WAR MODE - Relentless

Episode Date: April 3, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody, my name is Charles Strange. My son was Michael Strange, Philadelphia Guy. Can you hear me now? All right. My son was Michael Strange. He was part of the Elite Navy Seal team. He was killed August 6, 2011. And extortion 17. And what I'm asking is for everybody to stand behind us. My son fought for this country and we need support for extortion 17. 22 seal team six guys, eight national guards. They had eight Afghan National Army guys on there, and they don't know their names.
Starting point is 00:00:48 You think these guys, the most elite team in the world, would just fly with anybody? There was no eye in the sky watching this helicopter to go into the Tandine Valley, not to give me no answers. Nobody to be held accountable for the biggest loss in the Afghan war. Joe Biden, down in Delaware, with a half a load on, announced, announced to everybody in the world who killed Bin Laden. From that day, he put a mark on my son's back.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And nobody does nothing here in this country? Come on. We all have to stand together. We all got to fight to fight. You know, this is America. You know, this is what my son's fought for, for our freedom, for our constitution. Somebody's got to be held accountable. Somebody's got to answer for this. You know? They gave me a book.
Starting point is 00:01:42 They gave me a book with no ink in it. I was asking questions. They said, Mr. Strange, it's in the book. It's in the book. It's in the book. They give me this book. And you can't read it. There's no ink. They told me they couldn't find the black box. You gotta be kidding me. You gotta be kidding me. You gotta be kidding me. 30 of our sons got killed. I want some answers. A lot of the other families are standing up. We need some answers with this. What's going on with all these leaks with our government? You know, everything that's going on here in this country. God bless you all, thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:14 All right. You can introduce yourself because we never did. We always mess this part up. So introduce yourself and. Well, thank you for having tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha the the the the than than that that that that that, that, that, to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, I, thi, the.. theat. theat. theateateat. theateateateat.. theateateateateateateat. theat. war mode. My name's Charles Strange. I'm the gold star father of petty officer first class Michael Strange killed in action August 6th 2011 along with 29 other brave Americans August 6th 2011 was the biggest loss of life in the Iraq and Afghan war. It was the biggest loss of life in the history of America 22 guys from Dev Group Navy Special Warfare. Me and my wife and other Gold Star families been asking questions about what happened. 93 days after the Bin Laden raid. So we feel that there's so many unanswered questions.
Starting point is 00:03:05 We've been fighting Washington, D.C., the government, and the senators, and the congressmen, and asking questions about what happened. The briefing, August 6th, you know, you know, you lose, bury your child, you lose your mind, and you're not supposed to bury your children and it was it was not the guys that knocked on the door to restream three men from the military and they told us they didn't know what happened yeah that you said they put they like bring young guns to you and just say like they don't know they can't answer any questions and they're out right they're called Kako's casualty
Starting point is 00:03:40 assistance and they never knocked on the door before. Really? Yes. Oh they were nubes. Everybody gets nubes. Okay. Yeah. Everybody gets a new person. I would say 95% of the time it's somebody that never knocked on the door. From what we know, talking to at least a thousand Gold Star families, we're at the 10 years. So what what, like, what like upbringing wise, what was Michael's upbringing with growing up in Philly and you guys like what were you guys like growing up? We grew up in, Michael grew up in Wistonoming, Mayfair section of Philadelphia. Early age, Michael was a hustler, he delivered newspapers, seventh and eighth grade, make that money. He went to St. Bart's Catholic school on Harvest Avenue
Starting point is 00:04:29 Always tried to stay fit You know the neighborhood we lived in row homes in Philadelphia, you know to be 40 kids out there playing football He played for baseball to Mayfair Shamrocks He played football for Wisnoonoming Pound football. He was determined at an early age, whatever he put his mind to. Did you know he was like a genius? We knew and he went to public school, he went to Lawton. He went to Lawton for four years on Banner Street in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And they picked it up there To go to get them tested and They took us down the masterman in Philadelphia, which is one of the in the country and They mentioned him going to masterman, but it was in Center City, Philadelphia and and a bus or train and everything else. And he didn't want to go. He went to stay with his buddies, you know, in the neighborhood that he grew up with, you
Starting point is 00:05:29 know, who are still friends and, you know, I think that says a lot about Michael. Yeah, I listen to a podcast with you where you're talking about the funeral, like 50 dudes rolled up and the like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the they.. And, they. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the they. the the the the that many dudes think that this is my best boy. You know what I mean? Yeah, he had that charm. He always for the underdog. You know, and the one kid, Rob, I always talk about Rob. Rob was the glasses, skinny kid and some other kids used to pick on them, outside of North Catholic, at the Eury and Taurus they are waiting waiting, and waiting, th and thia, and thia, and thia, and thia, to to have, and thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, to have, thin, to have, thin, thin, to have, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, thin, thinks, thinks, that, that, th pick at them, pick on them at outside of North Catholic, Adirian Taurus, they are waiting for the bus and take his school bag and
Starting point is 00:06:08 take his baseball cap and throw it. And Michael said that's enough for that. Michael ripped off his jacket and anybody mess with Rob, they're gonna mess with me. Damn, dude. And Michael was like a wiry skinny guy. And nobody messed with Rob no more. Yeah. And then Rob said to me I'm gonna start crying. He said he took me on senior vacation with him to Cancun. And uh and that you could tell you know the way the guy Rob lit up and all that. And I go, did Michael get naked? He goes, yeah, how do you know?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Michael like Jamieson is getting naked naked you know and we almost got locked up I said oh god I didn't need to hear that Rob you know what I mean like come to man and but you know and that's what he did you know always looked out we're in a bar you know the one girl is sitting by herself nobody he would grab her by the hand track her up in the metal and do all the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I I I I I I I I I I was I was I was I was I was they. they. they. I was always always always always the the tttttttoy. they. I was they. I was they. I was always always. I was always. I was always. I was always. I was always. the the, you know, the one girl is sitting by herself, nobody, he would grab her by the hand, drag her up in the metal, and do all kinds of crazy dancing with her, and yeah, you always, you know, people reached his hand out and help others and make other people feel comfortable and I was part of Michael's charm. Yeah, and then you were saying your family, like your, was it your dad was a police officer or grandpa My father was a police officer in Philadelphia
Starting point is 00:07:29 Walk the beat on Columbia Avenue locked up the number writers and all that and then he would walk the older black people home from the state store Yeah, nobody was still their liquor. Yeah, and then stop and get a little Dad riding the softball games and the number writers and things like that and then my grandfather was? Yeah, the? Yeah, the? Yeah, the the the the the the the their? Yeah, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their police., their their their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their police. their. their. their... their... their...... Yeah.. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah. Yeah. like that. And then my grandfather was Captain Robert Alexander Strange, the first motor bandit. My grandfather, yeah, he made some big bust. His big claim to fame was he locked up the aspirin bandit. Really? Back in the 40s. The guy would walk into corner drugstores, right? They didn't have right aid and all that. And he'd ask for aspirin. And then when the guy would go to get the aspirin, he pulled out his gun and say, give me all the money. And he robbed like 19 pharmacies around Fishtown, Port Richmond, North East, you know? And my grandfather and another gentleman ended up tracking out different pharmacies and
Starting point is 00:08:27 then found them and locked them up. And then they gave him $1,000 each back then and another bonus. And yeah, that was one of the grandpops big bust. And if you're going to Harley Davison's and, um, Bucks County, on the second floor is a giant wall picture of about 200 Philadelphia police sitting on motorcycles. Yeah. He's the one standing in the middle. Yeah. Long line of heroes.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yes. So what made him want to go into like the Navy or was he like I'm going to, was this just like an in and out thing or what did he want to do it? Well, why was a senior in North, he didn't want to go to college? I feel that. He fell asleep during the SATs. Because he's hung over. One of my niece's friends was sent, yeah, this kid Mike Strange, he slept doing the whole SAT test.
Starting point is 00:09:33 He knew he was going in, he talked to me about it. I said, no, Mike, you're not going into the military. There's a war going on. What year was that? Oh four? Okay. And, uh, he said he said dad I joined the Navy and I said all right, all right gave me that a boy, paddle in the back. I'll never forget you know the day they came to get him on Algart Street. There was you know 50, 60 of his buddies and friends and neighbors and the recruiter was there and uh, there's a picture of that in the book. And he was like, oh, here we go. And the guy took him up to Fort Dix and then he went over to Chicago for boot camp.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Flew out to boot camp and, uh, you know, he took off from Mary, from Mary, went to Pensacola Florida. And, um, he was a a the crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt crypt, he took off from Mary. From Mary, went to Pensacola, Florida, and he was a cryptologist. He was a code breaker. Did he test into that or like how did he get involved with doing the cryptology? Yeah, his test for getting into the Navy, scored high. Okay, he stayed awake for that one. He stayed away for that one. Yeah, he stayed awake for that one. Yeah, he stayed away. He the the th for th for that. that. He the the that. He th for that one. He stayed awake for that one? He stayed away for that one.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, yeah. He stayed awake for that. And so with Crypto, you don't take no pen papers, there's no chalkboard in the room. What? Yeah, it's all memory. That's wild, dude. Yeah. What did he explain?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Like what was the test? Now, he didn't go into detail. So you're there for two weeks. No paperwork, no books, no chalkboard. The guy just talks. And then they told him, whoever finishes first in the test, gets to pick to go anywhere you want in the Navy. Yeah. So Michael wanted to be in Virginia or somewhere in Maryland, you know, so he can come home on the weekends, see his family and his buddies.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And he called me up and he says, Dad, they lied to me. I said, well, I'm thinking, I knew it, I knew it. I knew it. They better not be sending them over there. And I said, what happened? He said, I finished first in the test and I wanted to go to Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia to Virginia, to Virginia, to to to Virginia, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tod, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, tha, dad, tha, they's, dad, dad, dad, dad on the weekends and they're sending me to Hawaii. I said, Mike, you're going to Hawaii, man, I know, but I thought I was going to be here and da da da da. And he got to Hawaii, he calls me and the second day he says, Dad.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah, it's the shit. It's like, he said, God said, this is paradise dad and he really took off in Hawaii. He rose through the ranks. He became an E6 in less than four years, which is like unheard of. He became a team leader with the cryptos and some other people in the military. I guess his third year he calls me up and he said, dad, the Navy SEALs been picking me up at my house and we've been doing training and running dad. He says, up three floors, down three floors, up three floors, down three floors.
Starting point is 00:12:41 To the ocean, swim to the buoy, come back, back out to the buoy come back back out to the buoy and he goes finally the guy's phone rang dad he said we take a break and we go into the gym he said dad everybody was wearing black I was wearing blow he goes they were listening to head banging music they're doing Brazilian Jigitsu and lifting weights and that da da da da and he goes And then they all surrounded me and They wanted me to go to dev group and in Virginia dad so cool and I said I don't want to do 30 years. He goes I talked to a couple of these men and
Starting point is 00:13:29 They said look you can do 12. You can do 14, you can do 10, but you know, he said, what do you think? I said, Mike, you said four and you're going to get out. You know what I mean? Now you got the clearance, you got that, you know. And he talked about nursing and different things he would get into in life. And so he took it and he was 21 years old and he bought a, they gave him a lot of money. He bought almost a $300,000 single home in Virginia Beach by, which was at one point, you know, a secret base. Yeah. And he had a beeper. And he had to be like 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:14:04 from the secret base and because people were trying to kill us here in America. Yeah. And we went. So he uh. Yeah, well, I was why he was in Hawaii and the training and all. There was a. He'd walk into a, you know, this office where. he. Uh, you know, this. Uh, the. the they. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the the the people. the the the the people. the people. the people the people the the people the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the people the the people. the people. the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the. the was in Hawaii and the training and all. There was a, he'd walk into, you know, this office where he did do his crypto stuff and everything and there's some three and four star admirals and generals. He said good morning and they would just shake their head out him, not talk to him. Yeah. You know, you're just a sailor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had this thing that, between between between between between between between between between between between between between between between between between between between between the competition that, between the competition that, between, between the competition that, thing that between competition between the Marines, Army, Navy, it was like a triathlon. And nobody beat the record in 20 years and Michael beat the record.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It was, it was like an eight mile run. You jump into a pool, 400 meters swim, then you go through an obstacle course, and then you do something else, and Michael beat the time by a minute and 36 seconds. What? That's a lot. And you didn't have his name up in Hawaii there. And so the next day he walks into the office and the three and four star eyebrows go, Michael, take a day off, you want a cigar?
Starting point is 00:15:32 You don't have to come in. What are you doing today? They were so happy, yeah, yeah. They, yeah. There you. The one would ignore him was the one keeping the record. Oh, okay. I got you. So he, yeah, so he was really taking off in the Navy. He loved it. You know, you got some good friends, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:51 Pat Mudge, he still stays in toucest with us for the other guys. Not many. And that's when, and he was 21, and then that's when he went to Virginia Beach to, bought the home and joined Seal Team 6, the Gold Squad, Dev Group. He was not a seal, he didn't go through buds and all that, but then he had to go through another training to make it to 6. To make it to Seal Team 6, you know, you hear a lot of these, you know, God bless everybody, the se, but less than 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th-a, th-s, th-s, thi, he thi, he was thi, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he........... He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he.... He, he, he. He, he. He, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thee. th. thi. the. the. th Navy SEALs make it to six. There's like Red Squadron, Gold Squadron, I can't remember the other one.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Then they got like a new black one, but it's all the elites. Right. Like this is the top tier. Like he's our best from Philadelphia. He's got to's the best dude. Now, like, what are you... Twice that he was the best that in the world. In crypto. Yeah. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:16:54 What does cryptology entail though? Like, what's the whole scope of like what he was doing? Well cryptology goes all way back to the Germans with the, what was the name?? the machine? the machine? What the machine? What the machine? What the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine the machine? the machine? the machine? the machine? the machine? the machine? the the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the machine? the machine? the machine? the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the machine? What's the the the the machine? What's the the the the the the the goes all way back to the Germans with the what was the name in the machine the yeah deciphered different movie about it yeah I'll get it so they the turning no win talkers he got an award for that right yeah Michael received the National Intelligence Medal of Valor, only 17 ever been given out in the history of America since World War II and the Wind Talkers. Yeah. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:17:33 His name is in six floors down in the NSI. Damn. So cryptology, they would, you know, top of the line America with the listening devices and all that. I mean, we we tapped the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, top of the line, America with the listening devices and all that. I mean, we tapped the head of Germany, what's her names? You know, we went into her and, you know, listening devices we have. So he would be with the gold squadron, sealed team six, the gold squadron and different things, and he would listen for where they were going to do harm.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And this was from Hawaii into the Middle East. Into the Middle East, yeah. That's insane. This is it. In the book, the cool part in your book, relentless, is when he's talking about how like he would listen, and then he would say, the prayer, and then he would be like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they....... they. they. they. they. th. th. th. thinks, thee, thee, th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th......................................................................................................................................................... prayer or he'd hear the motorcycles. Yeah. And then he would be like, oh yeah, I got these squirters. Like here it is. Like that was a cool part.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah. I mean, like, seems like he got pumped on what he was able to do. And then that's some of the Philly stuff, you know what I mean? Yeah, Michael was. It's very gifted with the code breaking, listening. And that's some of the Philly stuff, you know what I mean? Where we come from, you know what I mean? Picking up on what's going, you don't walk down the dark alley with no lights, right? You know, you go in one door or a bar you make sure somebody's not at the other end of the door and Michael knew, you know, so he picked up cryptology code breaking and he did some amazing things.
Starting point is 00:19:07 He learned other languages. He picked up on Arabic, Pashtun, different languages from them, just by the logistics and listening and listening over and over. I mean it wasn't like a one-day thing, you know. And he loved what he did you know cryptology code breaking and the physical condition Michael was in he was like 3% body fat yeah I saw that that's insane that's a specimen of a human one day he would he would he would he would run he would go down to Virginia to his home down there. And he would go in the morning and say he'd be wearing khakis in the dress shirt. And then he'd come back home and he'd be wearing something different. I said, Mike, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:19:57 And he's like, oh, I stopped at the gym. And the next day, and he'd be always changing his clothes. And Michael's favorite place to eat was P.F Changs. And we're, he he he he he he he he he he he he, he he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he he, he would the the he, he would the their, he would their, he would to to to to to to to to to to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their, and he would would would their their their their their their to the to th to the, he would would to to to to to to to the the to to the the to to to the to the to to th, and he'd be always changing his clothes. And I'm like, what? And Michael's favorite place to eat was P.F. Chang's. And we're at the restaurant, and I was always try, you know, you worry about your children, and no matter how old they are, and I'll try to get information out of him. And he said to me, dad, because that's what you think. And that's how they would give them lie detector test every three months. Yeah, this shit is fucking why. Yeah. You know, like, they would give him a lie detector test.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And then the first question is, when was last time you lied? Yeah. This is a sigh out. Yeah, that's insane. Oh yeah. The amazing thing about these guys is... Hold on, you know, Oh yeah, here, you can just talk about this one. It's spinning the mind. The amazing thing about these men are, you know, they were ripped. But they always wore baggy shirts and khakis,
Starting point is 00:20:57 like you would never think that they were who they were. Yeah, serving silence be all secret. Right, very humble, very, just, you know, just everyday guys who did jobs that we have no idea. You know, we can't even fathom the stuff that they've done. It's crazy. So, this was, when was you're talking to the, um, when were you talking about PF Changs? Was this before or after like the, like the, they were, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, were talking to the, when were you talking about P.F. Changs? Was this before or after like the raid? Before, before the raid, everything was before.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So they're following them just like all the time. All the time, dude. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, they should have been questioned into people that were calling the shots. Yeah. And some of the people in Washington, D.C. Yeah, I don't think they're getting a lie detector test. That first question is Nix right off the bat. Those guys wake up line.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you got to look at Afghanistan, right? The country decides to Texas, and we were there for 20 years. Yeah. You know, with the strongest military in the world, with the most powerful listening devices,
Starting point is 00:22:10 techniques we have. Yeah. You know, like there's something wrong. What's coming in? Yeah. You know, I'd like to reach out to all the people all the people all thoo. the, they lost people to overdoses. Oh my God, yeah. The fentanyl and everything else. I live in Kensington. Oh, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, yeah, he's down there. Yeah, I had a halfway house at Kingston. Yeah, that's what, I remember in the book, it was saying you were around the 12-step program. Michael used 'd come down, help me clean up, meet the guys and when he was a senior in high school, you know, you have that talk with him about drinking and staying away from drugs and he said, Dad, I've seen what drugs did to you and your friends. I'll never do drugs. And, uh, you know, helping others, you know, just like what Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior did, you know, who did he go to, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, th, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, th, th, you know, when, thi, thi, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th. You th. You, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you know, thi, thi, you know, just like what Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior did, you know, who did he go to?
Starting point is 00:23:05 He didn't go, you know, when he went into the synagogue there and they had all the gold and everything else and worshiping that and that's no, he flipped the tables bro, you know what I mean, like, hey, you know, and that's how you know he was raised to help others and those are misfortuneing, you don't never know what somebody went through. It's got to be so cool to be that high functioning. You know what I mean? Like he was it must be cool to just have the kid that that's hot, that like that's in your body. Michael's in your body. Yeah, you made one. Just to be that high functioning and walk the thou. the way they can't that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the tho tho tho tho tho the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that that that that that that that that that th that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. tho tho tho to be to be so to be so to be so to be so to be so to be to be to be to be to be to be so to be so to be so to be so to be so thoooooooo? Yeah, grab the mic. The way they compartmentalize it with what they do and then to come home and be like quote-unquote normal with their families. Yeah, right. Out of the men that died, six of them were gemini. Oh, he's way into this dude. And they're very intelligent. Build a scorpion.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. Escorpion. I mean, yeah. You know, so it's, it's, they're just, they're amazing individuals. Yeah, man. And thank God, that we need them special operators. To do the things that nobody else does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:31 With the bin Laden rate, I, from day three, I said it was tip for tat. We'll give you bin Laden and the team. So what was it like leading up to that, like when you get when you were at PF Changs and stuff? This is, like, was he like, up to that like when you get when you're at PF Chainson and stuff this is like was he like over time like kind of seeing what was going on because if you're a cryptologist and you're on these special operations and you're seeing everything that's going on shit starts adding up like a little different look at Edward Snowden yeah yeah so Edward Snowden was in Hawaii so in Hawaii now it's public noticed that under all the pineapple fields is all kinds
Starting point is 00:25:08 of computers and information in Hawaii. That was their secret base until somebody from Washington, D.C. gave up them tapes. Yeah. I know exactly who that was, but uh. And Zuckerberg is out there. Yeah. So, he knew, you know, he would go into the NSA, him and two other gentlemen, and everybody that worked at the NSA on where they were going to go use
Starting point is 00:25:32 these computers and would leave. And then the NSA people would say, you never seen these guys come in here. Really? And Michael knew, from the code breaking cryptology and the computers. He's very well skilled in that too. Yeah. And they would find out different things. Like you know one time he was in Boston. And I said, well, we have family in Boston. Go see and I lean uncle Tom.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You know, they took you snowboarding every year for eight years and your brother and sister. And he said, nah now I can't leave the building. I'm we're not allowed to leave the hotel dad we're doing training. I said I can't leave what do you mean? Where do you eat? We eat right here we don't leave it's a training session and then like he leaves and you hear about three three terrorists getting locked up in Boston? Was it with the Boston bombing now it was the th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th. Yeah the th. Yeah th. Yeah th. they they hea' hea' hea hea' hea' heat's heat's heat's hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' hea' he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he to he to to to they. He's too. He's too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' they Was it with the Boston bombing now? It was some other people that were going to do harm to us there. About four months later, he's in Chicago. I said, what's up? What you doing? Now we're doing training. I said, you're going to go over? Your cousin Maddy lives in by Northwestern there in Chicago. See Maddie. Now we can't leave the hotel. We're not allowed to leave the hotel that. And then, and then, and that. And, and that, and that, and that, and th. And, th. And, the hotel, the hotel, th. th. to, to, to to to their, to to their, to to to to their, to to to their, too, their, their, their, their, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. th. th. th. th. toooooooooooooo. too. too. too. too. th. they. th. their. their. th. th. th. th. that and then all of a sudden you hear five terrorists locked up in Chicago with bomb threats and C4 so that's it was you know people don't even realize like the harm.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. And there's so many illegal and bad people that want to do harm to America. You've seen them burning our flag on television. You don't think they're here. So that's what our military does. You know these young men and women their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their f. their f. their f. their f. their f. their. their. their. their their. their f. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the they're here. So that's what our military does. You know these young men and women That's what they sign up for you know God and country right that especially the kids from out west that believe in that And the recruiting stations too. That's another, you know, They know where to go. There's more recruiting stations out west and in poor neighborhoods than anywhere else. Yeah, I'd love to see the numbers on the recruitment after the whole roll out out out. the the the the the the the the the the th the the th, the the th, the the the the th, the the th, the their the the the the their their their their their their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their. they's their. they's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thee. th. they. their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their 'd love to see the numbers on the recruitment after the whole rollout of Zero Dark 30, Joccos, all this kind of stuff, where kids are like, I want to be that, I want to be that, all these Navy Seals with podcasts, you know what I mean? They branded it. They made it like a thing.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It's a recruiting tool. Yeah, after Michael them died, they made that movie and they mentioned the 30 men after it, the Act of Valor, right? Act of Val, they show the speed boats and the seals and da da da da, da, it's a recruiting thing. And a lot of people come to us and ask, you know, my son's going to join the military, what do you think? I'm like, did he join? They go, yeah, it goes in. I said, well, tell them to do the four years and get out. Other well, you don't, I say go to college or go to a trade school first.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah, trade schools are better. You know, the military's, God bless everybody who serves in the military. You know, you know, our freedom that served. I mean, there's a few people coming in now, you know what I mean, but you know, but the money seems to grab them, they forget where they come from. Yeah. Well, you know, talk about a recruiting tool back when Pat Tillman was killed, his father, they tried to use Pat Tillman as they wanted to do posters.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I remember this, yeah. I talked Michael the the after Michael and the guys were killed and we had the 1,300 pages and we sat on them, we're reading them and we're like, oh my God. Yeah. You know, like we didn't know who to go to, who to trust, you know, we're reading it. And it's all by design. You read in the deep state. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And this is stuff that we weren't supposed to have. That's a thing. So we were told that they were going to ask for that disc back.
Starting point is 00:29:13 OK. So you know, and it took a long time to get it downloaded. But once it's and we were reading it, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, th and we're like, thi. like, oh my God, like this doesn't make any sense. That Taliban were under the trees. Their night vision goggles were working, our guys were. They had machine guns, they had six IEDs around the landing site. How did they know where the guys were going to land? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And do you know that on every mission, Afghan's Afghan National Army, if they say no to the mission, the mission is squashed. In 2011, there was 300 green on blue attacks. And that is when the Afghani guys would just shoot our guys in the back. And I don't know if a lot of people know about that kind of stuff. What are the parents, Greg Buckley, Greg Buckley, her son was in the gym. And did you ever hear of a tea boy? No. What a tea boy is, these Taliban buy these young boys off of the family. Yeah, chill. Yeah. And they use them as sex slaves doing whatever. Yeah. They want them to do. The Taliban, who's supposed to be, you know, somebody that they
Starting point is 00:30:32 can trust, they were on our base. Yeah, yeah. They gave an AK-47 to the teeboy and say, go in the gym and kill as many Americans as you can. And he did. Damn. And Greg Buckley, his son was one. That's th. That's the the th. T the they th. T they th. T th. T th. They th. T, the th. They th. They was thi. They was the thi. They was thi. They were the the the the th. T the the they were the thi. The the thi. The tholies the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they were thi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. T. Yeah. Yeah. T. Yeah. Yeah. T. Yeah. T. T. Yeah. T. T. Yeah. Yeah. did. Damn. And Greg Buckley, his son was one. That's crazy. These things, people don't know these things. You know, Taliban, they hate us. Yeah. They just hate our way of living. Thousands of years they've lived the way that they live. Yeah. Yeah, you're not going to go win hearts and minds. You know what I mean? In the Occupy and all that? I mean, it's all fucked up. When do they send Michael out of the country?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like, was that the first time he was deployed, like, in Afghanistan? Oh, no. Like he was deployed when he was in Hawaii. Okay. Yeah, he was deployed when he was in Hawaii different places Africa Iraq Afghanistan some other countries Here in the United States doing things save Americans many multiple tours. They're not all listed. They're in a different file Yeah, he loved what he did you know and uh to lead up you know, um, to lead up, you know, um, um, um like, um, um like, to lead up, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, the the to, the the the the the to to to their their to their to to their to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the, the, the, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, the what he did, you know, and to lead up, you know, things that are in our book, Relentless, when Bourne's and Noble for $20. He, uh,
Starting point is 00:31:54 he calls me April, about 15th, 16th, uh, he says, Dad, you're not going to hear from me for two weeks, everything's getting shut down. I try getting information out of them. And me and Michael made up a code since PF Changs. Yeah, yeah. I love this one. He said, you know, when we left P.F. Chang's when you don't, you know, ask for trying to get questions about, Mike will find out what happens. He said, Dad, this is what we'll do with, I'll just say, did the Phillies win?
Starting point is 00:32:30 And this is also he can pass a lie detector test. So he doesn't have to lie to you. Right'm like, Mike, come on, what's going on? I ain't gonna hear from you for two weeks? And he goes, well, if something happens, you'll hear about it. And then May 1st, going in to kill Osama, been lying to read. And uh... So you didn't hear anything for two weeks, and that's the next thing on the news. Yes. Yeah, okay. So we put one and one together and then he came home in June and he grabbed me by the bicep as soon as he walked in our living room. And he said,
Starting point is 00:33:12 Dad, you won't believe what the fuck's going on here. Yeah. In this country and he started to pace in their pace and he's like, Dad you won't believe it. I'm like, what? He's shaking his head. What he's talking he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he on. He's he on. He's he on. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's th. He's th. He's thi. thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's shaking his head. And then he started talking about a will. I said, what are he talking about a will for? He's 25. Right. Yeah. And then, you know, I get nuts. Why is he talking about it, well?
Starting point is 00:33:35 And then he says, come on, we go up to the bar and he's telling his friends Kevin, and Danny Clayton and Kevin Stack and his brother and it was June 5th. June 6th was his birthday, his buddy Kevin had a big party for him. They had like six kegs and 30 bottles and a hundred people came and it was a party for the weekend. And me and my wife bought him a big cake and And then we went and grabbed like 10 pizzas. It was right at Welsh and Ashton up there, where Kevin lived. And while we're walking to get the pizzas, he's telling me about his will. I'm gonna leave you this.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm gonna leave mom night. I'm gonna leave chaz da da da da. And it was, I'm like, stop talking about it will Michael what's going on he's like ah dad you wouldn't believe it and uh he's got a sister Carly and she was probably she was eight at the time and she's like come on Michael go in the pool with me going to pool with me and he looks at me I'm like going to pull with your little sister and he took his shirt off he always wore a shirt too big for him. Yeah and he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he t. t. t. tm. took took tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttoda. tttttoda. ttttoda. ttoday tod he took his shirt off. He always wore a shirt too big for him. Yeah. And he took his shirt off and everybody went,
Starting point is 00:34:49 ah, you couldn't wait to take your shirt off. And, uh, same. He, um, that was on a Saturday and then Sunday he came over again, he took to the today, to toooooooo, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, too, and he, and too, and he, and he's, and he's, and he to to told, and then, and he's, and he's, and he's, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, to, to, to, to, to to to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the too, too, too, too, took, too, took, took, the too, too, too, too, too, too, the the. And then he stabbed in Fishtown that name Maggie, told her about the will. He left early too, which he never did. Really? He left at like 11 in the morning. And he usually wouldn't leave him
Starting point is 00:35:13 to like Sunday late after dinner. So something was up in June. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Well, one guy that died with Michael put, the the the the the the that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, Michael put his will in the freezer. One guy put not only his mom down, his grandparents down to Virginia because he lived down that way to where Michael was and talked about a will, you know, so they knew somebody was leaking it.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And the big, you know, people go, somebody from our own government wouldn't kill them. Now, now, now it's been 10 years later, they see what's going on. It's a different world now that we live in back then. Well, it would be hard, it'd be a hard sell back in 2011, 2012, to sell this on people. Right. You know what I mean? We were called conspiracy. Oh yeah, big time. I'm used to it. Yeah. You know, when I said to my sister-in-law,
Starting point is 00:36:07 I said, Mike, I think this is tip or tie. Yeah, pull the mic to your face. She said, Mary, listen, don't say that. People, like, you're one up in the Nudgehouser house. Yeah, because just the way that it happened, you know, oh, the Rangers needed help, the Rangers came out. Yeah, so we're in the Tangier Valley now. That's right, right. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:36:30 So that, just to keep it going, they, now he's back, like so he, the binauette happened, he left early and then now they're back over, what's that, two months later? August, it calls us, uh, it calls us in July. He said, dad, I'm going back over. I'll see you for Thanksgiving. And they and Maggie's. I love you guys. That, that was, and then August 6th, we got a knock on the door by the three casualty officers.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So, uh, and they said they didn't know what was happening and how it happened 30 guys died and it came on the news that it was a rescue mission for the Rangers. That's why they got 30. Yeah, the Rangers asked for a QRF force. Yeah, but the Rangers were ready for X-Bell. They were leaving. They were done. They had eight of the town band caught. And the Rangers actually came out and spoke up on August 7th. And so then the government and the deep state on August 8th, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:37:39 August 8th said they were after Quarry Tahir, a high value target. Okay. That's why they got 38 guys, 30 Americans in the helicopter. And this helicopter is in 1985 Chinook, 1965. 1965, and it's basically a school bus in the sky that goes about 30 miles an hour. The valley has no lights on for some reason. And that, they said in that valley valley normally the whole place was lit up by fires. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, they don't have electricity. They always have a fire pit. Yeah, yeah. Except for that night. That night it was just pitch black when they, so they're all, would they be at Disneyland then or where they were just somewhere over there and They got the call that the Rangers were pinned down on the fire. So, you know. Even though there's Rangers that said we never asked for it,
Starting point is 00:38:28 they were just told gold squadrons coming in there, like, all right, whatever. QRF. And they didn't need no QR. Quick reaction force. Yeah. We were also told that everyone wasy on recognition. Yeah. No identifiable remains only 38 C spines. Well there's all that remained at the site. All these guys are probably Michael's tier of people, right?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah. Like everybody in this is this DevGro. And they're in this giant target going slow in the dark. And they allegedly get hit from an RPG. And what where they tell you guys, these guys are are are are are thgs are thgs are thiiii guys are thi guys are thi guys are thi guys are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging are hanging their their their their their thing th and the what where they tell you guys these guys are hanging fruit or something are drying out crops so so August 6th the worst day of our life 30 Americans die or some that's a big it's said in the book to it's a biggest loss of life in one shot over there okay and in Iraq afghan the biggest loss of life in the history of America, 22 men from Dev.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Group. Yeah. And so in October, we go down for the debriefing by bring him near General Jeffrey Colt. We're in an auditorium, 60 parents. And in the beginning of the telling us what happened, he talked about the pilots, God blessed them. We met their parents. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their He talked about the pilots, God blessed them, we met their parents, for 45 minutes, that they were qualified to fly. Yes, they're gonna hammer this in your head. Yeah, 45 minutes. Okay. And got, Sam Carter did
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Starting point is 00:41:00 and you're hearing about how your son dies, so you go, oh, so you're in a theater, at this point just watching, like, their explanation or debriefing of what happened. Like the speakers in this, it was so loud. Yeah. And there were parents running out of their hysterical. Yeah, this is too much. Oh my God, it was horrible. And then also the thing thing think think think think thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the thi, it was, it was thi, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. th also the thing that really blew my mind before they took off was they always had to have the Afghanis with them.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But at this point, like they just swapped out the guys that were supposed to go because they didn't want to go with seven or eight other guys. Yes. And then like what the fuck is that about? Their name wasn't on the manifest? Yeah. And um, when he told us it was a lucky shot. I stood up. I said, did you say fucking lucky shot? All our sons are dead. What the fuck is wrong with you? And a couple of guys grabbed me. Yeah. And then we started going back. And he's telling us about the lucky shot.
Starting point is 00:41:59 He didn't use the word lucky shot again after I cursed him out. And this is what I'm saying, they're not ready for these kind of parents. No. They were not ready for us. So then I asked him, I said, what happened to the black box, which is really orange? Yeah. And then a theatrical way, he raises his arm and says, a flash flood came and washed it away. And he said, we heard them in the ocean. Right. Your begins are for 30 days. You can find them like 13,000 feet. Yeah, 10 to 13,000 feet in the ocean. I grew up like right down the street from a creek that was bigger.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I saw pictures of this alleged fucking river or whatever. And the creek near my house is bigger than that. So that's debunked. Yeah. So even if there wasn't a black box, there's a recording device. Yeah, there legally has to be some sort of recording voice. That's right. And in our 1,300 pages, it says they brought in extra people to look for the black box.
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Starting point is 00:43:53 of the rules of engagement. Yeah. The rules of engagement really kind of pissed me off, man. Yeah. And for me, I believe it was coming from the White House at this point. It wasn't coming from Virginia Beach or anything else. This call was coming from the White House at this point. It wasn't coming from Virginia Beach or anything else. This call was coming from the White House. And they said that they told him out to fire four of the hearts and minds spill they get, right? And then this jerk off, Admiral Harwood, Hardwood, Hardwood, stands up. He stands up with the 60 parents there and said she couldn't open fire because the hearts and minds.
Starting point is 00:44:29 These people are fucking robots. There may have been innocence inside. So then one of the fathers, I can't say his name, grabbed them outside, grabbed them outside, and then the military guys grabbed the gold star father. How could you say hearts and mine? Yeah, yeah. You know. guys grab the gold star father how could you say hearts of mine went all my son died you know and he was a Hardwood's no good bastard you know he made his way some of them three star and four star abrows in generals look like they never even shot a gun yeah we're never even a slap fight
Starting point is 00:44:57 right yeah and I want to tell you if you google three stars and four star abrals in generals they all have a degree in financing really oh yeah Google them surprising yeah Google their names but that day August 6 2011 14 three star and four star admirals and generals quit Admiral Mcraven who was very you know full self I'm the greatest. All of a sudden he retires. General David Petraeus, or I call him Betrayus, two days, I mean leaves. Coincidence? No. All them admirals and generals, all that month after extortion 17, August 6, 2000, leave the military without, you know, a that, a boy in a parade. Yeah. Put two and two together right there.
Starting point is 00:45:47 They know that the deep state, that Karzai, the contractors that are over there, somebody from the Obama administration, Joe Biden, were involved in killing these 30 men. And at that time period, the deep state was a conspiracy theory, but now it's all over the news. Like at that point, that's just like people think you're crazy if you're talking about some shadowy figure of the government doing stuff that no one knows about. But now it's common knowledge. Right. So when you were in, was that, that's the same time where you were in the theater and they played you audio of the helicopter crash. They actually told th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thold tho tho tho tho tho tho the tho tho that's the the their that's tho. tho tho tho tho-a' that's that's their their their their their their their their their the the the the the their the the their their their their. their their their their. their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. tho. the. theateat. theateat. theateat. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo was doctored audio of the helicopter. They actually told us it was doctored.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Really? And Hollywood in on there? Yeah. Because I kept saying it, Angel down, angel down. Yeah. And you know, the one lady was pregnant. But the, I forget. Vickers.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But, um, yeah, they, because you seen the screens up there, but for the first hour that he was talking, you know, you just hear, listening to them, and then all of a sudden they put these two giant movie screens on they were on both sides. Yeah. And, bob, wob, b-angel down, R-B-G, RB-G, Angel down. Oh, the angel been hit. Yeah. Yeah, oh the angel been hit extortion 17's been hit. Yeah, and you're like What the fuck? Yeah, what was that and? And? And there was two there was extortion 16 which was an empty
Starting point is 00:47:13 Chinook right? And there was another Chinook. What's the point of that? What's the point of that? What's the point of that? Like a decoy water? It was supposed to be the backup? case anything happened. But have you ever heard a Chinook helicopter? No, I don't know anything about this. I see, I work near Boeing, so I hear them sometimes. Yeah. So when we were going against the NSA, we lived on Academy Road. All of a sudden, we were ready to go to court. Every time we went to court against them, all of a sudden, our windows are going,
Starting point is 00:47:46 brrrh. And I'm like, what the hell is that? They would send this genuf over to the whole. Shoehops. Yeah. Oh, my head. I should, you know. I'd start crying.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. So what happened after, like what happens next after you guys leave, like did you just leave there? Did anything else happen after the viewing? So me, my wife and about 12 other parents wanted some answers and we wanted some questions. And then two Navy Jags came up to me and they said, Mr. Strange, they said it don't matter what helicopter they were in. Because I said, why weren't they in a black hole? Yeah. You know, and it moves. And they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, so, they, so, they, they, so, so, th. So, th. So, so, th. So, th. So, so, th. So, th. So, th. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. So, so, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, tha. So, tha. So, me, me, me, me, me, tha. So, me, me, tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, the. Strange, they said, it don't matter what helicopter they were in. Because I said, why weren't they in a blackhawk? Yeah. You know, the moves. And they said, because the RPG hit the rotary.
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Starting point is 00:49:08 nothing, if it was an accident, you'd say it's a fucking accident. But if you're gonna sit there and lie, immediately your sensor is gonna go off and be like, what the fuck actually happened. Right. And we have the proof. Yeah, so at the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, if, if, if, if, if, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if it, if it, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If, if th. If, if th. If, if the, if th. If the, if it's, if it's, if it's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. If it was, if it was look in the folder. We go back and we're at our home and I guess a couple, because you're still in shock, you know, and you're nuts and you think your son's in a box in Arlington and I would go crazy and cry and you know and go you gotta be, I gotta go to a cemetery to see my son. And the things you go through in your brain is, it's, feelings, emotions, you know, you just start anger,
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Starting point is 00:51:06 Go ahead. Yeah, just talk, yeah, you can talk into it. I figured it out. You know, every time it was a sequence. So every time you did the sequence, it would come with less blocks, less, less block. And then finally, you could read the words. And that's the 1,3600, 36, 36, 36, the 13, the 13, the 13, the 13, the 13, the 13, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the. the. the. the. to, to, to, the, to, the thooooo. the the. the. thoo. the, the, th words. And that's the 1,300 pages. That's the 1,364 pages. And I'm like, holy shit, we have to, we have to print this out because I unbeknownst to us that it was encrypted with a virus, that desk. Yeah. Sent all of our information
Starting point is 00:51:38 to a satellite. Um, so we print it out. And it keeps printing. We got to run to the store, get more ink, you know, get pot, like we bought a box of paper, get everything, and it was just crazy. It was a couple, it was a month later, I'm on the computer, did it, all of a sudden, it froze. And there's my picture. And I'm looking, I'm like, the, I'm on the computer, did it, all of a sudden it froze and there's my picture and I'm looking, I'm like, you're looking, I'm like that's a real-time picture. I'm like, oh tomorrow. She started screaming, yeah, FBI 10 years in prison. I'm like what the hell, they totally destroyed our computer. Yeah, no. So, I didn't know, I couldn't get it off.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I tried everything, could not. He met a guy, he went to a program, Betts Journey Home. And he made Dave Stiler. And Dave is like, you know, has like 500 and some certifications with computers. He's a whiz he's also a vet and so he tries to do it from you know Maryland is where he lives can't do anything we drive a couple hours down to Maryland he opens up the the tower and takes it and he's like, holy shit. The virus you have in here, I've never seen it's not even out yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It took him like five or six hours to even get it out of there. And he said, I don't even think it's completely out. I said, but how did they take my picture? He said, they pinged it. Yeah. This is encrypted with the virus. And I'm like, holy shit, you know, we didn't know about that. Yeah. You know, this is stuff that we're being introduced to. And since Michael being in crypto did work with the NSA. The NSA wanted to know if, you know, Michael told us anything. Yeah, right. And, uh, after Michael died, did all the parents get it?
Starting point is 00:53:50 All the people got the dist, but nobody figured out how to download it. My wife wrote a letter to Billy and Karen Vaughan, how to do it and mailed him a letter. Michael reaching out from the Great Beyond. Yeah. So, well, you talk about that. But I do want to say that you know with them spying on us, the NSA and the Deep State, we call Channel 3, 6 and 10 from Philadelphia and we were on all the news stations and let everybody know we weren't suicide or nothing. This is what they do to families, the Gold Star families. And the 36 and 10, all their camera guys came in. Can I look at your computer? You know, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their ss. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their sss. their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. their th. their their their their their their their their their camera guys came in can I look at your computer? You know they're their IT guy They go oh my god
Starting point is 00:54:28 Yeah, you know, there's no camera on our on our computer. They got they get you what any way they want to and then with our phone. It was coming zero zero zero zero zero tex message. Wait a picture of you and there's no camera on the on the computer right there. That's why I was freaking out? the th. the the the the th. the the the th. the the the th. the th. the th. the the th. th. th. the the th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. their. their. their. their. th. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the was that's wild yeah yeah oh that's why I was freaking out I'm like what the hell is this so they can like mirror the screen exactly yeah shit and then with the text messages I call Verizon up I said I keep getting zero zero zero on my phone zero zero one he goes you don't know who that is I said no who is it, who is it? He goes, big brother, click, he hung up. So then we got a hold of Larry Klayman, who started judicial watch. Larry Klayman's a lawyer, the only lawyer to sue is sitting president, suit Bill Clinton and won.
Starting point is 00:55:18 They made a TV show about Larry Klayman, the West Wing. He's Larry's from Philadelphia, up in Morrowlain. His. His. He's, his his. He's, his his. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the West Wing, he's Larry Claypool. Larry's from Philadelphia, up in Moreland. His father owned the Dietz and Watson on State Road before he became, yeah it sold it to that. But Larry's a bulldog, he's a fighter. Larry tried getting his answers, try getting us a congressional hearing. He went to court with us, we went against the NSA. 2013 in Washington, D.C. in Superior Court, the third highest court in the country. We had Judge Leon, Obama and the NSA with their 14 lawyers, their head lawyer was Mr. Gilligan,
Starting point is 00:55:56 who also was under the Bush administration. So we're in the courtroom in D.C. And Edward Snowden's lawyer showed up, talked to him a little bit, and the NSA stood up, Mr. Gilgin said, we do not spy on the American citizens, Mr. Strange. Michael Strange, helped save America, da da da, da, how great he was, the parents are just grieving. And you have hard evidence that they are. So Larry stands up and holds the newspaper from the Washington are just grieving. You have hard evidence that they are. So Larry stands up and holds the newspaper from the Washington Post and says,
Starting point is 00:56:30 12 employees from the NSA fired for spying on their spouse. And Judge Leon slammed that gavel down. He said, tell me one time that you saved an American life by spying on Americans. Yeah. And then they started looking through their books and he made him sweat for 10 minutes. And uh, we don't have nothing. And you guys beat the NSA. We beat the NSA. Then we went to the second highest court in the country with three judges, superior court. The next one's the Supreme Court, right? We wanted to go to the Supreme Court. Yeah. And with the three judges, and we won that case.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And then President Obama, before he went on vacation in December 2013, talked about us on national television. He talked about this, that, and he goes, and with the NSA, what's going on, the gold star family. We're looking very deep into that. very deep into that and it's also what he whispered in your ear when you guys when we're on the tarm back after that this is all after this is after you shook him like a while he changed the wall he changed the walls that it was okay yeah just by tell that story when you just be like when you talk
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Starting point is 00:58:26 and he's face to face with me. He says Michael changed the way America lived. Michael was the best in the and I grabbed Obama by the shoulders. I said I don't need to know about my son. I need to know what happened and I shook him pretty good like a Bible head and uh, the Secret Service guys grabbed me. they took me hesitant for them. Yeah they grabbed me right away I think that I think the Secret Service guys want me to punch him in the head. I mean his nickname
Starting point is 00:58:53 was Renegade. Yeah. They didn't like him. And then they took me outside bottle to their calm down and I come back in and then Leon the snake Panetta comes up to me and he says Mr. Strange Michael was da da da da da and he goes I'm gonna ask the same questions you asked I said you're gonna ask the same questions as me yeah I said I'm a I'm a labor in the Philadelphia you're the Secretary of Defense what the fuck is wrong with you and then a couple of the other dads say yo this and that and then these guys took took took took took took guys took took took the the th th th the th the the th. the th. th. the th. th. I the the th. I the they. I they. I they. I'm their. I'm they. I their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. S. the other dads saying, yo this and that and then these guys took me outside again. And that was the beginning of when we get invited, we don't get invited to any more events by the Navy Seal Foundation.
Starting point is 00:59:33 At what point did they separate, I don't know if it was, they separated you guys when you all had the meeting at the hotel suite. When was that? That was before we went into the movie the movie. When was that? That was before we went into the movie theater to hear General Cull and my wife puts out a note at the front desk, anybody from extortion 17 want to meet in the lobby at 7 p.m. And then I asked the hotel for a conference room and they knew what was going on. They said, oh absolutely. And we go into the conference room and the gold star, even though it was two months after our sons died, said well in the beginning we heard they hit a mountain.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We heard the helicopter failed and then we heard all different stories. But then the next morning they pick us up in a bus to go to the theater to hear General Colts, horse and pony show. As we're walking in there, a guy walks up to us and says, man, that was nice, you got all the parents together last night, Mr. and Mr. Strange. And that was the beginning. And then after me asking about the black box and Lucky Shot and all that stuff. You're a problem. We had two guys on each of us at all times. And then what they started to do was separate me and Charlie from everybody else. Yeah. They put all the parents on like Greyhound
Starting point is 01:00:50 buses. Oh Mr. Mr. Strange, you come on with us. That's a nice tactic because then you guys don't build an emotional bomb with the rest of the parents. Right. Or so they thought yeah that they wanted to because we were, you know the loud mouths. So the SUV the the the the SUV. T the the the the they they they they they they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. They were. They were. you know, the loudmouths. So the SUV was completely blacked out. There was four guys. So he says to the one dad, yeah, get the license plate in case we don't come back. I said, why? It's not real. I said, these guys probably don't even have fingerprints. Yeah. And they looked at me with this look on me, you know. So that was the way they did it. Every single memorial, they would separate us from everybody else, thinking, you know, it would do something, you know. Right, right, to try to shut us up to intimidate us. Come on, man, we're from the streets of Philly.
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Starting point is 01:02:34 J.P. Morgan was there. All the big stocks. All the cool guys. They put me in mayor with the J.P. Morgan and they wanted to hear Michael's stories. Excuse me. And then when you start running the questions all of a sudden, they're like, get rid of the strangers, they got to go. Don't let them start talking. So, uh, then a month, four months after our son died, they bring us down to Virginia Beach, just
Starting point is 01:03:07 a team, the devil group people, and we're at the convention center. And it's packed. It's a memorial. And they had us walk down into the convention center. The first two people would walk and they had pictures of all your son and the guy that was married and playing baseball with his kid. And then the next people went and they showed him hunting with his son. And then me and Mary walk and they show Michael surfing in Hawaii, Michael rock climbing, Michael with his brother and sister and they'd go in. So then we're in there and what did they do?
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Starting point is 01:04:35 And this is before after the all time. Yeah, that's something that I would like to talk about is definitely like from watching the movie that I watched the Fallen Angel movie it seems like Michael himself is the key to most of this he fell out of the Chinook and he was alive for 10 minutes and if they could have done a proper autopsy on him and checked the bullets they would have seen that there was too many rounds and they weren't what do they call them? Cookoff rounds yeah it weren't cookoff rounds and it's like he himself and like he's a big part of this. You know what I mean? I have the autopsy pictures when we requested the autopsy report, a disc was in there and I'm like with access. A whistleblower gave us a disc from Dover airport. I pop it into the computer and I'm like, the the, and it, and the, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there was, there was, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there was like, there, there, there was like in there. And I'm like, what the heck is? A whistleblower gave us a disc from Dover Airport. I pop it into the computer and I'm like, yeah, you
Starting point is 01:05:30 need to go. Yeah, right. And I'm looking and I could see right here was a bullet. Now they didn't do the back of him. They wouldn't show, you know, they usually show the front of, but they showed, they showed everything. You could see the hair the hair on Michael the hair on Michael the hair on Michael the hair on Michael the hair on Michael the hair on Michael the hair on Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael Michael, they usually show the front, but they showed, they showed everything. You could see the hair on Michael's arms, that's how not burnt he was. He wasn't burnt at all. His right ankle was pretty messed up, but that was it. And they told you they were all burnt beyond recognition.
Starting point is 01:06:01 That was all over the world. Everyone's burned beyond recognition. You know, cremated. Yeah, cremated the remains. So they cremated it, right, Gall? Yeah. And then they turn around and in Dover, in Dover, why is they're bringing the bodies, the caskets in? All the sudden, there's a different flag. They And Caitlin, our daughter, says, what's that? And Charlie says, that's the Afghan flag. She's like, what the fuck are they doing here? Real loud, I'm like, Kate, calm down. Yeah, what were they doing at Dover?
Starting point is 01:06:38 You tell me. Because the Muslims are supposed to be buried within 24 to 48 hours of dying. They need to be wrapped and washed. And here they're telling some of the parents, well, you know, maybe some of the Afghan remains might be in with your son. We're not sure. Like, you talk about science. Yeah, this is real disrespectful, yeah. You tell me, why, why the hell would they bring them back here? I mean, that's power, that press conference speech that you gave, that's like the powerful
Starting point is 01:07:12 thing when you're like, my son didn't want to be cremated or what the fucks? Yeah, that was, this were quiet when they, what they will. Yeah, Irish. Pentagon spokesman Marine Colonel David Latman told reporters there were no identifiable remains of these servicemen bold-faced lie. Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain Jane Campbell said in a statement because of the remains are on the on the identifiable. At this point no, next of kin are not in the position to grant approval for media access to dignified transfer. You're reading from the 1,300 pages you got off the desk.
Starting point is 01:07:54 This was in every newspaper in the country and some other countries that statement right there. There were two Pentagon spokespersons that said that. So no, that's not from the 1,300. That was in the paper newspapers. Right, right. But then you know so who made that decision to cremate Michael? Yeah. Who took that upon themselves to lie? You know they thought once again. So I called him up and asked him I said why did you cremate my son? And they said well the fuselage and da da da da da da da. and the fire and the fire and the fire and the fire and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they're their, their they they they they was, they was, they was they was, they was their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. theirthey said well the fuselage and that and the fire was so bad I said I got pictures of him he wasn't burned at all and then of course they said where did
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Starting point is 01:09:33 And, you know, these 1300 pages, you know, in my words, the C. H.H. 47 crew, crew, the crew, the crew, the crew, the crew, the crew, their crew, the The crew had no idea what their standard operation procedures was that it relates to tactical aviation command. They never flew these kinds of missions, QRF or an IRF, before fault. That means the superiors need to be held accountable. I don't think this was a coincidence. It's more like by design What was extortion 17s like coming in that night and then general cold asking the 13th? Well, it was dark. It was really hard to see we couldn't even find extortion 17. So 93 days prior some of these men that were part of the Bin Laden raid. Not just Michael there was other men that were part of bin Laden raid even though. I know. I know a couple. A couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people a couple of people people a couple of a couple of a couple of a couple of a couple of a couple of a couple the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tof of tttou. 17 17 17th of tttttou. 17 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17th. 17. 17th of these men that were part of the Bin Laden raid, not just Michael. There was other men that were part of the bin Laden raid, even though I know a couple
Starting point is 01:10:28 of people said they weren't. Yeah. Well, you come talk to me and a couple of the other Gold Star dads, and we'll prove that you're wrong. Yeah, that our sons were there. And, um, so 93 days prior to to watching, right, they they they to watching, to watching, to watching, to watching, to watching, to watching, to watching, to watching, their, their, they they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, they, they, they, they. And, they. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.a, thi.a. And, thi.a.a.a.a. And, thi.a. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi.them, right, from the White House from Situation Room, Biden Obama and all his crew, 93 days later, nobody's got an eye on them. So in the 1,300 pages, and at the debriefing, General Colt actually told us, and it's in the 1,300 pages, the three eyes in the sky, all had a glitch at him when our son
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Starting point is 01:11:12 It's a camera, a camera to watch everything going on. But they all had a glitch in them, all three of them. And it even says in 1,300 pages, we never did a mission like this. And Admiral McRavin said, and it's in somewhere in an article, we go over every single mission and we practice and go over and over again multiple times to get it right. This was a rushed mission. The guys in our 1,300 pages, we've never seen a mission like this. And the comms went dark on the helicopter itself and then they took like a weird route, right? Something like that? They took, I think it was Northwest. I think they came in northwest. So they went dark on their path. So that sounds to me like maybe, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, in. So they went dark on comms and then they went off, they went off their path.
Starting point is 01:12:06 So that sounds to me like maybe some of these Afghans got busy. You know what I mean? They had the three minute call came in at three minutes to landing. And between the three minute call and the one minute to thr lapse. What's going on? That's forever. You tell me what the hell is going on. And nobody had no, nobody was talking to 30 guys, 30 Americans and 38 Afghans, right? Go get Quarry Tahir. You know, and that night, that night, the biggest, no matter who you are, where you come from, right in the Tangine Valley in Afghanistan, they don't have electricity.
Starting point is 01:12:46 So they all have fire pits. That's how they see at night. Everybody in front of the little villages and whatever have fire. That night, no cultural lighting. Nobody had a fire. So not only the tal man, Quarie and his men now, everybody in the Tangine Valley knew. Everybody got paid to not have a fire. So the helicopters coming in, there's no cultural lighting. It's in the 1,300 pages.
Starting point is 01:13:11 The poor pilot says, there's no lighting. And that's when he said, but there's men up on the roof. I could see them. And that was my question. I said, there were guys on the roof. And he said, well, they called up, and they said they were hanging crops at 3 o'clock in the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I don't know much about crops being from Port Richmond. You know what I mean? But I don't know anybody to hang crops three o'clock in the morning. Yeah. It was set up. They were on top. shaped objects, right? Yes. Yeah, and they just said not a... That's a journey mark, has... Yeah, yeah. And then under the trees, they were all... it's in the 1,300 pages, they were there, there was like 25, 30 towel man under the trees and they had back up. They wanted to, they wanted them to send more guys in after they killed the 30 men. They wanted more they were the people the people their they were their they were they were their they were their they were their they were more they were their they were more they were more their their their they were more their their their their their their their their their their their their thezen. They were their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. It was the. It was the. It was the. It was the. It was theathea. It was in theateathea. It was in theateateateateateatr. It was. It was thea. It was thea. It was thea. It's thea. It's thea. It's thirty. It's the an to come. They were going to kill more Americans. That's how planned out this was. And they were under the trees.
Starting point is 01:14:08 They had motorcycles, RPGs, machine guns, walkie-talkie, cell phones, night vision goggles. They had everything. Iran helps out the tel man. Yeah. The contractors that we have over in Afghanistan for 20 years, making hundreds of millions of dollars, help out the town ban. We go to court within the next few months to testify.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I'm testifying first against the contractors. We have 346 Gold Star families whose sons and daughters were killed between 2010-2015 in Afghanistan and we have checks that the contractors gave the quarry tie here and some of the names in the 1300 pages. Yeah. And the lawyers are Kellogg and Hanson from Washington, D.C. And Ryan Sparicino. And they had a court case in October that just passed.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And I was supposed to go down to testify, but because of COVID, they wouldn't let me come down. And then they asked the judge, well, we'll have Mr. Strange talk through Zoom. And the judge said, no, Mr. Strange. Really? Because you can get COVID through Zoom. You gotta laugh where you're I'll fucking kill someone. You know what, first they said it was the G forces that killed them all. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm not a...
Starting point is 01:15:32 Now, mind you, my brother served 30. Right. They were 50 feet off the ground. Yeah, yeah. So my brother served 35 years in the military. Okay, he flew, it was a pilot engineer for a C-130, he said, that's not even possible. Yeah, right. Yeah, I know that.
Starting point is 01:15:49 So it was the G-forces, then it was, and you know the building that them men shot from? Guess where that building came from? Us. That used to be a base there. And that was left behind by us. Yeah. So this is what they used.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Now, RPGs, we find out, because we don't know. When you shoot an RPG, it's very erratic. It goes like this. Yeah, they're like rockets. Right. But a heat-seeking missile locks on to the target and will chase it until it hits it. Especially in the pitch dark. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Benghazi. Yeah, when did that happen? When was Benghazi? 13 months after this, after that. Really. But I want to read to you, you know, I mentioned no culture lighting, nobody had a fire pit that night. the heat. in 12. Okay. It was Benghazi. 13 months later. I want to read to you, you know, I mentioned no culture lighting, nobody had a fire pit that night. Now this is General Colt talking
Starting point is 01:16:51 to question to people over there. The 10th combat aviation brigadier guys consider that to be a really bright valley most of the time. Aircraft commander night vision goggles did not work because not enough light, but the shooters did. All eyes were off of extortion 17, seal team six. The I.R. image in friar, looking elsewhere. Not on the guys that killed Bin Laden. Squirters. The unknowns around the landing zones. Seal team six is on the way. No one watching their front, back, or their sides.
Starting point is 01:17:28 The 5C, deployable satellite marked, are with laser spots, the eyes in the sky. Aircraft commander, tracking squirters in the area of the landing zone of extortion 17, the bad guys towbanned squirters. Never engaged any of the unknowns on or around the the the the landing the landing the landing the landing the landing the landing the landing the landing the landing the bad guys towel band Squirters. Never engaged any of the unknowns on or around the landing zone. Squirters were spotted 500 meters to the southeast of the landing zone. Aircraft commander says there were significant delays getting extortion 17 into the landing zone.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Several minutes have passed from when anticipated hearing that one minute call to the, from the three minute call to the one minute call, there was a 13 minute lapse, which my wife just said. The navigator, I didn't believe that was a helicopter because there was nothing. It was a, it turned into all kinds of fire and shooting going on. Forty, five minutes to an an hour extortion 17 is shot down. 810 aircraft comes on station. Pathfinders elements were ready to infill on the crash flight, but were held. Pathfinders are usually sent in prior to things.
Starting point is 01:18:38 They go check the area. Navigators may not be the most tactically of sound decision, but three hours in the area prior to the infill. Shot was maybe 6 to 700 meters, which is 1,968 feet to 2,296 feet by an RPG. A miles 5,280 feet. Whoa, whoa, hold on. They said it's a thousand feet? Shot 100 meters.
Starting point is 01:19:09 That's crazy. That's 968 feet to 2,296 feet the RPG. That was the... A miles 5,280 feet. Yeah. That's how far the shot was. That was in 1364 pages. Well, that's not what all these other Navy Seals are saying, they're saying it's 100 feet.
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Starting point is 01:19:49 And you ask these questions. Some of the these are the questions I have. Yeah. Never been answered. And you, does anybody listen to this stuff? I get hung up by the Department of Justice. Call the Department of Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice Justice the the the the the to the to to the Department of Justice, ask the bad extortion 17, they'll say we're looking into it. Yeah. President Trump did open an investigation, he had us at the White House twice. I gave him some of the
Starting point is 01:20:10 1,300 pages. Yeah. Oh yeah. He sat there reading some of the pages and he's looking at me and Charlie and he's like, oh my god, and he says to a secret service. He said, come here for a minute. Hold these. I want these papers later. I want to read these images that Mr. Strange just gave me. Yeah. And you know, like that just meant the world to us. Yeah. But and that just shows you how much of a caring person he is. I don't care about his tweets. If it hurts your feelings, boo freaking who? Okay, get over it. Look at our country now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:48 The man pads we were talking about, the heat-seeking missile, you know, fast and furious, right? Yeah, you don't hear about that no more. Oh, yeah. Benghazi, what was Stevenson doing there? He's getting rid of Hillary with the trades of all kinds of weapons. She took over the trades. And then in my words, the shooter wouldn't have been lucky, as earlier stated, because the manpads designed the home in on the heat source on aircraft, just pointing in the general direction. There's no need for adding night vision goggles.
Starting point is 01:21:17 If everyone else couldn't see clearly how the shooter is using an RPG. There's one weapon that could do this in the dark. A manpad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. that. the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thatathea................................................................................................................................. in the dark. A manpapap. Yeah. Right. Surface air missile. And that's supposedly what Glendocardy was there in Libya for to search for the shoulder-fired anti-air aircraft missiles, the manpads. You know, it's just, the whole thing was by design without doubt. That landing site was never checked. It was, there was six IEDs around that landing site. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:56 So whether, you know, the shot hit the aft blade on the Chinookthe Chinook or not it was they were going down. Yeah I get so sad thinking that they knew I know what I mean because they're like they must have known. And what the hell was going on in that helo in that 13 minute time frame? I'm asking you know I'm asking you know I in my head I'm thinking it was one of the Afghans loaded up you know ready to blow himself up is that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. the th. the th. the th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I the the the th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm their their their their their their they's they's they's their. I'm their. I their. I their. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I the. I th. I'm th. I th. I th. I'm thinking it was one of the Afghans loaded up, you know, ready to blow himself up. Is that why Michael jumped out? Yeah. You know, like a fist fight, like what was going on in the end? And that voice recorder underneath the pilot seat had to be that that information has to be on there. Oh, you're right. By law, they're supposed to be three different devices. I mean they're listening to your phone they're listening to that. Oh they're listening to it and you know what it's
Starting point is 01:22:51 buried so deep somewhere because Big Mount Biden, Leon the Snake Panetta, Hillary the killer Clinton. I love it. You know like they would go down hard. Yeah. I mean you can see right now that they're almost, they put the entire country at risk just to save their asses right now because at the end of the day they have no allegiance to anyone. They're all about money and fucking blackmail. Oh, it's bad man. It's evil. Yeah. They're pure evil. This is from the 1,300 pages from an aircraft commander. One th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's is is they's is they's is they's is they's is th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeate. I theeeeeeeeee. I theeeeee. I they're they're from the 1300 pages from an aircraft commander. One thing I'd like to point out to you general cult is normal. Well it's not normal. We'd like to roll with a direct support officer, a hobbit we call it. He was capable of a monitor push to talk and things of nature. We were not able to have
Starting point is 01:23:42 the DSO for this sort of on this particular night. Two individuals are starting to brag over the internet. They actually said their names who shot the manpad or the RPG. Yeah. The microscope, the mission interpreter, report, if they're listening the whole time, the opposite in progress, why didn't they hear what was coming from the tower and the building position prior to the infill??...... the inf inf inf inf.... the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, thi. Two, thi, thi, thiol, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, th. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. thi. Two, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi. Two, thi in progress, why didn't they hear what was coming from the tower and the building position prior to the infill? Why did they decide to use one ship and why? Why did the second 47 extortion 17 get out of sight? Yeah. Right. You know, it's just, it pisses me off that, the elephant in the room, the seven Afghans. Yeah. Yeah, that's, you know, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, they, I, I, they, I, I, they, they, they, they, they, I, they, I, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they, they they they they they they they they they they they they they, they, they they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they, they they they they they they they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they they, they they they they they their their their they they they they they they they they they they they're just they elephant in the room, the seven Afghans.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, I mean, there's so much, and they keep saying that's just a coincidence. That's just a coincidence. Oh no, that's, that didn't happen. Really? Well, it says it in the 1300 pages. Is that all a lie? My great happens in the day, like right afterwards, Leon Panetta is on PBS saying it was the SEAL
Starting point is 01:24:46 Teams. Joe Biden's given some speech. May 3rd. Where he says, thank you for the SEALs, all this. And you know, these guys, they get told what to say. They don't come up with their own fucking shit, you know, no, they can't. So this was all orchestrated. Yep, it was all by design all by design follow the money Hey, no, and then Panetta is teaming up with
Starting point is 01:25:12 Hollywood Giving them secrets for zero dark 30 right which makes no fucking sense. And none of those people? And none of those people had clearance. They don't care. They were like, what are you doing? They said to Panetta. And he's like, oh, I thought they all had clearance. You're the second.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Yeah, Holly weird, I call it. This is the Secretary of Defense of the United States of America. Oh, I thought they all had clearance. Bullshed. Yeah. I call bullshit on him. That was bizarre. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. they. they. They. They. They. They. They. They. They they. They they. They they. They they. They they. They were. They were. They were. They were they. They were. They were they. They were they were they were. They were they were. They were. They were. They were. They were they were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They. They. They. They. They were. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They they. They they. They they. They they. They they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they they they thought they all had clearance. Bullshit. Yeah. I call bullshit on him. That was bizarre. So they teamed up with all the, like to rewind, they teamed up with all the seals after they've been laundering in Philly to train for zero doctority? Down to Virginia. That was in Virginia. What was the thing with Michael seeing his boxing coach? That was a cool story. Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. that was. that was. that was. that was. that was. that was. That was. That was seeing his boxing coach? Yeah. Oh, Bobby Wals. Bobby Wals.
Starting point is 01:26:06 That's a cool story in the book. Bobby, Bobby was Navy and then he went into the army. But Bobby was from Costello's gym in Philadelphia. When the Michael's mother got divorced, she left me with the three kids to get her act together. And, um, Chris Coste, one of the castell is from from, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, the, th, the, th, th, th, the, the, was, the, the, was, was, was, was, the, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was. the, was. the, was. the, was. the, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. And, was. the, was the, was. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the t they. the, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, was of the Costello's from the gym, came over and picked up Michael and Charles, my two sons and started taking them to boxing. And Bobby Walls was there and he beat the hell out of Michael up and down the steps. Boxing went older guys and he wouldn't give up.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Bobby Walls. Man, I don't know what's up with this strange kid? He gave him 200 push-ups to do he do 200 push-ups. And Bobby took a liking to him and he said, man, this kid's man. And then a few years later, Bobby came back from the Battle of Ramadi. He had 52 confirmed kills, Bobby Walls, Philadelphia, Sw father judge guy, swat, swat, Philly swat, and while he's on swat, seal team six was coming to the city. The president was coming in and they set up on the roofs and blending with the
Starting point is 01:27:16 crowd, these guys Michael and them and they're carrying all their weapons and putting them in this big safe. So the captain told Bobby Walls, you're military, Bobby, you show these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys these guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys guys guys guys, these guys guys guys guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys, they's, they's, they's, they's, they., they., they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they's guys, they's guys, they's guys, they's all their weapons and putting them in this big safe. So the captain told Bobby Walls, your military, Bobby, you show these guys where to go. And they're walking by and Michael's smiling at Bobby Walls. And it's been, you know, years. And Bobby Wals, because why does this guy keep smiling at me? And then Bobby walls, the second time Michael's walking by with two big bags of guns. He goes Hollywood because Bobby Wals called him Hollywood because Michael was with a smile and Michael put his hands over Bobby Walls's mouth. Don't say my name. And he's like, oh my God, sealed team six. You did it, kid, Jesus. And that was the story with Costello's Jim and Bobby Wals. Yeah. And so this day, we stay in touch with Bobby's a great guy. Yeah, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. Yeah, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th was was was was was was was was was was was was was, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, th was was was was. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. the th. th. th. th. So, Michael was. So, Michael was. So Bobby Wals. And so this day we stay.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And Bobby, yeah. Bobby's a great guy who's, you know, supports everything we do. You guys do do a lot of great shit, man. Like listening to the stories with the retreats and all that. I mean, you gotta do some for these parents. Nobody out. So just 16 parents, just parents alone, that doesn't include step-parents,
Starting point is 01:28:29 doesn't include the siblings who were the forgotten ones. Oh yeah, yeah, right. It doesn't include grandparents, aunts and uncles, their friends, their comrades in, you know, in battle. Like, it's just one person affects so many people yeah and then the suicide like with a Michael Strange Foundation dot org we bring the gold star families in for a weekend we're having our 11th weekend May 6th to 8th right at Ben Salm and
Starting point is 01:29:03 and Now we start to bring in the families that lost their sons and daughters in Iraq, Afghanistan and Africa to suicide because at first I was like they weren't killed in action and then me and my wife talked I said yeah but them kids didn't sign up thinking about suicide when they came back for a war. You don't know where you're signing up for. Right, right. And then they go over there and, you know, they become friends and, you know, fuck the same girls and go out and party and meet their kids. And so you become tight with them in the military.
Starting point is 01:29:36 That's the bond they have. And then? That's, you know, due to the suicide and thinking it should have been them. Yeah. That's a wrong game. And we saw bringing them in the parents there. I call them Gold Star even though they didn't die right in the line of action. They have another pin for them. I don't know what that's called. But we bring them. The thinn. The them the parents their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. they's th. th. their their thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I's th. I's th. I's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I's their. I. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's. I's their. I's th. I'm. I'm th. I'm te. We're toge. We're te. And. And. And. And. And. And te. And. And. And. And. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And too. We bought, this will be close to 350 Gold Star families who bought in for the weekends and we pay for the hotel, the food, the plane tickets, because they already paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms. Yeah. And it helps us, you know, meeting them, hearing the parents about their sons and how to get through the birthday. It's got good to be able to talk to other parents because this shit will drive drive their their their th d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. they the. the. toda. toda. toda. today. today. today today. today today. today. today. today today. today. today nuts. Well, let me tell you, some of the stories that we've heard with the parents, you know, they get disconnected from their immediate family because at Christmas time,
Starting point is 01:30:32 you know, Christine is talking about her son who's not here, and her family's like, would you just get over that already? We're tired of hearing about it. Or you have like Christine Koch, she was on our first weekend. She lost her son, Stephen, Marine, and so she's got three kids. Her daughter Lenny, Rutgers grad, hot, you know, really smart girl, very smart girl, never did drugs, you know, da da da da. She's like, mom, why are you going to these memorials for Stephen? He's coming home, she's in complete denial. And the parents took her to a shrink, three different shrinks. Right. 16 months later, they find Lenny, she ate a bottle of pills and left
Starting point is 01:31:23 and said, uh, Stephen isn't coming home, so I'm going to go be with them. Yeah. So she lost two kids to that war. Yeah. We've had probably about. Oh, so many. Stephen Dina folks from North Carolina. They'll be here in May again.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Some was killed in Afghanistan, the brother. 18 the car accident. And, uh, two two two two two two two two two two the the two the the the the the the the the the the the th. So, so th, so th, so th, so th, so th, so, so th, so th, so th, so th, so th, so th. Yeah, so thi, so thi, so tho tho th. Yeah, so th. So, so th. Yeah, so th, so th, so th, so th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so, so th. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, so thi, 18 months later, car accident, and two children. So meeting us, and it's God working through us, believe me, God working through us to help others just like Jesus Christ would, you know, put our hand out, that's right, we ain't that, you know. We're not that smart to think of something like this, you know, join the club. It's God, it's Michael, it's, you know, it's, you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we, we, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're that, we're that, we're that, we're that, we're that, we're that's, we're that's, we're that's, that's, that's, we're that's, we're that's, we're that's, we're that's, we're that's, we're that's, we're that's, we're that, we're that, we're that, we're that, we're that, we're that, we know, it's God, it's my goal, it's, you know, it's, uh. Yeah, I think it's extremely important to do that, especially after a way you get treated when you like try to get help, like, or just closure from the government. They start lying to you.
Starting point is 01:32:15 You got to start talking people or if not, you're going to think, I I I you're going you, you're going you, you're going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thin thin th and then get lied to by the government. The cover up for extortion 17 and 30 men's unbelievable. I'm hoping in the next few months we will be in Washington, D.C. for our other case against the contractors and Iran. I mean, you got the receipts, that's wild. We got the receipts and we got checks from some of the contractors to the Taliban with Quarry Tahir's name in it and Dim Mohammed's name in it from the Taliban that the contractors gave. I read a Scott Horn book called the Fool's Aaron, like why are we in the, why are we in this war in Afghanistan for 20 years and he goes into this. He's got he talks about the checks and how like we pay them and we give them, we give them the private guys, not like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the checks and how like we pay them and we give them we give them caught like the private guys not our military but the private like contractors like how
Starting point is 01:33:08 burden they they give them like cover they give them tanks they give them cars all this they get Humvees all this stuff so they're going over there these guys are like goat hers they're giving them fucking Humvees well well you know what they do they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they pay the Taliban X amount of dollars to be able to get their stuff through. Because if not, you know, they're not going to get the equipment that they need in. But the checks that we have go from, one contractor goes to Quarry Tahir, which takes it to this bank, and then it comes to a bank in America, and then goes back, like you know, trying it to this bank and then it comes to a bank in America and then goes back like you know trying to wash it through yeah right but it it's just horrible the whole thing and then like Charlie was saying the heroin
Starting point is 01:33:56 the heroin epidemic that is in this country right now is unbelievable. Yeah the Sacklers wanted some opium so we're're going to go, we're going to go over there. Oh my God, it's horrible and you're going to tell me that it wasn't like this before we went to over into Afghanistan with all those. And they had our soldiers protecting the poppy fields. Yeah, yeah. And these men didn't want to do this. This isn't what they signed up for. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the their they th they th tho tho tho to to to to to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to go to to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to go to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. their tho. tho. their tho. tho. their tho. tho. their to to to thoo. to their to to thoooooe. to to their to to to to to to to to men didn't want to do this. These women didn't want to do this. This isn't what they signed up for. Yeah. Knowing that it's going to take, you know, maybe one of their siblings or, you know, one of their friends. For God's sake, it's, it's crazy. It was what it is. Now, what happened with the hearing that they put on? Because then they put on like some BS hearing, I think it was Gary Reed testifying?
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah, that was Jason Chaffetz. We went to the Ray Burton building, me and my wife, and in the beginning, there was probably about 20 of the gold stars from McSturish and 17. But they were flying from all. Was the one you were about what happened to our sons that day with Jason Chaffetz. And then two weeks before the hearing, Jason Chaffetz in down the DC said all the parents
Starting point is 01:35:14 could ask questions except for Mr. Strange. And then me and Larry Klamen and my wife and a couple people went nuts and the security came, his bodyguards came and asked us to take a break, don't come back for like two days. And then Jason Chaffetz came out and said that none of the parents will ask the questions, Congress will ask the questions. And at the hearing, it wasn't a congressional hearing, it was called honoring 31 heroes. That was not a congressional hearing. And the congressman never read the questions except for Mr. Micah from Florida. And then Gary Reed
Starting point is 01:35:54 came and he, uh... I don't like his face. He, he, uh, he danced all around it. He was Chuck Kegel's right hand man. And the other three people were there. They were from the mortuary because Michael wasn't burned. They were hired in 2012. We had the hearing in 2013. And they weren't, they didn't work there. They didn't know nothing.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Which is smart. Why would you send somebody that might say something? We did get to the Pentagon, me and my wife, we th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. They didn't know nothing, which is smart. Why would you send somebody that might say something? We did get to the Pentagon, me and my wife, we weren't allowed to bring Larry Claiming, we weren't allowed to bring any other gold stars. That's when you went in and the talenton. Gary Reed and three other four-star generals. They escorted this in with two machine guns, two men with machine guns. We go in there. And Reed, this son of a bitch, I was telling about the, you know, men on the roof, men under the trees. He's like you can't believe everything you read on the internet, Mr. Strange, and I start saying no, and he was talking over me.
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Starting point is 01:38:26 so there couldn't have been a switch out. I dove across the table and I'm screaming, I wanted to punch him so bad, I'm screaming in his face, you're lying, piece of shit. These guys will have security and he's like, what are you doing? He pulls me from my feet, because I'm across the table, shrieming. I was, I'm like, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, to, to, to to switch, to switch, to switch, to switch, to switch, to switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the switch, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the the the the the to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toea, toe. toe. toea, toe. toe. pulls me from my feet because I'm across the table screaming. I was, I'm like, you piece of shit. That's not what you said at the congressional hearing. Dude's probably in therapy because of this.
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Starting point is 01:39:12 On paper? Right. And then you got to be kidding me. Where'd you get this from? Looking dumb found it and he's like you didn't read you invite us here and you didn't read it So then we leave our questions right here which we have in front of you Mm-hmm we left like 20 questions, you know and three months goes by I called congressman Bob Brady he's one that sort of pushed us to get into the Pentagon and I said Mr. Brady I said we never heard back and he gave me a certain number to call and I get to Gary into the Pentagon, and I said, Mr. Brady, I said, we never heard back. And he gave me a certain number to call,
Starting point is 01:39:47 and I get to Gary Reed's desk. And they called me back like an hour later. We lost your questions. I said, I'll send them back down. Yeah. Called again, two months later. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Because all the questions that I typed it up. There was three pages. They're in the book, relentless, Barnes and Noble. Yep, yeah, three pages I stapled them. I gave everybody a copy of them. And I'm like, you know, it's it's just why did you create mate Michael? Why weren't they on a black call? What happened between the one minute and three minute call? It's a 13 minute? You know, questions, like these are questions that need to be answered. What about the seven Afghans? Who? They turned around. The seven Afghans whose names were on the manifest, they actually went to their families and said, look, you know, your son, husband, your loved one died, did it? Then they had to go back and say, oh no, we made a mistake, your husband's alive. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Oh, shit. Yeah. That's how screwed up they are. Yeah. You know, they can't find their ass with both hands. The big thing, you know, August, all them commanders leaving, you know, without that. The change of command ceremony at Special Operations Command, Admiral Bill McRaven, the defense Navy SEAL, taking over was Admiral Eric Olson. A coincidence? They don't take the blame, they just switch to players. Defense Secretary Leon the Snake-Panetta said, we will never stop. We will fight on until we have
Starting point is 01:41:25 achieved the final goal of victory over terrorism. The man is a pimp. Did the changing of command have to do with what happened to SEAL Team 6 and the 30 men? The investigation. Adam McCraven designed and oversaw to the Bin Laden raid. Craven rehearses every operation. It was on 2012 Aspen Security Forum. I think he was with the guy on CNN with the gray hair.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Cooper? Yeah, Cooper. At the Aspen, 2012 Aspen Security for him. Yeah, chill. So it's, you know, it's devastating, you know what I mean, to get lied to, especially you know, your son dies. I don't get lied to you, you get fucked with like that. And threatened.
Starting point is 01:42:14 You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So now you guys, war mode, podcasting. You're going to go right up on the list, you know to see how stupid I am. Yeah, that's stupid, you know, it's, it's.
Starting point is 01:42:32 I for real think like crazy shit a lot of time, but like from the, from the day that Michael grabbed your arm and was like, you're not going to believe what's going on in this country, to today, I think he's still doing this. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Like, there's no way. Absolutely. As Michael and the men working through us to help others and get a real congressional hearing, get somebody held accountable, somebody has to go to prison, 30 men died. It wasn't a lucky shot. It was done by design. The Clintons, the Obama administrator, the contractors, Karzai, you know what I mean? And everything that comes in and out of, and Joe Biden, you know what I mean? That's treason for vice president to mention the team, you know.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Yeah. It's, uh, it's heartbreaking. It, emotionally, mentally, physically, it kills us, you know, but we ain't gonna stop meeting these other Gold Star families. People like you guys, we can't thank you enough with more remote. It's all in our book. Relantless, please buy the book. Relatless at Barnes & Noble online for $20. Hit like on Michael Strange, Facebook.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Michael Strange Foundation.org. We got PayPal. You can order Seal Team Six Shirts. Picture the Shnook, remember the 31 heroes. You know, we really like that honor and remember these guys. A lot of Gold Star parents think their sons and daughters died in vain. Because everything went on. I'm talking to the 13 gold,
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Starting point is 01:44:31 You know, and you know, it's, you know, one thing that really they hate, like the word treason but dereliction of duty. I said that to a couple of them, they were like, this is a dereliction of duty, da da da da, do you know what that means? I'm like, I know exactly what it means. What does it mean? Just like fucking up, like beyond belief? Right? Yeah, exactly. Just like not giving a fuck?
Starting point is 01:44:57 Exactly. It's not doing your job and it's not caring. It really does seem like these guys don't give a fuck. No, they don't. You know what I mean? You know what they give a shit about, that next star, that next tripe, that you know, from general to major, that's what they care about. The other thing that sucks at it, it fucks up all the guys that are, like they got, it makes all them look like assholes and they can't say anything because then they'll get fucked with by literally the people they work with. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:29 And you know, it's, it's these men, like the training that they did, you know, um. It's not like they put me up in the channel, like go for it. Probably a million dollars in a miull. He's a genius. It's not more more more more more more more. It was not. It was not th. It was not th. It was not th. It was not th. It was not th. It was not th. It was not th. It was not th. It was not they's not they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're not like they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like. It's. It's. It's not. It's not like. It's not like. It's not like. It's not like. It's not like their their their their their their their their they. It's not like. It's not like like. It's not like. It's not like. It's not like they're not like they're not like in it, Michael. He's a genius. If not more. Yeah, you know what I mean? It was billions of dollars to train these men. Do you know who teaches these men how to shoot? Oh, gold star metal, Olympic medal winners. Like the marksmen? Yeah, they teach them how to shoot.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Like, and every gun put every gun to put it together. They can take it apart, put it together, you know. Like a real life Jason Bourne. Exactly. The things that they did, you know, going in the snow and wearing all that, and shooting and and just, you know, and then taking them to the heat of Africa and, you know, the Sahara Desert. And so they have to go from one extreme to the other, but, and to be able to handle that. And, you know, the surroundings around them, you know, it's just, it's amazing the things that they've done. Yeah, Michael didn't go through Buds like Charlie said, but he did all thats that they've done. Yeah. And Michael didn't go through buds like Charlie said, but he did all that other training.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Yeah, right. Yeah. To transform from, from, you know, where they were in Vietnam into, you know, into the desert and what they go through is unbelievable training for all our veterans and military, it's what these men and women do. As far as West Point and Annapolis goes and these guys that never go, the only ones I really respect with a gentleman that go on the battlefield fight and then go to West Point
Starting point is 01:47:14 and go to Annapolis and I met some of them and they know and they don't usually stay around long because of all the corruption that's going on and all the money laundering. The Bank of Pakistan we're going after the Bank of Iran and some banks here in America. And you'll see that on. I don't know if it will make national news. I know it'll be on Newsmax and Fox News within the next probably eight months. It was on once. It was on once in November.
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Starting point is 01:48:18 who opened their mouths and put the target on these men's backs we were to tell that the Taliban wanted to wipe out the entire bloodline. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The ramp ceremony thing fucked me up. I'm not gonna lie. That was a bizarre thing. I don't, I still don't understand, but they had a mom speak, right? And give some kind of weird thing about the immodels? Imam? Yeah. And they, I don't know, like... They cast our men to hell because we were the infidels.
Starting point is 01:48:53 And this is all in Arabic. This is in Arabic, but on our American base. Yeah, saying this over the bodies. Over 30 caskets. The infidels to hell. Yeah, casting the infidels to hell yeah casting the infidels to hell there was a bunch of people pissed off about that and they would not allow you know the reverend or priest on that you know for their men yeah right on the base to say anything at all money money money look at Obama look at a couple hundred million dollars,
Starting point is 01:49:25 look at the senators, Congress, you know, Morris and Vineyard. Oh yeah, yeah, but I want to say, you know, we talked about the RPG or it could have been a manpad, right? I want to read something to you to get your listeners twist a little bit, you know about Benghazi. Woods and Doherty were part of the global response staff. The CIA, the CIA, the CIA, the CIA, to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thia, thi, their, their, their, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, their, more, you, you, you, you, you, you, more more more, more, more, more, more, more, more, they. You, they. You, they. You, they. You, they. You, they. You, they. You, they. You, more, more, more, more, more, more, thi, more, they. I I I msovan, more, more, more, more, more, theymea, more, theymea, more, more, more, theymea, more, more, more, more, more, theysoa, more, more, more, more, more, they.orgue..A. element. They were to protect CIA, D.A. Operators who were part of the mission to track and repurchase from whom arms consisting of more than 20,000 missing arms, right? Fast and Furious. The man pads. Shoulder launch surface to air missiles, stingers. They were the postman's air defense, you know, the stinger missiles. And then Ben-Gy, you know, Michael and them what happened there.
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Starting point is 01:50:46 a seal commander Job, Job Price. He lived up in Potsdown. We met his wife and she grabbed me and she said, they said Job Price committed suicide. He was not only on Seal Team 6, he was commander of over 300 special op guys, this guy Joe Price from Potsdown. But before, he worked for Hillary Clinton on her command for 10 months, and a month later they said he committed suicide. And body count just is fucking insane. His wife, he was 42, 42 years old, committed suicide. You know, like, his sister just met me down Tony Luke's in South Philly a few months ago,
Starting point is 01:51:26 a lot of questions, you know. But in no coincidence that he was watching the Clintons. Killery. These men get, you know, tests like to make sure that they're mentally capable to continue doing their job. And you're going to say, and he had a daughter. He would have never killed himself. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:51:49 You know, I mean, look at the guy with the Clintons, the guy that shot himself in the head twice. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I mean, come on now. The Muslim Brotherhood right founded in Egypt 1928 the Arab world's most influential and on the largest is Islamic movement plus it's
Starting point is 01:52:13 the largest political opposition organization in many Arab states which came right in to Washington. by Barack Hussein Obama. I remember we were, I forget where we were at and he was talking to this lady and he said, well, you know, Barack Hussein Obama and he said it a couple times. She goes, why do you keep saying that? He said, saying what? She said Barack Hussein Obama,sein Obama, Charlie says, that's his name. No, it's not. Yes, it is. He's a Muslim.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I mean, do you know how many times, like a couple times a week, he would have the Muslim Brotherhood at the White House for dinner. She said, I send Barack Obama money, and he sends me a sign card every Christmas. And she says... Santa Claus dropped that off? She says, because you know, black people were slaves. I said, can I get a slave? She goes, stop. I said, I never had a slave. She goes, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I said, my dad didn't have a slave. Yeah. I said, my grandfather didn't have a slave. But his grandfather came from Ireland and he was treated worse than anybody in the world. And the lady's like, no. And his name ain't Barack Hussein Obama. I send him a lot of money. And he sends me a Christmas card. Yeah. People are, you know. The media gets to him. Yeah. Yeah. I'm. I send him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him the media. I. I. I. I. I the media. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the. their. their. th. he. he. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He. He. He. He are out of months. Well, the media gets to them. Yeah. Oh, the media is, you know, they're right in with the politics and the politicians, you know. And they're, it's just, it's such.
Starting point is 01:54:01 It is a wild thing that Hollywood really geared up, after all this, Hollywood really geared up on the war movies. Yeah, because you have zero dark 30 and then 13 hours right after Magazi. Right. Recruiting, yeah. Right. Right. But they won't touch anything about extortion one seven.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Yeah. They won't touch a thing about that because if I ever came out it would be it would take down Biden, Hillary, Obama, Panetta, McLevin, I mean the list goes on and on. So Francois, I won't say his last name, a film producer from Canada. Mm-hmm. Been doing films for 30 years, came to Philadelphia four times with his crew. Film Michael's friends, us of course, family members. Flew Joanie Marquez, the girl that was in the C-130 into Canada, had her there for seven days. So on our weekend workshops with the Gold Star families,
Starting point is 01:54:59 we were going to Lennox, Massachusetts, a guy by the name of E. Al Shapiro bought a Chinook helicopter. Yeah. Who buys a Chinook helicopter? Eau does. He owns the railroad. He said it took a Jewish guy from Israel to run your railroad. But he knows about the freedoms and what goes on. So we, the Michael Strange Foundation put, I guess, about 32 gold stars from Extortion 17 up
Starting point is 01:55:24 to the Sh Chinook state a weekend. We stayed at a high class resort, treated him, you know, they did her. But anyway, so Francois was coming from Canada with his wife and son. 30 years, he been doing films. Part of Gotti movie, some big time movies. Yeah, with his business. He's coming to see us. And just talk to some of the parents if they want to be in our documentary.
Starting point is 01:55:51 They stop him at the border. Don't ask him if he's got cigarettes. Where are you going? Yeah. Pull over. They put him in a cell. His wife and son, 12-year-old son in another cell. Kept them for six years, took his passport, and you're never allowed, six hours, I'm sorry, six hours in the cell, took his passport and you're never allowed back in America. Holy shit. That was 2018, and we're, you know, we still, he's got two seasons of the documentary done.
Starting point is 01:56:30 And he just filed about a month ago to get his passport back and be able to come back into America. But for 30 years doing films and documentaries. One little coincidence. It's another coincidence because he's doing extortion 17. Yeah. So, you know, we're praying for that. He got a lawyer involved. He said he knows other film directors. The lady was in Texas questioning the government. She was flying to California.
Starting point is 01:56:55 All of a sudden she's on a no-fly list. Yeah. But to be banned from America because he's talking about Michael and the guy's extortion 17. So he just put him with him the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer the lawyer their their their their their their to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to. to be too. too. too. too. too. too. too. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toethe guy's extortion 17. So he just put in with his lawyer and papers again. But they kept his wife and son in a room that was freezing cold, no jackets. They said to him why you're shaking he goes because you got the air condition on me I ain't got my jacket. So and we know these people we stayed with him for two weeks up in Canada and they've been here like I said more than half a dozen times the papers papers papers. th. the th. the the th. th. the the th. the the th. the the the the th. the the the the the the th. the the the the th. the papers papers papers papers papers papers papers papers papers papers papers papers again again again again. th. th. their papers. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. He. He. He. He. He. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. their. their. their. their. their their their their their them for two weeks up in Canada and they've been here Like I said more more than one and a half a dozen times and You know any film Joanie Marquez a Navy seal who wouldn't show his face and
Starting point is 01:57:34 Some other people I probably should say yeah, yeah, no, but yeah, so this is the stuff that we go through. Yeah. You know, just trying to get everything out. I mean, it has to come out. This has to, this information has to come out. Something's up because I'm surprised they haven't made a movie about it. They won't even, you know, they don't even want to put Mark Wahlberg in something like you know, I mean, it's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a th. th. that, th. that, that, th. that, that, that, that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a big money maker. Why are they afraid of this? Right, exactly. Exactly. Because the truth, you know. And the thing is, you know, Hollywood,
Starting point is 01:58:10 I would be afraid of what they would do to this. Yeah. You know, like we've talked about this. Like we would want to be a part of getting this made, not and have it not all Holly weird up. Yeah, right. Read. Read. that. the book. the book. that. the book. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the. the. the. theat. the. theat. the. theat. theat. the. the. the. the. th it not all Holly weird up. Yeah, right. Read the book, relentless, please, Barnes and Noble, $20. I know that's the Strange Foundation.org, check us out. Reach out, hit us up on Facebook. Appreciate everybody's support and love for our country. We got to take you back. Don't give up. Michael would never give up. No matter what happened. Read about extortion 17.
Starting point is 01:58:46 You can look up Charles Strange, you can look up Michael Strange online, Google it. They took a lot of stuff down. Yeah. Yeah. Coincidence. We're not conspiracy theorist. We are, this is reality. This is our reality.
Starting point is 01:59:02 So this is the history, right. Biggest loss of life in Iraq, Afghanistan, biggest loss of life in the history of America. 22 men from Dev Group. Coincidence. Three eyes in the sky that were watching them went out. 93 days after the bin Laden bin Laden rain. Lucky shot, coincidence. IEDs around landing site, coincidence. Talban ready. Quarry Tahir, the guy they coincidence, tow the band ready. Quarri Tahir, the guy that they were supposed to be after a high value target, which they named objective Lefty Grove. He knew, he moved from village to village with his crew. Coincidence. No lights,
Starting point is 01:59:38 no fire pits, coincidence. Just that night. Every other day, year round, they always have a fire pick because they don't have electricity. How did they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. they were they were their. they were they were they were they were their. they were their. they were their. they were their. they were their. they were their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they were supposed. they were supposed. they were supposed. they were supposed. they were supposed a fire pick because they don't have electricity. How did they know what helicopter it was? How did the people who were bragging on the internet know who was inside that helicopter? Carzai was the first one to say that it was that son of a bitch? How did he know? You're going to tell me this wasn't a setup? And like Charlie the money, it's all by design. That's the entire. It's the entire. The entire. The entire. The entire. It's the entire. It's the entire. That's the entire. It's the the the the the the the the the the the their. How to tell me this wasn't a setup? It's, and like Charlie says all the time, follow the money, it's all by design. Yeah. The entire thing. And Navy Seal, Terry Hoon, I would love to talk to you. The other guy to Ed that wrote the book will not answer any of our questions. We'll not look at the 1,300 pages. Jonathan Gilman, he's looking at it. Drago, you can call Drago, Navy Seal, look
Starting point is 02:00:28 him up anytime. He'll tell you straight up. It was a set up. There is other men. They have families and kids. That's why some of them, you know, backed up or don't show their face, just her voice. Someone has to be held accountable so this don't happen again. Senators and congressmen need to be held accountable. Everybody knows now since President Trump told that you know look at their bank accounts you make 175,000 a year you leave with 200 million the contractors in Afghanistan. You'll hear about it you'll see about it Michael Strange Facebook and WarMobile have us back on again. We'll talk more, you'll see about it, Michael Strange, Facebook, and Warmobile will
Starting point is 02:01:06 have us back on again. We'll talk more, talk more about it. And I think I can give you the name and phone number of the lawyer. I think he will give you an interview. Okay. Wrap it up? That's right. Thanks guys.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Thank you. Thank you. That's fine, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks. We bounced around. Sorry about that. Thank you. That, dude, it's fine, man. We did a great job. We never have a straight line. We always bounce around. Just a normal conversation.
Starting point is 02:01:31 I want to go out on Michael's favorite song though. Oh yeah, we'll put it in there on the on the earthwards. All right. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Took my love to lay down. A cloud about now tune around. And I saw my reflection in a snow Covered hill till landslide brought him A mirror in the sky, what is love? Can the child in the heart rise and run? Can I sail through the changing ocean tide?
Starting point is 02:02:18 Can I handle the seasons of my life. I'm I've been free changing because I've been changed Because I built my life around you. Time makes you bolder, even children get older. I'm getting of changing because I've built my life around you.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Time makes you bolder, even children get older. And I'm getting older too. I'm getting older too. I took my life and took you down. I climbed my mountain I took around. And if you see my reflection in the snow covered here, lands like brought it down. Lands like going down. Lands are going down. Uh huh. Uh, the. Uh,
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