Unpaid And Underrated - 034 : Crü Curious

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Steve. They dive right into great topics like the difference between hop water and wife water, Keiths foray into strongman, cats, the one chip challenge, sleeping in hockey gear, what to do with hot pepper ring hands, and if ketchup is nessesary. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @huksteve (https://www.instagram.com/huksteve/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Steve.

all right everybody welcome back to episode 12 of the unpaid and underrated podcast the podcast about crew for crew and relentlessly mocked on discord by the rest of crew i am big crew. I am Big Joey. I'm Big Keith. And we are joined by Big Steve this week. Howdy. How we doing, buddy? Oh, not so bad. The best part about Big Steve is I can almost see his house from my house.

I saw according to Big Kevin's map I might call shenanigans on that because you were like two inches away on that little map. Two inches matters. Yeah, that's what she said. I sure hope so. And you were worried you wouldn't fit right in here.

Yeah. All right. I mean, we should dive right in. We should dive right in, eh, guys? Uh-huh. I'm actually excited for what are we drinking because I got a new one this week. I went to Trader Joe's, uh, on the way home. They had, they have that really good rosemary chicken that I just wanted it cause I need something quick and easy for lunch. Uh, and I was like, Ooh, let me check out what they have for carbonated, uh, water. And I got like five or six new ones over to try over the next month tonight. Oh shit. Not stuck in my koozie. My Masonomic strong and silly koozie. Okay, so the purple koozie we need to talk about. Okay. Yeah, because that thing's tighter than

Scrooge's pockets. That thing is insane. I can't get my cans out without smashing them. Yeah, but just think of the insulation properties though. True. But I got a lime hop water. Is this actually made of hops? Is this because we know Big Keith still doesn't know what hops is.

So is it the same thing or is hop water the brand? No, it's going to be hops. So it's going to taste like, it's going to taste like. It's going to be gross, huh? Yeah, it's not. I don't see that being good. Bottoms up. Lime hop water, Big Keith.

Grab it in you. It's interesting. It tastes like a it's like a fucking uh poland springs water uh i mean i've had worse it almost tastes like a beer i guess that's the gist because it is that's what hops is and it's like a lime beer i guess i don't know it's different it doesn't i mean it doesn't taste like a beer but it doesn't taste like it's not a La Croix or a bubbly. It's different. I've definitely had worse, though. It's a

5 on the glaze scale, maybe. Out of 5? Out of 10. 5 out of 10 on the glaze scale. If we're on J.D. Powers or Apple Pie Pods, it's probably a 2.5. I'll swing by Trader Joe's on my next trip to New York.

Cause it's the best place to go besides target and the liquor store. Now I'm, I'm drinking the Keith's like, I'm not going to lie. I'm just drinking the keys. I have some PC, some PC sparkling water here to celebrate Steve being here. And Steve,

what you got? Well, I've got myself a LaCroix hibiscus yeah and uh it's actually quite nice and uh for uh plan b when that goes uh when that goes dry we got ourselves a pc sparkling cola that sparkling cola is top tier like i'll tell you sparkling cola water not just uh you know it's not a pop yeah i do want to want to try that. I don't care what brand it is. I want to try some kind of sparkling water cola. The only ones I've seen are on Amazon, and they're like fucking 30 bucks for like a six-pack or something, and I'm not doing that.

As far as I go, you could do worse than this one. Yeah, I've yet to see anything local that was like the, you know, that type of genre, but I keep my eyes out. Now, the PC, they got their ginger ale, they got their cola, I i've got a root beer and they've got the cranberry ginger ale too then it's all just topped here like it's it's it's next level i think i've never gotten less than a four whenever i send in if i may add something to that though they're topped here when you open them if you leave them for more than an hour they go flat immediately somehow i don't think i can drink sparkling water longer than an hour. Yeah, I don't think I've ever opened one and didn't finish it in like seven minutes.

Yeah, that's going to be left as wife water if I don't drink it. Yeah, they're not for dabblers. You guys know wife water, right? I'm assuming that's just anything you don't drink, Morgan will drink after the fact or she just dump it out like i don't no wife water is the series of unopened sparkling waters or unfinished sparkling waters left all over the house by your wife ah okay yeah that's mine does that she's the worst with that but i i legit just i so i guess i take that back i will drink old sparkling waters but they're hers like the next day you just got to make the you got to make sure she didn't fucking put like her discarded hair in it which i've done a couple times and caught i'm like oh what the fuck

it's it's half full it should not be a hair receptacle at that point but it's helped me a couple times yeah i mean like what's the worst case scenario becomes water okay it's not bad open escalator becomes stairs i mean put in some work yeah it's a good way to put her it's no longer spicy water uh what shirts you guys wearing i'm rocking out one of my new christmas presents uh the ouch everything hurts uh it actually fits now because i got the uh the right size for my broad body so yeah knocking out some 2x shirts i got a plethora of 2x shirts for christmas so i'm kind of stoked about that yeah i'm rocking uh you know the powerlifting blue ribbon shirt today.

Very nice. Also, I went out for a special occasion. I didn't get that one. I didn't love how it fit personally. It had a bigger neck than I was comfortable with. Yeah, it fits a little bit differently than some of the other ones, but I suppose that's been discussed enough. Yeah.

We've talked about the blanks yeah i'm wearing right off the rip i'm actually wearing one from uh deadlifts and i'm dead our friend jenny um it says feral dilf and i thought that was fucking hilarious so and i wore it i wore it pink too just to make sure it bothers the right people i chase you down that's good stuff all right so i wanted to talk about um the crew christmas checklist oh yeah because i think that there was a very um common theme for a lot of us so yes i got a a Masonomic shirt.

I got the strong and silly shirt. Yes, I got the koozie because I forgot to order that when I did my order. Yes, I got barefoot shoes. No, I didn't get any ammonia, but I think, you know, that's always on the list as well. So I was just wondering if you guys got any of the checklisted massonomics crew christmas presents to be fair i don't think i'm overly familiar with the checklist but i did get weights and massonomics clothes so i got that going for me now the massonomics clothes are on the checklist oh yeah i've got uh let's see yeah i've got three three or four shirts i did

get barefoot shoes i didn't know if those I didn't know those were coming or not. She definitely picked up on my hint and did order those. First impressions, they were not as wide as I would like at first, but by the time I got done working out, like an hour later, because my right foot is a solid,

like it's 10 to 15% wider than my left foot. Like no matter what shoe I wear, like my right foot like hurts in that shoe and the left foot's fine so immediately my right foot was like rubbing the sidewalls um but after wearing them for a couple hours the right did seem to break in uh i'm gonna wear it a few more times before i give it my 100 seal of approval but so far so good hey rub it rubbing the sidewalls is my go-to move you just you just uh you know yeah no i was gonna say something about how you can seldom do both of them at the same time usually just hitting one side and then the other side the other side will come on in um yeah i just

thought it was funny that just everybody was like oh i got a mass atomic shirt and barefoot shoes and like three i think three or four of us were all like we all got mass atomic shirts and barefoot shoes and then like three i think three or four of us were all like we all got masonomic shirts and barefoot shoes now i got um so morgan ordered from the blemish pile and i wonder if the blemish is a misprint in size because my eight and a half in my hobie bear and in my uh ursus salmons fit wonderfully but somehow somehow the 8.5 in whatever she got me does not fit at all. Also, I just wonder. Your Salmon ones could just be ultra broken and maybe they'll get better. That's kind of what I'm thinking.

I'm going to pound through these or just demolish them in squats. I'm going to squat one day in these shoes and just pop some shoes. Pop the tape, pop some shoes. I the tape, pop some shoes. Yeah, I got a funny one. I ended up, so I added a few grip attachments

to my Amazon wishlist because I've been people who have been buying me stuff on Amazon for Christmas for years. I've like run out of shit to put on there. So I'm like resorted to like some new stuff. So I was like, well, what's something I can get for the gym that I don't have? It's like, well, a lot of my buddies

are really into grip stuff, but I don't really have any grip training other than my blobs and some grippers. So I was like, let me just get a loading pin and three or four attachments. It's easy enough. It'd be like $100 max. So I think I got three or four different attachments as presents, but then no one got me the loading pin.

So here I've got three attachments. So I ended up getting one off Carp. Carp had a couple extra ones lying around, so I just paid him he's gonna send me one up so i got that coming in the mail so i should be able to do my uh my my grip training next week whenever that shows up so i just got a kick out of that because i kept being like oh yeah this this is gonna go with what's left under the tree and then like i got to my last present and i was like well fuck i still don't have a loading pin what the shit but they didn't know any better it's like that was like i think my my parents got me one of the attachments my wife got me one of the attachments and my in-laws got me

one of the attachments so like everyone i don't think they even knew what the other one what that what the loading pin was but i just thought it was funny i don't even know what a loading pin is like i didn't i have a gym you should you have you have you have the denny stone rings right yeah they're the they're the pieces it's going yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say, then I'll bring my diny rings next time I come. Next time. The first time that me and Steve jump in our cars and head down to your place. Nate said he was only four hours away, so we've got to talk to him. I really do want to do a crew meetup up here.

We'll try to get like six or seven crew to actually come. It won't be hard. We can get Kevin. Probably get Keegan. It won't be hard. We can get kevin probably get um probably get keegan won't be hard we'll get a handful of this um i didn't get any other gym stuff so i have been investigating today i was investigating um which deadlift bar i'm gonna get well i know my work company was nice enough to get me one for christmas yes yeah that's a fun story go ahead because your story goes into mine so go ahead oh okay well i was looking around

around black friday for uh deadlift bars and i saw a canadian company they're a strong arm sport saw the review by uh brandon there and it was pretty good but hey the price is right uh might as well try it out my work has a program too where it's a health and fitness program if you have a gym membership or if you want to buy fitness equipment or whatever you get a certain amount back per year and uh so i bought a bar on black friday and submitted my receipt next week i had uh most of that money back yeah that's pretty dope so i was i was looking at your power bar or the deadlift bar that you got and i was comparing to getting a texas deadlift I'll tell you, the cost is less than $100 difference between the two. Maybe today.

Yeah, no. Yeah, so I definitely messaged Brandon and I said, like, what would you suggest? And he kind of leaned me towards Texas. So I'm probably going to order the Texas deadlift bar. Yeah, I would say at only $100 difference. And you probably could have jumped the Texas deadlift bar. Yeah. I would say at only a hundred bucks difference. And you probably could, if you jumped on that during black Friday,

Texas had a really good sales or they had like 50 or $70 off everything one week. And then another time it was just free shipping. But, but yeah, if you can get that door, if you can get that bar to your house for under 500 bucks, I'd jump on that.

It would be, it would be about over 500. So ordering, ordering the one from a strong arm after shipping and everything is around 500. This cost me 320. So it was a pretty good deal. Yeah. Then I'm getting hosed because it's like three something plus shipping.

After that, it's going to end up being about 495. Yeah. This was around 320 bucks Canadian, which is what? Like $200 in Freedom Bucks? Yep. But I can get the Texas power bar, the Texas deadlift bar for $495. Yeah, all things being equal, including the price, I'd probably go to Texas every day. We can just share.

I'll just bring mine and you bring yours. I dig it. I looked at the Kabuki. Fuck that. Yeah. And same with the Rogue. Same with the Rogue Ohio. F that.

Because that's what my meats always use is the Kabuki. And I ain't got time for that cost. Like that's so much. But I do want a hippie bar. No, Texas would be good. I mean, there definitely is a you can feel the difference between texas and kabuki but is it enough to justify because i don't know what to give the boogie cost you like a thousand dollars to get with all the imports it's about that it's

yeah no i think i paid like 600 when it came out for mine and i probably wouldn't pay a penny more so uh but i mean the deadlift bar is a deadlift bar as long as you don't have uh paul floss's uh rogue ohio deadlift bar which is stiffer than shit. So any other bar than that, you'll be in good shape. I think I just sneezed my eyeballs out. That fucking sucked. Speaking of bar reviews, I know it just came out today, but did either of you get a chance to watch the YouTube video that Tommy and Tanner put out? I did.

They're practically giving that one away. What is that, about $2,000 up here dollars up here oh god yeah twelve hundred uh twelve hundred for us and i'm curious because that so that's coming from like you're not buying that from an american distributor it's literally coming from overseas too so i don't know if you get hurt as bad as we do or is it the same i'm curious because it's not like it's coming to america and then coming to you it should come directly from fucking was it sweden which bar is that the same? I'm curious. It's not like it's coming to America and then coming to you. It should come directly from Sweden. Which bar? Is that the Alico? Yeah, the Alico $1,200 power bar. I'm sure they send it to Australia first so that way the shipping

is twice the price. Doesn't Big Jess have an entire Alico gym in her garage where all the cockheads keep breaking in? I remember hearing about that, but yeah, that was a fun video.

They literally gave me like a minute notice, I think to record it. Well, I think they might've told me a little bit earlier, but then like not really sure what it was going to be. So I knew there were going to be a video, but it was like, I think it was like right after the lifting session,

they had to kind of mentioned it. So that was a very abrupt kind of thing, but I had a good time. I was talking to my wife about it. I was like i think it was like right after the lifting session they had to kind of mentioned it so that was a very abrupt kind of thing but uh i had a good time i was talking about what's talking my wife about it i was like i would not have been comfortable enough doing that recording like even even two years ago or even like last maybe last year like in the last two years or so between like starting my my gyms instagram and going to home gym con and doing a bunch of podcasts with garage gym experiment and everything crew related and the Arnold and lift hardly busy. Like just an, obviously our podcast, like I'm so came out of my shell in the last couple of years. Like if I had to like the thought of being on a YouTube video, like two years ago, I would have just been like, nah, I'm good. But

I don't know. I'm just, I mean, you had me full to look like, you know what you're talking about? Well, we're, we Well, we're trying. Bake it till you make it, right? The joke is he does that every week. And then he puts it on the glaze search. Which the updated Nate is ever evolving that damn thing. I'm worried about Nate at this rate because like he started the thing and then it was like, oh, I made a shortcut for Apple. Oh, now I have a domain.

Oh, now you can share the rating and it'll include. And like every day he's like giving us updates. I'm like, dude, are you okay? Are you creating a monster over there? Like you're so focused on this glaze search trying to take over trying to take on google like are you still are you still eating do you do i need to like send somebody down to check on you yeah i i kind of asked him how much time he invested and he said outside of like the initial you know writing everything it hasn't been too

bad it's just been little tweaks he's able to do very quick from his phone i guess so how many people does the pizza need to feed yeah and i have one question though keith about your glaze ratings oh man uh do you copy and paste all of them what do you mean so a lot of the ratings i see are the same your fives are dumb mad i wasted my time you're sick oh no no no that mad i watched it i i'm not typing those out at all that was a one time nate basically asked me to to put into text a correlation on my one to ten scale i'm not i'm not i am not typing those out that was just like i had like i spent five minutes typing that up max so i had like minimal to no investment in that and it was just off i had like i spent five minutes typing that up max so i had like minimal to no

investment in that and it was just off the top of my head so no no i i that's why they're generic because he's it's just literally a five is always going to say the same sentence a six is always going to say the same sentence so i i was wondering because i thought that that would be really silly for you to like have like a copy and pasted thing to do no okay good all right yeah that makes way more except first i was just like i was like i'm gonna rip on him for this but i'm gonna ask him first in public that's funny yeah you're good no that's funny uh no but he got a kick out of that and i was just trying to like how can i like put in how can i because really it's all fucking fake it's like

you know it is it's all bullshit but like how do you correlate what a five and a six and a seven is so like and you have to have it just be a a little bit different and like show progression and regression depending on which way you're going so i thought it was kind of funny and i don't know how to make it really put it in the layman's terms better than i did all right um so you added two things here. Yeah. I want to hear about your strongman update. So I did sign up for the competition. That is literally like the 6th of January. So I'm going on like a 10 day prep.

I'm not even really doing a prep. I'm just going to do a couple of event days and that's it. And then go into it. So last Friday I went to the local Strongman gym. Fucking $20 day pass. I thought that was a little outrageous. But I mean, I guess I'm paying $10 to go to a regular gym for a day pass. So $20 for a specialized powerlifting slash Strongman gym.

I guess it's normal. I just was like, damn. Yeah. Those are for insurance reasons. All right. So I live near Pure muscle and fitness and most um most people should know steve do you know what pure muscle is right yeah yeah yeah their their weekly pass is something like 200 jesus it's funny that you're like 20 bucks and i was like

i would fucking beg for a 20 day pass to half the gyms around here. I guess that just kind of dates me. Like, I mean, I go on, well, the five or six times I use a public gym is when I'm on the road for work. And it's usually 10. I mean, I maybe paid 20 bucks once, but nonetheless, it was still, it was worth it just getting in there. So I did some actual training, some log training. I was able to lift the comp weight on the log easy.

I could not clean the comp weight on the axle. It was only 165, but I was like at 145, I couldn't get it. I think I was able to get 145, but at 155, I couldn't get it. Or maybe I could only get 135, I don't know. But that was literally like day one with like minimal instruction. Like Chris, who's done it for like two months giving me some direction and then a couple guys kind of walking by giving me their two cents but like everyone's directions contradicted the other person's directions and i'm like very analytical

and trying to process all the information and i'm like well he said this but then they said that i'm like what the fuck so so you know you know who to reach out to scantz gave me scantz scantz and scott reach out to big hot yeah but i was able Scantz and Scott. Reach out to Big Hot. Yeah, but I was able to. Man's throwing sand filled kegs around like they're nothing. But I'm going to do that. That's like 10 days from now or so. As long as I can get at least one rep on everything, I think I'll be happy.

I don't think I'm able to lift the Husafelt. The Husafelt's like 220. And I tried to lift up like 150 and couldn't break the ground with it. But I don't know if it was just form or the fact I was burned out so i don't know if i'm gonna get the husafelt but everything it's like the second one in a uh a back-to-back event so i can at least do the farmer's carries and if i can't get the husafelt i just i just take a scratch in that one yeah i'll play it with the husafelt it's more about mobility than strength like you gotta be able to get it right close to you right yeah you Yeah, you've got to get down and in.

It's probably a metal. It's not a stone. It's a shield. Yeah, and then the stones... I haven't even attempted the stone yet, but that's a meat day problem. Is that Atlas stones? Yeah, it's Atlas stones over the bar. Have you ever lifted an Atlas stone? Once, but it was like 50 pounds pounds and it was like 10 years ago. So basically, no, it won't be there on me day. Go play with those. Don't bust your bicep, man.

Don't don't fuck up your biceps. Also have no. I just brute force and anger and souls and stuff. Yeah, but I'll like unlike like I have an ego and power lifting, but in strong man, I won't have an ego. I'll just be like, I'll take a scratch. Like, I don't care. Like, I already talked to the guy. But they're not that they're not that hard. got megan stone when we were at the massonomics

gym she walked in for her workout and i was like hey congratulations on your meet yesterday can you show me stones and i think actually ruined her entire workout but like she gave all of us i think there was 10 of us there including like grant and everybody uh and she gave us like like lessons on the stones so yeah i might go out tomorrow and train with them there but i have like my i have my lift party tomorrow night but then my buddy was training events in the morning and i was like i don't want to go spend 20 train events to then still have to like do my powerlifting session that night so we'll see but uh i don't know it'll be fun uh a little tidbit after. I basically all these guys are like 10 to 20, 10 to 15 years younger than me.

So they went to fucking play laser tag and go to the bars afterwards. So and I did go out and do the laser tag just because like I wanted to be social. I've never been social locally. And like I literally spend thousands of dollars to go hang out with my friends and go out when I'm in different states. But like I can't figure out a way to like go hang out with friends locally. So I'll i'm in different states but like i can't figure out a way to like go hang out with friends locally so i was like i'll give it a shot so blazer tag was interesting definitely a bunch of fucking young kids and a lot of cardio but it was it was fun it was it's like 30 bucks but it was about a half hour i think about like three six

three minute rounds or something so it was it was worth the price of admission and it was fun and then a bunch of people peeled off and then we went and grabbed something to eat it was worth the price of admission, and it was fun. And then a bunch of people peeled off, and then we went and grabbed something to eat. It was like fucking 10 o'clock. We were getting something to eat. I was like, this is – I should be in bed. What am I doing out eating? And they're like, all right, well – and then they were like – because I was just going to be like, yeah, I'll go to the bar with you guys and just grab a beer and go home. But then they were like, well, we're going to go to this dude's apartment and kill a case and then go to the bar.

And I'm like, I'm not 17 or 18 or 19 like i'm not gonna do that i'm sorry i'm gonna this is where i bid you adieu like i'm going home now you go do your case race at like fucking 11 o'clock at night with a bunch of 25 year olds i'm going to bed so i just thought that was funny but i was still proud of myself for even like going going to the strongman gym going out after the fact going out to like i did like three or four things that like like grumpy old keith typically wouldn't have done so i was patting myself on the back for that it's almost not even bad that it's so short from now because you don't have time to freak out about it you just yeah and do and move on with it basically and then uh the last thing letter can he hit this week anybody get a chance to watch any of that oh yeah already done same

yeah the last season series last series right or the last it's over i teared up a bit because like we that's been our christmas day yeah that's what you're saying ritual right every morning we get up and we watch letter kenny and knowing that i'm not going to do that anymore um but i think they ended it well i was a little nervous at the beginning of the season that they were going to break everybody up but instead they were just like well this is done and that was it it was just done

so I haven't seen it so don't give away too much no I won't give out much more than that what's been insane for the last few days oh yeah but yeah I won't give out any more than that just like it was just a really good ending and still one of the I think the best shows to come out of canada right it's up there you got your letter kenny your corner gas your littlest

hobo you got your all those canadian shows uh the original paw patrol yep then what was the other one there was another canadian show um kung fu Continues. Definitely up there. I'm sure some of you guys will say Trailer Park Boys, but I don't know about that one. About being Canadian or being good? It's Canadian. It just isn't good or not. It has its moments.

It does. J-Rock is always good to watch. We'll still have Shorzy for a few years hopefully hopefully they don't end that for a while i don't think shorezy is a long-term thing i don't think i don't think shorezy can go that long how long can you play well yeah fucking whale shit no show hockey but i think the way they're doing it it's like they're still on the first season or like this i think they're i think they entered it to where they just got into like

the next playoffs or something like yeah it's been a it's it's still like the original storyline just keeps progressing a little bit so i mean i mean they at least have to do to give us one more season to to like give us the ending of the i see that going six i don't see it going 12. oh i'd be happy with three honestly but yeah i'll take whatever they give us because uh but yeah that's that was my I figured I know we're both fans of that show so I figured we'd chat about that for a second since it was kind of pivotal and I actually went to go watch it on Christmas day and I couldn't find it anywhere because it wasn't it doesn't stream on Hulu until the next day and I was like god damn it and I tried watching like a bootleg copy of it but then

like the audio wasn't syncing up and I was like ah fuck it I don't want to like I don't want to force trying to watch it because I really want to enjoy it. I know it's going to be live tomorrow, so I'll just wait the day. It's produced by Bell Media and Bell Media owns Crave here in Canada, which is our kind of version of Hulu.

It was launched 12.01 midnight. It's one of the 36 streaming services that you have to have now to watch eight TV shows. Cable's too expensive. All right. You guys want to rate last week's episode, the prediction

episode? Yeah, yeah. It was a good one. I liked it. I think I ended up listening to that whole thing, if I recall. Yeah, because they didn't have a guest, so they let us listen to that whole episode. I I recall. Yeah, because they didn't have a guest, so they let us listen to that whole episode. So I always enjoy those episodes where I can tag along the whole time. I think I just was playing video games and just had my AirPods in.

So I don't think I had much Discord chat going back and forth, but just being able to consume it right then was always enjoyable. I'm curious of – I think Tommy won, didn't he? Tommy edged out. Yeah, it was like 3Love or something like that. Yeah. And that was – I don't understand that whole tennis thing. I Yeah, it was like 3Love or something like that. Yeah. And that was like, I don't understand that whole tennis thing. I guess I've never watched tennis because that was all new to me. I was like, that's how you keep score with like words and shit?

Like that isn't like outside of like saying all words, Keith. It's one of those things where you have to understand the metric system. Yeah. But as far as the metrics get some, we'll go ahead and give it a five iPod touches out of five iPod touches. What about you, Steve? Did you get a chance to listen?

Yeah, I checked it out. A few of the things that I, you know, a few takeaways from that, not even being American. It looks like I went to 100% of their booth setups in 2023. Oh yeah.

Hey, we did. Nice. It was looking like it's going to line up that we're going to do that again this year, Julian. Unless they surprise us. And yeah, like I said, we've got to pump up those numbers here so we can

out-minute them for sure. And definitely out-guess them. But that being said, I mean, yeah, it was pretty standard shows, which is why I tune in. I mean, all in, I gotta give it five Masonomic touches. Masonomics touches. Hell yeah.

Is that what... I think that's... That is what... Like, I was trying to leave, and Tanner gave me a smack on the ass. I think that was what we're gonna call a Masonomic touch. I mean, what do you think keeps me coming back i thought it was really funny the the kind of quick meme i posted because when tanner was like oh motorhead was wrong about that i was actually driving to work and i was like how fucking dare you question motorhead like that which is it's so irrational but i'm just such a fan of motorhead and lemmy that i thought that

meme i put in the discord was kind of bang on um uh it was actually really interesting is while they were chatting about um i think they said where they're chatting about Dan Bell setting the all time world record. Yeah. I said out loud, no, we need to be talking about Jesus doing it. And then they eventually moved to saying, no,

Jesus is going to do it. And it's again, it's like, they're listening to us all the time now. Right. There's a few times where I was yelling at my TV and then they kind of addressed it a little bit. Yeah.

Right. It's like no you're not jesus doing it and um so yeah i i i don't see jesus beating the all-time world record um but i do think if anybody's gonna do it it's gonna be him well he already holds it so for clarification jesus is the Raw. Raw. Not Raps. Yeah, but he doesn't lift Raps. But I bet he will. Honestly, I think he will end up Deetin Dan's

Rapped record Raw, which would be more crazy. Worth considering, too, is Jesus competes tested. Yeah. It is worth considering. That is definitely not nothing. The dude's a bit of a douche. Yep. I wasn't going to say anything other than That is definitely not nothing. The dude's a bit of a... Douche?

Yep. I wasn't going to say anything other than growl, so you said it out loud, but he's strong as shit. You can't argue that. His younger brother's pretty impressive, too. I think he was repping like 800 or something the other day.

Did you see the meme that they posted of uh kind of uh ipf douche lifter related it was at russ swole he was because he had to close his gym down because the landlord kind of fucked up with his lease or whatever and like he was trying to like raise his rent and russ didn't want to pay it so he had to close down his gym corrupted strength and then someone one of the big meme pages put a picture of Russ in Corrupted Strength, the empty gym with the Halloween spirit store, like photoshopped in. And like, it was just so funny. And I was like, oh, I really got a kick out of it.

And then I didn't get it at first. I don't follow Russ anymore because I just find him kind of cringe. So I had to actually go and like find his page or his gym's page or whatever and be like, oh, they closed like a month ago. So, OK, now I get the meme and now it's really funny and i get it um so speaking of world strongest man and the arnold uh i'm still putting my money on mitch i i think thor is very strong very powerful i think mitch is going to take it because obviously i'm just a fan of mitch hooper so it's you know like met the dude hung out with him like i'm still putting money on that one and even for world's strongest man still put my money on it i actually think thor will do one of those

and back out of the other whichever one is first he's going to do i don't think thor would do world strongest man because he's had issues with them before yeah i don't think Thor would do World's Strongest Man because he's had issues with them before. Yeah, I don't think he's going to World's Strongest Man. I'm pretty sure they meant Arnold's. So even if he does the Arnold, I think Mitch will beat him, but he won't. I don't think Thor will do WSM. So with all that said, five. Five Masonomics Gym iPod Touches. Oh, well, we took the long way to get there today.

I forgot that you, I didn't register that you didn't rate that and we kind of like had like six segues in there before we got back to it. Sometimes I have to pretend I know what I'm talking about in the world of strength because like I don't necessarily know who everybody is, but when I do know I kind of know things.

I mean, I kind of took the express route so it evens out. So an update on the hops like it wasn't bad, like it kind of grew on me. So it evens out. So an update on the hops. It wasn't bad. Like it kind of grew on me. It didn't get worse. You know, sometimes like the drink just doesn't like, I don't know, like it progressively just gets like shittier tasting or whatever. Like this was it was pretty decent.

I don't know. I'll raise my I'm going to go and raise it up to three iPod touches. I find that hops water tastes like non-alcoholic beer which i'm i'm progressively getting into you know for obvious reasons so i don't like have an issue with it i just think the idea of lime and hops because hops is already way too citrusy to add like this different citrus but then again you add beer to corona you add lime to corona right yeah i don't remember if i got the plain hops that that's if I don't think I did because I think it was made by a different company.

It was like these two or whatever. I got two hop ones that were flavored and there was one that looked like it was just plain water with hops, but it was a different brand. I might end up trying that so I have a better understanding of what the fuck hops actually taste like. Not like hops with flavor.

No, I'm telling you, fart on a grapefruit and then put that grapefruit in your mouth and you know what hops taste like. Maybe I'll pass on that then. I'm just trying the other one. All right. Steve, do you have an ad read for us this week?

Kind of. I'd like to take this on a little bit of a tangent, if you don't mind. Basically, just explain why Masonomics is important to me and why I'm a fan for the long haul. I would love that.

A lot of it starts with last year at the Arnold. First time meeting the guys in person. They were super cool. They treat you like a friend that you've always had even though it was the first time meeting the guys in person and uh they were like super cool to treat you like a friend that you've always had even though it was the first time meeting them and that was the first time i ever bought any clothing from them and then uh you know a few months later you know tainer's having me as a guest at his house like you know we're over there eating pizza having having a cigar drinking beers and having a good time and you know it we're over there eating pizza, having a cigar, drinking beers, and having a good time.

And, you know, it wasn't some big expensive, like, meet and greet. It was $10 to one of the best powerlifting events I've ever been to. And it's like, the entire weekend was awesome. And it's like, you know, you want to talk about, like, supporting local. I mean, maybe they're not quite local to me, and maybe they're latitudinally adjacent, if that counts for anything. But being a smaller business and being just a couple of guys who are actually, like, down to earth and cool and, you know, don't expect a whole lot in return, just be kind of like how they are. And, you know, there's a reason why a lot of my non-work wardrobe is by them,

including my weightlifting singlet and my daughter's weightlifting singlet now, which is pretty cool because she's getting into it pretty heavy. And they're just, I don't know, they're just the kind of people that I want to support and that I like to be around. And when it comes to the crew, too, like I'm not overly active in the Discord, but it's kind of like the group of people that I didn't really know that i needed yeah that's how i would word that too man that's how i would say that too as silly as it says and it sounds like it's over the top but it's like even just going to that event last year and just hanging out with those people and being a part of the live tired live easy classic it's like hell this year now i'm in it like it's got me to turn my life around pretty big because i was getting pretty out of shape and I was giving me a reason to train every day and have a focus and, you know,

it was making a lot of differences in all of my life, not just in, in that. So that's why I think that they are pretty awesome and worth supporting. Oh yeah, man. You couldn't have said any better. That was well done. You didn't have anything to be nervous about that was very well put yeah yeah massnomics.com slash join obviously if you're listening to this you already know that um but yeah i i can't say anything different than that right morgan said to me specifically she's so happy i found my people because there was a time where like i was very opposite i cared about things and i was passionate about the world around me and then

one day i just said i'm tired i can't do this anymore and i kind of withdrew and then i found the massonomics discord crew and it allowed me to kind of be passionate about something and have fun without the stress and the constant pressure of caring about the world around me where i could just care about the people around me yeah like it's obviously important to be aware of what's going on in the world and everything else but it's like at the same time you can't make that your whole identity it's like finding people who are like you and just enjoy life. Absolutely. The only thing I will counter or contradict is Steve's. Here we go. Where they said they don't expect very much from us.

I'm like, I mean, $3 a month. They do expect, but that's a, that's a small drop in the bucket for all we get out of it. I just wanted to, you know,

bust their chops on that a little bit, but I'm glad, I'm glad we have the paywall. Hey, I was withholding my $3 the first time I met them. Right. Person was the reason, I was withholding my $3 the first time I met them. Right? The person was the reason why I was like, yeah, you know what?

These are people we're supporting. Yes, sir. Yeah, no, I'm glad there is the paywall, too, because I think Tanner put it well. There's the small paywall just to keep the douchebags out of Discord. Because if Discord was fucking open, if Discord was a thousand plus plus people it would be chaos and not worth being a part of because no one would have a stake in it and it would just be a bunch of people they're like oh it's just like one thing that i do for two minutes a day and i just fuck with people and i'm a troll like that would just ruin the whole thing so i'm glad we have the paywall i'm glad our numbers are where they're at ish i mean i want them to keep growing but like slowly not like if we have like an influx of 200 people.

Like, yeah, if you want the Wild West, that's what the rest of social media is for. And it's interesting because I think that even when we do get some people that do want to fuck around in our discord, it doesn't last very long. They either just like nobody reacts to them. We just kind of ignore them and we just they just go away eventually and charge back Tanner and say everybody in the discord. So I think it's about time to get our guest on the horn. Yeah, let's kick all these looky-loos out and see if we can't get Steve on the horn. There's too many Honda Civics drivers in here. So we're going to kick one of them out.

Hey, Big Steve, is that you? It is. All right. You are live on unpaid and underrated how you feeling today i'm feeling kind of like anxious and nervous and it's just just an absolute honor to be able to finally just get on the horn with you guys well i'm glad to have you buddy certainly on the horn i don't think you know i actually did we talk at all uh lift hard live easy i don't know if we did if we did it was very briefly so i feel like it's the first time i've really got to know you at all yeah i'm kind of a fairly reserved person and same in public so it's like my social media identity and my actual identity are very different okay so from an outsider perspective having both of you here

that's interesting um so steve was still at the time at the arnold at least a little crew adjacent crew curious i think is how you actually coined that phrase and i think i remember posting a picture of you at brothers waiting for the guys to show up looking at like how to join the discord crew or how to join massnomics um and then at the lift hard live easy i still think you were a little kind of nervous and withdrawn because i don't think you were so familiar with everybody as you are now it was kind of odd because it seemed like everybody knew me but i had no idea who most of them were. And that is exactly what the crew is. Because I feel like Joey's mentioned you a thousand times.

Yes, Joey does talk about Steve a lot. It's like, why does anyone care who I am? I'm just a guy. But I guess that's the whole point of being there is you're with a bunch of people who are like you. When you're here, you're big. You're one of the big Steves. Yep. And then also at the Lift Hard live easy uh keith was a dick uh because i don't think you talked to me more than twice for the entire time because you were so like i need to lift and i need to and i need oh the meat yeah like yeah well even the meat and like afterwards probably you're so

focused on things though it's funny that both of you are saying that because like, yeah, no wonder, because neither of you really wanted to talk to anybody. I was hyper focus is extremely accurate. I was hyper focused is exactly how I would describe you. And I think that this year, if you're there and you're lifting, I'm going to be in your fucking way. So, well, I'm nervous because i don't think stephanie's going to make it out this year and she's like my go-to handler and recorder and i'll have my buddy big chris will be out there but like he's he's a goofball he doesn't take it serious hell yeah like it's you're gonna be surrounded by oh you're gonna be surrounded by

me i need a serious person chris oh you're gonna be so serious and we're all gonna be in clown makeup just like I'm trying to think cause like all my buddies doing strong man I don't think any of them

are like they're all gonna be drunk or fucking like not not serious like I don't know who I could get to help handle me

but if there's anybody there that is a that is a serious goose that's doing strong man and wants to give Big Keith a hand you know

I'd appreciate it because I always need a powerlifting friendly handler. Just handle yourself. I will. I'm sure I will. I'm going to be a complete fucking menace because at the last event, I was like trying to help, right? I think I was helping

Tanner and Tommy a bit, but at this event, because I'm lifting, I'm going to be a fucking menace with Bryce in the back. Silliest Goose Award is going to me or Bryce this year. I'm curious if they're going to keep the same awards or if they're going to switch them up. I'm curious about that. I want that fucking belt. We do have a guest.

He's going to be there. I wanted some of his input on that. That's true. I'm going to be fairly neutral. I like to kind of let loose a little bit, like the serious work as far as I'm concerned, takes some takes place in the next room over. And when I get there,

I'd like to actually enjoy myself. That's the spirit. Obviously, like I care enough that I'm going to try to do my best and I'm going to, you know, take it serious. But like in between can't be so serious that you forget to enjoy yourself. Like that's the whole point of going there.

I feel you're not getting, you're not getting any stronger in the warmup room, right? Like you've already done all the work to get to where you are. So the idea that you have to be so focused on and all that kind of stuff to me, it just isn't like I'm already, I've done all the work.

The hard work was the last six weeks. Yeah. You gotta be mentally loose and physically tight, like just ready to rip. That's the spirit. And then we're going to have Lou there. Lou's going to be handing us fireball and beers. And then we're going to stand up. It's going to be awesome.

Just grab it and stand up. What are you so mad about? I'm getting so much anxiety just thinking about that. Don't shit on the platform. Don't shit on the platform don't shit on the platform uh steve do you do you want anybody to find you on social media or discord if anybody is weird enough to want to then i suppose they can find me uh at hug steve on instagram

and you hug steve goalie well that's that's twitter we don't need to bring that one up okay damn it i thought that you were the goalie because there's so many goalie questions for you here on it on i mean i am a goalie and i have a game tomorrow but no i on what or on instagram i think it's just at huck yeah it is i believe yeah because i okay i took me a minute to find you all right yeah now don't go to Twitter, but just delete your Twitter. If you're on Twitter and you're listening to this, just delete Twitter and fucking bail. Like Twitter's a nightmare. It's good for local news and weather.

Yep. And then on Discord, you are impossible to find. Yeah. Cat lady. You got a crazy cat lady. Yeah. That took me a minute to give you a fucking an invite on the link to that one because I was like, what the fuck is his name? i had to screenshot it and send it yeah because i so i found you but i couldn't figure

out how to invite you so it actually took that much work for me to screenshot your thing and be like fucking send it here just understand when it comes to technology i'm pretty incompetent so just anything is going to be difficult you'd think i was more competent you'd think but like it's it's not that i like can't figure it out it's that i don't have the patience to figure it out i know where you got time for that if like if i don't already know yeah all right so what is one piece of massonomics merch you regret missing out on? See, because I was fairly late to the party, there was all kinds of stuff in the early days. Definitely anything, uh, Coleman adjacent, like they, you know, yeah, buddy, like stuff is pretty cool. And, uh, I don't know.

I think that's about it. I've got a lot and I'm pretty happy with it to be honest yeah yeah the yeah buddy one is always a popular question very popular answer maybe the not necessarily mass and ox but it's certainly massonomics related it would be the earth it was just it's kind of a lot for what it is to me like especially being yeah like international and everything is like i just don't like the high tops. I don't like high tops anything. If it's not, like, my Red Wing boots or whatever, like, outdoor or, like, boot stuff, I don't like high top shoes.

And, you know, sorry, honey, she bought me high top shoes for Christmas. She says they look better with my kilt and my shorts because they come up a little higher, which is fair, but high top anything is not my go-to. So I also did not get the Ersonomics. I mean, I'm pretty neutral when it comes to either high or low top, but it's just, you know, if I was going to get a pair of the Barefoot, that definitely would have been the ones I would have wanted. But I don't know.

I waited until I waited waited forever and here we are no no like barefoot sponsor and everything like that also great people they've been oh yeah absolutely um but i mean they're i have other brands that were less expensive and um you know your introduction to barefoot shoes can be, doesn't have to be internationally shipped $150 shoes, you know. And like big barefoot guy, I keep calling myself now, big barefoot guy. I don't want to wear shoes ever again if I don't have to. So I've got some shoes. I've got, in the winter, in the summer, I don't even wear shoes unless I fucking have to.

So, yeah. All right. Well, let's get into some questions. Dive right in. Yeah, let's dive right in. Most of the questions are going to come from me. Sandy sent me a few things. So Big Sandy is Steve's laugh.

Hurry, Jason. Yeah. things so big sandy is uh steve's laugh yeah i think i think some of us will meet her at the lift hard live easy and maybe the arnold definitely the arnold yep uh and my wife for some reason submitted a series of very interesting subjects so for those of you that don't know whenever i talk about the big steve that got me deadlifting, into powerlifting, and back into fitness, that's who we're talking to tonight. So if you guys ever wonder why I'm here, it's because somebody asked me to go do a stupid, stupid obstacle course. I got into the gym to get ready for that obstacle course. Steve showed me how to deadlift. And now I'm here. And then now Steve's here.

Can I jump in on your? Of course you can. So last week you guys were talking about what are some of the most meaningful lifts that you ever witnessed in person. And yeah, one of the ones I can say is maybe it wasn't a thousand pounds, but Joey and I having our deadlift sessions in a silly fit for less gym and yeah, one of the ones I can say is maybe it wasn't a thousand pounds, but you know, Joey and I having our deadlift sessions and, uh,

and that silly fit for less gym there a couple of years ago, that was, that was a big deal because it was the beginning of, well, where we are here now. Yeah. That was, that was my first time doing three plates.

I think it was with you. Oh yeah. It wasn't a lot of weight for either of us, but you know, it led to where we are and it's kind of uh kind of a fun thing yeah and it's more than big bryce can deadlift so you guys are doing pretty good right he pulled 700 a day and i think busted his chops about like uh you know maybe i don't remember what i said but it was something belittling that amount of

weight just to fuck with him why the whole who no do it sumo weight just to fuck with him. Why though? Who no do it sumo, just like completely fuck with him? Yeah. Do it like sumo trap bar deadlifts? Alright. Keith, I put a bunch of these in here. Have you had a chance to review any of them? Yeah, I glanced over at them. It was weird

not having to do a show. You glazed over it? Yeah, I didn't have that many paper towels to clean up so i didn't know how much glazing there was but uh i saw some stuff i like you know i'm excited to hear some answers i'll dive right in i had to take a little recess and go grab some beer i wasn't gonna drink tonight and i was like i don't know i killed that hops pretty quick and kind of got my taste buds flowing so but you grab yourself another uh barley water there. Oh, no, I grabbed two McUltras. Yeah, I saw them.

Once I hit three, it's kind of a mild hangover that feels like shit. So I figure two and some water, I'll be good to go. The other day, I had my first beer in a couple of months. Nice. What did your cats think about that? I hear you're a big cat guy. That's something you you and i definitely have common i'm a big cat fan yeah my uh i have well one big cat and two normal sized cats but uh yeah my uh you know my one cat moose he definitely looks like he lives but you know maybe maybe along the lines of us too likes to live a little easy

too but you know he's got a bit of a punch on him but we try not to give him a hard time about that so you got three cats in one house that's got to be uh we have two and they're they're terror they're they they terrorize it and i find one cat is technically considered a hybrid animal he is they're the three of them are savannah cats and they're absolute lunatics and have the persona of wild cats oh wow so those are like i guess i'm not familiar with what a savannah cat is that like a are they like almost like bobcats or something like they shouldn't be in the house or like what am i missing uh i'm not sure if they're they're actually my one cat would be illegal in your state oh wow so he is part or they're all three of them i guess are

part african serval cat so they are i don't know they're like those are the cats that get like 30 40 pounds and they're actually like oh no that's like they're greatly exaggerated sorry servals can be 30 to 40 pounds but savannah's okay my one cat's like 21 pounds. Is that Moose? Yeah. He's a hell of a cat. He's a unit. Yeah, but he had the patience of Job with my kids. Yeah, no, like they're good.

They're just, you know, when they get the zoomies, they do it right. Six foot zoomies. Excuse me. Just a, just a standing jump to the top of the fridge. And to go with her inch long teeth. Now, have you had any trouble with them getting into your, your stereo,

your speakers, your record player? Cause I know cats would might like to eat the, the foam out of the speakers and shit like that. Nope. They did get into my hockey equipment a little bit, but we avoided too many issues. They just like to kind of nest in there.

Gotcha. But I asked that because it looks like you're, you know, you're seeing me. Others told us that you're pretty much a big audio guy. So again, I still have set up your inner records and all that. Steve's a big audio file for sure. Yeah. Yeah. That was the word I was.

I was like, I know there's a word for that, but I didn't want like it's not out of. It's not fucking koozie. Like I'm going to have to like start fucking dead lifting just to take things out of these purple koozies speaking of jesus i'm this is the one i got off amazon there's like a present it was like 20 because it's orange and it does fit the uh the the skinny cans but i don't like it because it's it's too tall like i go to drink and i have to put my mouth on the fucking koozie lip unless i like really like put my elbow up in the air to like tilt the can so I'm not a big fan of this at the moment

I was like I want to pray Steve for his audio stuff and I'm sorry I interrupted because of this stupid fucking thing so Steve's big audiophile I like music I like it to sound good so

do you have like a gym set up with the music or is it like in your den or your living room yeah so do you have like a gym do you have a like a gym set up with the music or it's like in your your den or your living room or what do you got so i have a dining room gym he's nice are you our first is he our first dining room gym so here's how this came to be about i uh i'm not trying to brag or anything but i want an argument with my wife yeah that didn't happen very often. I'm sure it'll be held against me for the rest of my life. Of course.

But it started out as me suggesting, hey, we've got a pretty large dining room there. Maybe I can take up a little bit of it. And her argument was, well, what are we going to do when we have big family gatherings? To which I replied, I don't know. What are we going to do the other 362 days a year

and uh we now have a gym that is growing substantially nice and uh i think the only way to make it better at this point is going to be to get a bigger house so i'll have to look at that soon yeah i feel that dilemma of oh i've utilized every square inch of this room that i can but uh as for my stereo i mean it's in the living room, but I mean, I can hear it the next room over and my neighbors can hear it. It's going to say in the next house over and in the backyard and in the basement. It's not crazy loud. It's just pretty clear and loud. It's focused.

It's focused. Do you have a short ceiling basement or no grow? Like why the why the dining room and not like a typical location? My house was built in 1900. So I believe my dining room is larger than my basement. It makes sense. Yeah. A lot of,

a lot of basic, unless you have a ranch, your basements are usually not that big. I noticed like in general, when a lot of houses get these fucking like five and a half foot tall ceilings in the basement. And it's a six foot ceiling, but it holds like the furnace, the laundry stuff, water heater and not much else. Gotcha.

So, yeah, dining room it is. Now, did you do anything to reinforce the floors underneath or build a killer deadlift platform? Because I would definitely be pretty nervous about deadlifts and four or five hundred pounds just on my regular floor joist. Yeah. So, I mean, I have it's about an inch and a half thick. nervous about deadlifting four or 500 pounds just on my regular floor joist yeah so i mean i have uh it's about an inch and a half thick it's made with halt with uh stall mats and with uh like sanded maple plywood it's seems to distribute the load fairly well uh today i dropped 445 on it and i didn't die so there you go yeah actually i was a little nervous lifting in your in your living room.

But again, I I set the weights down pretty comfortably. I don't have people over for dinner. I mean, that weighs a lot more than my weights. That's true. That's that's static weight versus a bar. Like, well, I mean, that's why I got the two, like almost an inch and a half thick platform. Yeah, it should be good. Yeah.

How does that work? Because i couldn't imagine training upstairs like what are the other people doing when you're blaring music for two hours lifting weights who cares my wife is hearing impaired so that works out great you can go to sleep she takes her hearing aid out and i get to be as ignorant as i want there you go that's so you're lucky in that matter then of that if that wasn't the case i I think you'd be fucked, buddy. And what do the other people do? Well, ideally, they're lifting with me. There you go.

Yeah, we heard about that. We can get into that now. If you want, you have a, you know, how old is your daughter? She's like, you know, very. 13. Okay, and she's in there deadlifting with you guys and wants to do a meet? Yeah, she's getting there. What she needs is a little bit of dedication for a length of time and right now the biggest thing i'm trying to do is just

i don't mean to hold her back but like just let's let's do this safely and build up the record so that way you don't blow your back out like as a kid no for sure your life over this like there's lots of time to get strong and we'll do it. Is she into sports? Is that why she found interest in it? Or is it like, oh, dad's doing it. I want to hang out with dad kind of thing. She doesn't really do a whole lot of sports. She was doing karate for a bit and she's big into cadets and she's the best shooter in her

core. Now, she was into wrestling for a bit. Or was that Evan? No, it's both of them. they're pro wrestling fans like i brought them to live events but mostly local smaller shows no oh but that's that's how it starts yeah look at me that's how it starts right you know wrestling is is still a spectacle but you got to be strong you got to be in shape and you got to be muscular to do it and so it makes sense that you know that that's the direction that she wants to go

she was with us for the ggc yes yep we got um we got we got some big lifts in with her and then uh you know a couple weeks ago when we were at our meet there at a apex barbell club there she started out in the seats and somehow by the end of the meet she was sitting down the floor right next to the head judge nice he was nice enough to put up with her and you know i think he recognized that like hey this is potentially the next generation let's give him uh something i dig that now what are you doing to to auto regulate you mentioned like you're not letting her are you like you know just being like no you're not lifting more than your body weight or you're having to pull from blocks or you're only going to do a trap bar. A lot of times.

Yeah. Like, so for deadlift, she pulls with a trap bar for the most part. Smart. For squats, we're going to go and we're going to do mostly box squats. So that way you don't get into too much trouble that way. Yep. And then for bench press, I mean, we have spotter arms and. There you go.

Right. Frankly, I'm not worried about benching 300 pounds. So her 50 is probably okay for now. No, I'll build those numbers up. No, I like that. Basically just treat her like she's a, a sub, a injured sub masters and you know, she'll be all right. Pretty much as far as the variations, like that's what I'd like, you know, like box squatting and my knee hurts and pull from blocks and my back hurts like shit like that's what i'd like you know like box squatting my knee hurts and

pull from blocks and my back hurts like shit like that like yeah yeah that's like when you get a new car right like you don't need to neutral drop it when it's brand new like you gotta break it oh god i was everyone else as dumb as i was when they were a kid and like didn't when you're like 16 driving your parents car for the first time you didn't realize that neutral dropping was bad you just thought it was cool and like well automatics don't break that's that's that's what happens to me but i remember like i would neutral drop the fuck out of my mom's car and just smoke the tires and just be like and then like looking back on it now like i'd fucking beat the shit out of a kid if i saw him doing that to my car it was like oh my god well i did those things but at least i did it with my own car and

i remember uh i did it yeah joey's mom yelling at me because i did it outside of his house the one time and then uh the next day i uh had a grocery bag and i was picking up pieces of my transmission so i kind of got one oh yeah yeah my mom is seldom wrong oh absolutely i didn't read it yeah i thought you guys were more like so you guys go way back oh absolutely I thought you guys were more like so you guys are literally like fucking primary school friends and shit not necessarily just dudes that just met in their 30s it goes back

and deep 14, 15, 16 did you actually hit the side walls too? something like that yeah hello Oren oh my son just joined me that was interesting nice he should be asleep um so one thing that it specifically says and one from me is to definitely ask about steve's fitness history um it is it's not a linear progress, obviously. I think, Steve, you've done a lot of things, a lot of sport-related, strength-related, baton-related.

So can you start maybe from the beginning and just tell us how you finally ended up with strength training with me? uh so my not to get too serious goes here but my uh lifting origin story is not one that i've really ever shared i uh and i'm not gonna get into specifics but i just you know as a kid there were some things that i wasn't necessarily uh thrilled about that were happening uh not necessarily my life but just around the world and i was always like you know one day i'm going to be strong enough that you know if i'm in a position that there's going to be something i can do about it and that was kind of like one of those odd little things and you know i kind of once i was old enough i started you know getting a little bit stronger and let's see when i was younger too i was always into different martial arts as well too like karate and a little bit of uh kubudo which is art of ancient weaponry which is pretty karate adjacent how far did you get in that not very far it was just you know i

just dabbled a bit play mostly with a bow and with like tanfas and saias and stuff like that. And I was never really great at that. Like for Gojo Roo Karate, I was second in the country for sparring and third for kata at one point for my age group. But like most things, I kind of became a teenager and became lazy and stopped doing that and picked a lot of things back up once I was a little bit older and a little more mature. picked a lot of things back up once I was a little bit older and a little more mature and then uh you know picked up hockey picked up a lot of weightlifting had no clue what the hell I was doing because you know 20 years ago what were the resources muscular develop magazine which you know what they're doing and they is not necessarily what an 18 year old clean kid should be doing. Yeah. And then, yeah, just a lot of off and on and more often than I'd like to,

to admit, but come on now. Yeah. Yeah. Never, never, never too late to get dedicated again. You know,

it's like anyone that's, you know, fucking their thirties, forties. Like, I mean, all it takes is getting up and going to the gym a couple of times and you kind of build that habit and you're going to just, you know it's like anyone that's you know fucking their 30s 40s like i mean all it takes is getting up going to the gym a couple times and you kind of build that habit and you're gonna just you know

you have to go out of the way to make a conscious decision to break that habit once you've created it so it's not that hard to get back into it and and and i like the the karate thing and all that i knew all of that stuff but like it was definitely worth bringing it up that steve's not like steve didn't discover strength training in his 30s like steve's been doing something off and on since he was a kid and uh you know i've told the story many times that the first time i ever touched a barbell with purpose and intent was steve showing me how to deadlift and it was at the gym in in downtown hamilton at momentum right so oh yeah never mind sorry i was thinking it was at the gym in in downtown hamilton at momentum all right so oh yeah never mind sorry i was thinking it was at fit for less but that was after no so fit for less was the first time you and i had a deadlift party which you are correct was very very changing but for

me personally with that stupid like that had the hydraulic machine because they didn't even have a free bar there i was like can you just show me how to deadlift and you showed me how to deadlift on that stupid bar and that was you know i've told that story many times that that was the first time i deadlifted and then it was like this is forever now this is my whole identity um but was that a smoke machine basically i'm trying to think about a hydraulic i hate this i don't even know how to describe this machine it's almost kind of like uh so if you look at the gym tour they're a liberty barbell they had all those uh like robotic machines yeah those were almost something like that it was kind of like rigged up to like a functional trainer with

a bar but where you could just like kind of lift it was interesting it was resistance but it wasn't like a weight on the bar it was it was weird yeah yeah it did like it it was uh it was pneumatic yeah pneumatic is a good word for it and um like it was completely functional within the racking but it was always always attached to something and like it would be like if you had like two smith machines that you could move the bar back and forth to, I think would be the way to describe that. So in addition to up and down, it can move forward and back. It was like, it was like a three dimensional plane. Yeah.

But it was not conducive to doing eventually what I would want to do. But that's just why I wanted to ask you about like, like some of that background stuff is, you know, it's not like, you know, Joey and Steve lifted together one day and boom, like Steve showed me a lot of things. He's always done this kind of thing. Right. And it's like, so when it comes to like this kind of stuff, when we talk about like, you know, bringing out my daughter and my son's starting to get like a lot of interest in it too, is it's like when I was their age i wish i had their kind of resource that i

can be right now because i've done a lot of things wrong so that's how i know kind of a little bit about how to do things right yeah it's like you know one thing one of my good friends says it's like be the parent you wish you had or whatever like when it comes to certain things and it's like now i have an opportunity like i can't change my past but i can change their future yeah if i can do that, then I did something right. Your kids and my kids are going to be very lucky to have me and you and this, all this access to all these weights and all these gyms and all this stuff that

like, that being said, if they don't care about it, then okay, great. Like we can encourage them, but I'm not forcing them to do anything. Not going to be a trophy parent. i don't think i have to my daughter is a bit of a lunatic

so for christmas i uh she told me i want power lifting gear i want sleeves and like wrist wraps and blah blah i want everything i'm like you need to understand like this is not cheap stuff so yeah if that's what you get understand you're not going to be getting much else so like if this is not cheap stuff. So if that's what you get, understand you're not going to be getting much else. So like, if this is what you really want, make sure you're sure. Nope. That's what I want. Okay. That's awesome.

Let's take some measurements. Yeah, it's pretty fantastic. Um, all right. So moving away from the serious stuff, hopefully. So we've already covered some of this. I got a funny one. Kinda. Fire away.

Go. So now that you've mentioned your wife's uh hearing impairment i'm curious if this you're the way i look at this question changes so your wife says that you mumble a lot so i was gonna you think you mumble a lot or is it her being a little bit hearing impaired and which one is it there? And is there a story about tzatziki sauce? So one thing I would say, I think actually being with my wife has probably helped to clear up my speech a lot.

I was a big time mumbler and just being with her, you kind of can't be. I can't stop. Hold on. I'm going to mute myself. God damn it, Joey. No, I I know I'm coming in with a story after this so no it's definitely helped I mean I don't know if I

necessarily would seek that out but I mean being what that is it's definitely cleared things up a little bit because I would always mumble brutally and I still do occasionally I've been I've been accused of being a mumbler many times in my life Steve and I are both mumblers to be to be honest with you and I think that one of the funniest stories I can recall of Steve and I hope

he's okay telling this is back when cell phones kind of first started and i was with i forget who i was with at the time there was somebody in the room with me i picked up the phone to phone steve about something and i i'm gonna try and directly translate this conversation it went all right click and they ran like the person that was in the room with me was like, are you fucking serious? And then Steve showed up at my house, like ready to go where we were going to go. That's funny. Yeah.

And I, I still remember that to this day that like, you want to talk mumbling, Steve and I have Steve and I can have complete conversations without a single syllable or word being spoken. It's like that twin language where it's like, no, it doesn't,

no one else can understand what is going on, but the twins can speak to each other, kind of. Yeah, my problem is, I think a lot of times, too, is I speak too fast, and things combine into super words. Super words, I do remember the super words. We used to blame the solvent from our old job on the super words. It's like when I fat-thumb text, and I just end up sending Joey something,

like an entire sentence without a space in it. And I go, yeah, I get it. And it just becomes like this like 162 letter word. Yeah, there's definitely a level of communication between us that is mumbling, grumbling, grunts. And yeah, that's a thing. What about Tzatziki? Like, what about the Tzatziki? So, you know, being that I had a bit of a reputation as a mumbler, we're, I was one day with my buddy Andrew, we were at Mohawk College there at the food court. And one of the options was like a place where you could get a chicken wrap.

where you could get a chicken wrap. And apparently the most clear I've ever enunciated anything was when I asked for more tzatziki, please. And Angel was just like, I've never heard anything more clear. Where the hell did that come from? I'm pretty passionate about my tzatziki.

I like my tzatziki. That's funny. I wanted to make sure there was no accidents there. I got my tzatziki. That's funny. I wanted to make sure there was no accidents there. And now Steve also hates eggs. Yeah, I was going to say, you would rate tzatziki higher than eggs, it looks like. At the meet that I did where Steve was my handler before he was my co-lifter, I only ate two hard-boiled eggs the entire day and he actually informed me he had to leave while i ate those hard-boiled eggs so how

knowing that eggs are the best protein and the least offensive taste what's what's with you and eggs why do you hate eggs and is it only eggs like are quail eggs on there or duck eggs or is it just chicken eggs you hate yeah i mean whatever eggs are kind of like rascal george i mean they'll get the job done but what the fuck you doing with that oh i almost made keith spit oh yeah well i love when canadians bash on canadians too that's even better you know sure rascal's great i just wouldn't i have so much but i don't know they can go kick rocks i'm in crunchy snow well don't get too far than that one i got that one coming up later i get a kick out of uh that you saw in the discord the like the grant getting over his

bullshit or back to his old bullshit thing yeah the guy that said that i swear i thought that was omar at first glance and then kick out of that um but then i i made a quick meme about that and we actually got a follow back from grant for the first time on the unpaid podcast page so i was pretty stoked about that oh i'm i'm a little nervous about this no no no she knows so she actually probably has listened to more episodes than me and you so she's pretty familiar with how this goes oh yeah all right uh i'm to read them exactly as she put them, if that's okay. So the first one, smoking meat slash the weird boiling and plasting cooking meat thing, bracket, I know the name, I just can't spell it. Sous vide?

Sous vide. She made sous vide. She was like, fuck that, I'm not, I'm just going to describe it. It's not boiling. she made sous vide she was like fuck that i'm not i'm just going to describe it not boiling good damn it are you gonna join this you can join the smoked meat sous vide discord crew like with matt because he spends hours and hours and hours feeding his family um so like what brush like why just don't send any money for t-shirts. So she wanted to, um, to ask you about that. Like,

why is your passion in there? Why did you make me the best wedding present dinner I've ever had? Uh, I just like really good food, but I'm also cheap. So I had to learn how to make it. And, uh,

growing up too, it's like, you know, I had a single mom who worked a lot and uh you can only eat so much craft dinner and hot dogs before you start to figure out just like yeah i better learn how to cook for myself and it's just something i've always enjoyed steve is my go-to for meat um and when we were married oh yeah yeah you're right you and steve are married steve is my go-to for meat yeah oh god there's so many good clips

that's good that was good um uh you know that's actually in here too so when we got married and i don't know if i've discussed this on the podcast before we got married in secret um you know we didn't invite anybody or anything like that. But when I eventually told Steve, he said, I know you don't need anything material. I think what I want to do is give you some time. So we put a tent in the backyard and Steve made me and my wife dinner while

him and his wife watched my kids. So we could just have a date. And yeah, that was, uh, I think he did ribs that day. No, it was a prime rib.

Yeah. Yeah. That was fantastic. Um, and so that's actually also in here. It was fantastic. Yeah. Morgan wanted to point out those specifically that your groomsman

gift from me how you found out we were married was i delivered you a gift and said sorry i couldn't let you be a part of this but here's a gift and what was that gift well it definitely was uh pretty important in making sure that i would never have an accident ever again with a drink in my gym. And it was a pretty badass drink spotter. Yeah, you and my brother are the reason that I specifically have bought more drink spotters in Canada than anybody else. It was the wrong color, but we won't hold that against Joey. Ah, well. One day. One day we't hold that against Joey. Ah, well. One day.

One day we'll get that other color. That should be, like, a prize for the 2024 Left Easy. Or Left RV. I think we can make that happen. You can paint a drinks bottle. Well, that's true. You can just spray paint it. I think Efrem painted his gold, if I recall.

And a couple other guys painted him red, I think. I'll keep it as is. I like it as is. I wouldn't fuck with it, but I know it's... And I actually think that was your... That was like the first time I gave you... Like you had something Masonomics. Wasn't it? Might have been, because I think that was right before we went to the meet,

which is where I bought my first few articles of clothing. Yep one of them being in tanner's basement the day of the meet because you forgot to pack shirts from whatever call yes yes let's talk about that because they were like oh i'll just get you a shirt tomorrow buddy and he's like no i don't have anything to wear tomorrow can i get a shirt tonight please this is a friday night before the meet that you guys i had like six pairs of like pants which, which is what you need in the middle of a 35 degree... Jesus Christ, it was fucking a thousand degrees. I didn't wear pants once in a

six month radius of that date. Well, I mean, if you needed them, they were there. And that's when you got the all go no show. That's a good shirt. Which was a pretty good choice. I regret not getting that one, to be honest. Fits well. Or that yesterday. show. That's a good shirt. It was a pretty good choice. Actually, I regret not getting

that one, to be honest. It's well. Or that yesterday. All right. Go ahead. What do you have

to say about Joey not knowing how to drive a standard? Oh, fuck. Here we go. I mean, we'll

have our flaws, whatever happens. Has there been any attempt to teach Joey how to drive a standard? Considering to anyone that's not familiar, you should be if you're listening to this, that you guys drove from Hamilton to Aberdeen, you know, and you drove the entire way over like two days, basically. And Joey just sat there. There was a while where I was like, OK, we're going to be going pretty straight. So how about we just switch seats?

I'll let you just, you go. I'll talk you through it. It'll be all right. And then it was just like, we both just had too much anxiety. I was like, you know what? Screw it. I'll just drive. I mean, yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. That would be awkward trying to teach another grown man how to drive stick, I guess, at that point. Because I don't know. Hold on. Hold on. Whoa. It's not like trying to teach someone to play pool on tv like i wasn't gonna be like guiding them at the hips like it would just okay here's what you do that now now

also steve taught me how to drive stand or automatic too okay yep one of the i i had two main drivers it was my dad and steve steve me to a parking lot, put me in the station wagon at the time, right? Yeah, the old escort station wagon. Yep. So no, there's no embarrassment at all about Steve trying to teach me how to drive. What does that mean? He taught me fucking how to drive. 20 years later though, isn't it? Yeah.

Are you a couple years older or was Joey late to getting behind the wheel? One year older and I just had a car early. Gotcha. I got out of our friend group. I was pretty much the only one with a car at 16. Gotcha. Yeah, same. Yeah.

Now, tell the story of the time you came up here to do the one chip challenge. Yeah, I want to hear about that. I saw that break there. saw that like damn it it's just one of these like things yes it is it's the hot chip thing i mean i don't know how much of a story there is there was it was uh november a few years ago we decided that uh joey his brother and i were uh were stupid like-minded idiots and uh, you know, we never shy down from a challenge and, you know, never really shy away from spicy stuff. And I thought, hey, you know what's a terrible idea? Let's get together and bang this out.

And we did. We both, all of us, you know, we ate it pretty good. We all did a pretty good job of not letting it, you know, be known how much we were feeling like we were dying, but we got through it. 15, 20 minutes later is sort of, you know, I was able to see color again and everything was going good. We hung out for a bit and whatever, had a beer, this, that, and everything else. And on the drive home, I nearly crapped myself in the car with my wife.

We had to go to a Tim hortons that's great where i felt like i was being basically you know stabbed by a flux scaler in the back door while i was trying to that's horrible just make it end oh fuck yeah so uh you're basically doing pepto shots after that. Yeah. At the time, the one chip challenge was kind of new, right? And like, nobody was really doing it. And I managed to get my hands on a couple.

I had five in total. So I put it out there to a couple of people. I was like, come up to my house. Like, I'm at a big backyard. Let's go do something stupid

in the backyard. And it was, it was Steve and my brother that showed up. And, uh, actually, speaking of my brother, we should start pushing him to get crew. showed up and, uh, actually speaking to my brother, we should start pushing him to get crew.

Um, and I do have one of those here, by the way, we're going to have to maybe bring it down to geese. No, thank you. I am a pussy when it comes to anything hot. I don't,

I still have one too. You may give me pepper. That's about as spicy as I want anything. Oh Jesus. Yeah. These are 1 million Scovilles. Yeah. My son wants to,

my son wants to do it. I'm just like, uh like this would be hilarious but i don't know yeah well greg wants to do the devil's toe because i bought a bunch of those too now if the one chip challenge is one million scovilles the devil's toe is five but it's not i will tape it it's a sucker that you put in your mouth and you have to hold it as long as you can in your mouth. And the stupid thing about that is that's when your spit starts to attack you. That's exactly what that is. I mean, that's not the hottest thing I've eaten. I don't think I think you were present for the other one, too, Joey.

Yes. Yes. That is when you decided to take a thai chili raw off the plant and so that was it was in ellison's basement and it was on your ceiling yeah i don't know these have just been here since i was a little kid so i went that sounds cool and i ate it and regretted my choices immediately what that was hotter than the one chip challenge by a lot yeah don't oil up my hand i don't know if this is necessarily uh well the show isn't too pg this is not a pg show go ahead oh i i went to the washroom and i still had some

oils on my hand i wanted to hold out my stuff uh they cracked the helmet and it looked like chopped lips down there it was it was uh the most pain i've ever been in in my life yeah i did something similar as a kid like like like four or old. And my grandpa had a bunch of hot peppers for some reason in the backyard. And somehow I got into them and like, went and go take a piss, didn't know any better. And then like, I was like, I remember like, you know, when you have something traumatic, not even traumatic, just, you have something from your childhood that you kind of remember, but you really shouldn't. I think you really remember just people telling you the story. So I think it's more of that. Like I kind of remember the you really shouldn't i think you really remember just people telling you the story so i think it's more of that like i kind of remember the whole thing but yeah

similar to yeah you sound like you were a little bit older i was like under five and touched my pecker you know with the hot peppers all over hot pepper seeds all over it and i think they were like gonna take me to the fucking emergency room because my dick was all like swollen and like red and shit and i was crying to show it off bitch yeah no it was uh that was still traumatic thinking about um no i was i was probably 18 so i was crying to show it off bitch yeah no it was uh that was still traumatic thinking about um no i was i was probably 18 so i was definitely oh jesus better yeah no that's that's that's that's pretty bad i couldn't uh i drank a two liter bottle of rc cola that day that's how bad that hurt like i was able to pound the put back that crap that's funny well if you ever get

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credit for that oh yeah it's well because like i see the opening sometimes but then like no one will stop talking and it's like well i don't want to interrupt but it's like my my perfect segue is now like 30 seconds behind so it's like do i wait for another one or do i just kind of throw it in there and it's just stupid because like now we got to try to knock out some of these ad reads though so mine will show up uh either tomorrow or the next day, actually. It's on the way. I just hope I don't have to pay fucking $800 in customs on that. And don't really know.

That's so weird. You just get an email, basically, what it's going to be extra after the fact. The email is if you're lucky. It's when they show up at the door and knock on the door and go, Hi, give me your credit card or else you can't have your product. That's the one that fucking sucks and you've already paid for it yeah everything is shipped kind of uh right now everything is shipped ground so i don't think i'm gonna have to pay for that one but that's always

the best when you order something on ebay and you get it like two months later and by the way you owe us money yeah yeah the this shirt actually is one of the ones where I paid for the shirts. I paid about $30 in shipping, and then I paid an additional $30 in custom fees to get it. And I'm like, I've now paid more to get it here than I paid for the shirts. Well, now you know you're coming to, like, how does that work, too, when you're coming back across the border? If you have a trunk full of shirts, like, do like do you have to depends how long you've been across so if you're there for typically if i go across for a day trip and i bring back like a couple hundred bucks they won't bother me yeah so when you guys come to the arnold you should like have some you'll either buy a

bunch of shit at the arnold or like have kevin or nate buy a bunch of shit ship to their house and then have them give it to you at the arnold or something or i just put it in my suitcase and it's not like i bought it there i just yeah well yeah no no i'm not saying yeah yeah i'm like you don't have to i'm assuming you're not going to declare it but just like to physically already have it purchased ready to go um anything that you would want from america like you're going to see 20 different guys that can give you a bag of shit at the arnold but then yeah but then you're having to babysit that fucking bag the whole time when when we crossed coming back from the arnold they were like do you have anything to declare and i said oh i bought a couple shirts and some gym equipment

and they're like what kind of gym equipment and i was like oh like some some speedos and pantlets or whatever but i didn't i forgot actually that i had the fucking plates and i was like yeah whatever man go through right but again i was there long enough that i had the fucking plates and i was like yeah whatever man go through right but again i was there long enough that i actually think that would have been fine yeah depending there's there's a table like if you're there for like two days you can get like four hundred dollars worth of stuff if you're there you can get like eight hundred dollars worth of stuff and that's each two that's per person if we have a car with like a couple of people in it or like for instance joey my wife and i will be down there and uh you know so that's three people we could bring back a lot if we wanted to just not really booze or tobacco which okay whatever well even then when i was like i have exactly eight

cans of stone cold steve austin's beer the guy was like okay that's way more than i care about right it really just cares on it depends on on the guy their girl and how much they give a shit right yeah it was like the one day i went to the states there and there was uh was that walmart there was like a cooler i forget what it was it was like a cranberry cooler or something i was like well i kind of want to try this so i put one of them in my trunk and when i cross the border they're like do you have anything to declare? I'm like, well, I have one cooler and or one can of beer basically in the trunk. And they're like, why are you even telling me that?

Because I'm not going to risk my or to ruin my life over one can if I don't. Correct. I wasn't going to smash it in the parking lot before driving home. So we got some we got a question here about some big Tanner wants to know. parking lot before driving home. Yeah, that's a good call. So, we got a question here about some Big Tanner wants to know, and you can kind of segue into your personal experience with this throughout your

hockey career, but who is the best hockey goalie of all time? Best or my favorite? Because there's two choices. Give me both. For my favorite, it's going to be, well, for my favorite it's gonna be uh well for my favorite it's pretty obvious it's gonna be felix plattman so when i play that's just you know he was number 29 that's the number that i wear on my jersey one of my cats is named after him he's felix catvin

and he was just a pretty good goalie for uh my local, the Toronto Maple Leafs, when I was a kid and when I was first becoming aware of who people are and what stats are. That just always stuck with me. It seems like for a lot of people my age, that's a fairly similar story. As for the best goalie, it's got to be Martin Brodeur. Then you've played hockey pretty much your whole life, then I'm guessing, and you're've played hockey like pretty much your whole life then i'm guessing and you're still you're still playing hockey okay no started started as an adult couldn't really afford it as a kid okay so i uh i played one season when i was maybe about 25 and then you know kids happen

and i didn't play again for about 10 years and And about five years ago, a buddy of mine knew that I had equipment. So he's like, hey, we're joining. It's mostly just like a recreational co-ed hockey league for kind of people like us. And we've now been in the same team for like five years and moved up divisions and gotten a little bit more confident. That's cool. But we're just a bunch of hacks out there having fun. It's just an excuse to get together. As

a funny story moment, are you comfortable talking about your most recent co-ed experience with hockey equipment? I don't care. I have no idea what you're talking about, but giddy up. It's when you went home, put on your hockey equipment well steve slept in his hockey equipment that night

he went home and just threw it on and went to bed that's not the entire story but that was uh that's the one we'll tell that was marriage 1.0 so we don't need to go further no No, but that's one of my favorite things because that's actually going to come up later. Not that thing in particular, but that night. But yeah, it's always one of my favorites. I was just like, there's new equipment and it fit pretty good. That wasn't even goalie equipment. That was regular equipment.

I was just like, hey, these uppers look pretty good. And I was like, I was also lifting a lot at the time and i was also hammered drunk so i put them on and put my sweater over top and was thinking man i look pretty buff in this thing and then i wanted to go up and you know show somebody else how buff i looked and they were way less impressed because they were sleeping i wasn't even gonna bring that person up i just like the idea that you put that shit on and went to bed that's really good dummy that's really funny uh you really funny so uh drinking bad kids don't do it yeah i'm doing doing my best to like like in all fairness me and steve have so many so many stories about each other and i'm just trying not to like bring up any of like the the embarrassing or offensive stuff but wearing your hockey equipment to bed

is one of the best things I think I've ever heard. Tanner only asked about hockey equipment. That didn't smell pretty ripe. It was brand new. Okay, there you go. I probably smelled pretty ripe. I was drinking a lot.

Well, basically the opposite of being a drunk guy that puts on the hockey equipment to go try to get lucky uh you just did a powerlifting meet uh pretty happy with your numbers nope but i make a very good before picture nice no it just it gives me a good place to start at least you know was that your first meet yeah okay okay cool so you got a base you have a baseline now the way this kind of goes was last year we were at the lift hard live easy classic and i went yeah this is pretty epic like i need to get my uh act back together because at that point i was kind of built like a bag of milk

and uh he doesn't even know what a bag of milk is he's fucking american whatever a jug of milk either way it was not impressive and so i was just like okay around august you know uh i guess the the signups for the meet that just happened came up joey let me know when we were in the car and signed up for it nice and uh went okay yeah i guess i'm gonna start training now. And then I was like, no, it's been a slow progression. I mean, as you get older, obviously, it doesn't bounce back quite as quick as you'd like it to. But we're moving in the right direction, taking it kind of calm, keeping healthy is the big thing. And then, you know, then the signups came up for the Left Heart Live Easy 2, I mean, 2024. I was like kind of worried about getting a spot and luckily that kind of worked out and it's like nice so it's good to get the first meet under

my belt and uh so i made all my mistakes hopefully or most of them nice uh do you have any uh do you have any goals for the lift hard 2024 uh on the platform or otherwise yeah for squad i'd like to do 450 bench 315 and then deadlift i'd like to hit five but you know what i don't know if i'm gonna do those but i would like to and i'm gonna you know work hard towards reaching those goals there you go and i you'd mentioned so it's not like you lost some weight in the last few months i think was that someone i swear i either saw that in discord or did they mention it on the sister podcast when they were talking about joey's joey's buddy big steve and how he looked a lot different from i did when they saw him at the arnold or both it was on discord yeah i think i i posted it in discord because i posted a picture of myself

from uh the spring versus a picture of myself on the platform and gotcha kind of hard to you know i wouldn't say it's an epic transformation like it's obviously still very much in the process but it's it's like yeah you know what in the last six months we did all right and now we got eight more months to see how far we can take this oh yeah it'll be here before we know it we'll be catching that flight to fucking wherever we're flying into but i mean like obviously it being a little bit out of it and everything i was taking things very slow but i feel like i'm finally starting to kind of hit my stride and make some progress nice so hopefully we can keep it going are you on team juggernaut or are you kind of doing your own thing i'm just kind of raw dog and i don't really jump on uh

juggernaut at some point i kind of been on the fence about it the longer i wait probably the worse it is if i'm gonna i should just try it but yeah i'm saying if you're gonna do it sooner than later but i mean not yeah if you're content with your own thing you know keep doing that but you know what do we got we're like 18 whatever 20 30 weeks i don't know what the fuck 205 days yeah so that divided by seven however many weeks that is i have to have to it sounds ridiculous that i know that i just happen to look it up today for an instagram post what's that divided by seven and i'll tell you that big steve is big math nice if there's anybody that i ever need help with math i i could pull out a calculator or i'll call steve and go hey man can you just so yeah we're we're 29 weeks out so

you got a solid 18 to 20 weeks where you you gotta really worry about a peak so you had some fun with ammonia with those with those packets um i think those were the best i think that i yeah you know what they weren't offensive like the one we had the week before where it was just like yeah got like basically a shotgun to the eyeball yeah i brought the dim mac and over to steve's house and i think we both fucking hated that. It was so bad. It's still bad. That needs to be left with the lid off for half an hour to calm down, and then it'd be perfect. But anyway, so yeah.

Left outside. Left outside. Obsidian Ammonia, we got our code. It's unpaid. Save you 15%. I know he just had a big BOGO sale. So like, honestly, if you're really going to do anything, just do what is best for yourself and for Obsidian Ammonia. But if there isn't a big sale going on, use our code.

It's Ammonia. Now he is, of course, sponsoring everything everywhere. I just found out that Travis is sponsoring WRPF Texas. He's got another federation, think that he's sponsoring uh the dude is doing so much for the powerlifting community that if you if you want to use ammonia maybe think about using that one because i know there's other ammonias out there but nobody's giving back like he is yeah you know i'm a big fan of theirs for sure it's just that one was just a little stronger than he did. Oh, yeah.

No, fuck, I remember that too. Like, I did that one too. I think one of my eyes closed permanently for half an hour. But, yeah. And then we also have plate snacks. I don't think we talk about plate snacks enough, Keith. We did some last week. Yeah, give me a heads up on plate snacks.

Oh, let me pull that one up. I always fumble with this one. I will say this while you're looking it up, though. After hearing your read from last week, I was like, I got to go look at this. And I'm just like, man, I want all of that. Yeah, they're waiting for the plate snacks. So before you even get into the ad, I'm just stalling. This is the ad.

Yeah, actually, I'm stalling right now. I think my hundreds, my strength go hundreds, need a Jagermeister symbol. And I think the person to do that is going to be PlateSnacks. Yeah. That being said, do they work on bumper plates? I'd have to look that up. I'm not positive. I think they work on, it depends on the plate, but I'm pretty sure you can get smaller ones that work on like the hub part that's smooth before it goes into like the contoured part.

Yeah, so it's only going to work on whatever is like a smooth flat surface. And it's not going to, I mean, you can't put a sticker on something that's like bumpy or rigid or holey. So it all depends on what you have, I guess. But yeah, he's made all our stickers. But yeah, he's he's he's made all our stickers. He's made Scott Dodds is, you know, pecker stickers of Tanner and Tommy that, you know, uses the bar shaft as their dicks, which is just the funniest thing ever. Gluck did his video today and he had a bunch of old he had a he had a gym review and he basically put all his like cheap, shitty China import plates. He put plate snacks on just to kind of jazz it up and stuff.

But he does a lot of different stuff. He's got he can do a little smaller banners as well so if you're uh you know looking for anything kind of neat or to put your own little flair on your gym go check out our buddy uh plate snacks use code unpaid to save 15 percent can't argue with that pretty deece pretty deece so we're getting close to two hours here oh man yeah we're doing, we're doing it. We're doing it. Do you want to get into some unpaid and underrated? Yeah, let's do some unpaid and underrated.

Do you want to go first this week? I know that usually you go first. I'll go first. I'll stick with my... Don't throw me off my game this late. So, Big Steve, unpaid or underrated. Are you familiar with the game? I know you use as much druthers as you'd like, and you know right in the line, unpaid is the equivalent to overrated, and underrated is underrated.

So he's giving me a heads up, or a head nod. So I'm going to go with, this is going to be a little harkened back to last week, because I think your answer is going to be a little different from Carp's. So I want to hear your opinion on ketchup and if it's unpaid or underrated. It's pretty unnecessary as a whole. Yeah, I've never made ketchup.

Now, that being said, nothing like a good ketchup dad joke. Anytime I'm ever at somebody's house, if they make something nice, like a nice steak or something, first thing I'll do is get the ketchup and put it on the table and just wait for them to see it. Give me a second to figure out what you meant by a ketchup dad joke. I got you.

So you're not actually using it. You're just implying that their meat sucks and that it needs ketchup. I like it. Yeah. But no, I mean, I think it's generally uh unpaid nice yeah i threw that one out there because i think i on on the carbs ketchup poll you d specifically dm me neither when it was uh heinz versus the field you were like neither i was like all right well i'm gonna add that to the uh to the podcast page to because this week joey did like 90 of the show

prep for us if if not more. So ketchup is ketchup is only good on Costco fries. Everything else. Fuck right off. Ketchup is reasonable on chips. Yeah. You, you're Canadians and your ketchup chips is now you're talking about ketchup

chips. You don't actually like get a plain chip and then get a bowl of ketchup and do you? I mean, sometimes I'll do that too, though. You get like a bit of ketchup and a bit of vinegar and just drive it in you. If it's on

food that has like that should be good, then it doesn't belong anywhere near it. I agree. You don't need that crap. My second one. Unpaid or underrated all-in-one gyms.

Pieces of gym those Marcy all-in-one gyms. Pieces of gym... Those Marcy all-in-one gym cable systems. Or whatever brand. The cheaper ones. It's like the one that I have in my next room. Yeah.

That is why it was the... Yes, I put together almost all of these. Yes. I did see it in the video, and I was in the video and I want to ask you about that. It's kind of tough because I mean, you know, like they're an asperity. Like they have their place,

but it's like, if you had a good one, I would say definitely underrated. The one I have would be perhaps unpaid. It depends on how much you paid for it, I guess. Yeah. Also, the problem with those things is they do everything like 80% as good as you want them to, and that's great that you have the ability to not do that,

but is it as good as a high-end commercial gym? Absolutely not. But it's better than not doing it at all, too. Now, how important is putting the feet on uh the right way well if you want your floor to not get scratched up and ruin half an hour of your life then it's pretty important he sends me a text he's like and he circled the fucking foot it's like this thing cost me fucking hours because he put the one rubber... There's step one in the book and I did it wrong.

And then when I got to step 12, which coincidentally is the last step, is when I realized that, oh, I can't put the faceplate over the weight stack because it doesn't attach to this thing backwards. That's shitty. So we had to take the whole thing apart, strip the entire hell out of the screws because I was using an impact driver because I'm an idiot. Oh, yeah. I'll just do anything I can. If you do. You had to drill with a chuck pretty, like, you know, on the lower end so it doesn't strip stuff out. It's your way to go.

No, I had an Allen key basically rigged up to my impact driver, and we made sure that thing's never coming apart. So I guess I can't move now. Yeah, well, I guess it'll just be backwards uh and uh we managed to get the whole weight stack off so i could turn the thing around and get it back on and you know it's it was a little bit traumatic but we got there and that's why i added it that that would be fucking funny to hear oh so from my third one oh you got one more you gotta oh yeah. Basically unpaid based on range of motion of the cheaper ones. Gotcha. Yeah. The bigger ones, I would say, are completely different class.

Like, I don't like they're there. You're talking about a functional trainer or those power, like basically the standalone power rack that have the crossover and the lat attachment and all that. Like, that's a different ballgame than when I think of all in one. I think of what you have or like like something that fucking Chuck Norris is trying to tell you it's 20 years ago now for my kids and for my wife absolutely underrated because that is not intimidating for them to use they can do it safely and uh it's a good introduction to strength training which if that's all you need it for wildly underrated there you go because it sure beats not doing it. Somebody's riding the line.

Well, I'm just giving a couple of caveats. For my particular use, unpaid. Also, putting it together, unpaid. Yeah, sounds like it for sure. The way my brain works, unpaid, yeah. So, my last one out of this list, I'm going to go with tugboats. Tugboats, unpaid or underrated

and why? And if there's a story, elaborate. It might be the most underrated thing in history. Alright. Why is that? Because he has to tell you why. I'm going to choose not to elaborate on this one. They're just wildly underrated.

Alright. We'll have to find out in Discord. There was a bit of a story. Once again, I mean, believe it or not, alcohol was involved. And I thought we were watching My Name is Earl. And... Overrated.

What? I forget the guy's name played by Ethan Supley. Yeah. Randy. That's the one. He was trying to control his dream so that way he could meet earl in his dream or something like that i forget what it is it's been like 20 years and then uh when they woke up earl asked him like oh we're like did we get together did we hang out in the dream and he's like no i just had the same dream about that was a tugboat again and then i thought this was a threat but i said i wish i was a tugboat i'd tug everyone

and then immediately realized how non-threatening that was and uh 20 years later we're talking about it on a podcast you fucking tugger you oh no it's it's easily uh there were so many other ones steve i could have put in there yeah like this couch of sex for my ass the couch of sex for my ass i wish they made hot tea but cold uh no i wish they made cold tea but hot is what you said too like there's so many of them yeah oh the the sex for my ass one was pretty good too though but like yeah good coach he was actually i almost bought that couch later but i thought i'd throw tugboats in there and i really don't think he saw that joke coming Actually, I almost bought that couch later. But I thought I'd throw tugboats in there,

and I really don't think Keith saw that joke coming. Yeah, I wish I was a tugboat. I'd tug everybody. Okay, I have a couple. So unpaid or underrated. Seeing Moose without Sandy. How'd that go? Oh, that was fantastic for me. Yeah, that was yeah that was definitely it was definitely unpaid for her driving down the highway on the way back from the lift hard live easy and it's

just like oh my god that's a weird looking horse holy crap that's not a horse at all yeah it's just a couple of mooses hanging out the side of the highway oh i thought you're talking about fucking mitchell hooper for a second because i assumed you saw him at the arnold or something so you're looking like seeing a moose or seeing oh there's a reason my why my big cat is named a moose moose are my wife's favorite animal okay and it's been like her life's obsession and her life's goal like we drove two weeks through the east coast like trying to like driving at dusk, like basically risking my life so she could see a damn moose. And here we are just driving home. Like,

and there's like a couple of them sitting on the side of the highway when she's not there. So of course we pulled over and took pictures and sent them to her. And, and there's one level to that that I think is one of the funniest stories that me and Steve have about the lift Hard, Live Easy is what your cats did while we were watching Moose cross the road. Do you want to tell it or do you want me to tell it? Yeah, so my cats have what's kind of like the equivalent of a hamster wheel, but for cats.

So this thing is like a basically a five five foot, a five foot, a circle, or I guess. The circle, it's a hamster wheel. Yeah. It's a five foot diameter, like hamster wheel. So one of my cats decided that that's a reasonable place to throw up is on

this thing. And then one of the other cats was like, Hey, I'm going to go for a run. And yeah, that went about as well as you would expect it made one hell of a mess and apparently sandy was having a much less good time than us she had to go and uh clean all that oh god cats are the worst so sandy says pretty amazing hearing her

swearing and everything over text uh speech from android so she's texted just fucking mad so these cats are vomiting and it's everywhere and then she goes did you see a moose without me and i gotta tell you steve's response was no we saw two and that is the best time like that was a mother and a calf that's funny just hanging out on the side of the highway only doing their thing well i'm glad they weren't road That was a mother and a calf. That's funny. Just hanging out on the side of the highway, doing their thing. I'm glad they weren't roadkill like all the other fucking things you guys saw when you're driving. Those would probably cause people...

That would take out cars before... That's a good point to bring that up. Me and Steve saw a lot of dead deer. That's why I mentioned it. I'm just saying, the one time where Sandy and I do see a moose, it'll probably be laid on the side of the highway. Oh, that'll be sad. I know.

Same with Morgan. Morgan is convinced that fox don't actually exist because she's never seen a fox in real life except for one dead one. She's like, no, you guys are fucking with me. These are kind of ridiculous because, I mean, I used to see them weekly when I was working in 12, which means nothing to anybody listening to this probably. No, they live out here.

Like, I see them all the time. Okay, so unpaid or underrated crunchy snow? Yeah, pretty unpaid. That can kick rocks for sure. All right. Okay. do you want to expand just how much you hate crunchy snow or just just steve hates crunchy snow i just don't like crunchy snow like when it gets to like a certain temperature and the snow becomes like crunchy like when it's fresh and everything is good and or even if it's

like packing snow no problem i'll walk all over it but it's just kind of like nails on chalkboard to me when it's like crunching, you step on it. It's just the, I don't know. It ain't right. He's a weird, I gotta,

I gotta calm down before I get all wound up here, but I'm not. No. And the part of the thing is you're not wrong. Like I've heard, there are so many people that feel that way about that sound. That sound is grading to so many people. And just,

I don't know. It's just everything about it is just pretty wrong. Alright. I'm going to do... I'm actually going to finish this whole thing of unpaid and underrated. Alright. Unpaid or underrated? FacePulse. Pretty underrated, I think. I don't know, I just... I know they're not for everyone but they just feel

good for me and there's i did some today with a rope but sometimes i like to do them with uh with a longer rope with the handles and i think where people get into trouble is when they start loading up the weight and try to actually make it a strength exercise where it's like no it's just a way to have a little bit of resistance to get a bit of a stretch and to kind of rehab some nagging issues. I'm just a big fan of it for that. I could do them in pretty much

every workout. All right. Let's go two more. Two more, Steve. Unpaid or underrated, a Texas Mickey of Jack Daniels see that's tough I don't know what that is at all it's a couple I don't know

a Texas Mickey I think is what is it three liters or two liters it's three yeah it's three liters it's a big fucking I don't know. The Texas Mickey, I think, is what? Is it three liters or two liters? It's three. Yeah, it's three liters. It's a big fucking giant. You know, everything's bigger in Texas. You know, so it's the Texas Mickey.

So if you look at it from a dollar proposition, it's kind of unpaid. But if you look at it in a context of having a few friends together and making it a mission to finish this. In 48 hours, four of us finished. Already underrated. That being said, actually, I'm going to go unpaid because there's no way I'd have any part of that now. Oh, God, no. No, God, no. You can show me Jack Daniels now, and I'm like, no, I'm good.

I don't want anything to do with that. But at the time, yeah, that was pretty fucking stupid. Let alone, like, three people drinking three liters of it. It's probably unnecessary. It happens. I got a quick question about doing stupid shit when we were younger. Did anyone else... We always called it the flaming bottle, so anytime

you killed a handle, you would, like, you'd cap it uh so it still have all the the vapors in it you'd run it under scalding hot water for like 10 minutes until you basically ran out of water you take it outside cap take the lid off and light it with a lighter and it'd shoot like a fucking 10 foot like blue flame up that's just something we did and like i remember my buddy did it when he was super drunk once and like fucking like like badly burned his forearms like he's still scarred to this day now we did that like i don't know that was just something we did anytime we'd kill a handle like when we were like in high school or like the first couple

years out of high school and i still drank regularly there was just some stupid young i did a lot of stupid things uh when i was younger and that was not among them the fire was definitely not one of the things we fucked around with a lot. Our livers, our kidneys, our well-being, absolutely. My ability to get out of bed in a reasonable time without being in pain for the first 45 minutes of the day.

You know, those kinds of things. Alright. The last one, and I'm going to tell you this, I ran it by somebody and they were not pleased because they did not see the humor behind it. Sounds like my favorite kind. Yeah. So unpaid or underrated, my brother. That's it?

Greg. Sure. He's like, how's that funny? That's not funny at all. And I i was like it kind of fucking is dude like absolutely underrated yeah absolutely he's definitely a good golf buddy we're both the same so we always go back and forth about whether he beats me or i beat him uh i think I got him on distance, but he's got me on consistency, so there's that.

The only thing is, I'd love to work out with him, but he never seems to want to... He just never shows up. So that's fair. But overall, I'm going underrated for sure. Not one. Every time he's around and I'm around, we always have fun. I love my brother.

So the running joke is, of course, Steve and I have been friends for fucking years. And then out of the blue, Steve is golfing with my brother. And it's interesting that my brother tried to get me into lifting years ago and I wasn't into it. And now that me and Steve are into it, Greg, my brother, just wants nothing to do with lifting with other people. If you come to his house and lift on his terms, he's in, but he will never come to anybody else's

for a lift party. He does, but only at his gym. We'll go to his gym. Yeah, we'll fucking do it live. All right. I think you won. I think you just survived the most onslaught of unpaid moderated.

Did we go nine, eight, seven? Yeah, like we won all of them. Pretty sure six of the nine. I was just confused more than anything. Whatever, man. You're like my best friend. So, like, I've definitely had so much more that I wanted to hear about and contribute

and give people a chance to make fun of me for that is absolutely fair they will not make fun of you then that means they don't like me I mean I'll make fun of you for wearing hockey fucking gear to bed but that's that's about it.

That is it's a really funny story. I can separate myself from the stupidity and be like, yeah, it's warranted. That's one thing is I don't take myself too serious. Like I do a lot of stupid things and I can separate myself from it. Go. Yeah, that's pretty funny. If it wasn't me. No, it's funny when it is

me probably hand the reins over to you i'm just uh i it might have been omitted on purpose and if that's the case then great just don't worry about it we won't answer it but did you want to tell anybody uh give anyone a backstory of your professional career what you do for a living is that something you wanted to share at all a lot of people seem interested in what the other crew do for a living because they can kind of relate to them with that. Yeah. So I, after 23 years of working on my last job, which was an automotive cleaning and maintenance, I switched over and kind of changed teams. So now I'm a production supervisor for an automotive parts manufacturer.

And it's not anything that I think anyone would find too exciting except that we do a lot of e-coding so it would be nice to e-coding I don't know if we have the same high tech operation as our friends down there

make them wait gotcha yeah okay so what are you e-coding on the vehicle car parts would you like skid plates or just like any kind of uh structural components now is that what's the difference between e-coding and like a like a ceramic cerakote or something like like e-coding it's more of like a that's almost just like a plating in it or what is actually yeah it's almost like a magnetic plating i guess it would be kind of similar to chrome chroming i would imagine okay

i'm sure that somebody knows about that stuff more than me. It's probably like zinc or whatever. No, it's just like a multi-tank dipping stage. I'm not even 100% familiar with it. I'm more just on the production side of things. We have context for that stuff. But parts go and run, they come out black, so I can tell you that. There you go.

Well, that's cool. So you worked for the same place for 23 years, it's just in the same industry, but prior to that same place. And then I just kind of had an opportunity to come up recently and I, uh, got asked to come down and interview for a position that was becoming available. And I thought, okay, why not go down and take a look? position that was becoming available and i thought okay why not go down and take a look and the interview went great so it was probably yeah it was kind of i'm sure there's not too many people who have their first job interview at 40. oh wow so you did that's great okay so the first job you had you just kind of it was like hey this is my buddy he's gonna start today kind of thing you didn't actually yeah like the the plant manager at the time I was like, when I was growing up,

I was babysitting as kids. And then I knew I was looking for a job. He said, Hey, you want to come down here? And I thought, sure. Why not?

That is kind of crazy. Because that'd be a good evening and weekends job, you know, to keep me busy for a little bit. And a quarter century later, I decided to find. Wow. That's a 40.

The first time you get a job interview, that is actually, that's an impressive stat. Like that's, that's like, I'm trying to wrap my head around that. Like that's uh 40 the first time you get a job interview that is actually that's an impressive stat like we don't that's that's like i'm trying to wrap my head around that like that's i don't know i've probably been on 20 job interviews all time like that's including like bullshit job interviews and i was like in high school and stuff but like as an adult i've probably only been on like six job interviews maybe yeah i've been called for a few that i like i applied for some and some, I just didn't bother going to,

or I don't know, whatever. Like there was a few things where I backed out, but yeah, pretty much. Yeah. 40 years old. First job interview.

Nice. Well, I have a hundred percent success ratio. So I got that going for me. Well, as, as, as,

as, as a man who has a plethora of interview experience, we're going to hand it over to you and let you interview us for a second. If you get anything you want to ask us or any questions or games or whatever, this one is going to be a little bit short, but let me start off by this. This might annoy you, but I don't care.

So Keith, what are you doing on March 2nd, March 2nd, March 2nd. I don't, I don't want to break out my cancer. I should know. No 2nd. I don't know. Let me break out my cash. Is there a Joe's? I should know.

No, I already know what's going on there. Yeah, you should meet your buddies, Joey and Steve, in Buffalo, and we should drive down to the Arnold. We already have a hotel room booked. Oh, the Arnold, yeah. You're talking about how it would cost you too much. It's already booked. Oh, God.

I don't know. We'll see. That's a big maybe. So it doesn't have to be expensive. I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah. Obviously, we don't expect an answer today, but I just thought, hey, you know what? Oh.

I got to keep my, I got to figure that one out. My biggest concern is just like- We're going Saturday and coming home Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. We're not doing that bullshit that we did last year where it was like three days and no, no, we're going to 6 a.m. Steve's going to either

pick me up or I'm going to pick Steve up. We're going to drive down to Ohio. We're going to be there for... I checked it out. It would take 42 minutes more to go to Buffalo and I'm... Yeah. We'll see. I'm kind of nervous about the whole being there Saturday thing because everyone's talking this one up that it's going to be more like it was in

like 19 and 18 where it was just great. Do you know how cool that is? Oh, God. You know how much you miss? You don't have to be pulled deep in everything. You can just hang out at the Masonomics area and then go to the bar afterwards and then go home the next morning.

We'll see. Anyway, don't appreciate it. Just say it's what it is. I mean, I've never been asked that question from someone sitting in my own basement though that was kind of weird so for anyone that's like we obviously don't put this out on zoom but i'll post a screenshot of it but steve uh took a very like literally a like a three days a three day ago picture of my basement because it's got the lift hardly easy poster in the back so i know it's a fresh picture and he's using that as his background on the zoom call and it's just been i basically just been staring at my york round heads that i have a

complete set of that tanner doesn't you know that's just my beautiful york round heads and that just beautiful pristine gym gym so i've seen really yeah my my gym yeah big gym uh i've enjoyed looking at that so if i ever sounded distracted it's because i'm like i've never looked back at my gym for fucking two hours and i will ask you this so this is for keith again because i pretty much know a lot about joey so yeah tell me who what's joey schmowy i maybe i maybe this has come up and i just missed it but what's your uh weightlifting origin story oh let's see so i mean i played football in high school but i'd like i think i went to the weight room like fucking like 20 times over the course of like my high school career so I don't even really count that because I was you know I was poor so for me to actually like have a job and like drive to

school I had to have a or I have to have a car I had to have a job if you have a job making it to the weight room and shit was just like less likely for me I know other guys did it I just didn't make it a priority to go to the weight room in high school. So probably late 20s, early 30s. So like 2013 ish, we joined a gym, like a commercial gym, did that deal for a few years, like spent way too many thousands of dollars for a fucking personal trainer for like a year and a half, two years, probably even followed him from like from LA Fitness to a little smaller boutique gym that he went to, to train out of. And then even to another one. And then at that last one, he got into a, there was another one of the,

some of the other trainers, they were putting on a mock powerlifting meet. So the guy that was running that I ended up like becoming buddies with and sort of training in his garage gym periodically and just like understanding and knowing what powerlifting was. And at that time, my job had changed where I had a lot of free time to little amount of free time.

So having the ability to, uh, yes, Joey's waving at me. Oh, no, no, no.

Um, so we're just finding the powerlifting was just easier and less time consuming than trying to go to a commercial gym and, uh, get all those training sessions in and like, you know, figuring all that out. So.

Yeah. It can be tough to do powerlifting in like a commercial gym setting. Yeah. So then that kind of segued into the home gym aspect of like, all right, well, I'm literally at this point, I'm just squat benching and deadlifting once a week and maybe doing like

shoulders on another day or something. So like, what can I do in my basement? And at that time I just had like, you know, the same sand weights and the, the, the one inch bar and the, like the really dangerous bench press everyone had. Like, I think I had that for like years and never really used it.

Gray weeder. Yeah. Sort of using that for a little bit and then got a, got a really good deal on a squat rack from Titan and then got my first Olympic bar and first Olympic plates. And then I would just kind of snowballed from there, but just, uh, yeah. And you know, It was like I was saying to Joey a couple of weeks ago there, I was like,

you know, if my kids start taking things seriously, like I can be pretty minimalist and be happy, but if they start taking things seriously and they got good, like I told Joey, I'm like, I'm going to go full Keith. I was with a bigger basement and I'm going to go ape shit. Yeah. And that's, and everyone looks at, everyone looks at my basement now and just thinks that I did that like 10 years ago and just like dropped like 30 grand on it.

I'm like, no, that's like bootstrapped fucking paycheck to pay. Well, not, I wouldn't even say paycheck to paycheck. Cause like only like less than 10% of that gym has been paid for out of like communal money.

And that was like probably like the startup. Other than that, it's all been like overtime money that I made side job money that I made or money flip money. I made flipping weights back when that was still something i could do pre-covid before the market got all fucked up but it's been a labor of love and it's been a basically i've built it to as like my friend group would come over and kind of be like all right well an extra power rack would be helpful and like well another extra power rack would be helpful because you know and then find another place for the deadlift and it's like if i was if i lifted alone i'd have a completely different gym like if i never had the intention of having people over

i'd have like three or four machines one power rack and like the dumbbells would probably be the same but like i would have like a couple different back extension or uh you know back row machines from hammer strength that i really like and just like a cable crossover or something stupid like that that just takes up way too much room but like i just like got 20 crossover or something stupid like that. That just takes up way too much room. But like, I just like a 20 barbells and three squat racks. So that's easier to, you know, tomorrow I've got probably tomorrow I got a lift party and I have no clue if it's going to be four people or 14 people.

It's going to be somewhere in between there. Cause I've, I've got like three or four confirmed RSVPs and then like 10 people that just are maybe. So I don't know. Unfortunately, I have a hockey game tomorrow. Cause one of these days,

Joey and I got to get down there and actually live yeah it's gonna happen it's actually gonna happen and it'll be one of those like open invites and we're not gonna tell you we're coming randomly show up yeah well it's a pretty much every every sunday it's just me and my buddy chris pretty much and then um but that's kind of early so you guys i mean it's 9 30 start typically 9 30 a.m yeah yeah well that's my so i so i Yeah. So I do my Sundays to cater when my wife's not home. So I have a limited amount of times where I'm, like, training, you know, when she's upstairs, basically. Because it's, like, super obnoxiously loud when we're in the basement. But, yeah, Friday nights, usually, like, 5 to 8.

You should make that happen in January, Jordan. I'll do my best. I mean, yeah. I mean, at that point, we point we could like just make it the crew one too we'll like figure out a date before or after the arnold or something and see who all could actually make the jaunt sounds good or definitely even a spring gcc too yeah yeah there you go that's a good one because i've got there's technically three four crew that live in ro in Rochester three that might actually come out I think and then Matt says me and the Buffalo

that might make it out depending on the season well they now for mostly for Keith but also I guess maybe for both of you so when you were like when you were younger versus now who were your inspirations like in the fitness community or in like the

strength training community that you looked up to? And has it really changed? So like, for instance, when I was younger, like Mario Pujanowski was like, to me, it was like,

awesome. Like, like, yeah, I want to be like that guy. You know, obviously nobody's like that guy. That guy is that guy.

And that's it. But you know, what about you? As far as like strength athletes that are like even was registered as a kid like magnus for magnuson on watching like espn two strongman shows in like the late 90s from the early 90s probably because like they always aired shit from like 10 years ago um watching him just dominate like every event he ever every show that he ever did like as a kid at least the ones that i saw like magnus and being a smaller guy like i mean smaller than like six two three hundred but smaller versus everyone out everyone else out there typically uh watching him dominate world

strongest man so like he's will always be my favorite strong man for that versus who i look up to today like i don't know like no one really just like it's evolved like there's like good lifters but i don't know i try I try not to, I don't really, I don't really have any quote unquote heroes. Cause then you just like, when you meet them, you get let down. So if you just kind of like, don't look at anyone,

I don't like putting people on a pedestal. So like, no one's really special to me, I guess. I don't really have like, even myself, it's like, do I have like somebody who's like a hero to me right now?

No, but I mean, there's a million different sources of inspiration. If you're looking for, you know, like Joey brought up to like my tro you're looking for it. Like Joey brought up too. Mitch Hooper, pretty cool. Nice to actually have a Canadian that matters and the world's strongest man seen.

Growing up younger, we had Hugo Gerrard who was always pretty strong, but he was always a bridesmaid. And same with even JF Caron. Yeah, that guy's awesome. The guy's traps are bigger than my shoulders but it's like to me i i look up to people that if you have a podcast that's lifting adjacent and you've had it going on for you know more than a couple years

i put high stock on that so obviously the boys at massonomics and then today even like i listen to let's get stupid like they i have i don't think i've ever gotten anything of value from that podcast because there's just two dudes shooting the shit like but i really enjoy that podcast like there's some episodes are like wow this is really fucking boring and hook told the same story again and again and again but like 90 of the time like it's just it's something it's a funny and original and i just i don't know i love i i put more stock into people that like can be committed to something like that year in and year out and stay you know producing the content i um you know obviously i am new to strength so i don't i don't know too much stuff i want to say i love liver king i think liver king is definitely

very genuine and uh is is contributing a lot to the culture of lifting and strength um but if i had to like yeah if i had to exclude that arnold is a big one obviously arnold's a big one like the dude is just he's done all of the things he's done the the good things the bad things the fuck up things and now he's trying to just be a better person and i think that we should be allowing people to do that as long as it's genuine mitch hooper definitely uh running into him by accident is probably one of the funniest things i think that's ever happened to me they just like like just at an event and there he is um who else am i watching almost a shame just how successful he is. Because it would have been hilarious if you guys could have got him on here before.

Actually, I don't want to say too much. I do think there's a chance we'll get him before they do. Just based on how they record and when he's available. From what I understand, I might start, I know he's not crew, but I think it would be really funny to have him jump on for a second. I think, uh,

sometimes, uh, you know, it's worth making an exception. Yeah. Um, strongest man. Okay.

Perhaps now if I'm looking at like, like, um, like body type and fitness type and all of that, there's a couple guys out there that are just strong men and they're not like they don't have abs they don't and then there's this there's this one dude i started following uh don like he dances in his videos and a lot of people accuse him of having like down syndrome and shit but that dude like like that he can deadlift so fucking much

that's the kind of guy that i'm just like he's like he's making good content he's having fun and he's strong as shit those are the kind of guys i'm looking for i i look forward to now uh big mike big mike van wick obviously i've brought him up before he's out of birmingham i think and um he's a bit of a dick sometimes but most of the time i do like his content as well right on i think we all should aspire to be like scantz because when i'm 65 i want to be that strong no i'm going scott's scott dodds i gotta say it's dance just reminds me so much of my uncle. It's ridiculous. Oh, I fucking love Scantz. He's a good dude, boys.

Boys. Boys. Oh, Scantz is awesome. He's just totally like my Uncle Brian. He is, actually. He is. He is a bit like Uncle Brian. Did you have any other questions, Steve?

It means nothing to anybody but two of us so uh i think we're kind of getting there i don't really have a whole lot more it's all good buddy it don't matter to us we're whatever you got no pressure yeah i think i'm i think i'm pretty good awesome well this is it was a fun episode i had a good time uh yeah it was kind of it was kind of two weeks in a row where like one of the hosts knew the other the guest like significantly better and had like a rapport obviously uh you know even you guys obviously know each other better than carp and i do but carp and i are like like like tied to the home gin scene like two peas in a pod so we kind of had that to to rely on last week for just our banter and everything but oh it's a good episode i had

fun i'm looking forward to meeting you. If not at the Arnold, well, meeting you after we've actually known you. I always say that like you're kind of one of the guys that I met at the Lift Hardly Beasy. You fucking met. If I didn't shake your hand and talk to you in depth. It's a whirlwind with 50 people. I mean, that is what it is, right?

Whereas now, like, there won't even be an icebreaker. It's not even going to be like, hey, buddy, I'm Big Keith. It's just like, we're just going to instantly i'm just going to instantly ask you about if you're fucking packed your hockey you know equipment to go to bed in and stuff like i'm gonna make that joke like the first time i see you in person again i'm sure of it so and i'll deserve it and i uh let's say i think that was the only thing you didn't elaborate on i was going to ask about the tugboat again but you did we did circle back to that one no the tugboat's very funny and there are so many other things perhaps there's a little bit too inside of a joke but

it's all yeah no no and i like i had to like be careful about the inside jokes like what can i bring up that we can explain without making either one of us look like absolute trash bags. But there is a fun thing that happened today, and I have to be very careful about. My credit card expired, and I think I'm going to get kicked out of Discord. So, yeah. We'll see if I continue to pay for this,

but this might be my last crew event. So yeah, yeah, we'll see, we'll see how that goes. Tanner kind of, kind of sent me a message like, are you sure you want to keep doing this?

People aren't a huge fan of you. So like I might, I might have to back off from, from some of the things, but like, if you don't hear from me for a couple weeks guys this is my last episode this is my last episode yep so tune in next week it's gonna be uh me Damager and Kevin you know we're gonna give them we're gonna give them a shot to see which one are gonna be able to take over the reins for Big Joe here I would actually ask that

you get Matt and see what he does uh because i think matt is a better replacement for me than anybody we went down that rabbit hole with matt before i don't know he's uh he always he will figure it out eventually yeah that's the the best ability in a podcast co-host is availability because finding like literally like finding two dudes that can marry their schedules together and be available for two to three hours one day every seven one one day a week like for eternity it's like that's a commitment so i if one of us did like legitimately you know have an issue and couldn't make it forever like it would be hard to find a replacement like a legit like i don't know what we would do

because like oh yeah this this guy can fill in for one week. And then, well, you know, I've got a priority. And I'm like, well, the podcast is the priority. And if you can't make that, you can't commit to it. And I don't know, that's going to be hard. Even as a guest, it took me about 30 weeks to be available because I work afternoons. Oh, that's a shitty shift. We'll see if Tanner lets me back in.

But maybe get Bryce or Jen even Jen Damager she's probably better than I am at this so we'll see what happens guys she might have more to say than Chris can't be worse you're a good guy Chris did you see he got what was that there was a bird stuck in his fence or some shit that he had to

get out I saw that. No, I didn't see that shit. I think it was, it might have been on her Instagram. I'm on so many Instagrams and like, I don't follow certain, like I'm on, like when I'm on the unpaid one, it's got like a plethora of more people because like there's just certain people I'm friends with on there that we're not friends with on like personal pages and stuff. So it's like, oh,

didn't, never haven't seen this side of that person yet. Well, where can we find you guys let's get this over i'm fucking exhausted so i'm big keith keith honey get 73 on instagram go follow my orange gym then a wine cellar but more importantly check out our instagram unpaid and underrated podcast and check out the website unpaid intern podcast.com and also check out glaze search.com we now have an entire fucking domain for that so you can check out how keith has rated movies uh tv shows are tv shows on there keith yes tv shows are on there yes yes you read my videos on the hub i mean check out stevehub.com

inadequate it would be a radian I suppose Steve where do we find you buddy just basically on Instagram they're at hucksteve and sometimes you'll find me on the discord usually lurking in the shadows and saying something stupid

once in a while then backing out again for a while and I'm still I'm still me i'm still joey but beyond that guys all right boys we'll see you next tuesday