Unpaid And Underrated - 058 : Cat Distribution System
Episode Date: June 18, 2024This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Matthias. They dive right into data privacy, VBT, Greco-Roman wrestling, working on your birthday, cats, poop and pee, pizza, and what is reading? Links Follo...w The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @c.pap.pi (https://www.instagram.com/c.pap.pi/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Matthias.
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All right, forget to clap. Nobody does it anyway.
Nah, fuck Nate.
All right, welcome back to episode 666 of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast.
I am your host, Big Keith. I'm joined, as always, by Big Joey.
And this week we have special guest, Big Matthias Cash, I believe.
Is that who you are, buddy?
That's me.
You have 17 different names on Instagram and Facebook and Discord and in person.
So I wasn't 100% sure who we were getting tonight.
The fuck is Facebook?
You know all about Facebook, Joseph.
Joseph?
What are you, my mom when I'm in trouble?
Apparently.
What are you drinking over there
tonight, Matthias?
I actually have a liquid death beer
and a Gatorade.
So I've never had liquid, or
yeah, I've never had this one. I think it's just a
plain, but... That's the best one.
That's the best one. Let's go. Try it on
camera for us. Here we go.
As he's taking a sip
out of his can.
It's like water.
Nice. Right? Isn't it?
It's like water with a little
sweater. A little teeth sweater.
So I had a... I had like an
ad on Instagram or something for
Liquid Death, and the whole thing was trying to sell how it's like not a sugary drink but it did actually say
it had like the tiniest bit of like agave or some kind of one of the fake natural artificial
or something um i didn't realize that because i thought every sparkling water was just straight
up like no artificial anything so at least the ad that they showed me it told me it had like
some small percentage of a uh an actual artificialener, which I was blown away by.
So that one shouldn't.
The juices do.
OK.
The flavored ones do.
OK.
That makes more sense.
Then this week, I am rocking out the second of the three water lose.
Stephanie got me for my birthday.
This one is already in the strong and silly pint.
So I don't know if it's coming out.
Oh, shit.
Happy late birthday, by the way. early but yeah happy birthday keith tomorrow morning uh raspberry nectarine that took
a while to get out of the uh the koozie i should have looked at that beforehand thank you yeah i
turn uh when this comes out i'll already be 39 but as of recording i'm still 38 364 days but uh
yeah i'll be three i'll be 39 in a few hours.
I can probably go ahead.
I was about to say,
fun fact.
Did you know Joey and I share the same birthday?
Ooh,
really?
Yeah.
December 13th.
That's so dope.
December birthdays are the worst of the worst.
They are.
And then,
and then I went and screwed up my whole family.
My daughter's the first,
I'm the 13th. My wife is the 21st.
Oh, my gosh.
And then our anniversary is January 22nd.
So we are like, it was like a gentleman's agreement where me, my birthday, her birthday, and our anniversary don't matter.
Like, let's just do birthdays and Christmas and forget the rest.
There you go.
Kind of in the same boat.
All of my sisters are December birthdays as well.
So, well, I guess besides one.
I have a Keith. I have a keith's obviously i'm off tomorrow i've done this new thing now where i make the schedule because i'm the manager and i
can do whatever the fuck i want where i'm usually off on fridays so that gives me a chance to have
a couple beers so that i can carb load for deadlift day nice that's the excuse we're going to give and when i bomb out
at the meet then we'll know why but i also have something that i sent tanner and tommy which is
the sap sucker which is the maple water sparkling water but i've never had a peach one
better than maple water no it's peach maple water Keith um
wasn't that like oh they had like a whole thing where they had
maple water it was like the worst thing they ever had right
so no no they they they gave that
a four or something like that I
I have yet to get anything under three
and a half when I deliver
I thought that was the one that they said it at least
it's not piss or something like that
fuck both of you
that was that was the protocol.
You're right.
I think I want to call Tanner in now. I'm pretty sure
Maplewater scored poorly.
One of the Davids, do your job.
Fact check that and tag us in it and all that.
And make me look bad like you like to do.
Tell us we pronounced it wrong, you fucks.
It's called Mapple.
Dumb Canadian.
Oh, that got me.
I almost spit my drink out on that one, buddy. Good deal.
And if I did, I would have ruined
my pink
fluid Masonomics shirt, the dark side
of the moon or whatever. Oh, that's got the
rainbow on it? I'm unfollowing.
Yep, yep, yep.
I was reading John Q and they said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, dumb. moon or whatever uh oh that's got the rainbow on it i'm unfollowing yep yep yep yeah i was
reading i was reading john q and you know they said blah blah blah blah dumb what are you wearing
over there tonight matthias i've got the uh the polo on and i also had to bring out my entire
collection and hang on the squat rack so nice yeah we we do have some polo talk coming up later i think oh heck yeah yeah but look at that
look at that that is a lot of one two three four five six seven eight uh more they they they go to
black ones and the camera kind of pans out so yeah there's a there's there's more than a dozen
one two three four five six seven eight and then yellow and a black mask oh they're not all the
polos back there sorry sorry. That's just
black, massive, long shirts. We're just
going to say they are, and that's a lot of polos.
You didn't buy 30 polos?
I've got the, uh,
what am I wearing? The weight is
a number, heavy is a feeling.
That's the quote that I get
right every time I say it. Yeah, that's
I had a quick shower before the podcast and was just like whatever fits put it on uh we got some good news
for everybody uh anyone that's in need of some leather goods uh big chris and randy reached out
to us and told us uh that they opened up a uh a discount code uh for unpaid all you gotta do is
put unpaid in at belt fed strength.com and you can get some, I believe it's a 10% discount on some other goods.
It's nothing we're going to get a kickback on.
It's not an affiliate.
It's just them being cool to the crew and, you know,
using our platform to help get it out there.
I kind of even feel bad because I don't even know if they can afford to kind of
take the 10% hit because they have such a, you know, small margins.
But, you know, they wanted to help out the crew.
So if anyone wants some lifting straps, belts,
they got that nice tricep press down apparatus. I know Chris hates making them, but everyone go buy a nice dress belt from him and force him to make the belt that he hates.
But yeah, we really appreciate that, guys.
Crew supporting crew.
So beltfeststrength.com, code unpaid.
Really solid belts.
I got to borrow one.
They were nice enough to let me so oh yeah i
remember that you were like i don't have a belt i can't go above like 500 or something and i was
like there's literally a belt company right there i believe and i think you had to try a few on
randy hooked you up with one yeah that's so cool that that he that he did that for us that's
yeah it's really dope uh yeah uh just a heads up i just had a sip of this this is fucking amazing
it's so it's not piss like it's like it's like the other one uh it would be like if um your
favorite muscle mommy spit pre-workout in your mouth that's that's what this tastes like this is
incredible actually and i don't normally like these kind of things. I also have a Zin in my mouth.
So this is getting a bit of a mint flavor to it.
Oh yeah, all the chat.
All the chat is
Zin talk this week.
There's no tobacco in this. There's no tobacco.
It's nicotine.
It's got a stimulant.
Yeah, that's why I got it. It's a stimulant.
I'm going to sit in front of a screen and
get messed up for the next two hours.
Oh, good stuff.
Well, quick thing about we were talking about my birthday earlier.
What's your guys' take on working on your birthday?
Do you take your birthday off?
Is it important to you?
Do you always try to take the Monday or the Friday that falls closest to it for a long weekend?
Or are you just adamant you're taking the actual day off?
Or you just don't care?
I don't care.
I actually hate when people bring up my birthday at work too.
So it's always like try and lay low that day
and not run into people.
But I don't think I've taken my birthday off
because I've gone from school,
always finals fell on my birthday.
So I guess it's just broken me
from trying to celebrate my birthday. So I guess it's just, it's broken me from like trying to celebrate my birthday.
No,
that makes sense.
Traditionally,
I've always made a big deal of my birthday,
uh,
for several years.
Um,
and then when I had kids stopped,
but I tend to not work on my birthday.
Um,
it won't get into much talk,
but it's one of the only days that I would regard as a very important day of the year.
But then the last year I had a powerlifting meet four days before my birthday.
So I just took that off.
I'm never going to do a December powerlifting meet again in my life.
Because with two kids, I was just so sick leading up to it that it was like it was not even worth doing it.
So I'm just never going to do it again until they get immune systems.
But traditionally,
yes,
I do not work my birthday.
I do not work Halloween.
And,
um,
that has always been my rule or I try and take the weekend around birthday
off.
Yep.
That was like all my like early adult life.
I would always try to take my birthday off
i think that for a while i would be like well you know i'll take like the uh the monday or the
friday that's the most adjacent to it for the long weekend but then like i have to go to work on my
birthday and deal with shitty customers and people and i'm just like nah i think i think maybe two or
three years ago was my last time i think just the way my schedule worked i was like oh sweet i'll
take a friday off and just work thursday my birthday i was like fuck that never again so yeah my boss
always kind of looks at me funny he's like what are you like a kid celebrating your birthday and
i'm like i don't care man it's like one day i'm gonna be super selfish and take a mayday so yeah
well because it's the only day of the year that is about you uh so everything else is a holiday
or family or whatever that's the only day that's your day.
But yeah.
I don't feel bad about it. I'm just curious because a lot of people I ask, they're just like, that's dumb.
That's weird.
I'm just like, I mean, are you just selfish the rest of the year or are you just not selfish at all?
I'm going to be super selfish on my birthday, but I'm probably going to be like somewhat, you know, whatever was best for the household the rest of the time.
Or at least I would hope that that's how I'm coming across.
But,
uh,
yeah,
just fuck,
fuck working on your birthday,
man.
That's no fun.
Uh,
Stephanie did give me one early present.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She did give me one early present tonight.
She's like the queen of like,
here,
take all your presents.
I want you to open your presents.
I'm like,
it's literally like a week before,
but,
uh,
she gets,
she's like,
she's like,
here,
here's a stupid one.
So I opened it up tonight.
It was a,
uh,
it was actually a very,
uh, something I very much needed. I didn't realize I needed it. So it's an, uh, a stupid one. So I opened it up tonight. It was actually something I very much
needed, and I didn't realize I needed it.
So it's an AirPod or a headphone
little Q-tip cleaner thing.
The amount of gunk I
pulled out of my AirPods was
nauseating. It was
almost like a pinky nail
full between both of them. It wasn't that bad,
but it was like half of a pinky nail
full of shit in my
AirPod hole.
Nate, that's the episode title.
But yeah, it was gross.
But yeah, so if anyone has some dirty AirPods,
look into that.
Anybody get a chance
to watch the YouTube video today?
Dropped at 4 o'clock this afternoon.
I did.
What'd you think of it? Are you going to go buy a reverse hyper for your cats to play on?
It would just be another perch for them to sit on.
I'm actually, I've only used a reverse hyper a couple times, but I mean, he was saying
like $900 is the break of the bank, but there's no way I would spend 900 bucks on just a reverse
hyper.
I mean, heck, my rack was like 300 bucks. So there's no way I would spend $900 on just a reverse hyper. I mean, heck, my rack was like $300.
So there's no way.
It's a lot of money for a tripod.
I did not watch the video.
I was busy fucking napping.
I feel that.
Were you dreaming about dentist day?
Is that what we're going to?
Oh, yeah. Huge. Like, what the hell? Are you dreaming about dentist day? Is that what we're going to?
Oh, yeah.
Huge.
Like, what the hell?
I don't know.
Apparently, me.
Apparently, me, Murph.
Oh, Matt and Matt.
So Mabel, all four of us went to the dentist today.
Gotcha.
We didn't plan it.
That's funny.
It's just funny that Mabel was like, oh, I have a dentist appointment i was like funny i'm in the dentist right now and then matt and murph were both like we're both at the
dentist today so apparently today is international crew dentist day somehow so sorry i got it i got
a feeling i hate i hate there's nothing i hate more than being frozen. I don't mind the work. I don't mind sitting in the chair, the drilling, any of that.
I hate being frozen.
So I immediately came home and just went to sleep
because I was like, I don't want to be awake while I'm frozen.
It doesn't even hurt.
It's just fucking awkward.
You can't drink.
You can't eat.
You can't even talk.
You just all yeah so i just
that's what i had a nap i had an hour long nap just to get rid of that you missed the opportunity
to have like a ghost pepper raw or something you know uh that sounds like a nightmare i don't think
i want to do that that would well if you can't feel anything in your mouth, I mean... My mouth isn't the problem with spicy
stuff. My mouth can handle all the spicy
in the world. It's my stomach
that immediately...
Actually, that's a fun story.
In a weird
turn of events, guys, I'm off
ghost supplements.
There's a cat. There's a cat on the screen.
Yeah, that's...
So, I've been taking...
Your favorite energy drink's gone?
I've had to limit them.
So, I was taking the Ghost Size,
right, which has the
carnipure creatinine in it, or whatever they're calling
it, right? It's their little
special blend.
And I was taking it forever,
and I was always having stomach problems,
but I was just like, okay, I drink too much.
I eat too much spicy stuff.
I was just blaming everything else because there was no way that my creatine supplement
was the thing.
But then I stopped taking it and I started adding unflavored creatine to my coffee and
beta alanine into my coffee in the morning.
And then one day went back to the ghost size and the stomach
problems came back three times old the following day and i finally had to clue in that i think that
the ghost size was trying to kill me and which sucks because i love their supplements i love
the company but i yeah like i think it was legitimately trying to kill me so we've had to no more ghost energy drinks i get them once a week now they still taste the best and
they have they're just the best in general but yeah i've had to back off of that because
oh boy did that ever i was in training for um for work and i missed half the training because i was
just out of the washroom constantly
and to the point where the trainer was like are you okay i was like no like no i'm not
so yeah let me go yeah so we're back on the worst hopefully that uh you know solves a problem or at
least you know know that if you do it it's self-inflicted it's your own damn fault but beta alanine in your morning coffee guys game changer i don't know know, know that if you do it, it's self-inflicted. It's your own damn fault. But beta alanine in your morning coffee, guys, game changer.
I don't know what you got.
Like, if you guys take the beta alanine on the regular.
No, that's the shit that makes your face tingly, isn't it?
It is the worst.
It is the worst tingly thing.
I loathe pre-workout with that in it.
I will never buy pre-workout with that in it.
I know, but when it's in your coffee
and it's the first thing in the morning
and you're just driving to work
and you're suddenly more alert than you've ever been,
all of my days have been better
since I started doing that.
And the creatine in the morning.
That does not sound pleasant
to me.
Maybe a chance to listen to the episode this week.
We'll do a little rating of the
Massanomics podcast episode.
This was the episode that Tommy and Tanner just kind of went over Grant's Benchton 315 video.
And then kind of, was it Greg Duchette or whatever the fuck?
He kind of contradicted, you know, enormous 200-pound men are enormous.
That was pretty good.
Enjoyed the episode, personally.
The one thing that kind of, wouldn't say it made me feel bad or anything, it's just like,
you know, it kind of makes you realize how weak you are sometimes when Tom is like, you
know, anyone that's been training for like six months ought to be able to have a 1,200
pound total.
And I'm like, fuck, I've been training for a decade and I don't have a 1,200 pound total.
I've had five years and I haven't even hit 1,000 yet, but thanks, Tommy.
But I also weigh 160 pounds. I weigh 100 more pounds 100 pounds and i still can't total 12 uh i did listen to that
what was your rating oh uh you know since tommy personally attacked me on that one uh we'll go
ahead and give it five massonomics gym ipod touches i. I did give it a listen.
Interestingly enough,
I've been following Pa O'Dwyer
ripping into Greg Doucette.
Oh, that was great.
Oh, yeah.
And so that Greg dude,
for those of you who don't know,
I'll give a brief thing.
Pa O'Dwyer is
my idol right now.
And I have actually started doing
kind of what he does
where you find
internet bullies and you just take them down you just take these these jerks that leave these
awful comments on people's lifts and they're almost always women's lifts and i just now like
i go to them and i just go we'll post yours because they're always locked accounts right
I just now like I go to them and I just go, well, post yours because they're always locked accounts. Right.
And, you know, as an anti-influencer type of guy, I think if anybody's if you have a locked account and you're leaving negative comments, fuck you.
You're a coward.
I'm just going to put that out there like you're just a coward.
And I did that to a guy this week.
I've actually laid into him pretty hard.
that to a guy this week i've actually laid into him pretty hard and then when they don't have a locked account you go to their posts and you copy and paste their comment onto one of their lifts
um so pa did that to greg uh after greg he he he went it laid hard into this lady
and she eventually reached out to him and was like hey man like your video is causing
me to get like death threats and like really negative stuff she said that to greg and greg
was like well if you don't like it don't put it on the internet so then pa demolished greg in a
video and greg reached out to pa and was like hey do you mind taking that down it's affecting
my mental health and pa was like well no you fucking cunt like i'm not gonna do that basically yeah right so and i actually if
you look at greg's last thing or pa's last video on greg i think i have one of the top comments
where i was like does this greg guy have a humiliation kink like does he want to get
demolished on the internet but yeah he's just a
rage farming douche so um anything tearing down these types of internet bullies i'm so in and i'm
so down so i'm gonna go ahead and give this week's episode five ukulele songs about cunts
well done yeah all right what do you got there matthias i was a huge fan of this week's episode
i like when uh just tanner and tommy sit and talk i mean uh i'm more of a fan of just uh them two
talking than interviewing a guest but um i i love the bashing the g talk. Did you guys know that his personal coaching for a year,
you could pay him $35,000 for like one-on-one everything coaching for a
year,
the price of a new car.
You didn't have Mr.
Parrot man talking to you every single day.
You're going to have Iago,
but some dumb asshole probably he's probably has like two or three dumb
assholes that do that.
Just cause he's got a million followers or 500 000 followers and it's just
like internet famous and i'm just like fuck dude no and then pays his mortgage with some bullshit
but then you know all you got to do is just don't take the trend that he got caught smuggling over
the border and claiming he's natty yeah fuck greg just said yeah i don't care if this goes viral
for that.
You're just an internet bully, man. And we all see you for what you are.
I'm not even that big.
And I'll tell you right now, don't follow
these guys. Don't give these guys your attention.
When I talk about bozos in the fitness
realm, that's a bozo.
Anyway, what was your rating there, Matthias?
Oh, sorry. 5 out of 5.
Of course.
5 out of 5 interrupting cats. dude this cat is driving me crazy he just has to be involved
yeah that cat's all over you like white on rice that's like it's all over you
well all right do you want to do you want to have the cat do a little ad read for us
i would love for him to all right let's hear it tails of the cat do a little ad read for us? I would love for him to. Alright, let's hear it.
The cat's
tails on his face.
I'm honestly nervous about him
ripping a tooth in the mic.
He is a pretty gassy cat.
The cat's trying to take down your microphone.
This is great.
I wish we posted
the video because the cat's like,
no, pay attention to me.
People think I put them purposely in my lifting videos I wish we posted the video because this is like, the cat's like, no, pay attention to me. Yeah.
People think I put him purposely in my lifting videos or put him on me or near me, but this is just how he is 24-7.
He just always has to be around.
He's just a needy boy.
Yeah, he is.
He's a cow cat, by the way, for those of you that can't see this.
That's a cow cat.
He's got the black and white cow markings.
All right.
So this podcast gives you all the information you need on how to get strong, how to stay strong, and how to use your strength.
Along with weekly sparkling water reviews and hot takes on politics, the Masonomics podcast covers it all.
I began listening near the beginning of the pandemic.
This cat.
I began listening near the beginning of the pandemic.
This cat.
Beginning of the pandemic and a couple of months ago became a podcast supporting member.
Coincidentally, my friend does not listen to the podcast and she tested positive for COVID.
I'm not saying that listening to the podcast and being a supporting member is the vaccine scientists are looking for.
But with everything going on, can you really take your chances?
All right.
We ready to kick all these listeners off and, you know, get our guests on the horn, Joy?
Yeah.
Yeah. Let's get our guests on the horn.
Let's kick out everybody.
All the looky-loos.
Ryan, Matt, Carp, all these people.
All right.
Big Matthias, Big Champagne Pappy pappy big c pappy is that you
oh that is me guys welcome you are on the unpaid and underrated podcast finally um
how's it how does it uh how's it going over there uh it's going amazing i can finally cross off a
number on my hall of hall of fame card well that's going to lead me can finally cross off a number on my Hall of Fame card.
Well, that's going to lead me to the first question then.
As of right now, what's your score?
Puts me at 8, which kind of kills me.
I thought I would have been a lot closer to 12, but being on here puts me at 8.
Outstanding. That's still incredible. That's still eight more than the average greg de set fan um um all right so uh what do you uh what do you
uh sorry i'm still kind of lost at the cat there. So what brought you to Masonomics?
Maybe that'll explain some of what we were hinting at earlier.
Tell me your Silly Goose origin story.
So I got really into powerlifting in college.
And I think what I saw, I think how I first saw Instagram, it was, I can't remember his name.
Actually, I went back to my saved posts because I had saved it.
But there was, they were doing their Jefferson deadlift contest.
And it was that dude who had like blurred out his nuts and everything.
So it looked like he was Jefferson deadlifting naked.
And then I eventually started listening to the podcast.
And at that time I was an RA.
So I was able, like I worked the front desk, like the night shift.
So I was able to like pretty much as soon as I heard about him, I went through the backlog.
I've been a super fan since then. as soon as I heard about him, I went through the backlog. There you go.
I've been a super fan since then.
I'm a big fan of backlog enjoyers there.
Yeah.
So who would have that been?
Who would have,
who would have that been?
The naked Jefferson power lifter?
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
It was this guy.
That was it in my saved, but geez but geez no i don't remember that at all
so many guys kind of come and go that like it's hard to yeah like that sounds like jonathan
oldham shit but like definitely wasn't him yeah i just yeah and then you were just like you were just in yeah i was like all right
these guys seem to be like because there was too much like with social media like dudes being too
serious about lifting and be like oh i'm so hard for lifting and i just i've never been a fan of
that and there's just like the perfect escape from i don't know tools who are into lifting and
the gym um so people going to war with the bar exactly yeah yeah that yeah no i forgot to put
that up there in the general topics um daniel mckim's video today where he was yes so yeah
a tag a comment tag he pinned me yeah he pinned that one because
like yeah he he doesn't take things seriously and we like to mock people that do all right well what
is your uh what's your what's your ig and discord and am i actually pronouncing your first name
right because joey's saying it differently than i am and maybe i'm not saying your name correctly
no you are i just i don't really care how people say my name um so right now at this than i am and maybe i'm not saying your name correctly no you are i just i
don't really care how people say my name um so right now at this moment i am uh i think it's c
dot pappy c pat b on instagram but i used to be like matt c lifts that matt strikes back um
uh there's been a couple but I just get forward and change it.
Yeah.
The effort to change your Instagram handle.
Like, that's one thing I've just never been like, nah, I definitely need to change that today.
It makes it that much harder for people to know who you are and to follow you.
Like, they're going to be like, is this that guy that I followed four years ago?
I don't remember this name.
Unfollow, kind of.
I don't know.
I loathe the changing of the names.
I'm just like, goddammit. Sorry, Keith. this name unfollow kind of way i don't know i loathe the changing of the names god damn it
sorry no no well it mainly is as a person that like spends at least an hour a week looking for
people on instagram and trying to dm people it's like fuck have a name that i can just type out
not all these goddamn fucking so so just a heads up the guy that has four Instagram accounts really hates it when you're hard to find. Yeah.
Yeah.
Um,
but I guess I can be found at the unpaid and underrated podcast.
And I,
I technically have a personal Instagram that I never use anymore.
But,
uh,
when I started getting into lifting,
I was like,
ah,
I want to be able to post like lifting stuff,
but these are all like friends and family from home nobody cares about that so that massanomics contest came around with the the meme contest
i was like oh perfect there's a perfect time for me to create an instagram and well it makes sense
so everybody go give him a follow over there on the ig um where are you from where do you live
because your accent doesn't resonate with where I know you currently live.
Wait, I have an accent?
Or maybe I'm just way off.
Oh, I don't know.
You go just...
Where are you from? Where do you live?
So I am from Illinois, pretty much.
But I currently live in Terre Haute, Indiana.
I've been here now, shoot, six, maybe six years or so.
Yeah, six years.
And then I grew up in Illinois since like the third grade.
But yeah.
Nice.
That definitely made it easier to get to home gym con though.
I was jealous of you.
Fuckers that only had like a three hour drive or less. I'm i'm like oh that must be nice yeah don't have to spend a
thousand dollars to go hanging out with your homies yeah but this drive to aberdeen is going
to be brutal you guys are driving i mean that's i mean you are mid to your midwest what are you
like is the upper midwest are you like 14 hours or 15 hours it's like 13 and some change. That's almost...
I mean, that versus
the alternative of $1,000
per person to fly out.
Your wife's coming out, right? Yes, she is.
So you can split the driving. Are you going to
do it over two days or just have it a one monster
day? One, and unfortunately
I'll probably have to leave right after
the meet because we have to be back
in town Sunday at like noon.
So good luck.
Yeah, I know.
You're going to miss out on that was poor planning.
I know.
I know.
But I just I couldn't pass the opportunity.
I missed it last year.
I was kind of sad about missing it.
But opportunity fell my life.
So I was like, I just got to do it.
What's so important on Sunday that you can't cancel and come hang out because i think what we're what we did last year was we
all went to the gym after breakfast we're all hungover exhausted a lot of us lifted most of
us drank and then we were like well let's go fuck around at the massonomics gym and be stupid and
that's where actually we got a lot of the strength co videos that were made there
actually one of the
videos of delifting I recorded
like we just went
there and were stupid so like I think
that's the thing we don't talk about is
like they talk about the Thursday
pounders meet up talk about
the Friday Tanner meet up the Saturday
meet the zoo but the Sunday
where it's just like well let's go
be stupid yeah you did so you got work or uh between you and your wife someone's got work
or family something no so her one of her good friends it's her baby's first birthday party
wow that's that that's you should drive two cars because that ain't fucking worth missing out
you can miss that there's tons of first birthdays in the world and by and by leaving the meet
immediately does that mean you're not going to watch the strongman show that you're abandoning
big keith and his strongman aspirations and you're just going to say fuck this guy i'm going to go
home i want to see it so bad maybe you guys can convince her oh if you guys can convince her it
would be much obliged i mean well that kid, that kid's going to have like 97
more birthdays. I know, right?
I'll be there for a year or two. I did just get done
bitching about how birthday is like the most important day
to a one-year-old. How important is it to
a one-year-old? It's just your... Very true.
That kid won't know you're there.
True. True, true.
Nor will, like, them.
Damn, that sucks, man. I'm sorry to hear that.
I'm stoked you're coming out
yeah i'm thrilled you're going to be there anyway you kind of i'm so excited you kind of can tell
we can slide into that story briefly so you actually got on the wait list a while ago right
and then uh i think you ended up essentially taking either mine or uh or sam's spot basically
sam and i both switched over to strongman and dave reached out to whoever was on the wait list
and you must have been one of the first guys that were able to take it so that was pretty cool yeah so i um
i didn't even know that uh getting on the waitlist was possible um but uh that call-in episode they
had talked or asked if i was doing the meet and i said i didn't get on on time and they said oh
just reach out to the meet director so a couple couple of weeks later, you guys both dropped.
So I got my chance to go.
So it kind of sucks.
I wasn't like prepping for this meat.
So my prep's been kind of poor, but we'll see.
I mean, this meat almost and like I'll put it out there now for anybody that thinks, you know, any differently.
This meat, I'm not expecting to even pull prs i'm coming in at
like the weakest i've been because right like i i'm training but i'm also gonna be 40 in this year
so like i don't even think i'm gonna pull a deadlift pr or squat pr but i'm gonna do something
at the lift hard live easy like that's the goal Even if I do one plate, bench, squat, and dead, and I total 200 pounds, I don't give a shit.
I'm doing something there.
Yeah.
I just really have it in my head that I need to PR everything because this will be my last meet with my coach, unfortunately.
He's been with me for my entire entire powerlifting career and he's like
really grown me and i'm honestly really sad about him like not continuing services
oh he's okay i was gonna wonder is there some story there okay yeah so yeah do you have
something lined up or you were like juggernaut from personal coaching for years. Just juggernaut it. Yeah. Yeah. So I actually,
I've reached out to a couple of people,
but I have a consult with Joe Stanek next week.
So we'll see.
I haven't like signed any sort of,
yes,
I'll be with you for three months,
but I'm just going to give him a try since he coaches Austin Perkins.
And I mean,
if it's working for austin you know
maybe it'll work for me i mean your your total is right up there with austin's isn't it uh so
you're all you're a one are you you're 165 and i'm pretty sure you out total 80 of the people
that are going to be the lift hard live easy at like enormous body weights i mean i am of the
thinking like yes uh like pound for pound sure sometimes plays, yes, like pound for pound.
Sure.
Sometimes plays a role.
Not even pound for pound.
Don't you total?
Like, what's your total?
My best is 1603.
There's 1600 fucking pounds.
There's like three people that will be there that fucking total 1600 pounds at best.
Like there probably won't.
Like you legit might have the biggest fucking total or top.
You'll for sure have top three totals, I'd imagine, at all body weight.
Oh, what's his name?
He was just mentioned.
They called him the 5X model on this last week's episode.
Bryce, yeah.
I mean, he's probably going to pull some nasty numbers, spot something nasty.
There might be some bigger totals there that I'm thinking of,
but regardless,
you're going to be in the top fucking five,
like 1600 pounds at one 65.
Are you actually going to make one 65 or you're going to go into it?
Oh yeah.
No,
no,
I,
uh,
I'm actually a little lighter than I want to be right now.
Um,
I kind of fall into the,
when I get busy,
I don't eat.
So I'm like one 68 and it kind of kills training. So we'll see. I'm so fucking mad. I don't eat, so I'm like 168 and it kind of kills
training, so we'll see.
I'm so fucking mad. I
went into 162
on my last RP 10 lift day
or 10 RP deadlift day
and
it was wild because the day before
I was 166. I was like,
how the fuck did I lose that
much weight overnight still did the
the four plates for reps but like still and here you are like oh 168 where
1600 pound total you're strong as shit man that's actually yeah i i wanted to put that out there i
was just scrolling through your stuff today and i was just like this dude is strong as
hell and like you don't often hear me do sets and reps or or fanboy or anything but like it's very
rare that i it's like you and scott dodds are now the only people that i would say this you're
strong as shit dude so good work i appreciate it yeah what would you end up pulling at home
gym con i know you you hit like a 40 poundpound, like, gym PR, didn't you?
It was pound plate,
deep dish pound plates on a deadlift
bar. Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Are you sure you pulled 700 pounds in you
or like 670 or something stupid?
675. I couldn't
lock out seven.
But you also, like, didn't...
I literally told you there was going to be a deadlift party and you didn't know
about it until a half hour before and you were just kind of like,
I can deadlift.
I know how to deadlift.
Literally just a borrowed belt
and no gear or anything.
Just pulling in jeans like Larry the Legend
just walks up and was like, I bet I could lift
that. That was a fun day.
That was cool to watch.
So all of the shit in the background
there uh i posted a picture there so some people are going to see this go ahead no worries there's
one color i don't see so my question to you is what don't you own that you wish you did
oh my goodness i mean obviously everything um i really regret actually so there's like items and shirts i really regret not getting
the metal nomics shirt um i obviously have like a lot of black shirts so i kind of went through a
time where i was like i can't buy any more black shirts like all i wear is black on black and black
i'm pretty i'm pretty done with black shirts yeah i get it get it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I, I really wish I got that.
And then I wish I had,
um,
more of the coffee mugs.
Of course,
my cat knocked the coffee mug off the counter.
So it's busted.
And yeah,
we thought it was dishwashers that would take those down.
Yeah.
I actually have two of those.
I have one I use until it's,
it's gone.
And then I have another one that was secretly slid to me at
the Arnold.
I don't see any blue up there.
Oh, yeah.
Is it there? It's just hiding?
I think I see the lift
shirt. It's just hidden.
I'm thinking of the Yeah Buddy.
He's got the bench.
Yep.
I don't see the yeah, buddy.
Yeah, I tried to buy that off of, well, I was in line after Big Sam to get that off of Big Jake.
But I unfortunately do not have it.
Actually, I have the Crispy Boys 2.0, and I think that has the Yeah Buddy on it.
Hold on.
I got to check.
Sorry.
That's all good.
That's all right.
Yeah.
Sorry.
He's showing us his home gym there.
It's got a nice.
You can see some calibrated plates.
The only nitpick I'd have with that is he's got some face out and some face in.
Why would the calibrated plates be face in on some places and face out on the others?
I just, I'll never understand.
Sorry, what was that?
I haven't.
Oh, we were just, I was making small talk, you know, as everyone likes to hear small talk on this podcast.
You know, your calibrated plates, unless I'm looking at him wrong, you got some facing out and some facing in.
Is that just, you know, laziness?
Yes, 100% laziness.
It's because not everybody is that insane i actually cleaned up my gym for
this i usually leave all of my plates on the bar and i'm saying whatever what bar um so i have
i bought forever ago a uh rogue boneyard bar this is the one i had like shipped to like my
college dorm and everything like that.
And then I have a lemon when I deadlift off of is that belts of steel bear naked one.
I have that bar.
Yep.
What do you think about it?
So I remember I came from a hundred pound Northern lights made in China
thing,
right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the first bar i ever owned and
it was i don't think it was 45 pounds i think it was closer to 41 but it was the first bar i ever
owned and then when i bought the bells of steel i didn't realize what bars could be and then i was
like i love this bar because it's so much better than this one i've been lifting on not to say there's
anything wrong with the northern lights one there's it was there when i needed it
talking about it like it's like like family uh it's actually currently sitting with my friend
megan but then i went to the texas deadlift bar and then again that was the next like wait a minute
bars can be like this? I love my bare steel
bells of steel bar.
It's rusted as shit
because it's in the basement
and still holds up.
So I have zero complaints about that bar.
But I also don't have a lot of frame of reference.
Gotcha.
My biggest complaint with it,
the knurling is there,
but it's almost like round. almost like round like yeah and it's
not as fine yeah yeah it's mountainous it's not volcanic uh-huh there you go and and but at the
same time i don't use it for deadlifts because i bought a deadlift bar fair enough right so i i
i deadlift on my texas power lift texas deadlift. I was deadlifting on that bar. And again,
still better than what I was using,
but I don't use it anymore.
Stiff bar deadlifts are fantastic and really fun,
but not as interesting.
Like the pull into the slack,
you hear the clink before it's even lifted.
You clink,
clink,
and then you're up.
But like deadlift bars are just where it's at.
See,
unfortunately I'm a USAPL fan boy.
So this has just hurt my soul right here.
So when are you going to, are you going to go Pirate of the United States?
Are you going to go to the United States in America and try to get in the Sheffield?
I'm not going to go to Nashville.
I don't know.
But I mean, like a lot of people have been jumping over to Paralympic in America so they can try to get them to the was it a national or not nationals but uh worlds or whatever so i don't that's something that was ever an aspiration
or you're content with usapl i'm gonna stick usapl i'm not good enough for worlds or anything
my and there's no uh really pa uh meets around me it's all we just now started having usapl meets
so that's why i started out doing USPA.
It was around COVID times.
They were the only fed who were,
was doing meets.
So I've just now recently,
you know,
in the past two years,
I've started doing USAPL meets.
Makes sense.
You want to do a quick little game of least fun,
most fun.
Are you familiar with that game?
We started a little while ago.
I don't have to, I don't have to give the details. Okay. So I've listened to every app. Come on. Nice. Atta boy. Least fun fun most fun are you familiar with that game we started a little while ago i don't have to i don't have to give the details okay so i've listened every episode come on nice
attaboy least fun most fun lifting with cats oh my gosh um least fun is uh big old scratches
off your back or your legs or oh my god like when you're benching sometimes your cat will jump up like right onto your balls.
Um, sometimes they just like, or when I'm benching, he'll try and get like right underneath where I'm like, like I could like crush them.
So it's almost too much of a hassle, but I don't have a door to my basement.
So I might put it in a door to my basement.
So I close them off.
It'd be hard.
Yeah.
Uh,
but I mean,
most fun is,
I guess,
uh,
I,
I mean,
you know,
got,
uh,
like $2 off the video.
So that's the most fun.
Yeah.
Uh,
yeah,
there,
there's no,
uh,
God,
there's a word I'm looking for here.
Uh,
there's no cues in the jungle,
right?
But there's, but there's lots of cats.
Yeah.
So maybe it's making you stronger.
You never know.
Very true.
You know, you're trying not to drop that bench and there's a cat under you.
Well, you ain't dropping that bench.
Sure.
Sure.
For sure.
Yeah.
When, when mine are downstairs and I'm dead lifting, like that's when I have just a, or,
or clean and pressing.
Cause I'm like, if I drop this, I could literally kill my fucking
cat. You're dropping a clean and
press from over her head.
Cats are quick, but if they don't see it,
that would be...
Tell my wife that I killed her cat. She'd fucking
divorce me in a second, dude. 100%.
He's very terrifying.
Second one.
You want to do a least fun, most fun for home gym
con, your experience that weekend? Least fun, most fun. I mean a least fun most fun for home gym con your experience that week
least fun
most fun I mean obviously most
fun was like meeting all the crew
and
obviously getting to meet Tanner and Tom
that was my first time meeting him
least fun
probably that lady who was getting on Huck Finn
the whole time
that was the least fun
because he wasn't supposed to be drinking
and shit and having a cool little pour of beer
yeah
what? I didn't hear any of that
so somebody knew
she was there?
yeah she was like the admin or something
and she's like you're Huck Finn you can't come here
and drink beer
he was just being an asshole like he always is so yeah that's hug yeah
that's tom like he was not in like that wasn't the place for him essentially i was oh okay you
know what i mean like he was being a douchebag and like it wasn't the place to be a douchebag
more or less but it was still decent um so that was those two i'm good with that
uh what what do you what do you do for a living that you want to share anything about
um so i work at a place called great dane trailers um probably seen in my videos or
something like that there's i have like a map from there so we make semi trailers
yep that's what i do you're an engineer or something you like just basically trying to like a map from there. So we make semi-trailers. Oh, sweet. Yep.
That's what I do.
So you're an engineer or something?
You like just basically try to figure out how to make the best ones?
So I'm in the quality department. I just recently moved over from our lean team.
So right now just root cause analysis on quality issues
and creating processes for like quality checks, things like that.
So it sounds like you're a little bit of a technical guy.
We have our own technical guy.
I heard that he was, you and him were at, you know, going back and forth there for a while
for some VBT stuff.
So did you ever follow through and make your gauge for that?
You want to tell people what that is
and if you ever followed through on it?
So I'm surprised he remembered that.
That was honestly forever ago.
So I have this idea where I could make,
so I really wanted to use a velocity trainer.
So like now they're a lot more popular and you have like the Juggernaut app
that now tracks it to your phone.
But a couple of years ago, all you could get was a it's like this device that hooks to your barbell and it'll measure speed of your barbell.
So just another metric. I was like, I could do that with a Arduino and like a rotary encoder.
And it's just like 3D print.
Flywheel case, all that.
I have the program done I have not done any of the
design side so
I just did another project that I started
and just let die so
I'm actually surprised he remembered that though
oh yeah
he's got a good memory
Nate remembers
it's a bit psychotic sometimes
uh so speaking of uh what the crew hates when we talk about you did some wrestling back in high
school yes sir high school middle school yep my goodness that's why i guess i'm so comfortable
in a singlet i get for some people like getting into powerlifting i guess that's the turnoff form but i'm like there's second nature like it's even
better you get to wear shirts you're yeah for sure less naked yeah do you have to wear singlets in
in strongman no it's you don't have to do it like the only thing the only restrictions is some
directors will make you wear their me their show shirt just to publicize them more um other than
that and this is from my fucking vast experience of one show and a little bit of youtubing and
just being with friends with them but uh yeah uh there's minimal restrictions on uh what you can do
that strongman is calling my name isn't it are you feeling like this is your first time really diving into strongman prep and strongman
work i mean i'm not like balls deep into a prep like i would be if it was powerlifting just because
i i don't have all the implements at my house and i don't have the time or really the desire to go
to the commercial gym like and train a couple days a week so i make and do with i've done stones once
like literally once and i
just i just actually lapped the 200 pound 210 pound sandbag yesterday when i think we have to
do a 240 240 stone which which i've done the 240 stone multiple times um so i know i can get it at
least a few reps it's just i should get it i need to get in one or two more sessions with the the
strongman coach there and like get tacky i need i need to do a session
with tacky where i actually tape my arms first so i don't just destroy them i'm more comfortable
putting the tacky on and stuff i just i fucking i was traveling all this week i got my birthday
i've got fucking more travel coming up so i really do need to break i need to get on my
calendar and actually make a couple appointments though but in general my overhead press is i'm
happy with where that's progressing um tomorrow or sat, I have my deadlift AMRAP at like 90% of comp weight.
So that'll give me a good baseline of like an idea of what I can,
because I'm actually going to do like a, I think my,
well my coach has it as an AMRAP.
I'm going to have someone do a 60 second clock and actually like see where I'm
at. I don't necessarily want to do an AMRAP.
I want to do 60 seconds, like exactly just like it'll be in the comp.
So if you really want to work your overhead sorry to interrupt you there um i have a hint here so this company just released these things called the angel arms
right where you're going to put them on your rack so that you can practice your overhead you should
get some of those those seem like really right up your alley for practice in your overhead
that's not what they're called. Yeah.
Yeah.
That was their original idea.
Yeah.
All day.
Yeah.
Hope people have been enjoying my memes.
No, I just actually,
I have no clue what you're talking about,
but I just happened to see that post.
I think Hogan said they released a thing where they're trying to defend themselves and i was just like oh yeah and have a burner account yeah yeah it's it's it's a shit show and i just feel bad for the guys they're fucking over
but it's like you're just giving me like i've got like fucking 20 new followers on my personal pay
or my gym page just because i'm making a bunch of fucking memes you're getting shared so i'm like
i guess win for me yeah no i'm losing
followers out here so influence influencing if i don't have to leave on early or right after the
meet you guys have to show me how to pick up a stone our gym actually has a stone and i've tried
to pick it up and i couldn't even get off the ground i don't know how much it weighs i can't
imagine doing a 240 pound stone for reps. That's fucking ridiculous.
So like,
I think I was,
I,
I just didn't want to screw around because I knew a,
I was hung over tired and I had to drive with Steve for 21 hours. And he was like,
do not bust your bicep.
I don't want to listen to you cry for the entire drive.
So I don't think I went anything over the 80 pound stone.
I think I might've tried the one 20,
but yeah,
doing double that.
It's luckily we had,
luckily we had Megan there.
Right.
Luckily we had Megan stone there to,
to teach us the proper.
And it really was like,
she showed us and like,
it was a class and it was like to us and the strength co and a bunch of
other of this crew and Tanner was there and like, it to us and the Strength Co. and a bunch of other of this crew.
Tanner was there. It was pretty dope,
actually.
Nicknames.
Do you still go by Cash Money?
Is that what people like to call you still?
Some people have in the past.
I let people call me anything.
What the fuck is that?
That did not come through how I wanted.
Oh, that's great. I can attest I let people call me anything. The fuck is that? That did not come through how I wanted.
Oh, that's great. That is, it's, yeah.
So I can, I can attest,
anytime you try to do a background on Zoom,
like it crops it in the most like inconvenient way
from what you want it to do.
Cause I used to regularly like take pictures
that would like kind of either poke at
or like get a reaction from the guests.
But then it would take me like,
I'd have to, I'd have to try it 10 times until i have like the right like compression because i can't do it from
on my phone where it'd be super easy it's i gotta like send it to my fucking laptop and download it
and it's just it's a big pain in the balls but it looks like you you're trying to compare me to
joey swall as if there's any comparison well i just i spent so much time last night trying to
get this mess on versus it's...
No, tell us.
Tell us.
Describe it.
Read it to us.
So we've got you versus Joey Swole.
So we've got calls people out for bullying on Joey Swole's side.
And then you've got saying words wrong on yours.
Owner of, I have no idea, Joey Swole owns this like flavor company.
Oh, yeah.
And we've got Dilt Dungeon
for you and then
always has Joey Swole has a hat
on and then you always have
like the urge to lift natural stones
I fucking love lifting rocks
saying is do better and
then yours is influencing the
influencer or something like that
I've never said that
that's what makes it so much
funnier that is that is such a us joke oh that it is that's an ongoing thing like i've never said
that sentence it's i'm the anti-influencer and keith calls me an influencer well that's great
though that's good shit and that picture i think my wife did right the one with me and the tiger
yeah she'll be happy to hear that yeah that's she made that one i did my own little prep work out of stocks of social media so hell
yeah i love it yeah you'll just send me that we'll can uh we'll we'll get it we'll get it posted up
for the gram later sure i did the gram who's the influencer now all of us um well speaking of
influencer nobody likes uh you know as always again big big mat can't make it um and
i hear you have you also have an issue with big mats uh but your your issue is with big bath mats
what is what what's your what's your obsession with not liking the bath and and i just want to
clear up like you're talking about like the one that you stand on outside of the shower not like
the really slippery one that some people have inside the shower for like no flip shit no no so oh my gosh it started when i was a kid so when we would go visit my great
grandparents um they had a bunch of bath mats in their bathroom and my mom before we went over she
said like be careful of going in the bathroom. Like your great grandpa is getting old and like his aim is pretty poor.
So like,
don't step on the bath mats cause they're covered in pee.
And I just,
I don't think that's ever left me.
Like I,
even with shoes on,
I,
and going to other people's houses,
like I just won't step on them.
It just,
the idea of that touching me,
like makes my skin crawl.
Oh yeah.
But it's, it's the fuzzy kind too and i don't get how people like putting their bare feet on like i'm a dude i stand to go pee
i see like splatter comes off sometimes it goes somewhere it's gonna go on the mat like
that's a breeding ground of pee like yeah i yeah, I don't know. So I can concur that like the,
the,
the cloth mat around the toilet's disgusting,
but like standing on a bath mat when I get out of the shower is much better
than like always having to get a towel out and do it or,
or just getting my tile all wet and shit.
So I get that.
I've got my house slippers like,
or slides,
I guess just right outside the shower.
So I'll hop, I'll put those right on right away, but I just
can't do it.
Speaking about
not being able to control your urine,
we were told to ask you about the last
time you peed the bed. Oh my gosh.
Oh.
It was in the notes.
What I was asked to do
by your spouse.
Did I talk about me pissing.
Did I talk about me pissing in the bed two weeks ago?
After the garage gym?
Yeah.
So there you go.
Like, not the first time, man.
Fair enough.
So in high school, I did pole vaults.
That was the last time in high school?
Oh, probably not.
But this is the most notable time.
So I did pole vault and there was like this conference in uh reno nevada that i went to uh like i was on a power
or a pole vault team who went there and so of course like trying to be the good athlete of
course i obviously am only jumping like 12 foot. I'm like pounding water like for preparation for the next day.
So I, of course, we're sharing a hotel room and beds.
So there's three other dudes in this room with me and I have a classic toilet dream.
So, you know, I wake up and I'm peeing myself in a shared bed and so i it's like
5 a.m i'm the one that's the book no no cuddling was done or if it was socks were on um but you
know i get a towel i put it down i lay on it all night and they get up and they're like hey we're
gonna go to breakfast you want to come come? I'm like, no,
I just want to be in bed a little while longer. And they, they leave.
I stripped the bed. I write a note to the, uh, the cleaning lady is like,
please give us new sheets. I peed the bed. I'm so sorry.
And then left for the day. So talk about digital footprint now.
Oh my gosh.
That's good stuff.
That is pretty funny.
But I mean,
it's not even that embarrassing.
Like it's like that shit.
When you're pounding that much water,
that's going to happen.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
That same vein by the same submission under embarrassing facts. We were,
you know,
demanded to ask you about the craziest place you've done number two.
This podcast loves hearing about weird
poops.
Essentially, your best poop story because someone
thinks you got one.
I, like many other crew members,
have many pooping off
the side of the mountain stories. I've gone
backpacking with my friends, but
the craziest place I've taken a dump at
I also ran cross country in high school.
And we would have what you call like free days where you're just the coach says go out and run for 45 minutes.
So being young men, we're not going to go and run for 45 minutes.
We're going to go find a place to screw around and then come back.
So there was this parking garage.
Also, what is the statute of like limitations
so i'm pretty sure there's a legal but i guess i was under 18 so um whatever this is a comedy
podcast this is a fake story so this is for entertainment purposes only. Exactly. Hypothetically, this is me. Yeah. We're running to this parking garage.
We run to the top.
And so you know how parking garages will circle around and there's like this perfect column all the way down.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I have the bright idea.
I'm like, I didn't even need to go.
I'm like, dude, I could poop down this and it would be crazy.
Think of like my poop falling like six stories all the way down it doesn't even make it it goes down like two stories and lands in
front of this person's car who so i love there's like spotters to be like an opiate on the
yeah and the crazy thing is like i mean, that was not the tallest building around.
There definitely was someone in, like, an office building or one of the college dorms nearby who could definitely see me, like, taking a dump on top of this.
Yeah.
Gosh.
That's a good one.
That might be the worst one.
Yeah.
It's shameful.
I'm embarrassed. That one had malice. That wasn't even necessity. worst one. Yeah, it's shameful. I'm embarrassed.
That one had malice. That wasn't even necessity.
That one.
That's messed up.
Gravity and poop. That wasn't even like...
Ugh, that's alright.
A malicious shit. We've never had one of those. That's good stuff.
All of mine are malicious shits.
Yeah, that's me every morning.
Come on now.
As long as you make it there, you're not
flossing it.
What do you got
for him, Joey? I feel like I've
monopolized a little bit of that.
I don't have anything
at the moment.
For those of you who don't know,
I've dipped out twice now. I went to the washroom once
and I'm actually trying to
soak my original lift hat.
So my black lift hat
Is that what you sharted on?
The one you blew the back out.
We shart on hats here.
Yeah, it's orange
from all the sweat and I've just
like, I think it was one of the Davids
called it my working hard hat.
So I soaked it like two
hours ago. I put it in there.
I set a timer for half an hour.
I looked at that.
I was like, okay, that's half an hour.
I'll give it another 15 minutes.
That was two hours ago.
So the first time I actually bailed was to go and ask Morgan.
I was like, can you please go take that out of the soak so it doesn't ruin?
So I kind of like lost track of what we're doing here.
Cause like I suddenly panicked that I damaged my hat but like what's the worst like what's the worst
case I damaged my already disgusting
hat
um almost makes it
better so
it's got a story as a character
we'll find out we'll find out um
definitely not talking about that
that one right off
uh uh
right off some of my friends are I took that one right off.
Some of my friends are pretty unhinged, so I just... No, it's just the kind of stuff that, like...
We just don't. We don't do that here.
Fair enough.
The Wakanda salute thing, right? We don't do that.
Fair enough.
So you like to bounce around on your jobs.
So we've got you at a couple.
We've got you at Subway, got you at Walmart.
I'm assuming those were from when he was a kid.
Fair enough, fair enough.
What's your favorite sandwich?
My favorite sandwich?
We don't talk about that enough.
We don't talk about this.
We've had the whole everything's a super salad conversation.
We don't have best
sandwich and i want to hear it i want to hear it your favorite sandwich not to make to eat
eat from subway my favorite sandwich would be probably the spicy talent with uh it doesn't
have to be from subway just whatever you Like you have unlimited ingredients in front of you and they go,
make a sandwich, go.
What are you making?
I am making a everything bagel with the,
like that laughing cow triangle.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Soft cheese.
Yep.
Got one fried egg, obviously sunny side up.
Do you use the little circle, the Magoo? Do you make it a circle? Have you used one of those before?
Oh, no. I just throw it on my pan.
Oh, I have one of those. You dip it in, you make it a circle, or you slice an onion and you use an onion slice to keep it in a circle.
It's not a bad idea. You could probably get a nicer patty that way.
Yep, absolutely.
It's not a bad idea.
You can probably get a nicer patty that way.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Yeah. Throw that on there.
Bacon and then turkey sliced.
Turkey slices.
Cold turkey or fresh turkey?
Cold turkey.
Well, I don't have fresh turkey, so it'll be, you know.
I don't mean like you killed a turkey and threw it on.
I just mean like I'm using like turkey breast or you're using turkey cold cuts.
Gotcha.
Turkey cold cuts.
You're not out here shooting jakes.
We're out here.
Keith, what's your ideal sandwich, buddy?
Steak sandwich. I like
a Philly cheesesteak. I know that's
not the right kind of sandwich we're talking about,
but it's hard to be...
It's a sandwich. It's two things between bread. It's like a hot dog.
Yeah, so any kind of
steak and cheese, but it's got to be like
a shaved steak. i don't love like
you love steak you love steak like the amount of times you talk about going for steak it's insane
i think that's tommy's favorite sandwich right he does he did yeah he stole that from me the
other day i was like you son of a bitch talking about my sandwiches and then i asked him like
what's your favorite sandwiches uh which i tried to like get him to like gillick to like like
mount rushmore of uh
like restaurant steak sandwiches and he was just like i don't know go go to go go to go to pounders
okay that doesn't help me like in like i want to experience like other like name like chain
steak sandwiches that other people think are good so you know what has a surprisingly good
sandwich is the rb zero for being a fast food. Yeah. Arby's Euro is decent.
I'll try it.
I got an Arby's right by my house.
Um,
so my ideal sandwich as a guy that doesn't like ham,
I'm a ham and Swiss guy.
Really?
I do not like ham either.
Oh,
I actually detest ham,
but you give me a good ham,
Swiss cheese and that crunchy mustard.
You know,
the mustard that's like,
like pellets,
mustard pellets.
No, the, so you can get, you can get like the squeezy mustard, right?
But you can get mustard that's like, like little pellets of mustard that you go on, you bite into the explosions of mustard.
Yeah, you put those, you get those in the Hammond Swiss or even a BLT.
That's, but I'm, I a ham and swiss guy for some
weird way a mustard gusher huh mustard gusher it is yeah that is technically what it is i'll send
a picture of it if i can at some point i know somebody in crew knows what i'm talking about
probably one of the european guys yeah probably uh i will follow back up with that like my favorite
ham um i don't love like i don't know
i like cold lunch meat ham's okay but i don't like like like like ham steaks are gross yeah
what i really like to do is i for some reason i always say shave steak no one knows what i'm
talking about like you go to a deli and you essentially just ask them to cut it as thin
as possible like like as thin as you can think and then cut it like half of that thickness so
it just like falls apart so put a bunch of that in a frying pan with a bunch of brown sugar.
Let it all marbleize and shit and then top
it off with like a shit ton of mozzarella
cheese and let it all like melt on it
and then put, you know, make two or three
like hamburger buns with some
Miracle Whip and then all that ham and cheese
on it. It's the fucking best hot ham and cheese
sandwich I've ever had. I mean, it's horrible for you
because it's got, it's literally lathered
in brown sugar, but it's so fucking... so what if you replace that brown sugar with maple syrup
i don't know i guess but no i'm gonna try it i like the brown sugar because it like it literally
like caramelizes yeah but so with the maple so with the maple syrup like real maple syrup not
that maple syrup adjacent shit like antihem is like actual good but i don't know that's just like
so like i've got like three things from my childhood that i remember my mom making them
as like a family like meal regularly and that's like one that i will like i will make that like
i will go to the fucking deli and get like shaved ham like once a year and just have a pig out
fucking eat like a whole frying pan it's got to be shaved ham it's got to be shaved ham yes it's
almost even better like the next day cold no i won't warm
it up or anything i'll just eat that shit cold right out of the thing and just like i sometimes
i won't even make another sandwich out of it i'll just eat the fucking ham and cheese like concoction
uh all right speaking of uh shaved meats have you guys had the uh mcdonald's uh steak and egg bagel
uh no i've been interested that is the oh well it was i remember it was my go-to drunk
like mcdonald's like forever like i would i would always get mcdonald's because you'd be out partying
and by the time they would actually still have they'd have the breast like i would be coming
home when the breakfast committee was already out yeah and it was always a steak a steak egg
and cheese bagel yeah it was just the greasiest thing and it was like oh yeah it was like the
most expensive thing on their menu too.
It was like a $6,
$7 sandwich,
but yeah.
Yeah.
Horrible fake steak.
But yeah,
that was my,
that was my go-to drunk McDonald's food.
That's my go-to.
I had one this morning,
so it's just the go-to.
I,
I,
I'm almost always a bacon breakfast guy.
I've been Tim,
Tim Hortons does the,
the two for six every now and then,
uh, where you can get like a bacon or sausage uh tim horton is a chain from canada uh that
happened to leak over into new york i don't know if you knew that with eyes but uh no that's a
that's an american thing sorry tim hortons actually they are owned by they are owned by
actually they're owned by germans now i think oh really okay yeah yeah no they got bought out by somebody international
oh i was just giving you a hard time yeah no no you're actually kind of correct started here
actually in my hometown tim hortons actually the original tim hortons is here in my hometown on
ottawa street there's a museum dedicated because tim horton was a hockey player yeah um and he started this donut chain
with him and another guy he actually died pretty violently yeah i think he he james dean did he i
think he hit a tree um but yeah that actually tim horton started here in my city and it just
says now spread out and i think it is internationally owned um still not as interesting as uh shooting somebody on your uh wedding night tell me about
that story like i said he technically didn't shoot get shot i know i know i just wanted to
just like lean that was a segue but it sounds like an interesting story. No, I've ruined it. So, um, for my bachelor party,
uh,
we went out and I had just recently bought a hunting rifle.
Um,
it was chambered.
It's chambered in six,
five Creedmoor.
Um,
and I probably should have worn my,
like,
I think he's probably shot guns before,
but like,
I was like,
I probably should have shown him how to like properly shoulder and
everything.
So he had it loose.
And I think he was probably a little too close to the scope.
So he's probably this far away from it.
And he shoots and kicks back.
And the scope cuts him deep into his forehead and an eye.
And he's also the guy who's marrying my wife and I.
The minister. Yeah. So, um,
yeah.
So we had to get them to the ER.
He got all glued up,
but no,
it's a very interesting night.
No,
that,
that was my buddy,
Jay.
Shout out,
Jace.
He's the man.
So I love Jace.
He's actually about to have a baby also crew member.
So, Oh,
nice.
Hey,
welcome.
Yeah.
We like crew members, so you should
even if you didn't come
to home gym con, you should have had the
post a picture with a fellow crew, because all you have to do is find
your buddy. Fair enough, fair enough.
All right, I'm going to move into
Mount Rushmore. Do it? Okay.
I know, this is rapid fire right now.
We are
speeding through. Mount Rushmore?
Pizzas.
Mount Rushmore pizzas. Obviously,. Mount Rushmore, pizzas. Obviously,
Domino's.
Are we talking chains or pizza?
It's up to you, man.
You got your druthers.
Domino's, and that's it.
Everything else sucks.
Papa John's, it's on site. Pizza Hut,
it's on site. I was the delivery driver
in college.
So, you know, I just rocked the Domino's hard.
I love me some Little Caesars because they have that garlic bread or garlic butter that they put on everything.
But that's cheating.
Garlic butter is cheating for food.
Domino's, I lived right next to a Dominoes and i lived off that shit yeah right it is so good
it's made to order their app is actually probably one of the best for tracking the orders and
tracking when it's done and everything like that it was probably done on purpose a lot when i worked
there but there would be food all the time that was ordered not paid for and then nobody would pick up so if it was like our two hours later they go
out here's this box of 40 wings so here's this large whatever pizza so I
had so much Domino's in college okay so we still have to go for so you got one
so are you gonna go I like let's go Domino's pizzas or you can go pizza
types like it doesn't matter okay supreme pizza would be on there that's the So I'd like, let's go Domino's pizzas or you can go pizza types.
Like it doesn't matter.
Okay.
Supreme pizza would be on there.
That's the, then obviously Hawaiian pizza.
People are crazy for saying it's, I mean, it's just something for people to say.
And I think people don't actually think it's that gross, but pineapple and ham on pizza is underrated agreed oh uh then
obviously any sort of pizza like if you get like a crazy pizza just with all the possible beats on
there that's hard to beat oh four that's three you got one more
ah i mean obviously you got classic cheese like i I really agree with what, what's his name from live large.
That's how you know if a P yeah.
If a pizza is good as if their cheese pizza is good.
So I can't believe I knew that.
Was I right?
Was that Nick?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
I'm getting better at this.
I remember people.
I remember people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you get a good cheese or pepperoni pizza,
absolutely.
Yeah, I agree with you there.
I'm a pepperoni and green olives guy.
I don't really...
Yeah, that's all I want.
Shawarma pizza is top tier, too.
I've only seen black olives on a pizza.
I've only seen black olives on a pizza.
Yeah.
I'm very curious.
So maybe, when I order pizza,
if it's just for me it's
going to be pepperoni cheese extra cheese and green olives with garlic dipping sauce every time
i like garlic dipping sauce but i guess i'm saying like it do you have the option for black and green
olives or it's just green olive okay i don't think i don't think i've seen a green olive on a pizza
ever hawaiian pizza is actually a canadian invention as well i like hawaiian i don't think I've seen a green olive on a pizza ever. Hawaiian pizza is actually a Canadian invention as well.
I like Hawaiian. I don't even care about
Hawaiian pizza. I just want pineapple
on any pizza is good. It doesn't have to be quote unquote
Hawaiian because I rather have pineapple and pepperoni
than pineapple and ham 100% of the time.
In my life, her favorite thing is
barbecue chicken pizza.
Instead of pizza sauce, she'll get barbecue
sauce and then she'll put fucking
pineapple on it.
And chicken.
I'm going to order three large, potentially extra large pizzas for my lift party Saturday.
I think we're going to go with, I like, they have a chicken sweet and sour.
It's freaking amazing.
That's the place we go to.
I love that.
We'll go with a uh a basic pepperoni and then i think stephanie suggested for
the third one we go with like a uh like a a white pizza for if someone wants like a veggie option
but not not like not like a pizza sauce with just cheese but an actual like all all white
that would be my good i'm excited for that it's weird that people like there's a cat it's really funny that there's
just a cat sitting there right now yeah that's a different cat he gets up he gets up and walks
away and there's a cat just sitting there like yeah it's happening i'm on the podcast
does have does have four cats so i'm surprised we have only seen the two so far
yeah so you do you have shawarma pizza at all where you're from?
I've heard of that.
I know the name.
I used to order it all the time.
And Morgan, she used to love it,
but lately it's kind of been against it.
It's hard to waste money on pizza
if only one person is's gonna like that style you
almost have to go with like no i'll eat it for days no that's the thing about pizza is like i
will eat it forever i brought home my do you ever get a bruschetta flatbread or bruschetta pizza
uh i've had bruschetta but not like as a oh bruschetta pizza or bruschetta flatbread is
top tier right it's and it stays around forever that's what i
had last night hey welcome back hey thank you uh so um yeah no we're not bringing that one up geez
sorry i gotta know what they said after how many how many cars How many cars are you down to now?
Multiple people have told me about your
extensive car project list. I don't know if these
are all cars you actively own,
or just things you've dabbled with and then
sent down the road.
Someone gave me a very detailed, like,
he's got an 81 Mustang, he's got a 90s Eagle
Talon, he's got a 90 Miata,
a 2007 GMC, etc.
etc. etc. and motorcycles galore so
are you rich and you own 30 vehicles or are you just flip-flopping cars every six months no
i have none of those cars or motorcycles anymore that was all when i was a kid and before i realized
like oh i kind of have to have money to pay for things so this isn't really sustainable having project cars and motorcycles.
Yeah.
So I only,
I only have just regular boring cars right now. Um,
just my car and my wife's car.
I,
I would love to get into cars again,
but I just,
I just,
all the cars I want are in like 20 years when it will be feasible for me to
afford it.
It's just,
they're going to be stupid or non-existent.
So I'm going to dive into something potentially,
um,
controversial despite all the things that I'm not talking about that shit.
Uh,
it is something I'm sure everybody wants to talk about.
Um,
so you've invested a lot of money in your cat with special needs.
Oh,
can we hear about what those special needs are and what it lot of money in your cat with special needs oh can we hear about
what those special needs are and what it means to invest in that cat so um all my cats have been
like free off the street cats like i i just i'll philosophy like if you know and some people don't
like this like i i think cats should be out there roaming free.
That's what they really want to do.
I know some people have a hard problem with that.
Fair enough.
I get it.
But like when a cat comes up to you and it's like all skinny, like they usually don't come up to people.
Like if they're these feral cats, unless like they need something, they're like, and then you could tell like if they're super skinny.
So all my cats have been from the cat distribution
system. I was going to bring up that
exact sentence, the cat distribution system.
Yeah, but our very
first cat, because I grew up having
dogs only.
So
this was outside of my wife's
apartment, but there was just
this little cat and it was all
like his eyes and nose was all like his eyes
and nose was all covered up
with I mean mucus
and he was definitely runty
like I think he was just abandoned by his mom
and
so took him
in got him to the vet
got him better
and healthy but he has this
like chronic respiratory infection and a cleft palate
and it's still like seven eight pounds he's a tiny cat so he's always sick like well we're
always taken to the er things like that so we just dropped a bunch of money into like a free cat but
i just i mean yeah they're not gonna like
live as long as a human
or anything
but like
I mean they're worth it
you know
their life's worth it
so I just
you know
I'm gonna dump money
into them so
absolutely
what's the alternative
I'm not
yeah I'm not gonna kill it
you know
exactly
like there's
there's no alternative
that's
that's my cat now
he chose me
yeah
is that
was that cat
in the video there?
I've seen three cats so far.
There's one behind you on the bench, the one that was on your lap,
and then another one ran away.
He's the little black one.
I'm trying to see if...
So he hasn't shown up yet.
He hasn't shown up yet.
Now, cats are a big thing on this podcast, apparently.
Yeah, and I typically don't tell people I have four cats
because that's like kind of like
crazy people like i'm like dang i just tell people like i have cats a lot of fucking cats
it is dude it is that's toxoplasmosis waiting to happen dude automatic glitter boxes i was gonna
i was just gonna ask like because i've been trying to get my wife to get one of those and like like
she won't get on board with it at the moment moment not even a money thing i just don't think she thinks they
work and i'm like dude like that would make our life so much better because our cats literally
i don't know they're having i don't know if yours or anything like mine they disturb each other when
they're shitting so then they fucking run out of the litter box too early in their long hair cats
you know i've had the most disgusting nights for like 11 12 o'clock in the morning
stephanie wakes me up and says we have to cut shit out of the cat's ass right now and i'm just
like she's like i'm like holding the cat up like presented it's like underside and she's going in
there and like chopping fucking but we actually we have an appointment to get them their asses
and the back of their tails groomed up a little bit and then hopefully down there we can just be
like all right what do you consider a trimmer you can recommend we can get off Amazon,
and just buzz them once a month
with really long guards so we're not hurting them
or anything? How many boxes do you have?
Oh.
So we went...
How many boxes do you have? There's two, but
they like the same. There's one big one and one
little one, but there's just
the room that it's in, it's like
their playroom, so they're always fucking in it together and they're just they're i i learned um unfortunately learned after
a while the secret to that kind of thing right because we had two boxes and my cat just wouldn't
use the one and the other cat would disturb her when i was living with my roommate uh also learned
that um having their food next to their water
is also, yeah, that's not smart either.
So if you're a cat owner
and you realize that your cat's not drinking enough water,
it's because water next to the food bothers the cat
because food contaminates water.
So they don't know that they're in separate bowls, right?
So, I don't know.
Yes.
So we went down from like four stainless steel litter boxes.
If your wife doesn't want to move away from a litter box for sure, get like a stainless steel ones.
I don't know if you have plastic.
Yeah, we have a plastic one.
The stainless steel sounds intriguing.
I bought like, so you can buy it for like $100 if they market as like a cat litter box.
Or you could buy like the food serving like deep and wide stainless steel pans we went from four
and like cleaning them out two three times a day to one automatic litter box changing it like the
bag out once a day and it is a hundred percent worth it like every single penny i am so sad i
didn't do it earlier yeah i'll have you send me the specific
link to that one and then I can start compiling a list
to try to convince Stephanie into
upgrading our...
Because I hate scooping shit.
And I don't do it as often
as she wants me to.
She minimally does it four or five times a day.
I'll do it once at best.
Yeah.
It's a chore. you literally have to stay
up on it otherwise like it'll just get so disgusting that's like the biggest downside of
cats is i you know pooping in a box inside your house but whereas our our our late cat gus was
indoor outdoor and for the past like six years of his life he never shit in the house or pissed in
the house once i don't think like think. He would go out into the
winter, dig a hole and shit.
It was the best thing ever.
We don't have that with the kittens. They're never going outside.
Yeah.
When we just had the one cat,
we trained him to use
the toilet.
Our second cat, he was too old
to try and learn it. Dude, it was amazing.
You just hop up on
the toilet like you get a little like he would not stressed out but he would like cry really loud
and like then he would hop up there and finally do it but the other cat just could not get it
down so maybe that's why you you know what was your did your cats hate the bath mats too and you know probably yeah stuff yeah okay so um tell me where the name
toughy comes from oh my gosh oh i don't know what you thought you were getting into you look like
you weren't expecting that one i don't even know if that there's no way my wife could have i know no no don't give
away our secrets don't give us okay so that came from my mother growing up as a kid i was just
the biggest chicken like i was scared of everything like i remember there was this
uh what's the it's not nancy drew but it's the uh like the boy version drew, but it's the, uh, like the boy version of Nancy drew. It's like the, uh,
Hardy boys.
Yeah.
And there was a picture,
there was a book with a picture of a wolf on the cover.
And I was so scared to like move it and touch it.
And I was like,
so I was just the biggest chicken growing up as a kid.
I probably still am now.
Like,
you know,
but that's,
it was like a making fun of me almost in a loving way.
Can't wait to have
Gino introduce you as
Tuffy.
We can slide that into Gino.
I need to
keep a spreadsheet of everyone's nicknames
we've acquired because it's been a lot
and I only remember half of them, I think.
I try to pull one out every now and then just to be like,
remember when we called you that?
Good stuff.
Well, I'm having fun.
Let's see.
It's not fun unless you announce it, according to the data.
Shut up!
Guys, I'm having so much fun.
That's like Midwestern speak for, like, this is nice.
It's my time to go you know so the the phrase workout supplements is coming up like two or three times
um like what what are you taking what do you hate because you know what i like just as a preface
i was talking to somebody about my my creatine and b beta alanine in my coffee and somebody was. And somebody was like, well, you got to take BCAs.
And I was like, oh, no, those are garbage.
I'm not going to take those.
They don't do anything.
So, like, what are you taking to be as fucking strong as you are?
A CPAP, dude.
I get that one a lot, dude.
But, no, seriously, the first top tier supplement, CPAP right there.
I like when I get congested and can't wear it.
Literally, I feel like a zombie throughout the day.
My lips are trash.
My body aches.
But CPAP up there, like that's number one.
And this actually came from stan efforting like even if you can't
get from a doctor like if i went used off somebody uh 100 recommend um kind of gross though uh but
i just i take creatine pretty infrequently and i have like a benz multivitamin i'm just trying
to think of who would say supplements i probably wasted so many so much money on supplements like back when i started out lifting and maybe that came from like a call they might
even be thinking pre-workout and shit too who knows or even just how much you don't like them
like you're also oh free to talk about that okay i i think a lot of supplements are scams i just
i don't rock the supplements except for uh build fast formula Formula. They are not a scam. That's the only one.
That's the only one that's good.
Friends of the podcast.
If you're going to buy any, buy from them.
Actually, I will say
I have been getting into white wine
and things like that, but
I've been mainly a black coffee kind of guy.
I mean, uh...
I fucking hate coffee.
Oh yeah, you do. You're missing out sir i've had i've
drinking drinking i have i have consumed like at least a few pots of coffee in my day it's just
not it not uh you know on my top of the things i'd like to do uh so i hear you're a big audiobook
fan is that um where you like self-help or you fiction like
me what do you uh what kind of books you consume i've always been a fan of audiobooks like that
was a treat for me as a kid like i had a like a cd player that i was allowed to listen like 30
minutes of an audio book before bed but now it's all it's always been like uh fiction it's kind of
hard to listen to non-fiction and audio i can't do it yeah i like what what
genre though like sci-fi fantasy action adventure mystery a lot of sci-fi right now nice right now
reading quote unquote uh the forever war um but i i just finished up like The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Robert Heinlein
but yeah
I consider it reading
people want to get on their high horse and say that audiobooks
isn't reading they can eat a big old bag of dicks
I don't know man
especially too
I haven't held a actual paperback book in probably
fuck 10 years maybe
but I still read.
I consume at minimum 10 books a year via audiobooks.
I think the most books I've gotten, I think all my good reads.
There was a year I had 40 or 50 books or something, but the last 10 years, I probably averaged 10-ish, so a book a month, give or take.
But yeah, audiobooks are great.
If anyone has a problem with audiobooks, you must have a lot of time on your hands to actually physically read
books.
I don't think they're the same thing. I'm sorry.
I don't say...
Hold on. I'm creating a story in my
head as I'm listening to it on either way.
No, and that's fine. So here's
just a quick question.
Is typing
on a computer the same
as writing cursive?
What if I'm using
cursive font?
They're not
the same thing. They have the same outcome.
Your words are ending up
somewhere. They're coming from your brain and putting it up.
But you're not using the same muscles, the same
brain, the same thing.
Now,
my argument is there's no hierarchy one isn't better than the
other that's would be my argument i just don't think they're the same thing if i read arnold's
book or i listen to arnold's book i have consumed arnold's book but the difference is i'm not using the same brain parts of my brain
fuck the davids are gonna call me over this hard i'm not but i'm just saying like ultimately the
result is the same thing you are absorbing the information but you're absorbing in a different
way and i think that again i just as long as we don't look at them in a hierarchy i don't i don't
think they're the same thing but they're not one's not better than the other that would be my argument there between audiobooks and
reading book and i i'd say that's fair but i don't think anyone that listens to audiobooks say that
reading isn't as good it's it's the book readers that say that audio aren't as good um i'm a i'm
like i'm like the stereotypical meme of like the husband that reads too slow and And the wife, like, you know, the wife says, here, read this.
It's funny.
And like, it takes him three minutes to get the meme.
And she's like, like, that's me.
Like, I am the slowest fucking reader in the world.
So for me to get through a thousand page book would take a year when I can consume it like two hours a day when I'm driving to work and back and be done in like a week.
No, but and you've gotten the information and that's that's fine.
I just wouldn't say
that they are the same thing.
I think that they are
different things
of an equal value.
Yeah.
I like to multitask
when I'm listening to books
and podcasts and too,
like I'll play video games
and listen to an audio book.
So I'm like two birds,
one stone.
Oh fuck,
I won't do that.
No, that's,
that's out of,
that's out of pocket for me.
I actually don't listen
to audio books at all.
Well then you can't,
you can't have an opinion about it then. Yeah. pocket for me. I actually don't listen to audiobooks at all. Well, then you can't have an opinion about it, then.
Fucking watch me.
The people listening will hear you.
I will say this is where I differ from you, though, Keith. I feel the need, though, to still have the physical book.
So I'll read, listen to an audiobook, and I'll end up buying the book and then just you know i just
because i like i like to have a physical book as well i i when i was your age probably i i had an
obsession with every book that i read i did keep and then i would even like sign the back of it
and like date when i read it and i was like very obsessed with that but then i got to the point
where like i got too much shit in my house and I've got 300 books. No.
That's why I don't buy CDs
anymore. Or records. Yeah.
I don't have the fucking room. That's ridiculous.
But I think if we
were trying to keep this to a two, we got to jump into
some unpaid boys. Sorry.
No, I've got
three hours, but I can. I got one more
I want to do one. No, actually, I'll
add that to unpaid and underrated. Stand by. We can go three hours, but I can not. I got one more I want to do. One more. No, actually, I'll add that to unpaid and underrated.
Stand by.
We can go unpaid long.
So, Big Matthias.
Oh, you fucker.
I love you.
What did you do?
I'll do.
Do you want us to walk it through?
Okay.
So, he just.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Well, we can save that for a guest who has to post a question or something.
All right.
So, unpaid or underrated.
Anyone listening?
Any of Matthias' friends and family listening to this for the first time? We play a game called unpaid or underrated, anyone listening? Any of Matthias' friends and family listening to this for the first time?
We play a game called Unpaid or Underrated.
It's similar to Overrated and Underrated, but, you know, better.
So underrated obviously means it's great,
and unpaid sucks because no one wants to be unpaid.
So Matthias, I didn't even look at my list yet,
so number one for unpaid or underrated, I want to go with, ooh, wispy mustaches.
They are severely underrated.
Jeez.
There you go.
Sorry.
I know it in my head, but it's just hard getting it out there.
My wife absolutely hates this, and I look awful.
I look like I'm 14 with it.
And obviously, like, it's like this prepubescent nothing.
But it's as thick as it comes in.
Yes.
And this is like six months of growing.
And what I do, like when I when I start prepping for a meet, I'll start growing it out.
But I even get comments from strangers.
And there's this guy at Casey's gas station.
Never met him before.
I walk in and he says, you got to shave that mustache.
You look like a chomo.
And I didn't know what a chomo was.
I thought it was like a cholo, like Mexican.
Yeah, I thought cholo immediately.
Yeah, I was like, thanks, bro.
I'm not Mexican, but respect.
That means child molester.
I told bro,
thank you.
I might hit somebody for saying that.
Jesus Christ.
There's a complete stranger who just
out of nowhere calls me
a fucking molester.
I've never heard that in my life,
thankfully.
That's hysterical.
Underrated.
Unpaid or underrated,
let's go with running your CPAP dry.
And what the fuck does that mean?
Because I don't think you have water in your CPAP, do you?
So, CPAPs,
at least to my knowledge,
have two parts.
Like you could run it with a just dry, no water, or you can run it with water so that the air coming in is like humid and doesn't make your throat dry.
Yeah, moist, exactly.
Moist throat.
So that would improve the mouthfeel?
Exactly.
Moist would make the mouthfeel a lot better.
A moist ash.
Yeah, a moist ash.
Actually, this really ruins the seal on the CPAP.
Yeah, it would.
It would.
But if you run it with water, for sure, like, this is also probably disgusting.
I'd like clean this thing like once a week.
But if you run it with water, it smells so bad. So I'm just like,
no water, like just rock
it with no water. So it's definitely
underrated because who wants to
have their CPAP
more than once a week
or less if you're me.
Underrated.
So I'll go with my last one
here. Let's go unpaid or underrated organic So I'll go with my last one here.
Let's go unpaid or underrated organic foods.
I don't know.
It was on there.
Organic food.
I didn't make the list.
I'm just reading family and friends.
It's probably unpaid because a lot of things like labeled as organic, you know, it's like there's no real big difference than the other products, except for it costs $5 more.
But in some cases, sure, underrated. But I think overall, this guy's of organic.
I love McDonald's.
Unpaid.
Good deal.
I got a friend that uh owns a farm okay and she goes to farmers markets and sells her food and she will tell you nope i don't treat it with anything
uh it's it's grown in you know cow manure and soil i can show you the farm it's down the street from you okay call that organic
i'm in uh grown in china in a greenhouse and shipped over and labeled organic now fuck that
yeah and then and it's an extra three dollars or whatever like no i'm not yeah i'm not buying into
that program yeah i i rock with that all the day all All day, like local farms, 100%. That's underrated. But things with this just organic label, nah.
Yeah, certified USDA organic, grown in China. No, I'm not buying into that.
All right, so I guess I have to ask this one. Unpaid or underrated iphones i know you guys have a strong feeling about this but they're
severely overrated um i'm i'm a hard-standing android user so as keith probably saw from my
green text to here black green text bro it's all a social thing like i'm kidding yeah i know but there's no way i'm paying like 1200 bucks for
that's just crazy and like the things you can do with android's like you know running your own
operating system uh like can't do that on an iphone but so underrated for sure price and
usability features that i don't really use so it's mainly
price he meant to say
unpaid oh my gosh
so part
of what I was seeing was that like you have
an issue with the privacy
and I'm not going to talk about work here
but I am I'm fairly
into the iPhone privacy
world and how
how stringent they are in privacy and it's interesting that
you don't trust that so yes they are uh like it's pretty like to my knowledge like pretty
safe from hacking not sharing a lot of of your information with you know uh government bodies, but I believe what they take for their own data and use for their own metrics
is more than...
Okay, here. I guess I'll just get into the whole thing.
So I ran a custom
OS called... Well, I started with
Calix OS, and it's kind of like privacy and then i moved to uh graphene
os so i have a google pixel i just recently actually you want to know how i got into this
it is actually massonomics so there is a a backlog episode where oh and this is also the problem of like being a young mind late at night like being just completely
hammered like listening to not hammered hammered drunk but like just hammered with content from
massonomics like they could have like centurion or manchurian candidate whatever manchurian
candidate me man i like it manchurian there you go Manchurian candidate of me, but Tommy was talking about,
uh,
using DuckDuckGo,
and I had,
like,
no idea.
There you go.
And,
like,
I,
I had this whole,
like,
oh my gosh,
I'm a product,
like,
moment,
like,
at,
like,
1am,
and,
since then,
like,
I've been,
you know,
uh, like, privacy-minded, like, about, a.m. and since then I've been privacy minded about
even just the
whoever made the film using my data.
If they want to give me a cut, I'm all in
for it.
I'm going to let you in on a small secret.
There's two things I can bring up here. One I'm allowed to bring up and the other one I'm just going to let you in on a small secret. Yes. And it's not, it's,
there's two things I can bring up here.
One I'm allowed to bring up.
And the other one I'm just going to,
is a quick elevator thing.
Apple randomizes every single thing you do.
So if your information is being shared and you're allowed to opt out of it,
it is randomized. So nobody can go in and find matthias in the apple
servers it's a series of numbers that has changed every half an hour the other one is if the product
is free you are the product yeah so any operating system that includes meta specifically meta which
is facebook instagram whatsapp and we just learned they sold all of our information to Netflix to track what we're watching.
You are the product.
So I kind of see you on that one, but also knowing what I know about Apple after being
flown to San Francisco, meeting with the lawyers and hearing about their privacy settings.
I think they're actually, they run an encryption higher than most banking apps.
Yeah.
I,
I,
I,
but I'm not here to change your mind.
I just think it's just one of those things that like having a,
a backend,
um,
training on some of this stuff.
Yeah.
Uh,
but at the same time,
like,
yeah,
if I also am like,
don't track me,
fucking leave me alone.
But that doesn't mean I'm not getting ads.
It just means I'm not getting ads that track me.
Target or target.
I'm still getting those ads.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially on Facebook and Instagram.
Even when you tell Apple, don't let Facebook track me, Facebook's fucking tracking you.
And that was the nice thing about that Graphene os is that you truly could go in and like
and i know that has there's that feature on iphones but like i mean and this is all i don't
have any data to back it up it's all just feeling like you go into the settings and turn off
permissions to that and i think that's kind of a newer feature on iphones but like i've had it for
a while but yeah so i totally hear you and then like but i
also love the pixel i'm not going to complain i think when i was an apple user or when i was an
android user the number one phone i ever owned was a huawei uh sorry uh but it was it was the huawei
um the the 6p so Before Pixel was Pixel,
they had their own Android
that they outsourced. They had their own
phones and it was definitely
that Huawei 6P.
Gigantic phone, best camera.
I still look at the pictures from that camera and
my mind is blown.
I'm not here to tell you you're wrong or anything.
No, no.
I'm definitely not as
educated in this as i probably should be for someone who was so willing to automatically
like oh yes i'm in i'm so your line is not drawn in the sand i think it's drawn in concrete
yeah i definitely uh i hear you on that one but i also as, as an Apple user, I'm not going to pretend Apple doesn't pay some of my bills,
so I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm unbiased.
Oh, it's my turn to ask questions.
Yeah, I'm going to have to quick hit these.
We're trying to keep that time.
Sorry, guys.
I don't care.
We can go 2 and 45.
I just want to say, let's aim for 2.
Yeah, no, I was late to the intro, so I assumed you guys had, like, someone had a hard out, so that's why I was trying to say like, let's aim for two. Yeah, no, I, I, I, I was late to the intro.
So I assumed you guys had like, someone had a hard out.
So that's why I was trying to keep it to us, but let's just do two, but like, let's do a loose two.
No, we're good.
Uh, all right.
So I was going to make a, uh, nevermind.
Don't unpaid or underrated.
Cut off lift shorts.
Oh my goodness. As a man with femurs who are a foot long,
you have to cut the shorts.
Otherwise, it looks like I'm wearing pants.
I have the lift shorts 2.0 and they're cut.
I saw that.
I had them and I wouldn't wear them for the longest time
because they're just so long on me. I was like, I want to wear them. It's pointless. I'm going to cut them. It was really hard for me to cut them.
Because I'm still financing those things. I had to take out a second mortgage.
As long as it's not the yellow or the green.
Yeah, true.
You cut those, you're in trouble.
Yeah.
Unpaid or underrated fitness influencers?
Gosh, this is from my wife.
If I think I know who she's talking about,
I dislike fitness influencers so, so much.
I just, it's the gym, dude. it's not like you're doing this amazing like it's literally a
hobby and that's why like people who just get too caught up on like i am like morally superior
better than you because i go to the gym like it it's stupid like it's it's like i Like it's, it's like, I don't know.
I can't articulate it well,
but it's stupid.
I hate all fitness influencers.
And that being said,
now that like,
I can lie,
I have an okay following for like something kind of fitness related.
So that makes me a fitness influencer.
I don't know.
Do I hate myself?
Yes.
But yeah,
I hope I'm not a fitness influencer. I a fitness influencer i'm just a home gym influencer
i think i'm safe from the the wrath that is you that's what i like about uh the the mike van wick
stuff right the anti-influencer influencer you could mike van wick is a bodybuilder from up here
in canada i think he's actually originally from rh Rhode Island, but he's pretty anti-influencer as well.
But he's also a YouTube star and has thousands of followers.
I appreciate that the way I word it when somebody calls me an influencer
is, okay, so I might have a small following
and people might see me lifting and go, you know what?
I think I want to go get in the gym too.
And that's fantastic.
And they'll go, what products do you use?
And they'll use my codes.
That's fucking great too.
But you're not going to see me filming fucking dance videos or a tripod in the gym.
You're not going to see me like bothering other humans in their lives in order to further my own content
you're never going to see that i'm not going to make videos where i tear down somebody i'm not
going to i'm not going to do that i'm going to do me and if that resonates with you i'm fucking in
and i'm happy it resonates with you if that that happens to gain me followers, if that happens to get fucking sales to my friends,
like I don't make,
I don't have,
I have one commissionable code and it's never been used.
Right.
The rest are right.
Which one is it?
Lift hard,
be kind.
Okay.
Yeah.
The Mitchell Hooper company.
But like at the same time,
like if you're liking what I'm doing follow me great let's
talk you're just not gonna see me do that influencer bullshit where i'm like mad at people
for walking in front of my camera i'm not videotaping every part of my life i'm not doing
vlogs of me walking on the beach and shit like that like Like I'm not going to do that. So I'm with you on that one.
And I guess I also have like a bigger problem with like,
like bodybuilding influencers,
just cause I mean,
how edited things can be.
And then I,
I seen like,
not like friends,
but like people who I go to the gym with,
who have definitely been influenced by people who are on like gear to hop on
gear.
And like, they're young in the gym, either young people in general by people who are on gear to hop on gear. And like,
they're young in the gym,
either young people in general.
And I just think like,
they've,
you know,
I,
your body do whatever you want,
but like,
you've definitely made a bad,
like choice by hopping on to here.
Like when you're 18,
20,
you know,
just because you want to look like this 1% genetic.
Freaks who also photoshop his photos.
So I just, it's It's like, what did
Mike Isabel say about Sam Sulak?
You're already made of rubber and magic.
You don't need gear, man. You're
20 years old and you have nothing to do but
hit the gym. Fucking do that.
You don't need gear.
And the same with the people
that are like, well, Chris Bumstead does this. I'm going to
do this. And it's like, you're not Chris Bumstead.
You're not.
You know, you see Paul or Dwyer, you're not going to do that.
You're just get over it and just like fucking lift and have fun.
So, yeah, the hyper serious influencers and everybody, like I said, they joke that me and Keith are influencers or whatever.
like I said, they joke that me and Keith are influencers or whatever.
It's not like
it is a running joke, but
I do like to think we're not
that kind of influencer. We're not
bothering people. We don't have a fucking
t-shirt that you can go buy.
You're not buying unpaid and underrated
t-shirts. That would be stupid.
I would though.
We're not going to put that out there
anytime soon.
Someday maybe, but it's not work we're not going to put that out there anytime soon. Someday,
someday,
maybe,
but it's not work.
We're going to put it anytime soon.
So yeah,
I just wanted to get that.
I was hoping you would drop names.
Last one.
I can.
Actually,
there was one lady today that her entire thing is she makes fun of
influencers and she makes fun of influencers
and she's kind of funny but then like she's out there also doing that shit like she's out in the
mall making stupid videos to make fun of influencers but then the people in the mall are
like why are you here like we're just trying to shop get out of our fucking way and then it's like
but now you're you're that yeah you know who I'm talking about. I think I do.
But speaking of that,
someone else who I hate and they brought it up on the sister podcast is,
you know,
that 40 year old guy.
I hate that guy's videos.
The,
Oh,
no way.
Oh no.
I love that guy.
I did that today.
I did that today.
I saw one of his videos and I was like,
what? No way. And I went and tried to
take apart my microwave.
Yeah, you don't like that guy?
I find him really funny.
I think I followed him briefly
and just like, it got, I don't know.
It's the same thing over and over again.
I had too much of a backlog, so I just always saw the content.
I was like, alright, let me see this once a month,
not once a day.
It's like the five minute craft people to like,
those things drive me insane.
And it's all just for like views and like,
I mean,
like farming and stuff like that to get paid.
And it's just,
you know,
no,
I get that.
I totally get that.
Okay.
Last but not least unpaid or underrated stripping.
Trip it. High school football games. Apparently. Okay, last but not least, unpaid or underrated stripping? Stripping.
High school football games, apparently.
Oh, frick, maybe I did do that.
Bro, if I had a time machine, I would go back in time.
I heard you did.
That's maybe...
Somebody might have been really built in high school,
and maybe some people gave him some money to take off his clothes.
Gosh.
Yeah, that definitely was me.
I can't even deny it.
No judgment here, man.
And after I just ragged on fitness employers for things like that.
That's not the same thing.
Yeah, I don't know.
That is overrated or unpaid. Oh, I don't know. I bet it's
unpaid.
Oh man, you've got that wrong every single time.
I've listened to every episode.
I'm sorry.
You hear a lot of things, but you never speak it.
I fuck up shit all the time, man.
Unpaid.
No judgment here. We've had some
people who have done the same thing
on our podcast.
I butcher it regularly.
So stripping is unpaid?
Unpaid for me, it's embarrassing.
I don't know.
No way.
This is a good question, though, because someone made fun of this made fun of me for this recently.
It's like,
do you guys know what the sitting in gum trick is?
Like with your buddies?
No.
It's like a douchey thing to do.
No, no, like people, if you're wearing shorts,
a little bit of your sack out, and like,
oh, I sagged gum.
No, what? That's not funny?
No, it's like the goat, goat right like the goat and the bat from yeah yeah trick people into looking at your balls is that funny or not
absolutely thank you thank you absolutely so you so one time we went to our friend's apartment
in you know a little bit far away.
And we used to have this thing where we would,
if somebody fell asleep too early at a party, we would take their phone and we would take pictures of things and we would
make it their background. Yeah.
And she was like, you're not going to fucking do that to me.
I'm going to lock every device in the house.
But then she got drunk and unlocked every device in the house and fell asleep and she woke up to five of
us doing the goat we got her with the goat not even the bat we got the goat nice yeah i uh my
go-to all the time like if you're with your bros and like you're all going to the
bathroom like beat them in there and like drop your pants at the urinal so you're just mooning
them that's undefeated right there like it's it's like it's not funny if they're not in on it
like you can't just do that to a stranger but like if everybody like yeah if
everybody's kind of in the friend group and they
know that this could happen
you don't want to non you don't want to
unconsensually show people your genitals that's
fucking weird yeah but like if you're
like by the way if you fall asleep you're gonna wake up
with our balls on your phone and they're like well I'm not gonna
fall asleep and then they fall asleep like it's
yeah
I would like to come away from the lift
hardly be easy without seeing any like dick or balls though like that uh it is unlikely you will
because we're all a lot older and more mature now most of us at least all right well i think
you passed on payton underrated good tell me about your background tell me no i want to hear
about this background okay okay describe this name to us so we've got um pull it up so i can read it as well uh so we've got here we've got
uh keith honeycutt versus a honeywell thermostat
so program you've got uh at strength by science for keith and then program for the Honeywell thermostat is a seven day programmable temps
fan
Scott Dodds for Keith Honeycutt
Scott Dodds isn't his fan
yeah and then it's just yes
for the thermostat
modes
power lifting strong man and then
you got modes heat cool and off
and then color orange and
white so that's amazing send those to us we'll make sure we'll put Then you've got modes, heat, cool, and off. Then the color, orange and white.
That's amazing.
Send those to us.
We'll make sure we'll put them up there on our Instas.
I will.
Good work.
You know, I literally put those in for a living some days.
Really?
Yeah.
I do light electrical work at my job a lot of times.
I either do fixture replacements or we do thermostats for energy efficiency as well. So all next week I'm putting in not,
it's not,
we used to do Honeywells.
I don't,
I don't do the Honeywell braiding for one,
but yes,
I've,
I've put thousands of Honeywell thermostats in at my job in the past.
So that is extra fucking hysterical to me.
I will actually send that to my boss as well.
I,
my,
my work phone is shut off until Monday morning.
So I'll send it to a Monday cause I'm not turning it on. Unpaid or underrated, shutting your work phone is shut off until Monday morning so I'll set it to a Monday
because I'm not turning it on
unpaid or underrated shutting your work phone off
fucking the most
oh yeah top tier
it's S tier
I
go ahead sorry
I do it every Friday when I get out or like today
like 3.01 I shut my phone off
see I do not have a work phone
they have my personal number like i got a text right here about work right now so no uh no way
actually i got one from work while we were chatting and i was just like go away like
i have a work phone and i have my personal phone and i i get one day a. I get a solid 24 hours where I get to go.
I will not respond to anything.
As a manager, I can't fully check out.
Like it's just,
it's like they,
them performing makes me money.
So like I kind of have to be even there when I'm not,
but I get one day a week
where I just go, nope,
I'm off, go away.
All right.
What's the next step there, Keith?
So it's our favorite topic here, our favorite segment.
That's where we handed a range over to the guest
and see what Matthias has for us.
Heck yeah.
I'm optimistic it's going to be awesome
since we've already gotten two fucking dope memes that I...
Oh.
Don't forget to text them.
Awesome.
Yeah. All right. dope memes that I... Don't forget to text them. I'll send it to you.
Alright.
So this might fall flat on its face because I kind of forgot that
Joey hasn't listened to the backlog.
But I kind of put together a little
massonomics... I forgot half of it.
Oh.
I picked out some of my favorite
like...
I guess you could call this trivia, I guess, about some of my favorite, like, uh, I guess you can call this like trivia,
I guess about the,
some of the backlog.
Um,
so I don't know.
It's,
it's a,
I'll just read it.
It's a fun one.
We'll do it live.
Okay.
Okay.
There we go.
Um,
so first question here,
what was the search query in mass and omics is shop.
Um,
and I'll,
I'll read you some of these things,
uh,
fit babes,
Big Hunk, Nude Woman
Lifter, or All the Above.
I'm not sure.
That was like, well, I don't remember.
I don't know. I'm stumped.
I'm assuming all...
I don't know. I want to say All the Above,
but probably just the one with the hunk.
It's All the above nice
that's uh episode 79 for reference that's just that's like an soc thing or or i don't i'm trying
to so like if you go to their web page like they i guess tommy has like the access to see what
people have searched up so i guess you go in there search something weird okay that makes i gotcha i wouldn't i guess i didn't understand the question as it was
that makes more sorry yeah i guess this is just someone went and searched these things in their
shop no you're good that's oh i'm very should i be curious i'd like to see like like the printout
like a full like printout of like what's some weird shit people it's almost like i almost want to just go and search the weird actually yeah there we go so every like we're you know our 200 listeners
whatever right now when you're hearing this i want you to get off your phone and go type in
the weirdest fucking shit you can think of at massnomics.com and i want to see if like they
actually ever mention it and they'll be like you know I've gotten all these reports of like why are people searching donkey
dicks on mess exactly
who was the
first calling guest
Larry the Legend Shuck
Julius Maddox Donnie Thompson
or Mary Baird
Thompson
Mary was on the episode Mary was on
I think Mary was only on the fucking
the party cast
sorry so this is the first call in was on, I think Mary was only on the fucking, the party cast.
Oh, sorry.
So this is the first call in guest.
No, no, I know, I know.
Okay, okay.
I'll go with Julius.
So it's actually Larry the Legend Shuck.
Hell yeah.
There you go. Larry.
Larry.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I like, Larry was, anyone listen to this?
Like when you, you if you're uh
if you get a chance to talk to larry he's very he doesn't want to talk to people very much that
doesn't know it didn't seem like i had to like introduce myself and shot the shit with him a
little bit but uh he definitely um doesn't get the whole crew thing i don't think like he's very much
like like tanner and tommy's friend but i don't think he gets the whole like fucking how many of
us are out here that
are just like obsessed with that so they're they're like well the culture that we built so
larry's unique in that manner i got to put baby powder on him at the last and that's hardly easy
and i was like i'm not gonna touch you so like i had like dumping on his thighs and then i used
the bottom of the bottle to wipe it like i do on myself. Because I was like, I'm not going to touch people.
It's kind of crazy to think that he can exist like that, not be a shit at any of this side of Masonomics,
but there's all these people who know him and know, like, a backstory about him.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
It is very weird.
Like, so many Masonomics gym members are, like, so not into Masonomics at all.
It's just, it is goofy. I don at all it's just it is goofy i don't
get it but it's i don't know like would you listen to a pot like if i i kind of can see it though
because if like like none of my friends listen to my pod but none of my like non-crew friends
listen to this podcast if i had a podcast about the no wine cellar like no one would listen to
it that like trained in my gym like out of my 30 friends that come here somewhat regularly like
so i i can kind of get it like who's gonna listen to their buddy just randomly talk about shit that
they can have a conversation with them about so like i did it i actively tell people not to listen
to this podcast what's your podcast and i was like do you lift and they're like no and i was
like then don't like fucking listen to this podcast well i i try to springboard it into
them like well first listen like do you
listen to my son i'm like so yeah a few episodes like all right well get more into massonomics
join crew and then listen to my podcast if you don't if you don't do all those steps first like
stay away unless you know one of the guests okay all right third question here uh what was
tanner's suggestion for the recently deceased Rich Piana's Arnold booth?
Kai Greene takes it over.
Rich Piana has an open casket.
Give it to Masonomics or have Tyler take Synthol and pose as Rich Piana.
The Tyler one.
The Tyler thing, I would say.
It was Rich Piana's open casket at his booth.
That was my initial answer, but I was like, no way.
This is why I don't listen to the back catalog. I don't want to know this about my friends.
It used to be so much more ornery.
Tanner was so much more,
like, he was so much more ornery
back in the day. I loved it.
It is a different, like, it's two different,
it's different animals. Like, I've said it before,
like, you gotta look at it as
like, this is an era
that has come and gone. There's a middle era
that came and went and this is what we are now.
It's not who they are. It's just what
it was. It's all consumable
and enjoyable.
Very different.
What episode was the term
unpaid interns mentioned?
Holy fuck.
Episode 4.
Sorry, sorry. I was trying to get it.
No, go ahead. I might have been around on that one.
Episode 44,
episode 328, episode
315, or episode 224.
I'm going to say
224.
Probably one of the 300s.
I can't imagine it's the fucking 40 there's no way it
was the one and so i came in around 250 right that's when i started listening and it was around
then so i've it had to have been around by then the way he's the way his fucking look at that
look at him he's like fucking episode 44 he's like man you guys are. It had to be episode 44. He's like, man, you guys are wrong.
It had to be dropped in the very beginning.
It was episode 44.
Tyler mentions putting
unpaid interns on
making a new
intro.
Sorry, I have all this
useless knowledge.
I
pretty regularly
go back and listen to the backlog.
I was going to ask, do you just restart
the backlog every couple of weeks?
Because I've listened to every episode at least once
and then some of them, I will cherry pick
some of the backlog now.
It's just, yeah, it's hard
to repetitively do it multiple
times.
Yeah.
And I'll get into the mood where if I do go into the backlog, I just won't listen to new stuff.
I'm like, all right, I got to catch back up.
But the only episode I know I've only listened to once is the one where it's that CrossFit guy.
Julian fucking Pino.
Yes.
And it's...
It cares so little about that.
Yeah, and it's only him answering questions from like a CrossFit.
Like I love Tyler. Oh, love his other podcast,
the Spirits of the Reigning podcast, but that podcast episode, I'm like,
this is hard, but yeah.
What was the last state in the United States? Sorry, Joey,
to listen to the Mass Anomics podcast United States? Sorry, Joey, to listen to the mass economics podcast.
Was it Alaska,
Hawaii,
Rhode Island,
or Vermont?
I'll go with Vermont.
Oh,
fuck.
Which one's smaller?
Actually,
fuck.
I'm going to Rhode Island because I know my,
my,
my,
the main company is based out of Rhode Island.
And I know that you can literally drive from one side to the other in 45 minutes, so I'll go with Rhode Island.
Oh, no.
I don't have an answer for that one.
It is Vermont. You were right the first time.
Fuck, I was right the first time. God damn it.
Sorry.
Shred.
All right.
And then the last one I have here.
What was Tyler's, Tanner's, and Tommy's
first nicknames on the podcast? Since we're big fans of nicknames?
So here are your options.
The Beast, The Magic, or The Show.
And which one's a which?
Big Daddy Fat Sacks isn't on there.
I guess technically that should be on there.
You're right.
See, that's why you got to go back
and listen to the backlog.
Get things like that.
So, Tyler, Tommy, Tanner,
Beast, Magic, and Show?
Okay, so,
I'll go Tommy as Magic,
Tyler as
the Beast, and Tanner as the Show.
Yeah.
And I'm just using physical attributes for that.
I have no memory of like,
that's the worst thing.
How many,
what would,
didn't we come up with like the running minutes?
Like how many hours,
like thousands of running minutes or whatever.
I don't,
I didn't,
you know,
I'm not like Joey.
I didn't read the backlog.
I listened to it.
Fair enough.
Again,
it's so much differently. Again, I feel bad because I like
making trick questions.
They were all the beast.
Good deal.
Yeah, that tracks.
Yeah.
I wish I could
have had a
better memory of
man, there's just
so much talking
it's so hard to like
remember like all the small talk
like I gotta remember like certain
highlights and shit but it's hard to cherry pick
all that
alright now I actually have stuff related
to you guys
okay sorry I just had to get that out of the way
no and that was actually really fun
because like there's no way I would know fun. We're sorry we let you down.
Sorry we let you down there.
No, no.
It's unfair for me to cherry pick
things and be like, you guys should know this.
Oh, yeah.
I can see it in his eyes. He's judging us harshly.
Take these motherfuckers.
As well he should.
Alright, this one is for you
and I'll try and keep them short
because we are going over time here so
take all the time you want
this is an FMK for you Keith
FMK
Milwaukee, DeWalt, and Makeda
oh god I get this so much
like Chris
Mark asked me this the other day more or less
so FMK.
I'll kill Makita
because I don't really care about Makita.
I've used Makita once
when I was a teenager.
The construction company I worked for,
he had DeWalt drills
but he had a Makita
Impact. This was literally like 2003
when Impacts were new
or new-ish.
I have the least amount of experience with makita um mary or i i'm curious of how i answered this in the past but i will probably i'll fuck milwaukee and mary dewalt solely because i'm
already invested a thousand i've already have over a thousand dollars i have more than a thousand
dollars in dewalt and you know i even have like the shit, like my first DeWalt thing I probably got was almost 14 years ago.
And I'm still running the same 20-volt batteries and they're still good.
I've never had to, like some of them aren't as good as they used to be, but I don't, I haven't had to, I don't have any that like only last five minutes or anything.
Like the old style where it's like the stem battery?
Yeah, I don't have those.
No, no.
So I was like, I switched over. so like the old style where it's like the stem battery yeah i don't have those no no so i i have
those i switched over i switched over it was like was it because it was 20 volt max because they
went from 18 nicad 20 volt max in like 2008 9 10 era and like i bought like a 600 kit of the 20
volt max with like a bonus that i got at work deferred when i was doing property maintenance
and then i've just added on tools to that.
I just got a weed eater and a chainsaw and a blower on the last couple of years.
I still have like a,
suddenly you get like a pole saw and a hedge trimmer and shit.
Cause at this point I'm like,
I'm invested like so much in it,
but I use Milwaukee at work.
It's great,
but I'm not gonna,
if I could restart what I went with Milwaukee,
maybe,
but I don't know.
I think Milwaukee is seriously overrated,
but they're all like probably the same.
So it doesn't even.
Yeah.
This one's for you,
Joey.
Would you rather experience wrestling again for the first time?
Like watching it like all throughout your,
like,
you know,
or would you rather experiencing deadlift deadlifting for the first time?
Again,
like if you had to erase your memory and be like,
which would I rather experience the first time?
Which one?
Oh my God.
That's a real,
Morgan's going to call me out for this one.
Deadlifting probably would want to experience.
Yeah.
Because wrestling has been there since i was like four right the first wrestlemania was the year i was born and i go back to my you know my
grandpa's house who had no tv they had the rabbit ear antennas and we used to watch old tapes of wrestle manias that he had and
as much as deadlifting is my favorite thing in the world it didn't define or shape me since i
was a child right wrestling did wrestling was something i shared with my grandpa and
to my father to an extent and then you know so i would i would definitely say that
if i had to erase everything and start again it would be dead lifting because i would get to find
the joy again and not this not the struggles not the strength issues not the it's not linear
it's not always going to go up yeah But with wrestling, yeah, wrestling has just
been there. In fact, part of the
reason I'm so tired tonight is because I stayed up late
last night watching wrestling
documentaries
because I think that
that shaped more
of
who I was and grew up as
than deadlifting did because I didn't
find deadlifting until I was like 35
but I found wrestling at the age
of 4
right so good question though
fuck dude that was hard that was actually
really hard
and this is my own personal question
so I never
watch wrestling or anything but would it be
worth it to get into it now like with
modern day wrestling do you think it's worth it for someone it be worth it to get into it now, like with modern day wrestling? Do you think it's worth
it for someone like me to try and get into it
or not really?
Has wrestling as a sport changed too much
from when you were growing up
to now?
The crew's going to hate this.
Sorry, guys. Go ahead and
tune yourselves out.
It's a really good question.
I do think at some point I need to be on a wrestling podcast to talk
about this kind of shit.
Wrestling in the,
in the go back as far as the carnies,
right?
Like where wrestling was just an event you went to and they,
they did wrestling in front of you.
Wrestling is a show.
It always has been a show.
And then it was a TV show. And ultimately wrestling has always been the Goliaths. It's always been the, what do we replace that as? Like the old, the gladiators.
predetermined it's not fake you know you get you getting dropped over somebody's head and falling six feet isn't fake it hurts it sucks but it's predetermined it's a show so when you go and you
look at from the 80s where we call the golden era of wrestling the hulk hogan's, the Macho Man, the Ted DiBiase's, the Ric Flair's. Those guys figured out how to draw money from people by putting on a show.
And then it progressed into being a dance.
Wrestling today is a dance. And when somebody is really good at dancing, it's fun to watch.
One of the top wrestlers, in my opinion, is Randy Orton. Randy Orton has no single
unplanned move. And when he has an unplanned move, you can tell it didn't go the way he wanted.
He is, in my opinion,
every movement is that movement
that needs to be done at that exact second.
If you want to get into that kind of thing,
absolutely watch it.
There are some of the best people
that are into the business
and dance of wrestling going out there right now. These guys are doing spots. Spots are just
single moves that draw attention. These guys are doing things that nobody has ever done before.
If you love the idea of wrestling, this is the time to watch. If you love the idea of wrestling this is the time to watch if you love the idea of the big
goliath over the top gladiators you need to go back and watch the 90s and 80s okay right like
undertaker wouldn't fly right now there's no undertakers right now there's no darkness and
lights and wisdom peace there's none of that shit going right now because right now it There's no darkness and lights and wisdom and peace. There's none of that
shit going right now because right now
it's the dance.
I love that shit.
I think
if you can find somebody that
can do that move better than the guy
before them, that guy deserves
attention. But if you're
not into that idea,
then don't bother
so that would be the answer there
it would be really what you want to watch out of it
if you're an MMA fighter
and you like watching UFC
don't watch wrestling
it's not the same
and you will obviously
you're going to be the guy that sits there
and grumps around everybody
and you're like this is fake
this is fake this is fake and everybody's going to hate you
but mma is bigger than wrestling right now i still think right i still think mma is predetermined
i don't think ufc is as real as everybody says it is yeah i think it is a show i think it is
predetermined and i think you're all being worked especially because now political figures are
showing up yeah right like all of these big figures are showing up. Yeah. Right.
Like all of these big names are showing up and sitting in the crowd and getting more attention than the fighters.
Yeah.
That's a work.
That's same with football.
Any sport.
It's all.
Yeah.
It's all a work.
Right.
Like, so that would be my answer there.
I think that, no, if you don't want to, if you want to get into what we care about now in my forties.
No. If you want to get into what we care about now in my 40s, no.
But if you want to get into the new style of wrestling, absolutely get into wrestling. But know that you are watching two men or two women or a woman and a man dance.
That's what you're going to get into.
And it's going to be fucking entertaining.
And yeah, most people, Aaron tuned out
now.
Big mofos tuned out, the Davids are tuned out.
Stick a wrestling talk. More Star Wars
please.
That's a good answer.
Alright.
Yeah, buddy.
Alright, if you had to
have only one brand
in your gym, like
equipment brand, like all of your plates, barbells, rack had to be there, who would you pick?
Yeah, because I know you got several different, but if you had to only do one, who would you pick?
And why would it be Bells of Steel?
Yeah, of course, Bells of Steel.
I don't love Rogue and I don't love their business practices, I guess, but it'd be the easy answer because at least I know they got decent plates.
I know their racks are good.
I don't love their deadlift bars, garbage, off-loss.
Your bar sucks.
That's the one I use for this prep.
I don't know.
I think it'd have to be Rogue just for the convenience of I could could just like go spend 20 grand at rogue and get everything I need.
Um,
I mean,
I know everyone likes reps blowing up more,
but like I wouldn't be opposed to rep,
but I just,
I like to pride myself on being like a 99% American made gym.
And if I go rep,
then it's like a 0% American made gym.
Fair enough.
So,
but I think rep is right up there with quality for reps got the highest quality import shit.
Yeah.
And they're definitely a thousand times more innovative than what rogue has been putting out the last, you know, 10 years.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Unpaid or underrated at the pain clinic.
This is also for you again, Keith.
Man, I miss those guys. That's a, that's a, that that that's a that's a that's a good harken throwback um it was wow my
he'd say a wife so that's cool so i'm trying to whisper because i had to open my door so the cat
could get out of the spare room and now it won't leave and my wife's gonna be super pissed shortly
so i'm so sorry no no no it's on me um The pain clinic, that was a garage gym that one of my good buddies used to have.
I think technically it's still there, but it's like he doesn't really have a crowd of people coming anymore.
But that was very instrumental in motivating me to start a home gym because at the time I was LA Fitness commercial gym dude.
I was LA Fitness commercial gym dude.
We would go see a personal trainer at like a private studio just because it was a personal trainer that we had met at LA Fitness and kind of like would do sessions with and followed him to a couple other small boutique gyms as his like career progressed. And that's when I got into – they did like a mock powerlifting meet and he was friends with someone that helped put it on.
So he brought his deadlift bar and kind of ran the mock powerlifting meet for like the dozen of us.
And then I was like – I knew he had a home gym.
I was like, do you ever like have people come over and train?
And he's like, yeah.
I say, you know, we exchanged numbers and I went in the first time I pulled 405.
Was it like the first time I went and trained with him and stuff?
And then, you know, like once a week to once a month for like two or three years, I would go there to like supplement my gym training.
And then I got into, I think pretty much within the first year, I probably had started my very basic gym at that point and then i was like well that's awesome like i love the
idea of buddies come over and train with me so like i very much stole a lot of inspiration from
that uh i'm pretty sure currently they've like the two dudes that were like the the matriarchs
of that gym kind of falling out which i feel really bad because i'm kind of stuck in the
middle of like two people i consider friends that like won't talk to each other anymore.
And they're both like 60 year old grown men.
So it's very awkward.
And I'm like,
what the fuck guys like bury the hatchet already.
I mean,
if,
if,
if fucking Joey and Coop and Joey and,
you know,
the hatchet,
I think anybody should be able to.
Yeah,
for sure.
Joey has a huge problem with both of those dudes.
Who the fuck is Coop?
But extremely underrated in its heyday. And I
had a blast and met some really good homies that I'm
still friends with. Yeah.
All right. For you,
Joey. Unpaid or underrated?
Running in the snow in your underwear.
I don't know if you get that
reference.
Oh, I can name a hundred times I've
done it. Oh oh there you go
like
underrated
I think that there's a level
of get out there and
you know the internet says touch grass
but I think like if you live in the
north go touch snow
go outside
you're probably talking about a picture i took yeah it
was your very first picture on instagram yeah yeah that was my second instagram i had an instagram
before this one oh shoot i did not do my detective work oh no and you won't find that one
but definitely yeah go outside go sit in the go sit in the snow go out here where we are in this kind of range
of snow we get the shitty snow where it's cold and damp but if you live in like the western
end of this continent you're gonna get the cold and it's dry and i was talking to somebody today today that like minus 15 in ontario sucks minus 30 in alberta sucks less for some reason
so go outside get naked go sit in the snow go touch grass walk barefoot buy barefoot shoes
there you go do everything you can to just connect to the ground and to nature.
Because I posted this thing.
Actually,
it's funny.
You brought this up.
I posted this the other day.
While you're staring at your phone and you look aside and you see an ant or a
spider in your house and you get mad that they're there.
Remember your phone is the stranger.
The ant and the spider were meant to be there.
Accept nature.
Go outside.
Get wet.
Get dirty.
Take off your shoes.
Good question.
Episode title, Get Wet, Get Dirty.
No, that was actually a good question,
because it's been on top of my mind.
I don't want to wear shoes anymore. I'm going I just, I had, I don't want to wear shoes
anymore. I'm going to quit
my job so I don't have to wear shoes.
There you go. Get feral, as you like to say.
Remain feral.
I got a question. Go ahead.
Because I try to do a lot of Instagram.
Is there a better way
to actually scroll to someone's like early
content? Like, is it easier to do
it from a laptop because
like my thumb hurts fucking i'm like three minutes in and if you have like shitty data like you can't
just like infinite scroll you have to scroll let it refresh and scroll again it's like this is
fucking stupid i've got a thousand posts i couldn't get to my first post if i wanted to
yeah it'd take fucking eight minutes and it was honestly easier to get to even though joey has
more posts than you,
his are mainly photos while yours are videos.
So it took like twice as long to scroll for yours.
All right.
Yeah.
That'd be a way.
No,
it sucks.
All right.
There's got to be. Yeah.
There's probably some tech.
Somebody knows like,
Oh,
Nate.
Yeah.
Nate,
make a,
make,
make it,
make an app for that.
Yeah.
That's,
that's all I got.
Oh,
the only thing I did want to flex just cause I am proud of how low it is.
I have my,
my member card here.
Nice.
16.
Absolutely.
We forgot to ask that actually.
That's,
that's our bet on that one.
No,
I'm super confused. The route we went, I think we'll have to figure that, actually. That's our bet on that one. I'm super confused
about the route we went. I think we'll have to figure that out.
But yeah, that's
early. Good stuff.
That's awesome.
I want to know if anyone has...
I mean, obviously, Scott Dodds is still number one,
but I wonder if anyone else has dropped out
since then.
I think Tanner even mentioned that on an episode.
Joey, did someone mention... You mentioned that on an episode. Joy, did someone
mention, you mentioned that Tanner said
some people dropped out.
Yeah. Something in the fucking
Masonomics Unpaid world.
One of our guests.
Because I said there's no way I'll never
become 69 because I think
I was like 64 or some bullshit.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, that's a big deal.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Brad, he'd messaged me.
Moved up.
I don't remember.
But yes.
Okay, Brad.
Buying a Texas bar.
That was awesome.
I was so fucking proud of us.
Fucking influenced.
He's literally, he made me.
Like, he's almost, I'm going to bust his ball.
I want to jokingly say he's been over in belly.
He's been oversaturating his content.
Yeah,
he hasn't,
he's just making up for lost time.
Cause I don't think he posted for like six months.
And then now he's just like actually like posting his life,
which is what social media is for.
So I'm glad that you,
uh,
joined the real world,
Brad,
and you know,
join us all on Instagram.
Sorry,
your random shit.
It's been enjoyable.
Instagram is not the real world.
I know. Hey, question, Keith.
$450 Canadian for an Ohio deadlift bar.
Yes or no?
No, that's the worst deadlift bar in the world.
What's Canadian to US?
A little less.
We're 0.73 of the... 327. I assume, yeah, that's 300 and US. A little less. We're.73.
327.
I assume, yeah, that's $327.
$327, yeah.
I would...
No, because I've passed on buying that bar for like $250.
What brand was it?
Rogue.
Oh, Rogue.
Oh, yeah.
I have the best deadlift bar in the world.
I have a Texas deadlift bar, so I'm not that worried about it.
If it was a Rogelhau Power Bar for like $250, $200.
If it was a Kabuki bar.
I would say I would buy the Kabuki and then just resell that.
Because $320 for a Kabuki would be a pretty good deal.
I would get the Kabuki and own it and love it forever.
I hate the Rogelhau Deadlift Bar in the world.
I almost think the Kabuki is worse, but eh.
Yeah.
But worse, I mean, like, it's the stiffest and it's the shortest overall.
Fair enough.
Which, like, it's the most representative of a power bar.
Well, then fucking pull in a power bar.
Like, I don't know.
Like, the only thing you're getting out of it is the 27mm.
Other than that,
unless you put some extra collars on it, it's not competition spec.
Alright, should we bring this home,
fellas? Yes, bring it in for a landing.
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He's just never going to show up.
There's a dick joke there somewhere, probably.
What? We'll see you next Tuesday.