Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! - WWDTM: Michelle Williams

Episode Date: June 15, 2024

On this week's episode, actor and singer Michelle Williams talks growing up in the church, auditioning for Destiny's Child, and how to get an NPR audience to sing a hymn. Plus, panelists Alonzo Bodden..., Helen Hong, and Paula Poundstone talk flags.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Rachel Martin. After hosting Morning Edition for years, I know that the news can wear you down. So we made a new podcast called Wild Card where a special deck of cards and a whole bunch of fascinating guests help us sort out what makes life meaningful. It's part game show, part existential deep dive, and it is seriously fun. Join me on Wild Card wherever you get your podcasts, only from NPR. From NPR at WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. Welcome everybody to Billenium Park. I'm Bill Curtis, and here is your host at the J Pritzker Pavilion in Chicago's Millennium Park, Peter Segal.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. Thank you all so much. We are so excited to be back here at the beautiful Pritzker Pavilion on the Chicago lake front. We love doing the show outdoors. This year, though, we had to make a deal to work it all out. Took some time, but it's done. While we are here, four million cicadas are using the Studebaker Theater down the block. Later on, we're going to be talking to proud Illinois native singer and actress Michelle Williams, formerly of Destiny's Child. But first, we're going to be talking to proud Illinois native singer and actress Michelle Williams formerly of Destiny's Child
Starting point is 00:01:25 But first we want you to harmonize with us the number to call is one triple eight wait wait That's one eight eight eight nine two four eight nine two four now. Let's welcome our first listener contestant. How you wrong? Wait, wait, don't tell me. Hi Peter. This is Brian calling from Seattle. Hey, what's up in Seattle Brian? We got some fans beautiful afternoon. What, what's up in Seattle, Brian? We got some fans. Beautiful afternoon. What do you do there in Seattle? I'm an engineer for a local aerospace company. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Almost a two-year-old. You're an engineer for a local aerospace company there in the Seattle area. Just one of those local mom and pop corner plane manufacturers. That is correct. Yeah, and that's great. And do you have anything to do, do you work on say the doors? That's handled by other people.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Other people, other people, that's somebody else's problem. Okay, well Brian, welcome to the show. Let me introduce you to our panel with us here on stage at the Pritzker Pavilion. First, a comedian performing in Ashland, Oregon at Bellefiori Winery on July 5th and at the San Francisco Punchline on July 24th through the 27th, it's Helen Hall.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Hi, hi Brian, hi everybody. Hi Helen. Next, the comedian you can see June 20th to the 23rd, it's SideSplitters Comedy Club in Tampa, Florida, Alonzo Boden. Hello, Brian. Alonzo. And she will be at the Rams head on stage June 22nd in Annapolis, Maryland,
Starting point is 00:02:57 and the Lincoln Theater in Mount Vernon, Washington on July 20th, it's Paula Poundstone. Hey, Brian. Paula. So welcome to the show. Brian, you're of course going to play Who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, you'll win our prize.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Any voice from our show you might choose for your voicemail. Are you ready to go? I am. All right. Now your first quote is from a champion athlete suddenly banned from his sport's premier competition. To my fans, I love you and appreciate you. Rest assured you'll see me eat again soon. That was competitive eating great Joey Chestnut after he was banned from what big competition?
Starting point is 00:03:44 The Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. Yes, you even branded it correctly. The Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. Sixteen-time champion of the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, Joey Chestnut was suddenly banned from this year's contest after he signed an endorsement deal with a maker of vegan hot dogs. And if you don't follow MLE, Major League Eating, that's what it's called, you may not know how big a deal this is. Joey Chestnut is the guy. This is like the NFL banning Tom Brady or the WNBA banning Caitlin Clark or
Starting point is 00:04:29 the Premier League banning some soccer guy. Do people like to watch, I mean, do you all watch competitive eating? You got to watch it like it's a train wreck, Paula. You don't intend to watch it, but then you can't tear your eyes away. Do they have cheerleaders? And are they just moms? Go, eat, eat, Joey, eat. You didn't finish your dog, no,
Starting point is 00:04:59 you're not getting anything else until you finish your dog, Joey. I think we've stretched the term athlete as far as it can go. When we start including competitive hot dog eaters, I think at this point the team handball players are like, see, we're athletes. When you think about it, he is the perfect person to endorse vegan hot dogs because there is no one in the world better at swallowing hot dogs without tasting them. Well, you know, the easy thing about saying vegan hot dogs is look, no one knows what's in a hot
Starting point is 00:05:35 dog. So if you tell us it's vegan, we're like, yeah, okay, whatever. Yeah, sure it is. Nathan's could have just said, you know, ours are vegan. People like, yeah, why not? Exactly. Brian, your next quote is someone caught on tape talking about her particular hobby. I made a flag in my head. This is how I satisfy myself. I made a flag. That was the very weird wife of which Supreme Court justice? I think that's Justice Alito. Yes! That is the answer. Now just a few weeks ago we all thought Justice Alito was throwing his wife under the bus when he blamed the whole thing about them flying an insurrectionist flag on his wife saying, oh my wife just is really into flags, she's a flag freak. It's true. She loves flags. She designs flags and she regularly flies flags as a great way of sending messages to her neighbors such as
Starting point is 00:06:35 do not engage with me at the block party. That's how she satisfies herself. That's how she satisfies herself. That's how she satisfies herself. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, I'm starting to feel a lot more sympathy for Justice Alito. Bite your tongue. I wonder if Justice Alito, after a night of passion, ever turns to Martha Anne. were you thinking about me? Or were you creating a flag in your head?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Well, you know, more evidence for her actual obsession. Her Spotify wrapped last year, it's just, it's a grand old flag over and over again. Well, what she's kept to herself so far until it needs to be released is that she's also really into stickers and color forms. Yeah. It's just quirky. Martha Anne Betsy Rosolito is just quirky. Your last quote, Brian, is about a new tech feature that allows you to remotely take over
Starting point is 00:07:45 somebody else's phone and help them use it. This will save my relationship with my parents. That was tech writer Joe Wetuszek talking about one of the many new features announced from what company this week? Apple? Yes, Apple, the big news. Apple everybody, we love them. We have no choice.
Starting point is 00:08:03 The big news out of Apple's Developers Conference this week is a feature that allows you to share screens during a FaceTime call. That means, finally, you can actually be your parents' IT department. They can't do something. You just say, OK, let's do this. And you can actually do it on their phone for them
Starting point is 00:08:20 from wherever you are. That's great, except at the end of the call, they take a short survey on how satisfied they are with your service. But don't you need them to do something to allow you to get into their phone? Ah, the Catch-22. Yeah, like, just getting... As someone who helped my parents set up Zoom over the pandemic, I swear to God, I aged like 20 years in that one afternoon. It's also, it's also good news for scammers who want into your phone. It's like,
Starting point is 00:08:49 greetings mama, this is son. Please share access to phone for favorite boy. Yeah, my mom would be like, okay, and she doesn't even have a boy. Okay, this function hasn't been introduced yet, has it? It'll come in the next update. There'll be other features as well. For example, they've upgraded the photo software so that you can eliminate like a person from a photo. No.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, like you have a picture with an X and you don't want the X in it anymore because otherwise it's a nice picture. If you're really angry, you can do it with all your wedding photos and in like five minutes it's just a photograph of a fabulous party you threw for yourself while you were wearing a great dress. Well I know what Samuel Alito is doing when he gets his new mom. Bill how did Brian do in our quiz? A perfect score. Boeing is back. Congratulations Brian. Well done. Thank you. Congratulations, Brian. Well done.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Thank you. Good job, Brian. Thanks for playing. Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Helen, we have a musical question for this wonderful musical venue. During Hunter Biden's trial, a woman
Starting point is 00:10:03 testified that Mr. Biden had hired her to do a lap dance and played his preferred music for this lap dance on his own phone. So we're going to play you two pieces of music. You tell us which one he chose for the lap dance. Okay? Here we go. Was it A? Okay. A. ["I Was Fallin' In The Ice"]
Starting point is 00:10:27 Okay. Or was it B, and again, this is what he wanted played at his lap dance. I was fallin' in the ice, fallin' in the ice, I was fallin' in the ice. Oh my gosh. That second one is so weird, it's gotta be that one. That's right. What is it. No.
Starting point is 00:10:46 He had the Fleet Foxes playing for his lap dance. What are the Fleet Foxes? What is that? That was them, that little sort of folk alt band you heard a moment ago. Oh God, how do you even lap dance to that? I can show you. There's no beat, there's no like... No, no, you can't.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You can't. She's tried. I've never heard of bringing your own music to a lap dance. I didn't even know that was a thing. I won't lap dance any other way. I always say to people, no, you provide. I have lap danced to folk music. So it can be done.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Let's put on this little number by the weavers and get comfortable. But have you lapdanced to Bach? I draw the line. I have to draw the line. We should know by the way that that first song was by Def Leppard and we just Googled number one song for lap dance, that popped up. And incidentally when we googled number one Fleet Fox's song for lap dance, we got back no.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I was following the eye, I was following the eye, I was following the eye, I was following the eye. I was following the eye. Coming up, what happened in Belgium's Jemeb Castle, and did I pronounce Jemeb right? We'll find out in our Bluff Elicitor Game Call, on 888-WAIT-WAIT to play. We'll be back in a minute with more of WAIT WAIT DON'T TELL ME, from NPR. This message comes from NPR sponsor Grammarly. You use multiple platforms every day at work.
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Starting point is 00:14:00 Right now it is time for the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, Bluff the Listener game. Call 1-888-Wait- wait to play our game in the air or check out the pinned post on our Instagram page at wait wait NPR. Hi you're on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. Hi this is Olivia Levitt calling from Baltimore Maryland. I love Baltimore what do you do there? I'm a PhD student at Johns Hopkins studying biomedical engineering. Oh wow that's pretty impressive. You're one of those smart Baltimoreans. Isn't all medical stuff bio? Not really.
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Starting point is 00:14:54 Somethings afoot at the Flemish Chateau. No, that was not one of Bill's weird vocal warmups. Our panelists are going to tell you about something strange that happened recently at the Jemep Castle in Belgium. Pick the one who's telling the truth. You'll win the weight-weighter of your choice on your voicemail. You ready to go? Oh, yeah. All right. Let's hear first from Helen Hall. Have you ever watched the real world or Big Brother and wished it had less hot people and more politicians? Well, someone in Belgium thought of that because
Starting point is 00:15:26 that is the premise of the reality series The Conclave. Amidst the stunning grounds of Jemepe Castle, a medieval chateau, journalist Eric Gons plays the Chris Harrison slash Julie Chen to seven prominent Belgian politicians from various political parties vying for power in the upcoming elections. There are moments of conflict and reconciliation, awkward silences and barely disguised disgust, even solo confessional interviews in the literal chapel. Are there hookups though? Sadly not in the final aired version of the series, but after the election is over,
Starting point is 00:16:10 perhaps we'll see the Conclave after dark. The Conclave, a reality show featuring real politicians up for election in Belgium's real government locked into the castle for a week. Your next Once Upon a Time comes from Alonzo Boden. Is the new Tesla cyber truck fit for a king? Ten drivers paid to find out. As part of something called the Tesla Royal Adventure, Cybertruck fans could pay $50,000 extra and have their truck delivered to the Jemep Castle in Belgium where they would spend three days being pampered like
Starting point is 00:16:49 royalty while they drove their high-tech hardcore trucks around the grounds. This was great for buyers like Julian Gage who said the only way his wife would let him buy an $82,000 truck was including this trip. So everybody was up for it except the trucks. The first day saw a light rain and then saw 10 cyber trucks trying and failing to get up the muddy driveway. I got stuck in four inches of water, said Julian. Driver Ian Andrews took his out to the woods, immediately got stuck in a bog and suffered
Starting point is 00:17:23 the ultimate humiliation of being pulled out by a mule. Julian Gage's wife, Margarita, was happy, though. I floated away for three days of food, drink, and spa treatment, she told Auto News. Then I spent the whole trip home listening to my husband complain about a Wi-Fi glitch keeping him from opening his truck. I mean, I told him to get the Denali. Cybertruck enthusiasts spend $50,000 extra to go to Jemez Castle and not drive their new vehicles. Your last Castle Chronicle comes from Paula Poundstone.
Starting point is 00:18:04 The Union of Cleveland's Norma Claire De Delorme and Paul Hubert Matlock was celebrated by family and friends over a week at the 70-room, 13th century-built Jemeb Castle in Belgium, a destination wedding. The entire wedding party took a step back to the 1500s by contracting sweating disease, a bacterial disease characterized by fever and profuse sweating soon after their arrival. The ceremony almost had to be postponed because the bride and groom got their heads stuck in a battlement while taking a selfie. We were really wedged in there, says bride Norma DeLorme. Unfortunately, the sweat eventually allowed us to slide out.
Starting point is 00:18:46 When the wedding did take place, guests report hearing a rusty metal squeaking sound coming from the bride's chastity belt during much of the ceremony. Paul and I love history. We just thought an antique chastity belt would be, you know, historical, sexy, and it would have been if I hadn't
Starting point is 00:19:05 accidentally dropped the key in the moat. Paul dove right in after it, right in the middle of the vows. So romantic. That alligator ruined his tux though. We're suing the castle. That's dangerous. All right. One of these things happened at Jemepp Castle, a very real place in a very real country called Belgium. Was it from Helen, a reality TV show called The Conclave in which politicians were locked in and filmed as they debated each other before an election? From Alonzo Boden, a Cybertruck event where wealthy Cybertruck fans paid extra so they could go to this castle and get their new vehicle stuck in the mud or a destination wedding with a medieval theme that went medieval.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Which of these is the real story of doings at Jemepp Castle? I'm going to have to go with Helen's story. You're going to go with Helen's story about the reality TV show featuring politicians called The Conclave. All right. Well, to bring you the correct answer, we spoke to the New York Times Brussels bureau chief. The show had so many trappings of the reality show business, which was actually quite a lot of fun,
Starting point is 00:20:15 despite the fact that the protagonists were politicians. That was the Times of Matina Steves Gritneff talking about the real world Jemep Castle, as it were. Congratulations, you got it right. In fact, Helen was telling the real story. She wins the point. You win our prize, the voice of everyone you might choose for your voice. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Thank you, congratulations, and good luck with your studies. Alright, thanks. Take care. Bye-bye. and good luck with your studies. All right, thanks. Take care. Bye bye. Bye. ["The Godfather Theme"] And now the game we call Not My Job. Michelle Williams was born in Rockford, Illinois and grew up singing gospel in church.
Starting point is 00:21:00 She never thought she could do it for a living, but then she wound up in a little group called Destiny's Child. The greatest girl group of all time. And she's gone on to an amazing solo career and a starring role in many Broadway shows, including the new show Death Becomes Her, coming to Broadway soon.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Michelle Williams, welcome back to Illinois. Thank you. And don't wait till it's on. Now listen. Thank you. And for waiting for your coming. Now listen. Yes. Thank you for saying Rockford, because people from Chicago don't like when you front and act like you're from Chicago.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. And then people from Rockford are like, don't forget where you come from. Right. So you belong to us now. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You spent time here though, right? I spent a lot of time here.
Starting point is 00:21:43 The very, very first home I ever owned of my own, I was out in Olympia Field. It was a south suburb. It's still not Chicago. You can't be claiming Chicago. You gotta live in the city. And it's true that you were a gospel singer. Yes, I started off in the church.
Starting point is 00:21:59 You know, my mom made us go to church seven days a week. It seemed like it. But you know, once I got older and knew that I need something to anchor me, I really began to enjoy developing my faith and my spirituality in the church. So yeah. So you started off singing in the church. When did you start like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 cause you ended up in one of the great- How can you listen, y'all? So before then, I did a few years at Illinois State University. I thought, come on, Redbirds, Redbirds. Yay, Redbirds, you guys, okay, great. Hey, y'all. So I really thought I was gonna be like somebody's prosecuting attorney, prosecuting attorney,
Starting point is 00:22:43 or like, I wanted to go into forensic psychology. It was going to be one of the two. And then I would say this is really cool. Maybe my last semester I get a phone call from a friend of mine and he was just letting me know, hey, I'm about to go on tour with 98 Degrees and R&B legend Monica. And so I just said out my mouth, I said, well, if Monica needs a background singer,
Starting point is 00:23:09 tell her to call me. Y'all, he called me like a week or two later and said Monica's having auditions tomorrow in Atlanta. Can you get here? I was like, bro, I can't get there. I can't afford a next day airplane ticket. This is in 1999. I said, even if I took Greyhound, I would just got there in 2024
Starting point is 00:23:29 They stop in every county on Greyhound No shade no shame. But listen, listen, listen So he has a cousin that worked for United Airlines He said I'm gonna call my cousin Gladys to see if I can get you a buddy pass here to Atlanta Y'all I got the buddy pass to Atlanta. I did the audition for Monica. Guess what I sang Something Jesus see a him. Yeah Last year to sure Jesus is mine. Oh what a four days glory divine
Starting point is 00:24:07 air of salvation perfect divine. I'm born of his spirit washed in his blood. This is my yes all the day Yes. All the day. Of course. Wow. Of course, girl. Sounded great.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Wait a minute. All right, Michelle. Now, don't try and voice me, because I can't pay all of you. I understand that. Michelle, Michelle, we're gonna sweeten that in post. Yeah. They don't need no auto-tunes.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So anyway. So I sang the song. Yes. And I got the gig you sure did and I sang back on for Monica My mom didn't talk to me for like a week because she didn't know Monica was an R&B singer She thought angel of mine was a gospel song. That's like my angel of mine by Monica is not gospel. I said a prayer She's cool. She's fine And then after that tour was over, Destiny's Child was looking for, you know, some girls to just kind of fill in every now and then. I get a phone call from Beyonce's mom, Miss Tina, and she's like, hey, can you come to
Starting point is 00:25:18 Houston? We just want to have a meeting. Y'all, guess what song I sing something Jesusy something Jesusy this is my story oh we're gonna do a duet just just you just just watch y'all so that song is a banger for you I sang listen it got me they got me the gig with Monica y Y'all, I sang a good old Negro spiritual to audition for Destiny's Child. Walk with me, Lord, walk with me.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Walk with me, Lord, walk with me. While I'm on this tedious journey, Lord, I want Jesus every day of my life to walk with me. Wow. Wow. You know what? I would hire you. Yeah. Now, we go from there to Bootylicious.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I was about to say. So then you get on the band and your first big hit is bootylicious and what does your mom think of that? She got to escalate in a brand new house. All right. She's like, God is good. Yes. Well, Michelle Williams.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I know, we got to go, huh? We got to go. We have business to do. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go. I was like, God is good. Yes! Well, Michelle Williams. I know, we gotta go, huh?
Starting point is 00:26:48 We gotta go, we have business to do. We have a game to play. We have a game to play. Michelle Williams, we have asked you here to play a game we're calling. I'm a survivor. One of your biggest hits with Destiny's Child was Survivor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Right? Yeah. So we thought we would ask you three questions about the long running reality competition of the same name. Yeah. Right. Bill, who is Michelle Williams playing for? Matt Gridjuk of Chicago, Illinois.
Starting point is 00:27:17 There we go. Here's your first question. Contestants on Survivor are known for using anything they can find in the island to gain an advantage over the competitors. That explains why Shane Powers of Survivor Panama said he almost used what to gain an edge during various challenges? A. The live one-ton World War II-era mine he found floating off the shore. B. A book he brought from home called The Most Ticklish Spots on the Human Body and Where to Find Them or See a Kilo of Cocaine that Washed Up on the Beach While He Was Bathing There. Weed?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Not weed, no, it was cocaine. I was trying to clean it up, it's NPR, guys. We've heard of cocaine on NPR. What would cocaine have done, though? Well, I imagine it would have helped him with that, you know, the... How do you know? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'll go with C. You're gonna go with C, you're right, yes. Wow. As Powers explained after he found this kilo of cocaine, and I was never a fan of cocaine in my personal life, but I had thoughts of maybe rubbing in on our gums
Starting point is 00:28:33 before challenges to give us energy. You think maybe he found two kilos of cocaine? Maybe. He did say that rather rapidly. All right, here's your next question, that was very good. As you know, for the first part of each season on Survivor, the players have to cooperate with each other in order to beat the opposing tribe at various challenges. In the Marchesis Island season, contestant
Starting point is 00:28:55 Cathy did what for her tribe mate, contestant John? A, made him a new lucky teddy bear out of palm fronds when he lost his. Okay. B. pretended to be a doctor and called his employer with a medical excuse for being gone for two months or C. peed on his jellyfish sting. Oh, it's got to be that one. C. Yes, it is. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Apparently a legendary moment in Survivor. John came out of the water clutching his hand and yelled, I need someone to pee on me. And Kathy immediately obliged. All right, last question. Jeff Probst, that's Survivor's longtime host. He's made other reality TV programs over the years, including which of these?
Starting point is 00:29:40 A, Championship of Reality Show Champions, pitting winners of all the other reality shows against each other in fist fights Be live for the moment in which terminally ill people get taken on one last adventure before They die or see the rat race in which people are given dead and jobs in offices And we wait to see who quits last Process of elimination no see because we've already had two C wins. Right. A or B?
Starting point is 00:30:11 B! Yes it is! Woo! Wow. So how did Michelle Williams do in her quiz? With a little divine inspiration. She had them all right. She's a winner. Michelle Williams is a singer, actor,
Starting point is 00:30:30 and the host of Checking In with Michelle Williams. You can see her as Viola von Horn in Death Becomes Her. That's coming to Broadway in October. Michelle Williams, thank you so much for joining us. I'm way, way from coming. Oh, but you didn't tell them that I'm one of the owners of the Chicago Sky. I didn't know that.
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Starting point is 00:32:40 Peter Sagal thank you Bill just a minute oh like ABBA? We'll get ready for some AABBA in our Listener Limerick Challenge. If you'd like to play, give us a call at 1-888-888-924-8924. Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Paula, more and more people are coming forward this week to admit they don't know how to read what? Their credit card bill? No. Their phone bill? No.
Starting point is 00:33:12 You want to give me a hand? I was waiting for you to ask. Thank you. People are like, what does the triangle iron X iron hand mean? Oh, the washing instructions on there. Yes, your laundry tags. Nobody knows how to read those things. I don't either. I've your laundry tags. Nobody knows how to read those things.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I don't either. I've never known how. Nobody knows how. What does the triangle with an X mean? I don't know. It means don't. Does anyone here know? Yeah, don't wash it with triangles.
Starting point is 00:33:35 A huge elaborate joke that they just played on everyone. Like we're just going to put these symbols on here. They mean absolutely nothing. Yeah. According to an article in The Sun, many people are ruining their clothes because they don't know how to decipher those little symbols on the care tags on the inside of their clothes. Anybody who says they know what the signs mean, they're lying. Oh, I can understand it, I can't speak it.
Starting point is 00:33:57 You know, considering they had to literally put a warning on laundry like, do not eat this. Yeah. Symbols seem a little advanced for how to do laundry, right? I mean they had to tell us not to eat Tide Pods. I don't think we're going to be deciphering hieroglyphics on how to keep our clothes clean. Originally it was done to keep the information about our laundry from the Russians. Alonzo, you have to be 25 to rent a car, 35 to run for president.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Well, now there is a particular institution in St. Louis you can't get into unless you're 30 years old. What is it? Is it something that people have been doing at a younger age? It's something that most people do pretty much at every age, and most places you do this allow people of any age. I know what it is, and I'm just going to give it away. It's something that most people do pretty much at every age, and most places you do this allow people in of any age. I know what it is, and I'm just going to give it away. It's a tornado.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You can't be sucked up in a tornado. That's not it. Can you give me another hint? Sure. The Maid Her D will be checking ID. A restaurant? A restaurant, yes. This restaurant is called Bliss, and it
Starting point is 00:35:00 claims that banning people under 30 will help curate a quote grown and sexy vibe in their establishment right because everybody knows that you can't be sexy if you don't remember 9-eleven I was gonna say if you want to experience just older folks eating just go to any restaurant at 430 and And that's when they're there. It would be really funny if this place becomes really hip and 25 year olds are trying to sneak in and pretend they're older.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like yeah, the new Frasier totally isn't as good as the old one. Paula, there's a very popular tourist destination in China and they recently upgraded their restrooms by adding what to the stalls adding what to the stalls iPads no although it is an electronic device okay think of it as a kind of shot clock oh like I took the door springs open after 30 seconds not after not the door doesn't bring it open but there is something keeping track of what? How long you're in there?
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah, a timer. They've added timers on the outside of the stall, showing everyone how long any person has been in there. Oh my God, that's poop shaming! It is terrible, yeah. That's awful, I would never be able to go in those conditions. A part of a new movement,
Starting point is 00:36:24 and apparently it's hit Asia already, which is competitive peeing, speed peeing. Speed peeing. Get in, get out. Get in, get out. I'll tell you what, those plots will not be in the over 35 restaurant. Coming up, it's Lightning Felt in the Blank blank but first it's a game where you have to listen for the rhyme if you'd like to play on air call or leave a message at one triple eight wait wait that's one eight eight eight nine two
Starting point is 00:36:53 four eight nine two four you can catch us most weeks over at the Studebaker theater here in Chicago or come see us on the road at the beautiful man center in Philadelphia on June 27 tickets and info are info are at nprpresents.org. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi, this is Kara. Hey Kara, where are you calling from? I'm calling from Champaign, Illinois, but I also have to say that my hometown is Farmer City, Illinois. Ah, Champaign, the Champaign of towns in Illinois. Well, welcome to the show Kara. Bill Curtis is going to read you three news related limericks with the last word or phrase missing from each. Fill in that last word or phrase correctly on just two of the limericks. You will be a winner. You ready to play?
Starting point is 00:37:31 I think so. Oh no, you have to know so. Okay, I'm so ready. There's the attitude. Here is your first limerick. In the plane's final row, there's a spare chair with no bags all my clothes I will wear there and I also board lasts but I fly just as fast so I'm happy to pay basic. Airfare? Airfare, yeah. Canadian airline WestJet is now selling ultra basic airfare. It's perfect for people who've seen a cattle truck,
Starting point is 00:38:06 go buy them on the freeway and said, hey, that looks comfortable. If you buy an ultra basic fare on WestJet, you get no carry on luggage, you have to board last, and everybody, when you do board, booze you. Boo, shame, peasant. Are we getting to a point with the airlines where it's like, what else can you take away?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Oxygen. I mean, you've hit, you know, it's like the basic airfare, now there's a sub-basic, like at some point they're going to be like, wow, there's no service we can remove. What if we charge them and don't let them fly? Yeah. Here is your next limerick. The appeal of these guys is quite potent. Like a squirrel, they're intense.
Starting point is 00:38:50 They exploded. They are tense like some rats, and they're covered in tats. We love guys who look just like a... Rodent. Yes, the internet has declared that this summer is all about the hot rodent boyfriends. Conventional square jawed hunks are out, men who look a little bit like rats are in. This is great news for hot rodent boyfriends like Barry Keegan, Jeremy Allen White, and the cast of challengers who, we are told, are defined by their beady eyes, untidy hair,
Starting point is 00:39:23 and lanky stature. I mean, poor Jeremy Allen White spends all that time in the gym and he comes out and people are like, oh, you got creepy eyes, rat boy. Here's your last limerick. I'm just trying to text, I concur. But kids act like I'm wearing seal fur. I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:39:46 A thumbs up or okay. I just know I can't text the word. Oh my god, like what rhymes with concur? You've already won. I can just give it to you if you want. Just please put me out of my misery. It's sure. And I know, it doesn't really rhyme. That's why it's not really fair. Sure, the word sure. The Huffington Post says the worst text anyone can receive is just the word sure.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Why? Well, people say the word sure feels cold or even passive aggressive, like you might text, hey, do you want to meet at the movie theater at six? And when they respond sure, they might as well be saying, I'll meet you in hell. So, but it's also a matter of punctuation, because everybody agrees that if you say sure
Starting point is 00:40:29 with an exclamation point, well, that's great. That's, hey, I'm enthusiastic to do whatever you're saying. When a sure with a period means you think the person you are texting slept with your boyfriend. Yeah. Or even worse, sure with no punctuation whatsoever. We're fighting. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:45 So you agree with this? Yes. No. It's almost as bad as OK. Just OK. I think this is nonsense. Sure is not the worst text. Can I call you now is the worst text, followed by funny
Starting point is 00:41:02 with a period. Right? Texting is so stupid. No, you both have already talked about misunderstandings with words that if we set them in on the phone You have the phone in your hand when you're texting Just call Paula. I would rather get a text of 10,000 Shores and Okays than ever have to actually talk to someone on the phone. Ever again. We're done for. We're done for as a species. Bill, how did Kara do on our quiz? Kara, you still win with two out of three. Congratulations, Kara. Well done.
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Starting point is 00:43:15 Each correct answer now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores? Paula and Alonzo each have two and Helen has four. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my gosh. All right, Helen is clearly in first place. Paula and Alonzo are tied for second. Why don't we say Alonzo, you go first, here we go.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Let's get this out of the way. Absolutely, here we go. Following big wins for the far right across Europe, Emmanuel Macron announced snap elections in blank. France. Yes, this week world leaders met in Italy for the start of the 2024 blank summit. G7.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'll give it to you. On Tuesday over 5,000 contract drivers filed legal claims against online shopping giant blank. This week the winner of an AI image contest had to return his prize after it was revealed he blanked. Made it with AI? No, he was supposed to do that he actually just submitted a real photo that he took on Monday. Sure he did.
Starting point is 00:44:09 On Monday experts warned that extreme weather in the US may mean that blank will run out of funding before the year's end. Femah? Right on Thursday Taylor Swift announced she would end her record-breaking blank tour in December. Eero's tour. Eero's is close enough. After weeks of being terrorized by a 12 foot crocodile officials in an Australian town captured it and then blanked.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Ate it? Yes they did. Had a big party for the town. The police say the crocodile was quote, prepared for the feast in the traditional manner, wrapping the pieces of banana leaves, cooking it on a barbecue, and eating it right in front of all the other crocodiles to make sure they got the message. Bill, how did Alonzo do in our quiz?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Very well. Six right. Twelve more points. Fourteen put you in the lead. All right. So, that means, Paula, you are up next. Please fill in the blank. On Tuesday, a jury found blank guilty on all three counts of felony gun charges. Hunter Biden. Right. On Monday, an FDA panel endorsed Eli Lilly's early stage drug for blank. The new COVID variant?
Starting point is 00:45:14 No, Alzheimer's. This week, several employees of SpaceX sued the company and its CEO blank for gender discrimination and sexual harassment. Elon Musk. Right. Following days of torrential rain, Governor Ron DeSantis declared a state of emergency in blank. Florida. this week a pedestrian in Texas was struck by a police car so the officers
Starting point is 00:45:30 got out and blanked. No, I guess this is good news. They gave her a ticket for jaywalking. According to a new study, having previous blank infections may help protect from certain colds. Having previous COVID infections? Yes. On Tuesday, fans were shocked when WNBA star blank was excluded from the US Olympic team's roster. Caitlin Clark. Right. This week, scientists think they've discovered the reason orcas are sinking boats off the coast of Spain.
Starting point is 00:45:57 It's because they are blank. Looking for Supreme Court justices. No. Well, that is a good bet. You can find one. Look at the yachts. No. Well, that is a good bet. You can find one. Look at the yachts. No, because they're bored. Essentially, scientists think that the reason orcas
Starting point is 00:46:11 are bonking into boats and sinking them is because they're all just a bunch of bored, teenaged orcas. Now scientists are suggesting a better way to keep teen orcas entertained. Introduce them to drugs. Bill, how did Paula do in our quiz? Five right, 10 more points, 12 means she's trailing Alonzo
Starting point is 00:46:31 by 12. All right, how many then does Helen need to win? Five to die, six to win. Here we go, Helen. This is for the game. On Thursday, the Supreme Court rejected an attempt to restrict the blank pill. Abortion pill. Yes, for the first time On Thursday, the Supreme Court rejected an attempt to restrict the blank pill. Abortion pill.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yes, for the first time since his conviction, blank met with GOP lawmakers in Washington. Trump. Yes, this week the UN Security Council adopted a resolution calling for a permanent ceasefire in blank. Gaza. Right, on Tuesday, the White House proposed a plan to ban blank debt from appearing on credit reports. Medical debt.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yes, medical debt. This week, a school board in Florida voted to ban a children's book called blank. The book ban, the child's book ban book. You are exactly right it was called ban this book and it's for children about book banning. On Wednesday shipwrecked divers found the wreckage of Polar Explorer Blank's last ship. Oh, the guy who went to Antarctica. Yes, but his name would be? The guy who had to eat the dogs.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You know a lot about him, but his name? It's Shackleton. On Monday, Jin, a member of the K-pop group Blank, completed his mandatory military service. Oh, BTS? Yes, a Vermont state representative is in trouble after being caught on camera blanking on multiple occasions. Caught on camera lap dancing to Fleet Foxes. No, nothing that bad.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Pouring cups of water into another representative's tote bag. Representative Jim Carrol was confused. Every time he got to the office, hung his tote bag in the hook outside his office, went in, came out, he found it soaking wet. What's going on? So he put up a camera and on two different occasions they found this other lawmaker wet bagging him. Just walking up, pouring water into his tote bag, walking away. So did I just invent the term wet backing? Yes we did. That is so
Starting point is 00:48:26 diabolical. Isn't it awful? It's awful. That's someone who would write short on a text. I don't think it's that bad. Bill, did Helen do well enough to win? She had six right, 12 more points with the other points she's accumulated she has 16 and the win. Yeah, Heron Hong everybody! Taking it home! In just a minute we're gonna ask our panelists to predict now that he's been kicked out of Nathan's hot dog eating contest what will be Joey Chestnut's next career move. Wait, wait, don't tell me,
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