Unpaid And Underrated - 066 : Oiled Suede

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Ryan and Big Shelby from Bearfoot Shoes. They dive right into some hard hitting topics like doing laundry, 5 star ratings, PRX, hot garbage men, and Crumbl Cookies. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Check out Bearfoot Shoes online @ bearfoot.store (https://bearfoot.store) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest Follow Bearfoot Shoes On Instagram @bearfootshoes (https://www.instagram.com/bearfootshoes/) Follow Ryan On Instagram @ryanbothun (https://www.instagram.com/ryanbothun/) Follow Shelby On Instagram @grabanlift (https://www.instagram.com/grabanlift/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guests: Big Ryan and Big Shelby.

all right everybody welcome to episode 25 000 of the unpaid and underrated podcast podcast by crew for crew and relentlessly mocked by the crew and sometimes people outside of the crew that's always weird to hear i am joined by my friend, Big Keith. And that was Big Joey, and I am Big Keith. I am Big Joey, and I forget every week to introduce myself. Like, it's my first time here. Definitely two out of the last three. Like, I haven't been on episode 2,499.

One day you'll get her. Yeah, we are joined by our friends friends big ryan and big shelby if you want to introduce yourselves yeah uh yeah ryan boppen for anybody who's curious how to say the last name uh and i am one of the barefoot guys and then shelby is my wife and she's started started to call herself mrs barefoot uh and uh yeah we're happy to be here i uh my official title for well i've had many many bs titles with barefoot but the official one that i stole from crew is unpaid intern. And that's just the, that's just the best description of my actual role. So some people will hear me say like, like on, Oh, like we are, we are so happy that like you are satisfied with your shoe or whatever. Yeah. I'm not like,

I'm not that we I've I'm, I'm way over here. So I have, but it is what it is. Are you barefoot adjacent then? Is that. That is probably appropriate. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. On paid intern couldn't be more true. Yeah. I don't feel great about it, but she's packing quite a few shoes for free. My favorite though, my favorite though though is representing barefoot at events like if that could be my job doing trade shows and stuff like that i would i'm totally an extrovert love sales and stuff like that so that is by far

my favorite thing well i'm sure when we get our guests on we'll talk to them more about that kind of thing oh yeah um yeah but as it stands right now let's get into the uh the crew portion of this uh my first question is what's everybody drinking right now like what's your drink of the drink of choice well as i just took a sip of it uh fresca which looks like she has to that's uh that's our uh household favorite at the moment so extremely underrated drink i don't have fresca here in canada so i've never actually really had that oh no way huh well it's uh kind of a drink that died out here like i i don't think it really it has been popular in the last couple decades or at least since i've been alive but uh uh i think it's making a comeback at least with us and it's

a grapefruit soda but to me it does not taste like grapefruit because i actually hate grapefruit and i love fresca so and for those of you grapefruit people out there, I do like grapefruit and I also like fresca, but I also would agree that it's more of like a citrus drink. One, uh, one of my little brother's friends who definitely likes his soda, uh, compared to squirt, which is like maybe, but, um, but yeah, but it's also zero Cal. So it's, that was my next question was how much sugar is in it. Yeah. It's basically a sparkling water, but just way better. I've heard of Fresca, obviously like it's, it's in popular culture. So I've seen it on family guy and Simpsons and stuff,

but I don't think I've ever had one. Is all Fresca sugar-free or is that a sugar-free Fresca that I don't recall? Cause I haven't had it since I was a kid and I would have been, I wouldn it's all fresco sugar free or is that a sugar free fresco that I don't recall? Cause I haven't had it since I was a kid and I would have been, I wouldn't have been thinking about sugar content back then. So as far as I know, I think all of them are zero Cal. Yeah. Yeah.

This is the original. But it says it, it says it was estimated established. I always think estimated when I see EST established in 1966. Estimatedlished. I always think estimated when I see EST. Established in 1966. Estimated 1966. Give or take. An estimate. But yeah, so it's been around since the 60s. And yeah, it was the OG sparkling water way before its time. So even Forrest Gump would have had Nebraska, I think, at some point. That's cool.

Keith, what do you got? Wegmans Orange Mandarin, as always. Well, I'm mixing it up. I'm drinking a non-alcoholic Guinness. There you go. How is that? Probably the best non-alcoholic beer I've ever had. I've given that recommendation to a few friends that are you know non-alcoholic

beverage consumers yeah it definitely slaps like when you're when you're craving that beer and you're like man i really want that carbonation i want that flavor this one really slaps and uh you know been uh does the does the flavor differ a lot from the alcoholic one or not not at all and that's the best really yeah no Yeah. Um, after the lift hard, the VD, I was still on vacation for like another week and I just demolished myself because I had nothing to do. So like you'd wake up and then you'd do your chores and you go, well, I'd have a beer. And then by nine o'clock you're like, I'm beard out. I'm going to bed. And that's all I did for like five days. And then like when I went back to work i was like we're done we're done we're not doing this anymore i've been doing like 5

a.m workouts i've been just trying to like get back into a regular routine so non-alcoholic beer was a good choice this time around and um yeah if you're uh if you haven't had the non-alcoholic guinness and you're a fan of beer who just wants that flavor but not obviously the poison part of it. It's definitely a good call, 0%. I don't work for them, I promise. What are you wearing over there this week, Shelby? I am wearing the

lift, the skull lift hard Levizzi one. And I got that last year at the LHLE one. My favorite apparel, I only have two. Well, besides the beach shirts. But besides the meat shirts, I only have two massonomics shirts. And my favorite is actually in the laundry. And it's my fault that I'm not wearing it because I do the laundry. Laundry's hard does other stuff i don't know it's it's not that hard but you know i just put it off like the washing and drying is easy the folding and putting away is the blirst of times yeah that's fair that's i i got to where

i had two loads of clean laundry in my in my laundry room and i needed to find something specific so i'd like walked him over to like my yoga mat like a stretching area in my, in my laundry room and I needed to find something specific. So I'd like walked them over to like my yoga mat, like a stretching area in my gym and dumped two hampers out. So my entire, like, like part of my gym right now is two full loads of laundry just on the ground. They had to like sift through to find a certain thing for work. And I looked at it, it was like, God damn it. This can take me like a half hour to put all this away. You, you gotta think of like some sort of a internet competition to incorporate laundry into your lifts. I do um what i'll do is usually get two hampers i'll get one full of clean clothes and an empty one and in between

sets like during rest periods i will fold laundry no way yeah all the time like i'll just sit in my chair on the bench and just fold until i hear chad's voice go you know 30 seconds and then it's like okay well gotta go right and uh, I do that all the time, but then my poor kids clothes are all covered in chalk and my clothes are all I didn't even think about the chalk. That's hilarious. Yeah. But I mean, at least they're folded and put away. And they look like they had a really bomb workout, like right when they put on their clothes in the morning. So.

It's a signal to the other dads. I always say. Yes, of course. Brian, what are you wearing, buddy? Perk of lifting at a home gym. I have our barefoot long-sleeve pocket shirt. It's sharp.

And then I am wearing the lift shorts. We actually just got back from the gym. So I'm sweaty, but solid workout in and yeah. And my North Dakota hat. Oh,

nice. Nice. Um, similar to Shelby, I am wearing the lift, uh, hard live easy to shirt, which is the first time I've worn it because it finally fucking got washed

nice so i like i saw it today in the the clean pile and i was just like oh that's the guy i want to wear that one today and i haven't actually worn it since the meet because yeah it just it finally got washed i did have the um i don't know if you saw the post where i had the mass nomics live hard live easy Classic hat on with this shirt. And I call it the FOMO fit. Because if you weren't there, you can't get this fit. You can never have it. Never have it.

That's true. Yep. Keith? I hate coffee, but this is one of the most comfortable shirts I own. So it was an easy pick tonight. It's the Cool Beans Massonomics shirt, obviously. I thought that was such a cool collab. Yeah, it was an easy pick tonight. It's the Cool Beans Mastanomics shirt, obviously. I thought that was such a cool collab. Yeah, it was pretty sweet.

I'm not a fan of coffee in general. My buddy ended up buying it. Actually, it was a present for me. He kept the coffee and gave me the shirt, so it worked out good for me. Did the shirt smell like coffee when he gave it to you? I refuse to wear shirts until they're washed, so I wouldn't know, but probably. But I won't put a shirt on until it's been washed it's just it feels icky it does it gets a

weird plastic feeling right like you're coated in plastic that's why like i was like oh cool the meat shirt i'm not wearing this at the meat because i'm not putting this on my body until it's been washed i'm sorry that's fair we We should ask Tanner if he washes them first. Oh, no, I'm sure he does. That would be some excellent service. No,

nice touch. He washes them and then farts on them and then sends them. Yeah. That's the hats. Right. Uh, do you guys want to rate last week's episode, which was the,

um, big Trey Mitchell? Yeah. Big Trey. Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah.

I enjoyed, I enjoyed Trey. He, uh, it was very in. Yeah. Big Trey. Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah. I enjoyed, I enjoyed Trey. He, uh, it was very in depth talking about his home gym. So it was one of the few home gym tours I think we've gotten, you know, like his follow Trey or listen to that episode or watch the episode.

His home gym is like, you know, bigger than my house. So, you know, that's always cool for me to consume. I, anything home gym related.

I'm a big fan of, uh, met Trey in person. So that was kind of cool to actually like, you know, like a big fan of uh met trey in person so that was kind of cool to actually like you know like a week later have someone that i talked to briefly to actually listen to them you know a full in-depth uh so for all those you know tanner tommy you know did did did their job and you know kept it rolling so we'll go ahead and give it a five out of five uh barefoot shoes yeah uh so i did listen to the episode and trey particularly uh we actually he's one of our

athletes um and yeah his the gym setup he has now it's fantastic i don't know if you guys are aware of what he had before that but he like lifted in a like basically a storage building in the back of the church that he went to. At least that's my understanding of it. Um, and it was just like full of like church decorations. And then there's strong man stuff. And one of the,

one of the best strong men in the world training, training in there. Um, which is pretty incredible when you consider like some of the equipment, the other guys are training with and how well Trey has performed uh it's it's pretty amazing um but yeah it was a solid conversation uh i also love seeing jimmy equipment so um i yeah i'd probably give it a five out of five nice dig it five out of five what yeah five out of five uh beans there you go okay nice shall we yeah well um so i i love every, but especially like when, when Trey is able to come on or someone that, you know, to your point, because there he's, he's like such a nice guy. If you get to meet him and talk to him and, and just like, I grew up, I grew up in a small town here.

And so he's just kinda, he reminds me of like a big small town teddy bear. You know what I mean? So just a, just a good, good guy. Someone that, that would stop on the side of the road and, and help you change a tire. That kind of, that kind of a guy. So, yeah. So love, love the, love the home gym talk. We'd love to have one someday. And really like the Olympics talk. And specifically, I don't know if you've been watching the Olympics, but the US is killing it. Sorry, Joey, but Canada's doing pretty well yeah no we are smoking it as well yeah we are yeah yeah so and uh like especially in the

um in the track and field like the the men's 1500 the u.s person comes out and and other and and ends up winning gold and the other the other two guys that they had this feud and they've been like talking at each other for over a year. And then the guy from the U S comes out of nowhere and say similar to the steeplechase, which I didn't even know was a thing. And I don't know if you've been watching it, but they like hurdle stuff. It's like 3000 meters, which is like, I don't know, a lot of the time around the track. I never did track and field. So I have no idea. A lot of the track.

And they, for some reason, hurdle over water. I want to know the history of this event. It's like the weirdest thing. But anyway, US ended up taking silver and just totally smoking it. So, yeah. But the Olympics is great. And their whole Clark Kent guy, I watched that live. That was so funny.

I just happened to be at work. We have the Olympics on in the break room and I go in there and fill up my water bottle every so often, like a couple times. And the one time that was in there this guy like their ringer was going on and i was like this dude just took off his glasses and he's basically like closing his eyes while he's doing this amazing routine yep and uh he does look like cut but he he's not like i mean he he looked enough like a gymnast that i would be like okay you know

but if you saw him in like regular life you'd be like i don't know he was asleep like i he was like asleep in his desk his head back and he was just resting and then they called his name it was like that scene from basketball it's one of my favorite scenes right where like um what's his face is like half asleep drunk and then the whistle blows and he just wakes up and throws the ball and gets it in and it's like that's kind of what it was where he was just like oh my turn oh and then goes and nails it like yeah yeah that's pretty cool so yeah so because of all of that long way to say five out of five Olympic gold medals.

Nice. That's a good one. That's first. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I did listen to it. I finally got a chance to catch up. Oh my God. Cause I can only listen when I'm driving to work and not being at work. Like you're not listening to a podcast with kids in the car. It's just not possible. You know, Joey, I listened to, I listened to podcasts while I'm lifting and while I'm doing laundry and you both psychopath behavior. Yeah.

That's psychopath behavior. Maybe for a warmup, but I don't know, but I would lift. Um, definitely enjoyed Trey. And it was fun meeting Trey. Cause the funny part was,

I didn't know it was him when I met him. Of course. It's awesome. Yeah. So like I saw Nate and Abby and I ran over and I was like, yay, Nate and Abby. And then this guy climbed out and i was like yay nate and abby and then this guy climbed out i was like oh hey man like are you crew and he's like huh and he's like oh hey i'm train i was like hey i'm joey and steve described it the best because you can see the

hamster wheels turning in my brain you're going like he's not crew who the fuck oh my god i'm oh my god you're train mitchell like right to his face. Oh my god, you're Trey Mitchell. Come on, man. Really on character for me, I think. Oh yeah, Joey doesn't know who anyone is. It's not a bit, it's reality. Yeah, it really is. I don't know if I said this part. I gave him a DILF dungeon sticker.

Oh, that's awesome. He didn't know what DILF meant. And nobody wanted to tell him like we're all just like it means uh dad i'd like to follow it's about instagram yeah um so yeah that was really fun hearing him you know go a little more in depth after you know meeting him uh it was interesting that they somehow spoke about the Olympics and still dominated talking about basketball for the entire damn episode. Yeah, I know. It actually makes me want to, I'm not, I am not an NBA fan, but because of stuff that we might talk about later in this episode, we've been watching the, the NBA finals and semis. So I become a, I'd say NBA fan adjacent.

I refuse to call myself. She's a fan. I'm an NBA fan. She's a fan. Yeah. But Tanner, Tanner's basketball talk did make me actually want to maybe tune in to. Well,

they like the crew mocks us for talking about wrestling so much, but nobody ever really called them talking about basketball that much. To be fair, you talk a lot about wrestling. And when I avoid it, people bring it up, but either way, um,

I don't, it's not in the show notes today. So that's good. Well, maybe I shouldn't bring it up, but I just learned about that Cuban heavyweight, uh, wrestler.

Like I just found out about that guy and he's like one of the greatest athletes of all time. We're talking professional wrestling, the, wrestler. Like I just found out about that guy and he's like one of the greatest athletes of all time. We're talking professional wrestling. The scripted one. Yeah. Yeah. I know a little bit about that. So, uh, even with all of the basketball tack hack, um, hidden behind

Olympus, I'm still going to give that a five out of five, uh, Olympic medal glasses. still going to give that a five out of five, uh, Olympic metal glasses. Um, funny thing. We were out for dinner and, um, so they had the Olympics on where we were cause everywhere has the Olympics on and they were doing the, um, the snatches and the guy from Bulgaria walked up, he was doing 152 kilograms and Morgan goes, look, deadlifts. And I turned, I look at the weight and I was like, like, I appreciate that. You think he's going to deadlift that honey. Um, but no, no, he's not. He's going to do something more impressive with that amount of weight than I could. While we're still in the Olympics, did you see that? Like one of the guys that won a gold medal for America, like exclusively chain trains out of a home gym or like at least the majority of

his sessions are in a home gym. I thought that was pretty dope. So I enjoyed that. Do you know what sport? It was Olympic weightlifting, I believe. Oh my gosh, that's so cool. Yeah, I did see that. I think somebody posted that in the Discord crew.

Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, so that's the rating. You've got some random stuff here, but I didn't put any of it up there. Go ahead. I got three rapid fire ones. My belt from BeltFed finally came in it's awesome the no wine cellar uh you know my gym logo all over it chris at belt fed did a great job any crew listening go ahead and go ahead over to belt fed strength.com and use code unpaid to save you 10 percent uh the meat photos dropped nick got all the meat photos out to anyone that bought them

so those have been awesome seeing those on instagram uh and then uh just shout out real quick to chad uh chad ahuchi there or big hanging chad i believe he calls himself now we had a nice little crew meet up yesterday me him and chris went out and got dinner and uh yeah it was always nice when crew visit rochester and we get to hang out i don't know about you man but like naming your home gym just seems weird to me oh god that was so obnoxious it was so so so I posted my belt on reddit in the home gym I literally only get on reddit once a year to post something home gym related because I have a pretty extensive home gym I'm pretty proud of it but like I always forget how fucking toxic reddit is compared to other apps I feel um so like just some asshole made a comment of how like how uh absurd it was that I

named my home gym and then it was just like I had to defend myself and of how like how absurd it was that I named my home gym. And then it was just like I had to defend myself. And I was just – yeah, it was obnoxious. I was like, really, dude? But then he made multiple comments about how I was naive and rude and all that. And then he ended up deleting it. I woke up and they were all deleted. And I was like, oh, okay.

This was just – why did you just waste my time? But yeah. I've never actually feasted my eyes on Reddit. I don't know how to get there do you need like do you need a you can do it always tries to push you towards the app and an account but you should be able to like voyeur a lot of shit just throughout if you just like if you just type a subject in that you're curious about and then just add reddit it'll probably take you to like one of their like forum threads or whatever you don't need a login and you don't like you can still do all that um all you really need is a neck beard and a false

sense of entitlement and then you will just fit right into most of the regular people wait what about what about live in my parents basement does that mean to yes as long as there's good wi-fi and you make sure that you like you judge other people who are you know doing better for themselves that's that's the key i i put it up there with tiktok where like i have it i look at it very very seldom and i usually leave like just annoyed half the time and it's just like yeah the important part is when you're you're shooting upwards right like you're at the bottom of the hill and you're trying to shoot the people at the top of the hill yeah and you're still like still feel like you have a chance.

That's how Reddit works. Apparently it's not that helpful for info anymore either. My younger brother is much more into technology and stuff. Like that's really broad. He's like technology. He was like, he was a gamer. He was a gamer. So he like gets all of it.

Yeah. He's like, he's like, he was a gamer. So he gets like he was a he was a gamer he was a gamer so he like gets all of it yeah he's like he's like he was a gamer so he gets like all of that and so he's like been on reddit but he he says youtube comments and reddit have not been as good lately because all of the bots just like create meaningless like chatter and stuff bots are a problem. Yeah, for sure. That's too bad. Alright. Well, that concludes, I think, the random session. Should we get our guests on the horn, kick out all of the watchers? Yeah, get them looky-loos out and see

if we can get the barefoot crew on. Alright. Big Barefoot, is that you? Yes. This is definitely the first time I'm on. Indeed. Well, welcome. you yes this is definitely the first time i'm on dude well welcome you are uh live and unpaid and underrated um we're gonna dive right in we don't want to miss any gold you know i i know that you know we've had some conversations in the past so it's time to time to get back into it um my first question of course is usually what brought you into massonomics? And I think Shelby, you had a good story there for that one. Yeah. So this actually goes back to

near the founding of Barefoot. So I got into lifting like when I was like 20, 21 and I'm 27 now. So just like, like really got into lifting culture, powerlifting, strongman and stuff like that around seven years ago. So later than probably most crew, most people in the audience and definitely later than Tanner and Tommy, I've learned a lot about history, uh, as in like when Tanner and Tommy were in high school lifting. And so I didn't really know about Chris Duffin very much. And Ryan was my boyfriend at the time going into business and starting this business with Duffin. And so Ryan tells me, hey, go and listen to this podcast. It might help you know a little bit more about duffin and then he also gave me duffin's book which is awesome and people should definitely read it

because it's it's incredible and he's got a wild story and it's also like it is a good like self-reflection book too but a lot of wild stories and it tells you a little bit more about him and kabuki and how he like get got there so anyway and this podcast is massonomics and it was the first time that chris duffin went on the massonomics podcast and so i go there and i'm an entertainment podcast person so and and you just also like kind of shy away from anyone giving you podcast suggestions other than like a few people. And, uh, and, but I gave it a shot because I love the guy he's going into business with Duff. And I was like, Oh, okay. And one of the first things Tanner and Tommy says, they talk about agronomy.

They talk about agriculture. And I'm like, hell yes, man. And I was like, wait, what? You're in Aberdeen? Wait, what? You talk like minimally about lifting. And then they are duffing on and they talked about all of these like fun topics. Not, you you know not really

about sets and reps and stuff like that but to be honest what got me to massonomics is the agronomy the fringiest of the fringiest of the fringiest things mixed together South Dakotans right across we're in North Dakota I guess I should explain that for those who don't know barefoot's in fargo north dakota a handful of hours away yep and uh and so aberdeen being that close i've done like different trainings there um super big agriculture nerd and my like my actual job not my unpainted internship but my actual job is in agriculture. I work with farmers and ranchers. And so, yeah, they got me on the agronomy. And that's why you should definitely listen to the Mastanomics podcast. It's a silly goose time. Tanner and Tommy are awesome. And if you're liking Midwest, I think last week Mad Cow said suburban dads. I'd say that's just small

town Midwest right there. And if you like entertainment podcasts, if you like lifting, hanging out with the boys, and you don't necessarily need to be a boy, I'm a girl. I'm a chocolate chip. I'm a chocolate chip in the mass. And I was cookie. And it's great. Also, um, I think it's hilarious when Tanner and Tommy talk about, and the crew talk about how much their wives don't understand, like,

like the thing that is massonomics, the podcast, the jokes and everything. And I am a wife, but I get to be a part of it so i am the wife and i get to be a part of massonomics so it's nothing better perfect yeah that's amazing that's a great introductory story a good uh sponsor read as well i think if i had to call that that one um we do we do have something in the works for the massonomics wives coming up

probably in october um hopefully that's gonna work itself out um you know i i've been planting seeds and you know taking names and shaking babies and kissing hands and stuff like that so dude i i literally so i mean i've i've i've been known to write fan fiction before, but I've been telling Ryan over and over that there has to be something that just make one limited run. I think I might have even talked to Tommy's wife. What's Tommy's wife's name? Leah. Leah. Leah.

Yeah. what's tommy's wife's name leah leah leah yeah i think i i think i mentioned it to leah or someone that they should make uh just one women's crop top and incorporate my wife into something and then make and then make a simultaneous like male version and like i'm the wife and then my wife and they would be like the same color or something i don't know great yeah right the only bad thing is like like like 20 people would buy it and then they have to buy like shit in the hundreds and then even probably even more than a hundreds yeah yeah probably wouldn't work but i can write the fan fiction i do enjoy it in theory but the good thing is like i mean literally like t-shirt printers it's so easy to get something screen printed i mean you just have

to like do all the work yourself with the design and shit like no one's gonna do a fancy design and then like be like here i mean because you they can you know pay people to do it so uh yeah there's actually a there's actually a t-shirt print company here in fargo well there you go that's pretty good so They do a little barefoot action for you guys? Yeah. They do. We've had

a heck of a time trying to source apparel for the whole time we've been in business. It's never been our forte. Big problem with the blanks, right? The blanks are hard. I know that is a joke but like as someone who's like bought shirts to sell for my friends like it is an issue yeah and yeah finding good stuff and good printing and pricing it all it's never been i mean it's not a big part of our business so it's

never been a priority but yeah uh even i put my got two, uh, two barefoot shirts myself, I think at the one. Yeah. I bought myself one about my wife one. I think she wears it more than me, even though she doesn't wear the shoes. But yeah, definitely. I was the sleeveless shirt you had at the first lift hard, live easy. Okay. Yeah.

Awesome. Yeah. One of the few people who actually have our apparel. So that's, that's cool. Oh, I love that. Yeah.

My story finding massonomics isn't as like much of a story as that was. I honestly don't remember. I mean, I've been aware of massonomics for a really long time. I don't remember how long. One of my brothers. So I've been into lifting for a long time and I'm't remember how long. One of my brothers... I've been into lifting for a long time. I'm a triplet, which is just

an interesting tidbit about me. The twins. The twins. We've always been lifting and competitive and stuff. One of my brothers, which is,

it's hilarious because he always says how he finds things first. And it's actually kind of true when I reflect on it, but like he found, he found Chris Duffin before I did actually like as a, as you know, just as a lifting type of influencer guy but uh he got the uh bench heavy shirt like however long ago and uh it was just a really cool shirt and then uh i mean i don't know when i became aware of the podcast but uh it's well before her but uh yeah basically i found them through the shirts because the shirts are cool and then oh they have a podcast so

mine was pretty similar like i i saw a flag in the background of i think jonathan oldham's video and then i was like i love that howham's video. And then I was like, I love that. How do I get one? And then he was like, Oh, it's these guys. And then I ordered the flag before even knowing who they were.

That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. And we won't say which flag it was, but let's say it was the last one and you'll never get one again. And, uh, then I was just like,

all right, cool. I like that. And then I think I was like going through the website. I was like, these are amazing. And then it was like Instagram. Oh, they have a podcast. I had never listened to a podcast that wasn't science related before that.

Oh, really? Yeah. I only listened to 100% Invisible. And then there was another one, which was basically like kind of an offshoot of that where they would take inanimate objects and interview them like they were people and yeah and like we did that some weeks yeah well it's a that one was a comedy podcast but they would like include like like you were interviewing a bottle of coca-cola and like the the bottle of coca-cola was like a prick and it was like really mean and

but like you would also learn about the history of coca-cola while this like that was really fun for a bit that's a brilliant podcast it really was and then i was just like well i'm done listening to podcasts and then massnomics came in and now here i am on a podcast so the pipeline is real yeah i just i wasn't really into podcasts before but i had started started getting into entertainment podcasts and then and then again the agronomy hooked me but i i had listened to a little bit of the last podcast on the left which is uh two comedians that is a true crime podcast i don't even know if they still are going because that's how long ago I was listening to it, but

I don't listen to it anymore. It's basically Masonomics and the UNU and a couple others. Who's got the time? It's a good company right there. There's too many podcasts in the world. There are a lot.

Just in case anyone's listening this far and isn't sure who you guys are as far as uh where they can follow you uh you want to plug uh where they're going to find you on barefoot and either personal if you want if you don't want to make it personal then just don't say it yeah well uh yeah i guess i'll say uh barefoot shoes you know we're one of the, I'm sure most people will know this, uh, listening to this, but we're one of the sponsors of the mass economics podcast. Um,

and that's B E A R like the animal, which, you know, when you, when you're saying it out loud, you always have to explain that. But, um,

barefoot, uh, dot store and barefoot shoes on Instagram. If you look up barefoot shoes, you'll find us. If you look up up barefoot shoes, you'll find us. If you look up Chris Duffin, you'll find us. So yeah, that's where you can find us. Awesome.

And then I, like, if anybody wants to, some crew has followed me, but my lifting Instagram, it was originally just going to be a lifting log for myself and then there was a couple people that i sold shoes to at the arnold that just like asked to follow me on instagram and i was like well uh okay but i don't really want you to follow my personal one and so i just i i ended up making it it's technically still a private account a private profile but i um i'm letting people that ask follow it so that's a grab and lift it's g a well g-r-a-b-a-n-l-i-f-t and when you find it my name on there is in fact mrs barefoot so oh cool all right uh so you guys i mean you've been in the mass economics world long enough to

you know at least know a lot of their apparel so anything that you don't have that you wish you had gotten when it was still available for i i can i can go ahead while ryan thinks um for me not not really but um if i could get another shirt of my favorite shirt which is the jefferson deadlift shirt uh would, I would get another one of those. And there was a blue and not that long. Oh, you want the black. Yeah,

there was a blue one. I don't necessarily like that color blue. It's not that bad either, but I did pass up on it. That is our, that's our, that's our, that's our mass mommic sponsor read this week.

Not, not that bad. That'll do. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I, I was that they just happened to have like one small left and Tanner,

Tanner wrote like in the thing, when I got the Jefferson deadlift shirt, it was my first massonomic shirt. And, and I had bought like a significant amount of massonomic stuff for Ryan, but I didn't buy anything for myself. And I thought the Jefferson deadlift was just hilarious. for Ryan, but I didn't buy anything for myself. And I thought the Jefferson deadlift was just hilarious. And yeah, but that, and that one Tanner wrote in there that that was

the last one available. I, I snatched up the, the one last shirt that was there. So that's, that's probably my favorite, but there isn't anything, I don't know if they came out with like a women's crop i would i would snatch like five of those of course yeah yeah yeah and you'd want to yeah grab as many as you could yeah uh i'd say out of stuff that's not available it'd be like the band shirt um because i that i like that one and obviously uh can't pick that one up um there i would i would say is the 8-bit powerlifting shirt available is that i think it is but in limited sizes too like unless it's an issue with a lot of stuff right now that's like they have like seven mediums and like one large or something but you know everyone has an xl and a 2x like

i got super lucky the other day and one of my friends just gave me his 2x uh 8-bit strongman and i was like this is amazing there's so this this might have taken me five years to come back in stock and you just hooked me up with a shirt i've been wanting for like the last year so yeah yeah yeah because she she got me one uh but it was a size large and it was like a year after i had decided officially I can't wear size anymore. And it's even worse now. Set the sleeves off. Set the sleeves off and make it work. Yeah, that is a way to make it work.

It's a very common trend here that most of us have like three different sizes of massonomic shirts in our closet, or we've given a waste. Like my wife inherits all my larges basically for like for, for fricking nightgowns essentially. So yeah, I mean, sometimes i tell myself i can hang on to it if i ever do like a really deep cut but uh haven't done a big cut in like five years so same i got a whole bag of smalls that i'm just like one day one day when i stop lifting those will fit me again. And yeah, probably not. So I'm curious, how many pieces of Mastanomics merch like drink spotters,

slides, everything included, how much do each of you have? At least 50 items. Yeah. Minimum 50. About a year ago, I did a picture of all of them. I went and got all of them and put them on my bed. And that was a year ago. And it picture of all of them like i went and got all of them and put them on

my bed and it was and that was a year ago and it had to have been 50 plus um yeah a lot of a lot of money but if i took away like ones i didn't repeat by like 20 30 30 probably for sure if we take out repeat buys because i've bought the same same shirt, like in large, extra large and two X and some, some occasions over the last like five years as I've, you know, beefed up a little bit. So, but yeah, a lot, definitely been an investment over the last few years, but you know, it's brought us, you know, brought 400 friends into my life. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. You know, if I had to pick something that, sorry, Joey, if I had to pick something that I do, like, I don't have that I wish I would have, it would be something like a Mastodon Expander or something

like that or the Varsity T. I think that G is my call. Yeah. Sorry, Joey. Don't sleep on these shorts. These new shorts. They're so gone. Oh, I've got them. Yeah. I'm doing

so far still going well. I'm not too sick and he hasn't backed out, but this weekend I am doing a spot and load at a lifting meet with Mitch Hooper. That's going to be dope. And I'm going to wear those shorts. Nice. Right.

I'm going to make sure those are on the live stream. Me and Mitch Hooper loading up deadlifts and squats and bench together. I'm going gonna wear those shorts for sure and yeah and of course barefoot shoes because i actually don't wear anything else outside of the house we love that make sure you share that live stream link so the crew can boyer that if it's actually going on if i remember yeah all right um let's talk about shelby rating scale that's a fun one um because think we all have a, like we talk about the glaze scale all the time. And I might've spoken about my hot sauce rating scale and how much my wife hates it.

But apparently you have your own rating scale that is kind of, kind of weird. Yeah. Tell me about that. Yeah. Tell me about that. Yeah. When the ratings started coming out for stuff like Yelp ratings and Uber ride ratings and stuff like that, I just assumed that five out of five stars, first of all, is just completely unattainable. Like, no one's going to be perfect. And three out of five stars, if you think about when you're looking

at surveys and stuff like that, three out of five is neutral. You don't like it, you don't dislike it. And then two out of five stars is dislike. And then one out of five is very much dislike or hate it. So I was rating everything as three out of five is 50%. Like you are, that's the median that's average three out of five is average. So I was rating Ubers like so many, so many Uber drivers were getting four out of five stars because they were good. They were good, but not perfect. Like five out of five stars in an Uber ride. It's like, what would that even be? Like it would have to be a limo or something. Yeah. And you were also like actively looking for them to be like positively good, you know,

like average. And then they had to like be such a good experience that they could move in instead of most people like if nothing bad happens they'll give a five star yeah and i had no idea that's the scale that everybody else used i was like you guys are just giving out five out of five what do you mean and so shelby yeah no i should be unless you completely ruin my ride i'll give you five because i know your job depends on it. That's just how I see it. I didn't know that.

I didn't know that five out of five was the standard. So I rated some. If five out of five is like, you don't do anything wrong, five out of five. All right. I need to go back and revise some Uber rides, man. Because they didn't do anything wrong. It was perfectly good. In fact, it was better than average.

Four out of five stars. Yep. But we should normalize four out of five star ratings because then ratings would actually be helpful. Because if it's five out of five, that just means you had an averagely good time. And otherwise, all ratings are one out of five. If they're not five out of five, because you piss someone off. It's like, let's like, let's normalize four star ratings again. Yeah. I gave a guy a three cause he didn't put into my driveway and he dropped

us off in the ditch. And I even said to him, I was like, buddy, I've got like a seven car driveway. Why are you dropping me off in the ditch outside of my house? And I was like, yeah, you're getting like a three because nothing else was wrong but like figure it out man like that's yeah that's um my hot sauce rating and apparently also my drunk rating is um on a scale of one to ten but anything past six is lethal because yeah so um my wife knows if i say if i say something is six out of 10, that like, that's the limit. I don't want to go anymore. And that includes hot sauce, drinking, anything like that, because it can always get worse. Like there's always that seven, eight, nine, right?

Yeah. Like if I'm 10 out of 10 drunk, you're in the hospital pumping my stomach, right? If it's 10 out of 10 hot, you're calling an ambulance because my esophagus is burning. And she just doesn't, she doesn't understand that. She hates it because like, if it's one out of 10 hot sauce, it's got some pepper on it. Two out of 10. All right. I noticed that's tingly.

Three out of 10. All right. I'm enjoying this. Four out of 10, five out of 10 ten six out of ten is i'm not eating another one and then she's like but that's that should be your 10 and i was like no because there is more it's just stupid to go past that six so i think we actually align in that sense there where according to what you just described you completely agree with the glaze scale that like sixes are good and pause like you just described

yeah it's over half it's over half yeah like if I tell you I'm 7 out of 10 hot sauce get 9-1-1 on the board yeah so to me a 7 out of 10 movie is pretty damn good that's fair

I guess I don't really rate movies like that i just kind of go i know you write you write hot sauces about it but you'll judge my fucking movie judgments fuck you you all do well they used to before nate broke the app and didn't fix it so okay do you have a glaze scale for um for i'll name three movies. One, The Princess Bride. Have you seen that movie? He's going to look it up.

He doesn't remember. I watch a hundred movies and I don't remember a thing about it. I did not like The Princess Bride. That's a 5 out of 10 for Big Key. I don not like the princess bride. That's a five out of 10. I just, I didn't, I don't,

I don't like, I didn't, I never liked a parody movie growing up and I still don't like parody movies. Like, like I just don't, or things that are like mock. It's almost a mockumentary.

If you are, it's just not a serious movie. It's fake. It's like, it's stupid to be funny. I don't like that. Oh, then you're not going to like the next one.

So they're all probably going to be five or six. Next one. I just historically didn't like that movie as a kid. Okay, next one. Grown Ups 2. Oh, God. That's on our list a few times. I fucking hated

Grown Ups 2. Yeah, there we go. I gave them both a six. One and two, two i gave a six i kind of read them right around watchable but probably wouldn't watch again one was really funny to me because one was just like your reality one was probably a six five though yeah it was just your bros hanging out mocking each other i thought that was really funny until they tried to make it like a movie and add a storyline. If it was just like these guys hanging out, making fun of each other, I probably would have rated it higher.

And then number two was just stupid and irrelevant, except for that weird Canadian guy at the water park. That was really funny. And the kid. Yeah. So, um, and then,

and then third one, school of rock with Jack Black. Definitely didn't like that one either. I'll look it up. Oh man, that one's good. Yeah. No wonder we, no wonder Rock with Jack Black. Definitely didn't like that one either. I'll look it up. Man, that one's good. No wonder we mock your judgment. 5 out of 10. 5 out of 10.

This was like 10 years ago I rated all these and I probably don't. I just, but I consistently don't like, I just, I guess I don't want to comment. What about Secondhand Lions? Secondhand Lions, that's not a bad movie. I haven't seen that. I don't think I've even heard of that.

I have seen it. No, I would guess I gave it a six or a seven, but give me one second. 2003, I gave it a seven. Okay. Seven out of ten, which to me, I said seven out of ten is like, that's like top 20% for me. Like, if you look at like, there's like five things I've rated ten. There's like 30 things I've rated nine. And then like things I've rated eight and then like thousands of things I've

rated seven and six. Okay. Okay. Okay. Shelby hot tub time machine too. Um, uh, recently.

Yeah. Hot tub time machine one, definitely better. Um, it follows my, uh, step down theory. Sequels are always a step down from the original, at least, with the exceptions of Shrek 2, I think is almost as good as Shrek 1.

And the Iron Mans, specifically Iron Man 2, close. Iron Man 1, definitely the best. But those, I don't think, are quite the full step down that other movies are. And Harry Potter movies kind of just don't count because they're a series. Like 10 of them. Yeah. Right. So,

so at that point, and then maybe Tokyo drift in the fast and furious movies. I do think that one is probably better than fast and furious too that's probably like the worst it's so it's so different though so it's like it's so it's just it's a standalone movie basically yeah the drifting is the drifting action is incredible um in my humble opinion but i also um my taste in movies this is a point of contention between ryan and i apparently i have really bad taste in movies so the is a point of contention between Ryan and I. Apparently I have really bad taste in movies. So the reason that I asked you

those four movies is because those are definitely my top four. Those are really highly rated movies. I've just looked at IMDb. Those were all like, well, at least the first, they were all very highly rated movies. I go against the grain on liking a lot of those types. Hot Tub Time Machine 2 is way better than Hot Tub Time Machine 1.

Oh, I like one better. I just, I maybe I just don't like John Cusack, but just the rapid fire jokes, just everything is so silly and not part of the storyline. And it's just, it's,

it's the, okay. It's the same way I described why letter Kenny is funnier than like friends. And it's because when you're watching the TV show, letter Kenny, or even Hot Tub Time Machine 2, they're making each other laugh. The jokes are about each other to each other, whereas like Friends was just a series of punchlines. Right. And I think Hot Tub Time Machine 2, while still funny, Hot Tub Time Machine 2 was a series of just these guys wanted to make each other laugh and you could see it while they're filming and for me that was way funnier uh that's how i feel about

grown-ups too like grown-ups too like tickles my funny bone like nobody's business i thought that movie was just too trying too hard i think when i watched it i think many people would agree with you yeah i just i just have that type of humor. I guess you also left out a teenage mutant Ninja turtles too. It was a better movie than the first one. There was a million sequels that are better than the first one. There was three, three.

I'm talking to see. Oh, okay. I thought you meant Ninja turtle movies. Like the eight, six, seven, like eighties movies,

like a godfather and terminator and terminator yeah terminator would be a good one yeah quick call quick quick call back to tokyo drift so similar to so what would you call um so this is something that's kind of some contention between like mid mid midwesterns uh so tanner and tommy and then like a lot of people that live on the coast i guess so like what do you call when you do you call when you gun your car in a circle and you're in a gravel driveway or something and you just gun it and you do a circle with your car or if you're on the snow? What do you guys call that? I call it whipping shitties or

donuts, but most of the time whipping shitties. I'm pretty sure they didn't common whipping shitties i'm pretty sure they didn't even like know the donut was a thing if i recall yeah but like okay they said whipping shitties completely like they didn't use it interchangeable i want to say they didn't know what donuts were but i could be mistaken but i've i have never heard of a whipping a shitty until like two years ago when they said on the podcast and i'm like what the fuck and i was like i was in the majority i wouldn't say at least 50 of the people in the crew didn't know what the they were talking about either i feel so i would just as

being dakota adjacent to them i figured you would whip and shitties would be in the in the in the lingo yeah yeah for sure that's definitely common yeah okay yeah we're we're usually going to be on on par with the with the massonomics lingo for just three hours three hours north and east so good deal well i'm gonna say that like that's gonna be enough of the like the random i have a few more i want to get into on the barefoot in general um but let's talk about very briefly your lifting history because i think you guys have very different lifting histories and in fact most people wouldn't even know about that. Um,

you know, you're, you're not very active in the crew. Um, for those of you listening as well, they have their own discord. Um, which of course I don't even think you guys,

if I message you on discord, you answer, but I don't think you guys are in the, the, the barefoot discord. So just to give you guys like some chance to talk about yourselves, um, Ryan, Ryan, talk about your your without sets and rap stock obviously yeah um your lifting history and what brings you into this world because you know i'm gonna do a quick barefoot commercial here

one of my favorite things about barefoot specifically is you're not the granola hippie bullshit that all the other barefoot companies pretend to be uh you guys have found this really i'm gonna say niche not niche you weirdos it's a niche uh realm where you guys have established yourselves in the world of you know strength training and power lifting and and you know all these other companies are out here being like connect with the earth touch touch grass, all that. You guys are doing that. So you guys are obviously in that world.

So I, you know, that's what brings you into us today. If you guys want to just, you know, take turns, Ryan first, maybe Shelby, just talk about how you got into this world and why maybe, you know, why that was your direction for Barefoot. For sure. Um, yeah, so I, I kind of briefly mentioned how, so I, uh, with, I actually have three brothers, but I'm a triplet. So two of them are my age and growing up with, uh, lots of brothers, you kind of have a natural competitiveness, I guess, between you. Um, and my dad also was always into lifting when he was younger um so i grew up like into sports and wanting to lift and i think i probably started lifting in middle school um but uh i was always naturally more like a little bigger and stronger um my brothers both got i guess to put it simply

more athleticism and speed than i did um my brother was a multiple-time state champion hurdler in north dakota and did d1 college track but uh not me i did not get those uh speed genes but um in college you know story is you get out of high school you're done with sports you don't know what to do with your body and you know you just most people just stop exercising altogether um and I basically turned my attention to lifting. And I think if I remember it all started, if anyone, well, I'm sure you guys probably know who Pete Rubish is. Yep. Um, so the first time I saw Pete Rubish deadlift video on YouTube, it was like life changing. I had never seen anybody lift weight like that.

And then like the aggression that he had and like, uh, the energy and stuff. I was like, Holy shit. I, I need that. While in a locker room. Right. With the, yeah. Washer dryer in the background, like yelling at the weights and, um, just absolute psycho back in those days. Um, and so then I was like, wow, I don't even know if i'd ever really thought about powerlifting before that point um even though i was into lifting um but that kind of

got me hooked on like how strong people can become it was just like fascinating i had no idea people i had no idea people had ever done like an 800 pound squat like i didn't know that that was a thing that people had done um and then i'm watching you know i'm watching dan green and i'm watching uh stan efforting like back in his prime and all these youtube videos and stuff uh and that's kind of along the lines of how i stumbled upon chris duffin uh back when like malinichev and Zaheer and like all those guys were just it was like an awesome era of powerlifting um and so I this was in college uh I went back and forth on training like bouncing between powerlifting and and then more bodybuilding kind of physique style stuff um and uh became obsessed with deadlifting and like just just fell in love with the training uh training like that i never have

competed formally in anything i did uh at a duffin's book launch party we did like a whiskey and deadlifts thing um so i did do that which is a competition but nothing uh formal i've never done any competitions uh definitely considering it but basically i've gone through phases i mean i've been lifting for a while now so i've i've gone through like i've cut 30 pounds to see how lean i could get i've been injured i've had to take a couple years off of deadlifting altogether i've come back from that i've done a few different things but uh my probably the thing i love the most is powerlifting style training even though i don't compete that's

and then i just try to try to eat like like an asshole that I like, don't gain obscene amounts of weight. I put on weight so easy. So I have to kind of hold back from that. But that's a I mean, I've done a lot of different specific things. But that's kind of really it was a I can credit a lot of it to just good old Pete Rubish deadlift videos on YouTube. Just nothing more. Nothing will get you more jacked for a workout than watching some of those. So it sounds like we have our dark horse for lift, hardly VZ three, where it'll be one of those,

like nobody else are competing. Yeah. They'll just yell your name and you're like, yeah, I knew I was coming up. Just do a, just do bench only like grant. Well,

I mean, he ended up doing, you know, deadlift too, but you know, just do, do bench only. I don't know. It do bench only like Grant. He ended up doing deadlift too, but just do bench only. I don't know. It's fun. Just competing is amazing. I mean,

there is deadlift only also. I'm heavily considering doing it. I know I will do a full meet eventually. I mean, literally, Dave probably puts on two or three meets a year in your hometown, doesn't he? That's super convenient and easy.

Right. So before we bother Shelby, I just want to know, at what point did that get you the top 17 sexy garbage men? Yeah. So, wow. That was Bud's feed bud speed right that was in 2015 uh sometimes i forget that that even happened to me but i've had like some weird stuff happen to me in my life and this is one of them uh probably my greatest accomplishment uh honestly but uh i was this was during college i was just getting a summer job um i got a job with the sanitation department in my town grand forks which is an hour north of where we're at now um and uh so basically i worked you know in garbage for the city and uh there's not you know there's not a lot of stuff that's

enjoyable uh in that whole department of work uh but going into that i thought well one cool thing that could happen is i could ride on a garbage truck um and so when that finally did, when I did get the opportunity to do that, I just took a selfie, not something I normally do. But I took a selfie, just like a smile. And I put that back when I actually posted stuff on Instagram. And I don't remember the caption, but I put hashtags related to it. So one of them would have been like hashtag garbage man or something like that. And then I don't know how much time passed between. But like I'm I get out of like classes or something.

And I had my phone, you know, off or on silent or whatever for like some chunk of time and then i check my phone and i have like of new followers and by a ton i mean like 100 you know but new followers on instagram and i was like oh that's that's not usual for me uh and then uh i get a message from my sister who she sends me a link on facebook and she's like, hey, is this you? And I look at it and it's got a picture of me and it's a BuzzFeed article. And it was. Yeah, I think you said it was top 17, right? Top 17, like hottest garbage men. And I'm like, what the hell is going on?

And so I'm like, what the hell is going on? And I click on it and I look. And sure enough, some writer at BuzzFeed decided that this was content that was worth making. But it was something about like, you know, in case you didn't know, like taking out the trash can be hot or something like that. And I was number one. And that's why this is my greatest accomplishment. I was the top hottest garbage man of 2015. But,

and that's still up. I looked at that not too long ago. We'll make sure we post it. Yeah. We need that link. Yeah. My, my account,

my Instagram is on private now. So like it will not like so I will come up. But if I take it off of private, then I immediately show up. But yeah, I got random older men to follow me from that.

Yeah, that makes sense. Some different messages and comments that I wasn't used to at the time but yeah don't check your dms for a while i guess yeah yeah uh for those of you not watching ryan does indeed have an award-winning smile so i can see how that happened well my uh my dad and my two oldest siblings are all dentists so ah that would do it. Give them credit. That would do it. Yep. So Shelby, uh, tell me about your lifting history. Cause I have some of it here, but I want to hear more.

Yeah. So, um, I lifted kind of like super casually in high school, basically just for fast pitch softball, but I was also a dancer. So, um, um, small town, but, uh, but really competitive in both of them, one state and fast pitch in North Dakota, which isn't as impressive as like Texas or California or even Minnesota, but it's something. And then, um, and went to nationals multiple years in dance. So it wasn't like, it was, it was a lot of work we had eight practices a week for for dance so um and all year except for the month of june was our month off so that was that was a lot i

was danced out going to college i could have done college dance but i didn't but anyway so i had to lift and it basically was like the lifting like oh i going to pretend to do stuff and not actually put any real weight on. But then I ended up having a crush on a guy, senior of high school, and he lifted. And so I was like, I'm going to lift. And then I kind of realized that I liked it. Classic. Yeah. It didn't go anywhere or anything like that, but I was basically getting in my fast pitch lift and had an excuse to talk to this cute boy. But then went to college. And sometime during college, I was like, you know what, I have a lot of extra time. So I'm going to just go to the wellness center and just continue to

get more and more into lifting. I thought it was cool. I thought it was fun. Started out doing just like three full body days a week because I really had no idea. Mostly machines, didn't really know anything. And then one of my buddies that I became friends with just because we always had lunch at the same time, for some reason, his name was Ben. He was lifting at the... At that time, one of the hardcore powerlifting gyms in Fargo was called Metro flex. And, and then during the summer, when I didn't have access to the wellness, he's like, well, buddy, like come train with me. You might actually like the gym. If you're like getting into lifting at all, you might really like it. And so I walk in with him

one day I go with him and, and I immediately I'm like, Oh my gosh, I do not belong here. This is way too hardcore. This is scary. There's graffiti on the walls, blah, blah, blah. And, uh, and I was like, I'm just a pokey little, little sophomore in college and, um, and didn't know how to do anything. But immediately my friend Ben introduces me to three different people, like a girl and then two guys. And they were all super friendly, like normal looking and, um, and, uh, like not, not like overly shredded or like huge people that would probably have intimidated me at that time. They were just like normal. And so I was like, I became a lot more comfortable. And like, I almost immediately had community because they were so friendly and we talked during it. And, and then I never looked back. Uh, Metro flex is actually where Ryan and I met. So met my husband at, at the same gym that made me fall in love with lifting. So then one day I was lifting and I had finally realized, okay, I should split up muscle groups. So I was just floundering, figuring it out,

not doing full body stuff anymore. And I was going much more frequently, like five to seven days a week. And at that time you're made out of like rubber and magic in college. So I was going there and I was on a leg press and then some girl comes up and her name's Kate. And Kate is like, hey, can I mix in with you? I need to use the leg press too. And I'm like, sure. And her boyfriend is like this ginormous dude. ginormous dude. You find out later he's a bodybuilder, but he's just like this absolutely huge, like beastly man of guy, the biggest man that I had ever seen. And, uh, and his name is Cody. And, um, Kate mixed in with me and we ended up doing the same weight. And she's like, well,

you want to keep lifting with me? You seem pretty strong. And I was like, sure. And I find out throughout lifting that she's actually a bodybuilder. And I'm like, what? I didn't even know that was a thing, you know, really. And, um, and she didn't look like it. She didn't look like, like super shreddy, muscly, like women that you would normally see on Instagram. And, um, and if I, if she wouldly, like women that you would normally see on Instagram. And, um, and if I, if she would have looked like that, I would have been really intimidated and just been like, you can have a leg press, I'll go do something else. Um, but she, she, she was just like normal, super down to earth and stuff like that. So immediately so many stereotypes were

shattered for me. And, and she goes, yeah, you're pretty strong. Have you ever thought about doing a bodybuilding show? And I was like, before this conversation, I didn't even know that was a thing. And, um, and then she's like, well, if you think about it, like I have a coach, blah, blah, blah. And then I have this like, kind of against the grain, want to be unique I have this like kind of against the grain, want to be unique personality, little rebellious. And I was like, you know, it would be really baller if I just did a bodybuilding show. That would be a cool thing to tell bodybuilding competitions, I would have never pursued it. But I did. And yeah. And so I've done four bodybuilding shows. I ended up hiring the coach that Kate worked with, doing two bodybuilding shows for one prep and just kind of fell in love with it.

Kept wanting to, I had no idea that, you know, how to fuel myself, how to eat and how to do stuff like that. So yeah, started doing bodybuilding and, um, and have done four shows. I haven't done a bodybuilding show since, or in about five years since I was, since I would have been 22. And, uh, but yeah, but it was, it was like, I still like bodybuilding, but, um, but I haven't done it since then. So now my training is, and as I was getting into bodybuilding, that's when I started following bodybuilders. That's when I realized powerlifting was a thing. Strongman was a thing when I started dating writing, when I started dating Ryan, um, I realized how much more there was to powerlifting was a thing. Strongman was a thing. When I started dating Ryan, when I started dating Ryan, um, I realized how much more there was to powerlifting bodybuilding.

And I'm a happy barefoot customer, um, watching Chris stuff in and how much weight he could move in the fact that he just had like really strong looking and was bare barefoot all the time. and was barefoot all the time, I have super flat feet or did. And I was told by my physical therapist that I would never be able to walk without orthotics, without feeling pain. I had to have custom orthotics every year. They'd have to be redone because they'd break down because they were worn or whatever. And I'd have to get new shoes. And it was a lot of money. And then seeing this possible, hey, you could maybe build your foot naturally without needing the support and stuff like that. I thought, well, I have nothing to lose. I'm already spending hundreds of dollars a year for custom orthotics, so why not try it? And so I was super cautious with that. But then Ryan helped encourage me.

I pushed my agenda on her. Not even like only on my upper body days. Yeah. Only on my upper body days. Because I was so nervous about putting weight like in squatting with my like super weak feet. And slowly I started lifting barefoot and then I started walking barefoot and then barefoot came out with shoes. At that time, they had just the toe socks. So once they came out with shoes, I was able to walk around. By this time I was in law school, walk around campus in barefoot shoes. And then after a year, I threw my orthotics away, threw all of my old shoes away,

and I basically only wear barefoot unless I'm wearing, you know, heels for a wedding or something like that. So, um, yeah. And I now have more control over my foot, have no pain, um, other than like soreness that you'd get in muscles in the rest of your body. And my feet now have an arch when they never did. And so I'm like, because of me getting into lifting and into bodybuilding, it helped me meet Ryan was my husband and it helped me get, get my feet healthy for the first time in forever. And also my knees and hips, because that's where the pain would end up going to. And, uh, and so, so happy customer on that side. And then, yeah. And then now, so as I was getting more into watching Duffin, dating Ryan, I started lifting heavier weight, getting more into the technical of squat bench deadlift. Now I'm on, um, I'm on the, the bread Contreras program. And so I am not to get into sets and

reps, but I have three leg days a week to upper body days. And most of it is centered around a squat bench, den lift, um, chin ups, military press and hip thrust. And so that's what I'm doing now. Mostly bodybuilding focused, but definitely plenty of months that, uh, that I get to test out my strength. So yeah. So one of the things you, um, you know, when you, if you get into powerlifting, let's say both of you decided to do a meet at some point, are you going to miss having your back shaved? Yeah. Yeah. Fun facts.

There's a question for Shelby, not Ryan, just so everyone knows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also fun facts. There's a question for Shelby, not Ryan, just so everyone knows. Yeah. Yeah. Also, fun facts. Has absolutely nothing to do with the story I'm about to tell, but one of my nicknames, which I think history repeats itself, one of my nicknames in sixth grade was Shellbock. Yep. But it has absolutely nothing to do with how hairy I am. So for bodybuilding, the last week is where like all your prep comes in. And one of the things, well, like there's a

lot of things that you have to do. First of all, you like the start of the week, you have to start exfoliating, but you can't really use like special soaps because the spray tan is going to be all messed up. So you use Dawn dish soap mixed with sugar and then you, and then you wash with baking soda and Dawn dish soap mixed together later in the week. And again, if I would have known all this upfront before I started bodybuilding, And, again, if I would have known all this up front before I started bodybuilding, I would have been like, y'all, this is weird. Like, are you serious? But then towards the end of the week, you have to shave everything.

And anything that you don't shave, the multiple layers of spray tans, the first layer is like your normal glow for a prom or wedding or whatever the second one you look like a cheeto just straight up cheeto tan and then the last layer is like this like it comes off in water and uh and it's this layer that just makes you black um like as as close to like just super super dark and that layer comes off very easily. So you very quickly devolve into Cheeto in the shower and stuff like that. So that last layer will catch every single hair that is on your body. And so I've had not one, not two, but three people in my life shave my back. And one was Ryan and two were my other really good friends. So yeah, one of my bridesmaids got to share that. Or no, four.

Three out of seven of my bridesmaids um got to share that they have indeed shaved my back great um so we have this game we like to play well we have several games like to play but this is a new one i kind of we came up with not too long ago so it's uh least fun most fun shelby you've probably heard of it um so uh briefly ryan so i'm gonna give you a topic and you give me kind of a you know a brief answer however long you want, of the kind of the best thing about it and the worst thing about it, but least fun, most fun. And I'm going to go with setting up a booth at the, at conventions, lift hard, live easy, any, anywhere you've ever set up a, a barefoot booth.

What's the least fun thing about it. And the most fun thing about setting up a booth for, for, for barefoot out, out in the public. Yeah. fun thing about setting up a booth for barefoot out in the public? Yeah. It's probably no surprise that moving stuff is not fun. I don't really like any part of the process. I'm actually not as... Once I get into an event,

I'm good. I'll have a good time and I'll enjoy talking to people and everything. But ahead of events, I'm dread. I'll have a good time and I'll enjoy talking to people and everything. But ahead of events, I'm dreading it. I'm not social enough to really want to do that. So the whole setting up isn't fun. And then the fun part is when it's done. That's my answer. All right, Shelby, what do you got for us?

Least fun, most fun, setting up a booth? Yeah, probably the least fun is the moving. We actually forgot a push cart at the Arnold, and so we had to carry everything. And if anyone has been to the Arnold, they'll know that the building is huge and the loading dock is not very close to where most booths are. And so this year that, um, that really sucked, but at the same point, and this is kind of the way Ryan and I look at like most manual labor is like, it's a workout. So we didn't get a workout in that day. So at least we get to move stuff and have a, have like a, a really light, um, cumbersome, hot, sticky, strong man workout. So you guys are the meme of, you know,

you don't have to get your workout in a day because you helped move somebody. Right. Yeah, for sure. On those days. Yes. We spoke about this briefly and I want to expand on maybe a little bit, if you're comfortable, what makes a really good expo? And I know Shelby, you gave me some insight onto this and you don't have to name names or or center anybody out um but like what makes a really good

expo for you guys yeah that's a good question um it's so yeah what's the best way to answer that? The Arnold is a fantastic expo because you sell a lot of product. But it is not a good expo to actually have to work. It's awful, actually. I mean, it is fun. Like I said, I do enjoy events when I'm in them. And then when I'm done, it's usually like, oh, that was fun. Because you get to hang out with me at Boston Pizza. Yeah. in them. And then when I'm done, it's usually like, Oh, that was fun. Uh, but, uh, Cause you get to hang out with me at Boston pizza.

Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, the Arnold is just, uh, a marathon on the expo people, or sorry, on the vendors. Um, uh, it does, it's great from a business standpoint it is expensive but last year was really good the year before was okay but but in terms of like working an expo I would say

the best is if they can somehow get you to be able to watch some of the events. And then the quality of like the, well, the demographic, like the people there. So like not just saying this to say it, but like at the lift hard,

live easy. It's a fantastic community of people. Like I'm not just saying this to say it but like at the lift hard live easy it's a fantastic community of people like i'm not just saying it uh uh and it's people who are our demographic they're people who get what we're doing and so and we're like we literally just got to watch powerlifting meet all day so like fantastic or uh i would say the shaw or Strongest Man on Earth, whatever they call it now. They already changed it. Yeah. Also fantastic. They literally schedule it so that the vendors are done before the events start.

So you literally finish working and then you just get to go watch. So it's actually fantastic. And I think they understand that nobody is going to be in the expo during the competition. Everybody's going to go watch. So it would be pointless anyways. like first of all like amazing to to work with and stuff but they really they really are are trying to make a really good expo and event and so like the the friday of the shaw classic the shaw is probably my favorite to work but the friday of the shaw classic they bring in different names including brian last year juji mufufu, Rob Oberst went up there, Nick Best went up there. They bring in different strongmen. I think some bodybuilders and stuff like that to come in and give presentations on something and answer questions in the expo hall. And so that brings in

really high quality audience and fans. And then they come up to your booth when they're not presenting and stuff like that. And that's how they attract people into the expo on Friday. And Friday is only the expo day. We're actually going to be packing up and heading down there next week. And I'm so looking forward to it because they have all of these little treasure chests places. And one of those is just like the way that they set up the whole thing. So, and really good for the spectators, especially good for the athletes, according to what, you know, Trey and other people have said that they really are trying to,

to make it a good event for everyone. And usually, usually the expo people are not included in that converse you know in that sort of conversation and and structure but but they definitely are thinking of us at least it seems like it so it's cool so everybody tune into the strongest man on earth next week it is next oh is that next week yeah awesome i'll have it on while i'm working. I think it starts on a weekend. So unless you, yeah, I mean, Friday might be the first actual day. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.

That's, that's amazing. Thank you for that answer. Um, Keith, is there anything you want to get into or should we play a couple games? I just want to let you, I mean, people want to hear, I mean, just, I always, we've, we've talked a lot about barefoot, but not necessarily like a timeline. So I don't know how you want to, you know, if you want to spend five minutes and just kind of catch us up from origin to today, and then a couple minutes on maybe future of anything that you want to like, not necessarily like spill the beans on private stuff, but like, where do you want the company to go or anything like that? But, uh, you know, I know we, we, both of you have touched on it to some extent. So, I mean, anything we've already said, I kind of omit.

But anything we haven't heard about Barefoot that you want us to know? Yeah, I won't give the long-winded story. So, Barefoot was started in 2019. And basically, there's three of us. There's more owners than three. But there's three of us who really's more owners than three but there's three of us who like really run the company and are the founders um it's myself it's chris duffin um and then uh my partner blake who is also in fargo so blake and i uh met and sort of came up with the company and then, uh, but the inspiration for the company was through following Duffin. Um, and basically, uh,

we just DM him on Instagram, uh, and said, Hey, what do you think about, uh, like this idea? And he rejected us. Like, i don't know how many times but uh in hindsight like now talking to him and everything it was like kind of a test like i'm gonna say no a few times and see like how persistent these guys are but anyways he rejected uh blake my partner uh was the one who was messaging him. He rejected him like a dozen times. That's awesome. And then at some point, he said, like, throw something together.

This was back when, for people who may have been followers the whole time, we started with socks only. Shoes were a second step in the company. So at this point, we were talking about sacks lifting uh socks for lifting him and uh he basically said i put together like a prototype type thing and uh you know let me see what you what you can put together um and we offered him uh a third of the company basically if you would partner with us for free. Which, I don't have any sort of formal business background. My background's in engineering, actually.

And neither does my partner, actually. He just has done, he's owned a couple different little businesses. But in hindsight, this was a pretty brilliant move. Like, for anybody who's trying to start a company, I would actually recommend some kind of strategy like this. Because if you think about it, he had nothing to lose. He didn't invest anything. And maybe you could say his reputation, but, um, we gained the traction and the marketing and the following and just the support of this guy who had this presence in the, in the market we were trying to be in. Um, and just like kind of a win-win scenario. So just a little, little tidbit for

like a little strategy to start a company in a kind of a way that lets you skip a few steps for anybody who's interested in doing that um but uh we flew to portland which is where duffin is people don't know that um uh still did not know if this was real or fake actually uh blake's uh wife like the night before we were supposed to meet him was just like like, you guys are getting catfished. Like, this isn't real. So supportive wife. What the fuck? Yeah, right.

And like, all we had were direct messages on Instagram with him. So it's like, yeah, we don't really know what's going to happen. But we met with him and, you know, we were we lifted at the Kabuki strength lab at that time. Also, don't forget to mention that he literally had you two strangers, literally had you stay at his house. Oh, that's cool. Hang out with his kids. Yeah, he seems like the type. Yeah.

A lot about Duffin as a person. And it probably says something about how Blake and I appear on the internet. But he must have looked at us on Facebook and thought, oh, these guys aren't threatening. Oh, okay, I'll let them sleep in my house. Which was great because we didn't have to

get hotels or anything. And met with him. Basically, everything went well. got him to sign papers and uh that was the founding of the company um and then uh almost immediately our direction moved into shoes because uh that's you know far more important and bigger and uh you can accomplish a lot more in that market uh because our mission was we want to well one you know we wanted to longer but two is the just the entire health aspect the foot health aspect of it and you already touched on this but like we knew that

companies in what's called the minimalist footwear market maybe not everybody knows that term um the other companies are going after hippie runners uh and there's nothing wrong with hippie runners not at all but like who don't run and people who aren't hippies also need uh, need to have healthy feet. So anyways, uh, we got R and D stuff started on the shoes and, uh, uh, we came out with a shoe probably a year after maybe we started. Um, and then there's, I mean, there's a whole lot to the story between then and now, like basically 2020 to now we've been through quite a bit um it's uh certainly a wild ride trying to run a business uh and grow a business uh and it's like i said i had no background in this um and uh it's been a lot of school of hard knocks kind of thing.

But I wouldn't trade it for the world. It's extremely stressful for people who maybe think it's all glamorous looking and stuff from the outside. It's extremely stressful, but there's benefits. There's pros and cons to everything. But trying to hit the lifting community is what we've always tried uh and what kind of evolved out of that and it's also like it's nice to start this is i don't know i i don't want to necessarily give advice but like it's nice to start a company that you are actually a customer in for sure and so like you basically just have to sell to yourself and i am into lifting uh i'm into like outdoor stuff i'm an avid hunter um and i like to hike and you know

all that stuff uh and so we've made the company going into more of the blue collar like people who lift weights don't necessarily run although you know people do run in our shoes actually um and uh people who like to do work and you're just like your common person and maybe isn't so flashy like a lot of the other bright colored shoes and um and so that's kind of where the direction to get boots comes from uh and we we wanted boots for a long time it took a lot of development to do that uh and uh i mean as people probably know we've we've had a boot for quite a while and uh um has gone extremely well we're extremely happy to be in that world.

It's also underserved. So again, trying to think about what spaces are not being served by the other companies. And then to basically get us up to speed, at the moment, we have pre-orders for an American-made boot, which is also something we have wanted to make happen. I was going to bring those up because that's right that's really cool um i right i was bare before barefoot i was wearing the red wing because those are american made too right and you know seeing that you guys are going to go that direction that's the patriot boot you guys are releasing right yeah that's that's correct and uh we were basically just stuck uh being told that that wasn't really possible for quite a while

um and then circumstances happened uh that led us to put more energy into it and uh we found this guy in wyoming who makes incredible boots shout out to schmidt's boot maker um in wyoming uh but uh yeah we are uh super excited for that and that's that's actually why we were late to the lift hard live easy classic because the day before ryan flew to wyoming and back in in the same day so that's that's why that's why we we let ourselves sleep in a little bit before headed down and we didn't think tanner and tommy would be too mad at us for showing up late that's right that's fair yeah we had to shake some hands you know we we like to do things maybe in a more old-fashioned way like we just wanted to actually meet him absolutely shake his hand spend some time talking to him and stuff in person.

So it had to be done. Uh, I don't necessarily like flying that much, but, uh, that was a long day. So there's, there's maybe two things I want to add just from a personal perspective.

Um, those damn socks. I, I, I have always hated the toe socks, the toe shoes. And at the first Arnold, um,

and maybe I think I've mentioned this story before, but it's always worth telling with you guys here. Um, Shelby was one of the first people outside of massonomics to make me feel important. So I go over to the Arnold thing and I had a massonomics shirt or hat on and Shelby goes, Oh, are you into massonomics? And I had a mass nomics shirt or hat on. And Shelby goes,

Oh, are you into mass nomics? And I showed her my tattoo and she knew my name just from my tattoo. And I did. You're the guy. Yeah. I felt like a celebrity at the Arnold for a few minutes there. Like that was incredible. Um,

but then, um, she says, have you tried these socks? And she gives me your socks which are the the black ones with the the rubber soles right and i was like sure i'll try these in my head i was just like i'm not gonna like these and the first time i put them on and i squatted in them i i i promise you i cursed shelby i was like now i love these and now I've got to put these on for every lift.

I got to sit there and stick my fingers in between my toes and make these comfortable and make these work. But I think I want them actually at your gym. They are, they are genuinely like they made, I prefer to lift barefoot, but sometimes you can't. Right. And yeah, I was like, damn it. Shelby. It but sometimes you can't right and yeah i was like

damn it shelby it was the what no way guy i was like fuck's sake now i gotta wear this all the time i just gotta put on toe socks um so yeah you know that was a huge thing you guys did for me there and um i think from that point on you know i've now i own multiple pairs of barefoot shoes and uh the other one i wanted to point out is um blake it's really funny that you bring him up because like he's a ghost like yeah he's got he's nowhere on social media he's he's just like this background guy that i know of and i'm sure most of the listeners and i'm gonna put this into the the barefoot discord when it's released most people don't know who blake is and i think that that's uh it's funny that you

were like oh yeah he was messaging chris on the instagram i was like blake i said gram fuck that no he doesn't pardon my language no he doesn't yeah um yeah it's it's it's intentional uh he i mean i'm i'm almost neither of us really because we have duffin neither of us really, because we have Duffin, neither of us really try to be in the public sphere. But Blake is even way more than me. He like actively is trying to avoid it. Yeah. Good luck finding. Yeah.

I think I emailed customer service because I was waiting for my Moss shoes and they said, oh, April release. And I think in like Januaryuary march april may so in may i finally emailed customer service and i was like hey blake said that uh he'd look into it but i don't want to bother him anymore and their first sentence back was you have access to blake and i think like that's a very good sign of like it like just i was like you don't like i thought that was pretty funny. Who are you? Yeah. As you were saying, he was like, we flew out. It's like, nobody's ever met Blake.

He doesn't really exist. Is there anything that you would want to do with barefoot? You don't have to give us any like insight on your plans or anything, but like, is there like a future direction where you're like, this is the ultimate i think if i got there that's where i want to be yeah uh absolutely so one which i think will make quite a few people happy uh is we are a hundred percent on board trying to make a steel toe boot happen yeah um like we are completely committed into making that happen. It's just a, it's a, it's a more involved project.

It's a lot more technical and there's the standards you have to meet and all that stuff. But just, you know, that I can say it will happen. It's a matter of timing and basically just making it happen. So that is like one out of all of the goals we have in terms of like you know products and stuff like that um that's at the top and and we get i mean

every single day we're getting messages i see it all the time too yeah yeah so that is at the top of the list um which hopefully can happen actually sooner rather than later with our new American made stuff being spun up here. Actually guys, what would be a really, really cool thing for us to see is if you, if you wanted to do this, you don't have to, but we'd love to see out of the, the people that out of your followers and stuff like that, if they would prefer a steel toe or a composite toe. I was just going to ask you, what was your, oh yeah, because of steel.

Because it's usually composites a lot lighter and then they even have different levels of alloy. Like I've had, I don't know, it was still metal, but it was lighter than typical steel. But yeah, I guess you can't see a huge market for that. If people actually wear it. I'm supposed to wear steel toe boots every day and I probably haven't in eight years, but don't tell anybody.

Right. So, yeah, I say steel-toed, but I specifically just mean a protective toe or industrial. I'm so compliant. Yeah. We're in the process of actually deciding what one of those to go with. we're in the process of actually deciding what one of those to go with at least first, maybe we'll end up with both because we've found speaking with some people and then speaking with bootmakers that there are quite a few,

there's pros and cons to both. So we have to make the best decision on what suits like the bulk of the people that we want to serve. But it is helpful to get more opinions on that. on what suits like the bulk of the people that we want to serve. Um, but it is helpful to get more opinions on that. So I think that's what Shelby was trying to point out. DM us later specifically, like the, the,

the poll you want me to post and I'll throw that up next week. No, no issue. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then, uh,

I mean, there's a whole lot of directions that are a lower priority than that one, because that one will kind of round off the, kind of like what I said about like kind of blue collar work slash outdoors slash, you know, that section of the business is what would kind of be more complete with that. what would kind of be more complete with that um we are i mean we have stuff and like uh some thoughts on a more like more dressy products um which is also an underserved market uh so you know basically a dress shoe that's what i'm talking about um but that is definitely a lower priority so there's not really much i can say uh on that um but that's a direction we would like and i mean there is a lot there's kids shoes which we also know is majorly underserved i've been i've been trying man like my my kid keeps saying he's like i want barefoot shoes like daddy i want barefoot shoes like daddy he I want barefoot shoes like daddy.

He's five years old. And like everything is from like 12 and up. Like you can't get these kids shoes. But the problem is of course, buying a five-year-old shoes, I'm not going to spend $150 because he's going to grow them in a year. Right. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of, I can see how would be um a barrier into that right and

you if you just think about yeah barrier uh if you think about just kind of like the way this like move if you want to call it a movement that seems kind of cringy to me but like the way that it works is like you are convinced of some of the the philosophy and the like the concepts of what we're promoting and that's you know the promoting the foot strength and health from like a functional physical therapy training standpoint um with the wide toe box the flat all the all the stuff um and then you you think about okay these people there's like their feet you they're fundamentally transforming their feet most people can't really go back to normal shoes after they've worn ours for enough time not a chance um but these people lots of them have children and they're fixing their own feet and they're seeing their child start to grow up and

then they start to wear normal you know nikes or whatever um uh and they want to try to get the benefits for their children. And that's where it's, um, there's massive potential there. Uh, it's, it's on the to-do list. Um, but, uh, yeah, there's, there's not a lot of headway being made on that at the moment, but I'd say those are kind of the big kind of directional areas that we would like to go into, um, as well as just kind of expanding on what we're currently doing.

So, you know, uh, we, we've been, like people have been noticing, we've been trying to ramp up like more colored ways and stuff like that. Um,

my moss green shoes, my favorite shoes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Those moss with the, the, the wine colored laces there. They're my favorite thing. Um yeah those moss with the the the wine colored

laces they're they're my favorite thing um yeah and and you know it definitely is a bit of a movement i i started going to this place in town here that's like a bit of an arcade um and a bar and a restaurant because we can bring the kids and we can go and enjoy time while they go play games and uh their owner i just happen to notice it's a big gigantic dude like he's jacked so i just started talking to him and he actually goes oh are you a barefoot guy and i was like aha and i showed him my shoes he's like oh i know those guys like all the way up here in canada like they knew your brand and everything like that like you guys definitely you know did something there um so yeah canada canada is definitely well, obviously because you guys are right north

of us, but like they're, they're number one out of the international customers. Um, and then, uh, surprisingly Australia is actually pretty high up there. That doesn't shock me there. Yeah. I think. And, uh, yeah. And we, we have, uh, uh, the man of mystery, uh, Tom Havilland is kind ofand. I was going to ask about that. That's funny.

That was on my list of things to ask. Tell me more about this man. Well, I mean, he is a mystery. So even us, it's very little. When he calls you guys, does he have something over his face? So never done a phone call uh-huh entirely email correspondence um and just kind of knowing uh you know as you work with somebody you kind of get a feel for a little bit of who they are their personality um we don't want to

like push any sort of you know anything we don't want to like reveal anything about him that he doesn't want like just like so so we just uh we just basically once and he just kind of was like yeah i'd like to work with you and we're like wow tom evelyn like the most mysterious legendary guy on the internet yeah for a while there He was just monumental growth. I mean, he was, um, but yeah, he, uh, he took kind of a strength internet world by storm there for a bit. Yeah. Cause he's like lifting logs and jumping. Like this dude is, oh yeah. Gigantic. Uh, Anton up here at pure muscle. He's one of your guys too, right? Um, he works out of the gym just

around the corner from my workplace oh really that's cool yep sam bellevue i think she's also canadian yeah yeah yeah sam and maxine yeah yeah yeah so you guys uh definitely up here but i think it's time for some silly games do you mind go for it let's shoot okay um that was a lot of ryan talk i'm gonna move over to shelby if that's okay i'm gonna do a mount rushmore with shelby keith you all right with that yep all right um i want to hear your mount rushmore of 2000s dance club songs oh okay Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. You know, I haven't listened to that podcast yet. It's okay. It's okay.

I basically listened to like the Cherry Pick, the Tanner episode, the big Dr. Jake from State Farm episode, and then maybe a couple more because it's just in my feed now. But's uh i don't know a lot of a lot of a lot of talk about topics i'm like okay i don't i'm bored but there's still there's still good content it's just you know it's an acquired taste i think i'm still acquiring it yeah i mean there's also a ton of podcasts out there but anyway i'm just stalling so um i'd say Every Time We Touch by Cascada. Okay. Do you guys know that or no? I had to think about it for a second, but I'm fairly certain it's in my head. I had a playlist on about, it's funny, without even seeing these notes, I put on a random Eurodance 20,000s or 90s.

So that probably was on there, and I'm kind of thinking about it. Yep. Yeah. If you heard it, it's the, Every time we touch kind of thinking about it. Yep. Yeah. If you, if you heard it, it's the, every time we touch, I get this. Okay.

Didn't electric call boy just cover that. Ooh, maybe. I don't know who that is. I think they did. They did a dance metal version of it. Okay. Yep.

Yep. So that's, that's, that's definitely a bop. Um, I, I, That's definitely a bop. I don't think you can not put Baby One More Time on there. Yep. Britney Spears. Britney Spears.

Yeah. 2000s Dance. I think this one would count. Hips Don't Lie by Shakira. Heck yes. So I think it should count. Shakira's underrated for sure. For sure.

For sure. I was so excited for her to do the Super Bowl. Although, they need to pick... Let's pick non-pop people for a little bit to do the Super Bowl show. Yeah, that'd be nice.'s a mystery back in there metallica at super bowl would be dope that would be incredible yeah that would be incredible yeah or i've seen them live they are good yeah or or even like acdc just a like a few years ago that would be sweet you know but yeah yeah no so but was happy to see her at least because i love her um and i'm not sure if like i'm not sure if this would count as technically dance but i don't i i have to um party for two shania twain it is 2000ain. It is 2000s.

It is 2000s country, but it's pop country. So I'm including that one, even though it's technically not a dance hit because she's a queen. We'll allow it because it's your game. Sweet. Brothers are encouraged. Brothers are encouraged. Keith, do you want to do an FMK with Shelby or do you want to do it with Ryan I'll just go to Ryan because then we're already at two

so for us to carry on this is going great let's go I'll just do FMK with Ryan and then we can move on to unpaid probably I had him out Rushmore for Ryan after your FMK okay alright Ryan so at fuck marry kill FMK

previous jobs so So plumber, sanitation worker, dental lab tech, FMK. Wow. Um, there were a lot of ones about your shoes, but I did, I didn't want to have to have you shit on your own shoes. So this is a good one yeah i appreciate that um uh kill the sanitation worker or job yeah yeah um uh and actually kill the garbageman just all the we'll just all be hippies with compost hope uh heaps yeah i have like seven compost heaps i would say mary dental dental lab tech is what i was uh for a bit because that's that's pretty solid career you know stable um and then fuck the it was a i don't know if you said plumbing laborer but it was a laborer yeah that's fair yeah that's that's how i go what's a dental lab that's not a that's not is that actually the person that cleans your teeth or something completely different uh basically so i mentioned uh a lot of my family are dentists um basically i worked in the clinic um but like basically i

was making people's retainers and making those those plaster molds of people's teeth that they make well that's making those yeah that that's up your alley with the engineering aspect then that's pretty cool exactly yeah it's the cool exactly yeah because nobody wants to be a laborer for a plumber it's alright but I would definitely rather sit in a lab and still get some blue collar work with a lab coat on right

you got a Rushmore for him Joey? I do I want your Mount Rushmore of DC superheroes. Yeah. So superheroes. Okay. Okay.

You know what? Dad entities. So characters. They don't, they don't have to be a hero yeah it's just anybody in the universe um so i'm probably sort of like stereotypical but then non-stereo so like it's hard not to you know just superman and batman like you can't not put them on there um but uh one of my favorite characters is lobo who is kind of more obscure character he's the space cowboy he's yes uh and he borders between villain and hero kind of an anti-hero type um kind of a dc deadpoolish type of thing um

as far as like his tone but um i actually named my dog lobo and uh did not know that lobo means wolf in spanish until after i had named him that. And then people were like, Oh, you named him wolf. And I'm like, sure. Yes. I sure did. Um, so yeah,

Lobo is on there, even though he's like extremely unknown and obscure, but, uh, it's my Mount Rushmore. Uh, and I'm trying to think of another more obscure

one. I really like Dr. Fate. Really? Yeah. I'll throw him on there. If I was going to take the question like technically seriously, then I'd probably put in most of the main justice people,

but you're still welcome to do that. Yeah. Well, I mean, so despite recent movies and things, I'm a fan of the flash. So of course. Yeah. One course. Yeah.

One more? Oh, well... You said Lobo, Doctor... Oh, you said Batman. Okay, that must have been when your microphone cut out. I introduced Big Joey, aka Big Math, over here. Big Math.

Well, no, I just didn't hear Batman. I know. His microphone must have cut out. Yeah, no, that's fair. Who's your favorite Batman, movie-wise? I mean, I like... Well, it's definitely in between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. I might say that The Dark Knight was a better movie,

but I just love Bane. Me too. that the dark night was a better movie, but like, I just love Bane. Uh, me too. So like, like I've done before, my inner monologue is Bane's voice. Yeah.

Like when I, when I think to myself, it's in Tom Hardy as Bane's voice. Yes. Uh, so that's probably my favorite, even though I would maybe conceive, like if somebody was trying to say that the dark night was just a better

like movie. So you would say, so Christian Bale standpoint. So Christian Bale is your favorite Batman. Yes. I mean, I like some of the old ones, but,

uh, Christian, I like, I can't, I can't get over how good the Christopher Nolan trilogy is. Like it's just, it's too good. So that, that flex mine, I think that flex was a really good representation of like, it's just, it's too good. So.

Bat, Batfleck's mine. I think Batfleck was a really good representation of Batman, even more comic accurate. Yeah. Yeah. Even though, well,

not in Batman versus Superman, he wasn't a comedian in that one. Then they ruined him in the justice league. Um, but I do really enjoy his representation cause it was very close to the dark night returns. Yeah. Which is an amazing story. Yeah. Uh uh keith do you have anything you want to do uh yeah well for even steven's ness uh i did find an fmk for shelby that might actually been under ryan's but i'm gonna run it with shelby because i think it's actually very intriguing so fmk so these are four three things that you never

have to do again is essentially the the topic uh or the way it was submitted so things that you never have to do again is essentially the topic or the way it was submitted. So FMK, never have to clean again, never have to sleep again, never have to cook again. So you're eliminating either cleaning, sleeping or cooking from your life in FMK. Oh, yeah. Okay. Cleaning, cooking or sleeping. Oh, also, like I heard a take on FMK, fornicate, elope, and I don't remember,

unalive, it's the PC version of FMK? Yeah, it's the TikTok-friendly one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't know where that was from, but I thought fornicate was was funny it's like it's a great great word that's that's an underrated word for sure anyway um but all uh i think never never having to sleep again would be like incredibly helpful towards you know just life

just being able to be well rested all the time without needing to take the time to sleep but i think i'm gonna have to fornicate that one and i'm going to have to marry never having to cook again because i i just it's not my thing. I, um, I do it because I have to, and Ryan cooks in the house more than me. And if I never had to cook again, not saying that Ryan had to cook, but say we just like hired a master chef or something like that, that'd be amazing. Um, so yeah. And then, yeah, I, I'd kill never having to clean again. Cleaning is like satisfying and fine. So who cares? It's fine.

I'd rather never have to cook and never have to. What was the other one? I already forgot. Sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Because eliminating sleep was kind of like, yeah, you gain that extra, you know, four to eight hours of sleep, I guess, depending on how much sleep you get back in your day. All right. I have one last

question before we start to round this out. And I did put this into the Discord for Barefoot. And this one comes from BigZack, who I think is also Masknomics' crew, so it's kind of not fair. Would you consider

selling just the souls? Because he would like to put the brew and souls into his Ursus. Oh, wow. That's a, I didn't see that, that connection coming. We have explored that.

So I guess, so straight up answer to that is we've explored it, but kind of the, the logistics of it don't make a whole lot of sense for us to source that exact outsole. Um, but I have, and actually he could reach out to us. Um, if he just, if he, if he's serious about it, he could, uh, email us and ask like a customer service about this but we have and he could mention that i've heard this from me or something but um we have a pretty solid like it's a great outsole alternative um that you can buy in sheets that uh if you wanted to re-sole bruins or i guess in his case he wants to put it on his actual versus, which is,

I've actually never even considered doing that, but, um, it's a thicker, better like outsole than if you're trying to get something thicker and more sturdy, um, you can order sheets of it and it's Vibram brand,

which is like the premier outsole company of the world. and, uh And if they, if he was interested, he could reach out to us and we could point them in the direction of where you can get that. You know, this, this freaking shoe that he's talking about is kind of,

is kind of the Ursa day, isn't it? Kind of. Well, I mean that if you wanted a heavier shoe uh that is basically the nurse today which i guess maybe is worth mentioning is kind of a new product we just got that in um is a light boot or you could say a heavy shoe but it's much closer to a boot in terms of like how the outsole is and everything. Um, but the fit is quite similar to the Ursus.

Um, it's suede, isn't it? It's an oiled suede. Um, so it's like, well looking, I mean,

I'm biased, but, uh, it's got a cool character to the surface looks on it. It's like this got texture and depth to it. Um, it's more, you know,

because it's oiled, it's way more water resistant. And then the inside is also lined fully with leather. So, um, it's a lot sturdier and like more durable overall. Um, even though it is still suede,

but it's like a much beefier and sturdier, uh, material. All right. There you go, Zach. Um, even though it is still suede, but it's like a much beefier and sturdier, uh, material. All right. There you go, Zach. Um, I'll make sure I post this in the, uh, in the barefoot discord and bother our, our new friend, Mel. Um, yeah, shout out to Mel. No, she's been amazing in there actually.

Um, so I'm sorry we didn't get to talk more about your dogs or the hunting or, you know, you got your, got your barefoot archery, your barefoot hunting. Like there's so many aspects that we just didn't get to touch on, but I also don't want to do a four hour podcast. The two person episodes are a little harder to like hit.

Like, so I will thank, uh, you know, you guys did some self submissions and you, you got some family and friends self submit or submit for, uh, you know,

the questionnaire we're going to see, like Joey said, we're going to skip a lot of it, but really appreciate you guys actually submitting that. We'd never really know what we're going to get into. And, uh, you know,

we don't want to definitely hit on barefoot a lot more maybe than like the individual people, but I think we did a good mix of both and, uh, very happy with how this is coming out. Yeah. Well, if you ever run out of people to bring on the podcast,

we'd come on again individually maybe next time don't threaten me with a good time because there has been times where it's like an hour before a show and i'm texting people going hey i really need somebody tonight it'd be cool to do like a like an all chocolate chip round table sometime like because we've had like five or six round table or five or six uh you know uh chocolate chips on so far that'd be kind of cool just give us a break yeah that's all right keith what's next uh so we got this little game called unpaid or underrated so similar ish to uh overrated and underrated but instead of overrated we uh supplement it with

unpaid so if anything you don't really like we're going to call unpaid anything you think's pretty cool go underrated i actually forgot about this i're going to call unpaid. Anything you think is pretty cool, go underrated. I actually forgot about this. I'm going to give you some topics of the game. You were ready to do the affiliates and close it out. Well, that's why I was going to like 1043. I was like, it's been two and a half hours.

We've got another, we literally another, this is going to take us 20 minutes to get through this, brother. All right. So it's kind of hard because I cherry pick some stuff out of each year submission. So if you think it's

for you answered, if you both want to answer it, feel free. If you know, it has no correlation to you just, you know, don't say anything, I guess. Uh, so unpaid or underrated. Um, so this is a, a local Fargo business in the gym equipment realm that you guys should be familiar with. So PRX, what do you think of PRX? Yeah. Unpaid or underrated? Oh yeah. We, we probably, we probably both can talk about this. So, um, PRX was actually started in Fargo and I have like, like my, my parents have, have home gym when I used to live with them. Um, we have home gyms at our Lake home, which otherwise doesn't have a nearby gym. We have home gyms at our lake home which otherwise doesn't have a nearby gym we have home gyms at our lake home and we have a home gym in arizona both of them have prx racks in them and that's

because like the space full like having them fold in and stuff like that it's it's it's great um that being said i was so like i'm i'm someone i'm a classic midwesterner like if something comes out of north dakota there's not many if something comes out of North Dakota, there's not many things that come out of North Dakota. So I'm always like, yeah, North Dakota company, this is amazing. And so I've always been like PRX coming from Fargo. That's so cool.

And then they do the thing with whatever those lever arm stuff was and got like quite a bit of flack for that and i did i did actually listen to your like their little redemption you know tidbit that you gave on the podcast last week i was actually listening to it today so i'm glad they like maybe mended there's ended that so fences have been mended it seems like the guys that were scorned or seem to be happy so you know i i don't have a dog i don't have a dog of fun in the fight anymore because the guys that were you know basically ripped off ish adjacent if you will have been in works to partner to some extent or

be part of future endeavors so they're all seem to be copacetic yeah that's that's cool because i mean what what i me and ryan kind of talked about this, but when I found out that like Kaizen and the other guys, I can't remember. Vendetta. Vendetta, thank you. When they were like, you know, maybe being ripped off and stuff like that, I was like, you know what probably actually happened was, you know, the people that started PRX has a pulse on the home gym market and stuff like that in the culture and blah, blah, blah. But whatever other investors that they got during COVID that made them explode was like, well, we don't care about that. And then it somehow got out of control, out of hand, and then it sounds like they're mending it now. So maybe that's actually the case.

I know nothing about it, but one of my bridesmaids one well i had two maids of honor co-maids of honor one of them actually works for prx in the like sensory occupational therapy department of it which they have like prx that's like home gym and stuff like that and then they have prx that's for like uh people with disabilities and like and rehab and stuff like that that's cool i heard all about that like like no one even stuff like that. That's cool as hell. I heard all about that. Like, like no one even knew about that until they,

they did a big interview on garage gym radio. And one of the guys actually like went on like a, you know, a fight, like they basically like, they, they didn't really want to talk about it. Like the guys on the podcast wanted them to talk about it to like,

push your, like you have, like, this is something you're not like telling people. This is actually really dope that you have this. That is actually dope. And it makes perfect sense. People with issues, you with issues you know with with with ailment um yeah that makes a perfect sense that's actually really cool yeah and she actually has like a dream job

where um she she's someone that like was you know a little bit heavier in high school and then lost a whole bunch of weight through crossfit and you know crossfit does a lot of stuff with adaptive athletes and stuff like that and then she figured out that she wanted to go to occupational therapy school and her like capstone project thing was working with CrossFit and PRX to like start to design some things for like an occupational therapy, like occupational therapist lens of coaching mental disabilities, as well as, you know, the physical disabilities that CrossFit is already kind of doing. And, and then she ended up getting hired there. So she's a licensed occupational therapist working

on figuring out equipment for sensory disabilities and stuff like that. So it's super cool. So I'd say with all of that, with them being a North Dakota company, with them mending the whole stuff going on with Kaizen and Vendetta, I'd say overall underrated. Good deal. Long answer. Yeah.

Hey, others are welcome. Good discussion, though. Perfect. Let's go with unpaid or underrated blue jeans. uncomfortable and I feel so bad for men. Like you guys just like, don't really have other options besides jeans. So you don't know any different, like jeans are so uncomfortable compared to leggings. I wear shorts and kilts. And then in the winter I will wear track pants or joggers or whatever we call them. Uh, I call, I call jeans hard pants. It's what I have to wear when I go to work. I have to wear my hard pants.

Yeah. You can get them with enough spandex and stuff that they kind of just like, they don't feel like jeans, but then you chub rub right through those. And yeah. Well, the only exception I would say is born primitive, born primitive shorts. And the only reason I figured out that born primitive even had like these super soft, you know, jeans and stuff like that was from the lift shorts so massonomics is what got me to like the only pair of jean shorts that i actually like and so born primitive has girl jean shorts too that are extremely comfortable and ryan has a ton of the massonomics lift shorts and stuff like that but yeah overall, very unpaid, yet the Mastanomics lift jorts are definitely underrated.

Good answer. Last one for me. I'm going to go with the crumble cookie. You know, I would say underrated because it's fantastic, but we've had so much of it that it's, it's losing its luster a little bit. And it's also just kind of blown up. So everybody's having it. So it's,

it's hard to say it's underrated, but I'm, I am saying it's fantastic. It's kind of like evenly rated now. No, no riding the line. It's underrated. All all right underrated it is do you want me to do the next one skeet or do you want to keep going i mean i don't have to answer all those if you want i can if you want to yeah i'll take a few

i've i've done most of the talking so okay feel free to do uh yeah i got one more next one's um unpaid or underrated fargo, the movie or TV show, however you want to interpret it. Or if you have answers for either or. Ooh. Yeah. So actually I haven't seen the movie. Okay. Which is weird because I'm living in Fargo.

But season, season one of the series underrated. It is fantastic. Yeah. It is. It was awesome. Season one was probably was the best i think they're on like season i think season four or five's coming out but they're all they get they get

they get they're they're definitely unique very uh some of them take some weird twist at the end and but it's all it's all i've enjoyed all of it myself i don't think i've seen it also being from this area it is like it has another layer of oh for sure yeah because of their yeah their uh their like representation of how we are up here is it's hilarious i feel like we've had a few guests on from fargo i believe or at least a couple right because you know dave and uh yeah like yeah they feel like you guys i I don't know if I'm immune to hearing different accents now, maybe, because I'm assimilated to my friends all talking

different. You guys do not have the Fargo twang that I... I think Katie had a pretty deep Fargo twang out of the four Fargoans. I feel like that accent

is more in minnesota and especially the youper like the youpers in michigan i feel like that's where the like oh don't you know like you betcha like we don't really have that or at least and that's it's actually a little closer to a Canadian accent, right? Yeah. I think that's one of the things. The first time I heard it, I was like, no, that's like, like Northern Ontario, that kind of that area, like Letterkenny and stuff like that. Sudbury is where that is. A list of all is where I would hear more of that than I would anywhere else. And it's, yeah. Every time I hear people talk about the Fargo accent, I was like,

no, that's a Canadian accent. Pretty much. Yeah. And I mean, I say oofta like every single day, but it's not like oofta. It's oofta. Oofta. I've never heard that phrase in my life.

Yeah. Oh, oofta is just like something, I don't know, something bad happened or or it's something something's really heavy after i gotcha i gotcha it's oof what are you what are you saying right now you've never said i was like there's turmoil i say i love it okay whatever only on the unpaid underrated podcast um i'll do i'll do one more because it's uh i'm not sure how you can not like these i guess um unpaid or underrated calendars oh god i i hate calendars that's what i hear what's that i want to hear a why oh they literally keep the world running on time well they just exist like i i barely look at them i hear you um i am just so bad at dates and uh like

locking things into scheduling and like and so when when i start to see my calendar fill up which it seems to always do it's almost like like a it's almost like claustrophobia it's a leash yeah um it's like claustrophobia of my time um i see it yep okay so i got it where i actually think anxiety to put stuff on my calendars yeah where i actually think it like gives you more freedom to have stuff on the calendar because then you can work around that stuff and then you know that stuff is coming so i i've i've said multiple times that like i'm just gonna i'm just gonna gaslight him into saying that like i've told him all of these things like hey ryan in in a month we we got a wedding you know and and just like but i don't actually tell him i just tell him like the day before we need to leave for the wedding and say, I've, I've told you like 10 times.

You knew about this. Oh no, that's not fair. You can't do that. How many times did I have to tell you? I'm kind of, I'm with Ryan on this one. Cause it's like, even today I was like, okay, so I have a call in the morning and then I have the podcast and I have to work tomorrow. Then I have the meet on Saturday. Then I have to work again and like it just all starts to meld into just like responsibilities where all i want to do is lift and drink and spend time in the backyard like

that's all i want to do and that becomes yeah a leash that was a very good example there keith yeah i i i mean i understand i get that i i hate that there's shit on my calendar but i also like i don't want to be surprised my my my calendar is two months out, like the project's already scheduled, more or less. It's where at least we're four to eight weeks out at any given time. So, you know, getting my personal shit on the calendar to take time off is very important. So I don't know. It's just me being efficient with my calendar and always being three months ahead almost is the only way I get to do what I want to do. Right.

And I'm just OCD in nature. So calendars and schedules and spreadsheets, it's all kind of correlates the same. Yeah. I'm a planner too. Indeed. Yeah. It definitely should be a useful tool,

but I just, I honestly, I think part of it is that barefoot has ruined, ruined me for that because things can be so volatile sometimes. And it is just, I've almost given up on some, obviously we'd still plan things, but I've given up on some of that because it's like,

I can't predict what's going to happen most of the time. I imagine doesn't, doesn't get a lot of phone pre-scheduled phone calls. Does he miss a lot of phone calls? Yeah. He's a, he's a wild card for sure. Yeah. Whether he's going to a wild card for sure yeah whether

he's going to be in a meeting or not is a 50 50 chance and then he's always he's always like tinkering like fixing his truck or something like that he uh so he he's very much like basically he he does his best thinking when he's working with his hands and the thing of choice for Chris Duffin working with his hands is working on his trucks. Um, and so you'll just hear like, like a pile of bolts being like, you know,

like chains and bolts and like sockets and stuff just being handled in the middle of a meeting. And it's like, put it on mute, man. Come on. Did he ever sell the, uh,

the apocalypse vehicle? Cause I know he has like an, like a, like a big extended cab truck before that. It was like the apocalypse vehicle basically. Yeah. War war pig. Yeah.

So the war rig, he's still working on. He still has that. Okay. The, uh, the Dodge pickup that he outfitted with like the squat rack and stuff on the flatbed that he sold with the,

I don't even know what size tires that thing had. I have written in that and it was ridiculous. Yeah. I can, I can see Chris not following like speed limits and like road sound like, like, like that's a stop sign. I'm just going to go right through it.

I could see him just not. Well, it's also Portland and it's hilarious to drive through portland with like a monster truck it's yeah it's quite an experience a bunch of electric vehicles and then chris duffin yeah um i think i'm only going to do one just for the sake of time um so unpaid or underrated the alternative benefits of vassal blitz so that's a harken back to when Chris was on the massonomics podcast

so yeah I'd say both of us would say underrated coming from a happily married couple not to get too graphic I guess yeah yeah yeah all right is it vaso that's what i want to know we've always said vasoblitz i think it's really i say yeah so if somebody said like you're you're the system through which your blood travels through your body how do you what would you

call that the vascular the vascular v What would you call that? The vascular system. The vascular system. The vascular system. Sure. You don't say the vascular system. But I would call it vasodilation. Oh, I wouldn't. I'd say vasodilation.

That's interesting. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. He say all kinds of things weird. He does. I had to explain it to my co-worker today. Yeah. Tomato, tomato, vasod tomato basil it's uh i mean you know

i've been i don't know i've been on basil blitz for a really long time so i don't even know what it's like to be off of it anymore but it's awesome stuff yeah all right well that rounds out unpaid and underrated which moves us into the last section which is whatever you guys have for us yeah so um me and ryan came up with a couple of things um we'd like to hear uh just like i write i wrote the fan fiction actually that would eventually become the ursonomics and also was able to name the nurse ursonomics that was at the arnold last year not this this arnold this year but last year when we kidnapped tanner and tommy in our in the back of the van um that's when that's when i i

just was like ursus mass Masonomics, Ursonomics. And they're like, we actually really like that. So just like I created the fan fiction for what would eventually be the Ursonomics, if you could design a barefoot shoe, what style and colors would you choose? Could be a style that exists, or it could be a mixture of styles or a complete Franken shoe to come up with. But if you could pick any colors and mix of colors and styles that you

would like, what would it be? I'll go. Cause I, I know I have less experience in general. So I would go with like the way my only experience is the ergonomics and it's dope. It's for, it's replaced my deadlift shoe of choice and i'll i will deadlift in that shoe until

it dies and then i want to like you know badger you to make something similar to it um but i would do that shoe in black and orange uh of some variety for my that's my that's my gym theme color so uh that would probably be my answer because I'm deadlifting in those to where I could actually, like the end goal would be, I'd love to have a powerlifting kit that was just black and orange. And it's so like, it's impossible

because you can never like find, you know, once you find the brand you like, no one ever has the colorway that you want. It's like, fuck. So you end up with like different variations of red and maroon and, you know, different, you know, blacks. And it's just nothing really matches. But yeah, that would be my answer for sure.

Oh, that's good. I wish I had this like in advance. So I do podcast. No, that's true. I do prefer the low tops. I do have a pair of the high tops. Morgan bought them for me for for Christmas. She said they'd look better with the kilt,

right. Rather than the low tops. Um, but I do prefer the low tops in general, just because I, I like the ankle mobility and I don't like having to tie my shoes all the time. Um, I'd probably go with an Indigo color, uh, because that, that, dark blue is always attractive to me. Maybe a stitching or a lace that's a bit of the opposite, like a light green. I think it's something I would wear. Maybe I would appreciate that, like the indigo with the light green or even the purple with the light green is something I would do. Um, but I think that those are good colors. It would be, that's the, that's the shoe I would design.

Um, and the new souls, I like the old souls, but the new souls, as much as it took some getting used to, um, I think we talked about this at the lift, hardly easy. Uh, they are significantly better. You you're right. They're different and I wasn't prepared for them, but I think, yeah about this at the lift, hardly VZ. They are significantly better. You you're right. They're different. And I wasn't prepared for them, but I think, yeah, the new souls would be better in them. I think that's the insoles you're talking about.

Yeah. Yeah. The insoles. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And I would prefer to not step in gum in them. Right.

Yeah. The ongoing joke is every time I buy a new pair of barefoot shoes, I step in gum immediately And it's impossible to remove Oh man Canada needs to figure that out Freeze it off That's literally how you're supposed to get gum Ban chewing gum

Fuck People that spit their chewing gum out on the sidewalks Are douches Or in the gym I mean we didn't touch on that But I own a couple gyms here in town. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. I've literally found gum in the middle of the gym.

Bozos. Who are you? Bozos do that. We've actually taught my son now, if he sees somebody littering, he calls them a bozo. As he should. Yeah, that's bozo shit. Don't litter. Don't spit your gum on the sidewalk or in the gym.

Ew. Yeah, so dumb. All right. like that's bozo shit don't don't litter don't spit your gum on the sidewalk or in the gym ew yeah so dumb all right good question yeah so that's that's the main question and then i don't um i mean i have like other stuff but we don't have a lot of time so i just want to bring up one thing it's actually i think the best thing in my humble opinion to come out of north dakota other than barefoot shoes of course um and that would be uh do you have any idea what chippers are and if you don't i'd like to hear what your best guess is i do not and i'm assuming it's a food it's probably not that smoked meat Joey was talking about last week, but

let's... Those are paparazzi, weirdo. Also... Do you guys know what meat sticks are? Do you guys know what paparazzi are? Brief harking, like poll results, like I don't have them in front of me but like 87% of the people didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. Yeah, because you're American. What word? What word is that?

So in Canada, meat sticks sticks like the dried cured we call them pepperettes up here we always have pepperettes yeah yeah no we don't what we would call them is like if they're if they're made out of beef it would be beef sticks if they're made out of venison venison sticks yeah no well actually what's funny is we we almost call all of them beef sticks, even if they're not. That's just another case of American exceptionalism. You guys are just like, you're wrong. No, this is literally what we call them

up here. I'm not wrong. This is what we call them. I don't hate it, but it doesn't make sense because there's no peppers in them. You better be peppering your meat sticks yeah like oh black pepper yeah yeah sure i was thinking like jalapenos or something well if you want that would be good yeah we didn't we normally make them hot up here yeah so chippers was the uh chippers

oh man i want to say it's i mean like obviously it'd be like oh it's a type of chip but that's that'd be giving it away so like yeah it's food for sure but i have no clue i'm not gonna go venture i guess i'm gonna say something caffeinated i don't think it is but that'd be kind of cool if it was because then we'd like you know it chips you up but i i don't know i'm like let us all know what it is i'm lost they're chocolate. Oh, fuck. I'd destroy those. Oh, my God. I need a bag of those. Yeah, they're incredible.

They're incredible. Oh, I love that mixture. Oh, man. Up here at Costco, we just got the Reese's peanut butter-dipped animal crackers. Oh. Oh, I haven't tried those yet. Are they good? No, the calories are just ridiculous like

you eat one and you're you're done your macros for the day but they're they're pretty amazing so we do have those up here but i don't think we've ever called them chippers are they actually labeled so or is the bag actually say chippers or is it just lingo and like a bunch of different brands make them and just call them chocolate like it's only small it's only like small like a small chocolate confectionery small small local confectioneries that make them yeah there's not as far as i know there aren't any uh big nationwide brands that make them so is it a ruffle like basically like a ruffle style chip or a ruffle yeah ruffle yeah yeah because like chocolate covered pretzels are amazing so like a chocolate covered ruffle chip

would be pretty fucking amazing. I think like that sounds. Yeah. I debate. I debate the pretzel part. But he does not like pretzels. What? Chocolate covered potato chips.

Fantastic. And is it like is it is it like cocoa dusted or are they like like like dipped in chocolate? We're talking. Yeah. Yeah. So like a one handful is like 2 000 calories oh yeah probably you're not eating more than like two or three at a time you've just been this isn't this isn't a snack it's a dessert okay yeah it's a candy we need someone to sponsor the podcast and get us

a bag of those that sounds pretty damn good yeah i we actually we actually thought about bringing some to the lift hard live easy butZ, but it would be like, we'd have to bring so many for everybody to like have a try, you know, and they would have melted. It would have been a bunch of chocolate at the bottom of a bag of chips. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. So, but, but at some point and Chris Duffin also loves them. The, they brought a box of chippers to like event, and he just housed them all. Yeah.

I can get them up here, actually. I got to show them that. Yeah, absolutely. You could probably call them decals. So that's probably the pride of North Dakota. That's good stuff. Maybe other than Dots Pretzels, which came from a very small town, Velvet, North Dakota, if you've ever had those.

That's the other cool North Dakota product. Yeah, Dots Pretzels is huge. They got bought out by Hershey's. I know of those, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this lady at this tiny town in North Dakota sold her company for like- $1.2 billion.

Yeah, $1.2 billion to Hershey's. Wow..2 billion. Yeah. 1.2 billion. Wow. Yeah. Now granted, like she had, she had seed money and stuff like that for production. So it wasn't just her, but she most likely got a good portion of that. And it was just like a later,

I mean, she's a later in life lady that had an awesome recipe and she has like an awesome family and stuff like that. I have friends that know the family personally, so that's pretty cool. Good for her. All right. Well, if that's it, I think Keith, you want to round this out? Yep.

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So Matt sent his regards today and in light of being here, he actually sent me a joke. Oh. So, I have a joke for you guys. What is a pirate's

favorite letter? R. R. You would think it'd be R, but it'd be the C. Oh! So thank you, Big Matt, for finally showing up to the podcast.

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Blake? Yeah. He works in the basement of one of our gyms. Actually. Love it. With no windows. Got it. There's very little light.

I hope he doesn't hear this and hate me. Beyond that, don't forget to join the Barefoot Discord. A lot of great help there. A lot of great support, especially if you've got customer service questions. Mal has been amazing at answering anything that we have. There's also a lot of giveaways in the Discord.

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buddy? Yep. Big Keith, Keith Honeycutt, 73 on Instagram. Go follow my orange gym, the no wine seller, and we'll see you next Tuesday.