Unpaid And Underrated - 37: 037 : Pickle Bach

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Lara. This week they dive right into some great topics like beer and blanks, podcast meta discussions, books, the public sphere, hook grip, and pickles. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @lararunningwild (https://www.instagram.com/lararunningwild/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Lara.

and welcome back to episode 87 of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith and joined as always by my co-host here big joey hi i'm still here yes and we have a special guest this week and i will let her introduce you by her name herself so i don't butcher it and yeah it's because you can't say my name apparently it's lara yes lara very big nope well not that very big just so big lara very lara okay the biggest lara so as we were getting ready for this uh i want to point out that Keith cannot say Lara. No. So, Keith, what is the drummer for Metallica's name?

I have no clue. Lars? There you go. So do that, but with an A at the end. Lara. Nailed it. Okay. But not, yeah, so not Laura and not Lara.

Well, I know Laura's and Lara's and like everyone's very- And now you know a Lara. Okay. Actually, you really missed the opportunity to go and like everyone's, you know, a Laura. Okay. Actually, you really missed the opportunity to go Lars out there. That would have been way fun. I was just going to say the Laura's that minus the Z because this, this is in Canada. So we don't pronounce the,

we don't spell out a ZED. Okay. So good stuff. Well, now we're done picking on big Keith, at least for one segment. Uh, what are you drinking tonight?

Everybody. Or anyone. I've got liquid death. Nice death nice which one you get a big one jesus the regular one well yeah like they're they're all they're all the size of like a baby's arm now like there's so for some reason just gigantic i i had an ad on those like i think it was like a i think it was actually now it was a targeted ad um what is it like, the company called misfit something or other where they like take like stuff that's out of like almost, uh, not, not expired, but just kind of like products that have, uh, changed their manufacturing or their distribution. So they just have like all this old stock they want to get rid of. Um, so this other company buys it and sells it at like 30% off.

But I guess liquid death is bringing their manufacturing to America. I believe from what I saw on, on this is all based off the random ad that I saw yesterday or the day before because they're making their cans like 20% bigger. So now there's just a – This is the bigger. Yeah. So they're trying – so if you go to this specific company, the targeted ad got me on Facebook or Instagram. You can get them for 35% off, but then you've got to pay shipping and stuff. So it's probably a wash at that point.

We can start a new segment on what's bigger, the can or my beard. Just a heads up, this can actually won. Nice. That gives true meaning to the word tall boy. Laura, what do you got? I have something very fancy, which is just a bottle of North Port, Florida well water straight from the tap. High class. All right.

You're in Florida. Yes. All right. I got a new one this week. Uh, so it's a hop water. It's a mango hop water. And,

it's pretty good to give a 7.5 out of 10. Uh, it, it, it, it's got that like slight hint of alcohol, even though it's not alcoholic, but it's just like, I don't know. It's got that like slight hint of alcohol, even though it's not alcoholic, but it's just like,

I don't know. It's, I, I, I like hop waters more than I do like beer almost. I think like if I, as far as like it tastes, it's like beer adjacent,

but doesn't taste like piss. I don't know. But, uh, are you drinking, you drinking the wrong beers? Like, are you somebody peeing in your beer?

I don't know. I just give me my Mick altar, give me water. So, but like the handful of IPAs I've had over the years, uh, when I used to travel a lot with some of my buddies that were big into the IPA stuff,

I just, they were always like weird, like pumpkin beer or something. I don't know. Just shit that did not jive well with me. We could honestly, I think, uh,

if we ever just have a guest bail at the last second, we'll just have a big long talk about beer and i'll give you all the ins and outs of all the stuff i know and i've tried and hate that's why i drink the same beer almost all the time now yeah but i know you said like i wouldn't like hops but i don't know this this these hops the hot or the name brand of it just hop water yeah water i'm a fan of i'd have to try i think i've tried three of them now and they've all been like a 7 out of 10 or above. That's because they're watering them down. Like, a real juicy IPA is going to be the most hoppy thing you've ever had.

Right? Because the Hop Water is watered down and then added ingredients. Well, that's why it's called Hop Water, not Hop. Correct? Touché. Touché. I have a fun story about that one time we were doing a um we're doing a beer a brewery tour brewery the steam whistle tour up here in toronto we've done it multiple times every time we go to toronto because they had this thing where like your ticket only gets you two samples but if you're there during the week they don't care they'll just free pour you as long as you have a bracelet

so if we were going to like a concert or something we'd always go to the steam whistle brewery and just just get all you know liquored up before the the thing and when they i think the third time we went we brought a couple of our like friends that hadn't gone before and they did something new where they handed out uh samples of hops and barley so you could see them taste or see them smell them and then they said but warning don't taste them they're awful so sure enough i turned to my friend and i go dude take a bite make him look like a dick right out of super troopers right take a bite make him look like a dick show him that it doesn't taste that bad my buddy takes a bite oh my god he starts gagging and coughing and he's drinking beer to swish it down he's like that was the worst and then i swear to god within 30 seconds you just see like because we're passing

down the cup you see this guy at the end of the line immediately hand his beer to his partner and bolt for the washroom. And then my other buddy goes, well, you know what he just did. But anyway, don't, don't eat raw barley and hops. So how was, uh, how was a big Scott Dodds, uh, blanks fitting you this week, Joey? Oh, uh, so I'm actually kind of pissed if I'm being honest with you. Cause larges are now getting a little small on me i don't know if i'm just washing them too hard or something but i i i guess this it depends on the blank right because this is this is nice this is cozy this feels like what a medium used to feel like and then i've got some other larges that hang off me i kind of you know i like those but no this, yeah, I've got the red one that he sent me, the Deadlift Dungeon.

Strong Man Jim. It's got skulls on it. I was like, yeah, today would be a good day to wear that one. Nice. What about you, Lara? Nice. I think I got it. You're going to go on the whole episode, isn't it?

Yes. Excellent. nice i think i gotta go on the whole episode isn't it yes excellent uh i'm wearing my comfiest shirt and it's from my gym well not my gym the gym i go to nice house of long oh nice yeah good stuff i'm uh rocking out a little home home gym con t-shirt tonight uh in honor of the you know our affiliate link with them so So go ahead and use code unpaid if anyone's interested in going to Home Gym Con. We actually had a Jake sent me a DM today saying someone had just signed up for that. So appreciate whoever that was.

Hope to see you all there in April. That was pretty exciting. Last week's episode. DJ Cumberbund. So I was amped about that one and i got my overrated underrated question on there because i was the one that suggested macho man oh nice we knew what the answer was gonna be but like i wanted to hear it yeah um yeah great episode dude seems like he's

a lot of fun i think tanner even explained the thing i always talk about. I love when they get a guest on and the guest thinks this is going to be like super serious and gym talk. And then like you almost hear every episode where the guest kind of clues in that, Oh no, this is going to be silly and they're not going to ask me anything that I thought they were going to ask me. And I enjoy that,

that Tanner referenced that because it Cmerbund was just like immediately like relaxed and having fun so that was cool i like the story about where his name came from that made me laugh out loud it's just so random if you were wearing a cummerbund you'd be dead why would i wear that yeah it was like a was it was that like a sawmill or a construction site or something on the butcher yeah he was working in a butcher shop or something. Either way, I'm going to go ahead and give that five Masonomics Jim iPod Touches.

It's a good rating. I enjoyed it. I'm definitely not familiar with who he was other than the episode where they talked about him last year and I still didn't really get it. I thought he was actually an artist, not just,

I don't know. Like I still kind of don't really get what he does. Like I've watched a couple of his things. I did watch the, the, the pants feet, feet, pants,

whatever the fuck that was. I'm a Tanner on that one. I will laugh every time somebody brings it up. It was just like, I don't know. Like I listened to music so little, like I kind of, I mean,

I don't know. Like for me, I want my music to be music, not a parody, but that's just, that's me. Like, I don't, I don't know like i listen to music so little like i kind of i mean i don't know like for me i want my music to be music not a parody but that's just that's me like i don't i don't know he's uh i'd say he's not doing parodies yeah well it's the mashup thing what he does what he does well like it was they were well created i just don't get why i guess um but i mean if he's you know i did feel bad for him because he said he wasn't able to monetize that was like damn dude you're putting all this out like what are you like if you for as many followers and views as you have you're not making like tens of thousands

of dollars off monetization on youtube like where are you getting any income like what is his i would have been curious to see like what is if he has a full-time job if he is a legitimate dj that like like goes and still hustles on the weekends and shit like does he play his own shit like does he get hired to do his own stuff or is he solely just put out content and but if he does that like unless he pushes it all unless he like only has his money from his patreon and shit like i don't know how he's making ends meet so that would have been interesting to learn a little more about but you could tell they were excited i don't i don't uh a lot of episodes you can kind of tell maybe they're not overly it's not that they're not excited for the guests but it's like it's people that are just like you know fitness adjacent and kind of in their field so it's people they might

have already met or they've met their friends and it's just like it's just you know talking to people that are already in your circle whereas this was like someone completely out of their wheelhouse and someone that they both fanboyed over. So it was very neat to see them kind of giddy to have like to interview someone for the first time, like out of their wheelhouse. So I did enjoy that. So for all that, for all those reasons, we'll go ahead and give it the five Masonomics gym iPod touches. Laura, that's up to you. What would you think? laura that's up to you what what would you think well i i have to confess i haven't finished it yet because i was trying to i was hate reading a book and i just had to finish it so like cut into my podcast time but what i did what i did finish about halfway through it's for sure five

ipod touches that's that's that fair. That's a good rating. We'll go ahead and we'll let Big Kevin tie that up and see what the mean, medium, and mode is for us. We'll get back to you next week with that average. Did you guys see the seven days of chicken bakes that Tanner has been orchestrating?

That is the most outrageous thing I think I've ever seen. I could not imagine eating up to five chicken bakes for seven days in a row without being allowed to consume anything else other than like water and Gatorade and shit. Like, if you're listening to this, I know it's too late, but do not drink Gatorade. Don't you don't need any. Oh, yeah. You don't need like, oh, my God. If I were them, I'd be drinking greens.

need like oh my god if i were them i'd be drinking greens i'd be like i'd be smuggling some of those greens and just to make sure i'm getting any type of fiber because it's like uh but tanner's insane so it made me laugh so hard when i saw that he was thinking of doing it it's not like a really bad idea i mean if they can get content out of it, even if it's only a reel, but if that reel pops off and they get a few hundred thousand views or something, and that equals 10 t-shirt sales and 5 podcast downloads, I mean, it's worth it.

It's only going to cost them under $500. I think initially it was 5 per day, and at 5 per day times 7 days, it was only going to be a couple hundred bucks. But I think he pulled those restrictors off, So if one of them wanted to fucking buy like 20, like, I mean, regardless, I can't imagine it's going to cost them more than 600 bucks to feed off all three of them. And I don't think they're all three going to fucking go all the whole week. I think someone's going to tap out like,

or they'll just, they might not publicly tap out, but they'll just be like, yeah, I'm good. I'm just going to eat the one a day and go back to normal stuff. But I would be curious. At least one of the guys is crew that hasn't been on the podcast. We might be able to get big. I always butcher his name, but I know his name. But the one that looks like, you know, the more muscular version of Big Matt. Sam?

Yes, Sam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Big Sam hasn't been on the podcast. So I think I would say if Big Sam can hold out all seven days, we'll get him on the podcast in the next couple of months and, you know, have him tell us about his chicken bake fiasco.

And the poop story has got to be epic coming out of that because I don't know, they're either going to be nonstop or they're not going to happen. Like it's going to be one of the two. Like there's no way you're staying regular with putting that in your body and only that in your body like something's got to change i don't want to think about that yeah that's what i meant was a bad idea yes to do that to do it to eat it i mean it sounds like no yeah that would definitely play with my intestines. Not fun. Anybody get a chance to watch the new YouTube video that Tanner put out today?

Fun story. I fell asleep through it. I was laying on the couch and thought, no, I got to get ready to watch this. But I at seven o'clock this morning and turned to Morgan or whatever time I woke up and I was like, today's going to be long. I'm already tired and I've been up for half an hour. And sure enough, I got home from work and ate dinner. And then I sat on the couch and said, all right, I'm going to watch this video. And then I was out and I woke up to the, because obviously it's Tanner's voice the whole time.

I woke up in the middle of the DJ cummerbund because it went directly into that afterwards. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. It sounds pretty funny. Not that the video was boring or anything. I was just so exhausted. It doesn't matter what was on the tv i was passing out yeah i feel that i wish they could sometimes i wish they would come out at like three o'clock on on thursdays because usually by four o'clock i'm already home and i'm already like trying to like do like you know watch

tv with my wife or something to where if it came out a little bit earlier in the day i could just watch it while i was like I could watch it in the background or just have it playing while I'm driving home or something. Not that I, like, I don't want to necessarily be watching YouTube while I'm driving, but I can just have it on in the background and consume the majority of it that way

just for the content. But I'm glad to at least put them out on Thursdays. I think for a while they were doing Fridays. So I'm going to just go out on a limb and say, just for our ability to review them weekly they they have switched to a consistent thursday release specifically for us so we have some more content under our general topics and even if that's not true i'm gonna believe it is either way so that's where i'm at yeah i haven't seen it yet either my youtube watching is usually in the mornings like before

the kids go to school and so tomorrow morning is probably gonna happen there you go uh one thing i did like about it uh i was just literally looking it up and then completely forgot to mention it but my wife was like uh what's uh what's that tattoo on tanner's cab mean and i was like well i'm not sure let me ask him and the fact that i'm friends with tanner it's pretty easy to get an answer you know i think i had an answer from him and you know on on youtube in like like four minutes and uh it it meant strength and then he was like well at least that at least that's what they told me 20 years ago but who knows so i get a kick out of that when i had to screenshot it and had to

screenshot it and send it to my wife and she was like oh you really asked him i was like yeah why not you asked me i gotta ask him yeah why't I? Yeah, makes sense to me. All right. The Glaze Search new feature. Is there only one new feature? Well, I'm sure there's 27, but Nate just I'm pretty sure Nate has to update his resume on LinkedIn that he's like, you know, you and you you know, administrator as well as the Glaze Search administrator and then like, you know, list all the features that he's created for it specifically. Uh,

no, but I think what he added this week was you can, uh, just get a random movie, uh, rec recommendation. Uh, it's one of the features on there now.

So it's just, it'll pull one of the 4,000 or so ratings to just, you know, give you a, Hey, well watch this. So I don't know where he pulled that one up out of his butt at, but,

uh, you know, he seems to be having fun with it and we're not going to stop him. So it's just, uh, you know, I don't think we could pulled that one up out of his butt at, but, you know, he seems to be having fun with it and we're not going to stop him. So it's just, you know, I don't think we could. No, I don't think we tried. Like there's there's so many other things like like we've been trying to get a you know, we've been trying to get someone to make up a I am crew video. And Nate's over here spending 17 hours on glaze search feature that that he's going to use himself. on glaze search feature that, that he's going to use himself basically. But you know, we, we, we, we can't get, I, I am crew to go viral yet, but we're maybe someday we'll help some, someone out

there will help us make a YouTube video. Cause I think Tanner specifically said if all, if literally if someone makes a video, they'll post it, you know, to YouTube. So this is, this is the challenge to any crew listening that just wants to literally make some kind of a reel or a slideshow or any kind of video? And, you know, we'll get the IM crew music in the background and, you know, it'll, you know, see if we can get it to go viral on YouTube or at least make it easier for people to access and listen to. Yeah, yeah, I definitely get a recording of it with a proper microphone and backing track too might might not hurt but that sounds harder than it is to say well speaking of hard are you doing some hypertrophy work that's uh probably not the easiest no i know i it's like so i was doing this i was doing yesterday's workout and it's like week three of hypertrophy and it's like oh you're testing your your six rep max today

right rp10 i'm like okay and i do it and then it still has me doing another 36 fucking reps and so i was just like it's hard work yeah i'm not like i'm not like sweating and dying or like i'm not upset i was just in my head thinking like i it can somebody who understands this better than me explain the benefit of completely exhausting yourself and then still doing another six by six i don't like my head can't grasp the logic because either a then you didn't exhaust yourself at rpe 10 you did not do a 10 rep yeah you didn't do your max because you had more to do after or those sets are gonna suck yeah and essentially the rule i got or the answers i got from the crew was stop whining you're doing it wrong you're doing this wrong but i was like no i'm literally just curious as to like what

the methodology is behind that right because in my head like it just doesn't make sense and i got no good answers except for jake finally ended up just private messaging me being like okay here is the thing from juggernaut that explains that i was like that's all i wanted like it's i wasn't sitting here like i can't do this it's hard work it was more like wig is there a point to doing this or is juggernaut just trying to kill me so i just thought that was pretty funny it sparked a whole it looks like two days of conversations and i'll keep up with all that on there i was just like oh they're still talking about rpe and sets yeah all i really wanted to know that's all i really wanted and then also the next day i'm also testing my six rep squat and it's like well

yeah like it's just one of those things i did for me i don't understand this i just do juggernaut what it tells me and things are going okay i was just like what is the science behind utterly exhausting myself and then doing more and then like by the end of that bench session, I had done over 50 reps. And that's insane to me. Yeah, that's a lot. Because like by the end of it, I'm just like. So I was it. That was it.

It was just the crew not being helpful for a few minutes there. Well, I mean, it's just one thing we can count on for the crew. It's to literally come through on the most irrelevant shit that we don't need help with. And like make memes and like be very insightful and and have a million comments about something that really doesn't matter but when you like actually have something that that matters or you ask for help sometimes just like crickets yeah well maybe hypertrophy isn't for you that's not at all what i suggested here like let me let me answer the question you didn't ask uh but no my my my buddy big chris does uh you know the juggernaut down here in the basement with me on sundays and i'm just like

you've been squatting for like an hour and you're still doing sets but like in in the back off percentages are only like 10 less yeah whereas like if my coach does something like that and like we are going to do back offs like it's like 40 less or 30 30 less because i can't like my body won't be able to handle necessarily like all right give me one top set like one heavy top set and then the rest is just fucking like like like 60 hypertrophy not fucking 80 hypertrophy because my joints ain't gonna handle that shit yeah but i'm also getting stronger like they're obviously noticeable changes since i started using juggernaut so i'm not gonna like say it's not working but it's just like it logically it didn't make sense to me

yeah right like run for your life for 20 minutes okay now let's go for a brief jog no like that's not everybody's gonna be like fuck off dude uh anyway uh last point before we get our guest on or before we do our ad read here uh nate sent me a really fun podcast today and i thought this was this was career relevant speaking of you saying you don't understand uh dj cummerbund uh and essentially it was uh the art of manliness which i don't know if you guys have listened to i've never heard of it i'm surprised and the guest on there wrote a book about reclaiming fun in your life and how important that is um you know to to pursue to to measure and to actively think about and he said that it reminded him a lot of my approach to almost everything but particularly i'm imagining he's thinking of

my approach to powerlifting meets and what i do in the crew is just like basically just having fun for the sake of fun and how much healthier that is as adults because we don't do it you know we we tend to think that everything requires a purpose and everything requires some sort of, um, higher level thinking. And there's so many of us. And, and, you know, if you're listening to this and this, this, if this resonates with you, then sometimes, you know, maybe it just got to give in and just be utterly and purposelessly silly and fun for a little while. So I do want to encourage everybody to think about that and think about the last time you genuinely had fun and you were at your happiness.

And, you know, we don't have to do that right here, but like, if you're thinking and you're listening and, you know, you're going about your day afterwards, think about that. And if we don't have to do that right here but like if you're thinking and you're listening and you know you're going about your day afterwards think about that and if you don't have an answer that's fine that's not your fault but maybe the next time it comes up it's time to plan for some fun so big big up to nate i have a question about that okay so so i don't know if you're familiar with the types like types of fun like type one fun type two fun she she labeled them as real fun and junk fun is what is what her labels were okay well it sounds like i'm down for both of those types of fun but type one fun is you're having fun while you're doing it you know you're having fun and then when you're finished

you look back and think wow that was a lot of fun type two fun when you're doing it maybe you're having fun. And then when you're finished, you look back and think, wow, that was a lot of fun. Type two fun, when you're doing it, maybe you're not realizing that you're having fun, but then after their fact, you're like, wow, that was a lot of fun. So I would say like doing some sort of athletic endeavor that's challenging, type two fun, maybe in the moment you're like in pain or whatever but then when you're done you're like yeah that was awesome that was fun maybe maybe a six rep max on on bench exactly and then doing more after that type two fun uh yeah um there's this author she called it like real fun which um i think she had three things i have to go back and re-listen because I was driving, but it's like a genuine connection with somebody else,

feelings of joy. And I think I forget what the third one was. She said that in almost all instances, nobody had fun alone. That in every story where somebody said they were having genuine fun, it's because they were having a connection to somebody around them um laughter was a big part of it so like i would say the last time i had like real

genuine fun was the power lifting me dancing around singing my stupid don't shit on the platform song like that was fun for me but then she also had junk fun which is the stuff that we think is fun at the time and then at the the end, it doesn't really last or resonate. So social media, movies, television, like that stuff's not real fun. We are just wired to enjoy it because dopamine and all that shit. She also wrote a book about detaching from your phone. But I think I'll read the phone one before I read the fun one because. Just make sure you download it on your phone and read it on your phone so you know never never anyway we have this game we like to play yeah just want to thank nate for that it was nice

um i haven't even told morgan yet but it was um i always say that the nicest thing you could do for somebody is see them and i felt seen by Nate there and that was really awesome thanks Nate yeah I enjoyed that, I'll briefly tie on to where you were talking about joy, I definitely felt some joy last night in my gym, we started letting the cats downstairs in the basement if someone's down there with them to supervise them because it's not really a you know that there's still shit i need to do to quote unquote cat proof it from kittens because they're still getting into

shit they shouldn't be and i have to like put away some certain chemicals and stuff and just like there's just like loose construction materials and stuff i got to get out of the way basically but uh like they were both kind of just chilling and got some really good pictures and i broke out some of uh uh or other you know our deceased cats uh toys that i had basically put in a box a year ago and that was kind of the fact that they would open that without like completely breaking down or anything because i was doing it for a purpose to like give them a toy to play with in the basement i thought that was like i was really happy that i could do that uh and then like watching back my videos of me talking to them like before i was getting ready to do my set and just like, you know, if they were looking at me, I would literally

like, like just like pause for 30 seconds to go pet them or something like all caught on video. So like watching that back when I was trying to edit my clips last night, I was like, oh, I was, it was pretty fun. So having a little bit of that back. So I will say, cause when you had mentioned like that, everyone only has fun with other people. I will add in that, like, I think, you know, you can include pets into that and you can

definitely have joy and happiness and fun with other people. I will add in that. Like, I think, you know, you can include pets into that and you can definitely have joy and happiness and fun with, with pets, uh, you know, sometimes more than humans, honestly. Yeah.

I mean, connection. When I say other people in general, I probably just meant other living things or even sometimes connection to like the sun and stuff like that. It was also mentioned. I know I enjoyed being in the sun more than anything. Anyway, Larry, Larry, big Laura, Keith, stuff like that it was also mentioned i know i enjoyed being in the sun more than anything anyway larry lar big lara keith lara real big as i as i as i you know inadvertently said earlier do you have an ad read for us today i do i do i think it kind of you know fits into the

conversation we've been having as well because if, because if you're looking for a podcast and you want to hear high-level stimulating discourse with the greatest minds in strength sport, maybe you should check out Table Talk. But if you're just looking to have a good time, laugh a little, have some tomfoolery. Some silly goose moments. Well then, massonomics is where you need to be. Tomfoolery, that's a good one.

That works. I like the misdirect there, a little bait and switch. I enjoyed that. She's pulling a zinger on us. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. All right.

Should we get our guest on the horn? Yeah. Let's kick all these looky-loos out and see if we can't track down the guest. Okay. I believe they have logged in yet. Big Lara, is that you? That's me. All right.

Welcome to Unpaid and Underrated, the silly podcast about nothing. So I guess the first step, the first question, you know, you are active, but I would say that you're not overly active in the Discord. So a lot of the questions we're going to be asking are new, and hopefully some people listening get to know somebody who's you know what we call the lurkers um yes yes um so first question is what brought you to massonomics it was it jordan um probably inadvertently because the gym jordan has you know as most gyms do have well you know cool gyms have banners and whatnot and massonomics banners are of course

in the gym and i am i'm never one to like have a question and not find an answer to it so i was like well what's this massonomics and then i find out this is a podcast and so um i love podcasts so of course i have to start listening and like i'm pretty particular about the podcasts i will give my time to just because like if your audio is bad like i'm sorry i just in this day and age like i just can't yeah he's plugging your microphone the last five episodes should be money yeah much better but um uh so that like hooked me from the beginning that's like step one and then i am always down for a silly goose time and so then i realized like oh this i mean exactly what i i said earlier like this is this is the place that

i need to be when i just want to like listen to some friends have a conversation you found your people I found my people okay so um on discord you're obviously just big larp what's your discord what's your uh instagram can we can we seek you out yeah so it's lara running wild and l-a-r-a there's no u um and i have to say the like the great irony of being big lara in this setting is that i'm only five feet tall and i compete in like the 114 class so i'm like definitely not big but i'm big in spirit when you're here you're big yep there we go we are all uh big affiliate uh so what's the time frame on that like how long how long ago do you think actually uh like when do you think you

first uh sought out the podcast it's hard to say because my relationship with time is pliable um and i i don't i have a really bad I have a really hard time keeping track of like when things happen. But I know if I like try to think back, it was probably the beginning of 2022. Okay. I think so. Yeah. At least a couple of years. Like I, part of me after booking you was kind of

afraid. I was like, Oh man, did she just join like a month ago and only listen to a couple episodes? Cause like, I wasn't sure if like, uh, you had only joined when Jordan Wong did his episode, like what, maybe two or three months ago. And so I was just, but it was like, you know, we, you know, either way we were going to run with it. And I was kind of intrigued to be like, well, what's, what's it like to interview someone that might possibly be that new to crew uh well new to mass economics in general so new to crew but at least two years listening to the podcast so that that that actually jived with a lot of people yeah there's i mean there's people from 2016 all the way up to just like you know even this year so it doesn't really matter you're all crew you're in

the discord you know you're a supporting member so you're just as welcome to be here as anybody else. And we just, we just like that backstory. Essentially. It's always nice to kind of see where people, the fact that everyone still gets it, no matter if you really came on a month ago, two years ago,

six years ago, like, like 95 to 98% of the people still get it. Like there might be a couple of people that just kind of don't, and they probably will never make it on the podcast and eventually see themselves out of the discord i'm sure but like i feel like we all charge back yeah i feel like we all pretty much get it and the ones that don't are pretty obvious yeah i well i'm i'm kind of confused to begin with how somebody gets in the crew without understanding what's going on because i mean it's not, it's not like we're hiding

the fact that we're not hiding what we are. You really have to have some mental gymnastics to get into the crew not understanding what the crew is about. These guys are doing a chicken bake challenge for seven days.

I better get in there and be real serious. Let me pick fights in Discord with everybody. Let me like call people petty multiple times that are like established members of crew. There's definitely some of that in the last six months. I'm like, oh, okay. You just want to pick a fight with people. Okay. Yeah. And that doesn't usually

last long. No. Oh, yeah. Somebody must have called you petty. Yes. I remember that, but that doesn't usually last long no oh yeah somebody must have called you petty yes i remember that but i go i suspect it was one million percent a thing and then it and then i like stated my reasons of why i had that opinion and then he reiterated that i was petty and i was like oh okay we're not gonna get along so i'm just gonna block you. Well, we can talk about that later. I would say I don't necessarily disagree sometimes. Oh, yeah.

But you're. Yeah, it was. I'm allowed. That instance, someone you could just tell they were picking a fight, just picking a fight. And I didn't need that drama in my life. Only I'm all about the joy and, you know, being silly and. And the fun. Happy. Yeah, the fun.

He went. That wasn't fun. and I need fun in my life. That wasn't fun, being called names. So, Laura, have you purchased anything from Mathonomics yet? Yeah, I have. And I have to tell you, my crowning achievement as far as purchases go, my husband just got into powerlifting and his first meet was in December. And so he's just like the chillest guy, like no fuss, no muss, go with the flow. And he's like, I need a singlet. I'm like, oh, don't worry about it. I'll buy you a singlet. He's like, okay, great. So I get him the deadliftlift socks i get him the massonomics singlet and so

he's like yeah this fits fine not knowing you know one thing from the other and so he's completely decked out for his first meet in massonomics so that's definitely my favorite favorite purchase that's amazing that's what you got that's what got you on my radar and i was like oh i'm gonna add her to the list because that's just that that's great. Like that's so like influencing the spouse to just be decked out and, you know, crew attire is very cool to see. But he doesn't, he still doesn't even know. He's not going to know until he listens to this podcast, what I did. So adding myself out.

And it's funny for you, which is great. Oh, I think you've learned anything. There's a lot of us that spend a lot of money to make ourselves laugh. So when a, when a random person, me, uh, DM to him asking for all,

you know, pertinent details about you, did he get that it was for massonomic slash unpaid and underrated? Or was it just like, Oh, it's just a random podcast for work. Like, does he have any clue that it's about what it's about?

Well, I think what I told him was I was at one podcast that Jordan was on because and it's possible he thinks I'm talking about table talk. I don't really clarify. So we'll see what happens when it when he listens. He puts two and two together. Well, sorry to disappoint. This is not table talk. I will not be sniffing every three seconds into the microphone.

That's so bad. That still gives me, that was worse than what Nate did with his freaking ASMR read. Oh God. never noticed it on table talk and and then somebody pointed it out and i still didn't notice it and then i was kind of listening to some more of the massonomics on table top last last week and just he did it once and i i have a thing i don't like body fluids and i don't like like human sounds like my kid likes to go like for fun and it just it grates me i'm working on it and doing some stuff to get through that but he did that while i was driving and i was just like nope nope i had to go listen to something else uh well i know joey usually doesn't like talking about what people do for a living but i'm very intrigued by your job so we

can talk about it as little or as much as you'd like uh just do you want to tell the listeners what you're currently doing for a living yeah so um So, um, it's great cause I work for myself, so I'm my own boss, so I can't get myself into trouble. Um, but I do, um, for, to put it as succinctly as possible. I do like podcasts, uh, manage it, managing and, um, like stuff related to that. So I, uh, I feel very deep in my heart when you were saying about like the microphone,

like the mouth noises on the microphone. So I have to deal with like a lot of that editing and that's just a sound you never unhear. It just like lives in your head forever. So yeah, that's what I do um lets me work my own hours get the kids off school get the kids from school get them to you know all the places they need to go um yeah i've been doing that for a while now and then get on get on unpaid and underrated and think these fucking amateurs.

I would never judge. Um, are you, Keith, go ahead. Do you have a background in actually, have you, did you have your own podcast?

Have you been on podcasts before? Like where did, how do you get into this? If you don't already have kind of a gift to have your feet in the water in podcasting world, I'd imagine, right? Well, not exactly.

Okay. So this is, this is how it happened back in 2020 been like in the before times i um i was working for a chinese company and then you know something happened with the world and i very quickly saw like that the Chinese government changed some laws about remote workers and I was like this isn't a good situation for me so I need to like get a pivot out of this position so I had a friend who she does virtual assistant work and she's like you should do it you know they're versatile. You can kind of make your own gig out of it. And I was like, all right. So I started doing that on the side and it started off very random with like, just like the most, like I had a guy who ran a pool company.

I did like random tasks for him. And then eventually I started getting into clients that I wanted to work with. And one of my very first clients, she had a podcast, but I wasn't doing her podcast for her. And then over time, she's like, I want to do less of like the managing of my podcast. Do you want to learn how to do this? I was like, yeah. managing of my podcast. Do you want to learn how to do this? I was like, yeah. And then I figured out, Hey, I really enjoy this aspect of what I'm doing. And I already had some other clients, um, who one came to me, she's like, Hey, do you know anybody who does podcasts? Cause I think about starting one. I was like, well, actually, um, right. And so then it just kind of happened organically and then like word of mouth. And then,'s kind of how it grew. Just referrals from current clients referring me to their friends or like the friend of the friend. And yeah. Well, I mean, as your husband knows, you are on the Table Talk podcast. So we have a huge audience. So if you want to go ahead right plug your business your website or anything feel free to now yeah so i'm um i'm pretty low-key as far as like marketing um uh you can contact me through my instagram um i do have a website it's charm or virtual is my website um

you can also contact me through my website but yeah yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, that, that, that was, that was awesome. I was very intrigued by that. I don't know if I think, I think I cut Joey off earlier. So if you get a follow-up, I will, I will tag myself out for the next round. Uh, well, I just also wanted to point out, Nate, don't get any ideas. We are still the unpaid crew here. Um, is there any clients you think, um, we would recognize that you'd want to talk about or do you kind of want to keep that close to the chest uh you probably wouldn't recognize any of them

they're like all in well they're all in like the health and wellness space but like more bodybuilding and like physical therapy so like adjacent worlds but not like coming gold i would say no that's fair just either my my hey wait a minute it's like i know that one i mean again you could have said a name and i would have been like go great and probably have no clue what it is anyway yeah smile and nod this might be a stat you're familiar with but probably not uh as um how many active podcasts you think there are like currently in the world? Oh my god, I don't even know. What do they consider active?

Napoleon, there's no way to know that. Have you put out an episode in the last six months? Have you put out two episodes in the last six months? It's millions. Is it literally millions or is it hundreds of thousands? It has to be. Every white guy with a microphone has one. They're out there recording

their hot takes and putting them out there and getting canceled. I bet it's millions. It's gotta be millions. Seriously. It has to be. That's, that's crazy. And we are,

you know, the fact that we're pulling in a couple hundred people a week, you know, that's, that's good enough for me. I'm happy. I'm still shocked about that. Yeah.

Well, we'll see if it's, I don't know. I know there's definitely at least 30 people that listen every Tuesday. You know, I'm sure there's a 200 people that have it downloaded. Like it's just cause all you have to do is subscribe and it downloads, but like, are you listening? I don't know, but it's still pretty cool though. I'm happy. We're still doing this, you know, nine months later or whatever it's been. No big things come in this year though. We're going to, we'll bring them back.

So the question here is, where do you live? What are you from? Oh, yeah, typo. God damn it. No, I think that's perfect. That's perfect. What am I from? I am from Florida.

And as being from Florida, that is what I am from. So, no, that's totally accurate. You nailed it. Well, that was segment number am from. So no, that's totally accurate. You nailed it. Well, that was, that was a segment number two of picking on Keith. I had that one coming for sure. Yeah. That was, that was self-inflicted. Yeah. I was just a little surprised there.

So I'm, I'm, I'll read a little bit of this. This is your life kind of session here. I'll read a little bit of this. This is your life kind of session here. So you used to bodybuild and do bikini comps, and then decided to start powerlifting and you had your first meet in 2022. Yes. But you had another meet in 2017. Yeah. And the quote here is I know nothing about it except she didn't like it. So tell us and Jordan, why you didn't like it. So I am the type of person who like, I get an idea in my head.

I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. I know nothing about this, but I'm going to do it. So back in 2016, I got to like backtrack a little to give you the full picture of how just like dumb I am with jumping into things. Back in 2016, I sprained my ankle. And then because I come from a running background. So I sprained my ankle. I then ran two races that weekend on the sprained ankle because I didn't want to not run them.

And then like I really fucked up my ankle. And then it was weeks before I could run and I had a cousin or I have a cousin and she is a bodybuilder she's like why don't you do a competition since you can't run I was like okay so I hopped into like a prep for a bikini show and I was like well that was fun now what and then I was like well I see these power lifting things let's try one of those and um I did like cursory research to like find a meet sort of near me and I tried to and I know nothing about power lifting at the time so I tried to find a local coach because like I don't have like guat form or bench like never in my life had I

binged and so I try to find a coach who's local to me so I can maybe like get some like hands-on help and I find one guy who was in my town and I'm sure he was like a great coach for a certain type of person but he wasn't the coach that I needed. And so my experience with that coach was like, just not what I wanted. Just too aggressive. And then what was the. No, like I'm a, I'm a person that has lots of questions. Okay.

And maybe he's not, he's like the, just do what I say type of coach. Like, don't you trust the process? Like, no no not necessarily or at least want to understand why i'm doing what i'm doing um so i finished my training cycle with him went to the meet it was uh and like i'll say this but i'm not like talking shit about any federations or anything this is just like the fact of what it was it was a usa pl meet and it was very like there's no music playing i didn't know anybody like nobody was like the crowd wasn't involved nobody was cheering for anybody and it was just like i don't know if

it was at church or something and i was like okay well i I did that. I don't ever want to do that again. That sucks. So then I, like, at this time, this was, I don't know, over a year of not running seriously. So I was like, well, I'm going to get back to running now. And then COVID happened. And I had just achieved, like, January of 2020, I had just achieved a achieved a like really big milestone for my running goals. And then I was like working towards another one in May. And then all of the races get canceled. And I was like, fuck. So I'm like, well, I have some equipment in my garage.

I can start lifting again. And then I jumped back into bodybuilding. And then I did that for two years and then got really tired. I realized that I do not have the natural genetics to be competitive in bodybuilding. So I was like, well, I can get stronger. And Northport, where we live, it's a pretty tiny town. And North Port, where we live, it's a pretty tiny town. And our gym situation at the time, it wasn't that great.

So I was going to an anytime fitness just because that's what was there. And my friend who I met at the gym, her name is Meg. She ended up getting uninvited from the gym because she was using a tripod. And yeah, so she was using a tripod and she's like, fuck this. I heard my friend told me about this, this other gym down the road. Come with me. I was like, yeah, fuck Anytime Fitness. fuck anytime fitness and so welcome then i walk into jordan's gym and uh saw everybody power lifting and all these really strong women i'm like oh my god this is way better than not eating or getting lean so uh then my daughter um at the time she was 10, I think, if the math's math, she was 10.

And she randomly started asking to come to the gym with me. And Jordan was like, yeah, of course she can come to the gym. And then she gets into powerlifting and does a powerlifting meet. And I was like, well, my daughter's doing it. I mean, I got to do it. Maybe I'll have a better experience this time. Sure enough, it was like night and day. And so now we're powerlifting and having a lot of fun.

Which federation was the better, like that you ended up having better fun in? Well, the federation that they're, so Jordan puts on the meets and he does RPS, but I've come to realize it's not necessary. I don't think it's necessarily the federation i think it's the meat director 100 and and i would say i think that there are times there's jokes to be made about the difference between some of the federations because i'm in wrpf and one of the running jokes is that we are just so laid back and lazy and like just fat guys lifting whereas so like us apl and IPF and all that are like serious people.

So I was just wondering if that's kind of what happened there. But it is. It's usually the meat director for sure. Yeah. Even the gym, the crowd. It's kind of insane that like you were like lifting in front like of people that weren't happy to be there. That's so weird. Yeah.

And like there was a video I had found and like posted on my Instagram of like my final deadlift from that meet at the USAPL meet. And then my final deadlift from one of Jordan's meets. You got to listen to it with the sound on because you could just hear a pin drop in that first video. Final third attempt deadlift. Not a sound. You lift it in a golf stick. Oh, yes. Like golf claps or snaps you know snaps yes very good

lift so three white lights i would i would i would like to do one meet like that just utterly silent like you just you just walk out you lift and you put it down and you nod and you leave and that is literally what it was it would be like because you know if i saw it coming i think it would be hilarious but like if it was my first meet i would hate it like there would be like this isn't what i want to do with my time so that's i can see the value in it from a funny perspective but not from like a legitimate usapl perspective yeah So I won't be doing that again. All right. So there's the story.

Jordan, if you're listening, now you know. You saved. You saved powerlifting. You saved powerlifting. So do you and your family train together? Like, do you actually have it to where your schedules line up that, like, you, your husband, your daughter can actually go to the gym together as a family and kind of like train together and do like sets together is everyone kind of on their own time we have some days where we can go all together um he

like saturdays is like squat saturdays at the gym so um we'll usually get to go on saturdays together and then like sundays the kids come with me and we all lift. But usually Michael's, my husband's working, but yeah, it's cool because now my son is, he just turned 10 and he signed up for his first meet in June. So like now we're,

we're all doing the meet in June. It's just, everybody's doing it now. It's contagious. I love to say that. I always loved to want to meet with my friends. Like that's, that's to me, it's like, I'll say that i always love doing meets with my friends like that's that's to me it's like i'll do any federation if i'm not alone kind of thing like i yeah like uh you know i i i have usapl literally my backyard as of like like two years ago one of

my buddies who owns a gym uh has been took took over as a meat director for usapl do i love usapl no do i wish i could pull in a deadlift bar yeah is it a lot cooler to do a meet that's five minutes from my house versus driving 90 minutes fucking a you're right it is and i can still yeah like in i can at least get three or four people that are my buddies to come like help me and watch me and hang out with me even if they're not competing whereas if i had to drive to niagara falls like yeah and like one person came out to niagara falls i think with me or actually nobody one other time so it's like i think I'm good with going to Niagara Falls. And it's like a big crew of people.

If I have the opportunity to live locally. So I think going forward, yeah, I'm going to do a USL, USAPL meet in Rochester in like March and then do the lift hard in July. Pretty much, you know, every year until something changes. Well, I mean, you can just make friends at your meets. No, I mean, I even know the people. It's just it's it's it's more fun i don't know like i've got like my core group of people like i don't know it's just it's so much more fun to you know i think every meet i do i like gain followers and follow people back in

every meet some of them i still talk to today right like my first unsanctioned meet i still talk to josh right he's a strong man but he was like I'm just here to see what I can pull and yeah like we still chat all the time he's a really cool dude so the key is to just be fucking menace and it'll attract the silly people and they will want to follow you and talk

to you after speaking of being a menace is having your own chickens is that it was that something are are they menacing or are they pretty chill oh my god oh it's so funny that this is a question because we had one round of chickens okay and they were very friendly well i don't they weren't all very friendly some of them were assholes but for them like they were like you could call them and they'd come for treats like they're very food driven um and then one of our hens hatched some eggs and now we have like a

new round of chickens um all but one of the first round have you you know, gone to chicken heaven. But, um, so now these new chickens, they're, they're just scared of everything and like, they don't even come have treats with me anymore. It's kind of sad, but, um, I think I, I work from home and I'm by myself all day. So like, I have to rely on the chickens to entertain me and like talk to them. So like they used to come and like, we'd have snacks together these don't these chickens don't want to have snacks you have a good opportunity for uh a meme or a video where all the chickens come running to you and then you just look at the camera and go see what you're doing tanner just make sure it comes out before this video goes there before this podcast gets released

because i think that would be a really fun edition of the chicken bake challenge oh i'm that's showing how slow i am because i didn't register because we're all i didn't get up there yeah it could be like a video of you looking at the chicken bake challenge then all the chickens come running and you just turn to like turn to the camera just be like this is what you're doing the chicken bake challenge, and then all the chickens come running, and you just turn to the camera and just be like, this is what you're doing, Tanner. Look at what you're doing to them. That would be hilarious.

We need 700 of these little hatchlings to be introduced to this badass crew for seven days. Well, see, these chickens won't come running. They go flying away like i'm a predator like no i feed you what is wrong with you oh that would actually even be like you showing them the chicken bake video and them flying away that would be that i could that i could handle check out this chicken bake video my neighbor had chickens for a while little smelly little buggers and i always got out and i was afraid of them because i was so young because like when you're 14 or something you've

never seen a chicken in your life and he's like oh go around outside and grab it you're like no it's gonna flap it's gonna flap at me and i don't know what that means and now they're basically like dinosaurs yes murph would agree murph is afraid of of well no murph has a healthy respect for dinosaurs she calls it not a fear of birds it's a respect of dinosaurs i love it there was uh multiples of us that had like went into her uh her comments the other day when she did her like flashback of the the the outside gym the patio gym and i think i mean a couple other at least two other people said something to the extent of like you know you don't have the gym anymore because your fear of birds or your hatred of birds or something to that extent so like the

fact that that's still living on is makes me chuckle all right now you go ahead i'm scrolling here there's some good stuff in here but the uh well i don't want i don't i'm gonna make you ask that one because that's uh so you're a big reader uh it looks like so did you do you knock out 52 books in one year that seems a little uh a little more than i could do yeah it was 50 i think my it must have been for my husband i think he's giving me extra credit oh there you go yeah it's 50 well like i my, it must've been from my husband. I think he was giving me extra credit. Oh, there you go. It was 50. Well, like I was saying earlier, like I had to, I haven't finished podcasts yet because I was hate reading a book. This is a book that everybody was like, Oh, this is such a great book.

You have to read it. And I got like halfway in. I'm like, this is a piece of shit, but I have to finish it. I've already invested this time. I have to finish it I've already invested this time I have to finish it now are you more of the the standalone novel reader or do you like books in a series because I can't stand standalone novels I only really want to read books that are part of a series yeah for I mean not intentionally but I guess most of what I read are series except for I have I love

autobiographies so those are like standalone but like um i love fantasy um like lord of the rings is my favorite so uh series like that yeah i tried getting lord ring books but like i don't know like i found them so late in life and i found them after i had already like read modern fantasy for like a decade and then trying to like read read modern fantasy for like a decade and then trying to like read tolkien which is good but it's so dated but and i get that it inspired everything that i love but as someone that like loves what he loves trying to read something to me that is like not as good because it's so dated like i just couldn't i couldn't get into it super hard i don't know i just they weren't bad but to me they weren't like as enjoyable it's just just like modern. Like I get much rather like read Brandon Sanderson than Tolkien.

God, I knew you were going to say Brandon Sanderson. I mean, there's nothing wrong with Brandon Sanderson at all, but I just like, I could feel it coming. Okay. Then let's,

while we're on the subject, let's go Mount Rushmore. Favorite authors. Okay. How many presidents are on mount rushmore four five four four four okay okay for sure tolkien um let's see oh um what's his name what's his name hold on i gotta look sometimes isn't it like pierce brown okay the red rising series i don't know if anybody knows that

not top of my head oh it's excellent um that's two what else i'm just so all over the place can i say tolkien again oh that's it's just so good like uh you get we can switch it to books if you wanted to because again authors are hard sometimes because it's like so good like uh you get we can switch it to books if you wanted to because again authors are hard sometimes because it's like yeah their whole body of work but uh it's it's all good uh do you utilize goodreads the the app to like i do i love goodreads goodreads oh yeah it's my favorite uh i i would be lost without it because it's like i don't want to can we be yes yeah absolutely friends yeah 100 i i will actually yeah well i'll find you on there uh that's that's good good reads is my jam basically anyone's not familiar good reads is

like uh the glaze search oh glaze reads already is that through my head if you're listening go ahead and get in there start the glaze read and and attach it to the glaze rating glaze reads i don't think it'll be compatible because on goodreads it's it's one to five and imbd is one to ten so like my scale he'd have to he'd have to figure out some kind of algorithm to to offset the fact that it's two different uh pace or rating scales i mean don't go on my good good read good reads judging me for the ratings i give because like i don't give almost every book I read a five stars. Just because I feel bad.

You do. You tried really hard. I'm just going to edit and enjoy it. But I'm going to give you five stars anyway. For the most part. To me, the baseline if I finish the book. Which is like I pretty much finish every book. Is a three.

Unless it was just bad. And then it will go up to a lot of them get fours very few fives uh and i think there were some like really shitty books i think i was forced to read in high school that it was a call this is horrible like until one no thank you yeah i i haven't read a fiction book since university so that was probably about 15 years ago i i pretty much only read non-fiction at this rate when i've ever read a i've never read a non-fiction book in my life yeah we had to read them in at some point and like i want to say the last one i read that i enjoyed was the great sargassian sea and ripped it apart to be honest with you so right now i'm reading arnold arnold's book be useful yeah i

read that it was great uh i i read very slowly i don't actually enjoy sitting down to read so it has to be something i really need to read um and then i have the john moxley autobiography going he's a wrestler uh and those are the two i got going and starting strength that one i haven't picked up in a while because every time i pull out, the kid's trying to steal it. So I can only read at night, but that time I'm exhausted. How old are your kids? Four and two. Four and a half and two.

You're in the trenches. Yeah, but I love them. It's exactly where I want to be. That is amazing. I found as my children have aged, I'm definitely like more for the older children. That's more of my jam. I would did not, I was not thriving when my children were five and under. So I definitely, well, I mean, when I say it, that it's where I want to be a father

in general. So I will go with them. And I'm sure at some point I'm going to miss the kid they were but that just gives me a chance to to love the kid they are and uh speaking of that one starts screaming because she's like i want to interrupt you okay so we were ragging on him for saying laura wrong um we we understand that words like oil boil and stuff um all right well we get ragged on all the time i don't know how many episodes you've listened to my canadian accent gets called out at least once an episode um and we were ragging on keith for for saying for not being

able to say laura so what what are the words and is there do you think there's like a background to why you say them differently oh absolutely it's because i was born and raised in florida and um my mom is originally from tennessee my dad is originally from south carolina so i have very two distinct southern dialects that I grew up with in my house plus Florida redneck and you amalgamate the three of those and you turn out with me

my children my daughter she will she's relentless like I will change my word choice just so I don't have to say a word with like OIL in it around her because she's relentless she's brutal and just so I don't have to say a word with like O-I-L in it around her because she's relentless. She's brutal. Kids are brutal.

Yes. It's strictly words that end in O-I-L? Well, I mean, I'm sure there are other words, but that's the one that always I'm like, I know she's going to say something if I say this word. So like instead of saying like, I'll say dirt instead of soul or I'll say I got to go like, I don't know. Give me the instead of give me the olive oil.

I'll be like, give me the jar that has the yellow. That's great. That makes me chuckle. We don't like teasing people too hard, but I'm glad I got a couple of the twangs in there from you so I actually could register what they were talking about. As soon as you said it, I was just like,

oh, I recognize that. I've heard that before. When I was in Like, oh, I recognize that. Like, I've heard that before. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And when I was in fourth, no, second grade, second grade, I switched schools. And on my very first day at the new school, we had a spelling test. And the teacher's like, just take it. We're not going to count it for anything. Don't be nervous.

I just want to see where you are. And one of the words was washington like president washington and i was like all right w blah blah blah and i turned turned in my spelling test and i got everything right except for washington let me tell you why because my dad being from south carolina says warsh so i thought there was an r in washington yep so i will never forget that sometimes sometimes i say it on purpose because my grandpa always said wash you wash my hands yeah yeah uh tanner said it a few times this past couple weeks because basically an homage to to you know to huck finn because i think it was like the week either the week he was on or the week after he was on,

like Tanner said, Washington multiple times, like, because that's exactly how, you know, Huck Finn says it. So I, it was kind of funny that,

that kind of came full circle on that. Just, did you want to ballpark it for a guest? I, you know, I don't want to put you on spot on what your actual age is, but are you a sub masters, juniors, masters, just to give people a the spot on what your actual age is, but are you a submasters, juniors, masters?

Just to give people a little more clarity. People like to know how much more they have in common with the guests sometimes. Well, next week is my birthday. So next week I will be 40. Nice. Yeah. So you do get to do masters in June then? Yeah. Oh, I'm competing in March, actually. Oh, you're get to do masters in june then so that that actually yeah oh i'm competing in march actually so that's right yeah nice you're exactly the same age as i

am that's fun are you coming to the lift hard live easy i am not i am not i'm sorry it's you'll just miss out and i know i have to watch the video of all of us being silly geese, silly gooses. Geese isn't the word. Is it not? Let's make it gooses. Executive decision. Nice.

If you had to put a percentage number on the likelihood of you coming to LiftHard in 2025, what would that be? Well, I mean, it's definitely a possibility because every summer we try to do a trip with the kids. And, you know, I've never been to South Dakota. I hear it's a nice place to visit. So, you know, why not? It's very flat. I love South Dakota.

It can't be flatter than Florida. South Dakota was great. North Dakota can kick rocks. Minnesota is wild because we drove right through Minnesota and just utterly wild. I haven't been to Florida

or anything that way at all. South Dakota is gorgeous. It is flat though like you said like it's flat uh so we got a story here might be a little a little embarrassing so if you don't want to tell it you don't you know don't don't feel the uh that you have to but do you have a story that involves a uh boy scout troop uh hiking through the woods uh yeah i sure do so funny because i told my husband he's like what am i supposed to what am i supposed to tell them and i'm like he's like like embarrassing

stuff i'm like oh you can't embarrass me he's like oh um no this isn't even okay so I was doing a race I was running a race and I let trail races are like my favorite um and I was doing this was a 50 mile trail race and it was in like a swampy area of Florida and I was just not having my best day so I'm probably nine eight or nine miles from the finish maybe fewer I don't quite remember and I just got to the point where I was like so over running I was over the day it was over the race I was done and I just had a really bad attitude and like I had to go to the bathroom and so you know you're trail running you just go in the woods but I got to the point where I just gave like zero shits about anything. And I had to go to the bathroom and I didn't even bother to step off the trail.

I just like leaned up against a tree and just like dropped my pants and was going to the bathroom. And I hadn't seen anybody for hours. Sure as shit. I'm standing there. Yeah. Leaning against this tree, doing my business. And a Boy Scout troop is coming down the trail and i was like well i can't do anything about this now so so based on everything we've heard

it sounds like running isn't great because like three people in a row are out running now and i've had to shit on the side of a mountain or against a tree it's like it's either that or joggers always find the body so i don't like so it's like i'm not being sold on this running business well running is running is great running is my my first love i've been running since like middle school. And it's great. You just have to embrace, especially if you're like trail running, you just have to embrace the, the,

the less known elements that come along with it. You really have to embrace the adventure of it. And sometimes it's leaning against the tree and having boy Scouts walk by you while you're taking a shit. Now, did, was there like a troop leader that was like ma'am you shouldn't be doing this or like did you like like i guess that's like it's almost like it's not but i mean it could have been a quote-unquote like indecent exposure if they really wanted to like push the issue and stuff so like how would any were there any ramifications or they literally just walked by you and like close their eyes or did you like.

Yeah. Around the other side of the tree. Well, I think, I think they realized what was happening and probably just thought it best to like not acknowledge it. So they like just were like. That's great. Walking like with their head turned, like averting their eyes. So they didn't say anything. Thankfully.

That makes me chuckle all right um so it says here one of the things that you hate and i want to you know some clarity on it is uh sweet cornbread is there a not sweet cornbread like i think all cornbread is sweet isn't it like no okay okay is there a spite I get, yeah. Believe some Florida knowledge on me on your cornbread. Cause I'm confused. Okay. So I have to, I might hurt some feelings with us. That's what we're here for. My, my, my mother ingrained it into me. The, in her mother before her, my grandmother, what, what cornbread is and for a southern family

um especially like a southern family of like lower economic status like cornbread was just kind of made because that's what you had access to so you're not going to get wheat you're not going to get sugar but you have corn you have water an egg, whatever. So that's what cornbread used to be. It was like a vessel to give you nutrients, give you energy, sop up the juice from your greens and your black eyed peas. And like that, like, so it like was imbued with the flavors from your other food. And it was made from what you could afford and what you had. So that is the type of cornbread that I grew up with. And that is the type of cornbread that I make.

I have my great grandmother's cast iron skillet. That's what we make our cornbread in. So it's like a a ritual so you don't put sugar in your cornbread because traditionally you wouldn't you wouldn't have sugar to put in your cornbread you wouldn't have flour to put in your cornbread so i uh my mom would always call like people who put sugar in their cornbread that she'd call it yankee bread like it wasn't even cornbread at that point so like maybe maybe we can just call it a different thing or like corn cake that would be another name if you like put flour and sugar in this corn cake so it's not cornbread do you not like okay so so uh is it that you you don't like the okay so you

obviously grew up eating the cornbread the way you had it. So then when you were exposed to what other people consider cornbread for the first time, were you really confused? And do you not like the taste of it? Or is it just more like a... Well, it's two separate things in your mind. It's two separate things. I don't recall the first time I had different type of cornbread,

but I'm sure I didn't even realize it was cornbread because it's very different. So like that would just be cake or Yankee bread as my mom would say. It is. I mean, that's a really funny name. Yeah. I mean,

like I think, I think like the best quote unquote tasting cornbread is literally like drenched in fucking sugar and is sweet and has a literal... I don't know. I guess I don't know that I've had a not sweet cornbread. I'm not going to say I'm under a false pretense that it's the best tasting, but it's the purpose. It's serving a different purpose it's nostalgia and it's like you know you're not gonna change what you've been ingrained with your whole life

to you know it makes sense to me i get it i like i've said it before i don't know if i've said it on the podcast before so but i don't eat bread almost at all unless it is a delivery for food like i will eat sandwiches but like bread on its own or any type of what i call confection i just don't eat and it's a funny story this morning morgan made um protein muffins so she used my delicious ghost protein powder and she added like strawberries and then and like they tasted good and they i swear they were the size of you guys wouldn't know the size of a toonie but they were like it was like three inches across so it was almost nothing and i ate half of it and i finally turned to her i was like eating bread is such a goddamn chore

like this is so much chewing so much biting it's crumbly like it tastes great and i appreciate all the efforts you put into them but like i i have no desire to finish eating this because of all the effort i've had to put into eating this and that's i know that's probably one of my weird keith things i guess we'll call it like my weird like having a strong opinion about something is considered a keith thing but well just having like a like an arbitrary almost arbitrary feeling opinion though i got you like i am gonna take a hard line on this bread sucks i'm a i'm a i'm a hard line taker but i have justifications for all my hard lines so uh i tried i tried honey if you're listening i tried it's just it's so much

effort to eat bread on its own, on its own. Like if you're eating it, like you said, like with cornbread to like sop up like the juice of your food or something like that. Like even that I can like, yeah, I can get that.

But like, here's a piece of bread for you to eat. It just doesn't, it doesn't jive. It doesn't jive. I got a quick game. I want to play with, uh,

Laura. Um, so basically it's going to be versus. Which one of these would you rather do if you couldn't get away from either of them? You had to do one of them. You had to be subjected to one of them. Someone touching your nose or being tickled.

Oh my god. Is dying a choice? Can I just die? Nope. You have to endure 30 seconds of one or the other oh 30 seconds 30 seconds okay okay um i suppose i suppose i would have 30 seconds of having my nose touched because i just honestly think i would commit homicide if i were being tickled for 30 seconds i could see that yeah maybe i put too big of a time limit on it, but are there, are there any, like, is there, is it just something in your whole life? Both of those things have had like, you know, I mean, obviously if it's trauma,

I don't have to like, I'm not trying to like, you know, make you have the trauma dump on us, but is there like therapy? There's a funny story, but if it's, if it's, I guess if it's not a funny story, then we can move on, but unfaithful and underrated works through your shit with us. Yeah. Well, I mean, so I think it it comes from being i've always been like the short smaller person in the friend group right and so like what do you do to the short smaller person your friend friend group you you pick them up you tickle them you you know you do all the annoying things and so like just like tired of it so i don't know no tickling well now that you're like a jacked power lifter like is that made it easier to like don't fucking touch me i'll push

you away and like you know like you have to be physically stronger now obviously than you would have been like you know growing up so is that uh is do you think that motivated you at all to actually like hit the weights like just being able to like knowing that how small in stature you are to be able to kind of like defend yourself or you know just being able to take care of yourself better um i mean it certainly didn't hurt uh because well i so we grew up and we had like chickens and horses and cows and everything so there was always that aspect of like having to move bales of hay and pick up a bag of feed and um farmer strength my yeah yeah like farmer strength so i've always just wanted to like get shit done and not have to wait for somebody to help me so i would always just like find a creative way to get like the bag of feed into the into the bin or

whatever um so i also think it ties into just like i want to be in control of this space like i want to like don't come into my space don't be in my bubble so would you call that the the sphere the public sphere that we talked about so many times on this yeah i don't know i don't know if they've listened to but i have a huge proponent of understanding space and what you just described yeah just exactly hey stay out of my personal space uh keith are you following up or are you asking another question i i got sidetracked and i had a brain fart so i'm good okay i'm gonna read an ad read and then i am gonna ask a crew crew question about it okay um i'm going to go with plate snacks today so they're missing is to transform gyms into vibrant personalized spaces

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today or soon. So, you know, if you're looking for any of that stuff, your own custom vinyl banners or anything like that, hit up PlateSnacks. They got that big, large format printing. Now, a follow-up. Did you say deckle to fuck with me, or is that a Canadian thing?

How do you pronounce it? Decal. No. The word is decal. It is not. It is decal. It is not a fucking word at all. It is decal no the word is decal it is not it is not a fucking word it is decal decal is decal is so much effort being cow like that's so much i really thought you were fucking with me

okay so that's the canadian versus american lingo i've never heard that before i've never heard deco in my life yeah ever not i might so i might that might just be me i just don't want to say decal like decal who says decals plate weight decals like you're just you're adding so much into the word that doesn't need to be added it's just it sounded like you said it like it's like d-e-c-o-w-s to me it's like i don't know decal like how do you say jackal jackal i mean at least i've heard jackal and jackal but would you say jackal you would not say jackal? Jackal. I mean, at least I've heard Jekyll and Jackal, but Would you say Jekyll? You would not say Jekyll. It's spelled the same.

How do you say recall? How do you say recall? Recall. You don't say recall? Am I going to have to look up the etymology of decal now? I'm going to watch Total Recall starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. We've had a lot of English talk.

I mean, I've been enjoying this podcast so far. You said you wanted to ask her a crew question. What do you got for us? Well, I kind of don't want to disrupt this. Oh, sorry. Just straight up dunk on me because I hope I'm wrong and I'm never going to stop saying it.

How do you know how you Google that? Because like if you Google the Canadian version, it'll be maybe it'll be the etymology on how to pronounce. She said that. And I need to go fucking Google etymology because I don't. So etymology is the history of a word. Yeah. It's the linguistic history of a specific word, where it comes from, how it came to be fruition, and often how to pronounce it.

We should do that for Kuru. No, we invented that word. Oh, yeah. With the umlaut. It looks like, oh, okay, this is very interesting. It looks like it is derived from a French word, décalquer, which means to copy by tracing,

but décal, décal, which means to copy by tracing but decal decal are both US pronunciations and in Canadian Canadian pronunciation is decal so it is a Canadian vs. American thing it's not a

weird feel free to like if you're ever listening feel free to do that to us like throw it in the discord and be like oh you guys are having this and because like we've never thought to actually look it up we just we just like always look it up we rib each other and then we move on but it would be really funny to get that kind of thing going um all right what am i doing here i wanted to ask shut up swear to god one day i going to do something about this.

Okay, so Big Jen sent in a really fun one that I wanted to talk to you about. Because I hope it leads to a bit more of a story. Oops. Who would she rather fight in a karate battle? Daniel LaRusso, Poe, or Lee from Rush Hour? Would I rather fight? Do we know who all of those characters are? Well, I'm the karate kid, right?

Daniel LaRusso. Poe is from Kung Fu Panda. Star Wars. Oh, okay. I was thinking a different Poe, so it's a good thing we clarified. That makes more sense. Why would a Star Wars character? Yeah, it. I was thinking a different Poe, so it's a good thing we clarified. That makes more sense. Why would a Star Wars character?

Yeah, it makes more sense. Okay. We didn't even bring up Star Wars and it happened. I know, but that's where my mind went. Lee is Jackie Chan. Right, right. Okay, so I'm gonna have to say, just for the novelty of it, Poe, Kung Fu Panda, don't you want to find an animated character? That's what i would choose

now i mean like are you into kung fu is that why jen asked i don't know i'm not into kung fu i i practiced karate for a while i don't know if she would know that or not but jen knows things i will put that out there don't jen knows that yeah that's that's why jen's always been kind of like the secret. Well, it was for a long time until we kind of unveiled the wizard behind the curtain is Jen did so much of our earlier research for us on crew that we kind of just, well,

you have always been here. You are now one of the founding, one of the founders. Right. So, um, yeah, so that was fun.

Do you watch Kung Fu movies or anything like that? Like, is that like a, a passion? No, it's not. I watched, um, randomly, you know, here and there, but definitely not a passion or anything, but I did, I mean, I did practice karate for four years, so that has to be where that came from. Yeah. That, or, uh, I don't know if she stumbled across the picture of you doing a standing sidekick on the beach looking all jacked.

So that might have been it. Oh, wow. That's a way back. Okay. What do we have? Anything else before we. Well, I just sorry to do it again, but we do. I'm going to knock out another ad read real quick.

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Oh, nice. Awesome. Yeah, I got my deadlift bar. Oh, nice, nice. Yeah, I've got to deadlift bar. Oh, nice, nice. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, with a Bear Steel, Texas. Yeah. I've got to use it once. I have opted the, oh, excuse me.

I have made the final decision that that is not for high volume. Nick, that is, three or less, I think I'll be busting that out for. But when you're doing these five by fives, I'll go to the stiff bar because that thing just i had to use straps because i just honestly my hands were being torn apart so yeah that's a spicy boy isn't it very much is i'm not mad about it it was just one of those like i think i've made the decision you will go away until i have singles and i think we know i think we can all confirm because you had initially said that uh damager missed out because you had ordered the bar on christmas on on new year's eve but i think as everyone agreed with you know my vote on uh that uh on the uh on the poll we put up i think

it was like it was like 90 to 10 or something that it you you you you got the bar when it delivered to your house not when you put the. And so technically it was a 2024 bar. And I think most people's ass. So that's fair. Okay. Last question, of course, through our list that I have,

I did try and spend some time going through this earlier. Oh, no, I want that one too. Okay. So who is Laurie? Oh my. Coming back to my southern roots um actually this might help with the pronunciation of my name as well so my middle name is ray but growing up those as many

southern names do you get your first and middle name. They just kind of get mashed together. So I was never Laura until I moved away for college and then just never told anybody my middle name. So anybody who knows me from before then calls me Laura Ray. That's, that's my, you know, my God given name, Laura Ray.

And now anybody at the gym who's listening that's what they're going to be calling me now ah thanks i'm so happy we could ruin that experience for you thanks appreciate it uh actually the one i want to ask i just moved into unpaid and underrated so uh i will while we're still talking about gyms do you consider yourself kind of an equipment snob now that you've been training at Jordan's for a couple of years? Like, do you have to get this certain barbell? Do you have to have this nice platform?

Like, like, like, just tell us, you know, if you want to sum up his gym or, you know, your opinion of just better equipment than what you were getting at any time fitness. Oh, I mean, it's just night and day difference. this oh i mean it's just night and day difference um i i do have like my two deadlift bars that i i will like go get if it's not already down um it's the texas and the kabuki nice um it kind of depends like which one are we using in the next meet that's the one i'll go to um gonna have both and then then um i i just can't i couldn't imagine at this point doing a meet where i didn't have a monolith and like i you know two years ago i didn't even know what a monolith was so well especially if you're training in a group with like you said like you've said you're you know you said multiple times you're five foot tall like if you're

training with your husband or other friends there's no way someone five foot and someone even five five is going to be able to unrack from the same J-cup height. So you either have to have a combo or a mono and a mono with straps is a lot safer than a combo rack, which is spotter arms, depending on what lift you're doing, because you're technically not supposed to even use like everyone thinks that, uh, the, on, on the combo rack that the face savers are actually for squatting. No, this is really just for benchers.

Let's take those out when you squat, because that, unless that fucking, uh, combo rack is bolted to the ground extremely well, like those aren't going to do shit. And the thing is just going to tip over. Yeah.

I couldn't, I couldn't imagine squatting not with a mono now and like we have a group that we squat with on saturday mornings um it's like five or six of us that um we have a squat group and like do we organizing that squat group has been probably one of the most favorite things that like probably my favorite thing of 2023 that's awesome um just having that like crew we lift with every morning or every saturday morning it's just really nice now which uh which spectrum of the fun scale would you put that on oh definitely type one fun it's fun while it's happening and it's fun after the

fact perfect yeah so have you uh has your home gym kind of completely went away then do you have do you even keep it around just for like that one day you can't make it to the gym and you just need to go not not not knock out something easy with the squat rack well it lives in the shed now um but it's i'm really happy that we like it's not extravagant it's just like a rack and a bar and some plates and some dumbbells but it's good that we kept it around because um we had like hurricane ian come through back in 2022 oh yeah i remember he got fucked up right yeah yeah the gym was literally destroyed literally destroyed and um like our house we were flooded into our house

for nine days um so like we couldn't go anywhere nobody could get into us like i mean there were like airboats going down our roads yeah it was only passable by boat so like i'm like glad we had it because we could still get our workouts in because you know priorities um we couldn't take a shower or because we didn't have power or water but you know we could get a workout in so i was get the most sweaty for that uh you know oh my god so like it had to be like what's that the data saw like i don't know when is hurricane season like what time of the year in florida uh september to september okay so yeah no it's like it's like may may to november but um ian happened like at the very end of september so it's like september october for us so it's like it's like 90 degrees

in your house and you're sweaty from working out that had to be a ripe ripe body odor going on well that's the that's the thing like we didn't we couldn't stay in the house because there was just it was just too stagnant so we basically like lived outside okay except for like we'd go in and sleep and then just sweat sweat to death but um yeah it was wild and i did i doubt you in were you part of the crew that kind of came together to help jordan get his gym moved and stuff because he had like i remember hearing a story on one of the other maybe some podcast he did did. I think it was on, uh, when he was on Andy Wong and, uh, when Andy Wong's podcast, maybe, uh, not, don't quote me on that, but yeah, he basically said like he had, he literally had to like, he had a meet coming up, like within like a month or less, I think from

when that storm happened in it. Yeah. So it happened at the end of September and then we had the meet in December. Okay. So the, that was, that was a wild few months i think it was like the beginning of november that we got the gym back open like that was a really fast turnaround so it was pretty wild yeah i think a lot of us listening are probably jealous that you have that kind of community there like getting five or six people to actually come

to the gym at the same time once a week and willing to do the same lift and not bitch and moan and be like well no i need to use this bar and i have ssb today so i can't squat with you guys and just being able to to modify your shit a little bit to still work in a group atmosphere that is so underrated that is the most fucking underrated thing in the world uh like i have people that come over here but like we almost never really work in together when we do it's so much more fun like when we it's it's easiest with deadlifts because like you know as long as you can fucking you know get on board with it well we're gonna use this bar today assholes i you know basically whoever has a meet coming up we're gonna use that bar you know just so like like the group can get the you know the the one person

doesn't get fucked out of it that actually has a a meet coming up so like you know like kudos to you guys for keeping that going uh no that is that an all-female group or is it like a mix or are you yeah our group our group is all female but um then at the same time like on the other mono like there's a group of guys that that uh do squats on saturdays so we have like both monos running awesome third groups And then like, of course I read like all the deadlift platforms are going, all the combo racks are going. And it's just like Saturday mornings, like in North port, the gym is the place to be.

Nice. Well, in July, 2025, uh, South Dakota is the place to be. So see what you can do. We'll see.

And, uh, or do you got anything else, Joey? You want to move into unpaid and underrated? Yeah, we can do that. Perfect. All right.

So are you familiar with the game? If you've listened to enough episodes, so just I'll run it down real quick for everyone. It is unpaid and underrated. Unpaid being the equivalent to overrated because no one wants to be unpaid. So number one, I'm going to be unpaid so number one i'm gonna go with uh hook grip okay i it's so i'm new to hook grip this is only like week two yep as i saw on instagram yep yeah so before i started i would say unpaid but now that I've started it and I've already started to see some changes in my deadlift,

I'm going to say underrated. Cause I, I like, I didn't want to, I didn't want to do it cause you know, it hurts. But then I gave in and I tried it and like, damn,

damn, they were right. This does make a difference. So is it, is it better on a deadlift bar? Cause I hated it on the stiff bar. I, well,

I don't ever deadlift on a stiff bar, so I don't know. Okay. Yeah. I got, I got a little baby hands. So, um,

that looked on the stiff bar, trying to use hook grip. I just could, I just couldn't do it. Like anything over three plates. I just couldn't do well for more than than one rep but i'm wondering now i'm gonna try on the texas let's go let's get her you should totally do it try it okay i'm gonna do a little audible and pull one out from the random things above that i want to hear about. All right. Unpaid or underrated oversized couches.

Oh, they are so underrated. They are so underrated. Let me tell you, we don't have a big house. Our houses, it's like on the smaller side and our living room. Like,

I don't know who designed this house, but our living room is even smaller. Our living room is basically entirely couch. We used to have mega couch. And then we had to get rid of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had mega couch. But we had to get rid of mega couch because it, you know, lived its life.

And now we have Uber couch. And Uber couch, we could all, like, lounge on it, watch a movie. If we wanted to, we could all like lounge on it watch a movie if we wanted to we could have the dogs on it we have three large dogs there's enough room for the whole family to relax and chill on this couch so big couches are totally underrated i was curious if that was gonna like segue into like all couches are big couches because of your stature. But that was mega, mega and uber couch. Like, I didn't think I would hear those phrases tonight. And I'm glad I did that.

That made that made my evening. All right. Unpaid or underrated environmental friendly vehicles. Um. Hmm. vehicles um that's tough i'm gonna have to okay so i drive a prius my husband drives a tesla but i'm gonna have to say unpaid because i really think you have to know what you're getting into because if you're going to drive let me tell you like my 62 miles to the gallon cannot be cannot be matched but if you're going into driving a Prius thinking that you're just going to have a regular driving experience you're going to be disappointed so and the same thing with the tesla like

it's great for our family and and what we need out of a vehicle but if you're going into expecting like a driving experience like a gasoline engine i mean sorry about your luck but you're going to be disappointed again i was i was in a tesla for the first time this week, never, ever been in one. And like, yeah, I think I, when they said like, oh, your Tesla will be arriving. I was in the middle of the car dealership and I went, oh, wow. King of the castle, king of the castle. And naturally everybody's like, what is wrong with you, dude? And I get in and it's so sleek and modern and everything is like minimalist and it's exciting.

And they had white, white bench seats in the back. And can I tell you that every hair of every person that had ever been in that Uber showed up on that damn white. Like I sat down and at first I was just like, wow, this is so neat. Look at all the cameras. That whole thing is a screen. That's a hair. Gross. Wow. The whole ceiling is glass. That's a hair gross wow the whole ceiling is glass that's another hair this is getting out of hand and i guess i was texting

morgan as i was doing this whole thing and it kept going until all i could see were the hairs because of course they were black hairs because the driver was an indian man so he's got all his hair in the back and you know you're not it was all just like black hair all over this white yeah so i don't think i like teslas anymore yeah well i mean they're they're they're really cool they're they're really cool but then like everything's in the cons like the screen like all of the command or the controls are in the screen and then like you just sometimes if you just want to open the glove box because maybe you have like napkins in there or whatever and

like then you just go to like reflexively pull the glove box open and you're like fuck i can't i have to go push a button on the screen i'd like go into the here and like remember which menu the glove box button is under like that's really annoying yeah to me to me i find that very annoying that's why i don't drive it but again oh my god i i drive a hyundai and yeah so it's an extension of my body i get it i'm with you on that one oh okay yeah so that's your three yeah you don't want to do it anymore? Alright. No, three's the limit. Okay. Unpaid or underrated conventional

deadlifts? Oh my god. Okay. They are unpaid because I don't know how anybody is happy with themselves feeling conventional. It's just so... I don't mean that in a derogatory way

i'm gonna say like i'm sorry i mean like it just feels so amazing weird oh no it feels so weird like what am i where are my knees supposed to go how is this bar supposed to get over my knees and like up my thighs and then like how how am i supposed to like how is my body supposed to get over my knees and like up my thighs and then like how are how am i supposed to like how is my body supposed to make this work i don't know i don't know my body doesn't do it like the disparity between my conventional and my sumo pull it's laughable it's embarrassing so we can just leave that for somebody else to do yeah i i just i'd have to say like if i said hey can you help me carry this case of beer into the house are you going to do your whole setup with your legs six feet apart and reach down and lift it up and walk it into the house like that or are you going to bend over and pick it up i'm gonna actually probably like do a wide wide open stance and like but let's cut down like

that i'm not gonna bend over and pick it up that's interesting yeah that's the only reason i i do conventional is just because that's just how i lift things up in life and i've just never done sumo i've tried it it's uncomfortable for me but i don't have any hard feelings on it my hips can't handle it my groin basically well you well you know they say the hips don't lie we just synced up on there okay um unpaid or underrated pickled beets underrated yeah anything pickled is underrated like even pickles underrated what's your what's your favorite pickled thing?

Don't say pig's feet. Whatever I have. No. Whatever I have in that moment is my favorite pickled thing. Really? Yeah, okay. Oh, I love it.

I love it. Sour, vinegar, salt. Yes. All of that. Thank you. I'll have another. No sweet pickles though? So you don't like sweet corn?

No. Probably you don't like sweet pickles either. Okay, so you just don't like sweet stuff. I don have another. No sweet pickles, though? So you don't like sweet corn? No. Probably you don't like sweet pickles either. Okay, so you just don't like sweet stuff. I don't like, no. I like sour and bitter just like my heart. I do love me a good pickle. What's your top pickle brand? Oh, so there's a sentimental reason why these are my favorite brand.

It has nothing to do with quality. reason why these are my favorite brand. It has nothing to do with quality. I think it's no, not flastic. What's Klassen? I think it's Klassen, but it comes in this little zippy bag, like a zip top bag and they're pickle chips. And it comes in like this beautiful pickle juice. And the reason they're- They have sour and spicy right yes yep but the reason they're so special and sentimental to me is because i was doing a race um it was june in florida and you the race is you run on the florida trail so it's like very rugged trail from lake okachobee which is i don't know if anyone not from florida it's like very rugged trail from Lake Okeechobee, which is, I don't know if anyone not from Florida,

it's like that big body of water in the, in the like Southern center of the state. Like if you look at a map, it's just that giant Lake. So you run from Lake Okeechobee to the Atlantic ocean and it's like 62 miles. It's Florida and it's fucking hot in June. Yeah. So it's really hot. so we froze these bags of pickles so i had frozen pickles that i like had in my pack and like i'd take them out and

i'd have like little pickle pixicles i don't know but anyway so like it's just such a and then like the juice got frozen so then i had like a pickle slushy and so it was the most rewarding feeling having that running in that heat yeah mad mad electrolytes in pickles too right like yeah there's there's some decent decent stuff to be had there i we my wife doesn't like them but uh Vlasic has recently become rather popular in the house. The Vlasic baby dills. It's just so crunchy. You bite into a pickle sometimes, you get them smushy, and they're still a good pickle.

You're not mad you ate it, but when you get that Vlasic crisp, yeah, absolutely. I do love pickled beets. What is one thing if somebody said, hey, here's a pickled blank. What's the one thing that you might go? I don't think I want that. Well, I'm not going to eat pickled eggs because I am like, I love pickles. I am definitely allergic to eggs. Then you're not eating pickled eggs with me.

No, I'm not. No, like I carry an EpiPen. So like it's bad news bears. I'm not doing the pickled egg. And yeah, it's funny. I love pickled eggs, but I only like one brand because they make them really vinegary. And yeah, there's this other one that I tried and they were just sweet. And I was like, yeah, I don't have any patience for that.

No. But also like my mom worked in a bar for 35 years. Right. And it was like a traditional like country bar. So she used to bring home the pig pickled sausage and pickled eggs and pickled. I don't think, I think they had pig's feet once.

And I was, it was out of that one. I don't think I was too into that one. It chopped out. We tapped out. Yeah. I was a little young on that one i don't think i was too into that one to tap out we tapped out yeah i was a little young on that one uh do you drink alcohol on special occasions not like a daily or like a regular drinker well i just didn't want to ask the question in case the answer was no have you ever done a pickle back oh yeah yes i have hell yeah um yeah not it's the it's the whiskey part of that that's just not necessarily my thing yep so that's fun yeah that's come up a couple times i think i actually had to

explain to the main podcast what those were at some point because i brought them up during one of their live recordings um okay i'll move on from that one last and not least uh unpaid or underrated johan sebastian bach oh my god my husband so i love your reaction to like 30 of the shit we've asked you it's made me so happy and it knows we did a good job getting answers from people. Thank you, Big Jordan and your husband. Michael. Big Michael.

If there is a... Imagine a scale of unpaid and underrated and the top most unpaid thing is here. Bach is up here. He's so unpaid.

I can't even. I'm a classical music snob. And I just can't get past the banality, the pedantry of Bach.

I can't handle it. It's just like, there are so many other things I can listen to. Why am I going to listen to this? You're not wrong. It's kind of crazy to even hear that because he's just so well known. I know, but that doesn't mean it's good. Well, I mean i mean yeah one could argue that that's fun okay so we get a lot of music talk on here and we get a lot of complaints

that it's mostly either goblin metal country so when i saw that on there i was like no i'm gonna hone in on that one i am not a country or a classical music snob by any means but i'm familiar with some of it so like who who's the opposite end then if this is your your unpaid who's at the the bottom of the underrated okay so that's okay so underrated i gotta think underrated not just my favorite oh i know i know bruckner Bruckner is so underrated. I'm going to see if I know anything by him. Her? Him?

You probably don't. Him. Yeah, you probably don't. But if you want just like music that you can put on in the, like, maybe you're working. Maybe you are driving. Maybe you are just, you need some time to yourself. Maybe you're reading a book put on a breckner symphony and i promise it will bring joy into the cockles of your heart i'm trying to i can't i can't even spell it i can see that for sure like i used to uh in my younger days i would always not always

but like i had a really shitty day and i just needed to like completely take my mind off stuff on my drive home like we have like a classical radio stations, like 91.5 or something. Uh, and I will just put that on for 20 minutes on my drive home just to complete, like, I don't care what they're talking like,

like I have no concept of like what the music even is about or anything, but it's just like, it's, it's a noise that isn't like singing, but it's still like, you know, there's like a reason to it, but it was just,

I don't know. It was just like when I was having like, not necessarily panic attacks, but just like a very anxious day, like that would bring my anxiety down from like a nine to a seven. Yeah. Yeah. Put Bruckner on your list. Yeah. I don't know anything about him. That's fun. Yeah. Interesting story. The one time I was sitting in a pub with a guy back in the days when I did

that a lot more often. And we we it was like one of those it was me him the bartender okay and the bartender just handed us the computer to play music and both of us being metal fans we were going back and forth between slayer and black sabbath and metallica and you know some of the older heavy metal stuff. And this guy comes in. He's all drunked up. And he's, hey, put on the heaviest song you know. And Franz is the guy's name. He's out of Quebec. Looks at me and goes, I got this.

And he puts on Tchaikovsky. And he starts going off on the guy. And he's going like, listen to those cannons. Listen to those. And he's going off on the guy and he's going like, listen to those cannons, listen to those. And he's going off explaining to this guy why this is the heaviest song he could think of at the time. And I was one of those times where it was just like, I hadn't, I've never really classical music's always been off on the side for me. But that was one of those times that I'll always remember. And it's like, Tchaikovsky is going to be up by top for that word, just for that reason. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was a of those times that I'll always remember and it's like Tchaikovsky's gonna be up by top for that or just for that reason yeah yeah that was that was a pretty funny one

well my husband my husband and I always talk about like if well okay I shouldn't say we always talk about because I make him play these stupid games with me of like if there if you could only listen to one composer for the rest of your life who would it be so like he he he plays along because he loves me um but mine is Tchaikovsky I would I would choose Tchaikovsky Hans Zimmerman no I well I I think they talked about it recently about um with DJ Cumberbund about movie soundtracks and how those have fallen off the wayside. But Hans Zimmerman, you know,

he won awards for his work on the dark night. Another one would be Ennio Marconi. I think I want to say I'm, I gotta be saying that wrong. If you can ever listen to the, some of the music that guy did, he did some just overwhelmingly crazy stuff back in the day and if you don't know crank two high voltage have either of you seen that movie yes

okay so that was actually 100 scored by mike patton the singer from faith no more and mr bungle and tomahawk and fantomas and i think that's the last time i sat and listened to an entire uh movie soundtrack back to front because he it's not classical but it is scored and he uses his he uses his voice in weird ways because he's mike patten and he's i don't know how else to describe that. He's out there. That's really, I just want to throw that out there because Mike Patton's name just appeared on my phone, so I thought I'd talk about that. I joked about Hans Zimmerman.

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It appears on most of the bottles and the websites. Science and violence and lift heavy don't die nice yeah we have a we have a i have a you know a google doc of all our our ad reads and it's nice because anytime i'm like in conversation with someone to to add them as an affiliate or to i guess to get us added as their affiliate uh i'll like i said i'll send them a screenshot of our current ones just so they kind of get the gist, uh, you know,

so that's been kind of a neat little thing. So we've, we've had a few, like I did, you know, let's be transparent with the rest of crew. We've had some people reach out as well that we just kind of weren't sure we could accommodate or even wear a fit.

Right. So, you know, great people and everything like that. It just came down to like, how many fucking ad reads can we do? I think that's really what it came down to. The end of the day,

I, we, the goal is to get, I want to be a self-sufficient podcast. I don't want Tanner to have to foot the bill for this forever. I mean, we're grateful that they do really appreciate it. Like if they,

if that went away, would you, me and Nate pull the money together. Like if they, if that went away, would you, me and Nate pull the money together? Maybe that's like, that's a, that makes it a lot bigger commitment. And then it's just like, I feel like it would take the joy out of it.

We could go fund me and the crew would probably, but also like, we shouldn't have to assume that that's the option coming up. And also that like the logistics of having to accept actual money from a sponsor is hard i don't because i'm up in canada i would have nothing to do with it i'd be out like i'm not registering an american llc up here that would be stupid like i'm not even going to say hard or difficult that would legitimately be more work than it's worth so i just wouldn't bother like you guys would have to handle all of that and then i would just appear once a week to crack jokes and say silly stuff

now as a podcast administrator basically you know to to to dummy down your title uh for layman's terms do you deal with finding sponsors for people uh managing the sponsors managing the payments like how is because there's got to be some bigger podcast i mean obviously like podcasts literally get paid thousands of dollars in some instances to do stuff like this so if you have any experience or any any insight to what we're chatting about well it's interesting because the podcasts i manage none of them want to take sponsorships so no i don't oh and that's it like all of our sponsorships right now are mostly affiliate coats yeah yeah like we don't actually like they don't

pay us money right right they're just some commissionable discounts that we get off of their products but they were like yeah go ahead read us on there like that you know so yeah all right moving on i think we can go into see if you have anything for us okay here's my question is it one for both or one for each it's the same question for both of you got it sort of okay so right now in Florida, it is 16 degrees Celsius. What temperature is it where you live right now? Negative seven degrees. What the fuck are y'all talking about Celsius? Negative seven Neil deGrasse Tysons.

Weather? grass tyson's weather it looks like it's actually 24 right now which is super surprising because it was like 10 degrees all week like i worked i was outside and like 10 degree temperatures like on and off all week so it's it's you know it's 24 degrees Fahrenheit currently but like yesterday when I got some when I got in my work van it was like 12 degrees when I got to the job site it was like seven so uh yeah very freaking cold but somehow we're in it we're in a heat wave of 24 right now so the 24 degrees is still really really cold yeah how are you how do you okay i'm born and raised in florida i have lived other i was in the army so i have lived other places but how do you live your lives in weather like that like what you have like what do you do you to go outside do you have to like wear a hazmat suit i don't know so actually that's funny i was thinking about this as you were asking the question.

How are you guys experiencing, would you say 16 degrees Celsius? Yeah. How are you experiencing that? Because 16 degrees Celsius where I'm from, you'd be in shorts and a hoodie. You would be out there celebrating the warmth. Are you guys all bundled up? Cause when I went to San Francisco, I got warned it's cold here in San Francisco.

And I was like, all right, I believe you. And then I showed up and I was like, no, it's not. So one of the weird thing, I don't know if it's weird,

but one of the things about Florida is like people know it's humid right and you it's you would think like the summer is the time when the humidity is the worst but it's actually right now like the humidity is so bad to go out in 16 degrees it's like it feels like it's inside of your bones because of the humidity. So maybe the temperature is not very low, but it just feels wet and cold. And I don't know if that's what other places feel when it's cold. I'm a little north of Keith. I hate that cold. So it'll be interesting.

I've had this discussion with other Canadians. that cold so it'll be interesting i've had this discussion with other canadians i would take minus 30 in alberta over minus 10 where i am right now because in alberta it's dry cold you step outside your boogers freeze you might cough a few times because you're just inhaling the coldest air ever. But that's it. Your coat will protect you from anything else, your pants and all that. You're not going to go like strolling outside for a dart. You're not going to hang out outside at that temperature. But when it gets to that wet cold, that humidity cold, it gets in your bones.

And you're just like, you could go from your car to your front door and that's enough you're cold now for another hour i hate that cold that other cold though as soon as i see it i'm like i'm going out there i'll go light a cigar and i'll put on a small campfire and i will sit outside by that campfire and be comfortable at minus 10 to 20 celsius obviously and it's because um interestingly there's just something um this always brings out a serious side there's something cleansing about the cold there's something um clarifying about the cold and there's a certain stillness in the cold that you don't get in the summer or in the heat things are quieter things are more serene when it is that version

of cold and one of the coolest things i ever did was walk out in the middle of a frozen lake out in alberta because like i didn't even need my coat, but it was still minus 20, but it's because there was nothing else there. There's no one else. There's nothing else. There's no noise. There's no anything. You're just by yourself in that cold. And that's why I prefer where I am right now. There's also less things that can kill me. There's no alligators. There's very few poisonous spiders. There's very few snakes. There's a lot less things that can kill me. When you get to those warm climates, yeah, you're probably more comfortable year round, but I don't have to check my shoes every time I put them on.

That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I can't argue with that. Yeah. I did have a spider in my shoe one time when I was out for a run. And it was still, I mean, thankfully it didn't die when I put my foot in and it was like running on it, but it was, that was disconcerting.

Yep. Yeah. Any input? I've only been able to focus on the fact that she gave us her temperature and Celsius for the past four minutes. And I haven't really been able to hear anything else other than that. Is it a millet? What was it?

Cause you had a military background. Did they only do Celsius? Like what is no, no, definitely not. The arm is not going to do anything smart like that. No, I guess like I was,

I, I have a STEM degree. And so like, I, I, I've like raging against the machine that we're holding out in America and using the Imperial system still. Why?

Why? Does anybody know why? I don't think it's the dumbest possible reason. And that's probably it. Is it just too expensive? Like, they're just like, I don't want to reprint all my rulers.

Fuck you. The rest of the world. Like, is that what's going on? I wish I had an answer. So anyways, I'm teaching my children Celsius and millimeters and meters.

So just for context, how cold is it in Florida right now so I know where the question came from? Is it like 40? I don't understand. Oh, so what's that like? Let me Google that for you. So I don't have to math it?

Did she say it was like 20 or something? I'm not doing no math. 65 or something like that? You're bitching about 65 fucking degrees Fahrenheit? Are you kidding me? It's 60. Yeah, it's 60. I would fucking be outside shirtless in 60.

I fucking shovel the driveway sometimes in my just shorts and sandals if i fucking if it's like you know if i just need to shovel the driveway real quick like uh i don't give a fuck uh i don't know i've always lived in the northeast um even in west for everyone thinks that you know i lived in west virginia for 20 years and it was like the deep south like i lived like as far north in west virginia as you could get outside of like being in a panhandle uh so like i've experienced like all four seasons of my entire life and lived on a mountain that got fucking a ton of snow and ice so i don't know i uh i do have kind of shitty circulation in my feet and hands so like i do suffer like when i am working outside like my

feet get fucking cold pretty quick but like my rest of my body stays warm so just kind of power through and you know take breaks and go sit in a warm truck and you know always make sure that heat's coming out of the the floor vents more than anything else because that's my priority to get warm first uh but i mean the house like we keep the house at like no more than 66 degrees typically in the winter um i don't know i just i've never not had three or four months of shitty cold weather. So I don't know what it's like to like, you know, just, I just know that I'm not gonna do anything outside for a quarter of the year. It just like is recreationally. That is, I guess.

I, when I was right after college and I went to Oklahoma for army training, and mind you, I went to college in Florida, so I go straight to Oklahoma with my Florida summer army year. or december and we're out in the field and we have to do like a a tactical march to a like a training mission and it's like 12 degrees fahrenheit and like i have just like summer boots like this summer jack like you know lightweight jacket and then like we're marching and we're i don't know maybe a mile in and like i go to take a sip of water and all my fucking water is frozen i'm like how do you people do that like and so like then i spent the rest of the whole training session with frozen like five liters of frozen water but so i guess i think the argument would be we don't and there is a stupid version of you know not to get political or anything like that there is a stupid version of you know not to get political or anything like that there is a stupid version of just get used to the cold no bundle up stay warm and don't go out into it

unless you need to yeah like that's you know that's the other alternative of it it's not a matter of like i'm canadian so i'm just like naturally adept to the cold. No, cold is bad. Your blood freezes. Things happen to you. So like I can see what you're saying because I would say like that was not good versions of cold. You should not have been out in that stuff in that temperature. That's silliness to me. You know, I wore my winter coat for the first time yesterday as I decided in negative eight degrees Celsius to light a fire and cook a steak over the fire.

And like I paid for that. That wasn't a fun experience, but I wanted to do it. Was it type two fun? Yes, it was junk fun. So like, yeah, I would just that there there's ways around the cold there's no way around the heat you just have to embrace it there's no well then that's the same about the cold in it there's no natural anti-heat right there's no except for shade like you could go sit under a tree and hope shit goes well and then there's no bees and like i don't like the heat because you can't escape it right

i have multiple fans air conditioner all that shit but like heat's heat if it's gross outside and as a ginger i'm gonna burn in seconds the fridge door is gonna burn me tonight like it's i have such translucent skin so you know the alternative is i just i don't think i could live in forever heat i won't even travel to the damn equator equator because like my dad's always trying to get me to go to cuba i was like i I don't want to go there. It sounds hot. The food sounds bad. I don't want to go to Cuba. So I think there's an alternative too, right? I'm sure at some point I would

like the heat. I did enjoy it in Ohio when it was a little warmer than it was here, but I don't think I'm a heat person myself. Well, at least in the heat, you're not going to like get frostbite. True,

but I'm also not going to get frostbite in the cold. Cause I can put on socks and boots. I could suffer from sunstroke dehydration and a series of things in the heat, but I have no way of avoiding other than get out of the heat. So I just noticed something. She's, she's upset that it's 60 ish degrees fahrenheit yeah she has a she has her ceiling fan on in the room so it's so cold she's so i'm not upset that it's 60 degrees i'm just saying like i'm cold and 60 degrees well yeah

60s or how do you live lives where it's way colder than 60 degrees i mean but this sorry what's that do you guys have fun do you have a furnace at all like do you have any kind do you have like what you do have any heating source in your home well like we have the the hvac that well i know put it to heat yeah yeah i know some but we don't legitimately don't have furnaces because they texas says texas is like that they just don't have furnaces because they... Texas is like that. They just don't have them. They don't know what to do. Yeah. I mean, we don't have a furnace, but there's the heat switch on the HVAC thing.

But we haven't had it on all year. Yeah. So... For reference, when I say negative eight degrees Celsius, that is 17 Fahrenheit. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's what it was here all week, basically, but a little less. But yeah, no, it's funny you had mentioned the frozen water because i uh you know i i work out of a work truck and i always have a you know a gallon of poland springs water with me i think

it's that it's it's the heavy duty three liter jug but usually i'll just i'll i'll you know i'll fill it up and i'll put it back in the truck every night before i leave work but you know this week i couldn't do that because i left it in the one night and it was a fucking it was a seven pound block of ice yeah like that i had to like leave on left it in the one night and it was a fucking – it was a seven-pound block of ice that I had to leave on the heat register and it was still frozen by the time I got to the job site. So then I had to go to the gas station at lunch and get water because I still only had like an inch of water out of that thing. So then the rest of the week I've had to bring my water in, leave it in my heated office to then take it back out to the truck the next day. You can't leave shit in your car in the cold that's the one thing like you got to watch because like if you have sparkling water in the car it'll explode oh it'll explode beer is probably going

to explode well beer might not because the alcohol kind of keeps it nice but the like op soda cola whatever we were calling it today it's going to explode so you can't have like cold things but interestingly um we have a crew member from Iqaluit which is in Nunavut which is um it's just really far up north it's up in the Baffin Islands area uh I'm watching True Detective the new season that just came out and it takes place in alaska okay and i'm watching that going i could live like that like in that just like extreme cold where like you need to bundle up to go to the store but it's such a close-knit community for that reason like i romanticize a little bit about just living that far away from humans

maybe that's what i like about the cold too is everybody shuts up and leaves you alone i saw a picture on facebook from uh i think i'm in like a northern exposure like fan club group or whatever and someone posted uh something in alaska it was like it was you know it was the it was like a billboard it was one of those a digital billboard like a gas or something and it was negative 60 like fair jesus what the fuck one of those, a digital billboard, like a gas or something. And it was negative 60. Like Fahrenheit. What the fuck? Like,

I don't even know that's pot. Like negative 60 Fahrenheit is like, you're dead. Yeah. Any exposed skin is gone. Yeah. Yeah. You're,

you're, you're, that's RIP. Like that would be crazy. Uh, my wife would definitely love to not live in the cold. Like, I mean,

cause it, it, it inhibits her from getting her walks in pretty much all winter. Cause she doesn't like the treadmill and she fucking you know don't know doesn't want to risk falling on the ice and stuff so like yeah if we end up moving it's probably going to be out west somewhere at some point in my adult life well in my in my later years possibly but uh i don't know i've just never not known it same the same as you like you've never not known you know just hot all year yeah like you were saying you can't leave your water in the truck the flip side of that is just hot all year. Yeah.

Like you were saying, you can't leave your water in the truck. The flip side of that is I'm, I'm excited for this time of year because I can leave my chapstick and my gum in the car and it won't melt. So there's nothing worse than opening a pack of gum that you forgot in the car during the summer. And it's just like liquefied. No. chapstick one too just everywhere beard oil so gross you leave that

in the car it's just fucking gone in the heat yeah i'm with you on that one all right was that the only question you had for us that that is because i i'm just like at this time of year i just can't i just can't conceptualize super relevant too i'm sure there's other crew that were wondering the same thing do you have you not or or oh sorry go ahead have you not visited places that actually experience like dramatic cold temperatures have you like have have you ever she just told the story did i miss it well so i think like i told you i couldn't pay attention because i was still on the whole celsius thing she talked about oklahoma you're right well i've been to i've been to Did I miss it? Well, so I think like... I told you I couldn't pay attention because I was still on the whole Celsius thing.

You talked about Oklahoma. You're right. Well, I've been to Germany and like I spent two winters in Germany. So like that was pretty... That was my experience, but I was in Germany. So it was like, I'm in Germany. Yeah. You know?

Yep, you're right. I definitely heard that story. That's why she has uber couch because of her time in germany uber couch wounda couch well this is a blast i had fun uh i know we were all a little nervous like i was a little nervous because we had like we had such minimal uh interactions whereas i think everyone else have had at least like a slightly more rapport going in but this was i think i'm great i for one am amped to be under three hours yeah it's 46 oh i'm gonna go watch reacher but it's just like the one of the

things that the feedback i get at least from the people in my life is three hours is so daunting how do you guys do three hours and i was like i don't know i don't want to do it anymore i wish i could do less i think we always say like two hours is the goal but then it's just like i don't know this is like this is going to be just over two hours so i think it's perfect and i think you know i think everyone's going to get to know you a lot better uh you know hopefully you can get a lot more uh you know followers on instagram follow people back you know like you know get little side conversations with crew from that so eventually when you do either make it to the Arnold or make it out to, you know, the lift hard, live easy, you're just gonna be like, Oh, I've been talking

to you for a couple of years. Like we're friends. It's like, it's so much easier. Like, especially with this, like people are going to feel more comfortable, you know, DMing you or just commenting on your shit. So just, you know, you know, kudos to you for putting yourself out there and accepting the the invitation. Worst case, now you have to stick around for a bit. You can't leave the crew now because now we're all going to be looking for you. Where do we go? Thanks for having me on. Oh, sorry. No, no, no, please. That's that's what we're going to do is do the. Yeah, thanks for having me on. i know i'm just like a lurker in the in the discord but um it's it's always nice to chit chat so thank you and it's always important to get to

know the people that aren't the active the elders the forefront whatever you want to call them because like there's still 300 of us there's maybe 10 to 20 of us that are constantly active. There's still over 300 other people in there that like it would be really cool to get to know more. Maybe maybe it makes you more active, maybe not. But maybe it just makes it make more sense when you finally are, you know? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely would love to see you more active in there. You know, no, no pressure. But I think it's the more active you are, definitely the more people love to see you more active in there uh you know no no

pressure but i think it's the more active you are definitely the more people get to know you but you know that's that's entirely on you uh and don't don't be afraid of big matt mostly squat videos he talks a big game he's got a wicked back but he's got he's got a little bite uh that's why he didn't show up today we actually invited him on here to interview you and he just didn't show up again. Well, there you go. He's too busy missing overhead presses with the logs.

You've got to be careful calling people like that out. Oh, no. That's me. I always pick on people that are 60% stronger than me because it's more of a bit. Tanner, he's more of a bit. And it's like, yeah, yeah. You know, Tanner, you know, he's he's he's real weak, you know, and stuff like that. And he's got no quads.

I was no quads. At least he couldn't seven years ago. That's for sure. All right. So we are unpaid and underrated podcast. You can find us at unpaid intern podcast dot com. I am Big Keith. You can follow me at Keith Honeycutt 73. Go follow my orange gym the no wine cellar and we got uh big joey and big lara i'll tell you where they're at

oh lara you go first everybody knows me um on instagram at lara running wild l- there with decal and decal lara like i think i've brought it up before that there's um uh a movie called good cop on cop at a hearing in canada and um the the english-speaking police officers doing an odd in the autopsy room and he he says the word tattoo he's like oh yeah look at this person's tattoo and the french-speaking coroner looks at him and goes you got one t two t's two o's and your focus is that one a what a weird choice of language here too it's because it's tattoo right because there's more um it's just it's always just funny the the the dialects and the colloquialisms uh i'm joey you can find me at joey underscore let's go m-l-e-c-z-k-o and like i said last week it turns out there's a lot

of you that aren't following me and it's kind of wild like lara you were an example of that where i was like okay i'll go follow them i was like how am i not how am, Lara, you were an example of that where I was like, OK, I'll go follow them. I was like, how am I not? How am I not already? You were I think I brought it up last week. There's a bunch of people that we I don't connect with on Instagram and you were one of them. So you were kind of the example of me to stop saying, yeah, you already follow me. I don't mind you who I am.

No, you're a good example of like, no, I guess not. Everybody is. There's a there's a new crew coming like every day or two. So it's like I've been trying to make a point now to like as soon as they come in I'll like, you know, try to get a hold of them somehow or, you know, try to figure out where they're at on Instagram and follow them on both pages.

But it's like no one wants to post their socials half the time. And it's like, well, I can't find you. I don't know who the fuck you are. And it's like post your handles, post your handles but uh i think that's a wrap this week so we'll go ahead and dive right in and we will see you next tuesday