Up and Vanished - S2E2: Welcome To Crestone

Episode Date: August 27, 2018

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Starting point is 00:01:38 On the way to Crestone, you curve around mountainsides and dip into valleys, passing by a series of ranches and small former mining towns. Picturesque, but tired. As you approach the Sangre de Cristo range of the Rockies, it's wide open sky, wide open road, and just mountains. Once you hit the small town of Moffitt, you turn left on the Colorado Road T, and at the end of that road, there's Crestone. People that come to Crestone are dreamers. People that come to Crestone are dreamers.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Their dreams would cost money to come to fruition, and no one here has any money. But that doesn't stop them from dreaming. Economically, this place has struggled since the mines gave out 110 years ago. Now, flash forward 110 years ago. Now, flash forward 110 years, there are very few Colorado towns left like Crestone. I have been here full-time since 2000, so 18 years.
Starting point is 00:03:02 There is low-level crime. People don't lock their doors here. We police ourselves, and everybody understands this. I haven't been in a city for so long, I don't know what people think is an average amount of crime. You know, when I leave my house, I don't lock the house. There is no police presence in this town. The closest policeman when you pick up a phone and dial 911
Starting point is 00:03:30 is in Swat, a 45-minute drive away. So for the first 45 minutes that you're dealing with some nutcase, you're on your own. From Tenderfoot TV in Atlanta, this is Up and Vanished. I'm your host, Payne Lindsey. In this museum, time stops, history stops, in 1981. This is Jim McAlpin, who dedicates his time to preserving Crestone's past at the one and only
Starting point is 00:04:48 Crestone History Center. They're not interested in the mining story. The story they're interested in is from 1981 to present. How did this thing turn into a spiritual center? Where is this woman?
Starting point is 00:05:01 I think she's in blue. Hannah Strong did it. I am convinced that the prophets of doom have got to be taken seriously. In other words, doomsday is a possibility. I'm equally convinced that doomsday is not inevitable. This is Maurice Strong, husband of Hannah Strong, a Canadian businessman and former member of the United Nations. In the late 70s, Crestone was merely
Starting point is 00:05:25 just a ghost town, but Hannah and Marie Strong had a remarkable vision for it. Today, man's own activities have reached the scale where they are the principal determinants of his own future. We are now effecting more changes in the composition of the atmosphere, in the composition of the waters of the world. The natural world in which man lives and on which he depends is indeed deteriorating, is being destroyed in many instances. Whether we are pessimistic or optimist depends really on what we think about the nature of man. Whether we really believe that man, in light of this evidence,
Starting point is 00:06:03 is going to be wise enough and enlightened enough to subject himself to this kind of discipline and control. Hannah and Marie Strong purchased thousands of acres throughout the San Luis Valley, outside Crestone, and established an area called the Baca Grande, with a grand vision in mind, to create one of the largest interfaith communities in the world. Hannah Strong granted over 2,000 acres to various spiritual and environmental groups,
Starting point is 00:06:30 making it the largest of its kind in North America. Today, Crestone consists of over 15 different spiritual centers. I have seen a lot of the planet. I come back home and I compare the places that I've been to to this place and this place always comes out on top. So I'm not likely to move. The bar is set kind of high. This is a world-class place that nobody knows about. Around 1900, Crestone hit its mining boom, but the resources were limited and the boom subsided quickly,
Starting point is 00:07:10 dropping Crestone into a long stretch of economic decline. When I moved to Colorado in 1972, there were a lot of towns like this. There aren't anymore. By default, this town is now unique. According to the U.S. Census, the town proper has a total area of 0.2 square miles. There are very few employers here. The hardware store is one.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That grocery store is another. So you're not going to get rich. But you can live pretty cheap in this town. Most people that identify with Crestone don't actually live in town. They live in the Baca, the vast surrounding residential area. I've never seen houses like the ones in the Baca. Earthships, domes, lots of geometric shapes. Earthships, domes, lots of geometric shapes. There's no building code.
Starting point is 00:08:10 The homes here certainly reflect their inhabitants. Sometimes the characters that show up here, you go, first of all, you can tell they're not here long term. And then you hope they don't do too much damage while they're here. But all sorts of loose people in society, kind of the shake, if you were to shake down a bunch of dope and the stems and seeds were to, you know, fall into a little crack. Those are the people, the stems and seeds of society. Just outside of town, along the highway, is a tall watchtower overlooking the valley. When I first looked at it, I thought, oh, that's a big white bird.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Then my brain kicked in and went, wait a minute, that's 40-some miles away, that's no bird. So I watched it for two to three minutes, then it started to blink, it stroked, and was gone. I saw one ship, it was a round ship being chased by a jet, and another one was just sitting in the sky, it was blinking different colors, and I'm looking at it going, hmm, and all of a sudden it scoots about a quarter of the way across the sky, comes to a dead stop, and stop or make sharp-angled turns. That's a dead giveaway right there. That is a UFO. Welcome to the UFO Watchtower.
Starting point is 00:09:46 There have been documented sightings here in this valley since the 1560s. The conquistadors actually wrote in their journals about the strange lights they saw here. This is Candace. She helps operate a UFO watchtower just outside of Crestone, a two-story structure providing a clear view of the sky. For the price of just two dollars, you can use the observation deck yourself. It's really, really cool. Since Judy opened in 2000, we've had 157 documented sightings. That's not counting sightings that people have had that have not written them down for us. Judy seen 27, I've seen 14. The Native Americans consider this a sacred valley, and it is. It's filled with energy.
Starting point is 00:10:28 We have our delightful little garden out there. Since Judy opened, there have been over 25 psychics who've told her the same thing. There's two major vortexes in the gardens. The vortexes are portals to parallel universes. Each one is filled with energy, and each one has a guardian. As you walk through the garden, be aware of your body because you can feel the energy. 99% of the people feel the energy. If you have any issues you're working on, physical, mental, emotional, or spiritual, you can ask the guardians for assistance. And if you are open to receive, don't be surprised what happens.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We've had reports of miraculous healings on all levels in the garden. at night you're above any highway lights and you have an unobstructed view horizon to horizon of the most phenomenal sky you've ever seen in your life Everybody please sign the guest book We want to do whatever we have to do Within the legal means Of finding the people Crestone is remote And even though it's four hours away, Rodney is determined to get answers for his family. You know, the people that I've talked to, they're keeping this alive.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's going to be lighting a fuse, and that moving, you know, is keeping the story alive and putting pressure on people. Buckle up. Get ready for the ride, because it's just starting. Thank God for social media. And the internet. I was just in Comcast complaining about my internet. Rodney's a guy who, he spent 15 years trying to help Crystal in every way he could, like a second daughter.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And I know the guy lays awake at night wondering if he could have done things differently so that she would have been in a different place and maybe not put herself in danger if she did that night. And every time I talk to him, he's got this guilt about it. And I have to keep reminding him there aren't a fraction, a small percentage of people in this world who would take in a teenage stranger to help them out of an awful life circumstance. We need more of him in this world. When it comes to getting this solved, I think he literally would sell every possession he had if he knew it would bring her home.
Starting point is 00:13:28 This is Chris Halsney again, from Fox 31 Denver. It is amazing the number of people who don't pay attention to anything. It's incredible. In a small town like that, I can't imagine that a lot of them are trolling through their own social media accounts every day ten times. I don't even know if there's a TV station that they can get if they don't have some kind of satellite. I think they move there for a simpler life, a lot of people to get away from all that chaos of the news. So
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Starting point is 00:16:16 Rocky Mountain High, John Denver was singing about the Rocky Mountain High. You know, what he was relating to, I think, was just the quality of what it's like to be out west with these big mountains and big sky and lots of room around you. There's just not that many people. The skies are the darkest, one of the darkest places in the country, if you look. There's just no big cities nearby,
Starting point is 00:16:41 and we can see all the stars, all the stars at night. Having the mountain lions out your back door and bears and, oh my, yeah, it's good. David told me that the wildlife here was abundant and sometimes even dangerous. I come face to face with a mountain lion. I was peering into the black depths of this darkness in the back of the cave, and two eyes just came toward me. I had my umbrella ready to protect myself and my friends. An umbrella? Yeah, an umbrella, because it had a...
Starting point is 00:17:14 you have a button, and if you just push the button, it pops open, bam. And, you know, I saw it on some movie, and I knew that, you know, if it attacked me, I could scare it with the movie and I knew that you know if it attacked me it would I could scare it with the umbrella and probably get away and anyway I got out of the cave and all the people I was with you know I told him you know be calm you know just move away slowly and oh five people running down
Starting point is 00:17:39 the mountain running down the mountain oh my god so I ran to the mountain. Oh, my God. So I ran, too. The mountain lions usually steer clear of people, unless you're wandering around in a cave. But some of the animals often find their way into town and cause disturbances. The bears, the bears we deal with the most. They know what refrigerators look like. If they see a refrigerator in your house, they'll break open a window and get in
Starting point is 00:18:04 and open their fridge and eat everything. Eat your frozen food. Bust down your cabinets and eat your nuts. It's crazy. Coyotes. Coyotes, they'll eat everything. Bobcats. It's a very dynamic place because the animals are in our faces.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Recently, one of David's friends had a frightening encounter with a bear. Yeah, she left some food in her car and a bear came up and fumbled with the door and managed to open the car door and crawled into the car. Door closed, locked behind the bear. It couldn't get out. Yeah, it ate her car. It ate her car. Destroyed her car from the inside out. Ate the steering wheel off, ate the dashboard, shredded the seats, shredded everything. She found a raging bear inside of her car, eating her car. She lost that vehicle. It was done. They said, we can't fix this. They totaled it.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah, yeah. Once I was here, I couldn't go back to the big city life. It's like the, I don't know, the valley. It's pretty magical. It's quite a mix of people, all age groups, of course, and a lot of the older people, actually, I think, came here for spiritual pursuits. A lot of the religions seem to be open to other people, too, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I like it because it's not so, you know, we're the ones and you're not. You know, everybody seems to accept one another, which is nice. Just the presence of the place, you know, the quality of the land and the sky and vastness in the sky, yeah. You know, many of our spiritual traditions, they use the vastness of the land and the sky and vastness in the sky, yeah. You know, many of our spiritual traditions, they use the vastness of the sky as like a reference point for mind. In recent years, Crestone has seen
Starting point is 00:19:54 its fair share of newcomers. There's a lot of young people who are coming now, and like anywhere else, there's drug people and there's crazy people, but, you know, for the most part, I think it's a fairly unified being awake, you know, being kind person, not being sectarian, not being radical. Although we do recycle. I asked David how the community feels about Crystal's unsolved disappearance. I mean, it's really terrible because everybody knows about it,
Starting point is 00:20:29 and it's kind of hard to live with. I mean, we're just not that kind of place, you know? It's like everybody's welcome here, and people aren't generally disappearing, and people are not settled with it. It's not okay that she disappeared and going on two years I guess and you know people still talk people are I heard this and did you hear that and all these kind of notions about what might have happened to her and some people think oh maybe she just went somewhere maybe she went to a different country or something like that you know but then you know other people
Starting point is 00:21:03 think you know she might have got mixed up in a bad element or that she might have met the wrong people. And nobody knows, but I've got an awful lot of, I don't know if it's speculation or things that people actually heard. No one really knows what happened to Crystal. We want to know. We all want to know.
Starting point is 00:21:26 A person can only disappear on account of some wrongdoing by the wrong people. We're a community of mixed people, and there's bad eggs in there. There's bad eggs, and we know it. Within my first few days in Crestone, I had definitely met my fair share of interesting people, but no one seemed to know any details about Crystal. I reached out to the Swatch County Sheriff's Department, who's in charge of the case. I'm Dan Warwick. I'm the sheriff here in Swatch County. I am the chief law enforcement official in the county. And that's really what the job is, is making sure that people's rights are not violated.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Their safety is priority over anything else. Making sure the public in these communities is safe. The county itself is right around 3,200 square miles, so it's a very large county to cover. Jim McAlpin from the Crestone Museum had expressed that Crestone was a place that policed themselves. I asked the sheriff about this. It's not taking people, dragging them down the street, and you're going to clean this yard for community service. That's not what we mean by police themselves. They actually tried to work it out amongst themselves.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Do it in a peaceful way. Talk to each other about it. You know, you caught Johnny's kid stealing something from the store. Store owner grabbed Johnny by the head and said, come here, boy, and call his parents. Parents come in, they deal with it. A lot of times kids will have to do some community service for the store owner. That does happen here quite often, which that's okay.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I mean, in my day, that was a way that it got handled quite often. If the store owner would have whipped your butt for it too, great. When you got home, you're still going to get whipped by your parents and you're still going to do the things the store owner expected. The majority of the people up here, I think, are very good people, came up here for the peace and tranquility of this area. But we do have, I'm going to say say the trust fund kids and things like that that have come up here that are not responsible, that mommy and daddy didn't want them around them because
Starting point is 00:23:31 there's such a pain in their ass, so they send them down here for everybody else to deal with. I blame the parents of a lot of these kids. Quit enabling your children to be trash. You know your kids are using drugs and everything else, but you're still funneling money to them, buying them their house and paying their bills. Knock it off. Make these kids grow up and get a life. The people up here are here because they paid their way here,
Starting point is 00:24:02 they enjoy the area, they love the beauty of the area, and they're destroying it. It seemed like Dan was making a public service announcement to a particular group of people in town, what he referred to as the Trust Fund Kids. I asked them about the condition of Crystal's apartment after they first learned she was missing. Saw that her cell phone was there, milk in the fridge was not too far expired,
Starting point is 00:24:24 but it showed that she had recently purchased it. It wasn't something that she bought six months before or nothing like that. It was purchased within probably a week of her actual time of coming up missing. So when you walked in her apartment, what was your first impression of the way it looked? A little disorganized. Some things thrown about, things like that. A little bit of a mess, but not like somebody went in there and ransacked the place.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Based on Dan's first impression, there was no evidence suggesting a struggle inside her home. Then where'd she go? You know, a lot of people will step outside, leave their cell phone sitting on the table, and no big deal. Other people will decide, I've had it it and just go out the door and go for a hike, leave everything behind. It's really individually based. What kind of person is this? In this case, we don't know enough about this person. Initially, the sheriff's department had difficulty learning more about Crystal's character. People either had few details or just didn't talk at all. around town and everybody's got a different opinion. Oh, she loved the mountains. Hey, where would she go to the mountains?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Well, we don't know. If everyone's trying to claim they know this person so well, where at was her favorite place in the mountains? Nobody knows. We're literally flying blind. How was it that no one in town was close enough to Crystal to offer more insight? Clearly these people had to exist somewhere.
Starting point is 00:26:05 With no signs of foul play in her apartment, one of the first theories was that she went hiking in the mountains and had an accident. A missing hiker, they're not really missing. They're just off trail. We don't know that she went hiking and got off trail.
Starting point is 00:26:19 We don't know this. She's not a hunter, so we know she wasn't out hunting. Hiking, maybe. But everybody that goes hiking that I've ever known, they take supplies with them. It doesn't appear she took anything with her. As weeks went on, other rumors surrounding her disappearance began emerging. Initially, a lot of people said that she wanted to follow with the Rainbow Gathering.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I don't know if you know what the Rainbow Gathering is. It's a group of people. They literally go place to place camping and things like that. According to the unofficial website for the Rainbow Gathering, they describe themselves as, quote, brothers and sisters, children of God, families of life on Earth, friends of nature, and of all people. Along with that description, I found a slew of articles about the Rainbow Gathering,
Starting point is 00:27:10 including homicides and missing persons cases, all related to the group's outings. Hmm. Quite a few people said she got in a van with these guys that were going to the Rainbow Gathering and went with them. But then we're like, why wouldn't she take her cell phone or anything like that? gathering and went with them. But then we're like, why wouldn't she take her cell phone or anything like that? Now the rainbow gathering, most of them don't take technology with them. They don't want the phones and all that stuff. They want to be off the beaten path and away from the authorities more than anybody, I think. We asked them to check their camps, just see if she's there. If so,
Starting point is 00:27:42 just tell us yes. That's the end of it. And we never did get a response back from them saying she was there. So we're pretty certain she probably wasn't with them. But we also called law enforcement in different areas where that gathering was being done and asked them to check also. Never panned out. So we're pretty certain she wasn't there. We don't know enough about her. I asked the sheriff where he plans to go from here. It's a heavy burden to try to get it solved, but we need the public's help to do so in most cases. The public learns more about these cases probably than we do in a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Everybody on the street will talk to each other when they won't talk to us. The best way for us to move forward with things is people to come forward and say, I'll go on any paper you want. Any type of affidavit to get a warrant or do whatever the heck you need to do, be willing to testify in court. That's where we can move further with the information. The main goal for us is to keep the community safe and to find everything that we need to get closure for the family. Let's not just let it become the typical cold case where it's stuck in a file in the back room and that's where it sits until something comes up. The second that everybody stops talking about it, that's when those files go to the back room and not looked at on a regular basis. I think it
Starting point is 00:29:06 needs to be talked about a lot and kept in the forefront. I think it's going to take the public. I think it takes somebody coming forward with actual correct information, the actual facts of what occurred the night of her disappearance or the day of her disappearance, whichever it may be. I don't care if it's somebody from the public, if it's you, if it's day of her disappearance, whichever it may be. I don't care if it's somebody from the public, if it's you, if it's one of my guys, somebody from another country, I don't care. If we can get it solved, that's the goal. Your story may end up bringing closure to this.
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Starting point is 00:31:23 Friday! It's Friday! It's Friday! Friday! It's Friday! It was a Friday afternoon, and I met back up with David, one of the Crestone locals. He invited me to his friend Michael's house, and we sat around sipping his favorite brandy. And they showed off some of their drums. Well, it's kind of like a dunebeck. It's a dunebeck, but it's got this... David and his friend Michael essentially lead the full moon drum circles in Crestone, and they were there the night Crystal vanished.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I was at the drum circle. Yeah, I was. It's such a shame that that was the last time that Crystal was seen, because it was the night of the full moon. It was the night of the full moon. It was the night of the full moon. And I saw her alive. I saw her alive. I asked David to describe drum circles.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It starts out slow, and people start trickling in, and Jim Bay here, and some congas there, and a few dunebecks, and shakers, and there's one fellow that shows up with a bag of instruments. And so people that don't have instruments can pick something up and play. And got a big old fire going. Somebody that's inspired will start doing a beat. And everybody else will kind of start kind of seeing how they can fit into it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And sometimes somebody sings or plays guitar. Saxophone shows up every now and then. Since pot is legal there's always you know pot kind of going around and it's really quite lovely, quite lovely. It's about having fun. When I'm at Drum Circles I'm just focused on myself, basically, and drumming, trying to harmonize with everybody else, and I can miss the little things that are going on just outside of the firelight. I mean, there must have been 45 people, 50 people. I'm in the center of the circle, and then there's groups of people outside, just outside
Starting point is 00:33:22 of the circle, and I did see her that night. She didn't seem right. She didn't the circle. I did see her that night. She didn't seem right. She didn't seem right, I remember that much. She seemed distracted, she seemed like she had stuff going on, but since I really didn't know her personally, I didn't get involved or ask her if anything was alright. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Did she leave there and go back to town? See, that, I have no idea if she left or if she's still up in the woods in one of the caves or something up above the drum circle. She wasn't joyous. She was troubled. That was obvious. She just wasn't like a happy person, you could tell. I'm so horrified. So horrified.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Crystal lived in a small apartment building right in the middle of downtown Crestone. I met up with her landlord, Ora McDonald, and she walked me onto the property. So you see the blue-green building right there? Yeah. That's it. We're redoing the fence, but this was where my daughter and I lived is right in those French doors and we had the courtyard to ourselves. And Crystal was at the very end corner on the top. Okay. So there's three units downstairs, four upstairs when she was living here. They're knocking out all the walls down there and turning the whole downstairs into a cafe.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But she was in 201, which is just a studio room with a bathroom and kitchenette. And she didn't have any windows on this side. Her closest neighbor was in 202 which was Jeremy Sharp. The last time I actually saw her in person would have been at the Crestone brewery. I had bought her like I think two beers or three beers or something like that and we were just talking and making plans to hang out I think I I was waiting on food and then um I want to say it was like two or three days later when Ara first said she was curious about where she had been so we shared the foyer her she had like a studio apartment she had her own bathroom and stuff and then I had like this tiny little two-room thing right next to her.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Ara had said she hadn't seen Crystal. Ara called me and said she was going to contact the police and asked if I'd make a statement. And a cop showed up and Ara opened up the apartment. And I mean, everything of Crystal's was still there. Her purse, her phone, her tobacco. I didn't know her very well, but I knew her well enough that she's not somebody who would just leave her tobacco. Some people were claiming suicide, and I don't feel like that was her.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I mean, I got a good judge of people. She was pretty empathic, and I'm pretty empathic. That's why we connected, and we both read Tarot cards and do that kind of thing. I knew she struggled in a day-to-day sense with a lot of different things that I'm sure things I don't even know about but she never seemed to me to be a suicidal type of person and at the same time she also never did anything but talk about her daughter so I can't see her just like running away but honestly I mean I mean I don't even know what
Starting point is 00:37:02 to think it was it was one day she was here and the next day she was gone. I mean, we were making plans in the following days to hang out and stuff, so it was weird that all of a sudden she just disappeared. Was Crystal having parties at the house? I wouldn't say she ever had parties. I think there was maybe once or twice she had, like, three or four friends stop by, but it was, you know, like a mid-afternoon type deal. It was never a late night drinking party that I knew of.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Our walls are like paper thin, so I was never, I never heard anything or was bothered by anything. Do you know who used to stop by? There was a couple of random people, you know, that drifters that lived around Creston that I would see. And it was most of the people that she did surround herself with were, I would say, people that I don't personally see myself ever, like, trying to have a relationship or friendship with. They just seem a little... I don't want to, like, stereotype someone,
Starting point is 00:37:56 but they seem kind of like meth heads. Like, just kind of bums, you know? I couldn't even give you names about the people. I don't... If I saw them, I would know them. From Jeremy's description of these people, I couldn't help but notice the similarity to the group the sheriff was talking about, the Trust Fund kids. Knowing her personality, I don't see her doing that. And I don't know, I got,
Starting point is 00:38:28 I had weird feelings about it, like it was very strange how she just disappeared. I personally think that somebody had something to do with it and we just don't know. I mean, that's just my personal gut feeling. This is very eerie. I feel like somebody
Starting point is 00:38:43 in Crestone either did something or knows something. I really feel like there was some sort of foul play. I sat down with Aura McDonald, Crystal's landlord, to discuss everything in more detail. I first met her when she used to work at the brewery. She was super intuitive, super intelligent, extremely beautiful, almost mesmerizing. Her eyes were really beautiful and mesmerizing. She could see right into your soul. We used to do reading trades a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:25 She was an intuitive. She was a psychic. We both are. Why'd she move here in the first place? I remember her saying to get away from the drug scene in Denver. Try to get some clarity here. She was hoping to clean up and stay clean and just be someplace different to be able to breathe and relax. She was looking for a place to live where eventually she would have her daughter come and join her, and she was trying to stay clean from drugs.
Starting point is 00:39:57 She asked me if she could have one of the rooms in the building. She said she was trying to stay clean. She wanted her daughter to come out here. I said yes. I wanted her daughter to come out here. I said yes. I had her move in. And then a week later, I left to go to Boston with my daughter for two weeks. And that's when I got a ton of complaints when I came back from my trip. She was having people over partying a lot and they were super loud and keeping people awake. Contrary to what Crystal's neighbor Jeremy told me,
Starting point is 00:40:28 Aura said that she received several noise complaints about parties that were being held in Crystal's apartment. She developed kind of a reputation here in town for being unreliable. She started slipping back into the drug scene. She got fired from her job shortly after she moved in, and she was desperate to find a job, and because of that, you know, she was pretty much broke. She only lived in the building for about a month,
Starting point is 00:40:56 and Section 8 was paying the majority of her rent. She only had to pay $50, I believe, out of her own pocket. It's a strange town. We're surrounded by spiritual centers of all different kinds from all different walks of life all over the globe. There's a lot of people that come out here for retreats and meditations and just to get away. Same sort of thing as Crystal and many other people
Starting point is 00:41:21 come here to get some rest or get silence. It's kind of a melting pot. A lot of people that have a hard time with normal mundane society and are trying to get away from the city. Lots of solar panels and wells and people trying to live off-grid or live in more sustainable ways. But we also get a lot of mentally ill people and people with various problems. We don't have police presence here very much at all.
Starting point is 00:41:55 A lot of people come here that are running from the law. It's like the good, the ugly, the swordiest of swordy in with the best of the best. And it's all slammed in together here. There's a huge underground drug scene. There's a lot of ex-drug addicts that still live in town that would never, ever, ever tell the police anything. Because they hate police. Aura seemed pretty adamant about a particular drug scene here in Crestone, one that was
Starting point is 00:42:33 taking over. Everyone knows that the meth scene is here. Everyone knows who cooks the meth and who sells it. And it just is allowed to continue, you know, which leads me to believe either it's a payoff or they really just don't care and they don't want to have to do anything about it. On the day Crystal was reported missing,
Starting point is 00:42:58 Ora was with the police when they entered her home for the first time. I led them into her place. We found her phone, her bag, her tobacco. The window was open. The fan was on in the window. Some of the lights were still on. It looked like she had just left and hadn't every intention of coming back. Aura began expressing frustration with how the case was being handled, in her, at least. I was doing more investigating into her disappearance than the cops did. I mean, they basically just didn't really do much at all, even with the obvious stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Having talked to the sheriff myself, they've had very little information to go on. The minute Elijah arrives and starts to put up a fuss, that's when they send a search party out to look for her for two days, a month after she disappeared. Why would you ever wait a month to go search for someone? And it happens to be on the two days when baby daddy is visiting and wants to see that something's being done. There's a lot of people that would love to see justice done because the cops didn't do anything. There's lots of rumors. There's people who believe that she just walked off and didn't
Starting point is 00:44:12 want to have anyone know where she was at, but I highly doubt that. She had a long history of taking long walkabouts when she was not feeling solid, which I can kind of relate to. I had a similar thing when I was a teenager where if you get into an emotional funk, it helps to walk. She really did love her daughter a lot and her daughter was her main reason for living. So I, I mean, if she was going to walk out into the woods and purposely kill herself, I would think she would at least reach out to Elijah and say something. With my intuition, I think either she accidentally overdosed and they actually got rid of her body, or they gave her a bunch of drugs and she went out wandering around in the woods
Starting point is 00:45:00 and somehow got accidentally killed by being on drugs. But I highly doubt that she purposefully committed suicide. What people need to realize is that people get addicted to drugs because they're in pain originally and they're grieving. That's their way of self-medicating. I think Crystal's dead. Yeah, I don't think she's alive. The only way that she would really be alive is if she's locked up in somebody's basement right now. Before leaving Yara's house, she told me she had one more story to tell me about Crystal. Something that happened to her, just a few weeks before she went missing. She was late for rent, and that's when I went upstairs.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And at first she didn't answer, but I knocked a few more times, and then she peeked out, and she came in the hallway. Her whole face was blotchy and red and she'd been crying and looked like a mess. I asked her what was wrong. She said that she had gone to a party the night before and she was pretty sure that someone had drugged her and she was pretty sure that she'd been raped. up and vanished is an investigative podcast told weekly produced for tenderfoot tv by pain lindsey mike rooney and me meredith stedman with new episodes every monday executive producers pain
Starting point is 00:46:43 lindsey and donald albright additional production by resonate recordings as well as mason lindsey We'll see you next time. Our cover art is by Trevor Eiler. Special thanks to the team at Cadence 13. Visit us on social media via at Up and Vanished, or you can visit our website, upandvanished.com, where you can join in on our discussion board. If you're enjoying Up and Vanished, tell a friend, family member, or coworker about it. And don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening.

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