Unpaid And Underrated - 072 : Friction Coefficient

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

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And welcome back to episode 1776. I'm one of your hosts, Big Keith, joined as, oh god, I fucked that up so bad. Nope, redo, mulligan. You know Nate's not gonna let that fly. That's going in the podcast. Welcome back to episode 1776 of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your hosts, Big Keith, joined as always by here, Big Joey. Hey. And special guest crew this week, we got Big George Green. Hello. Welcome to the podcast, my friend.

What are you drinking over there, George? I got a Yingling traditional lager in my Lift Hard Live Easy Koozie. Very nice. I do like a good Yingling. I haven't had one in several years, but they are tasty. It's a good classic. I've been calling them Yingling, so

hey, what do I know? You say a lot of shit. Yep. Yep. Oh. Yep. Mm-hmm. Oh. Hey, Tanner. Yep.

No, you're good. I got to grab a Keats in a second. I'm so tired. I'm going to smack pneumonia. Papa's in. We'll get this going, guys. So we had in our sub channel for the Massanomics Fantasy Football League, Tanner had posted something, basically just like a meme saying just

going to stand here and admire the view because he was still at the top of the mountain but admire is spelled a S M I R E and I don't know if that's like a word or not and my response to it was that's probably how Joey would pronounce it so they get a

couple good good, good, good, good laughs at that. But I didn't know, like, is that like a fancy way to spell admire? No, it's just that D is close to the S on the keyboard.

Oh, I suppose. But it's not like something he typed. It's like, it's like a, it's a, a, you know,

a meme, I guess. All right. Um, anyway, that was, that kind of fell flat. So, uh, just like my, It's like a meme, I guess. Anyway, that kind of fell flat. So just like my sparkling water this week, same as always, just a Wegmans orange this week. Nothing special. It's pretty tasty, though, so can't go wrong. Did anybody, George, what are you wearing over this week, buddy?

You've got a whole little wardrobe going. Oh, yeah, I got the whole wardrobe. So I got my Mastodon mix truck cap on. I got the lifting department tee. And off camera, I got the squat shorts on. So I got the whole ensemble today. Nice. Those are good ones. I didn't realize how every now and then I,

I'll throw those on, um, and not wear like compression underwear. I'll just wear them with my regular underwear. And I realized I watched my videos back last night and my, my boxer briefs were hanging out like three inches past them. And I was like, Oh, I can't do that anymore. I gotta, I guess I'll never wear those after work without like actually putting on different underwear. Cause I just looked so goofy in the video. Oh, I'm also wearing my squad shorts. Um um and what was so confusing there was the idea that you said every once in a while you put them on i i don't i try not to wear anything else lately and i've actually got my uh pursuit of strength shirt on uh with the weight loss recently some of my smaller shirts are fitting again so nice. We are living in the wardrobe.

Yep. King of the castle. King of the castle. Oh, no wardrobe. I'm not there yet with my weight loss, but maybe someday I'll get back into my excels. For now, I'm rocking out the lift shirt. The OG. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a good one. Did anybody get a chance to take advantage of the 50 off sale today yeah didn't need anything had everything actually i was just looking at uh some of those hoodies a while back it's like oh cool they're on sale and then uh there was only one left by the time i caught it and it was a size smaller than what I wanted. So yeah, I was able to pick up a, uh,

with the, uh, the camouflage hoodie. Um, last minute. So that was actually, I was so nervous when I bought it, I ended up ordering the wrong size and then I texted Katana real quick.

And like, I didn't like say, Hey, can you switch it? It was just more of like, ah, I fucked up and then like hoping he could fix it. And,

but if he didn't like, that's fine too. Uh, but he just had to take care of it so hopefully the a 2x comes but if an xl comes that that's on me for it or in the wrong one so can't be anybody can't be mad at anybody but myself i'm excited for the news that new sticker that's coming with it they run small anyway if i they do yeah i i put the order in and then I went and tried on my current one that I own because I own the, I think the pursuit of the pursuit of strength one. And it is two X and it fits perfect. So it's like, there's no way a fucking XL would be comfortable. So yeah, I've got the OG lift one, the blue one,

the massomics one that I had the first time they put the patch on a hoodie and I put it on the other day and I was just like, this doesn't even go to my wrists. And it was like, Hey, you're going to say something. Oh yeah. I was just like this doesn't even go to my wrists and it was like anyway you're gonna say something oh yeah i was just i was sitting there eyeballing the the medium thinking like hey you know i could like maybe wear a medium dependent on the size but if they sit that small yeah it'd be tight yeah i like my hoodies baggy yep yeah you'd be better off with a larger extra large honestly um so i'm not sure if anybody caught

on the discord and murph had posted a uh a pretty intriguing question um essentially asking uh what are some past what are some past weights that you used to consider a milestone uh in your in your lifting like something that maybe was a pr or something you could hardly ever hit and now it's just like you know it's like now it's just like picking up the you know the the morning paper uh anything stick out to either of you that it's just like you know a few years ago or several years ago it was just like this huge achievement and now it's just like literally you know your last warm-up or something george is watching me do a hit of ammonia here oh let's go like i've had like three snit like i'm gonna sniff this thing into oblivion after not mix it up with my zen

oh yeah that's dangerous oh that would put their i got their pouches mixed up yeah burns a little bit more than i'm used to yeah definitely a level 69 right there on the yeah

yeah i think i commented on it and just like every time juggernaut tells me to do 405 for anything like anytime it's like just do do some reps of four plates i'm just like i don't what if today's the day i can't do that anymore right like that's that's the thinking in the brain and you're like just you just gotta try man and then it goes up and you're fine um but yeah i would say that that's definitely that one for me nice yeah i think i think for me is probably the the 405 squat like i remember the first time i watched a guy do that in the gym i'd never seen it before and there was this guy he looked like someone you just like ripped right out of a comic book like chiseled jawline dude was huge just fired up and i see this guy throwing

that on the bar i'm like oh that must be like what strong people lift so like in my brain for years that was like the the goal was to be able to squat four plates and and then i got to that uh about a year ago and now i'm like i need more the pursuit of strength that never ends yeah it's like like i kept telling myself for years like yeah that's that's the goal i'll be happy when i hit that number and then afterwards i was like oh shit i did that i think the first time i said i would deadlift 365 and stop i was like my body weight you know 160 pounds i think if i could do 365 i think that that's about where i would say i'm done like deadlifting and yeah i did like 470 like two years later like yeah for me i i wish it was

deadlifter squat um but i wouldn't say my numbers have plateaued but they basically plateaued like like i'm fighting like i i have i'd have to peak really, really hard to hit my squat PR, to match PRs on squat and deadlift, basically. But my bench, I say my first meaningful PR on bench was 250. And I think I did that 10 years ago. And it took me a long time. And now I think my PR rep, I think I done 250 for, like I said, a five on bench or something. So that's just cool. And then overhead press more recently like i didn't train overhead press for years except

maybe like once a month and i was like i think my pr and overhead press was like 135 a few years ago or like maybe maybe not a pr but like like an rp like eight and a half nine working set um or like top single and now i can i think i can do 135 for like six or seven reps. So at that one, I'm thinking I'm the most proud of, um, today. Um, my boss actually was like, I, you know, he was, uh, he doesn't really, we're not friends on social media or anything. And only very seldom talk about like shit outside of work. But he was like, you know, a first, he asked me if I was losing weight and I was like, yeah, I'm down like seven or eight pounds.

And then he was like, are you training shoulders a lot more? Cause your fucking back's getting jacked or like your upper, upper back. And I was like, yes, I have actually the past six months i've done exclusively fucking overhead pressing basically yeah so it was really cool to like have a blind person kind of like spot that out and i was like yes i haven't done overhead press in like a year i think i think the first time i hit body weight on overhead press i was just like yeah which is nothing it's like 150 pounds or 160 pounds and then i just didn't do it again so i've been enjoying it having a big back and big shoulders is where it's at i don't know what all these people are talking

about where they're just like oh big biceps like you're at a you're at a zoom call or a team's call with your work and you're just standing there like that and your just shoulders are massive and you're just like your traps are sticking up and everybody's just like little tiny guys. I think it's hilarious because it's the only way you really look big. Big biceps look good, but you don't look big. Hi, Morgan.

Hello. Everybody said hi. It's so hot in here. She brought me an ice water. I've got a weird take on the aesthetics of what looks good being the biggest. I've got a weird take on the aesthetics of what looks good being the biggest. I think having a big dump truck is where it's at.

I don't know why, but it's just like, oh yeah, that guy squats. Well, I would say having big posterior in general. Yeah. My hamstrings are fucking jacked.

Like, if I got a good leg pump going, my hamstrings stick out like insane, but my butt really doesn't. But I do think Mike Van Wick calling people with big butts and no hamstrings seagulls is one of the funniest things I ever heard. Like, you're walking around look like fucking seagulls mine mine and i thought that was really funny because they do like with their butt implants or they i literally saw a reel about that essentially like it was a uh it was a wedding rehearsal or a wedding so it was like the the um the the bridesmaids and then the uh the the groomsmen they were doing like the photos and like the two on the end was it was a girl with uh you know what looked like a brazilian butt lift because their butt literally stuck out like eight inches past her like physique and the guy like didn't really want

to get he was supposed to like they kept saying like get in closer so get everybody in frame and he's just like awkwardly like trying not to touch her huge butt but then his upper like but then like her back and his like torso are like seven eight inches apart still and it was just it was a very uh it it was just funny that I happened to see that exact video that they were talking about. Big butts are where it's at. Yeah. Big dumpies. You put in this thing about Chris Duffin. What's up?

I only have so many details about it, but Kabuki sold in general a while ago. And Duffin, I don't know how much he owned of it to begin with. I know him and the guy Rudy were like part owners, I believe. And Rudy sold his portion, assuming I guess Chris must have sold his too, because Chris was let go beginning of the week, I believe. You know, he's basically Chris Duffin is no longer associated with Kabuki in any capacity when everyone kind of thought he owned the company the last several years. So I don't know. I don't know how much he did own or what kind of payday he got or, you know, if he got a huge check and they kept him on as like the face and then decided to, you know, cut ties. But Kabuki is moving from Portland and I think they're setting up in, I don't know if it's upstate or not, but they are going to start manufacturing out of South Carolina.

We just called them buyers there. Yeah, I think I mentioned it in the Discord too. Like, you know, you look at our episode with Barefoot where everybody thought, and even in the ad read, they say Chris Duffin founded Barefoot. But like, if you listen to our episode, he didn't. Yeah. Right. Blake and Ryan founded it and then asked him to be a part of it. And then he became the face.

And like, I just wonder how often that happens. Right. Like Chris Duffin is, of course, an amazing dude. Love his story. Love the guy. But, you know, when somebody's just the face of something you have to wonder how much stake they really had in it so I think Chris will be

fine though Chris will be fine yeah I'll figure something out let's see you guys want to rate last week's episode massonomics podcast someone have to remind me real quick what the heck it was because I didn't write it down that was the too many too many power yeah that's a good one that's a fun one

yeah how many all right just let's start how many powerlifting federations have you guys competed in i'm at two oh god i've done uh so wmpf not wmpf it's it's it's it's basically it's out it's in florida and ohio and Ohio and the Ohio director drives to New York to put meets on too. So I did my force for her first four meets there. I did a bunch of USPA meets. I've done USAPL meets and I guess one XPC meet. And then,

you know, you know, maybe whatever Dave does in a couple of years, if I don't, don't get invited to do strong, man, George. Uh, I've only done two. So I got XPC, uh, in a couple years if I don't get invited to do Strongman. George?

I've only done two, so I got XPC, Lift Hard, Live Easy, and then USAPL. Alright, so like, genuine question. What's the difference? Like, I would actually have loved to have been on that episode, because, you know, remember the first XPC

one with the big Fuck the feds flag. And I was just like, yeah, like outlaw country and powerlifting meet. And, um, you know, like I've been in unsanctioned meets.

I've been in a WRPF and XPC opposite ends of the country, been to the Arnold watching things. And it's just like, it's just a matter of like these little tiny rules that they change like sometimes you have to have specific shoes and sometimes you don't sometimes you need this belt and sometimes you don't and it's just i actually really firmly agree with tanner and tommy it doesn't fucking matter like thanks if you got a good i'm gonna do whatever dave does i'm with them on that one. Cause I like Dave's meats, you know,

the, the, where I go here, apex, uh, gym, shut out Burlington. Um,

I like them, whatever meat they're running. I'm going to do because I like the people that do the meat there. Right. So honestly, I just, I like the idea of open power lifting, just being like,

just, just take it over just just take it over just take it over you do it and it'll be easier for everybody the hard part with that would be like you've tested and untested like if you just did that solely for untested meats and let every you know juicy guy on a extremely whippy deadlift bar sure but you kind of were taken away from people that are testing that are competing clean and on the same bar across the board like this it's apples and oranges i know it's it's not that big of a difference but it really is like i i would say i would say yeah i kind of see what you're saying

but at the same time like i don't know i just think that there's there's it'll never be once bureaucracy and red tape gets involved i I'm usually half checked out. Like when you, I lifted, I'm a mediocre intermediate lifter. You're not, I'm not pissing in any cups anytime soon. Cause I'm not setting any world records. Like I don't,

a lot of that's random. Cause I had to, I had to do, I had to do a piss test and it was just completely random. Like some federations will piss test like the, the top five percent. And then like when i did a usa pl my it was it was just my buddy was like yeah we gotta go piss in a cup i was like

cool let's do it yeah yeah like uh kind of what they were saying about you know not so much the federation really mattering as much as like the individual meat directors yeah you know just for my limited experience like you know seeing what makes a meat it's not like you know whoever's banner they have in the background that's kind of like you know making it legitimate it's whoever's there like running the show and putting on the good meat so if you so if you had to get that uh that episode of rating george what do you think it'd be oh i give a five out of five ipod touches there you go there you go and uh i guess subconsciously i don't know if it was related it had to be

related so this week i uh so i've had a uspa banner that i took off my wall maybe like two years ago when all that shit came out about the pedo stuff and the shitty fucking you know no it's literally joe joe just give me a what the fuck? But I just, I just came back. No. When, when USPA was under all that scrutiny, when goop was attacking him a couple of years ago. So because of that, like I didn't want that banner behind my deadlift platform for like,

it had been there for years. And because like one of my good, like a friend up guy that I've come to become friends with, like runs the USPA meets and, you know, upstate New York. But I was just like, yeah, I'm not going to rock that banner anymore.

So it's just been folded up or it's been rolled up in my ceiling on, on the duck work for the past like three years probably. And one of my other buddies who's hosting a USPA meet at his gym in Rochester, I think next weekend, I, I randomly texted him. I was like, do you want this banner for the meet? Like you can have it for the gym. You just, just come pick it up whenever. And I think subconsciously I had to have been because of their. You just come pick it up whenever. I think subconsciously, I had

to have been because of their... I'm curious if it was because of their podcast. I think I talked to him maybe Tuesday or Wednesday and would have listened to the podcast on Monday. That's funny. I guess they are influencing the influencers over there on their podcast as well, it seems

like. For that little story, I guess I'll go ahead and give it a five out of five, you know, bad Powered Confederation banners. Good chat. I actually disappeared there because that water was tasting bland. So I added some creatine and some electrolytes to it. That's not how you say that. You always call it. What? You definitely don't say creatine. That's not how you say that. You always call it.

You definitely don't say creatine. You always say creaton or something. Literally never. I say creatine. I always have. Oh, who is it? I swear. This is a reminder to take your creatine.

Oh, I swear you say it different. I've never said it. Like now I want to go and check all the transcripts. Or creaton. I feel like you're saying it to fuck with me. Now you're fucking with me saying you don't say it like that. Absolutely not. That's not something I would do, Keith. The Davids are going to make fun of you.

But don't explain it to each other. If you can fucking tell me what to say or not. I explained one of the Davids jokes to the other David today on Discord. I was pretty happy with that. George, what was your rating of the episode? Five out of five iPod touches. iPod touches are... I'm going to go five out of five scoops of creatine and make sure

you take your creatine. This is your reminder. What is it again? Creatine. That's not how you... Oh my god. I swear to god, you've said it so many different... Oh, I swear to god, you've said it differently on the past. This is like the Mandela. Yeah, this is the Mandela many different Oh, I swear to God, you've said it differently on the past This is like the Mandela Yeah, this is the Mandela effect Like he's, no man

Creaton No, it's not that, but Is it like a bike you ride and somebody yells at you while you ride it? I can't even recreate how you say it But it's You're just fucking, you have like a whole list of shit to fuck with me with So I It's like I have a separate Google doc i'm shit to say funny sometimes

so i uh i signed up for my next powerlifting meet in march next year um and a lot of people are like why the fuck would you sign up for a meet like nine months but i thought i don't know what it was like it's only six months away honestly but uh those meets have sold out like i've missed like you know being able to do a local meat before. Cause I waited until like two months out, three months out and it was like, you know, fucking sold out already. So I was like, whatever, you know, throw a, throw a hundred dollars as a placeholder. And if, you know, if things don't work out, it's just whatever I just eat it. Um, but I, in a perfect world, I'll do that meat and March and then a strong man show and lift hard, live easy. Easy. But if I end up having to do powerlifting at Lift Hard, I'll

reconsider doing a powerlifting in March and maybe just not, but ideally there's a spot for me in the strongman show. Yep, never competing again. I think I'm retired actually. Yeah. Maybe, like something might get me really amped to do, but

for now we're just going to stay strong. Get strong and stay strong and just use my strength in my daily life yeah there you go i don't know what it is i just i don't want to i think the feds kind of ruin it for me strong man i just don't feel strong enough anymore i'm so tired was there any chatter with any of your local gyms going away from wrpf as well or it's kind of a different sect than like american wr yeah so andrew is the w the ontario um wrpf guy i haven't actually had a chance to talk to him sometimes he's at my workplace between him and the owner of the gym i usually compete in and i suppose i should just reach out and be like what are we doing but i i it probably isn't changing at all because they have so many i think they have two set up this year already um the next one's october if i'm available i'll be there to volunteer again because i like i'm

still going to give back to the strength community i still think me announcing was really fun and it was kind of a shame that nobody got to hear that on the live stream because like me announcing, I think I have some ideas for how to announce powerlifting meets. Because one of the things I did differently was explain the rules in between. And I think maybe, you know, having a little bit of a show with an empty bar and be like, this is your first powerlifting meet. Here's what you're going to be looking for. Like get the crowd engaged. So the crowd can kind of help judge. And like, so they see it, they could like, I like that idea.

Cause that's what I was doing. Right. Like, you know, I, I would say, um, you know, the, the weight is up, but what do the judges say? Two reds. And then I would say judges, why? And the judges would, they would motion to me and i would tell the crowd two red lights for hitching or whatever and and like i think that kind of helps the crowd kind of understand

what's happening does i feel and and then yeah somebody i got a lot of compliments like random strangers came up and they were just like you're really good at that you should keep doing that because like i know my kid does this and i'm here to watch my kid, but I have no clue what's happening. And, you know, I kind of want to do that a little more. I think that that was really fun. So I'll definitely be doing that. But as far as actually like lifting again, I don't know. I'm going to start my own federation.

Remember? Yeah. The Pee Poo, the power lifting, extremely expensive power operations, open power lifting. Yeah. It's going to be Pee Poo. It's going to be great that does have me thinking back of like of all the meets i've gone to or competed in and like the variety of either no commentator shitty commentator or amazing commentator and it's been kind of all

between everything in between like wmpf literally they were lucky if they even fucking had a venue let alone a commentator, uh, USPA, uh, at least, you know, and this is all specific to like your meat director. It's not going to like, whatever I say about it, isn't going to dictate from every single meat, uh, you know, uh, across the board under that banner. But, uh, the USPA, it kind of would bounce back and forth between the meat director, uh, if he, if, if he couldn't get a DJ basically, uh, or, um, you know, a, a can can but then one of my other buddies actually does do the do the commentary and if he's if he's available and then

usa pl not the best here locally as far as common commentary um then dave was you know out in xpc was a year one dave did most of it and then tanner hopped on a bit and then the kid the the the cowboy from the uh the the minnesota department of lifting team that stepped in he literally like saved that meet as far as not having to bug like when dave doesn't have to be on the microphone it's probably a lot easier to help like be available for other shit so like that was that was that was pretty clutch yeah it was i mean i also got to dj a little bit at the last meet and i regret not playing sandstorm 15 times i think that that's definitely what it just over and over and see how like how many times I can play it until people click in.

That would be great. Anyway. Oh, I didn't rate it. I'm going to give that episode 5 out of 5 defunct powerlifting federations. There you go. George, before we get into your ad reads, is there anything else from the lifting world or mass dynamics world that

we missed that you want to touch base on? Always, you know i i think uh from my experience like we've had some pretty good meat directors here so it's kind of cool when you have like a local meat director that runs us apl or something really great they got a good following they've done it a while and you can kind of see those uh you know all those years of doing it really kind of come together in a nice meet where they got like a good mc and all that kind of stuff so i think it's cool i've been pretty lucky with my limited experience where i haven't had any duds of meat so far but i don't know we'll see how that

goes there's always the next one because there's always the next one to suck dumb dumb dumb dumb fuck dumb question here sorry what the fuck is the what is the acronym mc stand for master of ceremonies is it okay that makes sense i think i knew that now that you said yeah and it makes more sense good deal sorry had to i show my show show my ignorance to piss off jen you know at least once tonight i'm actually very happy i had that answer that quickly that's the creatine shot right you guys heard that uh they did that experiment on creatine right that um they gave people like a super dose of it and then tested them and they got answers faster like apparently it very quickly um not triggers but limitless drug yeah like it it triggers or at least uh expands your neurological capabilities very quickly so nice anyway next time i got an exam i'm going to be sitting there with a shaker cup yeah just a dose of creatine

creatine it's like don't worry about it's not's like, don't worry about it. That's not how you say it. Don't worry about it. Just don't test me after. All right. Do you want to do your ad read? Yeah, let's do it. This podcast is brought to you by Massonomics. Is lifting and drinking all that you know?

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that powerlifting has to offer. Nice. Well done. Yeah, the bathrooms update. We're going to hear a lot about that tonight because they decided

to record at the same time as us. Yeah, yeah. We might actually catch the tail end of it. We'll see. No, buddy.

When we're done here, I'm going right to bed. Yeah, yeah. I guess right to bed for us to get to get on with that we better get onto the podcast which means we got to kick all these looky loos off and uh try to get that guest on the horn what do you say what do you say all right uh done and done big george is that you i'm here it's me nice to see you again nice to see you again we hung out a little bit a little bit uh at the hard live easy um it was always hard to to hang out with everybody but i know i got to to see a little bit

there um yeah nothing like hanging out in the fire pits out at the oh out of the uh hotel there getting the fire pit to work who finally got that to work? Was it Jen or it was one of the gens or was it Murph? I think it was Murph or at least somebody like I was just like, this thing doesn't fucking work. At that point, we had to prop the door open, if you remember. Yeah, we had to share the locks were broken. I just think it was the hotel attendant because they were all courteous and, you know, extremely efficient and did anything we asked him to do.

Wrong. The doors didn't work. The entire that entire side. I wrong the doors didn't work the entire that entire side i know the logs didn't work so i had that was one of the things i had to go complain about and she was just like your card is broken and i was like my fucking card's not broken nobody's card works and i was like i'm gonna prop the door open and she's like don't do that the alarm will go off and scans was like fuck your alarm fix the. And scans ended up jamming a chair in there. And I went out there and I was like,

the fire pit doesn't work. And she's like, I don't know anything about the fire pit. And then we came out and I think, yeah, Murph, Jen or, or scar ended up getting it to work.

Somebody, somebody smarter than me got it to work. It's a big list. At that time, it was a big list. After 17 trips to BWs with matt to get drunk yeah yeah oh well let's let's uh let's go ahead and get this interview kicked off here big george so uh you know the number one question what brought you to mass anomalies how'd you find us when'd you find us why are you here all that good juicy stuff yeah so uh so actually I was brought here by another crew member

converted or brought into the cult, you might say. One of my I was just hanging out at work one day and a fellow crew member had his laptop out. You guys might know him by the name of Big Kurt. I saw a little sticker on there.

My eyeball was attracted to this Don't Curl In Me sticker he had on his laptop. And I was like, what the hell is that? That thing's badass. And all of a sudden, he kind of looks up and he gets a twinkle in his eye. He's like, I've been waiting all year to tell someone this story. Have you ever heard of this little town called Aberdeen, South Dakota? And I was like, yeah. Yeah, I've been there before. called Aberdeen, South Dakota? And I was like,

yeah, yeah, I've been there before. And he's like, what? Like, yeah, dude, I lived like, you know, right across the state in rapid city. Like I've been there multiple times. He's like, oh, well anyway. Yeah. That's where I got this sticker from. It's like a lifting podcast about nothing. Uh, and then, uh, hopped on the merch store, saw some of the merch, uh, picked some up almost immediately. Started to listening to the podcast, became a crew member a couple months later. That was like right about the time I moved to Ohio, which I didn't really know much about powerlifting or anything like that,

just kind of stumbled into it. And then once I started getting more curious about it, realized that, hey, Ohio is like a pretty good place for the strength world. It's given that there's like powerlifting meets everywhere around here. So I got goaded into competing right about the time that I think Tanner and Tommy did that episode on, you know, when should you do your first meet or whatever? And I was like, oh, that's cool. Like, I just signed up for my first meet. Like, let's go.

They're talking to me. Yeah. I'm like, oh, I'm the target audience here. Let's go. It was just a nice little victim of circumstances there. Kind of stumble into it at the right time. So that answers the next question. You're located in Ohio right now. Yep. But you're from Rapid City. Yeah, I lived in rapid city for about five years and then uh work brought me to springfield ohio which uh you know it's been

kind of interesting with everything going on lately without oh yeah really like so i got a lot of i got a lot of people you know not to get like too crazy but a lot of people are just like what what the hell's going on there? Yeah, like directly reaching out to you. What the? Yeah, so that's fun. Yeah. But I had no idea what the Arnold was until I realized I was like 45 minutes away from the convention center there.

So I could just like drive down there and be like, oh, cool. And be home like within an hour. So that must be nice. Okay. Yeah. All right. So am I a dick? Did I see you at the Arnold this year?

Uh, I don't know. I don't like, I kind of don't think I did. Probably not. I, yeah, I,

I kind of been floating around. I was hanging out with my buddy Kurt there. Uh, he was like, Hey dude, I'm going to the arnold i can pick you up on the way there your house is literally on the way i was like okay cool and then we hung out there for a little bit went to the wonderful huberts um polish sausage oh man the pierogies there holy shit those were good i love some pierogies they know pancakes all of us we're gonna do that next year as far as a as far as a timeline you're you're you're under a year then or is this this is arnold last year is this arnold 2024 like when do you think you joined or started listening so i started listening oh about two summers ago became a crew member about two years ago now

gotcha yeah and then uh didn't go to the arnold i think i had like some work stuff like the first year i was here for it and i was like oh shit i don't really have an excuse not to go so um went last year that was my first time at the arnold meeting tanner tommy and some of the other crew members there nice and you you you met a handful of us at home gym con too this year yeah yeah also live pretty close to Lake. I think that's like three hours from my house. Oh, I'm jealous. Yeah. So one of the guys I work with, uh, big Kurt, you know, he was, uh, the director from the, for the, uh, first, uh, strong man throw down that they're doing at home gym con. And he was like, Hey dude, I know you're a power lif lifter but you want to help me throw a strongman show together and i was like yeah cool like i don't know shit about strongman

but i'll like put numbers in the computer for you and dj i guess so there you go are you uh are you signed up to help him again next year you're thinking you're gonna throw your hat well you gotta you gotta try to do a strongman show between now and then, maybe. After watching the throwdown and the one at the Lift Hard Live Easy Part 2, I'm like, man, this strongman shit seems pretty fun. It is. And I know a guy right down the road that has a shitload of strongman equipment. So I don't really have a whole lot of excuses not to try it out. No, it's definitely fun, man. I will always implore people to try it you know even if you

don't ever compete like just add a couple new things to your arsenal for training it's like oh yeah but they have they have an axle and a log let me go fuck around with those farmers carries like just variety i'm learning in my old age that variety is actually not the worst thing in the world i guess just pick up rocks just pick up rocks go down to the creek and be like there's a big rock i'm gonna pick that up i did listen to uh they listened to a whole podcast about like lifting stones and stuff um vintage wage robin interviewed a dude like it's his whole you know schick is like picking up rocks and stuff so that was kind of interesting to go over in ireland and like they'll like they'll like tag them on google maps and stuff so like the same like people can go find them and shit so it's kind of neat there's a map of of the states of big rocks uh because you can register

your rocks uh mine isn't registered because it's only like 108 pounds and i i remember thinking like oh this rock is heavy and like having some trouble with it and then steve came over and lifted it and then i was like wait is it not that heavy and then i just started throwing it around like it was nothing and i was like so it's it's not. So I need a bigger rock. So what's your Hall of Fame status after a couple of years there? So right now I'm at nine. Does this get you 10 or is this nine? So this will be number nine right here.

So really it's just time missing a couple there just as far as crew member time. And then don't have any band merch that's something I was kind of kicking myself for not getting in like that would have been easy enough to pick it up the Arnold especially today with the shorts yeah yeah so were the shorts the yes shorts were the old logo or the new logo yeah Tanner pointed out he said by the way the shorts that are on 50% of the old logo. So today, gotcha. Oh shit.

A lot of people's chance to get a band logo. I'm going to hop on that train real quick. So yeah, stand by. We'll talk amongst yourselves. I'm pretty much shopping to do. I'll have to get some shorts here pretty quick. Even if they don't fit,

I'll make them work. Just cut them into silkies. Yeah. Well, yeah, just a couple of things there. Just just kind of waiting on like time haven't gone through the backlog yet um so yeah you don't need to yeah it's there's some there's there's some hard ones my my buddy um kim from barbell rescue said he i think he's like i'm not i'm not sure if he's actually listening to the up-to-date episodes because he's just like he says on episode 40 so i'm not sure if he's actually listening to the up-to-date episodes because he says he's doing episode 40. So I'm not sure if he's doing both simultaneously or not. I kind of made the joke about, you know,

Masonomics quote is, don't start with episode one. I'm sure Joey can enjoy that one. Yeah, start at about episode 220. There you go. I think we should put that. That should be the backlog start at 220 and go um well george and in case no one caught it uh what what's your name and where are they going to find you on instagram yeah so uh george green uh pretty sure i'm the

only george on the in the crew but uh you can find me on Instagram at thepieguy70. No story behind the name. It's not a pizza thing? You're not like... My hat is like a gamer tag like a gazillion years ago when I was a kid. Just kind of kept using it, stuck around to try to maintain consistency

with usernames. I've stuck with it haunted by the ghosts of my past well speaking of something that you're not stuck with what's one piece of mass economics merch that you wish you had got before it went out of went out of stock uh probably the uh buddy light shirts like yeah that's a popular answer yeah passed over them a few times and then really wanted them after i heard about the whole ronnie coleman incident i was like oh man so i'm hoping like maybe someday i'll be out like geocaching or something and then i'll just like unearth all

the ones that tanner buried somewhere like oh look i i found the lost the last buddy light shirts it's like the et the nintendo et games yeah yeah something like that you know like oh there they are here's the cursed merchandise so it's good stuff i'm curious what kind of stock we're gonna like is it i feel like you know they they they purge their you know their their all their stuff once you i feel like this is the second or third 50 off sale i've been a part of or seen so uh you know and i'm assuming it's going to be followed by like you know new inventory new completely new stuff like we're not just going to get you know the same the same stuff again you would think i'm curious if we're actually going to get new new stuff or they're going to

release if they're going to go back into the vault for some you know some some classics i'm curious what we're going to see over the next few months. Nothing beats new, new stuff. Yeah. That's what my, that's what my daughter calls noodles. So when you say new, new, all I can think of is her saying daddy, daddy,

more new news. Sure, buddy. All right. Um, do you want to start with the least fun? Most fun? No,

we're good. Perfect time. So George, I got, uh, I'm not sure if you're familiar with this is new, new game we play. It's called least fun, most fun. So I'm going to, I'm going to pick up a topic. Yes, you're familiar with this new game we play it's called least fun most fun so I'm going to pick a topic

it is a new game did I say new new I can't remember that's a great game you inundated my brain okay so least fun most fun just tell me you know in your own words what the best part and the worst part essentially is about this

thing so I'm going to go with having a caterpillar mustache what do you think least fun most fun you know, in, in your own words, what the best part and the worst part essentially is about this thing. So I'm going to go with having a Caterpillar mustache. What do you think? Least fun, most fun. Uh, I think the least fun part of it is just like every now and then I'll get like a mustache hair that just happens to like wander up my nose.

It's the worst. And it is, it's just the weirdest sensation. Uh, so I'd probably say that's the least fun but the most fun is like when you're just walking around at like a random bar or whatever and then you get like some random dude that's like dude that's a killer mustache like uh like you know uh calling back to the arnold like i was uh just coming back from hubert's and i was walking back into the convention center and as right as i'm getting up to the Arnold, like I was just coming back from Hubert's and I was walking back into the convention center

and right as I'm getting up to the doors, Huck Finn Barbell walks out and he looks at me and he's like, oh, that mustache. There's no fucking way that thing's real. I was like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you, man, because I think he was growing his out too. And I

was like, man, I got a better stash than Huck Finn over here. And he's like, get over here. Let's get a fucking picture. It's like, all right, that's,

that's fucking cool. So that is pretty cool. I, uh, if I remember when I had a mustache and before I had a beard, there's, I'm going to let people in on a bit of a mustache secret. So George,

if we have to cut this piece, let me know. Yeah. It's the nod. do you ever get the mustache nod yep yep yeah the mustache nod you you've got a good mustache mine used to curl right so like i had like the full-on and people would just walk by and if they had a mustache and they didn't want to talk to you they would just give you the and you go and you would just go about your day but like it was that connection that moment for a second that we are two mustachioed dudes giving each other the nod it's like the next

level of the bro nod yeah yeah it's the mustache nod yep also i do appreciate that everybody's impression of huck finn is essentially i think i've said this before Keith, have you seen Man on the Moon starring Jim Carrey? Yes. Do you remember Tony Clifton? Which was 20 years since I've seen it. It was Andy's

alter ego. Everybody's impression of Huck Finn sounds like Tony Clifton. Rawr! Rawr! Rawr! Rawr! Come here, brother! Rawr! Tanner does it, and George just did it. It's like, I've got a fucking picture! Rawr! Okay, bye. Okay, bye.

I am happy for Huck. He met his childhood hero a couple hours ago uh him and hogan uh hulk hogan met i guess he's he's gonna help us like um you know just be a sponsor or just i don't know i don't even know if he's an affiliated or not but i guess hulk or hulk hogan has a beer um great american beer american beer yep yeah and uh hogan went out to like a meeting or huck finn went out to a meet and greet with him and had a little real,

they posted. Well, that's awesome. I'll take a look for that. Um, he's been doing a lot of, um, roasting of Joey Swole.

Yeah. And I, I commented on that the other day. I was like, or I think it was today or yesterday. I'm going to get wrong again, Joey. I want that on this podcast.

He just slaps his glasses. He goes wrong again, Joey. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to clip that and I'm going to put it on this podcast. He just slaps his glasses. He goes, wrong again, Joey. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to clip that and I'm going to put it in our podcast. I'm going to try to pull that out later when I don't agree with something. Exactly. That's the perfect reason for it. Whenever I say something funny, Nate can just put in, wrong again, Joey.

Whenever he goes back to saying creatine his normal way, Keith will be on it. can just put in, wrong again, Joey. Whenever he goes back to saying creatine his normal way, Keith will be on it. He'll be like, wrong again, Joey. Oh, I swear to God you say it wrong. Unless I'm getting you mixed up with Tanner or Tommy, but someone in my audio consumption says it completely wrong and it's consistent.

I've always said creatine. I have no clue what you're talking about. Creatine. Does Tanner say creatine like maybe or creatine is it someone i someone someone i listen to says creatine oh no i'm gonna start fucking that's the pronunciation i'll fuck off and like i'm gonna creatine i'm gonna start i'm gonna start that one i know is not okay i'm gonna start messing with you this is the the way. This is the way. Oh. Speaking of the way. I, like, this is one of the coolest things I want to, we don't normally talk about work

unless, I don't, right? Like, this isn't the podcast about work. This is the podcast about crew. But, like, you have a fucking cool job. Do you want to talk about it? I mean, it's got its moments it's like you know i don't know i tell a lot of people about it when they like ask me i'm like yeah it's like 99 like super mundane bs paperwork whatever you know checking outlook doing teams meetings whatever a lot of

the same other stuff that people deal with but but just a little bit of it's pretty cool to blow stuff up, play with things that go boom. Do you mind telling people what it is you do? Yeah, so I'm an explosive ordnance disposal technician, so I take things that go boom and

try to make them not go boom, then make them go boom elsewhere. I don't know. I usually sum it up as like the world's most dangerous garbage man, I guess. It's just taking trash that people find that could blow up, and it's like, oh, that's some dangerous trash. Let's get rid of that trash for you. That should be the episode title.

The world's most dangerous garbage man. Yeah, it's kind of fun. Stuff like that. Most of the time, it's most dangerous garbage man yeah it's kind of fun stuff like that most of the time it's just uh checking emails or whatever and then all of a sudden some local cop calls us because someone passed away and they're going through somebody's belongings or whatever to settle their estate and then they find a hand grenade and they're like what do i do and i just pictured like that scene in anchorman whereick's like running around with their grenade like, ah, they're like, where did you get a grenade? Yeah, that how do you get into that?

Like, was that just a thing you like? You weren't a kid being like, you know what I want to do when I grow up? I mean, like I was probably pretty predisposed to doing it because I like throwing firecrackers in people's mailboxes and stuff like that when I was a kid, like things on fire. And then when someone came to my high school and told me I could get paid to make things go boom, I thought that was kind of neat. So I've been doing that for almost 10 years now. It's pretty fun. I think one of the, I don't know if I should get into that.

It's a bit heavy. But one of the things I once read from somebody who does the same job and it's actually stuck with me and it's become a model for life is like, do you find your job dangerous? Dangerous? And he responded, yeah, it's only my problem for a minute. Yeah. And I was just like, Ooh, I love that because like, that's kind of, you know, my model is looking, I'm either right or it's not my problem anymore yeah i i thought that was really cool when i saw that

you did that i was like yeah i don't want to hear about that yeah i remember like i was fresh out of high school down in florida and they were like teaching us how to do it and everything i'm like standing in this big hole out in the middle of nowhere staring at like a thousand pounds of ordinance and everything they're like yeah they're like all right here's how you guys like set up in this big hole out in the middle of nowhere staring at like a thousand pounds of ordinance and everything they're like yeah they're like all right here's how you guys like set up your charges blah blah blah or whatever uh we're gonna have everybody else like go back up to the bunker and then you're gonna be the guy that like you know does the final bit of like setting the charge up and getting ready to go and i was kind of standing in that pit by myself looking at it i was like man if all that went off right now like i wouldn't feel a thing and then i just started

giggling to myself about it i would say comes back over to me like giggling like he's like what the fuck is wrong with you i was like don't worry about it it's kind of morbid but it's it is yeah it's a cool part of it yeah it's only my problem for a minute yeah so you were able to get into that position right right when you were in or did you have to do like general infantry for like four years and then transfer over or something or no so i like started talking to a recruiter right out of high school and they're like hey go blow some stuff up and i was like oh that's pretty cool didn't have to like transfer over from everything else it depends like what service you do like because it's like the one job in the military that like every branch

has where they're like army air force navy marine corps they all have like the same specialty we all go to the same school but then we like go off to our own services so you kind of get to like see a little bit of all the different branches when you're going through down there. And then you go back and do it kind of, you know, the Air Force's way or the Army's way or the Navy's way, depending on what you're in. So you're in the Air Force, right? Yeah. You were in the Air Force. Yeah.

So I thought. So the Air Force is one of the branches that just lets you hop right into it. So I've been doing that pretty much since I stopped working construction after high school there are a couple things here like why do the name merino keeps coming up over and over again oh like what do you want to talk about that what does that mean uh yeah so it's like a reference to merino wool uh kind of a big sock guy big sock guy yeah i'm i'm very particular about my socks you know i like having good socks old man what's told me uh you know never cheap out on the ground and i'm like well i gotta take care of your feet i got tired of getting blisters and all this other stuff one day magically found out about this miracle product called Merino Wool and started wearing it all the time.

It's soft. It keeps odor out. It dries quicker than cotton and all this other stuff. I was like, these are the greatest thing ever. Then some people gave that to me as a nickname one time because I was at a house party. I was hanging out in a friend's kitchen. We're all standing around his uncompleted kitchen, having beers, hanging out, shooting the shit.

And I'm sitting there drinking a beer and I'm like kind of leaning back, propped up against the unfinished countertop, just hanging out. And then all of a sudden I start sliding just a little bit. And then I catch myself. I'm like, okay, we're good or whatever. And then everybody's like are you good over there i was like yeah it's just these marina wool socks you're a little slippery and then i i catch myself leaning up against the counter again

and that time i go like beyond the point of no return and then next thing i know like i'm on the ground with like a beer like bouncing off my chest like spring beer all over the place like i managed to kind of catch it but it like did that thing where you like tap it on the floor and it like geysers everywhere it did that off of my chest and so i'm sitting there like with this shocked face and beer all over myself they're like what the hell why are you slipping all over the place and then i go on like some unhinged rant about like, Oh, this goddamn laminate floorings and the, the Marino wool socks have a friction coefficients off,

blah, blah, blah. Cause me to slip and spill my beer all over the place. And they're like, that's great. Like, what is up with you in those socks?

It's like, it's the damn socks. Too slippery. The friction coefficients off. And so they're like, dude, you gotta stop with those socks. And so they started calling me Marino after that. Love it. Are you wearing

Marino wool socks right now? No, I'm actually barefoot right now. I don't wear socks at home. As soon as I get home, socks are off. Gotta let the piggies breathe. Yep. Marino is superior wool. Can confirm. It's the best wool.

Once you figure it out, it's like all other socks are just ruined. I wear silly socks for the most part. Right? Yeah, like Spider-Man and Spice Girls and Rugrats. Just silly shit because I have to wear business casual to work. And one part

of that's gonna be silly. It's not my underwear, so it's going to be the socks. Now, we have Alaska mentioned a couple times. Are you from Alaska, or did you just spend a lot of time in Alaska? Yes, I actually grew up there.

I was there for almost 19 years. Oh, wow. It's a weird place, but I love it up there. Now, is Alaska, do you think, one of the more heavily recruited for military states? I mean, like, probably per capita, it's pretty high, because, like, the two, like, bigger cities we have have military bases in them. So, like, a lot of the friends I went to high school with joined. I mean, my dad was in, so... And then his dad was i went to high school with joined uh i mean my dad was in so

and then his dad was in i was you know i don't know how far back the lineage goes but it's kind of one of those things so there's just like a lot of people that were either like stationed up there loved it and then when they get out they move to alaska or whatever so it's like yeah the two big cities we have they're like pretty heavy on like army and air force kind of thing. So what are the two big cities? Anchorage and, uh, Fairbanks,

which honestly Fairbanks isn't like that big. It's probably like maybe Aberdeen size. Um, if I had to like make a good comparison, so just to kind of, I think you'll end up back there in your, in your later years, or are you pretty happy down in the lower 48?

I don't know, man. I miss the mountains. Like every time I go back up to visit it, you know, coming from Ohio, I get off the plane in Alaska and I just take a big, deep breath of that fresh mountain air.

And I'm like, Oh my God, I can breathe again. It's, it's great. I can only imagine. I love, I love up North.

Yeah. It's really pretty up there. Not lot of people sparsely populated lots uh just you know nature and stuff like that you can immerse yourself in pretty easily so maybe and and not to get too political but like pretty much is canada yeah i mean i had a lot of people asking me about Trailer Park Boys when I first joined, you know, because they're like, why do you say car weird? Car. Car. Yeah. Get in the fucking car, Ricky. You know, I was talking to a bunch of

guys from the East Coast or whatever, and I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I kind of do have a little bit of that northern accent. Yeah. Just a tad. Never noticed it until I met a bunch of mass holes from the East Coast. And they were like, car, car, say car again. Car. Well, it's so weird how just like there's an entire country in between the U.S. and Alaska. Yeah.

And like, you know, we all know why it happened and everything like that but it's just like just be canada just yeah just give us that we'll take it you guys can all pair with alberta i'll take like half a canadian label because my mom's actually originally from canada so that's the spirit 50 yeah you're outnumbered now ke Keith. Half Canadian. Yeah, we got one and a half Canadians in here. Well, I mean, you factor in Joey's size. I think I still outnumber you guys. Ooh, factor in deadlifts. And I think we outnumber you.

I got a big deadlift tomorrow I'm excited for. I got a triple on the axle, 18-inch axle bar. I'm still on hypertrophy fucking hypertrophy i hate it so much you always feel super jacked during hypertrophy but like you're just always tired you just always beat up and tired all right always tired has been my facebook status for the last 20 years the hell is facebook um i don't know and you make more posts than i do what is uh did we cover what lamp is and why you love it uh because he loves lamp it's from anchorman oh that was the i didn't get that earlier because i don't know what anchorman is right i can watch that movie a lot there's just some movies that keith refuses to watch on

principle now because he hates i'm so spiteful I will never and oh is Shrek something I should watch because I don't know I think I missed the boat on that one I think I'm too old to watch Shrek yeah never watch Shrek I did start a list we'll see if I ever get to it though

what is the coolest thing you have ever 3D printed oh man uh i've made some things that go boom like you can 3d print that well i mean sort of like you can basically make like certain shapes with explosives kind of and so you can make like a little container that like molds it to you know the explosives to behave a certain way. If you're like, hey, I want to pop this thing open or whatever. I've done

some of that. That's pretty neat. Work stuff. I'm going to 3D print this big soup can. It makes big holes and stuff. That's probably one up there.

Are you helping Kurt with any of his 3d printing of those miniature uh uh power racks he's he's fucking around with well or have you done or have you done any of those uh not yet but uh i'd been doing a little bit and uh me and one of the other guys uh that we both know we're doing a bunch of it and he was like wow that's pretty cool like i want to learn about 3d printing and so we like kind of gave him a crash course and now this guy probably he probably knows more about it than i do at this point like he went out bought one and like went off the deep end with like making his own cad designs and 3d printing i haven't even touched cad yet i just like squirting out other people's designs nice uh so as far as lifting you're uh you know you're currently just kind of uh in limbo between your next meet or your next show or

anything on the uh the radar or what are you using for uh uh programming or anything like that uh nothing on the radar right now i've been using jug i just kind of like after lift hard live easy classic i was like took a little bit of time off because i was like man i don't want to touch a barbell for at least a little while uh and then after about a week i was like i haven't been to the gym like this is an existential crisis i need to go and so i just started another jug program i've been doing that until i can maybe find something a little closer to here, which shouldn't be hard since it's Ohio. Yeah, there should be a drill. Throw a rock and hit fucking seven meets.

Yeah. So I just got to shit or get off the pot and find something around here. Maybe in the wintertime, do like a good winter. Somewhere on Christmas. Now it's time to sign up for shit. Start selling out or, you know, the timing doesn't work out for the peak. It do be like that. You're like, you do a peaking and then you do your meat and you're just like, I'm so sore and so tired.

I don't want to do this anymore. And then, yeah, like about a week, maybe two later, you're going, I miss my barbell so much. You start to like feel the withdrawal. Yeah. I missed the pump. Get me back in. Time to start all over again. Right back to the bridge block. Let's go. Time to hate this again in a year.

Here's one of Keith's favorite things. Somebody did it to me the other day too. Four-way stops god yeah like it's the worst and you're like it's your turn it's your turn go it's your turn go it's your turn go and then they stick their hand out the window and they wave you and you're like it's not my fucking turn like i hate that yeah we i don't know what it is about Ohio, but like ever since I moved here, people in Ohio are like, oh, I'm going to be like super nice.

And even though I've already been here for like what seems like an eternity, I'm going to wave this other guy through. And then as you're like sitting there trying to figure out who's going to go, somebody else comes over and like watches you like waving back and forth. And so now I just get the point where I'll just like sit there and just kind of like stare at them they'll like wave at me and they'll be like okay he's not going and then they'll throw their hand up and go i don't know what it is about ohio but i'm like just just just take the right away it's because they're all worried they're going to hit a deer yeah yeah a lot of that or an opossum

i almost yeah i had uh i almost hit i almost i'd see it today i guess today there was there was a squirrel on the road i had that kind of i didn't have i mean it was like it was a slow back road so i didn't feel bad about kind of almost coming to a stop but if it was like the main road i would have just you know we'll see uh and then there was ducks or geese i guess it would have been silly geese that i had to kind of completely stop for and then the one was just it kind of like froze and did like went went went one way for like a couple steps and went the other way and then back and forth it basically did like three stutter steps before it got the fuck out of the way so i was like uh i was in my company truck so i wasn't in a hurry though at least you ain't gotta worry about moose oh god

that would be oh did you guys watch that fucking video that tanner was talking about the dude riding did we talk about that yet the good oh we talk about that yet? The guy in a buffalo? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guy in a buffalo. That was fake. That was a horse with a buffalo. Was it really? It had to have been.

I don't know. Like the legs were too skinny and moving. Like there was no way that was real buffalo. I don't know. It looked like it was a legit TV show too, which if it was a TV show for sure it was fake, but I don't know. And it was like in like the 70s or the 60s so yeah i i was watching i was watching it and i was just looking at the legs going like those don't those look too long to be buffalo legs i don't know because the one

dude like said his dad tried the same thing and he reached out to the guy that did it and like had a whole conversation with him about it uh yeah seth albers i thought about that too so i don't know i'll have to maybe deep dive that but uh you won't catch me you won't catch me fucking around with no buffalo no like do do moose actually exist in the u.s or are they like aware of the border like do they just stop at the border and like i'm not i'm not going over there i don't know i mean they go into alaska but i guess that's not it's basically Canada, so... Yeah, like, geographically is Canada.

So, okay, it's clearly not, like, a border thing. It's just, yeah, I just never hear of Americans talk about moose. It's strictly a Canadian animal. No, sure. They just kind of, like, scratch the surface. I think they're sightings. You just see them... I think, like, literally what Tanner was talking about.

Like, when they see one, it's on the news for like in the whole fucking state for like a week. So I think I've seen like tidbits like that on YouTube or like news clips or something, but it's not like a, a daily or weekly occurrence. I can't imagine at least not anywhere around here. Yeah.

That was a fun little story to listen to where they're like, yeah, look, a moose is here. It makes the news. I'm like, that's just like a normal Tuesday in the backyard. You just walk out and you're like, yeah, look, a moose is here. It makes the news. I'm like, that's just like a normal Tuesday in the backyard.

You just walk out and you're like, oh, another one. And moose are terrifying. Oh, yeah. Right? I love watching when me and Steve were driving and we saw the moose come out, the cow and the calf,

and cars were pulling over to try and get close. And me and Steve were like, fuck that. Like, we know better you guys are clearly tourists you do not get close because they are gigantic and they will mess you up

so as far as Alaska outside of like sights and scenery and like you know just the view and what not what's like the one thing you miss the most you would say uh probably fishing I like fishing up there it's just cool pastime I miss the most you would say uh probably fishing i like fishing up there it's just cool cool pastime i did with my dad growing up uh it's good yeah there's world class fishing everywhere you know salmon run comes in uh you're just out there hanging out on the

water you know everywhere it looks like a screensaver and then you're just sitting there catching like this delicious food and making memories it's just a good time that's not fun do you do you miss the dummies that move up there thinking they're gonna live on their live on the land and fucking freeze to death a month later or something yeah yeah there's like abandoned cabins everywhere at least like if you were to watch the fucking the the shows that i watch of like you know uh there's always some like uh wild person that wants to live yeah like person that wants to live in the wilderness and then let's just like can't hack it basically there's so many different discovery shows about that i feel it's a little cold up there like what was that one dummy that the movie was about oh like into

the wild or whatever yeah yeah they had to go out there and like take that bus out of the woods. Cause like people kept hiking out there and be like, we want to see the bus. And then they'd like get stranded out there and they'd have to like send search and rescue to go pick them up. Yeah. And he, he died cause he didn't have a map.

Yeah. And then he was eating the wrong stuff, I guess. He ate those berries and those berries stop you from digesting food. And then the river flooded. But if he had a map, he would have known that like two miles away was a bridge. But because he was like,

I'm going to do this without a map. He fucking dies. Right? No. Yeah. It's just, everybody looks up to him and I'm like, no,

that's a stupid person. Like, don't look up to that guy. When I watched that movie, I didn't know the story or the book or anything. So when he died at the end, I was like, what the fuck?

This was so stupid. Like you've killed yourself you fucking moron this is so stupid i was just like it was a decent movie up until i don't know i just didn't like the end yeah and then you read about it it's just like yeah if you had a map he would have been fine he just opted out of maps that'd be a horrible way to go to like to literally starve like to die of starvation like that's so yeah that'd be brutal no thanks i'll take the bombs yeah at least that's quick so uh you and i had when we were at home gym con we talked a good bit about your career and whatnot did you end up signing up for any more or did they offer you like a shorter term because i

know you you have to basically like re-up every couple you know every four years or whatever or what you're figuring that one out that's what i think that's what you told me in fucking march at home gym con it's what you told me in july so nothing's changed is everything still kind of just yeah status quo kicking that can down the road yeah i don't blame you you know so you got to figure out what you want to do man yeah with everything going on right now it's kind of a weird time to be in this line of work i'll just say that yeah i can i can say that for sure so we'll go to good good luck with it whatever whatever happens with that man and you know ideally like yep can i hit him with my uh with a mount rushmore do it mount rushmore yeah i want to do the Mount Rushmore of top

four Creed songs because I don't think we've ever discussed that on this podcast. Yeah, Creed's cool. They just did a reunion tour. I was there. Yeah, they came through Ohio and I guess it was like one of their first shows to sell out. My girlfriend

got me tickets for my birthday last year like i was just listening to it in the truck one day and i was like yeah creed's cool again and like made an impulse buy like oh that's cool i now i got an idea for birthday gift and so we went and saw creed and it was nice little trip down nostalgia lane for me it was fantastic uh who opened with them uh finger 11 and three doors down yeah so finger 11 is actually from my hometown oh wow that's cool yeah so they were there when we saw them and i think uh three doors down wasn't there uh big wreck was there okay yeah but yeah i definitely

so yeah top four creed songs like if you could only listen to four again what would they be listen to four uh higher obviously uh one last breath my own prison and it's always the fourth one that seems i really like the intro to Say Aye. That's a good one. It's a little bit different compared to some of the I would put What If. I would put What If on the fourth one there. I agree with the other three.

But What If, that's such a heavy fucking song. If I could share a story, because it's a shared thing there. I got back into Creed. So my brother introduced me to Creed when they first came out and I'm always like, and then I started getting back into them and I distinctly remember I was

like buzzed and in the kitchen and I was giving my wife one of my standard lessons on the history of music about how important Creed was. And I was like, Nirvana was done. Grunge was done. Heavy music was essentially off the table. And then My Own Prison came out. And My Own Prison introduced us back to heavy music. And it wasn't heavy metal heavy, but it was still chunky rock music.

It was post grunge and i was like this album is so important to the world of heavy music because you got songs like torn um one like these songs pity for a dime right and and then like a year later they got back together and i was she was like you're going to that aren't you i was like i'm going to that there's no chance i'm missing this concert yeah yeah it was cool for me like i it was you know i'm a little bit younger but like it was something my dad listened to you know i you know tanner and tommy always talk about it on the podcast is like butt rock yeah i think there's like a few bands that i i always think of them as dad rock you know stuff like pearl jam creed yeah like just stuff from that era because it seems like it's

all the stuff that people's dads were listening to at the time and so i remember like you know he'd pop in a creed cd in the home stereo and be jamming out to creed oh this is cool now they're cool again so everybody loved hating them for years and for me i was like ah this is it's a kind of always been cool i just kind of forgot about them now i am the dad yeah and it's worth noting um so limp biscuit got together they're still touring um jane's addiction got together and then they broke up again um there's another band that got back together they broke up again like all of these nostalgia bands are getting back together and breaking up and creed's like no we're booking a second tour and they're like we're gonna do a cruise we're gonna do a second tour like they

sold out almost all their shows so you know there's some longevity there it was like this cool renaissance there's like a lot of modern music that's just not resonating with people yeah so now people are like taking this look back at all these other things that they just kind of like poo-pooed or whatever you know like and they're like wait a minute like that's actually like pretty cool hold on like And so now people are, you know. I think it's a beautiful thing. I think that the key is the people with disposable income to go to concerts are the people that want to see those bands.

Yeah. Right? Like the Taylor Swift fans, there's a lot of adults that are Taylor Swift fans, but mostly kids. So they're not the people with the disposable income to support the tours and support the stuff like that, right? So the parents are the people my age that are like, well, yeah, I have income and time to go to these types of things.

So I think that that might play a little bit of a factor in there. I'm trying to convince my brother right now. There's a Toronto show that's going to be three days long, and it's going to be Pantera, Metallica, Suicidal Tendencies, Limp Bizkit, and I think Metallica's playing every night as the

headliner, but they're playing a different set every night, but I want to go to the Pantera one. He's like, no, Pantera's on Wednesday. I'm not going to a Wednesday show. And I'm like, but Zach Wild's playing for Pantera. So I want to go see that. There we go. And I'm like, but Zach Wild's playing for Pantera. So I want to go see that. There we go. And he's like, I'd rather go to Limp Bizkit because it's on Saturday. Well, I don't

want to see Limp Bizkit. I love Limp Bizkit, but I like Zach Wild a bit more. Anyway, that's our music talk for the week. Sorry, Keith, we bored you there. You're good. Do you want to FMK there? Yeah, I'm FMKing George Because there's some gym equipment there that you can nerd out. Yeah, well, I will preface the one, I guess, with a question of,

are you kind of an equipment nerd at all? Do you know the difference between a handful of barbells and have opinions about them? A little bit. Okay, cool. So FMK. We got Kabuki Power Bar, Texas Power Bar, Ohio Power Bar. I would say pretty much the big three or at least three of the top five or four known power bars right now in the powerlifting market.

So FMK, Kabuki Bar, Texas Power Bar, Ohio Power Bar. What do you got, George? So I haven't lifted on a kabuki power bar yet so i'd probably uh i'd probably do the the one night stand with the kabuki power bar just to give it a go haven't been with it um nice nice logic i actually like that a lot since i haven't had it i'll just i want to get it once i i have it so might as well you know just go all in, try it out. If I'm going to marry one, I like the Texas. Texas is great.

I'm kind of already married to an Ohio bar right now, so it kind of sounds contradictory, but I do love the Texas Power Bars. They're great. I've lifted on those quite a few times. They're fun. I guess that just leaves me

killing the ohio bar even though i'm in ohio they're everywhere they're kind of more accessible generally saying i think um but that's just kind of what i'm with right now so i'm going to go for the other two as far as the fun goes there you go that's that's a fair answer across the board i'll hit you with one more fmk that might resonate a little deeper uh have a little more stronger opinions on so we're gonna go with fishing hunting lifting weights fmk fishing hunting lifting weights figure this one might be a little harder for you yeah oh his eyes are getting all bulgy he doesn't know what to do i want to do all of them because like fishing and hunting means you got lots of protein for the games yeah you know you got like a chest

full of deer meat or fish or whatever uh i feel like they kind of go makes it easier to pack a deer out of the strong enough to pick it up i I guess, and throw it in the truck. Oh, man, that's a tough one. Yeah, there's so many ways to look at it. Honestly, like, if I had to kill one, I'd probably kill hunting. I guess I'm going to do it in a reverse order, but just because, like,

depending on where you're at, hunting is kind of dead in some places where they're just super crowded crowded too many people out there not a lot of public bigger barrier entry too probably too so yeah so like like in ohio for example it's kind of hard to get into hunting here because of how populated it is whereas like in alaska or south dakota it's pretty easy did it all the time can't really do it as much here uh so haven't really been doing it that much lately anyway so

i'd probably just kill it as much as i'd hate to do so it'd be like a mercy kill like yeah sorry um oh and then to fit fishing and lifting you know i'd probably i'd probably marry lifting just because it's a nice pursuit that like kind of always do it wherever. Uh, it's kind of hard to like find a place that doesn't have it or somewhere where you can make a home gym. Going fishing once in a while is, is nice. You know, I'm not quite as committed to that as. Nice. It's nice to make you squirm a little bit there.

So that was good. That was like, it was a good one. Whoever submitted that one, it was a well done. So, um, we spoke earlier a little bit about,

uh, the dummies that go to Alaska to try and live off the land, but somebody did mention the, your survival skills. Is survivalism a thing that that you're really interested in? I mean, kind of. I've farted around with it a little bit because I grew up camping,

hunting, spending lots of time out in the wilderness just because I was bored as a kid. I'm like, I'm going to go out in the woods and try to start a fire or build a fort and stuff. I started watching this show alone where they send all the guys out on TV,

you know, and they're like, who could last the longest. And I'll just be sitting there like watching some of these guys like, Oh, I could do that shit. Um, it's pretty fun.

I haven't really like done like a good trip where I'm out in the wilderness in quite a while, since there's not a lot of wilderness in Ohio, not as accessible as it is out West, but's fun i love that kind of stuff just you know going out using what you have to kind of make it work you know whether it's like building a shelter out in the mountains or whatever you know camping out with a buddy and you're like man these tents suck like we're just going to take a tarp and build a little fort out in the woods so who do you think is more realistic bear grills and i love bear grills um or who i was just googling it i can't remember the fucking guy's name the other guy that guy yes's try it yes thank you yeah yeah who do you think

is more believable uh i like less drought you know he's like he doesn't have a production crew there he's like out there doing all this stuff and then they give him like a case with a bunch of camera equipment they're like hey you're gonna like do the thing but also like set up a camera and film yourself doing it yeah don't die yeah i always joke that like oh yeah bear grills is gonna get off camera and the production crew is gonna like yeah give him a domino's pizza like right after he gets done drinking his own piss or whatever yeah i think the bear grills one was always a little bit for me like if this happens to you here's what you can do and then les stroud was like well this is happening to me because i'm out can do. And then Les Stroud was like, well,

this is happening to me because I'm out here doing it. Right. I think that that was, I, it was more like one was an example and the other one was just fucking doing it. Yeah. Yeah.

It was a little bit more showy. Like, hold on, I'm going to make a jacket out of seal fat right now or whatever. And it's like, why would you need to do that? Yeah. But I do, I did love watching that kind of stuff too um never really got into it but it was always it was always a small interest of mine until i realized i i live in a city i don't need to know this shit for now

that's fair yeah when i grew up like you know a lot of a lot of my family members had planes stuff you know and one of them like lived on a homestead, like out in the middle of nowhere, like, no, you can't get there by road. And so people are always like, yeah, like you could be just, I don't know, your plane could go down happens all the time, or you could be stuck somewhere or like even just driving from point A to point B. Like sometimes you're just kind of like, there's not a lot of civilization around here. Like you probably want to have like some kind of, I don't know, skills. So that was something that I always thought was kind of neat to have because it was kind of omnipresent just by virtue of being in Alaska. Drive 20 minutes in any direction, you're in the middle of nowhere. So my question then, do you carry a pocket knife at all times?

Oh, most of the time yeah me too i think that i think that's a remnant of being into that at a young age where you're just like for about a couple years i didn't and then started to really miss it because i was just like if i had my knife right now honestly for me it just kind of more turns into like a fidget toy because i'm like very tactile i gotta have something in my hands to fidget with so it's cool utilitarian thing if you need it like to open a package or whatever but then usually i'm just sitting there fidgeting with it and sometimes people give me weird looks and like why do you have a knife out like i don't know it's mechanical and it's fascinating it makes that fun click sorry yeah i'm not trying to like make anybody uncomfortable with the knife it's just i'm just that fun click sound. Sorry, yeah, I'm not trying to make anybody uncomfortable

with the knife. I'm just playing with it. I'll pull it out and I'll start cleaning my nails with it. And then you realize suddenly you're looking around and everybody's staring at you and you're like, it was sharp and my nails were dirty. I realize I look like a psychopath right now. I am sorry.

Yeah, it's just kind of like you walk in and everybody's like, why is that guy have a knife yeah oh wait a minute yeah like i guess i'm well that's everybody looking at the weird one i was uh my brother always carries one and i remember i was at his house and it was a big party and i was like uh he's like oh can you open that uh water bottle case i was like yeah sure give me your knife he's like just rip it open and i was like no no like if you cut it in half you can split it open and it's easier to get to and he's like just rip it open and i was like no no like if you cut it in half you can split it open and it's easier to get to and he was like just rip it open dude i was like no give me your fucking knife like it was an argument

because i was like i assure you this is the thing too with the costco knives or costco water things you cut them in half and then you bend them in half right so that like you just and then you can just reach in and pull out bottles and they don't roll everywhere. And you don't have to like fight with it. Smart. And that's when I was just like, I'm so sick of not carrying my own knife anymore. And I think that was the day I was like,

I'm never going to be without my knife again. Blame my brother for my craziness. Um, we are going on an hour and a half. So I really want to ask you you want to do the impression yeah i want to hear your cronk impression oh oh really put me on the spot here is cronk um okay yeah okay so cronk is is the guy that does Joe from Family Guy, right? Yeah.

Hey, Peter. There we go. Hey, Peter. What's wrong, Joe? Your legs don't work? Yeah. I know. When Matt was on doing all his impressions, I was like, okay.

Yeah, definitely. I think it's something we should it's something we should add in here like you're the best impression you do because some people have really niche impressions where it's just like oh this is my high school teacher like what other what else do you do do you do other impressions what i do pretty good hank hill oh yeah typically when i'm out grilling or whatever, I'll just be sitting there, you know, checking the propane,

making sure the meat's working right. Just everything's just coming together. Can you say in that voice, do I look like I know what a JPEG is? I just want a picture of a goddamn hot dog. Do I look like I know what a JPEG is? I just want a picture of a goddamn hot dog do i look like i know what a jpeg is i just want a picture of a goddamn hot dog uh is that show getting re uh did i i think i read somewhere is that show coming back

is that a thing is there a new series i don't know but i hope so it's a it's a good show i don't know if i ever even finished that like i know i watched it in like middle school but i don't know if i ever like stuck with it till the end um i should go back and see if i actually caught all those that's a really good show that was a good job i think that was that was fantastic that was better than the cronk yeah i think you're yeah the cronk one's kind of it's not not i think your your peter was pretty good and then oh god that came out wrong um your peter was pretty well your peter over here yeah yeah peter likes peter oh good stuff well i think we can move on to a little unpaid or underrated there big george um

if anyone's not familiar with the game if you get any of your friends and family listening for the first time we play a game called unpaid or underrated we're going to give george a handful of questions here that are specific to him and he has to tell us if he believes they are unpaid or underrated. We're going to give George a handful of questions here that are specific to him. And he has to tell us if he believes they are unpaid, which would be, you know, some people might consider that overrated. We call it unpaid around here, or if he thinks it's pretty cool, he'll call it underrated. So we'll go ahead and dive right in. I'm gonna go with a couple movies from your, from your career and let you see how you feel about them. So I'm gonna start off with the, probably the lesser known one, Blown Away. What do you think?

Unpaid or underrated? Underrated. It's a good movie. Yeah, there's even a lot of guys I work with that have never seen Blown Away, and I'm just like, you got to see Blown Away. It's great. It's a really good movie.

It's corny. It's over the top, but I love Tommy Lee Jones and that era of movies he was in. He's a good villain in that. He's a very good villain. Yeah. Just the,

just the whole premise of that movie is great. Like it's over the top has like not realistic at all, but I just, I love it. It's great. Yeah. I feel like you might have a Tommy Lee Jones impression in you if you worked on it.

I never thought about that one. Yeah. I think that based on what you've done already i think if you gave that a chance i want to hear yeah like i'm trying to think of what's the most what's tommy jones most like give it like a 30 second sound but even a 10 second sound by like what would it be i think it'd have to be the uh i want you to search every dog house uh hen house you know when he's looking yeah and i wouldn't be in the fugitive where they're looking for kimball right right after the the crash i think that's probably got to be his like most

famous like 15 second line or something i don't know what else would top that i'm not saying do it now but i'm just no no yeah i was just like that i got some more training to do yeah i think that you might have that one in you pretty good so i'm glad you like blown away i've talked to a couple other guys in your on your field, and they all really liked Blown Away and didn't love the next one I'm going to ask about. So unpaid or underrated Hurt Locker? You know, I think it's underrated. It's an unpopular opinion.

Dudes love giving that movie shit, but I just love it for some of the quotes. There's some really corny lines in there. I quote it all the time. Almost like, you know, it's, it's like when someone makes a really corny dad joke and everybody's like

rolling your eyes at you, they're like, Oh God, he's quoting this movie again. You know, like the part where he's like, hold on. I think I left my gloves down there.

And then the dude's like, you know, these things misfire all the time. Like I say that all the time. People, people are like, shut up shut up dude stop quoting that stupid movie is is there another so outside of those two is there one i'm missing that is like you know in your field that is like really popular or up there like what's like would you consider that one and two for the most popular or most enjoyable? What about the, what about the Batman movie where he's running, holding the bomb?

So I'm running through the city. Yeah. Like if I had to like tell people what I do for work, like with a gift, that's usually what I send them. It's like, cause I love Batman and things that go boom. So I'll be like,

what do you do for a living? I send them back. Cause it's funny no so i i did a little bit of research on this one time when i was deployed because we were like super bored and you watch a lot of movies when you're deployed because there's a lot of downtime and so we had like a whiteboard of like all the movies to watch you know like you know because you don't get to go home after work or whatever so we would just hang out in the break room watch movies all night until people pass out and so we made like a big whiteboard list of like all the bomb squad movies we could think of and then we just started like going down

the list and there's some gems in there that i think are kind of underrated uh juggernauts a classic uh if you've never watched juggernaut there's like this no terrorist guy it came out like the 70s and there's like a cruise ship and this guy is like i'm gonna put bombs all over this cruise ship and then uh these british uh guys like parachute in to like save the day and they have like these really tense moments it's it's pretty good movie uh i'd say that one's great i just added it to my watch list and i'll probably watch that before i ever watch shrek jen i think that's where like the whole cliche of like which wire are you gonna cut kind of thing oh yeah that's the movie that like started that whole cliche in hollywood so that one's pretty good uh because like the climax of the

movie is like this dude like sitting there like 50 50 completely unrealistic but i love it um great movie uh another good one uh if you guys love uh corny steven seagal movies it's called kicker um not one of his more well-known works but it's it's super great he's like this you know like badass bomb tech that's like the the guy that everybody goes to to do whatever nobody else can. He's like, I've never seen a ticker quite like this before. Oh, geez.

What about the scene from Lethal Weapon 2 where Danny Glover's on the shit? That was a classic. Is the styrofoam thing real? You put styrofoam around a bomb? That was supposed to delay something for one second right or something like that was i could have something with styrofoam around it i mean like i guess depending

on like how the thing went off you could probably i haven't seen it well maybe maybe maybe that was just a barrier not to freeze his feet when they did the nitrogen possibly yeah i i don't remember but it it's a fun concept probably wouldn't have worked i think mythbusters actually did a pretty good job where they're like hey we're gonna like try this out and so they have like a bathtub and a toilet and they got like the uh test dummy sitting there and they're like what's gonna happen you know like would you actually be able to hide in the bathtub and of course the ceramic bathtub just gets like blown to bits yes oh i can imagine because it's not just gonna blow out the fucking window.

It's going to have some degree of left to right, not just forward. You would imagine. Oh, I go all over the place. Yeah. I love the toilet that survives and lands on the cop car. Yeah. Yeah. It just got blown.

It just got. I didn't even think about that part. Yeah. That porcelain toilet would have been completely fucking shattered instantly. It's like all those videos of kids throwing firecrackers in the toilets. I don't know if you guys have ever seen videos of that. They flush it

and they think it's just going to explode and no, it just destroys the toilet. The toilet's everywhere. Just from a little tiny firecracker. The ceramic toilet. In that movie, they send it into the stratosphere and it is pristine on the cop car.

Good movies. I'll hit you with my last one here before I hand it off. So let's go unpaid or underrated hugs. Oh, man. Hugs are so underrated. People need to give more hugs. Agreed. agreed yeah this is like a good hug yeah hugs yeah men are afraid of hugs they do that weird that weird sideways hug right but then

like you see somebody that you haven't seen in forever and you give like your best friend that you haven't seen in like a year like a real like hug oh yeah yeah yeah one thing that i would say is unpaid a scott dodd's hug is unpaid though i will i would say that it's not a hug it's a no it's it's an assault i hurt you it's like when china first debuted and shook terry runnels until she bled out of her nose love you scott I saw something like that on Instagram the other day. Yeah. Not enough hugs out there, especially for dudes. Agreed.

Guys just need to be, like, I don't know, hugged more and complimented on their mustaches. Yep. If I see you at home, Jim Conner or the Arnold, we'll take care of that, bud. Let's a go. I don't believe you. I bet Keith gives awkward side hugs.

Depends how well I know you, I guess, probably. Or like my mental capacity that day. I don't know. Or physical capacity. I can't handle the bins any longer. All right. Unpaid or underrated lifting gloves? Unpaid.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen anybody doing it with lifting gloves on their hands. I don't get it. No. I don't either. Maybe I'm a little bit masochistic, but I love seeing the imprint of a barbell knurling in my hands after I'm done doing some heavy deadlifts or something. I'm like, yeah, that's a sticky barbell.

That ain't going anywhere. Have you ever fucked your hand up with such a bad callus, though, that it affected your job and your ability to work delicately the next couple days or anything like that? I guess I would be somewhat concerned about that. I mean, I've got blood blisters before where I haven't managed the callus

appropriately, and then all of a sudden, you know, callus tears off. But you just kind of. It's like most of the time I'm just doing paperwork in my mind. I'm just imagining you with like little pliers figuring out which wire to cut. And I'm like, I wouldn't want to have a callus on my hand when I'm picking up when I'm when I'm picking a little wire to cut. Most of the time, that's not your day to day. So, yeah, usually the day-to-day is battling excel so being able to do that with a um blood blister ain't the worst thing in the world but I don't know yeah I see that in gyms every now and then I don't think I've ever seen like a big dude with lifting gloves on

yeah sometimes um I'll like my calluses will catch on like my shorts or my shirt and you'll hear that scratch and then i'll go i should go deadlift just like this weird like yeah my my titan farmers carries handles are destroying my hands i i uh i did them last night and i got out and i was like it wasn't just like like the normal calluses like right underneath your ring finger or right underneath my wedding band. It was just like, it was like it on my thumb and then like below my pinky, like halfway at my hand. I just, I had never had like ripped skin in these places before. I was like, all of this calluses and I deadlift.

And it's just like, I love it so much. Yeah, I always, I always get that part, but it was just weird having like raw calluses and other parts of my hand. I was just like, oh, I guess I gotta get tougher hands if I'm gonna do farmer's carries. Start hook grip. I can't fucking hook grip like a 50mm fucking farmer's carry apparatus handle.

I don't even think that's possible. Coward. My hands. Unpaid or underrated cats. I didn't put that on there because I didn't want to know his answer I know who puts you up to this don't be afraid he only eats cat treats he's not going to take it personally

fuck off that's why you put it on here you can bring that I'll call you big Tanner now that was so funny. She keeps trying to convince me that cats are cool. I've traditionally been a dog guy. I'll say cats are underrated because they've got some pretty relevant utilities. Like, let's say you've got a farm.

Like, they're great for pest control. Yep. Stuff like that. Like, they're good at keeping certain things away. As far as like just pets, cuddliness, friendliness, I'm kind of neutral on them,

but like they're pretty cool to have around to like keep mice stuff away. Cause I hate having mice chewing on shit. So I'll say, I'll say cats are underrated. And for that, you'll get a, you'll get a less awkward side hug than you would have if you said they were unpaid. I'll never have another cat.

Yeah, that one's probably a... Well, it's definitely hard watching them die. Most people probably have expected me to say unpaid, but I'll say they're underrated. All right, well done. I have a few more. We can keep going a little bit. Unpaid or underrated Starbucks? Unpaid.

Yeah. I'm not a big Starbucks guy. Bougie coffee. I don't know. It's just expensive. I'll get it once in a blue moon. If I'm at the airport, I'm like,

that's the only source of caffeine. I guess I'll stand in line with the 50 other people that want their 10 super customized like whatever i don't know like if i'm getting coffee it's just black maybe some sugar sometimes depending on how froggy so starbucks is just kind of like i don't get it it's burnt coffee i think that's what i don't like about it is it's their pumpkin spice lattes are fucking top tier like if of all the pumpkin spice lattes out there it's the best one but like i drink like two a year yeah if you want to get like a nice little treat yeah sure but if i want a cup of coffee like just a plain cup of joe or whatever

like ah starbucks yeah i'll go to the keurig the meme that ryan shared on instagram today i think But if I want a cup of coffee, like just a plain cup of Joe or whatever, like Starbucks. Yeah, I'll go to the Keurig. The meme that Ryan shared on Instagram today, I think in a story about Star Wars, about like pumpkin this and pumpkin that. It was like basically it was like the basic white girl telling her husband to shove a pumpkin up her ass or something. And I was just like, it caught me off guard. But it's like, that's hysterical. I laughed so hard at that. Okay, i have one more unpaid and underrated um well i can answer for you if you want no no no no no he disappeared for a second that's all right good shit happened i think we should add um do you do any impressions that was a funny one yeah i don't know i think

how many people do in practice i don't i don't know. How many people do impress? I don't know anyone that does an impression. I mean, like... Everybody. I don't think I do an impression. Everybody does an impression. I'm going to get Jack and Jinder on here to do his impression of me.

That'd be funny. It was actually really good. But, like, I think that everybody does an impression whether they realize it or not, right? And I think that there's, like, even if you ask me like my impression of my dad or my impression of my boss right there's always or my impression of my wife where it's like me me me me me me like there's always something like what is an impression

you do i think we should add that to the list um so my last unpaid underrated for you george uh reply George reply all. Oh man. Too many group chats in the world. Uh, yeah, I, I don't know. A lot of, a lot of group chats, a lot of message boards,

emails, all that stuff. I don't like message. Barely vaguely care about to get from the get go. And then when I see like a bunch of other people having a conversation i don't care about i'm like nah nah dog whether it be email chains at work or just group chats i'm like i please please stop making the buzz or notification happen because i'll look at something and be like oh this is probably important i should probably

look at it i'm like nope don't care yeah in important. I should probably look at it. I'm like, nope, don't care. Yeah, in my work, they have a few of them, and I've specifically said, can I leave these, please? But because of my position, I'm not allowed to just randomly leave just because of the optics. So I just mute them, and I never open them. And it's so like, my boss will send an update, and then 30 seconds later, his counterpart will send the same update because they don't talk

to each other. So this chat is now just flooded with the same information twice, which is annoying because when I need that information right? Like now I've got 16 things to go through rather than one. Yeah.

There's so much stuff out there to sort through rather than one. Yeah. You have so much stuff out there to sort through. Please stop. Unpaid. Unpaid. All right. Well, I think you passed unpaid and underrated. We had a bunch of them for you. All right.

So then it comes down to, do you have any questions for us? Yeah. So actually, this is a Canada question for you, Joey, because I know, uh, people talk about like Canada and bag milk. Is that a thing?

Yep. In Ontario. So Ontario has bagged milk. I want to say Manitoba has bagged milk. Um, and maybe one of the Maritimes, but it's not a Canadian thing. It is a province-specific thing.

Okay. Yeah. Is it by the leader? It is by the leader. You get three bags per bag. So you buy your bag of milk, your bag, and then there's three bags in that bag.

And yes, you do buy your milk by the bag here. A weird concept. It is wild considering how unusable the plastic is after. Right? Because you've got to rinse it and clean it, and it's not recyclable until you've bagged a bunch of them. So now you're recycling a bag of bags no so like it it kind of doesn't make sense from an ecology ecological standpoint yeah ecology i think there's something medical nope maybe um close enough so it is one of those

things and you can get here like you know if, if you get your organic farmed blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you can get it in bottles and jugs. But you have to pay a deposit on those. Whereas your standard government subsidized pasteurized milk is in bags here in Ontario, at least. And then you have to buy a container to put it in with a handle, which is also wild, right? So, like, maybe this is all just big milk container really sticking it to us. Is it like a holder for your bag so that you can actually, like, pour it?

Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a pitcher that is perfectly fitted for bags of milk. You put it in and you stomp it so that it fits perfectly and then you cut one tip off. That's how you get your bag. When you're pouring it into your coffee, the bag

bends and you get too much milk in your coffee every time. What if you don't have a pocket knife? How do you cut it? Scissors, pocket knife. do you cut it uh scissors pocket knives it was a it's a heart you can't get these little they actually make little like bag cutters and they're like either like a paper cutter but they like got milk on the side yeah is that that that hasn't been a phrase in like 20 years has it that's the only campaign like i mean like i act like that was like a that was like a campaign in high school it was like all on posters and shit to get people to like drink more fucking calcium and shit but i think it was just you know no that was well that

was because big milk trying to make more money that's actually what it was is the government uh subsidized dairy farmers and then realized oh shit we spent so much money subsidizing dairy farmers that now we have to like like run a campaign from the government to get people to drink more milk like you guys know about the cheese cave right oh the cheese caves yeah i want to go to one of these i think that but that's a result of this this this dairy farmer thing people always talk about all the other big cabals. But nobody ever talks about big milk. Yeah, nobody ever talks about big dairy.

We got Conspiracy Randy to talk about it. Alright, that one was for me. Do you have anything for Keith? Will Keith be making a return to powerlifting? yeah and i've signed up for the meet this march so um oh yeah it is yeah i guess that irons that one out i forgot about that i've been seeing the detour into strongman yeah strongman's been a blast man we're gonna come back i'm my i think i've said but i don't know if i said it on here before like my goal at least unless you know something shits the bed like i would now that I've like enjoyed strong man and like experienced it a couple of times, like if I

can do one strong man show and one powerlifting meet until the day I die, like a year, like that'd be cool. Like basically, cause it's cool thing is at least it'll be easier to do powerlifting until the day I die versus strong man, because even at strong man, like you can, like, I'll be able to do master strong man, I guess, starting next summer, but a lot of, depending on what me, what, what show you do, like, there's only so much, uh, variation of like, all right, the, the, the, there's a novice class, there's a master's class and there's the old ones. But like, if the masters is still like 80% and I'm fucking 70 years old, like it's gonna be really hard to do strong man when I'm that fucking old.

So I could probably do strong man for another 10, 20 years, but I don't know if I could do strong man at like 60 because it's just the weight no matter what subdivision you're in the weight's still going to be heavy and like you know I don't know can a 60 year old pick a fucking 200 pound sandbag up like not me as a

60 year old probably but peak gravel bag yeah no peak Gravel here boring sand only guy so George is one of the few Alaskans I know I'm going to ask you if you've seen one of my favorite

shows real quick I know we're turning it back around on you but have you ever seen Northern shit Northern Exposure it's like early 90s TV show late 80s even your dad probably has seen it. It may be way too old for you. Even I've seen that.

But, I mean, it's more – so it's – I think it's actually on Prime now. So if you have Amazon Prime, you can actually stream it because for years it hasn't been available. That's why it kind of – like it aired in the early 90s and then it just disappeared because all the music rights and stuff. Like they just couldn't afford to do the show. And I think now they have the show with just like the wrong music basically but it's it is on prime so i highly recommend that and like the opening scene basically it's funny i was thinking about earlier because we're talking about moose there's just a moose walking through a town like that is the opening scene and it was like the same because i actually like think i listened to a podcast or read

something about it said it was like it was they only could do it in one shot and it was like a it was a rented moose from the zoo or something. And it was like a whole to-do and to get the town to be empty and to get enough clips of it walking down different streets and stuff. But as someone from a native Alaskan, I think you could enjoy that early 90s comedy kind of weird. It's a little wild at times, but it's a good show. I always recommend that show to people when it there's any uh relevance to them um i think let's bring this one for our landing boys yeah man almost got two hours we're doing it we're we're finally you're finally figuring this out how to how to get this under two

hours it's a good listen for people you know my wife always says anything over two hours you guys like it's too long. People don't want to listen. So yeah, I like this two-hour business. Let's do it. So we got some affiliate links if you guys want to help support the podcast. So Obsidian, Barbell Rescue, Plate Snacks, and Home Gym Con, if you use code UNPAID there, we get a small kickback that helps us out and run the podcast.

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Big George, where are they going to find you, buddy? You can find me on the Instagram at thepieguys. Perfect. Perfect. Where are you at, Joey? Over on Facebook still? Yeah. Still Instagram. Joey underscore Malesko. M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. That's

Joey underscore Malesko. M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. I love that you did that. I'm Big Keith. You can follow me at KeithHoneyCat73 on Instagram. Go follow my orange gym, then a wine seller. Until then, we'll see you next Tuesday.