoodless coat but underneath i'm wearing the og blue ribbon power lifter because that was my original purchase oh nice hell yeah throwback harkins back there you go um i'm rocking out the uh the lift hard live easy classic who's sitting on top of the dresser i was like oh there we go that would work perfect it's a good one all right anybody get a chance watching youtube this week uh tanner's video hit this afternoon that i've been i've been anxiously anticipating because i knew i was going to have some issues with it and i was uh proven right so did anybody have a chance to watch that i did nice i did too um i kind of agree because like I don't I started wearing them

because I thought you were supposed to and then I stopped wearing them and then my MCL was like well I'm a quivering idiot so whenever I squat you're going to fall over unless I get some support so now I have to wear them

I think kinetic tape would also fix that problem but I don't think i can wear kinetic tape to a meet so sleeves it is makes sense yeah what about you jen so for me i actually did my first meet so everything up until my first meet i've never worn knee sleeves and i remember checking in my gear and the guy specifically said where's your knee sleeves like don't have them and he I think put it in my head that I was wrong because I didn't have my knee sleeves so then I started after that I started wearing them and now it's I'm kind of like Joey where it's just a habit and I feel like they keep me warm so i thought i thought the video made sense because

honestly i could probably go without them but now it's just a habit yeah before i got injured i i don't think i needed them but like i said i stopped wearing them for a little bit and then yeah i got i got injured it's just not pleasant to lift without support of some sort. Yeah, I would say if we're basing it off of the clickbait thumbnail, I 100% disagree. Like, like, I will never agree with someone saying these sleeves are overrated. Tanner's video and the words he actually said, I agree with for the most part, you know, like I because he did with the caveat of like, if you if you if you have knee issues and wearing them helps where, you know, that sentiment alone, like I can't not wear knee sleeves really. Like I've, I can, I can, I could maybe do some like up to 50% without knee sleeves if I'm doing like a high volume or a volume day or something, but it's like, I don't do those

very often. And I just, to me, the, the the idea like waiting to your top set to put your knee sleeves on too is pretty much not a thing because my sleeves aren't aren't going up my leg after i'm sweaty like that's impossible so i they're either on at the barbell or they're not pretty much i'm gonna wear them 95 of the time uh but as far as the whole the new age every broccoli head buying the new fucking sleeve that is extra thick and extra denser and gets you one more pound. It only costs $275 this time. I don't know.

I wore Mark Bell's strong sleeves for probably almost seven, eight years. Who? Yeah, that fucking turd. Have you noticed I do that every time you bring him up? Every episode somebody brings them up i go who but uh i've been on spds the last probably two years and oh i love those like yeah i'm one i've got my spds yeah or i'm gonna stick with the regular spds too because i don't like change so like it was a big deal to go from strong sleeves to spd but uh now that i'm already now that i'm

accustomed and i know exactly how my spds feel i know like how to get them right and everything like i don't want to buy the the the the denser version or buy someone else's denser version just to get everyone i've talked to that wears those say they pretty much can only wear them for like the top set or they're just extremely painful or they got to get cut out of them and i'm like that doesn't sound fun like but at that point that's equipped lifting like i i never it never occurred to me to put on sleeves to help add a few pounds i always did it for support like i just don't want to die or hurt myself doing the weight i'm doing and so it never occurred to me that like well if they were a little tighter i'd

have a little more just wear wraps yeah just like i do have both um but i have a7s because and the reason i went with a7s is just because i could get black on black i'm maybe a little ocd on certain things and i didn't like branding so now i have both versions the and i wear probably the the lighter version 90% of the time and then on my big heavy days I'll wear with or the other ones those different ones now I think that's more like are they noticeably different too like can you feel like an extra like five percent pop out of the bottom kind of I really do and so I feel like that's why I said almost what Tanner said in the video where you know if you I don't I don't, I don't know if you're training, he said something about training without sleeves and then when you go back to sleeves. So

for me wearing my light ones and then going to my heavy ones on my heavy day, either it could be totally mental, but no, that makes sense. It's my good day. I feel like there's a lot of people that will like before they had the option for these like super bougie expensive extra thick sleeves basically what you would do is just train in your regular pair and then right before the meet switch into a new pair like you maybe your last couple top sets uh like maybe like take two or three maybe even one or two squat sessions in like your brand new sleeves or even have like i think at one point i had i had my meat sleeves that i basically wore for like two sessions before the meet and then like the the you know warm-ups and the attempts at the

meet and then they went back in a bag and they didn't come out for six months until my next meet so yeah i definitely agree with all that so it's one of those things where you can just ride the line i guess at what point and like this is a thing i've been thinking about because there's a meet in in february i was thinking of signing up for at what point does powerlifting stop being about strength and start being about how to game the rules to get the best results and like i just i just a thing i've been knowing i've been seeing increasingly is you know if, if I switch my sleeves up, I'll get an extra 1% on lift day. Oh, if I wear this suit, I can get some extra weight or, you know, my singlet adds a little tightness so I can do. And it's like, just go and lift shit.

I mean, I think I could be wrong and I'm down to be wrong because maybe, you know, all sports are about that. to be wrong because maybe you know all sports are about that but i get the i went to that deadlift competition and guys were weighing in to the 200 pound class at 199.5 and then they were outlifting people by 200 pounds and it's like because there's cash prizes right so like but at what point are you actually that strong because you're not strong in your own weight class you just cut weight to beat the people smaller than you so i don't like for me i just there's got to be a certain level where this is no longer about how much you can lift if you study the mechanics of your body study the you know your food and all that and it's just about gaming the system to beat the people smaller than you to you're going to your power lifting meet for the sole purpose of doing 90 to get on the books

rather than show how strong you are and for me i i guess i'm old i sound so old now in my day it wasn't even my day i've done two but like god i just keep hearing this like just change up your equipment and add some extra one percent go shut up go lift it grip it and rip it shut up so i have uh super strong women in my area who i'm friends with by the way um that are in my age group so for me it's a little bit easier to just let it all go because they're so much stronger than i am in master class and i just i'm not going to hit those records anyway so i just do it for me and if it's if i get another couple pounds every meet great but that's i think that's way more rewarding i think that's way more

interesting than you know i weighed in at 5.5 pounds under the limit and i beat all this guy smaller than me good what dude like come on yeah i personally only care about my numbers at a meet like if i place great if i don't place i mean that sucks like i don't it'll really suck with the 90 lifter meet this coming then in 2024 because that that what that's like a third less chance you're gonna medal from if you were there last year but like whatever like i mean that'll suck not to get a medal potentially but i'm going to be in masters the year after that there's the likelihood there's gonna be three masters like in that same weight class like i don't know you don't think like the older you get the less likelihood to keep people in your

age division so but that's that's the one meet keith where it doesn't matter yeah no i don't fuck you go in in total 250 pounds pounds we're still going to be thrilled you showed up yep yeah right like that's that's the lift hard live easy it's that's the one where i would argue doesn't matter what you lift as long as you show up and i might have to uh i got some medical issues going on um that i'm i've been even following on instagram obviously if you're listening this should probably do uh i haven't backspotted in about two months uh a couple months ago I noticed a pretty substantial lump on the back of my neck right around c7 uh and it's essentially right where the bar is on high bar so just above where it sits low bar but right right in the dead center of the high bar um and I had really aggravated it

and it like swelled up and got really nasty and it took me a while to get in to see my primary uh and then he was like yeah i think it's a cyst or a lipoma you know go see a surgeon basically i was like fuck so two months later i finally saw the surgeon yesterday and they're he's looking at it and feeling around and poking and prodding it and he's like yeah i don't think it's a cyst or a lipoma i think it's just uh repeated trauma from basically weight training so and i'm like okay well what do we do and he's like nothing i can't operate there's there's absolutely there's absolutely nothing i can do because i don't know what's in there because it's not a cyst and it's not a lipoma so it's not a build-up it's not nothing i can go in and cut out and it's like literally right on your fucking like cervical or

you know your spine so he's like wait three months it's still there get imaging so yeah i guess i'll keep front squatting i think i'm going to try to introduce low bar squatting again um if i can keep the bar underneath of it and keep it not aggravated because i guess my logic is if i can still squat and not aggravate it because when it's aggravated it fuck it is brutal like i the last time i did a back squat is when i i upset the tumor or not a tumor the it's not the tumor that was uh you know so well last time yeah the last time i back squatted is when it happened and it just fucking hurt so bad so dang so when you get to see the like so so like see yesterday was the was the first time i had saw the surgeon and he was just

like yeah give me i really don't want to do anything with it right now give me like so three months essentially from yesterday if it's still there and hasn't like decreased uh the hills have sent me to imaging but even then it's like they don't know what it is like it could be something in there with like fucking fingers going everywhere or it could be nothing like like he said he thinks it's a conjoined twin like yeah i don't fucking know but they are the irony is like my wife literally did have a tumor on her neck a couple inches above where mine is and she had to have like life-altering surgery and hasn't been able to live since so yeah oh yeah no i'm going through my head i was like i think it i i i believe no it probably is some kind of like

but like it's weird that it's just like i don't know if i had it this part of life easy like because i was going only low bar going into meat prep so it only happened when i went high bar so like what did i do like did i do because i think i did like a few weeks of like higher rep high bar work so that bar doing like six eight rep sets with the bar just kind of bouncing like a little higher a lot higher on my neck i don't fucking know but it's it's inevitably it's inevitably just you're calling to um climb a bell tower yeah no because i'm a fucking no so when she first saw it there is something i'm trying to get it back to silly goose i'm sorry there's like a hunch well yeah we're we we're, we're, we're about to, you know, go into our game. We have this game.

Wait, I do feel you Keith though. Cause I, I would be scared. At least you can still do something. So we, I literally just came from a work event and they were, they were golfing on a simulator and they're like, Hey, Jen, you want to do it? I no and well why not because i haven't warmed up if i swing really hard at golf club really hard probably gonna pull something then i won't be able to lift and like i'm out i don't i don't want to do it that's my one absolutely one thing that keeps me going i need i need those four or five hours a week to like just not fucking go postal so

yes but speaking of going post so we had a little joey and cody uh first blood part two uh you guys you guys went at it again i i can't even remember what it was now i know when i typed this out a couple days ago it was funny as shit but i know no i just hack you again i just don't like bullies guys i just don't like bullies and like it's his second round and he comes in he just says something stupid and i respond to something flipping and then he's like just attacked and he was like you can't bench and you wear nail polish and i was just like oh i know what type of guy you are and at that point he's an unserious person so i just went after him And I didn't go after him personally. I just let him know he's a bad person.

I literally just let, like I said, he called me a weirdo with black nails. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm the weirdo. No, not the guy that came onto a meme page, saw people having fun, and was like, not on my watch. And then just started saying mean shit to strangers. No, that's normal behavior, dude. Like, i'm the weirdo sure and then he like got in an argument with dan bell and tried to start telling dan that he can't lift and squat to death yeah yeah notice he didn't say shit to huck finn right didn't say

anything to him so just as soon as he went to the nail polish i was like yeah i know what kind of dude you are and you're unserious. You're a bully. I'm not having any of it. But I'm not going to stoop to your level. I'm just going to remind you that you are morally a reprehensible human. And get off Masonomics page, loser. Yeah, that's certainly my go-to, is just to remind people, you're letting us down.

You're not. I'm not going to attack you. people like you're letting us down like you're not like i'm not gonna like attack you like i the only thing i even said to him because the first round he came on and um he said something and in the discord i was like it's always locked accounts and then i went and looked and of fucking course he was a locked account so i responded to him on the first one and was like of course you're a locked account so he unlocked his account to prove me wrong but then you just kind of see that he's a short dude who sumo deadlifts like pretty okay weight but like nothing that he should be bragging or teasing other people about so when i went back on and i was like, oh, man, because he locked his account again on the second round.

And that's when I was like, oh, man, like I was really enjoying your 600 pound sumo deadlift. Is that what got you to the Arnold? And that's when he decided he was like, oh, no, it's because you're weird. I'm like, yeah, sure. But no, fuck that guy. I don't like bullies. I don't like bullies. Never have.

He claimed that his name wasn't his government name but like i did a little like googling deep dive i think you even mentioned it too like there is a thing with that name that comes up as like a freshman wrestler that like never really did anything but like the picture looked pretty fucking similar it did that dude and i'm like there's no way that's not you and that means that's your real name and you don't exist on open power lifting so what the fuck name did you use at the meet or are you just a complete blind sack of shit so because either way i think we've given him enough fucking clout so uh did you add something about no filming and gyms you want to talk about yeah because somebody mentioned it in the discord yeah i think that was uh

mabel wasn't it yeah that their gym doesn't allow them to film yeah and uh good i'm here for it ban tripods like do you see the the amount of good content that comes from people filming in the gym versus the amount of absolute dummy bullshit from wannabe influencers i would just if i owned a gym i'd be like no filming show up and work out or go home. Just because of all the negative stuff that you see. And I know that sometimes it's highlighted, like that negative stuff. But yeah, I just also have no patience for influencers. So I was wondering what you guys think of that.

Like, I don't work out in a commercial gym. So I don't know how you guys would feel about that. But I filmed in my commercial gym, but I was always just one of those, like, my there and if somebody walked by you're just like cool somebody walked by like i'm not gonna cause a fuss i'm not filming my ass i'm filming my lift so i can watch it later to make sure i have proper you know rom and stuff like that so yeah just wondering what you guys think kate you want to go uh sure uh i've trained at commercial let's see so my my lifting history was training in a commercial gym up until the home gym so like five or six years there but I was never really doing any power lifting so I definitely never recorded and I want to say I didn't even have a smartphone so it was moot at that point but it's uh but when I do do when I do

I regularly do train in commercial gyms when I'm on the road so say 15 times a year max uh and i try to record at least my top set when i'm there but it's always difficult because i'm not bringing my tripod so then i'm like setting up on a water bottle and shit and then people walk in front of it all the time and it's like like yeah it sucks but whatever um but as far as like the whole culture of like basically what joey swole calls out god i fucking hate those people and it's like it's both sexes. It's the girls getting all upset, thinking that the guys are doing something wrong

when they're not, and vice versa. And then just, like, the dude the other day, the one I saw on Moseflow was a while ago, but like, you've been on the deadlift jack for,

you've been on the deadlift platform for a fucking hour. But he slapped that kid. Oh, yeah. He smacked him in his fucking head and then just proceeded to, like, yell at him for an hour. And the kid just didn't even,

like, lose his shit, which I think almost anybody else would have. So, kudos to that kid. But, I don't know. That's kind of off the track of recording. I don't know. I can't say I'm neutral because I definitely will always record my top

sets in the gym. If somebody told you you couldn't, if you went to a commercial gym and you stood up to your camera and somebody walked by and was like, oh hey man, you couldn't if you went to a commercial gym and they and you set up your camera and somebody walked by and was like oh hey man like you can't you can't film here like would you cry about it um in the aspect of me only being now on you know if it's only going to be a handful of times a year i would just deal with it if it was my gym and i didn't have a home gym i'd have to find a different gym because i couldn't not have lifting videos like partially

because i want my coach to see my lifting videos critique them to somewhat but also like the fuck's point i have an instagram if you can't post your lifting videos you can post your food videos well you can just you could just have an instagram for the sole purpose of leaving mean comments on other people's instagrams yeah And then you run into me. I know it just sucks that there's just certain people that ruin it for everybody else because I think maybe it was Big Claire or like I've been in her shoes where you have a remote coach

and you're uploading your videos to your app. And so I would be respectful. So if someone did come along, I wouldn't video or want them in my video. I mean, not want them in my video. I mean, if they didn't want to be in my video, I'd be respectful of that. But yeah, there's got to be a way. There's, you know, how many millions of remote relationships between a powerlifter and a coach. There's got to be a way to send your information. between a power lifter and a coach and there's got to be a way to send your information so i would probably be in keith camp where i'd have to go find a new gym you know where it was acceptable

in some cases when you just don't have that opportunity like we have a commercial gym in my town and the next closest town you know that i could get one is an hour away so i don't know i and i see that i definitely see that sense of it and i i'm not usually looking at it from that perspective i'm usually looking at it because i just despise fitfluencers uh so that's how i'm looking at is i'm seeing these people that are just like i was filming my butt doing back day and you walked through it and now i'm mad and it's like yeah i posted this thing today and it's it's been getting a lot of um there's a page called influencers in the wild and it's just like people filming influencers who are filming themselves and this one is like

oh i gotta follow that oh it's so fun it's like when you see them on the beach with their butt out of the water and like they're like you know their videos all like edited and shiny but when you see them filming it they look like losers because they're like at a crowded beach like trying to like make sure people don't walk through their camera and today was this one where this girl was like walking uh slow motion between horses and then one of the horses plowed into her and i just put the comment like watching influencers eat shit is my favorite shout in freud and that's that's just that's the perspective i'm coming from is like just i can't i love that right i think that's in everything though so there's just always going to be assholes that are

ruining it for everybody no matter what it is it doesn't have to be videoing in a gym it could be whatever it is and it's got to be some asshole that has to fuck it up okay keith you want to move on to rate last week's episode yeah so we are going to switch this up a little bit we're gonna retire at least temporarily you know for now we're going to retire the jd powers and associates and we're going to switch over to uh massonomics gym ipod touches so on a scale of one to five or you know zero to five if you really don't like them on the massonomics ipod touches what did you guys think about last week's podcast episode then sure um i'm so happy that i got paz uh podcast to talk about because he was one of the best guests that we've had in a long time he was so freaking funny but even leading up to that

so even the recap on brian and cody i was dying talking about brian i was dying because i was remembering it because i was there as it happened right because i think even tommy so i think maybe a couple episodes tommy talked about how they poorly describe or describe memes on a podcast so you literally talk about it oh my gosh I do that all the time and I I loved that but then he was just again describing the Brian memes and my favorite one was from one of the Davids where it was the Vince McMahon one and that was the crying Vince McMahon the crying video David got me with that one it was so great I had to show that one to my husband and explain the situation but um also the sorry real quick the when they got to pawn they were talking about how do you eat potatoes in ireland he said that's racist yeah i got my good freaking about fucking

died and then the over and under was amazing and the irish goodbye and him just like throwing his sister under the bus about how she always irish goodbyes but then he's like well technically it's just a goodbye at that point so for those reasons i'm gonna give it five massonomics gym ipad touches uh i'll go because uh five five you're right um even i was explaining i was describing it to morgan and just his liberal use of the word cunt and i was just like she was like am i gonna have to listen to this episode and i was like yes yes and he just like but also like listening to it and trying not to is it it's probably a canadian thing i've heard it's a canadian thing trying not to match his accent so i don't know if that's an american thing but in

canada when somebody speaks to you with an accent if you listen to it long enough you start like hearing in their accent and then doing it back to them and it's like kind of offensive but yeah i can see that being a little insulting yeah but it's like a thing that your brain does i guess it's just a canadian i think it's everybody yeah is everybody okay because like yeah i just every for the next 20 minutes everything was just yeah you're fucking calling like it was just so yeah when his kid showed up that was really funny too but i do i do because they were doing what they're doing sorry uh weren't they doing something wasn't he asking him something somewhat

pretty vulgar like right in front of yeah i can't remember exactly what it was but tanner was like oh what the fuck was it i can't remember now but yeah sorry you're right he did and the delivery of that's racist because it was just so like like when he's like do irish people eat potatoes and he kind of it felt like he leaned back from the microphone and he was just so like like when he's like do irish people eat potatoes and he kind of it felt like he leaned back from the microphone and he's just like that's racist and it is so definitely definitely five i'm glad pa chose us chose massonomics to finally do a podcast and i hope he's not disappointed the next time he does one and it's nothing like that right absolutely i bet the video would have been great on that too

like i mean i don't i uh i didn't uh i missed last week's recording or at least most of it so i didn't uh was actually able to listen to the entire thing monday morning on my drive to work uh to the job site that is so it was all so those the full episodes that i can listen to are always a hair more enjoyable because it's like okay i'm not like breaking it up between like the 45 minutes and then listening to the interview later so but yeah that dude was funny as shit i don't i think i had i previously followed him but i didn't really know him it's like just one of those like oh we have like you know a hundred a hundred of my friends follow you i'm gonna follow you kind of thing but uh yeah he was fucking hysterical so i was waiting for him to get super pissed off

with the irish car bomb thing too uh just because like that's like the ira and shit's like really it was like probably over there and like it like wasn't something they probably make jokes about uh but uh all in all yeah the fact that he said 375 times it's hysterical i was just like oh i love this. It was one of the better episodes I've heard, probably. It might be the episode of the year, honestly. It was that enjoyable. Is your name Tanner?

Is that a name? Is that a name over there? Like, one in a hundred, you probably get two Tanners. Yeah, so definitely one of the better yep sorry yes i'm oh i was gonna i want to touch on something that was like you you guys had it in your episode this week and so did massonomics maybe but talking about the shield carry i run

a note i wanted to talk about that because i was literally screaming at your podcast this Tuesday. It's a freaking bean. It has to be a bean, right? Because he kept saying it's cool. It's cool. That would be. I don't know how you carry it. Because he did call it a shield, not a hoof of steel. Well, so Jake did say it was a base.

So it could be a bag. He said it was a Joseful. And then I was like, well, he did that, and then I asked him, I thought those all had to be the same size, because he said we're not sure about the complications, the words, and then I was like,

then he said, no, no, no, we're calling it a shield. That's the only thing I remember from that episode. I was exhausted. We didn't get your rating,ith so on a scale of zero to five massonomics gym ipod touches as someone who's never had an ipod i'm not really familiar you know i went from flip phone to iphone never had an ipod but uh we'll go ahead and give it five this week you know i'm not really sure where that helps where that ranks uh but you know with five ipod touches i'm sorry to big kevin who has to start a new spreadsheet now because i don't know that five ipod touches correlates with

the 580 power associates or not but i don't let us know buddy for years carried two things i carried a phone and an ipod yeah and then at one point my friend like dropped the most money in the world to buy i think it was an iphone 4 or like, but this is way back in the day. And we were like, buddy, like you have all of those components. He's like, yeah, but now I don't have to carry one. And that was like the smartest thing anybody said to me, because I'm all about space saving technology. Like, that's why I'm not a record guy.

All my CDs are in a book and I have Apple music stream. I'm all about just the least possible amount of space. So that's, I had, I had the clicky wheel one. I had the shuffle, the little mini one, which I lost on a St.

Patrick's day. That's a fun story. Um, I, when I lived downtown, it was right when I first met Morgan, uh, she came and met me.

I was at the Rebels Rock. Which was an Irish pub. Owned by. A retired. Irish police woman. So it was like every stereotype you could think of. But she made the best. Fish and chips.

The best. And I went there. Because a friend of mine was playing. It was just the perfect storm. And a couple days later. I was like I can friend of mine was playing. Like, it was just the perfect storm. And a couple of days later, I was like, I can't find my iPod. So I ended up having to buy another one at that rate. The following year, I pulled out my St. Patrick shirt, which was a green button-up shirt that I had that was absolutely gorgeous. And I checked the pocket, and there's my fucking iPod.

And the best part is I didn't even watch that. I must've just hung it up and forgot about it. But that was, that was that St. Patrick's story. Did you, did you guys see the meme going around this week about the why Gen X is so pissed off all the time? And it was because we've had to go through so many trends, transitions of music. So I went from my box of cassettes to my book of CDs to all the stuff.

It was great. And we just came full circle and Jen just explained a meme to us. No, that is funny, though. a meme to us. No, that is funny, though, because I want to see what have I had. Tape sets, CDs, and then burnt CDs, and then

I think I did a shitty plug-in flash drive MP3 player thing, and then right to an iPhone, I guess. Yeah. I would give anything to have all my tapes back. I had cds and then i went electronic and then i had a car that had a cassette player so i actually went back to cassettes because all the hipsters started making cassettes and i was like well that's convenient because

that's all i have because at the time i was using one of those things that was a cassette with a wire that you could plug into the auxiliary of my CD player yeah and it was a shitty quality and so yeah when they started making cassettes again I went back to cassettes yeah that's a core memory for me I remember getting my first CD and I was just turning 16 and they were starting to become popular and the same thing like you'd try to get the stabilizer to make your cd not skip because you had to have like the tape stuck into the tape deck and then you have your cd player on your dash or whatever yeah

that's aging me all right big joe you got a one uh topic here when i hit before we get into the sponsor yeah and it's a bit of a sponsor read it's just an opportunity for me to kind of blow some smoke up tanner's ass and um some of you might not know and don't read the name of it because i'm going to be as diplomatic as i can here uh there was another discord that some of us had joined uh that was kind of massonomics adjacent and um essentially we ended up sending somebody some money for some a product five or six months ago and then that person has ghosted us ever since and i just want to say uh tanner messaged me recently and and kind of tasked me with reaching out to some of the members that tanner's actually going to hook us up with

something on behalf of massonomics because he says that he kind of feels a lot of us trusted that person because of massonomics so i just want to put it out there that like being crew we all have a good time we all that like being crew we all have a good time we all have a silly time we all have a fun time but these are good people these are good people we're working with they attract good people i just wanted to just put it out there and you know i'm reaching out to some of these people and they're all a little suspicious of why i'm talking to them and asking them like hey what's your t-shirt size how much money did you send and they're like, why?

Like, were you a part of it? So some of them, like, kind of were suspicious. But just know that, like, it was all Tanner put me up to it. He just didn't want to be kind of in charge of it. And it was really cool. So I thought that would just lead best into what Big Jen is about to say. Oh, boy. All all right you guys okay so for my sponsor read i decided to write a poem i went back to like my elementary junior high days um you know the poems where you like write the word vertically and then you use the letters to make

the poem oh hell yeah okay so that's just keep that in mind it's massonomics are the are the beginning letter of each line so here we go okay i called it ode to massonomics massonomics oh how we love thee all the memes podcast episodes and beer parody supporting members continue growing one might say exponentially sorry except for brian he unfollowed as they made it so easy every sparkling water earning jd for a cool, crispy crack. Niche stories of stealing toilet paper and old days at the Y really harkens back. Overpriced shorts may send us all straight to the slums. Maybe not those who are still good with the plain ones. If you're a silly goose who likes lifting hard, living easy, and podcasts about nothing, come join the crew we'll accept you

with open arms and take you under our wing simply grab a spicy water and a chicken bake it's all you need to bring well done hell yeah hell yeah all right well god that's been a bit of a serious episode like we've had like two like like like me praising Tanner and you talking about your neck thing. So let's get into some silly business. I want to get, should we get our guests on the horn? Yeah. We got to kick all these listeners out. And we can see if we can get her on the horn. Well, you saw, you saw Scott joined for a second.

Yeah. It was like, it threw me off. Cause it was like, if anyone listening, like if I had a little stumble in my, you know, my in my medical story, Scott kind of logged in to the live recording. Heard you were being a serious goose and then was like, fuck this, I'm out. Yeah, sure. Totally ruined those stories. The orange glazed me, so yeah.

Good. All right. Big Jen, is that you? It's me. I'm so happy to be here, guys. And you can hear us? Everything's okay? Can hear you. All right. Big Jen, is that you? It's me. I'm so happy to be here, guys. And you can hear us? Everything's okay? I can hear you. All right. Well, welcome to the Unpaid and Underrated.

So excited. I think Scott dropped in because him and I are buddies, so he's probably just going to give us a nod. Absolutely. No, it was the timing for me that was more fun than anything else we don't care when people you know pop pop in and out it's just gonna throw me off so i wasn't trying to throw him under the bus or anything well jen uh number one question pretty much asking everybody i'm sure you were waiting for this what brought you to massonomics yeah i i'm gonna say two things actually so wait i think i was on the massami's journey back when I was a little, little girl, because my grandparents lived next to this family and they had a djinn who lived next to them. We played together all the time. So since she was a little bit younger, her name was Little Djinn. And of course, that meant i was big jen so i was destined to find mass eventually she's the chosen one

but seriously though um when i was actually in my commercial gym days i saw this I had was doing classes and I kind of had to outgrown them and started doing some stuff on my own and this really strong girl came in one day and her and I started you know we befriended each other and she's like hey you should check out hybrid and so I checked out hybrid and started doing that and through that and through Instagram, I found Big Lou. And of course, Big Lou and I became buddies. And he rocks the beer parody all the time. So when I saw the PBR shirt, I had to have it. And so once I got the shirt, it was all downhill. I started the podcast.

I did everything. So I actually started listening to the podcast then and listened to the new ones. And then until the next new one would come out, I would continue to listen to the podcast then and listen to the new ones and then during until the new one next new one would come out I would continue to listen to the backlog so it took me quite a while and that's how I found them Big Blue of course so what uh what that's like circa 18 1920 where you at on that oh yeah it was it was in 2019 ish so some of the first podcasts i listened to were um oh my gosh i'm gonna forget their names they were back to back the food guys um one is the guy doing trying to lift 800 bench 800 um help me out

well it was td smash was second but the other one that's trying to bench 800 oh wow yeah oh that's bugging me uh it doesn't matter but my first like couple of my first episodes and them talking about food talk and food hacks that like oh yeah the fast food chains and stuff got me got me sucked in and then i spent all of 2020 basically i walk a lot so i listened to the backlog why i went for my walks nice so you are one of the uh few in the crew that see the value in listening to the entire backlog something everyone knows i'm a little stickler for but uh you know they each their own it's cool though because like they've evolved like so at that time too it's kind of weird like so you and i were in

the same boat as far as like found it like whatever how you know three quarters of the way through their career and then listened live every week but then also went back and caught episode one like 200 or to catch up kind of thing uh it was just because sometimes it's like oh well they're really acting different or they stay like why are they this reference doesn't make any sense to the episode i just listened to i know i had to know the reference i couldn't like my ocd wouldn't let me not know the references but also i am a little weird because i did them backwards so I listened from good ones to not so good ones and that actually was the one of the first times I reached out to Tanner was because he I got to his episode where he did a sleep study and of course I was listening backwards so I knew that the one I had just

listened to he didn't tell us what the what the results are so you that guy i reached out and i said what the hell like you didn't even tell us what happened to your sleep study so so just so i try like i think um so you so say you the first episode you listened to was 200 then you went to 199 198 197 that's that that might be a first i don't know anyone else has done that that's crazy yeah that would be very interesting because they would like regress almost but at least that way there's no spoiler I mean everything's almost spoiler free at that point but that's very cool I'm glad you found that and that you're here with us tonight.

Me too, for sure. So in that tenure, have you been able to claim victories on any of the mass atomic contests over the years? Because it sounds like you probably entered the majority of them. I've entered all of them. There you go. The first one was I was still in the commercial gym and they were doing the what gets you hyped up for a deadlift. And so I remember I wanted to be one of the first people to put the video in. So I I went and bought a hot apple pie from McDonald's.

I had I had I had a shirt and Tanner's I wrote on the sack like Tanner sack. Like I went and made this whole scene and I was doing it at a commercial gym and I remember them talking that was one of the first times they talked about me on the podcast because they're like she has raised the bar and then everybody like totally started kicking butt but anyway I've never actually won i've only came i've always been a bridesmaid so always get kind of a side prize which is which is okay at least i'm still relevant well speaking of that were you the first chocolate chip i mean maybe not plus the moms okay yeah yeah okay i guess they count but they're not crew are they

dude that's where it gets gray like is crew anyone that just like financially supports to me crew is if you don't have your supporting membership coming out of your credit card every week are you crew because i don't know because there's a lot of guys at the gym that like like like there's multiple people that we met that are like friends with tommy and tanner or relatives but like they're not are they crew because they're jason you know or like even megan you know she yeah i don't technically would, but she's not in the crew. But I'm number 22 on my card, so I'm sure I'm probably one of the first chips, for sure, at least on the card camera. I can imagine.

If anyone listening has Big Jen beat as a cookie, let us know. Chocolate chip. I saw it here. It says we're the first cookie. I was like, we're all the cookie, Keith. Oh, yeah. So now people explain references to Keith time. Because, yeah, no, good call. I'm fucking tired, man.

Oh, my God, me too. Four of them wake-ups can go to hell. Don't you guys fall asleep on me? No, no, no. You're good I got angry that I messed up the fucking note I have um so I got the Dim Mac Redux

from Obsidian and um apparently it's like nose bleach and Dim Mac mixed so I took it down to Steve's because we did the garage gym together at Steve's house and I first opened it there I thought about bringing it down to steve's because we did the garage gym together at steve's house and i first opened it there i thought about bringing it up to like like help me snap out of whatever's going on for this podcast but i can't handle that shit more than like once every couple of days i did it today

for rpe 10 squats it sucks like it's like nose bleach was harsh but i could handle it and this stuff you get too close and suddenly your brain's like i want out like your brain just comes out of your nose so i guess that's our second sponsor read i'm just going to include that as our second sponsor try that dim acridux it'll fuck up your life yeah like i don't want to i want to read I got a I want to read redirect for 60 seconds tell a little story so um dude to to harken back to the video in the gym more or less I forgot to fucking video my goddamn 505 pound trap bar deadlift the other day it was the most way I've ever pulled in my life and like I'm so fucking mad like so it didn't happen yeah it never happened well it once when he said twice worse specifically was for the garage gym competition too so then I't happen yeah it never happened well it once when he said twice worse specifically

was for the garage gym competition too so then i couldn't put it towards my thick and you know my fake total for that and shit so i'm just like i was like are you fucking kidding me because like i like 470 was chipping a pr by like 10 pounds or something for you know that that for a deadlift for that deadlift and i think at that point outside of like uh a really really high rack pull that was the most weight i've ever physically picked up of like at any height uh and then 505 beat my heaviest rack pull even which was like like like a foot higher than where my trap bar was at why didn't you just do it again oh i fucking tried and like it didn't fucking budge because it was like the 470 already i like borderline blew my wall it sounds like it was easy and you could have just done it again yeah it was like all i had in me yeah and then i tried 505 again 10 minutes later and i think it came a fucking an inch i i'd be

giving myself too much credit if i say it came off an inch it broke the floor barely and then i was just like yeah i'm good i've already done like four maximum effort lifts. I'm done. So here's what you got to do next time. Just grab it and stand up. Yeah, I'll try. Yeah, easy. It's easy. There's one thing that I say to my coworkers all the time, because I'm the manager.

So whenever they try and give me excuses, I look them dead in the face and say, I believe you. And they know that it's so utterly sarcastic and that's just what i wanted to say to you when you were like oh i did 505 forgot to record it i believe you that's right my the worst thing was like my my coach was here too so i mean i guess worse than like my coach physically saw it so i didn't have to send him the video but i was so mad when i went to my phone and then i was like I kept looking at my photo up because sometimes if your phone's like almost full

of storage like it won't show up until you delete some shit and then it sometimes will come back and I'm like yeah no it's just fucking never been recorded so mad so sorry to steal Jin's spotlight just get back to the internet good thing we brought a guest in and who is the guest is it uh chiquita gin hannah is that it did i say

that right yeah it's chiquita gin hannah it sounds like chiquita banana right yeah right that's what i gathered that uh came from an old buddy of mine um still calls me that honestly but um he threw in the chiquita i had friends that just my name was my maiden name was hannah and so everybody called me jinhanna but it was always more so just one word janana he threw in the he threw in the chiquita so that's where that came from. Yeah, that's true. Well, speaking of throwing stuff around, I hear whenever you, you know, that you like to throw slaps around anytime you're walking down, you know,

hardware stores and you see a bag of dirt or grass seed or mulch, you just have to give it a big old smack on the ass. Is that a thing? But don't you? Probably. Who does it? It was noteworthy that one of your...

It was noteworthy enough that it was a thing that someone wanted us to talk about. That's all. I don't even know who would say that, except for maybe my husband. I love it. Do you think it's an OCD thing? Like it just has to be done? Well, especially if it's something you did once, and then it's like, oh, I did it twice, and then it's an OCD thing? Like it just has to be done. Well, especially if it's something you did once

and then it's like, oh, I gotta do it twice. And then it's just like... So it's not stuff you're specifically buying. It's just like, you'll just walk down the aisle and tap, tap, tap. Yeah, you gotta give a little bit of... So my wife is like that with pumpkins. Tap, tap. She got my kid doing it.

And I noticed my ex... So this... I don't't know maybe it's a lady thing lady women thing whatever um she would have to feel clothes even if she had no intention of buying it she would just walk by rub the fabric and then continue walking and one day i was like why you don't even what color was that did you even see what color it was when you touched it and then she was like no but I just had to touch it and like I was just like okay so I mean okay I'm kind of with her on that I do like that but I hardware stores are the best when they have like bags 50 50 pound bags of dog

food bird seed foil or soil whatever it is fertilizer you gotta give it a big old slap yay we're going through our notes like a lot of this is just us reading and hoping something like flows something in my life is interesting there's there's a lot it's just it's always hard to take a paragraph and put it into like five words that we can just use as like oh I'm going to talk about this now so a little while ago we talked about the butter sculptures

in Iowa now we talked about those at at the state fair I think is how i heard about them yeah yeah but you've had photography displayed at the iowa fair tell me about that yeah tell me about that i sound like such a nerd tell me about that it is really cool i was um i walk around this world and i think i see things in pictures. I love photography. So it was probably when my son was, I don't know, we were, I think we were going to San Francisco,

we were getting ready to go to San Francisco. He might've been five. So, and he's 16 now. So 11 years ago or so, my husband finally bought me a kind of a starter kit camera. So I actually got to start to learn the craft of photography. And I self-taught all the things, read all the books I could read, watched videos, all the things. So I got pretty good at it. In fact, actually, I know people online can't see it, but this picture back here is one of mine. And I have a big one over here too on the wall, but I just love photography. So every year that I can, it's been a couple of years since I've, it seems like COVID ruined everything because they didn't do it the COVID year. But each year you can submit four photos and you put them in some categories and yeah, I've got a couple

displayed. I actually won an award the last time I did it. So it's just a fun hobby. Now, is that picture black and white or is your entire background set to black and white? No, that picture. This room, I kind of have it as my quote unquote photography room. So everything in it is black and white just for photography. photography rooms everything in it is black and white just for photography so for those of you can't see it the curtains are black and white and I think there's like a thing under the picture that looks really black and white so it kind of looks like there's a filter set behind you there's actually a bed back like a day bed that's black and white everything is literally black and white and I have my camera in here and stuff but yeah I take i take my own family pictures for christmas all there you go all the things so really enjoy it definitely a good way to save some money for that yes wait whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what do you find your favorite beer style is a sour

it is sorry no don't be sorry it's just it's different because it was funny i was talking about that today how the brewery i go to they make like a lot of sours and i don't necessarily always love them but like when they're good they're good i'll tell you morgan well i bought it for morgan because she likes her pumpkin spice beers during the fall. And I found like a pumpkin sour. And like, she's like, oh, you should try this. Like, this is more up your alley. I ended up liking it more despite hating pumpkin beers. It's called like Smooth, S-M-U-M-L-A-T-V.

Phenomenal. Phenomenal. I like my sours in the summer, but I don't necessarily enjoy them year round. Yeah, I am. I'm going to caveat those with, I like my sours in the summer but I don't necessarily enjoy them year-round yeah I am I'm gonna caveat those with I like to eat my calories eat my macros so I don't drink all the time but when I do I I do love sours um we have we have a place we have tons of craft breweries in Iowa but one of them um is known for their sours and they do, they do some really fun ones like Hawaiian punch, but they call it like Hawaiian. So an Iowan and it tastes exactly. And they have one that's called, I can't remember what they call it, but it's like Ecto Cooler. Oh my God. It was so good. They have cotton candy is they're all,

my god it was so good they have cotton candy is they're all everyone they come out with is just just so good um but yeah i i do love a good sour so we we live in a town that has a it's called the peanut pub and it's a it's called a beer bar so they don't serve domestics or anything like that so it's all it's all craft beer most the majority of it is Iowa beer but they'll have um some some um out-of-state source beers but anyway they have um beer school about every so often and a brewery will come in and you get to hear about you get to learn about the brewery how it started um what how their beers work so that's where i really kind of probably got into the sours so got to try ipa sours all the things and it's super fun that's so cool i did that with tequila there was a tequila bar here that did like they brought in

like the founders of tequila companies and they taught you and had like pair their tequila had to properly drink tequila and all this kind of stuff so there's definitely some value in that kind of stuff it's fun to learn about so we've gone on tours obviously at um a couple wait what's the what's the whiskey one that i'm thinking of in tennessee jack daniels yeah jack and that was oh my gosh that not not specifically the whiskey because i'm not i don't really love whiskey but the tour itself was amazing and then you end with the whiskey so of course you have to taste it but um um and then when we were in uh jamaica we went to one that made rome that was and got to do a tour and tasting that was really fun too you've just described a lot of places that a lot of us probably haven't been to so someone had mentioned traveling as one of your favorite hobbies so you've already kind of hit

on all that uh is that just something you've always done or something you kind of got into later in life just like being more ambitious you know sorry yeah it took a long time Keith obviously I grew up we didn't have a lot of money we didn't take a lot of trips and I think I think we went to this we went to Missouri to this place called World's Fun and Ocean Sun and that was within driving distance so we'd go there sometimes and then we I remember one trip to Colorado, but other than that, we really didn't have a lot growing up. So when my husband and I got married, we just decided that's going to be something that, you know, we do and we do with our son and just to make those memories.

So, but it took a while. We were, we were probably in our late thirties before we could, you know, we felt comfortable with bringing our son and having the finances to do it so that's what we're really looking forward to and in our retirement days but i can attest to that yeah i um when i was about 16 my dad drove me across canada and as a 16 year old you're like appreciative but you don't understand it so when my kid before actually it's a funny story we booked a trip to halifax to go to the keithsbury my buddy and i and i was with

morgan at the time we weren't married or anything but we were like together like we were and she was like i'd like to go with you and she actually told me she was pregnant the week before that trip. And then about three years later, we went back. Like right before, I want to say 2019. No, no, no, no. 2022, we went back to Halifax. And it was just, it's the same thing. And it's like, I had never traveled beyond that trip with my dad until I won a trip to

apple in san francisco and so apple flew me down and they put me in a hotel and i was just like now i want to see everything so like i immediately came back went to halifax then i went to calgary and bamf in alberta and then again to Halifax again a little later then to South Dakota then to like Ohio like yeah just now I'm just like I want to see everything all the things and you just just don't have time but we we're trying we try to go on a trip every year so it's just and I've had so many good memories but my son's first one was San Francisco and he really enjoyed it I can vividly remember us going to the Alcatraz museum and him having that we all had the headsets listening to it and he was so enamored by what they were

talking about he loved it so yeah I just I love love making the memories and of course I bring my camera I got to take all the pictures that I can okay there's one i wanted to talk about um we have a contentious thing in the crew and that's lifting to podcasts because i can't do it i'm actually getting to the point where i don't even want to listen to music while i lift anymore like i'm gonna go like like jake from state farm style and turn off the lights and the music like a psycho and just like lift in the dark and the quiet but you listen to podcasts when you lift i do and i love it um honestly it's just that i get tired of uh-oh uh-oh wow somebody's popular today hey buddy oh he's not gonna say anything that's okay keep going okay i was like

can they talk or what um he's loud if he wants hey what's going on hey who's this nope he'll be up after his thing we were uh we were just talking to jen about lifting to podcasts listening to podcasts while you live oh god no you got to so now i'm like a dick i'm i i have to because there's just not enough time in the day so and you guys are releasing two and a half hour oh Oh my God. Yeah. So if I'm not doing it when I'm lifting, I, I try to walk 10 to 12,000 steps a day. So I try to get in, you know, my podcast during then, but now it's now I have mass dynamics is a two and a half hours. You guys are two and a half hours. I have two, sorry, three now podcasts from my other boys, um town murder they have a they have a three

hour one and a one hour one and now they've come out with this new one called um your stupid opinion oh my god guys if you guys want to listen to something funny they literally just read internet interviews and just fucking rag on the people that are putting the ratings. I might be into that. Yep. Okay. I think it's number seven. So whichever one came out this week, but it's called Baggy Condoms.

Look at that one. Your stupid opinion, Baggy Condoms. If you want to get hooked on it, listen to that one. I walked around town listening to that one, and their reviews of Trojan Condoms, reading the reviews of Trojan Condoms was the fucking funniest thing i've ever heard that's awesome i had a side egg i was laughing so hard but yeah so i feel like it's just a timing thing so it's out of necessity that i have to listen while i lift but and now i just got used to it are you in uh are you a basement or garage another contentious thing amongst the crew he's a garage I'm I'm actually I actually have a specific

home gym I made it for us so I'm not quite a shed in the sense that big Matt is oh by the way big Matt he he had me call in today because he couldn't quite make it for some reason. He had some lame-ass excuse, but he asked me to fill in for him, so I did. Yeah, I wasn't going to say that because I didn't feel like calling him out again, but, you know, we tried. I'll call him out. He keeps giving me a bunch of shit on Instagram about fucking not being on. He's the problem, not me, so I don't know. I feel like Big Matt has, in my mind is a garden like a garden shed he has a i like to call his home gym a she shed because it's what yeah it would be like what it reminds me of but does he have a

nice garden walk path to it and it's got a little like little in-ground stepping stones that he goes to um but no we uh started in 2020 late 2020 we just decided to build one so we built a huge cement slab in our backyard and um and built a pole barn i don't know what other people call them we call them pole barns um i always thought that was a garage that's awesome that was a standalone that's crazy so we we built in storage too so my gym um is pretty big and then we built like our storage in the back for our mowers and stuff but um keith and case you're keeping track you want to know how big my gym is i do actually i'm very curious in square footage so the gym portion of it is get get this, 56 by 64 by 48. That's huge.

Oranges. I could literally fit 43,008 oranges inside of my gym. That's crazy. So it's actually 14 by 16 by 12 the gym portion of it so okay i got you had to measure it in oranges i got you that's so that's hysterical that's awesome i love it that is he's gonna add that one to his spreadsheet now so now you're gonna find out how many oranges your gym is that was a very thoughtful gift that you just gave me so uh but i do hear that you uh you dislike unthoughtful gifts is that something you've you have you received unthoughtful gifts

in the past and you have made a fuss about them or it's just something people know not to get you something unthoughtful here's a gift card yeah i mean i don't know not to say a lot of people don't agree with that sentiment but it was meaningful enough that someone had mentioned it to us oh I'm assuming there's a story there probably is a couple stories actually but I just I despise I get so frustrated every around the holiday so I love the holidays don't get me wrong absolutely love them because I love family I I love spending time with everybody. But when it comes down to, hey, can you make me a list? Or hey, what gift cards do you want? It's just like, we're all swapping money around to each other. Like, why don't we just keep our own money and have an experience together? Or, you know, go out to eat or go to a hotel or do whatever we need to do or pick a vacation and go on a vacation.

So it just, if you have to ask what I want, we probably need to spend more time together. So I feel like it would mean more if we spent the time together because we only go get so much. So, but also, so my husband's first gift to me was uh um he knew i loved the color blue so he got like the swiss army like set and it came with a blue pin and a blue swiss army knife and i'm like open this gift and I'm like, thanks? What am I gonna do

with a gun rack? I don't even own a gun, let alone many guns to necessitate a gun rack. And you were worried you wouldn't get any of my references. I, uh,

I still have that little Swiss Army knife to, I don't know where the pin went but i still have the blue swiss army knife but i give him shit every year like why why did you i would i would hold it aside for when he needs something and be like oh i have this can you pass me i need help there let me get it oh i have this you have something in your teeth hold on no I I didn't mean to steer away from the gym because I could talk home gym all day

I found that perfect segue you talk about fucking music that only how many oranges can fit in your gym Keith I don't know it's like 700 square foot so i don't how many oranges is 700 square feet i'd have to do that i'd have to figure i i did average size of an orange was three inches diameter so that's how i figured out my so you heard it here you said you had

her here first yep average size of an orange is three inches. Around. Yeah. Luckily, that's me three times. Good stuff. Yeah. Dick jokes. Yeah. Yeah. Classics. We make them with female or male guests.

We're not sexists. Classics. God, I'm old. I had one here. Where'd it go? Okay. Okay. So I saw a funny story i i'm told this is a

funny story and i'm just to ask you about zero zero double zero okay oh my god i didn't think this one would come up so i know who this came from this came from jen which you guys got to me i got the chance to at least see her at the Left Hard WC. Oh, Other Jen. Yeah, Other Jen. I love Other Jen. Yeah. We have played softball together for

actually her and I have been friends since forever. Since kindergarten. Is that Little Jen? That is not Little Jen. Okay. She's Equal Jen. She's Equal Jen. Is Jen a common name where you're from you know so it's it's it's it's not like tanner right it's not it's not where we're from it's when we're from oh good call yeah yeah like sky everybody skylar and tyler Jennifer or Jason or Tiffany or Trisha, Stephanie. Hey, I got a Stephanie.

Yeah, and she's closer to my age. Yeah, she just turned 38. She does not like me telling people that, but she turned 38. So he tells all of us that. Yep. Just told the whole world. Continue with your 00100 story yes all right so um so we obviously talk all together a lot and this was a little little league game um and for some reason so a girl on the other team had double knots as

her number and we had so we really hadn't just seen it before we weren't making we were not being bullies to this little girl we just had never ever seen double zero on a little league jersey before and so of course Jen and I are constantly in cahoots but we we were like zero zero that's pretty cool zero zero double zero and we just kept like we were so hyper focused on these stupid double zero numbers and the mom thought we were picking on her and so we so ultimately she like tried to get us in trouble they came over and we took off running because we thought we thought we were in big shit so we like ran across the street he's it it's the fuzz it was just bolt it was like adults

bushes and like we're peeking through the bushes watching this mom try to yell at us for making fun of her daughter when we weren't even making fun of her daughter we just thought the number was cool and I don't know she just took it took it out of context and thought I don't know thought we were being bullies but we definitely weren't being bullies and looking back I feel bad for running but that's one of our core memories is diving over the bushes and hiding and watching this mom be totally pissed at us uh speaking of moms i can segue into uh i think most people consider you i don't know if it's a name you give yourself but a lot of people have pointed you uh the the the crew mom how do you feel about that is that something you embrace or are you kind of just like oh really i i think i'm I think I'm embrace it. So, although I'm not old enough to be everybody's mom. So I do like that scans calls it out as big sister in some case. So I definitely am old enough

to be probably what I don't even know how many people we have anymore in their twenties. There's a, there's, I feel like a like a growing amount yeah it is a growing amount yeah a new member like our our our mean median and mode the average age is going down up i feel yeah no you're correct and then um in in that other discord um we were talking about the mass crew and these these young guys were just like oh what is it about and then like me big mofo kevin nate and matt and i want to say jake we're all like trying to sell the discord and i don't think any of us clued in that these are just young guys but they're dads right so they're like interested in some of the same stuff but if it's just the one good the one guy was like well i kind of feel like i'm betraying two white

lights and i was just like oh like did you have kids when you were 18 like what are you doing here right but it is definitely uh there's just like a thing about that the crew is definitely getting younger and that that's fine that's fine it's literally fine i feel like i definitely embrace it and i feel like um i feel like it's fun that the younger kids can actually talk to me and it's cool i guess or i I actually speaking of photography I took some senior pictures of this this kid last year and we were just chatting we were on his property so he's driving us around to different spots that I could take pictures of him and and we started we got on the subject of discord and I said why you know I'm in Discord. And he's like, what? Because my mom doesn't even barely know

how to turn on the computer, let alone know what Discord is. So I got total bonus points for being pretty cool old lady, for being on Discord. That's the Mathonomics bump. You got the Mathonomics bump on that one. But actually I was on Discord before

because if I wanted to get my son's attention so i had a discord account before because if i needed to tell him it was time for dinner or i needed to do something take out my trash i just shoot him and i am on on discord there you go that's so smart uh i want to talk go ahead yep i just just make it a quick little observant like i feel like i'm on discord more than probably equal amount of instagram but definitely more than facebook and like i i only open tiktok like once a month but like discord is slowly becoming and like like you just because i'm in i you know i'm in a few other ones that are nowhere near as active as ours but it's uh this is very active yeah there's so i mean i could

who was it the other day that said something the extent of like what would take longer reading every comment posted in the mass atomic discord or listening to every like every minute of the backlog of the podcast and i think someone actually i think nate might have been chimed in with how many minutes it was i was gonna say some fucking nerd but it was it was our fucking nerd that produces our podcast out of the goodness of his heart thanks buddy our fucking nerd good good call of me uh yeah and you know speaking of nate and having jen on this podcast um you know a lot of you don't know, but I always contribute a lot of what we do to Jen, uh, for a lot of the, be like the beginning of this podcast, a lot of content

came from you. Um, just, you were always on top of the guests and sending us information and all that kind of stuff. So like for some of you that don't know why we were so excited, maybe to get Jen on this week is, is, is you know that is she's the massonomics crew mom or big sister but like she's also the unpaid and underrated kind of like the one of the we the best way to describe it is we had our core group of like seven guys that like really got together to form the podcast we let jen in like after like five episodes into that core group because we were just like you're just contributing more than any of us right now so you know i just want to throw that out there like big thanks for that because like that's part of why i was excited

to get you on here just to like you earned it like you needed to be on this a lot sooner so i'm happy we got you on finally only took episode 72 or whatever we're doing right now like I don't know where you're at right now yeah I like that um it's it's branching me out so I do have a pretty small circle because because trust issues but he has a small circle um but discord branches me out and so I I love when I, if I know the guests really well, I definitely want to contribute. But I am like hardcore listen every Tuesday, right? When it comes out, because I want to hear about everybody. And I, it does think sometimes that they're a longer podcast,

but I unfortunately would like them to be longer just to hear more things. And sometimes we got to cut it off like i think it was his waffle iron i was like dude we got to stop right now it's been three hours like we got to stop like i gotta i gotta go to bed like we'll get you on next year and like just read you know finish this but uh so you're saying you're you know you're kind of a small circle person uh so how was the lift hard live easy as far as just you met 40 different crew members give or take and like are you a lot more interactive with them on instagram and social media and whatnot now or um i i feel like i was i'm okay on instagram and discord being i was probably more so nervous a little bit nervous at the actual okay like how

how it would go and it turned out obviously it was just a walking discord and walking instagram so it was fine um but yeah I feel like I do connect with I connect with a lot of people and I do you know lots of dms and I like looking at even their videos of their kids or whatever, their significant others, whatever it is. I just, I love it so much. And I love that I got to meet a lot of them in real life. And I'm so excited that they're kind of making, they're making the strong man and the meet bigger so that I can meet even more of them.

I'm so excited. And I gave everyone a hug so I'm excited to give you more hugs next year yeah no I think we're definitely all looking forward to next year for sure there's gonna be 110 plus of us potentially so nervous I'm so nervous at least means 80 group and like hopefully I talk about how hard it was to meet people last time like we're gonna have to have an unpaid underrated booth at this point. And just people can like, it has to be like constantly manned by me, you Jen, like scans and Nate. And it's just like,

just come meet one of us, like just come talk to us so that we can make sure we get to everybody. And I know that's kind of arrogant to say, but like, I kind of feel that's the only way I'm going to get to meet everybody. I know. It is hard. And it does go fast. So we'll have to just.

I think this year though. Even though there are more people. It'll be even easier though. To socialize. And do all that. So I'm excited. Obviously I see Big Jeff sometimes online, but I'm excited to meet him in person and Toby and some of the Davids.

Hopefully, Nate can make it. Yeah, there's a lot that I'm excited. And Scott. Yeah, Big Hot better show up show up yeah he's very excited um so if all this sounds like something you guys want to get in on if you're listening to this and you haven't seen it yet uh tuesday november 14th so shut up shut up shut up don't tell people there's only 90 spots keith all right well you said it'll be fine it will be fine for me and you fine for me and you if you shut the hell up about it so yeah if you're listening to this

that shut up be quiet easy classic you know yeah yeah i was trying to support because i was i was trying to be optimistic thinking that i'm teasing no teasing but you know if you're listening to this you should have signed up already or you're probably not going to get a spot yeah that comes out the day this comes out yeah just a couple hours after oh I would love if somebody's listening to this and they don't know and they're like scrambling

like what what what time I'll tell you what time shut up o'clock if you didn't get on you didn't get on I want Big Riff to come so bad that I'm willing to sign up for her. Dude, give me your stuff. I'm signing you up.

It wouldn't be the same without her. Right. I want to ask you about a good marching band performance. Tell me about your favorite. Because same. It's such a weird thing for me like you're scrolling and there's like i think the most recent one was the bluey one where they did the bluey theme and they did the marching band performance and like i'm riveted

it's like i don't watch anybody but my sons but so the school that he goes to they it is it's absolutely insane so where we went to school um when I grew up you know it's cool to be in sports but I not you know we didn't we did have a good jazz band but marching band like nobody went out for marching band but at the school that my son goes to they have it is cool to be in band like half the people on the homecoming court and king and queen were in the marching band that's it just blows my mind but anyway so my son is in marching band they do amazing they win tons of awards i've got a chance to go to the rose bowl um it's just so cool but anyway this year was uh they did 90s rap music oh my god it was so amazing and they did they did break dancing and all kinds of stuff so even just to go watch it i totally geek out on this stuff so

it's gonna be hard to beat it next year but i said that last year too and they totally beat it this year so hopefully hopefully the next two years they can really rock it out i love it totally and my husband and i have zero musical talent i i'm not a bassist my husband's not a bassist whoa you're in the minority I am we're going to start finding people that aren't bassist yeah so I don't know how my son got his musical talent but he did

I thought I heard somebody behind me give me a weirdo do you have a candle on? I always have a candle on every episode nice i meant to turn mine on but i didn't yeah it's a thing i did like the first time because i was just like man my room kind of smells musty and now humans love rituals it's a thing and we're going to pretend that's not the word for it but we all have rituals of some sort and light the candle blur the background especially that candle and they're not cheap and i've given this woman uh it's called at rest so

she does like gothic style candles so this one is supposed to smell a bit like an apothecary like um the incense that they use in churches during funerals yeah so it's very earthy it's very it just reminds me actually of my grandma so the first time i lit it i almost cried a bit and i turned to my wife and i was just like so this is my forever scented candle but because they're handmade artisan out of like montreal they're like 40 a pop and i was like so this woman's gonna get a lot of my money because i'm gonna light one every night whenever i have any free time ah sounds great it is nice that's graveyard wanderers if you're from canada check them out graveyard wanderers they do really cool stuff and she's got some sculpted candles they did a she did a witch shaped one that i got morgan

and it smelled like apples it was so cool it's so so good oh they're a bit creepy but like gothic right like nothing like monsters or anything but like a witch and like everything's like graveyard scented cool stuff cool steve said that lighting a candle is kind of a a a rule for you and that kind of uh segues into what i want to ask jen about you uh breaking the rules is a big no no for you huh just that's that's like a life moral thing you have just no no no keith keith don't get me started i i i like someone that's got a something you have a hard stance on that even like i guess okay so i have to just shorten it is it only big stuff or like little things too like the smallest little minute like like don't walk the wrong way down a hallway

like like no that shit bugs me too i'm just trying to i i don't want to make it such a broad question because it's just kind of she can you know if she doesn't want to yeah it such a broad question because it's just kind of if she doesn't want to if she does break the rules she's going to run and jump in a bush and peek through the bushes yeah there you go you guys are a double zero some little girl

is like traumatized by you saying that probably or they never even remembered it unless her mom had just been a fucking parent but now I wake up what you say and that is it or they never even remembered it and didn't even know it's in the mom her mom her mom might have just been a fucking parent but now but now i wake up every night thinking about it and she's never gonna think about it but now i have to think about it every night that is the rule yeah i i can't say that i don't ever not break the rules because i mean obviously you're driving five over

I'm technically breaking the rules but man there's just certain shit that drives me insane and my so my last boss was taking us out for coffee and she did a k-turn do you guys know what a k-turn is like you're you have angled parking but you cross you you cross the lane to get into the other side that you're on so you normally would you do angle parking you're like you turn right and you angle right into the parking spot but in this case she turned left went across the lane and then went into the other side and I'm like you cannot do that and I freaked out she's like why and I'm like she's like nobody's around but I'm like but what if they and I freaked out she's like why and I'm like she's like nobody's around but I'm like but what if they were like what if someone was in that car and just opened

the door and now you just took off their door or what if they didn't see you and you're backing out because you're over here and they're doing this and oh just certain things like drive me insane I try Keith I've tried to like let it go. I know you have, how old are you again? 38? Yeah, 38. Yep. Okay. You have eight more years to like calm the fuck down. Just let some things go. So there are times when things drive me absolutely insane and it's, I'm just hold it in and like okay that pisses me off and I can't control everything or everybody so I just gotta let it go

that's funny cause I'm the same age as Keith and I tell him that all the time calm the fuck down it's the most unhelpful thing anyone's ever said to anyone in any situation in the world all it does is just like chat my ass harder I know I know it's interesting. Cause like,

so I used to be the same way. Just constantly anxious, constantly worried that I'm like, I don't have control of the situation. And now I'm the guy that has to talk other people off the ledge, but it's because I've, I have learned that I need my, I need my five seconds to be rage about it in my head and be so mad

and then it's like and then I can turn to you and go dude control what you can control you can't control how they're talking to you but you can control how you react to it and suddenly I became that guy and like even like they like even my my team will text me and they'll be like thank you so much for talking me off of that and it's just so funny that i'm suddenly that guy um but it's it's interesting because jen i'm the same way but i only get mad when you break rules that affect everybody like i think i oh gosh yeah whose episode was that we called the public sphere i only get annoyed if you're breaking rules that affect the people around you. If you want to drive 200 kilometers an hour down a road where nobody lives and nobody is, go ahead.

100 kilometers? Yeah, it's like 160. Yeah, it's pretty fast actually. It's a lot. If the only person you're gonna kill is yourself have fun right go figure it out but like if you're what if someone steps out well that's the idea is in my hypothetical scenario there's nobody around if it's a highway like in canada we have just highways through the forest there shouldn't be humans

so if you're going to speed good the most you're going to do is a bear or a moose that'll demolish their car and they will hurt themselves and the poor moose so yeah no i'm a gin on that so no matter what selfish move you do you're affecting something some other things although i was driving a mosquito like so i am the same way but the other day this dude just was driving like a fucking nightmare and he almost hit the truck in front of me then he almost hit me then he like brake checked the transport truck like some reason and it's like come on like that's when i get annoyed about breaking rules if come on like that's when i get annoyed about breaking rules if the hallway to the way to the washroom at my work is like the number one hated room for me because it's where the lockers for the employees are so the employees will be standing at their lockers and then some dummy will just be shuffling to the washroom like they have nowhere else to be and i'm like i'm clearly on a mission

because i'm going to the only place at the end of this hallway. I'm going to the washroom. Why are none of you acting like this is an important place to be? Why are you checking your watch blocking the hallway to the washroom? Is washroom a Canadian? I know it's a term.

Just fucking water closet? You know what I mean? Do you want to call it the Ute Hoose? I don't know if it's a Joey thing, a Canadian thing, or just term. Just fucking water closet? You know what I mean? Do you want to call it the Oud Hoos? I don't know if it's a Joey thing, a Canadian thing, or just a... It's a Canadian thing. What do you guys call it? Bathroom.

Do you guys take a lot of baths in the Costco washrooms? Yeah. Sure. Right after I grab my chicken bake. You know what? I've seen it so why are you brushing your teeth at the costco washroom that's weird but so do you call it a washroom because you wash your hands why don't you call it a pee room or a poop room i call it the shitter so you should yeah that explains a lot i don't know because you just don't

it's it's more politically correct i get it yeah you're watching it's like you wash your hands sometimes restroom yeah restroom yeah restroom is pretty but like like if you were to say restroom and casual conversation like i don't care about part of the north america you're in people are gonna go the fuck's wrong with you it's like if i was to say like i joked about water closet if i said water closet in casual conversation people are gonna be like yeah okay hipster like we get you no old-timey language but is a water closet just a just a toilet and a sink like maybe maybe it was water closet a half bath i'm guessing i well i feel like it's just what they would have called washrooms

when they first had indoor public, indoor plumbing. Because, like, that's the closet where the water is. That's where you wash. Are you worse? Worse. So, Jen, I got one for you here. I know we kind of touched on how when you're going to your local powerlifting meets you're only really competitive with yourself not other people because you already

know that the the bar is already you know that you're already not going to beat them unless someone has a catastrophic injury or something so that's not necessarily the the same thing when you're running 5ks i hear you're extremely competitive with your 5ks to the point that you're even going to like look at the women running with you and be like, she's about my age. If I beat her, I win my, my, you know, my class. Is that, is that, is that, is that a thing that is accurate or someone blowing smoke up her ass? I would say that lift, I don't know, I guess my lifting journey or fitness journey started after I had my son. And about that same time I got my first desk job. So instantly I went from being on my feet all day long in manufacturing and then boom, I'm sitting down all day and I gained 10 pounds right away. So I started working with a trainer and so she had me lift weights, but at the end, she'd always make me do like 20 minutes of minute on minute off, minute on minute off, kind of like a hit workout. And I got pretty good, pretty good running. And I told her one day, I'm like, someday I'm going to run a 5k around 20 minutes. And she's like, uh, okay.

She's like, you realize that's, you realize that's really freaking fast. I'm like, oh, well, I didn't, I didn't know that it was fast, but, um, but yeah. So then I got to the point where I started doing 5ks all the time. And that was, I still was doing kind of a little bit of lifting but it was just like gym bro stuff but then I was running quite a bit and yeah every time I'd sign up for a 5k I had to make sure that at least in my age group if not better I was I was beating whoever was there and they used to give me shit like so Jen would run with me a lot she's a huge runner she's run marathons and stuff but she would give me shit that i'd be like i'd every time i'm like oh i'm not feeling it today

well like i'm too scared i don't know i don't i don't think i'll do very good and then like blow her blow her out of the water the water uh yeah so anyway my career did start as running and quickly became, now I don't even think I could run a mile without my knees hurting. You're an active powerlifter, so how did that come about? You went from just doing some personal training and stuff to then you said you got in the hybrid. How did you find powerlifting? Yeah, actually I did like, I did Ashley Horner workouts for, I don't even know if you know her. The name's familiar, but I couldn't make it in places. Instagram influencer. I do a lot of her workouts.

And then, yeah, when I found hybrid, that kind of, I picked the powerlifting. They had several programs, but I picked the powerlifting one because it kind of sounded good. And then did that for quite some time actually and then I finally decided that you know hey I kind of want to get into this after getting on Instagram and following Mathemomics and like kind of starting to understand more what powerlifting really was then I'm like oh that would be a good way for me to challenge myself, like get some of that competitiveness out of my system. And, you know, have something to work towards instead of just randomly doing whatever I was doing in the gym. So I reached out and actually did get a coach.

And so he helped me through my first meet, and I was with him for my second meet. And then, but then I just decided, you know, like I said before, like I have really strong women in my area. So I just decided I'm never, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be winning money. I'm not going to do any of this stuff. So I just decided to move over to Juggernaut and I've been not doing that for, I did that for prep up until Lift Hard, Live Easy. And I've been doing it since.

So yeah, I really like, I like Jug AI. So that's kind of how it all started. I feel like you guys are in a, now there's several of you guys that do the Juggernaut. Do you guys have like a, is there like a, is there a private chat or anything for all the Masonomics Jugheads? Nope, it's the Get Strong Chat. Okay, so is that the one on facebook or because facebook well you're not but there is a there is a facebook associated with that i think that's a part of the membership yeah like a big facebook group but i

didn't know if like if who if you guys are ever well if jen's ever in there just like oh i recognize you and you and you no i i don't get on facebook very i i do have it mostly for invitations i like i like being able to see events in your in your town and i also we when we throw parties we just that's how we send the invitation out is through facebook so i don't really actively look at it and i don't i'm not on on Jug AI's Facebook page but I do they I did it when hybrid had it like if I really wanted to post a video they would look at your video and kind of critique your form and stuff but I've never really done it for for Jug no Facebook's for fucking chumps I I would honestly I get upset so I can't i can't do it and you were talking earlier keith about

like how much time you're on discord and instagram yeah like i i love i love instagram but the fucking algorithm is like so fucking hell like the people i want to see i don't get to see i'm like what the hell i am in discord more I think yep if I follow somebody and suddenly that's all I see and I'm like come on like I followed you because you posted a funny thing massonomics related and now my entire feed is you but even if I would block

every single person I don't want to see and only make everybody like my close friends I still feel like I just see nothing that adds it's so frustrating yeah it's definitely all sounds the same for sure yep um what about uh i think one thing that anyone listening to follow jen has been enjoying her uh her her weekly outfit polls is that something that you're uh it's just just kind of came to you it's like you know what what well because i think it was because you were working from home solely and then you started to go back into the office right

so it's basically you just you have to like you you were going from gym clothes and sweatpants to like oh i have to wear like casual clothes again like how do i dress for an office setting oh it was tough tough going from working from home full- time back to the office and i'm back to those following the rule shit like we were getting everything done at home so why the fuck do we need to go back don't even get me get me going on that i know the reason frustrating yeah um well i think what he's getting at here is oh he just deleted something okay I was getting into the crew questions because we had a series of questions from crew

oh got it and that was one of the ones you just deleted I do want to say something I have made several friends doing the the outfit thing like the comments I get every week are so fun like like Matt says we'll only we'll only vote for the ones when I'm wearing bands

based on certain things and so sometimes like if I tell them I'm not wearing my bands like what are you gonna vote for now buddy so it's been really fun all right i have a series of questions from crew i'll ask a couple i'm sure keith will chime in at some point okay um so fmk obviously because they love to give us the fmk they're easy they're the haikus of crew questions cheers friends or seinfeld cheers friends seinfeld this is super easy so friends can can die correct i love that all right uh what's his face chandler yeah r.i.p what's his face doesn't know his real name really heartfelt tribute there r.i.p matthew perry no i had to i just

told my wife about that she was like a really big friends fan and she was like oh fuck she like i she got up to go to the bathroom or something like did you see this she's like oh shit okay so kill friends i'm gonna say fuck cheers but that's tough because cheers is a really really good show like if i probably could go back and watch that one again and probably appreciate even more from than than i did when i was younger. But obviously I got to marry Seinfeld because there is not a situation in life that you cannot tie to a Seinfeld episode at all. Like I've made so many friends along the way. Every department I worked in,

I've had that one Seinfeld friend that I could connect with. I'm like, okay, you're my guy. Let's be friends. You know what I think that the crew doesn't give enough credit to golden girls oh i've watched that multiple times yeah yeah it was so fucking ahead of its time it was the shit that they say on golden girls i'm like oh my god how are they

saying that in the 80s yeah yeah that that humor was next level and and you know it was it was a highly progressive television show which some people might not care about but just like the comedy itself and estelle getty alone like made that show it was so good yeah so i think that like we all chat about kind of those tv shows and how they influenced us i think there's a lot of people in the crew that either are influenced or would enjoy golden oh yeah for sure based on the way they talk to each other yeah basically they talk to each other the the insults the the quick wit yeah i feel like we don't we don't give that one enough love i've i i was also a huge will and grace fan too so i would take that hands down over

friends any day and they always had good like jack and karen on will and grace were two of the best like two of the best characters and the the banter that they had back and forth. Man, I just love... I love good banter and that's, I think, why I love Letterkenny and Shorty so much. It's just the banter. And that's because it's people trying to make

each other laugh rather than trying to make the audience laugh. And that makes comedy way more interesting. For sure. Keith glitched for a second come back buddy come back i didn't go anywhere god damn it you didn't freeze we're all sleepy he just he just likes to throw that in because my wi-fi is very great the last like no that nothing to do with your wi-fi you just looked really like bored and you're like you're one you're one eye closed a little bit and you were just like i'm tired i lost robot keith for a second hey i'm i'm

i'm alive as well i'm here all right um so is it too is it too soon to say that you are a true og if you remember get fit gen and how long until get strong, Jen, is stay strong, Jen. Now, was that from you, Keith, or was that from someone? No, I don't always add. It's okay. No, you biffed it. That's right. No, I got it.

That's also crew. That's also crew. I'm going to take a week off, and you have to do all the show notes one of the weeks. There will be no show notes and I will still have fun. You will. Slightly less organized. You will sit there very annoyed and confused

and me and the guest will just shoot the shit for two hours. Oh shoot. Now I forgot the question. Get fit, stay strong. Yes, it started at get fit, shoot. Now I forgot the question. Oh, okay. Okay. Yes. Yes. It started at, at get fit Jen. And then when I'm like, screw this, I need to be get strong Jen. Um, did you guys have the question about when, when you would stop caring about PRs and things?

Yep. Maybe if I get to a certain age, maybe it'll get to stay strong Jen, I think. But right now I'm still able to hit PRs and I still feel really good. So why not keep going? Cause I'm not hurting anything, but eventually, eventually if I get there, but also like just talking about the women, there's a woman in my area that has broke many all-time world records and she's well in her 60s so i aspire to be to be her i never i never thought about it like that um in just a quick story because you and i don't talk enough so there was um somebody at work the other day they were talking about how they used to lift right i think they just it came up and and they were like you know at what point are you going to stop and i was like well never no because when i'm 60 or 70 getting off the toilet is going to be important

right being able to pick up my groceries without help is going to be important and i never really looked at it but the way you just said it is the get strong, stay strong and user strength is like kind of the perpetual of your life to get strong, to stay strong. And then, you know, in your late age, you're going to use your strength. Yeah. That's really fun. I never thought about it that way. It's going to help. It's going to help you. Yeah. I'm, I'm probably, obviously if I get to the point where it starts to hurt, a negative effect I'll probably back down and and just continue to lift but I'm always I am a big proponent of people who lift and I think that it's going to help you when you age and I've seen it firsthand unfortunately with

some in some cases and I don't want to be like that i don't want my son to have to be the one that's picking me up off the floor because i can't do it myself yeah so yeah and you know steve said that too one day he's like one day i'm going to stop lifting heavy and i was like one day i'm going to stop lifting heavy but like that's relative i might stop chasing prs at some point but i'm still going to be lifting more than the guy next to me for sure at some point in the the nursing home gym and there's always variations people are people are so hung up on like i have to straight bar squat bench and deadlift well that's all i can like no dude like when i'm fucking 70 i doubt i'm gonna use a straight bar anymore it's gonna be all ssb and duffalo and neutral grip bars and fucking like or and

that's even if i'm doing barbell i was my goal would be to be doing some barbell variations my entire life but like it doesn't have to be a fucking powerlifting barbell it can literally you know i might get a mars bar you know at some point like it's there's so many different tools you can use yeah just go to planet fitness and do something but like yeah i'm honestly like half my half my good friends on instagram are women who are older than i am so 50 and beyond or just people that i don't even know that i follow just because it gives me motivation that well there's no reason why i can't still be lifting at some point in my seventies too. I just, I want, I want that. For me, the goal is to be completely effed up with Alzheimer's and dementia,

but also too strong to stop. Why am I here again? But it's also me just walking through doors just like like grandpa you have to sit down you can't tell me what to do and just throwing children because i'm all messed up i never thought about that because like with dementia like you forget like you know for example you might you might forget your last 20 years remember shit from your like 20s and 30s so you're still gonna remember fucking lifting yeah potentially so you're gonna be like i have to fucking do push-ups i just shit my pants but i have to do push-ups it's really sad to think about but if you train

for fucking 50 years by the time you're 70 80 90 and whatever like you start losing your mental back please like the training should still be there like the very deepest core of your memory they're trying to walk me back to the room but like it takes four of them anyway what did i have one oh i speaking of just uh you know your instagram and everything big orange glaze wanted to just uh tell you that he really enjoyed making your hype video keep up the badass work yeah he's awesome i was so happy to to see my video i loved it he made me a lot he made a lot of us look a lot cooler than we are in real life he did yeah he did he did well with that he had another one but i'm not sure if it was a joke or not because i'm pretty sure we all know the answer but are they your sumo or he did he sumo versus

conventional was the way he worded it. So, but I thought you were pretty much sumo always weren't you or am I misremembering? I am. I was, so he probably dug in and probably saw a lot of conventional cause I actually have lifted as heavy conventional as I am now getting up to sumo. heavy conventional as I am now getting up to sumo I just I was born with a little bit of back issue and it gets flared up sometimes so I finally got smart switched to sumo and don't give a shit what people think about it because it still allows me to lift without pain um so that's but ultimately that's why I went to I think I probably could have I have the leverages to be better at conventional, but because of what's going on I just do sumo, just so I can keep going.

No, it makes sense for sure. I think no one can fault you for that. Do you ever, do you ever mix in conventional? really okay well jug has you do it typically in your um hypertrophy phase so but i always am careful i make sure that i don't do anything too heavy but yeah i actually saw pretty good progress the last time but i i never want to push it that's smart so it's it is hypertrophy hypertrophy keith how do you say it hypertrophy some other people say it hypertrophy yeah yeah I hear fucking people say hypertrophy and I think of someone with like fucking ADHD giving them a trophy and I'm like what the fuck are you talking about

that's not a fucking word that's like a sentence I don't understand it hypertrophy hypertrophy yeah yeah yeah it sounds more scientific when you say hypertrophy yes hypertrophy yeah yeah yeah because it sounds more sounds more scientific when you say hypertrophy yes hypertrophy herpetrophy they're calling it hypertrophy just to mess with humans we could be wrong and it is i don't know i can't say it the other way it's yeah it's not a word um so we want to know who's more Midwest, you or

Ryan? Angry monkey. I think I am. Hands down. I kind of agree. He gets to travel a lot for work. And he loves the yelly, screamy

music. The yelly, screamy music yelly screamy music he does he really does so like all all those things and and i'm i don't know i i feel and also he's from a bigger city so he i shouldn't say city i'm spitting it like bigger town. Yeah. Bigger town. But so I grew up in a town of 1000 people and, and he grew up in a smaller town. I think Marion's smaller, but, but he's so close to Cedar Rapids, which is like, I don't know, 80 to a hundred thousand people. And I had to drive an hour and a half to get to a town that size. So I feel like I'm definitely more Midwest than he is. He's a big city, Midwest.

You definitely have more of a Midwest accent than he does. Oh, sweet. For sure, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's not a bad thing. Don't get self-conscious. Just definitely. He has a deeper voice too though, so it's harder.

He's a very... What? What's happening? Liam Neeson has a deeper voice too, but his accent is more obviously portrayed. I know, yeah. I just... I don't know. It's just...

If you have a more gravelly, deeper voice, it's harder to really get an accent. He's also super shy. Yeah. He says like fucking three words. Yeah. Hello, Brian.

He's a great guy. He's got to clean out his fucking garage, though. That's killing me. I do love Brian so so much but it gives me it gives me so much anxiety i want to come clean it for him do you do you remember and it was funny because i forgot until they brought it up on the podcast when we all climbed into it was a eurogen's van i don't have a van it's not a fucking van it's an suv okay you would go there yeah after 18 hours of drinking at the live hard live easy it was a van and he's not sliding doors yeah it did not and he's sitting there and like i think i was in the thing behind him you were in the i think you were shotgun or shotgun and he was just sitting there and like i think i was in the thing behind him you were in the i think you were shotgun or shotgun and he was just sitting there and he couldn't figure it out and like start right

oh my god it was one of the funniest things in the world because we're all just so confused why we're not going yet and i've like i yelled out of my thing or you which really confuses me because why like don't you have to push the brake down anytime you start a car? Or is that not the case? No, I don't think you do. That or you have to have the steering wheel, like, maybe. No, actually, I haven't driven anything with a key in it. No, because I can, I still have an old, like, my car's 2007 and I'll get in through the passenger.

If I'm just, like, dropping my lunch pail off and, like, starting it up from the passenger side i'll do that sometimes it does have to be in park though it's gotta be in park yeah okay okay i guess i back to following the rules i guess i was taught that you need to have the brake on when you start it because no that makes always like a chance that it could jump forward i guess i maybe i but it was just so funny just all of us just yelling at him can you fucking hear what you're doing oh poor ryan and just so everyone knows that we just talked about two separate ryan's and like the span of 30 seconds nope that was all the same ryan all the same ryan what oh i thought it was like why did i think it was jacked and ginger that was the one driving the car okay no my bad no it was

definitely monkey nope he stayed that all that all comes back yeah that makes sense now that that all that all tracks i got you yeah took us back to the hotel where we continued to drink way much more we're still drinking when i was freaking getting up to go to the damn airport yeah probably uh so keith you got another question on there. Yeah, well, I can round this out. So this may or may not become a recurring question. Big Jen, what is your favorite movie? Who can? You don't have currently.

What's your current favorite movie? That's fine. It's like you have druthers. However you want to answer it. I don't care. Okay, so I'm not going to say one of my favorite movies that's fine it's like you have druthers however you want to answer it i don't care dude you okay so i'm not gonna say one of my favorite movies because i you're gonna fuck up my my end of the okay that's fine we're good moving on

i will say i have a handful of movies that i i freaking love okay well give me like three that are really really good i love young frankenstein i can watch that over and over oh i want to glaze this give me a second i don't know what that even is unless it's the one with the little dog or that's like frankenweenie i don't jesus christ i don't know i just made her so i made her so bad i don't know is this like a 1960s movie i don't know. Is this like a 1960s movie? I don't know. You want to get striked? I don't know. What was the website? What's your website? If you search in the Discord,

I search. Yeah, you can find it. I definitely haven't read it. I've never seen it. I love Silence of the Lambs. Yeah, I like that. Those are so different movies. I know. I'd say Silence of the Lambs um yeah i like that's a good movie those are so different movies no i know i'm probably uh i'd say silence of lambs is seven out of ten i could guess that's what i

i feel like the the i love i'm either loving comedies or i'm loving um like thrillers like science of the lambs like seven or or um yeah what's in the box I just figure I the whole reason I was debating on this being like a a reoccurring segment just asking someone because like answer it however you want you can give me five you can give me one uh everyone's giving me so much shit about movies

I want to hear other people's fucking opinions on movies and like uh you know like you know maybe I'll judge you guys on your fucking movies i don't know it's so i just it's so hard did you try and create a whole segment for the sole purpose of revenge no but literally don't let him fucking lie he does that would just happen i think i i think at the time i was just like looking through the notes i was like i don't know how much we got here let me throw in an extra thing because I got one bit I basically asked a question

so I don't know oh I get I do get I do see your point though Keith like I want people to watch certain movies that just cracked me the hell up or and they and they don't have the time or can't and I'm like oh you guys are missing out I want you to watch things so bad I've said Stuber like three times in the in the disc part and nobody will either watch it or know what it is super is the adam sandler halloween one right no it that's it's not no we i'm not the only one this is a wrestler one yeah stuber is the one then with uh it's a indian comedian yeah't think of his name and Batista I've seen

Stuber it was great I think I added it to my watch list actually I love it now you have to add Young Frankenstein I want to see it that's a classic oh and Gene Wilder Tommy brought up

with the chicken he brought up the the mit with a chicken what um he brought up um the don knots movie with the oh yeah he said that i was i have i wanted to google it that's fucking insane that he brought that up i know about it but i've never seen it mr i can't even think of the name right now but i have it made me giggle that he thought it was scary well he also wasn't sure if he was even remembering that it was a thing or not too that was the funny part because he was like this might not be a thing but if it is this is kind of hilarious i gotta i gotta kick out on that so yeah so keith keith so young frankenstein jean wilder plays frankenstein i gotcha. So it's comedy. It is 94%

on Rotten Tomatoes. 8 out of 10 on IMDb. And I'm just, for some reason, drawing a blank on the director, but it's Mel Brooks. Yeah, it's Mel Brooks. I can't say you'll love it, because you have a studio based on movies,

but you might like this one it's a lot of it's such I don't like this segment already I'm so happy you laughed at that because I was like it's such a dank my self-inflicted punishment I created a segment out of revenge and now they're

getting me for it what are you coding right now? it's more curious when someone asks me my favorite movie i have like three that i'll go to like they wrote like those are these are my three movies that are wait i want to hear them oh it's uh the crow life is a house and point break and i don't give a shit what anyone says those are all instrumental movies from my childhood wait i watch now they might not be 10 out of 10, but they were. The Crow.

The Crow I don't watch once a year, maybe twice a year. Still have a bit of an issue with it because it is a revenge flick. But having read all the comics from James O'Barr, I love The Crow. It is a fridging movie or bridging. One of those two words where they they use sexual assault of a woman in order to make the male seem stronger that is the thing they do in that movie is the thing they used to do in the 90s it is hard to watch i hate that part but it's a movie it's a great movie can't find the second one yeah what was the second movie? The Crow City of Angels. Oh, sorry. I meant Keith.

But The Crow City of Angels is just not available. Apple Music doesn't have it. Crave doesn't have it. I don't have it on DVD. I can send you a streaming link. You just have to kill a bunch of pop-ups and it's bootleg as fuck. Maybe, because I actually kind of remember liking that movie.

And then there was another one where I think god who played like they were like there was like five and they all uh all in all i think they got much worse yes they did the third one there was a series well the series was fantastic yeah i gotta get back about to nerd out about to nerd out mark dakaskas played the crow it was filmed in toronto um jen's giving me a bit of a shake of the head did you watch the latest john wick movie john wick four are you looking at me because no no you haven't seen any john wick movies okay so i have i have but after i they're my husband and sons that's their okay that's their date so he was actually in john wick three mark dacascos and then he was in something else pretty big recently too he's an older dude now oh he was in uh well he was in the fucking martial arts show on hbo uh

he was like the buddy of the other gang uh he was in warrior yeah warrior yeah he was that was that was a fucking sad when they had to when they had to face off at the end and they had to essentially like take out his like mentors fuck yeah tv none the less we can uh yeah let's get off this okay okay real quick but joey like yeah the rape scenes sopranos when my gosh, there's a rape scene in Sopranos that my husband and I still talk about. It was horrific. I can't do it. I can't hear it. I can't. that era where it's just like you sacrifice the female to make the the audience mad so they get behind the protagonist it's called bridging or bridging or fridging if i can remember the fucking phrase one day i'll get to it there's another movie too i'm not going to say the name um i can't remember i know her name god it's just right there and it's one of the most brutal things in the world i remember watching it just being the maddest i've ever been in my life so there are just certain movies that you just

you shouldn't watch but the crow is unfortunately it does have that in it i still watch it every year about the crow is the wasn't there the whoever died someone died on the side yeah yeah randomly died yeah like i saw this on a bruce lee i can show you that i can show you the scene like i know everything about that movie and that soundtrack speaking of spooky ryan joining us for a second here that soundtrack was actually the introduction to goth and heavy metal music to an entire generation of young people that was it had nine inch nails it had the cure it had pantera it had all of these heavy and some of these not heavy but gothic music that like there's an entire i think i once read like a like a 12 page essay on

how this just like changed like the world of music for people of that era and i'll agree it introduced me to a lot of cool stuff i can listen to that yelly music because it's not as yelly no no yeah me and ryan listen to stuff like the joke morgan says is like you listen to goblin metal like if it doesn't if it doesn't sound like a demon coming out of hell you're not interested and i'm like right i want to be able to sing along i want to hear the words actually that's a fun thing i was listening to slaughter to prevail and my mom was in the car so slaughter to prevail is a this is just a funny story that anybody who listens to metal will laugh at sorry guys you're gonna be bored for a second. And there's a Russian part where he sings in Russian,

but in the deep, growly, like, death metal voice. And my mom turns to me, she goes, how do you listen to this shit? You can't understand him. No, she says, how do you listen to this shit? I can't understand him. And I went, yeah, I don't speak Russian either. And and she was like it's not what i fucking meant you idiot i thought that was the funniest because she just happened to say it right when he was speaking russian throughout the rest of the

english song i thought that was really funny anyway spooky ryan keeps fucking with us He's chatting Who chats? He's chatting us Okay so just heads up he says Nessio Hoblikin Has an actual goblin Are you saying Necro Goblin? I'm guessing this is Iowa Ryan right? It's gotta be

Yeah sorry Necro Goblin Just come off mute you psycho Anyway NecroGoblin. Just come off mute, you psycho. Anyway. NecroGoblicon. Actually, I've never heard of NecroGoblicon. They don't have a real goblin. Goblins don't exist. It's gotta be an orc. You know what does exist?

Our game. Unpaid or underrated that we are gonna move into so we can keep this under three and a half hours for everyone. Bullshit. This is Jen. Let's go three and a half hours for everyone. Bullshit. This is Jen. Let's go three and a half hours. No. I get it. But I'm... He's tired. We still have like 45 minutes to go. So let's power through.

Good thing I don't have to work tomorrow. I do. I wish. I wish I didn't. I have an office day, but I still gotta go in. I almost just accidentally left the meeting because I was trying to get rid of Ryan's comments. Yeah, when shit pops up up i'm just like stop stop i don't want to look at that uh so big jen you're familiar with unpaid or underrated i'm assuming we don't need to go into the rules you know what you're allowed to do what you're not allowed to do and at the end

of the day it's really all about the druthers so unpaid or underrated let let's go with Bar Soap. What is your opinion on Bar Soap? I think, so we had this on a main podcast, right? Not too long ago, or at least Tanner was talking about it and Tanner and Tommy had this discussion. I'm going to go

underrated because I just, I don't know. It's easier to travel with. I think it's cheaper. And yeah, I just, I just think it's underrated. I use it. My husband uses it. My son's the only one that's still using the actual body wash, but you'll get over it.

I hate body wash. i only buy bar soap and now everybody's in that the brick soap and i'm so into that it's just giant fucking bricks i like i just like that i like the smell i like i like it all it's less wasteful i i try to be conscious of all those things recycling and all that stuff so it's just more environmentally friendly no yeah i only got a long time like because so like well i guess i'll dig into that one like so i get you and your husband share the same bar but like i guess are you just lathering up what no you do have your own bars because that was when you said like i was like does she want her son to use her own soap i'm so confused like the people

like so you have dedicated this is his soap this is her soap this is my first of all we have dedicated bathrooms so him and him and my son have the okay the other bathroom and i have my they don't touch my soaps okay well, well, I think historically that's why they're grossed out by bar soap. It's because, like, I'm not putting that bar soap where you put it. But I'm assuming people that would share would just lather up the washcloth with it. Wait, wait, wait. I don't think that people share, do they? Wait.

I don't know. Wait. I've never, I haven't used bar soap. Is the argument is that you think your soap is dirty after someone uses it? If you put your soap in your asshole and the next person puts the soap on their face, that's really gross and dirty. Do you understand what soap is? And shit particles? Do you understand what soap is?

Like, it doesn't take, it doesn't evaporate shit. Or cooter juice, like, I don't, like okay i get i get we're solely talking like washing your arms your feet your chest your legs but like you're washing your what are you using to wash your private parts soap and like because that's what are putting it on a washcloth? Or are you putting the bar of soap directly on your genitals and then giving it to your spouse and say, put this on your face. So do you think if you wash your hands

after using the bathroom... I refuse to use bars of soap in a bathroom. That's disgusting, because who knows what the other person did with it. But you know, soap can't be dirty. It's soap. It exists. Someone whose extremely dirty hand touches it and then

just like it's inherently dirty. They have dirty hands and then what do they do? What do they do with the soap with their dirty hands? Well typically, yeah. They're not washing the bar of soap. Bar of soap is still contaminated. It still washes itself. It's it's so but i do i'm

thinking more like the construction zone like greasy i i and there's like i can visually see shit still on the bar so i understand the mental aspect of what you're talking about but the scientist the scientist part of me and the physical aspect of me doesn't see it. It's soap. It's dedicated purposes, clean things. So it cannot be dirty in its own self because all you have to do is then run it underwater because it will wash itself when you run it underwater. Assuming that person does that. No, you're going to do that.

You're not going to take a dry bar of soap and be like, I hope someone's ass wasn't on this and put it on your face. I've got to take key side that I'm not, I don't like when people just have bar soap though to wash your hands in their bathroom. It's all I use. It's all I use. I don't know for some reason, but in the shower, that's what I use.

It's also what I use in the shower, but nobody uses my shit because it smells like rotting plants. Right if I did share with my husband he would have to have his own bar okay well so to harken back to friends they do have a of an episode that's what's the last thing that you wash and the first thing that I wash and they're like oh that's where I was that's where I was kind of going with that as well because i just kind of uh so yeah well number two for me i'm gonna ask you about your husband's pillow is that unpaid or underrated my husband's pillow he he told me there was yeah i had like a whole like story about it and i thought it was gonna be witty and funny.

He gave you a pillow as a gift. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah. Smartass. Okay. Okay. So my husband had, I know what he's saying now. So my husband had a MyPillow.

Have you ever heard of MyPillow? Wasn't it like What's His Face selling it? The famous guy. Anyway, so he had a MyP my pillow and I'm like oh so he decided for Christmas one year back to this gift thing he got me a gift and I opened it up and it's a my pillow and I'm like what in the hell is this shit? And secondly, it was the wrong size for the pillow cover that I had.

So of course it stuck out. And I was so angry. It almost caused a divorce. My pillow. Fast forward. Oh, that makes sense. I got you. So fast forward.

Oh my god, did he send you my pillow and you wrote husband pillow probably hell yes that's that's partially my mistake that's funny that he remembers it though

no it definitely added a level of hilarity to this this is great but then years years pass and i think he was gone or he was on nights and i used his pillow once i'm like oh that x is actually pretty nice so we give each other shit about it oh that's funny i don't think you could have done that on purpose and made it funnier that was fantastic so it is underrated they are underrated so if you don't have a mind pillow i feel you should invest it doesn't even say it doesn't even say your husband's it just says husband pillow it's really hard to like paste a bunch of shit

it's a fucking pain in the ass you think i'm making fun of you but i'm loving it it's fantastic i got one thing for jen i'm so we'll do a little side tangent here not a tangent but um are you so historically do you people consider you hard to buy gifts for like like in general like is it just your husband that fucks up or is everyone i think i think my husband is a bad gift giver and then part part two of that have you judged and disliked every crew gift from tanner and tommy you know you sound like you're so hard to please if you like those at least. No, because I think that I am the simplest person to buy for. Because honestly, if you would just take me out to dinner or take me out to something that I didn't have to plan, which my husband should freaking know that by now, I don't

need a gift. So don't buy me whatever. Presents over presents, right? so don't buy me whatever presence over presence right or buy me something for the gym or something like that it's not i'm i'm not complicated i think he makes it too complicated gotcha okay so i will round out my last one here let's go with uh barbie's i'm assuming i don't i guess um let's see okay they're they're they're okay i know why this is on there because i think i added this to my show notes like six months ago when well under just like potential guests I had, I would like to keep a running thing. So I think you said something in Discord months ago, but I could be completely wrong.

Oh, I would figure maybe it was my brother that said something. I could have swore you said something in Discord that I latched onto of like, oh, this will be a good. I don't know that I've ever talked about Barbies, but. Maybe I'm making it up. I don't know. I, if you guys haven't noticed, i'm a little bit tom boyish so um so i didn't like barbies when people would buy me barbies so my brother and i actually had me well oh yeah maybe is that where the uh so getting bad gifts uh originated from is getting a bunch of barbies as a kid and being like, don't you know I don't like these?

Well, maybe. But my brother and I had, we had like all the wrestling figurines, you know what I'm talking about? So anytime anybody would buy us a Barbie, they would be like the ring girl or like nice you know their girlfriends or whatever so I had tons of barbies that either one didn't have any hair because I would cut all their hair off or didn't have clothes or um but also the ones that I did keep their hair I learned how to french braid on a barbie which is it's really So then anytime we would go to like softball games and stuff in high school, I'd braid all the girl's hair on the way to, on the way to wherever we were going to play the game that night. Nice. Yeah. So I guess I didn't even answer. So yeah.

So unpaid or underrated? I think obviously, causebie can't be underrated she's she is appropriately rated very high um so she has to be she has to be unpaid for me because i don't know i don't need her no that makes sense i'm i'm more than anything i'm just kicking myself from like where the fuck because i honestly think the bar of soap and barbie that had been beside your name on my show notes for literal months and like to and i just threw them on there because it's like this this had to make sense at some point but yeah i think i might have talked about how my brother and i use use them for like the the wrestlers girlfriends and stuff that makes sense well and then i added barbells. So there was Barsoap, Barbies, and Barbells. I do see that.

But that's also just a good podcast name. Keith can file that under all of his future podcast names. Yeah, for his future podcast. That was a funny meme. That was a really good meme. I guess I can take over yeah the last three as usual all

right okay unpaid or underrated pumpkin spice well okay i'm gonna have to say on if i follow my follow the rules it's unpaid because it's so so many people rate it so highly and literally everything is pumpkin spice like your bar soap your your bounty sheet your laundry detergent your whatever is freaking pumpkin spice now with that said when it comes around every time i you better bet that i'm gonna go get a pumpkin spice latte damn right me too me too it's so good flavored anything is so good i open this the starbucks app and i'm like oh pumpkin spices are on it's all fucking head down like it's a family outing because i want my pumpkin spice latte it is so delicious pump so try a latte with pumpkin spice and white chocolate together it's it's next level

all right i'm in i don't like whipped cream no no it's not whipped cream no no no i know i know it's a white chocolate flavoring my brain is trying to focus that much sweetener. Well, then say half. Half sweet. Yeah. Okay. There's a couple on here and I just added one. I'm going to do the one I just added because it's probably going to flop. Unpaid or underrated? Slipknot.

Yeah, I probably don't know. I know some of their songs. I'm going to say they're probably underrated because I don't think that they're highly rated. I think they're very highly rated. And they're from at least the lead singers from Iowa, right? The whole band's from Iowa.

Well, the original band is from Iowa. And actually, it's funny that Ryan's still here. He's probably... Because I asked him the same question question i think he was also very like i don't know why don't we listen to them i don't i don't really listen to them but the only heavy metal band from iowa like yeah and then but yeah so they had to be underrated because because of that reason but also because there's just not a ton of famous people from Iowa. So for someone to make it big coming from a smaller city or whatever, good for them. Right.

Hell yeah. Which one should I do here, Keith? We got a couple of them. They were all relevant. They were all imported, essentially, I think. Okay. You didn't add any of those, right? So all those should have a story. I'm going with the this one okay unpaid or underrated tattoos

with flowers in them i think shit you guys got me on this one i would say that all my tattoos have okay maybe not one of them but all most of my tattoos do have um do have some sort of flower design in it and i am back to the photographing i will be on my walks taking random pictures of random flowers in people's yard and they probably like what in the hell is she doing my yard taking a picture of this flower so love flowers um so i'm gonna maybe go off the rails here and not do it correctly but i'm gonna say that it's underrated even though i think every chick that has has a tattoo has some sort of flower somewhere flowers are gorgeous yes but also they're probably highly rated but I'm still gonna say they're underrated uh I yeah I love them um I got one

of my one of my good friends and I wonder if she's the one that put it on there her and I went for her 40th birthday and I got her a tattoo for her birthday so that day I let her open it up and I started driving there and she opened up her car and she's like are you shitting me and we went and got little little tattoos together little flowers so I think it's we made an experience of it so I think it's underrated well the good news is you've passed unpaid and underrated but I have a follow-up okay what's your favorite flower tulip is my favorite hibiscus i can see that hibiscus is a close second because they're just so beautiful but and so delicious i'm not i don't love eating eating flowers but like or lavender in my food or anything like that.

Okay, so that's fun. Did you know you can eat daylilies? I didn't. Oh, so Moav actually, for some reason, found out you could. And she once made the fucking daylily-like buds. And then she stuffed it with cream cheese and deep fried it in batter so day lilies end up tasting like peppery okay but they're fully edible so you see like eating i was like i don't eat flowers and she's like you're about to and it was amazing

what isn't a squash technically a flower oh no you can eat the flour on the squash right yeah also she did those two once stuffed like yeah so so people ask me about the tulips because i'm from a city we are a huge tourist city town i guess and our town is a little over 10 000 and but during our tulip festival it's a three-day festival and it like 10 times we get hundreds of thousands of people in our town because we have the whole town is just filled with tulips and it is not one of my favorite times of year but I love it a tulip because it's just so simple so a white classic tulip so we get all the varieties here but the white classic just tulip is is so beautiful well you have dutch matt's attention because they have their big i'm also big brad he's from

holland michigan and they also have a tulip festival not quite as cool as ours but shout out brad i'm i'm partial to daffodils but not because of the flower themselves but because of what they signify okay spring is coming winter is over the daffodils are out it's just one of my favorite things and they just smell delicious and the Mayflower is coming means that

the mushrooms are coming we go mushroom hunting a lot we forage them yeah I love mushrooms but foraging is kind of cool but mayflowers also bring pilgrims um yep all right we're listening pete there again i'm here i think the next segment is you get to ask us something okay all right so i had a question prepared a long time ago when you guys started doing that, ask the host questions. So I'm going to ask that, but I have a theme. So

you'll just have to go with me. The one doesn't match the other thing, but I need it. We won't, we won't judge you if they don't match. It's not. Okay. So the, the one that I had from a long time ago is, if you could wake up tomorrow to be an expert at a new skill, what skill would you choose? And I'm going to say it can't be like some superhero crap. It has to be like a skill that a human can do. Whatever. I don't know. It could be. Yeah, don make like no make then you I don't want you to fly or something like that I want it to be a real skill yeah I wish I'd picked it up when I was younger when I had the chance when my brother was picking it up and he could have taught me the guitar is the one thing I wish I had learned it like if there was a skill I could plug into the back of my head and learn within seconds, it would be guitar.

Yeah, that's cool. I've had a couple of people say instruments. I like asking this question. Yeah. What do you think, Keith? Something that could just, I mean, I would, I guess I'd pop out and be like something that I could turn around and make a, you know, make a million dollars a year out of just by like being an expert at one thing. I don't know what that one thing would be but if i take that out of the equation something i just want to be better at that's a trick i could think about that all day or useful like things that you pay for that you just wish you didn't have to pay for what if you just thought about being happy for a second yeah and not just about rich yeah we're successful just being happy for a minute something that would make you happy

or you didn't have to pay for some things i just i guess i would say like i don't know just having a i don't know i'm not even rich just like i wish i could provide more for my family like i i i am like a jack of all i i basically know how to do a lot of things not well but i so like as far as like my career i can't i can't be an electrician i can't be a plumber or anything like that because i'm not like licensed or like overly trained or skilled in anything but i like so i'll just be stuck on general labor jobs for the rest of my life potentially so i wish i had not fucked around in high school and college and actually like went into a trade where i could like be proud of how much money i bring home versus kind of just being like oh i guess i'll take whatever job i can find so really anything like

any skill that i could have just been yeah any because i i'm like a light electrical i do electrical every day but it's not like i'm not a licensed electrician so i can't like you know go out and make 50 an hour so i'm stuck making what I'm making so something like that I guess because I'd have to really that's too deep of a question to be like what for me to have an answer no for me it is I don't like so

I don't like change so that question gives me extreme anxiety why couldn't you be a master electrician then well then there you go that's perfect like why couldn't you be a master fucking cat petter like you just every cat in the world loves you like you could have thought of anything or yeah happy well that probably would have had a different answer two hours ago everyone like when we when we get to these last segments it's literally like 11 30 and i'm

i'm sorry no no no i've this has been one of the most fun podcasts ever i'm not i'm not complaining i'm just more giving an excuse of why i'm a stick in the mud more than usual i'll tell you what my husband picked um yes like a seamstress so so like to be able to sew and oh yeah that's that's a good one yeah he's like that way i could hem my own pants i could if you wanted the shirt you can be like i'll just make you this shirt yeah i think which we debated on this one but i really wanted to be able to speak a second language so i wish i could wake up tomorrow and be able to speak a second language preferably probably spanish because we have so many i have spanish people that i work with and be easy to just i'll let you in on a quick hint spanish is probably the easiest one

to learn well yes and i did take several classes when i was in high school when my son they don't hide anything here in english we have so many rules and everything's different in spanish it's like if it's there you pronounce it go also i feel like it would it would like be a stepping stone to learn others. Yes, because you can go to French and Latin. Yeah. Okay, so now it's my theme. So since we're getting so close to the... Sorry, Joey, I know you already had Thanksgiving, but our holiday season, I know you're getting ready for Black Friday and Christmas.

So Thanksgiving is probably one of my favorite holidays just because it's family and food you don't have to worry about damn kids but then um but I do like the whole season of Christmas because it's so fun and pretty and there's all a bunch of traditions so let's let's start with the one that we kind of you kind of already hinted at but what's your favorite holiday movie and it doesn't have to be for thanksgiving or or christmas but your favorite holiday movie nightmare before christmas for me i hate musicals and i don't really enjoy animated movies but it's a classic and my kid is now into it yeah my son loves it yeah it would be that one for sure jingle all the way is up there

okay yeah yeah that's definitely a good it's a it's a good arnie movie it's a good action movie it's a good funny movie it's funny um but yeah that would be those two what about you keith i guess i like i like scrooge that was a decent one uh we're just good yeah that was definitely like more of the person i mean like i'll watch a lot of them uh i mean i don't know i was like there's a i can't think of the there's one movie that's like it's a complete and odd person to be like the background's christmas so i it's kind of like where do you draw the line of what's a christmas there's a christmas we have to be about the holiday i didn't say that it had to be christmas oh that's true but like what other holidays have movies like valentine's day i'm sure you asked me

my favorite movie my favorite movie of all time is planes trains and animals and i watch it every single year i freaking love that movie. But also I love Groundhog Day. And I watch that almost every single year too. Two huge holiday movies that I love. Are there any Easter movies that aren't like three hours long? They're all biblical obviously but is there any

actual Hallmark Easter movies? I'm sure. The Lifetime Channel and all that shit or right like a hallmark interesting thing though yeah i think there was even like these so the original uh was was like the really famous you'll shoot your eye out oh yeah christmas story i like i think there was like a shitty sequel that was about easter i mean so like like a really shitty i could have swore there was no there was the sequel to christmas story that came out last year i think that was

actually the same actor like and it's like 60 that was pretty shitty movie but it was still somewhat nostalgic but i could have swore there was they did like an easter one that kind of bombed but i don't remember completely mistaken but you probably are you're probably thinking of when he was a bunny oh yeah honestly yeah good call that is 100 i think where i went with that okay well okay i know i know it's getting late so i got okay don't worry no don't i'm i'm the problem not you what's your favorite holiday food then stuffing thanksgiving stuffing good moist thanksgiving stuffing 100 he's a moist like he likes a good moist stuffing who doesn't i'm with you that is my dad will make this like a sausage stuffing oh my god freaking love it i'm a huge fan of mashed potatoes but i'll eat mashed potatoes

all the time so but stuffing you only i only get at the holiday so well okay so my lab is from an area called chatham kent which is um kind of like canadian um native and french and they make a meat pie called a tortilla okay and she does um like modifications like she does a different version yeah um so it's usually meat pie whatever meat uh i encourage her to use bison bison as much as possible but she's done everything from turkey to beef chicken but she'll add like like a pot pie essentially a pot pie but it's just a little different because it's a sweet meat pie and oh it's fantastic yeah it's i would try it obviously i'm chilling in cinnamon roll fam so i'd try it yeah and actually i think you'd you'd love it but she's

like she's put pumpkin chunks in it um every year she does um well the past couple of years she's really into uh chestnuts because she'll go the store we go to does like just chestnuts and she'll just crack them open roast them and throw them into the pie so it's it's become tortier because a i love the shit out of my wife and b i love meat pies in general so it would be the tortier so if you look up tortier it's okay insane t-o-u-r-t-i-e-r-e like it's ridiculous but it would be that one okay i wrote it down and keith by the way do you do you eat stuffing or dressing i it's stuffing i who said like a dressing is a thing so i think stuffing actually supposedly supposed to come out of the inside yeah the stuffing has to come out of the turkey's ass

so i like dressing dressing it'd be like stovetop almost right we use the drippings of the yeah i know there's i've my my mother-in-law oh no not stove top though don't eat that well i yeah but i mean there is yeah like that's that's why like you can you can quote unquote get stuff you can't really get stuffing outside of having turkey in my opinion because that's like the right the way my the way my mother-in-law always makes stuff it definitely goes back into the turkey carcass for however long to like absorb the shit I'm guessing. So if it doesn't, if it doesn't do that, I guess it is dressing.

Okay. I, that's what I think, but okay. Okay. Last question. Favorite holiday tradition or, or memory. memory? Me probably going to my grandparents on Christmas Eve and like my whole family was there. We'd always do Christmas Day at my, like my family and stuff. I guess it's like circuit as a kid and that's something I've done in like 25 years, but just like Christmas Eve and my grandparents and all my aunts and my uncles and my siblings, cousins and all that, that that was that was always fun um and kind of like once they got older and kind of people didn't like they couldn't handle having people over and stuff everything kind of changed and like my whole

like family dynamic kind of went away like from what it was growing up so like i missed that because that was just like the most like when i think of like what i enjoyed being part of my family the most it was like that era when like everyone was like she's still in that age group kind of and like everyone like my like my grandparents were still like vital or uh like they had their yeah faculties and everything so I very much missed that more than I so I guess that kind of doesn't that answers it I guess yeah it does I like it it's actually yeah you're the serious Goose episode I think we've had. Because it's insane. And we only said cunt 17 times.

Going to my grandma's, because when my parents separated, I would go to my paternal grandma, Mary. It's the second time she's come up tonight. I would go to her house every Christmas day. she's come up tonight, I would go to her house

every Christmas day. So I would wake up with my mom and my brothers. We would have our Christmas, but then I would go there because he wasn't, he was only my dad. He wasn't their dad. Yeah. So I would go there to have Christmas with them.

And it was always, you know, at the time, it was always you know at the time it was fine obviously there was stuff happening that wasn't fine but the day I think I was um god I don't remember how old I was but I was old enough to remember when my grandma said I don't think I can do Christmas this year and that was when we knew something was wrong yeah and you never knew what you had you never knew how important it was and at the time I was I had to be like I want to say I was a teenager or in my 20s I I was like, okay, it's fine.

I'll see you next year. And then it took a month or two to go, no, wait a minute. She takes this shit very seriously. Something's up. Because she wasn't going to tell anybody that she was sick. So yeah. I would say that it's definitely that. Which harkens back to our friend brian who you never know what you have till you don't have it anymore right that's so true okay i'm

gonna i'm gonna that was that was a serious story first of all i felt like like yeah my grandma was a huge part of my life but i just had to bring it back to silliness because this is the unpaid and underrated movie. Okay. No crying. There's no crying in baseball. I was waiting. I was like, that's the most serious he's been.

That was very emotional. I don't want to do that on this podcast, but I missed a shit on my grandma. I think Jen's going to bring back some levity for us. We named my daughter after my grandma. Awesome. So i'm sorry i'm gonna go a little serious goose but then i'll wrap it here we go i'll wrap it up with the hilarious story okay but i actually thought my brother would bring up but he didn't so but so my yes tradition was we always went to my paternal grandparents on Christmas Eve and I freaking loved it I love that it's night and the lights are it's dark so the lights look great I just

love it so much and it was just it was just them and my small family and then um and then on the way home my parents would see like a plane fly by and say that it was Santa and his reindeer. You know, so we had to make sure we got home in time to get to bed so that Santa could come. But same aspect, Joey. So my grandpa was very proud of his Christmas lights. And he went out to turn his lights on one year and came back in. And unfortunately he, he passed away in front of us on Christmas Eve, but it was hard.

He was a big part of my life too, but I'm hoping that I can continue the tradition with my family on Christmas Eve, because even though it's hard, it's still a great memory and I hope I can sorry guys you're good no this is your platform it's just memories are all we have Jen when we're not here it's important that somebody remembers who we are. And the fact that you're doing that, I know it's hard right now and it's sad, but like, it's, it's genuinely the most important thing we can do for the people that came before us. Yep.

So I have already told my son that when he's married, I got, I'm like, you can have Christmas day. You're, you're in, you can be in love. Can I, can I, can I please just have Christmas?. You can be in love. Can I please just have Christmas Eve? That's all I want. Anyway. I'll bring us back so none of us can cry anymore.

We have this game we like to play. There's this game that Tanner likes to play. We're all crying. I really thought my brother might bring this up, but this is one of my greatest holiday memories ever um okay so my brother and I we're we're really tight and we we always got a lot of gifts together because like I said I was a tomboy so we would like hey let's get a Nintendo

let's let's ask them for this so that we could get something even better but um one year all we wanted was all we wanted was remote control boats okay and don't forget i live in iowa so it's super ass cold in the winter so when do we get these boats we get them for freaking christmas okay so we get them for christmas and of course now we have these remote control boats that we can't do anything with for months so i remember it was probably probably you know first spring or first signs of spring there's just enough ice melted off this pond by my by my grandpa's farm that we could go bring these boats out there. So my dad takes my brother and I out with our new boats. And, you know, obviously freezing,

still freezing us cold. But months later, after Christmas, we finally get to open them up. We put them out on the pond, we're driving them around. And then all of a sudden, one of them starts kind of going in a circle and i'm like dad you know we can't control it anymore and the next thing you know the other one is going in a circle and so these boats we we've lost all control these remote controlled boats and next thing you know you see them just spin spin spin and then they do the death titanic thing where the oh no the noses go up and they just sink oh wow i have such a memory of my dad going

saluting them to their you know eternal parade oh my god it has been my favorite memory of my entire life i can't wait my brother didn't say that that's hysterical yeah no we didn't get that one think of it every time that christmas that's great so it's like what are you gonna going to do? You're going to go after them. Well, those are fun while they lasted. That was definitely a more cheerful, icy water story than what Big Waffle gave us last month. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Nobody lost any thighs on that one.

Nope. I even remember they were black and yellow. Poor little goats. Who was that? Was that a gift from your parents? Yeah, it was from our parents. And was that

one of the bigger, was that a big bulk of your entire Christmas too? Actually, my parents, so I told you before that we felt like we didn't have a ton of stuff when we were growing up but always Christmas time they both worked at the same company that I work at actually but always got really good bonuses around Christmas so they'd spoil us rotten it at Christmas time yeah I didn't grow up with a ton either,

but my mom always made sure Christmas was special. Yeah. I remember the one time she showed up with every Power Ranger toy. She had all of them, the five Rangers. Nice. And then the following year, she showed up with every Kiss toy

because I was into Kiss suddenly. And then the following year was every Spice Girl doll. I got everything ever for Christmas because my mom just made sure. Yep. I love it. Because Christmas had to matter then. We're going into

November. Going into November hot. Woo! Alright. You guys ready to dive in? I think I'm ready to dive right in. Dive right in. I think it's probably a good time to bring this to a landing if everyone's, anyone's,

was that the last thing you had, Jen? And on that positive note of the thinking ships, because I think that was... Ryan, do you have anything you want to add? You're still here, you psycho. Yeah, sneaking up on us. He's probably stuck in a hotel with nothing else to do. He's not even listening.

Yeah, I don't know if he's just there. He just left it there and walked away. Fucking guy. I'm going to kick him out in a minute. Actually, can I just kick him out? He's good, apparently. Oh, I'm good. All right, cool.

Well. I'm good. We're good cool. Well. I'm good. We're good. All right. So I've been Big Joey. Fuck it. Like I said, I say it every month, every week, every month, every if you're once a month. If you listen to this, you're following me already.

If you're listening to this and don't follow me, figure it out. How about you guys? Go ahead and follow the website it's unpaid and underrated.com something like that we got an instagram it's out there i'm big keith he's gonna get 73 go follow my worst gym then a wine cellar and uh big gen where they're gonna find you um you can get me at get strong gen 24 maybe someday stay strong gen 24 but for now stay stronggen24. But for now, get stronggen24 on Instagram. And everybody, don't forget to follow BrianJ1008 just to make sure that, you know,

he knows that we miss him. We miss you, man. I wish you were still here. He brought us a lot of good memories, though. Soon we'll be recapping his memories and sad voices. Yep. soon we'll be recapping his memories inside Voices well Brian we'll go ahead and see you next Tuesday buddy