Unpaid And Underrated - 030 : də̇ˈkō(ə)r

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big David. They dive right into great topics like, are you the british one?, skinny koozies, names in the discord, engineering, contest winning and smoking meats. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @bandofdruthers_d (https://www.instagram.com/band_of_druthers_d/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big David.

all right everybody welcome back on a thursday to episode 401 of the unpaid and underrated podcast the podcast by crew for crew about crew and heavily mocked by the discord crew i am big joey because when you're here you're always big if we have any new listeners uh and i'm joined by big keith how we doing howdy and our good buddy big david one of the davids i'm not sure which one yet but we'll get into it later tonight how's it going welcome welcome to unpaid and underrated my friend good to be here it was going great until i just clued in that i'm out i don't have a koozie so i've got koozie i've got beer and cans and like my poor hands i'm still waiting for him to come out with the uh the mick ultra koozie that fits the uh the skinny cans and until then i think i

actually added like an orange skinny koozie on amazon wishlist for christmas but i kind of hope i don't get it because i don't need more reasons to drink because the the fucking the thursday the friday mornings after drinking three or four beers on here i'm useless like my entire day is wasted it's just like i just i might as well just wake up saturday because that's about as good as my friday is going to be but uh speak so since we're talking about that uh what are you drinking tonight, Big David? Let me grab it right here and open it up. I've got a Kirkland brand grapefruit sparkling water. Oh, nice.

A fan of the Costco drinks right here. Yeah, I like them. I'd say they're kind of like in between LaCroix and bubbly, flavor-wise. More flavor than a LaCroix, but not as flavorful as a bubbly. Not essenced. Yeah.

It's more essenced, but not crazy. I have a new bubbly this week. I think it is actually called just bubbly. It is there just unflavored sparkling water and similar to, what is it? The,

what's the one that Joey likes? That's, that's unflavored. The liquid death. Yeah. So it actually, I think it's better than that. Like it is very,

it's just like drinking like pure water. No, so it's, it's, I don't know if you had your headphones in, Joey, but it's an unflavored bubbly. Just bubbly. And it's amazing. Yeah?

I think it's amazing. But I'm also extremely thirsty, so it could just be like, hey, water, this is great. But I don't know. There's no aftertaste or anything. It's just nice and crisp. Alright. I guess I'm the only one drinking a beer as usual. I have from Grain only one drinking a beer as usual. I have from grain and grit.

We've had them on here before. I'm drinking a winter white stout. So this is a white or clear stout beer. water, barley, oats, wheat, cocoa nibs, candy canes, hops, peppermint, and yeast. And it is the thing I look forward to every

December. It is one of the best beers. It's what got me into Grain & Grain. I'm cracking one of them so I can feel bloated as shit. A little seasonal action. Yep. What are you wearing over there tonight,id anything good yeah so i i learned something listening to the last live episode or the last unpaid episode so what i'm wearing i don't think it's been on here yet it's the live fast t-shirt

which all the all the listeners will see it Decided to pull it out of the closet. It's a large, so it doesn't really fit me very well anymore. I don't really wear it too often, but special appearance for tonight. Yeah, the NASCAR shirt that reminisces from one of our early episodes with the Roll Tide action. Roll Tide.

I got a new one this week. I think it's one of their older well, not older, but it's a couple-year-old logo. But I never picked up the Lift Hard, Live Easy. When it, before the meet, I never really loved the shirt. I don't know why. Just because I, like, I'm not one that necessarily likes mixing my Living Hard and Living Easy. So, I didn't really get it until I kind of got it.

You know what I mean? Like, I got it in Aberdeen. But prior to that, like, no, I don't want to drink a beer and then go work out or anything like that. So, but, uh, after the lift hard to be easy, then, you know, this is the second thing closest to, uh, you know, a follow-up to that kind of, and like an, uh, a secondary meat shirt since it's their logo. So I was like, I had to pick it up. So here she is. Hey, I, I'm wearing a new one here. I've got the ouch.

Everything hurts. I received this one in the mail last week as a gift, actually. So, yeah, I didn't have it before this one. It's fitting for right now, isn't it? Yeah, everything hurts. Yeah. It's like right here. And it's like, of course, it's right before the meet.

It's just so that I can bomb the meet and have an excuse. We all do it. Throw a little compression on it during a squat. Well, you should be able to wear an elbow sleeve during squats and deadlifts, honestly, just not bench. So if the slightest little bit of compression takes away like 20% of the pain or 10% of the pain, that's worth it. So I'd look to see what the rules are for what you're allowed to wear for elbow sleeves during those lifts. I'll be fine as long as it stays on the bone. I'm just trying to help.

That's all, buddy. I appreciate it. But we're back, guys. For the listeners, last week, Nate and the boys came into your ears pretty hard, and this week it's just back to me, Joey, and the guests. So back to our regularly scheduled format. Let us know how you like the other episode. Currently, if you're listening to this, the poll might be over.

I'm not really sure. It all depends, but either way, go vote or go listen to last week's episode. See who won. Someone will get a bottle of Alemonia coming up in the next week or two. That was the first of potentially a few a year, however many Nate

wants to do. I'm always down to take a week off here and there. Cause it was bliss. It was crazy. Not recording last week. Like we didn't have, it was just not having something to do. Wow. I went like, you know, 13 days without having a podcast. That was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Totally nerve wracking because you know,

we've built this right with Nate's help. We've built the brand, we've built the format. And it's kind of like handing somebody else your baby and being like, please don't fuck this up. And they didn't. They did a really good job from what I've heard. You know, I just want to thank everybody for getting on there, having fun, making me laugh. I laughed a lot a couple times. So, you know, Nate can do this. Nate chooses not to. But Nate was really good on the microphone. I'll give him that.

Two things I need to clarify. And that is that, yes, the hosts did have hop water on the episode before we had hop water on. So I think there was a little bit of confusion there. Tanner brought some hop water on. So I think there was a little bit of confusion there. Tanner brought some hop water on. And also, I hate tea. I think Nate cracked a joke about sending me tea. Don't send me tea. I hate it. I won't drink it. Well, I mean, that's like Tanner sending me fucking Will Ferrell socks.

They're not going to send you something you want. Everything in this world is bits, gags, and jokes, and fucking ribbing. So that is what we do and what we are but yeah no i enjoyed it uh for clarity yeah nate could be on literally every episode if you wanted to be i think nate's in bed at 8 30 every night you know so i'm pretty sure he uh you know lost some brownie points with his old lady staying up to 11 o'clock recording a podcast a couple weeks ago so you know he uh does what he can and he probably spends more time editing than we do recording so appreciate you buddy yeah he did a good job leading it he's

he's definitely capable of hosting a show so it's good that he can step in sometimes like that yeah yeah and he did say something that really made me laugh when he said put less words on shirts i think if we ever do an unpaid and underrated shirt i'm gonna put i'm gonna fight to put put less words on shirts okay you guys can go on amazon and put anything you want on a shirt i actually uh if anyone saw me on instagram i did have a i did make my own unpaid underrated shirt on the fly because i wanted to have it for the crew falls meetup but unlike when i did them all for my gym and just had the hassle of like trying to get money from like 20 30 different people and then like dude i got i had some like it like gained some bitter relationship with people because i'm happy with people that like won't

pay me and shit and like or they said they want a shirt and i ordered it and then they don't want it after the fact it's like i don't know i'm not gonna deal with that so well we might we might figure out a way to like set up an online store and you can just buy through a printer or some shit or literally just message us for the, uh, the logos, you know, that I had on my shirt and then you can figure it out on your own on

Amazon. But, uh, it'd be worse. We could get everybody to send us money and then completely ghost them as heard on. I don't even, we're not naming names on that one.

All right. Should we rate last week's episode, which is what's last week's episode. Is that Pete Rubish? Yeah, it was Pete Rubish. Yeah. They, uh, it was, uh, it was a good one. Should we rate last week's episode? What's last week's episode? Is that Pete Rubish? Yeah, it was Pete Rubish. It was a good one. Everything blends together, really. Especially with last night.

Honestly, we could just rate last night's fucking episode because it's more fresh in my brain. But the Pete Rubish episode, yeah, Pete's a good guy. I like a lot of his content. I wish he does his own he uh i wish he he does like his own podcast sometimes but he like just pushes it to his youtube to help like push that channel and i as far last i looked he didn't actually like produce it as a podcast it was always a

pain in the ass actually listen to i was driving uh but i honestly felt like the food talk i feel like i've heard pete say that exact same thing like on three different other videos or podcasts just like i like you know frozen pizza and this that and the other and like the couple things he hit on it's like so i give him kudos to like you know liking what he likes and you know telling the world about it so for being a man of consistency as i am we'll go ahead and get the pete rubish episode five jd ipod touches five massonomics gym ipod touches man takes one week off and forgets how to do it. Oh.

Yeah, right? Could be worse. Dave, what do you think? Yeah, I thought it was a good episode. I liked his old one, and I like this one again. It's funny when he gets all excited about food and also his steroids talk. He gets really into it. You could tell he enjoyed that time of his life, just experimenting with everything to the extreme.

He talked a lot about running, which is, I don't know, kind of boring. But at the end of the episode, there's a lot of good talk about the Big David. So that was pretty redeeming. I'd give it, if we're not doing the JDPs anymore, I'd give it five Masonomics iPod touches. Yeah, I definitely thought it was really funny when they asked him about something and he just spent 15 minutes going off about drugs. That was really funny to me because he just didn't even answer their question, just made up a question in his head and went on about steroids. I laughed out loud on that one. Always love a good food chat.

So, you know, if there's anything, it's that he just talks so much, right? Like, gotta love the dude, but he just went off. And because of that, I think I can only give it five Masonomics Gym iPod touches. That's fair. I'm not sure what that's going to do to the average, but we'll have an answer for you next week when we get a chance to check out the spreadsheet. Let's see. So I had a little

interesting thing happen to me. I got my first freaking gray hair this week. It's a hysterical thing, too, because I sent a picture of it to my wife while I was, you know, I did a, I think I was at a red light and I took a quick selfie, which I shouldn't have't have done anyway but like i didn't have a chance to fully investigate because i was just like what the fuck is in my beard why is that white and i'm like i eat like uh you know uh a greek yogurt every day for lunch and i've been known to spill food over myself

regularly so i'm like is that just fucking some food in my beard and then so like my the text i sent her was something the extent of like not sure if i just got my first gray hair or if it's Greek yogurt and then you know fucking got out of the shower that night like god damn it it's still there so yeah sure enough I've got one it's fucking not even gray it's whiter than shit so I have a long white straight fucking beard hair

so ah so 38 and a half years old and I have my first gray hair so that was a little I don't know, different. Yeah. I will be, I will be 39 in two weeks and my beard is already getting white streaks in it.

And I don't know if you know this, but gingers don't go gray. We only go white or blonde. So I will end up probably with a white beard, which is fine. Cause then I can just be Santa Claus for like sick kids and stuff, which is dope. Like I could do it now, but it would be more fun if I actually looked like him. I did.

I did not watch any of the YouTube videos this week. I honestly just I worked every day for like 10 days and then just like slept for two days. I have not watched anything. What about you, David? Did you catch either of them last week or two days's yeah last week was the shoe one right yep anyway arsenomics and then today tanner talked about barbells yeah i watched them both today um i like the barbell one more it's a little more relevant but it's just cool to see how the bars do and don't hold up um i mean for the most part where you hold the bar that doesn't really wear down,

which is good. And it's always just cool to seeing them show off all their bars on their ghost rack to throw it all together like that. Yep. I, I'm not, as far as the ergonomics, I don't,

I've never, never tried a pair on or anything like that. I told, I sent my, I told my wife, I was like, Hey, if I was ever to buy the pair of these shoes from barefoot, which is not even really familiar with

them all that well, they're just, you know, you guys talking about them, but like, uh, if you were to ever buy me a pair, it would be this pair or no other pair. And like, they're going to sell out in the next couple of weeks. So, you know, I don't care either way. If you want to get them for me for Christmas, great. If not, I don't care that way either way. So I will have a, be surprised on Christmas that I either do or don't't get them and i'm cool with it either way so having tommy talk about those and you know build up the hype was kind of cool uh tommy doesn't get a whole lot of the videos so it's cool when he actually you know takes the initiative and does his own little thing and uh you know a little different side of the of the of the boys

uh as far as the barbell and yeah i you know i get it one thing i would uh recommend to them i don't know how much effort they want to actually put in their youtube but you know they're doing the ads now and everything so i think tanner had mentioned like you know if you if you like these equipment reviews or you know equipment episodes basically because they have a handful of them now between their their their gym walkthroughs and a couple other like you know gym updates and there's a go go check out her back catalog but i think if with just a little bit of extra work they could have actually like because i can't you you can put like links to certain episodes like as the credits roll and then that would like help your engagement

for like if you have like if you have a new viewer watching that video for the first time because like gym equipment related and they're like cool look gym equipment and then instead of just saying go look at my back catalog which has like fucking a thousand videos you actually cherry pick two or three you know similar ish episodes or you know videos that would be a suggestion to you know the sister podcast but take that with a grain of salt but i've never i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about the only youtube videos i post are my meat recaps and high school football videos. Yeah, it's definitely like when you're driving behind a car or a truck and it'll just say, like, Google our company name.

You're like, fuck you. I'm not doing that. Don't make me do the work to give you money. Get out of here. This was the first week. Well, tail end of November, beginning of December when it's coming out. So that Spotify rap is hitting everybody's Instagram feed pretty much. And I kind of feel bad because I gave up listening to podcasts on Spotify a few years ago. You know, when Tommy recommended Overcast, you know, probably three years ago, the first time I heard it, I just went balls in on Overcast.

what falls in on overcast and i don't like i i kind of my philosophy is spot spotify is better but i don't like mixing my podcast on my music app because i literally listen to like 20 different podcasts and i don't want to have to sort through 20 podcasts to find my recently played playlist from three days ago on music and it just like that wasted five ten seconds of my life was not worth it so i just completely got a new app for consuming podcasts versus music. But what I did want to talk about is Spotify. I thought it was really cool. We had, you know, at least a dozen people tag us and stuff. We tried to reshare as many as we could.

It was really cool to see pretty much, you know, massonomics, unpaid and underrated. And then like, you know, different variations of uh you know dave tate's podcast or garage gym experiments or you know completely unrelated fitness podcasts so that was just cool to see us right up there and i think it would play our cards right uh and we actually do a full year of recording next year because it should be based off runtime i believe it's not like how much you like the episode or anything. It's literally like minutes, minutes of the, that podcast consumed. So I think our average episode is a little bit longer than theirs,

which probably isn't the best thing, but you know, if we, you know, ideally we can get that down, but if things stay on track, we'll potentially have more minutes, you know,

produced next year. So if everyone listens to our episodes, we might edge them out, which would be astonishing to see and just, you know because clearly they're the bigger better podcast it would just be funny to see us beat them out just by minutes consumed by like what maybe like 15 of our loyal listeners i don't i don't listen to other podcasts i listen to three in total well two and a half no let's say two in total so i listen to massonomics every week sometimes i'll listen to ours if i have time in the norse fitness podcast but they release pretty irregularly so

i don't bother posting my podcasts but uh there was one thing that i got and i wanted to tell a little story um yeah that's fair so the lady there's two things that I added here that I thought would just be funny. And I don't know, they'll either fall short or not. But Jenny from Deadlift Till I'm Dead, she was posting

some workout videos and wearing Doc Martens in the gym. And that's when I was just like, huh? Because it never occurred to me right like that just people have these these different preferences and i had to let her know like we're not going to roast you or anything like i just it just made me want to suddenly ask people

what they work out in and so i did uh and i'm going to name drop a little here so um an old pair of reebok lifting shoes comes from mitch that's a fun one uh tr lights from big big matt sesney uh those are um those are mark bell's shoes that he came out with like 10 years ago and reebok produced them oh yeah i know the story yeah oh yeah i the way you said it it made it sound like you weren't who's who's who's who the fuck's yeah yeah yeah no no okay so i didn't make the connection until you told me that let's put it that way um untied chuck taylor's comes from big lou which that actually looks sounds just like big lou um bit of a cop-out from Mark here. Something you can lift the most weight in and is still moderately comfortable.

Now, I'm going to tell you, that sounds dangerously like riding the line. Definitely. All I know is my squat shoes are not comfortable, but I can probably lift the most in them, so that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. Nike Romaleos came up a couple times.

Big Hot, he prefers water shoes oh like they're just slippers yeah they're just slippers yeah they're basically deadlift slippers okay yeah those are like squishy but like a gel almost isn't aren't they what i remember as a kid wearing them at like the beach no they might be but they probably they probably just leave room for walking on gravel and then not you know having your shoes filled with water uh but definitely the most popular one was no shoes or barefoot shoes that was easily the most popular amongst my followers the vivos the vivo fit got mentioned more than once and i noticed that big jess was also talking about those so those are now

piqued my interest because uh three people i think said it here and big jess said it so i was like okay i will take a look so what do you guys think what are you lifting um so it depends on the lift usually on squat days i'll just do barefoot. So I'll just wear socks. Um, if I'm doing like a, like a low bar going for like a one rep max, I'll, I'll wear my squat shoes, but usually I'll just wear socks. Um, benching I'll wear whatever I'm wearing, either socks or just my Crocs. Or if I'm wearing my running shoes already, I'll just keep wearing those. It doesn't usually make a huge difference. And then deadlifts, I'll usually put on my deadlift slippers.

I have the old ground lock deadlift slippers. Sometimes just in socks, depends. But usually I'll just throw those slippers on. The joy of having my own gym and everything is I can wear whatever I want. So inevitably inevitably like 90% of my accessories are done in just socks or socks with Crocs. As far as the big three, I'll always wear my Addy Power squat shoes, the OG Addy Powers. They don't make any more for squats. I typically wear those on bench if I am going to wear shoes just because I,

the raised heel takes, you know, makes it a little bit easier for me to just reach the floor, basically. Because I compete in different federations, so I have to be able to bench flat-footed in certain feds. So I typically just bench flat-foot. If I feel I'm going to bench with my feet on the ground, I'm going to be flat-footed. So squat shoes for bench helps me. And then I'll deadlift either in socks or in my wrestling shoes that I would wear to meet. Wrestling shoes didn't come up a lot,

but you're not the first person to say it. Definitely a little more, definitely a little more ankle support, still flat footed. I've heard that a couple of times. That's it. I just, I just wanted to go and just kind of ask that question and put it out

there. And it was, it was fun to see it mostly just people like no shoes at all is the best. And I was like well that tracks that you people follow me because that's if i never had to wear shoes again i'd be happy but do you at least wear socks or are you one of the i want my toes out there because that's their foot i don't trust what i don't like that either floor i'm in i don't i can't my floor it's my floor I got a little broom there and I sweep it up. Yes.

And you're setting. It was not as bad. I've got like, there's like, you know, 30 different people coming in and my gym over the course of a year, potentially like, and their shoes are not clean.

Like they might be like clean as in like, you know, but still been in bathrooms and shit. So I don't want my, my bare toes touch it. Like just, and it's not really super easy to mop a stalemate especially the ones that i have that have like oh i know because somebody tracked them so somebody tracked

mud through my gym and believe me it was i did the the eye twitch that you do sometimes i was so fucking mad about it because like i had to get on my hands and knees with like swifters and shit to get that up like i was pretty i I was pretty pissed about it. You could try using a bar soap for that. Yeah. It's pretty clean. It'll never get dirty. I was actually going to suggest maybe Keith just gets an orange Roomba for his gym.

Like he gets a no wine Roomba. I thought about a Roomba. Goes around. Wouldn't be a horrible idea. I'm like, I'm limited on space though. And that thing's like always going to have a plug and shit. And like, I don't, I have limited on space, though, and I've always got to have a plug and shit. I'm limited

on outlets in the basement, to be honest with you. I have one. It kind of sucks. It gets stuck all the time and doesn't go on the charger, so it's not really worth it. Yeah. That would be the worst. You're lucky. You buy the $1,000 one. It works like shit. And then your buddy buys

the $80 one on Amazon, and it works perfect. And it's just all luck of the draw. So how's your beat prep, Joey? Do you want to talk about that at all? Other than like, you know, your little elbow pain and whatnot, anything else worth mentioning or any, you know, goals you want to talk about or anything like that? Or do you just want to touch it on it in a couple of weeks

when we actually do the full recap? Yeah, this is just, it's, I want to get it. I need to lose about two more pounds i'm doing good so far um down from about 172 to about 167 so i want to get down under under 165 um i think i'll make it i don't i don't think i'm gonna break a thousand pounds i really really wanted to but going from training only deadlifts to now trying to train full power i've lost a bunch of off of my deadlift but that makes sense like i'm not pissed about it it just i didn't squat at all on the last one so now here i am you know adding a 300 and something

pound squat so yeah yeah my elbow hurts a bit everything's going all right i just need to start sleeping better and maybe eating a little cleaner a ton of people what's sleep what what what is sleep i think it's a thing we don't do anymore because we're either here or recording our work again yeah i'm so glad like as i loved last night that was so awesome staying up like with the boys but man i didn't get to bed till like 12 30 one o'clock and my fucking alarm went off at 4 15 or some shit i'm like yeah i'm lucky i was off today yeah i would have enjoyed last night a lot more if i was off today but you know they only do like the two-hour lives a couple times a year so i'm not gonna be like oh i gotta go to bed bye guys well and they and they called us in right like oh yeah yeah i fucking ended up like

muting myself somehow. I noticed. Tommy unmuted me, and then I was like, am I un- well, fuck, I unmuted myself. And then I think I tried to talk a couple times. I don't think I got anything actually came out. And then you fucking stayed on fucking, you know, sneaky attack and got a fucking zinger in at the end.

He did. I was not. So, yeah, I'll quick a quick breakdown on that one because so most of it you're just gonna hear me going can anybody hear me or am i talking to myself so if they actually have that recorded you're just gonna hear me saying that a couple times and then going all right that's cool i'll go fuck myself just like mumbling to myself and then me and scans just dropped a couple jokes because that's what me and scans do and then um i was like all right and then i muted

myself i think just because i was coughing so they said oh we're gonna kick you guys off after 30 and we'll do the 10 without the discord so around 25 i clued in that i was not actually muted so i saw it up on my picture and what i did is i just muted the microphone clicked the little button and i was like when they kick me off i'm gonna get them so as soon as they said um all right everybody and they started kicking people off i unmuted and said hey guys i'll be up after my thing and i i almost broke tanner like he just he started dying and tommy's going what how did that happen but it won't be on the podcast because i wasn't being recorded into their zoom so it's just going to be them reacting to me or they'll cut it right out they'll probably explain

it i can see either way it might yeah either way it's gonna be funny we we we know it happened so if they don't talk about it on their podcast just just know that we talk about it on ours and then use that as a gauge of who's your favorite podcast. That's right. I said to the crew, I was like, we heard it and that's what matters. Yeah. And then just one last thing. And maybe this is a bit of a project for some of our listeners. The quick story for me, because a lot happens when I'm gone in two weeks, right?

Like a lot of the time, if I'm working 10 hours, I'm not coming home for dinner because the kids are in bed. Morgan's like, don't come home. Cause they're just going to rally them up. Like just go eat and come home after they're in bed. So I spend some time in pubs and restaurants sometimes late. And I live in a, I live right in between two small towns. So the one I go to in the one small town

is the pilots legion it's the 447 the wing i'm a member blah right and the other one is just called like the grill like it's this little tiny restaurant and i was at the grill the other day both of them have keats on tap that's why i go there and i'm in the bathroom and it's a really nice setup okay like they have the silly keg as a urinal but they also have like a really cool change station which a lot of men's rooms don't have because people just assume that dads don't dad and this one has a really nice setup so i was kind of like appreciated that they're you know they're considering us but for some stupid reason, there's just a random picture of Al Pacino as Scarface in the middle of this bathroom. There's a plant, like a nice fern.

There's this nice chain station. And there's this stupid fucking photo of Al Pacino staring at you every time you go in and out of this bathroom. And I just got to know, what, this bathroom and i just gotta know what who who thought you know what men like peeing into a keg and scarface and just like a dig with no sense of decor just was like boom scarface that's our bathroom motif you guys are gonna nail it so i'm just wondering if anybody else out there if you you happen to see some silly, completely out of place men's bathroom artwork that just doesn't make sense, send it on over. Tag us, tag the podcast, tag me, throw it on the Instagram stories. Because I just I got to see if it's just this place or if it's the rest of the world.

I understand like country scapes or even like some like forest scapes or something right because it's such a small town like i'm mostly surrounded by farms just no just al Pacino i just wanted to put that out there well yeah hit us up with what you guys find and uh you know you share it in the stories and whatnot maybe talk about it in a future episode so i think it's time that we're going to, you know, honor our, our main sponsor, our only sponsor.

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nice appreciate that that was well done my friend hell yeah we know that's always a little nerve wreck for people but like you know you did great that was easy you know we appreciate it uh that's our goal for anyone that's gonna be a future guest like we really appreciate when you can take care of the ad read it's your way to kind of you know just show your support from astronomics and it gives a little variety rather than me and joey just saying the same saying every single week and making it like a boring thing you know we like having someone put their little twist on it and i like hearing you know original stuff you know it's cool that's like getting a different perspective what other people think massonomics is and you know anything we do to help their brand

helps us so and with that we are going to close out us. With that, we're going to close out general topics and I think we're going to have to kick out any looky-lovers we got. You want to get that guest on the horn? Actually, now I can only see the white hair. In my beard. No, in mine.

I've got a big, long one. I've got a big, long one in my mustache and it's like, now it's all I can see. All right. Got our guest on the horn. Yep. Now, is this Big David? Is that you?

This is. Are we live? We are live on Unpaid and Underrated. We're going to dive right in. We don't want to miss any gold. My mind's going a mile an hour. Yeah. You don't sound British.

So in case anybody thinks this is the other episode, it's not. We had a week in between. Allegedly. We'll go ahead and usually we start with a different one, but for this week, just for clarity, please tell us who you are

wherever they can find you on instagram which discord david you are like everyone likes to joke and play around and say hi i'm the other david but like for give yourself credit like who are you where people find you oh and your supporting uh supporting member number if you got the card oh yeah i checked it earlier it's uh 79 hell Hell yeah. So this is Big David. My Instagram is bandofdruthers underscore d. It used to be

memonomics numero uno and I changed it around when this podcast was starting because I thought of that name and thought it was funny and so I just took it on Instagram instead. the discord. I'm big David. And it's the one with the Michael Scott picture.

Right. Appreciate that. A little bit of clarity. Cause I, you know, I've everyone likes the joke of like, who's who, but like,

you know, we're literally going to sit here for a couple hours and people actually know who we're talking to and, you know, make sure they're following you. Yeah. I don't, I don't think we bring that up enough though what this podcast was almost called i think if we have an episode of uh like just me and you or just me you and nate i think we should have like just a list of what we almost called this podcast because there was some really

funny submissions or brand of there was one of them uh there was one really funny submissions. Brand of, there was one of them. Uh, there was one that I particularly liked. I don't remember what it was now, but I think it was based off two white lights. Like I was mocking them in some way or another. Um, yeah, I definitely want to,

I, I think we should somehow, I wish we'd screenshot it, but we'll go back. Yeah. Someone can power through that. Uh, well,

big David, uh, obviously you're on unpaid and underrated, but we, you know and Underrated, but we are friends with the sister podcast, Masonomics. So what brought you to Masonomics? So I first found them through the podcast. It was probably 2018. I started going to a new gym, so I was driving because I moved, so it was closer to my house. And I just needed something else to listen to. I listened to a lot gym. So I was driving, um, cause I moved. So it was closer to my house and, uh,

I just needed something else to listen to. I listened to a lot of podcasts then. So I figured there'd be something about lifting and that's probably what I searched for was like lifting podcast. And, um, I think I like wanted something sort of like lighthearted, but, um, you know, sort of talked about training maybe. And, uh And those were the ones I listened to early on. I would just pick ones based on the topic, which was kind of funny because the topic would be like to squatting the depth matter or just random stuff like that, which is funny because you listen to those episodes and they probably talk about that for like three minutes out of like an hour and a half. And somehow I just kept listening to them. Sort of started to realize that they're not like a serious podcast. three minutes out of like an hour and a half. And somehow I just kept listening to them, um, sort of started to realize that they're not like a serious podcast. They're just more having fun talking with each other.

Um, I thought they were Canadian for like, I don't know, a few weeks because their, because their accents at the time, like sounded different. Like I'm pretty used to it now, but I was like,

I think these guys are in Canada. Cause they say certain things funny and they didn't, they didn't talk about South Dakota in every episode back then. So I was like, I'm pretty sure these guys are Canadian. And then Tanner started talking about the army fitness tests. I remember that was one of the first episodes and I was like, oh, interesting. I wonder what like the Canadian army fitness test is like. And I realized that that's not what they were talking about. I think it sort of clicked then like, oh, these guys aren't actually canadian or maybe some of them are something like

that but uh wait so canadians sound funny like that's kind of what i took from there well they sound funny they must be canadian they just say things wrong i'm teasing i'm teasing you always said something earlier i can't remember what it was. I heard it also. I was like, that's not how you say that word. Decor? Yeah. He said decor, I believe, right? What did you say?

Decor. That's so fucking lazy. Ah, yeah. You Americans have no finesse in your language. Decor. Everything sounds like decor. Sorry sorry i'll stop using it no 2018 it's one of the ogs yeah so i just listened to random ones i think i know by 2020

i was listening to them like weekly like leading up to episode 200 i remember like listening to those ones because they kept saying like oh you, you know, episode 200 is coming, you know, big things are coming. Things are going to change. And I was like, Oh, I wonder what that is. And that's when they started having guests pretty much every week. So somewhere around then I was for sure listening weekly. And then during COVID, I probably started from the beginning to listen to the, like the back catalog from one to whatever the current was. Eventually somewhere along that I started following the Instagram because at first I didn't really care for it. It was just like a bunch of power lifting videos that I didn't really know who

the people were at the time. So it didn't appeal to me that much. But once I really liked the podcast, that's when I started following them and realizing more about like Tanner and Tommy and stuff. I think Tyler was already gone at that point. them and realizing more about like tanner and tommy and stuff i think tyler was already gone at that point nice so what do you do because you had touched base on how you the first several episodes you listened to or just them shooting the shit and like picking a topic covering it for five minutes and then shooting the shit for an hour uh comparing those to the interviews how was that transition and which one did it take you a while to be like okay i like the interviews how was that transition and which one did it take you a while to be like okay i like the interviews better or like uh you know i give me the old ones or did was there any kind of like

growing pains with that if you recall no not really because at that point i i kind of liked them so like you could see them growing like they were leading up to it and they were getting better and better at like hosting a show and stuff like that so i i thought it was a good transition to start having guests because once you like once you actually listen to the cat back catalog once joey gets to that like once uh once tyler leaves there's kind of like a while before they figure out how to get back into it so by the time they got to like the guests they were they were fully back in it and so it was good to just see them keep progressing past that so here's the thing about me listening to the back catalog i'm never gonna and if i do i'm not telling anyone you're just gonna start dropping references that like you

would only know if you were like you know 200 listener. Yeah. That would actually be funny. And then play dumb. If you call me on it, you're like, no, I don't know. Matt told me to say it. We'll talk about him a little later. Okay. So, you know, being one of the OGs, I'm sure you've, you know, participated in a lot of our contests, if not all of them.

And I know you had a couple of really banger videos out there there have you actually ever won any of the contests that they put on i have i've won several several well that was a loaded question so you know pat yourself on the back and tell us what you won thank you um i like when joey asked that a few weeks ago to someone i'll say oh they should ask me this one because then I could say, yes, multiple. The first one, so I didn't do the old contest. The first one I joined was the first meme contest. And that's sort of when I made my Instagram account also, because I think I saw someone else do that.

And I was like, oh, that's kind of a smart idea because I don't really post on my personal account. And if I do, I'm not going to post random memes that no one would understand so i just made an account just to do that contest basically and just kept it from then so the first meme contest there wasn't like a grand prize winner it was just five winners and i was one of those um and then i don't know if it was a year later, half a year later, they did another one, another meme contest. And that one was the grand prize one that I won, um, with the video for I'm on the discord.

Yep. That was, uh, I don't know, maybe a month after discord was released on us. And that one, that one won the grand prize. I was pretty proud of that one.

what was the prize for that uh that was the 35 pound plates from the strength co okay but that was before they made 35 so it was a 20 25 and a 10 duct tape was it was legit duct tape yeah it was a lot of duct tape and saran wrap and stuff like that did that fuck up the coating when you took it all off or anything did you have to sit there with like a like goo like uh that like what is it goo uh goo gone or orange off or whatever actually get the adhesive off from the duct tape because i could see that fucking up some plates no it came off pretty good they might have had like saran wrap as the lowest layer or something like that i forget what it was but it didn't it didn't mess it up okay that's good i was i was gonna gonna dick move for sure i was gonna try to keep them

together and just use them like 35s but one of them was like that the holes are slightly off so i couldn't get it on a bar so i'm like well i can't actually use it i'm just gonna take them apart and use them as 25 and 10s and have you added to the strength collection since then or is it just those no yeah before that i had um basically a full set like a 45 25 10s fives and two and a halves so after that i had an extra 25 an extra 10s so you already had strength poe place i'm saying yeah i have like one set of them yeah before that gotcha gotcha perfect and was that the last one you won or did you did you place on any others no there's others um did you get on any others? No, there's others.

Did you beat Matt in any of them? That's, that's how we're really right now. I didn't. Were you able to beat Matt in any of them? Yeah. The first one where there was five winners, Matt was one of the winners. So I wouldn't say that's beating him.

The, the second one, I beat him. I think him and Nate tied. That was when they got there. They might've not actually won but they got their bridesmaids bridesmaids award for that one i forget if they if they won something or they didn't win something with that but they both like tied on that one and i beat them um

and the other ones were i forget which came first it It was the reveal contest. And the drink spotter one. The reveal contest, I technically got fourth place and third place. So when they got to third place, they realized they screwed up. Because like, oh, this guy just got fourth place. And he's also in third place. So I think that's when they bumped Jen up to fourth place. And I won third place. So I think that's when they bumped Jen up to fourth place. And I won third place. I wasn't sure how that worked at first until Tanner messaged me.

He was like, here you go. You got the third place prize. Not like two prizes. And then the fourth one was the Drink Spotter one. No, no, no. I'm going to mess that up. There was one after the drink spot yeah the drink spotter one no no no I'm gonna miss that yeah there was one after the reveal one it was the

no you're right it was the trick shot and then it was the Jefferson I don't think there was one in between I think I've only done a couple of myself and I've definitely done the drinks the drink spotter rather the drink spotter rather than the,

the drink spotter was the trick shot. And then the, the, the, the mass, the most recent Jefferson deadlift one that was like within the last six, six months. Right.

So. Okay. Cause it was in July. He's deep in thought either way, you know, maybe I didn't want that one multiple times. So he's, or he's reading his his he's reading something

off his penis yes exactly i might have not won that one which which one did you enjoy the reveal one yeah i won the garage reveal okay i won the giant check and the gift card gotcha and then they just printed like we for weeks they couldn't figure out how to get me this giant check because the shipping was hundreds of dollars and then they were like wait it's like 50 bucks to just have a company in his town print them so I had to go and pick it up in my tiny little cart it was pretty funny actually

it was funny so Big David how many crew have you been able to meet in person out there in California or any other I know you met someone recently have you met anyone to meet in person out there in California or any other your travels? I know you met someone recently. Have you met anyone else before that? Yeah, that was about that most recent meetup.

Sure. Yeah, I've only met one. That was just a couple of weeks ago. I met a big Andrew Garrison from the crew. That was at the Strength Co. Turkey Pool. I don't know if you want to get into that at all, but he's the only person I've met so far. We met Grant then because Grant is. Oh yeah you're right he's not overly active but he is you know you know he is in the discord at least connor would have been there yeah connor would have been there he's connor wasn't actually there i thought he was going to be there i wanted to

meet him what about d d was there i didn't really talk her, but she was there. Brayden was there. He's always in their videos. I don't know if he's in crew or not, but he's one of their people. Well, I know, I know Dean Grant and Connor are in D's. Right.

D's got the COVID spot, right? Yeah. 69. Yep. Which was really weird when the Arnold, me, Nate and Kevin were all like,

there she is crew number 69. And she turned around at first, me, Nate, and Kevin were all like, there she is, crew number 69, and she turned around at first like, who the fuck are you? And then kind of, I guess, clued in, but I can see why us yelling that without any context would completely put a lady at the Arnold off. Sorry, D. I'd be yelling 669 at a random woman.

Sorry, D. We knew who you were she's the girl 69 in hindsight I can see how that would be very unnerving for a second well

speaking of hindsight if there was one piece of massonomics merch you'd wish you bought there big David Hunter which one would it have been it's a good question I think was one piece of mass economics merch you'd wish you bought there, Big David Hunter, which one would it have been? That's a good question. I think for the most part, I have the ones that I liked. Since I've

been around, I've got all the ones I like. What I would like is all the ones I have in large. I would like to have the extra large. Well, there you go. I mean, I guess some of these. So like the like the neon lift shirt. I wish I had an extra large.

The massonomics heavy logger. I wish I had bigger. And then the the lift fast. So those three, I wish I had in a size that I could actually wear comfortably. And then maybe for one I didn't buy would be the first time they came out with the blue lift shorts. That would have been cool to get. No,

I, yeah, I completely feel you on a shirt's not fitting. I'm in a large right now and I'm finally comfortable. I went from smalls to mediums and then, yeah, then now I can only order larges. Yeah. I went large XL, 2X.

So I've got a package of 2X coming this, well, hopefully comes this week. Are they orange? No. Carp scared me, because he said that his Benzine, that he ordered a fucking triple X Benzine 315, and it's a little snug. And him and I are about the same size. I warned everybody, because I can't wear my benching 315 and i bought it in medium and i can't wear it but tanner said it was printed on the same blank as the what's the the the blue ribbon lifter and i had to i had to sell my blue ribbon lifter my buddy who's bigger than me

because the it was so like i in my the 2x blue ribbon i was literally swimming in so i was like well if it's that size i almost have to go xl no i think the vinyl pressing or whatever they use the screen printing shrinks them maybe because most of their mediums like if i'm if i've got a pump and want to show off i can still fit into a medium right it's not comfortable but you'll see me and know i lifted that day i can't with that one with the three 15. It just like, I feel like if I lean over and pick something up,

my back's going to just tear that shirt to shit. So I think it's just the, the vinyl printing on it might be the same blank, but not all blanks are the same. That is factual. Well, I think we got some stuff from your wife. We're going to dive right into,

she was, she was a good team player and you know gave us a good about two pages worth of shit that we can scour through and find some embarrassing things to poke funny you out maybe not sure let's see what do ones I wanted to hit on is is there a reason someone

calls you big game as a nickname I mean the origin of it it was a Uh, is there a reason someone calls you big game as a, as a nickname? Uh, I mean, the origin of it, it was, uh, my last job was, was my first job out of college. Um, I had like a name plate. I have it over here, but it's like made of stone. It just says, you know, my name, David Hunter on it. And I had that on my desk. And, you know, one day I came in my office and someone in between my name,

they wrote David and then with a sticky note, put big game Hunter. Cause my last name is Hunter. So, so like a group of maybe like 10 people in that office, every time they would see me or refer to me, it was always big game. That actually is funny. Cause she, she, she, she told me where you got it, but not how you got it. And like, as soon as you said,. And as soon as you said your name, I want to plaque David Hunter. I was like, ah, that clicks. So if you had to pick between Big Game and Little David, which one would you go with?

Probably Big Game. Yeah. Little David because your dad is a David, I think. Is that what the gist on that one was? Yep. My dad is also David Hunter. Um, we have different middle names, so I'm not junior. I guess it's not like a, I'm not David junior, but you know, just as a kid,

people calling the house and stuff. So I would answer the phone and they say, Oh, you know, is David there? I'm like, yes, this is, this is me. And you know, it's a little kid obviously. And just like in sort of like, you know, family events or whatever say you know big dave and little little david because i was the kid another example of why give your kids your own individual names they don't have to have the lineage name i don't know i don't i can talk i can complain about that all day but i don't i just as someone that like has to share his first name with his dad i just i don't know i just want my

own name i just says that way you go by keith not david yep that's that's why as a one minute old child i decided to call myself keith yes correct but that would not just make you big little david yeah i'll show you a little discord not you the other little david ah yeah in discord you'd be big little dav. Big Little David Hunter. Big Little Big Game David Hunter. That was a mouthful. That's what she said. Let's see.

I should have done it. I didn't overly organize these notes, but she gave me so much stuff that I was trying to organize it all and put it in columns and tabs, but it was just... I went through some of it and stuff jumps out at me, right? I did have some time uh what the fuck is a cinnamon what's a cinnamon scented broom uh and so i go to trader joe's as much as i've never heard of this never heard of this so out here at least it seems like every year around fall time they have i don't know if you

ever seen at other grocery stores they have like cinnamon scented pine cones and like a bag it's just a bag of pine cones that smell like cinnamons okay kind of cinnamon you put it on like a bowl on your dining room table for the holidays or something right yeah decorations okay so it's it's a similar thing it's just like a wooden broom like it looks like an old style like broom that someone would have in like the 1800s like made of sticks and it just smells like cinnamon and pretty much every year around this time when i go to trader It looks like an old style, like broom that someone would have in like the 1800s, like made of sticks. And it just smells like cinnamon. And pretty much every year around this time when I go to Trader Joe's, I buy one and I just have a big grin on my face. My wife's like, what'd you get?

And one of those stupid rooms in a bag. And now I want to go to Trader Joe's. It's good stuff. I think the closest one's actually outside of Buffalo. So that's what, like 40 minutes? An hour? About an hour. Actually, about an hour and a half. Because Buffalo's about an hour on a good day.

Does it take a long time to get through the border to go into the U.S. from Canada? That depends on a number of things. There was a big explosion recently, so that kind of shut everything down. That happened in the middle of last... That happened a couple days before Thanksgiving, didn't it? Yep. um there was a big explosion recently so that kind of shit i forgot about that that happened right like that happened middle of last they have a couple days for thanksgiving didn't it yep um so like the last time we went so like when me and steve were coming back we came back in some

like podunk town off a reservation and like the the the border guards were shocked to see us because it was like one in the morning and they were just like hi and we're And we're like, oh, yeah, we're just driving back to Canada. So there was nobody. We were through in five minutes. Going down to the U.S. last time was a bit of a lineup. And me, in my standard noncommittal fashion, because only Siths are absolute, she says, when are you coming back to Canada? And I said, the plan is today. And she looked at me and she said,

what do you mean the plan is? When are you coming back to Canada? And like that could have totally delayed my, but in my head, I was just like, what if my car breaks down? What if one of my kids gets sick and suddenly I'm not coming back and you guys are looking for me?

I don't want to commit to today because you're never in control of the things around you so like that shit could add some time so it either takes long the rainbow peace bridge takes longer than any other bridge I've

had to use though crossing Detroit was quick the rainbow was where the explosion was wasn't it too? that's crazy I've had to use though. Crossing Detroit was quick. The rainbow is where the explosion was on it too. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Well,

speaking of some crazy classified stuff, we hear that a big David here is working on some classified stuff and his, his fancy job. You just want to tell people, you know, as much as you want about which one school for what you're doing for a living and why it's classified. Well, i can't talk about any of that stuff not even a little bit nope you can you can touch on no i can talk about unclassified stuff well yeah but um i guess what do you want to know it's kind of it's such a loaded question hey tell me stuff

you can't tell me well no it's just like uh you she's you know you want to know? It's such a loaded question. Hey, tell me stuff you can't tell me. Well, no. You went to school for aerospace engineering. Is that actually what you do now? And what the fuck is aerospace engineering? It's when you engineer aerospace shit. I don't know. Yeah, I can get into that.

Explain to me like I'm five. Well, so you see, there's airplanes and there's rockets. That's the combination of aero and space. So my degree was in aerospace engineering. So that's what we learned was basically how to design and build and test both airplanes and rockets. That's not currently my job. I'm a mechanical engineer now.

So it's it's all related. Most of I've been working for like seven years and I think. Five of those years, my title was mechanical engineer and two of them was aeronautical engineer. So they all kind of overlap, just depends on what you're working on. So, I mean, I've worked when i was in college i was interning at uh jpl which is a nasa's jet propulsion lab in pasadena so i worked there for six months i worked on a cube satellite if you know what those are at all a cube satellite yeah isn't that just a borg ship a what a borg ship no all right all my star trek listeners call me out next time

um but anyways they're just like small satellites like they fit in basically the size of like a cereal box they're kind of like a standard size So they always fit in this specific box basically. And so I worked on one of those and that was pretty cool because it was a small project. Like they have giant projects that have, you know, hundreds of people on them. And this was just like me and one other mechanical engineer. So I got to like be really involved in it. Like we ordered parts, we built things, we tested things. So that was that's pretty cool to get to do all that like hands-on stuff there um after college i worked on

the f-35 fighter jet um as like a structural designer so all the like um structural components that hold it together, basically. And I did that for almost four years, and then I sort of went into the dark world that I can't talk about. The F-35, which was that one of the ones featured in Maverick? Or is that

which generation of fighter jets, or is that a completely remarkable way off base on like which f whatever the fuck that is no you're you're right um i think they had some in maverick that's not what they were flying they were flying f-18s but they might have they might have shown some on the carrier at one point i don't think they're technically operational with the navy yet they might be now but they started so started filming that a long time ago. Yeah, I know that's going to be forever.

So like F, I'm curious, you might know this, what's the F stand for? Is that fighter? Yeah, it's fighter. Is the number always just kind of like the generation or is it based on the size or the speed or the maneuverability

or something like that? Is it all just like this is 2023, but it's the size or the speed or the maneuverability or something like that? Like, is it all just like, like this is the 2023. So, but it's the 35th version of it. Um, I don't really know. I think it's sort of random.

I think it's sort of chronological, like world war two had like F fours and stuff like that. It's like the 85 top gun was like F 16, wasn't it? And then now they're like f-18s or yeah that was yeah so it sort of goes like that like f-14 is what they were flying in the first top gun and then f-18 is what replaced that and now technically f-35 is replacing that so those numbers all went up but there's also like f what at 117 which came out a long time ago So I don't fully know how they come up with those names.

So it's just similar to our episode titles, you know, just kind of pretty much just slightly random. Nice. That's cool. That is neat. It sounds like you like what you do. At least you're still doing it.

So that's good. Yeah. Most people can't, most people, I don't know how many, not everyone can say they like what they do. So that's, that's cool.

Got to dig that. So, uh, mention, uh, let's see. So you so it looks like you're a garage gym guy is that something you recently got into have you always had the garage gym they said your wife kind of made it sound like lifting well even you mentioned like when you first got into mass economics you weren't really a big lifter you didn't know these power lifters were so is that fitness and lifting in general just something you've kind of found more recently or what's what has that been yeah relatively recently i mean probably in college i would say is when i started like

working out like going to a gym and that was mostly like going to the ymca with my sister because she worked at a ymca at the time so when i was like back home during the summer we would go do those like you know 7 a.m classes with all the old ladies and we would be like the youngest people there by like 30 years just like not zumba but like because i hit like high intensity classes and those kind of things and then um did some lifting towards the end of college but that was just like the basic stuff like the machines leg presses and that kind of stuff um and then after that once i started working was more when i started trying to do like real lifting like barbell lifting and then just more and more that progressed more towards power

lifting style training but even that was like a few years of just doing whatever in the gym even though i was squat benching and dead lifting i wasn't following any program or learning any real technique at that point so like pretty much everyone else like when covet happened our gym closed and i slowly started trying to acquire equipment i was i remember i was mad because maybe like a month or two before COVID happened, I had like a basic adjustable dumbbell set. I'm like in my Amazon cart for only like it was like 50 bucks for like a set that went up to like 25 pounds or maybe it was 40 pounds. I guess. But like that would have been perfect to have. And I just I never ordered it because at the time I was going to a gym, but I wasn't going that often.

I was like, man, it'd be nice to have just, know some dumbbells at home i could just do something and then like covid happened so like that was impossible to find that kind of thing for a long time i i regret to inform you i zoned out for a second there um but it's just because i wanted to let you know that the glaze rating on top gun 1986 was eight he said it was very good we'll watch again at some point reserved for top 20 percent but the glaze rating for top gun maverick from 2022 was a nine nearly perfect i like maverick that's just good i was as soon as you guys started talking about top gun i was was like, I got to have this website saved somewhere so that I can glaze search

as soon as anybody brings up a movie. A lot of times, if I watch a sequel or something, I will go back and glance at what I rated the previous ones. I'm sure I did that with that. At that time, I must have thought it was just a hair better.

I'll stand by that. There are times that people call me out on my rating, and I kind of look at it, and I'm like, no, I agree with that. I stand by it, but every now and then, I'll come across something, and I'm just scrolling, and I'm like, yeah, maybe I should raise that up one or down one. The IMDB rating of the original Top Gun is 6.9, and I don't think anybody's allowed to say anything about it to keep it there. Sorry to interrupt your gym story there, but I was just like, I was going through it as I was like, God, don't stop talking about Top Gun until I find this. I think that's a fair rating. I mean, I like the old Top Gun. That's probably one of my favorite movies, and I would probably rewatch that one more.

But Maverick was like it was probably a better movie like overall it was it was just a good movie like it was surprising to me too that the sequel would be that good you don't get that very often right uh and just to talk on orange glaze writing just a little bit more like if you guys actually go to fucking imbd like my ratings are fairly on par with what like the general public thinks of that like there are outliers for sure but like 70 of my ratings are like within like a half a rating of like what the fucking general public rates it like on the average so i'm not i'm gonna i'm gonna look up a movie and i'll let you know if that's

actually true stand Stand by here. I've heard you've seen 75% of all movies ever created. But I'm not really sure which way that means. Is it just 70% of every movie or 70% of all movies? I don't know. That was pretty funny. As soon as you said that, yeah, that's what I was like. I'm not trusting you if you've never watched the ending. Okay, hold on.

So what about There Will Be blood what was your what was the i think i'm a little lower on that one than what the average might be but i think the average is lower than what you think it'll be uh so the average so the imdb rating is 8.2 and you gave it a six yeah just okay it's an outlier. One of the greatest actors in the world putting on what is known as one of his greatest performances. One of my favorite movies and you gave it a just okay.

It can be a great performance and you still don't like that. You don't like the movie. It was an incredible movie. What about Gangs of New York? Gangs of New York. I probably rated that an eight. David, what do you think about Gangs of New York? Gangs of New York, I probably rated that an 8. David, what do you think about Gangs of New York? What do you think he gave Gangs of New York?

I haven't seen that one, but if he didn't, there will be blood. It's a little more happens, isn't it, right? Yeah, but it's also like 2 hours longer. Oh, really? Probably still like a 6. He gave it an 8 eight he actually gave it a

higher rating than imdb does what imdb is probably like a seven two or something i bet seven seven point five okay see i'm not uh i'm not as far as because everyone's used to like the the the jd powers which is one to five so like with the the, on, on a one to 10 scale, it's just like, it's different. I don't know. I just, I feel a lot of my ratings are pretty on par,

but you know, it is what it is. They're called your ratings, not fucking our ratings. So suck my dick. You can turn this into a segment. No, you know,

it's rated higher. It sounds like I'm calling you out, but I was really just interested because I haven't used this search engine before right now. Nice. As soon as you asked about Top Gun, I was like, Oh, I'm calling you out, but I was really just interested because I haven't used this search engine before right now. Nice. As soon as you asked about Top Gun, I was like, oh, I'm bringing this up. That's good stuff. So let's see.

You said you used to listen to a lot of big podcasts, but now not so much. But what were some of the ones you listened to prior to Mastodonomics? Anything that like, because you said you listen to kind of like, I'm assuming listen to you know mark bell's you know power private power uh power cast i'm guessing that's it kind of seemed right in what you were describing no i didn't actually back i think i think massonomics was probably the first lifting one i ever listened to back then it was uh i don't know if i listened to joean back then, maybe a little, but probably not much. Like, I listened to Serial back then, whatever those big ones were. I think I used to listen to This American Life sometimes, the NPR one.

But I got bored of that one when it, because it basically just turned into all politics and we obviously didn't want that. Yeah, exactly. I'm just going gonna find that in the call right somewhere uh yeah well here's here's a hot button topic lately um podcast while lifting yes or no i i do sometimes okay it depends on the podcast and it depends on the lifting. I don't usually listen to the new, like the current week's Masonomics podcast. I won't usually listen to that while lifting. Sometimes I'll listen to Table Talk or what's it called? Let's Get Stupid.

Sometimes I could listen to those while lifting because they're kind of, let's get stupid i can listen to while lifting somehow it like just like you know feels like i'm just hanging out with them basically nothing really happened yeah exactly i i i listened to that on my drive back today and i can i could fucking zone out for 10 minutes and not miss anything because they're still making the same dick joke so it's like you know i i i can see that but i i do like your logic on like if you are going to listen to one it's not like aonomics because you kind of, you don't want to miss out on something at that point. Right. Like almost every, pretty much every word almost matters because that, that like one fucking phrase or sentence could end up being a goddamn inside joke or a meme that lasts for the next six months because you never know what's going to turn into like, so be viral. You never know what's going to turn into like,

so be viral. Yeah. Sometimes table talk. I'll like just zone out for like 10, 15 minutes. Cause they're just talking about how they train a certain way 10 years ago. Exactly. It's a lot of sets and reps. So sometimes I can just like,

it'll just be background noise or I'll actually, you know, listen to it. But, but if it's like a heavy set or anything, it's always music or nothing even. So it mostly just depends on what I'm doing. I'll usually warm up with podcasts and then switch to music when it starts getting the working sets.

That's pretty much what I'll usually do. Now, do you listen to a lot of podcasts where you're drinking whiskey and cooking steak and anything like that? Does it seem to be like your wife hit on those being kind of your main hobbies or steak, whiskey, and smoking meats? And I want to point out, there's a common theme here of whiskey,

steaks, smoking meat, not liking vegans. There's a whole common theme here and then one name appeared in all of these notes ron swanson so tell me are you the living embodiment of ron swanson no i wish but he's definitely like a what do you call Not a hero, but he's a good person to try to be more like. I feel like I don't drink that much whiskey anymore. Probably more back in five years ago would be more often. What kind? I mean, either bourbon or scotch would be the main ones.

I like Canadian whiskey also. That's kind of just like a baseline one if you just if you're ever going to mix it with something or just have like i don't i sort of just always have that stocked just like the costco canadian whiskey or like canadian club that's kind of like the cheap one i would use um i don't have a lot of i don't have a lot of patience for Crown Royal. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever even bought that. It just doesn't seem worth it. It's a Canadian whiskey, but it's very sweet. Yeah.

I think a very popular thing for younger college kids. Everyone had a Crown Royal bag to keep money in or something when I was a kid. I don't know. I think it was a bartender thing. They put their tip shares in a fucking Crown Royal bottle or something you use those bags for everything we use those up here yeah like you would keep stuffing them at home you would use them in rags

they were good for polishing like your car like Crown Royal bags were a big thing when I was a kid and now I don't think they do them yeah I've been in the bar scene anymore it's been years since I've worked when I was a kid. And now I don't think they do them. Yeah, I'm not in the bar scene anymore. It's been years since I've worked in a fucking kitchen or a bar.

It's like a purple bag with a yellow little string. Yeah, it took me a minute to think about what those looked like. I haven't seen one in a long time. I think I remember that bag more than fucking Crown Royal. I'm sure I've had shots of Crown Royal when I was a fucking teenager but like do i have i have i seen it even like i've seen it in order in 20 years so i don't know is that even still a thing i bet i bet there's a bag in the basement somewhere

it could be now what there is in the basement is several pairs of crocs and i want to talk about dig david about crocs and uh my notes here say you don't like crocs but you wear crocs so is there anything with that you wanted to that's a good way of putting it i've always hated them growing up i would see them i thought they looked terrible i still think they look pretty bad um and then somehow i got convinced enough to buy a pair and they're like my i wear them inside the house all day that's like my shoe i wear indoors um so i do like them in that sense like they're pretty comfortable that's just like a slipper essentially but i don't really wear them in public or outside the house or when people i see i don't know i feel like i don't since they're pretty normal now it doesn't really affect me if i see someone wearing them but i don't know i got a little croc story that's funny um so i i've never had crocs for years

and i recently might think my wife got me a pair a few years ago i was like okay i think they were even knockoff crocs they were orange so i was of course i'm gonna wear them so currently i think i have like four pairs but i've got i've got a i've got an orange pair that are like house crocs i think i have a black pair that are like i have an orange pair that are like house Crocs. I think I have a black pair that are like, I have an orange pair that I wear in the gym. I've got a black pair that I'll wear outside. And then I've got another black pair that are basically, this might blow your mind, but probably not because you said you don't,

so you don't even put Crocs on and take your trash out or anything like that. Like rather than, you'll put tennis shoes on rather than putting a pair of slippers or Crocs on to go outside for like literally 90 seconds. Pretty much. We don't usually wear shoes in our house. So if we're wearing shoes, they're like our indoor shoes. than putting a pair of slippers or crocs on to go outside for like literally 90 seconds pretty much we don't usually wear shoes in our house so if we're wearing shoes they're like our indoor shoes okay well i mean like if you're going out like you don't ever just like like so i don't have

an attached garage i can just walk into put the trash into so to me like i take the trash out like almost once a day between the trash recycling oh gotcha something so i'm like always going like down my stairs out into the driveway to the side of the house where the trash cans are. So I always would have a pair of like, quote unquote, outside crocs that I don't like in the house. Um, and those are like the regular with all the holes in them. Um, but I also do this year round. So last year I found a pair of crocs that like are more clogs and crocs. So it's still like a croc style, but there's no holes in them at all. So they don't, so they're essentially waterproof as far as like like the part that actually exists so i can wear those when it's like raining or you know now it's winter so like yesterday i had a fucking two

inches of snow yesterday and i still need to take the trash out and i was like well i'm gonna go downstairs and get my winter crocs and put those on and put the summer crocs away so i just thought that was funny if anyone else actually has a pair of uh If anyone wears Crocs, just take the trash out or something, and they actually have a winter pair and a summer pair like I do. Because I doubt they do, but it's pretty fucking life-changing to not get wet feet or socks when you're taking the trash out. No, I just went

to the old Canadian Tire and bought myself a pair of muckin' boots, and they're thermal lined and slides in and off, but they go up to the knees, and they're warm as shit that's what i used to take stuff outside i guess i don't i don't have rain and snow here so i can't really relate oh yeah yeah because you're in you're like you know the the the nice hot like in the you're in california but i know a handful of people live in california everyone's got a completely different

climate so like what's your climate like um i mean it gets hot in the summer but for the most part it's pretty mild all year like it's in the 60s right now during the day it's getting colder at night and by cold i mean like 47 degrees outside so i mean we're still sleeping with the windows open and it gets down to like 70 degrees inside right now so does your gas are furnaces common in your area like do you guys really not not have furnaces and just have like like little space heaters if it gets like 30 or something i think everywhere i've lived has had a furnace um whether or not i've actually used them in all those places is probably not. My wife will turn it on a few times a year. I'll never turn it on. Is natural gas extremely expensive? I mean, everything's

in California, but I can imagine natural gas would just be one thing. I can imagine it being inflated. I don't really know. I remember being in san francisco and uh and crepertino and coming from canada and the apple people warning me it's september and them warning me it's cold bring a jacket and then i was like i'll bring a hoodie because that's pretty much what I wear like up here in the winter. But like, then you get down there and yeah, it's everybody's wearing like layers and layers

and I'm from Canada. I'm hairy drinking beer like at like noon just walking around in a hoodie looking at all these people in their jackets. So yeah, I guess it does get cold there but yeah i can see what you're saying how your version of i'm very aware that it's not actually cold here i always run warm

so i mean i wear a t-shirt all year and then same like you're saying everyone's wearing like sweaters and scarves and stuff when it's 68 degrees outside and i'm like still basically sweating at that point i do i do remember that distinctly until i went on the bridge and then i had to like hide because it was free was it windy oh it was so windy it was the windiest thing i think i've ever been yeah actually probably the windiest thing i've ever been in like i had to oil my beard after because it was because i was like i'm going to sit on the top of the bus on the outside so i can see over the bridge and you're like i just like nobody can talk to each other because it was so windy yeah i've been to like that viewpoint when you get

across the bridge and that was that was pretty cold and windy like crazy wind where you're like you need to like hold on to stuff to not like blow away that's what it feels like yeah it was pretty but it's good it was great i'd go again to drop of a hat so i just one thing i saw on the notes here i want to harken back on real quick uh we were talking about how the prizes or competitions you won is there a uh is there a high school movie competition that you kind of are bitter about your, your, your placement in and anything you want to clear the air about of, uh, you know, where you finished and if you had to share it with anyone or anything like

that? Well, yes and no. So the story is that was, uh, in high school and high school English class, we had to do like a year end project, which was to make like a 10 to 15 minute movie about one of the books that we

read that year. And, uh, we. Sports and books. Yeah, exactly. Sports and books.

And, um, so I think this is also like a good similarity to how I do the mass economics contest. They say to do, you know, 30 second video. And I want like a elaborate set up story.

That's something that goes way over the top for no reason. So in high school, we were supposed to make a 10 to 15 minute video and ours ended up being 30 minutes long. Our book was a farewell to arms. So it was like a World War One book, if you ever read that. And it was it was pretty funny like the people that were in my group were sort of like the the funny people in the class so when when like the class was watching it we we also like went way overboard so it was 30 minutes long was you know twice as long as it needed to be and we had a lot of good like resources like one of my friends dad's is a cardiologist so he had his own

like doctor's office which is basically like a whole floor of a hospital and we could we filmed in there like at night because no one was there so we had like hospital rooms like whole hallways and stuff we could use um and another friend lived out like sort of in the country so his house we could like we had explosions and stuff like that like we could do whatever we want there like we blew stuff up and like had he had a bunch of guns which i'm surprised that like we could have this stuff in our school video back then but definitely could do that stuff now um but anyways we just like went way over the top like one of my friends was wearing like a wig the whole time like he was supposed to be the girl and like him and the other guy were like real

close in it and just the whole class like for 30 minutes like everyone was laughing like dying laughing like if um you just like everyone was laughing so they it was i mean it was sort of a contest like you know which video was the best And somehow we tied for the best with some other group. I don't even remember who was in it, but I do remember that. Yeah. Their video was like, I wouldn't even say it was second place. Like, theirs was not funny at all. Like, it was just not good.

And somehow they tied with us, which is, yeah, it's definitely bullshit. Like, I wouldn't even say it was a tie. Like, when I think about that, I just think, oh i just think oh yeah we won that ours was the best how dare they not make a comedy about world war one those sons of bitches i know now is it supposed to be a comedy or do you guys just kind of turn it into something a little like funny and bantery i mean it's not a word all the videos were supposed to be like fun like nobody was trying to make them like serious to what the books were like it was just supposed to be fun i like nobody was trying to make them like serious to what the books were like it was just supposed to be fun i think we had like certain rules like we had to

like incorporate certain things that we learned that year like so we had like catchphrases that were just thrown in there but we like everyone everyone tried to be funny in their videos i would say nice well yeah i definitely like misinterpreted how i read that so yeah i i was asked yeah that's cool though i'm glad that you and your buddies uh got at least some of the credit you deserve for that that was cool i mean something everyone's told your wife about enough that she remembered enough to uh mention it in the the notes so i made her watch it i made her watch the whole video even you know 10 15 years later look i'm not i'm not mad I just need you to see this to see if we would have won well like I still know all those guys that are in it so like whenever we would all be around we

would still like talk about it sometimes or like if there's a song I'm like oh no that song was in our movie and eventually I like made her watch it because I just, she's talking about it all the time. Exactly. Yeah. No, I only asked about that because I didn't realize I had a whole second page of notes that we need to kind of power through real quick. So I'm going to pick like one thing and then we can go into some questions

from the crew. So one last thing I want to touch on is you and I sound like we're a lot in common with this is being extremely picky and doing too much research for me to buy stuff here. It says that you're took you five years to pick out a new backpack. Is that factual or do you want to counter your wife's statement of five years to pick out a backpack? No, that's pretty accurate.

It's probably more like 12 years. It was the backpack I had since high school, since I think I got it maybe freshman year of high school or even in the middle school. So I graduated high school in 2011 so that's backpack was probably from 20 2008 or something and uh just replaced it a year ago so however many years that is and you're are you happy with the one you bought it's okay it's okay so that okay it works for what i need it for because it'll do it'll do exactly well like in in your defense my favorite backpack uh when i was in probably high school and middle school

was just those like they were just canvas right they had maybe a buckle on the front and you just threw your shit in there threw threw it on your back and you went. And now they're so elaborate. And I feel so old saying that sentence. So I've got one from Apple from when I was down there and I've got one for like Herschel is apparently a big company now that does them. And they're just like, there's so many pockets and now they have to all have iPad or laptop

sections. So I can see how like you go from like my favorite that I drew on and has all my friends signatures and stuff on it to like, what is happening? Like, what is it? Why do I need a carabiner in my carabiner? Yeah.

My backpack. Like, why do I need that? I'm putting my stuff in it to go to the hotel. Yeah, the only reason I replaced it is because the zippers stopped working. They kept getting stuck and stuff,

so it stopped being functional. So it was time. Sounds like a good reason to replace something. Okay, let's get some crew questions going because we always ask the crew and they don't always just give us gold. So sometimes they give us something to go.

Cherry pick a few of these. We are, I think we're about that hour, 20 minute mark just for a baseline so we can keep tabs on ourselves a little bit better for you guys. I know, yeah. Some of you don't love a three hour episode. We're going to try to make the average more to two but you know i i i genuinely want to go around two hours

every time if i go over that's fine but three is but the hard part of that is like we have to speed up now because we can't just cut the cut the guest off when it's actually their turn to ask us shit so like that's the tricky part is like we drag out we drag out the middle too much so that's why i'm thinking we do like it's only tricky when you overthink it maybe three or four crew questions we'll do it live so we're about a quarter of the way

through the episode we're about to dive right in let's hope not let's go with little fuck, marry, kill Dwight, Daryl, or Kevin from Big Jen Dwight, Daryl, or Kevin from Big Jen. Dwight, Daryl, or Kevin. Fuck, Mary, Kill. Everybody loves those.

FMK. Dwight, Kevin, and Daryl? Daryl, yeah. Are these characters from a show? The Office. Got it, check. Dwight Schrute, Daryl, The Office Dude, and Kevin, the big, fat, fumbling oak.

It's a good one. I do like all those characters. That's hard to say. Kevin's like the nicest one, probably least intentionally funny. He'd probably be mary um dwight is

kind of crazy in every way like you you wouldn't really want to work for him or hang out with him because he's just so intense but if you somehow were you know choosing him to run something for you he'd be the one you want actually daryl's pretty good at running stuff too so that's tough yeah he's actually yeah he was yeah exactly and he was like in charge of the warehouse so he's pretty good at that stuff but um i mean dwight's a bigger character in the show i guess i i i would say i know what you're talking about because i'm pretty sure i host a podcast with a dwight true yeah like just if you consider our relationship sometimes i can see definitely a little bit of that in it so i know what you're talking about well now you you can't say you're gonna fuck white because that's your way of saying you want to fuck me and I don't want to hear that

shit yeah buddy do it I'd probably just say 10 10 second you have the 10 second clock FM kick yeah f daryl and then killed white all right that's it that's honestly I think where I would have gone maybe uh I think Kevin I don't know

uh but yeah there I would take daryl over Dwight, I guess. What do you got, Joey? What do you got for him? Well, there's one in here that I thought would definitely be fun, but I've been hinting at it the entire episode, so I don't think I'm going to ask it. It was from Jen, which spacecraft would win,

Millennium Falcon or Starship Enterprise? But I've already dropped a Star Trek reference that just zoomed right over you. So I get the feeling... oh because the aerospace yeah hypothetical air hypothetical science fiction aerospace is not your forte i mean i've seen a handful of star trek i didn't know your reference off the top of my head um i think the enterprise would win what did the enterprise win aren't those like way bigger than oh for sure falcon's like you know basically an airplane size thing enterprise enterprise is

like it's a goddamn like you get a thousand there's like 500 people on it but if it's a race speed wise the millennium falcon would win did i ever tell you guys i don't want to hijack a guest section. Did I ever tell you guys about the time that I completely trolled somebody at my work for like hours about this? No. Oh, man. Okay. Just very briefly, because this just fits right into what you're talking about. I had said something about Star Trek, like the theme of the day, and it's in the district chat.

70 people from all over Ontario are all in this chat. I said something like the theme of the day is Star Trek. And then somebody mentioned something else. And I kind of said, I find your lack of faith disturbing. And this one person from another store said, well, I thought you said the theme was Star Trek. That's a Star Wars reference. And as soon as she said that, I went well what's the difference and she went off on me in front of like the entire 70 people in this district chat trying to legitimately explain

the difference and i know the difference but i knew that it would rile her up and so i just kept playing stupid while also dropping references that you'd have to like be familiar with to get and one of them was um i started like trolling her about the speed of the millennium falcon versus the speed of a photon torpedo from the enterprise and then i just kept pretending they were the same thing and this went on for hours and hours and hours until i finally like i had to give up and then to top it all off on a on a conference call on a video call somebody was wearing a star trek shirt and i congratulated them on their star wars shirt this person was on the call snapped on me then we had an in-person meeting a week after that and I wore a um macho man shirt but it was Star Wars so it was like macho man and Miss Elizabeth as like Leia and Luke

and Hogan as Darth Vader and I pretended like i had no clue what she was talking about i was like no this is a wrestling shirt it was probably my greatest long con and just absolutely trolling another human being i'm sorry that sounds that's so like it's the most annoying thing i've ever heard in my life yeah oh i know i know you it's such a douchebag thing it's like i'm trying to even see if that's funny. Like, it's funny to you, but like, you're just giving that woman anxiety. Oh, I was getting messages from like absolute strangers being like, this is A plus trolling. Like, you got her so riled up by just simply asking what's the difference.

So anyway, I don't think you're going to answer that question. I'm good with these these i think we hit any of those i think we hit all the highlights in the from the groove this week well like we love the crew but like guys you know we we covered a lot of it too and a lot of it scant is old we get scant is old and we get that there's more than one david how many different ways can i say what's it like to be one of the davids it's in here three times it's in here three times. It's in here three times! It's pretty great. Different variations of what's it like to be a

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Right. So, Big David, we're going to hit you with a little unpaid or underrated. Are you familiar with that game? Or should we go into the rules about how you're not supposed to ride an ass with two fucking horses? Nice. Big Dave, would you like to explain the rules to Keith? Yeah. Something you're not supposed to ride an ass with two horses in the cart in

the front of the something. The ass is the donkey, right? Is that the ass you're talking about? Like horses and donkeys are all the same, right? You tell me. It all sounds the same to me.

All right. So. All right, big Dave, unpaid or underrated birkenstocks unpaid underrated definitely unpaid they're unlike crocs i will never uh think that those are cool in any way or comfortable um growing up both my parents had them. I feel like that was also like the hippie shoe that like the random hippie teacher would wear or the vegans would wear walking around in

their Birkenstocks. They're more, I guess, normal now that like, you know, teenagers or something would wear them, but I still think they look stupid. I've stood in them and they're just, I mean, I guess they're good in the sense that like, it's a, a real sole shoe that will form to your foot, but they're just like a hard rock that looks stupid. So, um, in terms of like the public opinion, I would still say unpaid because they're just, I don't know how to explain it, but. they're just i don't know how to explain it but that was it does a pergastock have to have the whole ankle latch and everything or is it just like any like like sandal that's just made of like that like leathery cloth stuff i mean it's a specific brand but i think that the classic style is just the two straps over the foot it doesn't have an ankle i'm there yeah because i'm thinking about the ones that have the ankle as well but maybe i'm off base but either way so way. So similar to Crocs, you do not like them, but significantly, you like them significantly less.

Yeah, I've come around to Crocs, but I won't come around to those. I had a sandal in university. I had a sandal in university, speaking of hippie shit, that was actually called Splaff, I want to say. I think they were out of california because of course they were and they they were made out of hemp and recycled tires and they were the most efficient longest lasting ugliest but most comfortable thing and they genuinely like the bottom was a tire tread the the strap that goes over your feet was literal like bike tubes. They were so awesome.

Now I'm thinking I want to get those again. The, the tricky part was shit like that, that you find when you're younger, that you're like, Oh, that's awesome. Like they're probably out of business.

They probably don't exist anymore. And finding something like the similar is just going to be not as good ever. Well, they got like no overhead. They're just going to the dump and buying, like taking tires home and cutting them up. Like it. Yeah, they got no overhead. They're just going to the dump and taking tires home and cutting them up. Eh, maybe.

Alright, we'll stick with the shoe trend here and the feet trend just for Big Moto guy. Let's go with New Balance. What's your opinion on New Balance tennis shoes or the company? I guess it's a company as well. Make it a little bit more than tennis shoes. I'm going to go with New Balance tennis shoes as the question

for unpaid or underrated. this one might be flipped i don't like new balance like the dad shoes i still think they look dumb and i don't want to wear those yet um i think if you wear them with jeans they look dumb if you wear them with shorts they look dumb i've heard they're the most comfortable shoe ever so they probably are pretty underrated. I mean, people wear them, I guess they're, you know, in style now. I think they're dumb visually. They're probably pretty comfortable and last a long time. So if that's sort of like a joke that everyone thinks they're like the dad shoe, they're probably actually underrated because I think they're probably one of the best shoes out there the final answer was underrated then or was

it yeah did you ask for that horse two times whatever no i'll put my opinion aside and say they're underrated now do you think they look ugly because like the stereotypical new balance is white but they also have white shoes that are just like they just blend in and like they're just i think i had to wear i think i wore it was like a like a like a kitchen shoe once if it was like the you know the anti-slip new balances but you couldn't tell they were they didn't look like my fucking grandpa's new balances that he would literally just buy in two years and they got grass stains on them or something you know like I know those shoes very well, but they make a black version of it.

Like I don't feel or as like old Manny. Yeah. Those aren't as bad, especially like you say, that's like a kitchen shoe. I mean, it just looks like a work shoe, which is fine,

I guess. Well, speaking of kitchens, I'll finish up a little food talk. Tomatoes, unpaid or underrated tomato. Hmm. For the most part I'm not a big tomato fan in terms of I don't care for them on like a hamburger or in a salad

I'll eat them so I'm not like what's other big David and celery like I'll eat tomatoes that threw me off that was like he was so and we were trying to get like a childhood trauma story out of me he was just like no i don't like it i can't do it so i mean we were trying to get a childhood trauma story out of him

he said in passing regarding celery what kind of podcast are we running because well this week's david is like uh you know tomatoes kind of suck but whatever last week no i i'll fucking puke if you put celery near me it was like there's a reason no i really just enjoyed the sentence that we were looking for childhood trauma if i'm not as politically picky about food i wouldn't be here well i don't know i i was just curious like your wife gave me all these so yeah she gave me a i mean i see why she would say that like i'll pick them out of some things but also eat them in other things like if it's salsa with a ton of tomatoes that's fine if it's uh let's see if it's some sandwiches it's fine obviously stuff like you know tomato sauce

or tomato soup or spaghetti sauce i'll eat that so so i'll go like they're they're pretty versatile so probably underrated a good scottish breakfast a good spot scottish breakfast will have half a tomato and you fry it and you just sear the the open end nothing like a hot tomato in the morning yeah that's a good example of when i don't like tomatoes i'm like i'm not gonna in an omelet or something yeah i don't eat tomatoes there yeah i think my my mom would like make like a tomato sandwich which is like like like toast like a like a tomato and like some mayo and some salt that's my dad because we grow tomatoes we grow fucking hundreds of tomatoes every year and my dad

will for five days straight tomatoes, tomato, mayonnaise, pepper, toast. Those are also better than a store-bought tomato. Oh yeah. You ever had an heirloom tomato? Yeah. That'll blow your fucking mind.

The first time I had one of those I was like, what? Tomatoes can taste like this? All right, Big Joe, you got three of them there for him to round out. Little unpaid, underrated. All right, so unpaid or underrated. Impossible meat. Unpaid.

It's. I'm trying to think which one I've had was impossible. What's the other one beyond? Beyond. i had like a bite of whichever one like dunkin donuts had a sample of once i had like a piece of it like the sausage it tasted fine but i mean that stuff's just like processed oils and it's just chemicals exactly yeah so like if you don't want to eat meat that's fine but if you're trying to eat something that tastes like meat and usually people, you know, will try to say that's like the healthier option is to have the non meat option, but it's not healthier. And I don't know. I don't have an issue with eating real meat.

So it's definitely unpaid in every way possible. Yeah, it's always fun because I've I've I've got some vegan and vegetarian friends. I've dated vegans, vegetarians, and it's always fun because i've i've i've got some vegan and vegetarian friends i've dated vegans vegetarians and it's just when they'll they're the first to look at me and they're go i'm sick of people asking me if i'm doing it because it's healthier because it literally isn't like you have to like know more like us as meat eaters we're just like that's got stuff i need and we just eat what's in front of us whereas if you're vegan then that you have to be aware of how much potassium you're missing out on

and how much creatine and protein that you're missing out on and the different kinds uh that are so it's really funny to hear that it's healthier because it literally isn't really isn't definitely unpaid or underrated fake milk i mean that's kind of the same same logic i have no clue i saw it there and i assumed it was would like that's like milk like no i was thinking more like oat milk soy milk okay things that don't have nipples exactly like how do you milk an almond i drink a lot lot of almond milk, man. I know it's not the most, and I think it's people say it's like the most environmentally like un, unenvironmentally conscious thing. They kill so much shit. Yeah. It's just the same, same thing to me. It's just, it doesn't,

to me it doesn't taste as good as milk and I don't know, I, I can handle dairy so I'll just drink real milk. I don't have a problem with it. If other people drink it, I'd be less bothered by someone that drinks alternative milks because I know a lot of people are lactose intolerant. Like my wife can't handle too much milk, so she'll usually get those. Or at home, we use the like the Fair life milk which is lactose free but tastes like real milk because it is real milk and i like to have to to kind of extend the conversation a little bit i do think that there's also a certain level of i don't give a fuck tied into it for me like if i'm

at somebody's house and i'm having a coffee and they're like well i only have almond milk i'm not gonna be like well i'm not drinking coffee then i'll just have almond milk. I'm not going to be like, well, I'm not drinking coffee then. I'll just have almond milk in my coffee. I just kind of believe that the person that cares the most wins a little bit and it's not me usually. So if I'm out with somebody and they're a vegetarian and they're like, look, I can't go to this chicken one place with you. I'm not going to not be friends with them. I'll go wherever they want to go just to accommodate them. go wherever they want to go just to accommodate them right like i work with a guy who has dietary restrictions and we specifically made a meal that he could have and i won't get into those dietary restrictions because that's not this type of podcast but he was so he was just so thrilled that we would accommodate him at all and the rest of us were like no we don't care

like you care and this was like a second of my life to reconsider can i make something for that guy so that's the way i see this kind of stuff like i don't i don't i can't invest that much time in it if if it matters to you and it doesn't matter to me you win we'll do your thing right yeah i don't really care i have pretty strong opinions but i don't really care if other people agree with them yeah depending on what it is i might judge someone but i don't really care i don't need them to be on my side of whatever it is yeah and that's the same way too like if i have my friend is recovering alcoholic and i'm like let's go for a beer and they're're like, well, I can't go to that place. It'll trigger me.

Then we'll go somewhere else. I'm not going to be like, no, we have to go here. I don't care about your tastes. Like that's just fucked up in my opinion. All right. So I guess I've got the last one.

I might do two here. Cause it looks like we need a second. We need to kill a second here. Keep us missing. Unpaid or underrated soccer. Unpaid. Agreed. Why?

Well, I would. At first I was thinking, well, that's just my opinion that soccer is boring and dumb. But since it is like the biggest sport in the world, I'd say it's very overrated. Everyone that loves soccer thinks it's the best sport ever, and that's a majority of the world. Therefore, it can be overrated. But it's just boring. It's a sport that can

end in a tie with 0-0. It's a long... I mean, most sports are long, but it goes on for however long. They're just running around. A good game, they score like one or two long they're just running around a good game. They score like one or two points. It's just not a lot happening. Yeah, it's just I just can't get into it. All occasionally, like during the World Cup or something, watch one game or two games.

I get that like most of that stuff is just fun to watch, you know, with your friends in a bar, which makes sense. Anything's fun that way. But the actual sport itself is just not it's just there's nothing to it to me that's interesting yeah i know it's not i'm not saying it's easy or anything but it's just boring yeah i don't i i like watching the soccer highlights right like that's generally where i cut the line i i can't do a two-hour game of watching people that did their hair to play their sport is also weird to me. And I just, I don't know.

It's not my game either at all. It's just so boring to watch, but I don't know if you guys have this where you are, but when I lived in the city, if there was a World Cup game, you couldn't leave your house because it would literally just be

filled with people driving up and down the streets hanging out of their cars waving flags honking and screaming you couldn't get anywhere if you were any time because we have in my we have a pretty big um portuguese italian and indian community and they will just take over the streets during every world cup which is good for you but like annoying for me so no it doesn't really affect us here oh yeah you'll maybe you'll maybe see people with their flags like a lot of mexico fans here or if like us is playing you'll maybe see something but it really has no effect on it here oh yeah it's it's here like like you'll be sitting in your apartment and you'll just hear horns and screaming and you'll go oh yeah the

soccer game was on today and like you know that you're just not getting anywhere anytime soon it does get like that for baseball though like dodgers if they're in playoffs or big games you'll hear fireworks you'll hear gunshots mostly fireworks but yeah or big games, you'll hear fireworks. You'll hear gunshots, mostly fireworks. But yeah, people will go crazy. You'll be like, oh, I don't know, whatever, 9 p.m. And you hear a bunch of fireworks and you'll look up, oh, Dodgers just won a game or something like that. So that's sort of our equivalent. All right.

I've got one more because I wanted to hear the story about this, if there's even a story. And I hope this doesn't fall flat on my face like I do sometimes with these unpaid or underrated childhood head wound yes finally got him

I don't know why it would be underrated it would be anything but unpaid just an excuse to get you to tell the story i guess i haven't multiple times as a kid i would i guess i don't know how many times at least twice that i know of fell on my head and like cracked my head open so like bleeding and like parents had to rush me to the hospital um i think one of them was like in the living room i was in like a whatever

our reclining chair was and i think i fell off onto the tile i don't know how i was probably like three or something i don't remember that one jesus and the other one was at a burger king at the playground if you remember like when fast foods kind of had playgrounds everywhere that one specifically had these like these rolling things kind of like something they would have in like, you know, American Ninja Warrior that like, if you're on it, it rolls.

And I think I was just playing on it and just rolled on it and just fell flat onto, it was probably hard plastic or concrete or whatever it was under it. And also cracked my head open. And then I barely remember it. But what I do remember was going to the doctors. I don't remember this hurting or anything like that. Because I was probably three or four.

But I do remember the doctor saying, oh, do you like hats? I was like, yeah, I like hats. I used to wear baseball hats as a kid and stuff. And he's like, okay, well, we're going to give you a cool hat. And I find out later what that hat is. It's just a head bandage. Like a big wrapping around my head. I isn't a hat i guess that's how they trick little kids and just wrapping them up now did she fart in that uh bandage before she put it on you probably gotcha there you go

that makes sense uh also kill a second for me guys i'll be back in a second yeah so i got uh i got one thing i'll kill some time with so you know do you want to tell us about some childhood uh head wounds you had that led to some trauma in your adult life there's a play on mofo's episode where i kept asking him about being in a car wreck and having fucking head damage or whatever so it fell it fell a little short but i thought it was funny well there's one time at burger king yeah yeah yeah that i honestly think like i i remember that episode it was was, like, episode six or something. And, like, I thought I got him. And he did start telling the episode.

And I realized, oh, no, he was in on it. He knew what he was doing. I was like, oh, okay. You kept up with it. But how was your Thanksgiving, bud? Did you have a good Thanksgiving? It was good. Yeah, we went to the in-laws' family.

We had, you know, typical Thanksgiving turkey and the other sides it's pretty good i like turkey so doesn't doesn't bother me i fucking hate turkey i don't know i know i think i'm i just i just don't like turkey like give me i don't like like if i was to eat a meat on thanksgiving like i guess give me give me a nice ham like a nice nice, like, honey ham glaze. Like, I don't know, like, they cooked them with the pineapple and all that jazz. Like, give me that. Like, I just, I don't like, turkey's too gamey for me. Like, I just, I don't, I don't know. It's either, it's either, like, the dark meat, which I find, like, moist,

but it's, like, overly gamey. I just don't love that flavor. Or it's, like, the white meat, which is, like, inevitably dry and needs a pound of salt. And I don't know. I just, like, give me all the sides. Give me all the sides in the world and i don't know the the main meat is just kind of overrated for sure in my book i get why people don't like it i feel like just most people just don't cook it right like i've i've made a bunch of turkeys and they come out moist the breast is like the light meat's good so i mean if it's if it's dry i mean i don't want to eat dry meat either but i'll go would you eat uh would you eat you know dry meat or impossible meat if you had the choice

dry meat there we go that's what i thought you'd say so this is the uh segment where we're going to hand it over to you uh does big david have any questions for joey and keith all right i have i have a couple questions for both of you and i also have a game to play so maybe we start with the game first it uh so it might have gotten messed up by the the live recording last night i only listened to like maybe 20 minutes of it but it was basically you know the top 40 moments in massonomics history so it sort of screws up my game but we'll still try it anyways so this game uh you know you might say it's a relatively new segment it's called if she doesn't remember blank she's too young for crew bro nice so i have a few topics

and basically just going to see if you guys remember them or not um you could elaborate on them or not if you remember them if not doesn't matter and then uh there's a ranking at the end so if she doesn't remember the robot voice she's too young for crew do you remember the robot voice oh yeah that was the first like i mean they did touch better than last night to kind of refresh remember but i've done the back catalog like twice so but a lot of it has been like in that like mindless time where you're not really paying attention 100 you know consuming like 75 of it kind of but yeah that's uh she was at the beginning it was the end right it was the end yeah it was like the last like 30 second kind of like like this is a you

know i can't literally don't want to recreate it but yeah i can hear it in my head and it was like the last like 30 second kind of like, like this is a, you know, I can't literally don't want to recreate it. But yeah, I can hear it in my head. And it's like, I always just assumed it was just like a like a 45 year old lady robot. Like it's just like a like like like a middle like a baseball 45 is definitely middle age, like a middle aged woman, like scantily talking to you like in a robot voice. So I remember very well. Yes. Do you remember that at all, Joey?

Nope. All right. Is that back catalog shit? Yeah. That's like pre episode. That's not even crew. Cause crew wasn't around till episode two 80. Something like, don't point out the flaws in my game.

Cause these are all my bad. Yep. My bad. I'm just kidding, but I see what you're saying, but that kind of ruins the game. No, no.

I was okay. Name of the game makes more sense. Yeah, I got it. Sorry. Yeah. When I joined last night on the live, when they were talking about the robot voice,

I was like, dang it, they're screwing up my game. Cause they're going to, they're probably going to talk about a lot of these kinds of things. Give them all a refresher since you guys are both on. But either way. So the next one.

Do you remember? Where's my list? Do you remember Tanner lifting in his garage? Posting videos on Instagram of him benching in his garage? Very briefly. He took a combat rack home, didn't he? I don't remember which combat rack. It couldn't have been a combat rack.

The only combat rack they had was the Ghost. It wasn't the Ghost. I don't know what the fuck he lifted up. It might have just been squat stand or something. Or maybe he just took one of the Elite FDS benches or something. But yeah, it would have been the peak of COVID, right? Yeah, I think it was around then. He was training in the gym when the gym was legally closed,

but he could have still gone and trained by himself because it's his kind of thing. Yep. But yeah, I vaguely remember that, but yes. That was probably right when I first started following him, so I wouldn't have been on my radar a lot. I wasn't in-in. I was just kind of getting my toes wet.

Nope, don't remember that that might uh when did you start listening joey because that might have been around when you were you were there yeah i i mean i just might not have followed tanner right right uh i think i i kind of want to say either the episode before or jen thompson's Okay. Which is near 250, I think. Might have been sometime around then. So the next one, if she doesn't remember

yoga for huge dudes, she's too young for crew. Yeah, I remember that episode. That was early. It was like teens or 30 or something, I think. And I remember they were talking about yeah because they uh the one of their buddies was a yoga instructor and i think they were in either at her studio or in like tyler's garage i think yeah i think they were in someone's living room or someone's house i think it was tyler's house

because i could have where they talked about what's what's his fucking dog's name is it hooch or whatever his like fucking fletch yeah but's get fucking like coming up to him i remember i think fletch was like coming up to him as they were in their position maybe that might just that might just be me thinking of tyler saying he was like stretching one day in the dog but i pretty i don't know i think that happened i think he farted in there or something like that yeah there was gonna go with next there was fart and yoga talk, which everyone farts during yoga at least once. You guys are really selling listening to these episodes right now. Right?

Yeah. I'm so shocked I haven't gone and done that. I have a good fart story if you want to hear it now or later. Always. So I could just tell now. It's actually, it was my dad. But when I was a kid, probably 10 years old or so, like I was old enough that I remember I was there for this. And we were at a blockbuster. So if you want to set the time timeline, it was a blockbuster still existed. to rent and my dad farted in the middle of an aisle and it he he has some pretty strong farts he always has and he just let it go right in the middle of the aisle and it smelled bad so we both

like you know we're like we got to get out of this aisle like this is bad it's like right here and um a minute later we're probably in the next aisle over we hear people like walking over there and they're like what's that smell like is there is there is there like a gas leak in here or something like this is bad like something doesn't smell right and like they were like, what's that smell? Is there like a gas leak in here or something? Like, this is bad. Like, something doesn't smell right. And they were like freaking out. They were like calling employees over. They're like, you got to come here.

And my dad are just like watching and laughing as they're like standing right where he farted. So we like finished leaving and stuff. And like, by the time we left, there was a fire truck there. They called the fire department. They did not. They did. Because they left there was a fire truck there they called the fire department they did not they did because they thought it was a gas leak so wow the fire department comes in

and goes that's great Spartan fucking dummies well because at that point it almost had to be dissipated because that's all the fuck you would think response for a fire truck is going to be like 8 to 10 minutes yeah minimum or like the like the maximum they could get there would be like that quick uh but no well well done uh the last episode with the big david there was an hysterical shit story and this one i didn't

laugh as hard it came and went pretty quick but god damn you you blew my mind with the fire truck actually it's just i say it's more impressive than funny that yeah far so bad that they call the fire department that is great yeah i love laughing hysterically you ever drop you ever drop a fart and when like you know it's gonna be bad like it comes up to you and you're like oh no this is not good gravy and then you just turn to the person next to you and go you smell popcorn and just watch them go that's so fucking rude dude i gotta work i gotta work with people every day like i i you know i was really gassy today so i like obviously i do the crazy thing when we're we're in a van for fucking four hours because it's two hours back and i'm rolling the window down over like 10 minutes just to find one

there's at least at least at least once an hour i'm blowing ass enough to blow the you know roll the window down for like you know a minute or two so that's just if you're not doing that that's fucked up and you're making it you're telling them to fucking does it smell like popcorn so they get a bigger one that's such a you are a little you're a prick to work with aren't you jesus i don't do it to my work co-workers i actually my farts all smell like roses did Did my wife. Oh, okay. I thought you were doing it. Well, yeah, I'll fucking, I'll cup a fart and make her smell it. I don't care.

I respect my co-workers, but my wife, fuck that. Okay, I got you. Well, that's just funny. Your wife's supposed to smell your farts. That might be the podcast episode title. Do you ever fart before you squat? Like maybe when you walk out or right before a squat and you sit into it and you're like, this is right where it was.

My buddy did that. He farted me out and he had a back spotter. But it was like a big like it was like a like a it was like a PR attempt. So like we lost power through. And he had to fucking like squat he had to back squat back spot like into the dude's fart but it was like i think it was first time he squatted four plates or something so they they but they still make fun of like they still both talk about it like five years later it's really funny i've had to like kill the audio on some of

my stories before because like i farted like mid lifts and i'm just like well i don't want people to hear that but we're posting the story so let me just like just like post a video over top of it there's not a fart mid fucking set all right it's pretty funny all right the next one so the next one in the game uh so there's two more i forgot i'll switch the order on these last two, but do you remember liftinglarge.com and how to pronounce that spelling for dot com? No.

No. Not particularly. I'm too young for Kru, bro. Liftinglarge. D-O-T-C-O-M. Okay. Alright, and then the last one is... Lifting barge, D-O-T-C-O-M. Okay. All right. And then the last one is, do you remember James Strickland's actual swimming hack?

His swim hack that he mentioned once? No. It does sound familiar. Because I think I listened to that episode. I can't remember. It wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't that old. But it basically because I'm sure you're aware of the first comment race, how Swimhack was usually one of the big contenders.

It was just was it just commenting a letter and then going back and editing it or. No. So it was. He was I think he was in a swimming pool and he had his cell phone in a bag and he still got first comment so he said that's his swimming that's it's an actual swim hack since he was swimming and still got first comment nice like my funniest thing about uh with james i don't know if it was the massonomics episode or some other i saw him in he basically like his daughter like

doesn't think he's funny or something that I sent so she she called him swim whack once so like anytime I like I mess anytime I tag him in something or like anything like that I always like you know a swim whack just like a play on something his daughter had years ago gotcha so I tallied

up the points and turns out you guys both passed and you are a crew. Oh, yeah. Congratulations. I want to point out when you said, do you remember robot voice? All I could think was, do you mean our first 15 episodes with Keith's shitty Wi-Fi? I kind of thought that's where you were going. I was so confused for a minute. That's funny. My shit's pretty good nowadays. All right. So that completes that game.

Do you have more? Just a couple questions. One question for both of you and then an FMK for each of you. So the question for both of you since we're all big movie guys here in the crew,

when you guys watch movies or tv shows do you have subtitles on not currently there was a time in my life i think i did younger and i would use it but i don't really know why i think it was just like it was like a phase if you will um clearly if i'm watching uh if i'm watching a a a show show that actually needs subtitles. I think I go back and forth on that. Do I watch the dub or do I read the subtitles? I think there was a huge show last year

the fucking, I think the game show where they kill you off. Squid Game. I think I did Squid Game. I think I kind of switched it up halfway through the season to be honest with you because i think it's like i've read somewhere that said it's a better experience to do the subtitles than the dubbed version and that's an interesting it's an interesting perspective

you're putting out there on that because i had assumed you meant do we watch english movies well i think that is what i meant i mean that a good, that's also a good question. If you watch a subbed versus dubbed, but I did mean if it's just a basic American or English show, do you have the subtitles? But I do not currently, but I have. No, I don't. My wife does. But usually if I'm watching a movie, so like once a week I get to have a horror movie night which is essentially i just get to watch something my wife is not interested in so i'll put my headphones in because i use apple tv and my airpods will just read it uh so no because i find the subtitles ruin jokes

and they ruin surprises and movies so i will do everything i can to not have them on surprises in movies so i will do everything i can to not have them on gotcha i always have them on sometimes it'll ruin a joke but i feel like you catch a lot more things that you don't necessarily hear or fully i guess fully hear like if they say a full sentence you might miss a certain word or realize they say a certain word so i just prefer it for pretty much everything. What annoys me and to every extent of annoyance is when my wife is watching something that is dubbed. So she'll be watching an anime and she'll have the subtitles on and none of them align. Yeah. So like they'll say something in English over the dub and then the subtitles will be in english and they'll be uh like what was um what was that one the norwegian show that about like the gods like they um like the kid anime no what this one wasn't anime this one was on netflix so i think it's

all it's the voice actors from the silly viking show and then they're doing an actual serious show about like a town where some kid comes in and he's thor and you're watching it and like you're hearing the dub and you're reading the subtitles and they're saying completely different

things I hate that that annoys me I was like you gotta turn off one of those. I'll accept either of them, but not both of them. Yeah. That gets annoying sometimes. Yeah,

it does. Or if it's like a show, like you said, it's not in English and then they're speaking in English and there's just no subtitles. So I like having those English subtitles. So even if they're speaking English, I want the subtitles there the subtitles there but they're like oh this show is in whatever korean or english so now you don't get subtitles i watched uh equalizer 3 which is very recently

came out i love the equalizing movies i i love revenge movies those awesome movies i love that shit and it's so annoying that i had to have subtitles on all of it because half the movie was in italian and if i turn the subtitles off i got nothing i didn't even get the automatically generated subtitles to translate the italian and luckily like i kind of get italian so like i didn't miss a lot but then i was like well now i have to have the whole fucking movie inside titles including the english was it a bootleg version because i get that sometimes no it was rented from apple i paid six dollars for this shit if i pirately

stream something like or download something like you know a little shadily it you don't always get subtitles unless you specifically get the subtitles too so i little shadily it you don't always get subtitles unless you specifically get the subtitles too so i'm like oh fuck i don't know what they just said for the last five minutes but at least 90% of the movies in english nope this was this was rented from apple and it pissed me off to every extent all right big day where we're going buddy all right i thought of one more thing real quick can joey can you explain customs for the americans because to me it sounds like you order something online you pay shipping and then it gets to you and then they say hey give us more money if you want this yes is that how it works

to an extent um if it is being transported via regular ground mail, so through Carol Stream, USPS, or anything like that, I generally don't have to pay anything for it. If it is something that I could get in Canada, and I want it faster, then I have to pay customs. and I want it faster, then I have to pay customs. And customs is a guy, and I'll use this little box as an example. There's a guy that opens it and goes, Yeah, that's a shirt. 80 bucks, please. But generally, only when it is shipped express. So I've never paid customs on Massanomics.

I've never paid customs on Ghost Supplements. I pay customs every time with Norse Fitness because they use UPS. No, they use DHL Express. So if it's going, it's like a sacrifice I have to make. If it goes through Carol stream, then it goes through standard checks and procedures.

I don't pay shit. But I wait two weeks. But if I want it tomorrow, I got to pay a guy to open it and make sure it says what it is. So they charge you at the doorstep? Like, to hand it to you? They say, money, please? No, usually I'll get an email or a call. Gotcha.

No, I'll get, like, a... UPS and DHL are usually the ones that charge me, and it's just because it's been shipped so express that, like, it doesn't have the time to go through proper channels so they had to like put a rush job on it and then it's like well this is a t-shirt you can fucking buy t-shirts in canada why are you buying this here and i think it also matters where it comes from because i think if it's a no tax state and i didn't pay a lot of taxes, I think I have to pay the taxation for it to come to Canada. That one I haven't really delved too far into.

But that's essentially what customs is. Now, if I'm crossing the border, if I'm over for 24 to 48 hours, I have $400 of stuff I can bring back. If I'm only over for a couple hours, I technically don't have the right to bring anything back. So the customs agent or the border agent, perfect example, as I was coming back from Target and Trader Joe's from New York last time, I handed my wife all the receipts and I was like, just add this up, please. And as we're crossing, the guy goes, do you have anything you'd like to declare? And I said, $311 in random groceries and liquor. And he said, how much liquor?

I said, I have an eight pack of Broken Skull Session. And he went, great much liquor? I said, I have an eight pack of broken skull session. And he went, great. Thanks. Next. But if for any reason he thought I was fucking around, they could pull me over, search the car and charge me for everything they find. That's an American product. So I wish I could tell you really what customs are. I'm sure there's a Google sheet out there that really would give you a better example um but i guess it's just that you know you're not really supposed to

smuggle shit across the border like you can't but i can't get some of the stuff here i can't get my stone cold beers my ghost energy drinks you can't really get that stuff without crossing the border yeah the smuggling part makes sense i just i guess shipping online seems like you're paying for a product so i oh yeah so charge you might just like bs though and it's not just them it's um i think you're genuinely just paying for somebody to do it faster think of it like think of it like a two-tier health care system right where you can take the government system you might wait in the wait line for two hours but you'll get help eventually but if you hand some if you slip somebody 100 bucks you'll get it help immediately i think that's kind of what it ends up being

but so if i order from a company called grim frost out of norway they make uh viking stuff you know They make Viking stuff. You know, here's a knife, right? I might pay $20 for the product and $10 for the shipping, but I'll pay $80 in custom fees. Because they're shipping it as fast as possible from around the continent. Gotcha. Interesting. Well, that explains it at least. I used to, it's funny because you talked about the Broken Skull beer. I used to live within walking distance of that brewery. So to have to travel across the country or another country to get it's kind of funny. And it's so good. All right. So Keith sometimes gets jealous that no one wants to talk about country music with him. So I have I have an FMK tailored for both of you.

You could both answer both of them, but one is meant for each of you. So we could do Keith's first. So for Keith, Keith, fuck, marry, kill. Alan Jackson, Garth Brooks and George Strait. Oh, he'll and George Strait. He'll charge George Strait. He's got some good stuff. I think he has like 50 number one hits. I've never been so fucking irate in my life.

I like like three of them. Fuck Garth Brooks, marry Alan Jackson. Yeah, that's my... I'm content with that list. That was fighting words. We're gonna fuck over here. Alan Jackson's more nostalgia for me. George Strait has like...

George Strait was almost like not that popular when I was growing up. I don't know. He was in the early 80s. Name three Alan Jackson songs. Oh, fuck. She let her, or I let her

let the drive win. We let his kids drive the Jeep. Yeah, it's literally called Drive. It's called Drive. Chattahoochee. Where Were You and the World Stopped Turning. Little Man. Itty Bitty.

Good time. Itty Bitty Man, I think. Okay, now name five Garth Brooks songs. Thunder Rolls. Friends in Low Places. The fucking 18 Wheeler one. Nah, fuck, no. Mama Love Papa.

Yeah. Just Baton Rouge. Call him Baton Rouge, yeah. Alright, so this didn't prove what I thought it would. Because I was very certain you could name Garth Brooks songs faster than you could name Alan Jackson songs. Arguably, Garth Brooks is on spotify so i'm like for me

to listen to garth brooks i have to go to youtube or like the fake garth brooks he's on amazon it's on amazon music because that's how i just found it and i just listened to like the entire greatest hits today so i am gonna say we are gonna marry Garth Brooks, and I would die with that. Garth Brooks is a good man. He's a great musician. He's a great songwriter. That dude is like top tier role model in my life. We're going to actually kill Alan Jackson because I have zero fucking patience for that dude.

And we're going to fuck George Strait. Dang. You take Beer Run by Garth Brooks and George Jones. and we're gonna fuck george straight he's you you take you take beer run by garth brooks and george jones and put it up against any alan jackson song getting controversial i guess like it's just garth brooks was like he did he did that whole fucking keith gains weird thing and Chris Gaines. Yeah, Chris Gaines.

And you know what? And they didn't do music for like a decade and then came back. Yeah, and then came back with one of the greatest songs ever. Alan Jackson has just been like a consistent fucking top fucking five music artist for my entire life. And I saw him

live in concert when I was like, I saw Garth Brooks live. 19 maybe. Saw Garth Brooks a couple of years ago. I don't know, man. Uh, there is no other artist in the world that I can cry listening to quite like

listening to Garth Brooks when he sings the, uh, when he sings the river, right? Like you'd luck not or, um, uh, that song about his kids.

If they're not free to fall then they're not free at all you got to pick them up pat them down and send them down the road just a mush mush what's the one where he has the affair with the older woman i can't remember the name of that uh that would be fuck what is it it's not calling baton rouge it's it's a good song it's like actually it's like a very, it's an incredibly good song. He tells better stories than Alan Jackson, but Alan Jackson,

I just, I don't know. I like Alan Jackson. So I have the, the other one that both of you, mine would be Mary Allen Jackson. F George Strait and kill Garth Brooks. Wow.

This is the most, this is the most disagreement ever on this podcast i mean i i like garth brooks but we talked about country music for the first time ever i think so no we've gone about it before but kind of like joey said like i don't think i could name five garth brooks songs off the top of my head and because like keith said he's not on spotify so i don't really go out of my way to listen to him anymore. So it's just not in my library anymore. He's a bit of a weirdo, right? He's a bit of a, he's like, I don't need Apple or Spotify.

I can do it on my own. And he's not wrong. He's fucking Garth Brooks. He's still selling out entire arenas. Right. But dude, give us something. Give us like, why do i have to be on amazon to listen to your music the only reason i'm on amazon is your music and that's

ridiculous people say he's a murderer also if you didn't know that yeah he might be okay good answers and good reasonings um so then the other one, which was more meant for Joey, would be David Allen Coe, Waylon Jennings, and Willie Nelson. If you're even fans of them, but that was more along the outlaw country line. So you're going to want to fuck with with david allen coe right definitely gonna fuck david allen coe because i mean he wrote the he wrote the quintessential country song right and then he's got a western song ever written ever made yeah ever made yeah i think um and and just the dude in general is so full of stories. And then as a metal fan, he did that album with Dimebag.

He did Rebel Meets Rebel. So if you're a fan at all of Pantera or metal and David Allen Co., go listen to Rebel Meets Rebel. Do yourself a favor. Probably marry Willie Nelson. That'd be my choice too yeah he's a he seems like a hugger and his daughter have you heard her band no okay so she's in a band called folk yuki the word folk f-o-l-k-u-k-e there's a there's two particular songs. You want to listen to Motherfucker Got Fucked Up. And you're going to listen to Shit Makes the Flowers Grow.

Those are going to make you laugh. And it's good music. And Waylon Jennings. Not a good dude. Not a good dude. So I don't think i could name two songs from well and jennings off the top of my head so we're gonna kill that guy so that's that's well and jennings i think i hope i hope you're sure that's not george jones

it's waylon and willie yeah yeah i and it's one of those things like if i heard it i'd be like yeah that's well jennings but like if somebody said right now gun to your head name a well and jennings song i'd be like uh one of my favorite songs is a very obscure song that he's not even available like i can only find it on like youtube and it's like a really shitty video but it's it's like i found it watching the movie uh harley davidson the marvel man very underrated movie in my opinion and there was a very uh like emotional song like a very pivotal like dramatic scene in that and then i was like i think it's like a 13 year old on like limewire right if i could found the song it was like always on my playlist for like my entire like teenage years and it's uh

but like yeah i can, I can't find that song anywhere on LimeWire. I can't even find it on an album anywhere. So I always have to specifically go to YouTube once a year just to listen to it. But that's probably the only other way. The song I could name off the top of my head. You still check on LimeWire? You did the theme from Dukes of

Hazzard. Yeah, I gotcha. God damn it. It's the good old boat. I should have saw that coming. Mamas don'tcha. God damn it. Just a good old boy. Like, I should've saw that coming. Mamas don't let your babies grow up. Ramblin' man. Yeah, like, there's not

a ton, I think, that I would say I love of Will and Jennings. Interesting. Good questions, though. I think my answers would be the same as Joey's. I'll abstain from this one because I'm tired.

We're at the 220 mark. Two and a half hours. Yeah, we're getting there. That was it for my questions. Good. Anything else you wanted to cover? Anything else that you just wanted to talk about? Anybody you wanted to call out?

You want to pick any fights with anyone on the crew? Anything fun like that? What? We've never given him a platform. We're about to go into our outpost. He's got the out, he's got the platform to start any fights or tell anyone he loves him, anything, you know? Whatever you want. Thanks for having me, guys.

By the way, fuck this one in particular person yeah i just wanted to make sure that gets out there like i don't know what it is but whatever they're doing i hate like you just didn't know if they're wanting to be a little david on david hate or anything like that you know he's always jabbing at you so no it's like a it's like a rival but also we're both like david's both californians in a way so there's like a mutual respect whenever there's um on instagram whenever like tanner shares one of our memes or posts or something we always send it to each other to be like haha look i got this so that's always entertaining um one thing that would be good to talk about you guys could do it on another episode

is not like a draft but the the people that are competing in the strongman at the lift hard live easy maybe sort of rank who you think would be good at that because i think most of those guys most of like the crew guys are kind of in that same weight class like matt david toby who else is in that i think that'd be a good topic to kind of see who would be good at that since they're all relatively similar sizes and stuff speaking of that they've done a handful of contests who i don't know speaking of matt this was actually the time he called me and said he was going to jump on so the fact that he's not here is kind of obnoxious i figured i figured when i stepped off to take a leak he uh that he's not here is kind of obnoxious. I figured when I stepped off to take a leak that he came on

and had a whole segment, but apparently not. Nope, nope. Missed us on this time as well. Well, fuck him, I guess. FMK, Matt, Matt, and Matt. Fuck him three times. But not that kind of fuck.

Fuck in the kill sense damn it uh huh backpedal in there alright Joey you want to lead us out of here yeah sure yeah sure yeah sure yeah sure so I've been big Joey you can find me on

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Blog in the future. Yeah, Big Nate did a blog. It'll make more sense. By the time you listen to this, you probably already listened to the Sister Podcast episode where they did talk about a blog post. And all of, like, 10 of us in the Discord rushed over to, like, old Masonomics posts to try to comment on blogs. Because Tommy had mentioned that, yeah, there used to always be, like, a race for first comment on the blog. And, like, 10 years, like, fucking eight years ago. And then, like, I think at least every one that I found, like, i found like that was like on the first five pages there was no functionality to click on

the there was you could see comments but you couldn't add to it so and then nate and then nate put up our own blog post yeah with the same title that they said they were going to give theirs and he's like oh look we did it first it was it was and none of us prompted him to do that that was perfect oh no i think i did just say nate work on this but not not to the sense of like making it theirs so that was all him uh yeah website unpaid intern podcast uh i'm big keith you can follow me on instagram ethanica73 go follow my orange jam then a wine cellar uh big david which one are you this is big david you can follow me at band of druthers underscore d or on the discord it's big david all right and you are the american david just to confirm you guys have you guys spent any time

looking at the names in the massonomics discord i went looking for grant today because i knew that he had like a weird and it's so hard to find and it's alphabetical and you can't get past b like you just fucking scroll for an hour going through all of these names because it's just all big underscore big underscore big underscore it was it actually murdered me today i wanted a video like a screen record that i was dying trying to find grant today it takes me a while because i i i always send people the uh invite to our sneaky discord where we do the the show the the the zoom links and uh man finding people on discord it's a fucking pain in the ass like these are people that i interact with every fucking day

and I should know what their username is. And then I go to start typing it out. I'm like, well, that's not it. What name are they using? Are they using their last name? Are they using some fucking app? Like, what the fuck? And then when it's not in the Masonomics Discord

and you're just trying to message them somewhere else, it's a fucking different handle sometimes. And then, oh, I hate Discord on that so i implore everyone again add your fucking instagram to your discord profile too just to make it easier for everyone make us we can all find each other a little bit easier on instagram uh in the meantime we'll see you next tuesday oh uh i know you normally finish with see you next tuesday but i think you and i i think you and i just dropped way more f-bombs in the past like 30 seconds of this than we've ever done in any episode so with that see you fucking next tuesday