Unpaid And Underrated - 031 : 20 Meat Sticks

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

This week Keith and Joey get to know Big Moe. They dive right into great topics like being old, impressions, jerky, roast beef and the risk to reward ratio of deadlifts. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @moestrength50 (https://www.instagram.com/moestrength50/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Moe.

and welcome back to episode 13 of the unpaid and underrated podcast i am your host big keith joined as always with my colleague here big joey hey that's me and this week we have a special guest the uh one crew that might actually be able to rival age in dob we got big nate moe here how we doing guys glad to be here glad to have you glad to have you my friend let's go ahead and dive right in and what's that what are you drinking this week nate for sure for sure i've got a uh blackberry bubbly uh blackberry bubbly. I'm, uh, kind of along the lines with, uh, with, uh, big Joey. I'm not drinking right now, so I'm not much for the bubbly, but, um, it is kind of growing on me. I've kind of done a little bit here and, uh, so I'm going to crack her open.

Right. Um, I, I am limiting my drinking, but I am still am still drinking um we're on a journey to explore my relationship with alcohol and and so i'm still allowed to have a couple until i can till i can totally eliminate it um also trying to make weight for friday dehydrating myself a bit so i'm having the keats just want to clarify that there's just one of those things that like for health reasons just kind of looking at how many how much i have and i was just like yeah we got to cut back on that so we're doing that yep i'm doing the same thing i'm just i cut it out for right now trying to lose some weight and i've got a competition a week from now yeah that makes sense cool i am having a keats

but i got a whole bunch of non-alcoholic and in sparkling water in my cooler this time here you go i just got a can of uh cherry bubbly it's a it's a classic it's a good one can't really go wrong with it one might call it a banger uh so i got a banger it tastes like fuzzy medicine to me. It tastes like children's cough medicine. I like a cherry bubbly. It's delicious. It's like coffee to me. I think it's starting to grow on me. I really didn't like it, but it's growing on me. Oh, cherry bubbly is delicious, but still tastes like children's cough medicine. I have been enjoying our what are we drinking segments because for about the past month

between Joey and I, one of us have essentially swore off drinking for that week. And then we were drinking the next week. And we just because I listened to a good bit of our episode this week. And Joey even says, like, well, as always, I'm the only one drinking. And I'm like, three weeks ago, you said you were done drinking on the podcast. And you didn't and then the next week, you're the only one drinking again. And I'm like, and I'm a, so I, I did get a, I did enjoy that. If you came here for consistency, you're not going to find it. Well, I'm right there with you.

Cause I was just in the brewery about an hour ago. So I had to shout out, I had to get a, get a crawler for my wife. And eponymous brewing company is my favorite EBC. And so here right here in Brookings. So I've got one right here, but not going to not going to partake tonight. Yeah, I'll be limiting it. So I just know people are watching or listening, you're not going to know. But Nate joined us right before to help us fix some of our audio. Technical guy, Nate.

Technical guy, Nate. Not this Nate. Now it's just confusing. But even more confusing is both me and Keith are wearing the same shirt today. And then Nate jumped on to help us with our audio. By the way, if I sound different, I'm sick. Again, I have kids. Get over it.

Keith also sounds better because he somehow fixed his audio. But we were all wearing the same shirt, all three of us, without knowing what was happening. We all jumped in wearing the Pilsner shirt. That's the 30 episode. You guys are just all into the uh we're so we're so our cycles yeah our cycles are synced and we're all just that that group texas got us all uh you know in sync together

that that was pretty funny it just i was like i saw that keith was wearing it i'm like that's funny and then nate jumped on i was like, are you kidding me? Are you messing with me? Well, that's actually a shirt I don't have. I never had it. I got it at the Lift Hard Live Easy. I made sure that I bought one. But you're wearing actually one of my favorite shirts. This is one of my favorite shirts too. I didn't think it was a real popular one. I like it. I've kind of come from a weightlifting background, so it's the

get a grip to get a grip shirt. And it's actually, um, when I had a massonomics in the wild, when the Dave, the big Dave, uh, saw me up in Minnesota over the 4th of July, um, I was wearing this shirt, get a grip. So yeah, I really liked this one. So of July. I was wearing this shirt, Get a Grip. So yeah, I really like this one. So that's what I'm wearing. That's the one I wore to the big deadlift challenge here in Burlington at Pure Muscle. I wore that one in particular, which I shouldn't have

because then people would assume I know how to deadlift. I got that. And I got the lift shorts on too. So I don't know if you can see that. That was the 3.0. What is hanging out of your zipper there, sir? Oh, what are you looking at there? Are you looking at my meat?

My meat stick? What are you doing? That's hysterical. Usually it's Keith that's staring at me. I thought Canadians didn't do that. No, it's only if there's a catheter, then the Canadians look. Bunch of funny assholes on tonight, huh? I'm over here trying to do math to figure out how many votes we got.

What are you, Big Math? We're not Big Math. Come on, what are you talking about? People are picking on me over here. Hey, Big Joy, by the way, I like your beard. Thanks. I grew it myself. It's all natural, all organic.

You know what that's going to mean. You're trying to pick a fight with us. We're fighting tonight. That was fighting. That was fighting. Hey. Go ahead. I was going to say, what are you saying? What's up? Oh, I was just going to say that

Big Keith getting the first gray hair in his beard, too. I think it's appropriate that you guys, I was going to say, what do you say? What's up? Oh, I was just going to say that big Keith getting the, getting the first gray hair in his beard too. I think it's appropriate that you guys had me. You talked about that last week and then here I am. And you know, I've only, I saw my first gray hair about six months ago. Oh, wow. Look, look at me now.

I was in the bathroom today at Costco and I just like, just all white hair coming off this side. I can't. Well, I'll be Santa Claus soon enough, like I said. Oh yeah, I'm working on it. So we got a big reveal going today. It looks like we

are going to announce the draft episode winner. Yeah, let's do that. So everyone's from... I want to thank actually somebody in the discord asked one of the hosts going to give a prize to the host actually this prize comes directly from massonomics uh tanner himself said he would donate this prize so this actually had nothing to do with us so big thanks to our sponsor i i took that as them busting our balls thinking that massonomics was just going to give Nate a prize, essentially.

And to Nate's chagrin, Nate came in dead last. I don't know why. He had a decent, you know, his team wasn't too bad there. You know, everyone's was admirable and had some highs and lows. And it's all, you know, it's all preference. But I think let's go ahead and pull the Band-Aid off. and lows and it's all uh you know it's all preference but uh i think let's go ahead and pull the band-aid off the winner of the bottle of ale monia courtesy of the sister podcast is our good friend big kevin big kevin with uh let's see his run his run and he got uh 35 of

the votes there were 49 votes and he pulled in 35 and uh big give we'll give big jeff honorable mention for second place uh all he gets is just a round of applause uh but you know nothing uh nothing financial by any means but he had about 25 percent of the so he's about 10 10 behind kevin uh kevin's uh winning episode put together was the uh so your best gauge of strength the has has Tommy seen it? A Q and a juggernaut. I eat a juggernaut. A I for an hour. I love it. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Juggernaut internet explorer. Maybe. I feel like I was recording on internet explorer before tonight. And since Nate finally fixed my audio,

uh, with, uh, so yeah, that's big Kevin's episode with big, with big Tate as the guest, a big Dave Tate as the guest. dave tate as the guest so congrats big kevin uh i'm sure we'll let you know or you know tanner reach out to you we'll figure that out but we'll get you that almonia out there and uh congratulations

and if you guys like that episode uh i'm you know i'm not sure if nate has time to put put together another one in the next you know six months to a year at his discretion but uh i thought it was pretty fun listening to an episode that was us, but not us. If you, you know, and a completely different format. Yeah.

Yeah. That was, that was awesome. I enjoyed that. It was good. Uh, I want to rate last week's episode, which was the top 40 episode,

which heavily featured us, which was really fun. Um, you know, we shared some of that video today and, oh my God, my microphone is so different right now. I can only hear myself. It's, it's kind of blow my mind. I'm going to have to turn that down a bit. Yeah. I had to turn mine down because you were so overpoweringly loud in my ear. So I was like,

Oh yeah. Well, I hope that's just how it works. Like our friendship just keeps growing. And then one day you're just going to hear me, you're be in traffic you're gonna be mad at somebody and you're just gonna hear me being like it's okay relax it's just traffic it's just traffic you really should get seven car lengths of space i'm gonna be on his goddamn bumper i got places to go bumper i got places to go um gotta make that left turn so i'll start because um i just finished it actually uh that my app did that stupid thing where i'm like 30 minutes from being done and then my app goes oh did you want to start this today so i had to like go and scrub and find my my spot again and i hated that but the whole Brian thing just slayed me just murdered

me I also forgot that I had said your mute button is lost in carol stream that made me laugh again because I forgot I had said that and then at some point for those of you who don't know

or weren't listening that night I after Tommy had unmuted us all i hadn't been unmuted or i hadn't been muted so i sat there lying in wait so at about i think that was number 20 and at about number 25 is when I realized I wasn't muted. And I sat there lying in wait right until they went to kick us off. And then I unmuted myself and said, thanks guys. I'll be up after my thing. And that's what they were talking about when Tanner and Tommy started laughing. What is happening? And then Tanner said, so that's what happened if you weren't listening.

But it didn't come through on the recording, but I thought that the crew should know that that's, that's what I did. I laid there in perfect weight, like Randy Orton, the Viper waiting for my moment to strike. And I hit him with a be up after my thing. So I'm going to give it five JD powers.

Cause it featured me and scans and the rest of the crew. No, I don't know. My iPod touches. Yeah. I don't know. This one's going to get JD powers. Okay. I'm going to go old school with it.

Yeah. I want to go with it. Okay. We're going back like 400 episodes. No, that was my bad. It is iPod touches. Well, well, Nate and I are going back 400 episodes. You're going back like two yeah like like 190 200

you know it's it's like michelle said you said um i feel like this nate here what sorry did i cut you off well i was just there was a great philosopher once um that somebody came in and said how many books have you read and his answer answer was, only one, but I have read it very, very well. And that's what you can tell me about not listening to the backlog of Fastenomics. Okay, you're saying? I feel like on a lot of things, I kind of split the difference between you guys. So I started reading or listening to the back log and then I've kind of just cherry picked. I've done some of it, but not all of it. So I was pretty excited to actually be

able to rate the 400th episode. I thought that was pretty cool because that's how old I am. So, but going through the back catalog, because I've kind of pick and choose a little bit I don't know all of the things so I'm kind of between you kind of kind of Joey like where you just didn't you know Matt didn't exist before and then uh Big Keith I know some of them so coming through and you know I was kind of disappointed I think they could have planned better back in 2014 at the Y when they were starting this all out I thought they could have planned better back in 2014 at the Y when they were starting this all out. I thought they could have planned better where this 400th episode could have hit for the Crew Falls December to Remember event. So I was kind of disappointed. So in that sense,

I was going to rate it a little bit lower, but then they totally came back and redeemed themselves. Number 36, the May 2023, the unpaid underrated podcast. So I think I got to go five massonomics, Jim iPod touches. Love it. Love it. I always love when we're involved in anything, you know, when we get to kind of be like, I don't know, I just love being a, you know, we're just part of their world now. Like the fact that we made their lore, you know, uh, what was it? Number 36, it was number, number, number 36 in the blog blog but definitely number 69 in your hearts so you know we made it guys uh but as far as my favorite part it might have been it actually kind of we can kind of segue into our

next segment uh but i'll go ahead and give it uh five ipod touches uh because i did enjoy it but what i enjoyed the most will you know lead into lead into our second segment where Tommy dropped some news on us that he had that. Everyone listening to this should know, you know, I'll be up and remember my thing. That's why, you know, it's what made Big Jeff famous. It's literally it made honorable mention. Did it make honorable mention or did it actually win a number? I can't remember. I don't think it had a number.

So it was an honorable mention. It was just something Tommy talked about. And if it did get a number, sorry said it didn't jeff but either way like the fact that tommy you know mentioned that he actually had that og clip and went back and listened to it and said it's just slightly different and like phrasing and wording than what we're we're all quoted as i don't think i i want to ever know what it is i don't think i want to hear it because it'll just like i don't know i don't think i want to hear it because it'll just like, I don't know. I don't think I want to know it. It's the whole like revealing,

you know, who's behind meme accounts and stuff like, I don't want to know. I'm good. Just keep, keep, keep the surprise. Like I enjoy,

you know, usually I'm, I'm not an ignorance is bliss kind of guy. I'm usually the opposite of that. But in this situation, you know, it's Jeff will be up after his thing for here to eternity. Like,

that's just what it is to me. I agree. I think, I think if anything, Jeff can say, I don't remember what I said, but I'm glad it's helping will be up after his thing for here to eternity. Like that's just what it is to me. I agree. I think, I think if anything, Jeff can say, uh, I don't remember what I said, but I'm glad it's helping your page.

That was good. That, that actually had me pretty heated. Cause I'm like that fucking asshole knows what the hell he's leaving. He's leaving shitty comments on multiple pages. And he just doesn't remember leaving this one in particular. No, he's the perfect example of an internet idiot who's just going around saying negative stuff for attention. He probably doesn't even know who Mastinomics is or what he commented.

There's no way. He's not checking his mentions. He's not checking his DMs. He just scrolls until he finds something he hates and then leaves a shitty comment and then closes Instagram and runs away like a coward. I know the type. I know the type.

Anyway. Clearly, I enjoy social media. For sure. Well, you enjoy something enough to type it out here. I don't know what this last... I don't even know how to pronounce it. Oh, try it. Try it. Try try it wamageddon oh yeah that's close wamageddon i've talked about it in the discord every year so every december since i joined the discord i've talked about wamageddon um what wamageddon is is essentially um you go as long as you can without hearing last christmas by wham it starts

december 1st and it ends december 25th and when you when you hear it you have to post on social media like got whammed hashtag whamageddon uh now to me it's utterly silly. And like you try and dodge it. Covers don't count. Right. You can be wham sass and where somebody like makes you listen to it on purpose. That's a dick move. Don't do that to other people. But it was just funny because I was like, I went to a local pharmacy. And as I was leaving, I went.

I was in there for about 10 minutes. I said, shit, I think I got whammed in there. I just couldn't remember. And I mentioned to my wife I said, shit, I think I got whammed in there. I just couldn't remember. And I mentioned to my wife, I was like, I think I just got whammed. And she's like, well, I don't think it counts. And then I mentioned it in the discord and nobody seemed to know what I was talking about. So this is the kickoff of Whamageddon for the discord. You go as long as you can without hearing that song i think that there's like some weird bs where people are like

they have a problem with the game because they think our problem with it is george michael being gay and it's like no it's just a random song we picked to try and avoid like it has nothing to do with anything else so don't let that shit bother you we are playing when we get in if you hear it post in the discord post on instagram tag me tag underpaid and underrated just let us know when you could finally get whammed so at least it's not brian just showed up i'm gonna say five bucks that's brian i don't i don't know what that uh i don't know if i've heard that song i'm trying to think same i was just i was just looking up on spotify and i'm like yeah don't wham yourself i know i know so how do you how do i know when i

it's last christmas i gave you my heart okay okay okay that's a dick move you just you just recover okay yeah i'm not wearing that okay i got you that's right that's got to be that's the song yeah it's just one of those things too that like when you're when you're cut like when you're out shopping you don't hear christmas music right because it's all just in the background yeah but now that you're consciously aware of it you'll be one of those like like is it it am i getting it is it me it's a really fun thing me and my wife have been doing now for about five years i think i learned something new about can canada and joey and all that every year not that this is eccentric to Canada, but I've never heard this fucking... Is George Michael

Canadian? No, he's British, mate. What's your record then, ongoing? I actually one year went without it. I once went an entire month without hearing that song. But usually, nobody really goes past the second week.

Because you're out shopping for your wife and kids and you're out or whatever like almost nobody goes that i don't traditionally like christmas music so it's not like i'm just playing random playlists or anything like that so it's not like i'm gonna get it in the car or at home but when i'm out shopping yeah i usually so we should have a nate just input you know a 10 second clip of the song somewhere in the podcast and just get everybody wow it's like it's like gangas con nero and keith right now. I can dig it. I'm just amazed that

for anyone, I hope I sound better in your ears. Nate, I think, does a really good job making my audio not sound like shit, but I think he actually run me through four different programs to get it to sound not like I'm in a fucking tin can in the next room, but tonight he was like, actually go into the Zoom settings and verify

that your microphone is actually the one that's clicked as the audio input. Sure enough, it was not the microphone I'm using. It was a different mic. I want to say for 30 plus episodes, I have just been talking into a microphone and it's not been doing shit and it's just been picking it up on the laptop

mic, so that's been fucking fun. Yeah, that was a placeholder microphone for you. Very expensive piece of prop oh i'm so annoyed and then he comes in and he goes joey just tilt yours up like three degrees and now i sound like this to everybody yeah it's significantly louder in my ear so i was like yeah okay well i don't like i can move back but then like also like it's good because you don't it should it should sound better because it gives him more room to probably edit and like not have to have you as loud maybe but and as a as a side note i know our episode came out yesterday and a lot of the crew was catching up um but keep sending me all of your stupid men's artwork just men's bathroom artwork the one i sent to you today i was talking to my co-worker

and then i was like you know i know you think my podcast is stupid but here's a thing i brought up and he goes oh my, let me tell you. And he sent me those ones from the cruise ship. And he's like, every men's bathroom had a picture of somebody calling your penis small. And I don't understand why. And Tyler Aftonstone, Tyler Stone was messaging me about it. Like, that's funny. Yeah.

And then other people are now just all sending me their stupid men's bathroom artwork. And you know what? I'm okay with being the guy to call that shit out. Like, let's make men's bathrooms like nice again. We don't want to exclude the chips. So I want to see what's in the women's bathroom as far as on the wall decor. Oh, okay. I'm glad you clarified.

Yeah, no, I know. I want to see the women's bathrooms. With my job, I've had to go into a lot of women's bathrooms in public. There are significantly worse than men's rooms on a regular basis. Disgusting. Don't know what your girls are doing in there, but you're nasty. I'm curious if their decor,

if there's as much effort in their decors as there would be in some of these men's rooms. I like the way you said decor. Thank you. Oh, did you fucking inundate my head and make me say it weird? Yeah, you said it right. You're welcome. I said it differently.

That's the whole thing of taking on when you're talking around somebody, take on their accent or whatever. It's a thing. Absorb their essence. Absorb the essence. There you go. I don't know. I don't whatever. It's a thing. Absorb their essence. Absorb the essence. There you go. I don't know. I don't know. It sounds bad.

I thought it too. I don't know about absorbing essence. Well, I like the pace we're going, boys. We kind of banged through that pretty quick. So, Big Mo, are you ready to do the Mathsonomics ad read? Is that something you're interested in this week? I can do that. Let's do that.

Let's do it. Give it to the listeners, buddy. All right. Come with me if you want to list. If you're a silly goose, but take drink safety seriously and enjoy weather forecasts, poorly described memes, bodybuilding updates, bad impressions, and beating dead horses, check out the Massonomics podcast. impressions, and beating dead horses, check out the Massanomics podcast. If you want to get strong, stay strong, and learn how to use your strength, become a supporting member today. Don't ride the line. Put pen to paper, and you will see you can't afford not to join. You have your druthers, but don't be a Brian. Join the huge life. Join Massanomics. It's a gym, gym a podcast a way of life go to massonomics.com join do it now or

i'll be back to make you join oh hell yeah as soon as you hit that come with me if you want to lift it was the juggernaut ad oh yes i i hit those uh some of the back or listen hit that but not too long ago i'm like i've got to do that. And actually, Joey, I think we messaged back because I was, I almost bought that Arnold book, but I didn't. And I told you, I said

I would have to read it in the Arnold voice. I do. And you, that's exactly what you said to me. You were like, oh, that's what I do. And I said, that's why I didn't buy it. But I heard that ad and I'm like, oh, that's what I do. And I said, that's why I didn't buy it. But so I heard, yeah, I heard that ad. I'm like, oh, that's what I've got to do. I've got to do the Arnold.

Every paragraph, every page. And actually, it's, yeah, the one day at work, I don't know if you guys remember the Bill Hader story about how when he was working with Arnold Schwarzenegger. story about how when he was working with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Arnold came and couldn't find his makeup artist or something and he's smoking a cigar and he turns to Bill Hader and he says, go and find them. Show me your leadership

capabilities. And I started saying that at work now to everybody in the accent. They'll be like, how do I do this? And I'll be like, go look it up. Show me your leadership capabilities. So just, yeah. Come with me if you want to lift.

Come with me if you want to lift. Yeah. See if we can get people to do impressions like every week. We'll have like Arnie impressions like next week. There you go. We'll do the Christopher Walken Masonomics read. I can do that. That'd be good though.

Chris Walken is an easy one arnie like if you do like the big elaborate the will sasso arnie do you remember your will sasso right yeah like his version of arnie that's that's that's a relatively easy one and then then the christopher waddley um like what would you like? Live hard. Live easy. Like, he's a relatively easy one to do. He's up there with Captain Kirk, too. Like, those are all the parlor trick impressions I can do.

Is that one of the guys from Star Wars? One of the guys from Star Wars? Christopher Walken? No, Captain Kirk. I'm being an asshole like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the difference? Oh, buddy.

Oh, buddy. I wish I had screenshots of that. Well played. Just watching her lose her mind. It's still one of my favorite long cons I've ever done. I thought you were like Christopher Walken from Star Wars. No, no, no. I was picking on you.

That was good. That was good. Yeah, no, no. I was picking on you. That was good. That was good. Yeah, it took me a minute. I don't have a leg. Everyone never told you what happened to your father. No, Luke, I am your father. You might have to save that for next week because you had mentioned that. Very nice.

Possibly going to be just me and you next week. I'm not sure yet. We got to decide if we want to bring a couple of guys from crew falls on or Steve or, you know, I got to ask Steve, he's going to tell me the fuck off for sure. Next week will be more or less a recap of, uh,

cause this is coming out. We're, we're, we are recording on Wednesday on the sixth. Joey has a meet on the ninth crew falls is on the ninth. Uh, so then this will come out on like the 11th or 12th, I guess.

Uh, so then, you know, the one after that, you'll be listening to this after crew falls and Joey's's meet but then the week after that we'll have the recap of both of those and with that we might have to go ahead and kick off all these looky loos and get the guest on the horn am i gonna kick him out from that no i i we have to say it like we can't go into the the interview without saying it for it is bugging me i kind of would be i see so you you you must have your holes i have to keep i don't know you do have

a i think you uh do you use sheets on like a tablet or something and you actually have your whole laptop as yeah yeah i use i've i got my phone here i only have like a half my screen is the zoom page so like i don't see everything else that you see so i don't even know no i've got my phone with the dogs i've got this here my other phone is this thing on i've been in the waiting room forever guys what what's going on all right let's get our guest on the what the heck what the heck at least it's not brian sent you a file i'm not touching that all right big nate is that you big nate it's me it's me you've had me in the waiting room forever i'm really getting pissed i feel like keith in traffic oh sorry big keith in traffic

about to have a coroner here i feel like big keith's audio file on his wi-fi it had to be so bad i feel so bad between my my my former shitty wi-fi my wi-fi is good now fuck all you guys but it had to be the worst quality in the world for the longest time but uh that was awesome i'm actually i was concerned with that my my daughter's been playing fortnite whatever so i'm actually uh took a nod from sorry i can't remember who who it was earlier i'm i'm recording at work so oh that was uh big big chris hornick i believe yeah it was big chris was it big chris yeah yeah because he's in that's right because he's a little farther west too so he was even in a different time zone so for him it was only 6 30 when we recorded i believe

because you guys are an hour you're an hour behind us and he should be two hours behind us we're central and he's in mountain time yeah yeah still in the same state so i think he like he probably left from work at like 6 a.m that day or whatever and didn't get home till like 9 p.m or something because that was that was one of our first like well that was like that was i think at the time that might have been a pr length or right up there but i was up there it was good big nate you want to go and let everyone know who you are where to find you do you wish we'd be calling you nathan nate nate mo what do you what is your name and what do you want to be called buddy um so i usually go by nate but uh big mo strength in the discord uh mo strength 50 on instagram um

yeah big nate big mo whatever so yeah i dig it i think you might be our are you the third big nate we've had on the podcast or has it been a fourth one there? I can't remember. Um, well, when you got the technical guy and then Jack, Jack, Nate, and then, yeah, so, so yeah, I'd be the third. So getting right up there with the Davids and the mats. matt get a lot of ryan's i feel like we're gonna have to i feel like inevitably we're gonna have some more ryan's in the in the waiting room just because there's there's such a a large amount of them there's a couple joey's too some other yeah there's some new joey's like yeah there's so many there's so many new crew like i love the massonomics but like i can't keep up with these people and i don't know if they're even listening to our podcast so it's like hard to know like who to reach out to it's like i'm just trying to go off of our like follower list and

it's like all right i'm gonna make sure this guy's on the list to reach out to it's just like there's i mean they're getting like two or three new people a week or more aren't they like it may be more than that i'm not i very seldom even look at the announcement one or whichever whatever the the main one where i'm just like oh new a new person okay the important thing to know is it's not your job. That's Tanner's job. Tanner's can keep up with all the new people. We'll just keep putting it out there. Hey, we're looking for crew.

That's good. It's growing. This is growing. It's awesome. So, Nate, you see where we're all living in the present. We all know what Massanomics is now. We all know how we got here, but why don't you tell us how you got here? Yeah. So I've got, uh, my origin story is I remember the moment, um, that I heard about

massonomics. It was, uh, in the spring, summer of 2020. And we actually talked, you know, about the memory, you know, like Jeff, what Jeff said, we remember it one way, but we don't the other. I remember my hearing it. I was in the backyard listening to the Starting Strength podcast. So I actually remember that being like April, May. But on the 40th episode or the 400th episode, they said it was actually June or July. So my memory is a little wonky there, just like we remember Jeff's comment, wonky. But I'm sitting there and I'm doing yard work during COVID 2020

and listening to the Starting Strength podcast and just hearing about these two guys that got this company. And so I'm not watching it, but just listening that I hear Aberdeen, South Dakota. Nobody is from Aberdeen, South Dakota. Nobody's from South Dakota. We have four cows for every person that lives in few episodes, but I was still working in college athletics and you're just so engrossed in that. I didn't really get into it. At first, I bought, I think, the Deadlifter shirt and then listened to a few. But then in 2022, I changed careers and then I really dove in then and started listening more frequently, bought a few more things. I didn't become crew until mid of mid 2022. So I've been a year, year and a half. So I don't have the membership card, but I have the patch. So that's where. So initially I went to do the back catalog and go from one.

And I started at one and I went, went through pretty much right up until where Tyler left. And then, uh, then I, uh, then I started bouncing around cherry picking and everything. And then I just kept up to date and, you know, now with, uh, two, three hour podcasts every week, it's, it's a little hard to go back and get the back catalog. So multiple podcasts, but not two or three episodes. That's why I had a week. Yeah, I got you. Yes.

We're working on that. We're going to put a timer up. This is going to become just cut it off. And we we got into the interview within a half hour. We haven't done that in a while. So I'm pretty stoked that we might be able to keep this under two hours. Hey, I'll keep it going for you. But yeah, there are a lot of guys.

I see it in the Discord every week. Who was it? It was big Jake from State Farm today was talking about a Matt Cessney episode from like three months ago. And I was like, okay. But I mean, Dr. Jake's got some catching up to do. But he probably works a little bit more than I do a week. So I get it. He's got some catching up to do but you know he probably works a little bit more than I do a week so like I get it he's got a busy life

doctors don't do shit they just get the nurses to do it and then yeah nurses do everything RNs do everything and then he just comes in and goes oh yeah he's gonna be so mad at you next you know and next July when he listens to this episode,

he's going to have a bone to pick with you. I've got some next July. So I did go and consume the back catalog. So I've listened to every one of the you and you episodes twice. So I'm kind of a, I'm a planner um like keith in that way so um i have been listening listening along every week but then i um then i went back and and re-listened again just to make sure i'm as up to speed as i could be the only one that's done that to be fair my voice must be extra to be fair i had a little extra time

knowing because you guys had reached out a while ago and then I had to put it off. I had a month or five weeks to do that, not just a week or so. I drive a lot now in my new job. If I'm not on the phone, I can get some podcasts.

Plus, I get it in while I'm lifting too. That's crazy talk. No, it's, it's, it's good stuff. It's good stuff. I'm always worried I'll laugh and just like drop my weights. See, uh, see, I'm not, I don't, I enjoy the podcast and, and I may chuckle. I don't just outright belly laugh all that, all that much. But, and then I also, um, usually my top sets, I'm going to be recording it. So I play the, I play the podcast off my phone. So then when I'm recording on a top set, I'm not actually listening to it. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't be doing it on a top set, but my warm upsets, I don't worry about that. But I had 25 years working in a weight room with loud music blaring so I've kind of I've kind of a little

little bit over that of the of listening to music and yep that's just putting the record down that's enough of that yeah I get that um so that would be when you were doing, um, strength and conditioning. Yep. Yeah. So I was a, it was a collegiate strength and conditioning coach for, for 25 years. So, um, for, so Jake, you guys interviewed here a month or six weeks ago. Uh, Jake heat or Jake state farm. Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, the snake. Got it.

Yeah. Jake, the snake. I can't keep them all straight. Uh, but he, uh, try trying to schedule it. Jake the Snake. Got it. Yeah, Jake the Snake. I can't keep them all straight. But he – Try trying to schedule it. Oh, right. I bet. So we're in the same town.

He works at the same university that I worked at. Okay. So I'm still living in that same town. And so he works at kind of the wellness center. And then I worked on in a college athletic side of things with the actual college athletes there. So, all right. Brief work question. Well, former work question. Sure.

Are deadlifts worth the risk to reward ratio? Yes. Hell yes. Yes. So, okay. So this is actually really funny. Um, I, so I went to my first powerlifting meet when I was a graduate assistant, 1997, I almost got into powerlifting and then, um, we actually are, the coaching staff got fired and a new staff came in and the new coaches were more Olympic lifters. And so that's how I actually got into Olympic lifting. So the first 15 years of my career or whatever there, I never did deadlifts with my athletes.

I did. And I didn't do it myself. I did cleans. I did. And I was like, our strength work, we're squatting. And I know there's a lot of sets and reps talk. I was like, our strength work, we're squatting. And I know there's a lot of sets and reps to talk. But actually, in my last five to 10 years, I started utilizing the deadlift and utilized it with myself and my athletes. And actually, I've had less back pain, less back episodes and everything else since I've been consistently deadlifting. It's been amazing. It's been great. So I wish I would havelifting, it's been amazing. It's been great.

So I wish I would have done that a long time ago. I only brought it up because I've just heard coaches and stuff. And I even think the sister podcast has said that these top athletes aren't deadlifting because of the risk to reward ratio. And I always just remember, I wish I could remember who said it. Honestly, I just think back to, if you think back pain hurts, try being weak. Yeah. Right. Like, and that's just kind of what I remember is like, I used to have back pain and now I just have a strong back. Yep. Yep. And it's amazing. I will, if, if I don't work out for a while, I start getting stiff and my back hurts and people, people think, oh, that's, that's going to be worse. If I deadlift, no, you're actually going to, you're actually going to feel better. I know there's a lot of the high level athletes and high level coaches that won't have them do it. And I get the reason why there certainly is that risk, but that's, that's probably one of the reasons I'm not in there anymore. I'm it's it's definitely worth it if you do it do it right yeah i i'm all for it and i mean i've got my i've trained my mom she's at a double knee replacement she deadlifts and you know it's

yeah now are you actually having athletes doing well were you having athletes do like conventional sumo barbell deadlifts or are you like, you know, trap bar, hex bar, block pool, rack pools, all kinds of variations? Cause I know that's pretty popular. It's like, yeah, we can still deadlift, but it's going to be a trap bar or like a rack pool. So curious what you were doing with that. We had some trap bars, but I would use them for specific situations, injured athletes, other things. Sometimes we would program them just depending on the year. But typically we would do a regular straight bar conventional. I had some of my, some of my coaches that used sumo. I've never sumoed. I just haven't done it. Never felt comfortable with it. Just never did that with my athletes. But I did a conventional and obviously it was pretty in season. It was, it was, you know,

backed off or we didn't do it. It depended on the sport, depended on the time of year and who it was. But yeah, we had trap bars, but that was more of an alternative or a certain phase of the train i i'd like to think of it like um you know as i'm getting older and i have to look forward to when i'm older older how i want to be strong and if i gotta bend over to pick up a bag of groceries right i want to know that what i did in my younger days pays off so i'm not setting up a sumo dead lift to pick up groceries in my 60s like i'm not like that doesn't make any sense to me that's not um that's not functional strength i know that power lifting is not necessarily also functional strength because i'm never going to be on my back in the perfect position to lift something off of

my chest but when you know squats and deadlifts they should kind of mirror how you never going to be on my back in the perfect position to lift something off of my chest. But when, you know, squats and deadlifts, they should kind of mirror how you're going to, you get off the toilet, right? That's what a squat is. That's you lifting your body weight off the toilet. A deadlift is literally you bending over to pick something up. So that's just how I see that functional strength aspect. I get sumo. I've tried sumo. I don't necessarily enjoy it, but I'm not gonna like i'm not some dummy on the internet that's gonna mock other people for doing it i just don't see outside of competition how it has any relevance to your life but that's just me i i actually had an assistant that that kind of argued it to me, not argued, that's not the right word, but, but his thought was some of the athletes change a direction with that wider base and,

and hitting the, the adductors and everything. I was like, okay. And that's what I always said with them when they were writing their programs is if you've got a good reason for it and you can argue for it, Hey, good, go ahead, go, go do it. But I mean, all of it is just, it's loaded human movement and you're, you're, you're stressing the body to get stronger, to cause it to adapt. And if you're, if you're nine years old, or if you're 90 years old, your body can still adapt. Now you're not going to do, you know, my mom, when she started, she started with, uh, I started her with a broom stick, just sliding the broomstick down her leg. And we started essentially like an RDL.

And then she's got to, I think she's deadlifted 175 pounds. That's awesome. Good for her. She's 76 years old or 78 years old and double knee replacement. That's amazing. All right. Sorry for the shop talk. I just wanted to put that one out there.

Got to do it. I didn't realize she had you when she was so young. That's a dick there. Nope. Got to do it. I didn't realize she had you when she was so young. That's a dick move. Old jokes. Old jokes. Every now and then they're funny. So you had been in that field for like 20 plus years and now you're doing something else. Is that something you want to touch base on at all or, you know, promote anything? Yeah.

I'm a project manager for a construction company. We build a farm shop, pretty much anything on a farm grain bins. I work on our building side. So farm storage, cold storage shops and things, things of that nature. So shred sheds, shreds, shred. I can't even say that. Say that five times fast shreds, treads. Yes. So we do that. And it was, you know, it was a time that the strength and conditioning, it was, it was a passion. And like I said, you get so engrossed in that. So I didn't really get into the massonomics world, even though I heard about it, but you're so engrossed in that athletics world, it takes up everything. And somebody said at one time, it's a great job, but a horrible life.

And we made the decision to, Hey, it's you know, time to time to step away and maybe have a life. And that's what I've really enjoyed of the lifting aspect. I've always trained, but having a community. So, you know, the, the athletic teams, the athletic coaches was that community before, but now actually be able to go. I did my first Olympic Olympic meet last, last fall. I'm actually going to do an Olympic meet on the 16th, um, here of December. So, um, you know, being able to do some of those things and then get involved in this community, it was, was the reason why I, I chose to stay. We wanted to stay in the area. So this is a South Dakota company. They do great work. It's amazing people. And they took a chance on me not having known anything about that. But yeah, so we're trying to help farmers and build for the future.

And where does jerky and pepperoni and stuff come in? So the jerky in my world as a strength and conditioning coach, I got involved with the South Dakota Beef Industry Council and they wanted to start a program. So in working with they were already working with high schools and they wanted to educational opportunities and then different meals, jerky and things like that for the athletes. And when I was at the college level and then, so when I shifted over here, we're working with farmers and ranchers. So it makes sense to stay on that board. So it's beef logic. And so the power that South Dakota has, like I said, there's only, there's less than a million people in South Dakota, but we have, we have like 3.8 million cattle. And so every time it's sold, there's a dollar goes to the checkoff and that

goes to this, this beef council. They can do one of three things. They can use it for research, for education or promotion of beef and the beef industry. So I stayed on that board. And then so they would have never heard of massonomics or anything except for me being on that board. I thought, hey, this makes sense. A good quality protein. I was actually going out there for, um, for a board meeting last, last year when the price of eggs were really high. And, um, the other hosts, the other guys were talking about their favorite protein. And I was driving into this deal. And, uh, one of the other hosts of the sister podcast, the little sisters of the poor, they mentioned beef being the one. I was like, this is perfect.

I'm listening to the podcast on the road. They're talking about beef being their number one protein. And so I thought, hey, we got guys trying to lift weight to get big, and we can talk about meat sticks and let's let's go. So, yeah, it's actually a really cool thing. Just just give me a little bit more. I don't want to push us into too long, but out here in South Dakota, you can have high schools that could drive three, four or five hours just to play a high school football game. So it started where they will sponsor a meal for both of the teams. So the home team will provide either pregame or postgame meal

for both of the teams because they can be in the middle of nowhere and travel four hours and there's no place to really feed the team after the football game on a Friday night because there's a lot of small towns. And so that's where it started at the high school level. We pushed it to the college, and it's actually led to – it's being launched as a national program. That's awesome. I remember you talking about that at Aberdeen at the Live Fair, Live Easy.

You were very passionate about it, and I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I remember being on a fucking bus for a couple hours getting back from some of our away games and stuff and i'm like i would have been cool to get some free jerky yeah i mean buildyourbase.org they've got uh menus recipes you know they've got nutrition tips and all that stuff and uh big keith i'll have some for you uh this weekend at the uh meet up and for and for everybody. Not just not just you, but just just don't be staring at my meats. I'll try to be 20 plus meat sticks going around that gym that day.

So I'm looking forward to that weekend. Oh, my God. This weekend. No, not. God damn it. Phrasing. Not. There was a there was a there was a goddamn period

and a new fucking sentence started you bastards and you know there was oh you sons of bitches oh phrasing gets me so bad sometimes oh bastards i definitely just woke up my wife with like my rebuttal to that because i raised my voice a little bit and you're worried about what's going on in the ladies bathroom that's good stuff well let's get this back on track

it was one more of our find something else to talk about. You knew this one was coming, so what's the one piece of Mastanomics merch that you missed out on that you wish you got? It's probably the...

It's either the Buddy Light or the Huge Life, probably. I would say. A Huge Life wasn't that long ago, right? We had an option to get that one, I thought. Yeah. Less than a year. I'm a little slow on the uptake. If you noticed, a huge life wouldn't that long ago right or we had a option to get that one i thought yeah less than a year i'm yeah i'm a little slow on the uptake if you noticed i didn't lift at the lift hard live easy um you know when i when i got in um i was planning i was actually planning on

doing so i hadn't done power lifting i was olympic lifting and um i actually did my first power lifting meet down at liberty barbell where we're going to lift on Saturday in March. And that was going to be kind of my intro, my prep to the Lift Hard, Live Easy. And I kind of just drug my feet. I'm a little slow and old. You guys figured that out. Trying to get a computer to work. You saw that at the beginning of this podcast.

I think he's still trying to ask us how to hook up his headphones. And we're just like, all right, buddy, let's it's it's 8 35 let's hit record we'll do it we'll we'll do it live as joey like we'll do it live left and do it live so i did when i lifted there um at liberty barbell uh larry the legend was there and i think i rival him in my uh computer and technical yeah larry's right i do have him beat beat by age there but um yeah so i just i didn't get signed up and so some of that stuff i i love instagram i don't know i love i like the discord but it it it's overwhelming for me just trying to trying to follow all of that and it just makes me feel old like i enjoy it it's it's good but i'm i much

prefer instagram because i kind of control it the discard just discord just comes at feel old like i enjoy it it's it's good but i'm i much prefer instagram because i kind of control it that the discard just discord just comes at me so fast i feel like i'm just like what is going on and and and we have the best like the massonomics discord is out of like the five or six discords i mean i've probably been into more than i've joined and like deleted and left many a discord in the last couple years but like massonomics and like only a couple other ones are the only ones that are still active on my phone is that's like, it's the only non-toxic one I found honestly. Like, and it's, and it's still overwhelming because there's so much,

but you know, it's, it's almost a full-time job to keep up on it, but it's, it's definitely worth it. Yeah. Big joy. How many, how many discords are you in? Cause then you've talked about a couple of them. That's the thing. I like, I can barely keep up with one and uh four four so us and the main podcast five uh barefoot

and then a random twitch streamer who i actually happen to know from my city um but mostly just to talk about wrestling um but since i kind of stopped wrestling i don't think i've looked at that one in months and then i have one for my home city that also is boring as shit but mostly i spend my time between massonomics and unpaid and underrated and it's it's just they're all like they're just mostly boring. Like, I don't, the Mathonomics one is overwhelming and all of that, but it's entertaining and it's constant. And, like, you could miss two hours and check in and be like, cool, I have so much to catch up on. Whereas these other ones, you know, like the one of the random twitch streamer um there's dozens and dozens of channels and i mean dozens like we've got what 10 in massonomics maybe four are active

yeah and this one has all of them and they're active all the time and it's just people talking about stuff i don't understand or care about so i don't like i don't check in on that one so understand or care about so i don't like i don't check in on that one so i would say i'm just it's not you just have to let time management not manage you so i just kind of like look at the rest of them yeah okay i don't care i don't care i don't care the unpaid and underrated one sometimes like it's it's not that frequently updated so just, I really only am in one full time. And the barefoot one, I like what they're trying to do, but it's mostly just people asking questions about their shoes.

So I don't really have much input on other people's shoes. Well, I got a, I got a, I got a shoe adjacent question. Maybe it's not really. So a random fact about nate here is as a kid he grew up in a from what i'm told a smaller log cabin with his dad and his five siblings and apparently no running water so let us know about that situation and

you know i can't imagine you had more than one or two pairs of shoes and how close to chris duffin did you live because that sounds like his childhood. Was there a shit bucket as Chris Duffin had? There was an outhouse and there was probably a porta potty. I don't know if there was a shit bucket. There were no, I don't think there were any child pedophile rings or drug use or anything like that. Child trafficking. Yeah. I know I look like I'm 250 years old and grew up in a log cabin, but I, yeah, I did in Northern Minnesota. I'd actually not my five, five, I have five siblings, but I'm the third. There was only, I guess, three of us. There was three of us that lived there. So I was about four when we moved. And the interesting thing, we went from log cabin that my dad built himself, dug the well,

dynamited the driveway, living in the woods in northern Minnesota. We moved to St. Louis. Oh, wow. That's a big move so went from uh yeah took a legit big city big trees to the big city yeah no you were like were you in a suburb or anything or you guys were like straight up like downtown like concrete everywhere like no grass like there was some grass there my dad was in seminary so there was there was some grass there but we were that we lived in a couple

different places uh the the three years we were there the one was above a laundromat and it was yeah it was concrete and tar and yeah in the city it's definitely a big move have you have you ever seen big city greens the the kids show on nickelodeon all right yeah it's pretty much about what you're describing they move from the farm to the city, and the kid can't adapt. He's always running around on his bare feet. So we went from log cabin, middle of the woods, to St. Louis. We were there two years. Then you had to go on a vicarage.

We went and moved to Nebraska. We lived in a town of 70 70 people no paved roads in this town two bars though there's two bars it sounds wonderful then we're back to st louis and then went back to minnesota so i the town of 500 then i lived in houston So I've been, I've run the gamut of, uh, of, uh, the cities I've. What do you prefer? Um, you know, actually, you know, so I'm in Brookings, which is about 20, 25,000. It gets up probably over 30 with the students and everything. I always thought Sioux Falls would be a great size city. Um, but I've raised my kids here i love it we've got we're 50 miles north of sioux falls crew falls sorry and uh we uh you know we can get there with 80 mile an hour speed

limits we can get there but i to me this is a little bit smaller than i would like i like i like crew falls it's uh how big is sioux falls compared to brookings 200 000 oh shit okay so like roughly it's yeah it's almost it's probably eight to 10 times the surrounding area. I mean, you think about that. There's a quarter of the state's population is in, in Kerr Falls. How big is Aberdeen in comparison to all that? Aberdeen would be, it'd be similar to Brookings, probably 20,000, something like that. I'm not entirely sure.

So I'm going to see a different side of, uh, you know, South Dakota this weekend then, huh? Yes. Yes. And you know, I mean, you're, you're in New York, you're, you're used to some weather, but you're going to get, you're going to see, you're not going to see, uh, South Dakota in December. Cause we're going to get 60 degrees tomorrow. So it's going to be very unusual for December. Yeah. Me not having to pack 17 hoodies and a jacket and a fucking gloves will be nice. You don't need no jacket.

The hoodie is the jacket. You don't need to, you don't need to babysit that. But yeah. So. I've always liked the idea of smaller towns. I grew up for the first, probably 35 years in the city. Right.

You know, I was known, known in the city, you know, like my wife used to call me a socialite. I'd be at all the charity events. I'd be at this event, that event.

And then when we moved up here, I was just like, I never want to do that again. And it's like, the bar I go to is like the Legion in the town that has less than like, like a thousand people. And I was like, that's my favorite place to be now. So it's just funny that, yeah, I kind of, I've, I've been on both sides of it, all ends. And I'm just like, now i just want to have just be left alone as much as possible but then of course i find myself well if it's a legion i want to be involved i want to help you know raise money and blah blah blah because it's just that's the old me coming out of it yeah that's just why i asked which one you prefer there because

you know having seen it all mid i think we are i think i agree with you i think mid-range mid-level towns are probably better i want a target and a walmart but i also like want to be left alone yep i yep that that is perfect that that is perfect so how big is is it ontario when you said the city how big uh the city i'm in is actually called mount hope um and what happened was they were all different townships so there's i'm outside of a city called hamilton and hamilton is the big city and that's where i lived and they they're one of the larger cities in ontario but what they did was they amalgamated all of the townships around them yeah so mount hope glenbrook binbrook ancaster water down all of the townships around them. So Mount Hope, Glenbrook, Binbrook, Ancaster, Waterdown,

all of these little independent townships just got kind of sucked in. And all it really did was raise our taxes. But I'm in one of those small towns, Mount Hope. And technically, like if you go to the old map, I'm actually in a city called Glenbrook, which was in between Mount Hope and Pinbrook. But that got eliminated during the amalgamation. Yeah, I've got a couple neighbors each side of me, and then a turkey farm on the other side, and a soy farm behind me.

And I think I'm in a good position. I don't like people exactly where I want to be. Can't fly drones. I'm too close to the airport. I'm giving away central information to people, by the way, here. If you notice on social media, I never talk about where I am. I don't talk about where I live, and I never check into locations because I just want my privacy.

I'll tell you. I love that. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say I love you you don't show your kids faces too and yeah you just yep you just that's that makes sense so um how i was thinking more population of that city where you used to live how like how big of a city was that oh yeah but if you don't i'll put it on the lulu yeah the uh so liberty barbell is kind of southwest sioux falls where we're going to be crew falls where we're going to be and um the southern part down harrisburg is where it's really growing there and you can see you can have farmland

right there and then all of a sudden there's just houses and everything and so like we're right on the edge there. You kind of get that, that interesting mix. Could I be worried about the gang wars between the two hospitals? So is it, was it the East and the West or the North and the South? I can't remember, but there was definitely East, East West. It's well, I told, I told one of the other sister, little sisters of the poor that we should have done a blue crew and a green crew, team Sanford, team for the Crew Falls meetup.

I think we planned ahead of time and just handed those out. I found the information. So Hamilton has a population of 781,000. Okay. And the current township I live in has 3,500. Okay. Very different. So, yeah.

So, Crew Falls is the big city in South Dakota, and Hamilton's got it is almost four times as large. Yeah, yeah. They talk about that before. I think they've mentioned Brookings before. There's the one restaurant in Brookings they like. Yeah, but they stopped at Taco Bell here. They stopped at Taco Bell here. And they both went twice in the same week without getting together or some shit.

I was like, really? I got a kick out of that. Let me know. Let me know. Well, speaking of fast foods, did Arby's play a role in your youth gaining some muscle mass? did Arby's play a role in your youth gaining some muscle mass? Was Arby's a contributor, specifically the five for five? The five for five at Arby's.

So, gosh, I don't. So what I remember is I remember the McDonald's. I would get just the hamburgers. I don't. I'm sure the roast beef. Yeah. One of your buddies just mentioned. Yeah. Well, yeah. Let's see. To paraphrase, to gain weight, he would go to Arby's, I'm sure the roast beef at Edmonds did well.

To paraphrase, to gain weight, he would go to Arby's, get five roast beef sandwiches for $5 and hammer back all of them. So that made a memorable, you know, that one of your friends that texted me wanted to have us mention that, basically. Yeah, I remember getting like eight of the hamburgers at mcdonald's and you know whatever whatever else yeah i remember packing my lunch for in school and it would just be in a in the whole the the baggie from the loaf of bread it just sandwiches just six or eight sandwiches yeah yeah have you ever have you ever seen rbs how they shave the roast beef you ever seen the roast beef how it shows up have i told have i told you guys this story about how the one time we kind of had caught a glimpse of it i don't think i don't think so all right uh so like back in the day uh back in the day with me and a couple of my buddies in our old partying days uh we we

went over to the rbs near the mall there used used to be a dirt mall in the middle of hamilton and we would go there and we would just order some arby's and then we would just sit in the food court and just like play chess or cards and just like that's how we as teenagers weren't like rowdy that was just what we did and the roast beef if you've ever seen it, is a giant compressed roast beef. So it's not real roast beef, right? It's pureed meat, squished, and then shaved. And my one friend probably had been drinking. I think we all might have been. And we saw them shaving it and i pulled them over and

i said buddy look at the size of that potato but keep in mind this thing's like the size of a toddler right on this big thing just look at the size of this potato he's going his mind was blown that's the biggest potato i've ever seen and some of the girl that we all knew it was the roast beef except he didn't the girl behind the counter looks at him and goes, that's the roast beef, man. There's no such thing as a potato that big. And he felt so stupid. Two years later, we go back to that Arby. Okay.

New staff. There's no way it's all the same people. And I go, Hey buddy, remember that time we told you that was the potato the girl behind the counter goes that was you guys apparently that story had lived over and over and over generations of staff that's the story there's a guy that thought it was a potato yeah that's good some idiot no, honestly, it's a big, giant pureed. It's the same way they make chicken nuggets, right? They just puree chickens and then compress them into nuggets. Tasty.

It is, actually. I'm not going to complain about no compressed meat. I like some good, give me some Chick-fil-A chicken nuggets any day. I'll take those. Oh, I thought you were going to say you like compressed meat take those. I thought you were going to say you like compressed meat as well. I thought he was going to say it too. I was like, there's no way he's not giving me two in one episode.

I thought it was coming. You bastards. I thought it was coming. So I want to hear about a little funny or embarrassing fact and story here we got. It's Big Nateate are you a notorious sleepwalker and is uh were you kind of the butt of the joke sometimes well you wouldn't

know it but at least your buddy specifically said that uh you know half half the goal was to wait for you to fall asleep and see what kind of mischief your sleepwalking self would get into oh yeah for sure i've uh i've always been a sleepwalker there i remember as a kid long before i was drinking waking up on the kitchen floor um having a sleepwalk but um as an adult yes when i've been drinking drinking heavily um and back in my my uh our partying days there were there were some times i actually, um, I, uh, I've tried to go to the bathroom in a closet before I did that one to go off. Yeah. Go off the balcony. I actually, probably one of the scariest things is, uh, party in college. I ended up, we had the security locks

and everything, and we were in a fourplex and I, I woke up, we had the security locks and everything, and we were in a fourplex. And I woke up, I was walking away from our complex. And it was the middle of winter. I don't know how, you know, how many degrees below zero. And I think, I'm sure it was the cold that woke me up and startled me out of it. I went back and I'm locked out i'm just pounding everybody else has passed out and um yeah i i obviously i don't remember um the the sleepwalking but yeah they usually would try and uh try and see what they could do um see see what antics i would do when i'm when i was uh three sheets to the wind but i could never open the potato cage, the tomato cage. Potato? We're still on that damn potato? We're still on that potato. That damn potato.

Do you know about the tomato cage? I don't, but this is the second week we've talked about tomatoes, but now I don't know what a tomato cage is. The tomato cage. You'll have to Google it. The lady's sleepwalking, and she's trying to open the tomato cage. Or what about, is my purse in the oven? Is my purse in the oven? Is my purse in the oven? Well, that would be from a Will Ferrell movie that Keith clearly isn't going to watch.

That would be from Step Brothers. I've seen Step Brothers. I don't remember that. I've seen it. I didn't remember that. Well, they were sleepwalking. No, it might have been Pillows in the Oven and Purse in the Freezer, maybe. But yeah, that's when they were sleepwalk oven and purse in the freezer maybe. But yeah,

that's when they were sleepwalking and being all around menaces. Anyway, well, I want to, so we've, I'm going to switch it up a little bit. We've, we've added an additional affiliate link for you guys.

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So go ahead and please use code unpaid to save 10% at platesnacks.com. And we'll get back to a few more questions here with Nate and, you know, keep this train rolling. Maybe if you wanted to pick one or one or anything out of the, the non crew you wanted to hit on before we hit the crew questions, probably. No,

I'm going to throw in my FM. Okay. Yeah. Well, I was going to, I figured we would do a couple of crew questions and FM and Kate it in, but I know if there's anything above that you wanted to hit, because there's, I do want to know what Georgeorge w bush said to you yeah that's a good

one so um yeah i was uh i was a graduate assistant at the university of texas and when he was the he was the governor of texas right actually before he started running for president. And, um, I actually came back into the weight room and that way at that time, uh, my wife would come down after work and work out in the weight room. So she's on the elliptical or bike or whatever. And I walk up and here's George W. Bush is right next to her on one of the deals, secret service there and everything. And he would come in probably once every month or so and whatever. And he's like, oh, he's not that ugly. She said, we'd know you by the ugly one that walked down here.

So I'm like, I don't know if I should be honored or if I should know what time frame was this? Like what? Where was he? This would have been was he governor he was he was governor in austin so he was that would have been i was there from 97 to 99 okay so right before he did his break it was it was kind of known that he was probably going to run for president but it wasn't official or anything yeah that's really funny like you just walk in and he just gets you with a dad joke.

Yeah. And you're like, fuck you, governor Bush. Well, it's, it's like, you know,

okay, here I am. How many years later telling the story? And I'm like, you're kind of like, okay, I'm kind of honored. He's actually,

you know, it's just kind of weird. You see the secret service show up two hours before, you know, and they're scoping stuff out and they're like, Oh, Oh, governor's going to come and work out and then uh so yeah it's kind of cool being a you know small kid from minnesota to to see that but then yeah he's ripping on you and you know your wife's sitting right there working out right next to him it's kind of kind of wild

got it the secret service showed up to make sure all those plates were calibrated they're the they're the rogue fitness of of the workout i think there was a story where at one point uh there was an athlete in there throwing a medicine ball and it actually missed the the pillar that they were throwing it on and it went towards towards the governor and yeah pillar four and so it was a little bit of a tense situation uh that's pretty cool yeah no i actually uh saw him it would have been i didn't was it 2001 when he was doing his first campaign i think maybe but he actually came to my it might have been 2000 2001 uh he actually was at my high school football game and did like a very brief like either either a pre, I think it was in a pregame,

just like walked up in the field, gave like a 30 second speech and walked off. But it was cool. He was president during 2001, Keith. He was not president when, so it had to have been the presidential campaign. Cause he was president.

It would have been 2000. It would have been fall of 2000. Cause it was my freshman year of high school so okay so it's right right before the election yeah literally it would have been before the november yeah so it would have been like months before so but yeah that was kind of the same time frame i was just being like oh i know that guy uh okay so we're i'm gonna hit you at least one or two crew questions then joey's got an fmk for you so from the crew we had a slew of repeats and you know there was a couple decent ones but i'm going to cherry pick one from a couple from tanner here

uh which uh big tanner wants to know uh he's a you know he's big big tanner if you're not familiar he's a big fan of the unpaid and unrated podcast you know he's always giving us information and uh very active in our dms so well uh he wanted to know which university in South Dakota has the best gym facility. As someone who's probably, you know, stepped foot in many. And why is it Canada's best business school?

So it's not Canada's best business school. I hate to say that it's, it's gotta be the, the SDSU Jackrabbits. I, I, I hate to say that it's, uh, it's gotta be the, uh, the SDSU Jack rabbits. So, um, you know, I actually, um, I brought the strength coach for Canada's best business school up to the lift hard, live easy, brought him up there to come up there with me. I'm trying to get him. Yeah. Trying to get him to join, to be crew, but he's still engrossed in that whole college athletics world. So they've got a lot of equipment. They've got, uh, they've got a decent room and they've got a hell of a coach. Um, but, um, they're still not gonna, I still, the Jackrabbit's going to beat the, get to beat

the coyote, uh, you know, every time. So we've got a better facility. We open right up into our indoor facility, uh, for running and training. And it's, so it's, uh, nope, nope. Doesn't work. Doesn't work. So, um, yeah, no, it's gotta be the jacks. I'm going to hit, I'm gonna hit you with one more and we can move into FMK here. So another one from a big fan of the podcast, big Tanner, is take this however you want it. But he wants to know what you think. Sorry, what does BBC stand for? Did you say EBC or BBC?

BBC. British Broadcast, you know. British Broadcast Network. That is the Brookings Barbell Club that is that is my home weight room

so that is my home weight room so when I was googling it that's not what came up first oh okay that's why

that's on your google so the eponymous I'm not the one that asked it eponymous brewing company is

where I get my beer that's ebc but i'm actually my weight room is bbc that's why it's off of brookings barbuck sorry we're getting a little little feedback here i don't know i just i just saw a ghost going on just a ghost is there a ghost oh wow oh wow whoa you got to turn off your background for this to make sense you know these guys oh wow look at this everybody everybody can't see uh jake the snake just showed up to our podcast that's hysterical and i'm i'm so confused like are you you're legitimately there you're not just like you're oh yeah mirroring the two screens together well they're you guys

can't live more than a few minutes apart probably brookings is only so big so that is uh welcome welcome buddy yeah long time no see uh no he's gonna take a picture we just got to the we just got to the crew question part. Nice sweater. I see that. That's the camel sweater. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's cold out. You got to wear your Masonomics coat.

Oh, yeah. It was a beautiful day. But, yes, a little chilly now. Yeah. Guys, you got to do your best to make sure it's still 60 when I get there Friday at noon. I don't want to be cold, damn it. That would be tough. All right. I like that want to be cold, damn it. That would be tough. All right.

I like that we're full of pop now. Nate's trying to do technical stuff and not working. He's the wrong Nate for that. We learned that already. Not that I got much of a leg to stand on because I'm just now coming to your ears properly. That's so weird. It keeps saying Jake the Snake is it? It keeps saying Jake, the snake is talking. How are you doing that? I, there we go.

Where'd it go? Where'd it go? I'm, I'm in the zoom, but I'm just talking through my AirPods so that I didn't, I didn't want to have to like share, share his mic. That's yeah.

I didn't want, I didn't want Nate's ear wax in my, in my ear. So, you know, I hope this is picking you up. Because otherwise... I think it should. It's in our ears, so it should be.

Hopefully it's not the same incident. I will use that line all day. Any sexual innuendo I can make. I'm all about those. I don't know if we want to go to FMK. I don't think if there's anything we can ask jake but i think no i'm gonna i'm gonna jump into fmk this is still this is still big nate's episode and yeah yeah i don't want to stick around too long for sure i just wanted to say hi

oh yeah happy to have you and just because uh i'm here i wanted to shout out Big Nate, not the other Big Nate, Technical Nate. He's helping me with something pretty magical for the Lift Hard, Live Easy strongman. Can't reveal it yet, but we got some big things in the works, and I just wanted to make sure that everyone knew about it, that there's going to be some magical things happening. He's going to hate this episode because this whole episode has just been us praising him because he didn't get a chance when because he always kind of uh sometimes nate can listen to the whole episode and like you know add a bunch of shit to it other times he'll text us on sunday be like all right guys i didn't get a chance to listen to it is there anything i need to edit out and we're just like no man we just we actually like gave you praise for your draft episodes

like oh we we can we we can we we can't have any of that. He clearly doesn't want any attention. I always like giving him extra attention because I know he doesn't want it. He's a rock star. I'll let you guys get back to it. See you. See you in about 24 hours, buddy. Or 30 hours.

Yeah, see you. Later, bud. Good deal. That's awesome. That was a neat surprise. See ya. Later, bud. Good deal. Good deal. That's awesome. That was a neat surprise. Yeah, that's a good cameo. We never really got tricked like that before. That was cool. No, we usually do the tricking. What made it extra confusing...

Did we talk about other... We know we talked about it in pregame, but I don't know since we hit record. Like, Big Nate's background is... Literally, as I go to say it, he fucking gets rid of it. But Big Nate's background the entire well, literally as I go to say it, he fucking gets rid of it, but big Nate's background the entire episode was, you know, he who not be named, the man that keeps on skipping

our calls and not wanting to be a part of the podcast, and it's just been amusing because I got to see those fucking flowing locks behind Nate's head the whole episode. So then to have Jake walk in and be like, I'm like, okay okay did he do something with the background again but no jake's actively talking i'm so confused so that was uh i love it i was working

i was working on that when i wanted to get him get him in here i didn't know if we could get it to work out i was gonna try and get rid of my back that's the fact that like we're doing a podcast that got a dude to like get out of his house and drive dude to be on a podcast that's about another podcast for like for like a two minute bit like that makes me so proud of what we do like i'm so happy that that just happened yeah that was really fun i'm i'm glad it worked out i wanted to do it and he's like i gotta get the kids to bed and whatever he said probably after 8 30 i was like oh, oh, this is going to work out perfect. So that was awesome. All right.

Well, we've stolen the time. Let's go and move into FMK. I know Joey's been anxiously waiting to get this. Well, we just like FMK has just become a part of this, right? Yeah, pretty much. It's like an easy thing to do that might cause some controversy. Sometimes it doesn't, but it just tends to be on every episode. So I thought this time,

when everybody was saying, run with the name Moe, everybody in the Discord was like, go with the name Moe. And they all had their different ideas, and I settled on these. So I want you to FMK these famous Moes.

Are you ready? I'm ready. Mo Sislak, who's the bartender from The Simpsons, Mo Howard from The Three Stooges, or the MOE, the Ministry of Education. FMK those three. Oh, wow. Okay.

FMK, Moe Sislak, Moe Howard, and the Ministry of Education? You forget how fucking hard it was to find anybody famous named Mo and like I had Mo I had Mo Howard immediately and I was sitting at dinner and I was just asking strangers I was like give me a famous Mo

that's not Mo says like a Mo Howard and one guy goes my cat's name is Mo I was like first of all what are the fucking odds of that second of all i'm not using that but yeah that doesn't help but it was really it was random because i had no clue who that guy was that was pretty funny so i ended up going i googled mo and got the ministry of education and was like that's fucking hilarious i'm throwing that in i'm glad you i'm glad you explained it.

I thought it was a Harry Potter reference at first. I'm like, no, that's the Ministry of Defense. It's literally a government entity called the Ministry of Education. Where? It's got to be like... The whole world has Ministry of Educations, Keith. We have Department of Educations. We don't call them ministries.

Really? It's all good. It's the conversion rate. How many kilometers does a ministry reach to an MPH? How many kilometers? I had a Three Stooges poster on my wall when i was a kid um so i think uh i'm gonna i'm gonna go i'm gonna marry mo howard um the the ministry of of education um we're gonna we're

gonna kill that because we're not talking politics or government or anything and so we're gonna we're gonna kill that because we're not talking politics or government or anything and so we're gonna we're gonna f moses lack so simpsons bartender that's where i'm going what was his cat was it always uh mose tavern like is that what he said on the phone like because he just answered the phone and always got the bart fucking prank calls but he just it was just like m's tavern and then it just went right into like you know is is is is mike hunt there but but not that it was a kid show yeah um actually that's one of my favorite lines which is ned flanders looking him dead in the face and saying you are a mean and hateful man and mo goes hey i might be mean and hateful what was that

third thing you said and that's always been one of my favorite things that's funny i think i've seen the simpsons in years like i probably watched it's not worth it's still on like is it still actually pumping episodes out on sundays yeah wow that's gotta be like 35 years right like yeah it's crazy it's a It's a long time. Was it like in 88, 89, 90? It was definitely early, early 90s, late 80s. Early 90s, late 80s. Yeah, somewhere in there.

I don't think I've watched it since like 2002. I never watched it a whole lot, but I did watch it some. And one of the ones that just stuck with me, I don't know when and where it was, but Homer is walking down the stairs and he starts clutching his chest. He's like, chest pain. And then you see the wafting smell. He's smelling something. Chest pain.

Ooh, bacon. He's like mid-heart attack He's like, ooh, bacon It's just one of the ones that always stuck with me Well, speaking of smelling things I'm going to get into our Our third ad read of the day Which is Obsidian Ammonia

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and use code UNPAID on any order to save 15%. Personally, I've got a pack of the ampules that he released for Black Friday. I'll be bringing those to my meet this weekend. I think the ampules are very good in between. I've noticed that they don't hurt as much as some of his other stuff but they still have a very good effect um you know i've got right now here in front of me i've got the um the menthol regret which smells like my childhood which is the

um the menthol cigarettes and uh stuff you know some every once in a while you get away if it goes under your eye and it might actually fuck up your lift and i found that the ampules don't do that yeah i've uh i think i'm gonna pull ammonia out for squat and bench like at least for like in trend like my house like just in my gym like i i did literally didn't do ammonia for fucking 38 years and then like i was just like oh let me if i feel obligated to their sponsor i have this bottle let me at least try it and i'm like oh then it kind of came a routine anything over like an rp eight and a half i'll fucking do some ammonia and then it's just like but then if i miss a fucking lift i'm like what was it the ammonia's fault because i was fucking like all fucked up for literally something that was only

like 92 percent that i didn't have so it can do that i think i'm gonna save them for just dead lifts if i'm gonna do shit around that if i'm gonna do them in the basement i just i don't know like 92% that I didn't have. So I think I'm going to save them for just deadlifts. If I'm going to do shit around that, if I'm going to do them in the basement, I just, I don't know. I don't, I need to, I need to, I need to pause on that. I've never done it for, uh, uh, for a max attempt. I hadn't done it, whatever. And I actually brought my bottle in here, uh, to work from the, from the lift hard, live easy. That's the big question. It is activated. I probably wouldn't have known that if I hadn't been getting

educated while entertained on the Underrated Podcast. I appreciate that, Big Grayson, because I would not have known that. I had a couple of my coworkers try it. They actually brought it up. They started talking about it. I was like, oh, they started talking about it.

I was like, hey, I've got a bottle. And it was just kind of random here. And so I brought it in here and I just had them try that today. So it's pretty funny. And so I have a bit of a funny story. She's going to hate me for telling it. But I came home, I think, one night last week. And I had cracked an ampule while just kind of halfway home because because I live kind of far from work and I don't want to fall

asleep driving home. And I thought I'd be funny. And I walked into my wife and I went, Hey, what does this smell like to you? Thinking she would look at it and see that it was ammonia and tell me to piss off. No,

he went in and I mean like all the way and i thought it was so funny and she did not think it was funny at all i can't imagine she did especially if she was like like ready for bed and shit too and like after the long day she was really mad at me for a good hour or so. Yeah, you fucked that up. Yeah, no. And I finally had to say, like, hey, it's never happened before. It'll never happen again. And I'm sorry.

I didn't think it would be that way. So, sorry, honey. However, at the time, that was probably one of the funniest things I think that I've ever seen. Just thinking she would go, get that out of here. And instead, instead she didn't even blink she went in all the way and i was like oh no like popcorn huh i'm gonna pay for that i did not smell like popcorn uh i did that a couple years ago not with the ammonia but uh we were outside over the holidays and throwing snowballs and doing all that. And my wife was coming out from like, it was so far away. So I'm going to throw it just to, you know, it's going to land by here.

It'd be funny. And I actually connected. Oh, man, I felt so bad. It was like, you're never going to hit her. She's so far away. Yeah. And then you just immediately, you're just like, you're never going to hit her. She's so far away. Yeah. And then you just immediately, you're just like,

what did I? Oh, yeah. Well, and then the conflict is that was really funny. I want to laugh so hard, but I also want to make sure you're okay first. And they're never okay.

They're never okay. Yes. Anyway, if you're listening, honey, which you probably are at some point I'm sorry I love you but next time I jam something in your face and say it was a smell like don't don't just take a whiff well

we're gonna leave that one hanging there I'm gonna do a little unpaid or underrated then I'll hit them with another ad read after that. Sure. Let's go ahead and do that. Are you ready, Big Nate? Are you familiar with this game? Do you want to explain the rules to the people? Because me trying to explain last week did not go well.

What did I say? Like one ass and two horses or something? I butchered that son of a bitch. Yeah, essentially, we've got a list of unpaid or overrated topics, and you've got to pick whether they are unpaid or overrated. Unpaid or underrated. Unpaid or underrated? You said overrated.

What am I, you? I can't figure this out? You made me have to look at it. I'm like, wait, did he pick it up? You guys know how my computer skills are don't try confusing me now i'm uh this is no you've actually listened to more episodes than i have so i'm assuming you're gonna get this right before i do oh i don't know i don't know all right all right so okay hold on i've got yeah no go ahead no you want to no no you can

serenade their ears with the, with the, okay. So unpaid or underrated, we're going to go with wooden squat racks. Wooden squat racks are very underrated, very underrated. So I've got one of the best squat racks out there. My dad, my dad made it. And yeah, it's, it's a work of art. It's, it's amazing. I've got it in my basement and it's, yeah, it's absolutely incredible. It's so, he actually, he actually learned, he does woodwork and he learned a new joint

technique in order to build that, some kind of joint that they used back in the day in old barns or whatever. But obviously he built the log cabin. He's very, he's very talented with, with all that kind of stuff. So it's, it's a pretty sweet deal. It's, it's functional. It's going to hold anything that I can, that I can lift. And it's something that my, that my dad made for me. So pretty awesome. Now, was that a COVID necessity thing? Or was that just like he is a woodworker and he just was like, oh, Nate's into, you know, he literally does this for a profession. It's his hobby, his passion.

I'm going to build him something that he can give it to his kids or something like that. Tell me that story. No. So actually, when I worked in the weight room, I always worked out where I worked. So never needed anything at home. Um, when right as COVID hit, we actually went on a trip, my wife and I, um, and left the country, went to the British Virgin islands. And when we were gone, when COVID started, like we were the last flight out getting back and I had set up this small weight room for my mom when she was training in my in my basement right otherwise I'd never had a weight

room at home and so my dad actually ended up building a wood squat rack for my mom when she started training and I saw that I'm like gosh's really cool. So then when I left strength and conditioning, I was at home and I just had these squat stands that I had set up for my mom. And I'm like, you know what? I'd really love to have a wood squat rack. So, um, then I, and then I asked him, Hey, can you build one? That's a, you know, beefier than what, than what you built for my mom. But, uh, you know, and so it was, i never needed it until i left the strength and conditioning realm and then i i asked him to do it do it for me so i'd have that and so i had something more than squat stands and yeah it's it's it's awesome that's amazing i think my favorite part might be

that that assuming he's your mom's age ish that he would have been in his like mid to late 70s when he did that for you too so like that's that's just cool that, uh, you know, you were still able to get something like, you know, you're able to have something that, you know, how you God willing, you haven't, you know, he's in your life for another 20 years, but if not, you're going to have that squat rack for the rest of your life. Potentially. Oh yeah. It's, it's, yeah, it's incredible. He made me, he actually made me, um, uh, a wood deadlift Jack as well. So it's not like your,

your typical power lifting where it's lifting everything up but it lifts one end up and that's actually i gave um gave one of those to the massonomics gym to one of the other sister podcasts in in his sack so um i got that there i know it's not real functional there but i think it's, it's a little, little, uh, piece of art. My, my first deadlift jack was a half jack. Yeah. Like when you got limited space and stuff like that. Yeah. That's absolutely the way to go is just one of those kind of get, get the most of the weights off and then you can handle the one last plate.

Yeah. I, I, I like, I like wood anyway. So. Hey. Yeah. Butding, yeah. Right, Big Nate, my second one here for you of unpaid or underrated. I'm going to go with volleyball. Volleyball?

Yeah, maybe specifically girls' high school volleyball. No. That's something you've had to watch a lot of recently. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you set him up here for now no he no no no no he had to cancel he had to cancel last episode because his daughter's was in like a high school tournament that's fantastic yeah so my my daughter is a senior and she just finished up her high school volleyball career and well yeah her volleyball career so um gosh you can't ride the line uh i don't want to uh i'm gonna say it is underrated i say it's underrated um i don't want to sound like a creep because i'm underrating uh

high school it could literally be volleyball. The creepy old guy. It's volleyball as a whole. Jesus. As a strength and conditioning coach, I worked with the volleyball team there as well. And it was one of my favorite sports to train because it's such an explosive sport. Your training. I mean, they're really, really good athletes there.

You know, my daughter, daughter unfortunately is got my height. So she's, uh, she's pretty short. So she was, uh, she's a libero and, uh, but she's, she had probably had the highest vertical on the team, but she's only five, two. So, um, she's going to play back row, but the athletes are, they're, they're very explosive. They're really good athletes. So I always enjoyed training for that, uh, as well when I was a, when I was a strength coach, cause you're, you're doing, you know, strength and power work. It's, it's a lot of fun. So, so underrated. Nice. Yeah. I figured you've had to watch a lot of that the last few years. So you'd have pretty a strong opinion. Uh, and it's, it's really growing in popularity. The, the college game is really growing in popularity this year with Nebraska and everything.

It's growing like crazy. They actually drew more fans than their football team did. So it's growing, but it's still underrated. Is men's volleyball that popular? I remember my dad played volleyball in high school, I think. But it's not a common thing for there to be men's volleyball like that popular? Like I remember my dad played volleyball in high school, I think. But like it's not a common thing for there to be like men's volleyball, like sanctioned teams as opposed to like club stuff. Yeah. So we don't have it here.

I think I believe Minnesota just passed it as a high school sport this year. And they're going to play in the spring. So they're going to play in the spring. So they're going to play opposite the girls. And I know on like California, they had, I remember being at a strength coach conference and like UCLA had men's volleyball. And I always heard, I've never really been to the East Coast, but I always heard it was kind of popular out there. But in the Midwest here, you don't really, you don't hear of it other than just this

year, I think Minnesota for the first year. It's smart to run it as a spring sport rather than a fall or winter because you're going to get, basically, as long as you're not playing baseball or turning track, you can at least get the opportunity to go out for that. Yep. All right. So my third and final for you, it's going to probably hit pretty home to you. There might be some funny stories with it. Let's go with getting a senior discount. The senior discount. Yes. So,

um, yeah, I, uh, I've got the beard. Um, uh, so at, uh, SDSU, our homecoming is hobo day. And, um, one of the traditions is for the month before you don't shave. So I always got into grow the beard for a month and my wife doesn't love it because she says it makes me look a lot older and I'm, I'm pretty gray. I started, I found my first gray hair when I was 18. So, um, and, but I'm, I am growing it and growing it out. I've typically kept it at least through New Year's. I was thinking I'd love to grow it out longer, but we'll see. And it definitely does make me look older. And yeah, just recently went to a pizza ranch, pizza ranch. And I believe that's been talked about as a Midwest staple on the on the sister podcast and went there. And the guy just automatically plugged it in as a Midwest staple on the sister podcast and went there and the guy just automatically plugged

it in as a senior discount. Didn't ask me or whatever. And I'm like, I saved three bucks. He didn't even ask. It wasn't even a question. So I'm on the flip side. I remember being in my early, early thirties or maybe even maybe still in my 20s and and uh walking into a bar restaurant and uh they carded my wife and my sister-in-law and then i walked up and they they weren't gonna card me i'm like uh you're not gonna card me too and he's like i've never seen anybody dye their gray in order to not get carded. So I got that side. Now I'm getting a senior discount early. So hey, save me three bucks.

I'm going to take it. And then it just makes my lifting that much more impressive if you assume that I'm older than I am today. Yeah, you're like that master's five, whatever. That's just five? All right. Go ahead. Yeah. That's just five. All right. So I guess I, go ahead. Yeah.

So did I, I don't know if I gave you a rating on that. No. Oh yeah. Okay. I moved on too far. I don't, I don't want to,

I don't want to mess things up. I, so that's, Hey, save me three bucks. It's a, it's underrated. I'm a,

I'm a, I'm, I'm on a theme here. Theme here. Underrated. I'm on a theme here. Theme here. Underrated. Alright. I guess that leaves the last three to me. I only know why one of these are on here.

The one that you put on there? Yeah, that's the one. So, unpaid or underrated Olympic weightlifting. Unpaid or underrated Olympic weightlifting. Unpaid or underrated Olympic weightlifting. So as I said, I almost got into powerlifting. That was when I was early on in my early 20s and then ended up getting into Olympic weightlifting. I've done multiple

meets there. I've enjoyed it. I'm training for one. I've actually got one on the 16th there. But there's, there's a lot of kind of, kind of BS and politics stuff going on with the, with weightlifting, just like there seems to be with the, uh, the other, uh, the powerlifting organizations and everything. So I don't really love that. Um, but gosh, I don't know. I'm sounding like a broken record, but I think I got to go underrated. I, I love it. I enjoy it. It's, um, you know, I love, i love snatching um it's a lot of fun love it feel somewhat athletic and it's it's fun to continue to do that i mean who doesn't love

snatch right yeah i was that's right up keith s No. Are there a hundred different like weightlifting federations? Is there as powerlifting or is there just like one or two? Uh, there's USA weightlifting and then there's international. I don't think there was a, I've tried to stay out of all of that, but I think there was one, there was a big hullabaloo about there. There was like a master's organization that started and then, then USA weightlifting did a big thing to, to get them back. I don't know. I just, I just want to, I I'm a member. I want to,

I want to be able to go and do a meet. And so last year I did a master's only meet and that was, I mean, that was a ton of fun. And, um, Were you able to use your senior discount? Good call I'll quit interrupting Joey's segment Alright, it's our segment You're 50% of it

Alright, so I guess I got two left here I gotta see which one's gonna get the most interesting reaction So unpaid or underrated Mastication uh mastication is that like the chewing with your mouth chewing oh oh i thought i thought we were talking about like the uh you about having the second stomach and all that. It just means chewing, but I thought I would just make it a funny word

because it sounds like masturbation. Get it, guys? Not enough dick jokes for one podcast. Mastication. What the fuck is that? Does that say mastectomy? I don't know what that means. I'm a little slow over here. If you haven't figured that out.

It's a multi-syllabic word. I'm sorry. That is very, very unpaid. That's the biggest thing. I can't do it. Even the commercials that they have where,

where somebody's chewing, I just, I can't, I can't hear chewing. I can't, oh, it just, it's fingernails on a chalkboard for me. I just absolutely cannot, cannot do it. It's, I don't know what it is. It's always, it's, that's, that's, I was always, I remember my, my dad always chew with your mouth closed. We don't want to see your food. We don't want to hear you smacking. That's just, it's ingrained in me.

I just can't do it. It's one of the ones that, um, I've been able to bury because I have kids and like in the, like you expect adults to fuck, figure it out, dude, like close your mouth, breathe, breathe, calm down and chew your food. And then you get like a three-year-old that just can't do any of that.

And like, you want to get mad, but you're like, you're three. There's nothing I can do. That's one of the ones I've been able to bury. Um, but, um, and, and, and that's a thing. But if to me, it's like, like yeah if you're an adult and you're still but i guess if you were never told then why would you nobody was never told nobody was never told they just choose not to listen it's and um it's the same with people that are randomly loud for no reason um my son now his new thing is to randomly yell yeah and it's so triggering to me i don't understand

it's probably because i'm autistic but like there's like just times where it's just like he does it and i just shake and i'm like oh my god like there's been times i think um my wife and i were at uh a brewery and there was a table across from us that just kept wooing they were just out of nowhere at the top of their lungs yell in this like in this like warehouse setting and i actually was like i had my drink in my hand and they did it and i swear to fucking god i shattered the glass because they triggered me so quickly it just set off whatever goes in my brain i shattered the glass and i looked at her and she's like we have to go now and i was like i think we do and it's just like chewing used to do that for me and it is one of those things where i just wanted to say like i recognize that like oh it's just like

if you don't stop right now i'm gonna take that gum out of your mouth so so do you when you're when your son yells do you ever do you just yell buddy I don't know if he yells yeah I should actually thank you I should because sometimes that'll be here um sometimes I just say stop and just but but I think I'm going to start just going. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. So, so the brewery, the EBC from the BBC, the eponymous brewing company, I love it. It's nice, quiet place where we're college town. So a lot of bars, you know, you just the college scene. I don't want, so this is a, this is a a brewery and so it's pretty quiet and all that and so i love going there but wednesday nights

they do bingo night and it's just i i will not i refuse to go there for that very same rate it's just over the top like no that's nope and and that's just because i'm old but but it's yeah i'm like i want to go there I want to be able to hear. I want to be able to talk, have a conversation, have a beer, and not have somebody yelling over the top or whatever. Yeah, I saw in the notes that you also don't like crowds. So you and I are always going to agree there. And it's one of those, like, the green and gray brewery we go go to they are very particular that they welcome children and they welcome pets so when i go there i expect to hear babies children and dogs

but when i go to a brewery that is marketed towards adults and i have to hear people wooing at the top of their lungs yeah like that's the expectation where you look at them and go like you you're legal drinking age can you shut the fuck up like can you just stop and act like an adult for a minute act like you've been been there before and then when they see that it's bothering people they do it even more and it's like yeah at that point you should be cut off like if i was your bartender i'd cut you off and kick you out like yeah uh but anyway yeah yeah uh speaking of people that don't know when to quit unpaid or underrated liver king uh unpaid unpaid i uh yeah that's funny because i was why is this on air

i kind of i know i know i put something on instagram i was it's funny i was talking i saw it on instagram a very like fuck liver king kind of post a while i was it was just funny because i heard you, it was like all that shock about, about that. Oh, he wasn't natural or whatever. I was like, really, you really thought like, I, and I, it's funny because I had that reaction. I think I posted that. And then for the next three days, that's literally what I heard of everybody like doing the same thing. Like really you're surprised. Yeah. I was like, Oh, come on come on yeah i think people that aren't like in the fitness community as we are and like follow it like just don't really know like

it was it was probably five years ago now because we're fucking old but like when uh thor maybe been more than that but he's still getting he was doing a game of thrones interview and he mentioned that he does steroids and someone was like oh my god a world's strongest man is like an unofficial sport and he does steroids that can't be allowed clearly everyone in fucking world's strongest man is juiced out of their fucking brains and they just they just tried to run with it and i was like well yeah no shit you think brian shaw's natty no well steroids has this this idea and i blame actually baseball and wrestling to be honest with you is that that like, it's, it's so bad. It's negative. It's the worst. It's illegal. It's all of these things. And like, I get that,

like, if you're using it and not telling anybody, yeah, I can see that. Okay. Uh, steroids and wrestling is irrelevant because wrestling is not real. Like they're real athletes. Everything they do is real. It hurts. I actually encourage them to do steroids because what you're doing sucks, dude. Thank you for doing it.

But like in baseball, if you're doing it, not telling anybody and your teammates aren't doing it and you're suddenly beating them and getting paid more that I can see as the problem. But if you're looking at these bodybuilders and these strength athletes and you're like shocked that they're doing steroids, you might be stupid. If you're looking at liver King and thinking, wow, he's eaten testicles and looks that way. Yeah.

That's real. You're still stupid. That's actually one of the only times i have he's actually one of the reasons i hate influencers as much as i do is because when i was coming into the weightlifting realm and my following started growing and i started getting involved in the community and stuff like that i kept seeing him and i'd be like are you like are you kidding me that you think this dude is what he says he is like there's no way he is shredded as a comic book wolverine naturally like it doesn't exist so i agree with your assessment there yeah for sure i yeah i just i can't take it that all the the

fake and there was you know some of that in the strength and conditioning world, there's guys that are just overhyped and over it. I'm not saying using steroids, but just the, just the, the fake influence. I don't know. I started following the influencers in the wild. I love that. That was, I brought that one up last week. I think you brought that up. I think it was a couple of weeks ago as I started following that. I think you did bring it up last week too. It's so fun. And yeah, that's

how I just... There's so much of that just fake. I just can't take it. Well, you can spot a grifter. I'm in sales. I'm in sales, and I pride myself on not doing that so I can literally spot a grifter from a mile away.

But there's so many people that can't, that don't. And people that just love the height BS, you know, just people that are selling BS and they're like, no, this guy's great. It's like, no, how do you not see it? Yeah. And they'll get mad at you for pointing it out. It's like, no, how do you not see it? Yeah. And they'll get mad at you for pointing it out. I see it. I see it in my industry all the time. Somebody will come to me and they'll go, this guy says he can get me this deal.

And I'll look right at him and go, no, they can't. And, and, and I'm happy they said they can. But like, I've been in this industry for 10 years. You aren't eligible for that. You won't get that. And they'll go, yeah, watch. And then they'll come back and go yeah they couldn't get that and i just go i know i know i know i've been watching this forever but but you're the mean one because you told them the truth yeah and that's what yeah again i you maintain i will be honest and have a longer term career than being dishonest and having a short term career.

You might make more in the short term, but I'll make more in the long term by doing what I do. Well, and you're doing it right. That's me. Be honest, be real. Now I'm in the sales industry too, but I'm going to be honest. I'm going, be real. I'm, you know, now I'm in the sales industry, but too, but, but I'm, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to, I'm going to be real. I'm going to under promise and over deliver. And it's just, I'm going to be real.

I'm not going to blow smoke at you. So. All right, Keith, can you hit us with an ad? Yeah, I was just, I was, I was writing a segue in there while we guys were talking about deals and all that. So to save on 10% on your barbell Rescue, that is the barbell brush. If you're listening to this, you probably already heard Tanner talk about the one that he bought.

And he actually used our codes. Really appreciate that. Code unpaid. So quick little ditty from them. We got typed up here. Kim finally got me an ad read for us to use. So here it goes. At Barbell Rescue,

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American-made product. Well, not necessarily American-made, but it's an American company. You know, it is an imported product because it's American-designed. There you go. So, but Kim is a good guy. So, you know, we did get another little couple bucks in the thing. I don't know if this will ever turn into money for us because I don't even know what the minimum payout is. But I think I've got like $10 in the queue, but I think it's a $50 minimum.

So, unless we sell a whole bunch more of these, you know, there won't be any sticker funds just yet. So keep on using it guys. And I just want to say, I think you passed unpaid and underrated. Sweet. Appreciate it. So we will air this on the Instagram bio. Sweet.

Yeah. What some of you haven't noticed is that was my third trip to the washroom. So we mentioned earlier about my limiting alcohol when you go from drinking a lot to not drinking a lot but maintaining your regular

hydration rate your body gets fucking mad so yeah like I'm gonna have to start packing a catheter which is Keith's favorite thing for these oh hey it when you get to be my age it doesn't matter you're just uh it doesn't matter drinking not drinking it's uh it's a lot of trips to the bathroom do you want to disclose your age

or do you want to be ambiguous about it because i'm curious i clearly i don't think you were at all as uh Scantz because I think we talked about that in the Discord. I am the poor man Scantz. I'm not quite as old. I'm not quite as strong. I'm not quite as good looking. Scantz adjacent.

I'm Scantz adjacent. That's it. I'm 15 degrees off of cool. But I think with the conversion rate, US to Canadian, I actually haven't beat. So I will be at the Lift Hard, Live Easy 2, part due. I will be 50 at that event. I was going to say, interestingly, I was going to say say right now there's no way you're over 50 yeah 49 so that was fun when you i i really think it is your beard too because your head

you know your beard is for people not i mean you know mo or yeah nate uh his beard is completely white like it's a santa beard i mean maybe your mustache is a little bit of uh not white in it but your head your your head hair is a little more gray and a little i don't know what's that burden you just there's so there's a little bit of black in there ish black but uh yeah your but your beard is completely white but when i met you when we all met you at the lift you know in july i you know you were pretty clean shave or maybe had some scrub or something so like yeah your beard your i do agree with your wife Your beard puts 15 years on your face immediately. Yeah, for sure. It definitely does. I actually, I wore a goatee for, oh man, 10, 12 years, but that's why I shaved it. I actually, so I had the goatee and it went gray or white right here. So I actually had a football coach was walking up to me the one time and he started laughing.

He's like, oh, my gosh. And he thought I had a Fu Manchu because the white, he couldn't see it. He was laughing. It was so it was just so white here. And so it's like, yeah, I've I definitely look younger when I'm when I've shaved it. So we'll see how long it lasts. Big Jen's been telling me to keep it. So we'll we'll. So we'll see how long it lasts. Yeah. Big Jen's been telling me to keep it. So we'll,

we'll see. We'll see how long it lasts. Big, big friend of the podcast. Yes. Yeah. Well, Nate,

we are at that time. What do you got for us, bud? You got a game. You got some questions. You just want to pick on us, whatever you got, buddy.

Let's do all of the above. No, I don't have a game, but first I would for let's do all of the above no i i don't have a game but first i would for all of all of the loyal listeners i would like to acknowledge just how dangerous this is every week these guys turn over their microphone to the guest and you know risk their their their audience you know their whole, their whole podcast, their whole empire right here. And depending on how it goes, it could lose them tens and tens of followers. And we can't afford that.

Yeah, we can't afford that. So I'm going to use my druthers and maybe push for a brand new segment. and maybe push for a brand new segment. So I personally, I am going to rate the unpaid and underrated podcast from last, which just came out yesterday, actually. So I actually loved the episode with Big David. I don't know which one it was, but I mean, he's an aerospace engineer.

So he clearly is way smarter than, than, than I am. He would have figured out how to get his headphones synced up to his computer and he would have been able to figure out the, his, his screen. So, um, it was a little bit too much, uh, shoe and foot talk for me. I was kind of disappointed there, but then, I mean, when we got the george jones and david allen co references at the end it came in strong at the end so i'm gonna give it uh five shots at jaeger there we go yeah hopefully we can we can start a new segment rating the last week's episode with this week's guest yeah the next offshoot podcast can do that to us. Oh, there we go. There we go. Good luck.

The offshoot of the offshoot. There we go. Thank God. So, yeah, I've got some questions. Not really a game. I think maybe a serious, maybe a silly, maybe strength or psychology, somewhere in there kind of following the S theme. So, um, let's go, let's go serious. Um, let's see which one,

what is something, what's something unusual or unique about you? So you brought up that I, that I was born in a log cabin and, um, I know I'm not quite that old. So, but born in a log cabin. And I know I'm not quite that old. So, but living in a log cabin where you're a little unusual for somebody alive today. So something unusual or unique about you that maybe the crew would not know. So, you know, obviously not anything

that you don't want to share, but something off the wall that might not, that we wouldn't necessarily know. I feel like I've overshared so much on this podcast that I don't want to share but something off the wall that might not that we wouldn't necessarily know i feel like i've overshared so much on this podcast that i don't know what i i'm i'm drawing a blank on like on like shit that i haven't shared yeah to me it's one of those like if i haven't shared it it's on purpose okay well okay that's good i've got i've got backups then um something you love as an adult uh that you never thought you would have as a kid

yeah actually uh no um fitness in general i think i've talked about it before um you know that i had a terrible terrible relationship with fitness, gym teachers, everything. And it wasn't until like 34 or 35. I shared it in an Instagram post last week where Steve, I started going to the gym. And I brought Steve into my gym as a guest. I said, do you know what a deadlift is? He's like, yes, I can show you. And it was like the first time I'd ever touched a barbell with intent.

And look at me now. Internationally placed athlete. That was such a good meme. Oh, that fucking meme was cute. But I mean, I'm not wrong. In middle school and high school, I hated the idea of fitness because I hated the gym teachers. I hated all of it because it was never, it was never that it was, it was just bullies. And, and the gym teacher was a bully for some reason on the side of the bullies. It was just never good. So it just turned me off all of it. And so I love that because you've talked about

that before and you can hear the passion in your voice. So the fact that you've come to this, having had that experience, I had a much different experience when I was younger there, but I got into lifting at like 14 and it completely changed my life. And I've actually, I've loved it. And so to see you find that and see that passion in you is awesome. The fact that it would have been so easy, like, I've loved it. And so to see you find that and see that passion in you is, is awesome. The fact that it would have been so easy to like, I don't know, I'm never doing any of that. And you would have just, you know, swore that off and how it can have such an effect on

your life as you age. Like you talked about, like, I want to be able to, I want to be able to get off the toilet when I'm 60, you know? And like, yeah. So that's, that's really cool. I'm going to say for me, it's like just all these different groups of like clicks of friendships that I have amassed over the last couple of years between the powerlifting community, the home gym enthusiast community, vintage weights community, massonomics community. And they're all completely different groups like there's a there's a little bit of carryover like some of the guys like some of the shit but like

i mean i've got like it's a pretty decent amount of like not carryover like the the masses you know if you will like have no interest in the others like you know people that like to just work out don't give a fuck about home gyms or people that like home gyms might not give a fuck about vintage weightlifting equipment. And I've been able to, like, go and do stuff with these people in person. Like, I've always been antisocial. It's just like once I got out of high school. Oh, hey. Hey.

Well, speaking of. Speaking of little sister, Somebody's coming in. I heard Big Mo was here tonight, so I just wanted to pop in and say hi. I saw behind-the-scenes footage. Big Jake must have been there earlier. So I'm happy to see there's a little surprise crew

showing up there. A little crew meet-up. Alright, I won't disrupt this anymore. I'll see you guys in a couple days. Vegas Island for Friday night. We'll see it.

Thanks, Tanner. Alright, well, there'll be more updates to come. See you, big guys. Later, man. Where was I? Yeah, yeah just three right off there that was awesome yeah i know right and you know so let's go ahead and we have this game we like to play uh no just like you know in general like i once i got out of high school and like those

couple years after high school like uh you know before i moved up here like i just i didn't make friends for like a fucking decade like i just i once i basically i moved from west virginia to new york to be with my wife and got married and all that and i just never really got found like a group of people uh not until i got into the gym and powerlifting and then you know just that having that having a 10-year gap of like really just kind of being a loner and then now having like fucking 50 people i could call if I needed something like it's pretty cool. So that's those circles of friends. Yeah. That's awesome. Because in athletics, you know, I was always around people and everything. It was great. And you, you know, but you're not, you're not friends with the athletes and as coaches,

you're so, you're so busy. I mean, I've got friends there, but you're just like, there's no life. So this, this whole community, like just like you're talking about it's been it's been awesome to to be a part of it so that's that's really cool i i mentioned it a bit before like being a bit of a socialite and you know um being in charity work and all that kind of stuff you're still alone in the crowd all the time right nobody everybody sees you but nobody sees you and you know to suddenly here we are 200 people a week are listening to the bullshit that i spew into this microphone and and react to it and you are making memes about me and like like it's just yeah that's a completely different perspective so that's a good call on

that one keith thank you and tanner's jumping on our podcast yes yes my part b to that would just be podcasting like fucking podcasting is amazing i love being on pod like it's so much work and it's such a pain in the ass but like i always like i think we literally say it every week like i was fucking dreading this all day long. I got fucking two hours, literally two or three hours of sleep at work. Fucking 10 hour day. I'm so fucked up on cough syrup right now. Yeah.

Joey, Joey's always got me nervous that he's going to like, just like tell me that a minute before podcast and he can't do it. And then I got to get it. I'm like, I'm like, I'm still here, obviously. And having fun still here, obviously.

And having fun. Oh, you need to, have you ever seen Dennis Leary? Um, no cure for cancer. Yes. Before the NyQuil.

Actually fun story. I took NyQuil for the first time in my life last night. Um, fucking gives me bad dreams. So, uh, everything actually quitting alcohol gives you bad dreams but um so i've never done that cool before because i'm always just afraid i'm going to sleep through something important but i'm sick my son is sick my wife is sick and my daughter is sick so i'm like fuck it i'm doing the NyQuil. Whatever happens, happens. Me and my son,

because he came and slept with me in the bedroom. We slept all night. But I guess at like 7.30 or so, he woke up. He said, dad, dad, can I have some water? And I vaguely remember going, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I got up and got him some water and i said you know what it's a good time for you to go sit on the potty and get some peas out and he fought me a little bit and then i went back to sleep and then i guess like an hour later i was just i woke up and i was having my coffee morgan goes to the fridge and she goes why is there an empty glass in the fridge and i'm like i don't know you tell me she's like no literally there's a just an empty glass and she hands it to me and i went was the water pitcher on the counter she's like

first time i've taken nyquil and then so tonight i even told my boss i was like yeah the conference call tomorrow i'm probably not going to be on it. I'm taking NyQuil again tonight to get over whatever, because I have a meet in three days. I can't be fucking sick. Like, so. Yeah. Cool.

Cool. Okay. Well, keeping that, keeping that in mind that you got to really, you got to meet and Big Keith's got to get a flight. Let's keep it rolling. You got to meet and Big Keith's got to get a flight. Let's keep it rolling. Let's so psychology, not really starting with an S, but we'll go with it. Sounds like it.

What's your number? So we talked about when I was working with the athletes kind of, you know, pregame, what's your, what's your, when you're getting, getting hyped up for the, for the event, not, not necessarily in the weight room for them, but for the competition, kind of a one through 10 and everybody kind of personalities are a little different. So, so what's your number? You got the, you know, you got the over the top yeller scream or whatever. So for you guys, for your meat, big Joey on, on, on Saturday, like, are you that 10 that I'm ranting and raving and I'm, I'm hooting and hollering? Are you that, that, uh, five that's just sitting there calm and, and going there? Where, where's your ideal

where you're going to perform the best you're, you're hyped up, you're ready to go, but you're not, you're not out of control or over the top. If I have to go from past events, I'm, I'm a four or a five. In fact, Steve was my handler at my last meet and he's going to be, I'm going to, we're going to handle each other at this next one. And he specifically said, you're too lazy on your warmups. You're not taking it serious enough during your warmup sets. Interestingly, it turns out fine.

I don't need a ton of warmup. But like my main panic is that I'm not going to get warmups. So then that's what he was like. You got to relax, dude. Like people are going to let you in. It's fine. So I'm definitely not a screamer i think um at my last meet actually robin power daddy uh he's one of the handlers at the gym that i'm doing my meet at um on the live stream commented several times about how calmly I put down the weights during my deadlifts because everybody else just slams them down or drops them and I was like no man

respect the respect the bar respect the platform and respect the gym you put them down nicely and then you look at your lights so yeah I'm easily a three or four like i also even don't i don't have height music and i don't know if you've ever watched my deadlifts i meditate before every deadlift i stare into space and i breathe deep and then i lift i don't have like a slap my back scream stare at my hands like keith does and do the the twirly hands things i don't do those things i literally just stand there with fingers yeah i just stand there with my hands down and i stare at the sky morgan jokes that i'm worshiping the old gods for a second but like no i just like calm and then you lift and then you put it down and you check your lights so yeah i'm definitely

like a three or four, maybe a five. If somebody was like yelling in my face, hyping me up, I'd match that. But I don't need that. Yeah. How about you, Big Keith? Oh, because I got like three different iterations of that, I guess. So like in a meet specifically, I don't know, warming up, I'm like a seven and a half on the platform, like an eight, maybe. Um, and then in my, in my personal gym, if I'm alone, some personal gym, I'm probably

less than the meat, but it depends because sometimes I might get a little more amped up. It all depends. If I have like fucking 15 people over and I'm going for a PR, I'm going to, I'm going to have my fucking, a lot of me, like like i how loud my stereo is a lot of time is indicative of how heavy of uh how important that lift is to me uh and i can only really do if the wife's home i try not to crank it too loud but if i know she's not there i'll fucking turn the bass to 10 and i'll fucking turn because i can i can turn the uh the tablet volume like all the way up and the stereo all the way up and it's just like it's obnoxious loud but only keep it there for like you know less than a minute uh but that's like i use i all the way up. And it's just like, it's obnoxious loud, but only keep it there for like, you know, less than a minute.

But that's like, I use, I use the, the turning my music up is like my biggest kind of like when I'm at the house, like now I know it's game time. It's like, I'm like Stallone turning my hat backwards when the fucking music goes up.

But I'm, I don't know. I'm really, when I'm in a public gym is probably when I'm, I'm like a six and a public five to a six in a public gym. Cause no one wants to be the asshole in the public gym. Just making us, uh,

yeah. Seven or eight at home and seven and a half to eight and a half in the meet maybe. Yeah. So I would probably be, I would say mine's a five, six. I go like,

uh, more, more like Joey. I would say like, I, I go, I call it going internal or going dark. And I, I, I internally focus and I don't do a lot of yelling or whatever and kind of go through the process, do it. I know that first meet that I did, you know, one of the other, other, other guys, the other podcast host that lives in Crew Falls was down there.

And he, he said something after the fact, he's like, it's nice to see somebody that knows what they're doing just go up and do it i was like that was my first meet but obviously i've done the olympic meets but i just went on and i made sure i was following the rules so i got it right and i just like there's not a lot of hype or like you say dropping the bar or anything like that um but in i've i've noticed like in my videos in my, my home gym and like, I get a good weight, I'll say like, let's go or something, you know, just something like that at the end or whatever. But, uh, cool story. The, the last Olympic meet I did a year and a year ago, there was a guy there that was, Oh, it was 74 plus so i think he was actually in his 80s he did his first olympic meet in 1966 and he was at the chalk bucket going to the going to the deal and he's just

walking up he's chalking up his hands he's going let's go man and i looked around i thought he was talking to me and then um no it was it was really Cause it was just, he was hyped up, even though he was, you know, 75, 80 years old, but he was, he was competing and he had that intensity, but it wasn't that yelling, screaming, whatever. And I think that's a big thing. Just find out what's, what's your number. That's what we always talk to our athletes about. Cause some athletes are over the top yelling, screaming and others are just sitting there and finding what works.

And everything has a place, right? When me and Steve were in my basement gym doing the dinnies, right? And we just kind of were pushing each other on those. I let out a full on scream. I'd never, ever dinnied. I think it was like 200 and something pounds each hand. And I let out a capicolic like, fuck yeah, because like I've never done that before. But at a meet, I think it's just so otherwise focused that, yeah, interesting.

That's a fun one. Well, and I think it's different after you've completed it. There's a difference there, too. I kind of think really that number beforehand, the hype. Big Keith, your like deadlift setup, but you know, there's stuff, there's psychology about making yourself. Oh yeah. I can't, I can't, I can't not do that. Like I absolutely, I would have a panic attack if I didn't do, but there's actually, yeah, there's actual psychology of making yourself

bigger and that actually helps you too. So the way you do that, like you're making yourself bigger before. So it's actually, yeah, I, you know, I, I like it. So, all right. Um, that's, that's enough serious talk. Let's get, let's get silly. Let's get silly. So, um, big, uh, big Joey, um, our mash, our mashed potatoes, just Irish guacamole. Please elaborate. That's not spicy enough grayson i'm gonna have i'm gonna have lunch with grayson friday yeah uh fuck yeah kinda right like all right so i make my when i make mashed potatoes i make them very differently than anybody else in my family right like my mom makes like whipped mashed potatoes, I make them very differently than anybody else in my family.

Right? Like, my mom makes, like, whipped mashed potatoes. Like, she gets the whipper out and her cream and all that. Yeah, that sounds amazing. Yeah, not me. I leave the skin on. I just take off the eyes. I throw in some onions and some cheese and some sour cream and some milk.

And I make, like, chunky mashed potatoes because I want the nutrients out of that shit. It's like guacamole to me. Yeah, doesn't it? Otherwise it's just whipped avocado and lime juice. I'm just using whipped potatoes and milk. The onions

could be the... I add cayenne to my guacamole when I make guacamole because you need spice otherwise it's i'll just plant trash yep that's really fun i've never considered that however i don't put mashed potatoes on things like guacamole goes on things right like there's no such thing as like well there is until i decide to do it now. There's no such thing as mashed potatoes tacos. However, however,

now that I've brought it up, you can put meatloaf and mashed potatoes in a taco shell and call it whatever you want. I was totally going to say like, I would definitely like, I have, you know, the fact that you're putting meatloaf on a fork and then getting some mashed potatoes on the fork,

like that's, that's dipping. Now, usually I use my mashed potatoes to pick up my corn or peas. Okay. I definitely will use meat. I'll definitely use meat on a fork to

add some potatoes to it. Yeah, this got me thinking. I'm going to lose my Midwest card for not remembering the name of this dish, but the slice of bread and the mashed potatoes and gravy and the roast beef,

that's kind of... It's just a hot sandwich, right? We call that a hot beef sandwich up here. What do we call that? Tiger meat bullshit, probably. But that's kind of squacamole-ish there, putting it on top of the meat as a topping.

Okay. Big Keith. Is peanut butter an ice cream topping? Absolutely. I put so much. Did you, like, research my life? Did you, like like deep dive a facebook from like 20 years ago because absolutely just glitched you're not just glitched a little he

was just like what i uh absolutely i so every time i go to my mother-in-law's for anything uh because we don't we don't keep ice cream in the house like it's just like i would fucking eat it i'm already fucking way obese i don't need to be more obese but uh so i you know i go to my mother-in-law's once a month or something for like a family meal uh and you know they always have that fucking gallon of vanilla ice cream and she's getting out the chocolate and the sprinkles and stuff and she didn't she knows that i mix like i like to put a couple who you know large scoops of peanut butter on it and just mix it all up and kind of make my own little blizzard right there. So absolutely.

There's no world where peanut butter does not belong on ice cream. Never in my life would have said that out loud. That's fantastic. It's the best thing in the world. You're not the only guy sliding into other wives' DMs. Oh, you fucker. You motherfucker. You.

Sneaky bastard. Oh, goddamn. I like it. Creamy or crunchy? I would fucking be a bulimic again if I fucking know. Crunchy peanut butter makes me want to puke at even thinking about it.

No, crunchy peanut butter is me want to puke at even thinking about it no crunchy peanut butter is the most disgusting despicable it's not peanut butter fuck off creamy peanut butter creamy jif peanut butter is the only fully disagree I prefer crunchy peanut butter I'm smooth and creamy and I can't do the crunchy

also I also I need my mash potato. The only good mash potato is a creamy mash potato. I can see why you said that when you made the face earlier. I don't even use a whipper. I just use a stomper.

Is that what they call those? It's not a stomper. Masher. They're just stump potatoes. I just step on my potatoes potatoes it's funny that you brought the brought slide into the wife's dm because there's one thing we forgot to bring up that i really wanted to bring up towards the end of the podcast and that was my wife nate's wife and keith's wife all simultaneously, one after another, choosing,

no, I don't want to support the Unpaid and Underrated podcast. It was so funny. And I said it to my wife, and I was like, how are you all so rude? That was all I just said. That was great. I really enjoyed it. I did have to edit a little bit to get...

There was fucking... Our asshole voyeur listener here literally always responds to my polls like wrong just to be funny and i'm like you fucker i know that's not how you feel why are you doing that like it makes me like i'm to the point that if he keeps doing it i might like block him from viewing our fucking stories because it's so fucking annoying i love you uh but god damn it right it's so annoying you fucking do that but yeah so he like he was he was at the bottom of it so i had to like crop out his fucking face and just that's fine it's it was just funny to have all three of them in a row in a row yeah it was perfect i was like i think that's the best ever you guys talking to each other like do we need to know they colluded they're in their own discord that's good stuff

all right nate anything else i've got i've got just a couple things real quick that i that i don't want to keep it under i moved on i moved on to the near beer so i'm solid all right we're we're just about done so awesome i do i i do want to tell big joey there is value in checking out the back catalog i don't think you want to tell Big Joey, there is value in checking out the back catalog. I don't think you want to go through everything. I'm not telling you you should, but I like to do research just like, just like Big Keith does. So I went back to the Jordan Feigenbaum episode on the other podcast, his first appearance in 308. And he said, so they're trying to explain to him that everybody's big they called him big jordan and he's like oh i'm big and everybody's big here even as and he starts to

get it he jokingly says so you mean there are there are no little bryans here he was prophetic there actually was a little brian so he knew two years before that there was going to be there's going to be a brian so brian no i was like when i heard him say that there's no little brian a year and a half before brian happened stuff i'm like that's that's i so there's there is some value in the back catalog the only other quick thing that i want to bring up um the whipping shitties um deal with the midwest thing that that is what i had it called we had it called was whipping shitties um but funny story just real quick um one of my friend's sister um she went to go tell on her on her brother to her mom and she didn't know what they were

called. And she said, she said, mom, Scott's down in the school parking lot laying hookers. Hell yeah. So I've never heard that one brought up. I don't think it's a big thing, but I want to put that out there that it's also, it also can be called laying hookers. I don't think it should be. That almost makes more sense than whipping a shitty.

Because like a hook, you're making like you're hooking a turn. No, that's not what laying a hooker means, man. I can make a more reference. I can visualize like the actual like I can visualize that words making more sense than whipping a shitty. Yeah, you visualize playing a hooker? I mean, I pay a mortgage. I don't pay hookers. Actually, a fun story

about the whip in shitties thing, and I think I shared it in the Discord when it happened. My mom lives even more in the country than I did. We were driving the one day and there were just kids on the side of the road in like this rural, just like fucking highway selling Girl Guide cookies. And I turned to my wife and I was like, I got cash and I love cookies. Let's go.

So I kind of like U-turn and I go back and I pull in the driveway and I buy two boxes of cookies. And then I kind of was just like, okay, I got to get out of here. And this is like rural Canada, like rural Ontario. And the mother goes, oh, you can actually just like, we've got a roundabout driveway. You can just pull in and whip a shitty. And I was like, oh yeah, I can do that. And I did that but the only reason i even clued in to what she was saying was because of massonomics and i was just

like that's a natural phrase and then morgan was like what's whipping a shitty and i'm like oh that's really funny i only know that because of massonomics that's good stuff. Yeah, that was actually pretty funny. Now, we got to reverse it here for a second because myself, I'm sure Nate, and probably 90% of other listeners don't know what kind of cookies you bought. You don't know what Girl Guide cookies are? I wrote that down. Girl Guide.

Is that a Girl Scout cookie? Yes. Okay. The terminology. Another terminology. It's just one word completely. that a girl scout cooking yes okay that's what i'm gonna say yeah the terminology another terminology order and it's just like one word completely yes they're not up here they're girl guides they're not girl scouts guides do they have to guide you to the guide the old man to the to the park or what or i don't know if i know i'm not in the girl guides but well you guys also you you also write tests right what do you mean uh when you're

at university you write you do you write a test yeah what do you guys do we take a test take a test oh yeah i heard you i heard you say that the other time too the write a test write a test take a test same shit yeah we but in all fairness it's different and and they're all useless almost any almost any scholar that'll tell you most of the time quizzes and tests are useless to your training and and knowledge yes and then when they do that shit where they try and trick you but you're teaching me by trying to trick me anyway yes anyway so i'm gonna let's i'm gonna turn this back on nate one last question what are you looking forward to this weekend bud let's close on what we're looking forward to from the uh yeah i'm i'm looking forward to the uh the lifting at the liberty

barbell just getting to meet to meet everybody in person again. And probably I think like hearing you guys talk about being at Pounders Thursday night and that kind of thing where it's a little bit more intimate or whatever. Like I was trying to do the beef and I'm pretty reserved, you know, initially. So now having met a bunch of you and being on the podcast and feeling like, you know, no people haven't listened to them on the podcast. I'm looking forward to the, to the lift. I'm, I'm going to be a week out from, uh, from a competition too. So I'm probably not going to be doing any big deadlifts or anything like that. Um, hit the little hit, hit a little bit, but looking forward to that. And then the, uh, the, the chicken bake. So I'm also trying to

lose a little bit of weight. So probably not going to eat a whole lot of breakfast, but I'm definitely going to hit up the chicken bake. Now, are you coming in Friday, or are you just going to come in Saturday morning and try to get there for the tail end of breakfast? I have my work

Christmas party on Friday night, so I'll just come down. I'm going to plan on being there for breakfast. Uh, just cause I think that'll be a good time to talk, uh, you know, with everybody.

So I'm going to, I'm going to plan on being there for breakfast, but I'll probably already have eaten pound some coffee. Let's say, uh, pop up. That's apparently that's a popular day for work Christmas parties because a friend of the podcast,

big Colty, I believe can't make any Friday festivities because he had mentioned that he has to do a last minute work christmas party so that's good stuff so yeah uh we'll be there this weekend joey will be at a meet with big steve so we got all kinds of crew activities going on this weekend by the time you're listening to this it all happened and uh we'll you know be able to dive into it the following week oh and by the way when you guys see big matt this weekend um just just try and get him on this podcast like i'm sick of him dodging us just remind him and if you don't see him like i'm just gonna assume it means he never wants to be on the podcast so just like

if he's there kind of nudge him you know we've been trying to get you on buddy um but if he if he's not there yeah we'll take the hint man we'll take the hint, man. We'll take the hint. Yeah, I don't expect to see him there. I think he's afraid of us at this point. I don't know. I don't know why. We've been nothing but courteous and gracious to him, and I thought we were friends. I mean, I chauffeured his ass around fucking Aberdeen all last summer, so I don't get it.

I guess. I don't know. I don't know what his beef with us is. Oh. His beef stick. Yeah. Yeah. It's not very big. Probably.

Um, awesome. Do you guys want to bring us in for a landing? I got to fucking take a piss and go to bed. Okay. Give us 30 seconds. Yeah. Come and find us.

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this is me doing my deadlift setup so if we get rid of it i quit the podcast i do this for you i do this for you all right find it guys find me on instagram uh and nowhere else all right i'm big keith you can find me on instagram keith honeycutt 73 go follow my orange gym the no wine cellar where are they going to find you big nate i'm at mo strength 50 on instagram i think i'm big mo strength on on the discord and that's about all i've but all i've got i appreciate it guys awesome this has been a great episode i think we all had a good time and we will see you next tuesday