Unpaid And Underrated - 060 : Sadness is Delicious

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Cody. They dive right into great topics like the Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab, birds, coffee, strongman, Trader Joe's, and lifting with significant others. Links Things Mentioned on the Episode Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Keith Head Shortcut (https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/05904518c8fc44e1ac8bef507053f9f5) Colab Trailer (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8u1ZhrAeKD) Follow Miles from the video on Instragram (https://www.instagram.com/iammilesq) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @codythestrongest_birdwatcher (https://www.instagram.com/cody_the_strongest_birdwatcher/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Cody.

welcome back to episode six of the unpaid and underrated podcast we are a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith joined as always by big joey as always except like twice yeah yep i think that's right. And then special guest, Big Cody Hoffman, the birdwatcher man, correct? That's right. It's Cody, the strongest birdwatcher, if you're looking for me. That is right. Well, welcome to Unpaid and Underrated, my friend.

This is a big week for us, Joey. What's going on this week, man? Well, it was my kid' last day of school, and I got a few extra followers on Instagram. What are you talking about? Oh, you're talking about these old things? Yeah, you weren't wearing anything. I mean, you and I seldom have a matching shirt,

so what's going on with that? Yeah, we launched, well, we got launched our first shirt today. You know, we've had these homemade ones and a lot of the crew ones technically were us as well, right? Because the NWO style one crew was designed by none other than Malav. So those ones have been floating around. But then Massanomics came to us and said, hey, we're just going to do one for you. So that launched today. Cody, did you grab one?

I did. I think I was like the 10th one. I took a long lunch break, told everyone, just don't talk to me until I got my shirt. With a side of coffee, right? That's right. I like that. So this shirt, it's in a nice red it's um for those of you who are probably

listening to this you probably have received yours already but if you haven't it's a very soft shirt um i don't think they've done this blank before in this color but it is go ahead when i was talking to tanner he was asked we were kind of spitballing like blanks and stuff and i just kind of threw out well it really wasn't he just he he basically texted me one day. I was like, what do you think about, you know, us doing a Masonomics collab kind of, you know, we'll do a shirt for you guys, et cetera. And I was just, my, my, my initial reaction was like, that's awesome. But then I like, you know, got a jab in about making sure it's the right blank and all that. And then he actually like sincerely asked, well, what would I think? Well, at least it's hard to read through text, but I think he was sincerely asking what shirt to put it on. I think I told him the seven-year anniversary red shirt. Yeah, that's a good call. I thought it fit great. So I think, I don't know if this is the same blank or not.

I mean, still, it's a red comfortable shirt that fits great, so I'm happy with it. Yep, soft spun. I've washed it a few times. The back is a bit heavy on the screen printing, but just don't sweat in it and you'll be safe. But it's a good shirt. And don't forget you get your keith's head stickers those are floating around for a few weeks now too i'm not gonna take credit for that but i'm fairly certain that came from oh yeah for sure that was like we should also do the stickers and and tanner was like i'm just gonna do those like don't bother

and so um but if you are interested in an unpaid underrated sticker just make sure you're in And Tanner was like, I'm just going to do those. Like, don't bother. But if you are interested in an unpaid and underrated sticker, just make sure you're in Aberdeen. Come to Joey and I will have about 100 to hand out. So those aren't coming with your T-shirt, but you're getting a Keith Head sticker. And then come to Aberdeen, get the official podcast sticker. Guests will have already got those. Most of them. Yeah.

Yeah. Fair amount. Yeah. As long as jeff's uh you know up after his thing so just like um i gotta do a big shout out to tanner and tommy for designing these we had a small hand in the design um specifically the canada u.s thing oh yeah that was going to be established 2000 uh 23 and then we were yeah you think you you came you some was you or some small group chats one of us said make a us canada because you were nate i think i don't remember but so just a big thanks to these guys for doing this for us it's a it's a humbling thing because like

all i do is talk into a microphone once a week and now i've got people wearing our shirts and flying our banners and you know it's it is very humbling it is very incredible and uh just makes me even more excited to see everybody in about 28 days so yeah go buy our shirt um grab the new shirt while you're at it you're probably not going to get your hands on those slides if you don't have them by the time you're hearing this i grabbed a pair mostly just cause I thought it was funny. Um, but yeah, that's a big shout out to everybody that's joining in on that. Oh,

and Nate's video launched today too. Yes. Cody, did you watch that insane video? That was fantastic work. Yeah, that was a, that was not an unpaid and underrated original.

He had some help from one of his buddies. He's actually, he ate and he, there's a per career or it's a very, very high passion of his. I'm not really sure on the backstory on there. But Big Miles. I'm going to have to butcher his name. Go ahead. It's a Quebec name too. Go.

Quab-Dukes. Quab-Dukes. It's Kebado. Kebado. Like K-K. Yeah. Nate, let me know if I said it right or if keith did but yeah big job to uh big thanks to miles we'll get to him later um but you know that was really

cool video and i think we storyboarded some of that i think that there were some of the between there was a lot of we we kind of collaborated on the direction of it yeah i mean nate nate had a ton of surveillance that he had to put somewhere. You know, he's been watching us for a long time. And, you know, I guess the cat's out of the bag on that one. But, you know, I guess just be careful. Nate is always watching. Yeah.

Check your shower heads, folks. Nate's always watching. I think the funniest thing about the drop for me is, like, you know, I have a handful of my good friends that have bought the shirts to support my parents bought the shirts um so like my mom is my like 65 year old mother is going to open it you know a bag from tanner with a t-shirt and a sticker with my head on it and i'm just going to be so she's gonna be so confused of why i i honestly i don't even know if she's going to recognize that it's me at first. Like, I'm sure she will. But like, you know, she's like 60.

Her vision isn't great. So it's like she's going to say she has a random sticker. Like, I'm just I'm just envisioning how funny that's going to be to me. And yeah, I can't wait to see her and actually like see what they did with the sticker. My dad put it in like a toolbox or something. I enjoyed it the other day. Somebody asking where all the keith memes came from and then i had to give like like a legitimate scientific well it started this day with this and you know me laughing at keith for putting his head

in this picture that he didn't need to be in whatever i had to document that i was there fuck you i stand stand by that picture and i will always take a version of that now that's like a thing now yeah it is it's a thing everybody's doing it now too like ryan was doing it yeah it's definitely and the nate's head um i i shortcut it does work that now it works flawlessly that was really funny i have two i'm not i'm not a big uh tech guy with iphones yet but uh yeah i have two shortcuts saved and it's orange glaze and it's the keith head so hey i guess nate's uh you know in nature they're in influencing the influencer yeah as as uh what is it as keith says that joey says yep there you go what are you drinking you got a smear enough ice over there

that would be nice what do you got cody uh i've actually got uh one of my home brews uh so i made a sour ale a while back um and it's delicious and then uh on standby i do have a polar black cherry just because i don't want to have too many beers on a weeknight yeah yeah that's uh don't host a podcast like the first three months i think i was hungover every friday and i was like i can't do this anymore so now it's like once in a blue moon um i have not been shopping in forever so i think i'm down to my last bubbly in the whole house or well sparkling water it's the last of that water uh strawberry waterloo that's actually still really good but uh little getting redundant.

So I'll try to get something for next week, boys. Uh, I have a Keith's and then I got a cooler full of, as usual, the magic bag of tricks, which I think is just more Keith's and some sparkling waters. Um,

but I just want to point out that you can't get hung over if you never stopped drinking. Yeah. Pro tip boys. Pro tip. I got a, that, that 90 minute drive tomorrow, an e-brainer wouldn't be good. i know i got a deadlift tomorrow i'm not getting i'm not getting hammered or anything

tonight like screw that you know i've never been so sore in my life as i was from the other day so i went to uh i had a couple buddies um they actually i only had some people i casually knew competing but i went to i was at a powerlifting a local powerlifting meet the other day on uh this the previous saturday to this and uh ended up you know getting asked to spot and load just the well isn't more just loading because it was just on deadlifts like they uh you know a lot of those meets like that you know they have a a wave of guys that kind of come and go and sign up for certain flights and stuff and they just ended up being like a little short during the last deadlifts and the one guy that was uh helping out

like cut his hand really bad loading plates so he had to step out and then big chris mark was like basically doing all the work on one side when it's usually a two two person job so i was just like well i'm not gonna sit there and watch my buddy fucking like you know do all this work when i was just sitting in the back anyway so i jumped in and helped him and ended up spotting and loading the last two flights of deadlifts, maybe two and a half. Goddamn dude. My, uh, it was, it was very nerve wracking cause I don't really, I don't want to use collars. I don't use competition collars and I'm don't like, I don't like, you know, never fucking sped speed loaded before. So that was very, uh, weird. Um,

and it was RPS. So they had a hundred pound plates. So it wasn't just like, just keep adding red 55, 25 kg plates. It was all in pounds, but it was 100-pound plates. And then they had, I think they had three 100-pound plates. And then anything over that, that's when they started putting reds on. And I was like, this is fucking tedious. Because every time you had to go from like, you had to go from 700 pounds back down to like fucking 400 so i gotta strip all those hundreds off and uh basically my hamstrings never hurt so much the next day like the next three days i just my i did have a heavy deadlift

that friday but it wasn't enough to fucking like i felt great saturday until after i did that and so if you ever want to destroy your hamstrings, apparently just, just load for deadlifts and at a RPS meet, you'd be good. So where you may be influenced by our guests from last week. I must've been, it was very ironic that that has like, it was literally, there was,

there was two days later or three days later that I was like, fuck his. My first time spotting and loading was after, you know, interviewing spotting, spotting spotters and loaders. So I did enjoy that. So, but yeah, that was very taxing. after, you know, interviewing spotting, spotting spotters and loaders. So I did enjoy that. So,

but yeah, that was very taxing. I, I made, I made the joke to one of the coaches there that I've done some strongman with after the fact, it's like, you know,

today was the hardest I have ever worked in here. And this is a guy I've done like three or four sessions with. So that was pretty funny. And that was just that. All right. For, uh, I load for my, uh, Jim's competitions every once in a while

and it's always way harder than the actual competition so kudos absolutely we had a little AI song that dropped today didn't get it was I think one of the day Tommy I think had been making some

I guess it sounded like and then he like shared the link to that and then I think one of the day i think well tommy i think had been making some i guess it sounded like and then he like shared the link to that and then i think one of the davids hopped in there and made a a you and you one uh i thought it was great it was hysterical um definitely got some jabs at us in the lyrics so i've really just enjoyed that uh was it uh to tell a joke and then explain it and how that ruins it for everyone or some bullshit like that so yeah lots of references to me talking about wrestling i think i think i heard thinly veiled canadian accent at some point in the lyrics as well yeah it was pretty good it was really good yeah good work yes one of them or both or all um i like how they like they just collectively decided they were on the same side

and they're both just so mean to me it's so funny to me that they were both just like David get Joey everyone needs a common enemy right brings us all together

do you have a chance to watch the youtube video from this uh actually i was i'm i'm very happy they did it they they dropped it on wednesday um because obviously today was a big a little bit busy of a day i wouldn't have been watching too many youtube videos if they dropped at four o'clock today so i'm glad that they rectified that i think i think the last time they had a drop there was like three things going on at once it's like fuck i don't have time to watch a YouTube video, deal with the drop and like finish podcast prep. So kudos to Tommy and Tanner for getting that sorted out for us.

But that would have been the meat prep blog at a big, big Nathan and Abby's house. So a followup to the gym tour. That was the, the, the throat in at Waterton. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Cody, did you get a chance to watch Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cody, did you get a chance to watch that? I missed that. I, I struggled to watch YouTube videos. So I've been pretty, pretty bad on this.

Yeah. Yeah. Me too. But you know, our shirt was leaked in that video. It was. Yeah. Some people here,

we were like desperately trying to hide it and not show. I didn't even wear it out in the world. I was just like, nobody can know. And they just threw it in their YouTube video. So was pretty funny yeah yeah i think they're i mean they're it's not their first rodeo they know to you know sneak a little bit but don't don't don't give the full monty until it's time to go yeah um dude the one more little hark into last week when uh you know it's kind of old news now but the the twin follow-up that tommy tommy not realizing it until he saw it in discord because we would talk about

on the podcast and then like that whole like three minute segment like i posted it on facebook to my like like all my family and they thought it was the funniest fucking thing because they've just they've known me and my brothers aren't you know yeah don't look is it was it was a hit i had multiple people like 60 70 year old aunts and uncles just like pissing themselves laughing so hard watching that so i thought that was great uh yeah who is who were we on with who was the guest that week when you just casually dropped it and we were both like what like like we both were just blown away. And you just went like, oh, yeah, you know, because I've got twin brothers. I think so, yeah.

It was, yeah. Yeah. And you were like, you know, because I have twin brothers. And we were like, really, dude? Like, we've been making twin jokes for a year, and you're hiding your twin brothers from us right now? So it's really funny that it's finally made its way into canon. It only took three weeks. Man, it's hard to keep straight what you tell about i'm like i'm in a couple other like clicks

obviously not as big as like massonomics world but like it's hard to keep track of like which circle of friends know which like intimate detail about me apparently so keeping it all straight takes a minute all right want to rate last week's episode or do you want to go with the the deadlift party topic yeah what's the day i you wanna go with the deadlift party topic yeah what's the deadlift I'm assuming you put the deadlift party in there so you tell me about it alright my eyes are on fire

okay so a little while ago I saw that Big Lou was at like some deadlift barbecue and I thought to myself well shit I'd like to do that yeah but like nobody here does those so then i thought well i guess i'm gonna have to do it myself so reached out to one or two people put it out on instagram and just said is anybody interested in this and despite crew

from all over north america responding it was kind of overwhelmingly yes. Well, as we've mentioned before, I have a friend who happens to be the head chef at a local tavern that has a very big patio. So I was in there the other day and he was like, hey, I might come out of retirement because he hasn't deadlifted in a while. He had a hernia and he says, I might come out of retirement for your deadlift party and i was like well fun story do you think we could do it here and he was like if not here maybe my place i know a couple guys because my house is just too far away right like i've got a gravel pit i don't have an area for deadlifting you know you'd have to all come into the gross mildewy basement and i'm not doing that to anybody he messaged me the next day and he goes hey i spoke to the owner if you can get event insurance let's do it there you go so i'm thinking october at a licensed establishment we're gonna do a dead

lift party we get a little tent get some you coaches, me, big Steve, just some people like make sure people aren't hurting themselves. Maybe run it for charity. I today actually reached out to Jagermeister said, Hey, what would it take for you guys to show up? Uh, but yeah, maybe we're going to bring strength training back to my city because there is nothing in my city. There are a couple of gyms. They're mostly CrossFit, but everything seems to happen outside of the city in Burlington or Mississauga. It never happens in Hamilton. So I'm going to do that. I think

I'm going to get that together. So Keith, you're going to be invited. Yeah, I should check the calendar and get a date, but yeah. That's a busy period for us, but 99% chance I'll be there. I'll try and do it on the Sunday. I think a Sunday is is going to be the best the best bet for that this is we gotta i just gotta work around her birth uh an anniversary and some birthdays that's all but yeah we'll figure it

out but you'll be invited obviously all the crew will be invited uh i was hoping to do it for charity but i gotta figure out if that's either like you pay to lift or people sponsor you to lift um or we just kind of have a pot going where if you show up and like you paid a lift or people sponsor you to lift, um, or we just kind of have a pot going where if you show up and lift, you sign a waiver and pay five bucks and the money goes charity or just anything like that, that like we do have a waiver guy. We've got a,

got a waiver guy, big Chad. I'm not sure how that would work with Canadian law and all that. When I get the insurance, I'm sure the waiver will be included in the insurance, but, but yeah, so that's a, that's a, like my past two weeks have been, I'm sure the waiver will be included in the insurance. But yeah, so that's like my past two weeks have been top of my brain. Going a mile a minute, straight up deadlifts, no feds, no rules.

Just I'll bring my Texas bar. We'll bring a straight bar because we might even have like a little thing on the side that's like learn how to deadlift because there will be bystanders walking by right and it's like maybe one plates on there and we just show people how to deadlift like you know donate two dollars and you know somebody here deadlifting will show you how to deadlift so yeah that's it that's going i'm in i dig it so excited do it live i like it this podcast will be the main sponsor cody's Cody and his fiance are flying out. I hear. So it should be a good time. Yeah.

That's all right. So Cody, do you have a chance to listen to last week's podcast episode where the boys talked about Smith machines and some other stuff? I did. It was a great time. You want, you want to.

Yeah. So I, I liked the Smith machine talk cause you know, that's the first thing everybody talks shit about. The first time you learn how to do strong stuff. And I enjoy the episodes with no guest and it was just them chatting and laughing. But I really didn't like the the in-body scan thing. I don't think, not only are they not precise, they're also not accurate. So you're not even going to be able to do it consistently.

Because of that, I just have to give it a 5 out of 5 broken gym iPods. I've got one of those, right? It's not as obviously in-depth as putting in your name and phone number and and all that um but i do have one of the ones that you stand on and it just buzzes up through your feet and like the idea that i'm obese fucking slays me i'm 162 pounds and it's just like you're dangerously obese and like you've got 23 or 24 body fat that's pretty bad and i was like no it fucking isn't like i can lift two and a half times my

body weight for reps like i think i'm doing okay stupid scale so i i don't really buy into these things i only got it just because i think it was on sale on amazon and i just wanted it in the basement and uh yeah i don't really i take it every once in a while because like tommy was saying I think it was on sale on Amazon and I just wanted it in the basement. And, uh, yeah, I don't really, I take it every once in a while because like Tommy was saying, even if it's wrong, at least it's going to show a trend wrong. Right.

Like, I don't think so. Cody, Cody said it's so inaccurate that it might not be. Yeah. I think it's not like, it's just like, yeah,

as you change it, the way it scans changes. So I think they've shown that like, it's not even good at watching the trend it was like a stronger by science thing so it's like the exact opposite of a silly goose time uh you know just getting into the nitty-gritty of the science of it so they're like you're pretty much better off just doing the old school measure your neck measure your waist and that's going to be either just as close or even better no no well either way um smith machine talk i've always wanted a hack squat just because i think it would be easier on my knees than an actual free weight squatting um so that kind of like appeals to me a bit,

but I've never used a Smith machine and nor do I have any desire to. So a lot of sets and rep talk on that episode. So for that, I got to give it five massonomic slides. Oh, nice. That's a good rating. Let's see what I can come up with here.

So all in all good episode i already hit on the the you know the the talk about my brother so that's obviously to me it was a you know it hit it out of the park because you know the vanity of any time you hear your name on the podcast like well that's gotta be a fucking 10 out of 10 doesn't it but uh i definitely took a hard disagree with saying that and i get like he you know they definitely reiterated you know underrated and unpaid or you know fuck overrated and underrated it's not you know and they give their whole spiel on that and like even playing it off of those rules the fact that they basically said like they are super popular again to me is enough to be like not in my fucking book they're not so

so they're always going to be unpaid to me um Not a big Smith machine guy, but I'm definitely a big mass nomics guy. So for that, we'll go ahead and give it five out of five surprise twin brothers. And I don't think Cody, did we ask what you were wearing? I don't think we did. I'm wearing the, the polo,

the mass nomics polo. It's a good one. Yeah. I felt like I should dress up how does how does how does the sleeve cut fall on your arm are you happy with that because like the one time i've seen different uh you know people wearing them and some look like they're down to their forearms and others are like you know right at the elbow so it's close to the elbow okay it was pretty loose loosey-goosey but uh i've been hitting biceps hard over the last six months um so i'm trying to fill this thing out nice uh i hadn't done curls in like 12 years but once i got these sleeves i was like i gotta fill these out and so that's that is the

massonomics blanks definitely make you well you know change up your routine to fit into those shirts the right way for sure yeah uh speaking of massonomics do you have anything uh do you have a sponsor or do you want to hit us with i do right hey there strong and silly geese are you tired of the same old fitness advice i need a fresh perspective on lifting heavy things we'll look no further than the massonomics podcast aircraft grade aluminum will keep you safe while you get a 10 000 foot view of your favorite butt rock songs and nineties commercials. And don't forget to join the crew. They're like the long lost older twin brothers.

You never knew you had, they'll cheer you on, cheer you on and share stories about all sorts of body parts from toes to teeth. So tune into the massonomics podcast and smash that join button on massonomics.com slash join. Oh, I like to smash the join button.

That's, that's some good YouTube quality content right there. And they'll even tell you about the twin brothers that you didn't tell us you had. Good stuff. Alright, should we get our guest on the horn? Yeah, we still got a bunch of looky-loos.

I know we had a full house a minute ago. Nah, nah, they're all gone. I took care of them. Good, good, good. Yeah, Nate told me what they were up to and I was just able to take care of them. Alright, yeah, good. Nate told me what they were up to, and I was just able to take care of them. All right, yeah, let's get Cody on the horn. Is that you, buddy? That's me. How's it going? Hey, welcome to the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Awesome, awesome. Well, we'll go ahead and hit it off with the hard question first. What brought you to Mathnomics? question first what brought you to massonomics mass i was getting into podcasts around like 2016 and i was driving from sacramento to southern california so it's like 400 miles or so uh just up and down like every other weekend and i was like just going through looking for all these podcasts i'm like what's the best lifting podcast massonomics came up and uh it was all all three of the boys at the time and i was really enjoying it um and somehow i just kept listening kept enjoying it bought bought all the shirts and i it took so uh because then discord came out in what 21 20 early 22 or early 21 early 21 and so i sat on it until last year right after the lift hard live easy i was so i had so much fomo just watching

everybody have such a great time i was like i gotta join crew now um and so yeah i've been been on crew for about a year um nice and now i'm really excited for the lift hard live easy too yeah you're signed up for the uh strongman uh i i do love when people you know a lot i think a lot of people are in that boat they've like they're there's people out there that could be like more loyal listeners of you know and following of the instagram and the podcast and youtube but they just never put the bullet on crew. You know, you are an example. Like, you know, if you were that deep into the podcast, there was probably, you know, lots of people that were just casual crew kind of thing. And then, you know, here you are finally getting motivated to join.

And it's probably been the best year of your life. It's been fantastic. Everyone's been so nice. And, um, and yeah, I was was involved you know i commented on everything on instagram and uh did all the contests but it's it's just not quite the same and until you uh smash that join button absolutely it's definitely definitely a different level and i do i don't know if everyone was nice i'm sure ryan gave you you know a hard time. I was going to say the same thing. I don't think he was mean. I don't remember. Oh, no, that's the... He ran...

There was a whole bit with that. That's one of those inside jokes that, you know, you got to... I don't know. I only vaguely remember he pissed someone. Who did he piss off? God damn it. It doesn't matter. They left and did the chargeback.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think that is... I thought... Yeah, you're right. I think that is what it was. There was a whole bit about that or wasn't a bit it was an actual thing no nobody was mean he said that he said the people in the discord are rude and we went and checked back to everything he ever said the only person to ever talk to him was ryan and he just said change your

name to big but it wasn't even no it was so yeah it's more it was more of a it's more of a bit of us busting his balls about that was actually him being rude don't bust his balls the poor guy yeah the only real problem on the uh on the discord is is big sam he's been a real problem yeah is that thunder thunder hawk yes samer bunk uh under bunk i don't like that yeah uh no we somebody was just like we need to have enemies for the strong man so uh big cody big sam you guys are enemies now that's funny what's your body weight because sam sam is a beefy boy so where are you at so i float around victim weight um i'm like 90 kilos right now uh 198 pounds okay yeah sam's got like 30 pounds on you i think yeah um so i'm gonna just try to hang in there with the big boys nice um big men really i'm i'm in the big men but i'm hoping to make them look like big boys

there you go there you go that's the spirit yeah i think i did briefly well now that we do talking i talked about that uh we must must i don't know if i preemptively knocked it out or whatever but uh we're gonna do a little road to the lift hard live easy uh video segment um over the next few weeks so anyone that is competing and that'll be in aberdeen just send me over uh you know a you know to the unpaid underrated to our instagram page like a 60 second clip of just uh you know a road to the lift hard, live easy video. So give me a little quick training recap, who you are, you know, call anybody out, make it funny. You know, obviously I've posted about this a few times, but if you're

listening to this, just, you know, DM us and we'll, we'll tell you what we're looking for. And we're just trying to have a whole story highlight to kind of show the competitors and make sure everyone's following each other and tag everyone. And just kind of, you know, one extra level of getting crew that more involved with the other crew. So that's the whole goal of that. This, this light makes me look real old and I'm not sure how to fix it. Like it's,

it's like making every wrinkle show up. We're not young men. We're definitely not young. We're just normal men. We're just innocent men. Uh, people near 40 year old men podcasting in our spare bedrooms. Good stuff.

You guys have spare bedrooms? Cody, so, do you have a Hall of Fame status? Like, how long? You know what? Even though I only joined about a year ago, I was doing pretty well. Let's see.

So, looking forward, forward i'm gonna be attending and competing at the lift hard live easy i miss the arnold and crew falls uh been almost a year i own a drink spotter i own a lot of band merchandise um i have no idea how many orders i placed um do you have an account yeah but uh i made a bunch of orders before i had an account do those not count i mean it does absolutely just if you have an account it's easier to track so i i've got to be around 10 um so what is that six one two three four five six uh I've won a couple contests. I won the Jefferson Deadlift. I was one of the top folks. I did the Everything Deadlift

before Mikey Maybe Me ever did that. I had a different Instagram thing at the time, and then I deleted that one because I hated having two Instagrams. That does suck. Yeah. I was like, hey, I gotta. Yeah. So it's just,

I just was like, Hey, I got to pick one and it's going to be the like lifting one. And now I just don't post anything. Yeah. I post some stuff. I do a lot of stories. Cause it's always like your actual like Instagram feed itself. I was like,

I'm sorry. I scroll like four slides for uh posts down i'm in like 2021 i'm like what the fuck like what's give me the relevant shit yeah well it's like i always like again i'm a bird watcher so like i see a bird i'm like nobody needs to look back back ah remember that like no just today uh you get to see it uh i relate to that actually yeah we'll talk a bit more about that yeah um uh I am now on the unpaid and underrated podcast uh I'm gonna have to find another crew member to take a picture with because I have not done that uh and then I'll be uh also when I'm in South Dakota I'm gonna be uh trying to

lift at the massonomics gym either the day before or after the meet. And then I've listened to all the episodes, so I'm good there. So I think if I do all these things in July, I will hit 12. Hell yeah! Hang on, hang on. That's 11. I need to get my voice on the Massanomics podcast within the next month to get to hit 12 by Lift Hard, Live Easy.

That one could do it. That's a hard one. Yeah, we'll see.'ll see you're better off just booking a plane ticket to uh sioux falls uh you know this december and just you know plan on that i could do that too i might shoot them a message say hey i'm real close to riding the line here do you really want that they hate that i mean it is a line in the sand sometimes but not with the Hall of Fame at least well in those 10 orders

was there ever something that you didn't order and then regretted yeah I did not get the 8-bit Highland Games shirt I have no 8-bit shirts because yeah I did my first Highland games like to

2022 in october so i think it was long gone since then um um so i think the eight bit shirts started going away about the time i joined uh there's still power lifting eight bit i think in every size strongman has some of the smaller sizes, but nothing in XL or XX, I think. But Highland's been gone for a few years, at least two years, I think, from regular restock.

I know several people, me included, that are desperately waiting for a 2X 8-bit Strongman to come back. Yeah, I think right now all I have is the 8-bit party time. Good one. But yeah, missing out on that Highland Games shirt. So you had mentioned you were commuting from Sacramento to LA.

So you're in California. So essentially, where do you live? Where are you from? I'm from and live in a thousand oaks california it's oh uh again the southern northwest southern california so it's just outside of la okay um but you know when i say la people think oh he lives in like that you know city and i'm i'm in uh i'm in a nice little Allah! I'm in a nice little suburb. I'm right by the mountains, the Santa Monica Mountains here. I can go

hiking from my house. I can just go walk over and hit a trail. There is wildlife out here. I don't know. As close as I am to LA, I don't really enjoy the city. Who does? I'm as close as I am to LA. I don't really enjoy the city. I mean, who does?

Yeah. I'm going to say, I wouldn't. We went into the city, I think not yesterday. Cause we have the great lakes up here and some people don't, if you're not from the area and it's probably something Keith, you know, you'd probably take for granted. Yeah. Great lakes. They're inland seas. They're not technically lakes. They are actually inland seas.

Inland freshwater seas. Because they are so big and so deep. So yesterday I just was like, we don't visit this enough. So we took the little girl to the harbor front to step in goose shit. I think you saw my reel there where I was like look at

yeah i am the goose whisperer never been attacked by a goose oh i have been attacked by a goose it sucks i know yeah yeah we talk about silly geese but like they're horrible yeah they're monsters like they they hissed they were hissing at Saga because she's about the size of a Canada goose they were hissing at her but then the one tried to hiss at me and I just kind of punked it out and it flapped away

they're jerks hit you with a little least fun most fun real quick this is our fastest growing segment it is it's a you know it's a relatively new segment as i just originally came up with that a phrase here so least fun most fun so it's um we'll give you a couple topics you just tell me the least fun and most fun thing about that individual topic we're not comparing them to other things or unpaid or

underrated anything like that least fun most fun so big cody i want to know the least fun and most fun thing about training with your significant other. Ooh, the most fun thing. And I'm going to expand a little bit. Do I have my druthers? You have your druthers. Absolutely. All right.

Is, yeah, I get to train with my fiance at the training hall. It's where Martine's won world strongest. And then he went and opened his own gym. But like, I got a bunch of friends there i've got her there so like when i get off of work and i go to the gym i get to lift have like relationship building time and have like friendship time so it's like three three for the price of one um the least fun is that, you know, if, you know, if one of us is having a bad day, um, you know, it's, it kind of falls she's a teacher had a long day teaching kids and then comes up and it's just all tired and it's like not hitting the number she wants to hit and i'm just like i like you know let's just do what we can today for training and then i'm all stuck uh you know forgetting my sets not you know resting for 30 minutes or something in between

sets losing my stuff yeah i, I can definitely see that. You're too invested. Obviously, it's your partner, so you are invested in them. But it's like, this is also my training time. So it's like, it's kind of split in that. I could see that. I've only ever tried to try. I've tried to train with my wife a few times.

But, you know, it's just, we're not good together in the gym. Like, it's like, as far as like i you can't get my wife lifting advice and you know she has to hear it from someone else essentially so that's just how that goes in my house yeah i do i do a good job of like having like uh a coat i i would i'd say coach hat but like she she can handle herself um but like uh advice hat versus like boyfriend hat. And like, I've seen some other people in relationships, you know, start and end a relationship in the gym.

So luckily, luckily we do it well. Nice. I only, I only ever trained with Morgan once because I'm an early morning workout. Like if it's past two, if it's past 2 PM, I'm probably not going to pick up a weight because it just messes up my whole night and she was a after work workout and i think the one time

she came with me in the morning and she just snapped at me and yelled at me and finally i looked at her and was like you are never working out with me again this is not an okay way so what's most fun or did we already do both? No, he did. He opened with most. Well, my second one was going to be training at the training hall, but you kind of already touched base on that. So I'll do a quicker one. Just Moss Wrestling, least fun, most fun. What is it before you get into this?

I saw it all over the notes. Moss Wrestling means more wrestling, but like... It's Moss in... I forget what uh it's it's like a small like country in russia it's um yakut um so it means moss in their language means stick so basically so basically it's you've seen it on you've seen yes okay yep yeah so you put your feet up on a board at your door and stuff yeah i'm a fucking idiot not sorry it's not that kind of right speak too many languages here basically it's like fighting over a stick it's tug of war i've seen it um there's there's a

little board on the ground you can step side to side um so there's there's some strategy and it's kind of like um you know you've seen judo where people have really good takedowns. Now, instead of vertical, now it's horizontal. So you try to just launch them onto your side or take the stick away. I think I saw Tom Schroka doing that. So, like, yeah, yeah, I've seen it for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

I think there's a pretty big group in the Midwest somewhere. Well, that's a pretty vast area considering it comes it goes all the way from ohio to fucking or something yeah it's like fucking coast coast is midwest you know but they do have they do have a championship at the arnold so um we could get a i don't know if it's teams like team usa i guess but all right yeah i have a reason to go there too so so least fun most fun you know quick answers what you got um most fun is just doing something different um least fun is tearing your uh tearing your hands up because you know if you've ever torn your hands on a on a deadlift bar uh it's now imagine if somebody you know that's here to

fight you just starts twisting it in your hand and you're trying to hold on and it just is the stick itself is it like the diameter of a broomstick or is it thicker is it like a barbell diameter like what's the uh it's a little thicker than a barbell um maybe like a 30 bar like 32 30 30 32 i'm now just smooth wood. It's like a smooth wooden dowel though. I'm now picturing the scene from Robin Hood Men in Tights when Robin and Little John are fighting with the little sticks on the bridge. They're just clacking each other on the fingers. Oh, oh, can I change my mind?

The least fun thing is the board right in the center. Oh, can I change my mind? The least fun thing is the board right in the center. An actual strategy is to basically smash the opponent's hands into that board. Oh, yeah, that's the worst. Did you ever go up against Martins there? Did you guys overlap your time there to some extent, I imagine? Yeah, I was training there and probably started in like late 2017 through 2018. So then 2018 and half of 2019, he was there a lot.

He showed us some tips and tricks and stuff. He's a Moss wrestling champion before he was a World's Strongest Man. Yeah, so learn some tips there. Now, I know, so this kind of moving on just just general topics real quick just uh it so training at that gym in general um how's it been like just hanging out with like ode like oh you know ode how is it haugen yeah ode ode haugen yeah a lot of people say odd or whatever but yeah he's a big big strong guy and it's one of those things where it's like if you outlift him on something you're so proud of yourself and then you realize that

he's like a 78 year old man he really is that old right yeah yeah uh and he'll come in and double overhand deadlift uh like 450 on an axle jesus damn it. That's impressive. Yeah. Um, yeah, he's still crushing like arm lifting. Um, but I think he slowed down on, on strong man. Um, just do a lot of the programming for the guys there or,

uh, not, not really. He's got a couple of clients. Um, but for the most part, people just come in and, and kind of train for their own thing.

We've got a lot of power lifters, a handful of strong men. Uh, it's not as like, it's not like everyone there is just the biggest, strongest guy you've ever met. It's the same as anywhere. It's like,

there's some people that are just like doing a little bit of exercise. There's some people that are training hard for whatever meet meets coming next. Uh, we have a couple like Olympic, uh, athletes, like a long jumper that comes in all the time and

she's always doing like super weird squat workouts and whatnot but yeah i've seen i've seen some of those like sports specific stuff where like they'll uh they'll do like like a basically just squat down like three inches to pins and then like i just explode up i've seen some weird stuff and people always like roast them in the comments but they're like elite level like athletes yeah yeah yeah it could be careful those guys power wires coming for you i love yeah and it's like what what are they doing and why are they doing it it's like if i went to the commercial gym nearby and started doing good mornings people be like oh wow that's a terrible squat and it's like, well, yeah, because I'm not squatting. So it's like they're not squatting.

They're just doing some explosive work and they have a meet in like three days. So like all they're trying to do is just move a little bit. So speaking of stay powerful. So speaking of like training and stuff like that, how does one do what you do and train for literally everything all the time? Because it says here in the notes that you're just one of those like, eh, fuck it, I'll sign up for something. And you just do Highland or Powerlifting or Strongman just because

whatever, I'm going to go be strong. Yeah. Usually I just kind of pick one thing to train for, but then I still sign up for whatever sounds fun. I love that. And i kind of rank them like in like level like how much do i need to train for this so like uh like moss wrestling

and arm lifting uh i just kind of show up and do um if there's somebody on the board and like oh like let's let's wrestle at the end of the workout it's more technical than it is like strength training can you explain arm arm lifting uh grip grip sport yeah um so like it sometimes like a guy at the gym will be like hey are you signed up for the meet on saturday and i'll be like what meet he's like oh there's a grip meet here and i was like oh okay yeah i'll do it i'm free um and if you just if you just sign up for like a more niche sport um you're gonna be like maybe top 10 in the nation. You just got to find more and more obscure sports.

So if you're not winning football, go into powerlifting. If you're not winning powerlifting, go into armlifting or armwrestling. If you're not winning that, go into moss wrestling. And eventually you'll be a champion it's uh yeah um but yeah as far as the training goes i just do um like the basics you know squat rest deadlift is usually the go the go-to exercises just you know most people know um and then just kind of building on like what do i want to work on more so like you for this strongman comp i'm training a lot of log stones carries and deads um and then after that if like uh highland games is coming up like

it's still pretty transferable yep um yeah and then also i lose a lot too so uh i lost my last highland games or i got third third out of four in the lightweight Highland guys. And the guy that got first place, he dedicates himself to Highland Games. So training for your sport definitely makes you better at your sport. But also, if you sign up and do it, you're

going to have a good time. You're the third strongest person in the room. Oh, no. Right? There's a hundred people watching the room. Oh, no. Right? Like, there's a hundred people watching, right? Oh, no. Yeah. All right.

There's something on here that probably doesn't get talked about as much as I thought it would. You have an extended Futurama reference repertoire. I do. And so do I. Yeah, he left the planet for no reason. It's probably something that gets said in my household daily. Yeah, what I should have said for the last one was just that the easy part is getting the brain out but uh the hard part is getting the brain out and and fry has that brain thing i already did that's also another one that comes out of my a lot uh yeah so that's pretty um i'm surprised that doesn't come up with the amount of nerds

we have on this podcast there's there's some good Simpsons references that go out a lot. I just saw a King of the Hill meme on the Discord just a little bit ago. That was fantastic. Bobby was all over there, yeah. And yeah, I feel like more people should throw in Futurama memes. Well, not even just the memes. I think, yeah, I just suddenly just referenced Futurama a lot under my breath. Uh,

that and super troopers and just hope somebody in the room gets it. Uh, but that also like you've done a lot of weird nerdy stuff that you judged the science fair. I did. Um, yeah, I,

uh, I got to judge the Ventura County science fair, and there's a bunch of high school kids. I judged botany, because I have a degree in biology, and then I work as an environmental scientist. I was going to say, nobody has a degree in biology. What did you focus on? There's always a specific niche. Evolutionary biology. Hell yeah.

With a lot of conservation as the extra classes like ornithology, invertebrate zoology, conservation biology, climatology. That is really cool. I told her earlier, I was reading these notes and was like, you're going to like this. She listens to some podcast called poor pearls do you ever do you ever hear poor pearls almanac no i haven't heard it okay yeah so they're

it's a touchy subject because they get political sometimes but um she was just like ask him if he listens to that because it sounds right up like that's it what is it again or p-o-o-r god damn it i wrote it down because i wanted to talk to you about it uh poor paroles p-o-o-r p-o-r-l-e-s almanac uh they do get very political um they're they're pretty leaning in one particular direction but a lot of them are very into that kind of stuff. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, you know, doing environmental science, there's, you know, a general direction of, you know. However, doing environmental science is very different than being an environmentalist yes yeah i'm just

gonna leave it at that is like i i don't get into fights at work but uh a lot of people don't like what i'm doing when i'm like hey man i'm just trying to save this habitat here um you know and it's the classic like everyone knows how to do your job better than you do. Of course. I've read Facebook headlines. I know how to do your job. Yeah. All right. Well, let's put that out there. I mean, obviously, I have a lot more to talk about on that one, because you'll never guess what I stumbled upon.

I mentioned earlier, before we started recording, that I was, like, cleaning up a mess around my booth. The booth, whatever this booth is. My little girl brought this. pocket birds of canada second edition she was playing with this book earlier um so yeah i understand that you a little like me like bird watching i do why why are we why are we the way we are i will tell you my ex and i'm going back 15 years i had this weird habit would be driving and i'm the driver and i would just start pointing out birds oh that's a and that's a blah blah and then I was just like, oh, I'm sorry. Like, I'm boring you. And she's like, you're into birds. You're going to have to get over that. Like, you're just, I don't know where it came from.

I think it was from when I was a little kid. But like, why are we the way we are? Why do we care so much about dinosaurs? I guess it is. It's just the adult version of dinosaurs where you can just like, it's appropriate. It's accessible like also there's a little bit of just like losing attention of like a bird flies by and you immediately turn and look yeah yeah um like all i i have to stop my conversations with people when

i see like a hawk flying by and that's just that's just who i am hawk too yeah yep the hawk one or hawk two no and it's yeah i'm definitely the same way it's kind of like um it's like the acceptable adult version of pokemon yeah where you're just like oh i saw that then you gotta write it down your little book yeah yeah uh i so i don't post a lot on instagram but i think about posting on instagram so i do think about doing like my training log right next to my bird log and just being like all right here's the sets and reps i hit today and here's the birds i saw today so so obviously as a grown adult male you have a favorite bird what's your favorite bird there's a lot of good birds um let's just

go with the classic the red-tailed hawk um and i'm gonna say maybe it's the it's just objectively the best bird i get a lot of those around here like a lot yeah and you know what's funny is like you know they're called a red-tailed hawk and when you see them you go that's a red-tailed hawk but then you see them up close and you go look at the rat on that tail yeah keith you got a favorite bird uh fuck i don't know i guess i i don't really i couldn't pick a bird out of a lineup honestly i don't i don't know i don't we were like my mascot but when i was in elementary school was the hawks so i guess i'll go with the hawk there we go but as far as a physical bird i don't know how many birds are cool to watch hummingbirds are really cool okay what do you cody i'm sure you've seen the shark tank thing

where the dude has the fucking the hat with the hummingbird feeder coming off of it and like the big plastic visor is that gimmicky or is that something like that would actually do you think it actually works and they're like getting birds on their faces i like the way the ad shows it like if you just go outside with a bird feeder on your face you're not going to get any birds no birds don't like if you have a bird feeder outside and then you do you've seen the ones where like they were like wrapped in like a blanket with the glasses with the little feeder on and they're yeah they sit really still the birds already know to come there then you're gonna get birds um but like if you don't have a feeder

out they're not gonna come to you for the first time i've got um so he debunked the shark tank. Between me and where one of my coworkers lives, there's a couple ponds, right? There's like a triangle of them, and there's a blue heron that flies in between. I never get so excited as to see, as I do when I see that blue heron fly by. Because it's got like a five-foot wingspan. That thing is bigger than half my family.

So I'm going to have to say that that one bird is my favorite bird. I love seeing that guy fly by. Those birds are awesome. I see them at my work a lot and they hang out in some of the fields and they wait for gophers and squirrels. Yep. Like they're fishing and they'll just grab one out of the hole and like swallow the whole it's frightening and exciting birds are terrifying like when you hear

about some of the stuff that they do when you're like we think of birds it's just like oh they fly and they eat bugs and berries they're they're monsters like you said they're dinosaurs they are dinosaurs when we were um i think when we in, not Minnesota, but the one in between, we were at a gas station. We left the hotel. We flew into a gas station. And I was like, I tapped Steve. And I was like, dude, there's like three deer standing over in that field, just standing there. And he goes, those are small like, dude, there's like three deer standing over in that field, just standing there. And he goes, those are either, those are small deer, dude.

No, they were sandhill cranes. Hell yeah. And they are, they are gigantic for birds. And apparently the most delicious bird from what Steve was telling me, but like, it was kind of wild to see to see those guys out there yeah i believe the most delicious bird is probably the cutest bird um and and i think that with all animals is that is that well rabbit then right yeah rabbits are cute and they're pretty good i think because rabbits only exist to be delicious like they don't actually contribute to anything in the ecosystem. Their only job

is... Luck, of course. Sure. Again, we don't get political here. But they... Are rabbit feats political? Did I miss that? No, just the idea that luck doesn't exist. That's political? I was going to say

no, I'm an atheist. I don't believe gonna say no i'm an atheist i don't believe in luck so but like rabbits their only job is be cute make as many of you as possible and get eaten by bigger things like they don't actually do anything else so of course they're delicious uh the cutest bird i mean orioles are damn cute and so are chickadees is it one of those i don't know um those are all pretty cute um i mean just like you've got a general statement yeah just generally oh okay like yeah one day i'm gonna discover yeah like every animal so like cows are cows are cute cows are delicious yeah baby cows are even cuter and veal is more delicious

well it's because it's sad and sadness is delicious right yeah the look you just made I don't like gamey meat veal is far from gamey well I'm more just eating like birds not that don't know not that i don't eat chicken and stuff but i just couldn't like i couldn't eat like a like the people that like get like whole fucking chicken like birds that are prepared and it's like basically just

de-feathered and it comes out on the table i couldn't i only did that once i went to a chinese restaurant here and i was like yeah i'll take the half roasted bird and they were like okay and they legitimately took a whole chicken chopped it and half roasted it and handed it to me and then i was like like brains and all like everything was just on the table well i mean it's all food technically right so i was just like well i don't know what to do with this so i'm gonna eat the part that i know is food right so i see what you're saying with that is yeah well i think we offended enough people. Time to move on. I brought up the Pokemon real quick.

You got a lot of anime in you, too. I got a good amount of anime. Especially Yu-Gi-Oh! despite never watching any. Yeah, again, I have a couple Yu-Gi-Oh! references that I use. You know, the Heart of the Cards. Always go for that. But I never watched Yu-Gi-Oh! references that I use. The Heart of the Cards. Always go for that.

But I've never watched Yu-Gi-Oh! all the way through. I've never watched a single episode of Pokemon. And I'm playing Pokemon Go and everything like that. So I somehow know so much about Pokemon despite never watching a single episode. I played... The last version I played was Silver version. Okay, so that would be on the console version, right? Not the Pokemon Go?

That was the Game Boy Color. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I was always willing to play the other ones. I just never got them or played them. So what is your favorite anime, despite... Sorry, what is your favorite anime despite sorry what is your favorite anime i'm asking for him uh gurren lagann never heard of it tell me more um all right oh this one it's fantastic intro song every episode gets more and more crazy than the last.

So it basically starts with a guy living in a hole and he's got to fight a big monster. And then the next episode he gets a cool robot mech suit thing, fights a bigger monster. By the last episode, they're like

throwing universes at each other. So it just gets more and more crazy yeah but there's a there's like two episodes that'll also make you cry um so it's like it's ridiculous and wild to like you know keep 12 year old boys watching but it's got fantastic character development too um and it's only like i want to say like 26 episodes total so you can just knock it out in just like one marathon. That's the good stuff. Yeah, none of this 18 seasons bullshit.

I am all caught up on One Piece. I gave up on One Piece. Because I was watching the live action. Never do the live action. Well, I just don't... Yeah. But I also don't like anime style animation. So the story literally has to grasp me enough to watch it.

That's why One Punch Man. I will watch One Punch Man with such dedication. Because even though I don't like the animation style, the storyline is so funny to me. It's so interesting. It was so good because you really care about the side characters. And then the other guy comes in and just... The main character is the comic relief. Yeah. really care about the side characters and then the other guy comes in and just just like the main character is the comic relief yeah yeah he's just he's mad he's mad that nobody is stronger than him

which i think is a really funny power lifting reference that's just like like you just oh you got to pick it up right it'd be like you're doing your top one rep max and he walks in he's like no you just got to pick that up. And he just lifts it and walks away. That's what training with Odehaugen is like. Got it. Yep. Yep.

All right. Yeah. Like, have you guys ever done power stairs? I've seen, I know what they are. I've never done them. They're probably brutal. It's like a T handle on like a bunch of stacked plates. And you have to pick it up and put it on like a, you know inch platform and then you got to step on the platform put it up another step

oh okay i've seen it and and basically ode he just he's like six foot eight he just stands up and it's at the height and he just puts it on the step god damn it everyone else you got to get all technical and like tilt it the right way lean into it lean back shrug your shoulders tuck your arms and there's a lot of technique and when he was showing me how to do it he's like oh you just pick it up and just put it on um you also can't understand him very well like he speaks english but it's like very heavily northern accents which is like oh you're just supposed to make and he's been and he's been here for like 50 years too, though. Hadn't he? And so it's not like, not like he's like,

like new to the country. So yeah. All right, Keith, you go ahead. I dominated a bit. I'm going to, I'm going to,

I'm going to hit you with a FMK. I'm going to take some of the things they said you were proud of. And I want to do a little FMK with them. Cause I find them all kind of enjoyable. I literally just lost where I was at though. But okay. FMK. Let's go with making

bread or baking, I guess. Do you make bread or do you bake bread? What's the difference? I guess, well, if you are still making, I guess you're making the... I don't know. He's not doing like Pillsbury top-ups here. He's

legitimately making bread. Making bread, wood woodworking brewing beer fmk who um three hobbies we hear you have yeah that's those are my top three hobbies right now um i'm gonna marry woodworking um because it's actually useful um although it's it's really not because you end up just um instead of making useful things you just make like workbenches so you can make better jigs so that you can make better workbenches so you can make better jigs um but technically you can make useful things so i'm'm going to marry that. Man, I really like beer, but people can do it better than me.

So I'm going to have to kill brewing beer. And then I'm going to get to business with the bread. It's soft and you can squeeze it. What type of... What's your go-to bread? it what type of uh what what what's your go-to bread uh right now uh i just started uh doing some sourdough i just got a sourdough started going on tuesday uh you had a lot of irons in the fire huh buddy no the other day i was i my one of the girls i just hired she's very into like that kind of stuff and i was like oh yeah and my wife is kind of she goes okay so how old is her sour stuff

how old is her sour starter her sourdough starter and i was like damn it so how old is your sourdough starter it's four days old all right yeah it's it's just started yeah um i haven't even given it a name yet apparently that's something you're supposed to do you're supposed to name your cyberdome yeah yeah um so i'll i'll take uh uh just just like the reddit names i'll just get the uh whatever people vote for on the on the discord i'll name it that so it'll be uh bready mcbreadface or something now put it in the wu-tang generator what is that so you take your name you go to wu-tang generator like it's just a rent you can google it and then you put your name in and it'll give you your wu-tang name

that's how childish gambino got his name and then that's i think that we don't use that enough around here to be honest with you. So you put your name in there and it'll give you a Wu Tang clan name. And that should be the name of, I think your, your sourdough. This one is probably not the right website. I'm not going to look at it now. Well,

I mean, I, I, we can always, does anyone ever call you a, you know, uh, you know, the cat jolene butt slapper or anything like that is that is that a name that's not what they call me that's

what they call my cat uh okay yeah uh so we got dixie and jolene uh the cats um and yeah one cat super skittish will run away if you like move the way. But if you come close to this chair, she'll jump up and just start meowing until you start slapping her. It's so random. Super weird. She's just like, I love pets, but only right here. Only in the safe space. Nice. We took our girls to go get a, they call it a, what is it?

A sanitary grooming. So basically got their assholes cut around and stuff because they're long-haired cats. And we've never had long-haired cats before. And we've had multiple instances of them having stuff stuck in their hair the next morning and us having to cut it out with scissors. And I don't want to do that anymore. So they bit the bullet and overpaid to have a vet tech do it. So hopefully that lasts a few months. There's a cat.

Oh, another cow cat. Is that Jolene?. There's a cat. Oh, another cow cat. Is that Jolene? That's Dixie. Hi, Dixie. So cute, Dixie. That's a good girl. She is a good girl. Thank you for noticing.

So I hear you like, you know, obviously you like doing the hikes around you, but you have some pet peeves while hiking to include, what was it? Speakers, dogs off the leash, and e-bikes. I can definitely get the first two. Is the e-bike just because you want them to be getting cardio in, or the e-bike actually do a deterrent to the trail somehow?

Yeah, just get off my trail. Yeah, it's get off my trail. If grandpa is using the pedal assist like keep up with his family. Totally fine. But it's like there's a lot of guys there. They're riding motorcycles. They're dirt biking where like people shouldn't be dirt biking. So they come around like, you know, at like 30 miles an hour, like on a single track trail that you know you don't expect them to

be there it's it's super obnoxious um yeah so like yeah and then uh again with uh i work for state parks is now they're getting super deep into the backcountry and like building all these jumps they can tow all this equipment like all their shovels and tools out there to build all these jumps and stuff where they're not supposed to be. So it's just really annoying. It would be definitely

tearing up the nice ecosystems just to be douchebags. That's not cool. Yeah. So did you end up ordering the coffee? The coffee collab from Mastnomics? I did not. Yes, so I understand there might be a reason for that.

It's probably because I'm a... I guess you'd say I'm a coffee snob. That's the exact wording in our notes. Yeah, and I definitely get the fresh roasted beans i grind them first thing in the morning before i make my cup um and then i do already have my coffee far before i see anybody which is good of course of course yeah um so you know maybe we don't talk about coffee enough on this podcast i prefer a dark roast even though it has a lower caffeine content right so can we discuss maybe uh what what do you like and and why um i i like a medium roast

i used to get a light roast because that was the first thing i had besides just black coffee from starbucks which i don't know if you know about like the whole starbucks thing where like their whole goal is to have a consistent cup so they get like the chart the charriest charred bean so that way it all tastes like ash i i heard that that was because there was a brief period of a coffee shortage and did a mold and what starbucks did was absolutely roast the shit out of it to kill the mold and then that became their brand was roast the shit out of all of their coffee so that it all just tastes like their pike place or whatever i think they call it is just blackened not even not even dark roast

blackened coffee um yeah so if you go to like a local whatever pick a local roaster they're probably trying to do a good thing you get their dark roast and it'll probably still be lighter than starbucks's light roast yeah um so like i should probably try like a good dark roast i rarely have um but also i've been drinking so much coffee and like then i still rock energy drinks and pre-workout so i've been trying to reduce my caffeine so that way like i can actually get a good hit of caffeine when i need it and not just because i'm in the habit of drinking coffee what's your what's your average caffeine intake uh it was i was having like probably like 40 grams of uh beans like made into coffee so like like two big cups of coffee plus pre-workout so like yeah so the coffee's milligrams a the coffee's 80 milligrams a day.

Coffee's 80 to 120, right? Depending on how it's roasted. Yeah. I usually say a hundred just for ease of. Of course. And then pre-workouts two to 400, depending on which monster you're taking. Yeah. So it was probably like 500 milligrams a day.

I'm almost up there now after being sick last week. milligrams a day i'm almost up there now after being sick last week i think today 200 100 plus the 140 so like today's probably the most caffeine i've had in a long time yeah so yeah i've been uh trying to reduce it a little bit just so i can have it when i need it uh and there was a matter when you need it like that's the thing is if you're always taking it it doesn't matter when you take it yeah right so if you scale back i i don't drink caffeine normally after 3 p.m yeah uh i've been starting to do that too uh if i have caffeine at like 4 p.m i won't be able to fall asleep um i i had a bit of a I had 100 milligrams at 4pm just because of the stupid day I had

and now I'll be up till midnight probably yeah Cody probably will be too, I hear he's a big reader so he's probably going to be up late reading books all night that's right no he's a big listener let's dive into that

because you know your your your partner talked about some brandon sanderson i want to get into in a second but at the top it was referenced that you are uh you pride yourself on listening to at books at 1.6 and like you know judging people for not i think i've calmed down a little bit on that um i think she just feels judged i just um i i don't like that it alters the voices so much and it's like it kind of because like uh you know as an avid audiobook listener like it's a production it's literally a movie like it's it's so much money invested in like getting voice actors to then like if you want to go one one one one two something like that one two five but like one six is just completely butchering the uh the reception of it i feel so i did go down to one two

for sanderson um because it was more of a production some like kind of one-off books when i'm like in between series i'm like i i'm just you know need a fun story i'm doing like 1.6 i'm like i gotta get through this or uh what is it the uh there's this stronger by science episode that's the one other podcast i listen to other than just books um fucking it was a six nice good man tron is here sorry i just got a comment from him and i was like what how do you know what we're talking about he joined without me noticing um yeah it was a six a six hour long podcast and i was like i need to do this at 1.6 uh i also do uh like i'll do some news podcast that's like a 10 minute like hey here's what's going on

stay informed and I'll do that at like 1.8 because I'm like I don't need their voices they're not doing anything fun they're just telling me hey the bank exploded today I can relate to that I don't have 10 minutes but I do have 7 and a half

that's right but uh to to get back to brandon sanderson definitely one of my favorite authors does that did you guys just discover him or was it more of a re-listen re-read because she specifically referenced the the cosmere books which was like a series so yeah it's i think they're at like 19 books or so yeah Yeah. Which I'm all caught up on. But it's... Sorry, I just lost my train of thought. It's... I started reading... Like, getting back into reading

about a year ago. Where I was like, oh, I should read a book or whatever. For no reason other than I was just... I was running out of other things that I was listening, oh, I should read a book or whatever. For no reason other than I was just... I was running out of other things that I was listening to. Because there was only... Some of the podcasts... I listened to like six to ten different lifting podcasts.

And now it all just sounds the same to me. So now I just have the two. Now it's just Stronger by Science for science-y stuff. And then massonomics for the fun stuff and you guys of course i guess we're not a lifting pod we're really not a lifting podcast we are definitely not yeah well just just like sanderson it's it now it's an expanded universe uh yeah there we go yeah good good good well i'm uh yeah it's definitely one of my favorite authors so it's always nice to chat about that for a little bit um what do we got uh are you going to take everybody out for ice cream when we're in aberdeen this uh summer and aren't and is it going to be on you because uh from what i hear

the hoffmans always pay hoffmans always pay for ice cream yep um i hope that doesn't get added to the itinerary um but you know i don't know if there's an ice creamery by the like if we're visiting like the kadoba rock or something um you know if we're in town and i'm and i'm in a cruber or something i'll definitely get you know'll definitely get a group ice cream. Just a bunch of us show up to one of the events. Like four of us have ice cream. Got little spoons with you.

I did that. I actually did that once. We were sitting in my friend's backyard and I turned to my partner at the time and I was like, oh, hey, I forgot. I think it was like the book of CDs. Remember back in the day where you had books of CDs? I was like, can you go get those? She's like, screw you, you, yeah. I was like, can you go get those? She's like, screw you.

You go. And I was like, fine. And on the way, I ran into the ice cream truck. So I came back without the CDs, but with ice cream. And she was like, where's my ice cream? I was like, screw you. Get your own ice cream. That's always one of my favorite jokes.

I want to hear about this idea that you thought you were going to make a really funny video about functional strength and throwing something away related to a bag toss and then you went to throw the bag and oh fuck um yeah i was at work and we just pulled like a bunch of invasive plants so So I had this big bag of trash. We're at a 40-yard dumpster. And it was right when we were getting into... I had just done some Strongman. It was the back toss.

My friend was just getting into Highland Games. And I was like, oh, I'm just going to send him how to how it really is functional and it really helps you in your day to day work and I take the bag and I like swing it get ready and my feet immediately slip on the gravel and I eat shit and dump trash all over me

and you didn't post that I bet I can find the video I will post it for you if I can get it what if you sent it to us and we posted it i can do that yeah that'll be your that'll be the instead of doing the normal like thumbnail with a description we're just going to post you eating shit because i think that would be fucking hilarious yeah uh yeah that's that's functional strength in a nutshell it's nothing the amount of strength

training every single person that listens to this is done is more than enough uh for life so uh why do you hate fruit it's different every time sorry i had to i saw the look on your face taking it back there for a second what do you mean yeah um so specifically cantaloupe but that's fair because cantaloupe is trash yeah um there's been some things where it's the texture for sure um like i like watermelon watermelon is good watermelon's top tier so then my fiance was like hey this honeydew is really good try a bite and i like put in my mouth, I take a bite, and I immediately gag.

Because it's just slimy and fiber. It was just slimy and weird, yeah. But then you never know what's going to get me because then strawberries don't have that texture, but I hate the flavor. You hate the flavor of strawberries? Yeah. I'm so scared of you right now.

They're so delicious i'm sorry um i wish i wish i like it could be a little tart i mean there are a hair tart and then if you get a you get a if you get a half rotten one too it's just like uh or in strawberries we get strawberries at the time they're so expensive and then like seven of them out of 30 will be edible and the next day they're all fucking rotten. And it's just like, it's just sucks. Yeah. Usually I just do like a, I'll get like the Costco bag of like frozen berries and then I'll just make

like a smoothie with that. And I'm like, all right, I got my fruits done. So I, I used to just take, um, instead of ice cream or whatever,

I would literally just eat frozen fruit. And I think I want to get my kids into that habit. That just like, you want a cold treat on a hot day here's a bowl of frozen berry because yeah i used to love chewing on that shit uh what about vegetables are you the same way for like carrots and celery and stuff because yeah me and uh celery and hot celery hummus and carrots i would eat that all day yeah uh big big broccoli and carrot fan um that's usually my go-to

meal prep is i'll just roast up a bunch of that and have it with whatever else i have for the week can't do broccoli myself but carrots like what is it about carrots that you're so consistent what's from i i know i was just uh i had i had about a half a bag of carrots yesterday with like a half a container of hummus it was so good obviously I should eat more carrots and less hummus but fuck I'd love a good hummus why would you eat less hummus? if I'm eating it at like 10 o'clock at night and I ate like 700 calories

when I eat half a container of expensive you're just sweating garlic 10 o'clock at night is a bit much I have it during the day it's a snack um so uh cody when you set up and you did the battle for the breaker did you get did you get anyone looking at you like you were a dipshit uh you did a pretty in-depth uh setup for your

battle the breaker contest you did a lot of you want to yeah just tell us how that went i guess um actually uh a bunch of the guys were like super willing to help me out at the gym oh nice we we have a lot of characters at our gym um so there's one guy uh sweaty mike sweaty mike yeah and here's that he's he totally owns it because he's got a type 1 diabetes so like he's always sweating he's also like five nine and like 240 pounds of like muscle um so he's got the bodybuilding sweatshirt on he's he's sweaty um so like when we've also got like five mics in our gym so people like oh i was talking to mike oh well which one oh sweaty mike and i

was like ah yes um anyways he'll walk into the gym and just be like he'll like poke his head through the door be like anyone doing anything cool people are just like training that and he just he'll just leave but i'm like oh uh i'm trying to do this thing with a stone and a deadlift bar and he's like oh uh what about like the the neck deadlift bar. And he's like, Oh, uh, what about like the, the neck trainer? And I'm like, he's like, we could like wrap a chain around that.

I'm like, all right, like I'm in, let's do it. So like he helped me get all, get all set up. Um, yeah.

Nice. Well, yeah, you're definitely at one of the, you know, one of the top 50, uh, you know,

creative ones. No, it definitely was. It was like, I think the first one to be posted, too. Which was pretty dope. I think it was the first one with the stones. I think the

teabag yoke was before me. The teabag yoke? He had the band with the sandbag right in his face while he carried the yoke. I forget who it was. No, that's probably true. Was it Matt?

No. I don't know. I'm not sure who Matt is. I've been doing this too long. Which Matt? Yeah, I don't know. They all sound the same. Who would...

Did you ever... Did you ever train when when Romark was there with martinez and could you beat uh ro mark at most strength events um we're pretty close actually um yeah he's he's pretty good like all the strongman stuff he did he was he was pretty good at um i'm trying to remember like we were deaf we were both trying to double overhand 500 at the same time. I don't think either of us ever got it.

But we were both close. Have you ever made it down to... What the hell is... What is the name of their gym? Wreck-It. Yeah, because he looks like Wreck-It Ralph. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Have you ever made it down there? Or is that a private training? I'm not sure if that's... It doesn't look like it's a public gym, but... It's, like, semi-private. Like, you can sign up and go do, like, a training session. But they're kind of a... But their big reason for setting up their own gym is they're, like, where he lives is, like, an hour from the training hall.

Or it takes, like, an hour to get there or something so that yeah with your guys's location they might only be like six miles away though uh yeah it's probably not that far away um i can pull it up really quick but um yeah he like he's super cool he comes and supports like when we do like la convention uh shows uh we usually do the it's like the all-american strength classic uh every year he usually shows up and helps judge or help support it is one hour and six minutes away and it's 43 miles away oh guys i mean that's yeah but that's a that's a uh seven at night here so it's traffic's already over yeah so when they were you know they were saying it literally took them like three hours to get to the training hall sometimes and traffic

like that's a little g yeah yeah that definitely makes sense to get your own gym then yeah we still get people that that travel quite a ways for like a strongman saturday and they'll drive for like two hours just to come and do events and then they'll hit their home gym for the rest of the week or something uh yeah i've really been enjoying the strongman as of late but it's still uh it's so expensive so just i guess consider yourself lucky you haven't had to get a home gym yet um they are you do you guys have any kind of like any setup at all or you stick strictly commercial gym so our garage right now is filled with uh like my table saw and workshop stuff

and then brewing supplies and beer fridge. You definitely would have to lose a hobby to... I would have to ditch a hobby to do the home gym. A few hobbies, it sounds like. I had some equipment when I lived with my parents

back in the day. I think there's still like a bar and some plates there if you know something ever happens and like i can't go to the gym anymore i'll have something but there's there's there's so many places out here there's a million commercial gyms there's a bunch of private gyms a lot of crossfits um so if i ever get bored of one thing there's something else i can do now have you ever tried to pay your membership with homemade trail mix no did you make home it was just more of a segue it was a bad segue apparently but look sometimes your segues are flawless and sometimes it's just like so apparently you're i was told to ask about your homemade trail mix

and that was my my unpaid way to do it i guess yeah uh again like uh working working for parks sometimes i have very long outdoorsy hikes and i'm deep in the woods and i only got so much backpack space so i'll buy uh like one of those like tubs from Target of peanut butter pretzels. And then I'll also buy a tub of peanut M&M's. And I'll just dump those all together and shake it up. And that's it. Okay, so you're not focused on, like, I need sodium

and I need sugars and I need proteins. You're just like, this tastes good, I'm gonna eat it. Yeah, it's garbage. I love the garbage. i actually got to help um sometimes i pretend to be a firefighter um for my job is like we do uh prescribed burns um but it's like we're not we're not real firefighters um but i got to go up there and do like some burning stuff and like so like we're not real firefighters um but i got to go up there and do like some burning stuff and like so like we're just watching like this line all day long and like all i have is is that trail mix and some pocket burritos um pocket burritos are important yeah so similar to pocket

rocks yeah to joy um no i get it but like i i actually pocket tacos and pocket pocket yeah i don't i don't know what you're talking about actually understand no you just literally just put tacos or burritos wrapped up in your pocket and you eat them as they go yeah someone and it's like worked in food service with all his youth that's definitely living in the danger zone a little too long oh it's absolutely in the danger zone. Yeah. You go to Taco Bell. Remember the old days you get to the family pack, right? You'd get the 10 for 10. You'd get 10 tacos for 10 bucks.

Well, you're not going to eat 10 tacos in one sitting. You're going to eat five of them and the rest are going to go in your various coat pockets. So as you're walking around, okay. No, I remember the one time we're walking around the mall and my buddy had pocket tacos he had four of them and we run into a guy we know and we're just like oh hey and my buddy goes hey man taco and just pulls a taco out of his pocket and hands it to this guy and the guy's like hell yeah and then just like we went on our way like that was just life for a second that's shane that was actually pretty funny of them um about your job briefly though so i know

you're that you dislike the e-bikes but has it ever been brought up if you're going for these long ass deep hikes you like would an e-bike be functional for you or you're like are you actually like hiking up mountains not just like yeah it's it's up mountains off trail mild rock climbing um okay it's it's the middle of soft trail, mild rock climbing. It's the middle of nowhere. Gotcha. As far in the middle of nowhere as you can be in Southern California. So I'm assuming you don't do any cardio in the gym then because your whole day is like 70% cardio.

Yeah, sometimes I have office days, some days I have field days, but I definitely don't do cardio outside of work. I've been trying to do a little bit, like at least some walks. Um, and then now that it is summer, uh, maybe I'll try to go swimming again. I used to be a swimmer in high school.

So I think Eddie Hall or Ed Cohn, one of them was a swimmer. So Eddie Hall. Yeah. Eddie Hall was a youth, uh, like a, it was like a very highly rated youth, uh,

swimmer before he got into a bunch of problems. Not criminal, but just behavior issues. He had his own documentary. I think he dropped out or something. I don't really remember. Go ahead. I was just going to say, I think swimming is good for you. There you go. how do you deal with

ticks do you have ticks out in california yeah um i think the most ticks i've had on me was 160 what the fuck fuck um overrated or underrated lyme disease like at once uh throughout the day throughout the day. Throughout the day. So yeah, not all at once. I flicked them as I went. Jeez. But yeah, I think Lyme disease is... The thing is, it is horrible, but it is a little underrated.

Yeah, it's this weird thing where... Don't get bit. They're so scared of it out here. Yeah. And we get ticks in the house yeah right like they'll just i think one showed up on like the diaper genie one day my wife had a fucking panic attack and it's like look if lyme disease happens it's terrible but the odds of it happening are so slim that you need to stop focusing on it as a problem but 160 ticks is too many cody there's by like 159

one of the uh it's one of the early family guys where they're like uh oh look wake up stewie's covered in fleas oh yeah well in my day i was covered in ticks yeah it's not a competition it was when it was back then he had the picture yep yeah um i have seen a couple videos uh of like people on like the appalachian trail at like the worst time of the season and it's like all the i forget the word uh i should know this i'm a biologist uh the little baby ticks um but those those ones like someone like came across like an egg egg i don't i don't know much about tick biology but the egg case opened and then they were covered in like thousands of microscopic ones so like they couldn't even they had to like get it off with like duct tape or like

a lint roller jesus yeah no no i as somebody who likes to hike in kilts, I'm very aware of ticks. Yeah, it's stupid. They like warm, dark places. They crawl up until they find one of those. Yep, no, I've had a few. Yeah. Knock on wood, haven't had no Lyme diseases yet, but... Yeah.

Damn! I'm glad I brought that up. Obviously, I want to ask about pro wrestling. I don't know much about pro wrestling. I don't know much about pro wrestling. I don't know much about mass wrestling. Well, then I won't. It's in the notes somewhere that says you might be interested. It was Olympic wrestling, mass wrestling, pro wrestling, FMK.

But I think it was more of a... Did you have an Olympic background? Did you wrestle or anything in high school? Or was it youth? No. I think it was just because I did something wrestling. There's been a lot of wrestling talk over the last couple weeks.

I know. It bores everybody but me. Okay, I'm going to move in. I want to do Mount Rushmore. Can I Mount Rushmore him? Yeah, but... Can I hit him with the old Mount Rushmore that Daner invented? Yeah. Somebody. All right. can i hit him with the old mount rushmore that game that tanner invented somebody all right so mount rushmore and this is one that i again i think this is going to be a really good episode for me and my wife uh mount rushmore my laugh uh trader joe's snacks oh love me trader joe's me too wait do you have trader joe's in

canada no i literally drive down to new york for trader joe's once a financial quarter okay now i did hear sorry but i will get into the mount rushmore but real quick uh i did hear that there is a such thing as pirate joe's in canada is that true i've never heard of it no we have a whole foods okay but yeah Joe's in Canada. Is that true? I've never heard of it. No, we have a whole foods. Okay. But yeah, it was basically somebody would just go and do a big Trader Joe's run and

like sneak it up and then sell it out of their little pirate shop. Oh, nope, nope, never. Not me. Okay. I'm an adult with a passport.

I'll just go to Trader Joe's. Sure. Maybe if you're further from the border, I guess. Or if you just can't cross the border. Yeah. That makes sense. No, I mean, I'm in good standing with the border agency, so I can just cross when I want to. Trader Joe's snacks.

The rolled corn tortilla, like the talky type things. Trader Joe's snacks the rolled corn tortilla like the talky type things you know what I'm talking about great chips the white cheddar puffs white cheddar corn puffs they're way better than

Pirate's Booty they don't have that weird crunch in the middle they're just solid, like the same poof all the way through the maple cookies or the maple cream cookie or something they look like a little maple leaf yep that's so fun because we just have those up here as like a regular thing so we wouldn't buy them down there because i'm'm not going to, right. Cause we have to like, you can't have over $250 worth of stuff if you're traveling over less than 24 hours. So like,

I'm not going to buy something I can get here in Canada, but that's so, yeah, they are down there. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Um,

final snack. I'm like going through the aisles in my head. Hey, stand by. He's going through the aisles in my head. Alright, stand by. He's going to go get it. Hey babe, what do I like to eat? What do I like to eat, babe? The chocolate-covered peanut butter pretzels. I was talking about my

trail mix. It's basically that. That makes sense. They're so good. I usually have to buy two bags because I'll eat one whole bag the moment I get it. When I was down there, I'm going to say not the last time, because I think the last time was when I stopped at Keith's. The time before that, they had peanut butter oats. And it was like a half a cup had like 26 grams of protein. It was ridiculous. and i got those i i i ate those forever and then i forgot about them so they're in the thing now but that's good that's

good list i'll add those to the list for next time we come down yeah they could get that canadian cookie you've never had yeah i would like to see a comparison and be like, this is the worst maple cookie I've ever had. Yeah. Like I eat it from Trader Joe's and I'm just like, ah, you Americans, you don't even know. Cody,

I, uh, so we, so we got some nicknames, but one that stuck out to the, the, the most to me that, uh,

I'm just trying to figure out why it's, uh, has anyone's last time someone called you one cheeseburger? Um, that happens every once in a while and what's the lore on that one that's a unique name it's more bird stuff um okay

a lot of people that like go hiking and like go backpacking uh it's not a pocket cheeseburger is it it's not a pocket it's the same it could be it kind of uh but trail names are a real like okay thing that people do so when i'm out camping with my friends and we we have trail names uh they call me one cheeseburger because that's the uh the like mnemonic that's the wrong word but that's the the sound that they say for uh the mountain chickadee

which is a little bird so it's like when you're out there and it's like and it's like one cheeseburger okay okay yeah um are they just saying chickadee chickadee not the mountain chickadee they say one cheeseburger that's hilarious yeah it is interesting i enjoyed that um probably i got one more story we can maybe be able to segue into something else where did it go uh the audition for his best man for his wedding was there uh did you put your boys through a rigorous test to see if it could be your best man that's gonna happen in august uh is we are having a tournament of champions to determine the best man.

All right. What is the parameters of this? Is it a skill of strength or wit or what is the... A little combination of everything. Think Dungeons and Dragons character sheet. You know, we got to see their athletics and strength and charisma. So we're going to be doing like... Have you guys played Jackbox yep no uh so one of the games is you have to like it come up with an invention and do a present

presentation on it so they're going to do that we're going to play super smash um uh we're going to do a keg carry uh i'm going to slap my fiance's's giant face on it and have them carry it over maybe some obstacles, maybe just as fast as they can. We're going to do a beer mile, which is going to be fun because I don't think any of us run. Yeah,

that sounds ridiculous. I'm going to score them on everything, and then the winner is going to be the best man. Nice. How big of a pool of people is this? I'm kind to score them on everything. And then the winner is going to be the best man. Nice. So is this what, how big of a pool of people is this? Cause like, I'm kind of thinking like you have, you have that many guys that you'd be okay with being your best man.

I mean, it's, it's, it's called your best man. It's not called favorite man. But I meant like, these are people that would be at your wedding either way. These are all,

uh, this is all group. I almost missed and fell. Did you see that? That's hilarious. Best man, not favor man. That's the episode title. It is best man. Yeah, time stamp that one, somebody.

I dig it, Annette. It's really good. So before we get on, I guess one more that I want to touch base on really is just so obviously you're doing the Lift Hard, Live lift hard really busy strong and we touched about that briefly earlier uh how do you think you'll do what kind of numbers because a lot of it's like rising bar and then the deadlift for reps like what did you have goals what do you think is the outcome for your individual lifts of that that you want to share because you know you if you want to play close to your chest you know you have your druthers as well.

It seems like everyone's been playing it close to their chests, but I'm just going to lay it out there. I'm going to call, I'm going to call them and see, see what numbers we're looking at. For log, I'm looking, I'm either,

I think it was 20 pound jumps. I think I saw that somewhere. So I'm either going to do, I'm either going to do, I'm either going to do, cause I assume it's three attempts. Yes. Three attempts rising. I think I'm going to go to 20, 240,

260. Nice. But if I'm feeling good, I might go to 40, 260, 280. It's a big, it's a big,

280 would be a big PR. Yeah. For stones. yeah for stones Jake was just asking about raising the stone weight again if he raises mine I'm just not going to do it because I can't fucking I can do the 240 for like 3 reps

over like maybe 3 reps but probably not I think it was for the big men I think there is a big spread in strength like maybe maybe three reps but probably not i think it was for the big men oh yeah yeah because i think i think there is a big spread in strength um because i think some people are cutting down a bit to 250 um and then a couple people are just monsters um so at two i think it's 250 or 260 the the stone was um so that i could probably do a good handful oh because you're in the you're in the small yeah the big man was 240 yeah so i think it's pretty close i think it's probably yeah 260 um so i think they were talking

about maybe going to 300 which uh after carries and deaths i don't know the mystery carry of that's kind of yeah that that would be a nervous wait for me um but you know it'll be there on me day i don't remember what do you remember the weight on your mystery carry because i'm trying to remember if it was a loadable i think it was around 250 260 yeah i think mine i think it was something like that 20 or 240 so maybe it is the same and it's just not loadable and it's i'm not i i'd be surprised if everybody got a different mystery thing because oh no yeah but i meant like if it's something that is plate like if it's just a stock weight at like a 150 and then you get some plates

on it like i don't know That's what I'm imagining. Implement that is just weighs 250 pounds and everyone has to carry it. There's no way. Because the big women would have to do that. That's true. I didn't think about that. So it's got to be something loadable. And I think they said like 180. So it's probably a 180 that's loadable.

Or maybe it's two things. Maybe it's a light and a heavy thing. We will find out in a few weeks. It's just a giant drink spotter calling it now it's a giant human sized drink spotter and they just add flats to it

to get the weight up sparkling water nice so yeah I'm gonna carry it as far as I can I don't measure but yeah let's just throw out a But yeah, let's, let's just throw out a number two 60 log. Let's say 150 feet carry.

Let's say eight reps on the deadlift. And what's your weight at the 18 inch for your, for your division? Five 85. Fuck dude. I broke my 500 once and it was brutal. I tried to get 540 and it was stable to the ground yeah I think that one is like

setting up wrist straps might slow me down but then it's like I can't just rep fest it all day oh yeah that's ridiculous he said that basically to clarify anyone doing the deadlift competition

the timer starts with hands off of the employee. Like you have to, so we're over, I'm hoping my, my, my, my, uh,

Versa grips will come in handy as long as Jake is. I asked Jake about it. He never gave me a solid answer. So if he tries, I can't, he tries to tell me I can't use them. I'm just going to just, I guess I'm going to use them anyway.

I mean, what? Yeah. Are you going to like not get to go to nationals because of it? Yeah, but I guess some of my buddies would be careful using those because they might, some events might not let that, but. I can't imagine, like, if figure eights are allowed, those should be allowed. It's just. I just can't imagine that they're not allowing Jefferson deadlifts.

Yeah, that's kind of wild. 18 inch Jefferson deadlifts. I don's kind of wild jefferson deadlift i don't know if that would be i guess i don't know like it really would make it harder i guess i know some people said i've well i don't even have 18 inch legs like i can't the shorter people i think well shorter people have art because um i want to say the 18 inch deadlift is actually really advantageous for me and then like chris mark was like six two six three it's like not for him yeah there's something about like the leverage of like where it puts him it's just not as good whereas like i

can lift like 60 more pounds or more on the fucking 18 inch deadlift is, like, almost, like, a hundred pounds stronger. It's just I have, like, the right leverage. I used to wakeboard a lot, so, like, I know how to, like, lean on the right leg the right way. How tall are you? Five.

Five ten? Okay. Good deal. As long as you beat Matt at everything. Sam might be a little ahead of you. We'll see. But you definitely can beat Matt, I think. We're talking big Matt mostly squad videos. I suppose.

Someone's got to talk about him. He won't show up here, so we got to talk about him. I'd be surprised if he comes to Aberdeen. That man likes to bail on things, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right. surprise even comes aberdeen you know on all that man likes to bail on things right all right should we move into unpaid and underrated yeah it's just a game we like to play i always butcher the uh explaining it and big cody you said you've listened every episode so why don't you explain unpaid and underrated to our uh anyway if we have any new listeners so unpaid and underrated is a game that uh big keith made up uh you may have heard it get popularized by the massonomics podcast they call it uh overrated underrated um so basically uh underrated means underrated And unpaid means overrated.

I don't know if you've said the rules on this. Are the questions lightning round? Nope. They're not lightning round. You have your druthers. But we still have our druthers. We're good. All right.

So I'll pick a couple of these out here. Unpaid or underrated? A good pen. Ooh. A good pen is so underrated. I get the Zebra Sarasa pens. You guys ever use the G2s? Yep.

You don't know anything about pens. I use a pen every day at work. This is a pen my boss buys. But I do. When he buys the ones that are like fucking triangles, I'm like, this is the dumbest thing you've ever done. Like give me my, give me my round pin back dummy with like the gel grip.

Yeah. So it's the gel, it's the gel grip and it's got like good ink that dries fast enough, but it's like, it's good. It's legible. Um, a good pen,

you do good work with it. Um, like it, if you got you got one that's super inky, it smears everywhere. You don't even know what you wrote after that. Absolutely. What are those cheap clear plastic ones where you can see the ink on the inside with a ballpoint at the end? I think Bic makes them.

They're shit. Garbage. They're shit. The Zebra ones are top tiers whatever zebra is doing yeah zebra zebras the zebras the go-to pens um and you you can still get a ballpoint or a gel pen whichever you like better um and then the uh uniball does the good rollerball pens so those are the i should have done a mount rushmore pens it was suggested to like be an fmk or mount rushmore so i i use a pen every day at work

to fill out paperwork and like yeah i enjoy a good pen i just you know we've we've had a good batch lately so i haven't had to really put too much thought in it so weirdly last year for christmas um morgan's family i got drawn because we do like the random drawing, right? The Secret Santa. I got a good pen and I was like, you get me, you get me. And then Morgan broke it. But like, yeah, I love a good pen. Like a good solid write, dries quick.

What I don't like if it's too clumpy. Like if you like a good pen you understand what i mean clumpy is bad it just slides well yeah yeah uh and then yeah number two here big code i'm gonna i'm gonna circle back to something we never touched based on earlier so it's not actually in our list but okay so unpaid or underrated rescuing uh animals from your gym um it's a little unpaid um like it's cool like you know of course i'm the guy for it i've rescued like two hummingbirds two lizards uh and a squirrel and I think there's some bats living in some of the upper

rafter things, there's a little sheet and it looks like where a bat would live I have not rescued it but yeah it's like, as cool as I feel helping I don't want animals to get trapped in our gym because they

are terrible at finding their way out and we're dropping heavy weights. And yeah, um, the, the animals that are in the gym that I like are the dogs. Uh, you gotta have a good gym dog,

uh, or, uh, a gym cat. Uh, um, I think it's big Murph has a gym cat. She does just to,

yeah. And I, she's the orange boys are very very yeah big fan nice um i was gonna ask about you you training with your cats at your home gym but like we already said you didn't have a home gym so you actually might be one of the first or one of the more recent like non-home gym having well i guess we've had a few but it's just like so many of us have it i forget sometimes that people do like have to go to real gyms to train sometimes it is it is like five minutes down the road that helps then for sure and and i like i i like volunteer there so like

i'm there a lot um what does uh i'm just out of curiosity because you are in california everything's more expensive in california what is a you know monthly membership at you know a prominent powerlifting gym or a strongman gym and more or less la cost uh any specialty fitness thing is gonna probably be on the low end 100 bucks a month and on the high end like like there's some crossfits that are like 250 a month or something or more i've never even looked beyond that um yeah but i could see that happening that's a that's a real number um and then our commercial gyms are probably the same it's you know planet fitness is like 10 bucks 24 and fitness 19 i don't know what the like global locations of those are in golds they're

all going to be in like the like 30 40 50 or special deal but then it's all split up and like sign up costs and cancellation costs and they steal your credit card yeah you end up you end up paying when you when you put pen to paper you end up paying a board on the back end so yeah all right uh unpaid or underrated my last one here vitamins what do you think about vitamins oh vitamins um vitamins are uh unpaid um i people like they're they are super cheap so it's like if you just get some costco vitamins like nothing bad will happen to you but like you're you're probably just paying for like expensive colored pee um so you're saying my my daily men's multivitamin doesn't do anything probably not

if your diet was better, they would do nothing. If your diet is shit, do them. I see that. There really is no, like, consequence. So it's like, maybe it might help a little bit, or it'll do nothing. Yeah. But, you know, everyone's always trying to, like, sell, like, oh, this is the, I need, oh, folic acid. That's what the thing's going to be.

Now my deadlifts will go up 100 pounds. And it's like, now you just got to consistently eat somewhat better, lift somewhat harder, et cetera, et cetera. All the stuff we know. Now I give my kid his multivitamins because he's five. Yeah, I think the... Do they still have Flintstone vitamins? Yeah, buddy. Hates them. Hates them.

He wants the gummies. Doesn't want the crunchies. He wants the gummies. Kids these days. I know, eh? Gen Alpha or whatever they're called. I loved the weird chalk Flintstone vitamins. Yeah.

Because they mattered. Yeah. So, yeah. If a doctor recommends it it's probably that like so like the children's vitamins make sense and then like a specific vitamin when you got like a blood test and the doctor's like hey you're low on iron you need to take an iron supplement when you said folic acid if you're pregnant if you're a pregnant lady fucking take your folic acids but if you're just like a generally healthy 40 year old man just eat properly and you'll be

fine yeah maybe if the last time you had a leafy green was like 10 years ago maybe maybe look into it i don't i don't have the best of diets so i think i'll keep eating my vitamins for now oh no i'm not here to talk you out of them. Just, yeah. They're not the end-all, be-all. I'm with you on that one, Cody. Oh, yeah. It's just a...

Except, except, I still stand by electrolyte supplements. I rock electrolytes. I was sweating buckets today. Absolutely. Yeah. It's the... We act up. I was at my kid's end-of-day day party and I was talking to

some parents and I was just like do you take electrolytes because they're like no oh do you find yourself tired and sore a lot yeah just take your electrolytes just invest the money trust me take them for 30 days and you will thank me alright I guess that's my turn

yes sir hell yeah unpaid or underrated Malibu I guess that's my turn? Yes, sir. Hell yeah. Unpaid or underrated? Malibu. Malibu is so unpaid. There's not a line there at all. Malibu sucks.

Everything. Like, the people are horrible. Like, It's... I can't think of a single good thing about it. There's better beaches anywhere else. Just head north or south and get to a better beach. Let's see. Everything's super expensive there. Even if you were just out there for

the day like all of your food's going to be more expensive even just chipotle or something's going to be more expensive is it tourism tax tourism tourism tax um and then it's just like there's such this dichotomy of like rich and poor where it's like you know there's like this like super crazy house that's like behind like all these bushes and a wall and then like a bunch of homeless people sleeping in front of it and i'm just like this like this sucks uh so yeah i i go some the you know we have a couple parks in malibu that i go do to work out sometimes but otherwise i i stay away from there so i've only ever been to san francisco and cupertino i've never been anywhere else in california so i don't have much opinion

on that place but it's a it's a big state yeah so it's like you go to one place and you know you can't say cal is blank. Yeah. And Cupertino's, I had to look it up. It's in the Bay area. So it's to me, that's the same as San Francisco. Yeah,

no, no, it's an hour drive. Yeah. But we, that's where Apple is right there in Cupertino. So that's why I was there. Okay.

Unpaid or underrated bald Eagles. Ooh. I think they're unpaid. Really? I love bald eagles. Yeah, apparently. That's the game, though. If I see a bald eagle, I'm still going to be like, wow, cool, bald eagle.

But I think people if i see a bald eagle i'm still gonna be like wow cool bald eagle um but i think you know people people rile them up too much they're like oh it especially in america that's the epitome of freedom yeah um except bald eagles sound like do you know what a bald eagle sounds like off the top of my head no but i'm sure i've heard them good we do have a few around here yeah because people imagine like the a red-tailed hawk that's the sound they use like tv shows yeah yeah right like that's a red-tailed hawk which earlier i said is the best bird yeah bald eagles are more like yeah so like bald eagles are uh i guess visually when you see them they're all show or like on on tv they're all show but they're no go no they're stupid um did you ever see that one

thing in alaska where they were showing it and then it found a crab and then yeah yeah and then the crab like attacked it and it panicked and fell into the ocean. Yeah. It's like the best video. I did see, I was at like a zoo and they were doing like an owl show. And everyone talks about, oh, the wise old owl. The owls are idiots. The owl's eyes are so big that they have teeny tiny brains.

Yeah. And so like right after they said it it was like the owl got upset and it just like flew away from the whole show and up into a tree but it still had the leather leash on and like it tried to eat the leash thinking it was a snake but it couldn't stand on one foot and it like fell into the poison oak bushes below um and all the trainers had to like go and like hunt for it like uh anyways the show's over uh what the owl number one predator they're not is cars because they're so stupid that they fly in front of cars all the time like just anyway we could talk birds all day yeah i sure could um

but that is the sad thing is that we say animals are stupid because they can't get out of the way of people we're in their fucking world like yeah so it's like oh they couldn't they they were so dumb to not uh not get run over by cars that have only existed for like you know 150 years yeah this big giant little box that kills everything it runs over. Or dodos were on this one little island and they couldn't

handle getting shot in the face so we call them stupid. Because we shot them all to death. I remember learning about that. I never considered that. The poor dodo. That's okay, we'll bring it back one day. The poor Dodo. That's okay. We'll bring it back one day.

Jurassic Park's coming. All right. Unpaid or underrated? Platypuses everywhere. Platypuses. Hey, yeah. You know about the platypus lore on Unpaid and Underrated? Yes.

About how Keith just learned they existed. And then the other day, he made a comment about it. He said he could fight a platypus, and I had to inform him that platypus are actually venomous. What the fuck? It's just wild. That one animal,

when you think you know something about animals, the platypus is like, you don't know a thing about me or my time. Yeah. It's a really good example that in any profession, the more of an expert you are, the more you're like, we don't know anything.

Yeah. The platypus venomous lays eggs and is going to mess with your whole life. Alright, I can move on. Unpaid or underrated? is not the letter right so european honeybees in america are a real problem but native bees are like having problems because of those ones so i assume when you say bees you think honeybees so i would say that those are no i mean i mean so i heard that you you hate invasive bees i do hate invasive i also hate invasive bees

to the point where i've now started to appreciate hornets to an extent because there's also invasive hornets yes yeah so yeah just in general save the bees in general save the bees is unpaid because people don't know what they're talking about um because by doing like by saying that generality like they're just like oh save the beat like let's this this one's gonna catch some flack as uh let's you know people just giving farmers more subsidies i'm like no like let's let's switch it up let's uh find some other way to pollinate crops because native bees can pollinate crops better um i'm i'm not an agronomist um but i do know about bees um so like they have they've had these like test plots where they do like one where they like bring

in like uh honeybees and they like have them pollinate the crops and they have this other one where they put native plants around and let just nature do its thing and those were able to pollinate that that crop better when you have like a monoculture over like you know thousands of acres maybe it doesn't work that well um so i don't want to say like i have like the perfect global answer of like just just get rid of them but um we should treat them more like farm animals and not just be like oh save the bees and plant random flowers all over the place no plant flowers that belong in that uh habitat or in that place so like california flowers should be in california um and like east coast flowers should be on the east coast etc etc um so what would be the

difference between a bee that i would see and a bee that is a native bee um depending on where you're at i assume most people are in the big bumblebee yeah big bumblebee those are good probably um i i don't want to say that there's no invasive bumblebees i don't i don't know if any um but like all the bumblebees you see they're good boys they're good they're good little bubbles little bonkers they just bonk into stuff yeah they're big dumb idiots sometimes they're so chonky they like land on a flower and the whole thing I'll just fall over. We love them. We love them. There's other bees and I don't need to have this turn into a whole bee podcast.

I'm actually in just so you know, there's leaf cutter bees. And so like a lot of bees have fuzzy legs to catch the pollen. Yeah. But these ones have fuzzy tummies. So it catches all the pollen on the tummy. Then they cut like a little slice out of a, pollen on the tummy then they cut like a little slice out of a out of a leaf and they build like a little nest in a hole and then they like lay

their eggs and uh that's about their whole life um so look up leaf cutter bees and basically if you do some gardening at home and you see like little stuff cut out of your flowers or like out of, out of all your stuff, no, you're doing a good job because that means you created habitat. Like if, if you try to kill everything in your garden, like what's,

what's the garden even for? Yeah. Bugs are good. That's the thing is everybody's like, we got to kill all the bugs in the garden. And it's like, you know, the bugs are there because like they should be,

you can wash the fruit. Relax. Yeah. Yeah. But if you have too many bugs, maybe there's another, maybe you don't have enough relax. Yeah. But if you have too many bugs, maybe you don't have enough birds. Yeah. Probably because there's too many...

If you're in the suburbs and everybody has an outdoor cat, they're probably killing all the birds. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Save the bees is unpaid. Save the bees is unpaid. Bees in general are good, though. Yeah. I would say honeybees as a farm animal is fine.

All the other bees you should like look for in the wild and be like, oh, cool. A little bumbly boy. I love bumblebees. They're so fucking dumb. They just bonk and everything. They do. They say oops. They do.

They found like when bees bump into each other, they go, oh. So Midwest. All right. Last one. they found like when bees bump into each other they go oh so midwest all right last one unpaid or underrated the merlin bird app merlin bird app is underrated hell yeah it's not perfect like none of the apps are can't be but it's probably better than not knowing anything. You can make it listen for birds. And it's again, it's pretty good. It's not perfect. But yeah, next, like, you know, if we all start getting into like those like 10 minute walks that like a lot of the strong men are pushing for like our cardio. Listen for some birds while you're out walking. I usually my wife and I, we get up in the morning're out walking. I usually,

my wife and I, we get up in the morning. She does. I'm not so good at it, but we'll just sit in the backyard. The kids will stay inside and eat their breakfast and we'll just run the app for 10 minutes and see who we can pick up. Right.

And so for those that don't know what the, what the bird app is, is you just run your microphone and it listens to every bird in the area and it tries to identify it for you. And then if you can say, yes, I saw this bird, you can identify the bird and it sends it to the, I forget the college or whatever you. Cornell. It is. It's Cornell. Yep.

Yeah. And it tells them like this bird is in this area. So it's really cool during migrations because you can also track the migrations of birds. They'll send you and be like, hey, these birds are coming your way. See if you can track them. So it is really neat.

It's one of my favorite things to do when I'm out hiking. Yeah, definitely fun for the kids, too. Yep. But hey, go find 10 birds before you come in and play video games that's not a bad idea alright I think you passed

unpaid and underrated indeed so I think we move on to do you have something for us today I have a couple short categories of games do it so first one I got an FMK short categories of games. Do it. So

first one I got an FMK. FMK not leaving it on the table. Not holding back. And locking it in. We gotta as far as holding back for the mate,

I'm assuming it's like a... You can't hold anything back. Yeah, no holding back, but there's also no leaving things on the table. And then some people have been locking in lately. And so I guess I'll go marry, no holding back, right?

I can't hold anything back. And kill... What are the other two? No holding back, right? I can't hold anything back. And kill... What are the other two? No leaving things on the table. I'll fuck that one because the other one I didn't resonate with. I don't think it's... Locking in.

Yeah, I'll kill locking in I think and fuck the table. Okay, I thought we were gonna be like, not the not doing it, but the positive doing it. Yeah, so I'm gonna kill

holding anything back, because you can't hold anything back. I'm gonna marry locking it in, because I can't wait to lock it in. And I'm going to fuck, what was the other one? Leaving it on the table. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck leaving it was the other one? Leaving it on the table. Yeah, I'm going to fuck leaving it on the table because sometimes you gotta leave it on the table.

Yeah. Because I am the table. It only took a carpenter hobbyist to get the two hosts to fuck a table. What's so smooth? I'll show you what to do with this moss stick. In the same theme of the

FMK, but instead of FMK, it's Slap, Lick, or Fondle. We got Brian, Tango Charlie, and Steffi Cohen.

Oh, that's dangerous dangerous I can't oh god I thought I had my answer but I can't it's not fair I don't know how many of those people are I can't fondle or lick Steffi so I'm going to smack the shit out of her I guess

and then not her fondle or lick Steffi, so I'm going to smack the shit out of her, I guess. And then, uh, not her. Fondle. Hmm. I guess I'll... Fuck, I hate you. This sucks. Joey Swole is listening.

I guess I'll fondle Tango Charlie because to me, fondling, I can do that really aggressively and hurt him. And then licking is essentially saliva so I'll spit in Brian's face okay let's go slap Tango Charlie cause

they continue to fuck around yeah fondle stuffy because I kinda know who she is and she screwed around a bit. Like calm down. Um, what was the other one? Lick.

Let's look, Brian, like Brian, Brian gave us so much content, so much reason to engage so much fun. Come on back, buddy. Come on back. We'll get him uh and then the last one uh i got is a unpaid or underrated uh slutty short summer underrated hook me up with slutty shorts five inches is almost too long that's what she said um yeah no underrated i guess i don't know i i used to like short shorts but i'm a little heavier now so my legs don't look no underrated i guess i don't know i i used to like short shorts but

i'm a little heavier now so my legs don't look as good so i guess currently yeah i'll go currently unpaid then yeah because i don't want to see my legs that much i need to get loose 50 pounds before i can see my quads again i think the stronger you get the shorter your shorts get i think there's a correlation there i don't do two leg days a week to wear cargo shorts. Fuck that noise. Alright, well, it looks like that was a hell of an episode.

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