Unpaid And Underrated - 065 : Madkow Adjacent

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Madkow. They dive right into some great topics like Joey's love for bots, sitting while peeing, grip sports, volleyball, what is a pepperette, and werid meat. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @_madkow_ (https://www.instagram.com/_madkow_/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Madkow.

and welcome back to episode 4040 of the unpaid and underrated podcast we are a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith joined as always by big joey hey uh my light's not working oh well to call you Big Tanner, I guess. I got the lights off. Turn them off and record in the dark. And we're joined this week by a special crew guest, Big Mad Cow. I'm assuming that's what you want us to call you tonight, buddy? Sir.

All right. All right. We'll rock with the Big Mad Cow. So let's go ahead and fire it off. What are you drinking tonight there, Mr. Mad Cow? Yeah, I was going to do a can reveal. I'm not. Okay. go ahead and uh fire it off uh what are you drinking tonight there uh mr mad cow yeah i was gonna do a can reveal i'm not okay i'm thinking uh i don't know maybe you guys have heard of this one but uh it's uh it's pretty out there it's pretty niche so i guess i'll just litter it

little bush latte i like it and that was a bush heavy oh no oh yeah i was wrong yeah there you go and uh correct me if i'm wrong but i think that's the first time that anyone's uh revealed their cans on the episode gotta keep it fresh uh two of them were frozen two of them were in the back of my mini fridge frozen i put all three of them under hot water and now two of them are warm and one's room temperature that sounds horrible i haven't drank a warm temperature bush again since i was probably like 14 so that doesn't enjoy that one tonight yeah i do i prefer my throwback i prefer my bush hot um i'm drinking the keats as usual i'm still on vacation actually from the lift card. Live easy. I went on vacation. 17 of your vacation.

I know. I went to the company for like 10 years and they're like, you have, you have so many hours. And I was like, you know what? Two and a half weeks. I'm out of here.

I don't want to think about this job for, I'm so jealous for three weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I'm rocking a Wegmans lime. Uh, life's just been crazy crazy i think it's like the third week i don't know i've had this thing several times but there's only like four or five that i like so i'm gonna have a lot of repeat uh uh drinks i did uh actually tonight

though i had uh before drinking this uh similar to it what's in the can uh i ate gin gin hook with a meat stick one of those uh bison ones is it epic i think is the brand of them i've had those before um really good extremely tender it's like i would it's not even like jerky it's just like it's so moist so appreciate that you know what's funny is i almost added to the notes um the weirdest meat you've ever eaten because uh mad cow do you eat meat? Okay. I don't know if I have a lot of moist meat sticks laying around like teeth. I just didn't know if, like, imagine me adding that, and you're like, no, I don't eat meat.

This is a stupid topic. So I recently went. I had this fancy tofu once. I went to a farmer's market, and one of my favorite things is game meat, where you just go and buy, like, the weirdest thing they have and i ended up buying crocodile uh pepperettes and my kids loved them to a shock and i was like you guys know this is crocodile and they were like sure it is dad so i was just wondering like what is the most out there meat that you think you have eaten?

It's funny that you brought up the bison thing. Cause I didn't get that from Jen. I think it's coming, but, um, yeah. So, well,

what's the most out there meat that you think you've eaten? Hmm. You got to be neck. It's a, you know, buddy. No, I haven't eaten it.

I haven't eaten anything too crazy. I've had bison burgers and probably nothing too wild. Yeah, I think I'm right there. Like bison, it's not super weird. But for me, I didn't have bison until the last few years. Honestly, I think I had lamb for the first time a few years ago. I don't like gamey dark meat. I think dark Thanksgiving turkey is disgusting. I can barely tolerate white meat on turkey. years ago not if i just i don't like gamey dark meat like i refuse like i think thanks get dark

thanksgiving turkey's disgusting i can barely tolerate white white meat on turkey like i just i don't like gamey i mean deer i guess i don't know i've had venison growing up and stuff um that's probably more rare i don't know would venison be more rare rare ish or uh than bison i don't know no no well depends where you are right like as you get to the plains bison. I don't know. It depends where you are. As you get to the plains, bison is more readily available. I've had bison burgers in Colorado at a restaurant. I've never had venison at a restaurant.

Just like my friends. Venison stew, venison jerky. I think I've mentioned it before maybe on the podcast, and I'm sure one of the Davids will call me out on this. I used to keep a list of every meat that I've ever eaten because i think that like if you're gonna eat one you should try them all but i draw the line at human obviously um but like yeah well i mean like anyway i mean if this was like a like in a live scenario i would definitely eat

a human to fucking survive. If I was, uh, what was that? What's that TV show right now going yellow jackets. Yeah. And then, uh, then the,

the, like the early nineties movie. And I think, I think they just remade it too, but it was like the rugby team. Yeah. Alive. So I would definitely,

I've got the crocodile pepperettes. I bought the water Buffalo ones as well. I still think the weirdest thing i've ever eaten but here in canada it's not that weird i've eaten bear like i've had bear chili um so yeah that was definitely i think the weirdest thing i've ever eaten and uh would eat it again you got sure do you have me back yep Yep, you're back. I just froze out for a minute. It's hard to happen.

Bear, I think, is up there. Crocodile. There's a farm actually near me for crocodile and alligator. I don't think it's so weird, but I think other people do. You sure it's crocodiles and alligators? Isn't alligators the only one that are native to this area? Or to the northeast? Not northeast, but crocodiles

are like fucking South America, right? And alligators are like Florida. Well, I don't know when it's all farmed. You never know. It's all just... I have a farm near me and... I didn't know they had crocodiles up here. Again, it's a farm.

They're not out there catching them, man. They're growing them to kill them and send them out in pepperettes. Also, what the fuck is a pepperette? Is that like a little tiny sausage thing or something? What? I don't know what the fuck a pepperette is, and apparently Mad Cow doesn't eat it. What do you guys call them? I don't know.

I don't know what one is to begin with. They're just like, they're little dried, cured meat sticks. I mean, I guess that's not a bad name for it, but I just, I don't, I don't eat gamey stuff, so I probably wouldn't go out of my way to. But like, pepperettes are generally available. There's like pepperoni ones, there's, there's pork and turkey and Pillars makes them. I don't know what I would call that. There's like a Land Yeager, which is a type of that, but I don't know what i would call that there's there's like a land jaeger which is a type of that but i don't know what yeah so okay yeah it's a land jaeger but land jaegers are usually dried german and smoked and they're usually um a little bit of pork and beef

but like you guys don't have there's no way there's. You're fucking with me. I'm not a... I'm a pretty basic shopper too. You go to the store and there's a thing and it just says hot pepperettes. You've never heard of that? I feel like it would just be called

beef sticks or turkey sticks or whatever it is. Something like that down here. Or like a dry sausage. What are you wearing? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Moving to what are you wearing? You guys are messing with me.

Rocking out the one and only unpaid and underrated shirt, if anyone interested with it. I think several of you had picked them up and a lot of you picked them up in person too. So if you haven't got yours yet, there's a few left I'm sure uh go ahead and go over to massonomics and pick up a couple unpaid underrated t-shirts mad cow what you rocking buddy you got a you got a whole elaborate uh setup there you know i'm pretty much just wearing my mad cow uniform that i do for special events and uh you know conferences uh competitions,

anything like that. So it's a nice little button-up with some cows and some greenery, a little bling-bling, a nice little cow print bandana. This is almost a $20 chain, so I can't just bring it out all the time. You were in the cow pants? is almost a $20 chain, so I can't just bring it out all the time. Are you wearing the cow pants? I'm not. It's a waist up

ensemble. I am wearing pants, though. That's good. I've got the Strength Go Don't Buy Our Cats shirt, because it's comfortable. I probably should have bought that. I don't think I honestly looked at anyone's booths all weekend. I felt i was just like uh what i mean like what time did barefoot didn't even show up until kind of a little later too because i was gonna check their

shit out but then like by the time i think they rolled in like the meat was already going and i was just kind of preoccupied yeah i think they showed up uh during the i think first flight bench yeah they showed up kind of late, but that's all right. Should have it all good. So it's been a minute since we've already talked about some of their, the massonomics YouTube videos. So they had the big one, I think last Friday, that was pretty much the whole like crew recap that we were all kind of were

featured in. And then today they hit another long one of just Tommy and Tanner kind of doing a, you know, more or less a podcast style kind of watching their lifts back and just kind of talking you through it and i did end up and kind of banging that one out it was kind of i kind of felt bad because stephanie it was just we were just sat down to watch a show and uh i got the alert on youtube that it was ready i was like fuck i kind of need to watch this i always tell alerts for research which kind of is just because i like to be fresh with it but i'm like i felt bad

because i looked and it was like 37 minutes. And I'm like, fuck, I'm going to watch this. And then we're going to maybe enough time to watch one show before I got to like roll in here and start podcasting. So she was a trooper and she didn't bitch about it too much. But yeah, I enjoyed it. And then Grant had some videos, too. He had two or three that were, you know, you know, at least 10 minutes that kind of a lot of us were featured in. So did you get a chance to watch all those mad cowards to consume any of that with the, uh,

the, the, the FOMO going on? I did. Yeah. I mean, I, the FOMO was strong with the, uh, you know, just the total meat recap and then the episode follow up. I haven't watched the one from the day yet. Uh, Rolled right in from work to cooking kids dinner, to feeding kids dinner, to entertaining them. Handed them off to my wife 10 minutes before this. So you didn't cook in paparazzi then, right? I did not.

Just dino nuggets. Just a classic. You don't cook paparazzi. They are cured. No, that's it. We're in a fight. I'm going to swear 21 times in the next 30 seconds. Hey, we need good real,

real content. So that's good stuff. Um, I know Joey will watch at least a couple of those YouTube videos, but I'm positive he didn't consume the long one today. No, God, no,

no, no, not today, but I did watch the rest of them. Yeah. And I, I think I even commented on the, uh, the one that grant posted. assume the long one today no god no no no not today but i did watch the rest of them yeah and i i think i even commented on the uh the one that grant posted it was really joey with another good lift or i know it was like every time two people would so uh what is your advice for and you hear in the background joey with a good lift i was like that's really funny because

i'm not in the video but like i interrupted every single interview a few minutes i thought that was pretty funny um but yeah i did not definitely did not get to watch today's long one i wanted to but so good what about uh what about the episode um let's see so i think we're trying to think of the timeline here so the only episode we haven't really talked about would be their recap of the podcast i believe where they actually got three or four crew on maybe four or five actually several crew on they were at the 11 mark that was probably my favorite part the fact that like you know they he you know tanner kind of pulled the uh the crew it's like who who's at 11 and just need to get their voices on and like and we're at obviously at the lift hard and uh you know several of our you know familiar faces and friends got on there we're able to join the hall of fame with us i really enjoyed that

uh for all those reasons i'll give last week's uh recap episode they did a five out of five massomics gym ipod touches bad guy what you would what you would think about last week's episode the massonomics podcast i feel like it's a strong five. I mean, how can you not? I mean, it's the recap. They had the crew on. They called in. They got the – I mean, if David didn't tell me he was a British David, I would have never known.

So I'm glad they dropped that in. Yep, yep, yep. I love those guys. So I had that. Just a side note, I did actually watch some of Joey's lifts live on the live stream. I was in there in a little bit. I think that's a strong note i did actually watch some of joey's lifts live on the live stream i was in there in a little bit i didn't catch the strongman uh portion of that but uh yeah i called a little bit i called joey on there and a few other familiar people up front i think i saw some

hell yeah uh i definitely have not listened to anything because again on vacation i have no time alone so all of my time is kids or sleeping so um let's see having crew on your recap episode killer idea um especially if one of them is one of the big davids uh so i'm gonna have to go and give them a five out of five unpaid underrated stickers that is fair that's really fair that's good stuff um moving on did you want to tell us about your uh continued hatred of the discord bots i fucking hate those bots man it's so i know they don't contribute anything i have them all blocked but i'll just be like i'll just say a word or i'll tag somebody and then it'll just be like four blocked fucking messages and i gotta scroll up to see them i just don't i just i hate those bots i wanted to put that in there because honestly i think i said

something today that just triggered two or three bots in one post and I was like you know what fuck these bots they don't help they don't contribute anything they don't like they were funny for a minute and now I'm just so over the concept the date ones are good I feel like the date ones are good

like the count one is good like the ones that contribute to conversation but if i just want to say like oh hey my wife mentioned this and then it's like ah my wife like a big gift like come on man like yeah i feel like we're done with most of the bots and and the fact that i had to block all of them so i kind of missed the good ones because i just can't stand constantly being interrupted when i say anything i can't even say license plate like you can't say license plate without being bombarded with bots that it has been pretty cool though to see all the crew i'm assuming it's

is it is someone literally made a recent one about the fucking like so if someone's making but who the fuck's making bots because like that's just funny but the c and the license plate's pretty cool i don't think i'd pay for a vanity plate like that's like i don't know i think it's 20 bucks a month or even if it's like 100 bucks a year like that's i don't know i would but they're like 350 up front and it's like that's so much money they charge you monthly i I'm sure. I'm just guessing. Maybe it's just a yearly fee. But a yearly fee is still a subscription. And if you divide it by 12, that's monthly.

Mine's a one-time up front. Yeah. Virginia, there are so many vanity plates in Virginia. I think it's because it's very easy. You literally just pay like $30 one time. That would be 100% doable. I guess I've never looked into it. because it's very easy you literally just pay like 30 bucks like one time just oh that now that

would be 100 doable i guess i guess i've never looked into it but i also don't know like i was debating too would i go unpaid would i go nwc like i don't know that i would go with just the i don't love the mask because i i don't know to me like it's not the word and i can't spell for shit so i'm like what is this fucking how's this mean masonomics i don't understand it so it doesn't really resonate with me as much. It's still cool that everyone's doing it and I get it. But I think for me, if I was going to spend that money on a personalized vanity plate,

it should be something a little, I don't know, more self-promoting. So like my podcast or my gym, not my friend's podcast. Yeah. I've been chasing mad cow for like five years. Some asshole has a check in every year. That that's funny you can always go big mad cow well there's i think there's a max

of seven might be might be six it's either six or seven oh i got it can you do like mdkw yeah mad cow 69 yeah that's a good one too well i, I have the first six letters of my last name, which is almost. All right. Um, I'm a mad cow. Jason, I'll get it. Eventually they'll give it up and I'll get it.

Mad cow. Jason. Just keep, keep checking. Okay. What do you want to do? Who, who the fuck is Donnie Thompson? Oh,

we're jumping ahead there. Yeah. So we do, we, you know, we're, we're big as Nate likes to coin us. We're big pole guys around here.

I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I don't, I'm'm a girl i'm not sure but i guess we're all big pole guys but uh yeah so we can uh every every now and then i'm gonna we can start sprinkling these in so the uh fairfield versus joey actually well i guess yeah did you want to go jump to the donnie thompson one that kind of we have to work up to that one you go ahead so because we got to build up to that one because it part lays from the other one so uh fairfield versus joey and everyone kind of uh heard joey's extreme crazy rant last week that we made a uh you know a real about because he was so upset about the fairfield and that he just like voiced his opinion so loudly and aggressively uh so then i was like ah i think someone i'm trying to think who it was i think it actually was one of the

davids now they think about it i won't say which one but it was one of the davids that that suggested that we poll the crew of was Joey the problem or was the Fairfield the problem. So results are in. We're looking at 17% thought Joey was the problem. 22% that thought Fairfield 100% was the problem. And then the vast majority at 61%. Yeah, a little bit of both. That was kind of a rigged quiz because I think most people were going to have a little bit of both anyway. But it was just poking fun at Joey a little bit. I enjoyed that because everyone pokes fun at me more often than not. I mean, I'll take some of that. I do think I'm a generally friendly person to customer service people. But it's like when you have Jen and Chris and Ryan and Scantz and Murph and a bunch of people all coming to me being like, this person fucking sucks. I'm just going to be the person to say something as polite as I can. Right.

So to all the people that think it was just me. Yeah, sometimes. And in all clarity, I don't know what I'm not sure how to word word it but like people accidentally vote on the wrong shit like a tenth of the like like a tenth of the votes are skewed just because people are fat thumbing through instagram and like i've got like i actually had like two people dm me saying oh i didn't mean to vote for that i'm like okay well like i can't like i can't go fucking i don't have a magic wand to change it so like thanks for letting me know but like uh but then that'll that'll segue into the uh who rants harder donnie thompson or big keith and that kind of came to me when because donnie was ripping into some every other story donnie's ripping into

someone hard so uh you know donnie actually lost that to this uh big keith guy uh 36 thought donnie was the uh little bit harder rancher and 64 thought i was and then that clearly segues into what joey had alluded to earlier who the fuck is donnie thompson does joey know who donnie thompson is uh only 12 people thought he did and uh 88 didn't so joey do you know who johnny thompson is without a doubt yeah so 12 of you are wrong i just googled him don't know uh and probably don't care if i'm being up front with you uh he is he created the thompson fat pad and he worked on the uh basically originated the the dumbbells that used to have the handle inside of it and like a big globe around it essentially i think there's a thompson fat bells i believe and a bunch of other things that he's said he's invented over the years that other people have stole from

him and he likes to talk about that religiously and complain about it. Cool. But good guy. Sounds like a good sell. He was an extra in one of my favorite movies, The Program, as a center playing football. So good stuff. So he wasn't in The Longest Yard with all the wrestlers? No. Didn't make it into that one.

I don't know who he is in. Yep. And it's a little bit of PRX update. Everyone saw my memes a couple months ago. So PRX actually did kind of are in the process of smoothing things over with Vendetta and Kyle Kaizen. So that's been great to see. Everyone gives me a hard time for kind of roasting on like you know people on instagram in the home gym world when they when i kind of think they're doing something shitty but you know i have the same opinion that most people do i just i'm not

afraid to make memes about it so but i'm also not afraid to be like oh well yeah they did the right thing so cool good for them so no hard feelings i heard they uh i i did have an inside source so that they there was some laughter about some of my memes that I made. Maybe, maybe not in the moment two months ago when their company was fucking, you know, under siege. But,

uh, this weekend when they were hanging out together, they, uh, they did have a good time about it. No good work. Yeah, I try.

I try to keep people honest. You saved the home gym industry. Yeah. You saved the home gym industry. I did not. i just made a couple memes that is all that's how i feel sometimes you did it you brought bowser steal the home gym con congratulations i will take more credit for that than i will the prx thing all right all right all right all right all right so we should read uh man you got a ad read for us there i guess i could uh i could read something

get it out of you well uh i guess if i was going to recommend this, thanks for my personal experience of it. I think probably two or three years ago, I stumbled on this podcast on YouTube. There were just two guys sitting at a roundtable. And I was like, I don't know who these guys are. Typically, if you see something that's kind of like a few times on YouTube, it's probably someone that's of like very acclaimed lifter and i was like who are these guys like there's you know they look like they lift but i don't really know anything about it on their board just like telling dad jokes and not even talking about lifting and uh it's like you know i couldn't remember their names at all

after i'd watched the one episode i was like what is going on here then probably probably a year later I kind of like snapped in and like had more of a uh general understanding of what was going on just from like Instagram and other stuff like that I got the vibe and uh you know just a couple of uh suburban dads who like dad drinks and lifting drinking it's all I know so uh i just kind of snapped into the into the program and uh got caught up to speed a little bit and got the vibe so you know anyone that just likes to dabble in any kind of strength sport i mean i'm probably one of the few people that doesn't actually power lift but um i've just been strongman powerlifting, anything else, uh, anything lifting related.

You're just into being kind of a community of guys that just like to shoot the shit. And this day and age, you don't always get to bro down as much as you used to. So you can kind of bro down with the crew and the discord and, uh, have a little, a little gang to talk to throughout the week about, you know,

some people like-minded individuals that like fun and listen. That's a fair assessment. I will take that. And I think with that, we can, you want to kick everyone out, Joey, and get that guess on the horn? Yeah, it's done. I kicked everybody out while he was chatting. Yeah. All right.

There is a big mad cow. Is that you, buddy? Hey. Hey, welcome, yeah. All right. There is Big Mad Cow. Is that you, buddy? Hey. Hey, welcome. Is that Aberdeen? Yep. Yeah, well, this is Rochester and Canada, but close enough. Actually, I might have never left Aberdeen.

We don't know. I'm still not convinced Big Sam made it home. I was just walking around Aberdeen. I still might be. Just loading up 495 squats cold in the Crocs and taking them down. Everybody has now been fired from the fair field, and he's the general manager. I am the captain now.

Joey, what have you done? I actually know just the one person. So we got Big Mad Cow on um a bit of an elusive character i think if you were at the arnold this year you would have ran into him and maybe got an autographed picture that i forgot and then ended up showing up in my order from massonomics because tanner was like i got you man and then the next order i did he ended up sending me like doritos um meat a pepperette he fucking sent me a pepper at you guys and and the mad cow picture i'd forgotten that you autographed uh so it's it's really fun to have you on because i think when when you do actually

comment because i don't think you comment a lot but when you do it's always either really funny or really random and i i kind of enjoy that about you so um anyway just tell us tell everybody who you are and um i think we already heard what brought you to massnomics i think we already heard that story there so um just tell us who you are where to find you So just tell us who you are, where to find you. Right. In the Discord, BigMadCow, obviously. I like to pop in at random times. I don't always check in, but every few days I might maybe try to get a sense of what's going on or maybe just interject whatever I think I want to interject.

Might pretty, you know, probably derail things more than often than not. But yeah, let's jump in there Instagram is just madcow I think I think it's underscore madcow but I mainly post you want to spell that for him yep M-A-D-K-O-W there you go

and yeah I mostly I guess I mostly post like videos and stuff like that now. I did do strongman. I think Keith found a strongman picture from me. Probably could go back a while for me doing anything actually strong, but relatively. But, yeah, I've been more into the grip competitions the last couple years

and just general lifting, stuff like that. I don't know maybe i'll do a powerlifting meet someday one popped up in a convenient location i mean it is only three hours away from uh from from from your hub airport and uh you know or five and a half hours from the other hub i guess but uh you know to get into aberdeen, you got that nice 12 hour layover. I feel. Yeah. There's travel stories where I'm up. I was like, maybe I can make this happen next year.

And then all the travel stores. Yeah. That probably made the FOMO less about. Yeah. But I mean, last year wasn't like that. I mean, it was literally a fluke that the whole fucking world,

you know, kind of shut down there for a day or two. And kind of, they happened to be, I would, I think they were talking about like, if that happened like a two days earlier, a day earlier,

like people wouldn't have just like, no one would have got there. Like the whole fucking meat would have got canceled. There would have been like 30 people competing basically. Like Dave probably wouldn't even have came down if there wasn't like, I don't know. Cause out of the 90 of us, 60 of us flew in probably 50 of us flew in.

I'd say at least 50 flew. Yeah. Like, like if, if everyone was grounded, essentially, like you're going to do a 30 person meet and a 10 person strongman show. I mean, I guess it would have been, it would have been interesting. I would, I would have watched the, the, you know, the live, but big mini wouldn't have been there. So it would have been a, it wouldn't have been very good. Yeah. I missed each one of those by a day actually.

So, uh, yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I missed each one of those by a day actually. So, uh, yeah, that's fair. Fair. So you're from Virginia. Yeah. I live in Virginia. I'm from Pennsylvania.

Originally. I lived in a few places. I went to school, went to a couple of colleges. I went to school in a Jersey in South Carolina and Maryland. Yeah. Moved back home after college, went out to California.

I was, I was aspiring to be like a pro or semi-pro beach volleyball player that was my main sport in high school and college I played NCAA volleyball uh trying to transition to the beach and you know after college trained a lot in Pennsylvania then I was like all right I going to move to California, try it out out there, and lived out there for a few years before settling back in Virginia here. Where in Pennsylvania, roughly, where are you guys from? I'm from Morgantown, West Virginia, so I'm pretty close to Pennsylvania.

Not that area. I'm southeast, near Philly. Gotcha. Yeah, so closer to like Damager. Yep, yep. I don't know. I can't think of anyone else. I don't know who else

is around there, but I know he's in Philly. I'm not sure. You're kind of in a hub, though, if you're right in Virginia area. Are you kind of near Murph and Matt? Pretty close. I mean, I think Murph and Matt? Pretty close. I think Murph is in D.C. Yeah.

You guys all met up. Yeah. Matt did a Strongman contest that was 10 minutes from my house, which is like 45 minutes from him probably and like an hour from Murph. They were out there. It was at a brewery anyway. Brewery 10 minutes from my house in my town. from where they were out there. I was like, Oh, is that a brewery anyway?

Yeah. Brewery 10 minutes from my house in my town. I was like, I can make it out. I'll unveil myself. Someone will twist your arm hard enough to make it to that. Yeah. I feel that.

So one thing we ask everybody, so how long have you been around on mass nomics? We didn't catch that. Like when you said you joined. I don't know when I joined the discord. around on massomics we didn't catch that like when you said you joined about two years ago i don't know when i joined the discord exactly but yeah probably probably two years i've been kind of like watching more regularly so what is the what is the one piece of merch you wish you got i guess some of the uh the og stuff kind to think if there's anything that came in the way.

I did think about this. I wish I would have got one of the Lift Hard, Lift Easy shirts last year, and then I would have got one this year and tried to start keeping it going. I was like, I don't know if I want just this year. I didn't have last year. It also didn't go. That's fair. Don't sleep on those shorts.

Did you get the new shorts? I did not. Shorts are pretty dope. I pulled the trigger on a second pair. In the silly pint. I thought about getting a second pair. I do want a silly pint too. I can't find one from last year.

I had a whole thing in the score trying to be like, I was going crazy. Like, does, did it exist? Like, I vividly remember getting like a silly pint and ammonia and I'm like the barbecue sauce,

but I'm like, why can't I find my silly pint? Uh, and I, it's in the house somewhere. It's got a fucking, like actually sit down and look for it. But I,

first case, I think I can buy one off Toby. I've got three of the silly pints and they just smell funny sometimes. So I don't use them at all. They just completely nostalgic collector's items that just sit on a shelf i'll i think i drank a pre-workout of it as a bit once for a video and it would just taste it like is that the pre-workout you dumped they always smell bad only i had a spotter only out of the drink spotter yeah that's um normally if i'm gonna use those it's right in the morning when i just

need that water so fast like i wake up kind of bat my eyes and then i down a glass of water every morning and it's usually out of a silly pint um so do you did you get a hall of fame card i did yeah i got one i don't know i don't have a lot of things to check off yeah honestly but uh uh you know i guess relatively new compared to some of the other people that have been on for a while. Kind of racked up on the back catalog and some of the other things on there. I mean, I don't know. I can't even recall the stance anymore. I was like, I'm so far away.

You've got to be. I met you at the Arnold. You've been a supporter now for two years you've got to be at least six or seven yeah probably I've got to be in the final twelve isn't far

I think it's in my desk and I've just got to break it out did you get the patch which one the mass nomics supported crew patch. Like the thing that was the best. Okay. I think the first thing I got was the $2 bills.

And the Jefferson, all the Jefferson deadlifts. Actually, we don't talk about that one enough. That's fun. That's a good call. Yeah, we don't talk about that one enough. I should have asked her how many of the $2 bills she still had. She should have brought them and spent them all in Aberdeen.

I was definitely considering getting like $1 to $200 in $2 bills for the Arnold and just slapping them down on the table every once in a while. If I needed some socks or something like that. That would have been really funny. Just paying for everything at the massonomics booth with $2 bills.

I think it would, I think it would have taken like one or two things for them to get it that you were doing a bit, but they haven't taken cash or they only do like, I didn't, did they even, I think I took, I think I bought something in cash too.

I think about the two that doesn't fit. Those new toques they got, those are small as shit. They fit my kids. They don't fit me and I think that's what I bought with cash. I had cash. I was looking at my Jefferson Day lipsticks on my squat rack.

And then my other one on my ear over there. It's COVID. As you mentioned your squat record, it'll lead me into a little least fun, most fun. Relatively new game we play here, so I'm going to give you a topic and you just tell me you're basically the least fun thing about it and the most fun.

We're not playing unpaid or FMK or anything, so just least fun, most fun. Least fun, most fun, home gyms. Most fun is constantly building it out and justifying getting new things in i don't go all out as far as high dollar items but i i've been gradually curating all of my weight plates so i'm trying to get like a vintage collection that's mostly funded by buying and selling a bunch of random stuff so i'm always like i always have plates coming in and out and swapping them and i'm kind of like curating my whole my whole setup and just adding little things

here and there you know building it out and specialty bars especially with doing the grip stuff i have a whole wall of just grip shit that i don't even need already and uh at least fun finding times to do any kind of lift that makes any kind of noise because you are at the mercy of children being in the same house so i know i've heard big rob say he just gets up and lifts and bangs weights and nobody wakes up I don't understand how that happens in his house yeah I think his kids must be upstairs and he's in the basement

or he's super insulated but I think he lifts on a lot of drop pads and stuff too so I don't know if that like helps silence stuff but I don't know yeah I couldn't my floors are so if I tried to fucking lift and my wife was sleeping like just walking down the stairs with the waker up let alone like actually yeah i mean yeah i'm in

the basement and they're up on the second floor but i was like a couple nights i was just starting to do whatever my wife's like i hear every rep of everything you're doing very loud so you know your only time you have to work out is when people are sleeping and then you wake them up luckily i i get both my workouts in like during the day at lunchtime because i work oh nice yeah that's gonna help saving that works especially for like grip stuff i'm like i'm gonna practice this grip implement and i can go downstairs for five minutes and do it and i'm not like super sweaty nice i dig it yeah like i like both those answers uh i can definitely relate to the building your gym by buying and selling like that is fucking that is the go-to

of every you know home gym that i've ever you know had a finger and you know just like all my friends that have like they're like how do you have all those stuff it's just fucking search craigslist 24 7 and then just buy shit and sell it and yeah it's what you got to do when you don't have a shit ton of expendable money so um i mean go ahead i was gonna say i'm pretty sure you have like every mill york plate that's in north of maryland i have a few and i've've every now and then I see more pop up, but I'm just like, I'm so I don't know. Nice. The Eagle

Shizzlers. I always like stutter on that fucking word. It's like, is it Shizzler or Shizzler? I actually got them from Big Rob himself on the way back to the Arnold's. That is good stuff yeah rob's a good guy i have next time i if i actually i'm going through pittsburgh anytime soon he's got a husafelt that i'd buy off of him but uh just not gonna drive four hours to pick up

a husafelt no matter how cheap it is but it's kind of on my way home if i go to my parents just haven't really got don't have i don't have that trip on the calendar yet so i i i have some grip questions because i'm not like i think i've spoken about it before my grip is my weakest because i have all the nerve damage and muscle damage and stuff like that so like when you're training grip are you not training anything else like does deadlifts does having a strong back help your grip i don't think it helps your grip it you have to have a surplus of back strength to do a grip lift that requires like semi-heavy load so if you're doing an you know if you're a competitive grip lifter, then you're doing a double overhand axle. Yep.

Over 300, something over 300, over 400 pounds. So if your max deadlift is 425, you're not going to axle deadlift 400. Even if your hands are strong enough, just because like, you're not focused on your technique.

You're not dialed in. You're not locked in like on a hook grip or an alternating grip or something like that or straps it's not like you can just rip away so i would say for competitions where you're doing a heavy lift you just need to be like 20 15 stronger than like what you're trying to do on a grip lift but otherwise i don't know if your overall body strength i think your arm strength like your bicep itself bicep tendon like the whole chain from maybe your bicep down to your wrist and your hand the stronger that is i think that does translate but i don't think you're if you like, if you only were a deadlift specialist and only use straps, like only trained deadlifts and never like arms or arms and just strapped in

every time, like that power isn't going to help you. All right. Yeah. I, I asked, cause I was at the Arnold, not this year, but the year before, and I was watching the Square deadlifts. Yep. Yeah, Saxon Bar. Thank you. The Saxon Bar. And those people were just big in general, right?

Those people were just large humans. And then they would try and grip that big, giant Saxon Bar. And I was just wondering if those like, are the, is that a grip competition or is that a deadlift competition? No, that is a, that is an implement in a grip competition for sure. Like even the world record is less than 315 pounds.

I'm pretty sure on the Saxon still it's like the, the amount of weight that the top, top, top people on the saxon bar lift like pretty much everyone can lift on a barbell so it's uh it's more about obviously if you're you know if you're carl and you're 610 and you have gigantic hands and you're strong freakishly strong everywhere like that's gonna help but uh otherwise I think a lot of people just come from strong man. That's a lot of, you know, there's, there's like kind of a couple of types of grip people. It's like strong men and like rock climbers and the rock climbers are 150

pounds and the strong men are 300 pounds. So it's, uh, people come from, I think two of the channels that people come from apparently in that, and then maybe like grapplers and stuff like that. Oh yeah. You can't sleep on rock climbers. Those dudes in there. Actually those dudes and ladies with their grip. Yeah.

Yeah. I got a good friend that does that. That's like, you know, like, like five, 10, 150 pounds and he can out grip anything in my gym.

Then I can. So very, very strong grip yeah there's a you know it's compared to like strongman or powerlifting the body weight advantage is significantly less like there's there's people that are competitive with the best of them that are 220 or even like 190 like there's certain competitions where it's like just one hand on like some of the loading certain competitions where it's like just one hand on like some of the loading pin implements it's not like a ton of weight it's just one-handed and

the like there will be a climber that's 175 pounds it's in like top five in the world do you do um like the denny stones and stuff like that like the are those grip or those posterior like i think that's i think that's just not caring if your thumbs hurt a lot. I've never tried it. I'd like to try it. I don't know if I could lift them in a, like weight wise. Yeah.

That's not considered like a grip person thing. Next time you're in a, next time you're in upstate New York or downstate Canada, feel free. Joey and I both have a pair of those. There you go. If I stop on in, free day pass to any crew in the area.

I don't think Matt has. I've never seen him. Matt? We'll never know. He'll never show up here. So we'd be calling you Mad Cow. Do you have any desire to give us your first name or anything like that? Yes.

My first name is Jason. My last name is a word that sounds like Mad Cow, kind of. And that's how I got the nickname from Mad Cow Disease back when we were in middle school. My last name basically sounds like Mad Cow Disease pretty closely. First name is Jason. I don't know. No one really calls me that in the

lifting internet through people that I know. Literally, everybody just calls you Mad Cow? Pretty much. That's dope. I don't think a lot of people know my name as far as like group stuff. I think one or two people call me Chase.

Like Cher. Yeah, that's fair. Okay. So occupation wise, we have you as a grip fluencer. Yeah, there's so much money in there. Uh, I was trying to get,

I was trying to get a sponsorship with nemesis grips for like a 10% discount or something, but, uh, still negotiating. Oh, that doesn't remind me of your, I was surprised your,

um, favorite shirt that you didn't get was, didn't they have like get a grip shirt and it was like a hook grip thing? I fucking love that shirt. That was a good blank. I don't think I've seen that one. I only kind of vaguely remember it. That's actually one of my favorite shirts.

It's get a grip and then it's just a hand on the back that's all beat up with tape around the thumb. Yeah, no, I've got that one. It doesn't fit anymore, but that was a good blank whatever that blank fortunately there's no hook gripping in grip so i don't have to worry about that's right yeah that makes sense all right uh keith you want to grab something here yeah uh oh let's see so we already know where mad cow came from what about happy bull uh I think that actually might parlay into something that Joey crossed out later now that I read it. Happy Bull,

is there a story there? I don't know what that is. Do I? It's why I crossed that out. Well, I didn't register it. The other one would be why do people call you Rockstar? I thought you were trying to give me like a more positive nickname.

No, it was just, someone had said that, but why did you call me rockstar? Uh, I started getting called rockstar in ninth grade when I was trying out for the volleyball team. And they basically,

uh, you know, you have like 30 kids trying out and then there's like two coaches. So they basically have all the varsity guys just like run you through drills and they're like, all right, like who looks like they know what they're doing. You know, volleyball. It's like a lot of people are coming into it for the first time. people are coming into it for the first time in my career trying out the high school it's like who's like looks kind of athletic who's like yes it and it's like you know coordinated so uh they're they're asking all the seniors they're like the coach was like all right who can like you know who's pretty good at this who's pretty good at that for making the team and i guess apparently

all the seniors because i had like a shag like a beetle style shag and i was just this like skinny little kid with this like big shag haircut and they just all started calling me rock star i guess like between themselves and they were like put it they wrote it like on like the thing like the cut list and like making the team list it was like so and so so and so rock star and i was like i don't see my name on here at all i was like i don't know if i'm cut or not they're like oh you're rock star i was like nobody told me you call me that and they call me that for like a week or so that's funny it's like who's this rock star guy like oh that's me so so that was that was everybody in my high school knew me as that for like all four years and like all my like high school dudes that are in like the

fancy football and whatever actually i have people people visit me this weekend they call me rock or rock star nice so you had mentioned that uh you know you actually played uh college volleyball uh tell me about that yeah it's uh so i mentioned that i went to three colleges the first one i stayed stayed at for about a semester and ended up transferring out for a variety of reasons. That school had a really good volleyball program. Just for a quick background, when I got out of high school, there was less than 20 colleges that offered scholarships for volleyball in the whole country so if you wanted a volleyball scholarship you had to be like a like an sec starter level player now is that just right interrupt is that just men's because i know was women's volleyball

significantly bigger than men's volleyball i'd imagine if you're a girl and you're over six feet tall and you can tie your shoes you'll get a volleyball scholarship yeah because i had like like d3 schools where i grew up like all had volleyball like i went to i knew several girls that got the volleyball scholarship so you know specifically men getting a scholarship to college was like 20 or ish yeah it's it's because yeah so the uniforms cost less for um for women's volleyball i think is you know that's true to those everybody wears lift shorts and men so it's just exorbitantly that that that makes sense yeah the boosters can't afford that sorry i was watching the olympics and was just looking at the the women's canada uniform and i was just like sure we can afford

more fabric but like what do i know i was talking to my wife about those i was like i don't think i could wear in like an asymmetrical outfit they were just they were sideways they were like it was like um it was one strap yeah one strap like the old wrestling the under the giant one strap and then right under the chest and then just like a thong and it's just like i can't be be comfortable. Yeah, I don't know. I can't speak to that. But I was just thinking, like, maybe I did notice the open shoulder. Nice.

The open shoulder was their hitting shoulder, I think, for both of them. So maybe I was like, their arm is very unrestricted on that side. I don't know. I think it was like, if I had a strap on one side not the other i think that would just like throw me off oh yeah that would definitely throw me off for sure so sorry to derail that conversation but i was just very curious of like there's more than 20 colleges that played like volleyball yeah and i just wanted to make a joke about yeah yeah i mean there's there's a lot more teams in that like there's a lot of d, but essentially it has to do with the, like the equal scholarships under,

under like title nine. So if you have a football program, that's like 50 scholarships. So then like on the women's side, there's often like field hockey and like volleyball and like maybe something else to kind of offset it. So that's why there's only a few there's a few big programs like Penn State and like UCLA and stuff like that but uh for the most part it's

like you know instead of like 120 like men's scholarship basketball teams there's like 20 volleyball teams gotcha but there is d3 so I end up playing d3 the first college I went to was like a top tier d3 school and I planned on kind of playing there and going there so i i ended up playing d3 the first college i went to was like a top tier d3 school and i planned on kind of playing there and going there and then i ended up transferring out went to like a mid-tier d3 school for a couple years and then i was like you know what i don't like this school that much and i'm literally like not on any kind of so this is going to turn out and then you said you tried to yep no go ahead and you said you And then you said you tried to, yep. No, go ahead. And you said you kind of,

you said you just kind of chase that down and, uh, tried to, how, how much time investment did you give the whole post-graduation? I want to be a professional volleyball player. Like, like I, like what was that timeline like before you actually kind of,

uh, realized you wanted to be a grip grip influencer for your career? Well, uh, if you're talking about how much time did i take off of working to pursue that okay so you were already working full-time okay you already yeah and then just absolutely nothing so i transferred the school i graduated from did not have a ncaa men's volleyball team so i was playing it was in myrtle beach like at coastal so i was playing a lot of like beach games with like the all like the best like local guys so i was playing a lot of beach

i moved back to pennsylvania and uh i had like a good group of guys there through like kind of my high school's network and club network so i played some beach up there then i moved to california but i was working full-time the whole time. Gotcha. As a grip influencer, obviously. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else you're going to do with a finance degree. Gotcha. Makes sense.

Sell Bitcoin. We'll have to ask Big Jeff what to do with that. Yeah, I shorted Bitcoin and made a ton of money with it. Hell yeah. One of the things that we got told you really like is arts and crafts which does not does not surprise me but can you give me an example i'm trying to think of who would say that why but i do so i like to run so did you design this shirt or did you find this shirt i didn't i did not design this shirt i found it i've designed shirts in the past like volleyball related ones and stuff like that

but um i'm assuming that came from i like to run events like uh like competitions and stuff at my house like in high school i'd'd organize some random-ass competition for some goofy game that we made up, stuff like that. I hosted the Beer Olympics two years in a row, a very extravagant Beer Olympics with team jerseys and all kinds of stuff, an elaborate scoring system.

I'd make all the games and signage and stuff like that. My wife is laughing at me. Oh, she can hear us. Can she hear us or just, just me just right now.

Oh, that's really fun. Yeah. So I'm guessing from that and I've, I've made up a couple of like random games here and there. And I'm actually this weekend with my cornhole tournament. So I've been making like signs and building cornhole sets and stuff like that that cornhole yeah that's on the list too at some point um so tell me what joggling is oh joggling is uh running and juggling at the

same time and it's actually competed in the same way track would be you essentially just have to juggle while you run um there's something called the international jugglers association and they have as part of their like festival they usually have a juggling meet where you they have like 100 meter 200 meter 400 meter mile and you have to juggle if you drop the balls you have to go back and pick them up from where you drop them like now can you what do you do like do you have like whatever edition bags or are you just like you go to the grocery store and they're like you're buying some apples and you're like no fuck it i got it like i don't need a bag i got this if i have three or something i mean you might as well just start messing around with it.

But if you're juggling against just, like, any kind of balls, like, there's professional juggling balls that are basically, like, some kind of, like, shell with, like, a sand or something inside. It kind of, like, deadens the – so it doesn't want to bounce out of your hand as much. It, like, stops it. Now, is there a rule you actually have to be going a certain like, like pace or cause I, I guess I, I keep all the speed walking shit keeps showing up in my feed where like you're one foot,

like you have to have one foot on the ground at all times. So it was like, and so that's like, that's not running, but doing that would still be hard. So like, is there a, is it all just for fun or is it actually like it's a serious competition or

do you have to like actively be like not walking walking but actually running to be considered this activity? I don't know how serious of a competition I would call it, but there are world records for it. They do have a meet at this big juggling event. It's just like a track meet. It's just like run this distance,'s just like we're on this distance the fastest person while juggling wins that'd be crazy you know like so you've either partaken or saw it then so like does even the guy that win drop at least once or like do most people not drop at all and then it's just to keep us no no like unless it's like a mile maybe you could drop but like no you're if you drop you're

screwed especially in a sprint like i was chasing the world record in the 100 meters for it like one summer i was just like training for it and uh so like if you drop it in 100 like the world record for 100 meters is like under 12 seconds it's fast like you're legitimately sprinting 100 meters is like under 12 seconds it's fast like you're legitimately sprinting and i think i think i hit like 12.5 was my fastest i think it's like 11.6 or something like that and how many well how many implements were you drug like is that also part of it too like yeah yeah there's three minimum of five yeah yeah it's it's three i mean the main thing is three because that's considered like an actual like a normal jugger there's also records for like five balls and stuff like that i don't that's that's and that's i don't know like if i could do that that would be yeah i was never that level of juggler

that i could juggle like five balls and runner yeah that seems like it'd be a challenge uh for sure i went to the one like ija like festival and I competed in the juggling stuff. And I was like by far the worst juggler there, but I was just like the best athlete. If you can imagine the field of jugglers wasn't the most athlete. So you said you've, you've never done powerlifting, but you have,

you have, have you actually done some, you've done like sanctioned strongman competitions before in your past right yeah i think i did four oh nice yeah i did uh i did one novice and then i did a team competition that would be fun as shit yeah it was super fun and it was like one of the guys that finished like right ahead of me and my first novice he came came, he lived in the areas. I ended up doing that. I was actually at a,

you know, Joey's at Mary. Yes. Yeah. It was at his gym, the lions. Yeah. I just,

I didn't, I just saw that like, but you know, when the last year he's closed that down and I didn't even know that that was, I think I saw that like it just popped up in my YouTube randomly. It hadn't fallen. Like I really followed him for a while.

And I was like, Oh, that sucks. Yeah. That was a really cool gym. I was glad i was like oh that sucks yeah that was a really cool gym i was glad i got to do that team one there it's super fun um any so strongman's pretty much retired and just solely focusing on the grip right now uh yeah probably for now i had i had like a back issue that slowed me down like after i did like the novice and then i did the

team and then i did uh one like open class and then one more open class. That was like a thing. So it's more of like a like a theme. That's I think the picture with a stone that you got. Well, I was I was looking for a damn any any picture with you in a Masonic swag and I couldn't find anything. Everything everything you had was real. So I had to like try. It was hard to find an actual still photo.

I was like, all right, he's shirtless. That's better than like just a not Masonomic shirt. So we'll take it. Yeah. Well, you could have take a screenshot from the 40-40 club, I guess. Yeah. We'll get into that a little later. That's done there for a topic.

Let's see. Lots of volleyball. Have you been consuming a lot of the volleyball? So yeah, you already said you were consuming a lot of the vault so yeah you already said you were consuming a lot of the volleyball uh is what what volleyball is in the olympics right now is it just beach or is it like uh is it only there's indoor there's indoor and there's beach okay is the indoor still is it all two versus two or there's not like there's not like a big there's not like a team of like like your normal like traditional team of volleyball players in the olympic scissor yeah yeah the indoors the indoors are what you would think like six versus six in a gym yeah

and then the beach is the doubles gotcha gotcha cool stuff and it's for mail yep okay so i i i'm finally gonna get into it what is the 40 40 challenge? And how can we all do it and make it a meme? Well, I don't know how I came up with the idea. There's an implement called the wrist wrench. It's a two and three-eighths diameter pipe. And it has straps that wrap around it. And a lot of arm wrestlers actually use it to do do like cupping because it wants to turn your hand like this way because it has straps that wrap around so essentially like if you're holding it the straps the weight and resistance is this way

and it wants to pull it this way like out of your hand so you gotta keep it still like keep it from rotating and keep your wrist left and so arm wrestlers use it for like cupping over on like a table and uh it's also like grip implement kind of lift weight on like a loading thing so that's my favorite implement yeah i just kind of like naturally good at it and i like training it whatever it's you you can't do a ton of weight on it like if you could do 100 pounds that's like very very. Just like lifting it up six, eight inches off the ground. Uh,

so I was training that and I was like, you know what? I had some idea for like a random seat. Cause I don't do a lot of like the feet. So I'm like inch dumbbells, stuff like this. I was like, I have an idea for a feet.

I wonder if I could hold 40 kilograms on the wrist wrench for long enough to chug 40 ounces of beer, which would be obviously like pretty significant chug. And, uh, I had the idea and I was like, you know, I'm just going to make this like really overly dramatic,

like ridiculous, like mockumentary about like trying to do this feat and, uh, put it all together and throw it out there just to try to put like something with a little more production value and like length behind it into the grip internet just for people

to enjoy the grip fluence that was just grip fluency okay so that was a 40 ounce I'm sorry beer or liquor I'm drinking a fucking 40-ounce with a liquor. Just fucking do it. Let's go.

Get out of here, Iger. This isn't Russian. They are fucked over there. Like, you watch the... Anyway. I don't drink a juice box of vodka with my wife. Okay, so... Obviously, I've removed this once or twice twice but maybe it's time to ask it i want to hear it

why do people keep telling us you milked a bull is that just a dick joke i guess i don't know what that is i guess all right we'll move on yeah some people some people when they give it to their buddies their buddies think they're being cute, and it's just they give us stupid shit. So, that's why we honestly get our best stuff from people who's like significant other and their parents, honestly. Those are the people that don't screw us up. Is this light bothering you guys?

No, but you absolutely... What the hell is in the top left of... There's something in front of your camera that keeps... That's a candle! No, there's something that your camera's just picking up like look look at this zoom screen and there's like this little like fucking black square microphone what the fuck is your microphone no no it's usually like a thing is missing i don't know it's just a lot of times like anytime like you touch it like the whole your whole screen is vibrating you're good buddy um stand by let's see if you got more than one of those i'm assuming like two

of my friends can aspire to say something dumb together yeah it's all good just this is just farther future note i need to i need to implore people to like give it to their at least their wife or something so we get better you're not yeah just like by the way you're not gonna be funny by adding stupid shit please give us something we can talk about yeah when they don't honestly that's happened a couple times where somebody's like add this and they're just like what i don't understand what that is well nobody i sent it to knows what Masonomics is. Hell yeah. Unpaid and underrated.

But they all think you jerked off a bull, I guess. So I don't know. They don't know what Masonomics is. So there's no way they know what Cuminati is. So they don't know that you're in the inner circle now. So tell me about why you love making rap mixtapes. I mean, how could you not? You just got to spit hot fire so do you rap or do you just make like mixtapes no i i did in like college and briefly after i mean i got into i produced all my own beats and everything and i had like a little group of guys in college and we made some stuff so now rockstar makes a little more sense i guess okay so so that was unrelated but

no we need we need one of those we need one of those songs to put on when we post this on instagram we need one of your rap songs i don many, I, you said you haven't listened to all of these. Um, but I also kind of got good at rapping by accident. Like, well, karaoke, like I don't write my own raps.

I'm not, I'm not talented. I'm just a really good impressionist. So actually that would be really fun. I think we, you should send us one of those at some point. Trying to think what i might still have a copy of and what would be appropriate for or any post today it was pretty and we're we're very p we're very pg around here or or hear me out we don't need any more ai songs we need more original songs

so maybe mad cow finally does a crew rap song or an unpaid underrated rap song that's possible i would probably have to get i i was really into like producing all of my beats from like scratch like to build them all up myself and not like taking you know just downloading some beats or whatever i don't have time to do that but i could potentially rap on someone okay you heard it here guys make a beat and mad cow will rap maybe i'll throw a verse on if i have some advanced notice and we'll get the first like original unpaid and underrated we could yeah we could do a side project me and Joey. There you go. Do you, is rap your primary music choice? If I'm working out, probably.

Honestly, like, I don't listen to a ton of music like I used to. Because I, you know, I'm grown up now. A lot of, I do, like, a lot of podcasts and stuff like that. And then sometimes I'll throw on some uh if I'm like working out in the yard or something like that I do chill I do like Diplo radio or like some kind of like semi semi-energetic but not like squirrel x level like dance type stuff if I'm like out wandering around the yard or like some lo-fi type stuff if I'm working out I do like to do rap i'm not like a i'm not a metal guy for

for anything like workout or anything never really got into it no i'm gonna work on music it's probably like run the jewels or like something like that diplo is a good choice uh any um have you at all paid attention to the kendrick and drake shit that's barely only only what has found its way to me oh uh yeah drake got booed at the limp biscuit concert here in toronto they were gonna actually have a somewhat related i was somewhat related to that topic story from this morning that was i still don't understand what happened but but I was in line at Walmart returning something. There's a lady behind me looking at her phone.

She was not on the phone. She wasn't talking to anyone. She looks at her phone. Then she just says to herself, she's like, yeah, they're really not like us, though. Just to nobody. And I looked around. I was like, is she talking to someone? I was like, who are you talking to?

It's like 7.30 a.m. at Walmart. It's dead quiet. Like, yeah, they're really not like us though. They're not like us. I was like, I don't know if she's watching like the music video and just agreeing or I don't know what's going on. But I didn't really follow that whole beef. I don't know what's happening. My brother was at the Limp Bizkit show and guess they fred durst was like hey everybody drake is here and the crowd just went into a series of boos and then and he said like i don't know but fred durst looked backstage said like no and then went on with the show so i think they were going to bring him out i thought

that was pretty funny so if you were a rap guy i thought you might appreciate that story because like yeah they really the pr has not been good pr is not good no no no they say all they say all attention is good attention nah no it's not sometimes yes uh i hope he saves some money. I think that's drying up. I think he's going to go from like 20 mil a year to two mil a year pronto. Yeah. Stuff. So why do you hate sumo deadlifts?

I mean, she's a purist. Yeah. I'm a purist. I don't know. I don't hate the, I'm a purist. I don't know. I don't hate the... I mean, there could be sumo deadlifts that I don't hate. It's just like the extreme.

It's so absurd. With the deadlift bars and the whatever. These dudes that essentially just lock their knees out and it's like seven inches off the floor. I don't get it. I don't think you're doing a lot of work. If you lift it four inches off the floor in some like very advantageous straight back,

like you're essentially doing like a four or five inch leg dress. I don't disagree actually, but like there's guys that's like, Oh, like 1000 for three. And it's like, oh, 1,000 for three. And it's like, they just basically pop their knees up. I don't know. Yeah, they're doing 480.

I mean, I came from strong, man. I don't do powerlifting. I'm 6'3 in the 220 class. So I'm already lifting against people in Strongman that are 5'7 and doing deadlift for reps. And I'm doing literally twice the bar travel. And then I see these people like, oh, 900-pound deadlift. And they move the bar not even as far as I do when I get to my sticking point,

which is below my knees. All right, some more rapid fire. Why do you hate the Cowboys? I don't see why you wouldn't hate them. If you're from Dallas, I don't hate Cowboys fans that are from Dallas. I respect anyone with their home team. But, you know, I don't know. Keith, are you a Cowboys fan that are from Dallas. I respect anyone with their home team. But, you know,

I don't know. Are you a Cowboys fan? Browns. Oh, nice. I like Browns. Always. There's so many Cowboys fans are just people that

want to be dickish. Like, what's it called like just dickish uh like just disagreeing with people for no reason I can't think of the term right now

contrarian but yeah exactly yeah they're just like there's people from like Philly New York and stuff like that they're just Cowboys fans it's like everyone was Eagles fans and they're like, oh, I like the Cowboys. And they're like, oh, my dad said they won when he was little in the 80s.

I don't know. I mean, I'm an Eagles fan, so I naturally hate them, but I also don't like the contrarian like random place fans that are like, oh, it's America's team. It's like, it's not. It's not. It's not it's not it's not all right cool keith uh do you want to take something else yeah we got a bunch actually uh i will hit you

with fmk real quick though we can kind of circle back to some more stuff uh but i got fmk i kind of pieced together i had that i'm really enjoying right now so uh you're familiar with fmk fuck marry kill so kind of rank them as you see fit what was the other one um it was like it was like lick fondle tickle or oh god yeah who said that was so awkward uh no that was fucking hilarious it was but it was just like it was it was hard to it was because i had to like really think of like well which one do i want to do to this thing because it's fmk to me it's just rank it one two three in my head that's like how my brain works but the this this one was like one was so different because they were all a little skewed.

It was really funny. For some reason, I think it was Brad the Pad, but maybe not. I can't recall. Mad Cow, FMK. We're going to give you cheese steaks, cheesecake, and cheese. FMK, cheese steak,

cheesecake, and cheeses. Just think of like a hard cheese or just a finger cheese. I'm going to interject. Okay, what do you want to... So it's FMK, cheesesteak, cheesecake.

What is your favorite cheese? Monster. Yeah? It has been since I was a kid.. All right. So that's the one. Has been since I was a kid. There you go. So that's the one you're going to put in here. So you're going to FMK,

cheesesteak, cheesecake, or that Munster cheese. I mean, that's, yeah, that's a lot. I thought your,

I thought if I killed cheese, I was losing all cheese. Nope. Just Munster. I mean, honestly, there, there are similar cheeses so if I could never have

Jess Munster I would kill Munster I mean there's similar cheeses that's so I'll kill Munster even though I love it another good one I love me some cheesecake and cheeseste steak so I fucking hate cheesecake

so oh god end call well I don't I know I don't I don't eat cake in general like we know this we've talked about I don't really like cake it's more of a I don't know what I would call it it's not much of a cake yeah I would

agree no I'm much more of a pie guy my wife has been making me a cheesecake every year for my birthday nice i dig it uh they're incredible but i would have to marry cheese steaks because that's like an actual meal and every time my wife makes that cheesecake and i eat nothing but that for four meals and then feel so then I have a stomach ache for four days. Cause she still hear you. No, she went upstairs.

Okay, good. That's great. Cause you're never getting one again after she hears this. I mean, she knows that it's out of the fridge in two days and it was like 15,000 calories. So that just leaves the F cheese steak then.esteak then so yeah i dig it i think that's about it i would definitely he said mary he's gonna marry cheesesteak yeah that's what i

said kill munster yeah and f cheesecake yeah i might misspoke but yes i i agree wholeheartedly with those things uh good good answers i enjoyed that um one thing that we're probably not going to get to as a topic later, but I'm also curious if this is someone that's fucking with you or if it's, you know, a thing, but overrated is peeing standing up. Is that something that you feel that peeing standing up

is overrated or is that a buddy fucking with you? I think that's underrated. I don't know who would say it's overrated. You know what? I don't know where that's underrated. I don't know who would say it's overrated. You know what? I don't know where that's coming from. If your only option is toilet, peeing and standing up is overrated.

Just have a nice sit. Absolutely. Okay, finally. Finally, Keith twitching. I sit down to pee like fucking 80 of the time i don't give a shit what anybody says make a man oh buddy i used to get called all the all the names because i sit down to pee but like i've got some medical problems where sometimes i just can't control where it goes i can't control the stream i can't control the strength so if i'm at somebody else's

house i'm sitting down because i'm gonna make. Like, so, and then it was just like, would you like blah, blah, blah, blah, like whatever the words, those types of guys would use, just have a nice sit down, tuck it in.

I'm not old enough yet that I'm touching water. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty funny. There's no, this is going to be a controversial take. We're going to get, we're going to get picked on,

but I don't really care. Especially in the middle of the night. I can't. I'm not going to turn a light on in like... And I'm also not going to aim very... I don't know. I just sit down to pee at night every time, for sure. Yeah.

I mean, I think it's just a much better option if there's just like a regular house bathroom. Absolutely. You're not going to just act like if you miss, you're going to hit the seat or the floor. It's like,

if it's in like a bar, it's whatever, but yeah. But if it's your house or somebody else's, I don't live in a bar and you're, you're six beers deep and you're just like, Oh fuck, I'm tired.

I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. Just sit down and go, man. It's so much more comfortable. Forget the notions of it. Yeah. And if I'm peeing outside, I'm standing up because that's fucking weird.

I'm not. I'm not squatting to piss on my heels, but. Yeah, good. I think an outdoor pee is probably underrated. And standing up indoors is way overrated. Absolutely. Alright, good call. Good call.

Alright, we did the 40-40 challenge. Does he have mad cow disease? No, we're not going to ask that question because probably not. I feel like your brain is probably normal sized right now, although somebody did mention that you're one of the smartest people they know. And that's really cool.

That's a good thing. It's been going downhill. Due to the mad cow disease. It's hard. Yeah, due to the... It's hard being smart. You can't keep up all the time. You can't just do it your whole life.

You just got to give it up. So did your hosting of water bong uh water bonging essentially like you basically ran like a beer bong but with water like a thon was that a thing you did in high school yeah yeah that that is that's one of the events in high school that i mentioned like organizing nice did that uh did that prepare you for your college years of like being a party animal or anything or like beer bong I've never beer bonged water I don't know if it would be like beer bonging water

I also feel like water party isn't a thing that like is in our realm no that might be on the hub like how often were you guys actually bonging beers in college I feel like that never actually happened

yeah maybe like three times in high school I didn't really I don't know I was just you there was beer chugging there was beer shotgunning there was tag stands occasionally but I probably bonged like two beers in college like I don't think everyone did

like nobody does that because nobody wants to be asleep I don't think everyone did. Nobody does that. Because nobody wants to be asleep playing 9pm. I just thought it wasn't a popular thing to have around. So I would say it didn't really train me for anything because it wasn't utilized. Yeah. No, I think sometimes I got handed those things and I was like, no, I'm not fucking stupid. Shotgunning beers, I think I've done more than anything else.

Right? Where you pop it and you see how much you can get down in one go without throwing up. There was like a period of time at my law school where I was like being challenged to shotgun progressively bigger cans of beer. And it was, yeah, obviously it's like that become the thing. So that was, if anything, there was shotgunning. It's like, all right, I shot them like a beer and it was yeah obviously it's like that become the thing so that was if anything there was shotgun it's like all right i shot them like a beer and then someone's like shotgun this 16

ounce beer shotgun this 24 ounce beer shotgun this foster's 26 ounce what's this i guess it's big the worst beer ever it's not great it's very creamy from what I remember, but I drink Keith's. So what the fuck can I say? Uh, I'm not creamy. What? I said, I'm not creamy.

Oh, your name is Keith. Yeah. That's why it's funny, David. David's plural. Um, I'm going to do a Mount Rushmore word.

If you're, if you're ready there, Madco. So this one came from friends, of course. So if this one sucks, I'll move on. But top four rappers. Like all time? Your question, man. Mount Rushmore?

If there was four rappers that you could listen to and only these four for the rest of your life who are those four yeah i'm gonna go just by like my personal preference obviously like you said your question yeah i was a yeah i was a really big childish gambino fan like back in uh i would say that would have had to been like 2013 to like 2018 time frame. I'm still a Gambino fan. And at the zoo, I got him to play Bonfire.

And he played the edited version, which fucking sucked. But like, it was like me and Nate Thomas from Build Fast Formula. Nobody else understood what was going on. And me and Nate were just like, this is the best fucking song I've played all night. So do you know the music video for sweatpants? Yep. Where they're in the diner. Yeah.

And he's on the mushroom trip. So when it opens up, you're looking down the diner, right? Yep. And then there's two guys at the end of the row in the diner stall or in the, in the booth. That's me and my the end of the row in the diner stall or in the, in the booth. That's me and my friend. Shut the fuck up. Yep.

Really? Go back and check. I have short hair. Yeah. And no, no facial hair. Oh, I can't wait.

I can't wait. I know that guy. I know that guy. I'm going to do that. Cause I used to watch that when my wife and I first met that album had just come out and that song and sober were like the song and we used to dance to that all the time like at weddings and everything like that was our dance song was sweatpants and sober yeah my uh my one of my roommates in california

was a guy in high school and he was out there trying to be like an actor and comedian. And, uh, so he was auditioning for stuff, but he only had a moped and we lived, uh, in the South Bay, which is, uh, uh, across the whole LA and down by the beach.

It's like way down there. So he's like, yo, can you drive me to this audition in LA? I only have the mopeds. I drove him there and they're like, we need two dudes that are like-looking dudes to be in this music video. Do you guys both want to do it?

I was like, and they're like, it's for Childish Gambino. I was like, that is my favorite rapper. We got to do this. We got to go to that shoot. It was pretty sweet. That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm a huge Gambino fan. The new album, I think he's going to make

a horror movie. Have you listened to any of the new album? Nope, wait, he froze. Okay, so... I don't think I've listened to any new rap albums in five years. So there's a lot of pop punk on this album. Actually. And it's very interrupted with scenes,

which sounds like a horror movie and then the video for lithuania or lithonia which is a three minute song the video is actually only a minute and a half because halfway through it turns into a horror movie and i don't think i've laughed so hard in my life as i was watching that video and he's doing the song and I know the song cause it's been in all of his, um, all of this stuff. And I just started, I was like, okay, this video has got to be great. And then half of the video turns into a horror movie. I hit the floor. I was laughing so hard that Morgan came in and she was like, what is so funny? So I showed her and she's like, I get it. That was actually really funny so i do think um

he's this new album has some pop punk shit it has some it has some of the best rapping i think he's ever done and then it also is i think him leading into i'm going to make a horror movie that's sick i only caught part of that because it was breaking up but i think i got the gist i'll definitely have to check out the new one yeah yeah absolutely uh there's a song with him and a kid and it might be his kid and it's like a dad rapping to the kid and the kid rapping back to the dad and like i was like in tears listening to that shit like that was awesome so i think gambino i know where i know he says he's retiring the gambino uh persona uh but if this is how he's retiring the Gambino persona but if this is how he's going that's fucking amazing

but either way sorry we found something we can riff about so that was one I will I gotta put Kanye on there because his original catalog

just too good uh i gotta i gotta put run the jewels on there just because like that's my hype music for lifting and i gotta put on number four would be i'm gonna put this one on there just for nostalgia i'm gonna put souls of mischief because the 93 till infinity album was like my snowboarding album in high school. I would just have the headphones and just snowboard for the entire day. Souls of Mischief with the beast going on. So not only were you a volleyball player, you were a snowboarder. I've done so many activities and stuff.

Like, I feel like i pick up a new thing like every year or something and like my wife's like all right just no nobody gave us that how long have you been doing though like his grip something like uh probably like a year and change me like 15 months damn so i did strongman i did strongman for like a couple years after like covid and i had my home gym built out i started like i put on some weight and i was like i can actually move some weight like i was never considering myself strong at all and like lifting for volleyball and stuff like that i was more of just like a bouncy like fast guy i was a track guy i did track i did cross country i did volleyball i basketball, soccer, all the normal stuff growing up, baseball, football.

And then like I played rugby for a couple of years in my twenties and the juggling stuff. So I just, I'll pick up like any sport, try it. Like I'll just go for it. So you're just one of those freak athletes. We don't get them a lot on here very often. Like you can just pick something up and do it uh i'm not one of those guys like you know you hear stories about like these like nfl quarterbacks they're like oh we brought them to our like basketball game that had like d1 basketball

players and they're the best player on the floor like i'm not that no but like i'm i'm a power lifter and if you put me on a basketball court I'm going to be like slapping stuff around like I can't do everything if you put me in like a high school varsity level

like game like what is your okay least, most fun, least fun sport that you've picked up, most fun sport that you've picked up? Yeah, that's tough. I'll throw a random one at you for most fun, just because you get to do a lot of running uh ultimate frisbee is very fun yep it's a it's ultimate frisbee is probably the best pickup sport especially co-ed like it's the best co-ed sport everyone matches up with someone that's a similar level as long

as you're matched up with someone that's similar level to you, like the game works great. So that's a great, like show up to like a meetup or like a pickup game. That's very fun. What is, what is not fun? And I feel like I wouldn't do it if it wasn't fun. So I made it a lot of fun.

At least tried it once kind of thing. Like you did, you invested like 10 minutes into it like not for me i did like competitive ping pong for a couple months and i like the game itself is very fun but the people that do competitive ping pong are pretty dry it's like a 12 year old chinese kid and like really weird 40 year old guy that sounds like us so you're literally you could do the arnold like you could go and just pick up and be like i'm gonna have fun doing any of these events the slap boxing the midi could you do medieval could you do medieval? Could you do medieval sword fighting? I don't know. I never tried it.

I could tell you that I'm not doing slap fighting. No, I don't want to get hit in the face. No thank you to any question. I would say I don't know if I can do powerlifting. I'm not that strong. Everybody can do powerlifting. That's the great thing about powerlifting.

That's true. You guys heard it here first. Medieval sword fighting is coming in Mad Cow's future because it's the only one he hasn't done, apparently. A carpool with Murph this year and knock that out. I went to one arm wrestling. And I like that. That's very grip adjacent.

Most grip arm wrestle wrestle at least like casually a good amount yeah i i don't have time to try to get into it though i remember that one day i showed up at a pub here my favorite pub actually i go to it all the time and there was just some guys sitting beside me and they were talking about competing and they were just like oh yeah we're gonna go to this competition and that competition and i just leaned over and i was like hey guys i'm a i'm a power lifter and like what are you into and they're like we're in the we're into um arm wrestling and they were like oh yeah the my daughter here just challenged the former champion at like one of their last meets and those people are so big like they'd like their upper body is

just so big and i i see them every once in a while and like we still kind of recognize each other but like yeah so good luck i watched devin lair at arm wrestle like this like 400 pound bodybuilder is on like an ad like an exhibition at a uh i think it was in buffalo at like a fitness expo like probably fucking seven or eight years ago i don't know and it was crazy like just to see him just demolish the guy and toy with him and play with him was very amusing and like was that i was at adam sure because i think i've seen that video i'm not sure he's bron strowman he's a wrestler he is six feet tall and very very no this is just a juicy fucking body but like this was just a bodybuilder i think it was like big frank or something i think he might have been like a buffalo like a low local buffalo kind of guy but it was solely just a bit to kind of like

you know get some publicity because he had like no you know place arm wrestling devon larrett all right uh unpaid and underrated time, I think. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah, I'm good with that. Unless you wanted to. I don't understand the question Jen submitted. I don't understand how to read it. I don't know if I'm sorry. Which one is it?

The sublime one. Like, I understand what that song is. I just don't get the other reference. I don't know if it's worth throwing out there. Maybe Mad Cal gets it. I don't know. I'm already confused. Okay. So on a scale of sublime

caress me down is he higher or lower than gi joe kung fu grip does that make sense to you i don't know if i'm reading it right i'm assuming that's just a grip reference yeah due to the kung fu I'm going to say I have better grip than any rando. I believe they're referring to a woman doing a ZJ

or an AJ. You can't afford a ZJ. I just watched that movie a couple weeks ago. You had a ZJ? What is it? Unless it's uh the queen of grip sarah chapelo i'm taking my grip against any random woman mentioned in the song roger that all right uh unpaid or underrated similar to this uh game someone else started overrated or underrated you know we are more refined than that this is unpaid or underrated. You know, we are more refined than that. This is unpaid or underrated. So anything you,

uh, think kind of sucks, we'll call that unpaid. Anything that's awesome, go underrated. So mad cow, number one here, uh,

Joey and I had to do three or four, uh, blobs. What do you think about blob training? Uh, man, people, I,

it's not for me so much. I think it's cool, but I'm going to have to say unpaid, not because I don't think it's cool, but I'm going to have to say I'm paid not because I don't think it's cool, but it's just, it's like a single implement, essentially just different sizes that people spend like thousands of dollars collecting.

Dream financial investment for sure. I almost got a bent a hundred pound York dumbbell that almost fell into my lap of marketplace for like $200. I could have cut it in half and sold it for like $300. You absolutely could have. I did that. I mean, blobs are cool. I've tried them a few times and all. I think it's cool when people do like the feasts and like the big ones.

There's one that Brian Shaw had only done until recently. And Jalen Worley, warley w grip just did so it's now the shaw war league blob i guess that's awesome uh the 150 york legacy is that what it is i think that is correct and so he named it after himself like i do remember that yeah 10 years ago yeah yeah yeah jaylen got a hold of one and just did one and he actually lives like 30 minutes from a show and I think he's going to get to do a blob run at the Saw Classic

arm lifting event but personally I'm not a huge like that's not into it enough to want to spend a grand on we have them here I have them like 30 up to 90 and

10 pound jumps like halves uh and it's just fun to watch my buddies do it like i had i had a guy here last week that he could have lifted the 90 uh it just wasn't here my other buddy took it to strip it because it was it was painted so he wanted to like basically strip it down to bare and let it kind of uh season it up with chalk so i was very that was kind of like it all just kind of happened to where he just the one guy that i knew that could lift it easily was here and i didn't have the damn blob so i kind of felt bad about that but uh all right so blobs we're gonna go unpaid yeah uh moving on i have i have done the fat man but oh nice dad damn yeah i think i've only ever done a 70 i don't think i've gotten my 80. I haven't gotten the 70.

I like the level of grip people that I know online and compete with. That's very common. I'm not a great club lifter, I guess. Have you hub lifted any deep dish

before? Not really. I don't know if I have anything that exciting to do i have the shizwit 35s maybe you gotta go hang out you gotta go commute over to rob and do some uh york deep dish hub lifting yeah i'm not like that type of blob hub not really necessarily my strengths i'm like okay roger okay um moving on here uh unpaid or underrated hopefully this brings up some Not really necessarily my strengths. I'm like, okay. Roger. Okay. Moving on here. Unpaid or underrated. Hopefully this brings up some contention with Joey. The Eagles.

I fucking hate the Eagles. Unpaid or underrated. The Eagles. The band. The band? I'm assuming. No, I think this was the sports sports sports team oh yeah fuck you're right god damn it well i mean if it's anything directed towards me it's got to be the yeah but the band uh yeah let's let's let's leave it at the band because i already know your answer

for the music for the for the team fuck yeah the philadelphia connections went right over my head when i read that because i was like oh excited to fucking think oh he loves the eagles this is gonna make joey so mad fuck what do you make me mad for something for his questions i don't give a fuck sorry i was in the car today and like the kids were screaming and my and my wife took an hour to get ready and i was so done with and the the Beatles came on and I was just so fucking, I fucking hate the Beatles. And the song came on, it started and I was listening and I was just like,

I don't want to listen to any, I don't want to control the radio. And it got halfway through the song. And I was like, you know what? Fuck this. I put on lamb of God. Cause I was like,

I'm so done with this. So anyway, how do you feel about the Beatles uh they're definitely got to be overrated for their like level of we don't play that game here wrong game wrong game unpaid underrated so unpaid he thinks they're unpaid yeah I gotta go on I gotta go unpaid because they're not underrated at all I think they're okay i don't have a problem with them but i got you i don't see that the beatles man i don't see it yeah i feel that one um the eagles like are the the number one ride the line band like if you could tell me one thing they do really well is he a really good vocalist no he's he's kind of good is he a really good guitarist no No, he's, he's kind of good. Is he a really good guitarist? No,

he's like kind of good. Like they are the ride the line band. It's like Bon Jovi, the Eagles, the Beatles are a fucking boy band for all I'm concerned. Like my patience with the Beatles is really slim. So they're on the same level as Grant's podcast. That's what it said.

Okay. They're okay. They're okay. I see what you said okay that was good that's our cousin podcast the okay yep all right i got two more here i'm gonna cherry pick a couple i put in uh so unpaid or underrated banana flavored desserts uh way underrated. I put that one in. So, definitely underrated. I knew that. Name three banana... I'm drawing a blank on banana. I mean, a banana cream pie, I guess. Like a frozen banana? Banana pudding, banana cream pie.

Banana... Banana pudding is fucking best here. You're right yeah banana split okay that that'll make sense okay so i was drawing a blank initially just quick challenge not quick challenge question even uh artificial banana or real banana which one's better uh real banana is better but I do like the banana. Yeah. Yeah.

Banana. Laughed at the, uh, Chupa Chups or whatever they're called. Somebody's going to call me up for saying that wrong. Chupa Chups. Yeah. I don't know what that is. Are you saying bananas? Are you referring to the suckers? Oh, okay.

I was going to go there. Yeah. They're just little suckers. They're I think from Spain. Is it a dehydrated meat sucker? No, no. It's literally just a sucker called Chupa Chupa. I know. I'm hard on you.

But they have like a banana chocolate one and it's like artificial banana. Like sometimes artificial banana slaps. Like sometimes it does. Okay. Follow up. Is a dehydrated banana chip a dessert?

No. It no trail mix and those aren't that good yeah that's my least favorite banana item okay what's your most favorite banana item she would take those over or take a rotten banana over that if it's grossly rotten

what's your most shut up keith what's your most favorite fuck you what's your most favorite banana item probably like banana cream pie or like all right not a straight up banana i fucking love bananas i love it i like i i eat a ton of bananas just like every morning. I could eat like four. Yeah. I'm making it sound like I just eat bananas all day, every day.

It's not the case, but well, what did that one? I said, I think I said it here before. What's that one baseball player monkey don't cramp. Right. That one baseball player when he was like,

I had a cramp. So I had a banana and they were like, why? And he was just like, well, monkey don't cramp. So I eat bananas. And I was just like like that's so fucking genius so like i try and eat every lifting day i have a banana in the morning because monkey don't for some reason when i was in college like i was moving out of my dorm for like summer or something my sister came

and we had like a two-hour drive from maryland back to philly and we had we had like a bunch of like seven bananas and i was like no real reason but i like had them like on the senator console and i was like because we cleaned out the dorm and i was just like i was like hey like we gotta finish these before we finish this drive and she's like why i'm like it has to be done and she's like i don't's like, how many do you expect me to eat? And she ate like half a banana, so I had to crush it. Six and a half. So, okay.

Obviously, you're part of the Discord. Stem part or bottom part? I was going to ask that. Or the way that I do them. I cut them in half, and I make a nice slice in the peel, and then I eat half at a time. If I'm serving them to my kids, I I cut them in half and I make a nice slice in the peel and then I eat half at a time. If I'm serving them to my kids, I'll cut them in half and

I'll slice the peel with the knife and then I'll peel them except for the bottom and I'll chop them so they all kind of stay in a row. Yep. Personally, I was always ripping the stem until like a couple years ago I transitioned to that.

Yeah, the asshole of the banana is the way to eat the banana for sure it's easier to peel it feels that way you crush less banana that way sorry Keith I don't think I've tried it that way before didn't mean to swear at you on that one shut up Keith I have questions I have banana specific

questions that's why we're here I definitely interject on yours when I'm Shut up, Keith. I have questions. I have banana-specific questions. That's why we're here. I definitely interject on yours when I'm... When I was putting in some items for the docket, for some reason on my mind, I was just like,

why are there so many lemon desserts? They're not that good. They're not that good. You got one more, Keith? Over-represented. Yeah, I'll do one more, and we can let Joey go. So, unpaid or underrated, Saxon Grips,

like the newer implement from AbMad, if you're familiar with that. One of my buddies is the creator. You don't let that sway your opinion of them, because I have my own opinions of them. Oh, you're talking to an influencer yeah i gotta say unpaid um but yeah actually you have i do like your hands on them before i do like i have had my hands on them before for a single one on like a dumbbell but any i'm sure it's like a good straining tool but anything that's malleable as a grip like

implement that you're going to train or like compete on it's it's inconsistent so like fat grips as like an implement it's a little tough because they squish a little bit and they can twist and whatnot i think metal is the way to go makes sense all right i relinquish my turn uh so like you know some behind the scenes shit um i've actually been removing a lot of the stuff from the interview questions and moving them to unpaid and underrated because I, I really, yeah, I really felt like I was going to get more here. Um, I might ask three, maybe five, if that's okay with you guys.

Roll it. All right. Mad cow. So, um, unpaid or underrated, how print lift shorts? Underrated? Like, I don't see why there isn't a print catalog on the mass economic store already. I mean, it was briefly discussed at the Arnold.

Maybe the jorts would be a good option. Yep. That's why I brought it up. Yeah, at the Arnold, you were just like, so you got camo, you got blue, you got blue you got black like why don't you guys get cal right and they were like why and you were like obvious reasons i think i was wearing cal print gym shorts you absolutely were you absolutely were which is why i brought that one up um for those maybe that aren't aware uh at the Arnold, Mad Cow walked up and introduced himself.

And I handed him my phone and said, pick a fucking date. You're coming on my podcast. Which I do to a lot of you guys. Yeah, he does. Sorry, not sorry. Like, I don't know what to tell you. We can just add him to the backlog and then we can schedule him. But yeah, it's all good.

If there's an open date, get people on, man. They'll show up. There's a lot of open dates. Unpaid or underrated Orbit gum wrappers? Underrated? I feel like you can do random things with gum wrappers in general. You can almost like silver flake things with them, can't you? Just kind of like paste them on stuff.

I don't know. I don't know what the meaning behind that is, but I think they're... Some rappers are kind of rush to that. So that might have been one of the things your friends threw in that they thought were funny. That's fine. I imagine...

There's gotta be... Siblings. The only people that... There's gotta be a story behind that that I'm not there's probably some there's got to be a story behind that that i'm not remembering right now that's right well let us know if it comes to you later unpaid or underrated uh ai songs i think they're underrated for the next few months and then they're it'll catch up and swing the other way this it's extremely fun to make like very specific things very quickly and just have a good time so like were you the originator of our the one that i'm

that one that i play regularly i know you submitted like several it's just hard to think back exactly were you the one like the og one that i'm always listening to as far as I know the only one that was on the discord that I didn't make was the OG lifting and drinking one did you do ours I did a Keith I did a Big Matt

I did a Minnesota Department of Lifter Safety and then I did the Brad the Pat outstanding yeah make sure we post that in the show notes safety and then I did the Brad the Pat. Outstanding. Make sure we post that in the show notes. Alright. Unpaid or underrated Natty Light?

No underrated for that. It's inoffensive. It's just as strong as Bud Light. Super. I it's probably has more flavor than and it's cheaper so i'll go with underrated all right all right all right last one possibly my favorite unpaid or underrated being one of only three crew members that are actually in my recording studio right now there's you scott dodds and keith uh everybody else's name is here but you're the only one with an actual picture unpaid that's gotta be on that's underrated nice uh yeah i

guess showed up at the arnold joey you want an autographed picture and in my head i was like i actually only kind of know who you are but yes i want one of your autographed pictures can you describe the picture to us uh it's a completely unedited photo of me doing a raw beltless double overhand deadlift with an axle for about a thousand pounds. Yeah, yeah, that's well It's also in a dairy barn. Yeah, and he signed it.

He said Big Joey keep on grooving. Keep on grooving. Big mad cow. And then I forgot it and I messaged

Tanner I was like shit dude I forgot that and he's like I got it yeah and like I said earlier it showed up in my

next order I think the only thing we didn't touch on that I thought we were going to was the Windows XP

background that you got in the gym where did is that literally something you made? Is that something you like, where did that come from and why? So obviously I have a lot of cow themed banter in my Instagram with all the grip people.

Cause they only know me as mad cow. I wear a cow get up. Oh, so I guess it's just that it's like a passion. So yeah, it's, I it's like a pasture yeah so yeah it's i called it the grip pasture so i already had a small area that's that's just for like storage that was turf and i was like i want a dedicated little area for my grip stuff that's like set aside and i'll get chalk only over there for the most part and i was like i could just do

an astroturf little stage and then I found this background says the Madhouse Grit Pasture definitely makes sense I had a couple questions about that and it just never came up until the end so let's not sleep on the AstroTurf lifting pad I fucking love that

every time I see that on your Instagram I die laughing that's so funny and I wish I i die laughing and that's so funny and i wish i could do it because that's really funny all right uh well that i think runs us out and we're approaching two hours so uh mad cow do you have anything for us today i was gonna have a two-part uh hybrid game of over underrated and Mount Rushmore. I'll stick to one part and we'll go in the positive direction.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of underrated Olympic sports for you guys. By that I mean the most underrated. We can stick to the summer game. I fucking love gymnastics. I don't know if it's under the summer game. I fucking love gymnastics.

I don't know if it's underrated or not. If there was like, when I was a kid, I was into that kind of stuff, like backyard wrestling and flips and stuff. I love that kind of stuff, parkour. And I watch the gymnastics, the tumbling in particular, is so amazing to me.

And you want to see strong humans. I can squat some weight. I can deadlift some weight. But I can't jump 10 feet in the air and land on my feet and not have three of my joints scream at me. joints, she'd scream at me. So even though these kids are like 20 years old and like Mike Gisertel says, they're made of rubber and magic because they're just strong and young. I think that would be, to me, so underrated that you watch those kids do that. Simone Biles, I think, Biles, I don't know. I only see the name. I don't hear it. That woman is from the US and has just demolished the Olympics because she's so strong and so good at what she does.

I also really enjoy the uneven bars. Apparently, I learned in high school, men don't do that. Men don't do the uneven bars. But I really wanted to because that looked like so much fun, but my gym teacher talked me out of it. So I think that that would be the one that I would put as underrated for sure. For sure. Yeah. For, for brevity, we could just do like one each.

Keith isn't here. Oh, there he is. I was, I don't watch the Olympics hard. I don't, I Olympics hard. I don't turn my TV over to the cable very often, so I don't think I've watched any of the Olympics this year. But if I would have to answer one, if I had to go one right now, I would go basketball solely because our friend of the podcast, Jacob Ross, is the strength coach for the South Sudan team. So that's actually pretty cool to like someone that i've talked to many times in dms and like i've had a like several year rapport with is actually

like coaching essentially a strength you know coaching the strength aspect of a olympic sports team right now i just think that's sick as shit so i guess basketball for that uh unpaid is fencing fencing fucking sucks i don't understand it you have these wobbly swords you got like a lasso on your back and like if you get too close they pull you back like i i don't understand fencing and at no point does anybody ever go here are the rules nobody ever tells you this is this is what fencing is like i understand touche like if you touch with the tip of your sword then that's a point but why the lasso why are they they sound wobbly like i i just don't i wish i understood why like i don't understand why there's like three different ones too yeah i just don't get it i don't get fencing and i think the fencing the the attitude of the fencing

announcer is like if you don't understand already you're too poor to know we don't want you to know yeah okay yeah also fuck that but like I'm sitting there watching it today going like what and then and today I think it was like South Korea versus

I don't remember who and they both touched at the same time and there was a big fight about it. And it's like, well, that's just called a tie. Like in every other sport, if you both get a point at the same time,

that's a tie. It's not a fight. Why is this controversy? Like I don't understand. So yeah, that's a good call. That's my most unpaid Olympic sport. You got time,

you got time, man. You got some time. You want to do any games, any questions? Go ahead. That was my main one. I was going to do an under or overrated one or a couple. Let's go. Keith, fire away.

Keith sounds like he's not an Olympic watcher. I'm just looking at a list of sports that I don't watch. I don't really have much to add to this. Joey, do you have one that you think is extremely... I guess you did it on the radio already. I don't get how flag football is an Olympic sport. That's just weird

to me. I got a list of things that should not be Olympic sports. I feel like half the sports listed shouldn't be sports. Or are we losing wrestling next year? They dropped

baseball and softball and added breakdancing. Really? Yeah. dropped like baseball and softball and added like break dancing really that's yeah i i just don't understand how some things are sports and i'm a power lifter so at the same time like what the fuck do i do i lift things up and then somebody goes you lifted that well put it down then i put it down and if i don't put it down nice enough they go well that wasn't a good lift like so i i guess like i understand how some things can't be sports i think i said it at the retard the vz if i hear rack bench press or whatever you know bench press rack again i'm gonna fucking lose my mind because

those are the stupidest commands like i hate bench pressing with all of my life i guess i kind of understand how some stupid shit is a sport but like break dancing like well congratulations you did that head spin better than the last guy did a fucking hand toss flip so that's a point like i just don't get how you point that's another opinion. I struggle with the subjective judging. There's some of that in gymnastics, I guess, but there's a catalog of specific

moves that add up. I guess figure skating is similar, but I imagine breakdancing and surfing have similar things, but it seems very, very subjective in surfing, breakdancing, skateboarding and stuff like that like we have the x we have the x games we have the x games where do you find a breakdancing judge where do you find the best breakdancing judge level like you know what you

are so good at watching people fucking dance. Early 90s, right? You know what? You're going to move to Tango Town. You're going to judge Tango too. We're going to bring that but at the same time, again, powerlifting. There's a lot of stuff in there that's cool but I don't see how this is

an objective Olympic decision for medals and prestige. The one thing that stood out the most I think that I saw on my Instagram or Facebook feed was the guy that showed up for like the handgun shooting thing without any added stuff. He just had his pistol and a pair of glasses and everyone else had

like all these fucking like radar glasses and shit and like hearing protection. He just said he took silver with just his fucking gun basically. I thought that was kind of amusing he didn't put ears on like everybody puts ears on yeah I'd assume he's probably can half deaf already

you both of you are more protected for like gun sounds anyway yeah for sure yeah that was all I had for any kind of uh rebuttal Yeah. For sure. All right. Yeah. That was all I had for any kind of a rebuttal activity. No,

that works for us. Sorry. I let everyone down with my, uh, my not being up to date on the Olympics. I don't know. I just, everything, I feel like everything's changed since I,

like, since we don't have like, I don't, I don't have to switch over to live TV to watch TV and I have to go like open up apps to go see live TV. Now I'm just not going out of my way to find stuff. I'm not sneaking shit out. I have like an hour

or two hours a day invested that I can invest in stuff. I'm not searching. I'm not flipping the channels. I guess maybe four years from now I'll get back into it. All right. I guess we can round it out then. Where do we find you guys? Madcow. Big Madcow. Underscore Madcow. alright I guess we can round it out then where do we find you guys mad cow big mad cow underscore mad cow

underscore with a K and you can find me and all my affiliate links at up city pneumonia barbell rescue plate snacks home gym congo use unpaid at all those I am Keith Hunica you can follow me on Instagram Keith Hunica 73 more importantly go follow my orange gym the no wine cellar please

you can follow me at Instagram, Keith Hunnicutt 73. More importantly, go follow my orange gym, the no wine seller, please. Good. Follow me at, uh, Joey underscore Malesko. Do not go and tag our affiliates in our swearing reel, but that is one of my favorite things we have done the past little while, which was the,

uh, ah, oh, that was a good reel. And I really hope that the person who tagged that impression to me or, or, or first pointed it out to me comes through with an impression. Big things coming. Uh,

I think there's another contest coming. We might push that off maybe till October, but there is another competition coming from us as well. Um, Matt fucking guy. Um, so he did submit a few things and going, and you know what?

Like having spent the entire weekend with Matt, I think going forward, I'm going to have Matt submit questions for every episode. And that way he has to fucking show up. And I think that's going to come up and, uh, I'll message him later this week to, to see how that goes.

Uh, otherwise, come on, man, just show up to this podcast. Like this is getting out of hand. that's going to come up and I'll message him later this week to, to see how that goes. Otherwise, come on, man, just show up to this podcast. Like this is getting out of hand. Instagram, unpaid and underrated podcast website, unpaid intern podcast.com.

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