Unpaid And Underrated - 035 : I’m Just Crü

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Trond. They dive into great topics like fanny packs vs. cargo shorts. suprise musical acts, suprise sacks, diabetes, and BizzaroTrond. Links Follw The Podcast... On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @trondpeterson (https://www.instagram.com/trondpeterson/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Trond.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and welcome back to episode 51 of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew i'm big keith one of your hosts i'm joined as always by my co-host here big joey hey that's me and then this week we have a special guest, Big Trond. Hello. How we doing, boys? And Big Matt, right? Maybe. He's coming later?
Starting point is 00:00:34 Possibly, possibly. Usually he comes first, but I mean, sometimes he might come later. Yeah. Only when you're doing that, reach around, buddy. Oh, yeah. so this is a this is a special episode for us we got a big tron here that i met out in crew falls a couple weeks ago uh well i guess a month ago now and uh he sent us a little care package so this might be the second ever what's in the box on unpaid and underrated so do you want us to go ahead and dive
Starting point is 00:01:01 right in or are they different boxes are they the box? Well, every box has at least one item that's the same. And then a personalized item for each of you. So yeah, I think we can go ahead and jump into that. And what's in the box or what's in the... I mean, I think I did send some of it through Amazon. So it probably did come in a box. But originally it was supposed to be my package that I sent to you. And, uh, and Joey, I know with you being in Canada, my mom is from, uh, Northern, uh, Minnesota and she's got family up in Canada. So I did, I did ask her about, to send packages to Canada.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And she did tell me, always, always, always double wrap your package. Yes. So you quadrupled it. I double, quadruple wrap my package when sending it to Canada. Double wrap your package, as mom says. And so that's what I did. Now, the friction doesn't affect that at all or anything like like we were told is used so yeah i think so mine has two chicken bakes in it
Starting point is 00:02:14 oh man those are possibly so mine mine mine did come in a sack so with a box with a sack in it so i'm i'm unboxing tron sack right now excellent he had a little sack in it. So I'm unboxing Tron's sack right now. Excellent. He had a little bow around his sack that I'm unwrapping. Yeah. As it said, it sits on my lap. Mine came in one, two, three actual pieces of bubble wrap.
Starting point is 00:02:34 So mine's almost... Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost already unwrapped because I wouldn't have time to undo that. Yes. So we got some... All right. I'm going to let Joe... so we got some right i'm gonna let joe so i got uh you ready okay i'm
Starting point is 00:02:48 gonna do the the black one first okay cool okay so yeah so joey that one's a separate to you so go ahead open that one up all right so this is a lot of leather yeah oh we can't say that this went over the border but I am excited oh do you know how much I was going to ask you about this yeah yeah that's why we double wrapped it
Starting point is 00:03:14 and with the gel pack so I have here the Macanudo Crew Royale okay there you go yes sir that's going to get smoked right after a deadlift session tomorrow. My man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Excellent. Excellent. I didn't want to have to make you wait all the way till lift hardly, live easy. I would earn that. I would deserve that. Excruciating. But also, thank you for this little, I usually use Bovito packs, but this looks like it's a little more effective. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So I'm going to throw that right in the humidor with it. Yep. And that should be a 70%, I think they're glycol gel pellets. So when they dry out, just add distilled water back up to the line. And then they're good for about a year maybe two years and then you got to replace them but but yeah hey my bovino pack ran out in my humidor so that's pretty exciting well perfect timing oh it smells just like a cigar little little fishy a little peppery oh i can't wait yeah no thank you you are welcome sir all right so go ahead keith i've got some
Starting point is 00:04:30 blue light blocking glasses i believe the yes the cool kids call these blue blockers if i recall yes oh yeah well you see keith um the other package that's in there that Joey also has and Big Nate also has is something that we'll talk about in a second. But these are for you because they are orange lenses.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You can tint the world orange at your convenience. I got it. Whenever you want to glaze the world orange, you throw those on. I didn't catch it at first because it was kind of dark in here. So, yeah. Yep. I seem to also have
Starting point is 00:05:14 orange lenses. You do, sir. And Keith, you can pull out the other set that you have. Nice, nice. And so this set was the one i originally bought for you guys and then i and then i read these are so powerful oh wow you are only supposed
Starting point is 00:05:36 to wear them for 30 minutes a day okay because because these are these are uh whatever uh color therapy lenses or something like that they align your chakras and and uh get your crystals all out of whack in the house or something how did you know my chakras were unaligned so and so what's funny is the uh the orange color specifically and there should be a little card in there, expands creativity and enthusiasm. So whenever you're feeling a little bit negative or feeling a little bit down or not inspired, you guys should be able to throw these on and just paint the world orange and and get inspired and enthusiastic and uh and so yeah i i've actually been throwing them on every now and then and they're actually quite fun outstanding keith i grabbed a picture of all of us wearing those so i'll send that off to you these these are dramatically more orange like if i had to put a ratio yes the first pair the the
Starting point is 00:06:43 blue blocker brand were like a 20 orange these are like an 80 orange that's crazy yeah so let's go at 8 45 at 9 15 we have to take these off or we might well i'm picking mine off now no no actually actually the orange is actually excellent for getting you set for sleep because it does block all the blue light so it mimics a sunset so uh you know if you ever listen to any uh anthony huberman's podcast and all that kind of stuff where he talks about the importance of uh seeing the sun and all that jazz uh for uh i might wear these on my drive home every day like well on on days, actually. I don't know if I could. Well, that's what the blue blockers are for.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Okay, okay. Because those you can throw on in the car, and you can throw those on and wear those all day, and they're fine. Gotcha. These, I will say, if you do wear them for like an hour, it does mess with your eyes when you take them off. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I'm like, I have like a 15-minute drive home. Oh, perfect then. These are sick, and they're very neat.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I dig it. I did get big Nate, uh, pair as well. And I sent those to him. And so that was, uh, you know, for when he's doing all his orange glaze, uh, you know, site maintenance, uh, maybe he could, you know, uh, watch, watch some movies watch some movies with the orange glaze himself and maybe we can all start gaining a perspective on Keith's perspective
Starting point is 00:08:11 of all the movies. And I don't know, maybe it turns Will Ferrell into a demon or something. I haven't tried it out yet. I wonder what happens if you watch Elf with these on. Now, I kind of knew what was in there.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. Because Nate posted a picture in our group chat. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my package arrived. And I kind of like I was like, I opened it and went, oh, no. And scrolled really quick. And I was like, same. I was like, you fucked with a surprise.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah, I did. And so, like like i kind of knew that there was a glasses in there but i had no clue what else was going on so uh big ups to nate but i know he was pretty excited he said he's gonna add his uh his reaction to him post it's big nate here to unbox Big Tron's package. Today we have a package from Big Tron. I'll let you listen. Okay, we're gonna take our first attempt at emptying Tron's package. Alright, the first item has been opened.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Ah, it looks like we have a pair of blue blocking glasses. Very fancy. Great for web development. Okay, let's go back to Tron's package. There it is. The orange color therapy glasses. I'm going to be able to turn my whole world orange. And I think I saw one more thing in the package. it's a note that says so you can protect your eyes when looking up orange glaze ratings i can't wait to put these to use thanks tron um yeah i i actually am into the circadian rhythm stuff i have a happy light
Starting point is 00:10:52 that we call it in the house for those oh nice yeah those uh those those days we don't get a chance to go outside because it's too rainy or snowy or something like that so you know i'll throw that on for everybody in the house my wife hates it but yeah so very very very rarely do you use that in canada then because i'm assuming it's polar opposite of south dakota where you know it's just sunshine and rainbows like every day so oh yeah they are very south of you so i mean that makes sense yeah yeah i always say it's lovely scott Scottish weather around here a lot. Yeah. All right. I have to take these off. They are hurting me,
Starting point is 00:11:27 but I love them. Yeah. That's a, that's a good drive home glasses. Yeah, I dig it. Absolutely. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:32 wow. It is so different. Yeah. It messes with you. It really does. Yeah. I gotta be careful where it goes. That would actually probably get my wife like vertigo,
Starting point is 00:11:41 make her pass out or something for real. Yeah. For more than a minute. Uh, all right, boys. Well, that was a pretty awesome segment that like i said i think that was thanks so much uh what's in the sack what's in the box what's in the can etc oh uh what no segueing into what is in the can so uh this week i've got this is my second week in a row of having something new so i've got the trader joe's uh what do you got raspberry lime it's actually pretty good uh just popped it open a little bit ago and i'm a fan hey fun story i got a trader joe's too because somebody drove to new york this week whoa and also and whoever was in new york told me that
Starting point is 00:12:19 he was near rochester and so well where at and then you were like 90 minutes away i was like yeah i hit an exit and it said like rochester this direction i was like oh keith i'm near you but i guess i just didn't pay attention to the sign that said how far rochester was rochester 90 miles yeah yeah uh so i've got the um the rhubarb and strawberry soda sparkling beverage i also of course picked up my favorite energy drinks while I was across there. I picked up Liquid Death, because
Starting point is 00:12:51 obviously I'm going to pick up Liquid Death whenever I'm across the border. But I also got some really special Jagermeisters. So up here in Canada, we have Jagermeister and we have Jagermeister Cold Brew. And I walked into the liquor store and I was like, you know what? I wanted to get some of the little bottles of Jagger.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Um, and it turns out that they didn't have it, but I was able to get something called manifest and hot ginger. Never heard of those in my life. So I bought them on the spot, not even thinking I couldn't get the back across the border, but we tried those this week. Not great. Not great.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Not as good as the original, but cheers to my American drinks. Did you get those at the knick-knack store Costco? Or did you get those? So the closest knick-knack store was 30 minutes from trader joe's we couldn't couldn't make it you said trader joe's sorry yeah couldn't make it work i wanted to go get a chicken bake but no what do you got what are you drinking over there far i've got well i've got of course Of course, in assortment. He's got the sleeve. In my cooler, too.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Nice. Yeah. And let's see. What do I got here? What do I want to start with? Well, I got to start with the old standby. Best flavor made. That would be the LaCroix Beach Plum.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Beach Plum, right? Right there. It's a newer flavor that they have and it's it's just delightful i can't uh can't say enough good things about it and uh and uh life hack uh the store menards is based out of wisconsin lacroix is also based out of w. So if you go to Menards, they have 15 packs of LaCroix for the same price as 12 packs of LaCroix at other stores. There you go. Exclusive Menards opportunity there. You do save big at Menards.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I'm going to keep this. Of course, the cooler tube is excellent because it not only will keep your beverages cold, it'll keep them piping hot. So I'm going to go ahead and put my piping hot LaCroix into my silly goose koozie and keep that nice and warm as I'm spending the night out in the shed here. I love that koozie, but what a fight that is for every empty can i didn't i didn't realize that until you mentioned it last week and i went to take my can out at the end of the episode and to go to like go throw it away and go to bed and i was like oh that's that's staying there till tomorrow i'm not yeah like you gotta jam with that you gotta jam your finger in a little hole to like loosen it at the bottom and squeeze the top like like arnold like oh
Starting point is 00:15:44 that's the next youtube content that i want to see tanner do it's like Arnold... That's the next YouTube content that I want to see Tanner do. It's like a short tutorial on how to properly remove the can in like under two seconds safely. But like use the same video as like removing an Inzer knee sleeve. Yeah, you have to like put the
Starting point is 00:16:01 grocery bag inside the koozie first to help pull out the can. Those baby powderators. I just pretend every time I'm taking a can out that it's a grip strength event. I'm ripping it out. It's like the two-inch hub or whatever grip training thing. the two inch hub or whatever, uh, you know, grip training thing. And so, so yeah, so then, you know, you've got to,
Starting point is 00:16:31 you've got to drink more so you can get both hands equally trained, you know, and even out, you don't, you don't want to be asymmetrically trained. That's, that's just going to be a bad, bad time. Yeah. I think I'm going to just start, uh, referring to these as the ins and insleeves of drink koozies. That is excellent. And I'll do it now. And then next week, Tanner will steal it from me, put it on the main podcast, and then it'll become canon. Masonomics original idea.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Well, Tron, what are you wearing, buddy? I see a nice big jacket. I'm assuming that's because you're outside in your cold shed. I'm outside. And this is something that I would, it's not Masonomics, big jacket. I'm assuming that's because you're outside in your cold shed. I'm outside. And this is something that I would, it's not Massanomics, the jacket, but I do have Massanomics underneath. So I will remove the jacket and display everything else. But this is a velour tracksuit. And it's made by a company called sweat cito and i i would love to see a uh you know a
Starting point is 00:17:29 collaboration of massonomics and sweat cito but i received this as a christmas gift from a family friend uh one year and he's been giving this gift out to one family member per year. And because him and all his high school buddies, they all got them. And they're just delightful. But what I'm wearing right now is, of course, the long sleeve, you know, hardly working pocket tee. It's, you know, this is my most recent purchase and I felt so bad and just so stupid at the, uh, the, uh, uh, crew falls December to remember event when I was having to babysit a jacket all night and I didn't have any massonomics jackets that were clean that day. Um, so never
Starting point is 00:18:23 again, we'll, we'll, uh, we'll, I allow allow that to happen so i picked up a couple of a couple of massonomics coats and then also uh never go too far without my handy massonomics uh fanny pack that thing is uh it's it's just the swiss army knife of uh men's apparel i wear mine every day. Yep. The other day, I was like, okay, I really only need my keys and wallet. And then I opened up my fanny pack and was like, oh, that's actually all that's in here. So I should just bring the fanny pack. I had that internal struggle where I didn't want to bring the fanny pack.
Starting point is 00:18:57 But why not? What am I going to do? Carry stuff like a chump? Yeah. I guess I'm just a cargo pants guy. And I have been for the last like 15 years probably so that makes sense well they they're functional like uh i work i have to have tools with like random tools in my pockets at all times anyway so and then i've got to the point that like
Starting point is 00:19:15 my wallet got too big i haven't sat on my wallet in like like 10 15 years it's so bad for you my wallet goes in my left front cargo pocket my cell phone goes in my cell phone pocket and like airpods and maybe a mask or something if i'm still you know you know go in my right cargo pocket because i even though we're not i'm not necessarily wearing masks uh like mandatory but if i'm going into someone's sick apartment i'm putting my mask on if i'm going into a stinky apartment to do work i'm putting a mask on like how do your pants stay up with all that shit in them i wear a belt that's really it's the same amount of shit that would be in your pockets no matter what you could just have a fanny pack and skip the whole belt and
Starting point is 00:19:46 heavy yes i'll wear a fanny pack at work that'll work that'll that'll go out that'll be well that'll be uh that'll be rise approved at my job i don't know it's my company name yeah i don't think they would uh i can get away with a lot of stuff but i don't know not very osha i mean that would dude it is it do you guys ever wear carpenter pants and like those fucking things catch on the doorknob like as a kid it's the worst it's the freaking worst no i wear kilts and five inch eames shorts and spandex jeans because everything else just falls apart but i did and in addition to my cargo pants i also wear bench heavy t-shirts like i am tonight one of my favorites nice nice oh yeah i got the lift hard be kind i got the mitch hooper
Starting point is 00:20:30 oh yeah on because you know let's get him on the podcast i yeah i think it's just hard for i've spoken to both him and tanner and it's just hard for them to to line up their schedules it's just hard for them to to line up their schedules sure well and you know i i kind of like i used to watch all the uh world's strongest man competitions back when they were like on espn two at two o'clock in the morning and all that sort of stuff and like you know magnus for magnuson was was my hero you know in high school um but for whatever reason like i never watched this last one and so all of a sudden this mitch hooper starts popping up and whatever reason like i never watched this last one and so all of a sudden this mitch hooper starts popping up and i'm like i really like this guy like but who is this and then lo and behold yeah world's strongest man i was like man this guy he seems pretty
Starting point is 00:21:15 genuine he seems like yeah a pretty cool guy yeah from what i can see but obviously everything is curated right so absolutely i ran into him by accident um just started talking to him about how him and i chatted on instagram he kind of remembered who i was based on that so like you know yeah i was at the arnold when i that was the first time i'd ever seen him because steve was big steve guest from last week said something like you're gonna like this guy he's canadian and he's probably gonna win and you know at the end of the when he won that final event he stood at the top of that ramp and he cracked a beer and he cheered canada and it was just like yeah okay i might like him and uh you know yeah he's a good
Starting point is 00:21:57 dude yeah okay so keith you want to chat about this week's YouTube video? Because I haven't had a chance to watch. I mean, we always talk about it. There's only so much. It was a, if anyone hasn't watched it, I'm sure everyone's watched it. Most people should have seen it by now, but it's Tanner doing a vlog style of his deadlift. So just kind of driving from his house to the gym, his workout, and then kind of leaving the parking lot. his workout and then kind of uh leaving the parking lot uh my favorite part of the video was at the end where he just kept uh doing catchphrases of like the t-shirt logos and shit and just like anything that they've ever said over the last like eight years uh as like
Starting point is 00:22:34 his sign off and then like you could tell like it like cut it cut away a couple times and then like you could see like he had to like stop and then like record again like as he thought of something else so i thought that was pretty funny but uh yeah i think he made a reference like oh this is like the sam sulik type of vlog and i'm like well not really it's more like a 2015 vlog because we used to do this shit and like like 10 years ago but uh it was enjoyable if you haven't watched it yet go go uh go watch it boys yeah i i like joey uh have have not watched it i got busy at work today and last couple of days. And so I haven't had a chance, but yeah, when you were describing it,
Starting point is 00:23:08 that was the first thing I thought was like, Oh, so Tanner's trying to mimic the Sam Sulik phenomenon of followers. And so he's going to copy his, his formula of a video. So hard to do that idea. No, not a bad idea, but Sam has quads quads right so that that's that's true
Starting point is 00:23:29 but but would he would he with camel lift shorts on that's that's the real question yes according to cody not only one way to find out yeah send him some camel jorts yep uh we had a quick thing i guess when we were doing our predictions uh damager had asked us if i would get a deadlift bar this year and it's funny that he said that because then somebody was like okay but did he order it this year or last year i actually ordered it on new year's eve so i yeah i boned i boned your prediction damager by by less than probably four hours i think it was like 8 a.m when i ordered it and we say that the crew doesn't have any assholes no i do have a texas deadlift bar coming
Starting point is 00:24:20 um i didn't i forgot to write in the comments that massonomic sent me but oh it was new year's no i i i do got a question for you joey with uh i will say shipping to you that was an ordeal yeah it's it's a goddamn menace is what it is. I mean, I had no idea how much, how many, like, I literally got a phone call from UPS while I was out hiking. I think it was the, it must have been the 23rd, 22nd or 23rd, because I had not put the full invoice in the UPS slip or something. I think I put it inside the package and not the outside slip or something so that was my my phone but literally got got a call on a mountain and well not a mountain a hill in the black hills and uh and i was like are you are you guys serious like it like i i put the value of of what the package is and it was 30 us dollars so this is not like this this ginormous um like luxury gift being sold but my question to you is if you were to come down
Starting point is 00:25:37 to the states and buy buy a texas power bar across the border how much more work is that for you to take it back across the border? Like, do you have to pay taxes at the border for it? You have to like, like how, how does that, how does that work? So there are rules obviously about what you can declare crossing the border.
Starting point is 00:26:00 They will track. And that's, it's the more I go, the more I'm kind of learning this. Um, if you cross same day, so like when I went to New York two days ago, I kept detailed receipts. And when we're coming back into Canada, they say anything to declare. And they ask you the typical, where'd you go? Where do you live? How long were you gone what did you buy and i was like 358 dollars worth of you know miscellaneous pantry safe groceries and alcohol how much alcohol sir
Starting point is 00:26:35 uh three containers equaling roughly two liters i'm sorry was that liquor or beer uh it's all and he they type it in but technically at, they could say, you owe us this much to bring it back. Because when you haven't been over for 24 hours, you actually have no right to bring anything back. If I go for more than 24 hours, I have $400 worth her person in my vehicle, adult or person person that I can bring back. So I could claim $400 in children's clothes for each of my children. And so if I was to just drive across the border and I've thought about it, just get shit delivered to Keith and come pick it up.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like it's a three hour drive. I do once a quarter fine who cares right sure but like the shipping on the texas deadlift bar was a hundred dollars and that doesn't include any customs or anything like that but i don't think they're shipping fast enough to get me customs i think they're shipping ground and when you ship ground you don't usually pay customs but it also just like it's it is it's a damn menace like i paid 30 in shipping for deadlift till i'm dead shirts and then an additional 30 in customs fees but i can order 200 worth of supplements from ghost it'll show up in two days and i don't pay a thing and massonomics will ship me a hundred dollars worth of t-shirts and stickers and koozies it'll take two and a half fucking weeks i don't pay a thing so i don't know sometimes it's just i think person to person also i i haven't looked at the manifest i don't know if you put cigar on
Starting point is 00:28:25 there uh that i didn't no that was i said i yeah i said you got two sunglasses sunglasses candles is usually how you want to hide cigars in shipping across the border uh but that probably would have caused a few problems as well because right yeah any any controlled substance like that so yeah shipping to me is not great and you know i got somebody trying to send me something right now and i'm like okay good luck but if you ship like ground or slow or anything like that it's usually a little better but you went ups okay because they're a career and they're not postage i think they have a few more rules that they that they were and they're and yeah they're bothering you over the manifest,
Starting point is 00:29:06 but it's because they don't want to try to near you, right? They want to make sure that everything is covered. Yeah. But it's a medic. And they didn't want to open up three layers of packaging to inspect what it was. Yeah, they just want to know, which I'm glad they didn't, because then, yeah, that candle would have made it.
Starting point is 00:29:26 No, well, that's, that's, I was also like backup plan was like, uh, I don't know what I was going to do. Drive to Canada and then ship it within,
Starting point is 00:29:35 within borders or something. I don't know. But no, I saw it got delivered. So I was like, all right, it should be good. And then I sat on it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Didn't even open it. Ne okay uh what is ig maintenance you know this announcement no no no so i had some uh a fair amount of downtime over the last week or so that's why i was just fucking around on my phone and uh i've been on my personal account i've been purging fucking people that i follow left and right that's not really what was going with this. That was just like kind of it got me in the mindset of like just trying to clean up my follow list and my follower list a little bit. So on our Instagram, the unpaid underrated one, like I was trying to go through a lot of them and like just make sure we're following crew back because we get a lot of random follows
Starting point is 00:30:18 that are just like not crew. So trying to figure out decipher whose crew and who isn't has been kind of a challenge because officially there's only like if you only have two mutuals i'm like are you crew or are you a cruise buddy that just likes our memes or something so i don't know i don't want to waste a follow back on you and like no if it's just like i mean ways to follow back just follow people no well because it was funny because like big big hot when he was starting the orange glaze he didn't he just assumed everyone that we followed back was crew so he was making highlight reels for people that followed that we followed that weren't crew at all and i just found that to be so like i don't know i just i would per i would like when we're on that
Starting point is 00:30:52 page to be like 95 crew and then just like a couple random people like not a shit ton of random people because i would just ruin the feed but anyway i when i threw up the whole who wants to be on the podcast this week or this year let me me know. Yes or no or whatever. And I had like 10 people that I didn't recognize. And I was like, who the fuck is this? And so I like I literally like copy and paste to the same text to like 20 people of like, are you crew or something to that extent? And then like, you know, verified if they were or weren't. It was funny because I did get some responses. It's like, no, but I've been thinking about doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I'm one one was like Tommy's high school buddy or something. And he was just like, was randomly following the podcast. He's like, I'm, you know, I really support the company. I just, I just haven't dived into crew. Maybe 2024 is the year. And then just like the random conversations I had with like a dozen people over a couple of days as I was trying to basically build up the Google Sheets backlog of who I want to have on the podcast, just because I don't want to go into the year and only have like 10 people because I literally had like I was down to like 10 people that I was going to ask.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So I got that build up to like 50 now. So we're damn near good for the whole year, thankfully. So I just thought that was funny that I had to like literally DM people to ask if they were crew and got mixed results on some of them. There's actually there's a few people that I randomly followed because like you posted like, oh, upcoming. And I didn't know any of those names. so i had to follow a bunch of them yes and then i was like oh i know you but like i didn't know their instagram i only knew them from discord and you know that that was pretty funny and then some of them know me already but for some reason never followed me already so i know it's funny that i joke every week that i'm like if you're listening you're already following me apparently that's just not true no it's not and i was i'm being a cynical
Starting point is 00:32:30 jerk and there were a few that i found that weren't following us either i was going through because everyone if anyone saw on the on the crew cast i kind of like deep dove all the way back to the first like when we first started it because i i kind of part of me wanted to to literally just scroll through it and look for regular names that comment a lot that haven't been that that like i haven't thought to put on the list of who i want to be a guest and then so a few people i reached out to i was like it was part of very hard to find them on instagram and then when i did we weren't following each other and i don't know it was just it was a very unique couple days of trying to sort out who crew was and try to add some more crew to the list and get all that squared away. But,
Starting point is 00:33:06 uh, yeah, that was just, it was fun. Even Steve said, yes, uh, yesterday or two days ago,
Starting point is 00:33:11 he was like, I have so many follows since being on the podcast. Good. And I was like, this is the crew effect. Yeah. And it, it,
Starting point is 00:33:19 it, it's why I always, you know, harp on people like put your damn Instagram in your Discord profile. It's so easy, and we'll all be able to network so much better. So when we actually meet each other in person, it's not awkward, because you've been friends on Instagram for a year.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah. All right. Let's rate last week's episode with Huck Finn. Full disclosure, I haven't listened to half of it yet. I got through Huck just describing what lamplighters is yeah and they're talking about the arnold i think is when i finally i one of those those either go in that order or the opposite order um but like i said all of my driving has been with children in the car and
Starting point is 00:34:00 you are not a listening to huck finn with children in your car or be listening to anything that you're required to listen to with children in your car. The first thing I did is I put it on because I had about about 15 minutes of silence driving back from New York. And I was like, oh, oh, OK, they're asleep or distracted. I'm going to put on massonomics. And as soon as it started, my my son goes, Daddy, they're talking about your podcast. What are they talking about? I was like, like anything else right now.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's funny. Oh, so five, uh, five massonomics, Jim iPod touches. There you go. I was waiting for you to say JD powers or something.
Starting point is 00:34:39 What about you Tron? What'd you think of what you've heard? Yes. Yes. I, I did listen to it. And as always, you know, uh, Hawk Finn's, uh, he's always a fun listen, man. Uh, he seems like he'd be a pretty fun guy to hang out with. Um, I myself drink quite a bit of Miller Lite. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:34:59 so I think we'd probably get along a little bit, but, uh, but yeah, no, um, did like the story about his dad's record of drinking. What was it? Was it a case or was it 30? It was a case or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah. Case case, a case from, from 8. A.M. To, to noon, a case of a PBR. Uh, that's, that's, uh, that's something. So 24 beers in my life in a day, let alone six hours. I've done it. I also fell down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:35:34 It was back in my 20s. I've done it. It's not great. No. Of course, five Massanomics iPod touches. There you you go we'll never get it right i i'm the one that coined it and i never get it right no no no they don't have actual ipod
Starting point is 00:35:56 touches there right oh they do they they had they had nanos right or did they have they had classic oh classic i think that some of them are the i think they have a plethora yeah i think it's mostly the dial which is the og right and so wasn't the ipod touch wasn't that like the first iteration right after the um the iphone came out yep and was wasn't the ipod touch the the full screen touch screen yep ipod or something poking all kinds of holes in our our bit here but yeah no we might actually have to change it we'll have to get tanner to confirm so so tanner we need we need a picture of all the ipods there and whichever one's the most dominant one is what we'll end up naming
Starting point is 00:36:39 renaming the segment i guess uh but i'll go ahead and dive right in on mine uh i've been a loyal huck fan follower and listener for years. I'm probably one of the few guys that are, you know, in crew that have listened to every single podcast that he's done on Let's Get Stupid. So to me, it was like it all kinds of mixed together, especially this week, because he Huck does Let's Get Stupid and he does his own podcast, Huck Fan Barbell Show, which, you know, is very sporadic. But when it does come out, they usually like record the night before and put it out the very next day. So both the Huck Finn Barbell show, which, you know, is very sporadic. But when it does come out, they usually like record the night before and put it out the very next day. So both the Huck's podcast came out before the Masonomics podcast. So I already listened to him on two separate
Starting point is 00:37:12 podcasts over the course of like three or four days, talk about his experience on the podcast before I even heard him on Masonomics podcast. And then I listened to the Masonomics podcast, like, I don't know, like four or five days ago, like Sunday night. So it's like, I'm drawing a blank on even half like deciphering what he said on mass economics podcast versus like all the shit i heard on the other two so uh nonetheless it's you know the boys are always good so five ipod touches from this guy and big tron do you have any kind of sponsor read for uh our our friends over mass economics should like to do for us? Well, funny you should ask, Big Keith. I do.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And actually, you know, I thought about writing my own original sponsor read, ad read, and then I thought about it was, you know, this is a podcast for crew by crew, so why not let crew speak of and describe Masonomics? And so this one is going to be back before both of your guys' time, I believe. What I did was I went in the way, way, way back machine, hearkening back to a time before Discord, well, before really anything other than Apple iTunes and podcast reviews.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So I went all the way back to episode 104, and that was aired on April 2nd, 2018, for a five-star Apple podcast review for Mathsnomics. The title of the review is, Can You Afford Not to Listen? Massonomics gives you all the information you need to know about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Also, they talk about lifting heavy things and pooping. It's a mostly decent podcast. I started listening a couple months ago and have since received a promotion at work and added multiples of pounds to all my lifts. Coincidentally, my dog has not listened to the podcast and last Monday was diagnosed with cancer.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Additionally, my wife, also not a Mastinomics listener, was diagnosed with diabetes on Tuesday. Yet here I sit, a week later, cancer and diabetes free. I'm not saying listening to Mastinomics prevents diabetes and cancer, but I'm also not saying it doesn't. It may be too late for my family, but that is no reason to put yours at risk. Hit subscribe, leave a five-star review, and force your family, friends, and pets to listen to the podcast with you. It's for their own good. Life doesn't offer the opportunity to be a hero every day. Will you squander yours? As for me, I'm heading over to the massnomics.com slash shop to purchase my wife a flex flask. Proper hydration. It's only one of the many weapons we'll be using with our upcoming war with diabetes.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And what about the dog, you ask? I think he'll be just fine. You see, we're currently listening to today's podcast as we sit at home on the couch while he recovers from his morning surgery, which was a massive success. And that was left by Nintendotron. I know that guy. Yeah. Back in April.
Starting point is 00:40:15 So, yeah. I don't know. It feels like he was he was trying a little hard on that one. That's that's classic. And that was those 2018, you said, huh? 2018. It was very long and worth it. It's too late for my family.
Starting point is 00:40:30 You know what's funny, Joey? That's exactly what Tanner said before he read it on the podcast. That's good stuff. He said, this one's really long, but it's worth it. There's a lot of innuendo jokes
Starting point is 00:40:44 from Tyler and Tommy. No, there's a there's a lot of there's a lot of upcoming comments that are going to stem from that what we just heard. But I think we're going to kick all these looky loos off and see if we can get our guest on the horn. Good idea. And then we can dive right in with that. So let's see. Everyone's kicked out. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:02 He's got everyone kicked out. So Big Tron, is that you, buddy? That is. Well, welcome to the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. Let's go ahead and dive right in. So as we just found out, you've been a loyal guy back since 2018 and before. So, you know, how did you find Mathenomics prior to that? How long have you been listening before you left that novel of a review? Well, all right.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Well, there's two stories to answer that question. The first story is, when did I first hear about Masonomics? The second story is, when did I first start actually listening? And the first story, well, when I first heard about it was, and I don't remember the year. So it was prior to 2018. Yep. But I was at a classmate of mine, her wedding. And so it was back home.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And so there was a lot of us all there. Where's home? Just where's home? Home is Aberdeen south dakota got it okay you know uh yep northeast western south dakota so i don't western northeast south um and so it was it was at the the ram coda um and uh so anybody that had the misfortune of staying there uh for jack and ginger did uh yeah i i don't think they've cleaned the the sheets since since that wedding but um uh so this was right around the time that tanner was doing all of the uh
Starting point is 00:42:41 the south dakota state Strongest Man competitions. And so we were at the reception. We were at the wedding dance. I was with a bunch of my friends, and we'd been drinking already a little bit. And Tanner came in the back door over by the bar for the wedding reception and immediately was mobbed by a bunch of fanboys. And there was a commotion in the back there. And I was looking back there and I was wondering what the heck's going on back there.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And Tanner's older sister, Starla was in my class in high school. Well, I mean, in my class since first grade. And so I was sitting at the table with Starla and we were talking and she goes, Oh,
Starting point is 00:43:23 Tanner just got back. He just won South Dakota strongest man. I think it was for the third time. And she's like, yeah, I'll like, I'll go talk to him later, but I won't be able to wade through all the fan boys to get to him.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So I'll let him bask in his glory and, and, and all that. And, and, and I was like, Oh, he's doing strong.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And that's really cool. That's, you know, that's awesome. And he won it how many times? We had a whole conversation and all that. And Starla was talking. And she said, you know, I am really proud of him.
Starting point is 00:43:54 You know, like, he is doing really great. You should go say hi to him, Tron. It would mean a lot to him if you went and talked to him, chatted him up a little bit. Him and Darren always you know loved you in high school so so I did I I wandered over there after a little while after the crowd kind of subsided around the celebrity uh of Tanner um and sidled up to him and was chatting with him and and we got to talking about you know what we're doing these days and and uh somehow the uh we got talking about like oh or you know Tanner asked me if I these days. And, and somehow the, we got talking about like, Oh, or, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:26 Tanner asked me if I was still lifting and I was like, yeah, at the time I was doing a five, three, one Jim Wendler's program. And I said, yeah, I'm doing a little bit five, three, one right now. And you know, things are going pretty good and just kind of got started back up again. I really like it. And he's like, Oh, you listen to any podcasts? And I said, yeah, you know, I listened to Jim McD's PowerCast and Tanner at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Oh, yeah. Love it. I've actually talked to Jim McD. He's a great guy. Like, yeah, like I've met him or talked to him on the phone and all that good stuff. Great guy. He's like, yeah, me and a couple other guys, we actually started our own podcast. And Jim McD was really helpful, you know know kind of showing us the ropes and explaining
Starting point is 00:45:05 what how to set things up and all that kind of stuff and again you should totally listen to it you know it's called massonomics and i said oh yeah sure sure i'll i'll download that there right away yeah yeah yeah you you got a podcast that sounds great uh you know sure you do i bet it's i bet it's really neat uh and uh and and walked away away and never looked into it again. Of course. Yep. So fast forward to 2018. And the Jim McD podcast hasn't been posted for, I think it was going on like three, four weeks or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And I was trying to figure out what the heck's going on. weeks or something like that. And I was trying to figure out what the heck's going on. So I started Googling and found a Reddit post in, I think it was a powerlifting subreddit or something. And it was, you know, massonomics breaks the news, powercast is officially over. So then I hopped on my podcast downloader uh looked up this mass anomics and found the episode and i think it was uh episode 90 let's see i got it written down here not episode 95 and uh so i downloaded that episode started listening and got the got the uh the info that the powercast was officially over and as i'm listening i'm just thinking man these guys sound like they could be local or something this is kind of crazy and i listened to about half the
Starting point is 00:46:33 podcast and turned it off and had to go walk the dog uh you know the one that got cancer um and uh came back a couple days later and was listening to the rest of the podcast. And I just kept going, man, these guys have to be like in Minnesota or North Dakota or something. Like this is crazy how familiar they all sound. And then they started talking about the state powerlifting meet in Sioux Falls and Rapid City. And I was like, okay, who the heck could this even be and then it took until Tommy dropped Tanner's full name for me to put two and two together and realize that oh this is the podcast that Tanner was talking about you know whatever two three years or whatever two years ago uh when I first heard about it so so yeah so I promptly went back and, uh, um, listened to, uh, the entire backlog,
Starting point is 00:47:29 uh, as I listened to the new episodes as they came out. And, uh, and so I think that was, uh, it was a few months later that I then, then wrote the review and I made my first, first purchase, which was an original Weekend Warrior lift shirt. It's got some age on it. I almost wore that one. This one's got some age on it. It's been washed
Starting point is 00:47:57 a few times. The lift shirt, for anyone not familiar with the Weekend Warrior term. Yep. I completely forgot about that term until The lift shirt, for anyone not familiar with the Weekend Warrior term. Yep. And I completely forgot about that term until I was going back to listen to those podcasts. Yeah, they used to drop it all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I don't think they've said it in like five years. Yeah. And because I was trying to find the text for that review that I left, because for some reason Apple doesn't have it still posted. They have the other two podcast reviews that were read that day on episode 104 for anyone who wants to go back and listen. But yeah, mine's not on there. I couldn't find it anywhere. So I had to
Starting point is 00:48:41 text Tanner and ask him if he had any texts of of that that pod of the uh that review saved anywhere and he he didn't get back to me right away but then i found it so i had to listen and transcribe and and uh get it all down so hopefully i was accurate to the the original but it might might have beenated, uh, with some of the contractions and things. No, no, I'm going to dive in here. So when I'm, when I met you in, uh, crew falls, I think I did briefly ask about kind of like, I kind of knew the story that, that when you first started listening, you didn't realize it was Tanner's podcast. And I got to get
Starting point is 00:49:20 really kick out of that. Um, so I definitely I definitely glad we touched base on that tonight. So when you did realize it was Tanner, and I know you're not a very, you're not, you literally don't because it's if you're listening from 2018 but we didn't you didn't join crew and no one in massonomics had heard from you basically up until like six months ago outside of if we heard the review read in 2018 and just didn't put it together because that was fucking eight years ago seven years ago so like i want to know like when was so from the time you left that review till the time you joined crew what what was your interactions with Tanner or Tommy or Masonomics or anything? Like did it exist? Virtually no interaction. I just,
Starting point is 00:50:11 I continued to listen. I continued to listen. And I can't remember. What was it? It was. Oh, I know how I got Tanner's's uh contact info again it was a couple summers ago it was my 20th high school reunion and i went back for that and uh darren big darren who was uh tanner's
Starting point is 00:50:42 close friend in high school. He was there. And so we were talking and Darren gave me Tanner's contact info so that I could, I could start texting him and stuff like that. And so I'd say it was about two years ago. I got that. And then I think, you know, I was still listening, never really reached out until it was the big sale, the sale.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So crazy. They should have been committed, um, that I, I just kind of decided, you know, I should, I should buy some more stuff. I like a lot of the stuff I haven't bought anything in forever. Like I should just buy a couple of t-shirts by, you know, I had my eyes eyes on a on a headband and I was like I should get some of that stuff and so then I did and then I noticed that you got 50 cents back for every purchase that you made and so when I had made my first initial purchase I think Tanner had texted me, because Darren had given me, or given Tanner my cell phone, and Tanner, you know, just texted out,
Starting point is 00:51:55 you know, oh, it's, you know, Tron Peterson, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time, you know, you know, that, that whole spiel, and so we started chatting a little bit and i saw the 50 cent thing and so then i then uh went on and proceeded to make seven individual purchases of that so that uh massonomics would pay me back three dollars and 50 cents all so that i could be texting tanner the whole time i'm making the purchases and then text the the joke of um you know uh it was it was at this it was at the I think it was the what was the text it was something like uh it was after the seventh purchase uh that Tanner realized he had inadvertently uh given uh or he had he had
Starting point is 00:52:41 inadvertently not been talking to uh his old high friend, but really a 70 million year old crustacean from the protozoa period. Loch Ness Monster. And he had inadvertently given the Loch Ness Monster $3.50. And so I did all of that just for that Loch Ness Monster joke between me and Tanner. And then because of that, I wasn't even really paying attention to the extra purchases all being entries. So then I won a bottle of ammonia. And then from there, like, then I was just cool. And so one of the purchases I made on that was the contributing member. And so because I was just looking for things to buy. Okay, so you've, you've been a supporting member a lot longer. So you've been a supporting member back, well, that would go to him back in the apple pie day to probably when it was 99 cents.
Starting point is 00:53:46 pie day too probably when it was 99 cents uh well no it was it was the so whatever that because it was just this past yeah whatever this past year was yeah when they did that big sale so that's okay did you get a card or did you do you get the patch i i did not get a card i think i got the patch yeah that makes sense yeah so yeah because everybody was talking about the card i was like i don't got a card that's that uh that's that's news you lose i want to know my number but uh but yeah no so that was were you part of crew before you got on discord then or did you kind of join discord right off the beginning because i feel like you're very nude like you unless you joined discord and you just didn't start becoming active until more recently because i don't remember seeing your name up until six months ago yeah no it was um yeah that that would have been the time that i
Starting point is 00:54:26 joined okay so it was like yeah when i got the yeah when i joined um the contributing member deal and got the discord link and all that that's that's when i jumped in gotcha and so i've never heard a call to the contributing member. We are the supporting member. We are crew. We are members that support. We don't necessarily contribute. Can I just say, though, I wanted to finish that.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Is that such a long, elaborate con to only and probably only make yourself laugh? Oh, yeah. like maybe tanner laugh but like i don't get the luck next job is there like a long-running joke that i should get let me go to the glaze search and see if he's glazed this what movie are you talking about it's from south it's so i haven't seen i i've watched south park probably has a thousand episodes now i've probably seen oh yeah 50 of them like from the beginning yeah yeah this this would have been south park like yeah back in the late 90s early yeah early 2000s yeah yeah i i don't remember what season or anything like that gotcha gotcha yeah it's it's such an elaborate contron that like yeah and and i want to get i'm going to get this out of the way early because everybody always says that I save the sappy stuff till the end.
Starting point is 00:55:49 You kind of slid in there and Tanner announced kind of who you were. And then I think, you know, like the crew has it's like it's regulars. Right. It has us like what I call the elder crew. All right. It's got the newer people that are kind of like they're not there and you just kind of like we're always there like you joined and then you just started cracking jokes and having and it was like okay he's been here the whole time even if he wasn't so like you know i don't know if that's just uh um what's the there's a word i'm looking for here uh but just like i don't know if it's a
Starting point is 00:56:27 symbol of how much you just fit in or you know how much we all fit in with each other but yeah like i don't think anybody has at risk of alienating people slid in as easy and comfortably as you because it was honestly like tron is just the great. Yeah, that is just one of those. I was just like, yeah, you're that funny. And that story solidifies what I thought about you is that you are up there on this, as I keep explaining, the silly spectrum, that there is like, silly spectrum that we're all like, you don't join Masonomics if you're not on the spectrum. But some of us are just at one end and we're just, you know, sometimes we're a menace, but we're still really like, we're sometimes we're just making each other laugh. And I think you fit right in. Yeah. I think, you know, I, I had been,
Starting point is 00:57:21 I had been listening to, the Massanomics podcasts. And I don't think I've been listening to any Unpaid Underrated podcasts yet. But it was, I think I took maybe about a day just kind of scrolling through Discord and getting a feel for everybody. and getting a feel for everybody. And before I, you know, started really kind of jumping in and sharing my thoughts and feelings and all that stuff. But I just immediately noticed that, like, I get everybody's sense of humor. Like all the jokes I see, I get. I like them.
Starting point is 00:58:01 All the comments I see, I like it. And so it was, it was, it was immediately like slipping in to, you know, uh, you know, like slipping into a, a buddy's house. Uh, when you come home for Thanksgiving that you haven't seen for a while and you, you, you pop over there and there's your buddy and a bunch of, you know, all his siblings and his mom and a bunch of your friends from high school. And there's everybody there again. And that's what it just kind of felt like popping into discord was I've
Starting point is 00:58:37 known all these people, even though I've never met any one of them, you know, because we, we, we, we have a similar sense of humor. We, we have similar interests interests and so it was it was it was just easy to to pop in and start start conversing with
Starting point is 00:58:54 everybody because it just felt it felt like you were you know felt like you were whole man that's that's yeah the only way i can really describe it. Actually, Tanner and I were talking when we were at the Crew Falls meetup. And the way I described it, and I think Tanner made the post or whatever, but it was like running into a bunch of old friends you never knew you had. And that exactly is what it was. And then when I was trying to describe what unpaid and underrated is, I said, you know, Discord is like if anybody's ever been part of a team or a group activity or, you know, whatever it would be,
Starting point is 00:59:41 whether it was sports, whether it was, you know, band or chorus or Boy Scouts or whatever, like massonomics is like the, the activity that everybody was a part of, you know? So you get to know your teammates, you get to know your, you know, your, your fellow, whatever performers or whatnot. And they said, and when I started listening to Unpaid and Underrated, it immediately made me feel like this is the bus ride home from a big game, from the concert that you just had to go perform.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And everybody is, everybody's chilled out. Like the event is over, the competition is done. And now it's just everybody relaxing for the bus ride home. it's just everybody relaxing for the bus ride home and growing up in South Dakota um our our bus rides for for sporting events and football was my senior year we had we had I think it was four away games that were over three and a half hours one way on the bus and so those bus ride homes were it was better than the locker room because you're stuck on a bus with a bunch of freshmen that you don't know. And, and, and here there are these two little freshmen sitting in front of you that are cracking jokes that you find funny. And all of a sudden you start
Starting point is 01:00:55 talking with these guys and you realize, Hey, these kids are pretty cool. And then same way with the freshmen talking with the seniors, like, oh, these guys actually find us funny or amusing or whatever. They're not bad. They're not big, bad, you know, mean, you know, people picking on people and stuff. And so that that for me, when I every time I listen to Unpaid Underrated, it's like this is the bus ride home. And Massanomics is the event. Massanomics was the game. And the great thing about unpaid underrated is massonomics is always a win so it's always a winning bus ride home it's always a great competition and everybody's in a good mood everybody's just relaxing finally chilling out
Starting point is 01:01:36 and we're just killing time until till we get home and uh and yeah and that's yeah that's that's the energy that uh that this podcast gives off and so i i think it's just what what you guys do i think is just it builds the community so so much stronger than any other podcast because if you think about it you got you've got podcasts out there like you know whatever joe rogan or you know like a big podcast where there's millions of people that all listen to the podcast and the one thing about podcasts are people get to know the podcasters because they listen to them talk so, so much. But they don't get to know anybody else that's also listening to the podcast. It's a download.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Yeah, yeah. It's a one way. And now all of a sudden, Unpaid Underrated, we get to know all the people that also listen to the podcast and like it. We get to know all the people that also listen to the podcast and like it. And all of a sudden now the conversations that you have in discord, you feel so much more familiar with everybody else that's been on unpaid underrated. And it just, it, it just, it makes the community that much more rich and, um, and just, yeah, just, just inviting and everything. So, yeah, I, I want to say like,
Starting point is 01:02:44 like this is, this is what really pushed me over the edge to, uh, to come to, uh, the December to remember, you know, crew falls event was having listened to a few people that were on unpaid and underrated. Then I got to know like, Oh, these are the people that are going to be showing up to this event. Like I'll be comfortable with these people. So I should I should come check it out and and, you know, kind of get out there again.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And and, yeah, just start interacting with people again. So so, yeah, it was. Yeah. Talk about getting a little bit sappy. No, that that makes us have that's that's the like I've heard it summed up a couple of times with that. I don't think I've ever heard it summed up like the you know, that's the bus ride home after a win. Like and just the whole way you mentioned, like just that's why you were more comfortable going to crew falls. I've been telling people that for the last eight months. That's literally paraphrase exactly why we do this. Exactly what I want. I want to just grow our community and make our community tighter and stronger. And there's 300 of us, but it's like there's only like 50 of us that are like tight. want to get that to be like 100 of us that are tight you know like that is the goal it's like every every episode that passes that we might
Starting point is 01:03:51 get a new listener like that's like a whole new world of like sub-masonomics culture that's like still relevant to masonomics if you're a fan of masonomics you could kind of get into our podcast i feel so i dig it i really appreciate how you put like all of that i didn't know where you're going with it to me it was like yeah we're all sitting around having a conversation and trond walks in we're all like oh hey man and then you just join the conversation and then one person goes who is that guy and we go who cares and like that was like kind of just like if i could explain that in a brief sentence that's kind of what it was like who cares he's great and then like you were just in with us and and yeah the the look at all the knickknacks this chicken bake restaurant sells is probably the funniest line i think i
Starting point is 01:04:34 have ever heard because you know i where i work that's keith keith buddy are these glasses your fucking personality now like are you gonna wear them every podcast mcafee now like i i dig these it's nice these are like these are like the 20 percent so i'm it's gonna let you it's gonna allow you to be able to cool down after the podcast and be able to go to sleep without it's filtering out all that blue light that would keep you awake and my my room is blue like i have like a dark blue room so i can like you know the rest of the house is tan i painted the house like a khaki tan during covid when my wife wanted to repaint the house so i was my my stipulation was like i'll repaint the house
Starting point is 01:05:18 but every single room is getting the same color so i can touch up shit easily so uh but i was like well i don't want to touch the bedroom though i want the bedroom to still be dark so it made that easy enough uh well i think we're we've probably dug into to kissing you know massonomics and and unpaid underrated butts long enough let's get to know tron a little bit uh your wife gave me i'm sorry mrs tron but i'm only going to get into like a third of what the information she gave us probably. And then Big Darren and Big Tanner gave us a couple of little tidbits. So like I always like to anything occupation wise you want to tell us about just so people kind of get to know you better. Like that's what part of this is, too, is what's your what's your profession? What has your profession been? What do you consider yourself?
Starting point is 01:06:00 You know, anything you want to talk about in your work history to kind of let us know you better? Sure. So, well, I guess to start off with, let's see, I went to college and see, I attended college for about 10 years. Graduated with a bachelor's. And yeah, so a lot of people go to college for tangents. But so I graduated with a degree in exercise physiology and health emotion. And so I am an American College of Sports Medicine certified exercise physiologist. And right now I work as a health and wellness coach for a boarding school, which I can't name, you know, agreements and stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:52 But so I do wellness programming for individual students and groups of students and also all of our staff. So kind of like the health and wellness programmer at, uh, at our, our organization. Um, so yeah, that's, that's, that's what I do currently. Nice. Nice. So does, uh, does your, uh, experience the diabetes help you, uh, at work at all with, uh, trying to, you know, knowing the signs of how to avoid this and avoid that and, you know, don't be an ass of what you eat? You know, you would think, you would think it would. So prior to working at the school that I work at, I did work at the diabetes prevention
Starting point is 01:07:34 program at a Native American reservation in South Dakota here. I did that for three years, loved it, worked with absolutely just phenomenal people. So I do have a background understanding diabetes. Now, do you think I noticed all the warning signs with my wife getting diabetes? No, no, no, I didn't. It was, it was so out of left field. No, no clue. Until she had, yeah, I mean, it was, it it was just you didn't think about it you didn't notice it and she she's a type one diabetic and so it was kind of a bizarre you know turn of events um where all of a sudden she just started losing weight and wouldn't keep weight on and was you
Starting point is 01:08:19 know not feeling good and feeling sick all the time and all that kind of stuff. And then it wasn't until she had a fasting blood sugar done where she was in the two hundreds. And she was like, Oh, you think that could just be, cause I, you know, ate a toast with jelly or something like that for breakfast. And I was like, not when it gets into two hundreds, not that that's, that's not, that's not normal. You could be up into the 100s, but 200s, that's a little abnormal. And then she had a follow-up blood sugar test done like a month later. And again, it was up into the high 200s. the high 200s. And that's when they realized that she was a diabetic, but it took them a while to figure out that she was type one diabetic
Starting point is 01:09:08 because she was in her thirties when it happened. And so it was, it's kind of a bizarre little deal. But I'd say that makes sense. I would say anybody that, anybody that I know that does anything for a living to anyone that works, they don't want to do anything related to that job when they come home, no matter what it is. So if you're observant during the day for these signs as part of your career, you are going to shut that off on your drive home and you're not going to turn it back on until you're driving to work the next day.
Starting point is 01:09:35 I know that's been like me. That's been my mentality, my entire every the different different careers I've had over the last 20 some years. It's like, yeah, I don't want to do anything remotely close to what I do at work when I get home, so don't ask me to. So I get that. And you did mention a key word here that had a little red, not a red, that triggered something that I want to segue into. You mentioned bizarre a couple times. So you want to go ahead and tell me about Bizarro Tron?
Starting point is 01:10:01 I really want to hear about Bizarro Tron as a story there I've been told about. Yeah, Bizarro Tron. I really want to hear about Bizarro Tron as a story I've been told about. Yeah, Bizarro Tron. So, well, you know, like I said, I went to college for 10 years. And I didn't graduate for a lack of ability to pass classes. it was more of a van wilder situation and and so when i when i drank or when i when i drank in college specifically i could go on some pretty epic benders and um at a certain point tron would kind of cease cease to exist and this this alternate tron would take over and uh my roommate in college used to be able to kind of tell the shift happening and uh and bizarro tron will basically just, he takes over when I black out. And he's not one to go to bed early.
Starting point is 01:11:17 So I find myself, I found myself in some precarious predicaments, things like that. One of the situations that probably comes to mind was uh been my first junior year in college uh february uh decided to walk home from the bar got a little turned around in a in a t-shirt and jeans and a beanie i walked six vials to the next closest town of Volga, South Dakota, outside of Brookings. I didn't walk there down the highway. I walked through fields, multiple barbed wire fences. That's some scars. I remember that one, I bet.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Oh, yeah. The shirt was white when I started. I'm sorry. This is really funny. Not when I ended. If I shouldn't be laughing, tell me now. He's telling the story with a smile on his face,
Starting point is 01:12:10 so we're good. But so the whole time I'm lost, I'm wandering, I'm drunk dialing people and telling them where I think I might be. And it was every direction but the direction I was going. And it was every direction, but the direction I was
Starting point is 01:12:27 going. North, south, northwest? Yeah. You know, like I thought I was walking to Sioux Falls at one point. I thought I might be, you know, almost, you know, a couple other towns around there and all that. Ended up walking down a gravel road and some guys that were out spotlighting raccoons and stuff were driving down the road and they found me. And asked me where I was headed. And I said, I'm going to Brookings. And they looked at me and they said, dude, Brookings is way the fuck that way, which is the direction I'd been walking from.
Starting point is 01:13:03 They said, we're going to Volga. We can drop you off in town at the bar. And you can hang out there and tell your friends and come pick you up. And I said, okay, great. And hopped in the pickup with them. They dropped me off. Bar was closed. So I was sitting on Main Street, again, February in South Dakota.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I don't know if you've been familiar with the breeze here oh god i'm miserable and uh finally my phone died but i had finally gotten a hold of somebody and told him i was in volga and so i'm sitting on main street in volga and some buddies come driving up in a pickup and i pull up right in front of me they hop out of the car i say tron get in let's go home i hop in the car car. I say, Tron, get in. Let's go home. I hop in the car. I look through the front windshield. There was a 24-hour laundromat that I'd been sitting in front of the whole time. Open, heated, lights all on.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Nothing. And so away we went back home. But, yeah, so Bizarro Tron's not like a violent guy or he doesn't get into fights and anything stupid like that. But he does odd, bizarre things. And then I have to figure out what he was trying to think when I come to the next day.
Starting point is 01:14:23 But Bizarro Tron hasn't come out in quite a while. That's good. I don't do things like that very often. But yeah, I hear you. I feel you. I understand you. Like New Year's, the New Year's Day, I woke up on the couch.
Starting point is 01:14:41 No pants. Yeah. And I woke up and looked at Morgangan's the hell are my pants and apparently that was like the funniest thing i've said in a long time because nobody knows i guess i went to the bed and the like the bedroom was too hot or something so i went and slept on the couch in no pants and it's just like that hasn't happened in years yeah but that's the bizarro decisions you make where you're just like this bed is too much i want to sleep on the couch and yeah i hear you man now does bizarro does bizarro tron come out sometimes where you buy gym equipment and hide it from your wife
Starting point is 01:15:26 is that is that just like you know remnant of there there may or may not be a time or two where purchases have been made that uh that i that i don't remember and then when they show up i can't quite explain them to my wife, so I may tidy those purchases away until a further time that they're more acceptably rationalized. So yeah, did she mention the Olympic rings? And kettlebells, kettlebells, kettlebells. Oh yeah, kettlebells, kettlebells, kettlebells. Yeah, kettlebells. Oh, yeah, kettlebells, kettlebells, kettlebells. Yes, yes. Yeah, so I think, yeah, the kettlebells, I had a co-worker who was getting rid of all his gym equipment. And he was a big pack fit guy, super mobility guy so he had you know uh club bells kettle bells you know like cool stuff
Starting point is 01:16:27 that you don't you know you don't you don't see often or whatever and so he had asked me like hey do you want any of my stuff and i was like yeah absolutely like i'll take whatever you got like i like all that stuff and so um so we worked that out and I, he thankfully lives, uh, about two blocks away from me. So I just popped over in the truck, loaded the truck up, uh, came home and I hit it all in the shed. And I just didn't say anything to my wife and she doesn't ever come out to the shed to see what I got going on out here so um so I I got like about no let's see like four club bells eight kettlebells uh another set of olympic rings a bunch of straps and grip gear stuff and
Starting point is 01:17:19 captain crunch uh captain crush grippers and uh all that kind of stuff and one day my wife finally did come out to the shed when the hell did you get all this stuff oh like two months ago my my yeah my thought process is if you don't catch me you know within the week you know, within the week of me purchasing it, then there's like, like the statute of limitations is now passed. All right. Like if the credit card bill has been paid,
Starting point is 01:17:52 if the credit card bill has been paid, there's, there is no, no more ramifications. You can't come after me later for that. So if you didn't notice it before it got all paid off, we're golden. Now I can use some club bells. These things are crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:14 They're kind of fun. Yeah. Kind of fun. I've just been playing around with them a little bit. Haven't got super into them. Or spend extra money on a shoulder rock, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:26 super into them or spend extra money on a shoulder rock right yeah yeah it's like uh yeah for the for the price i paid i think i gave the guy like 200 bucks for everything and oh my god and i was like yeah like he just wanted to get rid of it he was just moving on from that so he got really into tai chi so he didn't didn't uh didn't need any more resistance stuff so i was happy to help oh that's a weird pipeline i'm sure we could talk about that but oh yeah i all this stuff i don't want to do this anymore i'm gonna push air all right dude smaller footprint i guess so parent. Well, well, what he actually does is, uh, basically does dynamic static contractions. So he uses all the antagonistical muscles, uh, for any contraction that you're doing to you, you know, use your own body for the resistance.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So if you're doing bicep curl, you engage your triceps to resist the bicep and then going back down, same thing. You engage your bicep to resist your tricep extended. And so if you have really good body control and, and mind muscle connection, like you, you can maintain, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:40 a decent, you know, a functional amount of strength, but he is, he's one of those guys that, you know a functional amount of strength but uh he is he's one of those guys that you know he can hop on the rings and do the iron cross and you know do all that kind of stuff but uh but yeah no that's that's that's a lot of work and takes a lot of time and breathing and concentration and all that kind of stuff. I'd rather just, you know, lift a heavy bar. So it, but yeah, it's a lot of time and effort.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I just lift up, put it down, clean it. Yep. So speaking of, uh, you know, lifting bars and working out and all that jazz, I want to hear about the, uh, Nebraska, the Nebraska football lifting program you had on CD-ROM that made its way around school, like the clap. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Oh, God. That is my biggest, biggest regret is losing that CD. Oh, man. If I could have that today, dang it, I wish I had that. Tell the listeners what we're talking about, yeah. Yeah, okay. had that um no so what happened basically what we're talking about yeah yeah okay so back in high school um i i was getting into lifting and um my my uh my dad had gone to the university nebraska and i was a big course nebraska football fan in high school back when they were really good
Starting point is 01:21:00 um yeah you haven't commented on my on my background yet for some reason. I saw that, and I was trying to – I was going to say, that's got to be Memorial Stadium. Yeah, that's your – Yes, that's Mecca right there for the Nebraska faithful. But, no, so my dad actually found it. It was online, uh, Boyd Epley, uh, for, for 1995, Boyd Epley would send you a CD-ROM with the entire, uh, Nebraska lifting program for their football players. And it was an absolute amazing, amazing thing for, for, for 2001.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I mean, that was absolutely insane. Cause you gotta remember back then you couldn't stream video online. There, there was no streaming video on the internet. The internet was not fast enough. You couldn't stream video. And so on the CD-ROM, it had, it had off-season workout, in-season workouts. It had their metabolic circuit. It had their push-pull circuit.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And it also had all the programs that were specific to position groups. So offensive and defensive linemen had a training protocol. Running backs, linebackers had a training protocol. Cornerbacks, wide receivers, D-backs, they all had their own separate training protocol. So all you had to do was you fired up the CD-ROM, you entered in your numbers, you wanted to be, you know, you wanted the offensive line and workout. It then printed you off a four-week workout, and you just followed the numbers. And so you entered in what your current numbers were. You did it for the four weeks and then popped back the CD-ROM back in,
Starting point is 01:22:58 entering your new numbers. Next four weeks, away you went. And it was, I mean, for a bunch of kids in the middle of nowhere that you don't have any access to any real, um, you know, consistent, knowledgeable strength conditioning programming. I mean, it was life-changing and of course I didn't get it until my senior year. And so, uh, so I, I started using it my senior year, basically in season. So I had to do the in-season workouts, which were much, much more reduced. It was two days a week, much less volume, uh, very low intensity, but it was just more of maintaining
Starting point is 01:23:40 whatever you had built up to in the summer. But then where I really saw the gains was after the season was over, doing the off-season training and all that stuff, and then sharing it with all the kids. And that's what really kind of took off from there, was giving it to Darren and Tanner. And then there was a couple of offensive linemen that were a couple years older than Darren and Tanner, Brad and Doug. Those guys kind of, you know, kept it rolling for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:24:11 But I like to think that, you know, my senior year, we lost out in the third round of the playoffs. After that, the next year they went to the Dome, a state championship game. I think the next two or three years, I think they made it to the Dome. I know Tanner and Darren and those guys, I think, made it to the Dome. So I like to think that just the access to any sort of competent strength and conditioning program in high school allowed those guys to uh to to uh be successful nice yeah i remember on the gridiron within the last year or so tanner should share a either a video or a link to it being replayed but like like the 2003 or 2005 whatever it would have been like a high school state championship
Starting point is 01:24:59 um and it listed as like you know it's like 6 like six, three to two, two 15 or something, whatever it is. Uh, now I'm, I never, he, he talked about it before you guys play like seven man or nine man ball out there or something. It's not 11. Yeah. We, we, we, we play nine man football. Okay. Tell me about that at our school. I mean, we, we, we do have 11 man football in the state of South Dakota, but the smaller
Starting point is 01:25:20 two, other two state championships then, or, or so there, so everyone in like the lowest division is is is is nine man you're not so you're never going to play an 11 man team or anything and anyone yeah yeah you might you might you might play them like in an exhibition or something like that like like yeah like like like the jv teams will play like in jamborees and stuff you'll you'll play against an 11-man team. But basically with nine-man football, offense is really simple. All you do is remove two tackles. Otherwise, offense is exactly the same. So offense is really easy to transfer from 11-man to nine-man.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Defense is where it gets a little more complicated. Yeah. So you can't just, you know, take an 11-man defense and just easily transfer it to nine-man because you got to account for, yeah, it just doesn't work out the same. Yeah, so it's, it gets, most nine-man defenses, yeah, a lot of non-nine-man football defenses are going to be like a 4-2 or you know sometimes 4-3 or and there are three-man fronts and stuff like that but it just all depends on the the players that you got but uh but yeah no it's a nine man is uh it it's it's a very it it does translate well to 11 man football. So there are a lot of guys that play nine man football that can go on to college and transition to 11 man without too much difficulty because it's,
Starting point is 01:26:53 it's not so much different than, you know, I mean blocking assignments are really similar and all that kind of stuff and all that. Yeah. It's, yeah it's but it's but it's different and so basically if uh we played on uh 100 yard fields um you could play on an 80 yard field it'd be a reduced size so 80 by 40 i think um that was legal but most schools played on 100 yard field so basically nine man football you just got that much more space if you got anybody with speed and they could get the corner it was just a just track meet so um you know it a lot of our a lot of our games are pretty high scoring
Starting point is 01:27:39 for our side but uh but yeah no nine man football. Yeah. Like a bunch of my buddies. So I went to South Dakota state university and I was in the football players dorm because my roommate was thinking about walking on. Um, and so one of the jokes is always like, Oh, you guys play nine man football. You guys play three man basketball too. Um, but, uh, yeah, but, uh, but yeah, no. So that's that's that's that's nine man football in a in a nutshell it is uh so what's that sorry keith i just need to clarify something uh was that tackle
Starting point is 01:28:15 or was that eaten too much two hand touch and the twin they're gonna keep that going for they're gonna forget how many episodes it's been and then they'll just kind of like once they forget is like is this week six or seven and they're just gonna stop doing it but it's their next week will be four if they keep it up so it's been funny um so after any of these football games did you ever do anything uh actually no here's a here's was it was it uh fuck what uh what the hell was your your alter ego dare or bizarro yeah sorry do you not know what bizarro comes from no it's from superman i get it all right superman so was it was it bizarro i i hope it wasn't bizarro tron i thought it was
Starting point is 01:28:58 a good idea to steal darren's sister's car is there no that was just regular tron so uh what one one thing we did take pretty seriously in high school was uh uh none of us drank during season um that that was that was a you know we didn't drink or smoke or anything like that during season because um we never had to sign any you know uh any pledges or agreements or anything it's just we we wanted to do the best that we could and And, and so the, the culture of the, of the locker room at the time was, you know, nobody's messing around and putting the rest of the team in jeopardy for being selfish and wanting to, you know, go be stupid. So, so yeah,
Starting point is 01:29:40 so it was, it was never that, but in high school, one of the things that I did enjoy doing was messing with my classmates. And so one particular night, yes, Darren's sister had left her keys somewhere that I had access to. I can't remember why or how. that I had access to. I can't remember why or how. So anyways, I, I got her car and we were driving it around, uh, town, which is, uh, you know, uh, I think population, maybe a hundred people. Um, so you only drive around every street in town before you start repeating yourself. But, um, yeah, so I, I stole her car, um, and then picked her up in it and then with some other friends and some of her friends too
Starting point is 01:30:32 and yeah, we drove it around and anyways, I made her late getting home to make curfew and so she then wrote me a two page letter about, about how, how much it upset her that I had stolen her car and made her late for home. And then her mom and dad were super mad
Starting point is 01:30:57 and they were going to press charges for grand theft auto against me and, and all this stuff and uh and the funny thing about that was my mom kept all these boxes of random high school stuff and started like giving to me giving them to me every christmas yeah same yeah and and like so i was going through these boxes and i i found that letter i found that letter that michelle had written me. And so then I took a couple pictures of it. And I literally found it the year. It was like a couple months before our 20th reunion. And so I immediately then got to our 20th high school reunion and read it to Michelle and Darren and Michelle absolutely died laughing she was crying uh you know at listening to 17 year old self uh try to be super serious and explain to me how how serious this situation was um and and and how I just I can't steal and move her car and hide it uh anymore in the future because we'll all get into super big trouble. So, and so one of the things I ended up doing after that was another one of my good friends, Nicole, I made copies of her keys.
Starting point is 01:32:21 um, I actually got a hold of her keys, uh, at a, at a game during the like basketball game or something, drove up to Aberdeen, had copies made of the keys came back before the game was over. Um, and then I would randomly just move her car after like volleyball games,
Starting point is 01:32:40 basketball games, just a couple of spots over the other side of the parking lot. That's the best, you know, know just just randomly and for for a couple of couple of weeks nicole literally thought she was losing her mind uh because she would come out and her car would just be just two spots over and then it's slowly four spots over then slowly on the other side of the football field, you know, across the street on the, you know, and then, you know, or, or maybe, maybe, you know, parked in between a tree and some trash cans. So you can't open the doors, things like that. So, but yeah, I know that that was, that was just a, that was just senior year Trond
Starting point is 01:33:24 board and with nothing better to do. There was one I wanted to talk about, and I've got to find it for a second here. So, your middle name. Yes. Trigvy. Yes. Trigvy. Yes. And then it also says you have two brothers with very unique names as well. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:53 So what are they? All right. So my older brother is Quinn Arick. And my younger brother is Zane Anders. Damn, that's cool. So the Arik and Anders and Trigvi are all great-grandfathers on various sides. And then the first names were just names that my parents loved. were just names that my parents loved and so um i'm my see my mom's father was first generation immigrant from norway okay i was gonna say those sounded norwegian or finnish yep yep yeah and my
Starting point is 01:34:35 my dad's father was first generation from uh sweden yeah my daughter's name after my daughter's name is saga which is a very famous very popular norwegian name yeah and so um so yeah so so yeah so growing up though i was born in 1984 same yep and so there was a certain movie that came out right around that time uh starring jeff bridges uh called tron and uh so everyone just assumed that my parents were super big sci-fi fans and had named their son tron hell yeah and so my my name actually like if you were talking to a Norwegian they would read my name and it would be Trond so it would be Trond
Starting point is 01:35:29 not Trond but I grew up with no bias or anything and so it was just like oh and I just went by Trond and you'd be surprised at how many, uh, elderly people or just adults can look at that name and, and the words that they can come up with, with, with those five letters is, I mean, like actually impressive.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Uh-huh. Oh, you've seen my last name yeah yeah yes exactly and so i so like all growing up um i just i just got used to if somebody says or makes a sound that has an o sound to it i i assume they're probably talking to me. That's me now. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:36:27 it's just like, I'm looking for Joey. Yeah. That's me. Just shut up. Don't do it. That's me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:33 No. So, so yeah. Yeah. I've been, you know, I mean, most of the time you introduce yourself.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I'm yeah. I'm, I'm Tron. Nice to meet you. And Oh, nice to meet you, John, Sean.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Oh, wow. Don, Ron, Todd. One time, tron nice to meet you and oh nice to meet you john sean oh wow don ron um todd uh one time one time it was a senior year i was getting a scholarship and they it was troad hell yeah somebody had written the n funny uh and then yeah so it but uh but yeah it's just, and so I never correct people just because it takes too long. Yep. So yeah, like, because even when you do say, oh, no, it's actually Tron. And they're like, oh, John?
Starting point is 01:37:13 No, it's actually Tron. Oh, Ron? No, forget it. Yeah. Hit him with the Swedish. I'm John. Yeah. Hit him with the Trond.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Yep, the Trond. No, it's Trond. you're saying it wrong you idiot yeah so but yeah no that's the uh that's that's the name game but yeah so so all yeah both of my brothers and i we all we we had the the the rather unique names uh at at the time and so so yeah so growing up i never really had like any like crazy nicknames or anything at the time and so so yeah so growing up i never really had like any like crazy nicknames or anything because you can't get much crazier than tron so you know if if anyone had ever met me they knew they knew front so uh all right so we are rounding out almost two hours i think i want to hit you with my FMK I'll do like one maybe more
Starting point is 01:38:06 we always do an FMK and so I thought I'd do one so and I hope these don't follow I feel like you're going to know what I'm talking about with these ones so you might have to explain them to our listeners so FMK
Starting point is 01:38:24 Cohiba Alec Bradley or CAO might have to explain them to our listeners. Okay. Okay, so FMK. Cohiba, Alec Bradley, or CAO? If there's one you don't know, if there's one you don't know, we can swap it for one you do know. I mean, I've had them all.
Starting point is 01:38:46 I have not smoked very many Alec Bradleys. What? That was my Mary. Alec Bradley's my Mary. I know. I've smoked, I think, maybe one Alec Bradley. I'll change that. I've had quite a few CAOs.
Starting point is 01:39:03 I've had quite a few CAOs. Coquibas, I've had a few of each, both Cuban and their Dominican counterparts. But if I could substitute in for Alcradley because I haven't smoked a lot of them, if I could substitute in Perdomo because i have smoked quite a few of those i could i could do that so let's see well i'll answer your your three first so um let's see i'm gonna go C. I'm going to go fuck CAO, marry Alec Bradley, and kill Cohiba. And the reason is there's so many
Starting point is 01:39:56 fake Cohibas out there. I call them Pewhibas. Those are Pewhibas. They're made up of pubic hair off the floor. Yep. My buddy got a good deal on the beach i keep them in the freezer exactly yeah yeah i'm a bit of a cigar guy myself yeah exactly i bought i bought a box of cigar when i was in mexico i snuck them back
Starting point is 01:40:16 through customs and yeah you didn't sneak anything back they looked at him and said yeah this is trash so yeah so that, that would be, that would be the way I went. Cause I've had a lot of different CAO, like a lot of like their, they had like the Italian, they had like the Brazilian blend. They had some of those, like those were all really good. The one Alec Bradley I did have was, was really, really good. I don't even remember. I think it was just like the base brand.
Starting point is 01:40:51 My brother smokes largely CAOs. Those are his favorite. I'm an Alec Bradley smoker. I'm a Dominion smoker first, but Alec Bradley kind of second. And I think that you'd be kind of shocked at how much, if you've ever had some of those Dominican Nicaraguan blends that are made in America, how many of those are Alec Bradley? Are Alec Bradley. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I'm going to bring, I'll bring one for you. I think specifically when I come to Live Hard, Live Easy, called the Bootlegger. Right. So they do the Black Market. They do the Vandals. They do, like, Alec Bradley makes so many things that okay doesn't have their name alec bradley on it but then like if you just double check it is i'll fix that i think you'll i think i'll bring you a good one that because i almost wanted to do um do fmk like box cut
Starting point is 01:41:38 or box press like pig sweet like but like that, we'll be getting a little too. Yeah, it'd be a little too technical that everybody would be like. I'll bring you a box press, Alec Bradley. I'll change your mind. Excellent. Yeah, I do love box press. I do love box press. Me too, it's my favorite.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I love that box press. Box press and Robustos are, I just. I feel like it's because. That's like the perfect size for me. Like, you know, like the time to smoke the the draw everything i draw really hard when i smoke yes so and i find the box press like the box press kind of like allows it to to because it's so densely packed yeah and it just lasts a little longer yep it slows me slows me down. Yeah. So, yeah. So, I'll counter my own.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I'll give myself my own quick, really, FMK for cigars. And it would go Ashton, Perdomo, and Arturo Fuente. And so, for me, the first real cigar I ever smoked was a Perdomo Lot 23. Okay. And I just, for nostalgic purposes, loved it. Love it, love it, love it. We were at a cigar bar in Sioux Falls. I was about on my third junior year of college.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And we met this 50-year-old old nurse named mike who we all walk in the first time ever being in a cigar bar all we'd ever smoked up until then was like black and milds and swisher sweets and things like that and he yeah and he's like you guys ever smoked a cigar before we're like no he's like all right well like try this one right here. It's a Perdomo Lot 23 Corona. Start with that. Super easy, super nice, super mild. It's a great cigar. And we started doing that. And then, you know, that started a like, you know, six month relationship with Mike, the nurse from Avera and like six guys from Brookings in college. We would run into him every weekend when we went down there. And he would just keep on, oh, try this next one. You know, oh, now try Maduro. Now, oh, have you tried a Cameroon rapper before?
Starting point is 01:43:57 Oh, have you tried? And just away we went. And that was the very first one. So that'd be Mary. And that was the very first one. So that'd be Mary. Kill Arturo Fuente, just because I do love their Hemingway signature, though. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Maybe not. And I already forgot the other one that I said. So Arturo Fuente, Perdomo, and... I forgot, too. I should have been writing them down. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Still kill that one that I forgot. So, yeah. Fuck Arturo Fuente.
Starting point is 01:44:36 So, one more before we switch segments here. I want to hear... Put you on the spot. You don't have to sing it, but maybe just read a couple lines for me so did uh yeah so i i heard uh that tron redid the i'm just ken song made popular this year by the movie barbie you know and what what did you coin it and anything you'd like to share about the song you know if you want to sing us a ditty a ditty uh you know you don't have to but acapella huh
Starting point is 01:45:03 you can tell us you can honestly just tell us a story about it if you don't want to. Acapella, huh? You can honestly just tell us a story about it if you don't want to sing. That's fine, too. I can sing it. No, I don't. Well, so I shared that info with my wife because I was working on it. I'm a big weird alphan.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Yep. Love the parody song. That makes two of us. So, yeah. When I heard I'm Just Ken, Alphans. Yep. Love the parody song. That makes two of us. So when I heard I'm Just Ken, and the way it made me feel when I saw that and heard it, made me feel like I was in, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:35 in Discord. And in Crew, so I rewrote lyrics for I'm Just Ken, but it's I'm Just Crew. And wrote lyrics for I'm Just Ken, but it's I'm Just Crew. And I tried to, ran out
Starting point is 01:45:52 of time over the holiday season to get it recorded or anything, but debating, I think I'll read it to you guys. Yeah, not to put you on the spot, like if you want to have a bigger release and actually have it be a to-do later on. I'll read the lyrics, and then this. I'll put you on the spot. If you want to have a bigger release and actually have it be a to-do later on. I'll read the lyrics
Starting point is 01:46:07 and then this weekend I'll try to record it with actual background music and all that stuff. I got it saved on my phone so I can read it properly without getting in. We can put a timetable on you. You have until next Tuesday morning if you really wanted to have it match with the podcast.
Starting point is 01:46:26 But that's entirely... No pressure. If you don't put a deadline on me, I'd never get anything done. You have nine years to do college. Can you do that? That was the problem. Everybody just kept on telling me,
Starting point is 01:46:43 oh, Tron, you can do whatever you want yeah you want to switch majors you can do that okay now were you were you a full-time student that whole time do you you don't have 10 you don't have 10 full years worth of fucking debt to pay off do you because that's like it's like a million dollars so so i was i was full-time for eight years i took some time off uh about two years in there. Now I was fortunate. My parents did pay for four years of college. So I had four years of, I had, I had four years of full-time tuition that I had to pay back. Okay. Uh, but, um, and I did, uh, you know, before I, before I get into a, you know, a, a drunken, uh, serenade of the song, uh. In order to graduate college, I did finally make the decision I had to quit drinking.
Starting point is 01:47:28 So I quit drinking for two straight years. Cold to the knee, not a drop. And that was the, you know, kind of the thing that forced me to buckle down and get everything finished, you know, type deal. And so it all kind of stemmed from an article I think I read in like a Scientific American or Psychology Today. And they were talking about how your brain reacts to addictive behaviors and how it takes 18 months for your brain to fully rewire. And if you don't go fully 18 months abstaining from whatever that addictive behavior is, you don't ever fully actually recover from it. So it did take two full years.
Starting point is 01:48:19 And then after that, then I kind of eased back into drinking. And at any time, if I decide I kind of got out of hand a little bit, I drop it cold turkey, don't drink for a couple months. And it's no, I'm not missing anything. I'm not jolting for anything like that. So let's see if I can find this. I'll do an ad read. I actually just opened the ads and I was like, give them a chance to find this.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Go ahead. So we'll do one that's, you know, you just talked about how basically dropping booze kind of rescued you from, you know, being able to actually get through college. So we'll go and talk about Barbell Rescue. So at Barbell Rescue, their mission is to revolutionize barbell maintenance by providing gym owners and fitness enthusiasts with a superior cleaning solution. Their innovative 360 degree nylon cleaning brush is designed to enhance the longevity and performance of barbells. Their commitment is to ensure every barbell is in peak condition, promoting a safe, hygienic and effective training experience. Go ahead and use code unpaid to save 10% at barbell rescue. Now, I don't know if you guys know, but I got my barbell rescue.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I actually ordered one. Uh, so I've got a bear steel bar from, um, bells of steel.
Starting point is 01:49:36 And I just ordered my Texas deadlift bear steel. I actually wanted to take advantage of that, um, blemish sale, but I can't buy myself to get a zinc coated bar. I just don't. I've used coated bars and I just don't. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not Keith.
Starting point is 01:49:54 I'm not equipment guy over here. Right. I really could have saved 50 bucks, but I just have always enjoyed bare steel. So I do have that, but I will say that ordering the barbell rescue brush, trying it, you know, two or three times when,
Starting point is 01:50:10 you know what? Yeah, this will help. I'm going to do this. And you know, I think it did lead to me deciding to buy the deadlift bar as well. I was going to do that at some point anyway, but I think having a brush that helped me really take care of the things i have led to that
Starting point is 01:50:27 next level so code unpaid there guys so you you'd almost say that that that barbell rescue makes tending bar uh much easier well played that's a good nice yes so now the first time did you use it like when i first time i used it i was like a monkey trying to fuck a football yeah buddy it was awkward as shit yeah but then like the the second time wasn't much better but the third time you're probably getting the hang of it i was like using my it was like using my left hand like it was like not it didn't go well and then like you're supposed to spin the bar as you do it and i don't have the dexterity because i'm a i'm a big dumb lifter guy so i don't like have that smart so but you know once you kind of figure out don't squeeze too tight and yeah the deadlift bar be much easier to clean because the smaller diameter
Starting point is 01:51:18 uh just like the the barbell rescue itself just feels better around the skinnier shaft than the girthier shaft you You need another minute, Tron? We can just read another one. I got it. I got it. I got it. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:51:31 All right. So, all right. So this, this will be, you know, uh, released,
Starting point is 01:51:36 uh, well, I guess by Tuesday. So, or in 10 years, or in 10 years, or one of the two, I mean,
Starting point is 01:51:44 on a Tuesday in 10 years, at least. See you next Tuesday. So next Tuesday. So it's just crew. And there is a chance I might break into singing by the end, because I'll just get so into it. Go. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:51:58 All right. So anyways. All right, Joey, you talked me into it. All right. So we'll see here. Doesn't seem to matter what I do. Won't meet the guest with you. No one knows how hard I try.
Starting point is 01:52:18 Oh, I have ideas running through my brain, driving me insane. What's in Tanner's sack tonight? Will the guests spot their drink right? I'm just crew. Anywhere else I'd have best do. Is it my destiny to live and die in discord mediocrity? I'm just crew. Want to have fun and be a silly goose.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Or will I learn how to get strong, to stay strong and use my strength? Then there's a music break there. string. Then there's a music break there. And then we jump into. Is to be unpaid and underrated. What it feels like to be supported while supported. But am I not big when in discord laughing at me? Me. I know me. Then another music break. And then we go into the. Can you feel the memergy?
Starting point is 01:53:43 Feel so real mass memergy. Feels so real. Mass. Memergy. Can you feel the memergy? Feel so big. Mass. Memergy. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Two more stanzas left, guys. All right. And then it breaks back into, I'm just crew, anywhere else I'd have best do. Is it my destiny to live and die in discord mediocrity? I'm just crew, wanna have fun and be a silly goose Oh, well, I learned how to get strong To stay strong and use my strength I'm just crew and I'm enough Cause I'm great at lifting stuff
Starting point is 01:54:39 So, hey, check me out Yeah, I'm just crew I'm just crew. I'm just crew, but so are you. Joined our druthers, harkin' true. So hey, world, check us out. Yeah, we're just crew. Baby, I'm just crew. Baby, I'm just screwed.
Starting point is 01:55:09 All right. You heard the big release of the first unpaid and underrated produced song coming to the... You guys can cut this in post. Don't worry about it. Oh, that's staying there because that's hilarious. That was a solid three minutes. If you do want to have it for, if you do want it to live in, you know, either massonomics or unpaid and underrated infamy,
Starting point is 01:55:31 it does have to be 90 seconds or less for real. But for, for, for that was classic. I'm sure you can, even if it goes over, I mean, it'll obviously be, that's hysterical, but. And if you actually do record it, give us a chance to release it with you right so like if you record it you're gonna put it on instagram collaborate with us or or something because like i don't think tron i don't i don't ever post anything ever if i if i released
Starting point is 01:55:57 it i would be posting it to discord and discord only so i mean like that yeah so so if i so you're gonna prompt me to do a dance, a dance choreography thing so that I can make the video for it. Yeah, there we go. There we go. Maybe we need to, yeah,
Starting point is 01:56:13 no, that'll be too long, but yeah, no, we'll, we'll, we'll see. We'll see what I can get put together by Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:56:20 So I think that's going to be a hit. Even if you don't get a chance to put it together, I think that rendition, that live rendition was pretty damn good yeah that's really great actually especially and like you said that you're a fan of uh weird al and do you also enjoy dj cummerbund you know i have not listened to him at all but knowing that he's coming up on the podcast i'm gonna try to check out some of his stuff because give it a chance it sounds right up my alley it really is it well if you have the same sense of humor as me it's like he'll take like iron maiden mix it with beyonce and put in oh nice and every song has macho man for some reason. We haven't figured out why.
Starting point is 01:57:06 But it does. Why does every song not have Macho Man? More songs should have Macho Man, right? Yeah. The reason I'm hammering this home. Give Mrs. Elizabeth those royalties, right? Also dead. Everybody's dead. Yeah. Oh, they're all dead now.
Starting point is 01:57:24 So that was when you turned 40. Everybody's dead.'s dead yeah oh they're all dead everybody so that was when he turned 40 everybody's dead well yeah so i think i've spoken about that here before right like we're both been born in the same year there just gets to a point where every story you tell ends with so they're dead now yeah yep but i'm just hammering this home that keith does not like weird al i i i saw that in the discord i don't know i mean saw that in the Discord. I don't know. I watched it as a kid. On the silly spectrum, Keith is following at the far, the other end
Starting point is 01:57:51 of me sometimes. I definitely don't have the same sense of humor as like 80% of crew, it seems like. You're still really funny and you still really fit in. It's just like Weird Al should have been the one that we still really fit in it's just like like weird al should have been the one that we all agreed on because he's just so over the top ridiculous here's the thing
Starting point is 01:58:11 here's the thing he's gonna throw on those orange glaze shades he still has them on a couple of he's gonna he's gonna pull up a couple of weird al weird al uh youtube videos and he's gonna slowly slowly get pulled in that's more than like they'll watch the daniel radcliffe movie first and then which was also great but you need but you need to understand i know weird like yes i've seen him on mtv and vh1 like all growing up here's a thing i just have you have you seen any like like a few years ago, he released, like, an entire album just on YouTube. Did you see any of those? He's talking to you. Oh, nothing.
Starting point is 01:58:51 I mean, I know his old shit from, like, the 90s. Okay, yeah. So, like, the old stuff is pretty dated. But, like, that new, like, I can't remember how many years ago it was, but it was within the last decade, probably. It was all online. It was just released as music videos. Like, it was just it was within the last decade probably it was all online it was just released as music videos like it was just kind of dropped if you watch some of those some of those are really good aluminum foil uh yes i was absolutely that's my favorite song yeah i was tempted that
Starting point is 01:59:20 it's too political to bring up so I didn't but gosh that song is hilarious and the music video the music video was so good I'll watch it tomorrow but you have to understand so many things to get that whereas I understand
Starting point is 01:59:39 that the best type of comedy is you don't really need to understand the backstory so you need to know that the song type of comedy is you don't really need to understand the backstory so like you need to know that the song it's based on is about classism and you have to understand that he's kind of mocking the concept of that from a different perspective it's so many levels or is it just silly stupidity like he's he's genuinely a genius with comedy he's he's an extremely intelligent and he's clean comedy yeah yeah which is which is so hard to do yes i could never do it so yeah how did he start really young or is he like 70 now we don't
Starting point is 02:00:19 realize it because he started stupid young he was in his early 20s. He was in college when he first released something. The first one was Another One Rides the Bus. Oh, okay. I didn't remember that one. It was a... What do you call those?
Starting point is 02:00:39 Fucking help me out here, guys. This instrument. The squeeze box. The accordion, thank you. And it was like an accordion and like a guy doing like fart sounds with their hands to make fun of the queen. And that's fucking great. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was fantastic. So.
Starting point is 02:01:02 You guys ready to dive into a little un unpaid or underrated little game let's do it i was gonna say i don't think we have a choice i think the clock is moving us that way yeah we we've yet to hit midnight and i don't have any intention of hitting midnight on a podcast on we started 8 30 all right big tron you familiar with the game no balls we're going to the lamplighter. Just in case, if anyone's first time listening, we,
Starting point is 02:01:28 we do not play overrated or underrated. We play unpaid and underrated. Obviously unpaid is overrated because no one wants to work for free. So big Tron unpaid or underrated. I'm going to go with playing the piano or piano. Let me go. Let me go. Piano lessons.
Starting point is 02:01:43 All right. Piano lessons all right piano lessons piano lessons are um unpaid but in my case very much paid yeah i want to hear that story i was okay so so i started piano lessons when i was i think third, like end of third grade. And I love the piano. I, to this day, can still play a couple of songs on it. Pop sticks. You know, I love, I can play like a dumbed down version of the entertainer. But I hated piano lessons because I played by ear.
Starting point is 02:02:26 So I couldn't count. And so I couldn't sight read. So if I could con my teacher into playing the piece that I needed to learn for next week, I'd have it before I left the room. Well, she figured that out about after about six months. And then she would no longer ever show me any any demonstration of the songs and so it got hard I didn't like it and I I remember going to my mom I was in going into my fourth grade year and I went to my mom and I said I don't want to do piano lessons anymore well what I have to do to get out of piano lessons and my mom said well if you don't want to do piano lessons we've already paid for the whole month or we've already paid I can't
Starting point is 02:03:18 remember how long we've already paid for your piano lessons for the rest of the year or whatever. If you can come up with the money to buy out your piano lessons, you can quit. And so I was in fourth grade. I scrounged together, I think it was like 150 bucks or something for what must have been a couple of months or something like that and i did i saved every every birthday card i got i used to have to dig dandelions in our uh in our yard for like uh five cents a dandelion plant i had to count them out and all that stuff that's funny uh you know, doing, and we, we lived on a, a 10 acre,
Starting point is 02:04:05 uh, farmstead type area. So big yard, lots of chances for five cent, uh, uh, dandelions. Um,
Starting point is 02:04:14 and I, I scrounged together like 150 bucks in, uh, 1994 dollars. So that was a shit ton of money at that time. Oh yeah. Um, and I came to my mom with 150
Starting point is 02:04:25 dollars and handed it to her and she let me quit nice and uh you know talking to my mom she was like i never thought he was gonna ever be able to get the money i never i never thought like a fourth grade kid is gonna come up with 150 bucks out of nowhere that's you know no job no i i lived out out in the country so it's not gonna get a paper route and easily so it's probably like who the hell did you rob did you steal from someone exactly and i might have i might have stolen a few dollars from someone but uh but yeah so but then you know fast forward to both my brothers went to piano lessons for like i can't 10 years or something like that i'm still the only one that
Starting point is 02:05:06 sits down on the piano and plinks anything up gotcha so um looking back i wish i would have uh stuck with it and just uh you know put in the time and and done it to got got to the point where i could you know sight read music and and uh and all that kind of fun stuff. But yeah, paying for piano lessons, unpaid. Right. Moving on to my second question of the night. I'm going to go ahead and go with saunas. Unpaid or underrated sauna? Underrated.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Every kind, any kind, all kinds. Underrated. Good answer. Saunas are the best. My favorite are steam saunas. Like the dry saunas are the best. My favorite are steam saunas. Like the dry saunas are too easy. Infrared saunas, just way too easy. If you really want to like feel heat, you've got to get into a steam sauna and be breathing that humidity in and have that humidity in the air so that when you sweat, it doesn't cool anything down. It just stays and sticks on you. Um, saunas, I, I love them,
Starting point is 02:06:12 uh, probably end up building one here someday. Um, yeah, I absolutely underrated. Awesome. All right. I'm going to ask you my last one here, and then we'll hand it over to Big Joey to bring it in. So unpaid or underrated cake? Unpaid cake is trash. Agreed. Agreed. Cake is a waste of air. No.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Cake is a wasted opportunity that could have been pie that's all cake is um yeah no i do not no cake is absolutely trash uh a friend would not uh a friend once called me outron for saying i don't eat confections and they said they even that's the weirdest way i've ever heard anybody say it but i don't eat cake i don't eat cupcakes i don't eat bread i don't eat i i can eat bread like sometimes i'm trying to force myself to just you know macros and diet and fiber and stuff but like yeah none of it i don't eat any of it none of the sweets none of the cake pops none of that shit like see i can i can um i can eat an entire loaf of bread and like i can't do it even realizing it um bread is my that's my achilles heel that's my kryptonite like bread made bread is bread is dry cake to me i don't i can't understand it that's because
Starting point is 02:07:46 you're not putting enough butter on it that's all it is you put enough butter on it it's it's golden but yeah no cake it's it's just it's just a crappy transport system for for icing sugar that doesn't even taste that good yeah i'm i'm i'm a pie guy all the way if i'm gonna have a dessert i won't buy but uh yeah and the same thing with the cookies uh cookies is this nothing more than a uh wasted opportunity to eat cookie dough so i i don't eat cookies either so the kids and the wife love me because every time i get them i'm like thanks and then i just immediately hand them to them so um my wife actually for christmas made me um homemade uh beer nuts oh yeah but
Starting point is 02:08:43 she made them with like i've never made them at home. No, me either. She did. And they got like spicy maple coating. She used cashews cause they're my favorite cashews and hazelnuts. Okay. So that was like,
Starting point is 02:08:53 that's the kind of thing that if I'm going to eat like a trashy something, it's going to be that. Yep. Right. Like I'm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:03 For, uh, totally agree. Like that's my my my mindset is if i'm going to eat a bunch of empty calories it's gonna be ice cream and pie yeah you know like like this is like if i'm just wasting calories i'm going to at least eat something i enjoy yep and i'm not going to eat crappy cake and it's just that's such a waste i've been known in all fairness i've been known to be drawn into a good red velvet but that is like once a year yeah well it's gotta be like the only good
Starting point is 02:09:36 cake is either like i don't mind like an angel food cake with whipped cream frosting and fruit that is because you're just eating air so it's nothing you know it's not barely notice the texture you barely notice it and you're and you're getting fruit so basically it's kind of like a health food and custard usually like yeah yeah yep but like all the cakes with the crappy sugar frosting yeah the yeah just like that's an utter waste now if if a cake is like super dense like a like a red velvet cake and it has moisture in it it's okay it's like i all again i'll have a red velvet cake or you know something like that. Or like the... Some of the upside down cakes,
Starting point is 02:10:31 like a rhubarb upside down cake. Like that kind of thing where you're pouring cream over or whipped cream or something like that. That I can handle, but it's like a dense pound cake almost. That's okay. But traditional, regular birthday cake, wedding cake, trash. Yeah, I don't, I won't eat them. Okay, so side tangent, I know Keith doesn't want
Starting point is 02:10:52 this to go all night, but I want to ask. I just had to go to the bathroom immensely, so I was like, I was trying to, can I wait until the end of the podcast? Nope. So I don't eat pie very much either. I'm just not a dessert guy. Like, my dessert is a shot of jagger and and maybe i'll have like a handful of all dress chips but if i'm gonna well like me
Starting point is 02:11:14 some strawberry rhubarb i especially like oh absolutely especially like me some blueberry what are your top what's your mount rushmore of pies strawberry rhubarb's on there oh hell yeah definitely strawberry rhubarb lemon meringue lemon meringues on mine my grandma used to make a mean lemon meringue you'd all look forward to it every year absolutely i'm gonna go with uh wild. It's a seldom used combination and it's just like strawberry root pie. Yeah, it's tart and sweet. Only a little sweeter. Yep.
Starting point is 02:11:51 And so it's like raspberry peach is fantastic. I tend to like fruit pies, but I got to think for the Mount Rushmore, you got to go, I think you got to throw pumpkin in there just cause it's, it's, it's an American standby, like a, a, a good flavored pumpkin pie, not a, not a store-bought pumpkin pie,
Starting point is 02:12:19 not, not somebody's grandma who accidentally dumped the entire jar of nutmeg into it. But like a classic solid pumpkin pie with whipped cream. Yeah. If there's no whipped cream, the pumpkin pie is off the table. And that's probably why I don't. Not even worth eating.
Starting point is 02:12:38 I don't like whipped cream. Not even worth eating. Got to have cool whip. Oh, okay. That's probably why I don't like pumpkin pie. I just don't like whipped cream. Yep. have cool whip oh okay that's probably why i don't like pumpkin pie i just don't like whipped cream yep so then if you're if you're gonna if you're gonna say no pumpkin pie you had me on all three of those as i'd say alternative like a wild tart cherry pie so not a store-bought maraschino cherry pie if you can get like real like tart cherries wild real cherries
Starting point is 02:13:08 that you actually and all all the fruit pies should go without saying none of them are from canned fruits they need to be from actual fresh fruits fresh fruit that are then you know boiled and turned into pie filling but a a good cherry pie is top of my top of my list edges out blueberry otherwise like if cherry is not an option blueberry would be on as a canadian blueberry is obviously i'm gonna go it's a boreal fruit right and so absolutely yep okay i'm gonna make one up right there blueberry tart tart cherry right right there. You mix that up. It'll be a beautiful purple hue. It'll be, yeah, that'll be money right there. It'll make your shits nice and scary the next day.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Absolutely. Yep. Oh, yeah. Nice and smooth. Additional side tantrum. Okay, so. Tantric. Tantrum?
Starting point is 02:14:03 Tangent. Tangent, yeah. Would pumpkin pie be a thing without thanksgiving like i i don't remember the last time i had pumpkin pie outside of like november outside of thanksgiving i i can't think of it either uh that's why i was curious if like if i don't know if it would be i mean i'm trying to think like when else i mean like i've never had a pumpkin pie in the summer like i don't know't know. Occasionally you might have pumpkin pie. Because you'd have it with the harvest. You'd have it with the harvest.
Starting point is 02:14:28 And the harvest of pumpkins is in the fall. Yeah. I got to say, yeah, without Thanksgiving being the holiday. Maybe a Halloween party kind of thing. But I don't know. Even then, I don't know. Malav loves cooking with pumpkins. And I will tell you, I have never in my life eaten a chunk of pumpkin.
Starting point is 02:14:53 Because to me, they were jack-o'-lanterns. And then you threw them in the forest. Like, that was, you never. But she, like, she grows these particular little tiny pumpkins because they last forever, all winter. Yep. And she cooks with them she'll empty them out she'll slice them and she'll put them in pies and she'll put them in courtier she'll put them in shepherd's pie and i was like no pumpkin's trash it's not real food so like i think that it's part of the reason you have it when you have it it's just because
Starting point is 02:15:25 that's when the pumpkin harvest comes right the big orange pumpkins go ahead yeah i was gonna say so are you saying like if there wasn't a thanksgiving do you think the uh the pumpkin mafia would have forced some sort of fall uh holiday that pumpkin pies you gotta do something with the pumpkins masses then yeah you gotta do something with the pumpkins then yeah you gotta do something with the pumpkins the birds aren't real and the pumpkins only grow in fall yeah yeah all i'm saying is like i would have i think it just has to do with when you harvest them i had no patience and i tell her all the time pumpkins aren't food and then she sneaks it into fucking everything i eat because it is really good for you
Starting point is 02:16:06 oh yeah it's yeah insanely nutritious for you yeah and and and it mixes in with just about anything yeah i mean you grind up pumpkin and you can mix it with anything and no one's even gonna notice so it's a yeah it's it's a it's a nice way to get an extra dose of veggies in or whatever so well hold on my three oh nope okay pumpkins are still they're a fruit pumpkins are a berry we went over this in like episode one or two yeah okay so unpaid or underrated guinness is guinness is the standard i put to every craft brew stout porter dark beer that i ever drink um guinness is consistent it's to the test of time it's uh only four and a half percent alcohol it's only like 180 calories or something like that.
Starting point is 02:17:07 It's, it's, it's light barely. Yeah. It's fairly light for a beer. Really. It's sit. It's so Guinness sits on everything.
Starting point is 02:17:14 If you pour a Guinness on top of another, it'll sit on top of water. It's actually lighter than water. Lighter. I never thought that it was dark. Yep. Well, when you, when you mix a black and tan, the Guinness sits on top.
Starting point is 02:17:27 Yeah, Guinness is always and always has been, always will be my favorite beer. And, yeah, I mean, just talking about it, going to the go to the tube and, you know, things that is getting late. I do have a Guinness nightcap. Zero. I can get the camera. There we go. It's Guinness zero. It's the new Guinness non-alcoholic.
Starting point is 02:18:01 I have been interested in those. I have been interested in those. And as a self-professed Guinnessaholic, the Guinness Zeros are actually very, very good. I mean, if you're looking to cut back on your beer consumption or you're looking to whatever, Guinness Zero, as far as non-alcoholic beers go one of the best and as far as tastes the most like the beer it's trying to mimic guinness zero does a phenomenal job okay so i'll try it i'll try it for sure i gotta i have a couple friends that are really big into like nc beers and they're like you know in recovery essentially and i've they they still like partaking in you know and uh in a non-alcoholic stuff so i think she'd really like that let's uh i'll have to make that i love guinness if they yeah on my birthday i probably only drank guinness and there was about 10 of
Starting point is 02:18:55 them in two hours and but it definitely is a thing that you know i've been looking for something that doesn't taste like shit that's non-al alcoholic. So that's definitely, thank you for the recommendations. And it's, and it's honestly cheaper than a lot of the, the hop sparkling water. That's the thing that kills me. That, that hop water and like, it's like 40 bucks for a 12 pack. I'm like, what? Yeah. I will be doing that very often. I had a, I had one that was like an IPA, a non-alcoholic. And I tried one last night cause you know, yeah, I had one that was like an IPA, a non-alcoholic, and I tried one last night.
Starting point is 02:19:30 Because, you know, I had my one or three that I wanted, and then I was like, no, I got to cut back. I'm going back into the non-alcoholic. And, like, I was getting floaties in it. And I was like, eh. Ended up drinking just regular water rather than Mentos. Yeah, honestly, it was like the mental strings. But, like, at least the mental strings, I knew it was coming on these ones. Right.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Let's see, unpaid or underrated. Let's go with bourbon. I'm going to go with... I want to say bourbon is unpaid. That hurts me to say, but too many people are whiskey drinkers and just get sucked into only drinking bourbon. And they don't try any other whiskeys. So technically, you know, they they only drink the American bourbon whiskey. They don't try scotch. They don't try Canadian whiskeys. They don't try Irish whiskeys. They don't try regular non-bourbon whiskeys.
Starting point is 02:20:45 Irish whiskeys. They don't try regular, you know, non-bourbon whiskeys. And so, so yeah, I'm going to say bourbon is, as much as it kills me to say it, I'm going to say bourbon is unpaid. Yep. All right. I love me. There's, yep. There's so many other whiskeys out there that can match any flavor that you can get from bourbons from other countries with other other ingredients, other. Yeah, other other aging processes and barrel aging and all that kind of stuff that you can you can get smokiness in the bite from a bourbon from from another type of whiskey. smokiness and the bite from a bourbon from from another type of whiskey and and so yeah so if you but if you only ever say i only drink bourbon well you're you know you're missing out on uh on other opportunities in life to find something you like even better so i do i do love a good bourbon but i think you're right there's definitely other experiences and flavors
Starting point is 02:21:45 to be had yep so this brings up i think my last one all right unpaid or underrated faking food allergies yeah yeah fake anaphylactic shock uh you know uh having to go to the emergency room uh with food lodged in your throat uh all for a gag um yeah so okay like to be fair you're kind of making me look like a bad guy here no you're your wife i'm sure that's set us up yeah that's 100 for my wife yeah she um sorry his allergies real i say no yes since being with him he now eats almost everything he said he didn't when we first met don't i felt thrown under the bus on that one but but no, that was a thing. Yeah. So what, what she, what she failed to mention was the, uh, was the eight years of allergy shots, uh, I've taken since,
Starting point is 02:22:52 since we've been together, um, and how those allergy shots have, uh, actually, uh, have actually worked. Uh, when I, when I first got tested for food allergies, I was a senior in high school going off to college. And I was sitting in high school, senior year, first year senior table, first senior, well, only senior. I know, know i know i know you i know you landed for his high school it was just uh it was too it's too good to pass up yeah it was it was it was college that i really folded but anyways um so senior year of high school i'm sitting there and it was uh the 3c day you know uh chili cinnamon rolls and carrots um and I'm eating the chili like I normally do.
Starting point is 02:23:45 And all of a sudden, like my lip starts tingling and feeling kind of puffy. And then my tongue starts tingling and feeling kind of puffy. And then it's kind of starting to getting hard to breathe. Like I can't swallow and it's hard to swallow saliva and like getting really tight and all that. And I don't know what the heck was going on so i got up went to the bathroom was like drinking water and just stopped eating or whatever and uh and one of my mom's friends she was actually a nurse at a allergen doctor's clinic and when she heard that she said well you got to get trowned up there tested right away because that's that's like he could die at a restaurant you know um and so i went up there
Starting point is 02:24:31 that summer i think my senior year got tested and they did the uh the back uh skin poke test yep on everything and so i got tested for like 90 some things or whatever. Um, on the skin poke, they had the, the big react. I mean, I tested positive for all kinds of,
Starting point is 02:24:55 you know, uh, environmental allergens and all that kind of stuff. But the food ones was beans and fish. And so the bean one, they said on a scale of one to 10, uh, was an eight. Uh so the bean one, they said on a scale of 1 to 10, was an 8. The fish allergy, we don't know because it was three times the size of the bean.
Starting point is 02:25:23 So I had a dinner plate-sized welt on my back from a single pin poke with uh, with fish, uh, on it when they, uh, they did the subdural test on my forearm and they, they gave a bean, uh, serum. Uh, so it'd be, it'd be what I would get if I was going to get the allergy shot. They wanted to see how it reacted. Um, the bean, as soon as they put it in, they were going to give me nine shots of my forearm. I got to the first three done. As soon as they put the bean one in my forearm swelled up to the size of a Popeye. I couldn't feel my fingers anymore. And they had to give me a shot of epinephrine in the office.
Starting point is 02:25:57 Um, and so I had literally the fish allergy. I could be at a restaurant. And if somebody ordered fish at the table next to me, the smell of the fish would actually cause me to have anaphylactic reaction. So my throat would start closing up. I'd have to get up and leave. And so, you know, which is great when you come home from your sophomore year of high school and your mom orders fish at the table because she forgot that you're allergic um but uh then uh so yeah for about i'd say 15 years i i didn't have a single bean i didn't have any fish uh but i started doing allergy shots and did that on and off five years at a time uh two stints stints of that. Um, and then the last time I went in for testing, I had no reaction to beans and no reaction to fish. So, so then of
Starting point is 02:26:52 course, my wife who, uh, always said that the, uh, the, uh, the allergic reactions was, was just me, you know, having some psychosomatic episodes or something um she's like well now now you can eat it yeah well you could have done that all along you know you didn't you didn't need to be doing shots for the last five years to you know what she's doing to you you know what she's doing to you she made copies of your car keys and is hiding your car over the parking lot she's gaslighting she's gaslighting you like you gaslight that person when you put that to their car yeah and you can't say you didn't earn it i i deserve it 100 i deserve it 100 well the good thing yeah the good thing now
Starting point is 02:27:40 is in uh in july you and uh one one of the big Davids, UK Big David, you guys can have beans and toast together now, whereas a few years ago you wouldn't have been able to. Nope. And I will say a couple summers ago we went to Ireland. Beans for breakfast? Highly underrated, guys.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Hell yeah. I don't know what it is. It's magical. It really is. You get beans and toast and eggs and sausage and bacon. And it's the missing ingredient that you never knew wasn't there for breakfast. It blew me away. There was a time I would go to a Scottish restaurant. They don't do it anymore because now they're all mainstream.
Starting point is 02:28:29 But there's a couple Scottish restaurants in my my area and you do their scotch breakfast and you would get your beans you would get your fried tomato you would get your haggis a square sausage couple eggs and some toast and like you're like yeah this is the best like like no wonder these were the greatest warriors this is their breakfast the good news is I think you passed unpaid and underrated excellent and then just before we jump into the next thing one thing I want to call back to
Starting point is 02:28:56 there are definitely classics with the spin wheel in the massonomics gym but there are also at least two ipod touches oh nice you missed oh okay all right yeah because i said i said like i remembered the picture and i messaged tanner and i was like i think tron just called me out i want to see how well i remember stuff so we got it we got it. We got it. We were both right. There was definitely one of each.
Starting point is 02:29:27 All right. I just want to bring up something. I want to bring up my friends at Obsidian Pneumonia. Based out of Ontario, Canada, Obsidian Pneumonia has become one of the leading names in smelling salts for the lifting community, combining extra strong salts, a passion for the sport, and a silly goose marketing plan, Big Travis has become an important part of PRs in gyms across the world. From basic salts that will help a PR
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Starting point is 02:30:27 It's just the silliest shit. Um, so let me, uh, let's hit us with the last, uh, ad read there. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:30:35 I just, here I, here I made the mistake of downsizing the window and all right. So our good friends over at plates next where you can go ahead and use code unpaid to save 10% at plates next. So our good friends over at PlateSnacks, where you can go ahead and use code UNPAID to save 10% at PlateSnacks. So at PlateSnacks, their mission is to transform gyms into vibrant, personalized spaces with custom vinyl weight plate decals. They are dedicated to helping home gym owners and fitness enthusiasts
Starting point is 02:31:00 express their unique style and brand through high quality, durable, and visually striking decals for weights and weight stacks. Their goal is to inspire motivation and pride in fitness environments, making each workout not just a routine, but a fun and exciting experience. Go ahead and use code UNPAY to save 10% at PlateSnack, please. And that is one that no one's taken advantage of yet. I think I will give it another few weeks. If no one uses that code, I think I'm going to drop it from our affiliate read just to save time.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Because, you know, not getting any traction on it. There's no point in us wasting a minute every episode and just bugging you guys with it. But Barbell Rescue, I actually got a payout there the other day. It was enough to basically offset some of my sticker investments over the last year so that was kind of nice to be like oh payment i'm i'm full i'm only down a little bit of money now from this podcast so we're good we're almost broken even for our out-of-pocket investments no i bought a whole new computer yeah you got a whole fucking but you can use that you've used you i'm sure you use that computer for at least one other thing during the week or you know porn i guess in general do you use it to i'm sure you use that computer for at least one other thing during the week or you know i guess in general do you use it like no do you almost never okay i i log into this
Starting point is 02:32:10 once a week which is for this but that's on me yeah that's on me that's not on on you also have a family computer that like your kid could start using in a few years yeah i mean as soon as they have to i don't know i guess but ultimately i i'd like to describe that like plate snacks does the plate covers but they do like everything else they'll do custom banners they'll do custom like um if you have one of those like things in in the gym that is um fuck what do you call those the the stacks oh yeah they're the machine yeah the the they'll do those the plate stack on your if you have a plate-loaded pull-down or any kind of standalone machine that has a plate
Starting point is 02:32:50 stack on it, you can give them the exact measurements of it, and they'll literally put the coolest shit on it. I've seen all kinds of skulls and flames and your own personal logo. You can do all kinds of stuff like that. It's really cool. One-man show, little small company. I just want to have some crew start taking advantage logo like you can do all kinds of stuff like that so it's deep it's a really cool like one man show
Starting point is 02:33:05 little small company i just uh want to have some crew start taking advantage of it or you know we're not going to see a return on it there's no point of wasting everyone's time but i i literally you know buy stickers from him like once a quarter and and he does stickers he does custom stickers does custom banners does custom plate bumpers, yeah, we'll talk more about what they do. Like, maybe we'll dedicate a little more time than just like that kind of thing. Because I think that most of us are doing that stuff anyway. Right. Like you were literally you have an unpaid and underrated banner.
Starting point is 02:33:39 Yeah. That is our thing. I should have got one through him, but I need, I basically, I just added it to my Amazon wishlist because I could get one on Amazon for like 20 bucks, but I probably could have got one from him for 30 bucks of better quality. But I, you know, it was more of a, but yeah, anyone that has a home gym that wants to do a random custom banner, a lot of the stuff that might not even be on his website, you have to just DM him personally about it.
Starting point is 02:33:58 But like I will email him about my sticker. Like basically every, like I said, every few months I'll just email him about the stickers. Like I'll just go to the same thread. There's the same email chain that I've had for the last year and a half from like all the stickers I've bought from him. So, uh, yeah, go ahead and check out plate snacks. All right. So now next segment. Yeah. Big Tron, take it away, buddy. You've the floor is yours. What do you got for us? Well, uh, I'm going to start off with, uh, Well, I'm going to start off with some unpaid and underrated for you guys. So I've got some curated, special unpaid, underrated topics for each one of you.
Starting point is 02:34:39 Joey, I'm going to start with you first. Okay. Because I know you're a big Apple guy. So I got some Apple-specific questions for you for unpaid underrated. So unpaid or underrated, Honeycrisp apples. Hmm. Unpaid. They're actually not my favorite. yeah i i sweet yeah i prefer i actually prefer gala gala is my favorite apple this is nice and soft that was going to be the next one but okay okay
Starting point is 02:35:19 yeah yeah well there you go i jumped ahead uh. Yeah, just definitely the Honeycrisp are not even on my radar most of the times. I was a good misdirect with the apple thing. Yeah. I literally caught it. Like, if you didn't catch it, I could see his face, and I think he made a slight audible groan, because he
Starting point is 02:35:39 just doesn't like talking about work stuff, but I was just like, oh, this is going to be funny. And then he fucking threw out the apple, the fruit,'s good stuff joy maybe an apple to bury i don't fucking know yeah yeah well if you like that there's plenty more where that came from so uh next one uh granny smith granny smith apples nah too tart way too tart to eat separately now if you're going to eat those with some caramel or a little cinnamon covering but like
Starting point is 02:36:11 when I eat an apple I don't want to prepare for it I want to just take it walk away so the fact that Granny Smith needs a little help we would put it in the unpaid they're baking apples there's a
Starting point is 02:36:28 bacon uh yep next one we'll go the old tried and true red delicious red i mean it's the easiest accessible up here in ontario they're grown everywhere definitely kind of underrated because i think a lot of people are going to look at them and go oh great yeah free or delicious but like those are free apples with delicious fiber and vitamins that like doesn't taste like a butt so i'm gonna go with uh unpaid on that one no wait underrated sorry underrated all right well uh let's see I'm going to go with unpaid on that one. No, wait. Underrated. Sorry, underrated. Alright, well, let's see.
Starting point is 02:37:11 I was going to say, I know you said Gala is your favorite, so we know that's unpaid. So, what about Braeburn apples? I haven't heard of that one. You can't say I've had one. Okay, they're similar to Gala. How about Pink Lady? Haber apples. I haven't heard of that one. Yep. Can't say I've had one.
Starting point is 02:37:25 Can't say I've had one. Okay. They're similar to Gallup. How about Pink Lady? Have you had any Pink Lady apples? I have, and I can't say I remember much by them. I keep trying to convince my wife to buy them, but they're always kind of the most expensive. They are very expensive.
Starting point is 02:37:41 I don't remember the last time I ever had it. Yeah. I don't have a genuine answer for you on that one um so maybe just based on price alone they've got to be unpaid because i'm not paying that shit yeah exactly all right all right i'm gonna jump to keith now on the that that good news joey you passed you didn't even ask me about fuji or fiji because yeah that's that's yeah i mean if you want if you want yeah unpaid underrated uh fuji or fiji fiji yeah definitely those are the unpaid ones they're they're no the underrated ones those are the best ones those are those are delicious deliciousently delicious. And they're consistently reasonably priced. Yep.
Starting point is 02:38:28 They're not. Yep. They're like the Honeycrisp and the Pink Ladies are always the most expensive because they're the sweetest. Yep. And yeah, so like down here in the States, Fiji and Braeburn and gala is usually where you can you could find them on sale so all right um on to keith for unpaid underrated and uh just uh i'm gonna spin into fmk after that and the fmk will uh somewhat involve some of the unpaid underrated questions. So it's kind of a deal there.
Starting point is 02:39:07 But anyway, so Keith, I know you like oranges, an orange. So similar themed. Let's go with unpaid or underrated naval oranges. Ooh, those are the good ones. So that's going to be... I'm bad at this game. It's so weird, but on the other side of the table, it's like, which was my left and my right hand? I'm so confused.
Starting point is 02:39:32 So yeah, those are unpaid. Those are the good ones. Those are... Underrated. Yes, underrated. So it's not underrated. If it's not underrated, it's unpaid. Yes, correct. Yeah, no, that's... i don't really pay attention i mean when i buy like because how many are there multiple when i think of oranges i think of like
Starting point is 02:39:50 i don't know i guess i'm i thought we're gonna get to those yeah yeah yeah i'm just like it's just that's just like your standard typical because i'm now in my head it's like i don't think i've ever paid attention to like the brand or style of an orange yes it's just like orange orange juice just has like different flavor or different companies but yeah a stereotypical orange is money but orange is you know the worst thing is when you get that like it's not necessarily that it's ripe or rotten but it's like it's almost like a plasticky taste inside and like the little parts that should like be nice and crisp or have just like these little it's almost dry water yeah it's like almost like a pocket of water and it's like what the fuck is this little like gel capsule inside of my orange it's so gross and then it completely ruins it but uh
Starting point is 02:40:33 and you gotta think like let's see if you eat 10 oranges like three of them might be like great and the rest are kind of shitty so like in that aspect oranges in general kind of are on the ride the line but uh you know i will as a man in my culture and, you know, I have to always lean into the oranges. So, yeah, 100 percent underrated. All right. Able oranges underrated. All right. Mandarin origins.
Starting point is 02:40:58 The little guys. Yeah. So for clarification, Mandarin and Clementine, same thing or not? No. They're technically not. I'm going to say that they're... I don't know, jump ahead. I mean, they're similar enough.
Starting point is 02:41:14 Yeah, we're going to lump them together. I don't know. Was that one of your next ones? No. Clementines and Mandarin oranges are both unpaid. They can't. Yeah. Like obviously right in the line,
Starting point is 02:41:29 like they can be good. Same as oranges. But like for the most part, like I have, I have, I have better luck with an orange being more consistent than I do the Clementine or the, the,
Starting point is 02:41:38 the tangerine or whatever, but they're more, I'd like them to be better because they're easier to pack they're easy to eat for lunch but same thing it's like you you you pay 11 for this pack of oranges or clementines or whatever and you get like three good ones and like you have to time it right and it's like i'm trying to like feel them like is this good like i don't know and then it's like a week later they're fucking moldy i'm like like, oh, cool. Great. I'll just throw those away now. I literally threw away like seven out of like twelve
Starting point is 02:42:08 oranges. Yeah. Little fuckers. All right. All right. I'm pig. I need to eat my fruit faster, I guess. Next one. Blood oranges. Is that actually a fruit or is it just a flavor?
Starting point is 02:42:26 No, it's a fruit. It's a fruit. I don't think I've had one. You don't often see them in the grocery stores very often. Is it like grapefruit adjacent? I'm basing that off of the time that I've had stuff that's like a blood orange drink. It's like a super bitter orange, not like a sweet orange. Is that what I would expect
Starting point is 02:42:46 from eating a blood orange orange? I think it's a little more tart, but it's definitely sweeter than a grapefruit. Okay. I've only had them maybe one or two times where I've had an actual blood orange. I'm going to have to keep an eye out for those. I don't think I've ever seen them.
Starting point is 02:43:02 I don't know if that's a common thing to find. I'm sure you could find them at like, you know, specialty granola stores or Whole Foods or something like that. I think we have to have an entire video now of Keith trying different oranges. Absolutely. Yeah, that'll be we'll have a minute and a half video of Keith trying them and going, what, what, what? Which one is this again? He's still wearing those fucking glasses they're i'm telling you every time i take them off it like wakes me up and makes me pissed off so no like my plan is to keep these on for another 40 minutes or less and go to bed these these are gonna mellow keith out it's gonna make him a whole new person because he's
Starting point is 02:43:45 just gonna always be able to see orange and he's gonna be like he's just gonna be a more positive person a more relaxed person because everything's gonna be the color it should be for him everything is fine so everything is fine my living room used used to be a lot happier and calm in my house until I had to paint it. All right. Last two for unpaid underrated. Let's go with high pulp orange juice. The pulp. High pulp.
Starting point is 02:44:20 Yeah, so 100%. The most pulp you can get in the orange juice. So that's going to 100 un oh unpaid i don't okay i like medium pulp to like a low pulp i don't like no pulp is gross and weird and tastes like a fucking like fake sunny d that's disgusting that was gonna be the next one so yeah so that was it going to be high pulp or no pulp. Yeah. Like, oh, so there's, if I had to pick between the two, I'd go high pulp. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Versus no pulp. Okay. In a magic war, just because no pulp is, I don't know, like we have some no pulp. Like your mid-pulp. Your mid-pulp kind of guy. I want exactly 50% pulp. Even medium. Just a medium pulp.
Starting point is 02:45:03 A regular pulp. a medium pulp. All right. Good news, Keith. You passed on paid underrated. I got a banner to prove it. Yep. All right. I'm going to go with
Starting point is 02:45:18 back to Joey FMK. All right. Sticking with the Apple theme, we're going to go with FMK, Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak, Tim Cook. I mean, in reality, I don't care about any of them. Who's worth the most money that you could keep, I guess? So probably Steve Jobs, right?
Starting point is 02:45:57 Like, I think we'd marry Steve Jobs, because He's kind of an asshole, though. Yeah, but he also made sure things made sense right when you look at kind of after his death the products started doing things things that like didn't make perfect sense whereas he he kind of reined it in and he was like no we're not going to do things until they make sense so things like widgets like he didn't want to do those until they could do them the best wireless charging um you know um water resistance full screen that kind of stuff he said no until we made sure we did it better than anyone. So you might have had your Android devices launching these things, but you were getting
Starting point is 02:46:49 beta tests. You were getting a flagship device that was a beta test. Apple wasn't going to do that until he went away. Then you were getting your, well, we're going to do our pluses and our minis and our men and just like all that shit that i think i think he would have reigned in if he were still here um tim cook what i know about the dude is he's trying good for him uh so kill i guess and he's doing he's doing what he can he got handed this million he's the guy that he's he's the guy that followed the guy yeah yeah you don't ever want to be that guy you don't ever want to be that guy yeah and it's unfortunate for him because not only he's doing anything bad
Starting point is 02:47:38 but like yeah you're the michael cole to his jim ross like you're not you're the Michael Cole to his Jim Ross. You're not ever going to be that guy. You might be good at what you're doing, but you're standing in a big shadow. And I wish I could tell you fucking anything about Wozniak. I wish I could tell you anything about him off the top of my head at the moment. He was one of the founders of Apple with Steve Jobs, and he wrote a lot of the initial code design and all that kind of stuff. Is he one of the ones that fired Steve Jobs?
Starting point is 02:48:11 No, I think he had sold out. I don't know. He went on to buy a bunch of stuff up in Seattle. Yeah, the name's familiar familiar but i wish i could say anything but i die i i i think he cashed out of apple at some point but he was one of the founders of apple okay and he was he was credited with a lot of the like the hard technical um development of i know there was a i know there was a point they fired steve jobs yeah they kicked him out and then he got back in i wonder if wozniak was one
Starting point is 02:48:54 of those guys and i and i i i don't know yeah you'd think i would know but i don't so we're gonna go marry steve jobs but again like and i've also i've stood on a state at the same stage that he's been on like i've been to that place where they announced like the iphone 5c and like some of their their bigger things like i've stood on that stage and shared that space where he was before he died uh we're gonna go and and kill Wozniak, I think. And I guess that means fuck the other guy. Tim Cook.
Starting point is 02:49:32 He's doing okay stuff. Like a lot of the emotional branding. And we could go on for fucking hours how I feel about that kind of stuff because I'm very akin and aware to what that is
Starting point is 02:49:47 it is effective though so if I could say like Tim Cook is responsible for one thing it is that effective not effective the effective marketing coming out of out of Apple is probably coming from guys like him
Starting point is 02:50:02 alright good good good out of Apple is probably coming from guys like him. Alright. Good, good, good. I don't know, do you win FMK or... I did FMK. It depends on who you have to ask. You completed. You did it.
Starting point is 02:50:20 Like a Sudoku, I got through. He didn't edge it, he completed it. Alright. I'm funny, you fuckers. I got aoku. I got through. He didn't edge it. He completed it. Alright. I'm funny, you fuckers. I got a sense of humor, you bastards. You're still hearing those fucking glasses? I'm telling you. I'm here for the long haul.
Starting point is 02:50:38 We're in the PR. We're going to 1am. Do you have a running clock of when you hit record? We have to just kind of guess. We probably didn't hit record until 8.40. I was a few minutes.
Starting point is 02:50:54 We got to at least get to 11.41. I think 11.45 could be a goal. We don't have that much more to talk. I think it would be cool to go another 15 minutes and hit a little PR. Knock off. Who the fuck was our three-hour? We had the one three-hour episode.
Starting point is 02:51:07 Jen, did you have the three-hour episode? I can't remember who our three-hour was. You're going to waste more time talking about who had the largest three-hour episode. I know. Just to get there. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:51:18 So let's go to Keith FMK. Orange, the color, orange the flavor, and orange the scent. Ooh. Okay. Orange the glasses.
Starting point is 02:51:39 I'm so mad that you still have those on. It was So So Orange the color Orange the scent Color scent And orange the taste
Starting point is 02:51:55 And flavor Whichever one you kill ceases to exist Oh man You fucking suck I hate you Like it's gone forever gone from the universe the multiverse gone like because so orange like the orange the scent like the artificial scent of orange because like because we have like orange spray versus like
Starting point is 02:52:18 the smell of like a cut orange i guess would be different i think i'd have to kill the scent even though it's like it's still like top tier so like i put all three of these at like a nine to a ten on the glaze scale so it's a matter of like which one which one's like a nine a 9.0 versus which one's like a 9.2 which one's versus like yes the glaze scale only does increments of one but the keith scale does increments of fucking 0.5 so like oh but i think the scent i would say the scent is like a 9.0 okay that's that's how i'm going to do it i'm going to rank it a 9.0 a 9.5 and a 10 to like decipher the three of them that's how my brain has to work so so for for that instance so kill will be the scent at a 9.0 on the glaze scale. That leaves me with visual and taste, right?
Starting point is 02:53:10 Seeing the color and the taste. Or the color and the... Yep, color and the taste. And does the taste incorporate all artificial orange, real orange? Yep, all orange flavor tastes in all capacity. Yep, orange juice, every type of oranges. Nothing beats an orange, like I've said it before,
Starting point is 02:53:31 like an orange popsicle, like a generic orange popsicle is literally like all I would eat if I could just like pick out orange. You have somehow had a disease now that makes your brain not register apple, or not register orange flavor. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:53:48 So I guess I'd have to... So the color, I guess I'd have to fuck. And then... What? The taste, I'd have to marry. No, no, no, no. Hold on. Yeah, no. You'll never see orange again. But I can't not taste it.
Starting point is 02:54:03 You'll be able to even see it the color will i know never be there and then again if you you marry the one that took you on the most dates i like the fuck i love eating orange fucking popsicles i didn't marry the thing i like eating the most either wow you're gonna hear that that's not what i meant i don't i don't talk about other people's wives wives are off limits in every aspect of them i know i regret saying that immediately i was like this will be funny like freezing i have to explain that i hate you this is so tough i guess i know i'm gonna i'm gonna because the color still exists for other people just not me so basically oh well well let's see does it make me yeah because like
Starting point is 02:54:53 because i if you kill it people can still see orange if other people can still see orange if you kill it you just have a disease now that means you can't see it yeah you can't see it ever again or taste it i'd rather not be able to see it than i'd be able to taste it so i'm gonna i'm gonna so help me out so i'm gonna fuck i'm gonna fuck seeing it and mary eating it yeah mary tasting it yeah okay because i couldn't i'm surprised i couldn't yeah i just i really like eating fucking like orange artificial orange flavored stuff like like orange jelly beans are my fucking like my meat like I can't have a I can't go to a parlor to meet without orange jelly beans I might actually have but I got the strongman show Saturday I'm probably
Starting point is 02:55:34 gonna have to go buy some orange jelly bean well basically it's hard to you basically have to buy a fucking hundred jelly beans and I'll literally OCD pick out the 30 orange ones and throw the rest away like I've done that for the last 10 years of my life just to get a handful of orange jelly beans so yeah I'm content with that answer but it's like I'm but the scale is literally like a 9 to a 10 like it's not like all ones a fucking 6 and ones
Starting point is 02:55:55 8 and ones a 10 no they're they're all three right there so ultimately he's gonna fuck some orange socks yeah and then eat the glaze apparently yeah yeah So ultimately he's going to fuck some orange socks. Yeah. The glaze apparently. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:12 The orange glaze. You took it farther than me and I appreciate that. It's because my, my, everyone like my humor is like, like teenage boy sex humor, like, like porkies and fucking american pie and like road trip like that's what i think is funny like i don't think pretending to be mentally handicapped
Starting point is 02:56:30 is funny but i think sex comedies are fucking hysterical nobody brought that up i do because everyone thinks on my all the stuff that i don't like is like the stupid comedies so i don't know i just i always feel that i have to defend that yeah that was fun that was a challenge that was the hardest question i think i've ever been asked on this episode that actually went even even better than i thought yeah like that was definitely slopping that out for something else or something and then i was like no let's let's just roll with it because i i knew it would be hard between uh orange the color and orange the flavor. And scent is good too.
Starting point is 02:57:08 I didn't know how hard it was going to be for you. So that's even better than I anticipated. And I really like the scent. If you put scent up against 97% of other things in the world, I'd probably take the smell of orange. Because I have an orange spray that I will spray in the basement sometimes. And it's just like, sometimes and it's like peaceful. I don't know. That was well done.
Starting point is 02:57:28 And it ended with, I'm going to fuck a sock and eat it. Just the glaze. Just the glaze. He said he's just going to eat the glaze. Just the glaze. But as long as he's got the orange glasses on,
Starting point is 02:57:43 it's the orange glaze that he's eating. So it doesn't matter. All the glaze is orange. All the glaze is orange as long as he's got the orange glasses on right it's an orange glaze that he's eating so it doesn't matter all the glaze is orange all the glaze is orange as long as the glasses are on i really do i keep taking these off and it's just like it's a different world i swear to god if you wear them every podcast i am gonna start well i think it's relentless i think once i put them on i had to wear them until i go i basically i'm gonna wear these until i get in the bed and then like well i'm gonna wear them to bed be like steve just wear your equipment to bed well because you have pretty much all the lights off and just like a little accent light right oh yeah and whereas i i literally brought that up bedroom light on it it's like disgusting so
Starting point is 02:58:16 i i no longer have a candle in the bedroom um i don't know if you can see that so i bought a white noise machine that has a sunrise um alarm clock because i don't want oh nice i don't want a phone in my room anymore because i was using my phone for my alarm clock uh and for my white noise so now this thing is going to take over everything and i made it red because of unpaid and underrated and it has like 13 colors so yeah actually i'm glad you pointed that out i i'm trying to like show you guys the redness but turn off the blur particularly oh fuck that yeah that would take a lot of work then you'd see my whole room and i don't want you to see how i live standalone noise machines are the tits though like i've had a standalone noise
Starting point is 02:59:02 machine for years i take one with me on the road and i can use my phone in a pinch but it's like a different you know it's it's an app that i can't recreate the exact sound that i've slept to for the last 15 years so it's like it's hard to like you know find something that's exactly what you want to listen to yeah i want to get are you guys for uh for for sound machines are you guys brown noise fans white noise like do you differentiate between the different so i i like my white noise uh this has a pink noise option which what the fuck i've never heard that in my life yeah um i i don't mind the brown noise um but ultimately i think white noise is where i kind of it's fans just the fans now this thing also has a heartbeat simulator and that shit does it for me because that's just comforting like yeah bling blah blah blah so
Starting point is 02:59:55 yeah i'm gonna play with this thing a little more i can't get the alarm function to work properly but that's because somebody threw out my instructions while i was at work um so i still right now have a phone in my room strictly to wake me up on time but yeah i'm i'm a white noise brown noise person i've never heard the term of brown no i just i'll like i know i know my sound machine makes like just the static, like white noise sound. I listened to that for years. And I think I probably about, I don't know, seven years ago, I switched over to, it's like a consistent river.
Starting point is 03:00:32 So there's no really ebbs and flows. It's just like running water. Um, cause I think mine has like, it has the white noise, which is, I think it's technically waterfall, but it's just like, it's more of that like exact static. And then the river it's kind of static but a little bit of uh interim you know up and down but very minimal aren't those just nature noises yeah so yeah i don't have anything i guess that's like white red i'm just corresponding with yeah mine and then it has like you know ocean and thunderstorm and shit and i can't i can't
Starting point is 03:01:02 sleep to either of those you've got basic sleep noises yeah so i don't know what the fuck you're talking about with the uh yeah so i think like that yellow i don't that's a new one to me so so the different colors and noises differentiate like the the frequency or the the the tone or the pitch or whatever so like brown noise is lower tends to be lower deeper and maybe maybe uh slower you know like a truck engine whatever tempo or yeah like a truck engine yeah or like a like a really big like fan um something like that so then like white noise is more like the tv static you know the higher pitched um whatever and so like i always thought like i think pink noise is somewhere in between there. So like the pink noise is, you know, not quite as deep and low as the brown noise. But yeah, I've always found that I like the lower rumbling noises.
Starting point is 03:01:58 I like the brown noise features. the brown noise features or if it's if it's a uh naturescape you gotta have like a like a deep ocean wave you know something that's loud and low fire crackling like yeah yeah so this one has a fire crackling and if i'm gonna go and yes like the realistic noises it's going to be the fire crackling for me the the one app that i've used like a couple times I've like forgot my noisemaker or something it's kind of cool like it sucks because like the paid version is limited but like you can still you can create your own so you can add like three or four different
Starting point is 03:02:34 I mean it's like it's more naturescape than anything else it doesn't like specify fucking pink red yellow whatever the fuck but it's cool because you can like there's an orange noise you're looking it up tomorrow yeah because you can... But if there's an orange noise, you're going to be looking it up tomorrow. Yeah. Breathing it in.
Starting point is 03:02:48 You can intermingle multiple different soundscapes as well as change the volume of each one individually. So you can fine-tune and create your exact own sleep music. You know what? I think I challenge you now, Keith, to investigate the white, brown, pink. There's white, brown, pink. There's another one, too. I'm sure there's an app
Starting point is 03:03:12 for that. What do you use, Spotify or Apple Music? Spotify. Go Spotify and just white noise, brown noise. Find them because they're all on there. Roger. Get another five or ten minutes in you?
Starting point is 03:03:30 Oh yeah I got a couple of Tanner I got a couple of Tanner high school stories I haven't shared yet I don't want Tanner getting off scot-free without We got to drag his ass through the mud a little bit He's been sitting a
Starting point is 03:03:45 little unfortunately high and mighty on that that that riding too many ass horses he's got over there yeah i'm just gonna say unfortunately i don't really have any uh embarrassing stories of tanner i even uh make them up my little brother um who was a few years younger than tanner um and asked him like, you got like any funny stories or embarrassing stories about Tanner when you guys were in high school? And he was saying was, uh, no, nothing really comes to mind that I can think of that, that would be funny or embarrassing. So I got one for you.
Starting point is 03:04:19 I got, let me cut you off rudely as I, as I do sometimes. Um, so outside of seeing Tanner at the wedding, um, in 2000, call it 16. Had you seen him before crew falls last month? Nope. That's kind of cool. That's pretty neat. And you probably had been in, you probably had been in Aberdeen a handful of times for family stuff and yeah. And you just always, always pretty briefly and so so yeah but uh but yeah no i hadn't uh had not run into him personally so i got you still haven't been to the gym so you're the one you yep right i gotta i gotta i gotta do that i do have a family Christmas coming up here a couple weekends from now. So I might, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:05:08 It all depends on what the plans are. And are we going to, did we get a commitment from you for the lift hard? Because I know when I saw your crew falls, you were going to get back from the work trip on Friday or something. I'm 99% sure. Yeah, I'm saying I'm 99% sure I can be there. Nice. sure i i can be there nice um i i do have a conference that i have to go to that week but it ends um on friday at noon but it's in colorado um and so i i think i can fly back to pier and then drive up so i'd probably be be getting to Aberdeen Friday afternoon, evening
Starting point is 03:05:47 at the latest, unless for some reason we decide not to go to that conference this year. Pretty sure I'm roped into it. But I'll get there. It might not be until Saturday, but I'll get there. It might not be, might not be till Saturday, but I'll be there for sure. Worst case, we're literally going to be at the ODI.
Starting point is 03:06:12 We're going to be at the ODI. We're going to be at the ODI arena, sweating our balls off from 8am until 5pm, 6pm. I'm sure. So that'll be a good time. Literally, even if you don't get there till like,
Starting point is 03:06:22 you know, one in the afternoon or something, God forbid something happens. I don't think, I don't think you can live just a handful of hours away and, you know, miss out on it. Obviously, yeah, you can't get back from the work trip. That's one thing. But, you know, anyone listening, if even if you live four hours from Aberdeen and you don't come out just to say hi on Saturday, like you're doing yourself a disservice if you're crew. So we talk about how how fun the Arnold is.
Starting point is 03:06:46 And I was listening to Hawk and, and, and Tanner talk about how incredibly fun the Arnold is. And I started thinking to myself, like, that's where I met the Norse fitness guys. That's where I met Chris stuff. And that's where I met.
Starting point is 03:07:00 Um, I think I met, um, Dan Bell. I hung out with him for a bit. bobby thompson like all of these guys that's the arnold i think if you give the lift hard live easy a little longer it's gonna have the same feeling but for guys like us like for the unpaid and underrated for these like these guys that yeah i'm sure okay i've never won world strongest man or
Starting point is 03:07:26 anything but like you know we are all like friends and influencers in our own little realm i think that that's what you're going to get out of the lift hard live easy this year and the next year and there might be some big names huckuck Finn probably is going to show up. Right. Barefoot showed up and build fast showed up. And I asked like, where's Chris? And they were like,
Starting point is 03:07:53 we're working on it. Like he's coming. Like, it's going to be one of those things that like the Arnold is like where the big names go. But I think the lift hard, live easy is going to slowly based on what I can see imagine having 120 lifters.
Starting point is 03:08:09 I've never seen that. So, yeah. If you're in the area and you can make it, you should make it. The only thing that sucks is just like, yeah, basically imagine getting to Sioux Falls and then having to drive three hours because Sioux Falls was so much easier to get to than Aberdeen.
Starting point is 03:08:24 I've been trying to... I've been in the app with my... Because I have a gift card for one of the airlines. And I've been trying to book. And I can't book. So I'm probably going to have to walk in and book. And I don't... I'm probably...
Starting point is 03:08:41 I'm going to Sioux Falls. And if I can't get a Kruber, I'm going to rent a car. And then I am a Kruber. Yeah, I think I had just booked my, because basically my wife wanted to wait until the beginning of the year to start booking our flights. Cause I have, I have to, I have to book my, my home gym con ticket first.
Starting point is 03:08:59 Cause like that's a, that's like an $800 ticket that I got to go ahead and like get paid for and like be done with and be committed to. And then it's like, okay, now I can start thinking about lift hard, live easy. It's like, these800 ticket that I got to go ahead and get paid for and be done with and be committed to. And then it's like, okay, now I can start thinking about Live Hard, Live Easy. It's like these are the days. I know everyone's going to give me hell, but I'm leaving Sunday. I don't want to stay until Monday. I got to get back to work.
Starting point is 03:09:14 I got to get back home. I'm getting there Thursday. No matter what, I'm going to be there Thursday early. So as long as I still get my fun Thursday at Pounders. like as long as i still get my fun thursday at uh pounders if you know but i think that there's only one flight out of uh crew falls to get back where i need to be i think it's it i think it's it fuck what was it 10 or something so basically that is i won't have to leave aberdeen till seven so like it's not horrible like that means i can still like that's when i get to bed by like two get up at seven fucking hit the road that's doable so we'll see but i just i don't but the chris who i'm coming out with i don't think either of us really want to spend the extra few hundred dollars it's going
Starting point is 03:09:55 to cost to be gone from work that extra day all right i love you guys i'm calling it though roger yeah this is three hours. It's time to call it. I know you wanted to share some stories about Tanner, but like... Come to Lips on Easy and hear him in person. Yeah. You'll just have to tune in.
Starting point is 03:10:17 I do want to get... Later. Last thing I'll say, I do want this podcast, like the podcast itself, to run long enough to where we can actually interview people. And it's been like a couple of years. Like, I think that would be cool to like if we actually keep this fucking bitch running long enough to have new shit to talk about. And then it's not necessarily just an interview.
Starting point is 03:10:35 It's just a what even on the last year? Catch me up like that'll be cool. So and I think we ask you two questions and it'll go an hour and a half. We're good to go, Trond. But yeah, let's let's tron but yeah let's uh let's start let's let's bring this one in for a landing um what we're gonna be able to get big matt on uh was what he scheduled uh was there was that happening i know tron you you were you were the one well i guess that's that's that's that's why we uh that's why we went so long to show up
Starting point is 03:11:03 that makes sense i was wondering why we were all sandbagging it. Trying to make it last, but he's no show again, I guess. Well, I'll start the outro here. So obviously, we're on Instagram at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. Go ahead and follow us over there. And if you're a new follow and I don't follow you back and you are a crew, just DM me and we'll follow you back. Let us know. The website, more importantly, Nate puts a ton of work on the website. It is unpaidinternpodcast.com.
Starting point is 03:11:29 Lots of good stuff over there. You know, click the link I put in the Instagram and in Discord and go give that website some love. I'm Big Keith. You can find me at KeithHoneycutt73. Go follow my orange gym, the no wine seller. And and tron i know you're not really big on instagram do you even want people to find you just so they can follow you just so i mean there is some day you might you want to i i might not respond for a couple months uh you know like check but uh yeah yeah it's uh yeah it's it's tron peterson on instagram otherwise you guys can find me on discord that's yeah Nintendotron. And that's it.
Starting point is 03:12:08 I think he followed back the podcast. And I'm pretty sure he didn't follow back my personal page. Oh, yeah, probably not. I got a kick out of that. I was like, ah, he wasn't paying attention that day. And then Big Joey, nobody cares where Big Joey's at. So we're not going to. Like I said earlier, it fucking shocks me because like
Starting point is 03:12:26 you posted all these people that are gonna be on the podcast and i was like i don't know any of them are and it's that's my bad i guess um but yeah follow me at joey underscore m-l-e-c-z-k-o um i don't post anything interesting at all ever um But yeah, I just want to say it was awesome. Awesome meeting you, Tron, because like I know Keith had some time with you at Crew Falls. Like I said, joining the Discord was like, like just you sat down at the table and you were immediately a part of the group. And I'm so happy we had this chat. I know we didn't get to everything we wanted to cover, but that just means that we have a chance to get you back on. Yep.
Starting point is 03:13:07 And I ain't mad about that. I also don't want to go for more than three hours on a podcast. Good night, boys. We'll see you next Tuesday.

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