Unpaid And Underrated - 039 : Poops Per Episode

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Mini Action Jesus (a.k.a Big Justin). They dive into great topics like secret Massenomics tattoos, wrestling talk, The Arnold, steak dinners, and trees. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @miniactionjesus (https://www.instagram.com/miniactionjesus/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Mini Action Jesus.

and welcome back to episode 93 of the unpaid and underrated podcast we are a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith i'm here as always by my co-host here big joey yo and we are joined this week by a special guest crew, Big Justin. Why, hello there. Hello, boys. It is a Thursday. I am thirsty. I'm gonna drop, well, actually, no. I'm gonna

hop right into my drink this week as I picked up a variety pack of hop water. So this week I'm gonna go with a classic. I'm not sure if this one's supposed to just be, like, taste like water or if it's gonna taste really hoppy. I don't know. hop water. So this week I'm going to go with a classic. I'm not sure if this one's supposed to just be like taste like water or if it's going to taste really hoppy. I don't know. Hop water. I don't know how to feel about that.

Ooh, that's different. It tastes like a pine tree. And it literally says crisp, citrusy, and piney. I like this the least. I do not like classic hop water. That is an avoid. But it's drinkable. What about you, Justin?

You got anything good over there this week? Well, I have, I'm an absolute basic person, so I have a Mountain Dew Zero Major Melon in my official unofficial heavy cup. Oh, nice. The Mastinomics heavy cup? Yeah, the Mastinomics heavy cup, the one that we're all waiting for.

No, what was that? That was a Mountain Dew Zero Mega Melon. So it's like a watermelon essence Mountain Dew Zero? It kind of tastes like if you melted a Jolly Rancher and kind of just mixed it

with a little bit of extra water. Okay, I'm in. That sounds awesome. At first I was like, that sounds terrible, but that sounds great. It is very good. The problem with where I live is it's very hard to find anything that's not regular diet do or do zero, so all the cool flavors don't exist.

I got lucky. I was at a work conference, and I was like, I was at a Chicago, and I found a bunch of it, so I may have spent way too much money on soda. I love it. Yeah, that candy watermelon flavor, that's good stuff right like like i love real watermelon but that candy watermelon either love it or you don't like my wife hates it she can't stand it and i'm just like then give it to me like give me all of your candy watermelon flavors yeah um i have a new one, of course, because Morgan has opted to surprise me every week with some fucking healthy stuff.

So this is bubbled in Canada, which tells me it's like not Canadian water. That's insane. All right. So this is called Love Bite. Tart pink grapefruit and a cheeky hint of ginger with earthy juniper. Now here's the thing. I love juniper. Love juniper as a flavor,

as a smell, all of that. So let's see if this sucks because last week it sucked. No, you weren't happy last week. What is juniper? I don't think I know would know it if i smelled it um it's an evergreen plant okay so it's a it's a shrub it has blueberries uh it is the main ingredient in gin

so really yeah it is the main uh flavor profile of most gins interesting which is why gin is a northern drink right because that's where the junipers grow um the smell the smell is very earthy it's very um it's just like it just is juniper like i i can smell it right now not because i'm drinking it but because it's one of my favorite scent profiles uh this is weird this is very weird i'm definitely getting everything it says i'm getting the bite of the ginger the aftertaste of the juniper and then like when you breathe out the ginger is still up my nose so i'm gonna finish this because this is great good work morgan i'm taking these orange glasses off yeah i've i've got the the lighter ones on this week i specifically brought them into my car

because like i really do like just have that that that you know because i'm in a blue room and it's just the computer's blue and it's just like too much fucking blue so these definitely come in a clutch uh but i'd want to you know do the shout out to morgan for you for always kind of knowing what night you podcast on as a kind of a uh para uh what's what's the opposite what's uh what's the word for opposite i guess uh antonin outer bizarro yeah i guess uh whereas like my wife i tell her like i preemptively tell her you know tomorrow's thursday i'm recording tomorrow yep i remember uh that afternoon you know i'm recording tonight right and then like a half hour before the podcast i'm like all right i'm you know get ready

for the podcast she's like what god damn it what podcast when did you start a podcast it just makes me feel bad because like i know like my voice carries we're in a thousand square foot house i'll obviously keep her up like you know maybe she sleeps for a little bit of the two hours that we're here but probably not so it's like god damn it it just makes me feel bad it's like oh yeah sorry i hope you didn't want to go to bed until midnight tonight see i'm all the way out like the way our house is set up is my bedrooms are on one end the garage is on the other end and the garage is so dang small i can't even fit my prius in here and open up both doors so i just turned it into the gym so i can do everything i can i've dropped 600 pound deadlifts out here and she hasn't even noticed it in the computer room halfway across the house so it's like

i feel like i have a safe spot out here yeah that's good call can't beat that uh well in the safe spot you do have some i mean it's good that you're in a safe spot because you kind of have a little uh you know illegal shirt on you know that's a little contraband oh he has a sought after shirt that has been mentioned on like every episode that everybody's like we ask everybody a question yeah you want to tell the world what you're tell tell the world what you're wearing tonight well my overall fit here i'm starting with one of the the pinnacles of the massonomics uh shirt collection the official yeah buddy lightweight shirt so this thing right now i can't wear it in public i don't want ronnie coleman coming after me you can have them tomorrow yeah the magic you guys i've got my pizza pants on for you two

and to go with it this was a late addiction okay so for christmas i was dressed as santa for my concert so i had to get red shoes of some sort and i have gigantic feet so what did i happen to find the last pair of size 15 oh nice of the of the ursonomicsaboy. And I am babying these things because they were the last ones in size 15. And I had to size down from size 16 just so I could get a pair. But these are like my special shoes. I don't love the high top barefoot. I think that's just a realization I had to come to because I got a pair for Christmas. And that's the only reason I didn't get the Ersonomicsics um but now that the the crimson kabuki ones are back out i'm

fucking tempted let me tell you i'm tempted because those are pretty well your your dislike of them is it the all of them or is it just like for me i have the canvas ones i wear them to school every once in a while whenever i don't feel like wearing other shoes and i just don't like the canvas i like these suede ones in high top they feel like they're more giving and i don't like i sweat a little bit more in them because you know not breathable i just don't like that canvas feel i just don't like putting them on i don't like i don't like like trying to stick just don't like putting them on i don't like i don't like like trying to stick my like untying them all the way to the bottom and

loosening them and like i like the low tops because you're just like you slide your foot in maybe you got a shoe spotter right like here they're a shoehorn or whatever you whatever normies call them yeah it's a shoe spotter i'm thinking like is that like a drink is that where you put your shoe in your drink spotter light like what the fuck are you talking about no it's a shoe spotter it's uh no i know what a shoe horn i get you know to where they don't um you know so yeah personally i didn't get those but yeah those kabuki are nice and pretty i mentioned on uh when they announced them i didn't even tag them but i was like i want these but i want chris's i know he's hoarding them. And Duffin actually responded.

I didn't even have to tag him. He's like, I have been, I knew this was going to happen. The last two years at the Arnold, when I've seen Chris Duffin somewhere and I stopped to say hi, I'm always like, Hey, I'm a teacher. I look kind of goofy wearing moccasins to school. And I don't really fit in the, I can wear boots to school and

fit it either so can you make some middle ground can you give me some like ursas with a soul because like if i'm running around on concrete chasing kids i don't want to rip those souls off those the thin ones and i don't want to wear gigantic boots because i'm a shorty around guy i don't want to wear boots and shorts and you know look like i'm some park ranger or something we're good for jurassic park up here yeah well they are cargo shorts the only shorts you should wear besides shorts oh that's all i wear is cargo shorts i have uh my i have cargo shorts and cargo pants and my cargo shorts are exactly like my cargo pants which is shorter version so so i never have to like you know so like my my wallet goes in the same pocket my airpods go in

the same pocket you know everything it's uh it's got a home yeah i'm wrong i wear five inch seams cotton silkies maybe i don't know but you also have the fanny pack whereas i'm not wearing a fanny pack i have multiple fanny packs like i have more fanny packs than most people i've got like a nxt w like wb championship one that uh big eddie was the uh he was the um muse for that one i've got the tim beebs one i've got the massonomics one yeah yeah so many they're so handy uh i'm rocking out the jefferson deadlift shirt tonight and my uh some some orange shades all right nobody is shocked about the orange shades we are aware that this is you now i never actually accepted that we were recording i better should i should probably go hit okay up

here huh are you kidding me no i hope i didn't fuck anything up oh i hope you did i hope the entire beginning is just me and oh god and and minnie just pretending to talk to you oh this is the best i can't wait for that to mike doesn't work for 32 episodes and then it's so bad that'll suck so bad unless i didn't say too much except the fucking whole intro but oh that's fantastic so welcome to episode People are like Who is they talking to That's great I'm wearing

This well it's cold in my house So I'm wearing the sweater I bought at the Arnold Which was the last time I got to hang out with Justin And underneath I have the Orca Mob Shirt from Big Mike Van Wick Who we've been trying to get on the podcast but apparently he just can't get the schedule to work he's down, Masonomics is down

but I guess Mike is in bed by like 7 o'clock our time and he just can't record late at night he's gotta take a big page out of our buddy, Big, was it Welshmat who's actually literally gonna to take a day off of work to do some house directly i think he's taking a week off of work but he strategically

did it on a week that we can record with him a thursday night so he can it's like i don't know the time difference we're not big math on that uh whole figuring that out but i know it's like way way way not where he could do it during a regular business day so he literally is taking a day off essentially to be on our podcast that's what i'm gonna tell people oh yeah if he's welsh that'd be like yeah it'd be like 3 30 4 30 in the morning god is that a real time does that exist i haven't seen it since i was in my 20s i'll tell you that i'll see it when i get up for work sometimes. That's about it. I see it the day of, not the night before. So today was the big drop. The big drop.

All kinds of new stuff came out today. I know Joey had an order number. So what did you pick up? The socks, right? Because I like my black and red socks, but some black and gray socks. Those are going out socks, right? Those are fancy socks. like my black and red socks, but some black and gray socks, those are going out socks, right? Like those are, those are fancy socks.

Um, picked up the power lifter record holder shirt that, um, I didn't get the first time around. Uh, now the thing about being Canadian is I did not pick up the chicken bake shirt because nobody up here would understand it. There's like, no,

yeah, I don't see that. We don't have chicken bakes here in Canada, so nobody would understand that and it would be a waste of of my money and i'm always willing to like spend money on a joke that is funny to me but i feel like that that wouldn't be funny enough to me having to constantly explain what a chicken bake is uh there was the hat or the beanie or the toque we call them up here tobogoggan, as I call them.

And I just throw people off when I say that because that's like people, I guess, consider that a sled. And I always consider Toboggan a hat. I get it, but I've never known it was a sled. It was a hat to me. It was a beanie until I moved to New York. And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about Toboggan? I'm like, oh, that's what I called it my entire life. So it is what it is.

And the last one was the power lifter record holder a flag a flag yeah the the fleeg yeah still still no pursuit of strength flag no no no no big joey can go f himself uh so i i guess i didn't because i i thought you had a typo when you said you bought the shirt and i was like do you mean the flag so they they released the flag and they re-released the shirt yeah they restocked the shirt okay okay i just didn't get it the first time it was around gotcha i didn't register they restocked it so that's good that's cool to know no i don't have any more room for for like random flags right i actually had to take one down because we moved all the plants from outside into the basement so if i'm gonna get one it's

got to be one i desperately really want and that is the pursuit of strength one yeah i think i think going forward i'm pretty much a banner only guy um i actually have probably dm tanner if there's any specific ones i want made into banners if we can like figure that out specifically because i don't know like every time i put a flag just don't stick to my wall very well and anytime i'm like have a fan on them down here they like the, the flags come off the wall easier and quicker than a banner does, like a vinyl banner. So I'm probably not going to be picking up any flags anytime soon compared to what I already have. But yeah, I didn't partake in this drop yet.

I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to get the chicken back shirt. It's so niche. I'm already so niche that do do i it's like same like even though we have chicken bakes like i'm gonna have to explain that shirt and talk to people i don't want to talk to people about my shirt like i don't know it's funny it really is i get it i just i don't know i i think it'll do well i just i don't know that i'm a buyer but you know we'll once everyone starts getting their feedback once they get it and we can figure out what size blankets on, uh,

you know, which, which one that they chose out of all the millions of options of blanks that they get presented with from the distributor, you know, then I might be able to make a decision. It's the same blank. We love you, Tanner. Yeah. Like I was looking at that and I'm, and and i i'm in an unfortunate position when it comes to buying clothes from anywhere being that uh i am a very large person um like large enough that two years ago i took a picture with dan bell and then i went back and i looked at that picture and i

realized i'm like three inches taller than dan bell and i looked significantly fatter than him and i was like well so i usually don't fit in the socks anywhere because i have size 15 size 16 feet hats are tough too because i got a big old fat head like whenever i needed a motorcycle helmet i had to like go through four different companies to find a company that can make one for me back in the day so i was like though i guess no i don't know if i have to try the hat on i'll have to try the hat on first before i i love hats i have a collection of hats and um i just gotta wait to try it on i guess the chicken bake shirt though this is a big rub for me okay guys as much as i hear that red robin does not exist i have never once seen a costco and i live in the midwest

so i'm not sure they exist i've seen more red robins than i have seen costco's i've never been in a red robin but i've also never been in a costco so well at the canadian costco yeah yeah yeah i might be there a lot now we around here we got sam's club we give all of our money to another faceless organization they're the same organization well technically yeah but they still have the giant hot dogs and i love the hot dogs so i've never seen a costco chicken bacon person as far as i know it's all just ai generated images okay taylor swift i think the biggest thing i took away from that was that you've been past red robins and never chose to go in and you're bigger than damn bell how's that happened have

you never had red robin red robin's decent i have been by it but i'm the kind of person that i will spend good money on good food but if i go past a place that advertises as we sell burgers and i'm like yeah and so does mcdonald's and i can get like six mcdoubles for the price of your burger and i'm like yeah i i've i've never been the price of your burger. And I'm like, yep. I've never been the kind of person that would want to go to like a Ruth Chris and spend $180 on a steak when I can go to Texas Roadhouse

and get a reasonable steak that's not great, but it's not awful. Yeah, like the couple times I've had like $80, $100 steaks, I'm like, this sucks. This isn't good. Like, I don't know. So I definitely relate to that.

But yeah, no, Red Robin is, I don't know. Like you have to go out with family and stuff. So it's like, I don't do, do I, do I go to Red Robin by myself? No. Do I, you know, my wife and I go to Red Robin maybe once a year. Like if her parents want to go to eat with us and there's one kind of like right in between where we live and where they live. It's like one of like the three restaurants that we pick to go to because like everyone can

find something they want there kind of and no one like gets pissy yeah but i i where our red robin is nearby where i grew up was uh right next to a five guys when i first looked down there and i'm looking at it and i'm going five guys are red robin okay and that's when i decided i hate that's gonna be another controversial thing i hate five guys or Red Robin? Okay. And that's when I decided that's going to be another controversial thing. I hate five guys. Ooh. I went in there. I got two double cheeseburgers and fries.

And this was like 2007. That's a lot of food. And it was like $26 back then. And I went, is this better than any other place I've been to? No. Is it way greasier? Yeah, pretty much.

Cause I mean, I walked out to my car to eat in the car cause it was full inside. By the time I got to the car, my fries were already cold and I was so sad cause I had been hyped up on those fries for years and I just never went back. It was like that with like, you get crossed once and you're like, Nope,

never do it again. All right. I take everything. Well, okay. So I don't, I was trying to convince you to try a red Robin at this point. I'd rather convince you to try five guys again, as in like, as a grown,

as a more of an adult that actually like go, go when they're not so busy and you can sit there. Like, I don't know. Like I like, I, I didn't, I haven't experienced five guys until like maybe three years ago, two years ago. And I was like, Ooh, this is where's it been all my life. Like, yeah, but it's basically like, it's better fast food. It's like cost 20% more, but it's just less, I don't know, less shitty clientele, I guess. I don't know. We've got one up here called burger priest. They're out of Toronto. Yeah. They're out of Toronto and they spread out,

uh, around, uh, and then they're, they're pretty damn delicious. I think it's like our version of five guys. There's a couple of five guys up here here but i've never been because when i want a hamburger i'm going to like not a fast food place like i'm going to a burger place um so can't really say that burger priest has a really funny one where um somebody left a negative review about not getting enough napkins so the owner of burger priest did the alan iverson what are we talking about napkins we're not talking about the burger or the fries we're talking about napkins he did the entire was that alan iverson yeah uh no well yes it was him but like yeah that did the practice yeah i was thinking of jim jim moore because jim moore did playoffs playoffs but yeah alan

iverson did practice yeah so he did the entire practice speech but napkins in response to this person's review and then i was like you're getting money at some point from me that's the funniest thing i've ever seen well my my segway's a little bit late now but speaking of five guys let's go ahead and rate last week's episode since it was uh two hosts and three guests so uh five that's really good it was it would have been guests. So five. That's really good. It was. It would have been so much better if the most recent thing we said was five guys.

No, no. Either way, that was a really good segue and joke. I'm glad you finally hit record. I'm glad you joined us. Do you smell any popcorn over there, Joey? So last week's episode, it was the two crew and the crew adjacent gentleman that had partaken in the week of chicken bake challenge. I still can't believe they got not one, but three people to do that.

I couldn't do that to my body. It would hurt so bad. I couldn't take it. I think it was Grayson. It was the guy that i who what was the non-crew's name i can't remember that guy's name but uh he was the one that just kept talking about like not having like simple sugars and like fruit and stuff i was like yeah like i like the the lack of her like i i can definitely eat the same thing like i literally

fucking cold chicken every day as everyone always knows and jokes about but like i gotta have something different for breakfast i gotta have something different for dinner like i can't eat the same thing three days three times a day for seven days i would have i would think i would have had i would have had an issue i would have taken time off because i would have been like super on edge like i would have told customers to go fuck themselves or something that would have been like so like a sugar deprived okay so what's your rating yeah so so all in all yeah obviously i can kind of uh basically the uh we can kind of combine it because the youtube video was essentially just like clips of the podcast so that was uh you know basically this would be a combo of both of those hidden on them

so you know since i really don't love chicken bakes as much as everybody else i think i might have to oh what am i going to give it this week? I think I was talking about the five mass nomics jam iPod touches, but only because there was some crew involved in the episode. What about you, Manny? Well, since I don't know if the chicken banks are real,

that's a tough start. But being willing to put your body at the whim of something that gets served wrapped in foil from a mass grocery store, you got to give them some props, though. It's like being the first monkey in space, except there's three of them. And they all made it back. None of them burned up. So that's good.

And normally, the way I would rate mass economics podcast is entirely based on how many people are on the podcast. So with Tommy Tanner and a guest, it's only a three, but I would say this week, because there were three guests that has to make it a five has to be a five. Love it. Love it.

That's a good rating. We'll go, we'll get a big, big, big Kevin to add that's for the spreadsheet this week. Um, I did not get through the youtube video because uh i was trying desperately to nap before recording today because as we all know i am tired of shit but i

did get to listen to last week's episode i really want to give them big ups right like like big ups to massonomics for doing what we did over the past five episodes in one episode by talking about three people's poops compared to us talking about one person's poop per episode so just from general how many poops did you talk about per episode they beat us yeah they they beat us um so that's gonna get them five massonomics ipod touches it's a good one that's uh i i did enjoy like i didn't catch the video uh because usually i'll i'll listen live on sunday or i'll listen to it as soon as it drops sunday just like i'm you know just playing video games or something but uh i wasn't able to this week so i didn't actually see what they were wearing on the episode until like today's youtube

and like oh they were both wearing brown shirts i just gotta so i gotta chuckle to them both wearing brown shirts and then talking about shit for two hours so i gotta kick out of that yeah um also um when they were talking about the nude youtube videos potentially including crew oh yeah and i was like oh stealing our stuff again i was totally kidding but i think you could kind of hear tanner get frustrated that he't like, he couldn't tell us more because he's like, as soon as I said it, like I could, I could kind of see him go like Joey was like,

I want to defend against that. But if I do, I'll tell you everything like that. I thought that was really funny. I was kidding. I don't, it's what we're here for, right?

Like we are a crew, we are unpaid interns. We give them content. That's, that's fine. But I thought that was really funny just to see him do like i wish i could tell you more to defend myself that was pretty funny yeah i felt that they they they played that really close to the chest uh they didn't they didn't make any you know they didn't tell a shit when we did the live recording yeah

uh there was like nothing they didn't well they gave us the socks no was the socks did it yeah they gave us the socks and the beanie, but then they like really built the other two up to be like, you know, huge things. I mean, they were still pretty cool, but I was just like,

oh, I don't know. I was, uh, oh no, I really enjoyed it. But they, usually they,

they, they do tease us a little bit more and I, you know, like have it like blurred in the background kind of or something, but they just, they didn't, uh, I don't know.

They're, they're playing their hand closer to their chest this year i made that joke in the discord during the recording when i was like tanner's like oh we're gonna reveal the drop and then revealed nothing yeah and then they can i mean what what if you go back like four or five podcasts and they've just been sneaking in like little tiny snippets here and there like half a word you got to put it all together like it's some uh conspiracy theory it's it's possible i don't i don't have another 12 hours to go back and listen to last month's episodes currently but maybe maybe someone does um we had some mole we had you know we had we had the two moles uh on uh unveiled this week so it was that it was

big jeff and then big uh oh i was just talking to him a second ago what the heck is this one of the uh one of the lukes right yeah one of the lukes which i don't think i've had much conversation with him prior or well even like i just i was like i know that guy but i can't i can't like i don't know he wasn't as familiar as i thought i guess i was like oh okay that guy yes yeah that guy uh but i'm not didn't do we did we get context on that i mean other than like yeah jeff is clearly like you know he talked about chicken bakes on our about the i honestly think that like did we did you did jeff and our podcast kick off chicken bakes like the whole thing he did in discord first okay okay yeah i want to say he

did it in the discord first and then it was onto our podcast and then gotcha kind of blew up from there but yeah so so jeff jeff jeff got an early shirt i'm not sure i don't think we got the story uh what hand luke played uh what uh cool hand luke was doing to you know get that shirt uh preemptively but uh maybe we'll uh get him on as a future guest and hear all about that yeah big shout out to the real mole, though, is Big Eddie. Yes. Did you see the story I posted today? Yeah. Yeah. Is this the real mole?

Yeah. It's just like, I still think like so many people like probably have no clue what Eddie looks like, like his actual face. So then it's just like, I bet half the people that saw that image are like, I don't know who that is. I'm like, yeah, that makes it half. That makes it more funny. Yeah.

It makes it funnier. So did you watch the Royal Rumble this week? What do you mean? I had the live thread going. Duh. Okay. So Joey, you watched the Royal Rumble this week. Are you happy with how I phrased that?

Yeah. Duh. I opened the thread and it was live chatting the entire time. I watched it. I watched a good chatting the entire time like yeah i watched it i watched uh i watched a good bit of it um i haven't watched i haven't because was that like so how long has peacock been doing the pay-per-views for free is that like a very new thing i didn't know they were doing it for free so you must be lucky you're you're on canada stuff so i don't think i can believe so so i was able to watch i don't know if it's a newish thing or if it's the first one but i haven't seen a i don't think I've ever seen a pay-per-view royal uh a pay-per-view WWE event

ever in my life so except I think when I was a kid it I think pay-per-view used to be like channel 99 or 98 or something and you could like watch it blurry if you had your tv tuned right and so I think I might have I think I might have listened when I was like super into wrestling it's like a 10 year old I would put it on that channel and just like have it in the background and listen to the matches, but I couldn't really watch it because they were so blurry. I watched the whole females' Rumble. I watched the two matches in the middle, and I ended up falling asleep during the males' Royal Rumble.

I don't think I knew who won until a couple days later when I went back and watched it on Fast Forward. I was like, okay. No, Royal Rumble is the best event of the year for wwe in my opinion because that's when the most surprises happen um then this year the women's royal rumble was far superior to the men's we had naomi returning we had uh jordan grace from the tna champion showing up jade cargill showing up uh jade cargill is the epitome of muscle mommy if anybody ever wants to look that up the pure crush on jade cargill for sure so like i think

that was a definitely a better except the winner i don't think we really needed a main eventer to win again i think we we really need to start giving the Royal Rumble back to some of the mid-Carter's and the new entrants. Logan Paul is a fantastic wrestler. I love watching him wrestle. It is ridiculous how good he is at this, considering he's an outsider. Roddy Piper would hate me for saying it, but he is really good at this. Is he a pure athlete? Because he really is a year or two into it.

Yeah, but sometimes you can be an athlete all you want. You jump off the rope jump through the ropes or land a clothesline but if you can't tell a story during a match you're useless and he's so good at the facial expressions and the and you know his first match um he did uh i think it was versus Rey Mysterio. And he did a suplex. Basic move. And rather than let Rey go, he paused. And when he paused, it was so obvious he was about to do Eddie Guerrero's move. In that little, tiny pause.

And the crowd blew up before he even moved. that is how good logan paul is at that like he's just he just has that little thing in him that that he can just you're watching him he's like like how do you know to do that like this is stuff that people have been doing this for years don't know how to do so yeah he's just an interesting he's a great watch um so yeah he's just an interesting he's a great watch um the three-way match was stupid don't care um and the men's world rumble yeah cody won great nobody saw that coming like we all saw that coming i think the rumbles are hard they're harder to like make look real if you will because like you there's a script and you have to go over the top rope but like if you don't if your body isn't in the right position versus versus like you know slamming someone down and pinning them is pretty cut and dry in comparison to like trying to get someone over a rope and require you know you're relying on a little bit of luck on like how your body

kind of tumbles when you're in you know when you're going over a rope or something so uh some of those were just like you can tell they're just like waiting to kind of just like roll off yeah yeah there's there's definitely some terrible bails i think gold dust despite being one of my favorite wrestlers has the most infamous terrible bail where somebody like clotheslined him from halfway across the ring and then he just ran and jumped over the side like it was terrible that's funny um but i mean yeah you're right it's it's it's hard to do that kind of stuff but so you're pretty much relying on the script and the winners and who sees who at the time. So I don't want to beat a dead horse talking about the Vince McMahon stuff, but I'm only I'm only going to I'm basically going to bring it up because I heard about him talk about it on.

Let's get stupid. And Huck literally like was reading verbatim some of the text. And it was the most literally some of the most like i'm a very vulgar person and this shit was making me like oh wow i can't i don't want to hear this like i don't i literally don't want to hear this so i don't want to actually necessarily talk about it was just more of a hearkening back to the you know just huck fan in general and their guests it was on their episode a couple weeks ago and it's just like wait they had vince mcmahon on there no no no huck was reading the some of the text correspondence like just the oh i didn't yeah i didn't even look at that shit no no oh no they're oh my god bbc this and third input that and i was just like oh wow

it's some of that it's some of that stuff that you would that you only read about when you were like little on the internet for the first time. And people go, Hey, check out this link. And you're like, what is this? Oh my God.

Yeah. It's like some faces of death shit. Yeah. He, he, he was out the first time, first time I look at it and like, he's known,

he's a known piece of shit. There's, um, and I don't want to, I'm not going to tarnish anybody. It's not my intention here, but they, they do

this thing where they go and they entertain the troops across over there over in afghan and iraq and stuff like that well they did that one year and one of the female wrestlers was gang raped jeez uh and essentially vince hushed it because he didn't want to ruin his their relationship with the military because of course it was troops that did it to her, right? So she ended up killing herself. She's gone now. And it's like,

nobody believes Vince McMahon is a good person. Sorry. Nobody believes that. So the first time the allegations came out and he stepped down, he should have stayed gone. Then he came back because I'm Vince McMahon. I own this company. I do whatever the fuck I want.

But this time, um, jim threatened to leave and they threatened to this is the rumor slim jim threatened to pull you know what it's him or us now and that was finally the thing that was like ousted from the board right like when all the sponsors opted to pull out at that rate so true he did what he did for wrestling but let's never fool ourselves that he was a good person one thing i found weird like i said that was the first time i'd watched wrestling in years like the i don't i don't know if i just missed it but i didn't see in a single like wwe logo on anything it was all sponsorship yeah the whole the whole ring like every other the side skirts of everything like there was no like like the last i think it was like you know early 2000s probably literally the last time i watched anything it was just like wwe raw in your face

just like let's put our logo on everything it's like oh that that's not what they do anymore so yeah yep so we have this game we like to play uh oh i'm sorry yeah yeah but yeah i just it's we talk about wrestling quite a bit and i don't know if people knew that kind of stuff but no the story about that young woman is very heartbreaking and very disheartening before fucking about the human race basically yeah he's he's not a good person then that's why we love massonomics because i should never go down here absolutely well do you want to uh big justin i know we're kind of that's a segue but yeah let's uh we want to you want to cheer us up with something a little uh less less sad hit us

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Is that you, buddy? Justin, are you there? Yeah, that's me. Hey, welcome to the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. How are you doing? It's good to see you, man. I haven't seen you since the Arnold in 2023. Gosh. Damn near. Yeah.

We're talking about 11 and a half months. Yeah. Almost 11 months on a dot, isn't it? Yeah, 11 months. Yeah. Yeah. Gosh. Doing well here?

How are you doing the way out there in the East Coast? We're good. We're good, man. I'm actually, I'm glad you dropped where you're from. Cause I was like, I don't know where he lives. Like I, I can probably, I can probably tell you where like 80, well,

at least I can probably tell you where like the majority of crew I've talked to live. I couldn't finger where you're from. So whereabouts in Chicago or well in Illinois, like in, I guess in reference to Chicago, that's probably the only place I know. You just did it.

You did the thing. Everybody does it forever. Oh yeah. You can, you can always tell where someone's from. they're not from the midwest and you say you're from illinois they go oh you're from chicago i was actually i was actually more impressed with illinois's i was just like that's not how you say that you said i'd say and just to mess with people i'd say illinois yeah i mean as as a person whose family is french heritage i avoid it my name my last name is very french and then they go hey this is america we're gonna put every damn syllable in this word so that's how that's how i do my french around here i was just teaching kids how to read French from Claude Debussy today, and I was like, here's how you read it in horrible Midwestern translation.

But yeah, if you're in Illinois, so Illinois is a long state with a pointy bottom. I am down towards the bottom, and I'm kind of in this geographical anomaly where I am about an hour and a half from Paducah, Kentucky, an hour and a half from Evansville, Indiana, an hour and a half from Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and an hour and a half from St. Louis. So I'm an hour and a half from anything that's useful. And the rest of it's all like towns of 20,000 or fewer. So not a lot, but close enough to be somewhere, but also far enough that it's annoying to get there. Makes sense. Before we get into anything else here, I'm going to follow up real quick. So you said you're an hour and a half from somewhere in Indiana.

Where are you in relation to French Lick? Oh, I think French Lick is about a three-hour drive. Okay. I was looking at it the other day, eyeballing the drive. Last year, I almost drove up there. Come on, man. okay i was looking at it the other day eyeballing the drive if it's last year i almost i almost drove up there come on man for a home gym con code unpaid save you a little bit on your ticket come hang out with me big big joey not not big big big american joey uh one of the mats big kurt locker uh i'm thinking about getting out there this year.

It's just last year was hard for me because one day, man, I think they're on a full Friday and a full Saturday this year. Whereas last year was like a Saturday and like half a Sunday. It was kind of a shit show. So a full Friday, full, a full Friday or a full Saturday. Come out, have some fun, man. Three hours. I, I implore you.

I mean, it is a blast. Yeah, it really, it is a blast yeah it really really is a blast and I think it's worth it I think I recommend it but you do you brother but three hours away I'd kill to be three hours away from shit that I'm spending a thousand dollars to fly to well last year was

a little tough because I wanted to come but by the time I realized when it was happening and I actually paid attention to what was happening it was like a week out. And so my fiance's schedule is a week ahead. So she was already scheduled. So I would have had, I was, I was sitting there going, man, she has a car. I have a car. I can just drive out on Saturday. But then I said, by the time I get there,

it'll be about noon ish. Cause knowing me, I don't leave before nine most of the time. And then by the time i left to get back it'd be like nine o'clock so i said maybe we'll look at next year and also last year was tough too because about that time of year i was getting ready for my spring concert and i had just put in my uh notice that i was leaving my old job to move to a new job so i was like in the middle of packing everything up and it didn't didn't dawn on me until too late this year i've already had uh fiance look at it and say hey can you give me the night off friday and all day saturday and we'll try to get a hotel room somewhere

probably like jasper or something that would be awesome man if you make it out i would i'd love to have a beer with you and you shoot the shit and yeah if there's definitely like this is the year to go last year there was certainly like like 10 vendors this year there's definitely like, this is the year to go. Last year, there was certainly like 10 vendors. This year, there's like 40. I saw. There's easily going to be a few hundred people there versus like there was maybe a couple hundred people total last year, including vendors. So this year is going to be legit like 10. It's going to be exponentially better and larger than it was last year, as Tanner would put it, exponentially.

But okay, enough sidetracking here. First question, what brought you to Mastinomics? I want to hear your Mastinomics origin story, why you're here, who brought you in, first episode, all that good stuff. So weirdly enough, I'm like 38 right now. When I started lifting, I was 32. I only started lifting because I graduated college,

got out to get a job being a band teacher, and I realized I could not keep up with the marching band kids while we're marching. And so I said, if I can't tell them I can do it, I'm not going to make them do it. So I had to go lose some weight. I went on keto, like every person who goes on the internet and try to figure out what the best way to lose weight is lost a hundred pounds. And then I was like, man, I feel awful all the time. I i'm just gonna slowly add some carbs back and start you know i heard about this thing where you can lift heavy and kind of eat a little more whatever you want and i was like oh i'm gonna do some five by five and five three one and all that stuff and got into power lifting and it was about a year later after i got into power lifting i I gained all that weight back, gained back up to 400 pounds again.

But this time it was like less bulging out of every shirt you're in. And then I was talking with a friend of mine, now a friend of mine, back then just barely an acquaintance, Ben Rice. If you guys know who Ben Rice is, Ben Rice is an old school powerlifter. He's been lifting for 20 years since he was like 10 he um he's a younger guy though he's only like 30 now 33 and a couple years ago he you might have heard of him because in 2019 he went to the arnold and he beat ray williams in the uh powerlifting competition by uh whatever points they were using back then and And that was the year he did the thousand 80 squat. So I was talking with, uh,

with Ben about going to see him at the Arnold and he has been streams. Ben's a Twitch streamer. And he's like, yeah, I'm going to go to this thing called the Arnold. I go, what the heck is that? He's like,

Oh, it's like a big convention for weightlifting. I was like, Oh shit. I don't know what this stuff is. I don't know anybody in lifting except for him. I'm going gonna go see this so rachel and i drive out there we start walking around and this year whenever you walk in the

arena way off on the right hand side over by like where last year they had the um highland game stuff there was a little corner and in that corner i walk around the corner and I see a little person headbutting a rather red bald man with sleeve cut off shirt that says, you know, something about OK, bye on it. See him getting headbutted in the groin by a little person. And I go, interesting. And I walk down that aisle and who do I see but two large gentlemen standing by a little booth with signs that says mass nomics. And to this day, Tanner still remembers what I was wearing in the day. I first saw them because I was wearing an a seven,

a Brandon Campbell hoodie. He will still remember that way better memory than I could have. And I was looking at their shirts and I was like, oh man, these are kind of good. I want to get one. And I got the, uh,

Oh God, which one was it? I was trying to find it earlier and it was, what's one of the ones that's gone now. It was the, um, the huge life. Okay.

The huge life shirt. And it was a four XL. And that's the first thing, the first thing they said to me, and I got it. They said, we love selling four XLS to people. You're the biggest billboards we got. And so we were walking around with the big forex shirt on the

next day walk down the hall and the guy's like hey across the hall that was the first time i ever met him and i went you know what i'm gonna figure out i was just i mean i was a i'm an idiot like i on a computer all the time never figured out how to use social media. So I got on Instagram. I was like, oh, there's Massanomics. I always see these memes pop up. So I followed them there. And I met them first, followed them on Instagram next.

Then I'm like, oh, they have a podcast. I started listening to the podcast in like 2019. So that was where it all started. Then we were set to come to the Arnold in 2020. And the day we were set to leave, the Arnold in 2020 and the day we were set to leave I was walking out the door and I saw a notice that the governor said they were going to arrest anybody that went into the Arnold and I went oh guess we're not going to the Arnold

and it wasn't until a little bit after that I signed up on the it was probably right before 20 gosh 22 right before the Arnold, I signed up on the, I realized they had the Discord,

and I went, oh, I should get a membership. And that's whenever they posted up, hey, anyone willing to help out the booth? Come out and help. Come out and help. Been going back ever since. Can't get rid of me now unless they boot me out.

That might be the most organic, like, most organic like story I've ever heard like the most literally just met two dudes and like bought their shit and then like started following them a little later like I love that that's a great story now when you start listening to the podcast you know did you just start

right where the new episode was and just kind of stay up to date? Or did you do any back catalog deep diving or anything? Well, at the time, I mentioned I was always on computers. I'm a really bad, addictive gamer when it comes to stuff. So at the time, I was playing a game called Elite Dangerous, where it's kind of like, you ever see those games where people drive semi-trucks around? Imagine that, but in space. where it's kind of like you ever see those games people drive semi trucks around imagine that but in space like the whole day you would be on there just like driving to a station figuring out going

on a website figuring out what is selling best pick it up drive somewhere else it might be an hour to drive there in a spaceship so i just throw podcasts on so i would start going backwards from where i was and caught up a little bit i didn't get all the way back to the beginning, but I probably got to about like the 80s or so. And then ended up falling off the podcast wagon again for a bit. Then I was like, oh, I got like 20 to catch up on. That's like a couple of days worth of just sitting at a computer. So I'm catching back up. And I fall off again.

And then just like a wave, you know, you're always going back and forth. It is. I do feel it's kind of nice to binge them though like if you do have like a four hour window or a six hour window and you can listen to episodes back to back to back like that that like harkens back to when i did go through the backlog it's just kind of like if i'm like painting or something like i can literally listen to like six episodes in a fucking day uh you know whereas uh just just just the one episode just two two hours every seven days is kind of sometimes not enough.

I can't do that at all. I will listen to, sometimes I will listen to half an episode before I have to stop and put on music or something. But that's just me. I listen to people talk for a living. So sometimes people talking to me on purpose gets to be too much. Granted, that all happened for me during the middle. That was like a month. granted that all happened for me during like the middle it's like that was like a month i basically found amazonics a month end of being furloughed from work that should end up lasting like eight

months so to me it was kind of perfect like i just basically like you know found friends in my there's other friends for your ears but uh all right so just uh just you want to introduce yourself to everybody we kind of i know i've called you many a couple times and uh just uh where people gonna find you on instagram or discord or wherever you want they go and introduce yourself to everybody? We kind of, I know I've called you many a couple of times and just where people are going to find you on Instagram or discord or wherever you want, they find it and you know, your name and all that stuff. Yeah.

I'm Justin. I go by many. If you look at me, look for me on Instagram. It's at many action. Jesus, where I am most well-known surprisingly is twitch.tv slash, slash miniature action.

Jesus. I stream 99% weightlifting, although I've been injured for a few months, so I haven't even been in the gym at all. And I stream gaming every once in a while, but I usually stream games that people don't care about. Like, I literally play Euro Truck Sim, or lately it's been a huge binge of World of Warships.

And whenever I stream lifting, I've been really, really lucky in the last few years that, you know, there's a dedicated group of lifters on Twitch. There's tons of lifters on Twitch. And I tell everybody, if you like lifting at all, there are calisthenics lifters. There are bodybuilders. There are power lifters. There are strongmen. There are crossfitters. There are power lifters. There are strongmen. There are crossfitters. There are people doing kettlebell stuff.

Everything. Everything you can find on Twitch. There is somebody there who can answer questions, who's willing to talk, who's looking for someone to talk. I am a guy sitting in a one-car garage right now. Most of my interaction with other people is me sitting in a one-car garage, having a one-sided voice conversation with people typing to me. And this is like the most interaction I have in a gym ever because I don't go to public gyms. I have this gym and I look around and I go, I've got $6,000 in bars. Do I need to go to a Gold's?

No. But yeah, Twitch, it's great. What I got really lucky with a couple of years ago and, my friend Pete over at SBD, he last year at the Arnold, he kind of, it was the first time I've really felt embarrassed in a long time. I'm,

I'm a kindergarten teacher, so we don't feel embarrassed too much. But, um, when I walked up and I'm talking with Pete, who is, uh, one of the,

one of the, the big shot American guys at SBD. And he introduces me. I cannot remember their names for the life of me, to two international high level, like lower weight class powerlifters. And he's like, yeah, this guy right here, he did worlds this year and he got second in worlds. And this guy right here, he has the world record squat for his weight class. And then he goes to me and goes, this guy right here, M here many he's been in the top two most viewed powerlifting meets ever and i was like

oh shucks so we um for those of you who may be into gaming at all if you ever heard of a man named tyler one tyler one he is a little short no-haired guy pretty muscly guy plays League of Legends and he's known for like just going off screaming on his streams he is big into lifting he convinced Twitch to start

a online powerlifting competition where people would stream from their home you would get drafted into teams and you would compete for totals and you get points by your total and whoever won i mean they get they paid out cash legit ben told me that when he won the arnold he won his weight class and he won the overall and got paid less than streaming from his home gym on one of these twitch meets and so they the first time

they were testing things out it was going okay the second time they got a bit lot bigger of production and they invited me and i got i was so hyped for that i took a day off work i came in came out here in this garage in like august and we lifted and my team won and then the second time the third third match they invited me back a third time and this time it was even bigger and fancy i mean at one point we had a hundred thousand people watching the stream jesus and um you know i'm just out here being a fat guy in a garage picking up weights the same thing i would normally do to 12 people or 100 people and i have a hundred thousand people watching me all spamming like league of legends memes at me and i'm like whatever and you know had a really good day

ended up being the two-time twitch rivals winner the only person who's won more is ben because ben is a freak of nature he's uh he's a 100 105 kilo lifter who has squatted like 750 benched 400 and deadlifted 800 so in the twitch world he is kind of like the freak and i've been lucky enough to be on his team every time that's a that's awesome you blow me away with a hundred thousand like like i've watched some of like the biggest production powerlifting live streams in the world and they're like like i'm like three thousand people watching them or something you know you got you know you got nothing 100k now is twitch full are there a bunch of bots on twitch there's those like legit 100 there can be there can be a lot of bots but this is also like split i mean like uh so tyler he rebroadcasts on his channel his channel i mean i don't know if

he's on now but uh let me see if if he has numbers because every time I look at his numbers, it's disgusting. But some of these people, like he'll be streaming to like 45,000 people just doing whatever. And then it was on the front page of Twitch. So like when you load it up Twitch and they show you the things we recommend, it was the number one thing they recommend. Kind of like whenever they do a big tournament for Fortnite and that big

tournament is huge. It's on the same page as their big tournaments for Fortnite. It's on the Twitch rivals page. So everyone who's subscribed to that to watch Fortnite and call of duty and everything like that now is seeing a powerlifting competition. They're all coming in. Like, what the heck is this?

And, uh, they had, um, Cheryl Haywood, who was an Olympic competitive lifter. She was an announcer the second and third time which was really cool because the announcer that he had was a great shout caster for games and he lifts too but

he's not you know as familiar with how powerlifting worked and cheryl even though she's an olympic lifter she understands the movements she would demonstrate them talk about you know form stuff while we're looking at the reviews of everything and give a lot of insight into it. So they, they've really been stepping it up as they go. I just keep hoping they keep making more because every time they do, we get so many more new streamers coming into, into, uh, fitness and health community on Twitch. And it's just huge. That's awesome, man. I I've been on Twitch a few times. I think, uh, I think Angelo and, uh, Steve would used to do live. They would actually live stream their podcast on Twitch, but I don't think they've ever done that in forever.

I've not seen them on in a long time. Yeah, they would post like a link in their Instagram story, I think, that they were streaming over there. I go and would catch that periodically. Other than that, I think I've maybe watched a couple of Paralithian Meets on Twitch. It's just – it's harder because it's not – for me, if I want to watch a Paralithian – if I want to if i want to watch a live stream on a parallel meet i don't want it to be something i can well i guess now i can cash it from my phone a lot easier than i could a few years ago i guess but like you know i don't want to have to like hdmi from a laptop into my tv or something i just want to be able to go to youtube and fucking click on the live stream but like you know but uh there

might be some people that actually don't know what twitch is do you want to do like a 90 second kind of uh i know scans probably has no clue what twitch is because apparently it's old you know so give give the world the 90 seconds what is twitch and compare it to maybe something so twitch.tv like compare it to youtube youtube you have videos that are up you have some people you can live stream on youtube a lot of people do that now uh Twitch was kind of the original streaming site. It started out as Justin.TV about a guy who wanted to stream like his day-to-day life, walking around doing stuff. And it evolved into people want to play games. So then they split Justin.TV and Twitch.TV. Twitch was for games. Justin.TV was for real life streaming. Then Justin.TV went away, became all

Twitch. It got bought out by Amazon. So Amazon is funding it all now. But it has everything. I mean, I'm looking through my list now of people I'm subscribed to. I have people who are sewing on stream. People who are building keyboards. People who are

attractive. People wearing swimming suits and hot tubs. People who are lifting weights. People playing video games. Pretty much, if you want to do and hot tubs, uh, people who are lifting weights, people playing video games. Pretty much. If you want to do something and show somebody else that right now, Twitch was like the originator of that idea. Most pretty cool.

I'm glad you found it. It sounds like you, like, it sounds like, you know, Twitch is kind of right up there, maybe even exceeding your, uh,

your mass economics world. Like, like you basically, you found your friends, you know, on, you know, on the internet the internet uh other than meeting ben at the arnold have you been able to meet any of the other like your twitch buddies you know in real life or anything like like like you have the massonomics guys yeah actually a couple uh they have a thing called twitch con which is you know everyone wants to go to twitch con who's on twitch it's kind of like your comic

con whatever but they have uh you know sessions where people will come out and talk about things streaming wise they'll have the famous people there for meet and greets people making stuff to sell everything but it's usually in like san diego and we're in illinois it's a little bit of a travel and a couple years ago i convinced uh my fiancee that we should go and i talked to one of the guys that i stream with actually probably the guy who got me into the twitch rivals meets was his name is joe he's his stream is average joes underscore oc he's the power lifter lifts in his um home gym in like los angeles area and he said hey you want to come to twitch con so yeah he goes well if you come out to come out fly in out here by me i'll pick you up you can stay at

our house we'll drive down to san diego the next day and we ended up getting an airbnb with like 10 other streamers and we all went to twitch con and all went to the convention but you know being that i don't drink being that i uh i'm a school teacher so i got off work at 3 p.m drove to my dad's house by the airport slept there overnight got up at 3 p.m., drove to my dad's house by the airport, slept there overnight, got up at 3 a.m. to go, and got out there. And now I'm two hours behind, and I'm trying to maintain my sleep schedule because Tuesday, whenever we go back to school, I have to be back on a 6 a.m. sleep schedule. So I didn't do any of the partying or anything, but everyone else was having a pretty good time doing it. But yeah, I keep telling all the friends i go hey twitchcon is great it's not aimed at us twitchcon is aimed at the people who want to go watch

rocket league video game tournaments or super smash brothers kind of stuff and i said okay what you need to do is you all need to come to the arnold so this year i've actually got about another 12 15 streamers who are coming to the Arnold to meet us all. And so that'll be fun because I told them the Arnold is basically TwitchCon for lifting. If you like lifting more than you like watching people play video games, then the Arnold is where to go. So we're going to have a squad showing up out there. I told them all to come by the Mathsnomics booth. I'll catch them there because it's an easy enough spot.

Which, by the way, booth 205. Well, you guys could just take over because I hear the booth across from Mastinomics is empty. It is. So you guys just set up a camera, sit at a table. Yeah. Y'all throw a couple hundred bucks in.

You get your $10,000 booth for the weekend. I know I'll be swinging by. I'll be doing some content. No Twitch stuff. Well, that's awesome, man. I'm glad you found your people. I'm glad you're a little

diversified, too. You can be really deep into a few different niches. I've done that the last few years, and it's nice to just be like, all right, i'm part of a few different crazy things here but uh let's see one thing i want to get to talk about here is uh you guys went and hung out and worked out with jen thompson i want to hear that story pretty quick what do you yeah like that that sounded that sounds like fun i think everyone will know who jen thompson is hopefully yeah jen

used to twitch stream and so what what they kind of did though was jen she kind of had a webcam up in the corner of the gym and it was almost like um just kind of there and you could type and talk and occasionally if they remembered they would check because they weren't used to twitch streaming they were just doing it because they heard it was a you know a new way to reach out to people and they weren't used to like you know keeping up with chat kind of stuff. So I would hang out in there just watching, and I'd chime in here and there, and eventually she started realizing I was typing to her, and she would start talking.

And so I'd ask her questions. She'd answer my questions, started talking about all kinds of stuff. And one day she said, Hey, you know what? If you're ever out in North Carolina, you need to let me know. And this was like covid time so i

had been let go from my teaching job because who needs a band teacher whenever you can't breathe in school without a mask on and so um i'm sitting there at home and i'm like man it's like the fall of covid you know i shouldn't be going anywhere right and i and i i thought i talked to fiance i said you jen said we should come out. You know, we have all this time. I wonder if it'd be okay to come out. So I messaged her one day and I said,

and her husband, her husband, if you don't know, Donovan Thompson is also an incredible power lifter, but also a ER doctor. And he, I, she goes,

oh yeah, I'll be fine. I go, I mean, with all this stuff happening, should, should we bother coming out? She goes, oh no. Yeah. Everything going on.

Donovan said, no, I'm not too worried about it. I'm going to get it either way. And so I said, okay. So I said, if the, uh, if like the 20 time world champion asked you to come out to her house to lift, I'm going to take her up on it. So we, we picked up a night, drove up, dropped the kid off at the grandparents. world champion asked you to come out to her house to lift i'm going to take her up on it yeah so we we picked up a night drove up dropped the kid off at the grandparents because he was doing remote learning school he could do it anywhere i said all right drove down to north uh north carolina

got a bench session in with her got a squat session with her and i'll tell you what if you've never seen jen thompson in person or her husband in person they are both about the same height and if you've ever seen jen thompson in person she is like five six maybe yeah five six five five so i'm six six and her husband tried to spot me while squatting and he comes walking up behind me like he's gonna back spot me and i go yeah i don't know about the cool to be honest he had a reason though i i somehow tweaked my back sleeping like the week before and it was hurt such pain i could not walk upright pushing a shopping cart in a store so i hobble into their house just like plant over like an old man get my shoes on get everything on go to squat and unrack like 405

and as soon as the weird thing was as soon as weight got on my back the back pain went away so i'm like hobbling over getting set pick up 405 and just do like a set of five and he goes oh shit i guess i don't need to spot you and so we just kind of went up from there it's where we wherever we ended up that day jim uh tried to get me to bench three 15 for the first time. And I failed miserably. It was one of those like, you know, commit Sudoku moments because you just failed three 15 in front of the

person who could get you to three 15, if anyone could. But then a few months later, I hit it in a competition. And the first thing she did was she messaged me and goes, I know you're going to get it. Uh, so positive.

That's awesome, man. That was a, that was a nice heartwarming story i'm glad we got that that's a that's a fun thing like the moment you get weight on your i've noticed that so like we we've complained i have complained about hypertrophy a few times hypertrophiles um i've complained about it a few times because like i don't think i love it but like i really want to do it anyway and i noticed that if i have doms from squatting deadlifting makes them go away so like funny so i'll squat on the monday and i'll still be dying on the wednesday and i'm like i'm like my abductors, my hamstrings are all on fire. And then the juggernaut will be like, yeah, you're deadlifting today. And I'll just be like, this isn't going to go well.

And then I deadlift. And I'm just like, this is the best. Keep going. And I'll just like, this week, I was in so much pain. Also doing the ab wheel murdered me. I was in so much pain. Also doing the ab wheel murdered me. And then Juggernaut wanted me to do 360 pounds for five for three-inch block pulls.

It's not a lot to you guys, but to me, like, that's a ton of weight, right? Especially, you know, I'm old. I ended up doing 355 instead because my shoulder was going to pop out, but I did six reps. And I was just like, this is the best. I ended up doing a grizzly scream. Well, no, like Havkalik, Kapulikic, whatever his name is. And Morgan, I guess she came down

to the basement because I scared her. Because she started yelling for me to see if I was okay and I wasn't answering because my music was blasting and all the blood was in my legs but that was but it was just i'm just saying like it's just funny how you like you're so sore then suddenly the weight goes up and you're like no i'm okay now it's war with the bar keith that's that's where i was getting at it's all war with the bar yes sir. That's where I was getting at. It's all war with the bar. Yes, sir. So will there be a lot of us in July going to war with the bar? Are you going to make it out to Aberdeen there, Justin?

Yeah, actually, I'm going to be out there. I was going to try to lift, but then I had an idea, a little idea there. I remember last year watching the meet. deer there i remember last year watching the meat and um for those of you who watched the the lift our live easy classic last year you may have noticed there was no sound yeah and the reason there was no sound is because youtube is very litigious youtube if you have any copywritten audio they just shut it off or shut you off so if you don't shut the audio off you're in a bit of a problem so it everything goes the way I hope it will. I asked Tanner if they would like some help with the stream setup.

And now I'm trying to get stuff sorted out to come out and stream it. Like, pack up all my computer, all of my ridiculous amount of uh cameras like for you two guys since you have the camera you know i've got a dslr a dslr a dslr a dslr two of which i made a bad choice and i bought like netflix quality cinema cameras just because i thought it'd be funny because my friends get mad whenever i spend money on stupid things so i may have bought a five thousand dollar camera and uh and i was like hey hey uh this camera over here yeah have bought a $5,000 camera and, uh, and I was like, Hey, Hey,

uh, this camera over here. Yeah, I got a camera. I got a camera that is, uh, that is on a wireless rig so I can move it wherever. And the whole thing is transmission.

I'm like, yeah, we can do some fun stuff. And I meet with that. Maybe. Basically, uh, as he's talking,

he, he, he's, you know, he's clicking and showing us like 20 different angles of his gym. And they're all in like 4K. So that's pretty crazy. Yeah, keep in mind, this is a gym that's 10 by 20.

And I've got four wide angle lens cameras in here. Because if you don't have wide angle lens, you can't get me in frame. So yeah, we're planning on coming out. I think right now we have it set up. We're going to leave early because I'm not a flyer. I am a little too girthy for most airplanes and a little too broke for most business class. So we're driving the Prius out. We're going to stop about halfway day one, make it up to Aberdeen day two.

Wait, wait, wait. You're in a Prius. So the Prius is more roomy than the airplane. Tell me about that. I have all my life driven small Japanese cars. Like my first car that was my car was a two-door Honda Civic hatchback. And I swear to God to this day, as long as you don't buy like a Toyota Corolla, like if you look at the side of a car and it's a four-door and the front doors and the back doors are like square shaped i will

not buy it but if they're like the longer front doors like the old hondas had it's so much room to get in out of they have a ridiculous amount of space like my prius now i have a prius station wagon the prius v and i can put kick my seat all the way back and at one point i have my dad who is six two behind me comfortably in the back seat and like i feel like i have so much room my fiance has a corolla and i get in that and i feel like the guy in the simpsons and little car that's funny i'm exactly sending keith the simpsons and little car that's funny i'm exactly sending keith that picture right now and telling him to meme this yeah there he is getting the notification that's what i was playing with the whole time was sending him the tall guy

in the little car meme and being like me my meme idea for this are you laughing at my automobile this is the only automobile i could afford take off your face in that for next week. It'll be good stuff. That's so funny. That'll be cool. I'm glad. So you think it'll be there Thursday night or Friday night or what do you think? Saturday?

I think we're planning. I'm planning on trying to get there Thursday because I want to get there because I'm literally like when I say I'm packing stuff up in the garage here, when I, inside, I built a really stupid computer, like, you know, the kind of every gamer has to have where everything lights up, everything from the fans to the power cables, light up a rainbow of colors. And then I built the exact same computer with no lights for the garage because I needed something that could handle this. And I've got, I'm going to pack that up, pack my monitors up pack for all the cameras up because i don't know exactly how we're gonna how i want we're gonna try setting it up yet but i know we're gonna have

swappable cameras so i'd like to have it where if there's two platforms you have a big screen of one platform an inset of another, and you can swap them back and forth as lifters come up or as things happen. I don't know if we're going to have an announcer table or if we're just going to put a mic on Gino because I have those wireless lavs I was showing you earlier. I got those lav mics.

And the reason I mentioned it to them was because if you have a desktop that has a good video card, they have this software that eats audio. Like, I don't know if you realize, right now, I have a big-ass fan just blasting in the garage. It sounds like

if you had an air conditioner running in here, just humming like a big outdoor air conditioner, but it kills the sound, so I'm hoping we can use that to kill the audio of the music is perfect right now yeah i'm hoping we can use that to kill the music audio so we can keep announcer audio for the for i mean let's be honest geno is like three quarters of most power lifting meets entertainment and then you have the flames at the end of the

deadlifts so geno plus fire is going to be even better well there's also talk of like entrances i think for a third yes like like wwe style entrances i've already got my music picked out it's between one of two songs uh we're definitely going to have some stupid fun um that remote camera you have might also be good for doing some on the spot interviews well let me just say this too for the remote camera this camera right now is on a tripod yep i may have um i may have as in don't tell my fiancee this i may have uh dropped about six hundred dollars on a really cool holder that holds a gimbal in the middle like it holds everything together yep so it's everything in one has a battery pack so i can power it for eight hours and power everything off of it and

it's all stabilized i'm like it's on the credit card don't worry about it yeah it kind of makes me wish i wasn't lifting so i could go and do do off the side interviews for you that would be fun as hell yeah i did i've been thinking for a while so the guy who hosts our local meets around here his name is al uh he was a uspa guy i think with the wrpf now but um in the st louis area he um he has a company streaming meets and after watching like the the american pro and stuff like that, I'm like, man, everyone streaming Meets is just stationary camera with a spreadsheet up. Yeah, man.

It's boring as shit. Yeah, then I saw last year at the deadlift, they had the flamethrowers, and Rachel told me I could not get them for the garage. And I was very sad. I have enough overhead space for them, I think, but she said no. I'm like, man, that's what we need.

It needs stuff. It needs explosions. It needs people like, well, hopefully not people falling down and dead left again. I don't want to see any snipers taking out John Oldham. So does every streaming platform basically mute anytime there's music? Yes and no. twitch will mute it afterwards it so whenever you whenever you record whenever you stream it records and saves a vod and if you haven't saved vods it goes back and it scrubs those vods for for stuff and then it mutes them so it'll still be all there just be dead spots so what we do now

instead is um if we want music i set it up to where i can run music out to the stream but it runs out on a separate audio channel so it doesn't get saved to the vod okay so i can still hear music whenever i'm streaming i can still play it out to the stream they can hear what i'm listening to but it's on a separate audio channel. So if we wanted to do something like that, we could have music streaming out. It just wouldn't go to the VOD. It would just be a dead spot

like the first 30 seconds of this podcast. Yeah. It was like 15 minutes. Don't hit record. I think I hit record. It was more of just an acknowledgement. I don't know. I'm going to be so pissed if that's...

Speaking of WRBF, I just realized, I messaged them the other day, my meet results are still not up from December. It wasn't a cheap meet either. All I ask. On WRBF or on Open Powerlifting? On Open Powerlifting.

Was it early December? December 9th. Are you looking for the meet or are you just for your name because i'm looking for my name yeah look um does steve's check see well that was steve's first meet too but if steve has one like sometimes like if somehow you put your name in wrong or different like are you literally yeah they put it under joey if you had joseph in Joey in one or Joe in one, it's all okay. Then yeah, I don't know. That's strange. Did you search by meat? And I was like, guys,

it's not up there. And they were like, holy crap, it's not. Yeah, and that's kind of weird. I think this happened last time. I had to fight them to get my stuff on OPL. Interesting. Do you remember what was the meat called? Or where was it? What was the meet called?

Oh, where, or where was it? Lift miss apex lift, miss Burlington, Ontario. Yeah. Cause I remember for a while I couldn't find,

like I couldn't find myself because something got messed up with my open power lifting. And yeah, I don't know. So it was WRPF. Yeah. Yeah. They don't,

it's not even nothing from canada is up from that day yeah so it's just not up like they confirmed it it's not up and that's kind of like out of pocket like let's go guys yeah definitely anyway hey i have a question no i've been i've been i've been hogging it all so have a minute. I don't know if this is talkable, aboutable. Why mini-action Jesus? Oh, that's easy. It's very easy. Very talkable.

Years ago, I... My grandma was always one of those really strict people. Yeah, I'd get a haircut all the time. So I just stopped cutting my hair for years and i had this weird beard genetics weird hair genetics where my beard would just stop at like an inch and a half two inches long and so i would trim it up and look okay but my hair kept growing and i eventually had really long hair probably like not like tanner long but like

onto my shoulders make a good ponytail long and um well it just so happened at about the same time this was like a double whammy my friend's dad every time i come over he would call me like mini tiny something like that and my teacher would call me fat jesus wow it was college so college teachers can be a little out of pocket but he could call me fat jesus and then simultaneously i had a friend who we would send just random weird videos to each other he sends me a video that makes no sense to this day why it was so funny but it was like a video of a nature documentary of baby ducklings jumping out of a tree in slow motion and crashing into the leaves down below played to a song by a band called the

volume in called miniature action jesus that was about jesus action figure so what happened was i was like this is kind of serendipitous so i made my gamer tag that on steam and uh you know all your all my friends have changed their gamer tag this was like 2007 2008 and i've kept it ever since and then what happened was i was starting to get ready for school my twitch channel used to be a different name um i never had instagram to this point and when you're going to school to be a teacher you have to take a class that's like responsible social media usage and one of the things they said was don't put anything online you don't want anybody to see so what i took that as was everything i

don't want people to see i need to put it under a different name so i changed my twitch account's name to match my gamer tag i figured that makes it easier to find you know you play in games okay um i made an instagram made it the same as my gamer tag and my stream name makes sense and then it just kind of stayed i would love to change it in fact the only reason i have not changed it is because there is a person on twitch who is a partner which means they used to have like 100 average streamers and viewers and they're they get a higher pay rate stuff out of subs and everything his name was mini and he hasn't streamed in seven years, but because he's a partner,

they're never going to clear that name out. So if, if he was just a regular affiliate or a non-affiliated streamer, after so long of not logging in, they just boot you out and the name becomes free. But because he's a partner, it's kind of like, you know,

they signed a contract saying you're going to be exclusive. Well, if he hasn't streamed in seven years, technically he's still exclusive. Technically he's still a partner so they're not going to free clear his name. So I could be many, but it is what it is. Yeah, that's frustrating.

You've tried to reach it. There's no way to DM. I'm sure you've tried to like reach it there's no way to like dm i mean i'm sure you've reached out to dm the guy was like all right dude i'll give you like 500 bucks give me my goddamn name like well he hasn't been online i've seen so is he alive that's a good question i mean he used to be a competitive professional gamer in a game that literally the game died in like 2018 oh yeah there's no reason to love him yeah like he was a pro streamer in that game and then it died and then he just never came back all right I love that explanation I definitely did not get blasphemous like I was afraid it would so

mostly it came from my friends dad and my teacher who kept calling me names, and it happened to call me Fat Jesus and Minnie at the same time, and it all worked out. All right, Keith, what's your next one? It's the only one I really want to hit on. Well, we have some games and stuff, but tell me about your home gym. So you said you never got into the commercial gym setting. You just went from having no gym to starting out the home gym let me let me hear all that i i started we had a local

gold and like everybody who has ever uh never lifted but is aware of it you know of gold's gym because they're they were everywhere at the time so i got us i got us um it was like the black friday deal and when i realized i was too fat i went to black friday deal and i said well if you sign up now you get through the end of the year for free and you won't start charging you to the beginning of the year it's a year contract okay so i start going to gold's and uh it's okay i mean i would go every day i would at least do an hour of cardio and then i would lift on on monday wednesday friday as you would with doing strong lifts five by five but then i started realizing i'm like man these bars suck and they have a squat rack like they have one of those open top squat racks like

every high school gym has but then they have like one really good squat rack and a really good squat rack there was always some dude like using the squat rack to do pull-ups but then they have like one really good squat rack and a really good squat rack there was always some dude like using the squat rack to do pull-ups even though they have seven other pull-up bars and the uh cable crossover with pull-up bars or one day a guy was using it to do sit-ups in the squat rack oh no and i'm like this sucks so i'm thinking i'm like well if i'm paying 40 a month you know that's 480 a year how much would it cost to buy a bar some weights and a rack that's how i got a titan rack for like 380 bucks this was this was when this was when titan was cheap and i bought the the three by three rack for like 380 i bought an absolute dumpster of a bar,

but it had good neural. That's the cheapest cap bar on a Amazon sale for like a hundred bucks. And it turns out there's a company. Are you guys aware of in tech? I think I've heard of it. Maybe. No. One of the things they've really made that's popular these

days is like a stainless steel dumbbell that has the self-centering logo on it so as you move the dumbbell stay centered turns it out they're about 20 minutes away and so i go over there to check it out and the guy goes you know what we do is we end up buying an entire like if a high school needs to upgrade we buy all of their old equipment, bring it into our warehouse, and wholesale it off. And then we sell them all their new stuff and install it. So it's like, if you want to come look, we've got all kinds of stuff. I went in there, they had a wall of crates of weights. So I bought weights for like 25 cents a pound and finished them up and used used that cheap bar built myself a bench pad they sold

me a heavy duty bench for like 25 bucks without the pad and i made my own pad because i did upholstery for uh i try i wanted to be a car stereo installer a long time ago so i went to school for that got really good at it and then never found a job because i live in a freaking cornfield um yeah then i started adding a little bit eventually at one point i had a full strongman gym i had a log a yoke farmer's handles but it was just such a hassle setting up so i sold all that had a belt squat had a ghd too much space just sold that and i'm like well shit what am i gonna do well then about time i discovered ben rice this was christmas break i'm sitting at home because i'm a uh you know teacher doing nothing fiance's working i'm like what the hell i'm gonna look at kabuki for something real quick

and i see they have all this stuff you know they have that clarna paying a split payment i'm looking at it i'm going i wonder if I qualify for split payment. So I add the cheapest thing that was in stock in the cart, which was a scratch and dent squat bar for like $719. Cause I really wanted the, the, uh, transformer. And so I'm like, Oh, I'm going to see if I qualify. Cause every time you qualify any other time, they click the button and it goes, you qualify for like $2,000. Okay.

Click the continue or don't. I click it. And it just goes through and buys the seven hundred dollar squat bar you qualified and it's ordered and this was like the friday after christmas so i email and i call and i email and i call and then finally i hear back oh no we're out until after the beginning of new year and so i end up getting a 700 barbell and i went well i can't return it because it's a scratch and debt model yes i'm stuck with a 700 barbell and a 400 pound squat so then i uh uh my friends thought it was really dumb i had seven seven hundred dollar barbell so i bought a transformer bar and i went you know what you know what really annoyed them what if i bought every bar kabuki has

legitimately it it started because i thought it would be funny just how annoyed it would make ben because ben was my coach for a while it's not it was it was hilarious because i was like hey ben guess what i uh i got, I got the, uh, the Cadillac bar. He's like, are you going to use it? And I go, probably not.

Yeah. Am I going to get strong now, Ben? Am I going to get strong? I use my Cadillac bar once a week. I use my Texas deadlift bar once a week. I don't have their new bars. And when I kept telling people,

I kept telling me, I kept telling them it's simple. You got to have every Kabuki bar. It's like world of Warcraft. If you get the set, you get the set bonus, right? If you wear all eight pieces of it.

So if I get all the Kabuki bars, then once a month, you can channel the power of Chris Duffin on a single lift and you get a 30 day cool down on it. So it's simple. I got to get all the bars so I can get that one lift a month. I don't think I would recommend wasting your money on their two economy

bars. Was it the Columbia bar? What's the new one? The 28.5 quote-unquote power bar. I don't need one of those. It's not a waste of money. You just need to mine more minerals. I mean, I've already got a Lu Xiaojun stainless power bar I've been trying to sell

on Facebook for like eight months and no one wants to buy it, even though I'm like, it is legitimately the exact same feel as the Rogue stainless power bar for way cheaper than what the Rogue one was. How many, uh, do you know how many bars you have?

Oh, let's count. switch cameras oh yeah here we go i love this this is the best i'll interview you every day because of this five six seven i got an axle how about a 300 curl bar why not sure i've got a i've got a straight curl bar over in the corner so that's which one not the damn you don't have the damn bell one over there do you i do not i did not uh i did not get the damn bell one um he gave me one of the um the core bars oh okay is that is that from last year yes yeah yeah i i snuck a few plates out yeah it's a Yeah, it's a really good bar. It's just I don't use it very much because when I use 28.5, it feels kind of – I don't know why.

It's not that much of a difference, but it just feels a little weird because I only use it for bench. It definitely feels a little bit. I had pretty much never – I mean I have always owned a Texas power bar, but i always defaulted to the rogue to the 29 power bar but then when uh you know big uh big xbc dave there likes his texas power bars on bench so then i was like okay i guess i'm gonna do a whole block of benching with the texas power bar so i don't think i've maybe benched with it once since that meet but i got a us uspa meet so i'm just using you know 29 millimeter bars until then and then as soon as that's over i'll switch back over to a texas power or to bench to prep for his because it really is it's noticeable like it just feels like it doesn't matter no it really doesn't but if you're ocd like me it's like it fucking

matters if the bar is how how girthy it is in your hand each time so no i i can definitely appreciate a large barbell collection like yours um hey here's the fun thing about uh about me that might bother both of you i have no clue how many millimeters any of my bars are just so you know yeah i've got the bare steel um power bar 2.0 uh i've got see it's fucking wild do you know that and i've got the texas deadlift bar bare steel 27 yeah yeah great didn't know any of that i i had a bells i've probably sold twice as many bars as this because at one point i i owned a stainless and a raw ohio power bar plus a bells of steel power bar and i greatly disliked it uh for different reasons than what you'd expect though um the cheap bar,

I used to buy weights off Facebook and the guy would just be like, here's a bar that came with it. I'm like, Oh gross. You know, some bolt in bar that you feel like it's going to fall apart. Now I gotta waste time selling this thing for like 30 bucks. Yeah.

But it was nice. Cause I ended up selling them all during COVID. I sold about 800 pounds of weights, but I wasn't going to jack it up. sold the weights like when they were never going to go with like two dollars a pound for just beat up plates i'm like i paid 50 cents a pound for myself for like 70 cents a pound yeah i just want to you know someone bought those and sold them for two dollars a pound though yeah yeah most of the people you're kind of people who are buying them we're buying a small chunk though so it wasn't like someone bought all 800 pounds it was like someone a woman i talked to was like i need a bar and like

225 okay i got you you'll meet him somewhere sell that i sold some for about a dollar a pound i think i paid two 250 a pound when i bought them during covid and because i just needed weight i ended up buying bumper plates and it turns out I fucking hate bumper plates. So I ended up just doing everything I could to get rid of those. The dollar pound, get them out of my basement. Well, but of course, this too. You know, when I was working with Ben, he hated kilos. I've always liked how kilos looked.

I've always liked how comp plates looked, especially in my gym. That was at the time a hundred percent Brown. And it looked like I was in the inside of UPS truck. I need some color. I cannot just have gray plates. So whenever the, this was the 2019 black Friday sale came around, I bought those plates. And when I tell people I bought those plates those plates the tree an extra pair of 20 kilos a pair of collars and a stainless steel power bar and all of that was about 600 less shipped to my door than just the plates on the black friday sale last year would have been

so i mean technically i made money off this i if you if you don't like the way your plates look, you can use our code at PlateSnacks and get a discount on some decals. Yeah, I'm going to call them a decal. I'm going to be very sad. Code unpaid. Code unpaid. Save some money on those PlateSnacks. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I mean, gym equipment talk. I have no clue what i'm going on

about i've got some like tri-grip neoprene shit because weight is weight to me they're calibrated they're all 45 pounds yeah close enough uh let's see i probably have three more things we can hit on i i have two games and i know joey's got one more question um i'll do a game then joey this question i'll do the last game, probably move into, well, what's my question. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to do a, I'll, I'll do the Mount Rushmore. You do your question. Then we'll finish. I'm still awake.

I promise. Okay. So, uh, you're familiar with the, the, you know, the Mount Rushmore game where I'm going to be a topic and you got to,

uh, give me your, uh, your, what is it for? Right. So, uh, I want to hear your Mount Rushmore for barbells in your home gym or Rushmore

for barbells. Yeah. Gosh. Okay. Number one, the bar that I recommend to the most people, whether you buy this bar or you buy a similar bar of the same type is the transformer bar. whether you buy this bar or you buy a similar bar of the same type is the transformer bar. Transformer bar is the bar that if I needed to use one every week,

I could use that. And I tell people, you don't have to spend $800 in transformer, get a, get a Titan bells of steel, whatever lead FTS safety squat bar, but a safety squat bar is so damn good. But I just like the adjustability.

And in fact, when i told you how stupid my bar selling was i had the black original unscrew the end pop it off rotate it i've used that and when this one when this one came out i put that one up for sale and bought this one had two transformer bars at the same time and so i sold it just because i wanted the pop adjustments but now i see the rogue one and I'm like, I'm going to sell it again and be the other one. But yeah, safety squat bar of some sort.

Yep. I wanted a Mars bar. Um, here's a fun fact for you. The guy who makes the Mars bars made one to fit Brian Shaw. And I contacted him directly about that one and he brought it in and i put it on and it does not fit my chest oh wow i am fatter than brian shaw so i'd say bigger i mean just fatter legitimately uh nate that is the episode title this week uh someone write that down nate uh someone text that

to nate now i'm fatter than b. I, that has to be the episode title. So I've, I've tried both the, uh, the bars bars. I don't know. I just, I didn't, I didn't,

I didn't, I wasn't a fan, but I don't know. Maybe someday. I'm also, I'm also not a low bar squatter. Like whenever you see the people low bar and I see them from the front and it looks like the bars coming out mid shoulder,

like John Keiko is really low. Everyone tells me, oh yeah, you're doing low bar. And I look at myself and i'm i squat with like the same position as ray and i go ray's doing like a high bar he's doing like what i call uh super heavyweight low bar which is as low as we can get it before it starts building up on our chubs but um yeah so that'd be my primary primary of course

you've got to have a deadlift bar yep and if you're going to have a deadlift bar you might as well have the cheatiest one that fits in all federations and i have the kabuki deadlift bar ever since i got that thing i won't say my deadlift has gone up but i will say i can safely whenever i was lifting regularly and not hurt i could pull up to like 550 with no chalk and never had to worry about tearing a hand or anything because the grip i feel this neural is like perfect i've used the texas i've used uh rogue and rogue i'm sorry bill hanger i'm sorry but i do not like your deadlift bar it is the slickest thing known to man um also stick i wanted it yeah yeah and i i really want to really wanted a mammoth bar just for the memes of having a 10-foot bar

in an 11-foot gym. But then, of course, Arsenal went out of business, so I can't get one. So we got those two. Dude, that's tough. I'm saving one because one is my go-to savior of my life every day I use it. I'd have to say trap bar kabuki trap bar when i don't feel like pulling sumo because i am a large large person who pulls

sumo uh when i want to just pick up weights and not think about it i just throw the trap bar down and uh load her up and let her rip i i hated it at first could not figure out how to pull on it and then last year i did an online meet i did the garage gym meet and uh because average joes was one of the uh he was one of the announcers for the stream of it where they went over people's lifts and he's like you gotta do it and i go well i guess i gotta do it so i never been able to pull over 500 on it and i pulled like 683 on it because it just clicked all of a sudden oh i'm doing it wrong i'm bending too far over like i'm pretending it's a conventional deadlift not a trap bar deadlift so those three my final one has to be my first mistaken purchase, the bar that I cannot live without, the squat bar.

I am way too immobile to get under. I cannot fit under a power bar anymore. My shoulders, I cannot figure out. Every time I ask someone, how do I work on mobility, their answer is, you got to do shoulder mobility. And I go, great, thank you. I wanted to hear a circle. But the squat bar lets me get my big butt under a bar i can reach all the way to the edge in fact i am hand hand to hand collar to collar on an eight foot squat bar and i feel cramped

sometimes so that combined with uh do i have them over there? The 12-11 rack extenders, the ones that move the J-Cups in, I don't have to worry about squishing my hands when I come back in. Those make squatting so good for a person who is a lot more spherical.

That's spherical. That's good. I'm surprised you don't use the Cadillac bar more if you're that fucked up on your shoulders man a neutral grip and bench press is like my go to when I have any kind of shoulder or like pec issue I don't have issues

I just don't have the flexibility like I get under the bar I cannot get when I get under the bar on a power bar and get it on my back and my hands in a comfortable position. It's like on my third vertebrae up the neck. Like I cannot get my shoulders down and I don't know. I just don't know what I need to do to get that.

Like I mean, I, whenever I was working out regularly, every day would start with shoulder mobility, chest stretch, like opening up thecs trying to stretch the lats by hanging it just never got better never got any different well i guess as long as you stay away from us apl you should be good or in power in america you know well i ain't got to worry about that because a couple years ago i found out my test levels were low enough i could be considered a female in the Olympics. So I said, I got to fix that. Nice. So start calling you Juicy Justin. Hey, just a little bit of juice. Just a side of juice.

A little sippy cup. Juice adjacent. All right, Joe, you got something for him? Yeah. There's a fun thing that happens whenever we're recording is just the craziest shit gets sent to me while we're recording um and i'm gonna break something now i'm not gonna break too much i have a little permission to do so. But I am now aware of who the last person to get a Masonomics tattoo is. So I know Tanner said there's one more person and he's not telling us who it is.

I have now been chatting with that person. They have shown me the picture. I know who that person is. Because again, the Masonomics Tattoo Club is an elite club there's not very many of us I think five I think there's five or less of us but now I am now completely aware of who that person is it's so funny that this happens while I'm recording talking to you guys and then last week like this big guest that I really want to get on confirmed while we're recording and like i lost my mind in the middle of talking i think

it wasn't lou but it was uh tara like whoo or lara wow this is a wild game this is a wild game we play here doing this massonomics podcast like and the question is which is it someone you would have expected podcast personally yes uh this massonomics based podcast i guess because like like like it's just me i'm a nobody and people are responding to me like big names and telling me things it's it's fucking great i do have a question i do have a question. There's two, I think, isn't there? I mean, well, I was going to finish the FMK, but do whatever you want. Fucking balloons. You see that?

Okay. Yeah. Let's do that. I actually have a thing. So I don't know how many episodes you've listened to, but we have a lot of musicians in the crew. Most of them are bassists. There's some wild amount of bassists. So don't look over here yeah so um let's say we've got a huge amount of bassists i used to do some singing um i know we've got a drummer at least

one drummer i think we've had a guitarist um we had a who is it that plays a yeah yeah drummer was lou so in the crew band what are you playing because you are a band teacher this is the reason i'm asking i want to give people this background you're a band teacher you teach children to play which i know is impossible to do so you have all the patience of Job. What are you playing, though, in the crew band? You can't see the triangle. Well, that's the sad thing is I play the instrument that is the most stereotypical for me. And I bet I don't even have to have you guys guess. You can probably guess.

The stand-up bass like Peter Ostolf. I do play bass. I mean, I do play electric bass. I don't stand-up bass, though. No? You're not like typo negative just playing're not stand-up bass though no you're not like typo negative just playing it like it's a real bass because you're a giant human i mean i i took a bass class in college and uh i was the only person who they didn't have to even worry about the end pin because i could just i had to like pick it up all the way to play it i always

say that because i've stood next to you like i um i have stories at the arnold um the story at the arnold is of course not even involving me or you but it's grant asking hey where's justin and then looking just yelling somebody go get justin and then i had to fight the saturday crowd i was just like, I'm on it. Cause I'm just like a nerd at the Arnold trying to help people cooler than me. I was like, I'm on it.

And then I'm like fighting the crowd up through like the bells of steel all the way up to the mass nomics thing to find you. You're just like, uh, yeah, I guess I have that camera. And then like, we had to like fight our way back to the strength co-booth um but yeah if anybody's yeah if anybody wants to see i probably

come up to justin's hip on my size like i'm dwarved by him um so that's why i made the the stand-up bass joke but yeah what what instrument you're gonna play so i played a little bit of everything i like i told you guys i grew up in the middle of nowhere, middle of a cornfield. It was me and my dad. It didn't have a lot to do. This was right about the time internet existed, and we didn't have it for sure.

So I learned how to play saxophone, flute, clarinet, trumpet, trombone, and drum set, mostly on my own, living in a cornfield because I had nothing better to do. And then I got to high school, and I've been on the same instrument since high school which is the tuba so i've been playing tuba since like 2001 with like a five-year hiatus when i didn't know what i wanted to do and i went back to school and playing tuba ever since but now you know as a band director i pretty much have to play everything but tuba because i don't really have there's not a whole lot of sixth grade tuba players

um i do you mentioned bass i uh one of the games i stream on twitch is a game called rocksmith where you plug in an actual bass or guitar and you play a game that's almost almost like guitar hero but the actual notes on the actual instrument and there are like a few it's really it's really cool because people can make their own dlc for it like whatever sound they want and so there's all kinds of songs on there great great music bad music like trash arrangements so i've been getting back into playing bass lately because of that but uh for a band wise i've pretty much only ever played drums and bass in like a band band.

Or, you know, if we want to, if we want to go to the greatest music of all time, I could probably pick up a trombone and play some Scott with it. Oh, interesting. I think you're our first Scott fan. We've had metal fans,

country fans, classical fans. Well, I like all that too, but, um, but Scott, I mean mean if i'm lifting i probably have a ska playlist and spotify is so good at it now that i just say like you know

here's a playlist of songs i've listened to before and just send me stuff that you think i'll like and 99% of the time it sends me stuff i like. I just let the AI roll the playlist and my friend comes in, my friend Rocket, he's from Southern California so of course he's gotta like Ska, right? Southern California is where it started. No, he hates Ska. Every time he comes in, he just talks mad shit on it.

But does he like Red Hot Chili Peppers? No. Oh, good. Okay, yeah. I agree with that too. The Bucky California. Who's the the greatest sky band of all time that's tough i mean greatest in terms of quality or greatest in terms of reach because if you want reach it's real big fish probably because even if you hate sky you probably know real big fish they were in they were in the one of the best movies of all time basketball yep they were the house band for the for the milwaukee i think i'll have myself a beer yep um i've seen in person streetlight manifesto still blows my mind how well

together they can play live it sounds like an angrier faster version of their recordings with how clean it is are the dropkick murphy ska that's it there's a guy they have ska elements they do there's a guy i want to say it's the guy that's his name was was it the punk rock nba on youtube he does a whole bunch of stuff like in-depth videos about music. I know. Yeah. I got, I could picture him. He's got the eye twitch.

I know exactly who you're talking about. I thought it was him. It might not have been him, but someone did a video that was like, what is Scott? And really the big thing behind Scott is an upbeat, not upbeat like happy, but an emphasis on the upbeats of music. So instead of being like 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, the guitar is going to be like on the upbeat of the music. So it's like Real Big Fish does it a lot in all their songs. So like real big fish does it a lot in all their songs. They'll be like fast song,

but playing a little upbeat, you get that thing happening. That is technically what he claims sky is. Other than that, you get like the mix of like whatever genres it could be. It's my grants. My game is like that. Yeah. Reggae came from,

I think reggae came from ska originally ska the the idea of ska has been around since like the 1930s like the original ska and then now it's molded into this more ska punk kind of thing yep but um in in my in my belief i would call the drop kick murphy's at least sky adjacent. Yeah. That's a good word, especially for this podcast. That's a good way to describe it. Yeah, they're at least in the family. They're at least welcome to the table when you're at the

sky party. But, you know, I'm not going to kick out some dropkick Murphys. Yeah, they're invited to the hot dog barbecue. Yeah, exactly. Vegan hot dog barbecue, of course, knowing the drop kicks yeah all right yeah i'm gonna be eating the beef ones no yeah me too i guess we've bored everybody enough here with our music talk it's a it's a fun thing it's interesting that like somebody pointed out that just my knowledge of music is kind of crazy so i love being able to just like hear everybody else get passionate about music i might not know enough i know i don't know a lot but i

know enough to trigger that passion in people oh yeah and that's what i love doing every time every time i do the same thing with anime i don't watch anime but i know enough about anime to say the wrong things to people that are really excited about it and be like, oh, yeah, it's just like when I was talking about the Dragon Balls. And they're like, no, that's not it. That's not anything. You just enough. OK, that's triggering people like you're gaslighting them at that point. But like me with Star Trek versus Star Wars, the moment somebody tries to out nerd me, I go, well, what's the difference?

Like we've been talking about it for weeks. What's the difference? Because it gets people so mad yes it's so much fun sometimes it is i i think keith is bored no no he's got the same face i had during all the barbell talk trying to like trying to grasp how long we okay we've been going like an hour 40 all right calm hour or forty calm down I just we got two more probably I have one

no no no it's an unpaid overrated you go ahead there's one at the top we skipped over the what is the one piece of Maxonomics merch you wish you had got before it went into the vault gosh I'm trying to think of what I even missed What is the one piece of Maxonomics merch you wish you had got before it went into the vault? Gosh. I'm trying to think of what I even missed.

Because there was a lot of stuff. I have a lot of stuff. Like, I guess I don't have the original run of the lift and bench heavy stuff. I have, like, the rerun that came back after like you know covid times because i whenever i was there the first time in 19 that was their first booth and i remember seeing this stuff and i and you know i was just at my first job at that time too so i didn't also i'm a teacher so i'm not rolling the money but yeah i was i looked at the shorts and I went, ah, I'm going to get some someday. But you know what?

What I really wish, and this is going to be my subtle jab to Tanner and Tommy. I would really love some lift shorts three in plus sizes. Give me some girthy boy shorts that I can wear around. And, you know, I've been wanting the shorts. I still have my lift shorts. I have my deadlifter shorts. I have my curl shorts. But I wanted the lift shorts three.

I'm just not there. I'm not skinny enough to fit in the big ones. I say skinny enough, but I'm also like the size of like two, 100 kilo lifters. So I don't think I'm ever going to be there. Those were the, uh, those are one of the $2 bills in the pockets. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I, for some reason, whatever I bought those ones, like when I was like leaving the cusp of kind of like 200 ish pounds and getting like significantly bigger and i remember just squatting down and like a pair of mediums just blowing the

quad completely out of them i was like all right i guess i'm shocked i haven't smashed through mine i asked recently if there are any lift silkies around too because my life silkies are just getting a little small well like a little small comparatively because like they're made to be small like those silkies are boudoir shorts for sure like i i like them though they're perfect for deadlifts and squats i did i did buy a pair of not theirs but because i found a company that made like really really big size silkies and i bought a pair just to wear on stream once because it'd be funny and then i wore them on stream and i was like oh boy i'm about to uh slip one of the boys out there but i don't wear those anymore yeah

the mouse is out the house um yeah can you send me that company because i am interested in more silkies i'd have to remember the name all i I remember was it had a, it had a, a picture of a tiger. I don't like it. It said thigh of the tiger. Oh no. I know the company that shall not be named recently released some velour shorts. And I was like,

damn it. I really want velour shorts, but I don't want to give you money. So like the company that shall not be named makes shirts about like being large and they stop in 2XL. Good job, Omar. You kind of missed the point. We said shall not be named, Keith.

Keitherton. Asked for nothing. David Keitherton. I think he might have me banned by now. I used to send him pictures of my calves after a workout. So I've got like 22-inch fat guy calves. I love it. Well, I think we covered a good amount of what we had.

Is there anything else? Just jumping out at you before we go to FMK? Nah, but leave the second one for me. Because I want to talk about that one a little longer yeah oh for on the FMK no the unpaid underrated

oh yeah yeah yeah I gotcha yeah move to FMK oh wait we're losing them I'm just standing up my buns are my stool's not meant for long term buns sitting Aaron at the boys yeah just you know give the cheeks a rest so we're gonna hit you a little My stool is not meant for long-term bun sitting. Aaron at the boys? Yeah, just, you know, give him the cheeks a rest.

We're going to hit you a little fuck, marry, kill here. I'm going to go. So three things specifically picked for you. Wait, the F is for fuck? Yeah, yeah. Fuck off. All right, Justin. So FMK, Working the Masonomics booth at the Arnold. Live streaming on Twitch.

Playing World of Warships. FMK. Hashtag use your druthers. Okay, this is a relatively easy one. So, definitely

kill World of Warships. Okay. okay i love the game but good lord does that company know how to make everything cost money i mean like yeah so they they have this thing where they're like hey uh we've got like 700 ships in the game and most of them you can earn by just playing. But if you buy this bundle, you get boost that gave you more XP to earn the ships faster. And by the way, the lower ships suck.

So, uh, you might want to get some boosts. You're like, I'm going to get some boosts. They're like, all right, now you got the top ship in this line.

Do you want a camo? We'll give you the first one discount. It's only 3,200 coins. You're like the first one discount it's only 3200 coins you're like oh how much is 3200 coins in real money oh like 14 for a camo you're like how much is this thing full price like 45 for a camouflage you're like this is dumb i'm gonna buy it i hate that i'm gonna give you money yeah it's that thing where it's like i want to play a game i want to look cool so kill it because i hate that i i missed you know you had a game you had the full game you played you got stuff boom we're yelling at the cloud kind of thing like these kids with

their cloud-based gaming today no i just sound like keith last week yeah definitely now now here's the tough one yeah who do you fuck who do you marry okay i would have to say you would have to fuck working in my economics booth because because once a year is good enough yeah i mean i mean once a year and the thing is too it's like when you when you're built like me and you look like me that once a year makes you feel important and when you and when you're fucking the massonomics booth you have the luxury of fucking a bunch of other booths as i shared earlier because now you're fucking the strength booth you're probably fucking one of the like build fast formula booth because now you're fucking the Strength Co. booth. You're probably fucking one of the, like, Build Fast Formula booth. You know you're fucking the Obsidian Ammonia booth.

Like, you know, you're working there, but you're the slut of all of the U.S. onomics groups. As a person who went to the Arnold, as a person who knew nothing. So it was weird. The first time I went to the Arnold, I knew nobody knew nothing. I walked in and I saw Ray Williams and I went, that's a big boy. I didn't know who he was. And then the first, the first thing that happened was I watched him squat a thousand pounds. And that was like my six month lifting powerlifting.

And I go, Jesus, you could do that. And then the next day, I got to walk up to him at the SPD booth and be like, hey, Ray, you're big. I'm big. Where do we find big guy shoes? And we talked about shoes. And I'm like, holy shit, how if there's just people? And they're nice people. And so then, like, going back the next time, the whole time, you mentioned earlier driving or, like, listening to podcasts back to back. We drove to the Arnold. Rachel did not know who these guys were i told her hey yeah they asked if i could help out if i have some time to help out so we might be around their

booth a little bit uh she's like all right like who are they so the whole way out there we listened to the podcast and then we got there on the way back listen to the new podcast that just dropped on sunday night and she's like oh it makes so much more sense now and it's just it was like a whole experience because like now she loves going out there and hanging with the guys because i mean let's be honest midwestern people we all had fun not many there's not many midwestern people that don't get along with Midwestern people. And on top of that, whenever we share similar interests, even better. I mean, I can hang out with the people who go deer hunting all day.

I ain't getting up at three in the morning to go sit in a tree. But if we're all talking about picking up heavy circles and putting them back down, yeah, sure. Ontario is not Midwest, but I can assure you I did not feel out of place once. I walked into the cooler and I was like, I have beer, who's got room? And two people went, I've got room. So, yeah.

Yeah, and the reason I put married for Twitch is because there's easily 50 people that I now know through Twitch that I know better than anybody i know locally like i am the most introverted extrovert that i've ever ran into i don't like going out and being around general people but i do like talking to people and i I think that's just the Midwestern thing.

Midwestern people are born to bullshit. Like you walk down the street, someone says, hi, you can talk for five minutes. It just does not, you know, I don't do it around here because none of the people around here are my

thing, but Twitch, we're all lifting. I mean, I have friends who are all various forms of lifting and people don't even lift in fact i used to have people watching me regularly who would stay up to like three in the morning to watch me from like belgium because they're just hanging out and i'm like this is cool as shit so it's similar it could probably flip either way depending on the time of the day

but i really i mean legitimately tanner and tommy letting me have the opportunity to help at the booth is one of the few things that keeps me coming back to the arnold because wandering around aimlessly is cool for a day but i can't get three days out of it and having a place to just go back and you know yeah and just hanging out there people coming by asking questions and then you get to see people just get to sit out to the side of the lines and watch this stuff happen is so much more fun than getting stuck

in a crowd it's our home base it 100% is at the Arnold and that's like can I leave my bag here but then like you know you do your round you go say hi to everybody then you come back and you're like yeah I'm gonna help you sell for a few minutes and then you just stand here and i i you know well i want that shirt and oh we only have it in large yeah but i'm a medium and then like three people behind the counter will go so get

bigger right like i know that i know because that happened at the arnold last year and the kid like oh my god that's true okay Okay. I'll take it. Like, it was like, it's just like, yeah, it is. It's the home base for the silliness. And you're sitting there, like, you're just behind the counter. You're having a beer, you're helping them sell some stuff. I'm not taking any money. Cause like, I'm not that in like, and then like Chris Duffin standing there, he sent in a text, Finn's over there having a drink. Right. Yeah. yeah dan bell comes over like and you're just in this kiosk and these people are coming over that are just these big names and you're like i'm just here to help massonomics do well

so yeah i mean like in the last year alone so the first two years ago the first year i was able to help out i got talked a bit dan bell and dan bell being a super heavyweight he is like you're one of the uh one of the mount rushmore of heavyweight lifters yeah and talking to dan bell then the second year i come back and he's there and i legitimately had like a 20 minute conversation with dan bell and i cannot oh what's his name the guy who uh runs lift large lifted i can't And I legitimately had like a 20 minute conversation with Dan Bell. And I can, Oh, what's his name? The guy who runs lift large. I can't remember his name,

but yeah. And we're all three having a conversation about fat guy, sex positions. This is the most up my alley, just ridiculous shit because you know, I'm not allowed to say the most up my alley, just ridiculous shit. Because, you know, I'm not allowed to say shit like this in front of kids. So when I come home, my language goes wild. And being able to sit there and talk with Dan about how fucking bad his blood pressure was whenever he was first trying to take gear and how fucked up it got.

And then he's talking about all this stuff like that. And then one day, everyone all this stuff like that. And then one day, everyone left. Everything's wrapping up. And Juju comes up. And Juju, not having to be on, not having to be Juju, just getting to be John Call standing there, just talking with him for a couple minutes.

Or one day Jim Wendler came up, and I talked to Wendler. And he sat down. He's like, look, man, you man you gotta set a goal say i'm gonna get to this goal at that goal get out of power lifting just get back to fitness get down to a good weight you'll feel great but get to that goal you know talking about goal setting in life and it's like it's crazy just the stuff that comes up naturally yeah whatever people get to just be people and they don't have to be online entertainers all the time. And we get to do that at the Mastinomics booth. At the Mastinomics booth. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. And I think the Sunday was that. I won't be there this Sunday unless I can convince Steve to stay. If we can get some media passes or booth passes for one day, but we only bought tickets for the Saturday because we wanted to make sure we didn't overspend this week this year but the Sunday was definitely like that's how it was you were walking around there was nobody there right like there was just like but and you were just yeah you got to walk up and just talk to like Grant and and and Tanner and Tommy and all that. And that's actually where I got your signature. Yeah.

Because it was the Sunday that I said everybody sign this and you're here at the bottom. Joey's holding up the Mastanomics pendant. Yep. The smallest mini and Rachel. Got you both to sign it. That's good stuff.

Yeah. And I don't know if you guys got to see it last year. One of the best things happened towards the end when everyone was breaking stuff down. Huck, of course, is doing Huck things. Everyone else is breaking stuff down. His booth hasn't even moved yet. And I'm talking from like downtown, like Stone Cold Steve Austin distance.

He's like, throw me a beer. Someone chucks a beer straight into his junk i mean it was like tom brady going for the touchdown i didn't see that i'm surprised i never heard that too because he and he dropped like a ton of bricks and rachel and i were just like jesus christ did this just happen oh god i just woke my wake up i'm laughing so fucking hard wouldn't happen to a better guy literally all huck ever did was talk about the arnold for like you know like six months after it but i don't know he was

slammed he was hammered the whole time more than me he was doing the first day he did 40 beers the whole day while he was there, and that wasn't even included in what's after. Yeah, that was the Friday. I was there with him for some of those. He's a machine. That might have been the most thorough FMK answer, and I'm glad it segued a little bit,

and I enjoyed all that conversation. I think if anyone has listened to this and is anywhere near Columbus and doesn't go to the Arnold, what the Columbus and doesn't go to the Arnold what the fuck go to the Arnold for the animal cage go to the Arnold for the strongman go to the Arnold hoping you're going to see Arnold but make sure

you're stopping at the booths make sure you're coming to the Masonomics booth make sure you're coming to the Huck Finn booth that little corner is so wild right? it's just it's it's the craziest portion of i think the arnold okay the medieval fighting is probably the craziest part of the arnold's because you know there's just dudes swinging swords and armor that might be the craziest part

but like where we were probably the second craziest thing this year everybody's there larping as strong that's that's that's the thing what we do with the arnold this year it's legitimately going to be a nut house because we're right next to the uh the peanut butter right across from the flavored nut people oh that smell is going to make me gag for hours peanut butter oh and where we're around a quarter from a uh from a meal prep place and a protein ice cream protein gelato place i'm like good lord yeah we're food right in the middle of massonomics heaven apparently you want to get unpaid underrated uh well i first have to i have to pick the bone about the uh the the the your preference of

peanut butter man how are you gonna go with chunky i don't get it like it's chunky all the way chunky boys like chunky peanut butter anyone two words yep mouth feel so you guys didn't see that but i mouthed it as he said it perfectly synonymously. Yes, that was crazy. That's got to be posted somewhere. To go with this, chunky peanut butter,

no jelly. You can't have jelly. Jam, maybe. Honey. Preserves. Little honey. Honey is good. Honey, you put the peanut butter down honey on top of the peanut butter preserves on the other side you gotta have that chunk to your like the seeds and i love a good blackberry preserves so you get chunks of blackberry you get the seeds in it oh it's the only way i can do it because i hated peanut butter growing up

but then i was like oh wait you can make textures so you buy like the fancy bread like the dave's seven seed bread or whatever that has like this stuff on the outside and the little chunky pieces in the middle of the bread and it's like this tastes like a sandwich not like a punishment yep all right i had to get out of the way because there were some there were some some chunky and creamy peanut butter talk and everyone had to bust my balls. Sorry, whipped. Yeah, who was it? Jeff brought that back.

I love that we have niche shit that people even drop in the other boards. We're getting you and you references in the random other Discord channels and I just love that. But yeah, unpaid

or underrated is the game we play. We came up with it by ourselves. It's entirely Jody and I's creation with a little bit of help from Nate. We're going to hand pick three topics each. So six topics total for a big mini here. Obviously there is no overrated

so it's either unpaid, unpaid, no one wants to be unpaid. So that sucks. And underrated, it means amazing. So I'm going to dive right in here or off the bat. My number one is going to be,

what do you think? Unpaid or underrated three pound steak dinners. Holy entirely underrated, especially if you happen to be in Illinois, in the area of peoria go to alexander steakhouse 70 bucks gets you a three pound steak plus a trip to their salad bar and a baked potato if you want it i got fries this time so i'm going to try something different and if you get it they give you a gift card for 20 off the the next time, so it becomes a $50 steak next year. That's ridiculous.

And it's a nice snack. Nice. Now, you did mention Peoria. I know I've heard Tom mention that town. So, like, do you know how close you are to, like, you know, Tom and Tom or any of those guys? Because I know they've done some meetups before in the past.

I think John Millett's gym in one of the other towns would have been, like, an hour away from where he was at so i'm not really i didn't know if you follow huck finn enough to actually have ever gone to like a meet and greet or done anything i never did because i'm like four and a half hours from peoria that's where this conference is every year but from peoria to where huck lives is like maybe an hour because i remember whenever i was looking for jobs in 2020 i saw a job and i looked at it and i went why does this town sound so familiar and then i looked over and i saw where on the map where huck worked and i was like oh shit that would be interesting they're always

name dropping towns and stuff i feel like i know like i i could name like five or six different towns in chicago just between like what they say on the podcast. I can name way too many fucking towns in South Dakota now too. At least three. Yeah, a handful. Alright, so I got one here. Unpaid or underrated? Harry and the Hendersons.

The movie. You know, I can't say I could not say that it's unpaid because it's got to be it was good for its time it's one of those movies that was good for its time is it going to withstand the test of time probably not but it is very entertaining and it has to be underrated just because i mean i got a kick out of it when I was little. It always reminded me of my uncles who had gigantic ZZ Top beards. And then I finally got a ZZ Top beard and I was like, oh shit, that's me now.

Nice. Well, I ask that because, you know, you've been known to lift in some Sasquatch suits. And I was just like, as soon as I saw that, I was like, well, I mean, I could have gone with like literally Sasquatch. But I was like, Harry and the Hendersons, a little obscure. Now, John Lithgow was in that movie, wasn't he? Yes. Yeah.

So that's immediate perfect movie. John Lithgow is the best. Yeah. Everybody says Daniel Day-Lewis is the greatest actor of our time, but we all know it's John Lithgow. Dude, his... Yeah.

When he was the... Well, I'm not Lithgow dude his when he was the when he was a character in a season of Dexter that was creepy cause he was like no he was the Trinity Killer I didn't want a spoiler alert oh my god I haven't seen Dexter everybody fucking watch it

it's over but he's Don Quixote okay he's Don Quixote. Okay? He's um Dick in Third Rock from the Sun. He's the dad in

Harry and the Hendersons. Like John Lithgow. He's Farquaad. John Lithgow has been there with us since we were children. And he's still here with us now. Probably, like, he's got to be recognized at some point as one of the greatest actors. He did, um, the one that really sticks out to me was one of the, it wasn't, it was the one you already mentioned.

The, uh, the Stephen King where there's, like, the monster on the wing. And he's like, there's something on the, there's something on the plane or something on the wing. And he's like. Was he in that? he in that yeah he was isn't he the my mistake I swear to god he was the guy that was freaking out on the William Shatner was in that yeah William Shatner was because he that's where he had his very stereotypical there's something on

the wing then maybe I'm I'll have to look that up later I'm you know who john lithgow is obviously but like that dude has been like in everything ever since we were kids and it's all been iconic shit oh and here's a fun fact for you related to uh i uh just got a book while i was at that conference that was it's a little kids music book and it's called, was it the remarkable? Oh gosh.

I'm going to John Lithgow wrote this book. Oh yeah. Yeah. He does do that too. Yeah. The remarkable Farkel McBride is a little kid's book for kindergarten class about a kid who plays an instrument and is super good at it. And then because he's so good at it,

he just breaks the instrument and gets a new one and so it's a book that i bought to read to the kids about introducing instruments and there's actual voiceover of him reading the book on youtube i could just play for the kids if i wasn't there um yeah i'm gonna find that i think yeah my i have a kindergarten son so good book right now Right now we're into the Okidoki Brothers. We finally got into that. Have you heard of them? I have seen them. I've never read them, but I've seen kids carrying them.

Oh yeah, the Okidoki Brothers are music. Oh, music. Oh no. I figured something else in. Some book the kids had. Yeah, they're from the Appalachians. They do books I think. They do movies too but um the the song right now in our in our house that's very popular is the abominable yeti and howl oh yeah they did they had a i saw an advertisement didn't they do a show or something or have a movie they're working on i think so yeah but the howl song

is really cute because my kids both just start howling like wolves through the entire song and my little girl throws her head back and howls with pure abandon during this song and it is glorious to watch because i want to rate i want to raise feral children of course but they got a grammy yeah i didn't realize that they do yeah they do then and to be honest the music doesn't suck i actually find myself listening to it without the kids around that's tough for a parent to find something that the kid will want to listen to that isn't just just the lowest common denominator crap yep yeah the okie dokie brothers are up there very cool bit bluegrass bit country but really fun sorry keith what's your name you're good uh i'm gonna close out my three

with i don't know how to i don't know which way is going to get a better answer so either strip clubs in general or being a bouncer at strip clubs whatever you think of a funnier answer my god that is underrated. I wholly thank my ability to be a kindergarten teacher today on being a bouncer at a strip club. I hated people. I worked at McDonald's and Walmart when I was in high school, and that instills a solid dislike for everybody. And when I worked at the strip club,

I was the most introverted, like sitting at a computer playing Diablo 2 guy. And all of a sudden, you're surrounded by boobies, and you're like, I've never seen more than two of those at a time. I didn't know that existed. And then you're forced to be around drunk idiots and forced to figure out how to de-escalate drunk idiots. drunk idiots. So being able to manage drunk college kids around the St. Louis area and crazy old guys and,

you know, dealing with all the stuff that happens on the, the old East St. Louis side of stuff where it gets a little rough occasionally. It really made me better at just being there doing stuff. Like I was the kind of person person i would have never talked to anybody if i went to the arnold when i was right out of high school i wouldn't talk to anybody i didn't know but you go there and suddenly you walk in first thing that happens you walk in the door for your shift some drunk guy goes let me buy you a drink and a bartender gives you a rocks glass

full of 151 and you just down it like a shot and that's the start of your work day things go different very quick and you learn a lot about just interpersonal relations not not those kind of interpersonal relations but that's kind of where you're talking to people but yeah it was god it was an experience and to make it even funnier i had a manager who the store manager of my mcdonald's who i always thought she hated my guts i was dating this girl in high school she became a manager at mcdonald's she became like this this store manager's second in command and then she ended up breaking up with me like women do in high school and we always argued so

she didn't like me i'm at the strip club one night and who walks in the door but that manager and her boyfriend to go into strip club and she is just gone hammered and she's like i never hated you i just we always i always talked with your ex about you and she always told me all these bad things and i never knew they were all just her being a 18 year old girl saying everything that she thinks about boyfriends. It sounds like, well, Jesus, I've never been apologized to by a drunken boss at a strip club before. That's a new one.

So I highly recommend if you are a young man or a young woman and you want to have an experience, get a job at any kind of club, not a nightclub, a bar, something. You will learn how to deal with people very super quick, and you will learn lots of ways of managing stuff. Now, I will say I'm firmly better at managing adults and older kids than I am with younger kids, because that's a whole different set of crazy. But yeah, I think my ability to talk to kids, to talk in front of groups, to talk in front of whatever is 100% because of my experience as a strip club bouncer. And at the time, I had a sweet mustache and couldn't grow a beard. So I got to wear a white tuxedo with a top hat and used to have people come up to me and talk to me in Spanish because they thought my mustache made me look like I was Mexican.

Hell yeah. And so I even learned a little bit of Spanish back then. Un pequeño. Un pequeño espanol. How long did you work there, give or take? About 18 months. Okay. A year and a half.

A year and a half of walking in every night and seeing a 110-inch projector screen walking in every night and seeing 110 inch projector screenplay in the same adult films on repeat it got to the point where you you just be watching it and like some new guy being there at the bar you're talking to like hey dude check this out it's about to get really crazy up on the screen they're like what oh you're like yeah it's something ain't it it's like it's so weird that they just play porn in strip clubs i've never seen that i've been to so many strip clubs i've never seen that in my life oh my god i actually remember the last one i went to there was no not the last one i went to the one that i went to i haven't been to a

strip club since i was like 25 and i'm going on 40 so it's been a while but like yeah like you'd go in and there would just be four screens. One didn't work. Three were just blasting different porn. And you're like, okay, so there's genitals there. There's genitals over there. I don't need this

much raw flesh in my eyes. I don't need this much. But yeah. When I worked there there i started when i was 19 and i quit when i was 20 and i had never had alcohol before in my life and it wasn't until i was around some of the craziness that happens with the women at the strip clubs whatever they are you know fighting each other i saw i saw a younger woman threatening an older woman i'm talking like an 18 year old girl threatening like a 40 year old girl who were both dancers and the 18 year old

girl took off her thigh high boot to try to swing it like a mega setter and the 40 year old girl tried to uh break off a bottle into a bar shake and i was like oh you see the chill out here that's a little much yeah you know you get this you get that i'm like i need i probably should start drinking a little yeah because i was working the strip club they let me drink for free even though i was underage don't tell them which one it was but i'm not gonna say anything but it's yeah and that's kind of crazy it's again it's an energy that i'm just not into anymore i'm just too old for that shit like i have no patience if somebody said to me right now let's go to the peelers i'd be like okay and then i would probably just like sit in the corner and be like i don't want to be

here but i'm happy you're here because i love you and you're my friend or whatever right like like support them um well as a 19 year old guy who never had good luck with women it really helped me talking to women too because no one can make you feel more important for 30 seconds than a stripper who wants to give you a lap dance. And you're like, nope, I ain't paying 50, 75 bucks. And they're like, go on. The next person, the next one comes up and you're like, wow, I must have something. Oh, no, wait, I'm going to strip up shit. No, wait, damn it.

I must have something. Oh, no, wait. I mean, I shouldn't have shit. No, wait. Damn it. But also that you shouldn't have been drinking while you were working because I know that part of the rule is that they're not allowed to give you booze. They have to give you like fake booze. Oh.

Yeah, they're not supposed to do that shit. Let me tell you our rule. We had two bartenders who were exceptional bartenders. By exceptional, I mean they were salesmen out in the wazoo. And one of them came up to me one day and she's training me how to bar back she's like here's where you stock this here's where you stock this she goes okay as long as the owner is here you are not behind a bar other than stocking yes gotcha as soon as the owner leaves i'm going to teach you how to bartend because here's the hierarchy of bartending if If I get drunk, I flirt with more

guys and I get more tips. And at the end of the night, I tip you 10% of my tips for barbeque. And if I get the waitresses a little buzzed, they flirt with the guys, they get more tips, tip the bartender more tips, which means I get more tips. So it turned into, I learned how to bartend and drink heavily at the same time and so at one point between the two bartenders myself and six waitresses three on each side over the course of a four-hour period we went through nine bottles of vodka just drinking ourselves yeah i and i mean i was i got a i got a tolerance like mad one night I broke the top off a vodka bottle, and the bartender said, you're going to drink it. And I said, the tops broke off.

So she poured it through a coffee filter and made it into a full bottle-sized Jager bottle. Vodka Red Bull? Yeah, Vodka Red Bull. A cherry bottle. That's what I was thinking of. And she's like, you're going to drink it. So I did. I drank almost a whole bottle of vodka and i

remember standing at the bar like lean back eyes closed close my eyes and i opened my eyes and i was in the walk-in cooler and the bartender comes busting in and she goes where have you been we've been looking for you for like an hour and i went what yeah i'm here dying that was the first time i ever blacked out that's that's legit. Cause I saw some like article or that was like a, you know, one of those really sad documentaries where like a, a chick like drunkenly wandered into a, like a,

a walk-in cooler at a hotel. It was kind of like shut off and she'd fucking found her like three days later, deader than shit. So right back to the beginning of the podcast, talking about the Vince McMahon stuff. Hey, I'm going to move on to my unpaid and underrated.

So we have this game we like to play. I don't know how to do some of these. Okay, so unpaid or underrated. This is risky. This is risky because you see the other side of it. Gentle parenting. Not permissive parenting. Underrated?rated yeah don't go permissive parenting gentle parenting underrated i don't i kind of fit in that category i don't tell my kid i don't make

him do stuff i don't yell at him and make him do stuff i don't get physical with him but i will let him know if something is right or wrong what that affects could be and let him make his decisions. And then if his decisions are bad, it needs to be this way, or it's probably right. Now, that also means he does have a mild bit of childhood misogyny where he doesn't listen to women as often. But if I get on him about it, he will shit a brick if I am mad about something that he did. But at the same time, I see some parents who do the opposite like you said the permissive where they just let everything go yeah and i have some kids i have some kids who like today i had a kindergartner who while i had myself an aide and a student teacher in the class three adults he will not do anything i ask and just keeps crying because he

wants his mom who works at the school to come into class. Because she will let him do whatever sometimes. But if she gets onto him about it, he shuts down. And that's where you get that problem of if you go too soft, they cannot handle any kind of adversity. But if you let them see that adversity and figure out why they should deal with it it feels like it guides their own decision making better and i want my son i want my son to have good understanding like i'm teaching him now the values of verifying your sources online he'll come up to me and be like did you hear this person's gonna be in a new sonic the hedgehog movie he's like 10 and i'm like where'd you see that he's like like, some guy on YouTube said it.

And I go, okay. Have you checked it on Google to see if it's true? Oh, no. It looks up on Google. No, it says he's not going to be in it. All right. So what'd you learn? Don't trust what you see on YouTube only.

Got it. Perfect. I want him to be able to understand the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, plus where he's getting his sources from. But I still let him do what, you know, I'll let him do some stuff and make some silly choices. In fact, some of the fun things of being a parent now is my kid's old enough that one day we were driving down the road and we passed D's, and he goes, Captain D's nuts. Nuts!

And I was like, well, I'm not going to say that was wrong, but just make sure you do it whenever you're around me and not around the teachers. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, my four-year-old, so he learned how to say what the fuck at four, except he knows when to say it. Yeah. So one day we're just in the bedroom and he's jumping on the bed and I'm like, Oh, Hey buddy.

I go to tackle him, whatever. And something happens and he falls and he bumps his head and he looks at me and he holds the back of his head and he looks at me and he goes, daddy, what the fuck? And I stood up and I went, you're not supposed to say that and i walked out of the room and i died because i was like oh that was the perfect time to say that and you're allowed to do that

when that happens i had to i had to mute myself i was laughing so hard at that yeah but you are four you are not supposed to do that. But, buddy, sometimes those words can hurt other people's feelings. So let's wrangle in when we use that word. But at the same time, yeah, that's when you're supposed to use that word. He did it in front of my mom once. He bit into a jalapeno. We're at Boston Pizza,oston pizza again a canadian

thing he bites into jalapeno and he goes oh it's spicy what the fuck my mom looks at me and she breaks she starts laughing i was like no mom don't laugh you're not allowed to laugh you have to you have to maintain composure and tell him it's not okay and i'm breaking of course like i'm corpsing as it's happening yeah yeah yeah my kid learned how to swear in a very in a very fun way okay at a very young age i had to tell my kid you're gonna hear me say these words i don't want to hear you say those words these these are adult words these are grown-up words these are words i've never heard them say it yet you're gonna say eventually and you might as well learn how to say them properly but like not when you're four damn it okay unmade her underrated sumo deadlifts underrated sumo has saved my deadlift life um whenever i pull conventional i have to pull like very brian shaw conventional which is like

sumo with your arms on the outside which means my arms always feel awful they're way the hell out there i have very externally rotated hips so just standing here i'm slew footed like toes pointed out and when i was working with ben as a coach and ben said have you ever tried sumo and i tried it i couldn't pull 225 and i could not pull 225 could not pull 225 and you know when it clicked you they had uh they had uh joe on the uh on the podcast a few weeks ago, Joe Stanek. Now, I don't know Joe, but I'm aware there's apparently some interesting controversy between him and the rest of the Game Day people. But one of the other people at Game Day, name was Nico Flores.

Nico Flores is another power, the 74kg powerlifter who streamed during COVID. He's one of the co-owners of Game Day Barbell. He told me one day, he goes, imagine you're sitting there doing a leg extension. He said, you're kicking your foot up. Now imagine when you're sumo deadlifting, you're trying to do

that movement. And as soon as I did that, I pulled like 500 the next day. It was just that I was trying to conventional pull pull it and once i did that i realized my squat style fits kind of was what's the word for it sympathetically with sumo deadlift to where i can squat heavy and deadlift heavy in the same week and i have problems but if i if i pulled conventional i was always having low back problems because no matter what i do to get to the bar i have to round my back to get there i cannot get low enough and tight enough to get it once i went sumo it just

clicked and i mean i went from 540 as my best ever conventional at the garage gym competition in 2020. And then I went to my first powerlifting meet in 2021. And I pulled 540 as a fourth attempt state record. You know, super heavyweight, submasters, state record in the state of Illinois, drug tested. And I got that record. Sure, for that mercury mercury and retrograde yeah yeah everything and then so i pulled i pulled 540 i went and i pulled it and the judge looked at me and went that's fucking it that was my fourth attempt i didn't expect to pull

it because i i hadn't lifted in two months i had the meet scheduled and i got injured and i came back and just yoloed it and PR'd everything. This is a problem I have, by the way. If you ever hear Ben Rice, I will PR everything without lifting. Ben told us this, yes. This is a thing you do. You like to get injured, come back two months later and PR. Yeah, so then I did my next meet and i pulled 600 as a fourth attempt and there was an older dude

who was there oh he's always helped me as an equipped guy big guy looks like me but like all gray and i i pulled my third attempt and he comes hobbling back there and he goes did you do a fourth attempt yeah he goes what'd you put on the bar i said 600 he goes she's going like 630 pulled 600. It was easy. I was like, how the hell is this working? All of a sudden, then I went to rivals and I tried to pull six 66 for the memes.

Uh, and, uh, I, I even made custom emotes for rivals that are Gino's face with the fire in the background and it's animated. So it moves. And,

and I had my friends spamming them in my Twitch chat, but no use. I ended up blowing up blood vessels in my twitch chat but no use I end up blowing up blood vessels in my eyes trying to do that so but yeah sumos gosh you don't see enough fat guys doing sumo like what would haze use pull sumo like 1400

Eddie Hall is gonna pull sumo next week based on our podcast all right last one for all the marbles Eddie Hall is going to pull sumo next week based on our podcast. All right. Last one for all the marbles. Ooh. Unpaid or underrated. Beard oil. Unpaid.

I use it only when I want to feel fancy, but I don't notice a difference. I used it for about a year straight and granted it wasn't great stuff. It was just like that. Something Amish, honest Amish that you can get at Walmart. And I tried using the stuff, the maestro's oil.

You can get it to Arnold. I use that. I don't know. It's a difference. I'll be honest as a, as another bearded man, I don't know what your beard care routine is. My beard care routine is my beard care

routine is i get in the shower i run hot water on my bald head and i have really oily skin so i will shampoo my head shampoo down the cheeks shampoo into the beard wash it out and then just regular conditioning call today like i don't go crazy anymore. I was buying stuff and I was like, I don't notice a difference. In fact, when I stopped oiling it so much and I stopped using special beard shampoos,

my beard went from being about two and a half inches below my chin to where it is now in two years of just not cutting it. And if I stand up, you can see all on the camera for you guys. It just stops naturally. I have not touched this anything other than the mustache with trimming in two years. cutting it and if i stand up you can see on the camera for you guys it just stops naturally i have not touched this anything other than the mustache with trimming in two years and it just stops at a nice flat edge and i'm just like well if walmart ran conditioner and shampoo sometimes i'll even

just use acts that are the axe body wash and just do that all across my head like a like a like a good old-fashioned man. Everything in one. I just don't see the point of it, though. It looks good when you have a good, oiled, well-maintained beard. I'm just too lazy. Okay, yeah, so I definitely shampoo and oil my beard all the time. But I think that mine might be a bit thicker. Like mine goes in a lot thicker up here.

I don't, I have never grown it as long as yours, but that's mostly just because of my job and my wife. Like they don't like it when they get that long. Uh, if I did, it would be huge. Like it goes out and then down. And I've just opted out of doing that i i i notice

when i don't oil because it my beard likes to steal all the moisture from my face so like my face goes dry and then my beard just feels like hay like literally like just hay but somebody kind of feels like i don't wear cologne right i don't wear like scents or anything it's the closest thing i have to a smell and i like i like nice smells so i buy nice soaps i buy nice beard oils because i want to be anointed so like i might i'll bring a burrito i'll bring one to the arnold that literally just it smells like trees it smells like just being in the woods in a mossy tree i fucking love that stuff like that's what i want to smell like all the time so i use oils all the time but that's just also i don't like the smell i don't like the feel of just like dry fucking dusty hay and i get dandruff pretty quickly so i guess to be honest mine does feel kind of like stringy hay but at the same time the only thing it felt like when i

when i oiled it and i used like beard condition on it, it felt like slightly less stringy. It wasn't like a drastic difference. It wasn't like you see all the Garnier Fructis commercials and the women's hair looks all frazzled. It's like, oh, it flows beautifully. No, my beard was like that. I'll have what he's having. No, no, we're not doing any of that. I have a boar hair brush.

I have a ram's horn brush like i have like things to make sure it doesn't get all out of hand um but again like i i like having a beard it's it's not a small beard i just got it it's funny last week i think we talked about like the the can versus and then i immediately got a trim the next day like i took like two inches off and like brought it in um but yeah yeah they're not for everybody but i might find one you like i might and then the worst part is you got to order it from canada that's yeah yeah the maestro's one i liked was kind of like a weird combination of vanilla and tobacco scent i have that one uh i might have that one so they it was weird there was like one beard company walking around the Arnold and they would

like hand you like a sample. Yeah. Like here's a sample of our creams. And I'm like, okay, thank you. And then the other one, I was like walking around on the Sunday and this,

this, she had to have been 15. I don't know what she was doing there. She walked up and she's like hey and she handed me everything they had she's like you've got a nice beard can you just like take this and maybe review it and it was like the cream and the beard oil and the shampoo and the samples and i was like see that's how you get attention at the arnold you don't hand me that was on sunday they were they were gonna either have to take that back

home with them or give it away so yeah you don't hand me that one with a mustache you don't hand me the condom package of your like one cream that you go hey man you got a beard here's your stuff review it actually turned out to be great stuff. Well, you know, the sad thing for me is, too, like I said, I'm 38. I have a picture of myself, my dad, me, my grandma, my dad, me, and my son. So four generations. And this was like 2019, right before COVID hit, like Easter 2020. My beard is the same color as keith's just

all one color and then the last two years i've just like been losing everything and i don't even look at look at get you okay you can't see this because you're you know the in the podcast people big white streak it's just pure white right here and pure white up here like it's I'm a ginger so I'm not gonna go gray I'm gonna go white or blonde and let's do it man

let's become Santa Claus me and you both I just said you know what I could color it but I also I'm not gonna go get a hair transplant because I'm losing my hair so why would I go color my beard because my beard's getting also did. I'm not going to go get a hair transplant because I'm losing my hair. So why would I go color my beard? Because my beard's getting gray. I mean, I'm almost 40.

So that means I'm like 90% done with life. So we're going to lay up there. No, we're going to, we're going to buy a red costume. We're going to go down to the sick kids hospital and we're going to do our jobs. Yeah. I've got a Santa costume there. I did my whole Christmasmas concert in a santa costume and then our chris our town christmas parade i marched in a santa costume with the kids and then i was told right before it started

hey just so you know the advent coordinators might come tell you you can't wear that because you're not allowed to dress like santa because they have an official santa claus for the parade oh the official santa claus is the parade. I looked at the guy who told me that and I said, tell them to come take it off to my face. I saw the person look at me and it took like two steps towards me

and they looked at their clipboard and walked away. Just be like, I'm not Santa Claus, I'm Fred Claus. So deal with it. Yeah, I'm not Santa Claus. I'm Fred Claus. So deal with it. Yeah, I'm Tim Allen. Well, I think you passed. I think you did good. You earned the beans and all that stuff.

A couple things came up I wanted to touch on while we were going over that. I did get a new referral. Someone used our affiliate code for Barbell Rescue during the podcast. I think I came in at like 10 o'clock, so if anyone's not

familiar, go ahead and, you know, look up Kim's company. Go buy a brush from Barbell Rescue. Use code unpaid and help us, you know, put a little money in the coffers. The other thing, I don't remember what the hell it was. There was one more thing I wanted to it was something that came up with all our topics of conversation, but I do not

recall what it was, so I'm just going our topics of conversation but i do not recall what it was so i'm just going to randomly uh try to think about it but uh you need to talk about poop to make up to keep yeah do you have a poop story that you wanted to share i i got made fun of for going to twitch con and flying out there with my bag of uh psyllium husk fiber supplements because i was testing out see if it did anything. And guess what? Literally didn't do shit. It was just gross tasting and not worth it. So I learned

for 20 bucks, I learned that's about it. I'm not a poop person. You don't have to be. It's just been funny that we had we didn't even try to get Lou to talk about it last week and he was just like oh i i have one i'll share it and i was like oh okay well no so yeah no no poop story this week guys sorry yeah i just tell rachel

you know i'm an i i'm a perfectly normal man i go poop seven eight times a day you know just normal stuff seven eight times a day personally i'm only at four times but they're all two hours each yeah it's about it's about intensity not about quantity that's where i get on my show prep done actually yeah that is bugging me i literally had like something that was a follow-up on something you guys were talking about but oh well uh well i guess we can hand it over to you there, Manny. Do you have anything? You mentioned a game or some questions for us? Well, I don't know.

It might take a little bit, but I don't know how much time you want. Under a half hour, more than five minutes. Perfect. Okay, so I would like to hit you with a little something. It's not quite unpaid or underrated, hit you with a little something it's not quite not quite unpaid or underrated but in honor of the the most underrated workout program to ever exist i have a 5-3-1 game for you so we talked a little bit earlier about the wwe style walkouts and your own

songs for the five section Give me your five best lifting songs. I have to take fucking notes here? Any five that you listen to regularly it doesn't have to be the best best but just like if you had to put in your Spotify wrapped popped up what were your top five?

Well I can go because I can just bring up my lifting playlist. Okay. so most recently John Wick mode out of La Castlevania so there's a random techno thing out of John Wick that just gets my blood fucking going

Firestarter by the Prodigy I've added that one of course that's a classic yeah absolutely um it's one that makes me laugh and i don't know if it's a lifting thing or if it just makes me laugh it's called pound cake by the thought squad it's really funny it's just genuinely really funny and it's very intense and chaotic and stupid for no reason um so that one's on there um this is just my lifting playlist uh the dare muscle men but it's a remix called muscles X exclusive Holland. Um, I guess I can post a, a version of it.

Um, but it's that hardcore European techno. That's just like, like hammer. Is it like reminiscent of DJ muscle boy? No, no. Even harder core European.

Yeah. Yeah. no no even hardcore european yeah yeah is it gonna be the kind of eurobeat that i might need to almost borderline roll up in like a little doc car with a ski mask on like borderline russian eurobeat yep yeah actually the first time i heard this so the original is stupid intense this remix gave me heart palpitations the first time i heard it and the one time we were sitting in the car okay my wife was in in the store and it was me and the two kids and this song came on and i was like guys you want to dance we all were just so chaotic and bouncing the whole car was moving and people were walking by going like what's wrong with all of you but it's just like like it's insane techno um and then of course like i have my random viking music

so there's a song called um buzla's ban by hey loon When I deadlift, I prefer Heilung. If it's a heavy single or something I really need to focus on, I prefer the Heilung style repetition, droning, drumming, and chanting. I don't like this crazy heavy metal and all that shit. Because, yeah, that's energetic stuff but I want my deadlifts to be centered not external so maybe that's why I have a shit deadlift or I don't know

but those are my five that's a good group what do you got Keith uh well my the you know Tanner's favorite song sail by you know for the AWOL nation that's definitely been in there probably a little uh by Tanner's favorite song, Sail, by A-Well Nation. That's definitely been in there.

Probably a little... As I have three country ones I'm going to put in there, they're going to piss people off, but I have to go with my other... I want to stick with all those, so I guess I'll go Custer by Slipknot. That's been a big one for the last... Fuck, fuck, fuck me up.

Fuck, fuck, fuck the last... I'll start strategically take a set right when it hits the heavy part sometimes. And then I've been listening to if anyone's been following me for even the last few years, Keep the Wolves Away by Uncle Lucius.

That's my jam. Two newer songs I've been listening to a lot are Fast Hand by Cody Jenks and then E by Matt Mason. Both songs similar to Keep the Wolves Away where they basically just tell a story. It's kind of like a pretty deep story to some extent. It's not like your typical,

it's not going to be songs at least I don't hear on the radio. So just songs that kind of just, I don't know, make me feel something, I guess. And I just just i need songs like that every now and then and i don't know i just i've done more of a country kick in the gym but like certain songs i'm not gonna listen to like like new songs really but so i have a thing for you ke you mentioned sail by a wall nation uh try sail by devil driver oh yeah they're both my playlist i okay i i i like them both but i also like so have you heard

the country heroes album by devil driver probably not i can't imagine so hank three's on it they do a lot of country songs but with like they do it in metal okay so maybe this maybe this is where you and i meet yeah send me that send me that later when i'm lucid and i'll uh yeah yeah maybe this is where you and i i we do the the metal country meet there because i could see that yeah all right so now we're moving on to the three so i we've talked about less pressure with three yeah less pressure with three three is way straight up my alley because you do not get to be 400 pounds of large meat mountain without some of this your three most underrated meals pre-workout anything you want anything you think

of that you could eat or if you prefer to drink drink before pre-workout that is underrated by most people like pre-workout we know everyone's going to drink pre you know someone's going to drink protein before because they think they need to get that window in or something but something you would eat that you don't think everybody would know about so yeah i don't i actually don't eat very often before my workouts um If I had to say my ideal free workout, it's going to be some nitric oxide. We're going for that

Build Fast Formula boner. I don't usually take caffeine. I'll have a coffee in the morning. On a day off where I have the luxury of working out when I want to, this would be my ideal day. I a coffee in the morning like on a day off where like i have the luxury of working out when i want to this would be my ideal day okay i wake up in the morning

and i have a coffee and maybe i have a hard-boiled egg like maybe i don't want anything i'm gonna burp up while i'm working out so i don't have bacon i don't are you peeing right now i don't it's only i don't think i have a jug small enough obviously you guys can't see this but that was a really funny question um so yeah like maybe i'll have a hard-boiled egg i don't like bacon i don't like spicy stuff sometimes i'll ask morgan to make me an egg she'll throw in chilies or something and i'm like you can't do that i'm gonna burp that up the entire time so like ideally i actually don't eat before most of my workouts um maybe some oats and the nitric oxide for the pump because the pump is to me i don't like i very i very much regulate my caffeine in a day.

Today, I've had more caffeine than I have had in three or four days because I don't like more than 300 milligrams a day. So today, because I was so tired, I had an extra 180 that I don't usually have. So I try and keep it under 300. On a bad day, 400. 400 but didn't egg some oats i don't like bacon before i work out that's stupid and if you do good for you but no i'm not into that keith what he got for me it's more about timing so like my my you know i work out the same time pretty much like you know i work out 9 30 every sunday for the last 10 years. And I work out when I get home from work Monday and Tuesday and Friday. But my times to get home from work vary between 230 and 530.

So if I'm if I'm home before 330, I'm probably going to go to the gym. And then I'm just like still still full from lunch. If I get home after four, I'm probably going to eat a super, super early dinner and then just wait a half hour and then go eat. I don't necessarily – I'm not going to auto-regulate really what I'm eating necessarily. I'm just going to eat. I just either – I need to eat within a couple hours to like no sooner than a half hour or no farther out than like three hours kind of, sort of. But I don't like, oh, I have to have this exact amount of carbs or whatever. If I'm at a meet, know i mean i wouldn't say

underrated because everyone eats peanut butter and jelly but yeah i pack peanut butter and jelly and then like you know some kind of protein uh but yeah i don't think i have a magic answer to that i just i eat the same breakfast on sundays which is typically i mean sometimes i'll do eggs but more often than not it's just my my my uh premier protein cereal with some almond milk and i don't know i don't like change in variety. I definitely like today. Today I had a really shitty day at work. Yesterday was some drama.

So I kind of treated myself today to like a greasy lunch. And I was like, well, I could either do it today or tomorrow. But I really don't want to try to deadlift after eating like a big steak sandwich and a bunch of chicken fingers and a gallon of ranch. So let me eat that tonight. And then tomorrow I'll just eat my regular you know normal chicken uh and then go into deadlifts without fucking bubble goods yeah i guess it must just be a thick boy thing because my first powerlifting meet i went to i brought like uh two foot long loafs of bread sandwiches and ate those um my my my first uspa meet the day before i weighed in i went out i had all you can eat sushi

and ate three other fast food places in the morning of i went and got like four sausage sausage uh muffins on the way to to the meat you know i one time here on my birthday i dressed as a hot dog and ate three pounds of hot dogs while dead lifting and so it must just be a big guy thing we you know i i will eat whatever i will eat the worst food today for lunch yesterday for lunch i had four mcdoubles and a large fry and then today if you want to talk about what i'm going to eat the day before a big lift, that's a different conversation. I don't like chicken wings on the day before I have big lifts because I get heartburn, but I will eat the shit out of McDonald's all day every day. Not the day I lift because as a person with a beard, when I eat a Big Mac, I taste that Big Mac all fucking day because it gets stuck in my beard and my mustache. But the next day, I know I have the calories, the sodium, and the carbs to go and lift the crap out of stuff.

I mean, whenever COVID hit, it was probably the strongest I ever got quickest because I'd wake up and I'd eat breakfast and take a nap and then wake up and lift. Cause I'd wake up and I'd eat breakfast and take a nap and then wake up and lift. Yeah. And every day I would eat like two cups of rice and a dozen eggs and like a half pound of bacon or sausage and then go, go back to sleep for an hour or two, then wake up and then go lift. And I'm like,

Oh, I feel great. A dozen eggs in one sitting. Bro. I'm on a full Gaston diet. Whenever I was there, I would just take a dozen eggs. When I was a lad, I ate five dozen eggs.

I know me too. I eat so many eggs. One thing I do, one thing I have to do is I, I will never do a meat without eating chicken parm the day before like that. I don't think I ever, if I ever have has been like one out of like the dozen meats or something. So always get a chicken parm before me.

I can't, I can't, I can't not do a chicken parma of some sort and the lift hard live easy though i'm gonna eat some chicken wings and then go lift and throw up i'm gonna throw up on that platform let's do it this is on the np let's let's triple on the platform at the lift hard live easy the last meet i did i i'm sitting down waiting for deadlifts and i'm just jamming out to some ska music i mean i'm the kind of person that everyone else is like screaming and i'm up there like skanking to the music just going and then this person goes this person comes up they go hey i got a giant tub of rice krispy treats you want some and i was like hell yeah yeah yeah trying to get the rice krispy treat off my hands so i can talk my hands to go all right feed it to me somebody feed it to me yeah well i'm i don't care i got chalky hands

little chalk this is tacky it's tacky at that rate you know i just had the image of like you know how dave does the flames obviously like some of the guys if they're gonna have so much alcohol still in their system could you imagine like someone like like i mean i don't think scientific as possible if someone like burped or something and like there was have so much alcohol still in their system? Could you imagine someone like I don't think scientifically possible, if someone burped or something and there was still that much alcohol in their system that it just made the flame get bigger and they fucking caught themselves on fire. It's just a Rammstein concert at this point.

Don't let Huck in there. It'll look like Joe Dirt when he hits the nuclear bomb with the firecracker. On Let's Get Super this morning, Finn did mention, well, everyone's always asking when he's going to do another competition. He did say he was either going to do a competition

until he was going to compete at Live Hard, Live Easy or a meet before that. I probably doubt either of those will actually happen because that's just a running joke because Huck will never compete again, but it would be cool to meet him and actually have him, well, not meet him again and have him come out to Aberdeen, but we'll see.

Yeah. All right. Last one. This is the one, this is the final, this is the be all end all of every lifting podcast. What is your number one most underrated lift accessory? Like accessory lift.

I mean, like if you had to pick a lift that you think helped somewhere the most but it's not one that you see people doing it on tiktok and instagram what would you think is your favorite helpful accessory lift i got one uh board pressing i love board pressing i use my bench block. I mean, the two board, the three board, the four board, the five board, they all feel different and have different things. And we'll basically get heavier. Right now, we just started a wave.

My meet's seven weeks out or eight weeks out. So we started with a two board. Then we're going to progress right up to the meet where I'm touching. I got to actually talk to my coach. I'm not sure if we're going to cap it at a three or if we're gonna progress right up to the meat where i'm touching probably like i gotta actually talk to my coach much if we're gonna go to like if we're gonna cap it at a three or we're gonna go to four or five but either way i'll be doing like 50 pounds more than my bench like just you know unracking you know partial range of motion locking out but just completely annihilating my triceps i always tell people like it's a such a different tricep pump like my triceps like they're not pumped but they i i know i've put it in words better before and i'm like i can't really think of how i say it now but it's it's

such a different feel like they're completely annihilated but it's not like from doing like like like three sets of 15 on a tricep extension it's just such a different feel so if anyone's ever been on the fence about just trying to bench block or board pressing either i don't know as an accessory on my, one of my second or third bench day and just going super fucking heavy with them. And it's just so much fun. Nice. I have a bench block over there.

Maybe you might've talked to me about actually using it for once. I love it. That's the hard thing too, is people were like, well, how do I program? And I was like, I don't know.

That's why I fucking pay someone to program. It's an accessory. I don't really, it doesn't only matters a little bit. Like I wouldn't, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, I do it after deadlifts on bench day, sometimes during me prep. Uh, and it's like, and my coach knows how much I like it.

So we kind of only, he does kind of save it for prep. So like, we're not doing it a bunch in the off season cause I don't want to do the same fucking accessories for 12 months. So it's just kind of, you know, throws it in for a few months in me prep. Gotcha. Very cool. What about you, Joey? What do you do that you find works? What's your secret? What's your

super secret? Sandbag rows. Sandbag rows? I dipped the barbell rows, passed on those, and I started using my sandbag with the handles to do my bent over rows. My back grew, my dead over rows uh my back grew my deadlift grew my stabilization grew um i think a couple people on instagram said no that's a bad idea it's not gonna work but it

it worked for me i don't know why but it's my it is my favorite version of my back workouts. I can't do T-bar rows. They're boring as shit. But picking up that sandbag up to my chest and putting it back down is fantastic. And my back is not small. It's a deadlifter's back for sure. And I think that is the one where I just started using the sandbag instead of the barbell to do those chest rows that I think made the difference for me for my lockouts now how heavy do you have the bag loaded it's 100 pounds right now I've got 150 pound bag but it doesn't have handles that's

the problem makes that one a little harder yeah so that one i just use for carries or just cleans but um like for repetition it's definitely been those sandbag rows and so in comparison whenever you did barbell rows or t-bar rows what is your weight you normally row about the same about the same yeah absolutely but the sandbag for some reason just was more fun more interesting and like it's not as even right like barbell like the barbell i'm not i'm a nobody right i don't know i don't know shit i'm not like a trainer or anything who yeah the barbell is it's a certain kind of evenness it's a certain kind of like i have my feel a certain kind of, like, I have my feel. You guys have talked about this before, that, like, I don't like the way this feels.

I don't like the way that feels, blah, blah, blah. Sandbags, you don't get that shit. You don't get to do that. A sandbag is a sandbag. You get to lift it, and it's uneven every time. So I do feel like those sandbag rows have... It's never the same. Each rep is different because stuff shifts.

And, of course, I have pea gravel where, where, where, but like things go a little different every movement. And I do feel like that that has contributed a lot to my deadlifts. Very cool. That might be something I was for a while. Whenever I was trying to recuperate this wrist injury,

I have a 70-pound slam ball. And I was just doing that to see if I could even grab something with my hand and just doing that as like a road in a chest. But I have to see about getting a sandbag because I've never had one. I've always kind of wanted one. Well, you can do – Scantz has one that he's got the uh the inclusive sandbag he's got a code for those um i use one uh from out west here god if i can remember the name that would that would be nice but i also have a bells of steel one that that the bells of steel one is the one with the handles that's kind of the one that I use the most because the handles,

like you can use those for throwing, for tossing, for carrying little easier to like do the, the sandbag walks with the handles. Cause you can like tuck them under your wrists, but then you fall on your face when you put them down. No, that didn't happen to me.

That would be my one. That would be my one is the sandbag. Oh, for sure. Very cool. Yeah. It's always nice to hear because everyone has something different they're working on and something different that works for them that doesn't work for somebody else. Yeah. Like there's somebody out there who does, you know, Bulgarian split squats legitimately.

And there's those of us who just skip them. I've never done one in my life. Hate them. Yeah. I looked at it and I said, I don't think that's gonna happen chief i'm gonna fall over every time yep so yeah it's nice hearing what that works because lifting for me has been 100 about watching what other people do trying it and seeing what works and if it works keep it if it don't work try something new makes sense all right that's it guys you did awesome thank you for the great that was answers i'm gonna have to listen to some of these songs that i don't know some of them i'm not familiar with i liked uh i liked your game that's uh we've we've had some very unique things you know uh thrown at us. I like the Jim

Wendler take on that. That was really good. That was really fun. Nobody's done that to us. I dig it. I think we might be able to start bringing this in for a landing. Right here.

You're still wearing your fucking orange glasses. I'm driving down to Rochester and I'm going to break those goddamn things. That's alright. You know who's probably not driving to Rochester because he's too busy getting haircuts is your buddy Big Matt. I can't believe he did that. I can't believe

he went from feral to domesticated within a matter of seconds. It's alright. We'll get him. I just lost my hair naturally. I couldn't imagine domesticated within a matter of seconds. Yeah. It's all right. We'll get it. I just lost my hair naturally. I mean, I couldn't imagine getting rid of it.

Like on purpose. Oh yeah. Like we're, me and you, maybe we're like, oh, our hairline kind of sucks. Let's start shaving her head.

And Matt's like, my hairline's great. Still going to cut it. Like dick move. Yeah. Yeah. Standing us up for, you know, 39 weeks in a row, but I don't know. Like, dick move, dude. Well, someone's standing us up for 39 weeks in a row, but potato, potato, I guess.

Hey, man, he's got an open invitation. He's got an open invitation. He'll show up whenever he feels like it. I don't even know. I'm so annoyed. I don't know. Does he even deserve a drunk Keith that fucking pounders or whatever bar we're at going,

got big Keith here and interviewing someone on our Instagram stories. I think that's all he deserves. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. You won't be drunk. I will not be drunk. Honestly, I'm not.

On the Thursday, you're going to be so scared of being drunk. I'll drink. Because I won't worry. Yep. And then Friday, like, well, I don't want to be drunk for tomorrow. Because, like, you're more worried about your numbers than you are having fun. Man, I can't be hungover. I will be.

If I'm hungover, I'm not even going to leave the hotel room. I'll just be like, I'll see you guys at the hotel. Hold the fuck out. I'm going to be hungover as shit. you think i'm gonna have it do you think anybody's gonna let me not drink thursday and friday you have to not show up right so like we hit all our affiliates uh yeah uh obsidian barbell rescue plate snacks home gym con uh use code unpaid it'll save you on all of those and it'll help put a little money in our It's Obsidian, Barbell Rescue, Plate Snacks, Home Gym Con. Use code UNPAID. It'll save you on all of those and it'll help put a little money in our pocket. So we can give back to the community here.

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because I didn't get any updates on a new added feature to Glaze Search. So, Nate, are you okay, buddy? Text us when you are listening to this. Let us know you're okay. You gotta say, Ken. BigManny, where are they going to find you at on the... where you want listening to this let us know you're okay yeah sick big mini where are they going to find you at on the uh where where you they want you to where you want them to find you

instagram at mini action jesus twitch.tv slash miniature action jesus and if i ever get a chance to even bother figuring out how to do video editing i do have a miniature action jesus youtube channel right now i cannot figure out how to do this because i am that borderline boomer zoomer range where i know how to use technology enough to know i don't know how to use technology nice well go go look him up there uh i am big keith you can find me at keith honeycutt 73 go follow my orange shim at the no wine cellar and big joey over here i'll tell you not to follow him in a minute like follow me it's boring as shit like i post nothing i know a weird thing about instagram and i think they pointed this out the other day that like i didn't post

anything for like two weeks and my followers went up and then i posted a selfie and it went down like i don't understand Instagram. Am I ugly? And you hate me? I think it's just bots, dude. Like, my count will fluctuate 10 people every week. And like, I'm not getting real followers. I'm just losing fake followers. Or people do the whole, you know, they follow a thousand accounts to hope that a hundred follow them back.

And then they fucking unfollow everybody. Like, that's like a legitimate thing. I don't know maybe anyway at Joey underscore MLE CZKO but just follow the podcast and you'll eventually find me maybe it's not so true anymore

alright boys we'll see you next Tuesday