Unpaid And Underrated - 36: 036 : The Right Hand Is For Honkin’

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Andrew. They dive right into some great topics this week like the Qdoba challenge, Joey's Tattoo reveal, paleontology, more poop stories, and some much needed "I'm Just Crü" follow up. The full version of "I'm Just Crü" can be found here (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/imjustcru). Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @clawtron (https://www.instagram.com/clawtron/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Andrew.

well hello everybody and welcome to episode 13 of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast for crew by crew about crew featuring crew massonomics crew crew crew crew and not so much mocked this week they kind of laid off of us this week i think drone that early uh had an episode everybody kind of just didn't find a lot to bother me about yeah i just want to say like i notice i notice when i'm not being mocked in the Discord. I am joined by Big Keith. You guys have heard of him before. Hello. Some people know me as Orange Glaze.

Now, we've got Big Andrew. Hey there. I would like to point out that I did take issue with your pronunciation of Fuji apples. That's the only thing. Yeah, that's the only thing. That's the only, yeah, that's the only issue I found this past week. Well,

it's because I actually couldn't remember which one it was. Yeah. I noticed I kept going back and forth. Cause like a broken clocks, right? Once a day. Right. So yeah,

I just go back and forth. Oh, so big Andrew. Now we're going to call you Andrew, Andy andy clawtron what are we calling you oh just call me andrew yeah all right big andrew it is um so first and foremost what are you guys drinking i have got a mango spin drift i have not tried this one yet, so let's get a little quick dive right in with it. Ooh, I don't like that. That's weird.

Oh. Yeah. I've never seen such an immediate reaction. Definitely more mango than orange, like a little tart, a lot tart. Have you had Spindrifts before? If I have, they weren't memorable i'm sure i'm sure i have but they're not in like my go-to like two or three brands that i'm like okay i know i can trust like seven of these flavors of this brand it's it's definitely not one of those yeah they use juice

in it and that okay yeah i like that yeah yeah i like the essence flavor not the yeah i didn't realize this was juice. So it's like a non-alcoholic mimosa? Yeah, I thought it was. Oh, that sounds awful. It doesn't have any sugar or anything in it. I don't know. It looks like it's.

No added sugar, probably, but it's probably got like real life sugar. Yeah, if it's got juice, definitely. Okay, well, I would not buy this one again, that's for sure. I'm drinking a Keith's. I'm not even going to mess around tonight. I'm drinking a Keith's. I'm not even going to mess around tonight. I'm going to Keith's. Nice. So for this momentous occasion,

I decided to get a drink that honors each one of you. Oh. So for Joey, Broken Skull IPA. Got that in my koozie. That's where I'm going right now. I would have liked to have Keats, but I have never, ever seen it down here in Southern California. And you won't. Yeah, and that's it.

And so once that's done for Keith, I am going to drink this hard orange Mountain Dew. Zero sugar. It has zero sugar, so it's healthy. That's intriguing. I have never seen these in Southern California, but my younger brother in Arizona had them when I went there for Thanksgiving.

He did not like the orange. I took the orange. And this perhaps is a master's or sub-master's thing, but it tastes exactly like orange triaminic from the 80s which is the medicine that all of us had in the 80s so good good good memories with that flavor well that was a it was definitely a good hold on to you know now did you uh anticipate that you were going to get caught up to the big leagues for on this episode that you were going to save it for that or you just uh you know something you had in your fridge and you hadn't gotten to?

I took it because I wanted to drink it. And I... And it's just been sitting around. I kind of don't drink as much as I used to, but I figure for tonight, we'll do it. It was faded.

Can you get the broken skull out there? Yeah. Yeah, it's everywhere. I mean, it's El Segundo is where it's brewed. Oh, so they're in California because he's from Texas and I always get confused because it's actually hard to find close to the Canadian border. Oh, yeah. In Ohio, we had to drive around to find it. And in New York, it was the same thing.

It's not everywhere. Yeah, just about every grocery store has it now. Well, lucky you. It's delicious. Yeah. What are you wearing? What do you guys got? I'll go.

I got the Raw Power shirt on. It's the first shirt I purchased from Masonomics. Good one. I love go. I got the Raw Power shirt on. It's the first shirt I purchased from Masonomics. I love it. It's my favorite. It really pops. I love the colors. I love how just over the top it is. I try to wear it everywhere. It's pretty ridiculous. A couple times my wife has said, are you wearing that? I was like, i thought it was

fine yeah i don't care whose wedding this is it's a going out shirt for me it's casual friday it'll be all right yeah that is one that actually i haven't worn that one in a while but mostly because i just can't find it you know and and they it's in the vault right now yeah and what what worries me is that i'm going to wear this out and then not be able to get it again. And I'm sure the boys will re-release it at some point, probably on blue, you know, real original. Yeah, a different blank that doesn't fit right. So you screwed yourself not buying two. That's the tricky part.

It's like when you find one that fits perfect, like just buy another one. Just buy another one and don't even open it. Just leave it in a drawer. Deal with it. But I haven't had any wear out, but granted, my oldest mask on my shirt is three years old, maybe. I mean, definitely got some letters faded. I think one of my Lyft shorts is probably the most worn.

I have a couple pairs that don't even fit anymore, but when I was wearing them, they were like 80% completely gone with the Lyft logo. None of my pairs fit anymore but when i was wearing them they were like 80 completely gone with like the lyft logo none of my pairs fit anymore yeah i'm rocking out my uh my strongman meat shirt i'm sure we'll dive into that a little bit later to try to probably do a brief recap on it but that is uh i figured that was a good shirt for the evening so i'll probably end up tacking it to the wall after this episode yeah i get it nice and sweaty first.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I've got a, I've got a big Mike Van Wick shirt on. It's the Orca mob one. Um, like I'm really just running out of shirts that fit. So like a lot of these are going to be repetitive where I can wear a medium

and look good and like it might fit, but when I want to be comfortable, I have to wear a large and I don't have a lot of larges. And when I'm recording, when i want to be comfortable i have to wear a large and i don't have a lot of larges and when i'm recording i'm going to be comfortable i don't care how i look so yes a lot of repetitive shirts coming out of me well i'm starting i'm starting to get that way with extra large 2x so yeah yeah i've mentioned it before i i like it let's just get bigger let's just get bigger. Let's just get bigger. It'll be fine. You just get a little bigger.

And then now I'm rebuying shirts. I keep swigging the Spindrift thinking it's not going to taste fucking horrendous. And it tastes horrendous every sip. Because you're wearing the wrong glasses. Yeah. I'm still wearing Big Tron's

orange glasses. They were a hit. This is the light therapy ones that are a lot more, like, they're like 100%. Yeah, very orange. But I have been wearing, the actual blue blockers have been my pretty much driven home every day wearing

them, and depending on what time it is in the morning, if it's pitch black, I'm not going to wear them, but if it's at least the sun's coming up, I'll put them on. Just super, just, I don't know, definitely make me more alert the morning, if it's pitch black, I'm not going to wear them. But if it's at least the sun's coming up, I'll put them on. Just super, just, I don't know, definitely make me more alert. Like if it's just a hair dark, it's like, okay, I can actually see what's on the other side of the road now. But I don't know. I've been definitely opting to wear those for my regular sunglasses. So thanks again, Big Tron.

Really appreciate that. Well, you don't want to wear those too much. Like blue light is bad for you maybe in the last two hours of your day okay but like blue light exists on the uv spectrum for a reason so mostly when you're looking at screens you want to wear them yeah especially like i said about one to two hours before bed and your iphone and actually any of your mac products will have a blue light filter built in yeah i have mine that like you can i basically have it warm and i feel like at eight or nine p.m it goes to warm but it's still yeah it's it in comparison to having these fuckers on though it's like it's like i'm still seeing a lot of blue yeah um i have a sack

guys oh is it uh is it a trim sack or is it uh you know is it a canadian full monty you know just un un unkempt sack okay so i have i'm actually i cut it open earlier i got my um oh blood everywhere i got my uh fancy uh blade with a uh ram's horn that i used to open it because that's my desk knife and i actually haven't looked in it yet. This comes from Big Scott. Big Scott. Yeah, Big Hot sent me this one. I don't know what's in it yet, so we're going to find out together. How large of a sack do you have there, Joe? It's a big box.

Substantial. But it's light. It's very, very light. I'm going to try and not look. Okay. I'm going to find the letter first. I see what's in there. There's a letter. Okay, we to find the letter first. Alright, I see what's in there. There's a letter. Okay, we'll get the letter first. Nice.

I've kind of seen what's in there, but I don't have any details. Who dat? Oh, look who it is. We got a looky, Lou. Alright, so. Just in time for a sec. We have a voyeur that just showed up to look at Joey's sack. Big Tron joined just for a sec so when he's we we have a uh a voyeur that just showed up to look at joey sack

uh big big big tron joined just for a little visual uh section if you will now joey sack brings all the boys to the yard okay so i don't know how my my thing says but that is the dodzilla denliff dungeon nice says unpaid and underrated podcast hey joey please enjoy the dodzilla deadlift dungeon nice says unpaid and underrated podcast hey joey please enjoy the dodzilla deadlift dungeon shirts the black shirt is custom cut by me myself i fancy myself the best in the land at cutting shirts thanks for introducing me to all these crew members this last year as well as having me on the podcast thanks for the hours of chatting with other people that, even though I've never met, most I now consider friends. All due to your podcast. July is going to be one to remember.

Big Joey, I expect a deadlift PR pulled while wearing one of these. Keep your head on a swivel at the Lift Hard Live Easy meet, brother. I have a sneaky RKO with your name on it. And he has an unpaid or underrated with us. Unpaid or underrated. Wearing a or underrated wearing a massonomic singlet to a massonomics powerlift is that like wearing a kiss tea to a kiss concert so i'll give you guys all a chance to answer that keep up the great work scott dodds aka dodzilla big hot and the first supporter number one he also sent me some stickers from the Deadlift Dungeon

because him and I have joked about how I always joke that powerlifters call everything their dungeon. No, those are probably plate snack sticker stickers. We're not 100%, but we'll go ahead and say they are. And, you know, go ahead and use code unpaid at plate snacks to get some big hot stickers. And a rookie card. Oh, sweet.

He sent me his rookie card. So let's get a look at these shirts, guys. All right. Tron to kill your audio. You got to mute yourself. Oh, sorry. Okay. So we got to turn it into big scans over here.

We got a red one. Technolo. Dodzilla Deadlift Dungeon dungeon established 2020 that's sweet yeah um i'm gonna i'm gonna hold on i'm gonna turn off this background because it's affecting yeah i'm struggling to see what you're showing us okay yeah so oh sick okay

it's got it's got dodds deadlift dungeon strongman jim he's hauling a log with some skulls on it it looks like and his logo ammonia in there nice obsidian ammonia code unpaid and also code unpaid He's hauling a log with some skulls on it, it looks like, and his logo. There's ammonia in there. Nice. Obsidian ammonia. Code unpaid.

And then also code unpaid. And then here's the black one. Oh, look at that. So it's also got dodds. Nice. Deadlifting. With his red lift hat. Look at the red lift hat.

Bastard had to throw that one in. Now that's something. He's going to be so mad when that finally wears out and he gets like so stinky with just sweat because he lifts in that thing, I think, too. Only on special occasions. Okay. He saves it. So he's kind of milking it for a prolonged life. That's smart.

And how'd that work out perfectly? Joey was just talking about having minimal fitting shirts and he just got two in the mail. Yeah, that was pretty dope. So guys, do you wear the massonomic singlet to the massonomics meet like is that i do like kiss kiss army i think i think crew is definitely greater greater than kiss army as far as like it's it's more more tight knit whereas like kiss doesn't give a fuck about the kiss army kiss isn't intermingling with the fucking kiss army uh

like we bought the tool band the tool fans for wearing tool in a perfect circle shirts to their shows i just i think it's night and day difference we're literally all friends there's 300 of us and 100 of us are gonna go show up and hang out together that's not the same we don't what is it what was uh what was the movie someone was asking me about this week uh 40 year old virgin wasn't it and they're so the scene in that is like uh putting the pussy on the pedestal i think wasn't that a scene so like that's what people do that's what that's what people do to bands we don't do that to tommy and tanner necessarily like i don't put them on a pedestal to you like they're just like they're our buddies so i don't i don't feel that's the

same thing you don't put the you don't put the tommy on a pedestal what do you think andrew i don't know the way the way keith reacted to the uh tommy shakira thing maybe um but uh i i do agree with keith though i mean that's always been a rule for it for every band you don't wear the band shirt to to the concert but i'm not going to watch tanner and tommy do anything yeah you know i like he's the same we're all going so are we all part of the band in a certain that's a good point yeah like i'm not playing guitar for kiss yeah you know maybe we're all on tambourine for just doing our little part john any input no yeah i just wanted to pop in and see if keith was still wearing the glasses but uh but yeah no you definitely we we do not uh um idolize or um purify uh uh tommy or tanner

so so definitely. Okay. So it sounds like the consensus is go ahead and wear your massonomic singlet. Well, I hope so. Cause I got one. Well, I got two now,

technically. Thank you. Big, uh, scan. All right. So that was my sack segment. Hey man,

thanks. Big Scott, big, hot, big dots. They'll rhyme. Well, I'd say before we kick big Tron off,

let's go ahead and talk about uh any feedback we got some i'm just crew everyone listening now it's been like a week and a half i think or at least a week since the song came out i've listened to it literally four or five times a day just out of like i don't know like it's it it hypes me up man i don't know like if i'm having a shitty day i'm driving home from work i'm like i just need to jam out to i'm just crew and just like completely take all the stress away. I mean, I did lift to it the other day, but that was more just for Instagram. I don't know that I can really get super pumped to it, but it's a chill song because it reminds me that like I've got this huge circle of friends.

I got my back and it's just like, I don't know. It's just it's part of something bigger than me. So that song has really been sick. I've really much enjoyed it. I hope we can get some kind of video made. I know no one has time to edit that together. I'm even thinking it'd be cool to just do a three-minute song. So just literally make up a slideshow of pictures from the last year of just crew stuff.

And even if that's the video, I don't even care. That would be worth it. Just like 50 pictures from people interacting, other crew interacting with each other. That with just the video would be easy enough to make you think. But I think it would be cool to do a legit video and really make it funny, but I don't know who's got time for that. Anybody got time for that.

Yeah. Andrew, have you listened to the song yet? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I heard the version on the podcast Tuesday, you know, without any background music. And then yesterday I listened to it with the music. And I like, I mean, I liked it a lot with the music. It builds, it kind of pumps you up, I think.

It's so over the top though i love it yeah that's why the hard part for me was like the lyrics change like every stance or whatever so then like i i keep wanting to say i'm just crew and so are you and that's only the lyrics like one time so i get it wrong like every other time i'm like i'm shocked it didn't go i'm just crew and i'm just a silly goose like that was an easy rhyme that that i think i keep singing and then looking at the lyrics going i don't think it's actually in there um well joey you you have kids so uh you'll you'll relate to this where maybe uh you know my daughter will sing a song and just kind of make up what she thinks the words are. So maybe that's what we all

can do. Tron was the visionary behind this all. And we can take it and make it our own, but that's what crew's all about. I don't know. We have the original artist here he may not appreciate such things don't mess with my art he says no i'm i'm saying absolutely the uh the more weird al takes on a weird al song you can make

the better the world will be. All right. Keith, tell me about, tell us about your thingamago there, your strongman thingamago. The meat was, so the strongman show, I think Big Chris kind of summed it up. Like I was,

I thought I was going to just eat shit on all the events or not be able to complete them or not be able to do the entry weight. But I did everything i anticipated i did i exceeded my expectations i completed everything i you know did i come in 10th out of 12 people yeah but it's my first strongman show didn't know what i was doing had literally never touched like 80% of the implements before that day so uh it was a stiff bar deadlift worked up to a small pr on that

uh hook grip which probably wasn't the smartest thing because i ended up ripping the shit out of my thumb which affected me on did you use straps at there you could but i wanted i was i i knew what i could pull and i really wanted to actually be able to say okay i didn't have a new stiff bar deadlift pr down and if i had done straps i wouldn't have counted it because i don't fucking i don't pull on straps but now that i'm now that i got out of the way and if i do another strongman thing, yeah, I looking back now, I should have just used fucking straps and not even that I could have pulled much more with straps, but I could have saved my fucking thumb. Um, cause when I had to do the farmer's carries, I dropped the fucking implement twice. One was with my right hand, which my right hand is a better, better grip, but I had a fucking bandaid and tape on it and I just was like, you know, throbbing pain. So that affected that.

Um, so dead, dead list went fine uh log uh log an actual medley was 165 for reps back and forth under a minute or at a minute i ended up getting three reps total i probably could have got a fourth i was just i was literally like i was so gassed that i was just walking back and forth to the implements everybody else was like sprinting. So I was like, I definitely lost probably 10 or 15 seconds just kind of like casually like walking and catching my breath. Stones, first time I ever picked up a stone was in warmups and it was 150 pounds. Lapped it and got it over a 50 inch bar. And then the lowest option for the weight was 200.

It was either 200 or 240. And I was like i'm gonna go to 200 and i didn't even try to actually pick it up during warm-ups well i i lapped it during warm-ups but i didn't want to like blow my wad and try to go over the bar with it if i if that's all i had because i just had no clue what i'd be able to get um so i ended up being second on stones and i didn't want to wear tacky which worked out good because the the thing wasn't that tacky it didn't have a bunch of tacky on it because I wasn't just familiar with how tacky works and just gets all over you and shit I wasn't trying to deal with that uh so I got the first rep super super like surprised I got it and like I don't know like like seven or eight seconds threw it over got one more was very surprised and then like my lats and my back just kind of

locked up and I was like yeah I'm good I had 30 seconds left and I definitely could have got one or two more reps if I like was feeling good, but I wasn't feeling good. So I was like, I was like, yep, I'm good. Thanks, guys. So finish that up. That went into the farmer's carry and who's the felt medley farmer's carry was 200 a hand. The who's the felt was 220. It was like down and back with you know one and then down back with the other like i don't know 30 50 feet something like we call it 40 feet uh

dropped the drop the farmers uh because of my hand will be enough fucked up but they had a rule of like as long as you dropped it in like the first like five feet they'd let you pick it back up but if you dropped it like halfway down they you know it was pretty much over uh so they let me finish that and then i dropped it like as i was crossing the finish line too and i was like oh they didn't count that because like the one hand was definitely over or like the one implant was over but the other one kind of like slid over as i was falling forward but they're like yeah yeah you're good and then i just fucking literally just picked up the husafelt and like super easy surprisingly but then like kind of waddled my fat ass down down with it when everyone else was like sprinting

so when i like watched my buddy's videos after the fact and like look fuck like I'm stronger than some of you guys because like I literally outperformed you and all these other events and then like you literally just like sprinted when I had to like could barely walk down so I was super interesting to see like kind of like empowered and how you can be really good at one and kind of suck at the other and all that so like seeing that play out and strongman was interesting because I've never actually like I think I went and helped my buddy at one but i've never really like paid attention like an amateur strongman um but it was a blast it was fun i think they

ended up raising like almost 10 grand for the guy's charity too so that was uh if anyone had donated to that really appreciate that and i can definitely see myself doing it again um like that level like i'm not i'm not gonna try to like sign up for like, probably like regular strongman shows where the, uh, the, the novice class weights are probably out of my reach or like right at the peak, but they're going to this particular show, there's a lot of younger people that do it. So they keep the novice weights like doable. Um, and they were like right in my wheelhouse of what I could do. So, um, as far as what I'm going to implement going forward in my training, I think I'm going to keep some kind of clean and press. I can actually clean and press in my basement just barely.

So I might keep that in as like an athletic overhead press versus just like a static overhead press just to kind of get like a little bit of fun cardio, if you will. But yeah, and my buddy Chris, other crew destroyed his, you know, he I he won everything and would definitely not be allowed to do novice again so he's uh you know gotta go play with the big boys next time well good for you man and congrats on raising that money for that that's uh it's a good reason to do anything right absolutely yeah well i watched all your videos on instagram of of you doing doing all the events. I thought it was pretty cool. I've always sort of wanted to kind of try that out. And it was just neat seeing somebody who I consider might be, you know, similar level to me, just not knowing anything about it, go out there and truly compete at it.

I thought it was cool, man. Thanks, man. I was definitely a power lifter out of water, basically. I was a fish out of water there for sure. Because they're a very close-knit group. And all the dudes knew each other for the most part. Like the veterans, at least. Which is similar to power lifting.

It's just there didn't seem to be much of an overlap. I didn't see a single... I saw one other dude that I knew from power lifting. Other than that, it was just like a whole new crowd for me, which is weird to like, no, there's this whole other fitness community in, in, in Rochester. That's like, aren't powerlifters like, okay, that's kind of cool. So I can like expand my horizons a little bit and, you know, make new connections and still fitness, uh, adjacent, well, powerlifting adjacent, if you will. Yeah yeah i remember watching your video and just yelling get your hands over that rock because you get the first stone you lifted you still tried to hug it a little without and you weren't going over yeah and all i remember is being terrified

i was going to tear my bicep i've only lifted stones once i'm not like some like expert but i was just like oh no he's gonna hurt himself oh no oh no and then you were fine that's why i remember watching that i definitely have a goal so that one was 200 and they have a 240 i'm gonna go and do a day pass one time when i train with my buddy there i'm gonna i'm fucking i'm getting that goddamn like i'm loading that 240 no matter what like this this year like i think i have that in me like i can i load I load more than two 40 or fuck? I don't know, but two 40 is maybe doable. All right. Dope. Good work.

Yeah. Uh, I want to rate last week's episode, the bells of steel episode. Yeah. With the guy who's Andrew, did you catch it, Andrew?

Oh yeah. Yeah. KK Vaughn, I believe. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, yeah. Kavon, I believe. Thank you, Kavon. Yeah, so I like Kavon. He's always been really, really good to the Home Gym community.

gym community. You know, back when the Garage Gym Reviews Facebook group was somewhere that was fun to be, Kayvon would come in and he would always be very positive and, you know, give us

glimpses as to what they were working on and such. I was somewhat disappointed that Tommy has listened to the new Blink-182 album. I was hoping that he could take that a little bit longer. And I also

was thinking that I was going to deduct either a shuffle or a nano for them not knowing, especially a Canadian not knowing about Boxing Day. However, because

in 2020 when I got a flat bench from Bells of Steel and reviewed it on Garage Gym Review's Facebook group, he saw it and decided that they would send me a shirt for free i'm gonna give it five ipod are we doing touches are we doing click wheels

massonomic gyms ipod ipod touches yeah i think joey got confirmation that they had a little bit of everything so yeah stick with everything that nanos touches yeah click wheels we're we're crew we touch each other when we're here. Yeah, I didn't see any of the special edition U2 version of the click wheel, the black and red one. I mean, that one was pretty rare. Because nobody fucking wanted it. No. They gave me that song on my iPhone. The whole album.

Yeah, I was like, I can't get that to go away. They're like, congratulations, here's this for free. And we're like, eh. It's like, no one ever really wanted bono come on yeah i feel like i feel like everyone's talked about that and like it was pre me ever having an iphone so i'm just like oh yeah i remember that no i didn't have an iphone yeah it was that was my first that was actually my first uh i didn't have an iphone at the time it was my first ipod because i've talked about it before how i had android phone and ipod and then one day was like i'm sick of carrying two things and yeah they literally they forced it on you on with every software with that one software update

and then you had to go and like remove settings to get rid of it it was pretty stupid sounds super annoying uh i enjoyed last week's episode um anything that you know talks about the twins you know it's it's fun and memorable um kvon didn't sell me on buying anything from bells of steel though he just like not nothing against him he just he seemed like he had no i don't know if he was just super tired but he had like no passion about his company or what he does for a living and definitely made it sound like it's just like something that he just fell into and like begrudgingly is doing which i don't want to buy equipment from someone that looks at his company like that so i will probably never buy anything from him specifically for that episode so for that and having you know me avoid anything

from bells of steel i'll go ahead and give tomm Tanner and the Mastodonics episode five iPod touches. All right. So hardcore disagree. I buy a lot of stuff from Bells of Steel. I have a great, a great fat bench from them. My first power bar was from them. I've got crash mats from them. They make very good, low cost, high quality stuff.

Yeah, I've heard that. I've been to the Toronto showroom, and I was the only one there. And I don't know, like, I guess I'm not as into this as you two might be, but their showroom is legitimately, you walk in and they go, oh yeah, there's the gym. And you get to go just work out it's pretty cool and you just like they're like we don't care just touch everything lift everything and like that's the coolest showroom i've ever been to and uh actually when

i bought the fat bench i walked in and i was like i want this and the guy was like we're out of stock and then i was like oh okay i'll just investigate and buy it online and he was like okay hold on we have one it's because it wasn't released yet they sold it to me two days before it was released oh that's cool and um it's a gen two or something too you probably got like a better version than what you would have had on the floor model yeah it's a great bench their bare steel power bar is fantastic all of that said i don't disagree with your assessment i don't think kvon was that too amped to be the owner of a 20 million dollar home gym supplier um but that could also just be him trying not to be i'm the guy that owns a 220 million dollar

like like he could have just been humble trying to be humble or even exhausted because he also like yeah you don't get to get there by accident right um so yeah i don't disagree with your assessment there but i would say don't let that get in the way of going to a belt you come up here because it's up here right and that will come to your gym then you come up to the bells of steel showroom we'll do a video up here steve wants to go because he wants their pillars um he so him and i have been planning to go there he actually um left a comment on their facebook and tagged massonomics and massonomics responded with hey thanks big steve and he was just like so now i'm gonna have a bunch of people wondering who the fuck big steve is on the bells of steel page yes i thought that was pretty funny um so with all of that said

uh five five massonomomics GM iPod touches. Nice. And I will prolong this a little bit more. I have, I have seen Bells of Steel stuff at the Arnold and at home gym con. I don't know. I just, I wasn't overwhelmed. It seemed very like kind of right between Titan and below rep. Well, way below rep.

And then like right on par with titan but just like you know canadian titan which but that's i mean that's a good market though because titan sells a lot of shit so uh but now they now they do design in canada but they build in china right so they they're not they're not made it's not the strength of canada let's not confuse that yeah right um yeah i've i've Kayvon on other podcasts discuss that, you know, building overseas and that he's interested in giving people jobs, not necessarily any sort of person from a specific country jobs. That doesn't necessarily bother me. I do tend to, you know, most of my gym

was built buying overseas produced products so that I could actually, uh, afford things to start. And I am slowly transitioning more to, you know, American made products. And that's my goal,

but I do like bells of steel. I think Keith, I think your assessment at the beginning was correct. That it was sort of the titan of Canada. But I really like a lot of the new products that they are releasing. I think they are moving into a more premium space. Yeah, that bench I have, it's wonderful. And, you know, like I've had Steve has his bench. He's come up to my house and he was just like, I don't know if I like the fat bench. And he actually ended up really enjoying it.

So, yeah. When I'm at home gym con this spring, I will check. I'll give a little more of a deep dive into their stuff. And then if anyone else wants to join me at home gym con, go ahead use a code unpaid to save 10% on your tickets for this year. And that's, that's really cool. I know you kind of downplayed it in our text thing, but I was like, is that a limited time?

Cause of course it is. It's a, it's a ticket ticket purchase, but like that's really dope, you know, saving some money off of your, your ticket. I'm not driving to no French,

like Indiana, any time of the year. And actually you've been watching reacher yes i'm up today yeah french like is in reacher did you did you not i posted um oh no i sorry i didn't i did not post it to massonomics i posted it to my home gym group that i'm in there with like the guy that oh that created home gym con and it was the really fucking french look fucking americans and yeah i, I literally posted that. And that was really funny.

Yeah, I saw that and thought of Home Gym Con and then of you. That's good stuff. I think of you and Home Gym Con. So yeah, Reacher is definitely one of the best shows on TV right now. If you're not watching it, it's fucking. Yeah, watch it. Very don't. Don't let Tom Cruise like the movies.

If you didn't like the Tom Cruise movies, don't don't let that sway your opinion of watching the Amazon Reacher show. Especially if you're a book fan, they're so good. It's such a good show. Agreed. Alright, what's next? The Massanomics YouTube video from this week. I don't know if it... I told Andrew

we were going to talk about it, so I think he had a chance to watch it. If not, he can just lie and make something up. What did you think of Tanner and Tommy react to a 2015 or whatever? It was an 8 or 9 year ago video, so 2023 minus 8 or 9 years.

I think one of them was 2014. I love it. I love seeing them or I love seeing Tanner like that, especially because he's changed so much, but he hasn't, if that makes any sense. his silliness is still there yeah I really enjoyed it I was hoping that they would

tip into the Kodoba challenge and see him eat those burritos I still would like to see him as an almost 40 year old-old going to Cadova now and try to eat three burritos. I'd like to see that as a new YouTube video.

That sounds like an upset song waiting to happen. Well, I might do it when I'm there. I don't know. But yeah, I enjoyed it. when I'm there. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, I enjoyed it. It just makes me laugh. Nice. It just makes me feel like that sort of stuff really reminds you of just the crap you did when you were younger.

Ten years ago, all the weird stuff you thought when you're going out to the gym and doing things. Yeah. Well, yeah. We were all going west side back then, right? Now, would you say that Tanner's deadlift lockout has improved in the last decade? Because he didn't lock out a single one of those fucking deadlifts in that video. And he even acknowledged it. But I was like, I was waiting for it. Is he not going to acknowledge the elephant in the room that he is like soft knee and like with

like a 20 bend in his knees all these lifts i was like so he definitely called himself out so kudos to uh being uh self-observant on that and uh giving yourself shit for that uh my i think my favorite part was when they they mentioned uh they actually made like him holding up the banana like the the thumbnail and he was like yeah when they saw it live for the first time they're like oh this is a meme like like someone had clipped this little one second thing and made it a meme and i was like so that was me but it wasn't even the same video so there must be multiple like 10 year old videos with him holding up a banana looking like a dildo like because i've been i had to scroll back like 2 000 pictures to find that from when i screenshotted it like three years ago,

I think, or two years ago. And then I posted it in the thread today too. And I watched it and it was not the same video. He's wearing a red shirt and one and a black shirt and the other. And the one bananas got a real big bend in it. And the other one's just a straight shaft. So that was hysterical though.

With you and fucking bananas. Stop looking at dicks. No, I meant Tanner. Likeanner like oh yeah i don't that's the that's so one of the funniest things in bad santa was what's with you and fucking sandwiches right so what's with you and fucking bananas kind of makes sense to me well there wasn't a catheter in that banana so oh that's yeah so keith felt real comfortable staring at it to hearken well i think we've i don't know if we can probably skip the last one there and talk about it another week once you if you ever get a chance to see it because we think feel like we're

going i won't get to see it until it so yeah he wants to talk about the iron claw movie we don't have to oh okay i can't i haven't seen it. I want to see it. It's in there. I keep staring at it going, fuck, I want to see that movie because I know all about them. Yeah, I haven't seen it either. The only thing I would say, my expert opinion having not seen this film,

is make sure you also watch the um wwe documentary on wccw to get a to get that perspective of the von eric's and also watch the dark side of the ring episode yes of the von eric's yeah i'll have to do that yeah i did like i did the wikipedia deep dive and i was like oh fuck but i didn't uh yeah it's it's tragic and actually so your next thing is actually also about uh tragedy and wrestling um so everybody's been joking about what my tattoos are i haven't posted them on social media i think only scott my wife and my co-workers have actually seen these. So they say hurt and heal. So Bray Wyatt the Fiend had these written on his gloves in this font.

And he died back in November. I think we talked about it when it happened. He's 36 years old. He kind of was an inspiration to me in a sense. He brought me back into wrestling after almost a decade away. He was very open and loving to his fellow wrestlers. He brought back horror into wrestling, or weird horror we call it, where things weren't exactly scary, but they were unsettling. And he brought that into wrestling. A weird core, we call it. Where things weren't exactly scary, but they were unsettling.

And he brought that into wrestling. And it made me a little more comfortable with my appreciation for that kind of thing. Yeah, and then he just up and disappeared for a while. And then he came back. And then he went away again. And then he died while he was away. And so we had him for a brief time.

And I've always wanted a tattoo to to kind of you know show my love of of all the work windham did his real name was windham rotunda he was um he was uh erin r shyster's kid and i've always wanted knuckle tattoos and so just the hurt and heal kind of came because the Fiend was there. Yeah, he was a horror villain. He was scary. He was all these things. But at the same time,

he was a representation of every decision you've ever made. Every decision. It was long-term storytelling. Every decision you've ever made has the possibility to do one or the other, to hurt or to heal, whether it's yourself or the person you're making the decision with or for or against.

And The Fiend was this weird concept where that was his role. He would come in and he would essentially reset wrestlers. He reset John Cena, he reset Kane, he reset all of these people back to this character that was more beneficial for them. Because ultimately, your hands are capable of so many things. And when you have to make that decision to hurt or to heal somebody, you need to make the right decision. Neither is wrong, but it's right at the time. So that is officially why I have his tattoos on my hands.

That's the big reveal. I'll post a picture, I guess, on Instagram. Well, we have this game we like to play. No, that was cool. I enjoyed that. I wasn't really sure what you were going to be, and you definitely took it a little more serious goose than we thought. But if I was going to get tattoos on my hands,

I'd probably have to have a good reason to do it. So it sounds like you had one. But also, am I going to punch you with the hurt hand, which is the right hand? Or am I going to punch you with the left hand? And actually, one of my coworkers was like, did you get honk on one of them and heal? so she made the joke before anybody in the crew did that's the right hands for honking it's good stuff no that's cool i i yeah and i'll agree i i definitely agree in the sense that time where actual storytelling has sort of left professional wrestling,

he was able to create these long, as you're saying, these long storylines that you were genuinely interested in. Yeah. storylines that you were genuinely interested in transitioning especially remember when they tried to bring him in as

Husky Harris transitioning from some sort of character like that to what he made out of The Fiend and with the entrance that was sort of to what he made out of The Fiend. And, you know, with the entrance that was sort of reminiscent of a sort of Undertaker feel to it, but also a Mankind sort of take on it i yeah but way scarier yeah so he he the fiend was bray wyatt's alter ego and he came for those of you guys that don't know and i encourage you to go watch there's

a good hour-long video uh on his first entrance we had never seen the Fiend do an entrance. We had just seen him attack people. He came in carrying, so Bray Wyatt always carried a lantern. Because he would light the way. That was his thing. And then he became the Fireflies. Remember, kids, I will always light the way but then when the fiend came in that lantern had bray wyatt's head decapitated head wrapped around it in wrestling because it was the idea that i was he

was he was the alter ego he would be the one to kill the nice bray wyatt it was it was it was insanity and it was just like i said said, it just, it did a lot for me. Hand tattoos are never actually that permanent. These are eventually going to wear away. But I thought for now... Because it's such a, there's so much movement in your fingers.

Yeah, it's a high traffic place. Gotcha. Cool. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks, Andrew. Yeah, whoever has this game would like to play do you want to do a little Mastinomics sponsor read for us my friend

do you have anything ready for us yeah you know what speaking of that that reminds me of something reminds me of Mastinomics yeah so originally you know I was, so originally, you know, I was racking my brain,

you know, what hasn't been done? You know, Big Jeff had this ad that really harkened to a lot of the older jokes. Big Jen had the best poem, I think, that you could have for

massonomics. poem, I think, that you could have for Masonomics. And, you know, just a couple weeks ago, Big Steve talked about why he supports Tanner and Tommy because of how great they are. And what I wanted to talk about was why you should join crew. Now, if you're listening to this, you probably are crew. You probably listen to Masonomics already. But if not, I think you should join crew. It's $3 a month. It's the best community.

Everybody is accepting of each other. We don't get too serious. Everybody stays on Joey's silly spectrum in some way, shape, or form. when I was thinking about joining crew, which I made a big mistake and joined, I think, a couple weeks after the membership cards were sent out. And

my whole thing was I was, like Tanner in that open powerlifting shirt, pretty cheap and didn't know if I wanted to make the commitment. Then I saw it's $3 a month. So for $3 a month, I think that it's worth it,

but maybe you are, uh, looking for some other financial sort of, uh, incentives. So this is a pen to paper situation. I think you'll find out that you cannot afford not to join crew if you're perhaps you are thinking about making your first big massonomics purchase well when you

join crew you receive a discount code that discount code alone can pay for a month of membership. Heck, you could probably work it out like Big Tron style and get yourself about $3.50 in return. On top of that, you get early access to drops, exclusive access to that sweet Massonomics gear. Finally, as crew, you will receive bonus mystery gifts, also exclusive to crew. These gifts are only available to crew joined when sent out. And may I say that one is being prepared right now and Tanner is slowly and methodically drawing a line in the

sand, and I would bet you want to be on the right side of that line when the gifts are sent out. Don't be like me. Join crew and get that gift. So at this moment, stop what you were doing. Go to massnomics.com slash join and join the crew. I promise we are not rude.

Well, Ryan is. Well, yeah, everybody except the injured guy. Well done. Well done, Andrew. We appreciate that, buddy. It might be too late for your family, but it's not too late. You know, when I was going through the back catalog, I remember that being read and then saying Nintendotron. And when Tron joined and it said Nintendotron, I was like, I've heard that before. That was a review.

So when he read the review, I was like, it is him. It might be too late for my family, but it's not too late for yours. Who does that? That was good. That was a good ad read, man. That was a good ad read. With that said, let's kick everybody out.

Get our guest in the horn. I have a lot I want to talk about. Alright. I'm going to let you take the ring. everybody out get our guests on the horn i got i have a lot i want to talk about all right all right unless you take the brain uh well no don't because it'll go not in the right direction yeah big andrew is that you yeah that's me can you hear me yeah yeah we'll let you in um yeah you're live on the unpaid and underrated um podcast the podcast about massonomics for crew by crew um let's dive right in we should dive right in you guys want to dive right in do it has it been long enough as can we dive right in i'm surprised we're not diving in right now dive right in at any point do you want

hey so let's jump in what brought you to Massonomics? How did you get here? It's interesting because I've known of Massonomics since probably 2019. I remember seeing Rookie Card and Versus pop up on Instagram. I remember seeing Basement Brandon in the background. His lift banners. I think the first time that Basement Brandon released

a banner, it was sold through the Mastanomics shop. It was, 100%. I went there. To be honest, I didn't listen to podcasts. I never listened to podcasts. I was an audiobooks guy. So it didn't really resonate with me to look into it. look into it. And then around the end of 2021,

early 2022, I thought, oh, I had been listening, I started listening to the Garage Gym Experiment podcast. And... Have there been any good guys in that episode have there any been any uh any really good guests that you've heard over the years on that one yeah my favorite is this guy

named keith because the first time i saw him on there he was drinking a ton of beer and big jake big jake's face was just hilarious when keith was keith i was so nervous he drank a few beers started throwing out f-bombs about uh about uh texas power bar not getting their shit together because they can't make a 29 power and jake's eyes were like rolling he's like come on keith and i'm like this is the fucking best right here I'm gonna go back and watch that it was hilarious but anyways

I was like I'm listening to podcasts now I should give these guys a try and I did the thing where I chose certain guests and I would cherry pick around. And there was a time early on where I was like,

I'm just going to go to the guest and listen to them. And the more and more, you know, I drive a lot, so I can't really skip. And the more and more I started listening to it i was like well i think this is great because i kind of feel a little bit of a kinship with joey in the sense that i don't know a lot of these guests like i don't know who the hell they are i couldn't do that and that's one of the things i always kind of laugh when you guys talk about that it's like well go pick a guest you a guest you think you might want to hear from. And I was like, nope.

I don't know any of these people. I would have gone to the fucking Gladiator guy. He would have been the only. Oh, yeah. Worst fucking audio ever. Jesus Christ. I don't know who these people are. I don't know who these people are i don't know who these people are but then i realized like the tanner and tommy are

talking to them and they're not asking them questions about like you know being tough and doing this shit you know they're you know like what's your fat hack you know what what are you going to to eat i was like, maybe these guys actually are funny. And then I started listening. I remember listening to the first episode after they had gone back to the Arnold and listening to that episode.

I remember starting it thinking like, is Tommy just talking about them going on a trip? Is this going to... And then I got home is Tommy just talking about like them going on a trip? Is it, you know, is this good? And then I got home. I was like,

gosh, that was entertaining. Those guys are funny. So, uh, it was about that time. And I've gone back. I've,

I've listened to the back catalog. Uh, I've listened to every single one. Nice. Uh, and I, I just And I just love it. It's so funny. That's awesome.

I'd love to hear that. So if anyone wants to find you, where are people going to find you on Instagram? We'll close with it, obviously. But you're one of those guys that likes having not a name on their Instagram and different stuff. So help everybody put the pieces together. They're probably already friends on Instagram, but now they're going to know who you are. Yeah. So my Instagram is Clawtron.

C-L-A-W-T-R-O-N. It's a strange name I created the Instagram specifically for because I'm really into collecting vintage toys, specifically space toys from the 80s and that's a space toy from the 80s Clautron

so Instagram was started to I was going to take pictures of my vintage toys and put up there i haven't taken one picture of a toy and put it up there the whole time it has just transitioned to me training and then it's just got to the point where it's like well that's the name that i have on there that's's what people know me as, the few people that follow me. No, that makes sense. So I'm like, just keep it.

What's your Discord? Is it the same or is it more your name? Just so everyone can find you there? Yeah, on Discord, it's Big Garrison Andrew. Okay. So it's just my last name before my first. And that kind of just harkens back to when i joined discord i didn't realize like how cool the um the whole crew community was i was like oh i

don't know there might be another andrew i don't want to step on their toes or whatever um you know because the one andrew allowed the the yeah well the only other discord i had been in was the what is that that's that home gym discord and that thing was just that's pretty toxic yeah that thing was just chaos and uh you know i don't hang out there anymore yeah i will i'll be a voyeur in there periodically but i don't i very seldom post anything in there because just a lot it's like tiktok it's just a bunch of young assholes uh all right um so i think you already mentioned you're you're a southern california guy right so yeah are there no cow is there any crew out there near you you've been able to meet up with or

anything yeah uh mofo and i've met up oh sweet um a couple times uh so i met mof do you want to go ahead and share his uh full name and a social security card and you know pictures of his family and stuff it's a fucking guy doesn't exist for everyone listening he lives in california doesn't exist all i all i have are pictures of his feet i'm sorry all we have oh god i have his footprint uh but uh yeah so i i met mofo before he was crew at um at a juggernaut event interesting uh so we were training at this juggernaut thing and i was wearing this shirt he came over and was talking to me and he's like yeah i love massonomics too and like i don't know if i should join crew because i he's this fucking guy says i don't have time to be on discord and i said i don't discord more than anybody else yeah i say

to him well i'm pretty busy too i don't get to be on there as much as I would like, but for $3 a month, I feel that I get more entertainment from Masonomics than I do for a lot of other services that I do pay for. And I feel like that's fine. Have you ever, I just sorry to interrupt but no it's fine i'm doing it on purpose uh i hate people do that we're like i don't mean to interrupt you fucking do like you did it on purpose while i was talking but like have we ever sorry somebody that's me at work today and it just it just irked me they were just i just have now and now i'm gonna interrupt joey is this interruption gonna hurt or heal the podcast oh just somebody was like i just have a quick question and i was like i'm i'm just helping another person they're like oh yeah can you just explain everything about your

job to me really quickly and i'm like what no uh anyway have we ever like if somebody comes in that doesn't talk very often like there was a comment in have any of us been like where have you been where you haven't been very active like have we ever done that like somebody somebody commented today i didn't even know who they were but i just started talking to them like they'd always been there like i don't think i even knew who that person was and i was just like we we've we've had a few voyeur like i don't think big caden talked that much in discord big big colton doesn't talk a ton in discord yeah i mean there's we've definitely out of the 30 plus guests like there's at least five or six of them that have like maybe commented a hundred things over the course of their entire existence there so

yeah no we're we're not assholes we're not gonna judge people for how limited they are it's just you know we might have to deep dive on the podcast a little harder because we might not know you as well so yeah oh and like the worst thing i think we've ever said is wow it sure is active in here like that so sorry it was just because you were like you were just saying that he just doesn't have the time to be on discord like just check in once a week for all we care yeah we're still gonna welcome you in yeah well i mean i didn't even know i didn't know it was the same guy and then he had made a comment that he was in southern california i'm like oh i am too he's like yeah we've actually met and he put up the

photo he you know sent me the photo the thing was like oh yeah like you're like the one person i got along with at this point so uh yeah so mofo and i went to see uh we saw big toby at a strongman event in uh coachella uh so we met big toby there uh he's a big strongman guy too he's always posting strongman stuff. Yeah. And Toby's one of those guys that I've had, you know, I've actually had DMS and stuff back and forth with, and I, you know, I really get along well with him too. I met one of the Davids him and I went to the Strength Co. Turkey Pool So him and his wife showed up And we had a great time at the Turkey Pool

In November The American David Yeah, the American David I haven't met the British David He was supposed to come to that Strongman event But he didn't So MoFo did some weird stuff With his shirt there which i can't disclose oh oh man no

no no i don't think i want to hear that story everyone dm mofo asking him about his his shirt now because that's that that left well to talk back there too does that i mean that kind of makes sense though because like the davids are the same guy so they really couldn't be at the same place at the same time right no okay so like i may be confused here which one of them shit on the side of the mountain british british david okay and that wasn't big andrew whoa which time are you talking uh-huh you might've dropped the GPS pin. Oh yeah. Oh,

you jumped ahead. That's a good one. Yeah. I jumped. I was like, wait, no, I knew there's a shit on the side of a mountain story here that I think we've,

I think it's fucking wild that we can talk about this with more than one person on this podcast. Yeah. Uh, so in in one of my attempts to be to be healthy i thought that if i just chewed sugar-free gum all the time i wouldn't get hungry and eat a lot uh the fake sugar does not do well with my stomach no It does not. No, that's such a bad idea. You know, when I'm talking about like all the dumb stuff we may have done a decade ago, this is one of those. My wife and I would go hiking.

We'd go hiking in this place, Crystal Cove. So it's in Orange County by the coast. You can see the ocean as you're hiking. It's really pretty. And I'm chewing my gum, being very healthy. And suddenly my stomach is just like, uh-oh, this is not good. The problem with this is that this is not out in the middle of nowhere. There are tons of people around.

this is not out in the middle of nowhere. There are tons of people around. So, you know, we have to like, uh, go off on this really, uh, not used trail.

Maybe it wasn't a trail. When we go down, I find a decent spot. I'm like, okay, I'm going to walk off here and go. But there's a lot more emergency behind this. Obviously.

You weren't casually putting in a stroll to go shit in the middle of the woods. Yeah. So, yeah, I have to go take care of business, come back and realize that in my squatting and whatnot, I had dropped a GPS pinpoint at the exact location that this happened. Were you on your phone in the forest? No, I didn't have, I mean, this was before I had a smartphone. I had a whole, like a whole handheld GPS.

Like you're like playing like Angry Birds and accidentally dropped the GPS. No, I, uh, no, I have, I have like this handheld GPS, you know, and I come back and I explained to Emily how intense this whole ordeal was. And she's like, what did you wipe with you wipe with i was like let's just say that the underwear is nope it was left there i i i know i'm sorry if that was embarrassing or anything it's just it's wild that i think more than one of us have that kind of conversation you know i i conversation. You know, I don't... At the time, it was pretty wild. I was a little

bit embarrassed by it, but my job, I spend a good amount of time in the field. So there have been a lot more occasions where I'm by myself that are very

similar to this, that I've just had no choice. You have dude wipes with you and you're not having to go through your underwear. I'm not prepared, man. No, no.

You think after like, okay, once, once is forgiven. What is it? Yeah. By the time you're done at the third time, that's your fault

fool me twice I can't be fooled again now it's good that you brought up your job because I'm going to get this right out of the way right early that's the thing I don't want to get into because I think that's the coolest shit I have ever heard

I have a couple questions about it. So you're an accomplished flintknapper? Yes. Tell us what that means. That word would sound threatening. Yeah.

When you brought up your knife, I thought the only problem with it was that there wasn't a stone blade on that. Yeah, I thought yeah yeah so so um i'm an archaeologist my specialty is stone tools and stone to stone tool creation uh so flint knapping is the process of creating stone tools. And so, I hit rocks together to create arrowheads, blades, knives, what have you. The whole process or reason for learning this is so that I can look at the waste product.

So, the tool goes away you know what whatever culture it is they take the tool away all you're left is with the trash archaeologists we study trash and you know what i i will say um and what i almost went into was cultural studies same yeah same we're all you're just studying trash and i again that's why i think this is so What I almost went into was cultural studies. Same. Yeah. Same. We're all, you're just studying trash. And I,

again, I did why I think this is so cool. Yeah. Yeah. So the whole, the whole thing is like, I, I make the thing.

I try to, you know, use whatever technology. Cause there's different technologies used, whatever technology they would be used, study the debitage. And that's what I did for years and years and years. So that now when I'm on a project or whatever, and I find a certain type of reduction, you know, technology, oh, this is how they're making it. Or this is the economics of it. This, this tool stone is very abundant. They have lots of it. So they're using a very

expedient, quick method of making a tool because they have a lot of it. They don't give a shit. Or, hey, this is obsidian or this is something from really rare, far away. They're using a different technology. I can tell by this this what's left here that they are actually trying to do whatever they can to maintain this tool because it maintains a sharp edge much longer so that's my specialty in terms of of uh archaeology and uh why i do the flint napping and that's to me that we don't like to talk about work very often, but I was reading through this and I was just like, this is the thing I'm going to have to like, not nerd out about a little bit.

Um, I can say that like my one anthropology teacher hated me because I just had so many questions. I wanted to talk about everything. So we're going to get that out of the way. That's about the most we're going to talking about that one that's fine i love talking about stone tools flint knapping all that stuff i don't like talking about like work the day to the day-to-day of work because it's like any it's like any job you know it's like you know there's the cool there's this cool stuff and then yeah yeah then there's forms that fill out yeah yeah which i'm trying to hit on it more like i

said like i want even if we literally talk about what you do for 30 seconds i just want everyone to like you know i think that's something we got to do i feel like we missed out on that a lot on the earlier episodes just kind of glazing glazing over what people even did and i feel like i've definitely got called out on that for a few times people saying i want to know more about this person even if it's just like like i think the the 10 000 foot view but even that go ahead no go ahead andrew no i i was gonna say i i think it's it's neat to see the the different uh professions and perspectives that are represented within our community. Yep. So then, I have a, not

an FMK, but a close to it that I think I can get out of the way now because we're talking about work. Okay. What's most effective? Stone hammer, stone arrowhead, or stone axe?

If you had to make one to be your favorite tool. What am I doing with this? Am I hunting? Killing? You tell me. Because there are different applications. Hunting. Let's go hunting.

Because obviously the stone arrow would make the most sense right yeah yeah so let's let's change let's do a stone projectile correct me please yeah so it could be an arrow it could be a tip of a spear like an atlatl type spear um i believe that would be the most effective if you want to... The goal is to eat, right? Sure. So if you want to eat, that would be the most effective. The spear? A spear point.

Whether it's on an arrow shaft or an atlatl shaft. Because that's going to get you food. whether it's on an arrow, an arrow shaft or an atlatl shaft or, um, because that's, that's going to produce, that's going to get you food, uh, a hammer and an ax. That's going to be good for close,

more close to close, like hand, like hand to hand combat. And a lot of the animals that you're going after you don't want to be involved you don't want to be close but the reason i put those in because i thought that like like if you were thinking most effective for just living in that time period oh like a hammer and an axe i think would be eating is important but so is chopping fire okay so is all right so living living in

that period i would just i would choose the hammer because i use a stone hammer to create points i use the hammer to create an axe blade so i use the stone hammer which will usually be of sandstone or some other like uh kind of kind of more softer material, uh, to hit something like chert obsidian, uh, something that, uh, sort of flakes. So the best way to describe it is if you've ever seen a BB hit glass, when you see a BB hit glass, you see that cone there, right? That's the Hertzian cone. So what you're doing is that that's the force hitting it and it's spreading out.

So what I'm doing is I'm hitting this glass like material and I'm directing that force to create a sharp edge. So if there's one tool to rule them all, it's your hammer because that hammer is used to create other tools. I think that's kind of why I asked that question. I don't know. I just, again, I got nerded out a little bit when I was like, he does what?

It's like, I need to talk about this a little bit. I think that's cool. I'll deep dive one. Keith is like, shut up, you fucking nerds. No, no, no. You talk about anything else that's okay that's okay i have a follow-up god damn it i know my my my my question of the you know uh pose that way would be like so out of those three the hammer a projectile and an axe

which one is like when made of stone is superior than made of metal or most equivalent to when compared to a metal well so let's metal will be more durable obviously stone has a sort of, in terms of projectiles, it has a good, uh, part of its brittleness is part of its, is a benefit because as it goes into an animal, it may hit a rib or something and then shatter. And then all those little pieces are in the animal,

and as it's moving around, each little piece is cutting and cutting and cutting and cutting and cutting. So in that respect, the stone does have a benefit over the metal, although the metal you could just pull out and reuse. the metal, you could just pull out and reuse. What I will say is that obsidian blades have been shown to be sharper

than surgical steel scapules and have been used instead of surgical steel scapules in certain sort of surgeries.

Have I been saying scalpel wrong my entire life? No. I may be saying it wrong. I think you forgot the word because you put him on the spot. Scalpel. Scalpel. Last word question, I promise. How abundant is obsidian?

Depends on where you are. I mean, in the great basin. So Eastern Oregon and, uh, anywhere where there's volcanoes, I mean, it's,

it's pretty abundant, uh, down here where we are, where I am in Southern California is an import type of material. But there are areas like in Eastern Oregon and Nevada where

the most common tool type is obsidian. Alright, we're going to get away from work, I promise. Like I said, I had so many things I wanted to talk to you about on that one. So, Keith, take over for me for a second. Ask him anything else.

Sorry, Andrew. I want to hear you rant about one thing that you and I probably both have extremely in common. Your wife told us you're extremely passionate about customer service and nothing makes you madder than having an experience experiencing poor customer service. And nothing makes you madder than having an experience experiencing poor customer service. And I can't say kindred spirit more than enough to that, because that's, you know, what is what instilled that feeling of just like it's customer service. You should like that's your job. Like, please be better at it kind of feeling, you know, where did that where did that come from? I spent 10 years working in a grocery store. I spent 10 years working for Vons,

which is a Safeway company. They are currently owned by Albertsons. And when I worked there, we had to do these things called mystery shops where they'd come in and there was this whole checklist and, you know, we had to go to these different classes and, you know, it's like, you don had to go to these different classes.

It's like, you don't tell them where the item is. You have to take them over and show them the item. So the mystery shopper would come in, and we'd have this checklist. And if you missed one thing, that was considered a fail. And you'd get really busted for failing. So anyways, I got this whole thing sort of beat into me. And, you know, while I was doing it, I kind of thought, yeah, this is done. good at it and uh i sort of you know joey talks a lot about uh just doing stuff to make himself laugh and i would you know i would i would do things with with the people like that come in within the guidelines of this shopping experience or whatever this customer service experience. But that would just like, just to make me laugh, you know, like I often would work in stores that were near like older retirement communities.

And, you know, we'd have these regulars that would come in and ask questions and just be sort of annoying. But the thing is like, that was their day, right? and just be sort of annoying. But the thing is, that was their day, right? And so if a certain annoying person would come in that I just got a kick out of the way that they bother people, I would say, oh, you know what? You should ask Eric over there.

And they'd be like, damn it. It would make me laugh. This is a long way of saying that I ended up embracing this sort of idea that it is your job to provide a good customer service experience to people. And, you know, when I go shopping now, it's like, you can't get, I don't know, maybe I'm starting to get really old, but it's like kids these days, it's like, they don't know how to, they don't know how to bag a grocery groceries. It's like, have these kids ever gone shopping with their mom and heard their mom complain about the meat put in with the,

uh, with the fruit, you know, things like that. My wife loses her mind every time she sees that. And she's like, motherfuckers. My wife just does it on her own.

We literally just tell people don't touch our shit. We'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's where it comes from. Long, long way of saying that uh it comes from my experience working in the grocery store and just accepting expecting people to provide to me the same level that i would provide to them if I was on in their shoes because I have been in their shoes

I I kind of agree I think that there's there's an opposite direction um when I'm training people in customer service I explain to people uh that um nobody actually remembers what you told them they only remember how they felt while you told them if you can tell somebody that you can't help them in a way that makes them feel good you've given them good customer service and and to me and and to me like that that's the end result somebody walks up and goes do you know where this thing is? But I'm not actually an employee here. I'll just go, I'm sorry, I don't work here. Let me tell you, if I did shop here, I'll send you over to this direction, blah, blah, blah.

And they're not going to go, that idiot didn't know anything. They're going to go, okay, well, he sent me in the right direction. That was nice. That's good customer service, right? But I do think there are bad customers in the world. Oh, I definitely agree. But I do think there are bad customers in the world. Oh, I definitely agree.

And I think that sometimes, I even brought one up earlier. I just have one quick question. Can you explain to me the entire process of what you do while I'm trying to help somebody else? I'm sorry, that's not a quick question. That's actually what we do here. I would love it if you would join our lineup and we will direct you. Well, that's ridiculous. I just had a quick question that's actually what we do here i would love it if you would join our lineup and we will direct you well that's ridiculous i just had a quick question and like there's a there also has to be an internal reflection of people that if you get bad customer service everywhere you go it's you oh yeah that's that's it yeah and then i'm i i will say it like i'm actually one of the people i don't get bad customer service but i'm not a pleasant customer because i'm not a pleasant

person hey how's your day great thank you oh what do you got planned for later to pay for this and leave like that's me that's not a bad customer service experience like to me because i know that that's just me i'm not here to to talk i'm here to buy my fucking energy drinks and go home like that so oh yeah i have i have plenty of stories of my you know i used to have this idea that i really enjoyed it when somebody would come up and they were angry and no matter what I was able to tell them, they went away and they seemed less, you know, they were, they, they were better. I used to be the whisperer of that too. Now, talking about the retirement community that would come in, there was this one guy who would come in and always say, well, at Ralph's they do this. Ralph's is a Kroger company. At Ralph's they would do this.

At Ralph's they would do this. And at one point I said, at Ralph's do they treat you better than the way we treat you? And he says to me, yes, they do, Andrew. Cause he was a regular customer. And I said, well,

you must treat them a lot better than the way you treat us. And he said, I'm sorry, Andrew. I didn't realize. Yeah. You know, uh,

sometimes like I, like I said before, it's that name tag. The name tag seems to make people think they can talk to you in a certain way. And I have had to actually look at people cause I don't like bullies and bullying me is one thing, right? Like I can deadlift your whole family, like whatever, like I'm not scared of you. But if you start in one of my guys, right? One of my team, I've always stepped in.

And that's when I'd be like, look, man, if this isn't the level of service you want, if you're mad that I'm taking too long with this person, do you think I'm going to run through you in two minutes? No, I'm going to be the person that takes the time to make sure you're comfortable and everything we do together is fine. If that's not the level of service you want, there's this place across the road that'll hustle you right through the lineup and give you the fastest service you've ever had. It'll be shit and you won't get what you want.

But hey, man, it'll be faster. Good for you. And then I had to write emails to some higher ups. I had to account for that one. I said, feel free to shop anywhere else, man. Go ahead. But if you don't like the service i'm giving this lady you're gonna hate the service i'm giving you it's right now andrew uh you know

in your youth when you were a stud soccer player as we've heard uh i hear you you kind of gave some some bad customer service to some of your opponents you broke three fucking guys legs over the course of your career wait you played a guy with three legs yeah me they like to think they had three legs uh is that is that factual did you do fractures from shins i'm guessing there's some femur uh what'd you do buddy well? Well, for the record, and I will say the game has gotten quite soft now, but nothing I did ever received even a yellow card. So they were all legal tackles in the day. And this one I do feel bad about. One individual, it was actually a practice, and this is on the coach, because it was my own teammate.

The coach set up a drill that should not have been set up. It was a tackling drill, and it had been raining, it was a tackling drill and it had been raining. It was muddy and, you know, typical, like sort of high school coach, you know, don't be a pussy.

Don't pull out. Don't, don't, you know, like go in hard, get stuck in all that sort of stuff. So that's, that's what she said.

Times seven. Yeah. Wait, but soccer and tackle. I'm so good. What do you mean by tackle. So that's, that's what she said. Times seven. Yeah. Wait, but soccer and tackle. I'm so good. What do you mean by tackle? Is that like, where you just kind of like sweep the leg and try to get the ball to go

out of bound? Like I'm so confused on what tackling and soccer. Yeah. So I, I was the master of the slide tackle. So I would slide in. And as long as you got the ball, you could go through the player. So you go for the ball as long as your foot hits the ball first.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's how it used to be. So my favorite thing was to slide in, get the ball, have the dude fall over. And then as he's falling over, I stand up really fast. And then he flips again. That was my absolute favorite thing to do

but anyways yeah the one drill where it was my my teammate i ended up breaking both bones in his leg um and i felt very very bad about that uh that was not a fun experience. The other couple times, they were in a game, and that's just part of the game at that time. I don't feel bad about that. They went into the tackle incorrectly. They just stuck their leg out, didn't get their body behind it,

didn't get their weight behind it. Didn't get their weight behind it. And, you know, like if you're going to go in half-assed, like you're going to get hurt. So you consider yourself a big soccer fan then too? I think your wife said you get up super early to watch some of the games that are on at like 2 in the morning or 4 in the morning. Yeah, I am. I am of certain teams and certain so uh i'm a big uh liverpool football club fan um i like to watch are those the ones that are on steroids right liver liver liver king what oh yeah yeah liverpool i didn't know where you were going with that Eat testicles

I think I heard liver king in my head Testicles are for pussies or whatever Yeah yeah real men eat pussy not testicles Or Yeah I get up early but I Don't know if that's just like also Like I get up early for work and Maybe it's like a dad thing where

That's also the time where i can sit in complete silence and darkness and drink my coffee and just like watch something you know and that's that's what i that's what i enjoy now do you call it football or do you call it soccer i go back and forth so if i'm speaking to any of my, uh, like British friends, I will not big David. He's not a friend. Did he?

No, we're, he's a good guy. We haven't made it that far yet. We'll see. It's still soccer to big David. That's good. Yeah. But,

you know, I did, I did grow up playing here right you know i'm i'm american like so like i find it very weird if i'm talking to you know my good friends that played and and stuff to be like oh remember when we were playing football it's like come on i mean played soccer you you know. That makes sense to me. Would you like to play a little fuck, marry, kill soccer players? I tried to pick a handful of

pretty famous soccer players and see what you have an opinion on. Okay. You ready? So we're going to go with FMK, Pele, or is that how you pronounce it? I'm assuming. Pele.

Yeah, Pele. So Pele, Lionel Messi, and Ronaldo. FMK. Right off the bat, we're killing Ronaldo. I dislike him. I have always disliked him. I'm glad we're making it easy for you. Yeah, that's not to say he's not

good. He is, say he's not good. He is, but he's such a little bitch. He always has been. And some of that also comes from the fact that he played for Manchester United, which I dislike. But he's just always complaining. So let's deal with the other. Pele. Pele and Messi.

Messi is so good so good pele is like revered as one of the greatest of all time if not the greatest so who am i marrying and who am i kind of one night standing here uh yeah look at it too would how would Pele hold up in today's game would he be as competitive or you know or he's just was he ahead of his time could he hold up because he was more like 80s or 70s wasn't he or when was he yeah um 80s no your time periods are not off. I still say I have to marry Pele because he did a lot for the sport. I know Messi's doing a lot for the sport in America, coming here and playing. But, you know, when I'm thinking like that messy, sort of the,

the young hot thing right now. Right. So how would they look? How would he, how would he be looked upon in 20 years? Kind of, I don't know. I think he's good answers there.

So, um, out of the soccer. So would you say, okay, so here's another one, kind of a followup to this. So favorite soccer player of all time and best, kind of a follow-up to this. So, favorite

soccer player of all time and best soccer player of all time. Two separate answers if it is two separate answers. Okay. I think for the best, I probably would have to just stick with Pele. Okay.

But my favorite, and maybe this is my age or, you know, when I really became aware of what's going on and watching it, is Steven Gerrard from Liverpool. I think he is my favorite player of all time. So he was active from, I think, early 2000s to about 2014 to 2015. Don't really fact check me on that stuff. 2015. Don't really fact check me on that stuff.

But just the way he controlled games in the midfield and the goals that he scored and everything. I always enjoyed watching him play. And then for a few years he came and played on the LA Galaxy team that's near us. And I got a chance to see him play there. Oh, that's cool. You can say that's pretty cool that your favorite player, you can actually say like, oh, I saw this dude.

Like he was probably like three years past his prime. But I still saw this human that I consider my favorite player of all time in person. Even if it was like 500 feet away that's still pretty cool a lot of people can't say that about their favorite athlete so that is uh it's pretty that's something to kind of you know something you always remember for sure so now if you were tight on funds and you needed to uh get some really expensive soccer tickets do you I hear you have a whole collection of stuff that you kind of uh sell off every now and then when you when you need some new funds you got some uh and is that accurate yeah so i mentioned briefly about my uh vintage

toy collection so it is heavily focused in uh vintage star wars action figures i have a lot of of them multiple version or I have multiples of each one that was released so I have two or close to two complete collections and then a bunch of other just sort of random things that are rare because my collections are primarily loose figures uh with weapons. That makes them more worth more, a lot more. And, but I do have a few that are in the package. So when I decided that I wanted about 500 pounds of strength, co plates,

I was thinking about how am I going to get funds? That's like, I sold it. So that's a good way.branded, isn't it? Yeah. I sold, what was it, like six or seven figures. Wow. And now, you know, met big grant and got my strength plates. Do you have seller's remorse of any of those?

Or were they all duplicates that you, or even triplicates in your case, possibly? Yeah, they were some were triples and then some were things that were in the package that like since i had picked up the price of this stuff has gone up so much you know when i was really collecting it was early 2000s and you know things i got for 60 bucks or worth three or four hundred dollars now i really got to check out my collection because i have a lot of that shit from the re-release right um like i have a lot in my gym currently i have the kind of the 12 inch dolls of luke skywalker um the sand guys whose name is fucking escaping tuscan raiders and darth vader weapons and all in the in the package opened but still in the package and i still have a bunch of little like tiny figurines too i better take a look at that shit because like they're just

sitting there collecting dust and so is that the stuff that was released post 97 yes you're talking about i have some of those and i have some of the stuff from the 60s but that shit i don't know where it is yeah so the older stuff there's a lot of money in the older stuff particularly weapons uh like you could sell certain weapons. You could sell for more than if it was with the figure by itself. So it's like, there there's, there's an Ewok bow that I sold for $350.

Just it's a bow. This like, yeah, that's, you know, it's, but it completes my collection. Yeah.

I had, I had extra. And, and part of the problem is that so many companies make reproduction weapons now. Having the real thing is what's important to a lot of these people. And so if you have a real one and can prove it's real, there's the worth in terms of the later figures the those are starting to pick up in price yeah they used to not be worth very much at all but it gets to this point where people become old enough that they remember having them when they were kids their mom sold them off they don't have them now they want them and so you're starting to see the you know people who had those as a kid come of age and have a

little bit of discretionary income and and want them yeah so those i have a lot of because that's when i got into star wars because i would have been like a teenager right we're not going to go too much into star wars because people have said shut up about star wars and star trek on this podcast um but i mean talking about the toy worth this is probably worth it i got a quick star wars question we don't really have to explain it all that much i just want the answers um either you can either rank them or just tell me your favorite out of like the current disney lineup of star wars shows if you know them by heart and want to like rank them in like 90 seconds or less or just tell us what your favorite one is and why one or the other favorite uh they're all starting to come together so they're

all pretty good uh although unlike you keith i have not watched Andor yet. Me either. How do I kick him out of the Zoom call? I'm watching Echo right now. I've looked at Andor and been like, yeah, I don't care. I'll watch Echo. You know, there have been multiple times I have tried to watch Andor and have not. Right? And, you know, my younger brother watched the whole thing. He's like, this is the best one.

And I'm like, yeah. Where's the Wizards? I was like, this guy on a podcast I listen to thinks that too. Did you actually say that? Yeah. That makes me so happy. All right.

Take those glasses off. Has it been time? Yeah, buddy. It's been over two hours take those off I need to get a second pair of blue blockers because this is horrendous this is so ugly and everyone's blue

so to answer your question I don't know if it's because it's because it's hi you are not blurred too if you just if you don't know i know okay cool i know how my life yes it was i i would say and i don't know if it's because it's new but ahsoka really has been my favorite so far i didn't like but but you know i was i i've watched the clone wars i've watched rebels i've watched all that stuff so it's like yeah continuing her story i got into one of

them i think sesney had me start watching one of them a few months ago and i think i got like three or four episodes in uh of the one that the one that's the prequel but i just i i'll get back to it i just i loved ahsoka stuff i think ahsoka was again i said it very very many times that like i'll support her everything she does and her being ahsoka is fantastic i still think the mandalorian season one was the best i still think that that it's the thing that started it all it was the daredevil I still think that that it's the thing that started it all. It was the daredevil of the star Wars. And I can't,

I can't say anything to, you know, discount that opinion either. I mean, it's, I get, I get that sort of perspective. Yep. Okay.

I've been old. We're going on two hours. Pretty close. No wonder. I figured you would want to end this segment with some wrestling talk. That is where I'm going with this. I've been told you like wrestling. I know.

And earlier you mentioned you jumped in with my Bray Wyatt talk. So I think that it's time finally that I get to talk to somebody about wrestling on this. I'm not going to ask too much. I'm not going to go into, like, Kayfabe or Carney talk. I'm just going to ask some base-level stuff. I have two Mount Rushmores

that I want you to go through with me. Okay, let's be careful because we don't want to tread on my question for you but let's we might we might let's find out okay so mount rushmore of attitude era wrestler attitude era wrestlers druthers are allowed are we just are we just since we're saying attitude era are we just, since we're saying Attitude Era, are we just going with WWE or are we going Monday Night War type? We're going Monday Night War. Okay, I didn't want to say Monday Night War because that might have been too niche.

So when I say Attitude Era, I mean everybody involved with making wrestling as famous as it was at the time. Man, I was at Royal Rumble 1999 during the I Quit match between The Rock and Mankind. Yeah. So you're not... So I'm well aware of this. Yeah, so I'll change it from Attitude Era to Monday Night Wars. Monday Night Wars, because that makes it more difficult. That's the goal here, make it hard.

So I'm going to go with... have to go with stone cold you have to go you gotta go with stone cold and i think you have to go with the rock uh just just am i just okay okay well no no it's your it's your i i i love i love the rock uh doesn't I love The Rock who doesn't but The Rock and Stone Cold their feuds

first for the Intercontinental Champion then for the WWF Championship they were epic so I want to have them both in here. Okay.

I'm in. Now, and maybe this is just like a, a sort of like, just a pick because I just like him is Scott Hall. I just, I just like him. I just,

I just love. I just love. The Outsiders? There wouldn't have been a Monday Night War without the Outsiders. You don't have to justify that pick at all. I mean, I love the explanation because that's what druthers are for. I love Scott Hall. He's

he has that mix that of humor and toughness that I really enjoy. So then I get one more. I kind of want to go for a comedy pick, but it's Mount Rushmore. Who was instrumental? It could even be just, who did you like watching?

Cause I think I, I think I would know who to throw in if it were me doing this. So like, who did you just want to watch? Like, who did you tune in? It doesn't matter if they, like,

it'd be fucking Scotty too hotty for all I care. Who is it? Like somebody that like you were like, no, I want to see what they're up to. All right. All right. I can do that too

okay Rikishi ass uh my my pick there is Val Venus hell yes from Scarborough Canada right up the road Val Venus was hilarious his gimmick his gimmick

was unbelievable can't you can't do that nowadays. And he's a really good wrestler. He was actually really good, yeah. He was a really good wrestler. And to this day, my best friend Greg will send Val Venus stuff to my brother and I. It's just hilarious. Did he ever transition back into when WWE bought everything in like 01 or whatever?

Did he ever actually go back? Was he ever on WWE? I just remember him from WCW. No, he was always WWE. Never WCW. You're right. He'sW. You're right. He's WWE. He was Val Venus.

Then he was in Right to Censor. So he became less of this porn star. Yeah. And then he was in TNA for two episodes or something. When Hogan came into TNA and was gonna like make tna like reignite the monday night wars but something happened with like tapings or something and uh i think his name's scott morley he like he couldn't do it anymore so he was there for like three episodes and then quit like yeah he ended up coming back i think a little bit but i don't

think anything worse he had the most like awkward intro like it was so like it's like a 13 year old or a 12 probably like 11 year old honestly it was like oh wow that is like they're just pretending he's a porn star that's yeah yeah it was yeah that was definitely over the top that's yeah it wasn't as bad as uh the godfather though, coming out with his hoes. The ho tree. The ho tree. That was good. Okay, so that would lead up to the next question. This one's a bit...

Am I coming through echoey? I think you're okay. The Mount Rushmore of current wrestlers. I don't know how much you've been paying attention currently because i think that there's there's a lot going on between aew and pna and roh and like there's so many incestuous relationships in wrestling right now where these guys are

jumping back and forth blah blah who are you paying attention to now and i again i love this stuff i wish we could talk about wrestling i would have a whole thing i think that they talked about wrestling for like 30 seconds on one of the episodes two weeks ago where they talked about triple h's entrance or something like that and then i was just like you fucked like i was i could have been on this i was so actively googling what people's finishing moves were because they couldn't And then I was just like, you fucks. Like I was, I could have been on this. I was so. Googling what people's finishing moves were. Cause they couldn't remember the names.

Yeah. Oh. And I was just like marking out and I was like, I have all these answers. So it's fun that I get to talk to somebody that actually kind of might care about wrestling a little bit. So Mount Rushmore of current wrestlers. Now that doesn't have to be today. I'll say I will open this up for you for the PGR. Okay.

Yeah, I watch pay-per-view, and now it's probably the big pay-per-views. Yeah. I stopped watching when Bray died. I will be honest. I haven't watched a single full episode of wrestling since he went away. But I watch the highlight reels

and I watch... I'm going to watch Royal Rumble. Royal Rumble's the best. Because you get all the swears and all the surprises. But is there anybody you care about right now? I like Cody Rhodes. I do like cody rhodes i i think that he you know i've been watching him since he was what was it he was like that stardust type character um

the mustache the mustache before that he was the yeah intellectual before that. He was the nerd, the intellectual before that. Yeah, and he came out. There was a time when he would come out and give people bags, or he would have a bag on his head or something. He didn't want people to see him. So I like Cody Rhodes. I'm trying to think of who else really captures my attention uh i like what they're doing with damn i can't remember his name but like ray mysterio's son right now uh where he talks

about how he how he uh dominic dominic mysterio yeah dominic, how he spent time in jail or something. Is he the same stature as his dad? No, he's much bigger. He's bigger. Yeah, he's bigger. If there is a villain better, a heel, better than Dominic Mysterio right now, it's MJF. Okay? And nobody else. Like, that dude that dude like kids spit on him dominic mysterio he's so

hated yeah and he's so good at it it's almost uncanny it's you'd have to try harder right i think the last great villain was triple h roddy piper and tomny fucking mysterio he's so good at being hated so i'm up there i'm with you on that one yeah i like bailey but she hasn't done all that much lately. I liked her maybe five or six years ago when she was having those feuds in NXT. I don't know.

I think that's... That's cool. Sometimes these are a hit, sometimes these are a miss. I don't know how much you know, you know or how much you're paying attention so it was awesome to talk to anybody about wrestling some home gym equipment

where I tune out a bit now just to talk about wrestling I did I randomly caught a Sean it just popped up on YouTube it was like do you want to watch

an hour and a half documentary on Sean Michaels and I was like yeah sure I watched the whole fucking thing and i was like oh i remember i remember a lot of this and then like i didn't know about his drug addiction and shit and like you know going going away for five years and then coming back and having like a great match and i guess i didn't realize when he did kind of come back he literally

lost like at least every match they showed he lost like every match in the last like five years that he was there but he put like great performances on and just kind of helped put people over so that was it's it's because when he it's because when he was big he was an asshole yeah and he had to atone he had to pay those receipts to get back into the business for people to want to work with him again he was uh when he was at the top of his game and i'm gonna talk about heartbreak kid right about the x era he was one of the most hated people in the locker rooms but at the time because he was one of the biggest names in the locker rooms you didn't have guys that could kick him out like you currently have guys uh like yeah you currently have guys like roman reigns you have guys like the Reigns. You have guys like The Undertaker. You always had these what we call locker room generals, locker room big dogs, where if somebody's acting up, you could fucking boot them.

Right. But because Shawn Michaels was so protected, nobody could boot him. Right. And then that was that was a big problem. So when he did go away and then came back, he didn't come into a locker room of people like, yeah, we love you, come back. He came back into a locker room of people like, don't do what you did before.

Like, you made us all not comfortable. And because wrestling is such a tight-knit community, that kind of thing happens. Yeah, it was crazy when they said, like, him and Triple H, and he couldn't remember if it had been had been like a year or two years they didn't talk to fucking triple h like that's so like i don't know i guess i've never been wild never right been you know i've never uh had a drug addiction problem so i guess you know i can't really you don't really

when people are remembering shit that happened when they were dealing with drug addiction i guess it is it does make more sense of how they just like shit just gets blurred. And like when they're recounting stuff and it's just all like, how do you not remember, remember like slightly more specific, you're just giving like vague memories. You don't have actually specific. It's like,

Oh, cause you were in a drunken fucking, you know, ill induced soups, you know, stupor for fucking 20 years. And in an industry where your entire job is to beat up your body consistently for hours and hours

and hours. So moving on from wrestling for now, because I get the feeling it's going to come up again later, we have another fucking brand new affiliate. We do. So, you know, we try not to... I'll talk about this one pretty in depth for the first time, and then

from there, you know, we'll see. I obviously don't want to, you know, come in your guys' ears too hard about all these affiliates. Uh, just like we get a lot, like it's, it's kind of getting, I got solicited for two separate ones today and I wasn't going to turn them down. I said to Morgan today, I was like, this is fucking out of hand that how many people want to like jump in and join us. But at the same time, I think it's a reflection of what we're're doing how we're doing and the people that stand behind what we're doing so um tell them because i have no clue who this is never heard of them don't know who they are go but at the end of

the day though massonomics is the only paying sponsor so make sure you give them all the kudos and but uh if you give it if you get the opportunity to use any of our affiliates they are all code unpaid and save you anywhere between 5% and 10% off. We will appreciate that. So my good friend Ashton at Freedom Fitness Equipment reached out to me and wanted to see if we wanted to set up an affiliate link. And I was like, yeah, let's go ahead and do it. So he is a gym equipment distributor out of Charlotte, North Carolina. He does a lot of commercial stuff as far as like he'll, you know,

resell and refurbish a lot of like commercial cardio equipment and then has a bunch of, you know, new stock equipment that he sells. So, I mean, he does do a free pickup if you're in Charlotte, North Carolina, but he also ships stuff nationwide. So basically his little spiel he wanted me to read here for you guys is, okay okay tired of paying stupid prices for gym equipment you're going to use and abuse anyway you need to get hella swole without selling a second kidney i got good news look no farther than freedom fitness equipment the best place to find steals on new and used fitness equipment give your gym a facelift and stay big with code unpaid and that's freedom fitness equipment.com save seven uh five percent it looks like i mean that's pretty dope right that's our first equipment

affiliate so i'm in use it up if you're gonna i i spent some time on the website today and i i didn't really get anything but it's pretty cool and he's a cool guy i mean he's i i've seen him on other podcasts with keys he's very big in the industry like he gives back as far as like he's always trying he's always on he's got his own you know he puts out a lot of his own content but he's also helps out with a lot of the other guys um like he'll he you know i've done a couple different i think at least one or two different podcasts with him on like round tables with the garage gym experiment so i already had a rapport with him i met him at home gym con uh home gym con save uh 10 on the code unpaid come hang out with me and ashton and i want to say uh

the current home gym con crew count that i know of is going to be me joey not not not our joey another joey um the home gym community uh Joey E. I can't remember how to pronounce his last name. Carp probably. I think Carp's coming. He's working on it. Hurt Locker is technically crew. Not super active, but he is a supporting

member. And then Big Chris from BeltFed, who is a new crew um if anyone's not familiar with him he's basically like if you're gonna buy a belt for powerlifting i always tell people to go to pioneer if you don't want pioneer go to go to chris at belt fed they belt fed is like belt fed is like no no no no i'm saying like those are the only two belts that i would recommend i wouldn't i don't tell people to go buy a fucking enzer belt and don't go buy an ipf belt or a uh an spd belt unless you need to compete in IPF.

So like I like pioneers because it's all I've ever worn. But you know I met Chris and his wife at home gym called really fucking dope people. And he just recently joined a crew as of like this week, I think so possibly a future guest if he sticks around and you know wants to be on

the podcast. But sorry to harken back. Freedom freedom fitness equipment uh go to unpaid i'll i'll add to uh big carp had a a giveaway for belt fed um some handles i won that yes uh yeah so it's pretty sweet and um uh chris um hounded me for my unboxing video so i had to put it out there uh i like them i still owe big carp some video of me using the handles uh got sick just after i got them but they're're, they're, they're super cool. Yeah. I like Bill Fett's ring. So I think it's about time. I think we've had enough affiliate ads.

Yeah. I'm good for the week to jump. I'm jumping. Sorry, Kim. We'll get to you next week. A bar rescue a code unpaid. That's it for this week. Oh yeah.

I got mine. I love it. I love it so much. Okay. We have to talk about it then. It takes some getting used to. Do you have one, Andrew? I don mine. I love it. I love it so much. Okay. We have to talk about it then. It takes some getting used to, do you have one Andrew? I don't.

That, that, that is something I actually, I really want one. Yeah. It's one of those things that just like, it's, it's like,

well, I don't need one of those. And then I get one and I'm like, how did I ever survive without this? For real? Yeah. For real. And I,

now that I have multiple barbells because i'm a nightmare of a human and um you know taking a bad advice from keith and but like many barbos it's it is perfect it's a circular brush that you just over here and it's clean and um you know it's it's weird i didn't have one before it's just one of those like it's almost like a drink spotter it's, it's a weird, I didn't have one before. It's just one of those, like, it's almost like a drink spotter. It's a bit like a drink spotter where you look at it and you go, I don't need one of those. Then you get one and you go, how did I never have one of these?

So barbell rescue is it's up there with the, the weird niche stuff for home gym owners, even commercial gym owners. Cause I've seen them at some of my meets that you should definitely get your hands on one of those. And if you want to save five bucks, use code unpaid. That'll pay for half your shipping, to be honest with you. Absolutely. All right. Well, I'm pretty content. I think we're definitely over the two hour mark now. So that is the perfect time to get into a little unpaid or underrated big andrew

garrison you are familiar with this game i hope but do you want to explain it to the listeners of how you play unpaid or underrated i have my druthers i can't ride two asses with one horse or whatever i'll never get that right and now i'm not gonna learn just for the spite of no no no line writing all right unpaid unpaid here is it is technically overrated because no one wants to be unpaid so it sounds like you've listened to an episode or two because that's uh you're paraphrasing big keith a little bit there oh yeah i've listened to every episode i love it i love it now did you um when you did listen have you been like you listen to every episode from the very beginning and listen when they come out or you kind of like got behind a little bit and then had to binge a couple because you knew

you were going to be a guest or no every tuesday uh i love it i love Yeah. So when you guys were talking about, you know, starting the podcast in Discord, I, you know, I really wanted to throw my hat in there and be like, oh, yeah, I want to be it known how much I appreciate the amount of time you guys put into this because I know it's a lot. Well, you know what would really help is if you go ahead and order a barbell rescue brush and use code unpaid. There you go. I'll talk to my wife about it and see if I can. My wife? Yeah. All right. So unpaid or underrated for big andrew my number one question

will be labor unions what do you think about labor unions oh is working in a grocery store that had gone on strike a time or two uh you're kind of familiar with this situation i guess yeah political realm yeah it's kind of familiar with this situation, I guess? Yeah. Political realm. Yeah, it's kind of political. Okay, so, yeah, well, that's true. I honestly didn't think about that. So don't dig at me. I don't want your druthers

then. Just get me on Patreon. Unless you can keep it a non-political. That's a good call. We love whatever works for you. Yeah. I will say the Southern California United

Food Commercial Workers Union. Holy fuck, what's that acronym? Yeah, it's UF. I think it's like UFCW or something. It looks like a wrestling fed.

It kind of sounds like the weird Al movie Keith's not a fan of that so he has his faults so I will say specifically the grocery store union here is

unpaid because, yeah, we were on strike for six months. I don't want to get into all the political stuff about it. People have their issues with unions, and I don't necessarily think unions are bad. and I don't necessarily think unions are bad, but the one I was in, I would say, is unpaid because I don't think that they tried very hard to find a good solution in a timely manner for us when people lost their houses and stuff. I was in college.

It was a different time for me, but there were people that this was their career and they needed to get back. Oh, it makes sense. And, and good catch on,

we don't want to get too political because I am the biggest, don't fucking talk about politics guy on the podcast. I don't, I don't register. It's funny that I didn't register that. That was like a political kind of thing. I just didn't piece it together. So,

uh, number two for me, I'm going to go with one of the ones. Uh, okay. Um, if you don't know what this one is or aren't familiar with it, I'm going to go with one of the ones. Uh, okay. Um, if you don't know what this one is or aren't familiar with it, I'll go to my second one, which is of the similar vein. So unpaid or underrated, the TV show, welcome to Rexham. I have not watched it.

Okay. So then how about the Rexham football club? Uh, I'm going to say it's unpaid and I'll tell you why. How about the Wrexham Football Club? I'm going to say it's unpaid, and I'll tell you why. Because, yeah, they're this lower division team. They're non-league. And that's cool. You know, if it's your local club, so people of Wrexham, it's probably underrated because, you know, you have all this stuff. But just because you have some money behind it, you know, now you have all of these people in America. They're like, yeah, Wrexham,xum you know whatever that are all into it just

like it's unpaid like they're not supporters they weren't supporters of this team before they're just supporters now because it's a popular thing and i think that's the definition of unpaid that makes sense i for the clarity like i really like the show my wife got into it she's she really likes ryan reynolds and uh the other dude rob mcinelli i love mac i love mac he's one of the funniest guys i i think there is but i think i think the show is great i don't really i could take or leave the soccer club, but the show itself, their banter back and forth and how they,

they've, uh, they keep fucking with each other on their birthdays. They give them this most outlandish gift. That's just super embarrassing and like kind of detrimental to them. Kind of thing. Like to the other person, it's just really funny.

So I guess this is going to show my ignorance. What, what do you watch it on? Like, I don't even know what service it's on. I haven't watched it either. I think I have it on Crave up here. I'm pretty sure it's Hulu.

Crave and Hulu makes sense. I think it's an FXX show. I can log in through my buddy's spectrum on FX, and then we have Hulu, so whichever one it hits first. Very enjoyable. I really like it. I think it's great. I probably would like the show.

I think, well, yeah. And that's why if, yeah, regardless of your opinions of the Rex and the club, I think you'd like the show because anything, I would assume like anything soccer you probably consume and kind of enjoy. So that'll go into my next one and my last one uh i'm gonna go with unpaid or underrated you're doing four hit me up no the one the other one

i crossed out when you were in the bathroom was something we talked about earlier oh i went to the bathroom everybody yep yep joey went and took a fucking fourth time this podcast at the bladder of a pregnant elderly woman like I've only I've only had three. That's just the bagging meat with non meat products. We can be already covered. So I just I crossed it out already. So for my my last one here

Ted Lasso. I hope you've at least seen this one. If you haven't seen this one, I'm right. It's like what the fuck? Come on. That's tough because I wasn't too much of a fan of the last season. The last season was hurried. It was not a great season.

Yeah. But I'm going to take the whole thing as a whole. The first season was a fucking 10. But then again, it's not whether I like or dislike something. You know, because I do feel that there's a lot of people that just like it because it's popular. Well, it's your perspective of it compared to their perspective of it.

Yeah. I think it's underrated. I really do. I agree. I think it's underrated. I really do. I agree. Some of this also comes from he did that

I think he did that on SNL way back when. It was an American coach comes to England. It was either a skit or something. It was done like a like years

ago and then to see it and i think he shopped it around as a show and nobody really picked it up until apple did and then to see it come to fruition um it's like, it was a really good show. It was, and I don't care. It's underrated. Absolutely. I think most people that watch it agree with that, so Cool Beans, hand the baton to my co-host.

I think Ted Lasso was one of the first shows in a long time to make me fucking cry watching it. And it was when, particularly, his wife showed up. And he kind of came to terms with the divorce. Right there in front of all of us. I fucking teared up. I'm not afraid to admit it. know macho man says the macho man will cry today tomorrow and a thousand more times but the thing is you got

to keep up and keep going on and and honestly that's what that episode was it was it was pretty incredible um so yeah a huge fan of huge fan of of Ted Lasso. So I'm going to ask some completely unrelated shit. I added these two, and then there's one on here that I don't know why it's on here. So I'm assuming Keith added it. You added that one, right? The top one? Yeah. Yeah, no, that's relevant for something all right told me should i save it

to last pra it'll be uh it should be funny i guess all right because unpaid or underrated lifting in jeans depends on the jeans but i'm gonna just go overall underrated i don't want those rascal jeans oh no not the rascal jeans. That's what the whole that was the point of that post was I got those jeans at, well, maybe you know

at Costco. I got those jeans. They are the Urban Star jeans at Costco. They're $12. $12? It's like, I'm not going to spend $40 or anything above that on pants. I'm cheap. They're not, well, I'll make an exception for Lyft shorts, okay?

Well, I'll make an exception for Lyft shorts, okay? But when it comes, like, I've always been bigger, and my jeans have always kind of split in the crotch. So why am I going to spend $60 on pants that are only going to last me for a few months? So those kind of spandexy jeans that I got at Costco, they're $12. And I bought them through costco.com and when you add a certain number of garments you get a certain amount off so i ended up getting something like 10 pairs of pants for like nine or ten bucks or something and i can squat in them yeah you know it's like you know so rascals out here selling their pants for 60 70 dollars or whatever the hell they are it's like this is probably the same shit just rebranded or like i don't know you know i have the the most expensive

pair of pants i own i don't think i've ever talked about this in the podcast i bought at the arnold um because i have to wear dress pants at work. So I bought some bodybuilder dress pants. And I'm not going to get into how... I saw those there, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I will fucking tell you, those

accentuate every muscle you got. But they're not cheap. I'll never buy another pair again not gonna name the company because like actually i've already i've already started tearing the seams um which is interesting because the waist doesn't fit but my quads are blasting through them so like what bodybuilder is this built for right even the waist doesn't fit but the quads don't like but yeah it gets out there

these clothing companies unless they're putting lift symbols on them they're overcharging you okay I'm gonna go with the next one hey you like rocks do you like lifting rocks unpaid or underrated cause I heard you got a whole gym full of

boxes of rocks I have tons of rocks yeah I bet I again so fucking exciting for me yeah well I think you know underrated underrated

definitely I love natural stone lifting I think that was like one of the first interactions that Joey, you and you and I had was. One to three. And you said something like. Well. It was like. The first time I felt like an influencer.

I guess. But you said something like. He's right. Why don't I? And you just went and lifted some rocks. In your backyard or something. So I lifted one. And Joey. You may not remember.

You commented rocks. Rocks. and joey you may not remember you commented uh rocks rocks just yeah rocks and so yeah so the next time i left it was like joey needs to see this and then it was like yeah i think it was the first or second episode you you had you know it was like in between there you had started talking about like man you know like i i see rocks on the side of the road and i want to go lift them still to this day and stuff and it's like yeah and you know my uh my mother-in-law there they bought a house down here and i was looking through their yard i was like you got a really cool rocket is it okay if i take that and she was like yeah why is it special i was like well it's

about 130 pounds and i want it you know it's it's such a weird yeah it's such a weird concept that like you just you just i want to lift that there's a rock it looks really heavy can i can i just lift that and everybody around you is like what's wrong with you well but like jake just just want to lift it i just want to see how heavy it is can i lift it yeah like even even this week i you know i don't get to be in the field all that much anymore. I write a lot of reports, but I've been in the field this week and there's been a lot of big rocks. So, you know, a lot of it's like construction workers are doing stuff and looking for things. I started moving some of these big rocks out of the way

and one of the excavator operators was like, you're strong! And I was like, you're strong. And I was like, thank you, sir. Yeah. But it was in my way, though. So I just had to move it. You don't have a tractor for that. No, you took too long.

So I did it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like he's got this excavator. And I'm like, you you know what instead of using the bucket to scoop this up i'm gonna lift it and throw it into there yeah yeah i've got goals to hit i'm gonna do this myself and and that yeah it's funny because uh like my dad built this entire garden in our front yard before i never even moved up here and he's got it's just full

of these rocks and i finally just spotted the one the one day and i was just like i want that rock and even he was like that's like a granite rock like that's not like a normal rock that rock is heavier and denser than it looks and i was like good that's the one i want and he goes you know when i got that we had to have two people help me up into the pickup truck and i was like yeah that's the one i want and i carried it to the backyard and like laid down and cried it was so heavy and i was like yeah i chose the right one this is the guy this is the guy so i'm glad that one actually panned out does he like lifting rocks? I don't know he has a garage full of rocks

and then before we knew that Big Hot was behind the Orange Glaze he had that post about crew lifting rocks and I was like I'm surely going to be in this one because I lifted rocks and it didn't show up I didn't know it was Big Hot

that was behind it i thought it was somebody else that's a whole other story how um everyone was wrong on that one yeah it's another thing about like how scared i made myself that i had convinced myself it was this other person that i had uh i had messaged uh the orange glaze and, I am sure you're this person is like, no, you're wrong, but keep trying or something. I was like, damn it. And I was somewhat relieved because I didn't really want to know. But anyways, there, there was that post. I was like, damn it. I was like, all right, that's it. I'm going out in my garage.

I'm lifting this rock right now. And the rock is the one I took from my mother-in-law's garden. And I was like, I was inspired by Orange Glaze's post and like lifted the rock. What's an Orange Glaze, son? And, you know, Big Hot like graced with uh a video of my own lifting that rock which was not my intention i was just like man i wanted to be in with the other crew lifting rocks okay uh this is the last one i don't know why it's on here i assume it's relevant let's hope that this goes somewhere unpaid or underrated Pam Beasley Pam Beasley

I bet my little brother put that on there because Pam Beasley so she's from the American Office I don't know Keith probably doesn't know who she is no I absolutely know who it is oh okay it's me I don't watch the office

okay so she's from the American Office she's from the American office. She is the worst. Everybody she was the one where it's like you know, Jim was after her and she was dating Roy from

the warehouse and you really wanted her and Jim to get together and then they did, but then Pam had this issue. She went to art school and then, uh, you know, was a failure at that.

Couldn't finish that. Just like she failed at her relationship with Roy at the warehouse. Um, and, uh, you know, so she comes back and then, you know,

Jim wants to go off and like, you know, make a better life for his family, her and everybody, you know, by starting this new, being part of this new company. And, uh, she's giving him shit all the time about it. She's just the worst. She, she's the villain of the office. I can see that. Actually, I can see that. Yeah. From what I have watched. Yeah, so you start out thinking Michael Scott is the bad guy.

No, he's just stupid. He's just stupid. He's that kind of lovable stupid. Pam Beasley is unpaid. lovable stupid. Pam Beasley is unpaid. She is the worst, and everybody would probably have been better off in the office

if she... And the fact that... And the fact that her... For some reason, and this is the other thing that really grinds the knurling off my Texas power bar, they switch her mom for some reason in the seasons, That really grinds the knurling off my Texas power bar.

They switch her mom for some reason in the seasons. It's like one season. It's one lady is her mom. And then the next season, if there's a different lady, that's her mom. It's like, come on, like continuity, folks. Yeah, that always bugged me. Did you enjoy when Michael banged her mom, though? Because she was so devastated and pissed off by it. Did you get a little redemption of like, ha, fuck you.

You got what was coming to you kind of thing? That was pretty funny. But I did dislike that it was a different mom than the first time I showed her. Ultimately, this show sounds like it sucks. I love the show i i i think it's hilarious i mean my my wife and i we used to play this game like uh office roulette where we would um we wanted to watch office we didn't care what episode and we just close our eyes and scroll one way scroll the other way, scroll and click okay,

and then whatever episode showed up, we would watch and we would just really enjoy. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you can do that more with Office than a lot of other comedies, too. Like, I don't think the Office... Do that with Letterkenny. You'll have way more success.

It's true. Letterkenny has, like, almost no continuity. Correct. All right. Well, that brings it to an end. I think you passed, that is. As Joey likes to say, you did pass. A couple cool beans, and we'll hand it over to you. If you've got anything for us, buddy. Yeah, so I think Joey knows where I'm going, so I'm going to start with you, Keith.

I have a question for each of you, which I think Joey knows where I'm going, so I'm going to start with you, Keith. I have a question for each of you, which I think will garner some sort of discussion, and then maybe something that's a little bit serious, Goose, that may just end up being a comment. I don't know. So for you, Keith. Yeah. So for you, Keith, so in your putting together your vintage weight collection, when you were doing this, you know, I'm thinking back to some of the stories I hear from like Big Rob on his Vintage Weights podcast some of the older episodes of Mastonomics where Tanner and Tyler actually would go pick up wood

do you have any interesting stories about houses you went into to collect these weights or just an experience of like buying i've been i've been all over the northeast buying shit man it's been great uh i've got a i put a lot of time behind steering wheels to go get stuff uh i met a dude like i was working in albany so i was like i live in rochester i was working like three hours like i was staying in

a hotel for my company like three hours away from here and then from there I was able to meet up with someone that was another like two and a half three hours away I think like and it was either Connecticut or Rhode Island I don't remember which one and I just met him at like we I think he even drove like an hour to meet me too because it was like I had such a long drive and it was like the dead of winter and we're just shooting the shit about vintage weights like in like a 20 degree parking lot for like a half hour just freezing our asses off. But like we was like you found that kindred spirit. Now, that was one of the first times I actually bought something off another collector kind of and wasn't just like a as people call it, like, you know, I didn't find it in the wild. Like I paid a I paid a i mean it was

going rate but it was like a premium so um it wasn't like all the times where i like would get shit like 20 cents a pound and be like oh well that's definitely worth like 10 times that or whatever but uh just being able to actually talk to another human in person this would have been like 2016 or maybe something like that so it was like you know a long time ago before like all it was pre any of the Facebook groups and like all there was like the bodybuilding forum, which was just like, like you had to fucking jump through hoops even like be able to get create an account to be able to talk to other people. So like I had like minimal to no communication with

other collectors at the time. So being one of the first dues actually just talked to for like a half hour about like gym equipment about specifically i bought uh i think i i bought two or three pairs round heads that were like you know the the bigger ones it was like ones i needed um i might even had to buy like more i i think i had to buy like four i might have even had to buy multiple pairs but i i only needed like half of them. The other ones were duplicates that I did turn around and sell. But just talking to him and I think he told me he had like four or five pairs of deep dish at the time. And I think at the time I was like, oh, I didn't have any deep dish. And then now I'm up to five pairs myself, which is pretty cool. as um like the best deals i've ever got like i've i've paid fucking like 50 cents a pound for deep dish plates before that go for a thousand dollars a pair like like that's pretty fucking cool um but a lot of those didn't really have good stories because i was just we're just buying off people they didn't really know what they had um every now and then uh i did um i bought my a lot of

my milled plates i bought off this old dude locally, like super old. And I ended up like saving his number and I would like call him like once a year. Actually, I think I had his nephew's number because he was like so old that he wouldn't like text or anything. So I think he gave me his nephew's number. So I would text him once a year over the course of like five years to be like, is so-and-so ready to let go of any more stuff? Because he was just downsizing his gym as he got older. I was really sad because the guy was like a widower and he would always talk about his fucking deceased

wife and i went to go buy stuff i remember that always kind of like made me sad as shit but he had a sick home gym um and he like had his buddies over and actually this is actually a really good point what um anyone that follows my gym or you know follows me for you you i'm always uh getting taking pictures with my friends uh either in the gym or at meets and stuff like that and i put them in magnetic uh photo frames and put them all over my duck work and all over my uh my my my eye beam so i've got literally like 300 pictures like in magnetic photo sleeves all over my gym i got idea from, I got that inspiration from this old dude's gym to like plaster my gym with pictures of my lifting events. Cause he had an entire pegboard like

floor to ceiling full of like power lifting meets from like 30 years. So that, and that was a, that, that specific thing, like that always stuck with me. I'm like, all right, I'm going to just plaster my walls and anything I can with like pictures of me and my friends lifting so and i've got like years of memories of doing that now so but yeah i've been i've been flipping weight for years uh it's definitely had some odd experiences buying stuff in like very seedy parts of town and just kind of be going like oh man i don't i'm not a guy that owns a gun but i probably should have one in this situation kind of thing. Yeah. I was, I was wondering if you've met any like really strange folk. There's been some few. And,

and I like, I don't know if it was just my, like, I didn't really care, but I was never one to be like, if I was selling something to get, I've sold a lot too. And everyone's always like,

Oh, where do you want to meet up? And I'm like, I'm selling something, man. I'm not delivering it. Cause I would be like, if you want me to drive somewhere, that's like an extra like 40 bucks like if i have

to leave my house to sell you something that's like not worth like i know like if you want i'll give you my address and put it on the porch you can venmo me or leave the money in the mailbox if you're afraid i'm gonna fucking hurt you or something like it's a contact free pickup but like there are uh yeah i never really had the issue with like saying, this is where I live. Um, one thing that I found was funny, it was not necessarily vintage weights, but I would, uh, I sold so much stuff one summer to like the same guy that he,

he must've been building his gym up pretty good. And I think I sold him two different, like I sold him a couple of different things over the course of that summer. And he randomly showed up to my house when I was like out in my driveway to want something. Cause he, cause he, uh,

when he got the address, he, he ended up, he was, he was trying to buy something from someone like blocks away. And he was just in the neighborhood and was like, Oh, this must, this must be from that guy. I'm just going to go to his house. And I was so confused when he showed up asking me to buy something. And I'm like, I don't, I might've actually even been meeting someone else to sell something like the exact same time. And that's what even made it funnier. Cause like there were two people trying to show up and I'm like, I know I didn't talk to you today. Why are you here?

And he was like, Oh no, you were supposed to buy dumbbells. I was like, I don't have any dumbbells for sale, man. And he was like, ah,

shit. And I looked at his phone. He's like, Oh yeah, it's like, it's like a mile away or something. I must've just automatically drove here cause I thought it was close. So,

but yeah, that's a, I do have a lot of home gym stories or a lot of buying gym equipment stories, but nothing really, nothing other than what I've already mentioned really jumps out at the time. No? All right. So then, Big Joey, this is my question. I wasn't going to go with the Mount Rushmore just because it seems like the sisters have stolen that.

They did, didn't they? Yeah. And he acknowledged it on the podcast yeah so so if you notice there's a trend here oh i've noticed oh yeah you know they're gonna talk about wrestling next week for a lot you know what it was i think it was crew falls so there was one where i made a joke earlier that I said something and they did it on the podcast and then it was crew falls and they were like, Oh yeah, this is just now crew falls as Canon.

And I was like, Hey, right here. That was me. But that's okay, man. Ask what, ask what you're going to ask.

Let, let them be damned. So, but, but I think this is better. Okay. So it's, it's, I'm paying underrated. It's gotta be better. You I think this is better. Okay. It's unpaid and underrated.

It's got to be better. You can choose these individuals from any time period, any era. Oh, geez. Do I have to write things down? No. Okay. I want you to build a stable of wrestlers. You can choose four wrestlers, and you get one manager. So I want to hear the stable.

I want to hear kind of why you're choosing that person, because obviously some people might not work together. And, yeah, I want to hear your thoughts. Jesus. Wow. It's not often somebody stumps me I can go from any era in their prime yeah

so we're obviously going to go Bray Wyatt but we're going to go Bray Wyatt cult leader phase and he's going to be the leader of the stable. We're going to go Goldust. Nice.

We're going to go Goldust in the Attitude Era where he was so extravagant he made people uncomfortable. We're going to go Raven. Raven's Flock Raven. So Scott Levy is included in this.

And the reason we're doing this is either all weird dudes, weird cult leader, kind of weird dudes. We're going to go Whale and Mercy from back in the 80s. So Whale and Mercy is going to come in there. He's going to be the muscle. He was a six-foot tall, just serial killer dude. He's going to be the muscle of this stable. So that's my four.

And the reason we're picking these four is we've got the brains, Bray Wyatt, cult leader. We got the weird dude that every cult has, which is the gold dust. We've got everybody we need. Manager? Fuck me. Who's the best manager of all time?az Taz Taz has this thing about him where he was the he Taz is the greatest in my opinion the greatest to do what he does he was samoa joe before samoa joe was samoa joe he was solo sokoa before solo so

he was roman reigns before that he was the ultimate like my only job is to beat the shit out of you yeah and i i still maintain that taz is when when taz came to WWF, you can watch that intro again and again on YouTube, and it will still give you goosebumps. Absolutely. When that heart starts beeping, and the music starts, that will... I almost thought,

and not that I think he's a great manager at all, but just with the Weirdness stuff that you're going with Like maybe the Jackal Would have fit in The Jackal Yeah yeah yeah He was that guy that was like

We're gonna have intellectual intercourse And all that stuff And he was with the oddities for a while So he's kind of like in that weird But he wasn't all that great no but he's actually in aew right now he he's cyrus they call him he was also actually in ecw the um the guy that represented the the network back when they were trying to get kicked off of TNT. Whatever TNT was, Spike, I think they were called at the time. Yeah, I don't think Taz would necessarily be the best manager. I don't really dig managers.

I don't think if you have a good frontman, you don't need a manager. Yeah, and that's what it sort of seemed like with Bray Wyatt, you may not need such thing but but also bray wyatt has a tendency to ramble and rabbit just talk too much you know keep in mind um i tried to say it earlier like he he he played the long game so he might have been yapping too much. But if you ever watch, if you go back and check him out, he did this thing where he said, in every interview I've done for the last 12 weeks or 12 years or whatever, there's a non sequitur phrase. equator phrase and what he did is he actually wrote a poem so he would go in there and talk about his opponent and then he would have a phrase that didn't matter to the opponent and he wrote an entire poem over those entire t the the fiend was actually born nine years ago so like i said that guy was that guy was fucking long term doing this job. Uh, so I don't think like necessarily I need like maybe Bobby Heenan. Yeah.

Yeah. I'll be the brain Heenan. Um, yeah. Like definitely if I was putting a stable together, I'd be putting weird people together because I think that there's a mental aspect to wrestling as well you know i i'd probably even put uh fuck what's his face now he's darby allen i'd put him in there for sure

right like if i had to build like an nwo stable now where i just have limited access to people making the business different you know darby allen would be in there orange cassidy would be in there um god what's that weird dude god i can picture his face his face is everywhere he's in he's in aew right now he's so nice he's so nice and evil at the same time like there's so many people i would put in there but if i was building a stable today that many people I would put in there, but if I was building a stable today, that's who I would put in. Cool. I'm surprised you didn't go with Paul Bearer as the, like, it needs to be up your alley. Paul Bearer.

I mean, he was good for what he did, but he wasn't necessarily, necessarily like he was instrumental to a storyline yeah he introduced kane kind of like a kane would have happened without him your brother it was over the top wrestling you might as well put in brother love at that point if you're gonna go and like paint his face red and just be like i love you yeah i i don't think that those guys necessarily contributed much to um the the the movement of wrestling as much as they did the movement of the character so i think yeah yeah if i had to put together today based on how i feel because honestly like i just miss bray white right now and with the tattoos and things like that that would be my thing but i think if you ask me like the strongest stable the fastest stable the the luchador stable i think i'd have different answers but oh definitely no No, I wanted that answer. Your idea is stable. Just all around. That's good. Are the tattoos the reason why you haven't used your new deadlift bar yet?

Yeah. Specifically got told, do not strain the skin. And I was like, well, I'm a weightlifter. And he was like, not this week, you aren't. And I went, noted, sir. I've never used a deadlift bar, so I was. I was told specifically not to strain the skin at all. No bench, no deadlift, nothing that you have to grip anything with.

So I was like, I can squat. And he's like, as long as you don't use your hands. And I was like, well, I'm gonna, so I might as well just not at all at this rate. So yeah,

I haven't lifted all week. So I'm going to make a, a Joey can't jerk off meme after this episode. I think. I thought that was funny. Yeah, it's real funny until you see how pent up I am right now. Oh, cute. I was wondering why I had no reaction.

Joey's socks are safe. Oh, gosh. You got one more quick one yeah and maybe this is too serious goose and if that's the case this could just be a comment type thing so

Keith I really enjoy how much you love cats like just genuinely like how how much they mean to you like did you growing up did you have cats like how did this love for cats yep um oh always a cat household, never a dog household. Let's see. So I had my cat Patches. We had her for almost 25 years. She was like my cat.

I have memories. You know what? You have something that you were too young to remember, but you remember people telling you, so then it becomes a memory. So my dad always told me I was a toddler when she was a kitten so we kind of grew up together and like she i'd be like running in the hall and she'd like like pounce on me and knock me over and stuff because like we were like the same size i guess by the time she you know grew up uh so we had her for you know from like my you know adolescence or from my child like my literally toddler era to like early 20s so i remember putting her down you know we let her linger a little too long like she got to where like she

couldn't like you know bathe herself worth of shit and hadn't hadn't actually hit the litter box in probably a year so i was always but it was my cat and my responsibility at that point to like uh you know always put the newspapers down around the litter box and all that so uh then we had another cat sebastian that kind of overlapped her probably like 10 years that was funny though they never got along so that's why i like uh like i never wanted to get multiple cats unless they were bonded already and like those two were an example of why not because it's like it was almost pointless to have two cats because they fucking hated each other well the young boy like would have been her best friend but she was just setting her ways and

was already a decade old when they introduced a kitten and she was like this is my house fuck you so uh but yeah always you know just always had cats uh would have probably gone almost a decade without any pets because we didn't get yeah yeah we got gus maybe in my our late 20s and you know he we lost him early this past year. So about it all, just over a year ago now, honestly, I think if I had to guess, it's almost been like an exact, exactly a year that we had to put him down. Uh, but he was our kid, you know, we're not, we're not, we're not going to have kids. We don't really want kids technically medical reasons, not safe for her to have kids. So, you know, a cat was kind of it for us and you know when we lost him

it got really hard uh now we got the new kittens uh and it's you know they are they are kittens so they get into everything they just got introduced to the basement this past week um one of them did get into the basement like a month ago but just freaked the fuck out and went like did like one lap like smell on the wall going ape shit and hit it hit under the treadmill until i could like pick it up and drag her out that's me coming into your gym too by the way the first time i see i'm just gonna fucking freak out and hide look at all this shit uh but now they're both now they're now the other one will go down there um yeah i don't know i i the one thing i kind of like about my so i go into i go into people's homes and apartments literally like I go into 50 apartments a day sometimes. So I, I, on average,

I see at least, at least one or two cats a day that are actually friendly enough and come up to me. So I pretty much almost, almost every day I get to like pet a stranger's cat essentially. So that's kind of a nice benefit to my job when I get that. I don't know. I just, I said, just, just growing up, you know, you are what you're, what you're you know you are what you kind of grow up and i we didn't have dogs um the dogs that were around our neighbors that had dogs were just shitty white trash people that just didn't take care of their dogs so the dogs in the neighborhood ran loose and were just kind of like not treated well and they were like the outside dogs that just lived in a fucking kennel and like never went inside so it was just like y'all almost look at it it's like it's not even like a family pet it's just a thing they own that

lives in the backyard so whereas like my cat like fucking you know you sleep with your cat so there's always just a different scenario uh than what i was used to like i just you know just dogs and us our family just never got really close i don't hate dogs i i mean i have friends that have dogs i'll pet a dog and all that but like a dog doesn't do anything for my heart whereas a cat like every time i see a cat my heart jumps every time i see a dog i'm like are you gonna bite me do i have to kick you like what's what's gonna happen here yeah okay yeah it was just it was interesting because you know lots of people will be like oh i'm a animal person or this that but i think it was big murph's episode where her cat jumped up and i could hear in your voice when you were like oh you know like like this dude really actually

cares about cats like it's not just like i'm a cat person over you know that that sort of thing so it was just sort of interesting to me i've told multiple people in my life that i value a cat's life more than theirs and they don't they don't take it well i can see why though like i can see why uh luckily i live in a i i work in a place sorry not live in a place i work in a place where uh dogs get trained so i i where we work we're right next to like a dog training facility so i have the luxury of people bringing in dogs that are being trained to be service dogs that's cool and if they're young enough you get to say hi are you socializing and they will go yes please come pet this puppy and have you ever heard the best fucking phrase in your life

yes please come pet this puppy because otherwise service dogs are forbidden dogs those are forbidden dogs nope you're at work I appreciate you support everything you do sir but yeah cats at the same time too

like you gotta come meet Steve's cats at some point you're gonna have to come meet steve's cats you at some point you're gonna have to come up here and meet these fucking vicious feral psychotic animals that are steve's serval cats or savannah cats or whatever they are um and when i say that i mean no they're adorable dummies that just want to cuddle and probably bite you a little bit. But like in that way that you're just like, hey, stop it. Are you talking about cats or just that? That sounds like you described like 80% of crew.

Oh, no, no. If anybody from if anybody from crew is biting you, you should probably be checking their card. Your nibbling is not a bad thing sometimes oh i took the oh i made a mistake of taking like the the dregs uh sip of the spin drift and oh my god you know what's funny is when i was down at trader joe's i saw the spin drift and was like i'm not buying that shit that That shit looks weird. I'm glad I opted out. There was, when I was down at Target, the watermelon liquid death. So liquid death apparently has just gone into everything. It just flavored fucking everything.

And I was like, I want one of those. I don't want a whole 12 of those. So I opted one of those. I don't want a whole 12 of those. So I opted out of it. So if anybody wants to go ahead and buy some Liquid Death watermelon, I forget. I've had the melon one. Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. Yeah, I've had it. The 7-Eleven by my work had it.

And for some reason now they have 20-ounce cans. Yes, yes. by my work had it and they for some reason now they have 20 ounce can yes yes that's actually so i keep bringing them to the podcast thinking i'm gonna open one of these but the the damn thing is the size of my forearm like i'm not ready for that but i'm not quite prepared not ready for 20 ounce can fucking things the size of a missile like i'm not here for that that's actually why i keep saying i've got liquid death this week but i'm not opening it because i just don't have the time or patience to drink that much water there's beer to drink all right is there anything else we want to get to any more wrestling is that is that all your questions and uh no i i mean i had a serious one for you um and feel i mean hit me hit me you don't you don't have to answer it i

just i genuinely enjoy being a dad it's one of the greatest things in my life and I can tell that you do too yep I can tell that not only are you a good dad you genuinely enjoy being with your kids which is like you know one of the the greatest things so you know I was just thinking about like little things that I I always knew that I always knew that I wanted to be a dad and wanted to have kids and to show them this or that. But there are little things that I catch myself that I didn't realize were... I didn't realize I would love so much. Taking my daughter to gymnastics class and seeing her eyes light up as she's doing, you know, doing her gymnastics or, you know, my son just had his birthday and, you know, just seeing how like proud of himself he was that he was wearing this like birthday, you know, these are things that when I had envisioned previously,

what being a dad would look, would be like, they're just like little things that I didn't realize. And you, you'd spoken about something before about taking your son to like a botanical garden or something like how that was something that's special to you but i i didn't know if there was and you don't have to answer it you know this could just be a comment but uh if there's anything like little thing that you didn't realize that is just really special to you and and if you don't want to just want to say that that's something that i really you what I see um yeah I don't want to we always do this we always end this in this this this sappy serious um you guys got to bring some at least one comedy question guys I know this is a good one um so know, being a parent is, you're confronted with a lot of your own impatience.

You're a lot of, you're confronted with a lot of your own, like, fuck, how do I deal with this hard thing? Right? Like your child annoying you and you know, it's just a child and you can't deal with it. you know it's just a child and you can't deal with it um and then one day i was reading a story from somebody who had lost their children and they said specifically that their child used to love slamming the screen door and then every day their kid would wake up go outside and they would fucking slam that screen door and god we hated it we yelled at them and then we we tried to discourage it we got so mad we got so frustrated

and then our kid died and goddamn i would wish that kid would slam that door one more time that's all they wanted was to hear that kid slam that door one more time. I approach parenthood with that same approach. My only goal, guys, is to be a better dad than the dad I had. That's all I ever wanted, to be a better dad than the dad I had. My biological father was not great. The one that we live with now was the best version I could have had. But obviously, there's just things that you can learn, things that you can do differently. I think right now, my favorite part of being a father is genuinely, it is hard too, because they yell, they scream. I hate when he hurts his sister. He's four, she's two.

And he just, he's just mean to her sometimes. And I understand that that's like kid brain. Like they don't understand better, but like, I just want to teach you to be better. Like, don't, don't hurt your sister. Don't do that. So ultimately I just, I love when they show me something they're excited about. That's it. That's it it daddy show read me this book this fucking book sucks this book sucks but you want me to read it again for the third time today I'll try them and I'll get through it I'll do my best

because it's your favorite book right now. Hey, daddy, that song you played earlier, earlier I posted on Instagram, Diggy Diggy Hole from fucking Windrose. It was some stupid song. I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole. Diggy Diggy Hole. Dig, dig in a hole. And my kids sing that to me because they want to listen to it with me well hell yeah buddy we're gonna put that on again and again and again and we're gonna experience this same thing together it's it's the same reason my wife loves me it's when somebody is so so passionate about something they want to share with you that that's all they want to talk to you about for a few minutes. So, yeah, maybe that's what I'm getting at too.

That, that excitement, just loving seeing their excitement. Yeah. I didn't expect. I never would have expected that. Like, look at these fish.

They're fucking dumb fish. Who cares? But he has never seen fish before, and I will bring you to those fish every chance I get to get that excitement again. Yeah, very good. That's my

questions for you guys. Sorry, that was way too serious. Yeah, so is there something funny? So we have this game we like to play. I think we're good either. We just hit the three hour mark, boys. Keith, what do you think of Will Ferrell?

We did it. Will Ferrell is fucking shit. He is the coop of comedy. Not even that. I can't even say that. I don't think he's sold out. I think he's always been who he is. So that was a bad analogy.

Well, I don't know. I don't want to talk about will ferrell he's not funny he's kind of he's funnier than big matt oh yeah he probably has more followers than matt oh i had a but totally ruined it you know i had a bunch of questions for big matt i thought he was gonna be here well we like it if he was here but he just opted out you just uh what's what's one i'll i'll answer for matt i know i know him pretty well you know him and i you know we got to know okay okay but only if you do a boston accent oh god yeah here we go improv improv time for i can't even because i'm just going to have to raise my voice and my wife is going to already be pissed. My wife.

My wife. But I do think it's hilarious. My little brother is sending me mostly squat videos. My little brother doesn't lift. He doesn't follow any of that stuff. And he's sending me mostly squat videos. I'm like, yeah, this this dude's in our discord.

He never shows up to the podcast. That's great. What's not showing up to the podcast? All right, guys, where do we find him on in the future? Where do we find you, Keith? Give us where we find us. So website. Fucking orange glasses.

You're still wearing those fucking orange glasses I've taken them on and off a few different times you're gonna hurt yourself man unpaid intern podcast dot com I'm big Keith you can find me go follow my orange gym the no wine seller go follow Mr. Big Andrew Garrison

where at you can follow me at C-L-A-W-T-R-O-N on Instagram I think I'm pretty funny I don't post very much You like Throx? Yeah I like Throx

We all love Throx And I'm on the Discord So Big Garrison Andrew Perfect And Joey where are you at buddy? I'm on the, uh, the discord. So, um, get big garrison, Andrew. Perfect. And Joey,

where are you at buddy? Uh, Joey underscore Molesko, Emily CZ KO. And again, apparently most of you aren't following me and that's kind of fucking hilarious. Like I have guests coming up in the next two weeks that don't follow me. So that,

that was interesting to find out. And also, I'm just Big Joey. I'm the original Big Joey. There's other Big Joey's. I think there's like three now, isn't there? I think there's more than two. Yeah, but I'm the OG. Alright, boys.

We'll see you next Tuesday.